WEBVTT - #533 - Tech N9ne 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.359 Man, you got to check me out on the Bootleg 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:04.000 keV podcast. Man, we just talked for a long time. 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.520 Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody. Man, 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.800 we got one of the biggest radio shows in the country, 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.760 syndicated in almost one hundred cities all over. Shout out 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.800 to iHeartRadio. All right, some of the latest cities that 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:17.759 we've been able to add. Man, want to give a 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.600 shout out to ninety three point nine the Beat in Honolulu. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.720 That's right, Hawaii, We over there going crazy. I also 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.599 want to give a shout out Hot ninety eight three 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.640 and Tucson. Shout out to Tucson going crazy. 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Good to be here, man, of course, I 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.600 can't believe I'm here. I'm half fifteen hours from Australia. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:10.920 You were in Australia. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.640 Yeah, wow. I was only at home with my family 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.520 for like six hours. Man. Then I had to get 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.319 on the plane to come out here to shuit this video. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.720 I don't say people understand because I had to go 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.080 to Thailand for Roland Love last year. That time difference 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:26.600 is the worst. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.360 Australia is like a day ahead, right, you know what 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.480 I'm saying. So when I was going on stage, No, 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.520 when I was getting off stage, it was seven in 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.200 the morning. For you know, when my wife wakes up 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.479 for the kid, you know, so I would call her 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.760 like eleven o'clock at night. It's like seven o'clock in 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.120 the morning in casey right, man, it's. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.280 Horrible, It's horrible. Congrats on the baby, by the way, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:49.880 Thank you man. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.640 New Life, Man, New Life. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.520 You know what I love about your transparency through your 0:01:54.560 --> 0:02:00.200 music over the years, You've always been extremely open about 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.600 open book. Yes, you're because with everything. There's a sacrifice, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.520 and your older kids had to really like wear the 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:11.359 brunt of like you building this career. We see, yes, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.520 you being on the road. Yes, the rain is one 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.160 of my favorite rest, sir. Yes, sir. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.520 Now they're like thirty years old now. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.160 You know, right, So for you to have a baby 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.920 like now, like it's almost like you're in a different space. 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:25.519 Yes, sir. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.000 You know you're you're You're obviously a different person. You know, 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:30.640 we all should be evolving, you know. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:36.440 Yeah, Well, in my mid forties, I met I got 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.320 it on my last album. It's a song called I 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.120 Met a Morph. And what I realized is that that 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.160 morph that I met in my mid forties kind of late, 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.440 is maturity. You know what I'm saying. My maturity started, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.720 you know, really making me pay attention, and I wanted 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.560 to start doing something different. I didn't want to start. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.240 I don't want I don't want to continue to share 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:01.040 my energies, my bright energy and my Harnald energy with 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.040 multiple women anymore. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.200 you know, I've done it my whole life. Yea, and uh, 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.799 and then do nothing but bring me strife. You know 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.760 what I'm saying, or bring other people hurt. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.120 Short term gratification yeah, man, is usually when you get 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.799 the short term gratification, it's at an expensive something else. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.400 Yeah. Man, you know what I'm saying. And I used 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.400 to call it therapy. I need to have my therapy, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.959 you know what I mean. And that's just an ego thing. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.000 And uh, in my mid forties, I wanted to uh 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.560 dial that back, you know. And I met my I 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.560 met my lady who is my wife now, right when 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:45.080 it was happening, you know. And she she she helped me. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.640 She helped the transition, you know what I mean. She 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.080 helped the trans She helped me transition with the drinking. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.480 I'm four years sober now. She did it with me. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.600 When my doctor told me, if I keep drinking like 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.560 I do, mister Kraboloo, You're gonna your heart's gonna explode. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.200 You're gonna you know what I'm saying. I'm like, Okay, 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.680 I quit, you know. So she said, I'll quit with 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.400 you because she knows, like, as a team, if one of. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.040 Us, if one of you guys is doing it's going 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:09.760 to be it's almost impossible. Yeah. 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.280 Yeah, yeah, so she she she helped me with that. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.600 She helped me with a lot of things in my 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.839 life that I didn't know was out of whack, you 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.680 know what I mean. And uh, we're we're evolving every day, man, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.719 you know what I mean, every second. And you know 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.200 that's what Kanye said, I always find it. I always 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.120 find something wrong. That's that's that's the part of evolving. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.280 It's part of life, you know what I'm saying. And uh, 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.280 I figured and we we've been together, this is going 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.039 on eleven years now, you know what I'm saying. So 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.760 we got married in our tenth year, you know what 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:40.960 I mean, last last June. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.080 Yeah, I've made my wife a couple of times. Man. Yeah, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:44.720 you know what I mean. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.400 So we actually lived with each other for a while. 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.200 And that's how I feel like people should do it. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.680 A lot of people, they say, wise man, say only 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.560 foods jump in you know what I'm saying. But I 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.280 can't help fall in love with you that A lot 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.719 of people just jump into it and get married immediately 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.480 before they learn different chemic levels about each other and 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:02.840 you know things that Yeah, when. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.320 You live with someone, yeah, you have to kind of 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.040 like you almost have to get to the point of 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.080 like seeing each other at your lowest, Yes, so you 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.000 can have that like understand that person on another level. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.160 So when you do get married, it's like, Okay, now 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.560 that we've seen each other at our absolute lowest, or 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.440 we know what each other's faults are, we know how 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.800 to deal with each other, we know how to deal 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.039 with certain arguments, certain exactly. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.840 I think people should take time to do that, and 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.640 that's what we did. We took ten years now, not 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.440 saying that she wasn't worthy of marriage in the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.600 you know what I'm saying, because she was, you know 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.560 what I mean. But we have to go through ups 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.640 and downs, and we indeed had ups and downs, you 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.159 know what I'm saying, financially and everything with the irs. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.240 You know what I'm saying. She had to go through 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.400 that with everything, you know, give away my millions and 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.120 get millions back. You know what I'm saying. That was 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.560 a flex you know what I mean. But I think 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.640 people need to go through those type things with each 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.080 other before they actually get married, because people actually have 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.560 problems when they jump in. Not everybody, though, I'm saying, 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.240 I'm not just generalizing. You know, when I say that, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.680 I think people should take time. And that's what we did. Man, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.760 we took time. We took ten years, and we tied 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.720 the knot in ten years. I felt like we had 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.520 been through everything possible, right, you know what I mean? 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.920 And uh, I'm glad we did it. We're best friends. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.040 And with that being said, I said, I want to 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.120 have I want to be connected to that woman. So 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:31.400 we had Alena. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.520 I love this too, now you know, yeah, man, that's 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.159 big bro. Yeah. So it's so crazy too, because, like 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.000 I said, with your transparency, like you've for people who 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.719 because I feel like a lot of generic hip hop fans, 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.320 I feel like twenty twelve twenty I feel like all 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.960 sixes and sevens was a lot of like people's like 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.880 general introduction to what you had going on for so 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.000 many years, right right right, right right right, Because that's 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.200 like when the Wayne Coat sign happens and you're doing 0:06:58.200 --> 0:06:59.360 records with Tea Pain. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.920 And yeah, he'll be crazy, he'll go crazy all that, but. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.760 You know you have had such a crazy like like 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.800 like that Caraboolu is double platinum by now it's platinum, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.400 should be I know it's platinum, but like you know, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.000 you also like like you're in your heyday, you're known 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.560 for being like a crazy motherfucker. Yeah, like you've never 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.880 you know obviously, Eba. Is it ties into that, like. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:30.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I hung my uh player jersey 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.000 up like tapestry like eleven years ago. You know what 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.520 I'm saying. And uh, I'm glad I did. Man saved 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.160 my life because my brother Maxilla was actually writing a 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.520 movie about me called Georgie. We had this We've been 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.600 working on this movie about Tech ninees called Georgie. You know, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.040 the Georgie Porgie pudding Pie story. Kissed the girls and 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.720 make him cry. That was me, you know what I mean? 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.600 And uh, I told him at the end of it, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.080 a lady has to kill me. He said, I'm not 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.520 writing that. I'm not writing that. I'm putting it in 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:01.080 the universe. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.440 I'm like, that's that's damn near the only way that 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:03.880 could end. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.720 That's what I'm saying. You play the game of hearts, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.400 you know, usually the the the punishment is death, you 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.760 know what I'm saying, punishment by death. So I said, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.360 you have to kill Georgie by a lady. You know 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.080 what I'm saying, Lady, you have to do it. He 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:17.800 just stopped. We don't even write it no more. You 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.000 know what I'm saying. He stopped. He's like, I'm not 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.480 writing that, man. You gotta come up with an alternate, uh, ending, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:27.840 you know what I mean. But uh I, I I 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.880 felt like that I had to stop that before that 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.920 came to pass, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.920 Because it was it could have been an inevitable thing 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.800 for sure, even if it was even if it wasn't 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.000 necessarily like actual death, but a form of like something 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.480 like damn, like I don't. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.800 Yeah, like herpes or something that's good, you know what 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.199 I'm saying, Because if I happened to get herpes when 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.800 I was in the field, I would not be here now, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.319 you know. I sure, because if I can't have my Dick, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.280 I can't have no no, no, So sorry, right. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.480 Sometimes I just talk this is I feel like you've 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.719 had one of the most And when we talk about longevity, 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.960 when we talk about errors of your career, what year 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:14.240 is this so far in terms of let's say album 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.040 one to now, So. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.400 What do you mean what year? 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.960 What year in your career are we in? I know, 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.160 I know, like you know, if we go back to 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:20.959 the sway days. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:27.199 And so for me for strange music is twenty five years. Okay, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.360 for Tech nine is forty years because nineteen eighty five, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.600 you know what I'm saying is when I started, you 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.000 know what I mean, this, that and the other not 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.760 professionally bright like in hip hop period, you know what 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.160 I mean. It was forty years of my life and 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.400 year forty that's crazy. Twenty five years for strange music. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:46.840 That's God's crazy. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:47.920 That's crazy. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.959 Yeah. Because even before Strange, it was what was the. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:53.640 Was with Westside? 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.160 No I'm thinking was it was like was Angelic was 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:57.840 on Strange? Right? 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.000 Yeah? Angelic? What was Strange? You know what I'm saying. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.240 The common before the storm was midwest Side and you 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.480 know then you know with midwest Side, I got signed 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.760 with Quincy Jones, you know what I'm saying in ninety seven, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.520 you know what I mean? So, uh, you know those 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.560 records never came out though. Yeah, so my first record 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.480 to come out, well major album to come out, was Angelic, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.160 but midwest Side was the first label in Kansas City 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.040 with Diamond and Don Juan that put out the com 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:30.000 before the Storm, The Worst, the Worst two k stuff 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.160 like that and Celsius. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.880 It's so crazy to think that that's how long it's been, bro, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.080 because I remember first finding your shit, Like my cousin 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:42.600 Austin put me onto your shit. Yeah, what was what 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.240 was the song that they were working the radio off, Angelic. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.080 Angela, It's Alive. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.480 It's yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's crazy too, man, 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:55.160 because like you've survived so many different like waves of music, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.520 like yeah, and even just like your own shit, like 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.880 I was. I think it was a twenty eighteen or 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.640 nineteen was the first time I had ever seen you 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:11.720 on stage without Chris Calico. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.520 and it And I know this sounds crazy because I'm 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.040 you know, going all the way back to the Unholy 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.439 Trinity with you, him and cut was crazy, crazy times. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.160 But the way that you were able to figure out 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.800 a way to like you, I think you were it 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:31.040 was the Gangster, the King and the clown. Listen. That 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.800 tour was fucking insane. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.840 Though it makes me feel good, you know. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.320 It was so good. And like my wife is like 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.280 not a Tech nine fan, she's not a hip hop family. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.360 She just went along, you know, and she's like, Yo, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.400 this was this is cool. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.360 But like you don't have to you don't have to 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.280 know tech nize music to enjoy the music or the show, 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:50.600 you know. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.400 The live show for sure. Yeah yeah, but like, man, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.040 there's been so many different eras of like, you know, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.000 the live show. I mean, yeah, how do you feel 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.800 like obviously you're fifty, you're uh, you're freshly married, you 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.199 got a two year fifty What what am I? You're 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:07.679 over fifty? 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:07.840 Right? 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:09.480 Oh? Yeah, well I don't want. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.920 To Yeah, I don't give a fuck about that. Yeah yeah, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.240 I'll be fifty four this year. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.319 And no, remember, well how long how long do you 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:16.600 plan on doing the touring thing? 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.880 They still want to hear technico man, every everywhere. I 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.520 just did seven shows out there down under Man and uh, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.920 the fans even in the US man, even in the 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.319 states Man they are they're getting younger. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.720 Because how many years straight? Have you toured? Every single 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:33.720 year for twenty five? 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.120 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, you know what I mean? 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.560 And uh, even me and the Rogue Dog Villains, our 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.800 DVS was touring, you know what I'm saying. Not like 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.360 trib didn't put together tours, but we did tours you know, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:51.200 in the area. You know what I mean, but uh uh, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.160 I feel like that the fans are not gonna let 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:59.120 me stop. I mean, do they ask They don't. They 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.719 don't ask Mick Jagger that you know, say, they don't ask. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.240 No, for sure, the rolling students are still know what 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:03.720 I'm saying. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:04.560 They don't, they don't. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.640 But I'm just thinking like that. You just it's like 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.800 so much a part of your lifestyle right to where 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.400 like you damn near spent more time on the road 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:14.840 than you have maybe in your own home at this 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:15.960 in the last. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.600 In the last couple of years, man, I've been we've 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:18.520 been doing less. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:19.040 No. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.600 I've noticed that I went on tour with falling Reversals 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:22.480 only like twenty two. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.240 Days, right, which is different for you because you're just 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.320 like fifty eight, sixty seventy, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.440 So we've been kind of dialing it back and just 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.720 doing festivals. You know, I haven't I don't remember my 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.679 last Tech nine tour. Maybe maybe you know. