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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What is up, party, people,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre. What a beautiful Saturday morning out

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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. Uh, I will spare you my

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Speaker 1: anger to open the show at l A County requiring

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Speaker 1: everybody to put masks back on. That's just why we

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Speaker 1: got vaccinated people. But I'm not starting my final Saturday

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Speaker 1: radio show here at Fox Sports Radio with negativity. No,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking COVID or politics. We're talking sports. Baby. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: last sports weekend it was incredible. I mean with all

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Speaker 1: the soccer, the m A, NBA Finals, and then this

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Speaker 1: weekend a little less interesting. There is still some soccer USA.

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Speaker 1: I think they played Canada in the Gold Cup Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I have it in the calendar because you know, we

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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta show Canada what we're made of in

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Speaker 1: the Gold Cup. By the way, our our B team

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Speaker 1: is looking great at the at the Gold Cup, and

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Speaker 1: of course the NBA Finals tonight, Game five, pivotal Game five.

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Speaker 1: You guys know your boy was rolling in the finals.

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Speaker 1: With the gambling picks I do for Fox Sports. I've

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Speaker 1: been gambling every single night of the NBA playoffs, trying

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Speaker 1: to give you guys best bets. Put some money in

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Speaker 1: your pocket. And I was hot in the finals first

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Speaker 1: three games, I was eight and three. I was on

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Speaker 1: a roll. I could see exactly what was coming. And

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Speaker 1: I did not feel good about Game four and I whipped. Um.

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Speaker 1: It was bad, but the Suns were covering for forty

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Speaker 1: seven and a half minutes out of forty eight, and

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Speaker 1: they gagged it away at the end. Chris Paul did

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul really starting to look his age here in

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Speaker 1: the series. He's Korean. We'll do a lot on the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Um, I gotta say the only real news

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Speaker 1: to start today, and I'm not gonna count golf. UM.

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Speaker 1: Isaac will give you the updates. All I know is

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Speaker 1: I bet Rory McElroy to win it, like plus two thousand,

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Speaker 1: and he's like one under and has no shot. UM.

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Speaker 1: Heading into I think tomorrow's final round, he's wrapped up. Um.

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Speaker 1: You heard Louis Ou saysan I'm I butchered his name.

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Speaker 1: I'll save that for Isaac. Uh is the leader. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that into the U s Open. I am

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Speaker 1: into Team USA basketball, which holy hell, did they have

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Speaker 1: an awful week? They've looked atrocious here lately, losing to

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Speaker 1: Nigeria and Australia. Shout out to the NBL players on

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Speaker 1: Team Australia. You guys of course, dude, faithful followers over

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Speaker 1: the last six years on this Saturday show, No, I

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Speaker 1: was part of a group that bought an Australian basketball team,

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand Breakers. Doubt under in the NBL. Um

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Speaker 1: the Australian basketball team is pretty good. Uh, they do

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Speaker 1: not have Ben Simmons. They beat Team USA and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Team USA rebounded with a win over Argentina.

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Speaker 1: But the real story there is, did you guys hear

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Speaker 1: who they named as the replacement for Bradley Beale and

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Speaker 1: Kevin Love? Kevin Love just decided to Saint for me

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Speaker 1: and Bradley Buell got COVID and now the team is

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Speaker 1: in disarray, which should not be a massive shock. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Olympics are gonna be something of a disaster.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that locked in for the Olympics. Listen, I'm patriotic.

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Speaker 1: My parents came to this country, uh in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: Team USA obviously in the Olympics. The problem, of course,

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Speaker 1: is that they're gonna be on a tape delay because

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Speaker 1: they're happening in Tokyo. And let's be honest, like this

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Speaker 1: basketball team may not win gold, and we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: Antonio spur Pop knows him. He's a good player on

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Speaker 1: the wing. And you know, somebody would argue they've got

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Speaker 1: enough alpha's with Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum, Damian Lillard. They

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Speaker 1: JaVale McGhee thirty three years old, looks a lot older

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Speaker 1: guys right now, I've already bet USA Basketball's opening Olympic game.

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Speaker 1: You can bet on the game. They're facing France sixteen

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Speaker 1: the biggest story outside of Game five is what went

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Speaker 1: but I don't think he's doing interviews after what happened

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Speaker 1: late yesterday. So Henry Abbott, who I actually had on

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Speaker 1: story Friday morning, Chris Paul in them. Sorry not Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: As I look at the TV screens showing Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: according to Henry Abbott, is going to request to trade

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Speaker 1: We've been doing this for six six years on Saturdays,

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Speaker 1: My intention in my heart is to be in a

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Speaker 1: how that works. Unless Damian Lillard came out and said,

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the Henry Abbott report. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of people floating the Lakers. I played tennis

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Speaker 1: But the reason, one of the reason I'm ending this

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Speaker 1: in a tennis tournament next weekend. I'm in a volleyball

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Speaker 1: and it's like, let's just wrap it up before football.

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Speaker 1: not complaining. These are first world problems. But come November

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Speaker 1: with you for three hours. I could literally do that.

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Speaker 1: They talk about anything. That's the beauty of having a

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you one of the keys I've learned

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Speaker 1: it's about what they do. And Damian Lillard kind of

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Speaker 1: sort of said the right things. He's got to thread

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Speaker 1: He's probably the greatest Portland Trailblazer in the history of

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Speaker 1: even mention Brandon roy Um, Damon Stodemeyer. But I really

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Speaker 1: But things change. People change. You just have to accept that.

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Speaker 1: And and that's why you know, JIBBRONI guy who comes

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Speaker 1: was four years ago at a different time. Damian Lillard

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Speaker 1: put in all his time and energy in Portland, did

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Speaker 1: it's okay. If he wants to demand a trade. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, well, Boston's an option. Again.

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Speaker 1: a hardcore Lakers guy. He's got partial Lakers season tickets

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Speaker 1: like who would we give up for Dame? We'll give

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Speaker 1: up Kuzma, KCP, talent, Horton, Tucker Um shouting, trade, shooter,

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Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. And I don't know that it's

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Speaker 1: But if you're Portland's you've got two options. We can

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Speaker 1: it's me Jason McIntyre. Very exciting final Saturday show for

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Speaker 1: All right, Rick, what's going on? Man? It's your boy

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Speaker 1: pop next year with a new coach and some new moves.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jalen Brown hit some market. Um. I

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Speaker 1: just see I go into the Blazers fans and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we had to move Damian Lillard. Um, you know, the

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Speaker 1: bad news is we have to move Damian. The good

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Speaker 1: news is we got Jalen Brown. I don't see any

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Speaker 1: Blazers fan going oh yeah, or exactly I hear them going,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah. I just think that that from a business standpoint,

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Speaker 1: that would be a tough sell. And you're you're you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're a gambler. J Max like, you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: willing to say, hey, maybe this could turn into I'll

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Speaker 1: take the ten to one odd Jalen Brown becomes anything

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Speaker 1: remotely close to Damien Um. The business guys out there

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Speaker 1: are like, no, it's a bat, I gotta sell tickets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able for for Jail and Brown the

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00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: same way I canswer Damian TV games. You're right, but

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Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, they're basically what the Indiana

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Speaker 1: Pacers of the West like a middle middle to your

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00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: team that you're not going to get any marquee free agents.

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Speaker 1: You either have to build it through the draft or

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Speaker 1: take a chance. And uh, but but here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing back. It's like, when did we get

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Speaker 1: to the place where it's everyone's birthright that they get

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Speaker 1: to play for a champion. That's fair, That's entirely fair. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Clyd Drexler, that and that group got them

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Speaker 1: there in the nineties, I think twice. I mean I

447
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Speaker 1: was to the finals, to the finals, and you had

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Speaker 1: one of the all time great teams, uh with uh

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Speaker 1: Scot Yeah, and that whole crew. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: a dynamic Bonzi wells uh, Brian Grant, I mean that

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Speaker 1: whole crew, Jermane O'Neil, Rashid Wallace. That that was a

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Speaker 1: great team. And it's you know that you can go

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Speaker 1: back through the history of the NBA, there's these these

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Speaker 1: certain junctures where two teams are great at the same time,

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Speaker 1: and one goes one direction and one goes the other.

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Speaker 1: And the Portland Trailblazers, unfortunately, have always been the team

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Speaker 1: so far that has gotten to the that that precipice

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Speaker 1: and they're the team that gets close but doesn't feel it,

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Speaker 1: whereas I think it was once the Lakers with that

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Speaker 1: that that game, and then UM and then san Antonio

461
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: very similar. You know, san Antonio was right on the brink.

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Speaker 1: They end up going forward, the Blazers end up falling off.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll wrap up with quick NBA Finals questions.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Rick, are you in the camp that

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Speaker 1: the Suns are still in control here? Or have the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: who look great at home, dominating the offensive, glass dominating

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Speaker 1: fast breakpoints? Um? Can the Bucks role players? Connaton? I

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Speaker 1: sorry called Middleton role player, but he hasn't played well

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Speaker 1: in the road at all? Can they do this in

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Speaker 1: Phoenix in game five? And it really take a strangle

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Speaker 1: hold of this year. It's the biggest question without and

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Speaker 1: you've you've been pointed it. It's the It's the role players.

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Speaker 1: It's also Chris Paul if you look at his plus

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Speaker 1: minus differential between the road and home during the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: it's massive. It's like plus twelve at home, it's minus

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Speaker 1: twelve on the road. And so the the hope that

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul can have a rejuvenation here in Game five,

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Speaker 1: there's some statistical reason to believe that that's possible. But

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Speaker 1: I look at what the Bucks did have done in

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Speaker 1: every series when I started on the road, they haven't

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Speaker 1: been well. When they when they get go back to

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Speaker 1: a team to a city on the road, they're a

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Speaker 1: different team. They were a different team when they went

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Speaker 1: back to Atlanta, they were a different team when they

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Speaker 1: went back to Brooklyn Um. And I just look at

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Speaker 1: some matchups here that I don't know how Phoenix counters

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Speaker 1: right now, the Chris Middleton Janissanta to come bow two

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00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: man game versus Mikaal Bridges and DeAndre Ayton, I'm taking Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: And if you give me Chris Paul and DeAndre Ayton

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Speaker 1: versus Jannazanta to compo and Drew Holiday to first team

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Speaker 1: all defensive players, I'm taking the Bucks in that matchup too.

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Speaker 1: So if it comes down to a close game, I

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Speaker 1: like what Milwaukee is going to be going to and

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Speaker 1: I like what Milkwaukee is going to defend with and

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that that offensive rebounding is going

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Speaker 1: to change. They've dominated that category in every single game.

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Speaker 1: Even in Game one it wasn't as great, but it

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Speaker 1: was still eighteen to eleven. That just that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to be as efficient, you're just getting you're getting

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Speaker 1: way more bites of the apple. Then then the other

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Speaker 1: team it's it's hard to overcome. That means you gotta

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Speaker 1: play you gotta play defense longer, and they're probably getting

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Speaker 1: second chance oppera tunity is right at the rim, and

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Speaker 1: that's just that's difficult. And all this is assuming that

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul can be some semblance of the Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: that we saw mostly in Game one a little in

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Speaker 1: Game two, but since dru Holiday has been on him,

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Speaker 1: he has not been the same player. Totally agree. All right,

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Speaker 1: Rick Buker, you can follow him on Twitter at Rick Buker. Alright, Rick,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Enjoy the game today, man, alright,

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Speaker 1: coming up next here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, did

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Speaker 1: you guys see the Sad News Biz? Marquis, the great

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00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: rapper from the late eighties early nineties, passed away. Um

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Speaker 1: I have a story about that song. Just a friend

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Speaker 1: I'll tell that next I know you guys like that,

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Speaker 1: Every you guys ever get in the friend zone, it's

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Speaker 1: not not a fun place to be. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that next year on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Isaac Chrown first. I think I was in the

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Speaker 1: anchor equivalent of the Friends over There's a great skit

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Speaker 1: about that on Saturday Night Live. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: just throw that out there. Around three of the British Open,

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Speaker 1: good boarding, Jason underway, Louis oost Hazen has the lead

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Speaker 1: at eleven under par, two shots ahead of Colin Morikawa,

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Speaker 1: who's in the Gulf friend zone right now. They will

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Speaker 1: tee off about twenty five minutes from now. Jordan's speed

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Speaker 1: three shots back. He'll tee off about fifteen minutes from now.

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Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson four off the lead. He'll tee off in

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Speaker 1: about five minutes Olympic organizers confirmed today that a person

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Speaker 1: staying in the Olympic village in Tokyo has tested positive

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Speaker 1: for COVID. The person was not an athlete and was

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Speaker 1: identified as games concerned personnel who came from outside of Japan.

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Speaker 1: Also today, in Japan, Germany's men's soccer team walked off

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Speaker 1: the field with five minutes remaining in a pre Olympics

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Speaker 1: match against hon Duras due to alleged racist abuse directed

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Speaker 1: at German player Jordan to rue Naga. The Honduras team

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Speaker 1: tweeted that it was a quote misunderstanding unquote. In Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball Friday night, the San Diego Padres scored a

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Speaker 1: franchise record twenty four runs in a twenty four to

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Speaker 1: eight victory at Washington. Jake cronin Worth of the Padres

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Speaker 1: hit for the cycle in only six innings. Will Myers

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Speaker 1: had two home runs, including a grand slam. Tommy fam

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Speaker 1: had four hits, including a home run. In Oakland on

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Speaker 1: Friday night, the Age trailed Cleveland four to three when

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Speaker 1: Jed Lowry was at the plate with one man on

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Speaker 1: in the bottom of the ninth inning. Here Ramira's gone

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Speaker 1: back at the track right to the wall. Looking up

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Speaker 1: in the Athletics have taken a five to four win.

