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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode four sixty six.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is presented

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Speaker 1: to you by a boost Mobile, and we are fresh

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Speaker 1: off the heels of one of the greatest games in

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Speaker 1: the history of the NBA, one of the greatest collapses

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Speaker 1: in the history of major American sports, one of the

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Speaker 1: wildest sporting events that I have ever watched. There are

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Speaker 1: you could do a twelve hour podcast on this game

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Speaker 1: and not adequately cover everything. We will do our best

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Speaker 1: to cover it over the next hour or so. Here

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Speaker 1: also a few programming notes. From now through the end

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Speaker 1: of the World Cup, our episodes will be coming out

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Speaker 1: timeline because the TV show is on from ten am

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Speaker 1: to noon every day, so that is a programming note.

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Speaker 1: The other programming note, Tomorrow's show will be a lot

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Speaker 1: of World Cup Team USA and general World Cup preview,

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Speaker 1: along with a Game five preview, And if the Knicks

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Speaker 1: wrap this thing up in five on Saturday, we might

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Speaker 1: do an episode on that'll come out Monday rather than Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So all of that are the programming notes, which is

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Speaker 1: If you subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, or and or YouTube demandsday,

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Speaker 1: good morning, how are you? You are adopted Spurs fan?

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Speaker 1: I guess good evening, afternoon. I just get a little

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Speaker 1: demond say, I get a little robotic on certain things

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Speaker 1: doing the pod, like I think the time I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say good morning. I did it with Ty Butler last

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Speaker 1: week twice I kept calling yeah, I kept yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so the I just you know, I get a little

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Speaker 1: bit of autopiloted. You are an adopted Spurs fan. Yes, you,

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Speaker 1: at least I think that's for me. Say what they

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Speaker 1: have going on as a whole? Yeah, so how are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing this afternoon? Oh? That that was rough?

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Speaker 1: That was rough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that that is a big that's

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Speaker 2: a big collapse. And yeah, shout out to the Knicks. Though,

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Speaker 2: I'm really happy for the Knicks some of their fans

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Speaker 2: that do think need to chill out a little bit

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Speaker 2: around the world and then why but.

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Speaker 1: It is a very very to me likable team, the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: those players, and it is such a team. And josh

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Speaker 1: Hart earnestly and honestly saying thank you og An Andobi

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Speaker 1: for saving me from basically a lifetime of heartache and

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Speaker 1: pain was very real. And josh Hart was emotional after

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Speaker 1: the game, not in a we one way, but in

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Speaker 1: a I almost cost my team. It's that that to

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Speaker 1: me was deeper than I almost cost my team that

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Speaker 1: that would if they would have lost that game. That

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Speaker 1: was the type of I think, whether he was thinking

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Speaker 1: this consciously or not, it was a I almost defined

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Speaker 1: my entire basketball life. There are certain plays that just

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Speaker 1: will be, you know, our remembered as who you are,

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Speaker 1: fair or not, because they're so they stand out in

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Speaker 1: that play defining potentially as basketball life, it's something that

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Speaker 1: will be forgotten by most people within days. It's really remarkable.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get all into the game, every angle of

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Speaker 1: it in just a moment. First strate the voicemail brought

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Speaker 1: to you by boost Mobile. The Commanders have debuted a

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Speaker 1: team dog. I did not know that speaking of dogs,

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Speaker 1: folks falling for Ai nonsense, Chris or Kirk Kurbstreet did

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Speaker 1: not have his dog with him courtside at the game.

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Speaker 1: Do not believe the picture you're seeing on the internet.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift sits court sided MSG. People got mad, I

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Speaker 1: guess because everybody gets mad at Taylor and Mexico South.

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Speaker 2: As the Calves a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: So it was just like, wow, it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a streak. Can I defend Taylor's swift for a moment?

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Speaker 1: It does appear she has a history of being a

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Speaker 1: Knicks fan, but her soon to be husband is a

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Speaker 1: is you know, like, this isn't there teams? I don't

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Speaker 1: I understand more than if she was all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden wearing a Spurs jersey, that would have been you know,

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Speaker 1: in the first game of the World Cup at halftime

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Speaker 1: actually live right now, all right, demons? The Knicks come back,

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Speaker 2: Amazing game last night Showtime. I guess didn't start off amazing.

