WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Top 3 Wish List?

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<v Speaker 1>The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. Following to the Goal Scots and now

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<v Speaker 1>your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeomans. It is a wonderful arm season edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos, helping fans get in on

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Here from the SWBC studios. Our favorite chip

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<v Speaker 1>and our favorite tip of Talking Cowboys. Welcome in everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you're with us here from the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, Rob Phillips, I'd say a stand back, heck

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<v Speaker 1>My Harrison, Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yeoman's back from the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl in Mobile all In last week. I sat

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<v Speaker 1>there in the stands and listen to you guys talk

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<v Speaker 1>about wrestling, like fifteen minutes, say minus minus twelve, mind

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<v Speaker 1>it more like okay, ten minutes. It was a long

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<v Speaker 1>time we missed. We definitely guys were gone. Damn it

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<v Speaker 1>the hell I wish i'd been there for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about you. Oh, I didn't realize you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>here either. Out the show we talked about how Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Pie needed to be a part of that conversation. You

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<v Speaker 1>just weren't here. Oh that's right, you were out. I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot about sixty days to wrestle Mania. Get your tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>get your credentials. Gonna be court sides or ringing side.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta send some text messages out to give me

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<v Speaker 1>some Yeah, yeah, we need to hook those up. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not a show up. Yeah, let's just all

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<v Speaker 1>show up, holding hands, walking in the great can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a busy week, huh yeah, yeah, Senior Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Back on Friday, it was awesome. Yeah, Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl got to go. Uh, we we had to. We

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<v Speaker 1>got stuck in Mobile. We had like four flight changes

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<v Speaker 1>because of the ice here. Hope everybody stayed safe here

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. But then when we ultimately looked at it all,

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to drive to New Orleans to have more

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<v Speaker 1>shots to try and get back more. Yeah that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's also there too, But yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 1>we were down in New Orleans to try and have

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<v Speaker 1>multiple opportunities to fly back and Ultimately it took us

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<v Speaker 1>our second chance. We had. We had one flight canceled

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans, and then whose idea was that? Was that?

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<v Speaker 1>David Helman's idea Orleans? Actually my idea, but everybody, of

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<v Speaker 1>course was four because he's never been in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>I had never been before. That was the first New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans trip. Yeah. Oh wow, yeah, Beamer, I've made that

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<v Speaker 1>drive from Mobile to New Orleans. We have here to Mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop in New Orleans for the night. Hey, for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire night, meet Chris and Mickey Spagnoles. Yeah, what hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. But yeah, other than that, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>basketball games, that's all nothing crazy. Waitin right, well you're

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<v Speaker 1>missing one that once we get the news and notes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do that. Let's do that. Let's go, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into news and notes. What you got going on this week, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's getting many Yeah, congrats, hecas. Oh wait, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a ring. You've got a ring. You've got a ring? Yes, boom,

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<v Speaker 1>that just happened. That congratulations. Man's man, it's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>She finally proposed. Yeah, rights, she finally did it. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the bread winner. Are you kidding me? Yeah? No, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun, and yeah, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a blast. She's happy. It's like she's still on

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<v Speaker 1>cloud nine. She texted me this morning and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I still can't believe it. She's at work right now

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<v Speaker 1>and she's just I'm sure she's probably just that thing

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<v Speaker 1>was fat than you. And I'm talking about fat phat

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<v Speaker 1>for those I don't know how to spell that fat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty high and tempting. That thing is serious. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the ring, the ring, Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what was it was? How many carries? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna tell you. It's not about the cars, but

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<v Speaker 1>but what shape was? It was an oval oval. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I got that correct. That thing

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<v Speaker 1>was nice, that had all the vegetables. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>wan't to applaud you on the timing because you said

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<v Speaker 1>she was surprised you didn't do it on New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>Eve and you didn't do it on Valentine's Day? Did

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<v Speaker 1>it right in between where she didn't see it coming,

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<v Speaker 1>right as soon as you got back from the Senior Bowl. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. I had two days to Brett. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even unpack. No, I didn't not until the night off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we want to know. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about how it happens. Okay, we have an entire hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not forty five minutes right now, that's true. We

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<v Speaker 1>do have a full selen. We will talk football, I promise.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this is fun. So it's the size of

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<v Speaker 1>a football. It was oval. So ultimately, the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>was when when I was told I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Senior Bowl, she was a little little stad She

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I don't like it whenever you're away.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know what, I'll make it

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<v Speaker 1>up to you. Let's do Let's do a date night.

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<v Speaker 1>We do it every like all throughout football season. We

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<v Speaker 1>have these date nights. That way when things get busy,

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<v Speaker 1>I can still kind of go with her. And so, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's not listening to I'm sorry. Yeah. Uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>well I planned a date night and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I got us reservations. But the only time I could

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<v Speaker 1>do it was at six o'clock on Sunday afternoon. So

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<v Speaker 1>and she worked until five, which is in her work

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<v Speaker 1>is like forty five minutes away. She works at a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding venue. A great wedding venue up north. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that great convenience. Um, And so I went and picked

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<v Speaker 1>her up, and like I told her, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a nice place that was good for pictures. So we

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<v Speaker 1>both kind of dressed up. We're nice and dressed to

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<v Speaker 1>the teas. And I drove back down to downtown Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>and we went to the Arts district. Beautiful spot over there,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of buildings, lights, We're at the Performing Arts Center

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<v Speaker 1>where we've gone multiple occasions to see concerts and plays

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff in the past. And so I went down there.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like a it's like a patio balcony sort

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<v Speaker 1>of deal that overlooks like a business district with all

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<v Speaker 1>these windows and buildings and different stuff downtown. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had a set up there that had these light up

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<v Speaker 1>letters and candles, had pictures of some stuff. I had it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you will see. I'm sorry, Nicky, you're kicking my ass

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, that's what it looked like. I'll show

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<v Speaker 1>it on the camera here in a second. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it looked like. We got down there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was very good. Here you go, Chris, I'll show

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<v Speaker 1>it on the camera. So that was the that was y'all. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear my story. It's so bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>put us all to damn shames. Sorry, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>make it up ten your anniversary. I got enough to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, No, that is very crazy. So you got

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<v Speaker 1>that idea off Pinterest? No I didn't. That's really excitest board. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Interest is great for a lot of those things. The

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<v Speaker 1>letter I ordered him off of Amazon. Yeah, Amazon got

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<v Speaker 1>it there, prime shipping. It's funny. She actually put the

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<v Speaker 1>box from my front like with the letters in it.