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.319 It's probably twenty twenty two. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.559 Maybe yeah, maybe maybe maybe you know what I'm saying. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:46.720 But the fans are getting younger every show that I do. Now, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.839 I said, I got to know one thing first though, 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.800 how many of you. That's your first Tech nine show. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.480 The whole fucking place go up. As three thousand people there, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.640 the whole people, the whole place goes up. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.800 I'm likely they'll be able to do that. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.160 So I come to the realization that, uh, they're not 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.760 gonna let me stop now. Me and Travis talked about 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120 last year. We said five more years, and when we 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.600 get to that five, if we still want to go, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.120 we will. So it's four now, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.160 So we don't know. You know what I'm saying, We 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.920 don't know. All I'm saying is that the RDV video 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.240 ran up like crazy already. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.720 It's almost at two million, you know what I mean. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.320 And people still want to hear Tech nine. Man, they 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:26.920 still calling for me. I'm about to go on another 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:31.480 tour now and day after tomorrow with Hollywood and Dead 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.960 We're gonna we're gonna continue the Hollywood nine tour that 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.200 the places we didn't hit on the first one, right, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.080 and now we're gonna go all the way over to 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.640 Canada and give it to them as well, you know 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.800 what I mean. So it's gonna be more young people 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.040 that want to see Tech nine. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.320 Man, do you remember because when I say you're the 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.640 greatest hip hop live before, in my opinion, you're my favorite. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.080 I've probably seen you in concert like fifty times at 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.560 this point, but uh, I think you're the goat on stage. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.400 Do you remember when you really felt like you had 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.680 dialed in that element of what you do? Because I 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.200 remember the first time I ever saw you in concert 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.640 was probably in eighth seven or eight. It was on 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.800 the Bone cotton Mouth King Shit or was it? No? 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.920 It was was it Bone Bone ICP cotton Mouth Kings 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:25.200 three damn walka to her? Yes, So I saw you 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.080 then and that was super early. But I think the 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.160 first time I saw you like headlining some ship was 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:36.320 probably like seven eight. Yeah, but but so much like 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.920 there's so much to your live show and it's evolved 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.840 over the years, But do you remember kind of like 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.920 you gain fans just because they saw you and they 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.560 were like, Yo, this is crazy. I gotta go to 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.480 the music, Like when did you have that dialed in? 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:50.920 Like all the way you feel like me? 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:59.320 Cut Grant and Chris and Travis we would rent out 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.720 a conservatory or something and we'll go over steps for 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.000 Angelic you know what I'm saying. Before we went on tour, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.480 I knew back then, Bro, you know what I'm saying 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:10.800 that we was locked in and we was doing stuff 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.360 that people wasn't doing on stage. I knew back then 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:19.920 that us as a team in uniform, not just in 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:26.240 play clothes, signifies togetherness. So that's saying like, Okay, if 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.520 he's dressed like him, that means if I fuck with him, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.400 I gotta fuck with him. Him him him, you know 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.520 what I'm saying. So I learned that from soldiers, you 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.560 know what I'm saying. So I knew back then early 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.960 on that we were locked in. You know what I mean, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.640 who got this motherfucking household lot? If you got speak? 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:44.600 You know the little dance we do, you know what 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.520 I'm saying. I still do it to this day, you know. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.920 So it's like, uh, I knew it at the beginning 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:56.880 when we were doing it. The steps that is that 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.440 we were doing something that we had never seen. Because 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.920 I started dancing before hip hop. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:04.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.159 I was I was like like MC hammer style, you know, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.080 I was a big boy bring dancing poplock and you 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.560 know what I'm saying, All that so I brought that 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.080 to Tech nine, you know what I mean, And throughout 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.399 the years, if it's something we didn't rehearse at the 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.640 Ballet Conservatory, if I started doing a step that was extra, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.280 they would join in. Or if Chris started doing a 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.560 step that was extra, we do it over Cut said, man, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.240 I'm gonna do the B walk on this. I would 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:30.560 join in, you know what I'm saying, to do it 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.840 with him, you know. So we would add stuff throughout 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.120 the years, you know what I mean. So it's it's 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:43.400 just a magical thing. So now before okay, I'm gonna 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:51.880 talk about this, twenty twenty COVID hits correct. Chris Calico say, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.680 you know, we got a we got a jelly Roll 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.760 tour on the horizon, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.520 And jelly Roll was with Strange, Yeah, said he was. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.600 He had signed to our distribution. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.320 Was that around the time you guys did the Red 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.320 Rocks and there was like the big I think Chris 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:09.399 came out at Red Rocks. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.399 That was like that was like twenty nineteen, yeah, yep, yeah, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.480 so that was like the last hurrah. Yeah, because Chris 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.480 was talking about leaving then and then he came out 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.080 like boom, and the fans like, holy yeah, he's staying. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.040 He's gonna Yeah, he said, he's gonna do some more 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:24.399 years with us, you know what I'm saying. Because he 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.600 was thinking about going on and doing his own label, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:28.879 this and the other, you know what I'm saying. So 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.080 he came out of Red Rocks twenty nineteen. Yeah, boom boom, 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.840 boom boom. It was a big thing, you know. And uh, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.720 twenty twenty came, and then that tour got canceled, the 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.879 Jelly Roll Tour with Take nine, you know, and before 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.040 we went on at Chris Calico said, Yo, teg, I 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.879 can't go for this price no more. You know what 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.000 I'm saying. I gotta have more of I'm gonna go. 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.080 And I said, let me see what I can do. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.000 So I said, you know, I called in the Travis. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.760 I'm like, if you can get him two more hunted, 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.199 I think he'll be good. You know what I mean 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.400 that I'll put him at a you know, a nice 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:06.280 place you know, and travels like tech. Because the tour 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.720 got canceled and now we were trying to go on 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:13.080 tour after that, we're getting reductions. You know what I'm saying, because. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.919 People don't go down because they. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.960 Don't know if people are going to come. So that's 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.200 what the promoters were using against us, like we don't 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:20.960 know what you're going to do, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.120 So paying somebody extra money when we're getting reduction would 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.359 be like shooting, yeah, counter productive to shooting myself in 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.520 the foot. So travel like at this point I would 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.560 I wouldn't do this, but I would ask Chris if 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.000 we can reduce his pay, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.720 And I'm not going to do that, right, No, he's 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.160 not going to do that, you know what I mean. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.080 So I had to call Chris and say that to him. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.320 He's like, I can't go there TECH and I'm like damn. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.080 I'm like okay. I was like, maybe this this just 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.639 this last one. I'm trying to keep him held on. 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.280 Maybe just this last one, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.399 He's like, no, man, I gotta you know, and you know, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.399 during COVID, you know you have to find way to 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.440 take care of your family. He found ways, you know 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.399 what I mean, And to let him see that he 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.879 could do his own. So when he came to me 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.359 and said, I want to leave, but I want to 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.520 let the fans know that we're still connected and ain't 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:14.920 bad blood or nothing, because it's not you know what 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.359 I'm saying. So we created this live stream. We were 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:19.880 doing live streams during. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.760 Yeah, you guys are doing like the concert shit us. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.320 Yeah, because we couldn't tour yea, so we were we 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:25.280 were doing live streams. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:25.480 We can. 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:27.880 You know, we always survived strange music. We're gonna find 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.080 a way, you know what I mean. So Chris said, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.720 let's do a farewell one for me, you know what 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.080 I'm saying, and introduce my new label, Earhouse, And we 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:41.240 did that, you know what I mean. So I'm happy 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.720 doing this for Chris. But on the inside, I ain't 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.760 never said this. On the inside, I'm like, damn IA 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.600 need my brother man right up there, man, my guys, 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.960 because I had to think back to where when I started, 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.479 I was by myself, but not really when I when 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.960 I got with Travis, I brought Grant and Cut and 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.600 Chris came in last. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.399 For sure, I mean, your guys is dynamic on stage. 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.679 Yeah we grab a bottle, yeah yeah, yeah no, but 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.680 your guys dynamic on stage is it's historical. 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.879 Yeah, So with me remembering that, I came in with 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:18.560 full motherfucker right, thank you. I was kind of leery 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.360 about what I would do by myself. I ain't never 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.399 said that because I'm a king, I can you know 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:28.120 what I'm saying. So in my in my heart, I'm like, man, 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:38.080 what am I gonna do without my backup? But once 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:42.240 I start rehearsing by myself, I'm like, Damn, I got 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.320 all this wind myself. You know what I'm saying. I've 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:49.640 always done uh breathing exercises throughout my career that will 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.960 allow me say a whole four bars without breathing. You 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:58.199 know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying for 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.679 a whole four bars. So I had to remember that 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.160 and when I started, when I did my first show 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:09.840 by myself and I rocked it, that gave me the 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.159 confidence because I was worried. I was worried. 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.680 Yeah, I didn't know it. I didn't know what to expect. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.919 Yeah, nobody did. It's not the same without Chris. I 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.920 know it's not the same, but it's fucking. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.440 The way you guys had those led walls and ship 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.520 and the way that like the whole like you're doing 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.800 the outfit changes. It also probably gave you time to 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.680 breathe a little, you know, reset it did Chris. 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.240 Chris being there gave Chris can cut them being there 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.680 gave me a lot of breathing time. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:36.480 You know what I'm saying. 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:38.840 I don't have that no more. So now I say, 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.800 I'm getting my DMX on. You know what I'm saying, resting, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.480 May God rest the soul. I'm getting my Kendrick on. 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.879 You know what I'm saying. I'm getting my jay z on. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.280 You know what I'm saying. So I realized after a 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.520 first couple of the first couple of shows that I 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.280 got this ship. You know what I'm saying. And you 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:02.399 know it would I would love for Chris to return, 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:04.520 but I got. 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:08.080 It, you know Yeah, I think I think before it's 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.760 all said and done, man, the Unholy Trinity's got to 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.040 get back together for one one more fucking Hurrah dog, 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.280 even if it's one show, even if it's like a 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:19.080 single show in casey or something like that. 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.600 I will never say never, but I'm saying, maybe you'll 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:24.600 get the duo. 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:26.880 Yeah, you and Chris is definitely on the table. 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:28.520 You know what I'm saying, maybe you'll get the duo 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.080 TRAVI and Cuddy ain't gonna never see how to eye. 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.000 That's fair, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.719 Some things were said that I can't even fix because 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.320 you know, me and some of the people that strained 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.639 when we were doing COSM, we's for sure, you know, 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.159 we had we had we had uh talks with Travis 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:51.879 about Cuddy and he was like, man, He's like, so 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.560 you think the fans want to hear Cuddy and everybody 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.640 in the office like, yes, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.679 And Travis was like, I ain't got no problem, man, 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.800 I just I just don't feel I don't feel complete, 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.320 you know what I'm saying with that part. You know 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.680 what I'm saying, the misunderstanding they had, you know what 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.439 I'm saying, And I gotta I gotta feel that, you 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.720 know what I'm saying, And as men, I gotta feel. 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.640 You know, I can't that it wasn't petty for trap 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:15.159 or nothing like that. I don't think it's petty. I 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.159 just think that it never got resolved. You know. It 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.200 was something that brought Trav's wife into it. You know 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:20.720 what I'm saying, and. 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.200 Yeah, I feel like once you cross certain you know, yeah, 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:24.840 you know like. 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.800 I've never seen when Kanye said this about jay Z's 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.359 kids or whatever. But after you cross that, it's. 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.640 Hard to walk back that. You get like, I'm fair 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:37.000 game ship. 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.600 Yeah, when you're talking about some family. 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.040 It's like it's just hard to you know, it's. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.600 You know, I don't know if you'll ever be able 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.439 to come back to that, you know what I mean. 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:51.240 I think luckily nobody else on the label I've done 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:52.800 anything like that. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:54.800 And you know, I. 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:59.399 Remember I remember talking to Cuddy about it, you know, 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.199 and he's like, oh, we're talking about him. You know. 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.440 But you know, if you say on a song, that's 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.880 why I fucked Joe, bitch, you fat motherfucker, Like pup, 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.800 you can't say that in the circle you're in. You 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.159 know what I'm saying. When when you're breaking up, you 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.200 know what I'm saying with the group. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.280 You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.520 It's like, yeah, it's like I know, like, you know, 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.040 our good friend just bad taste, you know, bad timing. 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.560 You know, I know that we have a mutual friend 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.000 who's a psycho or boy ritz, I know, like he 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.600 had hit had his Uh it wasn't that bad, but 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.240 it wasn't anything you couldn't come back from. 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.360 No, because he's on Cosm right. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.520 And and like and like and like you know because 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.040 like like again, it wasn't ever anything like and then 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.640 he could always be like I was drunk man, Yeah, yeah, 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.879 And if you've been on tour with Rich you're like, 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.120 you know, this motherfucker's a psycho, right, Like. 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:57.560 Well, you know, when people lose something. I'm not generalizing, 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:02.359 but uh, some people, what I've learned over the years, 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:06.200 they deflect and it's always the label's. 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.480 Fault instead of looking in the mirror. 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.679 Yes, yeah, you know what I mean, and that and 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.439 that's what some people do. I don't remember none of 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.960 the ship, you know what I mean? And trap, like, 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.120 how don't you remember the ship that people have done 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.119 to us? I'm like, I don't know, but I know 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.600 that the music is first and foremost, you know, for sure, 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:28.200 And we did Cosm and everybody came back, almost everybody, 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.200 Chris Kellicole almost made it. But we're trying to get 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.640 some We're trying to get some some back business done 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:34.600 before we go forward. 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.840 You know who else on the new album? Me? 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.840 Because this album fifty eight sixteen Forrest is coming out 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.680 this summer. When black first came to me, it's like, man, 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.879 you need to do an album. 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.800 Is that your bar code number? What? 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:52.679 No? 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.520 No, no, okay, you have your bar code number. 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.600 That's six six triple a FO that's in that house. 0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:58.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:02.240 That's something else, you know to shit. When Blackwall first 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.080 came to me, he said, man, people want to hear you. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:10.680 Do you without no collaborations? I said, that's boring as fuck. 