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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny, and welcome to Steffan never told

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Speaker 1: your production of iHeart Radio. And yes, I am still

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Speaker 1: without Samantha, but I am joined today by a friend

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Speaker 1: of the show, friend in real life contributor Joey, who

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Speaker 1: has been with us several times, who is a good

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Speaker 1: nerd friend of mine, so much so that this episode

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Speaker 1: ballooned into two parts and we kept talking for about

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Speaker 1: an hour after it was over. But yes, we are

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Speaker 1: back with part two of our conversation with Joey about

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Speaker 1: New York Comic Con and fandom in general.

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Speaker 2: Go check out part one.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't, as hinted at as discussed in that episode,

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Speaker 1: really need Samantha Torain is in because yeah, she was

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Speaker 1: outsick and we just had so much to say and

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Speaker 1: we kept going indeed after the mic was off. But

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Speaker 1: there's just so much that is going on with the

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Speaker 1: mainstreaming of fandom to talk about, and in fact, we

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Speaker 1: came up with several other episode ideas doing this, So

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Speaker 1: this was a surprise two parter. And so I just

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Speaker 1: want to put in the reminder here we are going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about sexual assault and harassment in this part,

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Speaker 1: not in detail, but that is where we're picking up

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Speaker 1: with the conversation today, so let's get back into our discussion.

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Speaker 3: Last thing, I want to just discuss a little bit,

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Speaker 3: sexual assault harassment. This kind of came top of mind

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Speaker 3: again because we did a story for There Aren't No

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Speaker 3: Girls on the Internet, which is another show that I

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Speaker 3: work on with Bridget High. Last week we did a

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Speaker 4: There were all of these issues.

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Speaker 3: It was like something to where this guy had been

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Speaker 3: which makes so much sense. And this brings up, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think, well, my friend's life.

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Speaker 3: I'm still probably gonna go next year. I overhall had

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Speaker 3: a great time. I had a really fun time. There's

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Speaker 3: Like ninety nine percent of the interactions I have were

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Speaker 4: But there were a number of things.

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Speaker 3: This time I think just showed that there are changes

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Speaker 3: those are my takeaways this year. Again, that being said,

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Speaker 3: I did have a great time again. It's always fun

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Speaker 4: I was really proud of myself.

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Speaker 3: I bought a couple of things this year, but I

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Speaker 4: So you know that was a win.

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Speaker 1: Nice, Yeah, I mean again, I you and I think

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Speaker 1: It's I think they said, like ninety thousand people came

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Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting that we're seeing this more

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Speaker 2: Think some people take it way too seriously.

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Speaker 3: And that's mostly men. That's most men.

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Speaker 3: Know what, maybe maybe it's now they're all the Mandalorian

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Speaker 2: And you have to like show your apps and like

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming workout all the time, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: like this is too much, my dudes. But this year

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Speaker 2: They do. There's a huge section of it this year.

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Speaker 1: And it's like I feel like we're getting some winds

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Speaker 4: I'm not, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, I respect that for people that are into it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I like and luckily like for this kind

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Speaker 3: of thing, I was going with friends, I was with

440
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Speaker 3: people the entire time I was there.

441
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Speaker 2: I was.

442
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 3: There was a lot of there was a little bit

443
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Speaker 3: of like running around trying to find people one of.

444
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Speaker 2: My I had, I had a friend.

445
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 3: Like literally there were two days straight of the two

446
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: muths back and forth texting each other to try and

447
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: find each other, and it ended up like the last

448
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 3: hour the convention was open on Sunday, she like called

449
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 3: me and was like, I am standing at the coat rack.

450
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 3: Made me here right now, and I was like okay,

451
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 3: but yeah, No, it was like like I was there

452
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Speaker 3: with people I was, I had, I knew like if

453
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Speaker 3: something happened, I'll like I'm also kind of a friend

454
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 3: for some people where they know, like I'm not afraid

455
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: to yell at somebody if need be. So there's like

456
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Speaker 3: a couple of points where I was like, Okay, if

457
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: this sends up going I'm right here.