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Speaker 1: Jed Lowry hitting one out of the friends. Look at Isaac,

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Speaker 1: we really get that, all the all the friends zone references.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Um, thank you Isaac back here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. It's funny. Um. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: looking at the bis Market News and I was looking

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: at this catalog of songs. It's just a Friend came

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Speaker 1: out in nine nine. I could probably wrap of the

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Speaker 1: song right now. Just because you know, us guys who

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00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: grew up on like late eighties earlies rap, early nineties rap,

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00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, you had to like tape the song. You

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Speaker 1: didn't have there's no phones to just replay it over

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Speaker 1: and over. You have to actually tape it. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: like go on the internet and find lyrics. Internet wasn't

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Speaker 1: really available back then. Um. But the song, every time

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Speaker 1: I hear it reminds me of sixth grade and that

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Speaker 1: was the first time I tried to make this girl

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Speaker 1: my girlfriend, and I like asked her, Hey, do you

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Speaker 1: want to be my girlfriend? You know, we were tight

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Speaker 1: and we would like talk on the phone frequently. And

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Speaker 1: my wife knows this story, so don't this is not

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Speaker 1: like a big thing. Oh, you need to send me message.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you told that. Guys, I've been a

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Speaker 1: truth teller on this Saturday show for six years. What

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00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: do you think I'm gonna go out and lie or

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00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: hold anything back. So you know, we sat close to

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Speaker 1: each other in class, we passed notes. I was like

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Speaker 1: feeling like, oh, she's into me. This is great. And

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Speaker 1: then I said, do you want to be my girlfriend?

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Speaker 1: She goes, no, No, that's okay. Well I think we're

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Speaker 1: better as friends. And I was just devastated, like totally shook. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I listened to Just a Friend bisin Markee tons

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Speaker 1: of times, and I was trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: I did wrong. Um. And then you know, looking in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: it was nothing I did wrong. She just didn't think

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Speaker 1: of me as boyfriend material. Um. Now the funniest part

589
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Speaker 1: is this girl is out here in l a. Um,

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Speaker 1: she hasn't live near me. I haven't seen her. I

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00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: think she was maybe at our high school reunion. Um. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I think she's divorced. She went was like a gymnast

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00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: at Ohio State, something along those lines. But the I

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Speaker 1: think the rejection that we get toughens us up and

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00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: makes us harder, right, it gets us better. Like I've

596
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: always thrived off of rejection. And the story that I've

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00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: told a lot on this show was when I started

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Speaker 1: the website that I ended up selling and you know,

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Speaker 1: got me on this track to where I am today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the reason I got this radio show six

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Speaker 1: years ago was essentially because of failure. I had an

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Speaker 1: interview at ESPN the magazine. I was living in Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: with the girlfriend now now she's my wife, and I

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Speaker 1: had interview at ESPN the magazine, and I had prepped

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Speaker 1: everything for this interview. I was totally ready. I had

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Speaker 1: two friends they were actually dating and ended up getting married. Um,

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00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: my roommate and this girl and um they worked at

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Speaker 1: ESPN the magazine. They got me the intro and I

609
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Speaker 1: went and crushed the interview, and I was totally ready

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Speaker 1: for everything. And the guys like, you know, Jason, you

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Speaker 1: you know a lot about sports, you know a lot

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Speaker 1: about this magazine, you know a lot about me. You're

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Speaker 1: well researched. And he hit me with a freaking curveball.

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Speaker 1: As I'm feeling myself in the interview, like, ah, got

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Speaker 1: a good shirt on, got the tie, I'm ready, I'm

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Speaker 1: rolling and he goes tell me something interesting that does

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Speaker 1: not involve sports, and I was just like frozen. I

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Speaker 1: was like, whoa what this is a sports magazine, Like

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Speaker 1: plants in my little dingy apartment in New York City

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Speaker 1: and they were dying because of course I'm not watering

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Speaker 1: them and they're not getting a lot of sunlight. And

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Speaker 1: my dad told me, hey, Jason, here was like a

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Speaker 1: little trick. Go buy some Epps and salt from you know,

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Speaker 1: CVS or whatever and put it in the plant and

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Speaker 1: it will revive it. And I was like, all right, Dad,

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Speaker 1: you know this stuff. I don't. You grew up on

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Speaker 1: an island, you know all this stuff, And of course

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Speaker 1: it works. So I mean with you know, in an

632
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: interview process, you've only got a few seconds. You can't

633
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: sit down him and Hall for ninety seconds. And I

634
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: used that and like I was like, oh, that's kind

635
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: of interesting, but like the interview ended shortly after that,

636
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: and I knew I wasn't getting it, and I walked

637
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: outside of the building. I'll never forget if you guys

638
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: know New York City, Bryant Park was where the ESPN

639
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: the magazine offices were, and I walk outside and i

640
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: just looked straight up at the sky and I'm like,

641
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: dang it, except with some bad words. I'm not getting

642
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: the job. And I called the wife and I said,

643
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was going great, and then I bombed distincts.

644
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: I have to keep doing the website, you know, I was.

645
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: I was basically working two jobs as working at US Weekly,

646
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: the celebrity magazine, and then I had started the website

647
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: on the side anonymously, but it wasn't making money. And

648
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: I told you She's like, You're just gonna have to

649
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: keep doing the website. It's doing well. This is this

650
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: is a bigger deal. And she was like positive about it,

651
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: and I was super negative that I couldn't get this

652
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: awesome job. Well, keep doing the website. It pops within

653
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: like six months to a year, and next thing, you know,

654
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: it sells and I'm in demand and I get the

655
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: radio show. Like all of its stem from failure. Um,

656
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, we get lucky in life. I've got a

657
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: couple of these stories ready in the chamber for later today.

658
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: But I just want to tell you, guys, I failed

659
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: with that girl in sixth grades. Next year, I got

660
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: a girl to be my girlfriend. Whose awesome. UM, I

661
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: screwed that one up to just for the record, UM,

662
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: But failure is good. And there is a story that

663
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna weave next about Janice and failure. We'll talk

664
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: about that next year on Fox Sports Radio back here

665
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Failure is a is an interesting

666
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: thing because when you're in the midst of failure, it's

667
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: like the worst thing ever. It stinks, and there's always

668
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: something better down the line. And the story I just

669
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: told about, you know, failing with a girl in sixth grade,

670
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: failing with a job interview. UM, failure really helps us

671
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: in the long term. Uh, Janice is a great, great

672
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: story about that. Right now, guy wins two MVP awards

673
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: and then he fails in the playoffs twice, and all

674
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: we do is, you know, I'm I'm sure I bashed

675
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: him plenty here. UM, we bashed Middleton. Um, we don't

676
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: think they could win a championship. And now Janice is

677
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: two games away from being a champ. You know, as

678
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: long as you take the failure the right way. Now,

679
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: a guy like Richard Sherman a story that I don't

680
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: feel very comfortable talking about, um, but we'll touch on

681
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: it later. We have a guest coming up. UM Like

682
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman had a lot of failure right before the draft.

683
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Um it ends up going in the fifth round. Everything

684
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: falls into place, boom boom boom. Guys at ahead of

685
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: him on the depth chart fail fall through and then

686
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: he gets his gets his chance and dominates. And now

687
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is at the at the end of his career.

688
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on personally with him. It

689
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: sounds like there are some demons and things are not

690
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: going well at all, and like he's going through it

691
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: right now. Now, how can he rebound from this? I'm

692
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: sure that one of the TV networks will give him

693
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: an opportunity within the next year, assuming that, you know

694
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: more negativity doesn't come out. But I think the other

695
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: thing failure does is it actually really does a good

696
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: job of putting you on a path to success. And again,

697
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not some guys sitting up here talking like I'm

698
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: the richest guy in the world and I know how

699
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: to get you rich because anybody who tries to tell

700
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: you how to get rich quick like that doesn't exist.

701
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: The you know, the elevator to the top is out

702
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: of out of order. You gotta have to take the stairs.

703
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: You gotta go to hard way. But I do believe

704
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: what my failure did at that ESPN the magazine interview

705
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: is it help me turn kind of myself into a business.

706
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: And you know, I know website was the big lead,

707
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: and I was doing it anonymously, but as soon as

708
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: I put my name on it, I kind of branded myself.

709
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: Oh that's Jason McIntyre. Because that's the fastest way to

710
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: wealth in America is becoming your own brand and having

711
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: your own business. And you know, Janice is a perfect

712
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: example of that. You know, Janice is a skinny kid

713
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: from Greece. I think Frandfrastilla joked that he was two

714
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: years away from being two years away at the draft,

715
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: which is to get one of the all time great

716
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: NBA draft lines. And this guy was at like a

717
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: low division in Greece playing basketball, comes over here, skinny

718
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: and awkward, and all of a sudden, by year three,

719
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: the guy puts in work that immigrant mentality and he

720
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: starts to take over the league and the lot of

721
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: this guys something and now he's the Greek freak and

722
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: now he's a super Max guy and he two wins

723
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: away fro entitle that block he had on DeAndre at

724
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: and when it happened, I instantly said, that's the greatest

725
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Finals block since Lebron's chased down of the Igodala layup.

726
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Janice made himself into a business. Now you are, on

727
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: an individual level putting your name out there. When you

728
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: become your own business like Janice, you gotta face the

729
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: criticism and that's gonna come with it as long as

730
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: you take on accountability by putting your name out there,

731
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: that's how you can pop. Now a lot of it's

732
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't built for it. I had

733
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: some guy who is a total jerk and egomaniac tried

734
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: to tell me that he wasn't sure I was built

735
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: for putting my name on stuff and having strong takes.

736
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: And he's now basically out of the sports business. He's

737
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: so he thought he was like God's gift. This guy

738
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: is like the worst person I've ever had to work with.

739
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Um just a total clown. And he tried to tell

740
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: me he was built for this, and like two years later,

741
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: you know he's out of the industry. He just totally

742
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: misread everything. But there are similarities in life too, um,

743
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: like janice and failure. I just love it all. And

744
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals are tonight coming up next hour number two,

745
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: my final Saturday show here on Fox Sports Radio. Fun

746
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: will be had our number two here on Fox Sports Radio.

747
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Hope everybody's weekends off to a awesome start. We're getting

748
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: close to the end of the NBA season, We're getting

749
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: close to the Olympics. I thought I would Sam would

750
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: toss in a yawn noise there for the Olympics. I

751
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I would say, have you fired up about

752
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: the Olympics? There we go, there's the Yeah, it's a

753
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: it's I mean, is Michael Phelps is not in it? Right? Yeah?

754
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: I think he's done. Like I don't know a lot

755
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: of the Olympics. You guys know how it is when

756
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: the Olympics hit, people get kind of excited because you're

757
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: watching it. But it's a tough sell on the tape delay. Man,

758
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: that's a real difficult one. Obviously, I'll watched a basketball Um,

759
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you what sports are in the

760
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: summer Olympics. I think track and field, you know, because

761
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of that um and there's a

762
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: very um there's a couple of very good stories on

763
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: the track and field side. I do love that. I

764
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: still think one of my favorite Olympic memories from track

765
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: and field was I think it was the US men's

766
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: either four by one or four by two hundred. It

767
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: was like, I think the guy's name was John Drummond

768
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: and they had three other dudes, and these guys were

769
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: just so cocky and arrogant and obviously fast. Um, they

770
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: win the gold and then they just like, you know,

771
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: they're wearing those singlets and they would just take down

772
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: the top and they're shredded and they just start flexing.

773
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: You know. It's just it was just awesome. It's just

774
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: like we're bragging we're the fastest people on the planet

775
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: we want, you know, and here we're just gonna show

776
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: off our muscles and look cool. Like that's a memorable moment.

777
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: That's not you know, we only last on this earth

778
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: for a tiny uh somebody called it a mustard burp.

779
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: That's the length of our time on this plan. And

780
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: then We're gone and Earth keeps going. And that memory

781
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: of guys in the Olympics winning the gold and then

782
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: just flexing at the finish line. You know, cocky is hell.

783
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: That's gonna last forever. Um. I don't know if I

784
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: if I will do anything that last forever. Maybe, I mean,

785
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't really care because I'm gone. Why would I

786
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: give a rip um? But you know, NBA Finals legacy

787
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: can be made. Maybe tonight does Chris Paul get redemption?

788
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: There's good storylines. It's funny Saturday night in the middle

789
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: of July and there's an NBA Finals game. Like they

790
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: screwed up the schedule. And I had heard somewhere that

791
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: the reason that they added a day between Games three

792
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and four was because they didn't want to go head

793
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: to head with the Major League Baseball I think All

794
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Star Game, and then came to w NBA All Star Game,

795
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: and now they're trapped in this weird down cycle where

796
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: they have Game five, the most pivotal game of the series.

797
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: It's on a Saturday night in July. This is primo

798
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: travel time, beach time. I don't know anybody holding off

799
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: on on travel or any exciting trips. So they can

800
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: watch the NBA Finals after Lakers were in it. It

801
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: was Lakers Nets. I mean, I think it'd be appointment viewing.

802
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: But you gotta have that on Sunday. Kiss Saturday. I mean,

803
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, our Saturday's kind of packed. My uh, you know,

804
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: one of my kids, well, both of my kids are

805
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: in a summer league basketball. My daughter is in a

806
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: co ed league. First girl to score a bucket in

807
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: the rising third grade division, second and third. Uh this

808
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: summer scored an auto offensive put back. Do you guys

809
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: follow me on the gram? I posted that along with

810
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of other nonsense. Um, but yeah, like it was.

811
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: It got the whole crowd hyped. You know, like, listen,

812
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: the boys are a little physical and aggressive, and I'm

813
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: just proud my daughters in there. And she's uh, I said,

814
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this. It's cool when you

815
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: can your kids get old enough that you can send

816
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: them texts and then they're still up for responding. I

817
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: do know that when they get to be like twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

818
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: they don't respond to your text or it's an emoji answer.

