1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:14,885 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello everyone, Welcome to Cadaver Gals. This 2 00:00:15,045 --> 00:00:18,565 Speaker 1: is a podcast where we talk about death, dying, and 3 00:00:19,125 --> 00:00:21,605 Speaker 1: all the weird ways people die. I'm one of your 4 00:00:21,645 --> 00:00:25,965 Speaker 1: three hosts, Nika, along with Gabby and Taylor. How are 5 00:00:25,965 --> 00:00:31,685 Speaker 1: we feeling? I'm great. I just got called evil, so yummy. 6 00:00:32,805 --> 00:00:38,645 Speaker 1: Just three evil gals, Just three evil gals. Today, as always, 7 00:00:38,645 --> 00:00:40,965 Speaker 1: we have some trigger warnings. Obviously, we're gonna be talking 8 00:00:41,005 --> 00:00:48,205 Speaker 1: about death, dying, asphyxiation, suffocation, poisoning, I think, what else, 9 00:00:48,325 --> 00:00:52,565 Speaker 1: freezing to death, and the scariest one of all, climate change, 10 00:00:53,765 --> 00:00:56,805 Speaker 1: only if you believe in it. Though, oh god, don't 11 00:00:56,565 --> 00:00:59,685 Speaker 1: don't say that option apparently not too I guess we'll 12 00:00:59,725 --> 00:01:04,525 Speaker 1: say baseline, we all fully acknowledge that humans have contributed 13 00:01:04,565 --> 00:01:06,405 Speaker 1: to a change in climate, just so you guys know, 14 00:01:06,725 --> 00:01:09,685 Speaker 1: for the sake of this listen, if I could opt out, 15 00:01:09,765 --> 00:01:12,365 Speaker 1: I would. The deaths are weird. Today we are going 16 00:01:12,405 --> 00:01:16,005 Speaker 1: to be talking about how climate change is leading to 17 00:01:16,285 --> 00:01:20,085 Speaker 1: all of us eventually dying from animal attacks, all of us, 18 00:01:20,125 --> 00:01:27,285 Speaker 1: every single one. Yes, also a bizarre unsolved death, which 19 00:01:27,325 --> 00:01:28,925 Speaker 1: is kind of like the way that you want to 20 00:01:28,925 --> 00:01:30,845 Speaker 1: go if you are going to go with your friends 21 00:01:30,845 --> 00:01:35,045 Speaker 1: it's very squad goles and a bonus story submitted by 22 00:01:35,045 --> 00:01:38,805 Speaker 1: a listener about a murderous hamster. So that's the t 23 00:01:39,365 --> 00:01:59,885 Speaker 1: Q alligator music. So Gabby, climate change, do tell us 24 00:01:59,925 --> 00:02:03,445 Speaker 1: about it. Let's hear it. Okay. So, as Nika prefaced, 25 00:02:03,565 --> 00:02:05,685 Speaker 1: you know, we're all going to die from animal tax 26 00:02:05,725 --> 00:02:09,205 Speaker 1: because of global warming. But that's not exactly true. Some could, 27 00:02:09,765 --> 00:02:12,605 Speaker 1: but this is one thing about global warming. I'm one 28 00:02:12,605 --> 00:02:15,365 Speaker 1: of the effects of global warming, so just the people 29 00:02:15,405 --> 00:02:20,605 Speaker 1: aren't talking about. So we're going to Indonesia for this story. 30 00:02:21,045 --> 00:02:23,445 Speaker 1: We're going to a remote village on the western part 31 00:02:23,445 --> 00:02:26,565 Speaker 1: of this island called Sulawee, and a lot of people 32 00:02:26,605 --> 00:02:31,325 Speaker 1: who live here work on palm oil plantations. And you 33 00:02:31,325 --> 00:02:33,485 Speaker 1: know the cool thing about palm oil as you can 34 00:02:33,525 --> 00:02:35,645 Speaker 1: find it in everything. You know. You can find it 35 00:02:35,685 --> 00:02:38,685 Speaker 1: from your cookies to your face stuff. But you know, 36 00:02:38,765 --> 00:02:41,725 Speaker 1: it's also terrible for the environment because you know what 37 00:02:41,765 --> 00:02:44,565 Speaker 1: if you ever make too much of something, and that's bad. Okay, 38 00:02:44,725 --> 00:02:47,925 Speaker 1: So let's go back to Sulawee on this island. This 39 00:02:48,005 --> 00:02:52,125 Speaker 1: is March twenty six, twenty seventeen, and our victim is 40 00:02:52,125 --> 00:02:56,325 Speaker 1: twenty five year old Akbar Salubiro and he works on 41 00:02:56,365 --> 00:03:00,925 Speaker 1: a palm oil farm, and basically he's a harvester. And 42 00:03:01,405 --> 00:03:04,965 Speaker 1: usually the most dangerous part of palm oil harvesting is 43 00:03:05,005 --> 00:03:07,285 Speaker 1: the free is actually pretty big, so it can fall 44 00:03:07,325 --> 00:03:09,285 Speaker 1: in your head and get a little bop on your head. 45 00:03:09,845 --> 00:03:13,245 Speaker 1: So Akbar went out one evening to go to work, 46 00:03:13,725 --> 00:03:15,845 Speaker 1: but then he didn't come back the next day. People 47 00:03:15,845 --> 00:03:20,325 Speaker 1: started him worrying, so they organized a search party to 48 00:03:20,525 --> 00:03:23,365 Speaker 1: go see where he was. They went to the plot 49 00:03:23,365 --> 00:03:27,245 Speaker 1: that he had been working at. They find his tools there, 50 00:03:27,365 --> 00:03:32,085 Speaker 1: and they find one of his boots, just one, nothing else. 51 00:03:32,205 --> 00:03:36,125 Speaker 1: Ominous as hell, very ominous. And so they continue searching 52 00:03:36,125 --> 00:03:38,365 Speaker 1: for another twenty four hours or so, they can't find 53 00:03:38,445 --> 00:03:42,725 Speaker 1: him anywhere, until in a ditch that was close to 54 00:03:42,765 --> 00:03:48,645 Speaker 1: his house they find this twenty three foot long reticulated python. 55 00:03:49,045 --> 00:03:52,005 Speaker 1: No no, no no. In the midst of the search, 56 00:03:52,125 --> 00:03:54,125 Speaker 1: you know, they had been talking to people around where 57 00:03:54,165 --> 00:03:55,965 Speaker 1: he lived and you know, around where he was working, 58 00:03:55,965 --> 00:03:59,605 Speaker 1: and some people had said that at some point in 59 00:03:59,645 --> 00:04:03,085 Speaker 1: the night they heard some cries from the palm oil 60 00:04:03,485 --> 00:04:08,485 Speaker 1: grove and they didn't lie call someone to check, like 61 00:04:09,245 --> 00:04:11,805 Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, who knows, I mean, it could 62 00:04:11,805 --> 00:04:13,965 Speaker 1: have been a you know, and after the fact like, oh, 63 00:04:13,965 --> 00:04:15,965 Speaker 1: maybe I heard this saying, you know, maybe people are 64 00:04:16,005 --> 00:04:18,125 Speaker 1: hooting hollering in the palm oil grove. I mean, that 65 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:20,805 Speaker 1: could be a beautiful country song. I say that though, 66 00:04:20,845 --> 00:04:22,565 Speaker 1: but I hear stuff all the time and don't call 67 00:04:22,645 --> 00:04:24,525 Speaker 1: so well. I was going to say, like so many 68 00:04:24,605 --> 00:04:28,205 Speaker 1: people keep that mind your business mentality, and honestly, what 69 00:04:28,245 --> 00:04:29,285 Speaker 1: are you going to do, like go out in the 70 00:04:29,325 --> 00:04:32,765 Speaker 1: middle of the jungle to investigate a scream like, I 71 00:04:32,765 --> 00:04:35,165 Speaker 1: don't know, like that sounds like some white people shite. 