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<v Speaker 1>She it was supposed to arrive a day later. It

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<v Speaker 1>arrived day early, and she took the box from my

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<v Speaker 1>front step and put it in my apartment. Wow, thank

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<v Speaker 1>god she didn't open it up. That's awesome. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not at all. Yeah. Arrangement Yeah yeah, but so

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<v Speaker 1>we had we had a photographer videographer waiting for us

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<v Speaker 1>down there. We walked up and conveniently we're just placed there. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just there. Connor down the hall actually was

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<v Speaker 1>one that video the whole thing. He's got a great

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<v Speaker 1>video that he's walking on right now. Um and then

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<v Speaker 1>after with me a whole but he sorry, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>handled dirt all myself, this dirt on myself. But afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>we met met a bunch of friends and family out

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<v Speaker 1>of the at a patio downtown. It was still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a smaller group, but it was it was sorry

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<v Speaker 1>at been security or something. It was mostly family in

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<v Speaker 1>long time in high school friends. Yeah, Connor Connor was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Connor was there? Yea, and so your favorite show there.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was a blast, guys. Yeah, yeah, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry. The wedding invite will be there. Tell us,

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<v Speaker 1>don't even do so. I just want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the creativity that you displayed right there is he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the level right now. I think it is like a

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<v Speaker 1>smell of and I don't know what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a fun one. And that is that creativity

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<v Speaker 1>is off the charts. I literally drove up Jammie happy

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<v Speaker 1>feelings and asked my wife to man, let's not go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this guy right here goes full on pictures. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going give us the bowl one ceedee Lamb had four

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<v Speaker 1>catches for forty one. They got eighty thousand dollars, right,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand, forty He got forty guys. Hell of a game.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of tackling. Watch, yeah, watch, I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Actually, I love that two hand touch. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>and just tap off. Well, Kyle, great job man, Congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>congrass man. You'll you'll be in in the nosy club

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<v Speaker 1>here soon. That's okay, I'm ready. She's super happy, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the last Amazon package that will ever come

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<v Speaker 1>that won't be opened. Everything name on it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done. Yeah, you're right, but it'll be a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course when the wedding comes around, we'll live

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<v Speaker 1>stream and I'm sure we'll have a podcast that day.

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<v Speaker 1>So have you guys set up in the reception while

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<v Speaker 1>we're eating. It'll just be you guys up on the

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<v Speaker 1>stage podcasting. It'll be it'll be a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but special. Thanks to everybody. That's exactly special. Thanks everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who sent the well wishes and the congratulations. Yeah, it's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>so coming down that way. All right, Alright, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this news and notes. Let's get to some cowboys talk.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spent ten minutes on it, so that's enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just texted my wife. Just started ten minutes in

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<v Speaker 1>because we had some technical difficulties. That's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I covered the Pro Bowl, but that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>enough about the Pro Bowl. Um that impressed it. Also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my mentions fans not happy with the format there.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's crowndhog Day every year. We say

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. As long as they play it, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the way it's gonna be. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I got crap for this. I don't blame players for

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<v Speaker 1>not one to tackle each other. Now it's an extra

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<v Speaker 1>game where you're beat up during the season. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>month before free agency. Guys are trying to protect themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>protect each other. I got no problem with it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to make a skials competition, fine, but if

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna play the game that way, kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>dodgeball game just full had a portion of it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying they might have just turned the whole Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>into a dodgeball game. But I mean, if we're being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>you look across the major sports NHL, MLB, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>most fun part NBA, it's the slam dunk contoles. For

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<v Speaker 1>the MLB, it's the home run Derby for the hockey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the skills competition. The most entertaining. Part of an

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<v Speaker 1>All Star weekend is the skills stuff that they make

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<v Speaker 1>sure overly entertaining. It's not necessarily the game because at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, maybe baseball is the only one where

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<v Speaker 1>you can really play it. Yeah, basketball, even it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a real game. It's always one hundred and fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy to whatever. It's just recently started. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>getting better a new format, and towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game it gets more competitive. I think the argument

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<v Speaker 1>is the game that less resembles the actual sport itself

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<v Speaker 1>is the Pro Bowl of all the major sports. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get it, but anybody got real problems. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why people complaining about this. It's not that big a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of one of those things where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if if you're gonna watch it, watch it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to watch its has on comments about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw that. Yeah, he was in Dion Sanders, Okay, he

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much commentist saying that. I mean, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a paraphrase pretty much that, you know, it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a badge of honor to go and compete and

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<v Speaker 1>show why you were the best, and now it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that way. So whatever, it's a different time different different

0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.280
<v Speaker 1>time period. Definitely, definitely Cowboys did have some guys show out.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons there, Trayvon Diggs, ceedee lamb. You mentioned his

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<v Speaker 1>stat line. I thought the Cowboys kind of stole the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course nobody really cares unless you win playoff

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<v Speaker 1>games to this certain extent, but uh, I mean Trayvon

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs won the catching contest like the skills contest, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Michael Parson's winning the race against Tyree Hill who

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<v Speaker 1>went probably seventy percent, but everybody else in that race

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<v Speaker 1>went well. So how about that from Michael Parsons showing

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<v Speaker 1>off the speed a little bit big? He beat his teammate,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, Trayvon, But I mean, are all chilling? I

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<v Speaker 1>missed the time? Who is that they used to run out?

0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.360
<v Speaker 1>He used to playing for Washington back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>super Fast Green Green, that boy had Wills. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to love watching that part of the competition in the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. Willie Galt, Darryl Green races used to be

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<v Speaker 1>off the chain fastest man in the NFL. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>those are the days? I mean? And that was a

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<v Speaker 1>real race, oh no doubt, Yeah, yes they would race

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<v Speaker 1>to the Pro Bowl. Oh yeah, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was going down. Yeah, I mean, and they

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<v Speaker 1>used to have the NFL Fastest Man deal every year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I don't know that that it was on NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember seeing guys always run in it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's look, man, we live in that world

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<v Speaker 1>of memes. And one of my favorite memes is when

0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you see it's like a it's like they're they're at

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<v Speaker 1>a dog park or dog races and there's a cheetah

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the box and the cheetahs just like sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there watching the dogs run, and it's like, come on, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're worth us. So whatever the mean the caption is

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<v Speaker 1>over the front. That's what I thought about trick Hill

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<v Speaker 1>not running in this because well, you know he's a

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<v Speaker 1>track guy. Yeah, and there's no way and Michael Parsons,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just saying this freak athlete. I'm mean, Trey

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<v Speaker 1>von Dis ran for real, Chubb ran for real. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got smoke. Yeah, that was the only person

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<v Speaker 1>who looked like he just really cared about this race

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<v Speaker 1>either way. But Tikill, I just nah, he'll backed off.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that it was Chubb, I mean, Chubb

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the more electrifying running backs. The long

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.520
<v Speaker 1>runs that they explosives running back in the NFL, you

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<v Speaker 1>would expect him to be able to run away from

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<v Speaker 1>She's a nine or maybe even a forty millimeter, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but not a Buzuka. Not a Buzuka. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it was funny when they were interviewing them