819
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: But like I text the kids during the show, he

820
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: did you wake up? Did you eat breakfast. You gotta

821
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: get some shots up. Do the dribbling drills. I put

822
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: them through certain dribbling drills, you know, like day of game,

823
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: day before game. Yes, I'm that nerdy dad. I don't.

824
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm not under the impression like some dads that I know.

825
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name them here on the show,

826
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: but I'm friends with them, and some of them listen

827
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: who think that their kids going to the NFL or

828
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: the n b A or whatever. I'm not under any

829
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: illusions of that. I am a realist. I understand their limitations.

830
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: I understand uh, neither of their parents, me or the wife.

831
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: We didn't play professional sports, we didn't play college sports.

832
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: I didn't like I was a really good youth athlete.

833
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: But I can. I have no problem admitting I didn't

834
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: really get bigger. I was a late bloomer. So a

835
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: lot of other kids got big, you know, seventh grade,

836
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: eighth grade, ninth grade are getting huge. I'm staying the

837
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: same size, and I just could not hang physically with them. Now,

838
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: I can hang physically with anybody my age group, you know,

839
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: thirty five to whatever, um. But I don't. I don't

840
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: expect my kids to be big time athletes. But the

841
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: value in sports is massive, And I try to explain

842
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: this to people, like it's it's weird. A lot of parents,

843
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: even you know, my oldest is going in fifth grade,

844
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: they're already saying, like, you gotta start specializing so you

845
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: can play club and travel. And I'm like, guys, like

846
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: that goes against a lot of what the professionals and

847
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: the experts in the field say. Play as many sports

848
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: as you can, have as much fun as you can.

849
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Playing multiple sports gets different parts of the brain unlocked.

850
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: If you just do baseball, are you going to get

851
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: the footwork that you would get in soccer and basketball

852
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: and and vice versa, Like doing football is good. Some

853
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: of their kids are already being pulled out of sports

854
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: so they can specialize in certain sports. I just think

855
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: that's insane and you're gonna drive the kid to burn out.

856
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just that's just one aspect of it.

857
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: But I I pushed the kids into sports because you

858
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: want to talk to anybody who went to like a

859
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: Harvard Business school, attended top schools and have good jobs

860
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, and a really successful people

861
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: that are hiring in the position of hiring, they want

862
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: to see people they love people who played sports because

863
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: it shows the ability to be competitive. You know what

864
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: it takes to win. Are you gonna do it? You

865
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: know the time and efforts you've got to put into

866
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: practice to play sports. You get to show up game

867
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: day and expect to be great. You've got to practice

868
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: and work hard towards a goal. And then there's teamwork,

869
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: working well with others. Are you a team player? Do

870
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: you know how to share the basketball? Do you know

871
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: how to defer to someone else? Do you know how

872
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: to set screens to unlock people? You know, strategy, teamwork,

873
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: All this stuff matters greatly and if you can get

874
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: that foundation early playing sports, whether it's hey man, I

875
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: need to dedicate myself to work hard toward this. I

876
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: need to work hard towards a goal with a common

877
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: goal with other team members. Sports has that, and that's

878
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: why when you go to try to get an internship

879
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: and you try to apply to college, they want to

880
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: see a very diverse person who has done a lot

881
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: of stuff. They want to see that you are a

882
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: team player in way more aspects than just one. And

883
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, like it's great to play individual sports, tennis, golf, yes,

884
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff matters. That's great, but there is so

885
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: much value in team sports even if your kid is

886
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: not a star. I was never a star growing up.

887
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean there was a moment where I was a

888
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: star in soccer, like a brief year or two where

889
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: I was really really good and like made All Stars

890
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: and then got picked up on a club team. But

891
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: the reality was, yeah, I was a average at best

892
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: basketball player in like middle school. Um, and I couldn't

893
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: even make our high school team. You know, I was

894
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: like super small and couldn't make it. And now you know,

895
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have this where you are,

896
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: but we're in a community where there's multiple elementary school,

897
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: there's a middle school, there's a high school or two,

898
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: and essentially they set up a tournament where parents play

899
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: soccer against each other, softball, and there's a basketball one.

900
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: And you know, you've got to be the if you're

901
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: the captain of the basketball team, you've got to wrangle

902
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: the dads to come and play in the tournament. And like,

903
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: for me, this is everything. I love this, I love

904
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: this stuff. This is great. And then of course there's

905
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: a couple of dads who go to my kids school, Um,

906
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: who played professional sports or college sports. For instance, my

907
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: kid goes to elementary school with Nomar Garcia paras kid

908
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: and No Mare's wife is Mia Ham, who's one of

909
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: the greatest women soccer players ever. Um And so the

910
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: parents soccer tournament's coming up, and a dad says, well, Jason,

911
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: you know me a Ham right. I was like, not really,

912
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: we need her on our soccer team. We won the

913
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: championship in twenty nine. Team we need be a Ham. Like,

914
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: do you really think me a hands gonna come play? Um?

915
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: And for basketball, there's a guy who played at Perdue

916
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: and his kid is in a low grade, so I

917
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: tried to get him out to play in our pickup games.

918
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, man, I've done basketball. It's like, what

919
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: are you talking about. You played a Perdue, he was

920
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: a star, you know, maybe average like three points a

921
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: game as a senior or something, you know, but he's

922
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: on a high level college basketball team. Walk on turn

923
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: scholarship guy. We have a former NFL player. I'm not

924
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna say his name. I'm friendly with him. We need

925
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: him on the basketball team. You know. Like, I'm into

926
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: this stuff and I want to show my kids the

927
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: value of just being part of a team and I

928
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: personally love it. I'm having as much fun in my

929
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: life as I've ever had. And I'm sure a lot

930
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: of people are asking, well, why are you giving up

931
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: the radio show? And you know, guys, I, like I

932
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: said last hour, I've been a truth teller forever. It's

933
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: part of what got me here where I am right now.

934
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: And I think, without question, I wanted my goal. You know,

935
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: when I first got into radio was I want a

936
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: five day week radio show. I would love that. Well,

937
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the path to that is start a weekend show, pop

938
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: and then you get the weekday show. And a funny

939
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: thing happened on my way to wanting a five day

940
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: week show. This thing called podcasts really started to pop

941
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: and people are building podcast networks. People are starting to

942
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: pay big money on advertising for podcasts and Fox Sports

943
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: Radio About a little over a year ago, was it

944
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in Miami? Was when they approached me

945
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we want to start a

946
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: daily podcast. Are you interested? It was like, of course.

947
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: So essentially the dream of a five day a week

948
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: radio show changed to why would I want that when

949
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: I can do a five day week podcast from my house.

950
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Let's say that would be incredible. It's perfect and so

951
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: like I said, like this whole like, hey, that tweet

952
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: aged well, well, I mean think about it. Four years

953
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: ago I was like, yeah, I would love five day

954
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: week radio show, and then two years ago podcast I

955
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: mean Bill Simmons sold some podcast network to Spotify. What

956
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: was the number for uh Sam, like seventy million dollars

957
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: in saying money, there's a lot of money to be

958
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: made in podcast. So all of a sudden, you ad

959
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: just your goals because you realize, oh, things are different.

960
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't have to come into the studio to do

961
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: the podcast. I could do it from my home. I

962
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: can book guests different hours, Like when you have a

963
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: five day a week radio show, you're locked in, you know,

964
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: twelve to three or whatever the hours are right now.

965
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: For my podcast, I can do interviews with anybody any

966
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: time of the day. You know. I've got duties with

967
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Fox Sports obviously in FS one, and sometimes there are

968
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: things where I absolutely can't do an interview, But more

969
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: often than not, it's like, oh, yeah, ten thirty in

970
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: the morning, let's do that. Um, I can't do twelve.

971
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: I gotta pick up my kids from camp. I could do,

972
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: and like the games just constantly changing and we have

973
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: to evolve along with it. What's the saying evolver die,

974
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: adapt or die. Like things are changing, I'm gonna change

975
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: with it. And since I got the five day week

976
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: you know podcast, when you look at football season, folks,

977
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: and again first world problems, not digging ditches. It's it's

978
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: fun work. It's not exactly hard work, but five day

979
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: week radio show. We're doing multiple shows, uh, digital gambling

980
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: shows for Fox Sports. You know, I go on the

981
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: TV shows at Fox or FS one by the way,

982
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: I'll be on Speak for Yourself coming up and Undisputed,

983
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, the backing of the fill in guys crushing

984
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: it and it's a lot of fun. Like when they

985
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: call I gotta be ready. Um So I got a

986
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: lot going on, and it's like, well, what are my

987
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: weekend's gonna be like during football? Because Sunday obviously, you know,

988
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: you do the gambling show right before NFL. And the

989
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: only room for change for me was dropping the Saturday

990
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: show and it's free up and unlocks my Friday nights.

991
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: Not that I'm a big booze guy, I mean, I

992
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: mean we could talk about that if you guys want.

993
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: But like I was saying, you you're you're a pretty

994
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: young guy. Like I was a party animal in college

995
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: and afterward, Right, what am I doing partying now? Like

996
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: I'll have fun, but like getting hammered and just wrecked,

997
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: like that doesn't appeal to me now like it did

998
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: when I was like twenty two because I didn't know

999
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: how to. You know, I was a little nervous around

1000
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: the attractive women, so I needed that liquid courage. Um,

1001
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: But like, are you getting hammered like now like you

1002
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: were before at Iowa? I mean, it just depends on

1003
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: the night. I guess you know, what do you mean

1004
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: depend So so there are nights where you're like stumbling

1005
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: around hammered. I mean, I don't know. I always Sam

1006
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: hates it when I put him on the spot. I

1007
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: figured this is my last show on a Saturday. Now

1008
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: I will be working with him, I'm sure in the future,

1009
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 1: because I will be still filling in Dan Patrick show,

1010
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show, A couple whatever. You didn't know about this,

1011
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: I didn't know about it and I just found out

1012
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'm stunned. Wait when when did you, like literally

1013
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: just in the last hour. Yes, that's correct. I didn't.

1014
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: I guess I should have mentioned it to you. Um. Yeah,

1015
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: we made the decision, uh, probably a week or two

1016
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: ago and talk to the big bosses about it and

1017
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: like it. Just it'll feel good to get Saturday mornings back. Um.

1018
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: I know some of you were saying, I'm ruining your

1019
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: Saturday morning routine when you get donuts so you can

1020
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: play basketball, or you go to the grocery store, whatever

1021
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: it is. Um, but I still have a five day

1022
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: a week podcast, and I think some of the elements

1023
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: that you guys like from this show I'm gonna do

1024
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: more of on Straight Fire. Obviously subscribed to that. Um.

1025
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say you had no idea. I

1026
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: had no idea, and um, it's crazy because this you know,

1027
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: I was your technical producer when you're out living outside

1028
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: of Phil Yes, sir, six years ago. I would say

1029
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: it was from the beginning, and you know, we'll wrap

1030
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: up before we go to the excitement. The funniest part, um,

1031
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: was that, like the first few radio shows I did,

1032
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I thought in some capacity I had like a say

1033
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: in what the bumper music was. I don't know if

1034
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: you remember this, I was saying, I mean you always

1035
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: do if you really want to, well, I would. I

1036
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: would like think of songs that I want as bumper

1037
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: music and send it. There was a guy named Danny

1038
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: G who I think went on to do Clay Travis's

1039
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: show and then another one, and like I think, for

1040
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: like the first six months, I would send, Hey, here's

1041
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: the songs. I would like his bumpers music, and he

1042
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: just never really replied. And I got the memo eventually

1043
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: when he would not play the songs. And I didn't

1044
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: say like, hey, why aren't you playing this stuff? I

1045
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: asked like, I just figured, Okay, I'm new to radio.

1046
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: I guess that I thought that's how it worked. I

1047
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: get to pick the music. I just shut up now

1048
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: and stop sending you emails about it. Um. But yeah,

1049
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: like I've learned so much. It's it's fun, it's awesome.

1050
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: It's but listen, you gotta go on fun joy rides

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00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: in life. And this has been incredible. And again I'm

1052
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: not done doing radio. UM, I'll still be filling in. Uh,

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: it's just that the duties are many right now. UM.

1054
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't want to say COVID

1055
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: his last year and I did not contract COVID just

1056
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: to be clear. UM got me seeing like I've just

1057
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: gotten way more philosophical, like listening to podcasts on philosophy,

1058
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: and I picked up a couple of books on philosophy,

1059
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: and like, I guess I'm just thinking differently now being

1060
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: out here crunchy California guy as opposed to UM Northeast Jason,

1061
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: which was grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, work, work, work,

1062
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: make money, make but like a little different now. But

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, we got

1064
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: a great guest. Dude. He broke a massive story this week.

1065
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: It's awesome. We'll talk about that next year on Fox

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Back back here on Fox Sports Radio. I

1067
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: feel like I know this song where I should know it,

1068
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: but I don't. Um, we got an interesting guest coming

1069
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: up now. He's the author of a book called Can't

1070
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: Knock the Hustle. His name is Matt Sullivan, and he

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: dropped kind of a bomb I think on on social

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00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: media on the NBA this week. Matt, how are you, man?

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00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Thanks for having me, Yeah, hey, thanks

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00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: for taking the time. Like when I first saw your tweet,

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00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa. Let me let's start here.

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00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: How much heat did you get a for this book? Uh?

1077
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 1: And be like, how much heat did you get this week?

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00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: From people on social media? I think this is the

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: unvarnessed truth that we don't see a lot from. You know,

1080
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: your typical NBA writers, as much as I love them,

1081
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: are out there talking about his nose in the daily

1082
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: operations and you know, minor soap operas of the NBA.

