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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Chris Simms Pro Football Talk Live, co host Football Night

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Speaker 2: in America, and the Chris Sims Unbuttoned Podcast. All right,

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Speaker 2: let me start with Notre Dame. Let me start with

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Speaker 2: what the college football Playoff Committee did.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Uh, yeah, I think it's I'm with you

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Speaker 3: for I think it's ridiculous right that Notre Dame doesn't

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Speaker 3: get into the college Like, are they one of the

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Speaker 3: twelve best play teams in college football? Without a doubt,

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame could win the national championship. You know, I've

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Speaker 3: been one that's kind of been saying for a few

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Speaker 3: weeks when I do college football stuff here at NBC

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Speaker 3: on Saturdays, it's the best offense in college football systematically,

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Speaker 3: the players, it's the two best running backs, it's NFL receivers,

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Speaker 3: it's a big time NFL tight end. So I'm shocked

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Speaker 3: by that they just got healthy on defense a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. They've been shut down on that side of

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Speaker 3: the ball. I know their schedule was a little less

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Speaker 3: than in totality this year. They got them lucky. You

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Speaker 3: can't ever sit here and tell me Notre Dame tries

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Speaker 3: to schedule a cupcakes. They try to schedule some years

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Speaker 3: though it just doesn't work out. They had the two

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Speaker 3: toughest games to start the season out of anybody in

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Speaker 3: college football. I want the best teams right now. Right

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Speaker 3: Miami's played I mean Notre Dame has played better football

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Speaker 3: than Miami for the last two and a half months.

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Speaker 3: Miami lost at home to unranked Louisville. They lost on

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Speaker 3: the road to unranked SMU. Right, Alabama hasn't played good

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Speaker 3: football in six weeks, and then they go up a

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Speaker 3: spot after getting they should have been blown out worse

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Speaker 3: on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: That to me is what doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: And I don't care about fair I want the twelve

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Speaker 3: best in so I'm a little bit like sorry, JMU

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Speaker 3: and Tulane, I just don't give a damn about you.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame should be in.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a big travesty in my opinion, but

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Speaker 3: this is where.

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Speaker 2: There's always change. You need to have something like this

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Speaker 2: for change. And now you're gonna have change, and now

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be sixteen team playoff. I know I've talked

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Speaker 2: to Rick new Heislb before and he said, why don't

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Speaker 2: we just go to twenty four. Like, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to render the regular season meaningless, but I do. I

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Speaker 2: want to college teams to play quality opponents, right, I

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Speaker 2: want to know if, hey, if we end up with

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Speaker 2: two or three losses, we can make the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna play great quality opponents. I agree, that's what

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Speaker 2: I want. We all benefit from that. Nobody benefits from

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Speaker 2: my team playing Samford. I it's a bad right, you're right.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're right.

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Speaker 3: Teams like Texas and Notre Dame. Maybe they're just gonna go, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what, We're gonna play Northwest Louisiana Alabama State

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Speaker 3: to start the year.

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Speaker 4: For now, I'm sorry, Oh, your ratings aren't good.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, the committee's in a dacas if we lose

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Speaker 3: to make a good game. So you know my fault there.

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Speaker 3: And again, it's about the best teams right now. You know,

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Speaker 3: I know Miami beat Notre Dame in Week one, but

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Speaker 3: let's take into the context freshman quarterback playing on the

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Speaker 3: road Texas A and M they can win the national championship.

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Speaker 3: They had to have a miracle play at the end

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Speaker 3: of the game to win the football game. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't love that Notre Dames and not in it.

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Speaker 3: And I have no horse in this race. I want

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Speaker 3: to see the best teams be in it and the

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Speaker 3: best college football product. And yeah, it feels like they

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Speaker 3: messed up. Oh Miss stays the same. Wait, what is

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Speaker 3: the engine that has driven Old Miss?

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Speaker 4: The coach?

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Speaker 3: That's why everybody wanted to pay them one hundred million

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Speaker 3: a year. They stay and just nothing gets That's like

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Speaker 3: losing your quarterback, if not worse, they should have been

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Speaker 3: dropped down spots at least. So I don't understand any

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Speaker 3: of it. And yes, it looks like it was a

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Speaker 3: little too much trying to be fair to everybody instead

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame athletic director Pete Bavakua will join his hour

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Speaker 2: from now. All right, Kansas City Chiefs, done done.