72 00:04:35,245 --> 00:04:37,685 Speaker 1: It seems like a great idea. There we go, that 73 00:04:37,805 --> 00:04:41,445 Speaker 1: sounds like some white people shit. Taylor's like, absolutely, I'll go. 74 00:04:41,485 --> 00:04:45,125 Speaker 1: I'd investigate. So anyway, they find this python and it 75 00:04:45,325 --> 00:04:48,925 Speaker 1: is swollen as hell. It's not moving because it is 76 00:04:49,005 --> 00:04:54,205 Speaker 1: obviously just consume something that is very large. Dunt, dunt, dunt. 77 00:04:54,805 --> 00:04:56,565 Speaker 1: And so they end up pulling the python out of 78 00:04:56,565 --> 00:04:59,565 Speaker 1: the ditch. And then this guy comes over and he 79 00:04:59,685 --> 00:05:03,765 Speaker 1: has like a like a thirteen inch long knife. And 80 00:05:03,925 --> 00:05:06,405 Speaker 1: the other great thing that starts happening is everyone pulls 81 00:05:06,405 --> 00:05:09,525 Speaker 1: out their phones and they start recording this moment. So 82 00:05:09,565 --> 00:05:11,685 Speaker 1: you two can go to the internet like I did, 83 00:05:11,725 --> 00:05:14,765 Speaker 1: and you can just watch this happen and then have 84 00:05:14,965 --> 00:05:17,885 Speaker 1: bad dreams for a few days. But a lot of 85 00:05:17,925 --> 00:05:20,765 Speaker 1: people were filming, and in the film and in the video, 86 00:05:21,365 --> 00:05:23,285 Speaker 1: the man with the knife, he goes and he starts 87 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:26,285 Speaker 1: cutting open the python. And the first thing you see 88 00:05:26,405 --> 00:05:29,605 Speaker 1: is the other boot where they found the one boot. 89 00:05:30,125 --> 00:05:33,045 Speaker 1: They see the boot, they keep cutting, keep cutting all 90 00:05:33,085 --> 00:05:35,165 Speaker 1: the way to the top. Remember this was a twenty 91 00:05:35,165 --> 00:05:38,925 Speaker 1: three foot long python that's here. And then they rip 92 00:05:38,965 --> 00:05:44,765 Speaker 1: it open and there is Akbar's whole body intact inside 93 00:05:44,805 --> 00:05:48,525 Speaker 1: this python. He is deceased, but it just it is 94 00:05:48,565 --> 00:05:50,965 Speaker 1: just his whole body is in there. He was swallowed 95 00:05:51,165 --> 00:05:56,405 Speaker 1: face first by this python. Oh my, I guess, so 96 00:05:56,605 --> 00:06:02,485 Speaker 1: twenty three feet that's like five of me. No math No, No, 97 00:06:02,485 --> 00:06:04,325 Speaker 1: that's like that's like four of me. I like all 98 00:06:04,325 --> 00:06:07,085 Speaker 1: our measurements are like Mika's size. No. Well, like I 99 00:06:07,125 --> 00:06:10,165 Speaker 1: know that we have some you know, international listeners, and 100 00:06:10,205 --> 00:06:12,325 Speaker 1: so I kind of want to explain it in terms 101 00:06:12,405 --> 00:06:15,925 Speaker 1: of like humans, Like it's a lot of human body. Yeah, 102 00:06:15,965 --> 00:06:18,725 Speaker 1: and the reticulated python is one of the biggest pythons. 103 00:06:18,765 --> 00:06:20,845 Speaker 1: It can get up to I think there's the longest 104 00:06:20,845 --> 00:06:22,685 Speaker 1: one they've ever found. Was like thirty feet long and 105 00:06:22,685 --> 00:06:25,765 Speaker 1: three hundred fifty pounds, So they're just they're big, big daddies, 106 00:06:26,045 --> 00:06:29,005 Speaker 1: that's what they are. And the thing is, I mean, 107 00:06:29,085 --> 00:06:31,925 Speaker 1: I don't think we should be haters on pythons necessarily, 108 00:06:32,045 --> 00:06:35,685 Speaker 1: because this was actually the first recorded case ever of 109 00:06:35,725 --> 00:06:38,565 Speaker 1: a python eating a human. And the reason that the 110 00:06:38,645 --> 00:06:41,085 Speaker 1: climate change in global warming and all of that and 111 00:06:41,205 --> 00:06:45,205 Speaker 1: deforestation comes into this is that it is thought that 112 00:06:45,285 --> 00:06:49,405 Speaker 1: the reason this python aid to human is that most 113 00:06:49,445 --> 00:06:53,045 Speaker 1: of their net normal prey had either skidaddled to a 114 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:55,765 Speaker 1: different part of the forest where there wasn't this palm 115 00:06:55,805 --> 00:07:00,005 Speaker 1: oil plantation, or those animals in turn also got decimated, 116 00:07:00,045 --> 00:07:02,605 Speaker 1: so they just didn't have their normal prey like normally 117 00:07:02,645 --> 00:07:06,965 Speaker 1: they're eating wild pigs, you know, like dogs, whatever. So 118 00:07:07,205 --> 00:07:11,445 Speaker 1: we interrupt the natural food chain and then these workers 119 00:07:11,605 --> 00:07:14,885 Speaker 1: have to go out into these dangerous environments and pay 120 00:07:14,925 --> 00:07:20,245 Speaker 1: the price despite like not directly benefiting from all of 121 00:07:20,245 --> 00:07:23,845 Speaker 1: the money that these big palm oil companies are making. Yes, 122 00:07:23,965 --> 00:07:27,645 Speaker 1: it's all our fault, being complicit in the capitalist system, 123 00:07:27,725 --> 00:07:29,605 Speaker 1: as we like to go back to, you know the 124 00:07:29,725 --> 00:07:33,605 Speaker 1: root of all of our problem. Yeah, that's running. And 125 00:07:33,725 --> 00:07:36,285 Speaker 1: the thing is also pythons apparently like they don't. I mean, 126 00:07:36,285 --> 00:07:38,525 Speaker 1: this is just a fun fact about pythons is they 127 00:07:38,605 --> 00:07:40,485 Speaker 1: usually don't have to eat that often, so it is 128 00:07:40,525 --> 00:07:43,045 Speaker 1: pretty fucking dire if they were eating a human. Like 129 00:07:43,045 --> 00:07:47,045 Speaker 1: there's this one reticulated python that was in captivity in 130 00:07:47,125 --> 00:07:49,365 Speaker 1: a zoo. This was like in nineteen twenty six, you know, 131 00:07:49,405 --> 00:07:51,885 Speaker 1: another great year, and it didn't eat for twenty three months. 