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Even though we haven't physically held in our 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: hands yet, it's like we have Chuck in our dreams 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: so far. I can't wait to actually see and hold 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: this thing and smell it. And so should you, so 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: pre order now. It means a lot to us. The 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: support is a very big deal, So pre order anywhere 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: books are sold. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. So I'm Josh Clark and there's 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: Charles w Chuck Bryan over there, and this is Stuff 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: you Should Know. Don't don't do it, Dad, What is 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: this gonna do with the Olympics. It's it's it's equally stirring. 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: I thought you would have done the Olympic Games song. 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: That's what I started out doing, and then about two 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: duns into it, I realized they could not bring it 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: to mind. So I just wanted the Rocky theme instead. Uh, 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: you know. The Olympics, well, I don't know if they would. 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: They still be going on right now. I don't know. 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: They could have just wrapped up. Actually, it's kind of sad, 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: you know. It's sad for now. It will be encouraging later. 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I think the Tokyo Olympics, whenever they happen, are going 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: to be a global coming together and celebration of beating coronavirus. Yeah, 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: totally those ceremonies, yes, but from what I read, the 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Olympic flame is still alive and well in Tokyo. What 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: if the opening ceremonies had little, you know, corona crowns 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: running around and people smashing them with like big inflatable hammers. 35 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: And that's right. They tell the story of the of 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: the coronavirus pandemic through interpretive dance. It just has like 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: a big giant bat at the beginning, and exactly it's 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: the villain. Maybe plenty of villains in that one. That'd 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: be fun for sure, for sure. Um, so we're obviously 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: talking Olympic torches. If you hadn't guests or hadn't bothered 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: to look at the title of this episode, everybody. And 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited about this because it's it's a 43 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: just died in the wool s y s K episode 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: and that it's very niche. It's about one specific thing 45 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: that's a part of a much larger thing which we've 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: not yet done an episode on. Yeah, and the kind 47 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: of thing where one day, when you're watching an Olympic 48 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: ceremony again you see that flame. Yeah, you'll have that 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: that insider knowledge. Yeah, you'll think didn't did it, didn't 50 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: did do? Goodness. So, um, chuck, I didn't know much 51 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: about Olympic torches. I've seen a torch lighting or two 52 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: in my time on television only. Um, but there's a 53 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty interesting actually, the kind of the history 54 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: of it and how the things are made. I was 55 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: reading over like, um, I guess you'd call it like 56 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: a request for proposal PDF from like the London Olympics 57 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Committee from years ago. Um, basically saying hey, this is 58 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: a call out all designers who want to try their 59 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: hand at at UM designing the London Olympic torch. Here's 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: all the details you need to know. It was really 61 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: fascinating stuff, and we're going to convey that fascination post 62 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: taste of that RFC or of just torches. Maybe a 63 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: little bit of both actually, so uh, the history of 64 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: the torch we're talking. You know, you've got to go 65 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: back to Greece if you're going to talk about anything 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Olympic history wise, and if you go back far enough, 67 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear a story about Prometheus stealing fire from 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Zeus giving that to humans. That's how they say we 69 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: got fire. And in order to commemorate that, the Greeks 70 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: had these relay races like we all know and love, 71 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: except instead of passing a little aluminum baton, they would 72 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: pass live fire and flame via torch. Yeah, they would 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: set a cow on fire, push it to the next person. 74 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: I actually the one thing on Prometheus. I was looking 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: him up. So he was punished by Zeus um for 76 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: stealing fire and giving it, being a bad boy for 77 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: a naughty monty and Um he had his liver eaten 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: out by an eagle every day and because he was 79 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: an immortal titan. His liver would grow back each night 80 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: and then it would be eaten now even by an 81 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: eagle again the next day. That's so when I feel 82 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: these days and eagles eating your liver every day, yeah, 83 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: it is kind of yeah. So, but I mean, the 84 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I guess the the upshot of all this is that 85 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: the fire was extremely important to the Greeks and they 86 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: showed it off as much. So when they started having 87 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: Olympic Games UM back in I guess seven seventies six 88 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: BC UM, they wanted to make fire kind of a 89 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: prominent part of it, and so they they they celebrated 90 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: this theft of fire from Zeus by Prometheus by having 91 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: a torch relay where there was basically like um, like 92 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: today's baton relay marathons or runs or whatever you call them, 93 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: but it was with the torch and whoever reached the 94 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: end with their lit torch one that that relay race. 95 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: And that's how kind of the Olympic torch was born. Yeah, 96 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: And you know, the games back then were a very 97 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: big deal and that they would stop war, which is 98 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: something they loved to do, just to take part in 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: these games. And they had these runners. They call them 100 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: heralds of Piece that would go all through Greece saying, 101 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: you know, truce everybody, right, and they would hope they 102 