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Speaker 3: Done, done done done, Yes, I mean it's I don't

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Speaker 3: think they're going to make the playoffs, certainly not. I

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Speaker 3: think it's done done as far as the era of

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Speaker 3: for what we've seen, they're going to have to change

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Speaker 3: the roster a little bit and change their team.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, yes, well put your finger on it, Chris, right,

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Speaker 2: give me one or two things that change with the

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Speaker 3: Okay, first off, I think the first thing is, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, they've never been a great running team. But

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Speaker 3: some of these receivers they have, right, Xavier Worthy has

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Speaker 3: not worked out to the capacity that they intended to

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Speaker 3: as a first round pick. Hollywood Brown, smaller receiver, hasn't

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Speaker 3: really been able to contribute that way. That's why a

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Speaker 3: lot of teams don't like small receivers. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 3: run four two nine, But as soon as I do

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Speaker 3: this and touch you, you run four seven to five,

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Speaker 3: and now you're not that scary, right, So I think

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Speaker 3: they've missed on that, right.

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Speaker 4: The defense is not as special as it used to be.

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Speaker 3: Right when they beat the forty nine ers in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, they were phenomenal, right, Lugerius sneed McDuffie, they

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Speaker 3: had it all. They could do different things. They don't

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Speaker 3: have that luxury. Chris Jones is definitely on the downside

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Speaker 3: of his career to where he's good. But is he

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Speaker 3: a superstar just take over the game weekend and week

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Speaker 3: out kind of player anymore?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: Nick Bolton the linebacker not quite having the year, So

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Speaker 3: they're just they're a good defense, but they're not dominant

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Speaker 3: like years past. And then on the offensive side of

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Speaker 3: the ball, it's just two mahomes rely. I mean, think

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Speaker 3: about last night. Most of the plays that happen are

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Speaker 3: him making magic and they's just not enough of a

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Speaker 3: systematical destruction of a defense on the other side of

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Speaker 4: So that would be my two cents.

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Speaker 5: Stan.

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Speaker 2: I start to look at the AFC. You don't have

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, probably you're not gonna have Joe Burrow or

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna have Patrick Mahomes in there. You start

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Speaker 2: to look at all these marque quarterbacks in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: and this opens the door for Josh Allen, like this

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Speaker 2: is white. I know Buffalo is not great, but if

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Allen, I got no excuses now I should

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Speaker 2: be getting to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean yes, if you look at it

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Speaker 3: at just its base like that premises right there.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but have you seen Buffalo's defense?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: No, me neither, right, we're waiting to see it. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's an issue. You know, I say all the time,

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Speaker 3: we're watching the modern day John Elway to me, and

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Speaker 3: it's like the eighties Broncos or You're like, the team's

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Speaker 3: makes unbelievable plays every game and every big moment, and

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Speaker 3: they win. And then he falls victim to well, they

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Speaker 3: didn't win in the playoffs, is Josh Allen. It's like, well,

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Speaker 3: he can't do everything all the time. I mean, again,

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Speaker 3: that's another game, even to another level of mahomes. Go

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Speaker 3: back and watch the highlights. I mean, it's fourteen to

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Speaker 3: three in the second quarter, it's fourth and seven, and

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Speaker 3: they're already like, we're gonna lose if we don't go

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Speaker 3: for it right here, Josh Allen, and then he runs

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Speaker 3: around for seven seconds and finds a completion. So he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen. Really,

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Speaker 3: he really is. But one man can't win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You need a team. And that's what you worry about Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: They're not real great at receiver, the defense is very average.

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Speaker 3: If the run game doesn't work, there's nothing else that

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Speaker 3: helps Josh Allen. And that's what I worry about with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I'm watching football night in America and you

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Speaker 2: brought up to John Elway comparison. I said, that's app

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Speaker 2: because thank you, Elway was dragging that Denver offense to

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Speaker 2: super Bowls and then they realized that defense wasn't as good.

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Speaker 2: They got burnt out all of those shit and he

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Speaker 2: took all the flat right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, John Olway can't win the big game. John Elway

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Speaker 4: can't win the big game. And that's where he's so great.

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Speaker 3: No other quarterback in football could have gone the super

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Speaker 3: Bowl with some of those teams, that's how good he is.

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Speaker 4: But you know, New England's a complete team in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Denver, we know the offense is just okay, but that

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Speaker 3: defense is a super Bowl defense. And the team that

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Speaker 3: I'll continue to say to watch out for is the

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Speaker 3: team you saw last night. Houston could win and go

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Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. Houston, if their offense is just average,

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Speaker 3: they have a Super Bowl twenty fifteen Broncos twenty thirteen

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Speaker 3: Seahawks type of defense where don't be shocked for sitting

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Speaker 3: their AFC championship Sunday, and the Houston Texans are in

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Speaker 3: it if they can get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Here, when I'm watching the Ravens and they get the

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Speaker 2: touchdown reception it's called a touchdown. And then even the

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Speaker 2: broadcasters thought that it was a touchdown. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was you you have the ball and you take two steps.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I then realize after the fact when they said it's

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Speaker 2: on a touchdown, Now it's three steps when you catch

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, it's three steps, but it doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: It can be two steps and an act commonly known

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Speaker 4: as a football move.