132 00:07:52,285 --> 00:07:54,445 Speaker 1: So they can go a long time without eating. So 133 00:07:55,045 --> 00:07:59,725 Speaker 1: that's all that's our best. Yeah, he was Gabby, do 134 00:07:59,765 --> 00:08:01,205 Speaker 1: you want to tell us a little bit more about 135 00:08:01,365 --> 00:08:05,085 Speaker 1: how the python hunts? Yeah? It seems freaky as hell. 136 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:07,245 Speaker 1: I mean I'll just say this whip. It is like 137 00:08:07,285 --> 00:08:10,005 Speaker 1: they go up in trees. They're in trees and then 138 00:08:10,045 --> 00:08:13,725 Speaker 1: they just pounce on you. I mean, like I shouldn't 139 00:08:13,725 --> 00:08:16,845 Speaker 1: be laughing, but that sounds insane. It's so scary and 140 00:08:16,885 --> 00:08:19,485 Speaker 1: they're like so big. I mean, it's also like interesting 141 00:08:19,485 --> 00:08:23,605 Speaker 1: to think about something that large pouncing, also pouncing without limbs. 142 00:08:23,885 --> 00:08:27,845 Speaker 1: They're just springing from a tree. I know it must 143 00:08:28,005 --> 00:08:30,405 Speaker 1: not be graceful, like they must be clumsy as hell. 144 00:08:30,565 --> 00:08:33,485 Speaker 1: I mean, can you I mean just picture like a 145 00:08:33,565 --> 00:08:37,605 Speaker 1: floating string or green bean just throwing itself at you. 146 00:08:37,885 --> 00:08:39,645 Speaker 1: That does not look cute. I mean, I know it 147 00:08:39,685 --> 00:08:41,325 Speaker 1: gets a job done, but I'm just I'm just saying, 148 00:08:41,365 --> 00:08:44,765 Speaker 1: then the thing is as I said previously, Akbar's death 149 00:08:44,845 --> 00:08:47,285 Speaker 1: was the first one ever recorded of a python eating 150 00:08:47,285 --> 00:08:52,085 Speaker 1: a human, and yet within the next year, in this 151 00:08:52,205 --> 00:08:57,125 Speaker 1: same area, at fifty four year old woman was also 152 00:08:57,245 --> 00:09:00,485 Speaker 1: eaten by a python. She was like in her garden, 153 00:09:00,685 --> 00:09:03,765 Speaker 1: tending to her garden in the evening, and then she 154 00:09:03,845 --> 00:09:06,085 Speaker 1: never came back inside and her family was worried. In 155 00:09:06,125 --> 00:09:08,925 Speaker 1: the same situation basically happened where then they found nearby 156 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:12,365 Speaker 1: a python extra swollen up from eating in a ditch 157 00:09:12,645 --> 00:09:14,125 Speaker 1: like are just like in the side of the road, 158 00:09:14,245 --> 00:09:18,165 Speaker 1: and chopped it open, and there she was fully intact. 159 00:09:18,645 --> 00:09:22,365 Speaker 1: And it was in the same area. So clearly that 160 00:09:22,485 --> 00:09:27,165 Speaker 1: area deforestation has really waked havoc on that area. Yeah, 161 00:09:27,285 --> 00:09:32,565 Speaker 1: so watch out for snakes coming or pythons coming from above. 162 00:09:33,165 --> 00:09:37,685 Speaker 1: Well up next, we have a little segment on exactly 163 00:09:37,725 --> 00:09:40,485 Speaker 1: what happens to your body when a python kills and 164 00:09:40,565 --> 00:09:43,885 Speaker 1: eats you, just in case, just in case, exactly, just 165 00:09:43,885 --> 00:09:45,645 Speaker 1: to get a little more freaked out. So we'll be 166 00:09:45,765 --> 00:09:54,325 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to python Land, not Florida Cadaverca. Anyway, 167 00:09:55,245 --> 00:09:59,565 Speaker 1: Gabby was just sharing that pythons when they attack you 168 00:09:59,685 --> 00:10:02,005 Speaker 1: and they try to eat you, they basically climb up 169 00:10:02,045 --> 00:10:05,605 Speaker 1: on a tree and then jump and land on your body. 170 00:10:05,805 --> 00:10:08,605 Speaker 1: And if they eat you and you're could open in time, 171 00:10:08,885 --> 00:10:13,285 Speaker 1: you are found totally preserved, I mean, well dead. Yeah, 172 00:10:13,925 --> 00:10:17,365 Speaker 1: so I was. I was kind of just researching on 173 00:10:17,645 --> 00:10:21,685 Speaker 1: how exactly do pythons eat you, like what is the process. 174 00:10:21,765 --> 00:10:24,605 Speaker 1: And obviously they kill you before they eat you. And 175 00:10:24,845 --> 00:10:27,925 Speaker 1: people used to think that they would choke you before 176 00:10:27,965 --> 00:10:30,765 Speaker 1: they eat you, but that's actually not the case. Essentially, 177 00:10:30,805 --> 00:10:34,485 Speaker 1: what they do is cut off your circulation, so they 178 00:10:34,645 --> 00:10:37,965 Speaker 1: coil around you and just put a lot of pressure 179 00:10:38,165 --> 00:10:43,085 Speaker 1: on your arteries and stops blood flow essentially from going 180 00:10:43,125 --> 00:10:46,005 Speaker 1: to your heart or your major organs or your brain, 181 00:10:46,645 --> 00:10:51,565 Speaker 1: and you die. It's kind of like blood pressure reading. 182 00:10:51,605 --> 00:10:53,645 Speaker 1: So you know, like when they wrap the thing around 183 00:10:53,685 --> 00:10:56,005 Speaker 1: your arm and they go to I hate that. I 184 00:10:56,045 --> 00:10:58,325 Speaker 1: love it. I'm like very into it. It feels really 185 00:10:58,405 --> 00:11:00,045 Speaker 1: good for me. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's 186 00:11:00,085 --> 00:11:04,045 Speaker 1: an interesting distinction between like suffocating to death versus like 187 00:11:04,085 --> 00:11:07,005 Speaker 1: all of your circulation gets cut off. It's it seems, 188 00:11:07,965 --> 00:11:10,325 Speaker 1: you know, almost slightly more sinisters, like they have control 189 00:11:10,365 --> 00:11:12,565 Speaker 1: over your blood. They're like the blood benders from like 190 00:11:12,725 --> 00:11:16,725 Speaker 1: they are wow amazing. Yes, that is literally exactly what 191 00:11:16,765 --> 00:11:19,645 Speaker 1: they do. They coil around you and they check your 192 00:11:19,925 --> 00:11:24,485 Speaker 1: heartbeat and they only stop squeezing once they've felt that 193 00:11:24,605 --> 00:11:28,765 Speaker 1: your heartbeat has stopped. Some scientists, actually they did some 194 00:11:28,805 --> 00:11:32,045 Speaker 1: tests to like figure out exactly when do pythons know 195 00:11:32,085 --> 00:11:34,805 Speaker 1: how to stop squeezing, and so they outfitted some lab rats, 196 00:11:34,845 --> 00:11:37,085 Speaker 1: which yes, like I know, Gabby, you're a rat lover. 