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: don't get speared, and if they made it through, that 103 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: truce would remain all during the Olympics until the flame 104 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: is extinguished, and then they started spearing again immediately. Yeah. 105 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: And the point was so that anybody who wanted to 106 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: go watch the Olympics could make it through Greece um 107 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: unkilled to go watch and then make it back home unkilled, 108 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: hopefully too unkilled. Yea. Uh So, if you go back 109 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: to Olympia, there was an altar there dedicated to Hera, 110 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: who was the goddess of birthen marriage. And at the 111 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: beginning of those first Olympic Games, they would ignite a 112 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: called in at Harrah's altar and they would light it 113 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: with with a parabolic mirror. They call it a scaffia, 114 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: and it's sort of like you know an Archimedes deathray 115 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: where you are a magnifying glass or something where you 116 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: focus the sun down to that you know, single spot. 117 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: If you're a sadistic child, you burn ants that way. 118 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Should never ever do that. It's not nice. No, we 119 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: leave the ants alone, leave the ants alone, but they 120 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: would that's how they would ignite that initial flame, and 121 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: that flame the idea is that it stays lit throughout 122 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Yeah, so this is a pretty cool tradition 123 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: if you think about it. I mean, just because the 124 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Olympics have been around for so long today, the modern Olympics, 125 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: we kind of take this whole thing for granted. But like, 126 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: this is a pretty neat tradition that I guess just 127 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: came up out a whole cloth among the Greeks. And 128 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: so they were like, we're going to keep this going, 129 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: and they did for another thousand years while they did 130 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the Olympics. But then when the Olympics kind of died 131 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: out after a millennia, um, no millennium, the torch and 132 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: all of that stuff died out with it. Fortunately, the 133 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Greeks were a highly literate society and they wrote a 134 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff down and um it was rediscovered 135 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: when the Olympics were revived in the nineteenth century by 136 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: a guy named Baron Pierre de Kubertan, and he um 137 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: one of the things that he did was to say, um, 138 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: I really loved the Olympic Games. I'm not necessarily aware 139 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: that there was a torch relay or anything like that. So, um, 140 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna wait another thirty years or so before we 141 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: introduced the torch again. That's right. That came in n 142 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: and amstra Dam and there they had the cauldron on 143 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: fire on purpose, but there was they weren't relaying that torch. Still. 144 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: It took till ninety six in Berlin when Carl Deem 145 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: he was the Secretary gener role of the Organizing Committee 146 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: of the of the Games there and he said, hey, guys, 147 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: we gotta bring this back to to the O g 148 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: S and we gotta get that torch relay going, and 149 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: we gotta light it in Olympia and get it here 150 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: to Berlin. We gotta do it right. Yeah, he definitely 151 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: did it right for sure. I mean, not only was 152 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: like the whole thing revived, like the idea of the 153 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: torch relay, but igniting that torch in Greece and then 154 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: make having it make its way all the way to Berlin. 155 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool stuff. And from what I read that 156 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: was also right up the Nazis alley and that it 157 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of connected the Third Reich to the Great Greek 158 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: and Roman Empires. Um of your which they were super 159 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: into to try to legitimize themselves. UM, so they went 160 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: for it. Fortunately, that first Olympic torch, which we'll talk 161 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: more about the torches, um it did not have a 162 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: swastika anywhere on it, which is wonderful that they managed 163 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: to keep that off of there. I know that's kind 164 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: of surprising too, Huh. It is extremely surprising, but I 165 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: mean it really is genuinely surprising, and I'm like very pleased. 166 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: I was really pleased. I looked at pictures of that 167 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: torch with like one eye closed, just trying to find no, no, 168 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: just I was afraid I was gonna see it. I 169 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, and little by little I was like, 170 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: it's not there. So I was pleased by that. You 171 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: have been my eyes eyes. I just turned into tothe 172 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: from the end of Raiders that lost dark and melt. 173 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: So h the relay at the Winter Olympics. I think 174 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: it took until nineteen fifty two to introduce it at 175 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: the Winter Games, and they did not light it in 176 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: Olympia that year. They lit it in Norway because that's 177 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: where the skiing was born, so they thought they would 178 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: honor Norway in that way. But finally, finally, in nineteen 179 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: sixty four in Austria at Innsbruck, they said, we gotta 180 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: get it together, every addie, we gotta get on the 181 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: same page. We gotta go winter and summer and started 182 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: out in Olympia and relay that thing to wherever the 183 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: heck We're gonna have these games, that's right, And they did. 184 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: And I actually looked a little bit into the I 185 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: guess the nineteen fifty two games where um they lit 186 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: it in Norway. They lited it in the heart of 187 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: the home of nineteenth century Norwegian skiing legend Sandra Norheim. 188 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: It's either Sandra or Sandr so n d r E. 189 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: And he was apparently quite the daredevil skier. I saw 190 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: a quote about him that he was fearless and daring. 