1083
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: I think I got really under the hood. And you know,

1084
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about two of the most overcovered but also

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: some would say over dramatic superstars in the NBA and

1086
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: k D and Kyrie, and so there's a lot of

1087
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: I guess people have been calling them bomb shells in

1088
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: this book precisely because I haven't let any cats out

1089
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: of the bag for two years of deep reporting with

1090
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, four hundred plus interviews, and now those caps

1091
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: do come out of the bag, and I think, tweet

1092
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: about it, and look, Kevin Grant's tweeting back at me. Yeah,

1093
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: And and these are conversations that you know, maybe he

1094
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr thought it was private when they went

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: out for a drink and he told him, you know,

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: stop worrying about the haters, as it just like Lebron did,

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: and then Steve Kerr a couple of years later, you know,

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00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: especially the third year with the Warriors. He says, I

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00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: could see the strain on his face every day, especially

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Speaker 1: that third year, just all day. It was really he

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: was staring into that phone all the time. And so

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00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: that and a lot of other you know, more current

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00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: moments I think out under the skin of some of

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00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: these guys. But it's the unbarness truth and they're clapping back,

1105
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: but they're not questioning the reporting. Yeah, I love the

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: truth telling. Uh. Something. I haven't read the book yet,

1107
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: but some of the stuff I've seen is like, I

1108
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: gotta read this book. Uh, And I gotta say, you know, Matt,

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00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: it's weird. The guys who played in the eighties, the

1110
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Magic Bird, the guys who play in the nineties, Jordan's

1111
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: they never had to deal with the social media aspect.

1112
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: This has really changed the game. I think we've seen

1113
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL how it impacted Baker Mayfield and like

1114
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: he had to, he had to admit, like I need

1115
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: to stop doing this. It's getting in my head. And

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: the NBA players, I feel like are impacted more than

1117
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: any other sport, like baseball. I don't know, but the

1118
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: like NBA Twitter is a thing. It's a bunch of

1119
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: idiots on they think they know NBA talking, but the

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01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: players let it get to their head. And I've got

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01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: to say, Kyrie Irving, I'm more worried about Kyrie than

1122
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. Frankly, based on your reporting, what what do

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Speaker 1: you think of Kyrie Irving at this point? Is he

1124
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: probably gonna just pull the plug on the NBA at

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Speaker 1: some random point. I think Kyrie has had a lot

1126
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: going on since let's say the flat Earth stuff right

1127
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: where we all knew the heady dude, but maybe a

1128
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: bit too out there. He has in some ways in

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01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: a couple of last couple of years come shall we

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: say full circle, as really a man, a humanitarian and activist,

1131
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: and I think he's trying to find those things really

1132
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: beyond basketball that move him. I mean this goes back

1133
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: to like the summer of when he and Kadi went

1134
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: to Vegas with their entourages. Kyrie was rehabbing in Seattle

1135
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: and a crappy little gym with some other guys like

1136
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: Zach Lavine and Bill Russell rolls in low key with

1137
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: his cane and starts telling stories around the campfire, and

1138
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: Kyrie starts to think about, you know, a racist or

1139
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: racial history of Boston fans, is that's kind of the

1140
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: team I want a champion. He goes to the Standing

1141
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: Rock Reservation where his mom's from, and then he's kind

1142
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: of connecting with his spiritual, you know, headiness. And then

1143
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: his grandfather dies when he was really close to so

1144
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: even though he'd promised Boston fans he would stay for

1145
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: the long term, that changed things. And he would go

1146
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: on to tell k D quote anything I was doing

1147
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: in basketball from that moment, I didn't really care, And

1148
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: like that, Poopy was done with Boston and he's moving

1149
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: on to all these those controversial topics. But I think

1150
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the credit he deserves for really growing

1151
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: up as a guy and vocalizing why, you know, basketball

1152
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: is just a day job. But can you understand when

1153
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: I look at a guy and say, Wow, you want

1154
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: a title with Lebron. Now you want to get away

1155
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: from Lebron. Then you go to Boston. You're playing with

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01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: really talented young guys and a coach Brad Stevens, who's

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01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: one of the better coaches in the league at the time.

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: And you want out of that. And now you're in

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and past year. I mean, Matt, we're we're talking

1160
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: about a guy who just went a wall from his

1161
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: team twice. I think he went a wall in some reasons,

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01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: in some respects for fraternity leaves, in some respects for

1163
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: something he didn't communicate that well with the NETS about

1164
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: his needing some time away for very personal reasons, but

1165
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: also for political reasons. You know, that leave of absence

1166
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: was precipitated by the Capital riot, by the lack of

1167
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: charges in the shooting of Jacob Blake, which you'll remember

1168
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: sparked the boycott in the bubble that a lot of

1169
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: people said Kyrie was right all along for boycotting the bubble.

1170
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: He comes back, he gets caught, you know, Matt Mathless,

1171
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: that this family birthday party that extends the absence gets

1172
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: him a slap on the wrist from NETS management. He

1173
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: has to apologize. He comes back. You know what he

1174
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: came back. He was protesting the national anthem low key,

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe not a protest so much as just

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: he's over it. He sits it out. He k d

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01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's They disappeared during warmups. Layoff lines, they happen

1178
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: to come back right after the anthem for the starting lineup.

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01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: So it's just these little things that I've noticed and

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01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: that I think also helped me connect with these off

1181
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: the court issues with the reason Katis of the world,

1182
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: who are kind of sick of the rest of the

1183
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: media as we can tell. Right, So, Matt, is it

1184
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: a bad look for me to say something like this

1185
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: and feel free to come after me? But like the

1186
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: entire team is working toward one goal, winning a championship.

1187
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: That's what you're here for, to win a title, right,

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01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you're just playing basketball for

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: fun and making a lot of money. When Kyrie has

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01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: all this other stuff going on, is his top goal

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01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: to win a championship or is it not? I think

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01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: he needs to be babysat a little because he's had

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: a history going back to Boston of being maybe a

1194
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: little despondent, maybe a little checked out for a day

1195
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: another day. Kind of rankled some teammates there here in Brooklyn.

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: That was kind of a deal. Why why why he

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01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: came that there was a franchise that was ready for

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: him or thought they were ready for him, and he

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01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: brought Kadi along with him, and I think they're still adjusting.

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01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: Steve Nash was brought in to be kind of the

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01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: opposite of Kenny Atkinson, who k D and Kyrie helped

1202
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: force out. Steve nash is philosophy this year, and he

1203
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: didn't never let this cat out of the bag himself

1204
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: was quote protect the group, and that means insulate Kyrie

1205
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: from the media, allow him to burn stage on the

1206
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: court and don't say anything out loud about it, allow

1207
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: him to go, encourage him to go on fraternity leave,

1208
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: and don't think twice when he comes back and balls out.

1209
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: I think next year, if this dynasty is really going

1210
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: to take off in the way that Kyrie was envisioning

1211
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: two years back when I started embedding with this team,

1212
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: He's got a lock in on the court, stay healthy

1213
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: with the two other guys in the Big three, and really,

1214
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, start to put that legacy on the court,

1215
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: maybe a little ahead or at least even with his

1216
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: off the court values and appreciation. We're talking Matt Sullivan,

1217
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: author of the book Can't Knock the Hustle Now. Matt

1218
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: explained to the audience what embedded with the Nets means

1219
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: um First of all, like, uh, was Nashal on board

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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: with this book? Was? Um? Was Katie Kyrie? Or did

1221
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: they did you just being around the team, did they

1222
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: start to kind of, you know, be wary of you

1223
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: and what you were doing. So beginning with the quote

1224
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: unquote clean sweep, when Katie and Kyrie announced their intentions

1225
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: to come to Brooklyn, even though as we know, it's hampering,

1226
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: being kind of low key taking advantage of they've been

1227
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: planning that since well before it had previously been reported

1228
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: until my book. And then I just kind of got

1229
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: a press pass and that's said here, you know, earned

1230
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: their trust, will treat you like any other beat reporter.

1231
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: And I knocked down the door and I burst it

1232
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: wide open because I'm not any other beat reporter. And

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: I was talking to these guys before the protest last

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01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: summer about police killing, which I have, you know, experience

1235
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: with as a as a non sports journalist. And we

1236
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: started talking about activism, Kaepernick, about the influence of social media,

1237
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: and I think this is what you know got me

1238
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: invited to k D's house and and got it got

1239
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: me in the d M S with Kyrie. He sent

1240
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: me sixty seven page Supreme Court decisions on indigenous land rights.

1241
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm out there protesting in the streets of Brooklyn with

1242
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: these guys. I'm on zoom with them doing meditation during

1243
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: the pandemic, And so I think the normal NBA reporting

1244
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic actually has been relegated to zoom

1245
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: calls that are almost like press conference propaganda, whereas I'm

1246
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: texting with these guys and get the real talk from

1247
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: sources who I've developed over two years. And now the

1248
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: real truth is coming up. So now that it's coming out,

1249
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: how is Kadi and Kyrie handling it? Have you heard

1250
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: from them or their people? Are they unhappy with you?

1251
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: Are they not saying anything or has there been any

1252
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: feedback yet? Oh? Look, Katie tweeted about that passage in

1253
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: the book. I was mentioning about Seive Kirk kind of

1254
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: taking him out for a drink and and Katie still

1255
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: looking at his phone, And Katie tweeted about this passage,

1256
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: not to repute it or anything, because I got both

1257
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: sides of the conversation and talked to foreigner people, but

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Speaker 1: he said that players interacting with fans should be encouraged,

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: and the fact that Kevin was always on time to

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01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: work every day and gave it his all. Should be

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01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: more interesting than what he does on Twitter, and he's right,

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: it's it should be. But the modern NBA, as we know,

1263
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: is about personality. It's about how fame reflects our culture,

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01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: and so of course what Katie does on Twitter is interesting.

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01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: It's that elusive quote authenticity that we you know, we

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: hear so much about con famous people. And I think

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01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: he's putting it in the feeds of like a twenty

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: four year old teacher in Kentucky who Kadi went after

1269
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 1: wants it and who I interviewed, and this guy's like, well,

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01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: I get that Twitter fight changed my life, but doesn't

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01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant have something better to do with his time? Yeah?

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, like I had gone on

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: FS one, I think um and I whenever they beat

1274
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: they crushed the calves the first time, and I said

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01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 1: that Kevin Durant was the greatest player in the NBA.

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01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: He had passed Lebron is the best. He got the torch.

1277
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because you know, you tag Kevin

1278
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Durant and this stuff, thinking nothing and then he sends

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: a d m instantly and he's open to d m

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: NG about like he's really online all the time, but

1281
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: he also can't seem to get over it, right, I mean,

1282
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: you can't get enough of this idea that he was

1283
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: basically jealous of Step in the bay. I think another

1284
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: book puts this out there a couple of years back.

1285
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: And even though my book doesn't waste a lot of

1286
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: time going back over exits and entrances that have been

1287
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: like covered at nauseum, I did pull up on this

1288
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: Step thing, just trying to put it to rest. And

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: I spoke with Katie's longtime coach, a mentor as godfather,

1290
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: this kind of o G named Stink Stink Brown, who

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01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: stays in Kevin's ear, and according to this concert on,

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: Durant left the Warriors for three reasons. One, KD felt

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01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: that Steve Kirk couldn't hold players like Draymond accountable to

1294
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: death got all of the love. And three, to quote

1295
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: Stink Kevin said, they're not developing, They're not getting any better.

1296
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: So Katie is out here on this whole Friday night

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: Twitter rant, this Twitter live chat with Golden State fans,

1298
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: and he still refuses to answering this lingering question about

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: his vibe with all this death adoration and that kind

1300
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: of lead up to the breakup of the Warriors super team.

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: He just keeps blaming the media, going after that old

1302
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: book like he's gone after mine. But he refuses to

1303
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: dispute my reporting. Floor interested in polishing his legacy than

1304
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: the unvarnister. So, Matt, you say he that he was

1305
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: upset that Kurd did not hold people accountable? What does

1306
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: that mean? Can you define accountable? Was that on the court,

1307
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: off the court practice habits. It's a kind of mysterious

1308
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: thing and hard to put your finger on. This championship mentality.

1309
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: And Katie got a lot of things from the Warriors,

1310
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, that look on the court where they're all

1311
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: just in each other's head. And I think Steve behind

1312
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: closed doors is is harsher than you'd realize. But Draymond

1313
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: was a favorite of his, and I think, you know,

1314
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of the lip reading between Draymond

1315
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: and and k D on the court, and they're still friends.

1316
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: They practiced in something crappy Jim in l A, you know,

1317
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: towards the tail end of the pandemic, they had beef.

1318
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: They can get over it because the basketball brotherhood is real.

1319
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: But I think the Steve Curve Kevin Durant partnership didn't

1320
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: work out so well. And at the same time, he

1321
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: took that championship mentality to Brooklyn. He thought he could

1322
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: forge it with Kyrie also want a title so they

1323
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: could get back to what they call the mountain top.

1324
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,799
Speaker 1: But they saw a coach in Kenny Atkinson who's actually

1325
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: weirdly now back with her as an assistant, and he

1326
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: didn't have that, and so they broke it down. They said,

1327
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: you don't have the practice habits, you don't have the

1328
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: experience as a former player. And I think Katie really

1329
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: values that. And it's that search back to the mountaintop

1330
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: that's that's been elusive, and I think he's starting to

1331
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: find a bit of a GPS in that year. This

1332
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: is great stuff, Matt. Let me wrap up with this.

1333
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like Draymond is the favorite of

1334
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, which may have irked Katie. Do you believe

1335
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: Draymond is the favorite of Kerr? And again this is

1336
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: not really your book territory, but just you said it.

1337
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: It's interesting, is that because Steve Kerr kind of made

1338
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: Draymond green. Like Steve Kerr arrived and the Flash Brothers

1339
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: were incredible, um, but Draymond Green was kind of the

1340
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: missing link. That's the only real thing that Steve Kerr

1341
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: changed outside. You know. I'm sure there was some stuff

1342
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but he made Draymond Green a superstar, right.