197 00:11:37,525 --> 00:11:41,245 Speaker 1: They outfitted these little boys and girls, both genders of 198 00:11:41,325 --> 00:11:46,885 Speaker 1: lab rats, with little pacemakers, and the scientists control the 199 00:11:46,925 --> 00:11:51,365 Speaker 1: pacemakers and would like slow it down or stop it, 200 00:11:51,605 --> 00:11:54,405 Speaker 1: and the pythons only stop squeezing once they felt no 201 00:11:54,685 --> 00:11:59,325 Speaker 1: heartbeat on the pacemaker, which okay, like scientists, why but 202 00:11:59,445 --> 00:12:03,725 Speaker 1: okay cool. I also want to clarify that I don't 203 00:12:03,925 --> 00:12:08,005 Speaker 1: love rats. I appreciate rats, and I admire rats for 204 00:12:08,045 --> 00:12:12,885 Speaker 1: their resilience. That's sweet. Be a resilient like a rat, 205 00:12:13,405 --> 00:12:18,445 Speaker 1: you know, in many ways then as an immigrant resilience, yeah, 206 00:12:18,765 --> 00:12:21,565 Speaker 1: I would kind of like say something important, Oh yeah, 207 00:12:21,605 --> 00:12:28,245 Speaker 1: you're like as an immigrant Taylor's like fun, that was horrible, 208 00:12:28,445 --> 00:12:32,245 Speaker 1: but um but yeah, so that's what scientists were doing 209 00:12:32,245 --> 00:12:34,965 Speaker 1: with their time. I don't know. I mean, okay, and 210 00:12:35,205 --> 00:12:38,005 Speaker 1: I have done my research on this subject. You're welcome everyone. 211 00:12:38,085 --> 00:12:43,445 Speaker 1: I even subscribed to National Geographic, the weekly newsletter, just 212 00:12:43,485 --> 00:12:47,485 Speaker 1: to receive this quote from a scientist about python. Get ready, y'all, 213 00:12:47,725 --> 00:12:50,925 Speaker 1: because I literally sent my email to them just to 214 00:12:50,965 --> 00:12:53,325 Speaker 1: share this on the podcast. And now I'm receiving a 215 00:12:53,365 --> 00:12:55,965 Speaker 1: lot of information from National Geographic. Not that I'm mad 216 00:12:56,005 --> 00:12:57,925 Speaker 1: at it, but like, okay, it's kind of clogging my 217 00:12:58,005 --> 00:13:02,005 Speaker 1: inbox a little bit. So the scientists said, and I quote, 218 00:13:02,285 --> 00:13:06,045 Speaker 1: the heart literally doesn't have the strength to push against 219 00:13:06,045 --> 00:13:11,005 Speaker 1: the pressure end quote. That is how pythons kill you. 220 00:13:10,365 --> 00:13:16,085 Speaker 1: You're welcome. So yeah, if you're into breath play that, 221 00:13:16,565 --> 00:13:19,125 Speaker 1: you know, that's a way to go. Yeah. Also, you 222 00:13:19,165 --> 00:13:23,085 Speaker 1: know some role playing, like you know, maybe your partner 223 00:13:23,125 --> 00:13:25,845 Speaker 1: in bed is a python and you're a little rat, 224 00:13:26,405 --> 00:13:36,525 Speaker 1: but you're a resilient rat. So okay, actually quite fun. Yeah. Yeah, listeners, 225 00:13:36,565 --> 00:13:39,645 Speaker 1: submit your role playing based off of this episode. That 226 00:13:39,645 --> 00:13:41,645 Speaker 1: will be the next thing we're asking No, no no, no, 227 00:13:41,845 --> 00:13:48,165 Speaker 1: please don't do that. Um okay, anyway, Taylor, do you 228 00:13:48,525 --> 00:13:53,405 Speaker 1: want to help us pivot the conversation into an unsolved mystery? Please? 229 00:13:53,725 --> 00:13:56,165 Speaker 1: I beg of you. I do not want to receive 230 00:13:56,605 --> 00:14:00,885 Speaker 1: more sexual request. Absolutely, thank god, because I'd be awkward 231 00:14:00,885 --> 00:14:03,485 Speaker 1: if you weren't going to Can you imagine Taylor just 232 00:14:03,565 --> 00:14:06,725 Speaker 1: being like, no, I actually don't want to share. Log off. 233 00:14:07,245 --> 00:14:10,565 Speaker 1: So we're in the year fifteen fifty three, which is 234 00:14:10,605 --> 00:14:13,245 Speaker 1: the earlier you and the fifteen hundreds. Oh my gosh, 235 00:14:13,285 --> 00:14:16,725 Speaker 1: I love them. Okay, So this is the earlier part 236 00:14:16,725 --> 00:14:20,005 Speaker 1: of the Renaissance period, which actually went from fourteenth century 237 00:14:20,045 --> 00:14:23,885 Speaker 1: to seventeenth century, which seems like a really long time 238 00:14:23,925 --> 00:14:26,045 Speaker 1: to me. I don't I don't know. You tell me, wow, 239 00:14:26,125 --> 00:14:29,525 Speaker 1: Renaissance periods so rude, so long. So we're here to 240 00:14:29,605 --> 00:14:32,885 Speaker 1: talk about Sir Hugh Willoughby, who was on King Henry 241 00:14:32,925 --> 00:14:35,645 Speaker 1: the eighth court, and he also spent a lot of 242 00:14:35,645 --> 00:14:38,525 Speaker 1: time in the military and was knighted. So if you recall, 243 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:40,405 Speaker 1: this was a time where all the boys were voating 244 00:14:40,405 --> 00:14:44,205 Speaker 1: around looking for things to take. So Sir Willoughby was 245 00:14:44,245 --> 00:14:47,125 Speaker 1: appointed captain general to go out into a fleet of 246 00:14:47,245 --> 00:14:50,805 Speaker 1: three ships and find a new way to get to China. 247 00:14:51,085 --> 00:14:54,765 Speaker 1: That is such a sweet way of like explaining colonization. 248 00:14:56,085 --> 00:14:57,285 Speaker 1: The boys and I are going to go grab some 249 00:14:57,365 --> 00:15:00,765 Speaker 1: m This was just a time where people were voting 250 00:15:00,845 --> 00:15:04,085 Speaker 1: around is doing their thing and posing their views on people. 251 00:15:04,805 --> 00:15:08,605 Speaker 1: What a good time. Well, were they actually colonizing Arrow? Okay? 252 00:15:08,725 --> 00:15:11,805 Speaker 1: They were looking for a new trade route to China. 253 00:15:11,885 --> 00:15:14,285 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's not like they were doing some 254 00:15:14,325 --> 00:15:16,085 Speaker 1: great things. They were bringing some They were going to 255 00:15:16,165 --> 00:15:19,725 Speaker 1: mess some shit up. So these ships were called the 256 00:15:20,045 --> 00:15:27,165 Speaker 1: Bona Esperanza, the Edward Bonaventure, and the Bona Confidentia, and 257 00:15:27,325 --> 00:15:30,885 Speaker 1: aboard these ships were landsman aka men who were unfamiliar 258 00:15:30,885 --> 00:15:32,805 Speaker 1: with the sea, a chaplain or two because you know, 259 00:15:32,845 --> 00:15:36,365 Speaker 1: you gotta get your church on merchants and gentlemen adventurers. 