191 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: He ran straight down the most dangerous and challenging hills, 192 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: rudely waving his cap, which is made me love that 193 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: guy immediately. And I think those games ended up in Helsinki. 194 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: But well, there's a little nugget I'll drop in the 195 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: next uh segment here after we break. Oh, I can't wait. Well, 196 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: I've got another segment or another nugget on that this 197 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: there's one other time in history, when the Winter Olympic 198 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: torch was lit in the heart of the home of 199 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: nineteenth century Norwegian skiing legend Saandr Norheim was in Squa 200 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Valley in nineteen sixty. Because the Olympic committee couldn't get 201 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: their act together fast enough to organize the lighting ceremony 202 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: in Greece, so Norway stepped in again and said, she's 203 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: got a fireplace. We've seen it in action. He he yeah, 204 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: party at Sundry's house. I'm sure we're mispronouncing it, probably 205 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: so rudely waving his camp. Do you want to take 206 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: a break yet, Let's do it, all right, everybody, We're 207 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna take a break and we're gonna come back and 208 00:12:39,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: guess what we're gonna talk about Olympic torches some more, alright, chuck, 209 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: So let's talk about um, those r fps that thrilled 210 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: me so fully. Yeah. If you want to be the firm, 211 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the design firm that builds, designs and builds the torch, 212 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you gotta get in there and you've gotta submit your proposal. 213 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: You gotta Greece and palms. You gotta gotta tip the 214 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: right doorman, if you know what I mean. You have to. 215 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: You have to spread many goats around. That's right to 216 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: the right people. No, I think. You just submit a 217 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: proposal and the Olympic Committee looks at it and they 218 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: sort of sit there like at the beginning of planes, 219 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: trains and automobiles, for three hours in silence, kind of 220 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: twiddling their thumbs, looking, looking, looking, and finally they say, 221 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: the bid goes to you. You win the assignment. You've 222 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: got to have a torch that looks great, of course, 223 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: and you've got to have a torch that works, because 224 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: this thing has gotta it's gotta stay lit under any 225 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: condition it can be. You can get this thing through 226 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: a hurricane, supposedly, and it'll have to stay let. Yeah, 227 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty serious about this thing not going out. Um, 228 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: So they build in redundancies. UM. Oftentimes there's a couple 229 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: of different flames working in conjunction to to make this 230 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: thing work. Um. But in addition to the actual feel 231 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: of it and the look of it, like, you want 232 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: to make it so that anybody, anybody basically alive on 233 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Earth could carry it. So it's gotta be lightweight typically 234 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: UM I saw usually about a pound or so. UM. 235 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: It has to all most of the ones in that RFP, 236 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: the Golden RFP for from the London to Olympics. It 237 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: had a list. Actually, you gotta look this up, everybody 238 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I cannot remember. Just search um London Olympic Torch Proposal 239 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Design Proposal. I'll bet that would bring up this PDA anyway, 240 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: some sleepy corner of the internet worse. Yeah, I found it, 241 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: and I'm proud as punch about that. But um, I 242 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: had a list of like some of the specs of 243 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: past torches, and most of them seem to be around 244 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: one to two pounds. This article from How Stuff Works 245 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: is three to four, but I saw one to two pounds. 246 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Maybe that's without being fully loaded with fuel. Sure, And hey, 247 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: if you can carry something this two pounds, you can 248 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: probably put two hands on it and manage the four pounds, 249 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: although they like you to hold it with one one hand. Yeah, 250 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: just because it looks cooler. Uh. These these modern torches 251 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: that we're looking at, we're sort of originated at those 252 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: Squall of Valley games in nineteen sixty when a Disney 253 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: artist named John Hinch designed this, you know, sort of 254 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the first modern torch that everyone else said, yeah, that's 255 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: a good idea. That's what we should do. We should 256 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: have fuel inside of it, and we should have some 257 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: backup flame inside of it. And they kind of function 258 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: like a like a camp stove. Sure, a fancy camp 259 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: stove basically is what it is. And then and we'll 260 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: get into the fuels and stuff. But in that there 261 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: is a liquid fuel that becomes a gas. Uh you know, 262 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: it's under pressure and then it comes out these tiny 263 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: little holes just like a camp stover, like a Colman lantern. Yeah, 264 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't know this. This is pretty cool. Um. 265 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: There are two two things that have to be designed 266 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: into it, well, a couple of things that have to 267 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: be designed into it. UM. In addition to being um 268 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: easy to carry by, basically anybody has to be very light, 269 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: has to be aerodynamic. Ergonomic, I think is another. If 270 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: you threw that word around in your bid, they would 271 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: probably be like, oh, this guy knows what he's talking about. UM. 272 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: But you you also have to at least as far 273 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: as London was concerned. But I got the impression that 274 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: this was a standard thing that you have to design 275 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: in a way to permanently deactivate it after it's one 276 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: time use, so that it can never be lit again. 