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Speaker 2: The Spurs were leading by twenty nine points to at

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Speaker 2: were down twenty nine and clawed back. How do you

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Speaker 2: think that you remember this as a comeback or a collapse?

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Speaker 1: I am sorry to be take the I guess glass

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Speaker 1: half empty side of this, but in sports there are

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Speaker 1: comebacks and in sports there are collapses. Twenty eight to three,

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Speaker 1: which is what this is being compared to in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, was a comeback. Atlanta made a few mistakes,

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Speaker 1: but Atlanta wasn't turning the ball over left and right.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta was not making an error after error. There are

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Speaker 1: things they could have done well better, But that was

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Julian Edelman and the New England Patriots coming back.

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Speaker 1: Once upon a time, the Chiefs were down twenty four

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Speaker 1: by the Texans. The Texans, with the lead, fumbled a kickoff,

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Speaker 1: faked a punt, kicked a terrible field goal, did everything

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Speaker 1: wrong you can do. That was a collapse. The San

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Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs collapsed in epic historic fashion. And there is

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Speaker 1: there are supporting actors in the collapse, and then there

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Speaker 1: is the main character of the collapse. Supporting actor in

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Speaker 1: the collapse, Mitch Johnson, who froze, who flatly didn't seem

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Speaker 1: prevent it from happening. He watched a twenty nine point

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, only used one timeout, then watched a

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Speaker 1: get whittled because they were up fifteen going into the fourth,

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Speaker 1: and then added five points so the Spurs were up

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Speaker 1: a disastrous outcome, but you might be able to avoid it.

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Speaker 1: That sense of well maybe the faster we go, the

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Speaker 1: better it'll be. Like the it felt to me like

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to acknowledge it. Watching it, it felt

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Speaker 1: be fine, and it will correct itself. And it never

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Speaker 1: corrected itself. So he was a supporting actor in the collapse.

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Speaker 1: De Aaron Fox, who is getting torched today for taking

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Speaker 1: that layup, is a supporting actor in the collapse. Now,

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Speaker 1: you cannot, after you get the loose ball with fifteen

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Speaker 1: seconds left, shoot that layup unless you're certain you're going

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Speaker 1: to make it. That is a grievous error. Okay. With

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Speaker 1: that said, the idea that he was going if he

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Speaker 1: hadn't done that, he could have dribbled out the clock

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Speaker 1: or something is utter nonsense. He shot the layup with

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Speaker 1: ten seconds left. I it was he was. He could

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Speaker 1: have had to hit some free throws. Obviously, that was

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Speaker 1: a bad, bad play by him, But he is also

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Speaker 1: getting torched for doubling Brunson on the very next play

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Speaker 1: when I believe that was a coaching point. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he freelanced there. I think that's what the play

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Speaker 1: Dearon Fox screwed up. He had some bad turnovers. The

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Speaker 1: But he is a supporting actor in the collapse. The

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Speaker 1: main character of the San Antonio Spurs collapse is the

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Speaker 1: only guy it can be, the guy who's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the best player in the world. And in the

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Speaker 1: second half of that game, after trash talking and what

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Speaker 1: the kids would call or a farming and letting everyone

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Speaker 1: know how in his head, how in their head he was,

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Speaker 1: he went three for fourteen, looked absolutely winded, and in

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Speaker 1: a fourth quarter where Stefan Castle, who's younger than him,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Harper, who's younger than him, went two for two

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Speaker 2: That doesn't circle back to Mitchetal like with Wimby being

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Speaker 2: in the game and being gassed, like they had that

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Speaker 2: were there were there were opportunities throughout the game for

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Speaker 2: like he ate it up tired.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely accurate, that's accurate. That is it is crazy that

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Speaker 1: Mitch Johnson didn't find him more than three. In the

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Speaker 1: first half, he played twenty one of twenty four minutes.

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Speaker 1: They were up at halftime twenty seven points. That seems crazy.

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Speaker 1: In the third quarter, he played eleven of twelve minutes.

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Speaker 1: They were up twenty nine at one point in that quarter.