260 00:15:36,685 --> 00:15:38,045 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you picked up on this, 261 00:15:38,125 --> 00:15:40,965 Speaker 1: but these dudes were literally like, hey watch this, how 262 00:15:41,005 --> 00:15:43,965 Speaker 1: hard can it? They were not prepared. There was no 263 00:15:44,085 --> 00:15:48,925 Speaker 1: like marine men Norman. They were literally like, hey, let's 264 00:15:48,965 --> 00:15:52,805 Speaker 1: go boat around. How hard could it be? So yeah, 265 00:15:52,845 --> 00:15:57,725 Speaker 1: aboard the Edward Bonaventure was Richard Chancellor and Steven Burrow, 266 00:15:58,205 --> 00:15:59,925 Speaker 1: and they were like the only two that really knew 267 00:15:59,925 --> 00:16:01,485 Speaker 1: what they were doing. And they were like yeah, we 268 00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:03,605 Speaker 1: should be on the same boat so we can relate 269 00:16:03,645 --> 00:16:07,925 Speaker 1: and make fun of these gentlemen adventurers. I guess let's 270 00:16:07,965 --> 00:16:13,285 Speaker 1: relate to each other. I'm sorry. So there were three 271 00:16:13,405 --> 00:16:17,685 Speaker 1: boats and the only two experienced people were on the side. 272 00:16:17,805 --> 00:16:20,205 Speaker 1: That makes so much sense to me. Okay, okay, so 273 00:16:20,285 --> 00:16:22,885 Speaker 1: that's like what we're working with here. They're like, but 274 00:16:22,925 --> 00:16:24,845 Speaker 1: they did have one good idea, which was like, if 275 00:16:24,845 --> 00:16:26,805 Speaker 1: they got separated, they were to meet back at a 276 00:16:26,805 --> 00:16:30,325 Speaker 1: predetermined location so that they could catch back up with 277 00:16:30,365 --> 00:16:34,165 Speaker 1: each other. So they set sail, and as any good 278 00:16:34,205 --> 00:16:38,285 Speaker 1: gentleman adventurer does, Willoughby kept a journal, so we kind 279 00:16:38,285 --> 00:16:40,365 Speaker 1: of got the play by play of like, really what 280 00:16:40,445 --> 00:16:43,925 Speaker 1: was going down. So initially there were really strong winds, 281 00:16:43,965 --> 00:16:48,005 Speaker 1: which immediately put them off schedule. Because of these winds, 282 00:16:48,165 --> 00:16:51,845 Speaker 1: two of the ships immediately lose sight of the Edward Bonaventure, 283 00:16:52,205 --> 00:16:54,645 Speaker 1: which was obviously the only boat that stood a chance 284 00:16:54,725 --> 00:16:59,325 Speaker 1: because it had actual seamen on it. Okay, yeah, I 285 00:16:59,405 --> 00:17:03,165 Speaker 1: just couldn't avoid that word. Okay, Oh I just got it. 286 00:17:03,325 --> 00:17:07,965 Speaker 1: You just got that, did I just I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 287 00:17:08,405 --> 00:17:11,285 Speaker 1: So the Bonaventure waited for a week at their place 288 00:17:11,325 --> 00:17:14,205 Speaker 1: of rendezvous, but to know the vail they were gone. 289 00:17:15,045 --> 00:17:19,685 Speaker 1: But meanwhile, the Bona Esperanza and the Bona Confidentia. I 290 00:17:19,685 --> 00:17:21,165 Speaker 1: don't know why. That's hard for me to say, but 291 00:17:21,245 --> 00:17:24,285 Speaker 1: it is they stuck together, and they were lost as hill. 292 00:17:24,965 --> 00:17:27,485 Speaker 1: But they eventually found land and sent out some of 293 00:17:27,485 --> 00:17:31,245 Speaker 1: the finest gentleman adventurers to find life. But all they 294 00:17:31,285 --> 00:17:35,765 Speaker 1: found were cute little animals. Willoughby wrote, very many seal 295 00:17:35,845 --> 00:17:40,165 Speaker 1: fishes and other great fishes, and upon the main bears, 296 00:17:40,805 --> 00:17:47,485 Speaker 1: great deer, foxes, and divers, strange beasts. Taylor loves the 297 00:17:47,525 --> 00:17:49,925 Speaker 1: animals were included. Yeah, She's like, let me give you 298 00:17:50,045 --> 00:17:52,525 Speaker 1: a detailed list of all the animals that were on 299 00:17:52,605 --> 00:17:55,765 Speaker 1: the ship and off it while these men are marooned 300 00:17:56,085 --> 00:18:00,365 Speaker 1: about to pass away. What the hell's a seal fish? 301 00:18:00,405 --> 00:18:04,285 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, So the last documentation from the 302 00:18:04,485 --> 00:18:09,005 Speaker 1: Esperanza was in January of fifteen fifty four, and three 303 00:18:09,045 --> 00:18:12,285 Speaker 1: months later the ships were discovered by some Russian fishermen, 304 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:16,285 Speaker 1: and when the men discovered them, they all appeared to 305 00:18:16,405 --> 00:18:19,565 Speaker 1: have died in unison. They were in like various positions, 306 00:18:19,605 --> 00:18:21,885 Speaker 1: like one had a spoon in his mouth, another was 307 00:18:21,885 --> 00:18:25,045 Speaker 1: like opening a cabinet and like even the animals on 308 00:18:25,125 --> 00:18:30,005 Speaker 1: board were like frozen in time. Wait what happened? I'm sorry, 309 00:18:30,085 --> 00:18:33,085 Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't believe. Did will it be 310 00:18:33,205 --> 00:18:36,645 Speaker 1: write about this or no? The last thing was he 311 00:18:36,765 --> 00:18:39,845 Speaker 1: frozen with like his hand like on his quill, and 312 00:18:39,845 --> 00:18:45,245 Speaker 1: it's just like, ah, being frozen and going to the bathroom, 313 00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:48,125 Speaker 1: like I would hate that, like being remembered like that. 314 00:18:48,445 --> 00:18:52,085 Speaker 1: It sounds like a magical creature that did something to 315 00:18:52,165 --> 00:18:55,125 Speaker 1: these dudes. All of the animals were alive and thriving, 316 00:18:55,205 --> 00:18:58,245 Speaker 1: except for those that were on the boats. So anyway, 317 00:18:58,285 --> 00:19:00,525 Speaker 1: we'll get back to how they died. But I want 318 00:19:00,565 --> 00:19:02,005 Speaker 1: to go back to the rest of this story because 319 00:19:02,005 --> 00:19:04,845 Speaker 1: it kind of like gets even crazier. So I guess 320 00:19:04,845 --> 00:19:07,485 Speaker 1: the fishermen like, oh, we need to go tell someone. 321 00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,405 Speaker 1: So they get back and they're like, y'all aren't going 322 00:19:09,485 --> 00:19:11,845 Speaker 1: to believe it. But there's these two ships, they're docks, 323 00:19:11,885 --> 00:19:14,125 Speaker 1: and a bunch of dudes are like frozen in time. 324 00:19:14,645 --> 00:19:16,605 Speaker 1: Bizarre of Russia at the time was a man called 325 00:19:16,685 --> 00:19:21,325 Speaker 1: Ivan Ivanovich aka Ivan the Terrible, but he actually does 326 00:19:21,365 --> 00:19:24,365 Speaker 1: this one nice thing and he sends a letter back 327 00:19:24,405 --> 00:19:27,125 Speaker 1: to England and is like, hey, come get your boys. 328 00:19:27,605 --> 00:19:31,685 Speaker 1: We found some of your boys frozen in time. Xoxo 329 00:19:32,525 --> 00:19:36,805 Speaker 1: Ivan the Terrible, Yeah, exactly, get them. Okay. So by 330 00:19:36,805 --> 00:19:40,085 Speaker 1: the time the letter gets to England, it's fifteen fifty five, 331 00:19:40,245 --> 00:19:44,285 Speaker 1: and they originally set sail in fifteen fifty three. So Chancellor, 332 00:19:44,365 --> 00:19:46,565 Speaker 1: who was one of the guys who actually knew how 333 00:19:46,565 --> 00:19:49,445 Speaker 1: to sail on the Edward Bonaventure, goes back out to 334 00:19:49,485 --> 00:19:52,205 Speaker 1: see to go pick up his lost men in the cargo. 