1343
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: I think what we see these days in the power

1344
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: dynamic shifting really since the decision, which I tracked in

1345
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: my book ten years since then, is the coach player

1346
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: dynamic has completely flipped to the point where when superstars

1347
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: come in, you kind of just gotta lean back and

1348
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: let them do their thing, protect the group, right. And

1349
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: so what even the really experienced title winning coach can

1350
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 1: do these days is mold the other guys, the non Lebrons,

1351
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: the non kds. And I think when my books subtitles

1352
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: about the superstars of tomorrow, I think that's what you

1353
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: need to mold the championship team. Is the guy behind

1354
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: the guy, so that the honestes of the world aren't

1355
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: the only player, right, so that you can mold a

1356
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: pain or even a d book, and so those guys

1357
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: can be on the come up. And that's what good

1358
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: coaching is all about, even though superstars still the league. Yeah, alright,

1359
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: his name is Matt Sullivan. The book is Can't Knock

1360
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: the Hustle. You can follow him getting in Twitter beefs

1361
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 1: with a lot of Warriors fans at Soul s U L. L. Duggery.

1362
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: Hey Matt, congratsman, This book sounds explosive. Well done, man,

1363
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,799
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man. Alright, that was Matt Sullivan. It sounds spicy.

1364
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: You know. I'm all about the Kyrie k d NBA drama.

1365
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Love it all right. Coming up next year on Fox

1366
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Who's the worst quarterback in the a f

1367
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: C North? Oh, a surprise football question a f C North,

1368
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: think about it. And while you think about it, we're

1369
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna go to Isaac Lohan Cron for this training and sports.

1370
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: Speaking of surprises, Jason, we actually have a little surprise

1371
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: for you. We have the audio of Kevin Durant from

1372
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: last night that you and Matt were just talking about.

1373
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: That is coming up in just moments. But first round

1374
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: three of the British Open in full swing. Louis oustas

1375
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: and still has the lead at eleven underpar. Overall. Here's

1376
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: part of his first three holes, but Jordan's speed has

1377
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: now taken over second place because he's birdied two of

1378
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: his first four holes, so we has just one shot

1379
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: back of us tis In. Colin Morikawa, who began the

1380
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: day in second place, has bogeyed one of his first

1381
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: three holes, so he has dropped three shots back at

1382
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: eight under par overall. Dustin Johnson part four of his

1383
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: first five holes but also has a bogey, so he

1384
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: has now dropped five shots off the lead and round

1385
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: three of the British Open. Olympic organizers confirmed today that

1386
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: a person staying in the Olympic village in Tokyo has

1387
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: tested positive for the coronavirus. The person not an athlete,

1388
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: identified only as games concerned personnel coming from outside of Japan, Now, Jason.

1389
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: Last night, as you and Matt were talking about, Kevin

1390
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: Durant hosted an impromptu half hour audio chat on a

1391
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: Twitter platform called Spaces with Random Fans, and it largely

1392
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: centered around Durant trying to refute all the controversy surrounding

1393
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: his time as a Golden State Warrior and its subsequent departure.

1394
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: So listen to this exchange from last night's audio chat,

1395
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: and keep in mind Durant is not speaking with a

1396
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: reporter or a media member here, but rather just one

1397
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: of the fans who was participating listen then just cleared

1398
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: up for us, Like what what? Why do I have

1399
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: to clear up from? Well, then just tell us what

1400
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: was really? Don't got your par up? Just tell me

1401
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: Why do I got to tell y'all what was really?

1402
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: Why do you feel obligated to an explanation for me

1403
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: about what I do in free agents? Because that's what

1404
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: started the whole conversation. That's why people are curious. But

1405
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: what I'm just asking, why are you so curious? And

1406
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: feel like I have to explain myself to you? Oh,

1407
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to, but it's not gonna curiosity, And

1408
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: so if I don't explain myself, you're gonna listen to eat.

1409
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: This makes no sense to me. And again, just for context,

1410
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: the person who he was in the exchange with was

1411
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: not a medium member, It was not a reporter. It

1412
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: was just a random social media I'm such a big

1413
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Durham fan, but like he's he just doesn't sound

1414
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: very smart saying that he's like why do you care? Why?

1415
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: Like Kevin, I appreciate the fact that he's allowing himself

1416
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 1: to be so real and be accessible to the fans.

1417
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: He's not well he's coming on and just saying nothing.

1418
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: He's talking in circles. Sure, he's accessible in a way

1419
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: that I don't think no other athlete hosts a random

1420
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: chat to that extent, which I appreciate, But at the

1421
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: same time I agree it is sad in a way

1422
01:14:51,080 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 1: that look someone who's mind bogglingly wealthy, internationally famous. Literally,

1423
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: this is not an exaggeration. He could be driving a

1424
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: Ferrari or Lamborghini. He could be eating lobster or anything

1425
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: he wants. He could be on vacation anywhere in the

1426
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: world he wants by private jet. But instead, and this

1427
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: is not an exaggeration, instead of doing any of that,

1428
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: he's hosting a random audio chat with people in their

1429
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: parents basements on social media. That part, to me is

1430
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: sad when he can be doing other things because of

1431
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: the resources he has at his disposal that could be

1432
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot more fulfilling. Poor Katie. We may have to

1433
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: do a segment on this lay in the final hour.

1434
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, Isaac. All right, coming up next to your

1435
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, who is the worst quarterback in

1436
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: the a f C North. I want you to think

1437
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: about it. You've had some time, UM, I will give

1438
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: you So the choices in case you forgot who the

1439
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: heck is in the a f C North, your choices

1440
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: are number one Ben Roethlisberger two super Bowls, Number two

1441
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, m v P. Joe Burrow played in nine

1442
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: NFL games, Baker Mayfield one playoff victory. I'll ask it again,

1443
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: who is the worst quarterback heading into the season in

1444
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: the a f C North. The answer coming up right

1445
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: after the break? Who are you? Discover? Matches all the

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Speaker 1: cash back you earn on your credit card at the

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Speaker 1: end of your first year. It's amazing because discovers accepted

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Speaker 1: at places in the US that take credit cards. Learn

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Speaker 1: more at discover dot com slash he has Nelson Report

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Speaker 1: limitations apply for really good stuff there from Matt Sullivan,

1451
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: super super interesting book. You guys know. Listen, I beat

1452
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: up on Kyrie Irving a lot, I defend Kevin Durant

1453
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot. And uh it sounds like after I read

1454
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: that book I might flip flop on those um All right,

1455
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: So I asked the question, who's the worst quarterback in

1456
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: the a f C North heading into this season? And

1457
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: without question, it cannot be Lamar Jackson. He's definitely not

1458
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: the worst. He is not the worst quarterback. Yes, he's

1459
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: only one and three in the playoffs, but he's won

1460
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: the m v P. And if you're saying, you know,

1461
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: you get to pick a starting quarterback from this division,

1462
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: might be Lamar, you know, it could also be Joe Burrow.

1463
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: I know he's only played nine games. Don't give me

1464
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: quarterback record. It's one of the dumbest stats in the NFL.

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow two and seven, but thirteen touchdowns, five picks,

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: and he was in every game except the Ravens games.

1467
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: Last year. Joe Burrow looked great and that was with

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01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: no A. J. Green right, Tyler Boyd was basically is

1469
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: like number one option. That Bengals team is going to

1470
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: be much improved. I know the coach is a question,

1471
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: the defense stinks, but Joe Burrow is not the not

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the division. And Folks, I don't

1473
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: think you can say with Baker Mayfield last year, getting

1474
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski getting into the playoffs, getting a playoff win.

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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Baker really unlie the genius of that offense.

1476
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: He can't be the worst quarterback heading into next year

1477
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: in the division. I think it has to be Ben Roethlisberger.

1478
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,839
Speaker 1: Look at the trend lines. Lamar trending up, Joe Burrow

1479
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: trending up, Baker Mayfield trending up. Final ten games last year.

1480
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Finals seven games last year. Ben Roethlisberger ten picks.

1481
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: I know they were undefeated midway through the season. He's

1482
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: got the elbow surgery. He got a reduced contract for

1483
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: this season, he had to take less money. He's thirty six,

1484
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: He's immobile. Every other quarterback in this division can can

1485
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: beat you with the with the legs. I don't know,

1486
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: is that too out of a take. Iowa Sam that

1487
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is the worst quarterback in the a f

1488
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: C North heading in the next season. I would just

1489
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: have to say, by default it's Joe Burrow, just because

1490
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the tape yet. Well, but that's looking

1491
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: at what he's done and in the NFL, yes, he

1492
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: has not done much too in seven record thirteen picks

1493
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: of interceptions. But we're looking forward, we're not looking past.

1494
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: It's like when the Lakers paid Kobe Bryant that insane contract,

1495
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: and it was basically like, hey, thank you for your service.

1496
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: We're giving you a ton of money and we're gonna

1497
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 1: be mired in the basement for the next five years. No,

1498
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: I want to look forward and if you can pick

1499
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: your quarterback in this division to quarterback of team this year,

1500
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: I was Sam, who are you taking from that division?

1501
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: Ranked them one through four? Who you're taking? Yes, I

1502
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,879
Speaker 1: think it has to go Lamar Jackson one. I wouldn't

1503
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: put Bennett in last because like that offense, it wasn't

1504
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: all his fault that they kind of ran out of gas.

1505
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: Like well, they also had no offensive line. The Browns

1506
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: have one of the best offensive lines in the league.

1507
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow's offen thought I was terrible, and Joe

1508
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: Burrow made still made plays. I don't think Ben can

1509
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: make plays unless it's perfectly set up. Member. They had

1510
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: to have him unload the ball as fast as possible,

1511
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: and that's not his style. He would wait throw it

1512
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: down field. He you know, he needed some protection to

1513
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: get a big you know, a big game downfield. You

1514
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: just look back at that Brown's playoff game at home

1515
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: four picks. He was not good, guys, he just wasn't good.

1516
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: Second half of the season very ominous. Now, I know

1517
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: that historically, teams that do well in the second half

1518
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: don't automatically do well the next year. But you can

1519
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: look at how Ben performed and it was just ghastly.

1520
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: And we're talking about with one of the best receiving

1521
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: court groups in the league, certainly like a top ted unit,

1522
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: maybe a top five unit. But I don't like what

1523
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: I saw from Ben. He's thirty six. I don't know

1524
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: what the secession plan is for him, Folks. I'm not

1525
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: bashing Ben Roethins. He's had a great career as a

1526
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame first ballot guy, no doubt. But heading

1527
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: in the next season, he's the last quarterback I won

1528
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: from next vision. And that's not a knock because again,

1529
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: you've got an m v P. Baker Mayfield had coming

1530
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: off his best season, and I like to cut a

1531
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows jib. I'm sorry, And they added draft. They

1532
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: got Jamre Chase in the draft, right the l s UK.

1533
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm almost certain. Yeah, So now you've got a great

1534
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: receiving corps, you got a solid running back. The offensive

1535
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: line is not great, but Joe burrows talent is often charts. Guys,

1536
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to get excited for football. I dug dug

1537
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: in deep this week. You know, because it's like the

1538
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: slowest week of the summer with MLB All Star Game.

1539
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: We didn't even get to Atani. We haven't even covered

1540
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: Space Jam. We got some NFL COVID vaccination news. I

1541
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: tried not to go into COVID, but I think we

1542
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: could have to touch on it. Um. So, final hour

1543
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: of my final Saturday radio show. I know you guys

1544
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: are excited. We have a great guest coming up, uh

1545
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: to talk about the Richard Sherman ugliness. Um. We got

1546
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: NBA Finals Game five, best bets coming up, Tom Brady,

1547
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: a lot of final stuff. Final hour coming up. Keep

1548
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: it locked here on Fox Sports Radio. We're having fun

1549
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,759
Speaker 1: baby high noon on the East Coast. Ladies and gentlemen,

1550
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: nine am out here in l A. It's your boy,

1551
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre, Fox Sports Radio. Final hour of my final

1552
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,879
Speaker 1: Saturday show here on Fox Sports Radio. Kind of exciting.

1553
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hadn't thought it would be a

1554
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: big deal. You know, when I thought, Okay, I think

1555
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: it's time to pull the plug. But then I was

1556
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 1: Sam was just in here commiserating because we've been together

1557
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: here for several years now on the Saturday show. And again,

1558
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, I think I talked about this on Straight

1559
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: Fire obviously, you know, if you're on iTunes, subscribe to

1560
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: that um. But like, you know, covid really did a

1561
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: lot of interesting things in the last year because it

1562
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: made you, you know, you're sticking. You're sticking around your

1563
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: house right uh, around your kids doing homeschool, and you're

1564
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: starting to realize, like, oh, this is pretty cool. I'm

1565
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: really watching my kids grow. Like I was just sitting

1566
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 1: there one day and my kids starts his little violin

1567
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: zoom and he you know, I'm not instrumental at all.

1568
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: My wife as in a band, like you know, in

1569
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: in middle school or whatever, maybe high school, and like

1570
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: just watching your kid play an instrument like this is

1571
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I get to watch my kid nice And

1572
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: I started thinking more and more, you know, like it's

1573
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: good that I'm around them a lot, but weekends I'm

1574
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: not as available because you know, Friday night you gotta

1575
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: go to bed early, prep for the show, get guests,

1576
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: and Saturday gotta wake up at six. You're never there

1577
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,839
Speaker 1: when they wake up Saturday morning. It's been six years, uh,

1578
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: one year in Pennsylvania and then now five out here

1579
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: since we moved out to l A in and I

1580
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: just felt like, all right, I got a new deal.

