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Speaker 3: So twenty line. We've had some awesome guests sit down

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Speaker 3: with us all through twenty twenty five. So let's look

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Speaker 3: back at some of our favorite interviews that maybe you missed.

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Speaker 3: First up, ESPN senior writer and New York Times best

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Speaker 3: selling author Seth Wickersham. Set's one of the best long

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Speaker 3: form NFL storytellers out there. He put out a book

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Speaker 3: called American Kings, a Biography of the Quarterback, So we

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Speaker 3: talked about a lot of quarterbacks. Big thanks to Seth.

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Speaker 3: Here he is, Seth Wickersham. All right, Seth Wickersham is

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Speaker 5: Great to see you, man, good to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations on the book. Let's talk about arch Manning

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Speaker 3: for a second. And you know you write about how

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Speaker 3: how ruthless the recruitment was, how did they settle on Texas?

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Speaker 5: So go with the book. You know, what I wanted

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Speaker 5: to do was show what it's like to do this

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Speaker 5: very uniquely American job, very unique American responsibilities at like

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Speaker 5: every level from current high school to college, pro retired

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Speaker 5: Hall of Famer and Arch was interesting to me because,

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Speaker 5: you know, it was a window into this entire iconic

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Speaker 5: entire Manning story through Arch and specifically through Arch's recruitment,

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Speaker 5: and it got so competitive. I think that, like even

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Speaker 5: the NIL era, how hot it got for Arch. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think that it came down to Alabama, Georgia, and Texas.

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Speaker 5: The reasons why he picked Texas were I think they

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Speaker 5: were pretty wise. I mean, in no particular order. Number One,

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Speaker 5: Steve Sarkigian he's the play caller and the head coach,

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Speaker 5: so he's not going anywhere. He's not gonna be one

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Speaker 5: might you know, was going to be a team on

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Speaker 5: It kind of helped elevate it.

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Speaker 6: He liked that it was at school.

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Speaker 5: That had a ton of talent, and I think after

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Speaker 5: on a team that had, you know, other five star players.

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Speaker 5: And then finally, and this is the one that I

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Speaker 5: be pretty anonymous there. And that, to me is the

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Speaker 5: most interesting aspect of it all, because here you have

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Speaker 5: Football Royalty, and you know, part of the reason why

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Speaker 5: he picked Texas was because he thought, and we'll see

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Speaker 5: how well that works out, that you know, he could

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Speaker 5: be anonymous there. And I think that, like even some

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Speaker 5: of the reporting of my book, you know, shows that

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Speaker 5: like that itself was was too difficult to ask for.

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Speaker 3: How influential were Archie, Cooper, Peyton eli All in Archer's

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Speaker 5: And I think that like they're all really hyper aware

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Speaker 5: Stewart was like, what do you mean? And Cooper was like,

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Speaker 5: I want you to run point. I want you to

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Speaker 5: be the gatekeeper. And we're not going to take offers.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to be posting on social media every

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Speaker 5: We're going to do things a little bit different to

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Speaker 5: And I think that's really important. And so it was

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Speaker 5: this and he's the one who decided on Texas really,

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Speaker 5: just like Peyton did with Tennessee and even Eli. Did

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Speaker 3: Mis, you're right about Joe Namath then before both of

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Speaker 3: juxtaposition because he played at Alabama, like all of that.

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Speaker 3: We didn't get to experience it, but we're only catching

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Speaker 3: it like through story like folklore even And so yeah,

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Speaker 3: what did you think of Joe namath cultural impact once

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, look, all quarterbacks are cold archetypes of

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Speaker 5: John Unitis and Joe Namath. I mean, like those two

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Speaker 5: in the book, there are other guys who who helped

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Speaker 5: set them up, especially Bob Waterfield. In the nineteen forties,

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Speaker 5: first couples first, you know, the country's first power couple.

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Speaker 5: But really name it is, you know, a watershed moment

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Speaker 5: in so many ways. And it was interesting because I've

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Speaker 5: been with Joe Namath at events in New York and

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Speaker 5: I've been with him at one event at the University

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Speaker 5: of Alabama at the stadium, and just my personal opinion,

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Speaker 5: I thought that he was way more revered, way more

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Speaker 5: sought after, almost looked like with a type of reverence

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Speaker 5: much cultural template that he started once he was with

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Speaker 5: guy who first offered the idea of quarterback as like

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Speaker 5: more joy when he was at Alabama than even during

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Speaker 3: I love your work just generally too, So good luck.