335 00:19:53,205 --> 00:19:55,325 Speaker 1: But they didn't have enough men to sail the ship back, 336 00:19:55,405 --> 00:19:58,285 Speaker 1: so they had to come back yet again. And now 337 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:02,805 Speaker 1: it's fifteen fifty six, but they're prepared now, and so 338 00:20:02,845 --> 00:20:04,805 Speaker 1: when they get to Russia, they pick up some guys 339 00:20:04,845 --> 00:20:08,245 Speaker 1: to be england first Russian ambassador. M I guess they 340 00:20:08,285 --> 00:20:11,365 Speaker 1: really appreciated the Russians, like letting them know about their buddies. 341 00:20:12,165 --> 00:20:14,405 Speaker 1: So they're on their way back and this like huge 342 00:20:14,405 --> 00:20:18,445 Speaker 1: storm hits and the Bona Confidentia hits a rock and sinks, 343 00:20:18,885 --> 00:20:21,605 Speaker 1: and the Bona Esperanza when m I A and the 344 00:20:21,725 --> 00:20:26,285 Speaker 1: Chancellorship lost its bearings and that sank as well. Oh no, 345 00:20:26,685 --> 00:20:30,445 Speaker 1: these boats were haunted, Yeah, they were. These ships were 346 00:20:30,485 --> 00:20:32,925 Speaker 1: literally not meant to survive. It was the seal fish, 347 00:20:33,005 --> 00:20:35,765 Speaker 1: I'm sure of it probably wasn't the seal fish. Yeah, 348 00:20:35,845 --> 00:20:39,565 Speaker 1: but we will find out what happened to these men 349 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:48,005 Speaker 1: when we return. Hello, we are back, ready to learn 350 00:20:48,045 --> 00:20:51,405 Speaker 1: about this big death. A ton of death, A ton 351 00:20:51,445 --> 00:20:56,325 Speaker 1: of boy boy. It is the title for my memoir, Taylor. 352 00:20:56,605 --> 00:21:00,725 Speaker 1: Do you want to express your scientific findings? Express them? 353 00:21:00,885 --> 00:21:04,445 Speaker 1: So these are just like some possibilities of how they 354 00:21:04,485 --> 00:21:07,005 Speaker 1: could have all died in Unit said, they're not necessarily like, 355 00:21:07,325 --> 00:21:11,925 Speaker 1: you know, like conspiracy theory. Yeah, they're like conspiracy theories. 356 00:21:11,965 --> 00:21:16,085 Speaker 1: I guess they were just like thrown out there as possibilities. Well, 357 00:21:16,205 --> 00:21:19,965 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and scientific findings are like the same thing 358 00:21:20,125 --> 00:21:25,125 Speaker 1: according to modern culture, right, Okay, So the first theory 359 00:21:25,285 --> 00:21:29,805 Speaker 1: is it's it's cold. We're in Russia, it's winter. So 360 00:21:29,845 --> 00:21:32,725 Speaker 1: the first theory is like, maybe it just got really 361 00:21:32,765 --> 00:21:36,445 Speaker 1: cold and really fast and all of these guys just 362 00:21:36,485 --> 00:21:39,605 Speaker 1: like froze to death. But the problem there, obviously is 363 00:21:39,605 --> 00:21:42,485 Speaker 1: they would have to get like really cold and really 364 00:21:42,525 --> 00:21:45,685 Speaker 1: cold and really fast just for everyone to freeze all 365 00:21:45,725 --> 00:21:48,325 Speaker 1: at the exact same time. So I don't really think 366 00:21:48,365 --> 00:21:53,765 Speaker 1: that's an option. So another theory is scurvy and starvation. 367 00:21:54,525 --> 00:21:56,805 Speaker 1: But like when they went to go pick up their boys, 368 00:21:56,845 --> 00:21:59,165 Speaker 1: they realized they had like a lot of supplies on board, 369 00:21:59,245 --> 00:22:02,565 Speaker 1: So they probably didn't die from starvation because they had 370 00:22:02,605 --> 00:22:05,805 Speaker 1: plenty of food. But scurvy, as we know, at least 371 00:22:05,845 --> 00:22:08,405 Speaker 1: I think we know, is a deficiency in vitamin C, 372 00:22:08,845 --> 00:22:11,045 Speaker 1: which is why when you're a kid, they're like, drink 373 00:22:11,125 --> 00:22:14,365 Speaker 1: your orange juice fun times. But again, it doesn't seem 374 00:22:14,365 --> 00:22:16,165 Speaker 1: like they would have all died at the exact same 375 00:22:16,165 --> 00:22:19,605 Speaker 1: time all. Maybe if they were all eating the same 376 00:22:19,605 --> 00:22:22,165 Speaker 1: things and they left to go boat together at the 377 00:22:22,165 --> 00:22:26,165 Speaker 1: exact same time. And listen, like I read things, I'm 378 00:22:26,245 --> 00:22:29,405 Speaker 1: very smart. It wasn't until fifteen ninety three that scurvy 379 00:22:29,605 --> 00:22:33,485 Speaker 1: was even connected to fresh fruits and foods and vitamin 380 00:22:33,565 --> 00:22:36,565 Speaker 1: C and on those good things. So I'm going to 381 00:22:36,645 --> 00:22:41,525 Speaker 1: tip my hat into the scurvy jar. My very scientifical 382 00:22:42,485 --> 00:22:46,485 Speaker 1: that's not a word science science science. Yes, I find 383 00:22:46,485 --> 00:22:49,765 Speaker 1: the seal fish to be still more probable the seal fish, 384 00:22:49,845 --> 00:22:53,005 Speaker 1: which I mean, look, at this point, anything's possible, I guess. 