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:12.920 You know, my whole career, I'm always collabed. You know 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:13.320 what I'm saying. 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.280 I mean, you got Tech nine collab as its own 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:15.840 artist page. 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:17.440 I do, I do, I do. But you know, even 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.400 in my on my albums, I got major collapse of course, 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.280 you know what I'm saying. So he telling me that 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.200 people want to hear you, and I'm like, that's boring. 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.320 I went to travel. I said, listen, black Wall, he 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.400 just got out. He's been locked up fifteen years. He's 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.280 the guy that gave me my Tech nine name in 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.080 eighty eight. You know, And uh, I said, black Wall 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.240 said that people want to hear me on the verses, 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:46.240 that's it, and uh I said, I think that's boring 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.240 as fuck, and Trav said, he's. 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:52.240 Right, because you've never given given one of those. 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.919 So my idea was to do an album called fifty 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.359 eight sixteen Forests where I moved there when I was 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:03.480 twelve to seven. So as I got into the writing 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.920 of it, you know, me writing all the verses, maybe 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.840 have you know a few hooks done by some major 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.080 artists or something that's about it, you know what I mean. 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.959 But I got into a couple of songs and I'm like, 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:19.160 this is beautiful. So it turns out to be an 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.720 audio series with seventeen episodes of my life on fifty 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.480 eight sixteen fours from age twelve to age seventeen, when 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.600 I ran away from home to become Tech nine, you 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.240 know I'm saying, on the quest to become Tech nine, 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.120 you know what I mean. So it's in chronological order. 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.240 Only one producer from Kansas City's name is Jaypeas. You 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.440 know what I'm saying. I've never done that one producer. 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.880 He had all seventeen tracks, you know what I mean. 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.840 And this is the album where I don't have any features, 0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.240 you know what I mean. And you know a lot 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.640 of fans been asking for that for a long time. 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.960 You know, Trav' already always been in my ear about it. 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.240 But this is the moment when it made sense to me, 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:04.200 because why how can I have anybody on these verses 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.720 when I'm telling my story? 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.240 Yeah, And like, if you really think about some of 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.400 your I mean not maybe not like radio songs, but 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.760 like your biggest songs for real, like that the fans love, 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.760 they're mostly all you by yourself. If you think about 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.800 like your technicians and ship you know, Einstein, you. 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:21.240 Know what I'm saying. 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:27.720 Oh yeah, eas even the word shit on kod is 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.320 you by yourself? Like that's crazy, Like, yeah, it's probably 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:32.360 my favorite tech song ever. 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.840 Crazy, that's crazy. I never thought of it like that 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:40.160 mental giant, mettal giant. Holy shit, now that one. 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:42.120 It's hard. 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.720 That it's hard. We was tripping on that in Australia 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.840 because we would sound check my, my, my, my sound guys. 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.680 They would sound check with that song, you know what 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.480 I mean? For me and I'll be in there and 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:57.760 you know, seven on the what possessed him that night 0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.360 to do that song? But holy ship, man, you know 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.400 what I'm saying. It's hip hop at its finest for sure, 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.680 but all those songs being by myself. Like you said, 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.920 this is the album where I tell my story with 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.760 only a few major collaborations on the hooks. 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:15.840 So there's some hooks stuff. 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.000 There's some hook stuff, you know what I'm saying, you know, 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:23.000 here and there, But that's about it. But it's special, man, 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.720 it's special and audio series with seventeen episodes about my life. 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:27.720 Anybody's really done that. 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.160 I've never heard it. Yeah, But the last song on 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.920 the album, you know how strange music albums and strange music, 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.640 there's a song after the strange music called JA six 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.000 is about my lucky Jay sixes in ninety one, how 0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:48.200 I could afford to get some Georgian Jordan six black 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.760 infrared color ways. You know what I'm saying. That song 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.480 is after the tag, and it's a humongous one too, 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.800 because it happens what happened was after I ran away, 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.160 two years after that Jay six has occurred, you know 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.480 what I'm saying. And so after the tag, there's a 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.640 song that happened that's some shit that happened two years 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.280 after I ran away, and I put Jay six. I 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.600 put it there like that in case I wanted to 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.239 keep going, right, just in case I don't know if 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:14.520 I'm gonna keep going, you know what I'm saying with 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:14.920 the story. 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.120 But in case, yeah, I mean, because you could always 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.520 do it. I mean, if you get inspired to do so, 0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:23.360 you could always do another album, a continuation of yeah. 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:26.520 From me from becoming Technine. I can do it, but 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.600 I don't want to bore people. But this one is special. 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:36.360 Our DV just coming out, you know, a few days ago, 0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.479 while like last week, you know, let everybody know that, Okay, 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.960 this is gonna be some tech nine nineties kind of 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.040 field beats and everything. You know what I'm saying, It's 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.800 going all the way back to the beginning. JPZ did 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.800 a stand up job with making the beats current but 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.520 still with that feel of Rogue Dogs and Mitch Baide 0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.320 and all that kind of hcladiog stroll feel that Don 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.280 Juan did early on. You know what I mean, what. 0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.920 You You've had the pleasure to change a lot of 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.720 artist lives that aren't necessarily strange music affiliated. You've I 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.960 think about some of the tours that I've been to 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:20.160 Uh yeah, I mean yeah, j Rock, Ko Glass of Malone. 0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:24.880 Malone was on that tour. Dax, Yeah, shout out to Dax, 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:25.480 Freddy Gibbs. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.360 Look how well he's doing. 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.760 Yeah for sure, but it's been it's been so dope. 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.960 But I want to know because you know, Fragile was 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.520 such a moment that had been. I would say that 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.320 relationship because a lot of people who don't know, like 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.400 Jay Rock had had to deal with strange you guys 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.920 put out his his was that his first full length album. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.840 It was his first album because he had to do. 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:52.440 Right. 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.400 But that was like his first solo album that came out, 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.200 follow Me Home, Follow Me Home. Yeah, And that was 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.120 a partnership you guys had with TD. We see Kendrick's 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:02.479 on the road with Rocky. 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.080 Kendrick was on the road with Ray Jock. Uh, Jay Rock. 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:13.120 I almost said Ray j Dude Kendricks on the road 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.400 with Jay Rock because the guy that was out there 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:21.640 before Jay Rock's Kim Folk MJ. He got killed in Reno, 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.040 you know what I mean. On that tour, Damn. You 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:31.600 know we were we were performing at one of the 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.160 venues out there and it was way after the venue, 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:35.800 like three o'clock in the morning. We were sitting in 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.600 the sitting in the in the alley way, waiting for 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.360 the bus drivers. You know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.440 That's back when I was still partying ship. I'm up 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.280 partying with bitches everything, you know what I'm saying. And 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:53.360 uh we heard shots three o'clock in the morning, and uh, 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.920 m J. He you know, I guess he was on 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.080 the phone with his wife because the bus is going crazy. 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:00.320 He wants to go call us life. You know what 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:00.960 I'm saying, Let. 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.760 Me walk away, call my wife, make sure she does bullshit. 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.640 I guess they said it was some like Cambodian crips 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:12.880 across the street at the the liquor store early on. 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:14.560 Just looking over there, you know what I'm saying. And 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.680 everybody knows, you know, where we come from, the neighborhoods 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.280 and all that kind of thing, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.680 So I guess MJ had on a red J Rock shirt. 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:26.680 MJ is actually the crip. You know what I'm saying. 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.359 I have on read J Rock shirt because he's who's 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.640 on he's on tour with he's on the phone's wife. 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.000 And then three of them walked up and they said 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.239 that he said, uh, They said, y'all ready and then 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.880 tried to score up with him. Cut out, Houn, come 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.520 out the buzz like what you're trying to jump my nigga? 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:42.879 You know what I'm saying. That's when the guys pulled 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.040 out and shot MJ all in the lower his lower park. 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.080 He was still alive, you know what I'm saying. I 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:49.680 talked to him on the phone a couple of days 0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.000 later U at the hospital. We had to leave him 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.120 there in Reno at the hospital, you know, and and 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.480 go on to South Salt Lake City. By the time 0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.920 we got to Salt Lake City, we got the call 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.400 all the buck blood clots killed him, you know. So 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.839 that's when they had to call on Kendrick to come 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.480 and fill fill out, fill in for MJ. It was hard, man, 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.840 it was hard. It was hard. And that's how I 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.799 met Kendrick, and that's when he gave me the section 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.080 eighty CD and that's when I put him on all 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.800 sixes and seven so nobody knew who he was. And 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.400 I love music with me and my family Marcus Jads 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.120 and then we did the one you're talking about, Fragile 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.520 after that when City just came. 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.600 Out, Yeah, which went platinum. 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:30.640 Yeah, it went platinum. 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:36.759 That was was fragile before Hood Go Crazy. Rod was 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:42.360 after Okay, okay, okay, m what was it something about? 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.440 Because I feel like Kendrick was like the kind of 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.439 artists because around that time I had him on my show, 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.240 I think when I was in Vegas and like twenty 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:49.759 ten he came and freest out on the show. And 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.279 this was right before section eighty dropped. But like if 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.520 you were around him, you kind of knew, like, this 0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:56.800 dude's alien. 0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.320 For reason, Yes he was. He was a quiet dude 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:04.200 still that to this day. But you can tell that. 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.359 You know, Jay Rock would play me black hippie shit 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.400 on the bus. He was, you know, and I'm like, 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.440 who is that? That's k Dot? This is when j 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:12.160 was on the tour. 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:12.839 It's k Dot. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:17.239 He's crazy. You know, I'm like, katok crazy, you know 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.080 what I'm saying. And then I finally met him, and 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.360 you know, on that tour we found out that he 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:23.400 was a special. 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:24.239 You know what I mean. 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.840 He watched me every night on stage when I was performing. 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.640 When you see his show now, man, you know, nothing 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:38.440 resembles Tech nine. He got his own energy, his own ideas. Man, 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.560 it is. It is massive. I watched that show in 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.799 Paris on Hulu or whatever, you know, and I was 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.560 just in awe. Man, you know what I'm saying, what 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.960 he's become on stage, and I've been to multiple tours 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.760 over the years to Kansas City, brings me on stage 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.000 and tells the story of us and all that man 0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.640 and what he's turned into. Man is a mom monster live. Man. 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.520 You know what I'm saying, you guys saying that I'm 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.399 the best show man that nigga, that nigga is. It's 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:07.160 hard to beat. 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.440 You see him on fucking Super Bowl two bows crazy. 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:12.879 I was there. I was there. 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.360 I bet you were a sad day for you. I 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.319 was there only I know it was. I'm sure halftime was. Son. 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.360 I was there. I was seeing it at Homie. 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.000 At least he gave you a good show to take 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.360 the take your mind off of the score. 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:29.160 I know. I'm gonna tell you like this, Before he 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:35.200 came on stage, the Eagles was. 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:36.319 They was already clapping, y'all. 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.560 They were, they were, they were, they were scoring so much. 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.720 After a while, I just started laughing, like Travis was heated. 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.120 He was just sitting there like this next to me 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.480 was Travis right here, Me right here, my uncle Ike 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.640 right there, my son next to him. You know what 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.480 I'm saying, and you know other people that was with us. 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:58.000 Travis was like he wasn't laughing at all. I'm like, 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.680 I'm eating my food, just laughing like this is old. 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:02.600 I got enough rings. 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.880 It's never enough ring, No for sure, especially what it 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:06.640 does for the city. 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:07.719 No for sure. For sure. 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.319 You know what I mean, the morale and all that 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.279 kind of thing. You know, the parade, we wouldn't have 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.319 the official record like parade we wasn't gonna have no 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.280 more because the last parade they start shooting. 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.040 But you I mean I'm saying, I mean, I feel 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.200 like it's good too for for I mean, you have 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:23.200 the anthem, so if they win, it's good for business. 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.719 It is. Yeah, Red Kingdom. I wrote that shit in 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.600 twenty nineteen. I put it out in twenty nineteen. Isold 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:35.400 king Io did the beat. We lost a year, but 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.440 it's still here after all these years. 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:37.839 For sure. 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:39.480 I took it off the set list though, you know 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.760 they let me know it. And uh, when we lost 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.160 the Super Bowl, I took it off the set list. 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.400 I can't. I can't came brag no more. You know 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:49.160 what I'm saying. But uh, the fans in Australia let 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.160 me know, like we want to hear Red Kingdom, So 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.879 I had to do it a cappella. 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.360 Yeah, just to give them a little taste. 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.080 They like they got Red Kingdom up on the signs 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.480 and shit, I'm like, it's just a song. The people 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:01.560 love who. 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.279 Who was the one artist who you brought on the 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.160 road that gave you a run for your money live 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.120 where you were just like, oh okay you you showed 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.680 up like. 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.719 Shit, I always been the what it is? You know 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:20.080 what I'm saying. 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.120 I know what I'm saying, Like someone who you brought 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.520 on the road, who opened for you where you were 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:24.919 just like yo, that there there. 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.160 No, I didn't have love. I ain't never have my 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.360 jay Z uh DMX moment because. 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.200 Yeah, because I remember when DMX opened for Hope on 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.799 the Hard Knock Live tour. I was like, I don't 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.680 know how jay Z's. 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.160 Nobody ever know they ain't taking nothing away from Ritz, 0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.560 They ain't taking nothing away from or mg K or nothing. 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.960 But no, ain't nobody ever made me feel like holy shit, 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.360 I got to bring my egga, you know what I'm saying. 0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.239 I went on before Ronnie Radkey and following reverse on 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.319 this last tour, you know what I mean. And I 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.080 saw all the ship that they do won't stay. I 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.600 was like, God, damn, I gotta step my ship up, 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.680 you know what I'm saying. Ship like that recently, But 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.799 uh na, man, I ain't never had that jay z 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.960 DMX moment like, Oh, these niggas out here killing it. 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:14.319 I encourage even the openers tear that shit down. Make 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.560 it hard for me. Always tell my artists make it 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:17.040 hard for me. 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.640 What I think is like a real like sign that 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.000 you are amazing at what you do is because I've 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.799 seen you do festivals where it's not a crowd full 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:31.279 of technicians and just cultivate the whole crowd. And that's 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:32.800 the hardest thing to do because it's easy. And I 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.800 wouldn't say it's easy, but it's one thing to perform 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.520 in front of your people. Yeah, it's another thing to 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.600 be like, oh, this is a radio show. 