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Speaker 3: I hope the book sells a ga billion copies and

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Speaker 3: hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I love all the trinkets on your desk, and I

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Speaker 5: really appreciate your time, and thank you very very much.

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Speaker 3: I seth have a good day, man. Next up is

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco. Joe has played in the

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Speaker 3: NFL for close to twenty years, a lot of memorable moments.

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Speaker 3: One of those moments came when the lights went out

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Speaker 3: when he was playing in the Super Bowl against forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers. It was crazy. And how his body's feeling

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Speaker 3: to Joe on still being in the league playing in

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Speaker 3: his forties. Here he is Joe Flacco, my partner that

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Speaker 7: I think you got to make sure that you get

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Speaker 7: I think for me, as I get a little bit older,

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Speaker 7: it's just that maintenance routine. It's getting a good routine

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Speaker 7: when I was younger, you kind of run through those

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Speaker 7: they kind of build up, they don't go away, and

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Speaker 7: That's the beauty about playing quarterback, is that, Yes, you

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Speaker 3: Why are you still playing? You love it?

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Speaker 7: I better love it if I'm doing this. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: before before game time. I wouldn't say that I'm totally

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Speaker 3: Can you give me a memory from when the lights

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Speaker 7: I remember sitting on the bench and kind of the

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Speaker 6: I mean a lot.

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Speaker 7: I had a lot of friends and family that were

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Speaker 6: I wasn't throwing the ball eighty yards.

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Speaker 7: So I was sitting on my couch in my parents' house.

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Speaker 6: To be picked.

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Speaker 7: I felt like I was probably going to be picked

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Speaker 6: You end up getting picked.

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Speaker 6: Who called you, Ozzie called me.

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Speaker 7: Ozzie called me, and I think they were I think

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Speaker 6: And you know, obviously, like the whole.

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Speaker 3: How much sleep do you try to get a night.

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Speaker 6: Right now.

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Speaker 7: I got to tell you there was a time where,

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Speaker 3: So is there a you get to a game, because

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Speaker 7: Listen, there's times, Yeah, I don't know about my brain,

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Speaker 7: And listen, it's not ideal for us. We're waking up

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Speaker 6: Man, I've been all over the place the last few years.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Like in Baltimore's same room, Saints, same room, same room. Joe,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate the time, and I thank you for spending

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Speaker 6: No, I appreciate it. You guys have a good one,

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Speaker 8: He was unbelievable. Number one, he was a really good person.

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Speaker 8: He is a really good person. We stay in touch.

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Speaker 8: I'm happy he's coaching. He's going to have a great

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Speaker 8: I mean, the most unbelievable athlete I've ever been around.

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Speaker 8: We're playing the Carolina Panthers. We win the game, I

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Speaker 8: Mike starts to run on the field. I bring him

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Speaker 8: like you just like I tell him every every week,

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Speaker 8: he was fun to be around.

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Speaker 3: He was something just to watch like his old YouTube

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Speaker 6: His burst.

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Speaker 2: And you'd see that every day. But his arm was

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Speaker 8: it wasn't real, but I think he could probably do that.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he was a cultural icon and he made

441
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Speaker 8: a huge impact on this league. I think he changed

442
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Speaker 8: the direction of how people look at quarterbacks. And yeah,

443
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Speaker 8: he was really fun and just funded to know as

444
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Speaker 8: a person.

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Speaker 3: Next up, our interview with Kansas City Chiefs chairman and

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Speaker 3: CEO Clark Hunt. Clark grew up around the league, with

447
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Speaker 3: his family being a huge part of NFL history, and

448
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Speaker 3: now he's leading one of the most successful franchises in

449
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Speaker 3: all of sports. Big thanks to Clark for coming on

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Speaker 3: with us here. He is Clark Hunt. First of all,

451
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Speaker 3: mister Hunt, I would like to say that I cannot

452
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Speaker 3: wait for you to be in the Hall of Fame.

453
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Speaker 3: I want to say what I've seen from your organization.