277 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Which I thought was kind of cool. I bet you 278 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: could hack that though. Funny enough, I found another weird 279 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: corner of the Internet researching this one at Olympic Torch 280 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Repair dot Com, which is possibly the most niche retail 281 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: website I've ever seen in my life. They sell one 282 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: part and it is a part design to fix the 283 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta Olympic torch. And they don't use the words that 284 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: you will be lit again, But just from the pictures, 285 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: from the text, from everything that I'm seeing, I believe 286 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: this is a rogue website dedicated to making Atlanta Olympic 287 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: torches burn again after they've been purposefully disabled. Well, and 288 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: you might be laughing saying how much could this person 289 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: be making off this? But here's another little fun fact. 290 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: There are anywhere from ten to fifteen thousand of these 291 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: torches that are built. Uh if you'll notice when you 292 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: see these, you know, and they don't cover all of 293 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: this thing, or maybe they do in some dark corner 294 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: of the Internet. I'm sure somebody does cover might end 295 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: up doing it in the future as a hobby. Covers 296 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: each and every passing of the torch, but they don't 297 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: actually pass the torch. They light the other person's torch 298 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: and then they run away, and then you never the 299 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: camera doesn't hang on the person who just you know, 300 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: standing there with their torch, and you think, what happens 301 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: to those things? Well, you're allowed to buy it if 302 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: you want. The one from Japan this year was gonna 303 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: cost about six hundred, six hundred fifty bucks American. That's 304 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: a steel. Have you seen that thing? Yeah, it's good looking. 305 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: They're beautiful. Have you seen the overhead shot where it 306 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: looks like a cherry blossom. It's wonderful too. And that 307 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: is a price that's basically at cost. Because the a 308 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: the IOC nor the AOC can profit from the sale 309 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: of Olympic torches. That is not a side hustle for her. No, 310 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: so don't believe what the right says. She can't actually 311 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: make any money off of Olympic torchi. So um, that's 312 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: basically cost. And it turns out there's quite an aftermarket 313 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: for these things too. I think they're right now too, 314 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: complete collections for individuals in the world and another guy 315 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: that's close, and they cost anywhere from fifteen hundred four 316 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: thousand for the newer ones, fifteen to seventy grand for 317 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: older ones. And I think the pricest ever was that 318 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two Helsinki one eight hundred and eighty thousand 319 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: dollars because they only made twenty two of them, so 320 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: obviously rarity is is going to drive that price up. 321 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: The highest I saw was less than that is two 322 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand for the ninet in sixties Squaw Valley one 323 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: that Disney designer made um and I think I saw 324 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: like they made a hundred of them, so you'd have 325 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: to have some coin to to have a complete collection. 326 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: And that's a very niche collection as well. I mean, 327 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: and I have to say, like a lot of them, 328 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: you just they're not very pleasing to the eye. There's 329 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: some ug Olympic torches out there. I mean Mexico City is. 330 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: If it's not a hand whisk, I don't know what 331 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: it is. Well it is and it was cool it 332 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: actually according to the two thousand twelve London Olympics UH 333 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Torch RFP PDF, that is the longest I'm making t 334 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: shirts out of different pages. That is the longest burning 335 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: Olympic torch in the history of Olympic torches. Most of 336 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: these things are designed to burn ten or fifteen minutes 337 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: which is alarming if you're like, well, wait a minute, 338 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: we want the Olympic flame to burn out. But as 339 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: we'll see, these relays are actually super short. Um, this one, 340 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: the Mexico City torch, could burn up the thirty minutes. Dude. 341 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: I like this torch, the whisk. I think it looks great. 342 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: I think it looks like a whiskey. I don't think 343 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: it looks bad. I just think it looks like a 344 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: kitchen whisk and I can't think of anything else but 345 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: whipping cream when I look at it. I'm looking at 346 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: two different torches though, for Mexico, one looks like a 347 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: whisk and one looks like sort of like an Aztec club. 348 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: So there's two torches. Well, I don't know. I'm gonna 349 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: have to I'm gonna have to get to the bottom 350 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: of this because I'm seeing let me know what you find, 351 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna have to add it to my niche 352 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: website about Olympic torches. Oh goodness, so um, I don't 353 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: remember where we were going with that. Oh, you're talking 354 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: about the Tokyo one where you can buy it. So 355 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: when you when you have the torch, when your torch 356 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: relay is done. It's taken from you this able, put 357 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: in its packaging and then presented to you. If you've 358 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: vindicated you want to buy it, and if not, they 359 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: throw it into the nearest river. But I think that's 360 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: pretty cool that you can you get to buy it 361 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: if you want to, and it's disabled so you can 362 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: never let it again unless you know the guy who 363 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: runs Olympic Torch Repair. But one of the other things 364 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: too that they they has become kind of a thing, 365 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: especially in the last like thirty thirty years, maybe more 366 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: is sustainability built into these and you want to it's 367 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: not a requirement, but I get the impression that's exactly 368 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: where I got it from, that you you're probably doing 369 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: nothing but helping your bid if you have figured out 370 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: some sort of sustainable angle to it. Like the Tokyo torch, 371 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: which again it's just gorgeous rose gold looking, but it's 372 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: actually aluminum, and the aluminum is made from former temporary 373 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: housing that was used after the Fukushi a disaster to 374 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: how some of the residents who have been displaced the 375 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: strings there. Yeah, yes, I'm sure the person who designed 376 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: that was like, I got it. I got the thing 377 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: that's going to get we're gonna win this bid with 378 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: this and is it true now? But they don't know 379 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: I made no I shoot down airplanes in my spare time. 380 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: I have a bunch of them in my backyard. Now 381 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: I know what to do with I like to be 382 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: from the top better. Yeah, it's Gord's on the side. Yes. 383 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: And one of the things I mean we talked about 384 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: flames and then being redundant um the the you don't 385 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: want that flame to go out. So one of the 386 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: things that that that torch has is from each of 387 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: those rounded petals that looks like the petal of a 388 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: cherry blossom flower, provides a flame and they all come 389 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: together to to build one big flame. But because you 390 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: have five different smaller flames, that big flame, even if 391 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: it flickers or wins, it's never going to go out. 392 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: You've got five redundancies exactly. So the fuel they've used 393 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of things over the ears, because you want 394 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: something to burn bright, something that you can see during 395 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: the daytime. You want something that's not dangerous. But there 396 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: have been some dangerous torches over the years. They they've 397 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: used gunpowder, they've used olive oil, they used to use 398 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: something called hexamine, which is formaldehyde and pneumonia can't be 399 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: safe and uh, naphthaline. So in our soap episode, Chuck, 400 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: one of the things I didn't get to talk about 401 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: was that Fell's naptha laundry soap. Yeah you ever seen 402 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: that stuff? I don't think. So it's like this hips 403 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: terrific laundry soap that's old timey that they still make. 404 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: But naptha is benzene and it's actually really really bad 405 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: for you. So they're basically burning benzene in this stuff, 406 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: and you can all sorts of bad things can happen, 407 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: like your red blood cells can rupture. Yeah, that's no good. 408 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: You can also have nasty smoke, like in the case 409 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: of Atlanta's was pretty smoky. Uh in Fi D six, 410 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: they had magnesium and aluminum uh lighting the flame, and 411 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: there were chunks of flame that fell off. So you 412 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: don't want that either. You want something that burns clean, 413 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: that looks good. I think now they use propane and butane, 414 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense. Uh. You know that's 415 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: what you use in lighters and gas grills. Uh. And 416 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it works like a little 417 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: like a little camp stove. You've got this fuel being 418 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: pushed through a valve. There's a fuel reservoir, and then 419 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: you have all these little tiny openings just like a 420 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: camp camp stove will and once it squeezes through there, 421 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: it builds up that pressure. Then finally, once it's out 422 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: the other side, that pressure drops, turns into a gas 423 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: and it's ready to burn at a consistent rate. Right. 424 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: And again there's a couple of flames, typically one that 425 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 1: burns really hot but small that is almost like a 426 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: pilot light for the bigger ones in that there's five 427 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: of those things. And then you've got the bigger, brighter 428 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: flame that big and bold and just says in your face, world, 429 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: I'm the Olympic flame. Um. But it's much less stable. 430 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: It flickers a lot more in the wind, but it's 431 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: not going to go out because you get those pilot lights. 432 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: It's sort of like the understudy to the Broadway star. Yeah, 433 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: but the understudies really the one who's giving the star 434 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: all of the suggestions and notes that are making the 435 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: star a star. And uh, we'll get to the route 436 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: here in a few minutes. But this thing, you know, 437 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: goes a long way, and sometimes even across oceans, and 438 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: sometimes underwater, which is what happened in two thousand when 439 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: it went across the Great Barrier Reef very symbolically, and 440 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: they had a flare inside this thing to keep the 441 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: flame burning in the water, which is pretty amazing. Yeah. 442 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: Did you see video of that? Yeah? I mean I 443 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: saw it live. Oh you did, huh. I'm an Olympics guy. 444 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: I love that stuff. That's cool. I didn't see that. 445 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I like the Olympics too. I don't know if i'd 446 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: see him an Olympics guy. Okay, but you're an Olympic 447 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: torch RF guy. Yeah, thank you. That's way more at 448 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: my all, yeah, than than running around. Should we take 449 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: another break? Yeah, I think we've reached break time if 450 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: you ask me. All Right, we'll come back and we'll 451 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: talk about lighting this thing and then and the big 452 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: relay right after this. All right, Chuck, So we're back 453 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: to talk about the actual lighting of this thing. And 454 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: if you guys will remember, we talked about lighting the 455 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: torch using a para parabolic mirror to concentrate the sun's 456 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: raise all the way back in the seven seventies Specie Well, 457 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: when the Olympic organizers of the modern Olympics started bringing 458 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: the torch back. I guess what was his name, Carl Bernheim. 