458
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 4: If this starts going.

459
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Speaker 3: Weird, like just give me a signal and I'll go

460
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Speaker 3: over and get you out of there. But yeah, it

461
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 3: is it's like it's it's sad to have to be

462
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 3: like what is my safety plan with all of this

463
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: where it's like I literally doing like the nerdiest thing

464
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Speaker 3: I possibly could be doing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah, yeah, I think overall, as discussed,

466
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Speaker 5: there have been a lot of strides, there's been a

467
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 5: lot of progress with that has come sort of a

468
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 5: backslide and now it's so popular, you we're seeing right

469
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Speaker 5: other issues.

470
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Speaker 2: But I do think like it's.

471
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Speaker 1: Always every time something we get some progress, things go

472
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Speaker 1: there's a backside.

473
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Speaker 2: But I do think there has.

474
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Speaker 3: There's been progress. There definitely has been and I think

475
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: saying here where there also was that conversation, I think

476
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Speaker 3: probably around the same time as drag Con, we're like

477
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: there's always the little Instagram post they'll put out before

478
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Speaker 3: com hondever or where they're like remember causeplays not consent,

479
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: blah blah blahlah, all these things that they do have,

480
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: you know, and again kind of going back to this

481
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 3: this Twitch story, shout out to bridget for I'm reading

482
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Speaker 3: entirely from her research.

483
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Speaker 4: For this, so thank you bridget Ton.

484
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Speaker 3: But like I think hearing that and being like this

485
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: is like the some of the worst stories I've heard

486
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Speaker 3: from this where there were like people it wasn't being

487
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Speaker 3: taken seriously, people were not like somebody was physically assaulted

488
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: in a mean great situation, and like it sounds like

489
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: it was just sort of swept under the rug and

490
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, yeah, we're dealing with it. And

491
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: then like the guy was still at other panels for

492
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Speaker 3: some reason, like they're they're what it like that hearing

493
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Speaker 3: that and being like, so this is the extreme of

494
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: things not being taken seriously and what happens and again, yeah,

495
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: you're seeing that backlash of all of these female streamers

496
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: now pulling out of it and being like, I'm not

497
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 3: gonna if this is how you're going to behave this

498
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: is how you're going to treat these problems. I don't

499
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Speaker 3: want to be involved, which I think that makes me

500
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Speaker 3: nervous to see. Like I think we're at this tipping

501
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: point right now, where like we we could backslide real quick.

502
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: There's been a little bit, there's been some like trickling

503
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: of behavior that's maybe worse than usual, or this could

504
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: just be a fluke, and we could continue on this

505
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: momentum of like things are getting better, They're gonna get better. Yes,

506
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: you cannot do something about every single issue, but like

507
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: there's you know, the methods to report these things, or

508
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 3: there are people in place. I mean, I also like

509
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Speaker 3: I'll be like I talked to a couple of the

510
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Speaker 3: like staff members at some point too, and it sounded

511
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Speaker 3: like they all were like exhausted too, which I don't

512
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Speaker 3: know if that just there weren't enough people that were

513
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Speaker 3: working there or they had two in your responsibility. I

514
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: mean like there was a point where I was like

515
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Speaker 3: in line to go get like a water or something,

516
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: and there was a woman behind me who was like,

517
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: oh shit, Like she started like freak handle, but she's

518
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: like I need to go back to my shift, and

519
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 3: I was like here, like go in front of me,

520
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 3: like stop in line in front of me like that.

521
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Speaker 4: I totally understand that.

522
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: Also, that's awful that like you literally do not have

523
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: enough time to get lunch on your lunch break because

524
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: of how much we're having to work, which is a

525
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: bigger issue too, also about like you know, how ploys

526
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Speaker 3: are treated at any sort of convention, like a whole

527
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: other conversation. But yeah, it's like like the there's again

528
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: there to tipping point. I think we could continue down

529
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: this path of like things improving and things getting better

530
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: at it being safer for people, or they could backslide

531
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Speaker 3: real quick.