454
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Speaker 3: I'm ready whenever you're on television and that jacket, I'll

455
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Speaker 3: be like, that's my guy right there. So congratulations on

456
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Speaker 3: just massive success over the past decade.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I sure appreciate it. It's absolutely been a

458
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Speaker 9: very special time to be a Kansas City Chiefs fan.

459
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Speaker 9: You know, really, from the day that Andy Reid walked

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Speaker 9: into the building in twenty thirteen, we've been building for

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Speaker 9: this moment. We've had an incredible amount of success over

462
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Speaker 9: the last six years, and hopefully we'll be able to

463
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Speaker 9: carry that forward.

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Speaker 3: The legend of the Andy Reid interview is nine hours.

465
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Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

466
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Speaker 9: That is accurate, and it's hard to believe in retrospect.

467
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Speaker 9: I'm not sure what we talked about for nine hours,

468
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Speaker 9: but it was a great opportunity to really get to

469
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Speaker 9: know each other, and I think we just realized that

470
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Speaker 9: we had tremendous chemistry and that relationship was going to

471
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Speaker 9: be a good fit. I also had a lot of

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Speaker 9: my staff there who got to spend time with Andy,

473
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Speaker 9: which I think was good for them and as well

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Speaker 9: as good for Andy. And there was just a lot

475
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Speaker 9: of comfort all the way around, and we were able

476
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Speaker 9: to get him to Kansas City later that week and

477
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Speaker 9: he's been there ever since.

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Speaker 3: How important was culture versus X's and O's when making

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Speaker 3: that decision.

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Speaker 9: Well, we've been through a very challenging couple of seasons

481
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Speaker 9: leading up to that hiring in twenty thirteen, and I

482
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Speaker 9: felt that we needed a very experienced leader, somebody who

483
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Speaker 9: had experience in championship games, which Andy certainly did. Interestingly,

484
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Speaker 9: our twenty twelve team had I believe six Pro Bowl

485
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Speaker 9: players on it, and that was a team that won

486
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Speaker 9: only two games, so it wasn't like we didn't have

487
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Speaker 9: some talent on the roster. And I think what Andy

488
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Speaker 9: did when he arrived in Kannessee was he really changed

489
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Speaker 9: the culture. He changed the expectations, he changed the relationship

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Speaker 9: between the coaching staff and the players, and he was

491
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Speaker 9: able to immediately get off on a great start. The

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Speaker 9: team won nine straight games at the beginning of that

493
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Speaker 9: twenty thirteen season, and I just think it shows what

494
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Speaker 9: a great coach he is, both from a culture standpoint

495
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Speaker 9: as well as from the next.

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Speaker 6: AS and o's.

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Speaker 3: If I was the owner, I don't want to do

498
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Speaker 3: like player stuff. Do you ever go work out with

499
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Speaker 3: the players like cut off a shirt and hop in.

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Speaker 9: So during training camp, when I, you know, spend a

501
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Speaker 9: more time around the team, I will occasionally end up

502
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Speaker 9: in the gym with the players, and I have to

503
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Speaker 9: say it's very humbling or maybe even humiliating.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. I feel like I would be doing that

505
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Speaker 3: all the time. The folklore of the mister Clark Hunt

506
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Speaker 3: graduating first as class at SMU true or false.

507
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Speaker 9: It's hard to believe, but but it's true. I have

508
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Speaker 9: several children who are at SMU recently graduated from SMU,

509
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Speaker 9: and it's it's it's a great university, and I had

510
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Speaker 9: an amazing experience there. I'm not sure how I pulled

511
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Speaker 9: that off.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes as a person. What's he like? What's your

513
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Speaker 3: relationship like with him? As people?

514
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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's just an awesome human being. As good a

515
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Speaker 9: football player as he is, he's an even better person.

516
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Speaker 9: Of course. Everyone knows about his leadership ability in the

517
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Speaker 9: locker room, but he's a guy that really cares about

518
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Speaker 9: the people around him, and I think that's part of

519
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Speaker 9: the reason why his teammates love playing with him, is

520
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Speaker 9: that they know that he cares about them both on

521
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Speaker 9: and off the field. He's a terrific guy, you know,

522
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Speaker 9: lots of fun, loves to play golf, He's a tremendous

523
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Speaker 9: family man, and it's you know, so much fun to

524
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Speaker 9: get to see him be a dad.