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Speaker 1: That seems crazy. And in the fourth quarter, obviously he

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Speaker 1: was a screw up by the coach. I understand that,

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Speaker 1: but fatigue is not why he missed those free throws.

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Speaker 1: He missed those free throws. I mean, I'm sure maybe

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Speaker 1: it contributed, but he got tight and that second free

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Speaker 1: throw didn't even look like his form, like he let

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Speaker 1: the ball go weird. And then it looked Wilde's pointed

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Speaker 1: this out and he was right. It looked a lot

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Speaker 1: like how he shot the potential game winning jump shot

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Speaker 1: where he fell and was in Game two and he's

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Speaker 1: just kind of like hoping for it to go in.

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Speaker 1: It is they were. He was playing unbelievably. He had

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Speaker 1: thirteen points in the first quarter. He's living in the paint.

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Speaker 1: And then Mitch Johnson classic one by me Chin checks him.

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Speaker 1: Dirty play, flagrant it should be called, and Wimby does.

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Speaker 1: Wimby first taunted him on the way up the court,

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Speaker 1: which is what made Mitch lose his temper, and he

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Speaker 1: hits him, and then Wimby sits up clapped points in

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Speaker 1: his head, and from that moment forward was bad. That

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Speaker 1: go ahead. Demontsey looked like, you want to say something.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, Mitchell Robinson, but yeah, you that's

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Speaker 2: when you think they can.

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Speaker 1: Oh did I say, Mitch Johnson, Yeah, Mitch Johnson's coach.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Johnson didn't elbow him. Mitch rob Thank you, Mitchell Robinson.

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Speaker 1: I so that was a massive moment in the game.

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Speaker 1: The other one was the moment. And this was unlike

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Wimby stuff these playoffs. This was unlucky,

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Speaker 1: This was unintentional. This was just basketball. But it happens.

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Speaker 1: The flagrant he committed was the start of the Knicks comeback.

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Speaker 1: I'm like I'm glad you didn't see this and you

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00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: didn't bet it too, And at halftime he finally reaches

429
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: out and he's like no, no, no, He's like, I had

430
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: already bet the Knicks before you had texted, and I'm like,

431
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, well we're both ruined here. Then the

432
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: Knicks start, the Knicks are coming back. We're texting each other.

433
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, this is insane. Can't believe we're alive. Blah

434
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: blah blah. And then the Knicks win and I text

435
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: him after the game, like the little like sell it,

436
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: like the bottle popping emojis, or the celebration all the

437
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: celebration emojis, congrats all of it, and he just dryly

438
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: writes back, I had minus two. Good, Like it's like

439
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I didn't not not your old buddy Nick. Great, we

440
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: had to. That was a tough one. Oh yeah, it's

441
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: a really yeah, really a brutal one. Really a brutal,

442
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: brutal spot. I want to see did he send me

443
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: a voice memo. He's a big voice memo guy. Oh

444
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: hold on, oh no, But so this is the just

445
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: to give it. I just want to again, I want to

446
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: paint the picture for the audience, because all this guy

447
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: does is play poker and best sports. He texts me

448
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: prior to this, and then we'll get to the game.

449
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: I just think you guys will like it. He kept

450
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: telling me to go He always says go all in,

451
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: telling me to go all in on the the Stanley Cup,

452
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the Knights in Game one, the Las Vegas Knights, and

453
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't you guys know, I don't follow hockey. I'm

454
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: not into it. They won in historic fashion, and I

455
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: get in the middle of the night this text. So

456
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: I just can't believe. I needled that I needled my

457
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: dear friend. I felt so bad. All right, let's talk

458
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: about the Knicks.

459
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: Would have been easy for the for the Knicks to

460
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: waiver early. Cat came out with two fouls. The Spurs

461
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: made the most threes and a half in Finals history,

462
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: but nobody would have blamed them for packing it in.

463
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: But they came back, got it done. Brunson said, one

464
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: word captures at all believe. And so New York has

465
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: pulled off some crazy comebacks this year. But did you

466
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: see this one happening at any point?

467
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: So first, let me go to the cat early fouls.