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.960 Yes, radio show. I've done those and killed. 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.319 Them, and you know what I'm saying, It's just different though. 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:49.280 Yeah, man, Yeah, it's like I'm the one backstage hearing 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.480 the crowd going so so right. I love that. I 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.440 love that for people to have that, But it doesn't 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.719 make me feel like, Okay, I got a fucking kill shit. 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.040 You know what I'm saying, because I already know I 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:01.840 kill shit, you know what I mean? My spot is 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:02.560 forever reserved. 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.000 Like forty was great too, when you guys had that 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.520 forty tour, that was great. Talk to me about there. 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.640 There's the moment when you get shouted out by Lil 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:17.640 Wayne when he's incarcerated. Around that time, there was this 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.040 light that was flashed on what you guys are doing 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:24.000 in case, yes, I remember there, Yeah, there was list. 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.239 I remember it might have been Double Excel. Someone on 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.880 YouTube went and showed the operation, and all of a 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.440 sudden it was like, well shit, you know, people are 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.719 paying a lot more attention to what we got going on. 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.120 Tell me how the Little Wayne relationship kind of like 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.360 helped kind of change the trajectory of like opening you 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.480 up to new fans, and how it's still intact to 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:44.120 this day. 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:47.879 Wayne speaking my name saying that he wanted to work 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.440 with me in one hundred three thousand. 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.600 Man, because you're on the Carter four. 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.520 Yeah, I'm on the Carter four. He said he was 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.359 gonna make that happen. I didn't know he was going 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:56.560 to put. 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:58.680 Us both on the same song, which is Yeah, the 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.320 introduwser my favorite part of that. It's crazy for sure. 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.719 And the way I heard it, he said, you want 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.480 to hear your song and he came to Kansas City. 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.720 I'm like, yeah, he played it in Travis's office And 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.480 when Andre came on after me, I was trying to 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:14.160 be cool, but the inside of me is like, holy 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:20.880 fucking ship. Here, I got a song where Andrey I 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.640 was blown away. I was like, holy shit, you know 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.160 what I'm saying. I didn't know he was gonna do that. 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.360 So after that, I noticed that at the gathering of 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.840 the Juggalos, whenever I'd say it, they boo. You know 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.719 what I'm saying, They boo when I say little Waye. 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.280 I'm like, that's my family. 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:37.160 We ain't go do that. 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.800 Yeah, this is for the love of hip hop. Respect 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:43.719 that when I'm here, and they would clap, you know 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.279 what I'm saying, Like, they respected that, you know what 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.040 I'm saying. Because a lot of my fans didn't want 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:52.120 the mainstream over here. They wanted there's a secret, and 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.680 that's how fans do. They are like all fans are 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.200 like they want they want the best kept secret. But 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.600 something like Tech nine you can't keep contained, man, you 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.839 know what I'm saying. So I said a long time ago, 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.400 tech won't go mainstream. The mainstream will go tech. And 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.640 that's what gradually happened, you know what I mean. Wayne, 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.200 was that first thing that happened when he said out 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.000 of the blue, when I forgot who asked him? I 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.080 forgot I was funk Master flex Or. I forgot who 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:22.919 it was, Yeah, asked him when I was in jail, 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.720 who you want to I want to work with my 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.000 main man, Tech nine and Andre two thousand. Everybody's calling me. 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:33.000 I had to fight strange Land, meaning the fans, you 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.040 know what I'm saying, because they wanted to keep that 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.000 shit over there. You know what I'm saying. Lollipop was 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.040 out at the time. I want to hear that shit, 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:43.480 you know what I'm saying. But I fucked with elite artists, 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:49.719 and I adore elite artistry. So Wayne saying that, I 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.440 went to Rikers and said thank you. Me and Traft 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.040 you know, went out to the East Coast and said 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.719 thank you, you know, and he said when I get 0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.719 out his on and it was as soon as he 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.880 got out, he said, come on down here in Florida. 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.080 We got a song. And they played it for me. 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:10.600 Mike Bangor was the engineer. He played it, damn dud. 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:15.120 I'm like, oh my god, get on there and chop 0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.719 that ship up. Wayne came in at twelve midnight, heard 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.200 it the next day and say, yeah, now I'm ready. 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.440 Now I'm ready. That's what I wanted. I'm like, yeah, 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:28.120 you know what I'm saying. And uh, the hood responded, 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.120 Tech killed it. Tech killed it? On all of surprise 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.440 to see Tech on the carter Ford did it. It 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.560 did so well with me for the culture for sure, 0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.280 you know what I'm saying, because when you think about 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:43.319 strange music, did you kind of think subculture? Right? It's yeah, 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.680 you know what I'm saying. So for the culture, that 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:47.680 was a win for me. 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.759 Yeah. It was funny to watch it because it was 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.680 like all of a sudden because you would always kind 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:58.720 of hear people talking about Tech nine and they would, 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.360 you know, because you had the face paint. How you 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:02.439 deal with this your whole career? 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:02.640 Right? 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:06.560 Read here and like, I feel like the Wayne, because 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.320 it always takes somebody when you are doing something underground 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.160 or doing something out of the norm, out of the box, 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.000 for pop culture to kind of embrace it. You kind 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.120 of need like a Wayne to be like, nah, this 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.600 is it, yeah, man. And then I feel like I 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.520 feel like you had gone through me and you had 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:29.560 a conversation. It might have been a backstage in Orlando, 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.560 it might have been to Freddy Gibbs tour, and this 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.719 was around the time breaking into colored houses to drive, 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:44.799 but I remember you were a little frustrated with the 0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.320 lack of support from your own community. 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.200 Of course I've been, I've been. I've been banging that 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.399 my whole career. The message to the black man, all 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.000 those songs. Many why you ain't called me? You know 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:56.560 what I'm saying all that, you know what I'm saying. 0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.200 It's like I've been talking about it because I always 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.560 felt like technol because I am the king, the clown 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.799 and the g I'm three dimensional, that it should be 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.680 for everybody. And that's what started with the gangsters in 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.280 the hood, you know what I'm saying, in Kansas City, 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:13.000 then the metal heads and then the college kids and 0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.560 all that kind of shit, and then the Juggalos, you 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.640 know what I'm saying, and then you know rock and 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.200 roll all that. You know, I felt like that it 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.960 shouldn't exclude my people. 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:22.239 You know what I mean. 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:26.239 So usually when you do something and I don't like 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.520 to generalize, I'm saying that, ain't all black folks, right, 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:35.319 you know for sure painted face, red, spiked hair at 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:35.760 the time. 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:41.239 Nah bro Even now people are like like, you know, 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:45.880 like but it became cool though, but now like there's 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:49.000 this like you know, sub genre of like kind of 0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.600 punk rock you look at like Woozy has done. 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.440 Yeah, playbrook CARDI said, he playbrock CARTI went on and 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.600 said that I was the pioneer of what he does, 0:46:58.680 --> 0:46:59.839 uh image wise, And. 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:00.920 You know I didn't know that. 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.560 Yeah he did like a year and a half ago. 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.200 Shout. I just saw his show and it was it 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.279 was a lot yeah yah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:08.359 yeah yeah he said. 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.879 And you know, I think a lot of people don't know. 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.080 You was just talking about how I've been in it 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.520 for so long and still on the incline and all 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.560 this kind of thing. Man. I always tell my fans 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:23.000 that I'm Alu Card that's Dracula backwards. You know what 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:24.759 I'm saying. I don't look like I'm about to be 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:25.279 fifty four. 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.200 Now you look better than ever, bro, I'm honest. Yeah, 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.759 you look like Yeah, I'm gonna be here. You look 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:32.680 like better than you looked in like two thousand. 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:34.239 Yes, I've seen because he. 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:38.719 Was wearing all that drugs and all that liquor. Yeah. Yeah. 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:40.640 And I don't eat nothing but sour dough bread now, man, 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.000 only we bread on eat white bread. Don't you eat another 0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:47.640 ship because Sarado has health benefits. But that's here you 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.879 need to hear. No there. But it's like certain things 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:53.200 that I changed that my wife implemented, right, you know 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.560 what I mean? And uh, I think that uh people 0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.680 always going to give the props to Tech nine for 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:07.759 what we done early on independently and image wise that 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.560 I got crucified for and I didn't give a fuck. 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.960 You know I have. I have the worst sacrifice across 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.000 my chest, really big. It's been there for years, you know. 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:19.360 And I sacrificed myself for them to run right now. 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.080 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think of like 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.520 Denzel Curry had an album where his face is painted 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.800 NBA young boy had a little wave where he painted 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.160 his face on it on social media decades later, Yeah, 0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.680 decades later, and I just remember like you being chack 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.200 at it or weekend it. Yeah for sure, weekend it, 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.160 for sure. But you were put into this like box 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.560 because I think around that time, like there was like 0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:43.279 you know, it was also kids were a lot more 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:44.600 shallow with their taste back then. 0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.920 I think I think I think some some of the 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:54.960 culture they think, I said, some of the culture. People 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.080 in the culture, they think that when you do stuff 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.000 like that, like paint your face. I have a Bishops 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:09.400 robe on with red spiked haear that that's me saying 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.840 that I don't have the skill to get people's attention, 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:13.880 you know what I'm saying. 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.200 So let me but the rest to get the attention. Yeah, 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:17.640 they already write you off. 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.480 They write me off. But the motherfuckers found out that 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.560 I can do this shit butt naked with none of 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.400 that shit, and fuck all you niggas up lyrically. You 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.160 know what I'm saying. This is how I feel right 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:27.800 and that's and that's what people know, you know, and 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:29.279 know when they get on the song with me, they 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:30.759 really got to go you know what I'm saying, not 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:32.920 saying that you got to chop every time you You know, 0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:34.680 even though that's all people say me, they want to 0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.719 race me. I'm tired of racing motherfuckers. You know. They 0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:39.200 don't have to race me on songs. I can do 0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:40.279 hip hop shit. You know what I'm saying. 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:40.560 We can. 0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:42.960 Me and Conway just did some shit for saying on 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:43.560 my last album. 0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.359 You know what I mean. It's like, you know. 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.680 You don't have to do that. But motherfuckers know now 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.000 that I didn't need none of that ship. I don't 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:54.920 need none of that ship. I don't need the mask. 0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:56.640 I don't need none of that ship to go toe 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:58.520 to toe lyrically with anybody in the industry. 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.840 You know, yo, talk to me. You had another insane, 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.160 like out of nowhere moment when you guys do this 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.920 record with the Rock. Okay, and now the Rock has 0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:10.480 always been a supporter of your music. 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:11.879 Since since Riot Maker. 0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.719 Yes, and he always is posting working out to tech 0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.400 stuff and shut the gate. Yeah, and and so it 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.839 was so cool. You had to have written that verse, though, 0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.239 Did you write the verse? No, the Rocks verse? No? No, no? 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.399 Does it sound like it sounded like you're paying. 0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:32.040 Okay, I'm gonna tell you how I went. I said, 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:36.520 I got some words that I think will be good. 0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:42.120 It's about drive, it's about power, it's about you know. 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.960 It was doing still like that. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:46.680 I want to go fast. He said, I want to 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.000 say it's about drive, it's about power. He was stay, hunger, 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.560 we devouring the work. I wouldn't I wouldn't have said 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:52.799 what he said. I put in the work, put in 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.040 the hours and take what's hours. That's all him. 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:55.399 Yeah. 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.520 Like in some moment in my veins, I was just thinking, 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.319 for sure, mother, that's him. 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.160 Oh wow. So he put together if. 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.880 You're that's me, just like, okay, you should put this 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.360 right here. That's what the that's what the mass. I 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:12.080 just helped him put the cadences together. You already had 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.920 the words he did that ship man, that nigga know 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:14.600 what he's doing. 0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:16.799 And that was you guys were in the studio together 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:18.160 for that. No no, no, no no no. 0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.120 He's too busy for that. I did. I mean, I 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:21.840 had him on his DM. I was like, hey, I 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:23.720 think I found it because I met him out here. 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:25.840 He wanted to meet me on his set of Ballers 0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:27.759 when he was out here with my people shining. You 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:29.440 know what I'm saying. They always trying to get me 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:31.480 to do movies, and I feel like I'm too weird 0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.600 to act. And I've done a couple of things weird. 0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:36.120 You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I might do that. 0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:37.960 You got to get that Rob Zombie shit cracking, man, 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:38.680 you got you know what I'm. 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.000 Saying, Like my horror brain and I let out out. 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.040 They ain't never seen no ship like that. Jordan Peel 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.759 all them up be like, what the fuck is wrong 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:50.080 with nigga? But anyway, I met uh the Rock. Then 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:53.480 I said, I'm gonna find something. Then uh face off came. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.600 I said, uh in his DM, I said, hey, I 0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:57.239 think I found it. 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:57.440 Man. 0:51:57.480 --> 0:51:59.759 He sent me his number, sent me his email all that. 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:01.879 You know what I'm saying. I was like, And then 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:03.719 we start talking on the phone, and we start talking 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.279 our way through it, and he said, this is what 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:09.120 I want to say, and I just helped him, you know, 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:11.520 put it in the right place. You know what I'm 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.160 saying on that last part, You know what I mean, 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.760 that's all him, dude, He killed it, killed it yeah. 0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.440 Man, Yeah, and then and then the video. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.919 I knew he could do it because Molana was out 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:30.360 right and yeah, look at it, make it everything happened. 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:32.919 Look at the but the top of but I'm like, oh, 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.680 oh yeah, he could do this. He did the Malana City, 0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.839 He's he's Maui Mali can do this. So I knew 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:40.279 he could do it. You know what I'm saying. When 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.040 I said that, if you want to bring it to 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:44.920 the massive, you know what I'm saying, then up there 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:48.040 the booth, ascids whatever the he said. I knew he 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:48.560 could do it. 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.399 Man, you know what I'm saying, Yo, Can you talk 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.920 to me because obviously, uh one of the most uh 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.240 you know when we talk about West Coast goats, especially 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.919 people who are underrated. As a guy, Mac Dre, who 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.719 his life in Casey. Yes, you've obviously shouted him out 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.960 a lot over the years and your music. What was 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:09.040 your relationship like with mac Dre? Was it? Did you 0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:10.800 guys have a relationship when he was alive? I know 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.359 he was in k C a lot. 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.680 This is what my homie say. I was on big drugs. 