459 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I think he was so the German guy 460 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: from the Olympics. I believe he had this like that's 461 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: what he went right to it. He was also a 462 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: sports historian, by the way, which gives away why he 463 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: was so so privy to all this stuff. But he um. 464 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I guess since that time, every time we've lit a 465 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: torch from Olympia, they have used a parabolic mirror to 466 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: concentrate the sun's raise and they stick a torch in 467 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: there and it catches flame, and then there you have 468 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the official Olympic flame that will make its way from 469 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Olympia to the host city somehow, some way. Yeah, they 470 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: make a big show of it. They have an actor 471 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: dressed as a ceremonial priestess in these robes and like 472 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: the ancient Greeks, and they you know, they acted out 473 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: and uh the uh for the winner games, they actually 474 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the relay begins at the monument to the guy who 475 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: spoke up earlier, Pierre de uh Cobertine, who founded those 476 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: first games. But the Summer Games u a k a. 477 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: The other games are carried to a firepot at that 478 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: altar of was it Harra, Yeah, Harry Zeus's wife, sister 479 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: sister wife, and then the relay begins and you know 480 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: how this works out is determined at every Olympics. The 481 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: organizing committee determines the route. Uh, there's always some silly 482 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: Olympic theme. It's not always silly. Sometimes it's nice. But 483 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a big theme guy. No, you didn't like 484 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: the theme of the Olympics. What's it? I think you're 485 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna bring that up. That was the mascot. That wasn't 486 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: the theme. Oh, I thought it was both. I think 487 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 1: the theme was red knickery. It was the theme was 488 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: get or Done. I was looking online today because remember 489 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: they had those have talked about them before, those stainless 490 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: steel pickup trucks in Atlanta, and I was like, where 491 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: are those things now? And I could find nary any 492 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: evidence that they ever existed. So I don't know if 493 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: they scrub the internet, but uh, I know you're better 494 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: at the dark corners of the of the web. So 495 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll go in together and buy one. That 496 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: would be pretty awesome actually, So you know, like I said, 497 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: the route is determined by the committee. Um, sometimes it 498 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: goes from country to country on a plane. Sometimes it's 499 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: a train. There have been dog sleds, there's been motorcycles 500 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: and horseback And if you are a person who is 501 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: tasked with carrying this thing, like I think you have 502 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: to be able to go at least four hundred thirty 503 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: seven yards four d got to be at least fourteen 504 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: years old. I would like to throw our name in 505 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the hat quite frankly for a future Olympic Games. That'd 506 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: be fine. I'd be willing to carry it with you. 507 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: We could put a hand on it. Yeah, But um, 508 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're you've done something for the community, 509 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: or you're a notable human being, or or you or 510 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: you work for the company who's sponsoring the Olympics, right right, 511 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: you're a you're a sea level executive, which is absolutely true. 512 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: We're not kidding, no, no, And I mean like there's 513 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: sometimes hundreds, sometimes thousands of people who are involved in 514 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: this because I mean if if basically you're running, if 515 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: you're running like basically a football field and a half 516 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: and you're going you're bringing you're taking this thing kilometers, right, 517 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: You're like you need a lot of people to do that. 518 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people involved in the Olympic relay. 519 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people who you know, yeah, 520 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: I just kind of ended up there because they you know, 521 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: they were a sponsor. But there's also interesting people too. 522 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: There was in Um. Sometimes they're not even people, Buddy. 523 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: I was looking at the Pieong Chang two thousand and 524 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: eighteen Winter Olympics relay and there was a robot named 525 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: Hubo who was a torch bearer. And Hubo not only 526 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: carried the torch, Hubo drove the torch and like basically 527 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: a Doom Buggy with a human being in the passenger seat, 528 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: and then got out, approached a brick wall, almost fell over, 529 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: was righted by some other humans, cut through the brick 530 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: wall and then passed the torch through the whole. Hubo 531 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: had cut into the brick wall. That's the level of 532 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: zany nous that can be achieved with the with the 533 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: torch relay, because there's so many people involved. Can you 534 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: imagine being that guy? It's like, did you see the 535 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Olympics the other name the torch relay? Oh did you 536 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: carry the torch? No? I wrote in the Doom Buggy 537 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: of the robot right just looking very nervous. That was 538 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: a fail safe, you know, in case he went nuts. 539 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: That's pretty great. They also did um paragliding, the paragliding 540 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: the torch from one place to another. UM. It's pretty cool. 541 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Like people, they try to outdo each other. Each host 542 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: city tries to outdo the last. UM. I think Montreal 543 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: is the one that has has everybody beat. Oh yeah, 544 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: oh well yeah, let me go on. So in Montreal 545 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: hosted the Olympics and they figured out how to take 546 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: the flame transmit it into a radio signal. I'm still 547 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: not sure how they did this, shot that signal up 548 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: to a satellite and then beam the signal back down 549 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: from satellite to Canada where it lit another cauldron, another torch. 