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<v Speaker 1>pre race, and the Lis Assaulter I believe, was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the interview and yeah, and she was saying that their

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<v Speaker 1>forty times were so close, and then you know, Parson's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looked over at Chubb's like what was your

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<v Speaker 1>forty time? And he's like oh, and She's like he

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<v Speaker 1>was a four or five something, and Parson's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looked over him like okay, yeah, okay, like I gotta go,

0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna smoke. Yeah, it was done by that point forward,

0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he already knew. So that was interesting, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun to see that happen, um Man. And it's funny

0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I was watching going back to memes, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>video I saw on the internet this week. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a javelin test, yeah, from the military. Boom just

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<v Speaker 1>shot a rocket out and it just came right back down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so cool looking and the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>thought of was up, there's Michael Parsons right in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what if I just like I said, freak

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<v Speaker 1>athlete his his I mean, rookie year. Maybe we won't

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.600
<v Speaker 1>see anything like this or we've seen something like it before,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this time, I'm just excited about what he

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<v Speaker 1>can do in his second season, especially with the type

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<v Speaker 1>of rookie output uh that he had. So it's thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about him getting bigger, faster, stronger. For for rookies obviously,

0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you just you want these guys to just stay dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to the craft and not you know, the off season

0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.720
<v Speaker 1>takes on a life all in his own, but breed

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<v Speaker 1>build holding around that kind of talent. Just seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>he did, I was just like, man, this is he's

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<v Speaker 1>ours saying, we're gonna have him for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just love that we have that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>freaky athleticism on our team. Did you see them do

0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the redraft on it was either NFL or ESPN dot com. Yeah,

0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.880
<v Speaker 1>he's much higher, much higher. He's wearing a Falcon's jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the number four overall instead of Kyle Pitts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get him at number twelve. Not bad, not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. If you guys were betting men, would you

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<v Speaker 1>guys bet a that he would have a better season

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<v Speaker 1>than he had his rookie year going into a second year. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna say, I'm going to say yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I'm gonna say yes is because now he

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<v Speaker 1>has an opportunity to sharpen his skill set. From an

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<v Speaker 1>edge rusher standpoint, I think we saw he was just

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. He's just raw. You know, he's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>he is out there balling, you know, all in his

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<v Speaker 1>own So I think he becomes a lot better at that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think dan Quinn now with him being back,

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<v Speaker 1>also gives him a lot more to scheme around because

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<v Speaker 1>of his skill set. I don't think they even recognize

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<v Speaker 1>what they had until they got him in here and

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<v Speaker 1>then things started to change. You hit the nail right

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<v Speaker 1>on the head. Dan Quinn being back gives that an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to happen. And even if there is a slight

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<v Speaker 1>drop off, you're fine that he doesn't have to be

0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't have to hit that number to be a

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<v Speaker 1>successful player in the NFL. He doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a first team All Pro to be an impact player.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right with it being so raw and unchiseled

0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and so just pure talent, there is an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>take that next step with dan Quinn in an entire offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at least based off of what he said

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<v Speaker 1>throughout his rookie season, he has the work ethic, he

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<v Speaker 1>has the want to drive, the hunger as the lion

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<v Speaker 1>to jump to the next level, which if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the guys that he was compared to

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<v Speaker 1>t J. Watt, You've got Miles Garrett in that category.

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<v Speaker 1>They had seasons that statistically were better than Michael Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Michael Parsons can do that in year two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, in my opinion, it's the most exciting

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<v Speaker 1>thing that came out of twenty twenty one by far

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.440
<v Speaker 1>for the future anyways, was the fact that you have

0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Micah Parsons as a core member of that defense. Even

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<v Speaker 1>with what Trayvon Diggs did, Michael Parsons was still the

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<v Speaker 1>most exciting part. Do you agree with that, Rob, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, And we'll find out Thursday night if he's

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL rookie of the Year defensively, I'm would be

0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.080
<v Speaker 1>shocked if he's not. He's all you mentioned t J. Watt.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably the favorite for Defensive Player of the Year. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mike is right in that conversation. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing Mike McCarthy said after the season was

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge year two is that teams are going to

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<v Speaker 1>find whale to spend all offseason trying to scheme for you.

0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.680
<v Speaker 1>But the counter to that is that Mica can play

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place and you never really know where

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming from. So I'm with you, guys. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what he has shown with his work ethic and he talked,

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.840
<v Speaker 1>he has talked a lot about that. I expect him

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<v Speaker 1>to be better for sure. Is there any worry around

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons and what he could bring next year if

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<v Speaker 1>there is sort of drop off or something that teams

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<v Speaker 1>could look at and say that might be where we

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>could get you. No, none, No, nope. What is his

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<v Speaker 1>biggest weakness? Lack of experience? Wow, that's it. I mean

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>physically there, I don't think that he has too many weaknesses.

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's he's a solid height, he's a solid weight,

0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.119
<v Speaker 1>he's explosive, he's powerful, he's strong. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>lack of experience, you know. I think what he lacked

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and whatever, if you want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>he lacked anything, you know, he'll gain obviously with a

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<v Speaker 1>full off season. You know, it's a hecka's point. He'll

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.359
<v Speaker 1>have opportunity to go back and watch film. He'll have

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get with guys like d Way and other

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.119
<v Speaker 1>guys that are around the area that can get their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on him and work with him on technique and

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 1>work on those pass rushes, and then he'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get with guys in the linebacker position, watch film

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<v Speaker 1>with Dan Quinn for an entire offseason, and then get

0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 1>today can be on the same accord and understand what

0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.120
<v Speaker 1>they're both trying to do when certain calls are made.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think once he gains that experience and get

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<v Speaker 1>that knowledge right, get that gets that dot back on

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<v Speaker 1>his helmet and all those type of things that we

0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.360
<v Speaker 1>talked about him getting removed that pressure from him this year,

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he could be pretty dog scary now. And

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the one thing I mean, and we're

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 1>just critiquing something that's already really good. Sum I mean,

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and not with any solid proof. I know that his

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<v Speaker 1>pf F grade on tackles was outstanding, so he's not

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>missing many tackles. Um. You know, I think a lot

0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of teams thought at first that maybe because you know,

0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:22.639
<v Speaker 1>putting him at edge, you could run at him. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he showed that he can obviously stack and get

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 1>guys off, and so his ability to do those things

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of dissuay the teams was saying, Okay, that's not

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.080
<v Speaker 1>his weakness either. If I could just point to anything

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that he could possibly get better at, and that's in coverage,

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what people said coming out. Yeah, But then at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, when you see him cover a guy

0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty yards down the field, you're like, well, physically he

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.120
<v Speaker 1>could do anything, definitely do it. So I mean, those

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 1>are just some some really things. And like again I'm

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>nitpicking and absolutely understand that I am. I'm just saying, like,

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>as far as coverage is concerned, I think those were

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<v Speaker 1>some of the drop offs where we were having to

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 1>use more of a safety looking Curse wasn't bad in

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that area as well. But you know, so that teams

0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>are not able to scheme the wid they did against him, well,

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I'm asking is I want to nitpick

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>because there are so many things, and that's what teams

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.439
<v Speaker 1>are gonna do all offseason long. They're gonna look at

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, all right, so this guy doesn't look

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like he has a weakness, but we think he has one.