0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:20.560 We was running a fucking strip club called Satin Dolls 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:25.080 downtown van Brunt. You know what I'm saying. Uh, they 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.200 said Mac Drake came in there and I was high, 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.480 and I gave him his first thistles. I don't fucking know. 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.600 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna claim that this man. 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:39.239 Somebody says that my nigga said, nigga, you gave it 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.520 to him, because I remember him coming in the club 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:43.799 and I was like, he's like, man, yuh told me 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:45.719 y'all was family. I'm like, he is, and that means 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:47.360 you family too. Because he told him to me, I'm like, 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:49.319 I remember, yeah, like this, you know what I'm saying. 0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:54.080 But I don't remember giving him no goddamn th I 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.520 just knew I had sixty on me all the time. 0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:58.520 You know what I'm saying. I had, I had, I 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:01.480 had a hook up. It was the flower girl in there. 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.440 You know what I'm saying. That she would front me 0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:04.680 the shit and not pay her later. You know what 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:07.719 I'm saying. Sometimes I had three of them and I'd 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.720 share them with the girls. I was like the house dad, nigga, 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.000 I go in there and get everybody high. You know 0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:12.560 what I'm saying. I was. That was back then when 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:13.800 I was putting it on my tongue, Like take it 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.000 off my tongue, baby. You know that kind of crazy times. 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:17.840 You know what I'm saying, Crazy times for me. So 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:23.200 they said my homies like Nigga, he came in the 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:27.120 club that night and you gave him like Nigga, this 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:29.200 is what we do. And he's like for real. I 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:32.400 was like, I don't remember that sit at all. I 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.399 don't remember that sit at all, but I remember meeting 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.920 them in the club that sat and dolls, and you know, 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:41.239 he came in shining, you know, and the thing that 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:44.480 happened to him in case the negative thing. I was 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:50.200 on tour and I was doing a Halloween show in 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.600 Salt Lake City that day when I found out, Wow, 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:54.880 I called young Mouth immediately. I said, man, did he 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.800 have kids? He said, yeah, you fucking had kids. 0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:56.960 Man. 0:54:57.000 --> 0:55:01.560 I'm like, ah, you know, And they said it was 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:04.440 some street shit that happened over twenty thousand or something, right, 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.520 he was getting for a show and they left. 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:07.200 I don't know. 0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:08.319 I wasn't there, man. 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:09.000 That's crazy. 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:13.440 And uh, I hate it for Kansas City because they 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.560 love macdre. You would think he was from there. Man, 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:21.000 When any of his goe stupid comes on or anything. 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.200 You know what I'm saying. It's not my job. They 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:27.440 play everything right. You know, everybody moves like Dre in 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.319 the city. You know what I'm saying. If you and 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:35.120 E forty because forty with mister Flamboyant opened up the 0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:38.319 floodgates for the bay to come in to Kansas City, 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.000 you know what I'm saying. To the Midwest, you know 0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:45.000 what I'm saying. But macdre Man, you know that that's 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:45.879 his town as well. 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:51.000 For sure. You I remember I don't know shit, ten 0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:55.520 plus years ago us having like talks about like you'd 0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.600 worked with everybody. Obviously the one like person that was 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:03.000 still escaping the the tech feature was always eminem Speed 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:06.120 him comes out right, which was crazy because you brought 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:10.600 him to like literally brought him to your world. You've 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.040 worked with Surge, which I know was another one of 0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:17.600 those ones. Right, is there anybody left that is there 0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:21.279 anything new that you thought like, all right, well, I've 0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:24.080 conquered all these dragons, I've had am all my shit. 0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:27.600 I've worked with Lingree three thousand, you had Surged, Hanky 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:28.480 and opening up an album. 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:31.560 I mean it started the elite. That's started way back 0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:35.040 in the day, you know, saying with me and Ice Que. Yeah, 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.560 I was on kimas Spice one and forty over and 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.879 over and over. The elite shit that just started back 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:42.279 in the day, you know, I'm saying. And then the 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:44.279 new generation came, you know. 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:45.839 So there's got to be some newer guy because you're 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:48.279 a fan of this ship. So I know people don't know, 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:50.600 like you'll like catch a flight to catch a concert 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.080 just to go. Like people like, yo, I'm in Arizona 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:55.560 right now. I'm here because I want to watch this concert. 0:56:56.239 --> 0:57:01.000 I saw Travis Scott down there. I saw Chris Brown 0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:04.000 down there, I saw her, I saw Daniel Caesar down 0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:07.000 and my wife will come down to Arizona to go 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:07.879 to them goddamn show. 0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.840 But what what is the what's thes what's the latest? 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.120 The latest artist? You're like, man, that this would just 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:14.520 be special, Like I really would love it. 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.400 I tried to get j Cole on my last record 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:19.520 on a song called I Met Morph. I was trying 0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:24.200 to get him on that one, and we couldn't find 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.800 a way to get a response, you know what I'm saying. 0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:27.880 So that was one I wanted to cause, you know, 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.360 he'd be, he'd be on motherfucker ship killing ship. I'm like, 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:33.520 for sure he's come over, come over here and kill ship. 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.280 Let's go, you know what I'm saying. And when did it? 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:38.000 When did he get you know what I'm saying. I 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:44.440 always wanted to do that. I always wanted some and 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:48.280 this is some old ship. But when I say old ship, 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:50.280 I mean this is something I've always wanted, you know, 0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:54.880 Trent Reznor to do a track, you know what I'm saying. 0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:55.800 Of course I'm saying. 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.800 I just I just did that one with Ronnie Radkey 0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.640 falling of Reverse to Ronald song Man, and that turned 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.120 into a tour with us, you know what I mean, 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.320 And that that was a big one for me because 0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:09.240 you know, they killing ship, you know Ronnie. I was 0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:13.640 looking for Ronnie. The way I found Ronnie is when 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:18.080 I was doing Bliss, I was looking for metal Choppers. 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.840 I googled metal Choppers and he was at the top 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.960 of the list. Then Kim Dracula right then it was 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:29.160 like Suicide Boys after that and saying and uh then 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.320 it was City Morgan Auto. But Ronnie was on the 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.120 top of the list, so I hit him in his DM. 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:36.240 I'm a damn type of motherfucker. You know I'm saying, 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:39.920 that's how I got Duran Bnar own my ship everything. Yeah, man, 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:43.320 why not saying? But uh I hit him and he's like, man, 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.400 I've been wanting to work with you for the longest. 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:45.800 Man. 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:48.120 I sent him the song what I was gonna get 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:50.640 him and Kim Dracula on it. Because Kim Dracula's from Australia. 0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:51.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.560 He's fucking crazy chopper. You know what I'm saying metal 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:57.560 And uh, Ronnie said, I loved the song. Man, I 0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:59.480 just can't do it because I'm working on this huge album, 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:00.400 but I want you to be on one. 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:01.240 Okay. 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.640 Kim Dracula still did it, you know what I mean? 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:08.240 And I was happy about that one. J Cole is one. 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:14.560 Trent Reznor is one. Brittany from Alabama shakes. I love 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:17.080 what she can do, you know what I'm saying vocally? 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.000 You know, I just love musicians, man. You know I 0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:22.760 got a song with Gary Clark Jr. You know, like 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.360 I'm so, I'm so, I'm such a decorated m See. Man, 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.120 that's what my next album is gonna be called. Its 0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:32.320 gonna be called decorated and I've done it, and I 0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.240 got a weed song with Boys the Men, Dude, you 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:36.200 know what I'm saying, called Buddha. You know a lot 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.200 of people don't know. It's just went over people's heads 0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:41.400 on the Storm, you know. And you know, I think 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.280 I think Gary Clark Jr. Is on that album as well. 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:49.040 Marsha Ambroses Is on that album from a Flower Trees all. 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.439 It's all over the spectrum, man. You know what I'm saying, 0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:56.640 like rock, new metal, metal, you know what I'm saying, 0:59:56.800 --> 1:00:03.240 slip knot. It's I'm so decorated that I only have 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.160 a few people that I have left. You know what I'm saying. 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:06.360 Jay Z's one of them as well. 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:09.160 It would be crazy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.040 I already got Kendrick, already got Jay Rock. You know 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:16.280 what I'm saying. I still haven't done that feature for 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:17.680 j I D. He sent me. 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:19.760 Man, It's like J I D. Would be crazy. 1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:22.880 How many sent it to me, like around my birthday, 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:27.040 like November seventh, And then I went on a run 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.400 right after that and I got sick three times from 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:32.480 Thanksgiving all the way to the New Year. So I 1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:33.920 haven't been able to do it because I didn't want 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:34.640 to get about. 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:36.600 To turn his album man if it's not already turned in. 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:39.240 Oh man, he's crazy. 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:41.080 Because I'm just now letting up, you know what I'm saying. 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:44.560 And I gotta I gotta hit him and say, am 1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:48.600 I late? That was like almost five months ago? Yeah, 1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:49.320 I know I'm saying. 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.160 I know he did like a little private listening for 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:54.760 whatever this new project is, but maybe not. I mean 1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:58.840 there's no dat announced. As you know, there's always there's 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:00.560 always time to get ship over finish line. 1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:02.720 Yeah. I got sick three times, man, and I couldn't 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:04.120 get in the studio with him like that. 1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:07.960 Yeah, because he wanted the race, right, He's one of them. 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.400 He wanted to race, like oh you want to raise 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.880 Look here we go, you know, the day before my 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:15.440 birthday and my birthday November eighties and the November seventh, 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:17.600 and still haven't done it. Man. I'm like, damn, I 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:19.400 gotta I gotta get that done for j I. 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:25.200 D talk to me about like your guys' model. I 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:27.800 just saw Travis just did an interview with King Court 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:30.520 with the Whole Court podcast where he was kind of 1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:32.640 breaking down just kind of how things have changed since streaming, 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:36.600 the streaming era, and how you know, obviously the lack 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:41.600 of physical product in the marketplace. It's kind of you know, 1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:43.600 like you said, strangers always gonna find a way. You 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:46.760 guys have always found a way to survive and evolve. 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:53.960 But just the og like, when did you realize as 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:57.480 a whether it was you or Travis or together, like, yo, 1:01:57.600 --> 1:02:00.959 we gotta have like multiple Skew was on tour because 1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:03.800 I remember, man, when you used to I mean, I 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:05.920 remember the first time I went to one of your shows, bro, 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:11.360 a solo show. I was absolutely floored by the merch section. 1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:12.960 Oh yeah, that's all travels right there. 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:15.760 And I mean we're talking about Jersey's license plates. 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:17.360 That's back then. That's back then when I had to 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:18.760 okay everything. 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:20.120 Now, I was like, I'm like, and then the other 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:22.760 thing too. You would have the dude who would walk 1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:23.760 around with the box of CDs. 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:26.520 Yes, sir, we have we have three CD sellers. 1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:29.360 In the hitting the line. Yeah, hey, you guys want 1:02:29.360 --> 1:02:34.560 to buy the see and and COVID for sure. And 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:38.840 I think back to like, you know, obviously, I would 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:41.960 say probably before in terms of taking advantage of the 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:44.000 merch thing, I would say ICP was before you, guys. 1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:47.680 But in terms of perfecting that model of like cultivating 1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:52.600 your fan base into like a real core core that 1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:56.840 like physically can support you with what you might even 1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:58.160 have to have the album out, like hey guys, we're 1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:00.480 gonna do merch drop. I remember the jerseys great that 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:02.720 the red case jersey with the nine and good. 1:03:02.960 --> 1:03:07.400 But I think, I think, I think surviving for twenty 1:03:07.400 --> 1:03:12.600 five years is a blessing to have the core that 1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:15.360 we can still sell physical product to, you know what 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:20.439 I'm saying, and and everything and merchandise. Our story is crazy, man, 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:23.560 year after year, you know what I'm saying. So that's 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:26.880 just that's just a blessing. We were able to keep 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:32.800 all that, all those people with me evolving over the years, 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:36.120 and people having something to draw from, Like your best 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:40.520 album was Angelic, your best album was ever Ready. You 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:42.680 know what I'm saying. Special Effects was the last good album. 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:44.000 You know what I'm saying. People say, I love that, 1:03:44.520 --> 1:03:47.040 bro crazy, you know what I'm saying. 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:50.080 So so you know they have something to draw from 1:03:50.200 --> 1:03:51.960 because we've been in it for twenty five years with 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:54.800 strange music, you know what I mean. So if they 1:03:54.800 --> 1:03:57.360 didn't have so much to draw from, they would probably 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:01.120 like really respect all the new I'm dropping, you know 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:03.720 what I'm saying. But people have their favorites because they'll 1:04:03.760 --> 1:04:05.440 attach nostalgia to it. 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:06.680 Yes, the time of their life. 1:04:06.800 --> 1:04:09.560 Yes, when this thing happened and Tech nine was there, 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:13.600 kod O nine, that's when whoa he really hit that there? 1:04:13.640 --> 1:04:15.720 You know after that, he ain't had nothing good since. 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:18.320 I'm like, bullshit, right, you know what I mean. But 1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:22.400 the fact that we've been able to keep all those 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:28.000 people people's attention for these twenty five years, and we 1:04:28.000 --> 1:04:31.360 can call it the core, is a testament to great 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:35.440 and good product. You know what I'm saying. 1:04:36.080 --> 1:04:39.120 Yeah, because you don't get on the Forbes list without 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:42.760 a lot of stuff that isn't just the music, right exactly. 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:44.400 You know what I'm saying is everything that comes with 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:47.200 the experience. It's the tour merchandise, you know what I'm saying, 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:53.160 the video game placements, the TV placements and everything. You know, 1:04:53.360 --> 1:04:57.320 it counts, and uh, I'm just you know, that's why 1:04:57.640 --> 1:05:01.400 lately I've been talking to Trav about directed consumer. 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:06.120 Which I think is honestly the next It's kind of 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:08.760 like things have to be be full circle event. We're 1:05:08.760 --> 1:05:10.880 talking to him about it since as nine because think 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:14.280 about it, there's a I don't know if you've heard 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:17.640 of a something called even Yes. Yeah, So there's a 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:19.480 lot of artists who are doing that, right, Like Dizzey 1:05:19.480 --> 1:05:21.600 Wright did an album on there. It was like at 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:24.080 the end of the day, like if you actually were 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:27.080 to calculate even if you release an album for the 1:05:27.120 --> 1:05:30.160 first three months directed consumer. 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:32.160 That's what I'm talking about, you know, That's what I'm 1:05:32.160 --> 1:05:34.600 talking about, Like, hey, let's let's get some money first. 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:36.920 Because you got to look at I mean, thirty nine 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:39.680 I think thirty nine hundred dollars is about a million streams. 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:41.360 So if you do a million streams, it's like between 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:43.840 like thirty seven and like four thousand dollars essentially. So 1:05:43.880 --> 1:05:47.120 when you start breaking down like some of the numbers, 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:50.320 you're like, damn, Like we put so much into this shit, 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:55.240 right and the streaming shit is really fucked I mean 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:56.560 like it's it's really fucked up. 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:58.000 Like you got to get money off of you know, 1:05:58.040 --> 1:05:58.720 the music is. 1:05:58.800 --> 1:06:01.400 We have no it's a it's a vessel to get 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:03.280 to get other things, the other's things. Fuck that. 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:05.920 Yeah, fuck that man, you know what I'm saying, Especially 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:08.680 for fifty eight sixteen Forest a personal album like that. 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:10.160 I don't want to get that sit away for free, 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:10.640 my nigga. 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:14.200 Also, like your fans would rather buy a piece of 1:06:14.280 --> 1:06:15.320 vinyl from you? 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.440 Yeah, that's coming to like hey sixteen, Hey, look, the 1:06:18.480 --> 1:06:19.880 first people who are going to hear this album are 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:22.200 gonna get it on CD and vinyl. Yeah, that's exactly 1:06:22.240 --> 1:06:24.560 what's happening. That's crazy that your mind's thinking that because 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:26.160 Travis was on that already. 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:27.480 Like you guys are going to get this piece of art. 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:29.520 Wait till the pre order drop, you gonna see. 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:31.640 It, and then eventually you'll be able to put it 1:06:31.720 --> 1:06:33.320 up on you know, and you can watch the music 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:34.200 videos on YouTube. 