385 00:22:53,805 --> 00:22:56,005 Speaker 1: But okay, so you know, when you like go like 386 00:22:56,045 --> 00:22:58,965 Speaker 1: you google your symptoms or whatever you like, find out 387 00:22:59,165 --> 00:23:01,245 Speaker 1: like all of the things wrong or like all of 388 00:23:01,285 --> 00:23:03,885 Speaker 1: the reasons why you could be sick, right, yeah, it's 389 00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:06,205 Speaker 1: always a tumor. But yeah, so like you know when 390 00:23:06,205 --> 00:23:10,045 Speaker 1: you're like googly, they also have like risk factors. So 391 00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:12,645 Speaker 1: I did this thing that I thought would be fine, 392 00:23:12,845 --> 00:23:15,485 Speaker 1: that you could categorize yourself to see if you're at 393 00:23:15,565 --> 00:23:18,765 Speaker 1: risk for scurvy. So I created a put a finger 394 00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:22,845 Speaker 1: down challenge. Oh my gosh, oh yeah, oh my gosh, 395 00:23:22,885 --> 00:23:26,765 Speaker 1: oh for scurvy. Yeah, yeah, yes, don't listen. If you're 396 00:23:26,765 --> 00:23:29,285 Speaker 1: a hypochondriac, put a finger down. If you have daily 397 00:23:29,325 --> 00:23:33,805 Speaker 1: alcohol consumption, put a finger down. For use of illegal drugs, 398 00:23:35,405 --> 00:23:38,445 Speaker 1: put a finger down. If you live alone. How could 399 00:23:38,485 --> 00:23:44,605 Speaker 1: like scurvy and living alone? Oh you eat so Like 400 00:23:44,645 --> 00:23:46,925 Speaker 1: the next one is low income, so like lack of 401 00:23:47,005 --> 00:23:53,245 Speaker 1: nutritious foods. Yeah, you can't literally um. Put a finger 402 00:23:53,285 --> 00:23:57,245 Speaker 1: down if you have ibs, and put a finger down 403 00:23:57,525 --> 00:24:00,045 Speaker 1: if you are dehydrated. So if you don't drink a 404 00:24:00,045 --> 00:24:02,885 Speaker 1: lot of water. I got one left. Wait stop, I 405 00:24:02,925 --> 00:24:05,365 Speaker 1: cut one left because I do drugs and have ibs. 406 00:24:05,565 --> 00:24:08,125 Speaker 1: Look at me, I feel like I have all my fingers. 407 00:24:08,165 --> 00:24:11,765 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I'm dehydrat You drank daily, literally drink 408 00:24:11,805 --> 00:24:16,765 Speaker 1: every day. Okay, but like not anymore I used to. Okay, okay, 409 00:24:16,805 --> 00:24:20,365 Speaker 1: so it's between Gabby and I on who has scurvy? Taylor, 410 00:24:20,405 --> 00:24:21,965 Speaker 1: do you have one more so we can figure out 411 00:24:22,245 --> 00:24:25,445 Speaker 1: who has survey? Okay, yeah, put a finger down. If 412 00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:29,605 Speaker 1: you have a restrictive diet, I don't eat mushrooms. Okay, great, 413 00:24:31,005 --> 00:24:38,125 Speaker 1: Gabby you are did see like those old timey videos. 414 00:24:38,125 --> 00:24:41,765 Speaker 1: This is the least medical segment I think we've done 415 00:24:41,845 --> 00:24:43,885 Speaker 1: so far of like, if you have any of these symptoms, 416 00:24:43,965 --> 00:24:49,205 Speaker 1: you automatically have scurvy. Now yeah, anyway, sorry, everyone, we 417 00:24:49,285 --> 00:24:52,525 Speaker 1: are going to continue without Gabby as she has passed 418 00:24:52,565 --> 00:24:57,125 Speaker 1: away from scurvy into the beyond. Um, Taylor, any other theories? 419 00:24:57,165 --> 00:25:00,605 Speaker 1: He asked to why these men all froze in time? 420 00:25:01,045 --> 00:25:05,245 Speaker 1: I passed away from the seal fishne Okay, yeah, okay. 421 00:25:05,285 --> 00:25:07,885 Speaker 1: So the most likely cause for everyone to have died 422 00:25:08,005 --> 00:25:12,085 Speaker 1: so quickly and all at once was carbon monoxide poisoning 423 00:25:12,205 --> 00:25:14,925 Speaker 1: from the way they insulated their ships. Don't know how 424 00:25:14,965 --> 00:25:18,005 Speaker 1: they were insulating their ships, but apparently had carbon monoxide. 425 00:25:18,085 --> 00:25:20,805 Speaker 1: Well I'm guessing because it was like a cold Russian winter, 426 00:25:20,925 --> 00:25:23,805 Speaker 1: they were trying to insulate the boats and then didn't 427 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:28,045 Speaker 1: leave any space for any ventilation and for like those 428 00:25:28,085 --> 00:25:33,885 Speaker 1: stoves had stoves to release the carbon monoxide, and so yeah, 429 00:25:33,925 --> 00:25:37,645 Speaker 1: they were very warm until they weren't. Right. So the 430 00:25:37,645 --> 00:25:40,605 Speaker 1: thing that confuses me about this story is riga mortis, 431 00:25:40,605 --> 00:25:42,285 Speaker 1: which I was to day years old when I found 432 00:25:42,325 --> 00:25:46,685 Speaker 1: out that ruga mortis translate to rigidity of death. But 433 00:25:46,765 --> 00:25:48,485 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, that's like when 434 00:25:48,645 --> 00:25:51,525 Speaker 1: after you die, you get your body gets like really 435 00:25:51,525 --> 00:25:55,085 Speaker 1: stiff from the lack of blood flow. But apparently so 436 00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:57,885 Speaker 1: it takes about two to six hours after death for 437 00:25:58,005 --> 00:26:01,245 Speaker 1: riga mortis to take place, and then at lasts from 438 00:26:01,285 --> 00:26:03,925 Speaker 1: a few days urskis be a few hours to a 439 00:26:03,925 --> 00:26:06,645 Speaker 1: few days. So I really can't tell if that would 440 00:26:06,645 --> 00:26:08,965 Speaker 1: even be plausible for everyone to be frozen in the 441 00:26:09,005 --> 00:26:13,005 Speaker 1: middle of their actions. And secondly, if it is plausible, 442 00:26:13,365 --> 00:26:15,485 Speaker 1: then the fishermen would have had to have happened to 443 00:26:15,565 --> 00:26:20,205 Speaker 1: arrive shortly after they all died, right, because then you 444 00:26:20,285 --> 00:26:23,205 Speaker 1: like your body like starts to decompose, like from the 445 00:26:23,245 --> 00:26:26,925 Speaker 1: inside out, and like your organs, you know, they start 446 00:26:26,925 --> 00:26:31,005 Speaker 1: to melt. So so unless it was just like super cold, 447 00:26:31,125 --> 00:26:34,245 Speaker 1: I guess which it was cold, So I don't know. Yeah, 448 00:26:34,245 --> 00:26:35,965 Speaker 1: I mean I was about to say, if it was 449 00:26:36,205 --> 00:26:39,125 Speaker 1: really cold and they experienced rigga mortis, then maybe they 450 00:26:39,245 --> 00:26:42,125 Speaker 1: did seem frozen in time. I mean, listen, I don't 451 00:26:42,125 --> 00:26:44,485 Speaker 1: believe the Russian fisherman when they were like, oh we 452 00:26:44,605 --> 00:26:47,885 Speaker 1: found teacups in their hands or dogs were stopped in 453 00:26:47,925 --> 00:26:50,485 Speaker 1: the middle of the boat. No, Like, I don't believe that. 454 00:26:50,565 --> 00:26:54,885 Speaker 1: But if someone was sleeping and passed away of carbon 455 00:26:54,925 --> 00:26:59,205 Speaker 1: monoxide poisoning and experienced riggamortis, I kind of understand why 456 00:26:59,205 --> 00:27:01,205 Speaker 1: people would call it frozen in time. I don't believe 457 00:27:01,205 --> 00:27:02,885 Speaker 1: the Russian fisherman though. I mean, listen, this was a 458 00:27:02,925 --> 00:27:05,245 Speaker 1: time when people believe that like drinking lead lead so 459 00:27:05,325 --> 00:27:08,085 Speaker 1: long your life. So maybe they were under the spell 460 00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:13,605 Speaker 1: of the the seal fat that's the power of the seals. Yeah, 461 00:27:13,645 --> 00:27:16,525 Speaker 1: maybe they were just like, if you don't go back 462 00:27:16,565 --> 00:27:19,525 Speaker 1: and tell them that they were all frozen in time, 463 00:27:19,965 --> 00:27:22,365 Speaker 1: I want to be a seal fish now that that 464 00:27:22,525 --> 00:27:26,805 Speaker 1: sounds like sexy and fun and lure men to their death, 465 00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:32,885 Speaker 1: their frozen death. Thank you Taylor for your conspiracy theories. 