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 1>This might be where we could do it. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>run game one, because I'm looking at you mentioned PF

0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 1>grade tech mind, So I pulled him up and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean ninety overall ninety three pass rush, which is highest

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, I believe, or at least right there.

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Coverage grade was a good solid sixty nine, almost close

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to seventy. His run defense, though, is where his grade

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>was low. And there's a couple times on film where

0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>he kind of gets washed out whenever he tries to

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of work against offensive linemen in the zone blocking

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 1>schemes and the run schemes. But is that something that

0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>he could learn just by having reps. That's film study.

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>That's film study. Once once he gains an understanding again,

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 1>once he sits down with Dan Quinn for entire offseason,

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.719
<v Speaker 1>it understands what the guys in front of him were doing, right,

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>what is what is the responsibilities of a defensive alignment.

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>What gap are they supposed to be responsible for? What

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 1>are they trying to do to the offensive alignement? Who

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 1>are they freeing up? Where is the best place to attack?

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, when these guys are flowing. Once he understands

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>how those things and logistics of that works, then he'll

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>be half a step faster than he was this year

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and he won't get washed out like he had been.

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Even ray Lewis some of the best linebackers in the league.

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things that they have to up.

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>They have to anchor themselves and not get caught up

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 1>in the wash. But I'm telling you, man, anytime you

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>got a six five, three hundred and five pound man

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 1>barreling down on you and you're going to run direction,

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to change direction. And we saw that from

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Laden Vanderes and Jalen when they were early years. I wonder, though,

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.240
<v Speaker 1>could he end up being full time ed rusher. I

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was about to ask that depending depending on who comes back. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a chance you don't have either Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory or DeMarcus Lawrence or one of the other. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that one of those guys will

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<v Speaker 1>be gone if not both. How many times have we

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<v Speaker 1>argued about As I'm saying this, I'm like, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>right back to drag us, right back to this. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew at the off season we just need to build

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<v Speaker 1>like a show around it, you know what. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, the whole season after watching him and saying that, look,

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to be at edge and seeing the deficiencies

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<v Speaker 1>that we had in the middle. And that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>draft show talking about linebackers so important, because we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need to get a solid run stopper in here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple, right, But at the same time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just you just recognize that those are some of

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<v Speaker 1>his strengths. I don't think that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that you pitcheonhole into one of

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<v Speaker 1>the other the other. He's a weapon on your defense

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<v Speaker 1>and you should use him as such. So Dan Quinn,

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<v Speaker 1>who whatever defensive coordinators in here that's coaching him, is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna understand that he is a special talent that you

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<v Speaker 1>should use as that Swiss army knife. I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>laughing because I'm going all the way back to week

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<v Speaker 1>three and four of the season, where it was pass

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<v Speaker 1>rusher linebacker debate, which one is? Which one is he

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<v Speaker 1>better at? And his play consistently throughout the season just

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<v Speaker 1>negated all of that. He took it all away because

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<v Speaker 1>now it's not a linebacker or a pass rusher, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just play defense. No, it was great, but like to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, heck, who are the linebackers next year? Drebill

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<v Speaker 1>Cox coming back. That's the only one that's under contract right.

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Vanderesh is a free agent, count of Nels a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Bernard's been hurt, but Lucy so, even if Mica

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<v Speaker 1>is back at linebacker at least most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the time, they're gonna have to address that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Curse comes back now that the dan

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn State. I think there's a chance he's Boure. I

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<v Speaker 1>sure hope he does. Yeah, I sure hope he does.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're doing those topic, we're doing top three later,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we are, Okay, Yeah, it'd be on my We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about it coming up in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>on talking Cowboys. What is the coaching staff expectation going

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<v Speaker 1>those bulls are those things are humongous. You needed you

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to the Rodeo this weekend out of

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<v Speaker 1>are you. Yeah. It's like I love the rodeo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids love kid. Yeah, Yellowstone Action love it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also a big fight happening at at and T Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>as well coming up. Just announced this was like ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes ago. Yeah, this is like ten minutes ago that

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<v Speaker 1>this happened. Uh, Spence Junior is fighter Spence. Yes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Premiere Boxing Champions at at and T Stadium. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say his name wrong. What is that name?

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<v Speaker 1>It's ugas. I don't know how to I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't either. It's for the title. Yeah, he has unified

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<v Speaker 1>world welterweight champions. He has to fight. He hasn't fighting forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. So that's happening at at and

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<v Speaker 1>T Stadium April sixteenth. I hope it's how you say

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<v Speaker 1>his name. I'm not a fighting guy, just as you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell. But um okay, this is from down in Mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we had a chance to catch up with

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones. He says this, He certainly qualified. He's very qualified. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would consider if I didn't have a head coach,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I would have been interviewing him for head coach. Talking

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<v Speaker 1>of course about defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, who was making

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<v Speaker 1>his way back to Dallas, was passed up by a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of jobs, and ultimately made the decision to stay put,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because of some of the talking and the conversations

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>between him and the Jones family. Moving forward, Cowboys fans

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>certainly happy to have dan Quinn back in the fold.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this something that is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>problem going into the season. Yeah, I mean, that's that's

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my biggest thing. He said it. I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 1>worked for word. I was so surprised that that came

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>out of his men. He said it on camera. I mean,

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>because I can just imagine Coach McCarthy's face as he's

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>hearing that. He just imagine Coach McCarthy was smiling and

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>know he's just listen into that whole thread that mister

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Jones said, and his face just changed his like, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing about it, though, is Jerry's right and

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>saying that you knew that right. Everybody knows dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>is a great coach and he's qualified, very qualified, even

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about that part, to be a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. It's the second sentence that really is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that hits. Is that just him putting pressure where

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<v Speaker 1>pressure needs to be put. No, because there was a

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<v Speaker 1>whole there was another portion of that that you didn't mention,

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>where he said he knows that he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys one day, yeah,

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>exactly one day. Yeah, But he's referring to Kellen Moore

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and Dan Quinn. When he was referring to that, I'm like, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nixt manute, So when is one day? Yeah? When is

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>one day? I mean that that's that's hurtful. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. How much older is McCarthy than dan quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>They're about the same man, yet the same I can

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<v Speaker 1>look it up. So when you make that comment, let's

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>look over your shoulder time exactly. I mean, look, I'm

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>just wondering just what I mean. There's not a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>or thirty year age gap there as if somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get phased out, you know, they're gonna father Time's gonna

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>beat him, not Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniel. Or when

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Bill Parcels was here and they wanted to keep Sean

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Payton and gave him a raise and know five and

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Bill was sixties with history of some health problems. Here's

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>some marriage advice. Never overcompliment another one woman in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the whole don't ever do you hear about that

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>on your way home. He has been lighting up McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason, in these past four weeks. He's not happy.