1:06:34.240 --> 1:06:37.120 Yeah, it's easier said than done when you were you know, 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:43.200 connected to you know, a distribution and uses connected to 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:44.600 you know, it's Virgin. 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:46.560 Now right right, and then they're like, well, it's a 1:06:46.600 --> 1:06:48.360 little bit harder to be like, well, we're gonna just 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:52.240 crack this, crack our fans real quick and make sure 1:06:52.280 --> 1:06:54.960 they get first access. Well, you know, the business the 1:06:55.040 --> 1:06:57.320 business model of Virgin is like no, no, no, not. 1:06:57.720 --> 1:07:02.120 Their percentages are included in that right, So it's like, sorry, 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:07.000 I just snored it. Their percentages are included and directed consumer. 1:07:07.160 --> 1:07:09.240 You know what I'm saying. It's like it seems like 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:12.520 that everybody else would want to make more money, you 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:13.080 know what I'm saying. 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:14.920 It would seem too as if there's an artist that 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:20.840 is capable of fucking up the. 1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:22.880 The game, fucking the industry again, it'd be you. Yeah, 1:07:23.120 --> 1:07:25.200 you remember that. You remember that thing we had in 1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:29.520 two uh FTI. It was like fun the industry. 1:07:29.640 --> 1:07:29.800 You know. 1:07:29.840 --> 1:07:32.680 We did the commercial like download my album Absolute Power 1:07:32.720 --> 1:07:34.320 for free and if you like it, you know what 1:07:34.320 --> 1:07:36.560 I'm saying, support, We got that shit away for free, 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:39.640 my nig and it worked. So here we are again. 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:45.720 Streaming is killing the industry. We're still afloat, by the 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:50.960 grace of God. Now's the time. I think it's time 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:54.720 to fuck the industry again. Man said and done. Though, 1:07:54.760 --> 1:07:56.680 I know we got a lot of susts that are connected. 1:07:56.720 --> 1:08:01.080 And have you been paying attention to the Russell? 1:08:01.800 --> 1:08:04.520 Of course he's on my last album. The Russell is 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:07.960 like Russell and Stunnermento two. Shout to Russell, man, you 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:08.760 know they moving. 1:08:09.600 --> 1:08:12.000 He's also got he's got this out. He thinks outside 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:14.080 the box of everything and it's working for him. Yes, 1:08:14.120 --> 1:08:15.400 it's like, hey, if you want to come see me, 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:17.880 my show starts at two p m. Because I don't 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:21.320 like being outside of night and you get to put 1:08:21.320 --> 1:08:22.280 a bit in on your ticket. 1:08:22.320 --> 1:08:24.880 He's on He's on COSM. We got a song called 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:29.960 sour though. Okay, you know, but it's why while you 1:08:29.960 --> 1:08:33.800 sal while you so. I think he's the sneaker is. 1:08:33.800 --> 1:08:37.360 On the hook. He's done a good job of showing 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:40.479 artists like, hey, like, you don't have to play by 1:08:40.520 --> 1:08:42.200 the rules you think you have to play by. 1:08:43.160 --> 1:08:48.600 L Russell and Russ you know the same guy? Uh 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:51.200 who did it? Who did it? Glorilla did it? You know, 1:08:51.400 --> 1:08:54.320 directing Consumer Lately. I think gn X was like that 1:08:54.360 --> 1:08:54.960 with Kendrick. 1:08:55.479 --> 1:08:59.720 Yeah, they man that just from a hip hop fan perspective, 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:03.519 you had to have loved the last year of hip hop. 1:09:03.560 --> 1:09:06.040 I mean because the Kendrick Drake beef brought out. I mean, 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:07.880 however you feel about the results, I mean, we know 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:11.240 who won, but uh, just it was just good to 1:09:11.240 --> 1:09:15.519 see like people dissecting bars, like. 1:09:15.720 --> 1:09:17.760 Really good on that and in that aspect, you know 1:09:17.760 --> 1:09:20.759 what I'm saying the hip hop energy that was brought 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:23.680 forth by that beef. What I worry about is the 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:27.040 street element of it all. And that's why I put 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:29.840 out no popcorn. I don't have no popcorn emojis because 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:33.040 I know we're all gang members, right, you know what 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:36.599 I'm saying. And Uh, you can't control the. 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:40.400 Entourage, you can't control the Philly, the family. 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:45.000 The fanaticis yeah, you know what I'm saying. And when 1:09:45.280 --> 1:09:47.760 Drake's house got shot at, you know what I'm here 1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:50.519 comes That's what I didn't want. You know what I'm saying. 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:52.519 I don't I want to. I wanted to. I want 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:55.320 to keep it in the spirit of hip hop. Would 1:09:55.320 --> 1:10:00.800 have done what it did, uh for it positively. But 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:04.559 we have to keep our eye on the street element 1:10:04.640 --> 1:10:06.760 because it comes with us. You know what I'm saying. 1:10:06.800 --> 1:10:09.360 So so far, so good, so far, so good. 1:10:09.439 --> 1:10:09.839 Yeah. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.400 I was talking to day Free the other day with 1:10:12.479 --> 1:10:15.000 a og muggs. He had him on three Way, and 1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:17.400 I said, I think y'all gonna be really good in Toronto, man, 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:18.760 you know what I'm saying. He's like, oh yeah, man, 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.599 they come out in Toronto, man, is wonderful. I think 1:10:21.640 --> 1:10:23.839 I think y'all gonna be good, and I would expect 1:10:23.960 --> 1:10:24.400 Drake to. 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:27.120 Be okay in two stadium shows. Yeah, I know, two 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:28.360 stadium shows in Toronto. 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:29.519 Yes, I know, I know. 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:31.240 Yeah. Yeah. 1:10:31.280 --> 1:10:32.760 I think they think they're gonna be good. You know 1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:33.280 what I'm saying. 1:10:33.320 --> 1:10:36.000 And I think Drake is in LA enough to be like. 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:39.360 He shouldn't be good here? Yeah, man, he better be man, 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:41.080 you know what I'm saying. But you know, with the 1:10:41.080 --> 1:10:43.719 street element, man, you just never they take it beyond. 1:10:43.800 --> 1:10:47.160 We've always took it beyond. Because this is my theory 1:10:47.200 --> 1:10:51.320 on it. If you say something negative about technolo on 1:10:51.320 --> 1:10:54.080 the record, that means you're now in the spirit of 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:57.320 hip hop. I get it. But that means you're trying 1:10:57.360 --> 1:10:59.759 to take food out of my family's mouth, my nigga. 1:10:59.840 --> 1:11:02.080 So we're gonna have a problem. You know what I'm saying. Now, 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:09.160 I've been in battles and I haven't lost. I've never lost, 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:12.080 you know what I'm saying. So, and that it has 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:15.479 never gotten so personal that you couldn't shooting at each 1:11:15.520 --> 1:11:18.160 other or fighting in the club waiting about to have 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:21.320 that shit in casey, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:26.920 But with that street element. You're trying to take food 1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:29.439 and money away from me by turning people away from me. Nigga, 1:11:29.479 --> 1:11:31.960 I got something for you. That's what I don't want. 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:34.479 Yeah, and then there's like you said that you can't 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:38.240 control somebody who's young, who's affiliated, who wants to prove 1:11:38.320 --> 1:11:40.599 himself right right right, that you aren't even you might 1:11:40.640 --> 1:11:41.920 not even we didn't even send it. 1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:42.680 We didn't even send it. 1:11:42.720 --> 1:11:44.160 We didn't even know this was gonna happen. And then 1:11:44.200 --> 1:11:46.200 there's also insane fans like people. 1:11:46.040 --> 1:11:48.960 Might say Tech nine's name, I would never send it. 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:52.120 They send it to themselves because I have followers. 1:11:52.320 --> 1:11:55.960 Yeah, you you're you're you're inviting certain energy to your yea, 1:11:56.640 --> 1:11:57.519 to your So. 1:11:57.520 --> 1:12:00.360 The thing when it happened with ICP, that's me and 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:01.920 Joe Bruce talked about. 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:04.840 I'm like, man, yeah, he talked about it. 1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:06.960 We don't want to we don't want to turn this 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:09.840 into something. We just had a we we had a 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:12.599 really good two hour talk when the ship was happening, 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:14.880 when I was getting death threats from a few juggalos, 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:17.960 we had like a two hour talk and it was 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:21.840 like a history lesson from Tech nine from Kansas City 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.559 what started the killer clown and all this kind of 1:12:24.560 --> 1:12:26.960 thing because they was under the impressing that I got 1:12:27.080 --> 1:12:29.360 it from them, and I'm like, I was the clown 1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:31.439 in ninety four, you know what I'm saying, And I 1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:34.360 have to tell them all that, and uh, but they 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:36.840 did show us a lot of shit on that tour No. 1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:39.519 Three that we had to up our game and merch 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:42.200 and everything, and their stage show was fucking I just 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:45.080 saw them performing the other day and it's still crazy 1:12:45.200 --> 1:12:45.559 for sure. 1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:48.000 Yeah, you have this energy about thinking about them shooting 1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:49.639 two leaders of FA go into the crowd. 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:51.840 Oh they're still doing that. They're still doing that. They're 1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:54.840 still doing that. And it's like me and Joe Bruce 1:12:54.880 --> 1:12:58.479 talked about that, about the history and what I learned, 1:12:58.520 --> 1:13:02.599 and you know, we got to clear about the gang element. 1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:06.320 I don't want it to bleed into this, you know 1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:09.000 what I'm saying, because whether they know it or not, 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:12.000 you know what I'm saying, The Clowns, the Juggalos are 1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:14.679 not a gang, but people look at them as a gang, 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:17.400 you know what I'm saying. It's all over the world too. Sure, 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:22.280 it's in Australia, it's in the UK, Juggalos are everywhere 1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:25.120 and they come show love my nigga and like they 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:25.560 always have. 1:13:25.720 --> 1:13:27.040 Yeah, if you go to a tech show, you're gonna 1:13:27.000 --> 1:13:30.320 se Juggles of course, of course, and a lot of 1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:33.160 people have strange and hatchet Man tattooed yes sir, yes, sir. 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:38.320 So we talked about the gang element that I didn't 1:13:38.360 --> 1:13:41.360 want to bleed over into that. And they came to 1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:43.719 my show in Detroit and they introduced me and everything 1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:46.920 and it was good, you know what I mean. After 1:13:48.080 --> 1:13:53.880 after they did your show, I did a song what 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:56.640 was it called? I forgot what it was called. And I 1:13:56.720 --> 1:14:00.439 was talking telling people that I'm not upset and what 1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:02.040 they were saying on the show. You know what I'm saying. 1:14:02.040 --> 1:14:04.840 I'm like, they didn't say nothing wrong, but you know 1:14:04.840 --> 1:14:08.200 what I mean, It's like the face paint thing was unclear, 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:11.160 you know what I mean. And they didn't know that. 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:14.800 When I was on that tour, I only had my 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:19.200 guy doing words across my head, you know what I'm saying. 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:22.960 But before that, I had Brian Bezel Dennis in ninety 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:25.880 four doing my full skull face, right, you know what 1:14:25.920 --> 1:14:28.080 I'm saying. I didn't know nothing about dark loadus and 1:14:28.080 --> 1:14:29.400 none of that shit I'm talking about when I did 1:14:29.640 --> 1:14:33.720 when I did the show and Lawrence Kansas with the 1:14:34.720 --> 1:14:37.400 luminous paint on my face and the black cross across 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:39.400 my face. You know what I'm saying, lights cut off 1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:41.400 you could see just across on my face. I didn't 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:43.639 know nothing about dark Lotus back then. That's what they did. 1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:47.120 And it's like those were in That was in the 1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:49.439 early nineties, you know what I mean, and shit like that. 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:52.120 So we had to talk about all that, you know 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:55.280 what I mean, because we had similarities when it come 1:14:55.360 --> 1:14:56.800 to face paint and all that kind of shit. And 1:14:56.800 --> 1:14:58.599 I was trying to say that I've never been a bier. 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:02.920 I've always been an innovator. I've always you know, saw 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:07.599 things that y'all did and purposely didn't want to try 1:15:07.600 --> 1:15:10.760 to mimic it, right because that's their thing. I would 1:15:10.840 --> 1:15:12.960 never get up there and have clowns come out and 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:15.160 throw feyo or nothing, you know what I'm saying. Even 1:15:15.200 --> 1:15:17.360 though I'm the killer clown, I do mine in a 1:15:17.360 --> 1:15:21.960 different way, you know what I mean. So I talked 1:15:21.960 --> 1:15:24.360 about that gang element and we got that shit straight early. 1:15:24.439 --> 1:15:24.599 Man. 1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:26.439 You know what I'm saying, and then it didn't it 1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:27.160 didn't keep going. 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:29.559 That's good. Yeah, I feel like like trying to split 1:15:29.600 --> 1:15:31.519 up your guys's fans, is that insane because there are 1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:32.599 a lot of the same people. 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:35.400 Yeah, man, you know, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. 1:15:35.520 --> 1:15:37.840 It's gotta be wild too, because you've like we're talking 1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:39.800 about twenty five years of strange music at this point 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:43.080 in time. Like there's people probably with Tech nine tattoos 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:49.800 that are like fucking teachers, Dennis. Yeah, Like there's like 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:52.000 technicians that are like probably in high places that you 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:53.920 would even do unless they took their shirt off. 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:57.559 Man, they approached me and people that I don't think 1:15:57.560 --> 1:15:59.200 that's gonna come up with me and say anything about 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:02.439 techno tuned in for twenty years, I'm like, holy shit, right, 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:05.360 Tech nine always felt like fight club, you know what 1:16:05.400 --> 1:16:07.479 I mean. Like you go into the restaurant and all 1:16:07.520 --> 1:16:09.800 the people with all the cooks, all the servers, they 1:16:10.120 --> 1:16:11.720 gnawed at you, you know what I'm saying. But all 1:16:11.760 --> 1:16:13.640 the rich people, you know, they don't know what the 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:16.160 is going on until at the end when I'm taking 1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:18.320 pictures with everybody, like who are you again? You know, 1:16:18.920 --> 1:16:19.800 it's fight club thing. 1:16:19.840 --> 1:16:24.080 You know what I'm saying, yo talk about obviously, you know, 1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:27.000 for people who don't know, Save Me was a record 1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:29.080 that came out under Strange Music's distro. Shout to our 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:31.320 brother Jelly Roll, who is one of the biggest stars 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:35.360 on the planet these days. You know, he's had a 1:16:35.479 --> 1:16:39.360 crazy journey through musical You know, I think back to 1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:43.360 damn like him opening up FORCP on tour. I mean, 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:48.719 he really was an actual underground rap like rappers, like really, 1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:52.000 you know, it's the human talking about subculture like he 1:16:52.040 --> 1:16:54.800 came from that kind of like yes, that subculture of 1:16:54.840 --> 1:16:57.160 like Ritz and Wolf and Haystack, and he was he 1:16:57.200 --> 1:17:01.080 was really in the streets and for sure, but what 1:17:01.080 --> 1:17:04.120 what what what I mean? Obviously you guys also have 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:06.920 a platinum record together at this point, we do a creature. 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:10.880 Creature is platinum? Yeah? How cool has it been? Just 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:14.639 as somebody who knows Jelly and and and it's obviously 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:15.639 broken bread with him. 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:18.040 But just it couldn't happen to a better person. It 1:17:18.080 --> 1:17:20.639 couldn't happened to a better person. And he's so thankful 1:17:20.920 --> 1:17:22.760 it couldn't happen to a better person. He's always been 1:17:22.840 --> 1:17:25.160 stand up cat you know what I mean, him and 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:27.400 Travis going back and forth because he didn't want to 1:17:27.400 --> 1:17:29.920 release save Me, you know, to his fans, because he 1:17:29.920 --> 1:17:32.000 thought that they would be making fun of him because 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:36.200 he's singing. I'm like, dude, your singing voice like we 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:38.880 did Easier for you, ef you man, I'm like, when 1:17:38.880 --> 1:17:41.920 he sang on that easy up for you, I'm like, dude, 1:17:42.000 --> 1:17:45.240 your singing voice is crazy, though, you know what I'm saying. 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:46.160 And then save Me. 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:51.880 Took over. It's just one of those beautiful songs ever. 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:54.439 Yeah, and Eminem just reused it, you know what I'm saying. 1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:56.840 In fact, Eminem sampled the song that was like five 1:17:56.880 --> 1:17:57.360 years old. 1:17:58.400 --> 1:18:01.519 Yeah, so crazy man, But it couldn't happen to a 1:18:01.600 --> 1:18:02.479 better human being. 1:18:02.360 --> 1:18:05.400 Man, Yeah, it's dope to just see. Like I'm like, 1:18:05.400 --> 1:18:06.720 that's why I try to tell people. I'm like, if 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:09.000 you knew Jelly, because I would always tell Jelly the 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:10.559 same shit. I'd be like, brother, Like as soon as 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:14.040 people just like get to anybody who knows Jelly, when 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:17.000 back then, it would just take people to meet him 1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:19.439 and they'd be like, y'all love this guy. I might 1:18:19.520 --> 1:18:21.519 not know him, but I just love this fucking guy, 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:23.280 and it was almost like the world went through that 1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:24.360 experience himself. 1:18:24.520 --> 1:18:26.559 He don't have to put on a mask or anything. 1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:28.040 You know what I'm saying. I don't mean like a 1:18:28.080 --> 1:18:30.560 mask to put on them somebody, like a fake persona. 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.880 You know what I'm saying, because my mask was really 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:35.400 going on inside. You know what I'm saying. But he 1:18:35.439 --> 1:18:38.800 doesn't have to put on a fake persona to be 1:18:39.000 --> 1:18:42.160 jelly roll. He's jelly roll everywhere, you know what I mean. 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:47.640 And people love that authenticity, authenticity, and it's gonna be 1:18:47.760 --> 1:18:52.040 him and until he's ready to say bucket. 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:55.400 Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, you mentioned earlier. Certain fans will 1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:57.120 like point some of your older albums. If you in 1:18:57.160 --> 1:18:59.760 your estimation, let's take the new album coming out out 1:18:59.800 --> 1:19:02.360 of the equation, what would you what would you say 1:19:02.439 --> 1:19:05.600 is your best album? I'm sure it changes for you 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:06.120 all the time. 1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:08.840 They are all my babies, man, tell them this all 1:19:08.880 --> 1:19:10.720 the time. They are all my babies, from Angelic to 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:13.680 Absolute Power to the vintage Tech too. You know what 1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:17.040 I'm saying. Ever ready to all sixes and sevens to 1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:22.040 I got so many, man, It's like I'm on album 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:23.519 like twenty five or twenty six right now. 1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:24.320 That's insane. 1:19:26.920 --> 1:19:29.000 I think ever Ready was the turning point. You know 1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:32.000 what I'm saying. Like, we was out here, Bias One 1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:34.840 was giving me beats and we were all, that's Richie 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:37.080 Abbit over there. You know what I'm saying is that 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:41.240 I'm looking at yeah out here. I took so many turns. 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:44.640 You know what. I realized that y'all gave me a 1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:48.240 Jay Dilla CD back then that I don't I remember 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:51.280 seeing that. I never really got into it. And then 1:19:51.400 --> 1:19:55.240 years later I realized that I dropped that ball I'm 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:57.360 talking about. We was doing ever Ready. They was giving 1:19:57.360 --> 1:19:58.439 me you. 1:19:59.240 --> 1:20:01.720 Had his Diller Beat CD full of them. 1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:04.400 That's crazy, And I'm like, you know, buys One, like 1:20:04.439 --> 1:20:07.400 you need to check out this dealer guy. I'm like, okay, whatever. 1:20:07.520 --> 1:20:09.559 Yeah, I mean Caribou's on ever Ready right. 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:12.839 Yes, sir, care Blue come Gangs come Gangster, right Baker. 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.160 You know what I'm saying. The rain, Yeah, that was 1:20:16.200 --> 1:20:20.200 the turning point when we got with When we got 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:24.080 with Fontana, that turned into Ingrows that we're with now. 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:27.120 You know what I'm saying, Uh, that was a turning point. 1:20:27.439 --> 1:20:30.000 Ever Ready, that's a big one. Rick Rock is on 1:20:30.080 --> 1:20:32.160 there you know what I'm saying with my wife, my bitch, 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:35.840 my girl and no can do you know? Rick Rock 1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:38.640 just came through and just dropped some barrier shit on us. 1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:41.519 You know what I'm saying, Like for real, for real, man, 1:20:41.720 --> 1:20:44.760 ever Ready was the turning point for Tech nine to 1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:46.759 get really really massive. 1:20:47.439 --> 1:20:49.920 Yeah. I feel like Everready has, especially if you like, 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:52.080 I mean, if you go to one of your shows, 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:55.160 it's like there's like there's certain songs I've noticed you 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:56.960 like move in and out of the set list, like 1:20:56.960 --> 1:20:58.519 like like, yeah, it was one of my favorite songs, 1:20:58.520 --> 1:20:59.880 but I haven't heard like you do, Like yeah for 1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:03.720 some I have years, but like that album has got 1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:06.560 like they ain't going nowhere in the set list, you 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:07.679 know what I mean? Yeah? 1:21:07.880 --> 1:21:10.599 Man, Yeah, Man, ever Ready, I would say every Ready 1:21:10.600 --> 1:21:13.080 as the turning point. It's not my I can't say 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:13.960 it's my best album. 