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Speaker 3: Right, and he catches the ball and extends it like

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Speaker 3: this right off the back because he knows, oh no,

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Speaker 3: this guy's going to try to reach and knock the

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Speaker 3: ball in my hand. He takes two giant steps and

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Speaker 3: is a millimeter away from the third step hitting the

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Speaker 3: ground right a millimeter to where like, ooh, the decrete

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Speaker 3: touched the ground. I'm not sure. Now he's not going

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Speaker 3: to turn up fields. He's in the end zone. And

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Speaker 3: this is where we're lacking common sense at refereeing. Right now,

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Speaker 3: you saw it live, you thought it was a touchdown, right,

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Speaker 3: that was enough, And then on top of that, it

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Speaker 3: was called a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: And to me, this doing this and extending the ball

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Speaker 3: Along with the two and three quarter steps he took.

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Speaker 3: There were some questionable calls in that football game last

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Speaker 3: time I checked. When you have to catch a ball,

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Speaker 3: you have to survive the ground watching at a normal speed.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers with the ball trapped on top of his

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Speaker 3: helmet and the other guy has two hands on the

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Speaker 3: ball too, and we're going to say he caught the ball,

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Speaker 3: even though the process of the ball and catching the

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Speaker 3: ball is not complete until you survive the ground and

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Speaker 3: stand up with the ball.

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Speaker 4: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, Baltimore kind of got screwed over yesterday and

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Speaker 3: that one that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, does this quiet down the Mike Tomlins situation in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh at all in your opinion?

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Speaker 1: Not?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean for now for a few days. But they're

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Speaker 4: still going.

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Speaker 3: To be judged by how this ends and what it

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Speaker 2: You're a Steeler fan, and I say, you can make

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Speaker 4: I think that's what they want right now, right, right?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Buccaneers losing. I mean, could Carolina win the division.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't expect it. If you're gonna make

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Speaker 3: And then Tyler Shuck is showing that he's gonna give

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what we got this week.

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Speaker 2: Got, right, You're right, Okay, Vikings got a nice win.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy look good. Yes, I'm still not sure about him. No, No,

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Speaker 3: needs to develop more variety of throws. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 2: The Browns announced Deshaun Watson is going to come back

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Speaker 3: Enough, though, Yeah, I don't know if I've seen enough, right,

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Speaker 4: We know that defense is special.

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Speaker 4: And Tennessee defense is better than people realize.

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Speaker 3: It's just their offense is so bad it makes their

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Speaker 2: Do you think Deshaun Watson plays again?

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Speaker 3: don't even know why you'd want to flirt with it anymore. Right,

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Speaker 3: just be done with it. It didn't work. Move on,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, at the start of the year,

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Speaker 2: size that we can go, Okay, that guy can, that

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's where I'd want to see these last four

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Speaker 3: I would still, no matter what, bring in some sort

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Speaker 3: I think these last four games and how he continues

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Speaker 3: Let's see where that goes. I'll give you a more

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Speaker 2: Got the Eagles and the Chargers. Tonight you got a

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like if the Eagles can't run the

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Speaker 3: we know Philadelphia offense Jalen Hurts not making making decisions

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Chargers winning a close one, even

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chris, Thank you guys. Dan, say hi to

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Speaker 3: those jerks all right, Solms, I said hi.

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Speaker 2: Pete Mavaqua, Notre Dame Athletic director. A couple of months ago,

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Speaker 2: I said, Oh, I look forward to talking to you again.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know we would be talking about this. How

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Speaker 7: Dan, first of all, yeah, thanks, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 7: It's good to see you. Yet yesterday, that's the question.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how we got here. That's kind of

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Speaker 7: what we have a problem with. I don't have a

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Speaker 7: good answer.

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Speaker 6: For you, you know, And.

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Speaker 7: A lot of conversations here on campus the last twenty

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Speaker 7: make one thing clear, Dan, we have no problems with

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Speaker 7: the teams that made it in.

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Speaker 6: They're all great teams.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: Miami's a great team, Alabama's a great team. If Texas

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Speaker 7: Vanderbilt we were a great team. What we're so confused

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Speaker 7: We were led to believe we were in as long

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Speaker 7: you think about that first ranking. You know, we and

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Speaker 7: we were tenth. You know, the only thing that we

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Speaker 7: of a sudden, we're eleventh and on the outside looking in.

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Speaker 7: And you know, when we sit and talk, when I

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Speaker 6: We don't have any good answers for that.