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Speaker 3: I want to make a comparison, and you're definitely way

526
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Speaker 3: more successful, way smarter, and better looking than me. But

527
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Speaker 3: when I started to have a bit of success and

528
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Speaker 3: I was like touring, I'd have all this people come

529
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Speaker 3: up like, I'm your cousin, let me get tickets. When

530
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Speaker 3: you guys started to crush it, did you have more

531
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Speaker 3: friends all of a sudden that wanted to be like,

532
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Speaker 3: you know, on the field, Oh Clark, it's me, your

533
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Speaker 3: buddy from my school.

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Speaker 9: You know, that's one of the blessings that comes with

535
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Speaker 9: having a little bit of success. And I have a

536
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Speaker 9: great group of friends and I love having them around

537
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Speaker 9: for these championship opportunities. That's something when I look back

538
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Speaker 9: on this time period that I'm going to remember getting

539
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Speaker 9: to celebrate it with my family and friends. So that's

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Speaker 9: totally a positive that I've got some guys that have

541
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Speaker 9: reached out that I haven't seen.

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Speaker 6: In a little while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had people on twenty three and meters like

544
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Speaker 3: like one percent match, They're like, I'm your cousin, let

545
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Speaker 3: me get in see I'd be afraid with the Chiefs,

546
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Speaker 3: they'd be a lot worse than that, mister Hunt. I'm

547
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Speaker 3: always super curious about successful people and driven people, like

548
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Speaker 3: what they read. Like I would imagine you're a studious person, Like,

549
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Speaker 3: what are your favorite books?

550
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I don't have a lot of time to

551
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Speaker 9: read books. I spend a lot of time reading literature

552
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Speaker 9: that's related to the sports business and just sort of

553
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Speaker 9: staying up on what's going on both in the National

554
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 9: Football League and you probably know that we're also involved

555
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 9: in Major League Soccer. So it's really more focused on

556
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 9: newspapers and magazines. You of course access online today that really,

557
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Speaker 9: you know, helped me stay up to speed on what's

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Speaker 9: going on.

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Speaker 3: What about listening to people that have opinions that have

560
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Speaker 3: no idea what they're talking about. Do you ever come

561
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Speaker 3: across that, like on social media or anybody like this

562
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: guy thinks he knows everything, but he doesn't.

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Speaker 9: Certainly, social media has changed how we consume news, and

564
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Speaker 9: it's opened up the ability to have a lot of

565
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Speaker 9: other people that are commenting on sports, and so you've

566
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Speaker 9: got a lot more perspectives out there. Not everybody's going

567
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Speaker 9: to agree, and that's okay.

568
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Speaker 3: When you were growing up, who was your favorite player?

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Speaker 6: It was Lynn Dawson.

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Speaker 9: You know, I grew up during that era where the

571
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Speaker 9: Chiefs went to Super Bowl, won and lost, and then

572
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Speaker 9: made it back in Super Bowl four and beat the

573
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Speaker 9: Minnesota Vikings. I got to spend some time around around

574
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Speaker 9: the team as a kid with my dad, and you know,

575
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Speaker 9: Lynn was definitely a hero for me. I was also

576
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Speaker 9: a big fan of your on Stin Rude because I

577
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 9: was a soccer player and Johan, of course was one

578
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Speaker 9: of the first soccer style placekickers in the National Football League,

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Speaker 9: and so I love getting to hang out with him

580
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Speaker 9: as well.

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Speaker 3: We have three more questions for you, mister Hunt. And

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Speaker 3: you're sitting in front of a wall of accolades, a

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Speaker 3: team accolades for sure, a lot of balls. Which ball

584
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Speaker 3: behind you brings up the quickest, greatest memory.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm not going to stand up and you know,

586
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Speaker 9: pick one of the balls. But one of them back

587
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 9: there has the signatures of our Super Bowl team from

588
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Speaker 9: twenty nineteen and that was obviously special because it was

589
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Speaker 9: our first trip back to the Big Game in fifty

590
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Speaker 9: years and you know, being able to get across the

591
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Speaker 9: finish line there and win that game that was so special.