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>He's been lighting him up. I mean he left him

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>on a string. He didn't come out and say blatantly

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that he was coming back until until but Dan Quinn

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>said he was coming back, and then he said that

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>was that was calculated because they were working together to

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>get Dan back. They wanted other teams to think that

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Dan could have been hired. Here, dude, that coach h yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't leaving him twisting in the wind. Yeah,

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>but he was. He was hanging in the wind. He

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>was hanging on the last little limb right there waiting.

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it deservedly so for coach Mike McCarthy going from

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>first year two second year? Great question? Is it it?

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Does he deserve it? I mean, obviously this is a

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>cutthrough business. All coaches get fired, and with anticipating being fired. Uh,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>but the pressure that he's under and everybody, I feel

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>as if if Double Jay would have stopped, what did

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you were just left it at just leaving as a

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>leaving him as a cliffhanger, you know, just hey, are

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you coming back type of deal, like not standing behind

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>him and saying hey to answer guy coming back, Like

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>he did that right, He waited a couple of weeks

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.239
<v Speaker 1>on that, just let McCarthy just kind of hanging there

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>in the wind by himself. I think if he would

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>have ended it right there, I think that would have

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>been Hey, okay, points proven, all right, I get it.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I like, okay, I gotta bring it next year. But

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>when he doubled down with that comment, oh, that's just hurtful.

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>That just hurts because now you got to go into meeting.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You're his boss, and he pretty much knows. And the

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>reason why. I remember when I was here my second

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.719
<v Speaker 1>year and Wade Phillips was a head coach and there

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was some dude by the name of Jason Garrett who

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>was the offensive coordinator. But he had got such a

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>pay raise, he had got pay raise as such where

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>he was pretty much had the same power financially, right

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it seemed as if he was the head coach as well.

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And I remember those power, those power pools, those power

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>struggles in team team operations where we would be doing

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a walk through and the defense would be on one

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>side and the offense would be on one side, and

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>then coach Phillips would finish, you know, with the defense

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>walked through and be like hey would look down and

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>say hey, hey, Jason, wrap it up, and he'd be like, yeah, yeah,

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>well we'll be done in a minute. Everybody was standing

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there and be like, oh, crap, Like who's the head coach? Rap.

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>That was the year after like Jason turned down a

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>couple opportunities to come back. That was a little bit

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>of a unique situation though, just because he was hired.

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett was hired before Wade Phillips was hired. He

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>was brought in in an unspecified assistant role turned out

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to bedoc before Wade Phillips was that and everybody knew

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>at some point Jason Garrett was going to be here,

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you see. And I feel like the only reason why

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that feeling there was a multiple reasons right there was

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>because of the pay race, because he had turned down

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the opportunities, right, and then the fact that there was

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>at age there was a age gap, right, but there's

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>no age gap there by the way. Fifty eight to

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 1>fifty one, Quinn's fifty one McCarthy's fifty eight. There you go, see,

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>But now I feel like there's not that larger about

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>age age gap. But it feels very similar to that

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>transition of power. It really does. As I look at

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it from the outside in, I'm like, this feels like

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Sorry, go ahead, No, No, it's

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 1>just the power struggle set up is already something that's

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna undermine Mike McCarthy from what you're saying, and if

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you and if you can see this from sitting here,

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>when you go into OTAs, when you go into two

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of Days, when you're going into when when there's a struggle,

0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>how do you dictate from from a leadership standpoint, Hey,

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>this is what we want to do. Two players that

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>already know your seat is so hot, you know, how

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>effective do you become when we're like my kids say

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go, I'm gonna go ask mom. It's so

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>much cutting your legs out. So much of it is

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>depending on dan Quinn and how he handles it. And

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I knowing dan Quinn, he's gonna handle it like a

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>like a champ. He's gonna handle it like a champ.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>JG didn't necessarily handle it that way, right, But but

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I knowing Dan Quinn personally, he is not It won't

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>be any issues. He's not going to cause any internal

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>issues for a coach McCarthy. He's not gonna cause those

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>those little minute, little situations where everybody has to look

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>side to side and fear out who's in charge. He's

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure that everybody knows McCarthy's in charge. I'm

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>here playing my position. But I feel as if those

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>two situations, leaving him on a cliffhanger and then doubling

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>down with those comments leaves everybody now looking like, bro,

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>like you're really not in charge. No. And the thing

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is is he put them on different levels. He put

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>them on different standing zone. Because if he wanted to

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 1>really say we're a united team going to the same goal,

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>it's okay McCarthy and Quinn are succeeding together or they're

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not succeeding together. Instead, it was well, if McCarthy doesn't succeed,

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>there is a guy here that could probably get the

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>job done. That was the biggest thing that stood out

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to me. Additionally, if you take all of this away,

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you take that star off the wall. You take the

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>stars off the jackets in which we're wearing, you take

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>all of it away. You're not talking about the Dallas Cowboys.

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>You can talk about any other team in the NFL, maybe,

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with the exception of the Patriots and Bill Belichick, a

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>six win improvement, going from six and ten straight to

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>twelve and five winning the division even with a playoff loss.

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's happy, right, everyone's great. Everybody's fist pump. They're like, Okay,

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>we've got a chance here, We've got a future, we've

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>got a talented quarterback, we've got an offensive mindset with

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>all these weapons that hey, we've got some success, and

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, our defense looked like they had the

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest improvement out of any unit in the NFL last year.

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of positives that are being buried by

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the frustration of this organization, which is fair. I'm not

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>saying there's anything wrong with the frustration, because I have

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it too. There's frustration in the fact that it's the

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>same old groundhog day. You don't have that playoff success.

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But there's still something that McCarthy did right to go

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>from six and ten to make it into a twelve

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and five and ultimately make it into the playoffs with

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>no questions asked. We got to week five of the year,

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we knew this was a playoff team immediately. You just

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>knew that there was a chance for it to be different,

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately the fact that it wasn't was the reason

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>why people are upset with his head coaching job right now.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>One reason why Jerry so pissed off about the way

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 1>the season ended was how healthy they were, Like, that's

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>everything was set up for success. So that's a gift

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>from the football gods to be relatively healthy at that

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>point in the season and to come out and not

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>play well at all until you know, yeah, you fought back,

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>but forty nine Ers were the better team on the road,

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>only road team to win in the first round of

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. There's a part of me that is kind

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>of once to robut a little bit of this and

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>because look, if he wanted to, why why didn't he

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>just make Dan Quinn the head coach? And he didn't

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>do it? And so I don't know, I've I've been

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>around covering Jerry long enough. Sometimes I think sometimes maybe

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's just talking, you know, and some of it is

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>like in a way, he's kind of propping up the

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>staff and talking about how this is this organization where

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>guys want to stay and continue building their resume and

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and we've got a great staff. We're gonna build on that.