468
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I thought they were tough calls. The first one I

469
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: hated to see. It probably was a foul, but you

470
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: just hate that forty five seconds into the game. The second,

471
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: the one that the Spurs challenged and got overturned. I

472
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: was stunned was overturned and turned into a foul on cat.

473
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I could have seen them chat like it being overturned,

474
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: no foul on Wimby. I was stunned. It was turned

475
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: into a foul on cat and that, obviously for a

476
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: time being, looked like it was, you know, the key

477
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: moment of the game. The Knicks all of a sudden

478
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: are playing Jeremy Sohan and Hock Porty and everything is

479
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: thrown off. Mitch Robinson's dying out there, but more relevant

480
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: was this demons. I felt like the Knicks. I felt

481
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: like the first half of yesterday's game was one of

482
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: the first times we've ever seen the Twitter algorithm maybe

483
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: swing a Finals game. Because here is my here's my

484
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: theory on it. And I said it after Game three

485
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: because I thought the officiating in game two was egregious.

486
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: I thought the officiating in Game three was not great,

487
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: but wasn't the reason the Knicks lost. But Mike Brown

488
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: talked about it, and then it became the huge story

489
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: and all it's all Knicks fans could talk about. I

490
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: think because some of that was Twitter algorithm. The building

491
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: was so caught up in the officiating immediate that it

492
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: felt to me like the Knicks got caught up in

493
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: the officiating and weren't playing their game even though their

494
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: free throw in the first half. Knicks fans are just

495
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: beside themselves were the first half officiating. In the first half,

496
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: the Spurs shot six free throws and the Knicks shot

497
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: twenty three, and Knicks fans were livid with the refs

498
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: just over there and listen, they did miss the goaltend,

499
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: but I would have missed that too, because I also

500
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: thought that that was a lob by Alverado, not uh

501
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: Jo it looked like but yeah, no, I'm saying it.

502
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: It didn't look like a lob on the replay for me.

503
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, in real time, I thought he was

504
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: throwing theob to Mitchell Robinson. No, I in real time,

505
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was a lob. But regardless, so the

506
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: Knicks got right or wrong. The officiating stuff really distracted

507
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: the Knicks in the first half and threw them off

508
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: and Cat like Cat's foul trouble was a Jit problem.

509
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: But then I just think they got too caught up

510
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: in that. So that's first thing. Second thing is and

511
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: this is such a testament to the Knicks. I'm not

512
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna act like I thought they were in good shape

513
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: down twenty seven, but at no point did I think, well,

514
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: this is just dead and done over. And the moment

515
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: the so the Spurs get up twenty nine, Wimby commits

516
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: that unlucky flagrant, and then the Knicks go on the

517
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: only real run they went on the whole game. Other

518
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: than this thing I'm about to show you here, the

519
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: best run the Knicks had was eight to zero. They

520
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: didn't go on some insane elongated run except for down

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00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: twenty nine, they went on a thirteen nothing run to

522
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: cut it to sixteen. That was the stage of the

523
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: game that Barkley was just killing the Spurs, because the

524
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: Spurs shots during that thirteen oh run were Kelton Johnson

525
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: miss on the inside and miss tipping. Then Champenni missed

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00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: three seven seconds into a shot clock, Harper missed three

527
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the shot clock. Uh, Dearn Fox turnover,

528
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: the cell missed three twelve seconds into the shot clock,

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00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Kelton Johnson missed three eleven seconds into the shot clock,

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00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Fox missed three late in the shot clock. Uh. And

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00:37:52,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: then Dylan Harper turnover. And that's that and the Knicks

532
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden are down sixteen. It was those

533
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: five threes in a row. It was seven possessions of

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00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: five threes and two turnovers that let the Knicks back

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00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: in it. As soon as that happened, Demonse I thought

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: they were alive. I was like, okay, Like fifteen is

537
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: nothing for this team. I really felt that way. And

538
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: it is noteworthy that last night was the fifth time

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00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: in the last two years the Knicks have been down

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00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: twenty in a playoff game, and one the rest of

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00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 1: the league over the last two years. Demonse went down

542
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: twenty in a playoff game is four and sixty seven.