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Speaker 3: There he is mister Clark Hunt Chiefs. That's all see yeah,

593
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Speaker 3: all right. Final interview is with former Georgia All American

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Speaker 3: and longtime college football analyst David Pollock. David was one

595
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Speaker 3: of the most dominant David was one of the most

596
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Speaker 3: dominant defensive players in the country during his playing days,

597
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: and then he became one of the most recognizable voices

598
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Speaker 3: breaking down the sport every single Saturday. Thanks to David

599
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Speaker 3: for hopping on all with us. Here he is David Pollack. David,

600
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: good to see you man.

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Speaker 2: Great to see brother.

602
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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me out a couple things. What does

603
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Speaker 3: Saturday like at your house?

604
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Speaker 2: Probably the laziest human in the world.

605
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Speaker 4: I always wake up and make sure that I get

606
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Speaker 4: my workout in, you know, get some steps in because

607
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: the rest of the day is going to consist of

608
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Speaker 4: watching football, multiple screens and multiple games going.

609
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Speaker 2: I got my laptop in front of me taking.

610
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Speaker 4: Notes of everything that I see in the observations, and

611
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: it's literally it's a quick grind from twelve o'clock to

612
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: night time. It's like what just happened. It was fast

613
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: and furious. But it's so much dagga fun too. It's

614
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: not like it's really working. And think about this, man

615
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: if says, like, what do you want to do?

616
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Speaker 3: Something you want to do?

617
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: Like, sorry, bet, I gotta work.

618
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: Like I got to sit here right on the couch

619
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Speaker 4: and work. So it's a lot of consuming for sure.

620
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Speaker 3: Do you still catch the West Coast games too? Or

621
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Speaker 3: is it bedtime?

622
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Speaker 4: Oh god, no, we're catching them all, brother, Like, we're

623
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: not going to bed till, you know, till one or two.

624
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Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, I was up watching by

625
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Speaker 4: you late, you know, this past after this past Saturday,

626
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: after everything was commencing. Actually I'm sorry Sunday morning. So no,

627
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Speaker 4: you definitely stay up and watch as much as you

628
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 4: can to to make sure you're educated. There's some good

629
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Speaker 4: football out west man, Like, it's fun to it's fun

630
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: to watch that and consume that as well.

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Speaker 3: Can you watch NFL though recreationally because you're watching college obviously,

632
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: because you're an expert. Can you watch NFL with a

633
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: little less attention?

634
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: Man, I just try to. I tried not to on Sundays.

635
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: I try to just get away from it, and we've

636
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: got church, and we've got you know, a small group,

637
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: and we've got other things.

638
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Speaker 2: So it'll be on like during the day at the

639
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: end of the day. But now we.

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00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: Definitely try to do more as a family and get

641
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 4: up and move a little bit more and do like

642
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: I love to play golf in the afternoon if I can,

643
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: if I can stink that in. But now I can't

644
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: watch any game like a normal like just sit back

645
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: and relax and watch like I'm definitely always looking at

646
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: the game from an analytical view, probably one of the

647
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: only things that won't turn my brain off. But NFL

648
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: football is fun and different. And I've played fantasy for

649
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: years and that's kind of changes the way you look

650
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: at the game. But this year I told I committed.

651
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not watching for fantasy.

652
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Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I'm not getting upset, like I'm

653
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: just cheering my guy on.

654
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Speaker 3: So I try to decompress a little bit on Sundays

655
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: after you finished playing after your injury. And I have

656
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: different friends that played different positions and their bodies did

657
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: different things after they retired. Some of them put on

658
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Speaker 3: a bunch of weight, some of them lost a bunch

659
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: of weight. You played a position nowhere, I'm not sure

660
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: if you had to keep your weight up or down

661
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: because you played a very athletic position, but it was

662
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: on the line. What happened to you physically after you

663
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: stopped playing.

664
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a chunky. I was a chunky monkey.

665
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: I always was growing up. And it's funny your identity

666
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: gets you know, it's okay when you're a football player

667
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: to be thicker and be bigger and so defensive lineman.

668
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: I was two ninety two at my heaviest, and you do,

669
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: you're you're absolutely right.

670
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: You go one or two ways.

671
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: You either keep the habits you had and if you do,

672
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: you're going to keep growing, or you start.

673
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: To change the eating habits.

674
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: And so I've definitely lost like fifty sixty pounds from

675
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: my top playing weight, and it's a different look. I

676
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: eat to survive. I'm not one of those persons that

677
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 4: has a lot of these like temptations and food like

678
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: I don't care where we go eat.