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Speaker 7: So we're just we're just really frustrated that we had

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Speaker 5: Stan.

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Speaker 2: Were you able to lobby at all Sunday morning, you know,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know exactly when the decision was made.

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Speaker 7: You know, you know, we made.

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Speaker 6: Our case, We stayed at our point of view. But again,

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Speaker 7: we took care of business, and Alabama has a really

439
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 7: tough game against an Auburn team that's having a tough year.

440
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 7: And we wake up on Tuesday and we fall below

441
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 7: Alabama for the first time. And it was all about

442
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 7: the fierce conversation between Notre Dame and Alabama. And I

443
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 7: heard something to the effect that Alabama went forward on

444
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 7: fourth down, so that made an impression, and just our

445
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 7: heads were spinning, like where's the logic, where's the rationale?

446
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 6: Why are we being kind.

447
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 7: Of punished and the only ones that seemed to be

448
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 7: moving in the wrong direction and yet winning and having

449
00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 7: an unbelievably you know, dominant end to the season. It

450
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 7: just we're confused, we're sad, and damn we're frustrated.

451
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,719
Speaker 2: And I was told there's nothing that's secret in those meetings.

452
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 2: It eventually gets out. And I was told during last

453
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 2: week that it felt like where Alabama was ranked that

454
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. In the words of my source, you guys

455
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 2: were being set up for disappointment. So this is somebody

456
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: involved in this. And then all of a sudden the

457
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: Miami situation, which if they ranked Miami ahead of you, fine,

458
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with that. I just didn't

459
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: understand the rationale. And then I wondered, did the ACC

460
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: lobby at all? Did what role did the ACC play

461
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 2: in any of this? In your opinion?

462
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 7: Well, I would tell you I mean again, I have

463
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 7: tremendous respect for Miami. You know, the great team, great school,

464
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 7: their athletic director, Dan Radakovich is a good friend, and

465
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 7: all the teams in the ACC great wonderful universities. We

466
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Speaker 7: have no gripes about any of the school in the ACC,

467
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 7: but we were mystified by the actions of the conference

468
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 7: to attack you know, their biggest really business partner in

469
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 7: football and a member of their conference in twenty four

470
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 7: of our other sports. And I would tell you, Dan,

471
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be honest with you if I didn't say

472
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 7: that they have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship

473
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Speaker 7: between the conference and Notre Dame. What do you mean,

474
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 7: just we didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled

475
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 7: out repeatedly and compared to Miami, not by Miami. Miami

476
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 7: has every right to do that, but it raised a

477
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 7: lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots

478
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 7: at us, and you know, that's just not something we

479
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 7: chose to do. We wouldn't choose to do that in

480
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 7: the future. People might disagree with us, but that's just

481
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 7: not something that we'd be comfortable with. And again, we

482
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 7: have no problem with any of these teams. These are

483
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 7: all great teams. You look at those teams, Miami, like

484
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 7: I said, great season, they beat us. You think about Alabama,

485
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 7: and nobody's had more success in college football over the

486
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 7: last decade than Alabama.

487
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 6: But Dan, you know, I mean, you follow the sport

488
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 6: so closely.

489
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 7: Everybody was saying that we were one of a handful

490
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 7: of teams that could win this whole thing and that

491
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 7: we have zero percent chancell even Nick Saban, you know,

492
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 7: nobody knows more about college football maybe in the history

493
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 7: of the world than Nick Saban, you know, and he

494
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 7: said it yesterday, like, how is Notre Dame not in this?

495
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody's just kind of confused and perplexed, and

496
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 7: we don't have good answers for the kids on our team,

497
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 7: for our student athletes.

498
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Speaker 2: Are you're going to reevaluate your relationship with the ACC

499
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Speaker 2: the overall relationship.

500
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Speaker 7: I would just say it's been strained, irreparable, Well you

501
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 7: never say irreparable, but it's opened our eyes and you

502
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 7: know we it caught our attention. But you know, we'll

503
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 7: move past this like we are, you know, as you know,

504
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 7: we're already focused on next season. Uh, you know, we

505
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 7: made the decision not to play in a bowl.

506
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 6: Game, as I know you're you're well aware.

507
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 7: And a lot of a lot of people have asked

508
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 7: me about that. And you know when Marcus, we watched

509
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 7: the presentation show, the selection show with the team, and

510
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 7: then Marcus, like he always does, was wonderful, got up

511
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 7: and for somebody that always has great answers, he was

512
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 7: brutally honest with the team and said he didn't have

513
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 7: a lot of answers. Doesn't understand how this happened, Why

514
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 7: this happened, Why a team that thought it was doing

515
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 7: what it needed to do all of a sudden kind

516
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 7: of woke up on kind of the wrong side of this.