1581
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: You know, at FS one, I got a new contract,

1582
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: which is always exciting. This is a tough climate. Um,

1583
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: and I do the podcast straight Fire, so I'm always

1584
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: adding jobs. Is the first time in a while I've

1585
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: I've willingly given up something. Um, And I've talked about

1586
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: this guy's being val You bole to the company like,

1587
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: let's say you're trying to make an NFL team and

1588
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: all you are your entire life, you've only played center, okay,

1589
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: and they need you to fill in a guard. But

1590
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: you never played garden high school, you never played garden college,

1591
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: you never played tackle. All you know is center. How

1592
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: valuable are you if all you can do is play

1593
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: one position? And so my goal since I got to

1594
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: F one is I'm gonna do everything. And I went

1595
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: there and I'm pretty sure it was you know, I

1596
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: got there in June of and when fall came around,

1597
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, we should do like gambling

1598
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: videos for NFL and college football, and they were like, yeah,

1599
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: let's do that, and so we started doing them. And

1600
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: of course they look at the numbers and they're like,

1601
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: holy cow, there's a massive market here. Yeah, there's TV, yeah,

1602
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: there's radio, but digitally we've got something. And so every

1603
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,839
Speaker 1: year I made myself the gambling. I have Fox Sports

1604
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: with NFL and college football picks and summer gears are

1605
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: better than others. But we kept it going. And then

1606
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, let's do it for the NFL playoffs

1607
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: and should we do it for the NBA. Yeah, let's

1608
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: do that, And I'm making myself valuable. I came out here,

1609
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: I did the Saturday radio so I said, guys, anytime

1610
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: you need somebody to fill in, I can do a

1611
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: damn page and filling. I could fill in for Coward,

1612
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: I could fill in for gottlieb Odd couple. So then

1613
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: I became a backup guy for radio. You need me

1614
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: anytime I'm available. And then you know, I was on

1615
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: a show at FS one and then obviously other guys

1616
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: are gonna go on vacations. They didn't have the deepest bench.

1617
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: I said, I know, you guys usually have a fill

1618
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: in host that is a woman who is kind of

1619
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: you know, plays the mediator if you will. What have

1620
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: you guys considered maybe trying a host two also has

1621
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: opinions and can banter back and challenge and push back hard.

1622
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: It's different. No other shows really doing that. Every show

1623
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: had a woman kind of as a host, and they're like, oh,

1624
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: we'll try that something they tried me on Undisputed. Now

1625
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: anytime skipp and shedit or out, I'm you know, filling

1626
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: in with Broussard and LaVar Arrington and whoever else is

1627
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: on the show. And it's like, everywhere you go, you

1628
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: should try to make yourself as valuable as possible so

1629
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: that when it's time for your contract, they're not like, oh,

1630
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: this guy does this. They're like, well, we can use

1631
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: him here and here and here, and he does this,

1632
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you become kind of an

1633
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: indispensable And I'm not saying I'm indispensable. Obviously everybody's dispensable.

1634
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. But you want to

1635
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: make yourself as indispensable as possible. And I kind of

1636
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: think I've done that in my career. Um And, and

1637
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: I do love radio. It's a lot of fun. I

1638
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: can confidently tell you nobody's ever really said, hey, j

1639
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: you can or can't do that. Um. I kind of

1640
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: feel mostly the same way about the podcast, although the

1641
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: podcast is, you know, a little bit easier as I

1642
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: get to do it from home and it's shorter than

1643
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: a three hour radio show. But what I didn't notice

1644
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: once I started the five day a week podcast, it's like, man,

1645
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm ready to rock when it comes to Saturday. Like

1646
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't need to map out as much of the

1647
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: show because I just did five days with a podcast.

1648
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: Now on an occasion where there was something that popped

1649
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: on Friday night that made it even more fun because

1650
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: we're the first to chime in when big news broke

1651
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning, Boom, We're there, We're on it.

1652
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: And I will thank the powers that be here at

1653
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio for um giving. You know, I think

1654
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I lobbied for the early time slot so that I

1655
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: could have my week, my Saturday still wide open. Um.

1656
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: You know, go to the beach, Weather's great, have my

1657
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: whole day. Um. Now. Of course, the only drawback is

1658
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired and I'm probably gonna need a

1659
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: nap later today, which is awesome. But you know what,

1660
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: A who's complaining? Uh certainly not me. I hope it

1661
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like I'm complaining. And I love working with

1662
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: the team here, Isaac. What are the best pros in

1663
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: the business. I low, as they call him. I mean,

1664
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: he's just money. I could go to Isaac now for

1665
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: a strong Otani take and you'll have one. Um. I

1666
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: thought one of our one of my favorite moments recently

1667
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: was when Marv Albert announced he was out and we

1668
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: just start playing Marv Albert clips from NBA playoff memories.

1669
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, Marv Albert basically the soundtrack of my nb

1670
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: A youth. And that was great, Jason, because I personally

1671
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: appreciate this that you give us the freedom to contribute

1672
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,520
Speaker 1: in our own ways. Iowa, Sam and and everybody else included.

1673
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm glad that you brought up that

1674
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: particular day because we were able to capture that in

1675
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: real time. And even I had forgotten just how wide

1676
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,879
Speaker 1: of a swath of sports history that Marv Albert provided

1677
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: the soundtrack to in the NBA literally dating back to

1678
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, and even in other sports like

1679
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: calling the David Tyree catch and the Super Bowl on radio. Um,

1680
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, Albert's gone, and they're they're doing a lot

1681
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: of changes in the NBA. I don't know where are

1682
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: you on Breen and Van Gundy, Like I liked them Breen,

1683
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: Van Gundi and Mark Jackson, but it's not like I mean,

1684
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: other than Mike Breen's bang, you know, kind of give

1685
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: or take. Or maybe it's just that the finals aren't

1686
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: that exciting this year. I don't know. I think that

1687
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: plays into it. I'm a huge, huge Mike Breen fan,

1688
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: and I think he has grown into the role because

1689
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: if you go back, you had the reign of Marv Albert,

1690
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: but then when NBC lost the contract, Marv Albert was

1691
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: out of the pictures. So the first guy who succeeded

1692
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: Marv Albert, and you want to talk about tough shoes

1693
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: to fill, was Brad Nessler, right, I like him, Yeah,

1694
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was Brad Nessler, phenomenal on football, all

1695
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: the lead voice on the SEC on CBS, but it

1696
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly the right fit. So I think he only

1697
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: did one year and then David Stern and he was

1698
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: partly responsible for this. Al Michaels was brought in for

1699
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: a couple of years and al Michaels grew to love

1700
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: doing the NBA, but then he went to NBC. When

1701
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: NBC got Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football left

1702
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: ABC and went to ESPN, and there was a big

1703
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,879
Speaker 1: to do about all of that. So when Al Michael's

1704
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: left the there was a big void there and Mike

1705
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: Breen was brought in to fill the void. And it

1706
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly a marquee addition to begin with, but starting

1707
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, he made that opportunity his own.

1708
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: And now Mike Green has done the NBA Finals on

1709
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Network TV more than anybody else, and he's grown into

1710
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: the job. And uh, let's put it this way. There

1711
01:30:56,720 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: are a lot of opinions out there about uh Van

1712
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Gundi and Mark Jackson, both positive and negative. But I

1713
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: will say this, having a three person booth on basketball

1714
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: is next to him possible. But I give credit to

1715
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Mike Green for pulling that off. Yeah, I'm curious where

1716
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: you This guy is really quickly faded away. But I

1717
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: will say maybe it has to do with what when

1718
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: I started listening to him. But one of the most

1719
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: underrated guys, I'll say in sports announcing evert for me

1720
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: is got by the name of Ron Franklin. He would

1721
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: call college football Saturday nights. I know why, I Alwa

1722
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Sam knows him college football Saturday nights in like the

1723
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: nineties and two thousand's and if he was just perfect

1724
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Now, I did watch a lot of

1725
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: college football when I was in college, obviously, um, and

1726
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I just love the cadence

1727
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: that he had. What happened to Ron Franklin? Is he

1728
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's passed away. I don't know. But

1729
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: are you a huge fan of his eyes? Well? He

1730
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: had a very very distinctive voice. It was a very

1731
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 1: Southern tinged voice. Um, what happened to him? There were

1732
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: a couple of incidents with his coworkers, uh, in which

1733
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: he sort of in one case was actually on the

1734
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: air when he addressed a couple of female sideline reporters

1735
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: in rather disparaging I would say, did you get patriots?

1736
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: It didn't have anything to do with sexual harassment. It

1737
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: was that he addressed two separate, highly respected female sideline reporters,

1738
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,520
Speaker 1: including ones on the air, and what I would characterize

1739
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: as disrespectful, patronizing terms, and that brought about his departure

1740
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 1: from the scene. I want to say it was about

1741
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: a decade to fifteen years ago. Yeah, oh wow, you're right. Now.

1742
01:32:55,200 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 1: He was fired from after making sexist comment, Oh that stinks. Oh,

1743
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 1: but he did bring a wrongful termination suit against ESPN

1744
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: and it was settled out of court. Interesting, Oh he's

1745
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: a yeah, he's a guy from Jackson, Mississippi. And I

1746
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just listen Verne Lunquist. Obviously it was

1747
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: incredible college basketball sec on CBS. But I really think

1748
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Ron Franklin's right there with him, And of course Musburger

1749
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: is maybe the gold standard, right if you if you

1750
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: who's on your Mount Rushmore? Isaac of sports announcers? And

1751
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say in the night and up because

1752
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back into the seventies and

1753
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: a few people listening to this are probably in deep

1754
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: with the seventies announcers, But you can go any sport

1755
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: who's your Mount Rushmore? Of announced? Boy, it was. It

1756
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: was a golden era and obviously at the top you're

1757
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna put Vince Scully, but his last National broadcast, unfortunately

1758
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: was way back in seven. But aside from that, if

1759
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about National, you can't go wrong with Al Michael's,

1760
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: Jim Nance Uh, Bob Costas Uh. That was really truly

1761
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: the golden age, and of course, uh, you know, Fox's

1762
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: own Joe Buck. So we're at some are all in Madden?

1763
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, Pat Summer on John Madden the soundtrack

1764
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: of Growing Up on on Sunday Afternoons. Absolutely, it's really

1765
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: tough that maybe that's like a good uh that could

1766
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: be a good segment, final final segment of the show.

1767
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I would have to give it some more thought because

1768
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: if only picking four, it's super challenging because I like

1769
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: Ron Franklin a lot. He's not sniffinite. Um this veron

1770
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: lunk was gonna look maybe, but do you can you

1771
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: split up somewhere all at Madden because some are all

1772
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: like there was nobody better at just straight being the

1773
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: color the announcer. That's a great point because back in

1774
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: nine two, believe it or not, CBS held an on

1775
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: air audition, as it were, as to who was going

1776
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: to team with John Madden. It was either going to

1777
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: be summer All or the aforementioned Vince Scully. So Vince

1778
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Scully did four games with Madden, Pat summer All did

1779
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: another four games Madden, and then CBS executives had to

1780
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: make the decision. The president of CBS at the time

1781
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: was a big fan of Scully because he felt Scully

1782
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: was the superior broadcaster, but everyone else voted for sum

1783
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: are All, saying that summer All was the better partner

1784
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: for Madden, even though Scully was technically the superior announcer.

1785
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: And that's how we got sum are All and Madden.

1786
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: It was either going to be that or Vince Scully

1787
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: and Madden costUS Madden al Michaels for the Olympics. Ye oh,

1788
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 1: here's here's another quick story about Costas. So, when Madden

1789
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: was first going into broadcasting with CBS, CBS said we're

1790
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 1: gonna have you do a practice game in the l

1791
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: A Coliseum. You'll be up there. It's gonna be on tape,

1792
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: not on the air. We've got this young kid who

1793
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: does some part time stuff for us to to partner

1794
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: with you. That was Bob Costas. Costas, Uh yeah, Costas big.

1795
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm a big costUS guy. Musburger announcing like I don't

1796
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 1: know how many how the audience feels about talking about announcers,

1797
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: but for me, it's it's always fun. I just like

1798
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 1: now that The weird part now is I don't listen

1799
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 1: to the announcers as closely, Like you know, I got

1800
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: the kids. Um, maybe have something else going on while

1801
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: watching these games. Now Sunday NFL, you've got multiple games on.

1802
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: You're not listening to the announcers. You know, by the way,

1803
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: you've had costs on the show. Happened? We have had costs, Yes,

1804
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: I know him. Uh. I'll tell a funny cost of

1805
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: story after the break, but we will come back. Um. Actually,

1806
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: we got a guest coming up to talk about Richard

1807
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 1: Sherman's rough stuff. But just remind me, um, we will

1808
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: will I'll tell a funny cost of story, um that

1809
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: that happened within the last year. And also, somebody just

1810
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: tweeted at me, what about Keith Jackson. Oh gosh, nobody

1811
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: better on college football than Keith Jackson. It was legendary.

1812
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: But we'll talk about all that coming up here next

1813
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Back here on Fox Sports Radio,

1814
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 1: it's me Jason McIntyre. Got a good guest coming up now.

1815
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys all the Richard Sherman situation really ugly.