679
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: I just I want to eat the same thing.

680
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: I want to know what I'm eating, and definitely me

681
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: and my buddies. When you go back to reunions, it's

682
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: it's you're a one hundred percent right.

683
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: It's one or the other.

684
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: It's get really skinny and trim, or it's put on

685
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: a little bit of weight and you look like you

686
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: played a totally different position.

687
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: You said you work out every day before, or you

688
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: try to work out every day, same with me, But

689
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: I assume our workouts are a bit different. Just looking

690
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: at us, I would think visually, Uh so are you

691
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: still a guy who does heavy weight or how have

692
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: you changed your workouts?

693
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm done with heavyweight, man, Like heavyweight does nothing

694
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: for me. I'm not trying to have any more surgeries

695
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: or put my body through anything I don't need to.

696
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: Like I squatted almost seven hundred pounds in college, but like,

697
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm not going over you know, two seventy five on

698
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: a squad now, and I'll just do twenty five reps bench.

699
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do over two twenty five. I'll

700
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: do twenty five to thirty reps if I need to

701
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 4: do twenty five to thirty reps, or I'll slow it

702
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: down big time. Like the other day, we did sets

703
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: of ten and I did you know, five count down

704
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: with two twenty five hesitate and then come up, Well,

705
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: you do ten reps like that it'll hurt, like you

706
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: can make the weight hurt. So to me, it's more

707
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: about moving fast. We're big on the row machine. We're

708
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: big on the bike, especially assault bike, because that thing

709
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: will whip your Heini like.

710
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: But it's definitely a different way of training.

711
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get big and to have all

712
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: this mass, you know as we get older, trying to

713
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: fight father time and continue to be able to do

714
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: some explosive things, but not be like a big corn

715
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: fed mule. I've had those days. Those days are gone.

716
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: Was there ever a game where they rushed it either

717
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: where you lost and it's just awkward and you're like,

718
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: oh man, these fans are everywhere or the opposite where

719
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: it happened, and you're like, man, this is crazy, Like

720
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: we won and the fans are all down on top

721
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: of us.

722
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: When you're a player that loses, you're pissed off and

723
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: you got all these people that they're not meaning to,

724
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: but they're running into you like they're running on the

725
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: field and they're they're kind of bumping with you, and

726
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: you literally want to lower your shoulder and eliminate a

727
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: human being out of your way cause you're you're upset,

728
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: right like you're you want to take it out, but

729
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: you know, you know you can't do that, but it

730
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: is it's hard to keep your composure when that's when

731
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: that's happening. But when you're a student and that's happened

732
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: for you, like the passion and energy because because you

733
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: get so much like the dog walk at Georgia when

734
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: I was there, man, like to go through and watch

735
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: these people's eyes and to watch how much like passion

736
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 4: they have. Like, man, if it doesn't get you excited

737
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: to play, I don't know what does.

738
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: If they're that excited, you dang sure better be.

739
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: And and the thing I always loved about Georgia, like

740
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: you can bark it another human being, like a grown

741
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: adult can bark engine. That's and that's socially acceptable. Like

742
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: I'm all in for that kind of culture, but I

743
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: can see how it could lead to some bad I'm

744
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: surprised we haven't had more of the other like people

745
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: getting upset, people getting ran over, you know, because you're

746
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: you're literally running on the field with a bunch of

747
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: folks that are you know, not in the greatest of spirits,

748
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: that are sometimes angry and upset because they just lost.

749
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Aligarrett Blunt, that was not a

750
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: positive one. When they ran down and punched them. I

751
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: mean that that was a bad one. But yeah, I

752
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: think I would. That's why I would react to fans

753
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: ran down and I lost. I do not think. I

754
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: think i'muld be so triggered from losing that it would

755
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: not be a positive environment for me.

756
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're the emotions are not fun. Like

757
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: you're trying your best to be a good sport and

758
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: like shake hands and do that part, and then but

759
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: now you've got people running and bumping into you left

760
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: and right, like, yeah, that's not going to bring out

761
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: the best most of the time in a human being.

762
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: In high school, for you, when did you become dominant?

763
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 3: Ninth tenth grade? When was it for you physically and

764
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: mentally that the game was very easy?