517
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 7: And then just as you're kind of dealing with that,

518
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 7: you start getting these calls from other bowls, and you

519
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 7: know that the role of a captain on the Notre

520
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 7: Dame football team is a role that the program and

521
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 7: Marcus takes very very seriously. And he could talked to

522
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 7: all the captains, you know, I said, hey, what are

523
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 7: you guys thinking, What's what does the team thinking?

524
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 6: Let's talk about this, And you know.

525
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 7: To a person, the captains and some of the other

526
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 7: you know, underclassmen on the team said, listen, we are

527
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 7: such a close knit team.

528
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 6: We've done so much this season.

529
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 7: We overcame those two opening losses, we rallied, we dominated

530
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 7: in the last ten games. We can't imagine taking the

531
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 7: field not as that team. And it's reality, Dan, you

532
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 7: know that certain players wouldn't participate in that game. You

533
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 7: think about somebody with the future that he has, like

534
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 7: a Jeremiah Love, a Jadarian Price, Eli Rarid and you

535
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 7: know Emil Wagner, who's one of the most impressive people

536
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 7: I've met in my life. Hopefully after he's done playing football,

537
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 7: I hope he runs for president one day.

538
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 6: It just wouldn't be the same.

539
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 7: And you know, made the decision that it was time

540
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 7: to start thinking about next season. Give these these student

541
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 7: athletes a break, they have exams coming up, and then

542
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 7: you know, really hopefully they'll they'll go home and spend

543
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 7: Christmas in the holidays with their family and friends.

544
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: It feels like a message being sent as well, Pete.

545
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 6: Well we're not happy, Dan, that's for sure.

546
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Help me understand this though. So are you guaranteed a

547
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: playoff berth if you're twelve or higher next season?

548
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

549
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 7: I don't want to say too much about the memorandum

550
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 7: of understanding, but that's certainly been reported. That's out there,

551
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 7: and what you said is accurate.

552
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: So next year, if you're ranked in the top twelve,

553
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: you're automatically in the playoffs. Correct, Okay? And everybody agreed that,

554
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: like this was drawn up by Notre Dame, and then

555
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff Committee said we'll sign off on that.

556
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 7: Well, it was part of the negotiations as we were

557
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 7: contemplating the various changes that go into the committee and

558
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 7: in preparation for the extension of the ESPN deal.

559
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: Are we looking at a sixteen team field next season?

560
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 7: Dan, I go back to what I said when you

561
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 7: were here on campus for the USC game. I firmly

562
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 7: believe that the right answer is sixteen teams with five

563
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 7: automatic qualifiers and eleven at large, and maybe there's no

564
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 7: perfect answers. You know, think about this year, Dan, I

565
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 7: for the seing we were four teams, there wouldn't be

566
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 7: any arguments. I mean, those four teams, I think that's

567
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 7: crystal clear. Those are the right four teams. I don't

568
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 7: think anybody would argue. So for twelve fourteen sixteen. I

569
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 7: happened to think sixteen is the answer. I think the

570
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 7: majority of the vast and overwhelming majority of the people

571
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 7: in the college football management committee room agree with me.

572
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 7: I think anything beyond sixteen, in my opinion, is a

573
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 7: mistake because it would interfere with the importance of the

574
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 7: regular season. And oh, by the way, did we feel

575
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 7: that this year?

576
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: Right? But that's important?

577
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 8: Right?

578
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we knew we had.

579
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 6: Two tough games played.

580
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 7: You know, well, we certainly got better over the course

581
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 7: of the season, but we lost to two great teams

582
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 7: by a total of four points. We felt we had

583
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 7: zero wiggle room. We felt we did what we needed

584
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 7: to do. It turns out we didn't have a chance, right,

585
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 7: And that's what's so disappointing. But I think sixteen teams

586
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 7: with the five and eleven format is the way to go, Dan.

587
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: Pete mcvaqua, Notre Dame Athletic director joining us. But when

588
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: is this voted on? When is this decided or is

589
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: it already decided now?

590
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 7: It's been a series of conversations for the better part

591
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 7: of a year or more. As you saw, it was

592
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 7: reported that we have a bit of an extension from

593
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 7: when we need to inform ESPN of what the format

594
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 7: will be. We'll need as a group over the National

595
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 7: Championship weekend. I'm not sure if anything's going to get

596
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 7: resolved as it relates to format in that room at

597
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 7: that time, but these conversations are ongoing. If I had

598
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 7: to guess what happens next year, I think there's a

599
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 7: good chance we stay at twelve. I hope we can

600
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 7: keep pushing for sixteen, But Dan, I just don't know

601
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 7: how that's going to end.