550 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: So they basically transferred the the energy from the Olympic flame, 551 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: shot it into space, and then transferred it back to 552 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: Earth and converted it back into flame. No one's ever 553 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: going to beat that. I think that's cute that you 554 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: bought that. Oh well, okay, I guess yeah. I hadn't 555 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: really thought that. You didn't see the guy he was 556 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: in the buggy. He was also behind there punching the button. 557 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: The button. It is a thing for sure, and now, 558 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: you hadn't really thought about that. So if you do 559 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: notice these people that are actually on the street carrying 560 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: these things, you'll notice they have security. There's actually a 561 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: medical team, there's plenty of media, they have extra torches 562 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: on hand because they don't want that thing to go 563 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: out on camera. And eventually it's gonna make its way 564 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: to the Olympic Stadium where the big secret. You know, 565 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: they keep it a big secret. Now who that final 566 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: individual is going to be. Um very much kept a 567 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: lid on because you don't want that getting out because 568 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 1: that's the big moment, and that's always a big deal. 569 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Whoever they choose for that final person to light the cauldron. 570 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: And there have been a lot of big, big moments 571 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: throughout the years, and I think Atlanta's when they came 572 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: in there, Janet Evans, she didn't even know who she 573 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: was going to hand it to and outcomes Mohammed Ali 574 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: and that was really one of the great Olympic moments. 575 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: I've watched it again today and I was like, why 576 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: am I crying with me? It is amazing to hear 577 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: that crowd when they figure out who it is at first, 578 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: and apparently no one, no one knew, like, um, uh, 579 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: maybe it was cost Us who was doing the Probably 580 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: cost Us, Yeah, I think it was because he hadn't 581 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: gotten Pink Eye that year, so he was still good 582 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: to get to be the commentator. Um, it was cost 583 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Us in somebody else and they they didn't know apparently. Um. 584 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: And I guess Dick eber Saul, who was a longtime 585 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: NBC executive, Um, have you read that book Live from 586 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: New York about Saturday Night Live? But I knew that 587 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: he was. He took over for a little while. Yeah, 588 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: he he figures big in there. And I can't remember 589 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: if he did a good job or a bad job, 590 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: but I have a good impression of him, so I 591 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: think he did get But anyway, um, he figures big 592 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: into that book. And that book is definitely worth reading. 593 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: It like goes up to maybe the mid to late eighties, 594 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: from the start to the mid to late eighties, and 595 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: it's all just like behind the scenes interviews and gossip 596 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: and oral history of of the whole thing is really interesting. 597 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, Dick Ebersol lobbied really hard to get Mohammed 598 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: Ali to be the guy because it was originally going 599 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: to be a vander Holy Field and holy Field actually 600 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: ran it for about ten ft and then handed it 601 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: off to Janet Evans. Yeah, and then Janet Evans took 602 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: it up this ramp and then all of a sudden 603 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: it looks like Janet Evans is going to be the 604 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: one to light it, and then all of a sudden, 605 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: at the top of the ramp, Mohammed Ali pops out 606 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: and the face and the crowd just goes nothing like yeah, 607 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: especially when he when he has it lit and he 608 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: like holds it aloft and his hand is trembling from 609 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: with Parkinson's trembler tremors, and um, they just are going bonkers. 610 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: Was It's just like you said, It's probably the all 611 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: time great Olympic moment as far as America is concerned. 612 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: A few other highlights in Barcelona ninety two, Who can 613 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: forget Paralympic archer Antonio Ribolo when he shot that fiery 614 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: arrow that was pretty sweet. I can't believe he made 615 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: it too like that, just the that the what they 616 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: gambled on that, you know, he could have missed, it 617 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: could have gone out and it didn't, and he made 618 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: it and it lit the cauldron. It's just beautiful. Well, 619 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: it actually didn't like the cauldron, but that was the 620 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: please stop dashing the Olympic torch in ignition button because 621 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: he can't take that chance. Uh. You know, I'll tell 622 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: you what, chuck. When I form my weird niche little 623 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: Olympic Torch website, it's going to be all fantasy. None 624 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: of this behind the scenes trickery, grittiness. It's just going 625 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: to be face value stuff. Sixty four Tokyo. When they 626 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: hosted their first game, they had the Hiroshima Baby a 627 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: K A. H. John Nori Sakai was born on August 628 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: the day Americans dropped the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima. He 629 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: was nineteen years old at the time he lit that thing. 