543
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: The Knicks are five and three. It's unbelievable. So that's

544
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: the Then let me add to it, because they were

545
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: down fifteen at the end of the third, but then

546
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: at the start of the fourth the Spurs bar on

547
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: a five zero run and got up twenty. How about this.

548
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: As of three weeks ago, since two thousand and three,

549
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: there had been two fourth quarter playoff fourth quarter twenty

550
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: point comebacks in the playoffs in the As of three

551
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago, there had been two twenty plus point playoff

552
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter comebacks in the last twenty three years in

553
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: the NBA. The Knicks have done it twice in the

554
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: last month. Down twenty in the fourth quarter of a

555
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: playoff game, there was there. There was one in like

556
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, one in twenty fourteen, both in the first round.

557
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: The Knicks were down twenty two with seven and a

558
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: half left to the Cavs and down twenty with nine

559
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: and a half left in the finals in the swing

560
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: game of the finals. And what they did, and this

561
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: is where I want to give them all the credit.

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00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: Here's how they came back. Demons down twenty nine and

563
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: a half left Alvarado three, bridges lay up Towns three.

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00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: That was the Town three where he almost could have

565
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: got called for an offensive foul, kind of kicked his

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00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: leg out and fell. So it's just a little eight

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00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: to zero run, all right. So now they're down twelve.

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00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Then Castle goes to the line, hits a couple free throws,

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00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: so it's fourteen. Then Og hits the three. Was it

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00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: the I think it was the three, I'm not sure

571
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: which one it was, the one where he got the

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00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: bounce pass or not. Og hits a three and then

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00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: Towns and this was the moment I thought that I

574
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: thought the Knicks are gonna fucking win this game. When

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00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: Town's got the ball in the corner, Pump faked, got

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00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Wimby up a little bit, then drove on him, got

577
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: to the basket and kind of fell back and shot.

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00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: They're down nine with six and a half left, and

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00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh that, I think they're gonna win. They're

580
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: down nine, there's plenty of time. Then two more Castle

581
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: free throws, so it's eleven. Then it's brunts and free throws.

582
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Brunson layup OG three. This this OG three was the

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00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: one where he got the pass. It was like kind

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00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: of a soft pass that bounced to him. He had

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00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: to regather it in the corner. He hits it. Now

586
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: they're down four and there's four and a half minutes left. Finally, mercifully,

587
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: Mitch Johnson's like, you know what, let's talk about it.

588
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: Time out, time out, and they come out and to

589
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: his credit, fox three. So like that was a you

590
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: know that huge play down seven. Alverado does the little

591
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: spin move in the lane, gets the layup down five,

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00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Wimby comes back, hits the only jump shot hits. I

593
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: think the whole second half that eighteen footer up seven. Okay,

594
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: we're fine. Alverado, Jose Alverado, who they got at the

595
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: deadline for two second round picks, who had played zero

596
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: playoff minutes with Jalen Brunson. They had had zero minutes together.

597
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: It's I and Brunson. In fourth quarter, Bridges benched Alverado three.

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00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Next time down the court, Brunton hits the three on Wimby,

599
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: which was a unbelievable play, Wimby guarding him. Now it's

600
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: a one point game. Then Fox turnover, Josh Hart miss layup.

601
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did that happen? And then Og

602
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: fouls Wimby and Wimby goes to the line, misses them both.

603
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: Brunton comes down himself, has the little kind of fancy

604
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: footwork in the lane, scores and they're ahead. And then Castle,

605
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: to his credit, makes the free throws. And we've talked

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00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: about the end of the game. I guess we had.

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00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: You know what we haven't really talked about. I guess

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00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: the fucking Og Tippett. Yeah, it's been forty minutes. I

609
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: I I mean, go ahead.

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00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: You said that OGI will get a statue in front

611
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: of the MSG for this game if they win. But

612
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: do you think that he'll also get finals MVP. He's

613
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: at plus three hundred right now. Brunson is at minus

614
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: one sixty. I kind of hinted at this in the

615
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: last part and yeah, you think.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about it at forty to one.

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00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think I mean, and do you see

618
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like bag On Brunson. I know

619
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: you like, don't have to dim to Brighton. But yeah,

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00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: without Og and Andobi, what are they in this series?