1816
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: And I've you know, I've been consistent on this since

1817
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: I started the show six years ago. I don't love

1818
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: diving into some of these grizzly um legal topics without

1819
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: knowing all the information. So that's why we're bringing a

1820
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: great guest to help decipher the madness. Let's bring an

1821
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: Amy Dash, Fox Sports radio legal analyst. She's at Amy

1822
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Dash TV. Amy Good morning. How are you. Oh, I'm

1823
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: doing great. How are you? Yeah? I'm all right. You know,

1824
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: this Richard Sherman topics scares me a little bit because

1825
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 1: it's almost like we're getting um little portions of information

1826
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 1: about what went down at the I guess it's his

1827
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: in law's house. Um, you know, you see a lot

1828
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 1: of conflicting reports. I don't know if the media fully

1829
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 1: knows everything. I mean, you know, Richard Sherman's wife. Some

1830
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 1: people are calling the ex wife and she's tweeting at them. Listen,

1831
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: we're still married. You know, Like, I don't know, maybe

1832
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: how do you handle all this stuff? When when when

1833
01:37:58,240 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 1: a when a high profile guy like Sherman gets a

1834
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: toon Well, first of all, I there were some nine

1835
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: on one calls and there was some video leaked and

1836
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: then the police made a statement. So I really just

1837
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 1: based the information that I sort of pieced together like

1838
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: a puzzle from those types of air viable sources. If

1839
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: I can hear exactly what's going on if I can

1840
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: read it from the authorities, and then I watched the

1841
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 1: hearing and they recitate the facts also during the actual

1842
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: court hearing. So that's sort of how I put together

1843
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: what happened. So what are we supposed to make of

1844
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 1: Richard Truman? By all accounts, it just sounds like he's

1845
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: unraveling and in a bad place. But then once you

1846
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: saw that video of him trying to break the door down,

1847
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: you're like, ye, that is not good. What's you what's

1848
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: your read? Is a legal analyst? Well, what I learned

1849
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: is that back I believe in February, so it was

1850
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: months ago, there was actually a court order that his

1851
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 1: guns be taken away because he was deemed an extreme

1852
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 1: threat to himself or others. So he was prohibited from

1853
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: having firearms. And I think that that may have saved

1854
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: piece some people's lives with this incident, because if he

1855
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: had had guns on him. Um. And by the way,

1856
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: we know that the father in law when he was

1857
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: trying to get in and trying to, you know, bang

1858
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 1: the door down, the father in law was armed with

1859
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: a gun and pepper spray is what I'm hearing from reports. So, um,

1860
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 1: thank god the father in law wasn't drunk. Thank god

1861
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: he didn't bring a gun with him, because what could

1862
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 1: have happened is if he had gotten inside, who knows,

1863
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: maybe the father in law would have drawn the gun

1864
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: just to protect himself. This is the problem with with

1865
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 1: burglaries or any type of felony. If somebody gets killed

1866
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,919
Speaker 1: in the commission of a felony, even if it's an accident,

1867
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: that could be life in prison without parole for the

1868
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: person who is the aggressor. So even if sherman didn't

1869
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: bring the gun and he was able to get through

1870
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: the door, first of all, the second he gets through

1871
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: the door, that's a burglary. You need unlawful entry. Thank

1872
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: god he didn't get through the door, because he would

1873
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: have been charged with a serious burglary felony. And then

1874
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: if she got in and somebody got killed, even or hurt,

1875
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: even accidentally, he'd be facing some really then its first degree,

1876
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: and he'd be facing some really really serious charges. So

1877
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: you can't mess around with that kind of stuff. There's

1878
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,440
Speaker 1: a lot of rules in different states called felony murder rules.

1879
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 1: It's really interesting because even if let's say a homeowner

1880
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Speaker 1: and somebody tries to break into someone's home. They don't

1881
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: bring any weapons with them whatsoever. The homeowner comes out

1882
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: with his own gun to try to put to defend himself.

1883
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: And let's say the homeowner accidentally shoots himself, the burglars

1884
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: still charged with his murder in some states. So it's

1885
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: it's very, very tricky, Um, And you really should never

1886
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: commit a felony because anything could go wrong. Now, someone

1887
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,759
Speaker 1: like yourself with the legal backard is in high demand

1888
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, listen, I'm not going to go

1889
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: through the litany of NFL cases right now, the Frank

1890
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Clark one. There's the Andy Reid's son who was on

1891
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 1: the chief staff, and I mean that story is just awful,

1892
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: but awful, you know. I don't know, Amy, are we seeing?

1893
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even going to touch the Dodgers

1894
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: picture bower, which is really really an ugly case. I mean, yes,

1895
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: it's good for business for you, But at the same time,

1896
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Amy, how do you personally handle having

1897
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,879
Speaker 1: to to read up on all this really negative stuff.

1898
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. That sounds probably like a weak question,

1899
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: but like mentally, Amy, I mean, usually I'm just here

1900
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: talking sports. I watch sports, I talk about it I

1901
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: have takes. It's fine. I mean, you're reading this court documents. Yeah,

1902
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: but it's it's so much easier for me because I

1903
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 1: started my career as a general assignment reporter. I'm a lawyer,

1904
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: went to law school first, but then I went into

1905
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 1: general assignment, and then I became a national crime reporter,

1906
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,799
Speaker 1: where I was actually going into prison and interviewing people, um,

1907
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: and I was going to the homes of families who

1908
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: had had horrible tragedies, and it became really emotionally heavy

1909
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: for me dealing with these high profile athletes who are

1910
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 1: worth you know, there's still people obviously they're still going

1911
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Speaker 1: through stuffle times, but I think it's a little bit

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01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 1: easier then, you know, dealing with people who have their

1913
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: problems even worse than compounded by not having the financial

1914
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: resources to be able to defend themselves. Richard Sherman's attorney

1915
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: was excellent, and I think he did everything right. At

1916
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 1: the court hearing. Richard Sherman is being remorseful, he's taking

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01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: all the steps necessary um, which looks like he's on

1918
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: track to do some sort of a plea deal and

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01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: he'll probably end up with community service and probation because

1920
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: he's the first time offender, so he's he's really got

1921
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: a leg up versus some cases where I've actually done

1922
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: reports to try to help people who have been wrongfully

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01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 1: convicted or disproportionately punished and not and the end part

1924
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: of that because they didn't have the money to hire

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Speaker 1: a good attorney. M She's all right, we're talking with

1926
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Speaker 1: Amy Dash, Fox Sports Radio legal analysts. Um. Alright, So,

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Speaker 1: and this is again I'm sure people are going to

1928
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: get upset with me for asking this, But Amy, are

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Speaker 1: you of the opinion that Richard Sherman will be playing

1930
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Speaker 1: football at any point this upcoming season? Oh? Absolutely, I

1931
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: think this is going to be resolved very quickly. And UM,

1932
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I think with his situation and with all of the

1933
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 1: situations that I covered with these athletes getting into trouble,

1934
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 1: they're really teachable moments because it helps the public understand

1935
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 1: what the law is and how something that you may

1936
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: not think is you know that bed under the law,

1937
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: or maybe you have ignorance of the law and end

1938
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 1: up getting yourself into trouble. This is just sort of

1939
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: an educational way to say, hey, here's what you shouldn't do,

1940
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 1: here's what the law says. Here's what it means. And

1941
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: so I think with Sherman, this is a perfect example

1942
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: because he was, you know, allegedly drunk, and one would saying, oh, well,

1943
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: this is just a domestic scuffle with the in laws,

1944
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: and and it's not going to result in anything. Meanwhile,

1945
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: he could have under the worst circumstance than facing a

1946
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: Berkeley charge. And now he's facing a whole bunch of misdemeanors. Luckily,

1947
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 1: the misdemeanors so he'll be able to leave them down

1948
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: because of his lack of a criminal history. Someone like

1949
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: Frank Clark is going to have a harder time because

1950
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: he might be facing to felony charges for gun possession

1951
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: in a state. And here's another thing that can learn.

1952
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: The states have different gun laws. He was in a

1953
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 1: state in California where the gun laws are one of

1954
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 1: the strictest in the nations. So assault weapons are completely banned,

1955
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 1: and so they don't really mess around there with that. Yeah,

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01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 1: what he had news is he the one with a

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01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: newsy Yeah. So first yeah, yeah, So it was two

1958
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: cases of assault weapons and then the second one was

1959
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Speaker 1: an easy Oh she's all right. She is Amy Dash.

1960
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: You can find her on Twitter. At Amy Dash TV

1961
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: knows all the legal ins and outs the Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: radio legals. Thanks a lot for the time, Amy, And

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Speaker 1: uh who that Richard Sherman cases? So boy, Amy breaking

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01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 1: it down as well as anybody could. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I would disagree on is I'm not

1966
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: sure he's gonna play football. Like, I don't know who's

1967
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: touching him. I think he's still radioactive, right, I mean, well,

1968
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 1: maybe it's cleared up quickly and he's able to play,

1969
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know where the appetite is,

1970
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Like he seems he needs to get right before he

1971
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: can get on the football field. All right, Uh, coming

1972
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: up next final half hour of the Saturday radio show.

1973
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: Sorry me, but first let's go to Isaac Loewen frown.

1974
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,759
Speaker 1: But what's training in sports? Jason? Real? Exciting third round

1975
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: already at the British Open today, Louis oustis In is

1976
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: back in the lead at twelve under par overall after

1977
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: he just birdied his seventh hole. He had parted the

1978
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:22,600
Speaker 1: first six, but until the birdie he just had on

1979
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the seventh hole, he had temporarily fallen behind American Jordan's Speed,

1980
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: who was having a fantastic third round. Today, he has

1981
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: birdied four of his first eight holes, so it's Louis

1982
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,879
Speaker 1: Oustis in with the lead to twelve under par overall

1983
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: speed just one shot back at eleven under Colin Morikawa,

1984
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: who opened the day and sole possession of second place.

1985
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: He has dropped to four shots back today he has

1986
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: one over through seven. Dustin Johnson today is three over

1987
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: through nine. He has now dropped all the way back

1988
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: to eight shots off the lead in round three of

1989
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 1: the British Open. Olympic organisers confirmed today that a person

1990
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: staying in the Olympic village in Tokyo has tested positive

1991
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: for the coronavirus. The person was not an athlete, identified

1992
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 1: only as games concerned personnel who came from outside of

1993
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: Japan and in case you missed it earlier, will play

1994
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 1: it for you again. Last night, Brooklyn Nuts superstar and

1995
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: noted social media Officionado Kevin Durant hosted and impromptu half

1996
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: hour audio chat with random fans on this Twitter platform

1997
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 1: called spaces. It largely centered around Durant trying to refute

1998
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: all the controversies surrounding his time as a Golden State

1999
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 1: Warrior and a subsequent departure. So Listen to this exchange

2000
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: from last night's audio chat, and keep in mind Durant

2001
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: here is not engaging with a reporter. He's not engaging

2002
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: with any member of the media, but rather just one

2003
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,600
Speaker 1: of the random fans who was participating. Listen, then just

2004
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: cleared up for us, like what what? Why do I

2005
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 1: have to clear up? Front? Faith over? Well, then just

2006
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:04,640
Speaker 1: tell us what was really? Don't got to clear up?

2007
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: Tell us? Why do I got to tell y'all what

2008
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: was real? Why do you feel obligated to an explanation

2009
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: for me about what I do in free agents, because

2010
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 1: that's what started the whole conversation. That's why people are curious.

2011
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: But I'm just asking why are you so curious? And

2012
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: feel like I have to explain myself to you? Oh,

2013
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to, but it's not gonna be curiosity.

2014
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: And so if I don't explain myself, you're gonna listen

2015
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 1: to strongs though this makes no sense to me, That's

2016
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Bough. And by the way, Jason, that

2017
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 1: random fan that you just heard there, he's just been

2018
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:43,440
Speaker 1: hired as a sideline reporter exclusively to deal with Greg Popovich.

2019
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: Look at that's the way I said, so he would.

2020
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: I wrote this down because Kevin Durant basically said, why

2021
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: do you care about fake rumors? The guy goes, well,

2022
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: we want to know what's real. He's like, why do

2023
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: you care? Well, Kevin? Why are you answering questions like

2024
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing there? They are fans, they want

2025
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 1: to know. I mean, if you don't want to tell them,

2026
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: don't go here and engage with these guys. What are

2027
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: you expecting? I mean, what am I missing, Isaac? What

2028
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: is Kevin Durant hoping to get out of it? The

2029
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: issue here is what is Kevin Durant missing because he

2030
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: has nothing to get out of that. He was the

2031
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: one who hosted the chat, and again I admire his

2032
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: willingness to be accessible, but he could be doing so

2033
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:31,600
Speaker 1: much else that's infinitely more satisfying. Kevin Durant us to

2034
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: get himself a girlfriend, wife, some who are you? Are

2035
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: you serious? I'm dead serious k D. I'm a huge

2036
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: KD fan, Like he's. I don't want to say he's

2037
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: hurting his brand because again this pops that it becomes

2038
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: a news story. Kevin Durant said, this radio is talking

2039
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 1: about a TV podcast, so he's getting a pop, Isaac,

2040
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: we'll go to break. Let me just I'll tell you

2041
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 1: my theory on Kate. All right, thank you Isaac for

2042
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 1: the for the news back here on Fox Sports Radio.

2043
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: So my quick theory on Kevin Durant is that he

2044
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: saw what Lebron did when Lebron did the decision, Lebron

2045
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: leaves Cleveland from Miami. A lot of people hate Lebron

2046
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: for that, burning his jersey all that, but what did

2047
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: it do for Lebron's stature in sports? He became a

2048
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: massive star. Right. We all know the theory. They either

2049
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: love you or they hate you, but they're talking about you.

2050
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: If you're kind of in the middle, it's like whatever. Instantly,

2051
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: when Lebron did the decision and went to Miami, everybody

2052
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: hated it, but it raised his profile. And Lebron is

2053
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:49,520
Speaker 1: confident in himself. He's got his high school sweetheart, Lebron's

2054
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: got his kids, he's he's got an escape, so he's

2055
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 1: not on social media all the time. I don't know

2056
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 1: if he had that escape in the finals in two thousands,

2057
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 1: in ten or whatever whatever the first year of the

2058
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: finals was, when they lost to Miami, it was pretty

2059
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: clear that Lebron didn't have the escape then because it

2060
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 1: was in his head and mental and just you know,

2061
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 1: they lost and he was bad. But after that, Smooth

2062
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: Sailing went to the finals eight straight years. I believe

2063
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: the reality is, and I like him. Kevin Durray doesn't

2064
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 1: have that outlet of wife and kids, at least not

2065
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. He might be married, I don't,

2066
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 1: it's not really public, but you could see at the

2067
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, Lebron goes to his wife and

2068
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 1: his family and obviously likes sports, and they've got a

2069
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. Lebron's doing movies, He's got businesses.