532
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Speaker 4: And I really hope that is not what ends up happening.

533
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Speaker 2: I do as well. I do as well again, thank

534
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: you so much for being here. I could keep going and.

535
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: This podcast is going to turn into U y comic

536
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Speaker 3: con commentary our favorite Star Wars cosplays.

537
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Speaker 1: Yes, I would be so down, I would be so

538
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Speaker 1: well before we get into that, where can the good

539
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Speaker 1: listeners find.

540
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Speaker 3: To Yeah, you can find other other things that I

541
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Speaker 3: do again on There Are No Girls on the Internet

542
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: with Bridget Todd I. It is a bi weekly show

543
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: The Relea Tuesdays and Fridays.

544
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: I mostly work on the Friday episodes.

545
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: If you were interested in hearing that Twitch story that

546
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: I was talking about, it was the episode from October

547
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: twenty fourth. You can also I work on like a

548
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: number of the outspoken shows here at I Heeart so

549
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: you can also hear my work on Outlaws with Ys

550
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: Madison and also at the Black Bat Bem podcast.

551
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 4: If you want to find.

552
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: Me online, you can find me at patnt Pratt on Instagram.

553
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 3: I guess because it's relevant, I'll plug my TikTok too.

554
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: My TikTok is hot topic, Dad, I have not been

555
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: using it as much lately, but I don't know. Send

556
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Speaker 3: a follow over.

557
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Speaker 1: I don't know, and if you sell Joey in consplay

558
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Speaker 1: at Comic Con, you.

559
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: Could see by, you could see bike. Yeah, if you

560
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: saw me at comic Con, please send me pictures because

561
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Speaker 3: I can't even be like, oh, I don't have enough

562
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: pictures of me because I did make like my friends

563
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: take a bazillion pictures of me and like different poses

564
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: and stuff.

565
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 4: But you know, I can always have more photos of myself.

566
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Speaker 3: You can never have enough photos of yourself, especially in cosplay.

567
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 4: Especially in cosplay.

568
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never get any good photos. It's the saddest thing.

569
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: And you know, the like one of those sometimes wonderful

570
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: sad thing about being disco Luke Skywalker is no one

571
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: knows what it is except like maybe five people, and

572
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: so I can't even search a tag.

573
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: But everybody that does know what it is, it's like.

574
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Speaker 2: Best thing they ever.

575
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't say there's no nothing I could

576
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: search other than like usually people that I'm wonder Woman

577
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: or the Golden Snitch.

578
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: And this year I got a wrestler. I don't know who.

579
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Speaker 1: It was interesting, but yeah, so I never get any

580
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: people take a bunch of pictures. I'm like, I'll never

581
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: see that. I'll never see that one.

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's not I think I always will either

583
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: do like a really obscure character or like a very

584
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: popular character where I'm like, this is just gonna get buried,

585
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: and like I'm sure if I look up like by

586
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: Cosplay New York Comics, there were like, yeah, three hundred

587
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: other people in that costume. Like I'm not gonna find myself.

588
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, fun stuff stuff please. Yes, Well,

589
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll get to talk more about this soon, and

590
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 3: we are. We're trying to get Joey in on our

591
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: final Twilight viewing extravaganza, so hopefully that will happen.

592
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: I will be there, It will happen.

593
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: Yes again, am I somebody who's good at planning things

594
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: in advance?

595
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 4: No, will it happen?

596
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: Probably there's a good chance it's gonna happen, so I

597
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: say it will.

598
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I think we all want it enough that it will

599
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: happen in one way or another.

600
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: But I'm so looking forward to that. And thank you

601
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: again for being here.

602
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: Of course, anytime, do my Samantha and Prussia next time

603
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: for the entire episode?

604
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: How long it takes before.

605
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: We should hear her voice?

606
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: She's got a good like.

607
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Halloween voice, right, now.

608
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, Samantha, wherever you are, feel better.