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00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: And without Jalen Brunson? Where they in the series? Is

622
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: it the same thing? Are they both at the same value?

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Speaker 2: I think Og at this point is the more valuable

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00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: player to the team.

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00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: So I disagree that he's the more valuable player because

626
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Brunson has been I mean even yesterday he scores five

627
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: straight points to give them the lead in the final

628
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: two minutes. He is the engine of their offense. Okay,

629
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Speaker 1: you can argue OG's been better in this series. But

630
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: to answer your question, what are they without either one

631
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: of them? They just got swept. Yeah, like the so

632
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: the in that regard, but that Og tip in. Yeah,

633
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: what I said was I if the Knicks win the title,

634
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: I think they should invent the first ever dual statue

635
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: where on one side of the statue is Og with

636
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: I think with his left hand blocking dearn Fox and

637
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: then if you go to the other like it's it's

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00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: two OG's that share a back essexually, and on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the statue is Og with his right

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Speaker 1: hand doing the tipping the It's there are It's the

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00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: biggest shot in the NBA this decade. I think the

642
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Speaker 1: single biggest shot this decade was the Kawhi game winner,

643
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Speaker 1: like the Yeah, Toronto Kawhi Game seven game winner. I

644
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Speaker 1: think that's the biggest shot since twenty sixteen. This is

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Speaker 1: now bigger and it can go toe to toe with

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Speaker 1: Again they're different, but the Kyrie shot, it doesn't. The

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Speaker 1: Ray Allen shot is in a separate category only because

648
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Speaker 1: if he misses the season so it didn't win. It

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00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: didn't win the game, but they were down three. It

650
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Speaker 1: if he misses the sea, the championship's over, you know.

651
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: So like that shot was definitionally too, if he misses it,

652
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: a different team wins the title. And so this one

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00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: we don't know. If Og doesn't get this, it's still

654
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: to two, but it is the execution on it the instincts,

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00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: the athleticism, the burst, the finesse, the touch, it's just

656
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Speaker 1: as good as it gets. So if he is the

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: No, I mean he went untouched, which it was a crazy,

659
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: crazy part. I feel like somebody should have been on him.

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00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: And so people are blaming Fox for that. But I

661
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: and I we don't know. If Fox freelanced, if he

662
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to double, then that's a grievous error. It

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00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: looked to me like that was the play call and Brunson.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons, if you remember Demons

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00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,440
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666
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: for taking too long down one. Remember Fox just dribbled

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Speaker 1: for a minute and then Wimby shot at the buzzer.

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00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: They the knicks went immediately, which allowed for if Brunton

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Speaker 2: Happenin the Brunson where he took this shot and dragging

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00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Wimby out to the three point line, I think also

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00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: helped Ognanobi because it honestly was not a great shot.

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00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: Was not a great shot, but it gave his guys

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Speaker 2: a chance to go in there and make something of it.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a great shot. But I thought it was

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Speaker 1: going in. I just tell you right now, I thought

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Speaker 1: Deman's eight, let's talk about after the Brunson. I'm sorry

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00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: the og tip in the Spurs final play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so, I forgot who's in bounding it, but

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00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: it looked when I saw it, like time, it kind

710
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: of seemed like it didn't go where it was supposed

711
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Speaker 2: to go. But yeah, Cat got his hand on the

712
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: ball and Castle had to wrestle around with it, couldn't

713
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Speaker 2: get a shot up.

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00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: And the thing is this that the scorekeeper screwed up

715
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: because the clock, since Cat started late, the spot should

716
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: have started right then. Luckily that didn't matter. That would

717
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: have been awful. Yeah, It's an unbelievable play by Cat

718
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: because Castle had broken free. Yes, Nicks, the Knicks understandably thought, Uh,

719
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna go to Wimby. Either they're gonna throw a

720
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: lob to Wimby or what I thought they were going

721
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: to do. Is the one thing that you would have

722
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: simply been at the mercy of is he gonna make it?

723
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: If they just throw a high inbound to Wimby near

724
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: the top of the key, He's gonna catch and shoot.

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00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: That's what I thought we were getting. I thought it

726
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: was gonna be the opportunity for the Wimby redemption.