466 00:27:32,965 --> 00:27:35,925 Speaker 1: We can all take off our tinfoil hats now put 467 00:27:35,925 --> 00:27:39,125 Speaker 1: them in our little tin bags. And because today is 468 00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:43,565 Speaker 1: such a special day, I have a listener submitted story 469 00:27:44,365 --> 00:27:47,565 Speaker 1: that I want to share. It's really funny if anyone 470 00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:50,205 Speaker 1: wants to hear it. Yes, I love that our listeners 471 00:27:50,245 --> 00:27:52,605 Speaker 1: are starting to communicate with us and telling us that 472 00:27:52,645 --> 00:27:55,045 Speaker 1: they love us, even though some of them don't. But 473 00:27:55,085 --> 00:27:57,885 Speaker 1: it makes us feel really good. So please keep sending 474 00:27:58,085 --> 00:28:01,645 Speaker 1: I know it really it really helps to not make 475 00:28:01,765 --> 00:28:05,005 Speaker 1: me feel like, oh everyone hates us, you know, So 476 00:28:05,085 --> 00:28:07,485 Speaker 1: thank you. Oh yeah, And this was in response to 477 00:28:07,485 --> 00:28:12,245 Speaker 1: our the poodle story with the pet suicide discussion that 478 00:28:12,285 --> 00:28:16,765 Speaker 1: we had. So this is a fun flirty tale, a 479 00:28:16,805 --> 00:28:21,005 Speaker 1: fun flirty tale from Morgan Ford. So Morgan, thank you 480 00:28:21,125 --> 00:28:25,565 Speaker 1: so much for sending this because it it literally made 481 00:28:25,565 --> 00:28:29,645 Speaker 1: me cuckle. It was wonderful. She had a friend named 482 00:28:29,725 --> 00:28:33,565 Speaker 1: Chris who owned two hamsters and he kept those hamsters 483 00:28:33,565 --> 00:28:36,485 Speaker 1: in the same cage. And one day he woke up, 484 00:28:36,485 --> 00:28:38,965 Speaker 1: he went to check on his little hamsters and found 485 00:28:39,045 --> 00:28:41,725 Speaker 1: out that this is a quote, one of the hamsters 486 00:28:41,725 --> 00:28:46,045 Speaker 1: straight up eight the other no, no, no, uh huh. Yeah. 487 00:28:46,085 --> 00:28:49,805 Speaker 1: So this killer hamster broke out. It was like prison 488 00:28:49,885 --> 00:28:53,165 Speaker 1: break in this case. Oh god, yeah, so he's like 489 00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:55,965 Speaker 1: full and then he like breaks out and then like 490 00:28:56,085 --> 00:28:59,525 Speaker 1: runs away, and he's just like, yeah, I'm free. That's 491 00:28:59,565 --> 00:29:02,765 Speaker 1: scary as hell. I can't imagine having like a scary rodent, 492 00:29:03,005 --> 00:29:06,445 Speaker 1: a ballistic rodent on the loose. That is literally my 493 00:29:06,485 --> 00:29:08,725 Speaker 1: worst nightmare. You guys know how I feel about rodents. 494 00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:13,485 Speaker 1: And also important to note, unlike pythons, hamsters can eat 495 00:29:13,765 --> 00:29:16,525 Speaker 1: a whole other hamster and scurry off into the distance. 496 00:29:16,805 --> 00:29:20,765 Speaker 1: So the more you know. So this hamster scurried off, 497 00:29:20,845 --> 00:29:24,005 Speaker 1: full hamster in his belly and runs to the laundry room. 498 00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:28,405 Speaker 1: His mom was doing laundry, had the washing machine like open, 499 00:29:28,565 --> 00:29:32,445 Speaker 1: filling with water, and looks up at the shelf above 500 00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:36,685 Speaker 1: the washing machine and there is the murderer himself, stares 501 00:29:36,725 --> 00:29:41,085 Speaker 1: dead into her eyes and jumps into the swirling water 502 00:29:41,285 --> 00:29:47,325 Speaker 1: of the washing machine. That's no, thinks was feeling remorse 503 00:29:47,405 --> 00:29:51,485 Speaker 1: for its evil deeds. Yep, m hmm yeah, yeah, I 504 00:29:51,525 --> 00:29:56,525 Speaker 1: hate when that happens. It's so awkward. Yeah, I would 505 00:29:56,525 --> 00:30:00,165 Speaker 1: feel guilty if I hit my friend. Thank you again 506 00:30:00,245 --> 00:30:05,485 Speaker 1: so much Morgan for submitting that story. It made my day. Um. Yeah, 507 00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:10,165 Speaker 1: if you have any other murder suicide animal stories. I 508 00:30:10,325 --> 00:30:13,125 Speaker 1: think this is the place to to send them. Nowhere 509 00:30:13,165 --> 00:30:15,085 Speaker 1: else I want them. I want to read them to 510 00:30:15,125 --> 00:30:19,045 Speaker 1: my future children. Thank you so much for listening to 511 00:30:19,085 --> 00:30:23,045 Speaker 1: another episode of Cadaver Galls. You are here, you endured. 512 00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:25,405 Speaker 1: So proud of you. I don't even know what we learned. 513 00:30:25,485 --> 00:30:28,045 Speaker 1: Plant a tree, save a human from a python. You 514 00:30:28,085 --> 00:30:31,725 Speaker 1: know we need more trees, We need those forests, We 515 00:30:31,805 --> 00:30:34,965 Speaker 1: need those wild pigs or that pythons that I come 516 00:30:35,005 --> 00:30:39,285 Speaker 1: for you m m m ominous. Wow. Yes, okay, well 517 00:30:40,045 --> 00:30:43,125 Speaker 1: you heard it first here. Thank you so much for 518 00:30:43,205 --> 00:30:46,805 Speaker 1: listening to another episode of Cadaver Gals. Y'all are wonderful 519 00:30:47,085 --> 00:31:05,245 Speaker 1: and goodbye. Cadaver Gals is a production of School of 520 00:31:05,325 --> 00:31:10,125 Speaker 1: Humans and iHeartRadio. It is hosted, edited, produced, and written 521 00:31:10,165 --> 00:31:14,965 Speaker 1: by Gabby Watts, Taylor Church, and myself Nika Duarte. 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