765
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: So so my freshman year was okay. I was an

766
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, a little bit chubby, still hadn't grown into

767
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 4: my body. Actually, they asked me the first day, like

768
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: what position do you play? I was like, you know,

769
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: full back in the linebacker. They're like, not with the

770
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: six flat forty you play offensive line. And then my

771
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: second year I got a little bit better, but I

772
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: was stuck between JV and varsity and I actually quit.

773
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 4: I was like, bro, this sucks. Like football is hard

774
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: enough and not playing isn't cool. And then between my

775
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: sophomore and junior year, I grew six inches and gain

776
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: sixty pounds. And I don't know if you know this,

777
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: but like football is a lot more fun when you're

778
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 4: the hammer and not the nail.

779
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: Like it just makes a lot more sense.

780
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: But like, obviously, my junior year started to have success,

781
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: started to get recruited a little bit. But I'll never

782
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: forget man. Before my senior year, my coach, I had

783
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: a brand new coach. He calls me into his office

784
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, man, and I had offers from Georgia, Clemson,

785
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: like Ohio State and company going into my senior year.

786
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: He's like, if we're going to be a great team,

787
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: I need you to be the best player on the

788
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 4: field every single play. And I'm like, I'm your best player,

789
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: like you know, a cocky punk at that age. And

790
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: and he put on like six clips in a row

791
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: of me kind of jogging to the football and I

792
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, Like he's not wrong. Like,

793
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: that's really that's lazy. And I started practicing like an animal.

794
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: I started flying around and he helped me see something

795
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: in myself that I didn't see, and it took away

796
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 4: that blind spot and showed me I needed to really

797
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: really work. And then I became a really, really good

798
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: football player. You know, my senior year of.

799
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: High school, why Georgia? What was it?

800
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: This is the simplest answer that you've asked yet. My

801
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: baby doll, Lendsay Pollack, that was that was that was

802
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: their best. That was the feather in the cap of Georgia.

803
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: My dad grew up My dad grew up up north.

804
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: He was a Giants fan. We didn't pay attention to

805
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: much college football.

806
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: Moved down south when I was four, so we watched NFL,

807
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: not college. But when I started getting recruited, I started

808
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: seeing all the atmospheres.

809
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: I was like, this is dope.

810
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: But my baby doll, Lindsay Pollack, my only girlfriend, the

811
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: only girlfriend I've ever had now my wife.

812
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: Like, I drove to Gainesville, Florida with Steve.

813
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: Spurrier and I was like, oh my gosh, that's forever away,

814
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: you know, from her, And so being fifty five minutes

815
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: down the road right there in Athens.

816
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, that'll work.

817
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: You have your seatball, get ball signed behind you. So

818
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: and you do a couple of podcasts, and we're always

819
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: finding and recommend a good podcast to our listeners. So

820
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: what are we gonna hear on that podcast?

821
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 6: Man?

822
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: I love college football with everything in me and right

823
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: now with our season of life and my wife, like

824
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people know, she's she got diagnosed with

825
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: brain cancer, and like, so your your priorities and your

826
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: travel and your schedule is a lot different. So like

827
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: television absolutely not going to be a thing, but like

828
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: football is so fantastic and so great and that's literally

829
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: what you're gonna do. I have my buddy, that's my

830
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 4: neighbor on the podcast with me, who works for Pro

831
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: Football Focus and has all the numbers.

832
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: But like we come to you, you.

833
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: Know, four days a week and just talk football, unbiased,

834
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: strong opinions that are not like everybody else's. We're going

835
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: to watch a lot of tape and just I mean,

836
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: it's football, it's college football. It's the best there is

837
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 4: and so just having that and being able to follow

838
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: it talk about it is something that I enjoy and

839
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine life without it, and that's what

840
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: you'll get several days a week on YouTube and on

841
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: all the platforms for podcasts.

842
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: Hew you guys. Check it out Sea Ball, Get Ball

843
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: with David Pollock. Hey, big fan. Hated you at Georgia

844
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: when you played us, but loved you all the other times.

845
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: And then I was with a bank. I love watching

846
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: with the Bengals too, So yeah, big fan of you,

847
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: especially on television. So thank you for the time. Man,

848
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: really appreciate it and hope the podcast is killing it well.

849
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Man, appreciate you having me on.

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