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00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, with him being gassed. Bless you, that probably

728
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: was a smarter play.

729
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Dude was tired. But instead Wimby was the decoy. Castle

730
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: broke free, and I don't know what would have happened,

731
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: but you're absolutely right. The pass was well short because

732
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Towns just barely got his fingertips on it. And it

733
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: is a all time moment, just an all time moment

734
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: to and it's the only way you can have that

735
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: type of finish, the only way you can have that

736
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: that type of comeback is for every little break to

737
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: go your way alone along the way and for everybody

738
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: to do something for it. And listen, McHale Bridges, here's

739
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: the other thing that where I want to give the

740
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: Nicks a ton of credit. Mikal Bridges did not play

741
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: very well and got benched in the fourth quarter. Towns

742
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: was out of rhythm all game because of the foul trouble,

743
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: only took five shots and Josh Hart it smoked, you know,

744
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: a layup to take the lead, and they won anyway.

745
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: And we're going to do most of our Game five

746
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: preview in tomorrow's episode, but a lot of the conversation

747
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: here is what does you know how will the Spurs

748
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: recover from this? And what I don't know if people

749
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: are incorporating enough into, is not what that type of

750
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: loss does to the Spurs, but what type of what

751
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: that type of win does for the Knicks as far

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00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: as their belief in this series. Now, I do want

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00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: to ask you this question, Demansey before we move on,

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00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: because Draymond alluded to this on the postgame show. Should

755
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: the Spurs be worried at all that this loss has

756
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: a effect greater than this series, that this is a

757
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: loss that rattle next year? Yeah, just carry like this

758
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: is a loss that resonates for more than this season.

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00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: I do think, I do know. I think it's a fear,

760
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: but I think it also how you come into game

761
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: five and how they do their I think you can

762
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: kind of erase this, but it kind of it's a

763
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: twenty nine point deficit.

764
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 1: You can't erase it over one game.

765
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: But I do think that they could get to start

766
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: deal better about themselves that soon on Saturday.

767
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I think the only way to erase it is to

768
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: win the title personally, because now if you don't win

769
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: the title, fair or not, people are just gonna be

770
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: like Game two, we had the ball, we threw it away.

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00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: In Game four, were up twenty nine points. I I

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00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: just I hear are the things I wonder that I

773
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: am just this is you know, this is not hot

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00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: take broadcasting. This is just but honest curiosity. I wonder

775
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 1: how this game affects how the Spurs view May Johnson.

776
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: I wonder that, and I think that is a fair question.

777
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: I wonder how this game impacts how the young guys

778
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: on the Spurs view de Aaron Fox. I wonder that,

779
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: and I think that's a fair question. And I wonder

780
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: how the now three game ending screw ups near the

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00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: end of game. Screw ups by Wimby affect Wimby's belief

782
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: of I was built for this. Those are open ended

783
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: one like it. It could simply be you know, all

784
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: the guys are like man, Foxes are Vet. We wouldn't

785
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: be here without him, no problem. Mitch Johnson learns from it.

786
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: And this is the scene in the movie. You know,

787
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: this is Rocky one for Wimby, of Rocky losing to

788
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: steal line from Simmons, you know, and losing Topollo. Creed

789
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: is about to come back better than ever. It's certainly

790
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: on the board, but this is we can't Here's what

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00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to do. I don't want to overreact

792
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: to this, but we can't say that is the greatest

793
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: comeback in the history of the NBA Playoffs, the biggest

794
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: collapse in the history of the NBA Finals, and not acknowledge.

795
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: So that might stick to some guys. There might be

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: a lingering, longer effect on it. And it is I've

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00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,239
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Speaker 1: The only other, even semi noteworthy thing is if the

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Speaker 1: Spurs extend this series. And again, I don't expect the

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: league demands to ever actually punish Wimby for anything, but

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: it is noteworthy that thing we talked about about the

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: flagrant foul points unless they have rescinded, and I wouldn't

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00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: put it past them to rescind it on him. But uh,

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00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean it was gonna be going.

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00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: They were like, we just got to give them a flavorant,

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Speaker 2: but that wasn't flavoring.