602
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: College football is at a crossroads, it feels like. But

603
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: it does take something to make change. So maybe what

604
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: happened here with Notre Dame brings about change, so it

605
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: could be a catalyst. Do you see it that way?

606
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 7: Well, again, I we're frustrated with the process, not the teams.

607
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 7: They're all great teams, and it's a bunch of teams

608
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 7: BYU has a great argument, Texas, Vanderbilt, Miami, Alabama, Notre Dame.

609
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 7: We all have great arguments. It's the process that bothers us.

610
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: Well, those ranking shows bother me, Pete, because well they.

611
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 7: Bothered me too, because you know, if we said, well,

612
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 7: if we had assembled as a team on Sunday and

613
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 7: rankings hadn't told us for the previous weeks, we're in,

614
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 7: we're in, we're in. Take care of business, take care

615
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 7: of business. And hey, you know what, Notre Dame, you're eleven,

616
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 7: and now you're going to get squeezed out because the

617
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 7: conference tie ins and Miami beat you, And hey, I

618
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 7: get it. But these ranking shows, as I said yesterday,

619
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 7: like what's the point why kind of send these signals

620
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 7: and get the hopes up of these of these teams,

621
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 7: these coaches, these kids on the team that believe they're

622
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 7: doing everything necessary. And then, like I said, it just

623
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 7: felt in that room a collective sense of the rug

624
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 7: being taken out from under us without any explanation that

625
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 7: I've heard, Dan that has me feeling better about it.

626
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Casual Fan, here's this and says it's sour grapes, Notre

627
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: Dame trying to be bigger than everybody more important. You

628
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: would say, what.

629
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 7: Well, listen, everybody kind of wants to do right by

630
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 7: their team. We felt like we did what we needed

631
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 7: to do this season to earn a spot in the

632
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 7: college football playoffs. We feel that we have one of

633
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 7: the very best teams in the country. I think the

634
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 7: majority of people who follow this sport so closely agreed.

635
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 7: Every indication we had from that first ranking suggested that

636
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 7: that committee agreed with us. We were always being compared

637
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 7: to Alabama. We couldn't possibly have ended the year any

638
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 7: better than we did. I get why people think it's

639
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 7: sour grapes, but you know it's disappointment.

640
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: Dan.

641
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 7: I mean this is we take this seriously, as do

642
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 7: other universities. And you know, the rankings can't just be

643
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 7: musical chairs at some you know, fifth grade birthday party.

644
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 7: They have to mean something. And to me, what happened

645
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 7: to us really kind of was alarming.

646
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Just to get you on record, you're not anti pop tarts, right,

647
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: because you guys were reportedly going to the Pop Tart

648
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Bowl to play BYU.

649
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 7: Dan, that the irony in that is. I love pop tarts,

650
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 7: and I particularly love the brown sugar pop tarts. I

651
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 7: probably need too many of them now, I'm a huge

652
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 7: fan of pop tarts. That's nothing to do with pop darts.

653
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to make sure we got that

654
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: on record. I would say, great to talk to you again,

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Speaker 2: but thanks for We appreciate you coming on and giving

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Speaker 2: your side of the thing. If the people watching on

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Speaker 2: TV behind you, what are all those numbers behind you?

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Speaker 7: So these behind me, these are actual bench seats from

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Speaker 7: Notre Dame Stadium. So when we did the extension and

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Speaker 7: the renovation and created crossroads here, there were some of

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Speaker 7: the original seats left over. So we created a wall

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Speaker 7: here with some of the original bench seats in Notre

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Speaker 7: Dame Stadium. So this is the back of my office

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Speaker 7: that you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: How old are those seats?

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Speaker 7: Probably some of them different ages but on different panels,

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Speaker 7: but some of them are over a century old.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, Pete, We appreciate your time now.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on DAN and good to see

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Speaker 7: you and hope to see us soon.

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Speaker 2: That's Pete Mavauqua. He's the Notre Dame Athletic director.

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Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel, college football analyst, works for CBS, joining us

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Speaker 2: on the program. Right do we talk about what the

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Speaker 2: committee got right or what the committee got wrong?

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Speaker 8: I think the answer is we're all kind of lost

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Speaker 8: in a world that for six weeks we were told

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Speaker 8: that Notre Dame was better than Miami. We all made

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Speaker 8: our proclamations about how that game went on the field

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Speaker 8: to play in week one, but to do it for

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Speaker 8: six weeks and then choose the week after neither one

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Speaker 8: played to make the adjustment, That to me is time

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Speaker 8: for a change. And I don't blame anybody, but all

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Speaker 8: of a sudden, you've teased Notre Dame for too long

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Speaker 8: to do this to them, and I see now they're

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Speaker 8: taking their ball and going home.