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he did talk the week before about how

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 1>he and Mike and d he and Mike working together

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to bring back dan Quinn. So it is a little

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>bit of a different messaging. I think we all can

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>agree that Mike and the staff, they're under pressure this season.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and what's interesting about it is this, this

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>team is going to be different. This team may not

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>be as talented, may not be as deep, probably a

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>tougher schedule on paper, But I don't think Jerry cares

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>about that. Jerry looks at it like I'm I've got

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a franchise quarterback that I'm paying one hundred what is it,

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty million bucks? You know, We've got two of the

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>best young defensive players on defense, got a great staff,

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>like he expects to win, and Mike is in charge

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of that. And that's I mean, there's the frustration has

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>been building, uh and you you've seen it slowly, but

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>showly or shortly over the over the course of the

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>offensive slumps, and just the interviews were just leading up

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to that, and and and just going kind of away

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>from dan Quinn even I think it was back to

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>something that Steven Jones said about bringing back Kellen Moore,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Moore possibly leaving uh that you know, Mike McCarthy's

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>called offensive plays, called it plays his whole career, So

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>let's not think of this guy as a you know,

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:35.879
<v Speaker 1>a lame He could call the plays he's done at

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>the championship level. So to have the whole staff back, um,

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that looking for I guess we're trying to

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>dissect the words to say what they mean. I think

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>for this team to have all of their coaches coaching

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>back should be a good thing, even if your physical

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>team the numbers those guys are not going to be here.

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I think dan Quinn knows the kind of players that

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he is looking for, and he built this foster on

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the other side with bringing in those free agents. I

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>think he can go back and do it again. And

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the advantage that he has over other coaches that he's

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>been the head coach and he's scouted a lot of

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>these guys, so he knows them. I think for Kellen Moore.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I think a year another year with Dak and understanding, look,

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>how do we not have a lull in our season?

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 1>The way that we did offensively is gonna bolde well

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>for him. So just all the lip service and everything

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that's gone out, I think we can dive through the

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>minutia of it. But seriously, it's a good thing for

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>us to have all of our coaches back. It's a

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>great thing, honestly. And keeping one thing out there that

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked about is Kellen Moore not hired for

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that Miami job that he was a finalist for a

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of Cowboys Nation was excited for the fact that

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe see something new on the offensive side in terms

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of the coaches want to change in people's life one

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>year a couple months. Yeah, that's also fair. Yeah, I

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>mean from the number standpoint, do you guys not agree

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that having Kellen Moore back is a good thing. It's

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>an interesting discussion because it kind of goes back to

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>not only Kellen's the job he did, but just the

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>offense as a whole. If you look at the stats,

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, man number one in total yard, it's number

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>one in scoring. Oh my gosh, it's all his talent,

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the eye test showed it wasn't as good down the stretch.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't. So so that being said, I mean,

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore's thirty three years old, and he does he

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>does have a lot of great ideas. I think to

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>say he can't get better as a play caller, I

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>think is wrong to say that. To say that he

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>can improve and needs to improve, I think that's definitely

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>something that they need to look at. There's things they

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>got to tweak. Offensively. This was his third seasons the

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator. Yes, going into his fourth season. Now, that's

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the thing. He doesn't have a lot of experience as

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a coach period. This is his mid year as a

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>coach period. Yes, he was a quarterbacks coach for what

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a year? One year, then he was the offensive coordinator.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's that could be encouraging, But I think there's

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a level of frustration as well with Kellen specifically because

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the ceiling was there. But then as soon as you

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>went up against the coaching staff that had either a

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>talented coordinator or just a talented defense in general, Kellen

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Moore didn't have an answer, And that's what ultimately happened

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in the playoff game. You got into the forty nine

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Ers game and Kyle Shanahan's defense was there ready to roll.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>And it also happened in the Cardinals game, and it

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>also happened in the Raiders game, and it also happened

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 1>in the Chiefs game. Every time you went up against

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a talented defense, you were out coached and outplayed. And

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that's something that I think Cowboys Nation wanted to see

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>improved upon, whether that was by a veteran offensive coordinator

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>coming in here or Kellen Moore needs to take that

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>next step, So I think there's extra pressure on him

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to do so as well. Well. I mean, and I

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like, do you believe that the pet peeve

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is is that he did not find the mismatches for

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>him from his offense to defense. I mean there are

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>several pet peevesize that weapons exactly, just not utilizing the

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>weapons and not taking advantage of the mismatches. Yeah. I

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot of pet peeves, you know,

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>see your point. I think that one that stands out

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>for me is just his lack there of ability or

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>willingness to get his weapons to ball. There's just zero

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>excuse to have a roster that stacked offensively to not

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>get your guys to ball because there's teams that are

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>doing doing a lot more with a lot less in

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>terms of playmaking ability at that point of the season.

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>But I know, to be fair, you know, I think

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Moore has a bright future. I really do. I

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>don't foresee him as a head coach at this point

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in time in his career. That's why I mentioned not

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and even though he was doing interviews, I didn't think

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance he was leaving. But I think that

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.760
<v Speaker 1>he has a lot of growth left as office a coordinator.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>He's obviously done a great job to date, but there's

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>still some gaping holes. Connor Williams has more playing experience

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>in years and than he does Kelly Moore does as coaching,

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>so look at it from that perspective. He's still very young,

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>very young as a coach. He's going up against guys

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>who have been coaching for twenty plus years, you know,

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>with the experience. So he has a lot of growth

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think he will get better. He will get

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>better in the red zone, he will get better with

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>utilizing his guys. He will get better with you know,

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>with being diverse throughout the whole season instead of emptying

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 1>his bag early on because he's so excited like most

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>kids do, right, most kids get other toys and what

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>do they want to do? Put them all out? And

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I played with him and then the excitement's gone. That's

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>what he just did. He had a whole bunch of

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>toys that he had, you know, offensively, he poured it

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>all out and he played with him in the first

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>half of the season. Then the second half was just like,

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do now, you know. So

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>that's what he did. So that's maturity, that's and that's

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>all gonna come with growth. I think he's gonna be

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>perfectly fine. I think he's gonna This offense is gonna

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>be amazing again, regardless of who leaves or who comes.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a lot of that too coming up

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>that we probably gonna have to address, but I think