609
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Speaker 2: Thanks.

610
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Speaker 4: Halloween is rough.

611
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh. I actually got swine flu on

612
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Halloween in college ones and now every Halloween and I

613
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: was quarantined, And now every Halloween I eat macaroni and

614
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: cheese because that's the first thing I could eat on Halloween,

615
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, I can finally

616
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: eat again.

617
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: Anyway, it was I like the year that swine flu

618
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: there was like the swine flu epidemic. Yeah, because I

619
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: think I also, I don't think it was on Halloween,

620
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: but I had swine flu like during the fall that year.

621
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Speaker 4: I was in elementary school at the time.

622
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: But.

623
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Speaker 2: Well I was in college.

624
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: That was the time. That was the time I forgot

625
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: I Sometimes I'm like, oh, oh yeah, there was like

626
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: a whole other that happened.

627
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Speaker 6: But it was yeah, because I remember the moment being like,

628
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: how this is crazy that I got this this illness.

629
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 6: This is like I'm part of a cultural moment. And

630
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 6: then of course COVID had to Like COVID came in.

631
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Speaker 6: It was like, oh, that was a funny little quarantine

632
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: you had. Then let's look at this one.

633
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Anyway, I hope every all your listeners

634
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: are well.

635
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: This house.

636
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I hope.

637
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: Nobody is sick. I'm so sorry. It's rely is the

638
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: worst time to I always get sick the weekend after Halloween,

639
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: but like that's the I'm hoping it'll hold off until then.

640
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: This year, we'll see, you know, Jack and Con has

641
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: what we call the kon crud.

642
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: The con crud. Yeah, yeah, we got that two. I didn't.

643
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: I somehow didn't get it this year, knock on one.

644
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how, but I did have a friend

645
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: who like had made a TikTok about it and was like,

646
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm waiting until I get sick. And then

647
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 3: the next day I got sick. So I'm like, I'm

648
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: just I'm just not saying anything. I'm not gonna jinx it.

649
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it.

650
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: No.

651
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah again, I've somehow once again, this is my month

652
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: of being out in public and costumes almost every weekend,

653
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: every weekend, not almost every weekend every weekend. So knock

654
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: on one, my immune system will will hold up at

655
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: least next four days.

656
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: But we'll see. Yeah.

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00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: I used to think it's because a lot of the

658
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: characters that cosplayed had clubs and a mask, and maybe

659
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: that's why.

660
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: I didn't get it.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what I was I was excited to do

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Speaker 3: when I told her this year, because I was like,

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Speaker 3: I can just mask and not Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any truth to that at all,

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Speaker 1: but let's say, who is to say, alright, alright, well, yes,

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Speaker 1: happy Halloween, Happy Halloween. I know it's already happened by

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Speaker 1: the time you listen to this, but hopefully it's good.

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Speaker 4: It could still be Halloween.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of people who.

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Speaker 2: Are doing next weekend, the weekend after Halloween.

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Speaker 3: There's this one guy on TikTok that I always see.

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Speaker 3: He's very funny, but he made a video being like,

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Speaker 3: why Halloween is one day this year? Should I shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be happy to go to Halloween parties on November first?

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Speaker 3: Screw that. I want to go to Halloween parties like

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Speaker 3: through Thanksgiving, all of the Halloween parties. I don't who

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Speaker 3: who wants there to be less Halloween parties. I was

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Speaker 3: so excited that Halloween's a Friday this year, so I

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Speaker 3: have like, yeah, November, I am going to a November

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Speaker 3: first Halloween party, and I'm very excited about it. Let's

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Speaker 3: go open that weekend as well. You know exactly you

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Speaker 3: want there to be less Halloween.

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Speaker 4: What's there to be less Halloween?

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Speaker 2: Not me?

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Speaker 3: By holiday?

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Speaker 2: It is agreed, hard agree. Perhaps this is part of

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Speaker 2: why we like cosplaying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know no common themes on this episode at all,

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Speaker 3: totally not Yeah, And.

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