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Speaker 5: They're not going to play in a bowl game. This

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Speaker 5: is bad for college football.

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Speaker 2: Well what do you make of that decision to not

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Speaker 2: play in the bowl game against BYU.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a sign of the times.

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Speaker 8: We saw Iowa State, we saw Kansas State also make

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Speaker 8: similar toss vision, so obviously coaching changes there as part

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Speaker 8: of it. But I think bowl games are going to

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Speaker 8: end up being the first game of the year.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 8: I think we're going to see a bunch of these

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Speaker 8: bulls go by way of the whales. And I also

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Speaker 8: think the college Football Playoff is going to go as

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Speaker 8: they extended that deadline to January twenty third, I think

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Speaker 8: we're going to go right past sixteen all the way

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Speaker 8: to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, we're going to get rid of

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Speaker 2: bowl games? What do you mean by bowl games will

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Speaker 2: be the first game of the year.

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Speaker 8: I think we're going to have a hard time talking

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Speaker 8: a bunch of teams into playing in the postseason. Maybe

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Speaker 8: I'm wrong, and I hope I am because I remember

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Speaker 8: vividly how much I enjoyed them, both as a player

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Speaker 8: and as coach. But I just think in this day

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Speaker 8: of transaction football, where people are coming and going, that

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Speaker 8: there are going to be a lot of teams and

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Speaker 8: we're going to see a lot of players that aren't

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Speaker 8: going to participate, and I think that's a shame. So

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of these

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Speaker 8: bowl games get moved to the front end of a

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Speaker 8: college football.

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Speaker 2: Season, does Alabama deserve to be in not?

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Speaker 8: Based on the eye test, they were not themselves. Give

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Speaker 8: Georgia a lot of credit for that, but that was

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Speaker 8: not a good looking football team. And you know those

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Speaker 8: two conference championship games, the ACS, excuse me, the SEC.

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Speaker 5: And the Big Ten.

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Speaker 8: For there to be that little movement in the CFP

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Speaker 8: rankings meant that they were basically not important enough to

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Speaker 8: make changes.

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Speaker 5: That to me signals of time.

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Speaker 8: We're going to change those out, We're not going to

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Speaker 8: have those, We're going to end up having play in

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Speaker 8: games to replace the money.

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Speaker 2: And I'm wondering about these weekly ranking shows that ESPN

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Speaker 2: has right, and I think it puts the College Football

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Speaker 2: Committee in a really precarious position because they have to

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Speaker 2: explain themselves and they don't do a very good job

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Speaker 2: explaining themselves.

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Speaker 8: No, they don't, and the poor communicator in this case,

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Speaker 8: Hunter Yrchek, the CFP chairman, has to try to make

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Speaker 8: sense of things. And I mean, for the for six weeks,

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Speaker 8: you basically said that that Miami is not as good

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Speaker 8: as Notre Dame because Notre Dame's on this fabulous run.

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame finishes the run Miami finishes the season and

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Speaker 8: then you flip them.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: It brings into question all sorts of things, which isn't

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Speaker 8: fair to the committee, but ultimately they have to answer.

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Speaker 8: So these shows to me ought to be one show,

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Speaker 8: the last one. And I understand how television works. We

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Speaker 8: like our cake and eat it too. We like people's

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Speaker 8: eyeballs and commercials and all that stuff. But that was

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Speaker 8: that was difficult. I knew the committee was in trouble.

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Speaker 8: When bou corgan Is, the committee chaired, Dan said, as

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Speaker 8: you know, we like wins and we value wins. When

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Speaker 8: he came up with that pearl, I said, now that's

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Speaker 8: that's common sense.

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Speaker 2: He's Rick new Heisl, CBS college football analyst, former college

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Speaker 2: football head coach. If I would have told you five

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Speaker 2: months ago Indiana is going to be undefeated, number one

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Speaker 2: team in the country, and they're going to have the

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Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner and Notre Dame is not going to

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, you would have said.

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Speaker 8: Where's the statue of Signetti? The guy has pulled a

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Speaker 8: rabbit out of his hat.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that's comparable to what he's accomplished, Because

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Speaker 2: I do think it's being underrated what he did growing

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Speaker 2: up in the Midwest, knowing what Indiana football was and

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Speaker 2: they want to be a basketball school and what he's

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Speaker 2: done in two years time is working.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we're working so hard to figure out

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Speaker 8: how it could have happened. And obviously with a transfer

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Speaker 8: portal and his experience at James Madison and a lot

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Speaker 8: of really good players, the sarat kid and others that

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Speaker 8: came with him from James Madison. But at the end

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Speaker 8: of the day, let's just stop and admire the work done.