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>he'll find a way. Now, just to add to your

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>point before we go to our second break, but look

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>at the two teams in the Super Bowl right now,

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 1>you would you would agree that the weapons for Cincinnati

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase Higgins, right, Yeah, nineteen total combined targets and

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that AFC Championship game against Kansas City. And by the way,

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City twenty one combined target it's between Travis Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyreek Hill more so than the entire rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the roster combined. LA in the Super Bowl twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>targets for Cooper Cup and Odell Beckham Junior. Twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>between the two out of forty five total passes. And

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you know where the ball is going. It's going, see

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<v Speaker 1>right to Cooper's Cup and he has eleven receptions and yards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then instead it was Dalton Shultz, Cedric Wilson, nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>Brown on a couple of occasions. It's funny, he said

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that because every time I try to like explain what

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>happened to this offense, I just see that bright orange

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<v Speaker 1>in my face and it states the Cincinnati Bengals. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the charts. Yeah. Well, like you just said, they find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get to mar Chase the ball. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't run the ball against Kansas City. Didn't matter, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I'm talking about this running game. They got to

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<v Speaker 1>get it going. LA didn't met against San Francisco, but

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<v Speaker 1>they still found the way to get the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Cup and Odell Beckham junior. Jodel Beckham Junior hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>had a hundred yard receiving game since what twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Joe Burrow does not have an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line that's top in the league, and he's still

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<v Speaker 1>finding a way. Now, maybe they're a huge aberration. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I still think those are reasons why the offense struggled

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>from a personnel standpoint exception, not the rule. But Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore as a play caller, you the best play callers

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to mass those those deficiencies. And I

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0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:22.880
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0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>delegates to his coordinators. He's offensive minded. He has been

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0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how how involved he is with with Kellen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he gives him a ton of autonomy. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just spitballing here, but I think that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>they've got over classes year. It's really cool. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>Nate's doing and of course out of fam you and

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<v Speaker 1>m baby awesome. All right, let's talk about this top

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<v Speaker 1>three guys that you want to see back on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys this year that are expiring contracts, Rob, could you

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>run down a list of guys that are not necessarily

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>under contract heading into twenty twenty two? Most time we

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>go all right, uh, Corey Clement, Noah Brown, Michael Gallup,

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Malik Turner, Cedric Wilson, Dalton Schultze, Jeremy Sprinkle, Tian Secky

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, Dawrence Armstrong, Randy Gregory, Justin Hamilton, Brent Urban,

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Carlos Watkins, count O'Neil Layton, Vander Esch, Maurice Kennedy, Malee Cooker,

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Demante Casey, jay Ron Curse, Brian Anger, and Jake McQuaid.

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna add Maury Cooper and DeMarcus Lawrence to

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>that list as well. They're both in that list at

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the same time. Just because there are rumors out there

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean there's anything grounded in those rumors, but since

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they're out there, I want to throw that out there

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 1>as well. So basically, from this point, you have three

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>names out of that list that you need to give me,

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>including DeMarcus Lawrence and Amari Cooper, and you've got to

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>keep three guys out of that. That's it. That's all

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you get. Okay, we'll start with you. I got two.

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going with Brian Anger number one, Michael Gallup number two.

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>The punter is number one. Absolutely, dude, he was a weapon.

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I know he was one of the best players on

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.399
<v Speaker 1>the team. Still a punter, one of the best players

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 1>on the team this year. Uh. And then for number three,

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>dang it, man Cursey. So now you've got a thing

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to go. I think I'm going Persey or

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna hate me. Urban Runde. Yeah, big body

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 1>in the middle him this year. I agree, we missed

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 1>him a lot. And so you just cut a Mark Cooper.

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I did not cut, But I'm saying order of importance

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.240
<v Speaker 1>can order of importance? Now? Do we need Coop? Absolutely?

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>We need Coop? Do we need d Law? I think

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we can do do without d Law for that. For

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 1>what he's getting paid, Okay, I do believe that. I

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>think I do think he's a huge contributor to this team,

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously as a leader and effort and all

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that jazz. But I don't think that his performance yields

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>what he's getting paid. So I think that you can

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>find somebody else to do what he does. So wouldn't

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it the same thing be applied to Cooper If the

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Cooper isn't I feel like Cooper is a more dominant

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 1>player when the opportunities are presented to him, But if

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the play caller isn't, if he has to figure that out, right,

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.720
<v Speaker 1>But d Law doesn't need a play caller to make play. Gotcha.

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Those guys are a little different though, because you don't

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 1>have to touch you don't do anything with their contract.

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could try to, you know, restructure a

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.879
<v Speaker 1>deal or something, but they're under a contract. These guys,

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to find a way to make money and

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 1>bring them back. Sure, find money and bring them back.

0:53:57.680 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I just think you're crazy. I'm not gonna lie. That's

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Brian Anger up at the top right, top three. It

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>was a great player, but the top player on that list,

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Brian Anger is one of the most important players on

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>this team. Give me j RN Curse, Randy Gregory, and

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a Marie Cooper. If we're gonna throw Cooper in there,

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>those are my three I had Anger, not including Cooper

0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 1>or Tank. But as part of this conversation, sure, but

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>but I mean the problem with that is, like to

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.919
<v Speaker 1>your point, there, if the if the new league gears

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.319
<v Speaker 1>started today, they'd be over the cap. And and that's

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>just with the guys that are under contract for twenty

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. And there's a ton of guys. Yeah, no draft,

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>which is like ten million of your cap, so they

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:42.439
<v Speaker 1>have to find room. I just, are you a better

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>team by cutting a Marie Cooper? I just I don't.

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it. I don't, I don't see it. Um,

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:51.359
<v Speaker 1>But again, where's the money coming from that? That's the question.

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And now you're gonna restructure Dack's deal that was part

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of that's a planned but um, they're gonna have to

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>find some money somewhere. So to your point, it's not

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:01.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy to talk about that, you know, is there anything?

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And I promise we're gonna get to you wrong. I mean,

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess if we're including those guys, i'd have to

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:09.160
<v Speaker 1>include Mari in there. Um, so I would say, Mari, Randy,

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and I bring back Ron Curse if I can. How

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 1>much is there supposed to be a jump in the cap?

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you know I expected or is it supposed to

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 1>say relatively similar? It's no, it's up way up from

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>last year. It's like two oh eight something like that. Okay,

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>so a decent bump that could potentially help, but even

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.919
<v Speaker 1>then you can't really necessarily do anything until the tag

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>deadline March eighth, March fourteenth. Got ye, Man, I am

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>going to go Hooker because we haven't had a free

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 1>safety around here in a very long time, so I'm

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:42.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna try and keep him. I am definitely doing everything

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.399
<v Speaker 1>that I can to Hooker would be a discount double

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>check too exactly. We need go free safeties. Yeah, obviously

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going to go into the draft looking for one

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>as well, but I'm just saying Hooker, I'm definitely wanting

0:55:56.040 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to keep. Oh man, this is curse. He's high up there.