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:15.160 What do you think is your best? Though? 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:17.639 I don't think I think they're all the best. My nigga, 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:20.080 Have you heard Frank Hellic Angelic come on? 1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:20.280 Man? 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:25.080 For sure Angelic Tormented from Tormented to the song with 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:27.160 Roger Trappman at the end. You know what I'm saying, Twisted, 1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:31.400 you know what I mean. It's like angelic is you 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:32.960 don't skip it. You know what I'm saying, you can't 1:21:32.960 --> 1:21:37.360 skip it. Absolute power industry is punks to whatever. This 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:39.120 is me or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Do 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:42.080 you remember, Uh No, that's not that's ever ready, this 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:42.280 is me. 1:21:42.320 --> 1:21:47.000 I'm sorry. Do you remember you're recording stamina in the 1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:47.719 in the studio. 1:21:47.960 --> 1:21:48.840 Let me tell you something. 1:21:48.840 --> 1:21:49.919 You want to hear this story. 1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:54.400 So I've always had stamina in my mind. You know 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:55.760 what I'm saying. I want to shoot, I want to 1:21:55.800 --> 1:21:58.040 wrap to a gun. You know what I'm saying. So 1:21:58.120 --> 1:22:01.320 me and don Wan's in his basement and he sets 1:22:01.600 --> 1:22:06.320 the m p C three thousand or yea to this swing. 1:22:06.439 --> 1:22:11.000 That's kind of like the way you make me feel like, uh, 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:17.479 Michael Jackson stamina. I'll be damn if I ever be 1:22:17.640 --> 1:22:19.800 took away by the demons. I'll never be what the 1:22:19.880 --> 1:22:21.680 weather win. That was the rhythm I come with the 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:24.439 heater cleverly Nigga went out and will never be so 1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.439 killer Flow Zilla Gorilla and Flow was a fella meee, 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:29.599 I'll be in the line Hella doing time for the 1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:32.559 Tech nine is so he said, you got to play 1:22:32.600 --> 1:22:34.519 it because you know what, I'm like, pop up up. 1:22:40.000 --> 1:22:42.160 I did it. So I told the one I got 1:22:42.160 --> 1:22:44.519 on the I got on the mic. I said, okay, 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:49.240 now speed it up. Stemina Stamina. I said, keep going, Stamena. 1:22:49.439 --> 1:22:52.720 And when he got into the first perfect pitch, I 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:54.840 was like, Stemina, I'll be done. Ever be took away 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:56.200 by the demons that never be what. The weather went, 1:22:56.560 --> 1:22:58.280 hythm come with the heat cover leaue nigga noo, the 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:00.720 one ever be so killer. If I was a fell 1:23:01.040 --> 1:23:03.400 I began to lie doing time for the now you 1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:05.599 know what I'm saying. He's like, what the fuck? Yeah? 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:08.040 I did that Ship of the Road Dogs. We had 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:10.280 this album. We had this song I'll call Let's get 1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:13.439 fucked Up. It's fucking the town up. So def Jammer 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:16.040 came to Kansas City at this place called it wasn't 1:23:16.080 --> 1:23:21.519 called uh this name at the time, this club. I 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:23.120 forgot what it is, you know, since down there on 1:23:23.160 --> 1:23:27.920 the East side where the Essays are, and they had 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:30.800 they had this thing that was like a not a 1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:35.040 talent show, but a industry party where people will be showcasing, 1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:38.760 saying a showcasing. And me and Roddargs went down there. 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:40.679 I remember, I just came out here from QD three 1:23:40.680 --> 1:23:43.200 and I did a photo shooting. I had that ship on. 1:23:43.240 --> 1:23:45.240 You know what I'm saying. I had my special boots on, 1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:47.400 my Kenneth Cold boots on, and all them niggas was 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:49.080 dressed in their bloodshit. You know what I'm saying. I 1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:51.120 came out there and I started out and I Chris 1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:54.800 Callico said, he was in the crowd. It was Boulevard Knights. 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:56.680 Now this's the club. That's what I just thought about it. 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:59.000 Boulevard Knights called that. Now it's called something that then. 1:23:59.040 --> 1:24:01.559 Back then something was back then. I did that ship, 1:24:01.640 --> 1:24:03.639 Chris Callico said. When I was in that crowd, man, 1:24:03.720 --> 1:24:07.800 when you first did Stamina and that whole place went up. 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.160 When I did it first live, when I said Tech 1:24:11.320 --> 1:24:13.880 nine and the whole place stood up, I just fell 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:14.519 out laughing. 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:18.280 Did you always do the head cock? Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:22.080 yeah yes, because you have certain songs, you have, you 1:24:22.120 --> 1:24:24.479 have your like. I wouldn't necessarily choreography, but you have 1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:26.599 your like, your moves, you record. 1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:29.759 Yeah, I had don Wan put the cock click clack, 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:32.559 stamming up. You know what I'm saying that Tech nine, 1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:34.080 you know, I knew exactly how I was gonna do it. 1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:36.599 I had it in my head and uh, next thing, 1:24:36.600 --> 1:24:39.400 you know, I did it at this place called Maniacs 1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:42.960 and Independence Man and it fucked everybody up. I think 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:45.519 Twister was there or something like that, and fuck everybody up. 1:24:45.560 --> 1:24:48.519 And I was doing I was doing that Einstein and 1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:51.720 let's get fucked up with the planet Rock with the 1:24:51.800 --> 1:24:55.920 rogue Dogs, you know what I'm saying. And Uh, I 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:59.880 just knew I had some special with stamina, so I 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:02.479 left it back there in the nineties. Now, recently, I 1:25:02.560 --> 1:25:04.880 did a song called RDV on my new album fifty 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:06.920 A sixteen fours. We just put out videos out the 1:25:07.000 --> 1:25:10.920 videos out, so I thought, at the end of the song, 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:15.600 when I'm talking about giving a salute to some of 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:21.040 the rogue Dog villains that were not with us anymore 1:25:21.080 --> 1:25:22.920 and the ones that are still here, I thought I'd 1:25:22.920 --> 1:25:24.960 give a salute to my soldiers. I thought it was 1:25:25.040 --> 1:25:30.800 worthy of medalling back that, I mean, dialing up that 1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:34.840 stamming a style and yelling out all the names. And 1:25:34.880 --> 1:25:38.680 it's effective. Still I still I did it again. This 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:42.240 time me and Bengineer did it and we didn't have 1:25:42.240 --> 1:25:44.679 to use the MPC three thousand. You know what I'm saying. 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:49.680 It's like, Ben, let me going there on a metronome 1:25:51.800 --> 1:25:54.680 and do that shit. Sippy Bigs are a picture star, 1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:56.800 demmit star, Williama? Send this League one John John, Michael 1:25:56.800 --> 1:25:59.320 werber TONI D, Tony Kennedy, Doctor Bob, Marty, Duken, Fly Mac. 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:00.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:00.320 M hm. 1:26:00.880 --> 1:26:04.240 I'm like, just on those names, put the put that 1:26:04.280 --> 1:26:06.120 AK forty seven sound, you know what I'm saying, or 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:07.760 the sk sound on top of it. You know what 1:26:07.760 --> 1:26:13.320 I'm saying. It's just as effective as it was in 1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:13.919 the nineties. 1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:17.480 Yeah, it's crazy because it's like one of those moments 1:26:17.720 --> 1:26:19.800 in your live show that like it doesn't take up 1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:22.360 a lot of space, but it's so like like again, 1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:23.640 if you don't know Tech nine and you go and 1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:25.040 see you see do you do that? You're like, did 1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:25.679 this motherfucker? 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:26.479 Just yeah? 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:27.960 Wrap over a machine gun. 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:30.479 For a long time, I was doing it at the beginning. 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:33.800 Now I've been doing it at the end a lot lately. 1:26:33.840 --> 1:26:36.360 You know, at the end of my show, you know, boom. 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:39.200 But when I did the show with when I did 1:26:39.240 --> 1:26:42.559 this tour with Falling in Reverse and Blackveilt Brides and 1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:47.920 all the other guys that are on the tour, Dance, 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:51.080 Gavin Dance. I felt like this was a new crowd, 1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:52.720 so I put it at the beginning. 1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:56.719 Right and let them just to just to be like, hey, yeah, 1:26:57.080 --> 1:26:57.759 you pay attention. 1:26:57.840 --> 1:26:59.840 I had. I took it all the way back to 1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:02.400 O two when I was on the ICP tour with 1:27:02.439 --> 1:27:05.760 the high top boxing shoes, you know what I'm saying, 1:27:05.840 --> 1:27:07.280 and all that kind of shit. I brought that back 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:12.519 with the scrubs and uh, I had stamina at the 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:15.320 beginning right into industry as punks like I used to do, 1:27:16.640 --> 1:27:18.639 and it fucked them up. And I had my band 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:20.479 with me playing that shit. Yo. 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:23.639 You you mentioned your album number twenty five, twenty six, 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:26.840 whatever it might be. There's been a trend going on 1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:29.920 in music recently where a lot of people's catalogs are 1:27:29.920 --> 1:27:34.760 getting bought. Oh yeah, have you and Trav ever considered 1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:37.120 listening to those convos? 1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:40.840 No, not now, because when it comes time to sell, 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:44.760 we want to have something in the selle. You know 1:27:44.800 --> 1:27:48.920 what I'm saying. When we if we ever sell strange music, right, 1:27:49.320 --> 1:27:53.439 you know what I'm saying, We've we've done a deal 1:27:54.520 --> 1:27:56.519 with the. 1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:58.720 Streaming side, right, you know what I'm saying. 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.280 But other than that, all the pub listening, everything, all hours, 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:05.280 you know what I'm saying. And uh, other than that, man, no, man, 1:28:05.320 --> 1:28:07.040 we just steady building. 1:28:07.760 --> 1:28:12.680 What was the catalyst that implemented? Because I always talk 1:28:12.720 --> 1:28:15.840 about this on the show with certain artists, I bring 1:28:15.920 --> 1:28:18.320 up your guys's the tour regimen is pretty wild, but 1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:23.679 specifically the rules. Yes, you guys will find people, Yes 1:28:23.760 --> 1:28:27.240 they break the rules. It's it's it's very like it's 1:28:27.240 --> 1:28:31.080 a professional setting. But it wasn't always that way. What 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:33.599 what happened was it was it? What was the thing 1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:36.559 that kind of was the turning point where you said, hey, 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:39.680 maybe it was a Travis thing, but hey, we're not 1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:41.479 fucking around here anymore. It's too much to lose. 1:28:41.520 --> 1:28:46.040 This is the rules with any rule system, the fuck 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:47.200 ups have to happen first. 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:47.880 Yeah. 1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:52.680 So if MGK is having food fights at you know, 1:28:52.840 --> 1:28:55.320 saying the buffet spot, Oh. 1:28:55.320 --> 1:28:58.400 Yeah, you guys had MGK during his wild really literally 1:28:58.560 --> 1:28:59.120 like let me. 1:28:59.120 --> 1:29:02.519 Just fuck up a hotel room. Yeah, it's real. It 1:29:02.560 --> 1:29:05.680 was real for sure. I'm talking about Golden Corral. They 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:08.759 kicked us out, we were banned from all golden corrals 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:09.479 around the Midwest. 1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:12.880 Crazy because so was an MGK that started the rule book. 1:29:14.040 --> 1:29:14.879 Was he the inspiration? 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:16.840 He got a lot in the rule book? The rule 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:17.960 book started before him. 1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:20.560 Okay, but but there's like you can point to the 1:29:20.640 --> 1:29:22.440 rules now and be like, don't. 1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:25.320 Climb and trust, don't don't don't do this, don't throw food, 1:29:26.000 --> 1:29:30.799 don't fucking tear up, don't fucking paint the motherfucking venue walls. 1:29:30.960 --> 1:29:33.720 It's all mg K, you know what I'm saying. But 1:29:34.840 --> 1:29:38.639 everything that Me and Cut did not Chris Calico, because 1:29:38.640 --> 1:29:41.000 he's always been the same, right, everything that Me and 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:46.639 Cut did, you know, like fucking fat bitches and ship 1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:49.000 and then they sit on the toilet and break the 1:29:49.040 --> 1:29:52.360 toilet and all the water goes everywhere and floods all 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:55.240 the fucking you know what I'm saying, all that ship, 1:29:55.240 --> 1:29:56.599 and we got to pay for all this and all 1:29:56.640 --> 1:29:59.760 that ship. It don't have don't fuck fat bitches. In 1:29:59.760 --> 1:30:02.240 the then rule book, it's just saying, be careful what 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:03.880 you do in the rooms, because we have to pay 1:30:03.920 --> 1:30:06.000 for everything to mess up, you know what I'm saying. 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:08.640 But all the ship that we did over the years, 1:30:09.479 --> 1:30:12.920 you know, don't have sex in the bathroom on the 1:30:12.920 --> 1:30:15.320 bus because you're gonna break the sink. You know, stuff 1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:18.160 that happened, you know what I'm saying. So with any 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:21.280 rule system, we had to do all that fucking up 1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:22.280 to get all that in there. 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:25.479 Yeah, because I remember when Dizzey Wright was on tour 1:30:25.520 --> 1:30:27.080 with you guys meet and him would be talking and 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:29.320 he'd be like, I'm just getting fine every day, man, 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:32.240 because I got to smoke, right, because I can'tnot smoke. 1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:34.320 Well, you can smoke, you just can't smoke on the bus, 1:30:34.400 --> 1:30:37.360 right on the bus right sometimes on the premises they 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:40.720 don't want you to smoke. So, you know, because if 1:30:40.720 --> 1:30:42.840 you break the rules, you can find yes, you do, yes, 1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:45.280 you know, it'll start low and then they'll go up 1:30:45.320 --> 1:30:47.080 to five hundred dollars if you do this. If you 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:51.320 if you transport fans from one city to another to another, 1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:52.559 you know you can't do that. 1:30:52.560 --> 1:30:55.200 That's it. That's like what you call that ship, you 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:58.360 know that they'll call that something. Yeah, they call nowadays 1:30:58.400 --> 1:30:59.160 it's human trafficking. 1:30:59.240 --> 1:30:59.960 Yeah, it's trafficking. 1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:01.880 Yeah, Like if you if you fly a girl out 1:31:02.040 --> 1:31:05.000 for the intent of sex, it's human trafficking, even if 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:09.439 it's weird. Well, yeah, there are like some of these things, 1:31:09.479 --> 1:31:11.400 like obviously Diddy is a piece of shit, but some 1:31:11.479 --> 1:31:13.800 of the things are saying did he did? I'm like, well, 1:31:13.840 --> 1:31:16.120 like ninety eight percent of every rapper and hip hop 1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:18.080 has flown a check out and gave her some money. 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:25.559 The fuck I ain't, not necessarily, not directly, but like, yeah, 1:31:25.640 --> 1:31:27.880 let's go shopping, let's go, let's go get dinner. Ye, 1:31:28.439 --> 1:31:29.200 let me pay for the fly. 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:31.200 Yeah, you're you're you're indirectly Pavel. 1:31:30.960 --> 1:31:35.040 But for sure, Yo, there's so many of your records 1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:38.040 because I know you're such a huge fan of horror movies. 1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:40.920 You are a horror movie buff. Yes, yes, what's your 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:42.760 what's your goat? But like, what's you likely your top 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:44.479 three or four hor horror movies of all time? 1:31:44.600 --> 1:31:46.880 I'm the lyrical Michael Myers man, everybody know that. 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:49.080 You know what I'm saying. So it's Halloween, do you, fellow? 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:51.439 Did you love the rob Zombie Halloweens? Of course I 1:31:51.439 --> 1:31:53.080 loved them. Yeah, I own all of I know that 1:31:53.120 --> 1:31:55.480 they're very like ow all of I think they're polarizing 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:57.640 for some people. Yeah, on all of what do you 1:31:57.640 --> 1:31:58.439 think about terrifier. 1:31:58.720 --> 1:32:00.920 I love terrifier. I love art. Now, you know, I've 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:02.559 seen all of them. I saw the three hour one, 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:03.680 me and my wife. You know what I'm saying. 1:32:03.760 --> 1:32:06.519 Yeah, the new one was pretty crazy. It's like Christmas 1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:06.960 movie people. 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:08.840 Yeah, people were leaving out. You know what I'm saying. 1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:11.040 People were leaving out. We were we were on rooms laughing. 1:32:11.240 --> 1:32:14.600 But I feel like some of your records could be 1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:16.719 horror movie Csycho Bitch. 1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:19.600 Well, this is the thing. I hear. A lot of 1:32:19.600 --> 1:32:21.960 people say that I'm a horror core a rapper, but 1:32:22.000 --> 1:32:23.799 they don't know. I've never looked at myself as. 1:32:23.640 --> 1:32:25.320 A horror core I don't think you're that at all, 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:25.439 you know. 1:32:25.439 --> 1:32:26.720 What I'm saying. But a lot of people think that 1:32:26.800 --> 1:32:28.360 because of my darkness. You know what I'm saying. My 1:32:28.400 --> 1:32:31.400 darkness is my life. Psycho Bitch is real stories, right, 1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.519 you know what I'm saying. But when you get into 1:32:33.600 --> 1:32:37.280 ko D, that's when the lines get blurred because I 1:32:37.280 --> 1:32:39.120 got things on there like black in the Sun. That's 1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:41.679 my imagination and they will put that in the horror 1:32:41.720 --> 1:32:45.200 core bracket, I think. But I've never looked at myself 1:32:45.320 --> 1:32:49.439 as a shock horror core MC. I've just I've always 1:32:49.520 --> 1:32:55.560 been infatuated with the darkness, per my Christian mom, Marty Soyer's. 1:32:55.200 --> 1:32:58.400 Khalifa, And if you listen to KOD, it was was 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:00.240 show me a God kicking that off. 1:33:00.280 --> 1:33:04.040 Yes, show me a guy. Yes, but all that shit 1:33:04.160 --> 1:33:06.200 is dark. But it's my life. I've always wrote my life. 1:33:06.240 --> 1:33:09.720 I didn't ever have to say things to really shock anybody, 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:13.439 but I've done it in my career to where I 1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:16.080 talk about nipples and noodles and ship this in my mine. 1:33:16.120 --> 1:33:18.120 You know what I'm saying. Because I'm a horror fan, 1:33:18.280 --> 1:33:21.640 you know, but I've never looked at myself in that 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:26.920 horror genre like Grave Diggers or when it when WU 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:30.000 Tang them did it Netcrow? I don't really know if 1:33:30.040 --> 1:33:31.320 Neckro did that all really know? 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:34.519 But no, yeah, but Grave Diggers with Prince Paul and Rizza, Yeah. 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:36.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying, 1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:39.720 flatliners and all the mothers I've never done. I never 1:33:40.520 --> 1:33:41.599 aspire to be that. 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:43.720 Yeah. I feel like KOD was like, if you're in 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:45.280 a dark place because of what you're going through with 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:48.240 your with your mind, like you're going to create a 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:48.760 dark So. 1:33:49.120 --> 1:33:52.599 With the face paint and the Bishops Robe. They thought 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:54.519 horror core, you know what I'm saying, And that's what 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:55.160 people were like. 1:33:55.360 --> 1:33:58.240 I'm just curious, Like you're such a visionary, like at 1:33:58.240 --> 1:34:00.599 a certain point in time, like I can see you 1:34:00.640 --> 1:34:03.560 like executive, Like I don't know if it's directing or 1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:07.000 executive producing horror movies or or just getting into like 1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:09.160 flashing out some of these ideas you have. 1:34:09.600 --> 1:34:14.640 I got with Joseph Bashara. He's the composer for you know, 1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:21.000 the music for the Conjuring, for Annabelle, for Insidious, he's 1:34:21.040 --> 1:34:25.720 the Red Devil and Insidious. Joseph We've worked a couple 1:34:25.760 --> 1:34:29.719 of times on music and I, you know, would Rob Pryor. 1:34:30.320 --> 1:34:32.760 I've built with him, you know, on images coming out 1:34:32.800 --> 1:34:34.960 of my head. You know, he's a comic book artist, 1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:37.479 you know what I'm saying, one of the best. I've 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:39.360 talked to him about getting stuff out of my head, 1:34:39.360 --> 1:34:43.280 and he's drawn things are creatures that come out of 1:34:43.280 --> 1:34:44.560 my head, and we got it in our books and 1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:47.560 stuff like that. But I haven't done it on a 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:52.360 level to where I took time to stop touring with 1:34:52.439 --> 1:34:56.240 Tech nine and writing albums commitment. That's a big commitment 1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:59.240 to do movies. You know what I mean. You know, 1:35:00.800 --> 1:35:02.760 acting feels weird to me. I've done a few. I've 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:04.880 done The Devil's Carnival with Darren Bousman, you know what 1:35:04.920 --> 1:35:08.400 I'm saying. And I've done one back in the day 1:35:08.439 --> 1:35:15.720 with Denny Treyo called Vengeance. You know. I've done the 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:19.600 Life of Lucky Cucumber with the Jackass Dudes. You know 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:23.280 what I'm saying. But every time I've done it, people 1:35:23.280 --> 1:35:25.920 say I do it well, but I feel weird. I 1:35:25.920 --> 1:35:29.639 feel weird trying to be somebody else, and I feel 1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:30.960 comfortable doing music though. 