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Speaker 8: It is phenomenal. It is out of this world. This

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Speaker 8: is a program that was the losingest program in all

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Speaker 8: of college football. No one had lost more games, and

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Speaker 8: for them to go and have this run that they

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Speaker 8: have enjoyed eleven and two last year and now sitting

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Speaker 8: there at thirteen and zho and the number one team

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Speaker 8: in the land going to a Rose Bowl. If you're

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Speaker 8: a Hoosier fan, you're going just don't wake me up.

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Speaker 8: Just keep this thing rolling. And now you know we're

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Speaker 8: going to be listening to Abba played Fernando for on

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Speaker 8: and on and on.

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Speaker 2: How many teams can win the title?

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Speaker 5: I think seven. I think I like maybe maybe eight.

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Speaker 8: I think the top seven teams are all absolutely good

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Speaker 8: enough to do it, and as we saw over the weekend,

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Speaker 8: defense plays right did Those were games?

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Speaker 5: I think all went under.

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Speaker 8: So if you have the top seven, and I think

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Speaker 8: if I'm looking past the seventh team, I kind of

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Speaker 8: like Miami, I think Miami is dangerous.

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Speaker 5: Carson Beck gets on a heater.

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Speaker 2: How did Penn State do in the big picture here?

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Speaker 8: A whole lot of a whole lot of you know, consternation,

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Speaker 8: and a whole lot of time and money spent to

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Speaker 8: get the same coach. I mean, Matt Campbell's a fine coach,

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Speaker 8: but he has no better resume than James Franklin when

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Speaker 8: he got there, and James Franklin had a great run.

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Speaker 8: I understand the whiplash of the three games and why

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Speaker 8: it happened, but Matt Campbell's going to have to go

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Speaker 8: aways to be better than what James Franklin is. And

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Speaker 8: right now, if you're looking at Virginia Tech and Penn State,

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Speaker 8: the momentum is clearly with Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: I was told over the weekend that we're going to

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Speaker 2: sixteen teams with the playoff next year.

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Speaker 8: I think I think, you know, as the old saying

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Speaker 8: goes the answers money?

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Speaker 5: Now, what was the question? Right?

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Speaker 2: But given the noted Aame situation.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be shocked if we go right through it.

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Speaker 8: I really wouldn't, because to get to twenty four. Now

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Speaker 8: you can start supplanning some of these conference championship games,

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Speaker 8: which right now after the weekend, we saw that even

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Speaker 8: with Alabama looking that terrible, didn't move a spot. Ohio

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Speaker 8: State lost the game, but is the two seed and

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Speaker 8: nothing really matters. All they did is risk players. I

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Speaker 8: think we're going to look for games to supplant those,

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Speaker 8: and in so doing we're going to end up at

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Speaker 8: a number that's larger than sixteen. Why would we stop

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Speaker 8: knowing that we're probably going to get there anyway?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the conference championships have always been a

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Speaker 2: money grab. Sure, right, that's all. That's why they just

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Speaker 2: like basketball.

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Speaker 8: Just like basketball, conference tournaments are a money grab. They

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Speaker 8: don't really mean that much when you're in the power

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Speaker 8: for structure. Now for the ACC and the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 8: they're important games because loser is out, and in this

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Speaker 8: game even winner was out. I wonder if they might

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Speaker 8: make it deal with the Notre Dame in the ACC.

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Speaker 8: If the ACC doesn't have a champion, as as Duke

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Speaker 8: was that Notre Dame can be their champion. Remember Notre

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Speaker 8: Dame went as there as an ACC team back in

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Speaker 8: the COVID year.

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Speaker 2: Who would you make the commissioner of college football? Oh goodness,

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Speaker 2: is there somebody who can do that? Jobs as big as.

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Speaker 8: It is, it's all it is is given the bad news, right,

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Speaker 8: It's it's the guy who can come up and tell people,

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Speaker 8: or or the the woman who can come up and

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Speaker 8: tell people things that they don't.

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Speaker 2: Necessarily their commissioner, like somebody like Goodell, like scheduling. You

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Speaker 2: know he's running or they are running everything here.

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Speaker 8: I'm available, Dan, I just want to make you you

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Speaker 8: got a great life.

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Speaker 2: You don't want this.

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Speaker 5: I got, I got my I'm working on my grip.

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Speaker 2: Okay, enough people hate you, you don't need more people

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Speaker 2: to hate you.

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Speaker 8: It's an excellent point, Dan, it's an excellent point.

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Speaker 5: I don't need that nonsense events.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: I'm always wonderful to be with you.

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Speaker 8: Happy holidays, and I'll have a song for you the

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Speaker 8: next time we talk.

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Speaker 2: Rick new Eiel