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Speaker 4: But I mean it was yeah, technically yes, technically yes exactly,

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Speaker 4: And I understand we want there to be separate rules

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Speaker 4: for some reason for women, it was it was.

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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: An unlucky flagrant. But that's how that works. Sometimes we

823
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: can say we would like I would be fine with

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Speaker 1: by the way, I would be absolutely fine with demonse them,

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: said them having a third category of flagrant fouls and

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00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: call them flagrant zeros. Yeah, because we have flagrant and

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: those are the same just like flagrant one and flagrant

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: two have the in game as whether you get a

829
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: flagrant one or a flagrant two, the other team is

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00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: getting two free throws in the ball. The difference is

831
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: that I would be fine with them adding flagrant zero,

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00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: which is still two free throws in the ball, but

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: no for the play correct and I would say landing

834
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: zone flagrance and the one like Wimby got where everyone

835
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: knows that was an accident, like those should be flagrant

836
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: zeros and it shouldn't add your flagrant foul points. But

837
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: that's not how they have the rules written. Like, I

838
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: think that would be a fair adjustment. But and but

839
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: also guess what if if that were the case. He's

840
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: supposed to already have flat and so the I wonder

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Speaker 1: how much that's going to impact him. And I also

842
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: I just think he is and I made this point

843
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: a ton yesterday on TV. Victor Wominyama has not had

844
00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: consecutive excellent games this entire higher postseason. His best games

845
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. I'm gonna go through them just very quickly.

846
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: And this to me is the fatigue thing. This is

847
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: the he's just not ramping up enough. First game of

848
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs thirty five points, unbelievable. The next game is

849
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: the game he got the concussion. How so you're not

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01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna hold that against him obviously as far as the performance.

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Speaker 1: But in that game he suffered the concussion de monse

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Speaker 1: halfway through the second quarter. Up to that point he

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Speaker 1: had made one shot. He was not having a huge game.

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Speaker 1: The The next great game Victor win Minyama had in

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Speaker 1: these playoffs was Game three against Minnesota thirty five and

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Speaker 1: fifteen or thirty nine and fifteen with five blocks. The

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Speaker 1: game after that was the game he got thrown out,

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Speaker 1: but again that was midway through the second quarter. He

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Speaker 1: had made two shots, he had four points and was frustrated.

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Speaker 1: The next great game he had was the first game

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Speaker 1: back after he got thrown out, when he had twenty

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Speaker 1: seven seventeen and five. The game right after that the

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Speaker 1: closeout game against Minnesota nineteen points. Game one of the

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Speaker 1: Conference finals the game of his life, forty one and

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Speaker 1: twenty four. He doesn't have another great game until Game four.

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Speaker 1: He followed with his thirty three and eight. Then Game

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Speaker 1: five of that series was the game where he had

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Speaker 1: one field goal a quarter, was four for fifteen from

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Speaker 1: the floor. Game six unbelievable, twenty eight and ten and

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Speaker 1: didn't even have to play that much. Game seven the

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Speaker 1: team was dominant. He didn't do much at all. He

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Speaker 1: had twenty two and seven this series. He was spectacular

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Speaker 1: in Game three, absolutely ran out of gas in Game four.

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Speaker 1: He's yet too in his playoff career have consecutive great games,

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Speaker 1: and the Spurs are about to need him to have

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Speaker 1: three in a row. I don't think that bodes well.

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Speaker 1: We will do a Game five and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the series. Preview for Friday's episode also credit to me.

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Speaker 1: One game of the World Cup one exact score correct

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Speaker 1: two nil Mexico over South Africa Classic Category one by

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Speaker 1: me World Cup sharp Nick Wright. Uh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and add something for you here

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Speaker 1: because that the late game is South Korea Checchia one

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Speaker 1: one draw. I'm predicting a draw one one draw for

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Speaker 1: the late night game. That's why I think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: One draw. Uh but yeah, good job by me. I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy about that. All Right, we'll do a game

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Speaker 1: five and a full uh you know, end of finals

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Speaker 1: prediction and a little World Cup stuff in tomorrow's episode. Again,

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Speaker 1: please subscribe to the show. Different schedule during the World Cup.

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