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I should have started with Curse because he's higher up

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>there for me. So curse Hooker, and I gotta keep

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>an edge. So I'm gonna go with Randy Gregory. Okay,

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.839
<v Speaker 1>if we're especially if we're gonna if we're even thinking

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 1>about Lytton Tank go, We've got to keep. So do

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 1>you think Amari Cooper is replaceable or is that just

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a cap casually that you got to live with at

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>some point. The way that I look at is that

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not using Amari Cooper. He hasn't. I mean, and

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 1>then when we have or and then we're now we're

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 1>getting into health and all of those things, and it

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>just seems to be can we get put him in

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a situation to where he becomes that thirteen hundred fourteen

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred yard receiver and I don't think that Kelly Moore

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna use him that way, and people are just

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be pissed off about the way that we use him.

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that defensive defenses have figured out a way

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to bracket him and Dak will not even look in

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>his direction. And if we're gonna go back to that

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>another year, I just don't want to see us waste

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that asset. The other side of that, too, is um

0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to piggyback on that is sometimes you have to make

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>those decisions with the app and you draft. When you

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>draft Ceedee Lamb seventeenth overall, like part of the trajectory

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>is there is that Ceedee Lamb's a one. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>one receiver at something by the third year in his career.

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.399
<v Speaker 1>So well, I mean, I'm just saying if they were

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<v Speaker 1>to make that decision, that would be part of the

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking of was like, well, we have a number one

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<v Speaker 1>on our team and that's that's what that's what he's

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>got to be in twenty twenty two. So do we

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>all believe that Amari Cooper is worth his salary? He's

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>just not being utilized, Yes, to take advantage? Yes, I would. Ye,

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm on that because you need to allow him to

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<v Speaker 1>be that twenty million dollars a year receiver and he's

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the shelf. It's like buying a Lambeau and

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:43.400
<v Speaker 1>parking it in the garage. Drive yeah, or drive it. Yeah,

0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it's got a whole other gears. Bro. Yeah, exactly. I

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>just hate I didn't hate that for him because I

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>just hate that for him because he's capable. He wants it, sure,

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>but they're not giving it to him. No, So you're

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna fire a man because he's not because you're unwilling

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to give him the ball. And that to me, like,

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that obviously, I'm just projecting what may happen.

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 1>But this in a conversation that you're that they're possibly

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 1>looking at firing Amari Cooper because they are unwilling to

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>give him the ball the way in which they told

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>him they were going to give him the ball when

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they signed a contract, he's not being utilized. One thing

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 1>here that just blows welcome to the NFL people. What

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>great receiver though in the NFL was in a situation

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>like that where he wasn't being utilized to a certain extent.

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And you're saying give him the ball, give him the ball,

0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 1>which big time wide receiver ever said, Oh, I just

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 1>wish they would give me the ball and didn't go

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>out and take it. That's my thing. Is he like,

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>is there a chance that he could step something up

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to allow him to be utilized in a better way?

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Too used to say that's when I'm puss in the

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:51.479
<v Speaker 1>locker room. I can't throw it and catch it. Yeah,

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I know there's same aspect to that this year, but

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>he didn't say it until like what week six? Ye

0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but that is that's not a that's a character.

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be a respect that's I'm saying, that's his

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>way of being respectful. So we can't come out a

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 1>man and say, well, you're not being like you're not

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 1>being like t O, You're not being like you're not

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 1>being like Odell Beckham, You're not being like you know like,

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>So their personality differences but in terms of his capability

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and his production, it is there. Nobody has questions about that. Yeah,

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 1>give him the dog and ball. I mean what should

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you give him the ball? To think about? How this

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>offense changed once he came on anyway, I mean it

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 1>was night and day from where we were. And I

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 1>think the one thing that that worries me and I

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>just gotta get this out, is do I see Ceedee

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Lamb as a number one receiver. I think we've had

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>those games, maybe Kansas City games where him and Gallop

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>were the only receivers we had and we did the

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 1>production just wasn't he agree? And like he was a

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>thousand yard receiver? But I think he left plays on

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the field, you know, And I don't think it was

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 1>as dominant as maybe we thought it would be when

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you watch him in training camp. I'm just saying sometimes

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 1>with roster building, you got to make those decisions. Times

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>can't have everything and hey, it's his time to step up.

0:59:57.520 --> 0:59:58.920
<v Speaker 1>That that's what you would have to do if you

0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:00.440
<v Speaker 1>were to move on from a mark. Let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>it this way. If you had to make a decision

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<v Speaker 1>between having Coop back or d lawback, who you pick him?

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<v Speaker 1>Coop Coop Yep, easy Coop as much as I hate

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<v Speaker 1>means a lot to this defense, as much as I

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>would hate both of that, And I think Coop means

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot to this offense. No, I agree, like the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that they have to fix the most, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is the offense and taking him off this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you're better. And Michael Gallup is

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<v Speaker 1>he ready for the start of next season? I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to have him back, but is he going to

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy and ready to go? From the ACL? Is

1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:32.959
<v Speaker 1>Cedric Wilson gonna get too much money from somebody else

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and gets a deal that everybody's like, wow, wow, people

1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 1>really thought a lot about him. Yeah, you know, if

1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you then what's your receiver corps look like? If you

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<v Speaker 1>go out and you cut Amari Cooper, to me, that

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<v Speaker 1>says that you want to extend your potential winning window.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas if you keep Amari Cooper, that is when, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's win any way we possibly can and we'll figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out later. If you keep a Marie Cooper, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with Cole Moore. Oh, it's gotta be it

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:02.120
<v Speaker 1>gets conversation either. I mean, I mean, I'm saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a it's the other wars the reason why he's

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<v Speaker 1>like getting the ball. Could we just say that blatant week?

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<v Speaker 1>But if he's cut, I think they save twenty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And for twenty million dollars you get, you can get Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get the guys that we're talking about. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean with that twenty million, so I mean it's one

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<v Speaker 1>guy that you could bring in three. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about salary cap problems and this team isn't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look at the same so you're gonna have to scientifically

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<v Speaker 1>put things like that. It's what the Saint Saints are

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<v Speaker 1>a good example. Last year, coming off a big season,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to let go of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys they let go, but they just they had to

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<v Speaker 1>because they were so far over the cap. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys can do other things. They can restructure a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of guys and kick the can down the road

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<v Speaker 1>all damn day long if they want to. But at

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<v Speaker 1>some point you don't want to keep doing that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna catch up to him at some point, not to

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<v Speaker 1>every contract. All right, that's gonna do it for us

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<v Speaker 1>here this week on talking Cowboys. We could talk about

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