2070
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: I just read a story where Lebron's company this whatever

2071
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: this company is that puts out the barbershop and all that.

2072
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 1: It's worth like six hundred million dollars or something, and

2073
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: he might sell a chunk of it. Guys, I'm telling you,

2074
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 1: you might hate Lebron out there. He's on his way

2075
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: to being a billion dollar guy in the next five years,

2076
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: and he's on his way to owning an NBA team

2077
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: probably the next five or ten years. I mean, basically,

2078
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 1: he's taken over and Kevin Durant has seen all this

2079
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: so he goes to Golden State, gets the blowback, gets

2080
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: the hatred, wins titles, becomes the best player on the planet,

2081
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 1: wins the finals, MVPs, gets himself into Silicon Valley, gets

2082
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: himself investing in a ton of stuff. Now he's back,

2083
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 1: goes to Brooklyn. He's doing the New York Oklahoma City.

2084
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of not the disrespect. Okay, See it's a dustbin.

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Speaker 1: It's a dust bowl, sorry dust bowl, and it goes

2086
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 1: to Silicon Valley. West Coast conquers that. Now goes to

2087
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 1: the East Coast and they didn't win, but everybody has hurt. So,

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: I mean, we all think that the Nets we're gonna

2089
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: win the title, right. They were the favorites in Vegas

2090
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: when the big three were healthy and played, which wasn't

2091
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: a lot, they were dominant. So yeah, Kevin Duran has

2092
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: seen what Lebron did and he's doing the same damn thing,

2093
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: operating the same playbook. The big question is who got next?

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01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 1: Is Damian Lillard willing to do that? Now? Not abody's

2095
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: built for this. The criticism can make you if you

2096
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,759
Speaker 1: if you're weak minded, you can't handle this stuff. It's tough,

2097
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: and listen I don't mean to disparage people, but I

2098
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: have worked closely with people and seeing them go through

2099
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 1: this exact same thing on a much smaller scale, being

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01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: in sports media and getting in the spotlight. Like you know,

2101
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,800
Speaker 1: you go viral for something that you said or did.

2102
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: It may seem cool, but when they're coming after you,

2103
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: if you're not able to compartmentalize and shut it down

2104
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 1: and get off the social media and put your phone

2105
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 1: down and hangle your family and distract yourself like, it

2106
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 1: can do damage. And I've seen people damage by it.

2107
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 1: They're now out of sports. I mean, you don't have

2108
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 1: to look too hard. I've worked closely with them, and

2109
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad, but I watched it happen firsthand, where

2110
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: they're normal and then they just start unraveling. You need

2111
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 1: that outlook that is so important. I cannot stress it enough.

2112
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about oh I go to a

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: yoga class. That's not enough. Social media, like our brain,

2114
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: we're not wired. Humans were not built to have an

2115
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: encyclopedia in your pocket that you're staring at all day.

2116
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,719
Speaker 1: Our brains are just not wired for that. It messes

2117
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,559
Speaker 1: with you big time. That's why the parents who can

2118
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: fight the good fight and hold off on giving the

2119
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 1: kids a phone. That's a good win. We held off

2120
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: long on uh Xbox, We held off long as we

2121
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,640
Speaker 1: could on um roadblocks. We held off as long as

2122
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: we could on Fortnite. My kids just started Fortnite here

2123
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: in the last like six weeks. It's you can see

2124
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: how addictive it is. We started, we had to set

2125
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: limits on that stuff, Like I'm just I'm just telling you, like,

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01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: just be careful with the social media. I'm sure I

2127
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: sound very preachy. If you've never tuned into the show.

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01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of people like, who is

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01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: this guy thinks he knows all the answers. I definitely

2130
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 1: do not have all the answers. I like to think

2131
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: I have a lot of the answers or a lot

2132
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,759
Speaker 1: of potential solutions, but the reality is like we're all

2133
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: searching for the answer and there, you know, I don't

2134
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 1: know if it's the answer to the meaning of life.

2135
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 1: That might be a little heavy for a Saturday morning

2136
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: sports radio show, but you know, figuring out who's gonna

2137
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 1: win Game five probably has a little more value for us.

2138
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 1: But it's fun to think big picture and like life

2139
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,879
Speaker 1: and solving problems and putting yourself in a good space.

2140
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying this Kevin Durant stuff. Isaac so

2141
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 1: disappointing to hear him go in there and then talking certainly,

2142
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: just I know he's smart. He's obviously intelligent. I don't

2143
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,879
Speaker 1: know book smart, but like he seems like he's obviously

2144
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: streets smart and gets a lot of stuff. And the

2145
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: sports media stereotype is people like us, Oh, they want

2146
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: to poke fun at these athletes and make fun of

2147
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: them and subsidize it for content. But even like you

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01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: and I, it's kind of like we're not poking fun.

2149
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 1: We actually feel bad and are kind of concerned about

2150
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 1: him if he if he has to approach them like that. Yeah,

2151
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: I I just wonder is Yon built for this kind

2152
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: of thing, because if he tries to get out of

2153
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans, he's gonna take all this and probably more.

2154
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I hope he's built for it. I think it would

2155
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: be awesome for him and his brand. Um And I

2156
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 1: know that sounds cheap to be talking about athlete brands,

2157
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: but folks, that's the reality. And twenty one, all these

2158
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: guys going to Team USA and the Olympics, I mean

2159
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 1: they don't really want to be there, but they do

2160
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 1: want to sell sneakers. And if you look at all

2161
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 1: the guys were on the team, the high profile ones.

2162
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about JaVale McGee and Keldon Johnson, but

2163
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: Tatum's trying to pop as a sneaker guy. Damian Lillard

2164
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: already has and he's a rapper. Kevin Durant just looking

2165
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: for more brand exposure. Like it's helpful coming up here

2166
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, we will wrap up the show.

2167
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: The only problem with this song, I would saying, is

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01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I have it all. Yeah. By the way,

2169
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 1: Whitney Hughes didn't in The Bodyguard. I know that The

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01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: Bodyguard is something like romance movie, but they've been showing

2171
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: it on whatever cable like Showtime or Set them Back

2172
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 1: one of those a lot lately. And like Kevin cost

2173
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: is really good in The Bodyguard. It's not a terrible movie.

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01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that was. That was during his sort of his

2175
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 1: streak of big Kevin Costan movies, Dances with Wolves, Field

2176
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 1: of Dreams, and now he's in Yellowstone A good show. Guys.

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01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've watched it, and I think

2178
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go check out some big Sky Country.

2179
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm not one of those dudes who's like, I

2180
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: like the creature comforts. I like air conditioning, like WiFi,

2181
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, I like that stuff. Big Sky Country does

2182
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: not really have that, at least in my mind. And

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01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't really like skiing and cold weather. You know,

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01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: you guys know my I'm a a child of immigrants

2185
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: and I've got Caribbean blood pumping through my body. I

2186
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: like warm weather. That's why I love California so much.

2187
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 1: And I think Yellowstone has opened my eyes to the

2188
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 1: possibility of big, big Sky Country is pretty cool. And

2189
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 1: and I got some buddies who are from that area

2190
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: and go up there a lot, and they're like, dude,

2191
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 1: you gotta check it out. It's awesome. So I think,

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01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in next summer, I don't know what.

2193
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 1: We're considering a trip to Europe. Still have not done

2194
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Europe with the kids. Of course, we were good, all

2195
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: everything was locked in for Italy and booked last summer,

2196
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: and um we were going through Costco, which many many

2197
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 1: of our friends have done, and it's amazing. They have

2198
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 1: the best deals and the hotels are good. But of

2199
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: course COVID hit and we had We got all our

2200
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 1: money back from that, but I feel like I do

2201
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 1: have it all. I'm very thankful hashtag blessed. Um. You know,

2202
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you could always have a little bit more,

2203
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 1: but you never want to get greedy. I mean, I'm

2204
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: super content and happy obviously not being here and the

2205
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: camaraderie you get with producers and board guys and um

2206
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: update guys. It's fun and I will still be in here,

2207
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: but also gonna be fun to um, you know, playing

2208
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: a tennis tournament next weekend and uh playing a volleyball

2209
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,839
Speaker 1: tournament and um, you know, wake up on a Saturday

2210
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 1: morning and run or just take my kids out to

2211
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 1: breakfast and stay at our a Friday night late. Not

2212
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 1: like I'm a I'm not a night owl anymore. Though

2213
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: it's weird, I don't. I think we talked about this

2214
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 1: a little. I was saying, but like one of the

2215
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 1: joys for me right now is waking up early and

2216
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: starting a day, like, let me get some push ups.

2217
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 1: What's that? I said, What's wrong with you? No, that's

2218
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: like I love starting it, And like if you go

2219
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 1: out drinking heavily, you can't really do that. The next day,

2220
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 1: I got a lot of stuff I want to accomplish. Um, yeah,

2221
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: I know it sounds nerdy, but like getting a good

2222
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: run to start the day, going up, getting up some

2223
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 1: basketball shots, lifting like that stuff gets me started for

2224
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 1: the day. If I go, if I go into bed

2225
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: late after a lot of drinking, I wake up, I'm like,

2226
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: then you gotta deal with the kids sometimes. Nonsense. Um,

2227
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 1: first my order as a basketball game today? Um, we

2228
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 1: got some fun stuff lined up. Definitely an exciting time

2229
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: in the Jason McEntire world. Very happy and excited for football.

2230
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 1: Code up. Um, let's go out with some my guests

2231
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 1: Game five NBA picks. I'll be vetting some Chris Paul

2232
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 1: overs today. I think he bounces back. I think Janice

2233
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 1: overs are gonna be good because I don't think Middleton

2234
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 1: or Holiday show up. Janice realizes that and he's got

2235
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: to carry the load. Um, Isaac, do you have a

2236
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 1: play on tonight's game? Last I saw was three me

2237
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 1: a half sons. I don't have a play, but I

2238
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:38,839
Speaker 1: would go with Phoenix and a footnote. The Phoenix Arena

2239
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: changed its name in the middle of the series, so

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01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 1: starting tonight it will be known as the Footprint Center.

2241
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 1: Just f y. I for those of you watching tonight,

2242
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: what's that all about? New corporate sponsor? And they just

2243
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 1: happened to do the deal right in the middle of

2244
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:53,879
Speaker 1: the finals. I think it's literally the fifth different arena

2245
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: name that they've had in the last seven or eight

2246
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 1: years for that arena. She's so it's just changing again

2247
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: left and right. UM, it's funny. I so you guys

2248
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: know that. Um, somebody in the Ben Simmon circle. Uh

2249
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 1: was at my gym for a few years. And I'm

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02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: that guy who goes and of course I see somebody

2251
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 1: who looks like an athlete. I'm like, oh, maybe this

2252
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 1: guy wants to play basketball with us. UM. I just

2253
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 1: have this weird way like my brother has the real

2254
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 1: gravitational personality pulled that he just is super friendly with everybody.

2255
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 1: He's in a fraternity just he's in sales like he's

2256
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 1: crushes every because his personality is just incredible. I don't

2257
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 1: have the vibrant personality he does. Um. I have a

2258
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 1: little bit of it, and I I am able to,

2259
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, make friends with guys who I think are

2260
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 1: going places. I want to surround myself with people who

2261
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 1: are doing good things, so I become friendly with this

2262
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 1: guy who is a in the Ben Simmon circle, and

2263
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, he trained some other NBA players, And I

2264
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: am constantly hitting up this guy and other and other

2265
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: people for NBA tidbits and um, you know, one of

2266
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 1: them is like, you've got to really get in a routine,

2267
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: Ian if you want to be successful at anything. And

2268
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: that's why I say I like to wake up early

2269
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 1: and do this. I got my kids doing some coding, um,

2270
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: because let's let's be real, the future is coding, right

2271
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: as as much fun as sports is, and listen, sports

2272
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 1: are fun, but the future for sports, I think is gambling.

2273
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 1: I think you guys are already or aware of this.

2274
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 1: We've been hammering away on this show. I do it

2275
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: on Straight Fire, I do it for Fox Sports. Um,

2276
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 1: the gambling companies, they're starting to pop, as you guys

2277
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 1: will know. Um. But I definitely want to give give

2278
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:34,120
Speaker 1: a final shout out to the big bosses, uh, Scott

2279
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: and Don for given taking a chance on a guy

2280
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 1: who had like no radio experience six years ago. Obviously,

2281
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: I think I've forgotten all the producers. But it's like

2282
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:46,960
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Music was my first He's now on

2283
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 1: the cowherd. Show. Rob G was maybe my second. I

2284
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 1: think Gavin was my third, and now Ryan Ryan Burrt singer. Um.

2285
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 1: I thank all these guys for their great work. Uh.

2286
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 1: I was Sam and Chris on the board. I think

2287
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: it a little Danny G on the board, and then

2288
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 1: I think Isaac has been like the guy ADEBT sometimes

2289
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:14,800
Speaker 1: fills in. Right, Am I missing anyone? I was Sam?

2290
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you've run the gamut there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also I was Sam's gonna probably have to continue with

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Speaker 1: the Iowa Minute being our Big twelve slash Big ten correspondent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to carry that legacy. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's getting the show guys from here on the probably

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Speaker 1: some tryouts. Probably can't fill it with just one person

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Speaker 1: because I'm so good at I'm kidding the kidding. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening and obviously catch me on straight Fire.

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Speaker 1: You follow me on Instagram, Twitter. I am out