630 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: What about a soul and those cooked doves? That was rough, man, 631 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: I did. I wasn't aware of that until we were 632 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: researching this, were you. I don't remember that. I mean 633 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: I certainly watched the games that year, but I was 634 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: probably too young to understand that those doves did not 635 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: make it out alive. Dude, it's yeah. I put my 636 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: hand in my mouth, like, oh my god, I can't 637 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: believe what I just saw. That was awful. But they 638 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: so they released the doves as part of the opening 639 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: ceremony and then some of the doves gathered in the 640 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: cauldron and it's not funny. I don't know why I'm laughing. No, 641 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's said, well, there's a certain element to 642 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: it that's funny, but in the worst way, you know 643 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. And the three people whose job it 644 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: was to like the Olympic cauld room at their torches, 645 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: they did, and some of the birds didn't fly away, 646 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: and you can see some of them sort of dancing 647 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: in the flame. It's it's that part's awful, but that 648 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: the whole idea of the thing. Is this so preposterous 649 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: and its contrary to what they're trying to do with 650 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: the Olympic spirit that they sacrifice some doves. Yeah, that 651 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: was tough to watch. So then, um, there's one more. 652 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 1: There's a bunch worth mentioning, but it's worth watching again. 653 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: Is uh lilahammer where um stein grubin uh ski jumper 654 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: skis down a ski jump seventy which is quite a 655 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: few feet more than seventy. Well it's the exact same 656 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: as seventy meters but in feet. Um just going some 657 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: ridiculous speed with the torch that won't go out, and like, 658 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: lands this jump just beautifully. That was a little nerve 659 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: wracking even knowing that it didn't go out. When I 660 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: was watching it the other day, I was like, don't 661 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: go out, don't go out, right, yeah, because it's it 662 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: looks like it could have at any moment, but no, 663 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: it stayed, stayed straight. And then let's see, there's a 664 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: couple more mentioning two thousand and two thousand fourteen the 665 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: flame went to space, which is pretty cool. Let's not 666 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: forget nineteen seventy six in Montreal and then um, it 667 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: was on the concorde. Once it flew on the concorde, 668 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: and I believe for the Barcelona Games. Amazing. So let's 669 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 1: that for the Olympic torch everybody. We'll talk more about 670 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: the Olympics someday when we do an episode on the Olympics. 671 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I hope you enjoyed this. Uh 672 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: And since I said that it's time for a listener, man, 673 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this chuck check your privilege. Did you 674 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: see this one? Yeah? Hey, guys, this is in reference 675 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: to your WASP podcast. Great information. I love the podcast, 676 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: but at the end it was almost amusing that you 677 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: assume people have the means to hire a professional to 678 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: remove a wasp nest from their property. I said, almost 679 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: almost amusing. Equally amusing, which I guess is equally almost amusing, 680 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: is the idea of fashioning a kind of trap. I 681 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: don't remember that part. Did you say that? I don't know. 682 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: I say a lot of things risk being stung dozens 683 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: of times for what. Uh, guys, I don't think you 684 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: should be shoving peta style in quotes, non lethal rhetoric 685 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: down people's throats. Nay saying the killing of vermin and pest, 686 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: especially when your solutions don't accommodate outside the middle class. 687 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: Pretty sure there are poverty stricken individuals that love to 688 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: learn and love this podcast as well. You very well 689 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: could be unintentionally alienating them into thinking that they are 690 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: being inhumane, when in fact they have no choice. Think 691 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: bigger picture, Chuck. That is from James Huggins. I mean 692 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: to do that, James, I'm sorry. I I think the 693 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: overarching message was leave it alone, don't do anything to it, 694 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: don't spend money. I've never paid money to have a 695 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: waspice removed. Do you do you know, Chuck? I have 696 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: to tell you. Just yesterday, I was challenged to live 697 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: up to my own words. And there was a wasp 698 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: in our screen porch and I had a fly swatter 699 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: and was trying to just lightly move it out. I 700 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna kill you. I'm not going 701 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: to kill you. What that thing is? He wouldn't Number one, 702 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: he wouldn't come after me. So we proved that wasps 703 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: are not necessarily super aggressive like they have um a 704 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: reputation for. But then he wouldn't. He also wouldn't make 705 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: his way towards the open door, right. So I thought 706 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: of this ingenious method. I grabbed like a little bowl, 707 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: which virtually anyone on earth can afford, put the bowl 708 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: over the wasp so that it was trapped between the 709 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 1: bowl and the screen. Then I took the fly swater 710 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: and I split it up between the bowl and the 711 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: screen to create a cover for the bowl, and then 712 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: ran that thing right out of the porch. Remove the 713 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: flyswater from the bowl, and the wasp flew away like 714 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: have a good day. Amazing. That's only smith that she 715 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: gets like a magazine and a like a tupperware for 716 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: kind of any beast works pretty well? Yeah, and that's 717 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: not elite US. No, it's not like I don't disagree 718 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: with James's overall message. I think it was more as delivery. 719 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: That's a little you know, you know. Sure, Okay, So 720 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: if you want to get in touch with us and 721 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: we can, we can do what we will with your email, um, 722 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: you can send it to us at stuff podcast at 723 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: iHeart radio dot com. Stuff you Should Know is a 724 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: production of iHeart Radio's How Stuff Works. For more podcasts 725 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: for my heart Radio is at the iHeart Radio app. 726 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts are wherever you listen to your favorite shows.