1:35:31.920 --> 1:35:32.680 Yeah. 1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:36.559 So directing out of the comfort zone. No, no, No, directing 1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:37.519 is good, but acting, no. 1:35:37.720 --> 1:35:39.040 You know what I'm saying, I would say, yeah, I 1:35:39.080 --> 1:35:42.360 mean I think like, I just feel like, if you 1:35:42.400 --> 1:35:45.479 know you have the you have it in you to 1:35:45.520 --> 1:35:46.800 do it. Yes, I do, Yes, I do. 1:35:46.880 --> 1:35:53.160 I just I just wrote seventeen episodes for my audio 1:35:53.240 --> 1:35:56.400 series fifty sixteen four US, so it's going in that direction. 1:35:56.600 --> 1:35:59.000 I love it. Yeah, man, did you ever really let 1:35:59.000 --> 1:36:01.200 a stripper burn you on the arm with a cigarette? 1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:03.639 Look at it? That's okay, Look at that, man. 1:36:03.560 --> 1:36:06.720 That's that's a cigarette. Ten times in a row. If 1:36:06.760 --> 1:36:11.200 you see me, do uh am? I psycho on stage? 1:36:11.960 --> 1:36:14.360 On stage, I'm holding my mic and I'm pointing at it. 1:36:14.600 --> 1:36:16.080 Why do I let the stripper burn me on my 1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:18.040 arm with a cigarette and the saint about ten times 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:19.519 on the road. And I feel that when I feel 1:36:19.560 --> 1:36:23.040 that burner, palm could arrest I'm gonna yeah, yeah, it's 1:36:23.080 --> 1:36:26.679 right there. That was in my high day that night. 1:36:26.800 --> 1:36:29.720 Like it's like a couple It happened a couple of 1:36:29.720 --> 1:36:34.160 times right there. Happened a couple of times. Then the 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:37.200 room I realized it was damaging my beautiful skin. Yeah, 1:36:37.560 --> 1:36:41.120 no ship and I'm like, I can't. I gotta stop this. Yeah, 1:36:41.439 --> 1:36:44.400 you know, I was on big XD back then, big shrooms, 1:36:44.760 --> 1:36:48.320 big g hb out of all. You know what I'm 1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:50.040 saying all the one time, you know what I'm saying, 1:36:50.360 --> 1:36:53.240 liquor everything all at once. I'm still here. That's crazy. 1:36:53.240 --> 1:36:53.760 I'm still here. 1:36:53.840 --> 1:36:57.639 Thank god. You you weren't You weren't on those runs 1:36:57.920 --> 1:36:59.280 when Fetanah was so prevalent. 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:00.760 Oh no, no, I never. I never putting none. 1:37:01.400 --> 1:37:02.920 I know back then. Though, you know what I'm saying, 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:05.480 Ecstasy now is pressing pressed with fantom. 1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:07.200 Yea, yeah, yeah, everything, you know what I mean, crazy, 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:08.080 you gotta be. 1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:10.519 Just be super super careful these days. If you're partying, Damn, 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:11.720 you can only eat rooms and smoke. 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:13.360 You see that, you see you see you see that, 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:15.240 you see that. That's That's when I was being a 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:18.400 fucking weirdo and fire against my skin in my mind 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:22.759 felt great, right, but my skin, my skin, my skin 1:37:22.840 --> 1:37:25.240 would be pink and bleeding. You know what I'm saying. 1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:27.880 The night for sure, you know what I'm saying. 1:37:28.200 --> 1:37:31.320 She got she's smoking, sitting next to me. She's right here, 1:37:31.640 --> 1:37:33.960 I got my handles. Man, I'm like hit me with 1:37:34.040 --> 1:37:39.479 it every time, and she's like, you know all remembers, 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:42.920 like you're fucking freaky, Like shut up, just keep burning me. 1:37:43.000 --> 1:37:46.880 What's next for a Strange? Strange music obviously is a powerhouse. 1:37:46.920 --> 1:37:50.120 I mean, I know, you know you guys can kind 1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:53.040 of switch to like more of a distro model recently. 1:37:53.200 --> 1:37:54.400 Yeah, yeah, it goes up. 1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:57.000 What is what is next for for Strange Man? 1:37:58.080 --> 1:38:01.240 Next for Strange just fifty eight sixteen? Next for Strangers, 1:38:01.280 --> 1:38:03.719 ISO's new album X Rated. You know what I'm saying, 1:38:03.840 --> 1:38:07.759 Hush Joey cool j Jerry Robinson. You know what I'm saying. 1:38:09.400 --> 1:38:11.679 We're not slowing down, bro, Bro, you know what I'm saying. 1:38:11.680 --> 1:38:17.599 They I'm getting I'm getting way more polished with my writing. 1:38:20.720 --> 1:38:28.160 I'm getting better with my songs period. And we're all elite. 1:38:29.960 --> 1:38:31.920 When I say we all, I mean all my artist 1:38:32.439 --> 1:38:35.519 and myself. I didn't eat no breakfast today, man. 1:38:36.160 --> 1:38:38.000 Makes two of us. I'm off a fucking energy. 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:40.600 But this was the first thing I had to do. 1:38:41.400 --> 1:38:43.040 They don't even have no fucking water in my room 1:38:43.080 --> 1:38:45.360 when I was in Australia. Man, Yet they have water. 1:38:45.600 --> 1:38:47.799 You can go in the mini bar and get two waters. 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:51.720 And I ain't got shit in this but anyway, they 1:38:51.800 --> 1:38:55.880 just want nigga die. But anyway, it's next for strange. Man, 1:38:55.920 --> 1:39:00.559 it's we're doing bigger tours. Man, We're doing better music. 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:04.960 No sign of slowing down, man, You know what I'm saying. 1:39:05.280 --> 1:39:10.200 Was there ever any truth I had heard and you 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:11.960 tell me this is true or not that you guys 1:39:12.360 --> 1:39:16.120 had talked about maybe signing Bone Thugs and Harmony at 1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:19.160 a certain point in time. Was that ever sniffed around about? Like, 1:39:19.280 --> 1:39:21.080 was that ever anything that almost happened? 1:39:21.680 --> 1:39:25.160 I don't remember this. I don't remember this. I know 1:39:25.200 --> 1:39:28.479 we're on tour with them and O three and we've 1:39:28.520 --> 1:39:33.920 done you know, shows together lately, but uh, I don't 1:39:33.960 --> 1:39:34.920 think they ever needed it. 1:39:35.720 --> 1:39:36.599 I mean, that's that's fair. 1:39:36.640 --> 1:39:37.840 I don't think they ever needed it. 1:39:37.960 --> 1:39:43.519 What was there ever, anybody who you guys were talking 1:39:43.600 --> 1:39:45.800 to who I mean, obviously, I feel like jelly Roll 1:39:45.880 --> 1:39:48.200 is a big example of somebody who kind of came 1:39:48.240 --> 1:39:50.080 on board with the distro side early on when you 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:52.479 guys started the distro thing and it turned into you 1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:57.519 know what we see now? Yeah, yeah, shout out to yeah, yeah, 1:39:57.560 --> 1:39:58.080 for sure. 1:39:57.920 --> 1:39:59.719 For sure, for sure, fucking Grammys and shit? 1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:04.439 Was there ever any artists who almost did a strange 1:40:04.479 --> 1:40:08.040 deal who just for whatever reason just never hop. 1:40:08.720 --> 1:40:13.320 Hopson pre funk volume Yes, Wow, Hopson and Dame came 1:40:13.360 --> 1:40:14.160 into the office. 1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:15.880 Wow. What I'm saying. 1:40:16.760 --> 1:40:18.479 Travels was trying to get me to listen to Snow 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:22.320 the product for two years before I did, Please, man, 1:40:22.360 --> 1:40:23.559 listen to this. I never did. 1:40:24.479 --> 1:40:30.000 And look Grammy nominated, Latin Grammy nominated. She's She's on Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, 1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:31.400 that's one of my favorite songs on the album. 1:40:31.479 --> 1:40:33.280 She's On a Cosm. You know what I'm saying the 1:40:33.360 --> 1:40:37.840 later is she on I'm trying to think a lot 1:40:37.840 --> 1:40:39.599 of ship. She's on a lot of shit with you. Yes, 1:40:39.920 --> 1:40:42.479 she on one with me and Russ. That's my favorite 1:40:42.520 --> 1:40:44.320 right on the album. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. 1:40:44.360 --> 1:40:46.320 I think we could have had Snow. You know what 1:40:46.320 --> 1:40:48.200 I'm saying. I don't know why. I don't know what 1:40:48.240 --> 1:40:49.679 I was doing in my life that I never listened 1:40:50.280 --> 1:40:54.840 and and that's why we've been We've been connected since 1:40:54.920 --> 1:40:57.040 way back in the day, right, I mean Snow, man. 1:40:57.520 --> 1:41:01.519 I think she's an elite lyricist, but she's a songwriter, man, 1:41:01.600 --> 1:41:02.479 And she's diverse. 1:41:02.920 --> 1:41:05.680 Yes, she is man like, she could do anything that. 1:41:05.840 --> 1:41:08.400 She's crazy and she's so like, she's like she could 1:41:08.720 --> 1:41:09.920 hold her fucking own. 1:41:10.000 --> 1:41:10.639 It's like a mother. 1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:10.920 Fight. 1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:13.439 Always put her at the end of our wrap and everybody. 1:41:13.479 --> 1:41:15.160 That's why I always put her at the end of 1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:18.200 the song crazy. On my last song, I got Kevin 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:22.320 Gates on it. It's called ZOD It's me Joey Cool, 1:41:22.520 --> 1:41:25.000 Kevin Gates and Snow. At the end, he says, she said, 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:26.960 not take put me on the last verse again. 1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:27.720 You know what I'm saying. 1:41:27.800 --> 1:41:31.479 She start off like that you know what she's worthy 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:32.000 of that ship? 1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:32.760 Did did you? 1:41:32.760 --> 1:41:33.200 Guys? Ever? 1:41:33.600 --> 1:41:36.479 You know who I when Funk Volume broke up, somebody 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:37.920 who's a close friend of mine, who I think toward 1:41:37.960 --> 1:41:40.280 with you guys too. Jared Benton's like my brother. I 1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:43.120 love that. I felt like it would have been perfect, 1:41:43.160 --> 1:41:45.519 like a perfect marriage because Jared Benton is is also 1:41:45.640 --> 1:41:48.519 like very like he's a crazy bastard. 1:41:48.680 --> 1:41:53.080 Well he is. But when when Hop and Dame broke, 1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:57.960 I didn't want everybody to come to Strange. That would 1:41:58.000 --> 1:42:01.360 have been ship like that. A lot of people when 1:42:01.360 --> 1:42:04.679 the when the split happened with a Brainstick and Iso, 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:09.160 they's like, but you said you wouldn't sign them niggas 1:42:09.200 --> 1:42:11.760 from Funk Volume, but you signed Iso. I was like, 1:42:12.479 --> 1:42:15.200 Iso was a different thing than me because they fell 1:42:15.240 --> 1:42:20.200 out because of me, because I did bad juju with Iso, 1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:22.680 and then the bad blood started after that, you know 1:42:22.720 --> 1:42:26.360 what I'm saying. So I felt like I owed Io 1:42:27.439 --> 1:42:29.800 what he wanted from Strange, you know what I'm saying. 1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:31.360 So he wanted to tour with us. I got a 1:42:31.479 --> 1:42:34.040 net and I was always talking to twisting and saying 1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:35.600 in between that, Like you know what I'm saying. We 1:42:35.640 --> 1:42:37.960 have texted. He's like, that was the kick in the 1:42:38.080 --> 1:42:40.200 that was the kick in the gut. I'm like, no, man, 1:42:40.200 --> 1:42:41.519 don't look at it like that. Man, I'm just trying 1:42:41.520 --> 1:42:43.160 to help young brother. You know what I'm saying. This, 1:42:43.160 --> 1:42:47.800 that and the other and but the funk volume thing. 1:42:47.960 --> 1:42:51.559 I just didn't want that, you know, would hop to 1:42:51.640 --> 1:42:53.639 be like, damn, man' just gonna take all my artists. 1:42:54.800 --> 1:42:57.320 That makes sense. That makes sense, Worldwide Choppers, would you 1:42:57.360 --> 1:42:58.720 do another one? 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:03.280 It another one? It's called speed Him with eminem Now. 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:05.000 I mean another one. I know that speed Him is 1:43:05.000 --> 1:43:06.920 like I keep in mind. 1:43:07.360 --> 1:43:10.640 I had people slated for speed Him. You know, I'm like, 1:43:11.439 --> 1:43:14.800 I had Daddy Yankee. Really, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:14.800 --> 1:43:16.719 I was, I was in contact, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:17.040 --> 1:43:20.839 I wanted Nicki Minaj. I wanted Kool Egga from Germany. 1:43:21.880 --> 1:43:22.880 I wanted. 1:43:24.680 --> 1:43:26.639 I'm gonna tell you this, I'm sad that we never 1:43:26.680 --> 1:43:30.320 got rits on a worldwide Choppers. Don't worry, but listen. 1:43:30.920 --> 1:43:36.240 I wanted Gabby gabb female artists from Atlanta. She had 1:43:36.240 --> 1:43:39.320 already sent her verse in for Speed Him. I had 1:43:39.360 --> 1:43:41.720 all these people. I had more people slated. You know 1:43:41.720 --> 1:43:42.080 what I'm saying. 1:43:42.080 --> 1:43:44.240 I just can't remember what's Eminem calls though. It's like, 1:43:44.280 --> 1:43:44.960 hey guys, this is something. 1:43:45.800 --> 1:43:48.559 This is Travis saying, Man, you cannot put all those 1:43:48.600 --> 1:43:51.120 people that people don't you know on the song with 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:53.920 Eminem and you you know, he just wanted to be 1:43:53.920 --> 1:43:55.640 me and Eminem. But Chris Calico said, I got to 1:43:55.640 --> 1:43:57.840 get some of that, bro. I had to give it 1:43:57.840 --> 1:44:00.040 to Chris Calico. I never listened to his verse. I 1:44:00.040 --> 1:44:03.479 didn't want to be influenced. And after I did my verse, 1:44:03.520 --> 1:44:06.000 I did my intro. You know what I'm saying, because 1:44:06.000 --> 1:44:08.599 I knew once I sent it an m it's so dope, 1:44:08.640 --> 1:44:10.360 he's gonna do it. So I'm talking about him in 1:44:10.400 --> 1:44:13.240 the first little eight bars. I guess not because he'd 1:44:13.240 --> 1:44:14.760 be the guest spot. You know what I'm saying. I knew, 1:44:15.200 --> 1:44:18.840 you know what I'm saying. So I did my verse 1:44:18.880 --> 1:44:20.439 and I did my last verse with all the el's, 1:44:20.439 --> 1:44:22.040 I'm theory of the final fight. I figuring on fight 1:44:22.680 --> 1:44:27.040 audit and send it to him. Travis's like, man, we 1:44:27.080 --> 1:44:29.160 got to cut all the other people out, man, So 1:44:29.280 --> 1:44:33.120 when we dropped it, it was speed them worldwide choppers too, 1:44:33.920 --> 1:44:36.920 So the fans are like, this is not Worldwide Choppers. 1:44:37.160 --> 1:44:38.280 You know what I'm saying, I'm not. 1:44:38.200 --> 1:44:39.280 The spirit of the first one. 1:44:39.680 --> 1:44:42.240 They was upset, but they had to give it up though. 1:44:42.640 --> 1:44:45.160 I had to like have a rebuttle, like we're the 1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:48.040 dopest rappers worldwide, so so. 1:44:48.520 --> 1:44:50.240 You know in the world. 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:53.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it was bullshit. Yeah. So 1:44:56.520 --> 1:44:59.439 like in the last three years, Like three years ago, 1:45:00.880 --> 1:45:04.720 David Banner was sending me beats and he sent me 1:45:04.800 --> 1:45:12.000 this Annie Lynox beat man, this dun d D. I said. 1:45:12.920 --> 1:45:15.120 I was like, oh my god, I found a new 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:18.240 world wide Choppers. But it was something. It was another 1:45:18.479 --> 1:45:21.320 ship that was in the beat that we couldn't get 1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:23.439 clarity on the clearances, you know what I'm saying. So 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:25.200 I never got to do it. And I'm like, now 1:45:25.240 --> 1:45:27.880 I could bring NICKI Minaj back, I can finally get 1:45:27.960 --> 1:45:30.400 Daddy Yankee, and I can finally get j I D 1:45:30.400 --> 1:45:31.720 And I can finally get you know what I'm saying, 1:45:31.720 --> 1:45:33.200 whoever want to go. You know what I'm saying, whoever 1:45:33.240 --> 1:45:36.840 want to go? You know, I can get Foster from Nigeria. 1:45:37.080 --> 1:45:38.880 You know what I'm saying. All these choppers all over 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:41.560 the world, man, you know what I'm saying, Fucking hurricane 1:45:41.600 --> 1:45:42.840 finally from Kansas City. 1:45:42.920 --> 1:45:43.599 You know what I'm saying. 1:45:44.800 --> 1:45:49.400 Just suss Mace, you know, from Topeka, just all these people. 1:45:49.479 --> 1:45:51.920 You know what I'm saying, King Ioul haven't been on 1:45:51.920 --> 1:45:54.479 one yet. You know what I'm saying. And who would 1:45:54.520 --> 1:45:56.560 you say, rits haven't been on one? You know what 1:45:56.560 --> 1:46:00.200 I'm saying, Just do one? You know. So as it 1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:05.080 stands now, if a beat is worthy, because I said, 1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:07.800 it's on the table, because I said, I said, me 1:46:07.880 --> 1:46:09.800 and my nigga twist the ruler and this it at 1:46:09.800 --> 1:46:13.080 the end of speed on. Because everybody who's done it 1:46:13.080 --> 1:46:16.720 thus far from Eminem to everybody, from k Deane to 1:46:17.160 --> 1:46:20.479 Crazy Bone to who de lo can dilemma, all the 1:46:20.520 --> 1:46:23.000 people Chris Calico, all of them in are in my 1:46:23.400 --> 1:46:25.400 circle of choppers. So I said, if you ain't in 1:46:25.439 --> 1:46:27.000 my circle of choppers, you missed it. Because me and 1:46:27.040 --> 1:46:28.720 my doing nigga twist the ruler and this is it. 1:46:28.960 --> 1:46:32.759 This is it. You know what I'm saying. And uh 1:46:32.880 --> 1:46:36.479 I said that. But now I'm thinking, if I find 1:46:36.479 --> 1:46:39.200 the right beat, nigga, We're gonna go again. We're gonna 1:46:39.200 --> 1:46:42.080 go again. World wid Choppers three. Fuck that, you know 1:46:42.080 --> 1:46:45.320 what I'm saying, because I'm getting more crispy, and you know, 1:46:45.439 --> 1:46:48.559 I'm tired of racing motherfuckers, but I'm down to race still. 1:46:48.600 --> 1:46:50.840 I'm just tired of racing, motherfucker. Everybody to send me 1:46:50.840 --> 1:46:53.280 a track, want me to race. I'm so tired of racing. 1:46:53.880 --> 1:46:57.840 It's almost like when they think, oh this is we 1:46:57.880 --> 1:46:59.080 need to put Tech nine on this one. 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:04.960 Hurt me on the fucking n F track. Trust yeah, everybody, 1:47:04.960 --> 1:47:07.040 no nomber death bring up. I'm just going, man, you 1:47:07.080 --> 1:47:08.720 know what I'm saying. Everybody want to race? You know 1:47:08.760 --> 1:47:10.800 what I'm saying. The one with me and Chris Webby, 1:47:10.840 --> 1:47:11.760 we just did feel like it. 1:47:11.840 --> 1:47:14.160 I feel like Mexican OT could chop two pretty crazy. 1:47:14.200 --> 1:47:16.640 Mexican Ot is another one. Mexican O two is another one. 1:47:16.960 --> 1:47:21.560 Mexican Yeah, I met him. 1:47:22.040 --> 1:47:25.000 MEXICANOT is indeed a chopper is one that I would 1:47:25.000 --> 1:47:25.639 call for sure. 1:47:25.840 --> 1:47:27.200 Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:47:27.240 --> 1:47:29.040 So if the beat steps up, the beat has to 1:47:29.080 --> 1:47:31.400 be massive because all the world wide choppers from Midwest 1:47:31.439 --> 1:47:34.200 Choppers one to Mike West Choppers two to Worldwide Choppers 1:47:34.200 --> 1:47:39.439 to Worldward Choppers two speed them. These beats are massive bullshit. 1:47:39.520 --> 1:47:40.840 That's beat to send motherfuckers. 1:47:40.840 --> 1:47:41.000 Man. 1:47:41.160 --> 1:47:42.960 You know, I really I know NICKI Minaj can do 1:47:43.000 --> 1:47:48.400 that ship. You know what I'm saying. I know that. 1:47:50.600 --> 1:47:53.760 Let me see, I know that. Uh, Denzel Curry can 1:47:53.800 --> 1:47:54.080 do it. 1:47:54.280 --> 1:47:55.120 Logic can do it. 1:47:55.640 --> 1:47:57.600 Yeah, Logic can do it. He had a, he had a, 1:47:57.640 --> 1:47:58.680 he had a he had a chance to do it 1:47:58.680 --> 1:48:02.240 on Rocha. Yeah, he didn't do it after a Joiner though, 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:05.920 But then they got together afterwards and did one together 1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:09.120 and was hard. Yes sir, yes, yes sir, yes sir, 1:48:09.439 --> 1:48:10.800 but forget he can do it for sure. 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:12.679 Do you and Chris talk still a lot? 1:48:12.800 --> 1:48:14.840 Or it was my brother beyond music? 1:48:14.920 --> 1:48:15.680 I love Chris Man. 1:48:15.760 --> 1:48:18.000 Yeah, Man, you know what I'm saying. You know all 1:48:18.040 --> 1:48:19.840 the time, you know what I'm saying. I got him 1:48:19.840 --> 1:48:22.400 in my phone under son of Sam because his name 1:48:22.439 --> 1:48:25.880 is Samuel Christopher William Washington or Sammy William Christopher Watson, 1:48:25.880 --> 1:48:27.680 you know what I'm saying. And I called him a 1:48:27.680 --> 1:48:29.560 son of Sam because his dad's name was Sam. You 1:48:29.600 --> 1:48:32.519 know what I'm saying, Chris the best always Son of 1:48:32.520 --> 1:48:33.559 Sam is in my favorites. 1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:34.960 You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that was like when 1:48:35.040 --> 1:48:36.760 when you guys had that moment at Red Rocks. It 1:48:36.840 --> 1:48:38.679 felt good just because I know both of y'all. 1:48:38.880 --> 1:48:42.160 And then he just came out and surprised everybody and 1:48:42.200 --> 1:48:49.160 did Anxiety with the Casey Orchestra with me Casey Symphony. 1:48:49.800 --> 1:48:52.280 He came out at the end and they fucking blew 1:48:52.400 --> 1:48:55.200 the fucking place up. And I like doing shit like 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:58.439 that because people think that when people leave it's bad blood. 1:48:59.240 --> 1:49:01.760 But Cosm, you know that it's no bad blood. You 1:49:01.760 --> 1:49:03.479 know what I'm saying, Not at all. It's just people 1:49:03.840 --> 1:49:07.679 going on their own to leave something for their children. Yep, 1:49:07.720 --> 1:49:09.040 you know what I'm saying. Because me and Trave already 1:49:09.040 --> 1:49:11.960 got strange music for our children and our families, you 1:49:11.960 --> 1:49:14.160 know what I'm saying. So motherfuckers want to go on 1:49:14.160 --> 1:49:16.599 their own to start something on their own, like may Day. 1:49:16.680 --> 1:49:18.040 You know what I'm saying today? 1:49:18.080 --> 1:49:20.200 Yeah, yeah, man, you know what I mean. And they're 1:49:20.240 --> 1:49:24.280 still on. It goes up all day, all day, So 1:49:24.479 --> 1:49:26.479 no bad blood at all. Scatter managed snowb brim all 1:49:26.479 --> 1:49:28.920 that ship, man, you know what I'm saying. I don't 1:49:28.920 --> 1:49:33.560 know if Travis and Cuddle ever rekindle. 1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:35.880 Hopefully one day. Yeah, time hotel I've never seen never 1:49:36.479 --> 1:49:39.080 would be nice to see all on stage one more time. 1:49:39.320 --> 1:49:41.680 I think. Cut he's like a minister now, man, I 1:49:41.680 --> 1:49:43.840 don't know if he'll do that. 1:49:43.840 --> 1:49:44.280 That's fair. 1:49:44.439 --> 1:49:46.800 He said, he said he was battling demons and ship 1:49:46.800 --> 1:49:48.200 when he was with me, you know, And. 1:49:49.160 --> 1:49:50.920 I mean he was also with you in probably the 1:49:51.360 --> 1:49:53.839 wildest times. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 1:49:54.360 --> 1:49:58.320 So if he looks at strange music as he's going 1:49:58.400 --> 1:50:02.120 to have to battle demons war, I don't I don't know. 1:50:02.439 --> 1:50:05.240 I don't expect, I don't suspect that he will even 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:06.240 think about doing this. 1:50:06.800 --> 1:50:07.040 Yeah. 1:50:07.080 --> 1:50:09.439 I heard he was driving the church van and all 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:11.680 that kind of shit. So who's to say that he 1:50:11.720 --> 1:50:13.479 would even want to do anything like that. 1:50:13.600 --> 1:50:14.680 You know, that's a fair point, man. 1:50:14.720 --> 1:50:17.840 And make no mistake, there's no demons over here. It's 1:50:17.880 --> 1:50:22.320 only angel baby worldly angel or angel babies. Make no mistake. 1:50:22.720 --> 1:50:27.080 The demons and the angels are within ourselves, you know 1:50:27.160 --> 1:50:29.400 what I'm saying. And we have to we have to 1:50:29.680 --> 1:50:32.000 figure out which ones are we going to give power. 1:50:32.520 --> 1:50:36.200 Can you tell me what's been different about being a 1:50:36.280 --> 1:50:38.040 dad at this point in time of your life than 1:50:38.080 --> 1:50:40.320 being a dad at an earlier stage in your life. 1:50:40.320 --> 1:50:43.880 When I had two children at twenty two. Aliah was 1:50:43.880 --> 1:50:48.880 the first. Dantees was right after I hit the road 1:50:48.920 --> 1:50:51.040 like crazy. That's why I made the rain and O six. Yep, 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:55.280 it's hurt me that I was missing birthdays and missing 1:50:55.320 --> 1:50:58.080 graduations and all this kind of thing. Now that we 1:50:58.120 --> 1:51:04.040 had Alena doing less shows, bigger shows and less let's dates, 1:51:04.680 --> 1:51:07.200 I'm home more and it made me realize how much 1:51:07.200 --> 1:51:10.240 time I didn't have with my children that are thirty 1:51:10.280 --> 1:51:12.519 now and twenty six and thirty one and all that 1:51:12.600 --> 1:51:18.000 kind of shit. I have more time now at home, 1:51:18.880 --> 1:51:24.280 and it sucks that my kids had to endure my absence. 1:51:24.880 --> 1:51:29.599 But there I'm sure like they also probably appreciate. I mean, 1:51:29.640 --> 1:51:33.320 you say you have sacrifice tattooed on your I mean yeah, you. 1:51:33.240 --> 1:51:37.160 Know, and they we have a brand new relationship. You know. 1:51:37.439 --> 1:51:40.320 For a while, me and my first Aaliyah, she was like, 1:51:40.640 --> 1:51:44.400 not on my team. She was like not pro daddy, 1:51:44.680 --> 1:51:46.320 you know what I'm saying, And for a good reason. 1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:49.880 And lately in the last year she said, Dad, it's like, 1:51:49.960 --> 1:51:51.599 you're all this new person. Now I don't have any 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:53.240 more insults for you. And I'm like, I'm sure you'll 1:51:53.280 --> 1:51:53.880 find something soon. 1:51:54.960 --> 1:51:55.679 You know what I'm saying. 1:51:56.000 --> 1:51:58.439 Really good, man, really good. We're starting a new chapter 1:51:59.040 --> 1:52:03.760 with Aliyah, Rainbow and Dantees And now Lina's here and 1:52:04.280 --> 1:52:07.519 my wife has Bella Isabella. You know what I'm saying. 1:52:07.800 --> 1:52:11.880 She's she's going on seventeen and we're all a family, man, 1:52:11.920 --> 1:52:16.520 and it's time to start creating new memories. 1:52:16.840 --> 1:52:19.639 I love that. Man. Yeah. Well look Tech, the new 1:52:19.680 --> 1:52:20.320 album is. 1:52:20.240 --> 1:52:24.080 On the way, the sixteenth Forest, This summer new tour 1:52:24.400 --> 1:52:29.680 is coming. Yes, yes, sir, Hollywood and nine tour. I 1:52:29.760 --> 1:52:32.720 might be going back with Ronnie Rocky soon, you know 1:52:32.760 --> 1:52:33.240 what I'm saying. 1:52:33.479 --> 1:52:36.240 And then you got something going on with the World Cup. 1:52:36.680 --> 1:52:39.280 Oh yeah, I did the World Cup Sonic. I d 1:52:39.479 --> 1:52:41.040 for k C. Man, you know what I'm saying. That 1:52:41.160 --> 1:52:46.080 was a flex, you know. And they chose me. They 1:52:46.200 --> 1:52:51.960 called FIFA called me. That's strange. Talked to Travis and said, 1:52:53.120 --> 1:52:56.639 we love Red Kingdom and we love what y'all do. 1:52:57.040 --> 1:52:58.800 We want Tech. They didn't want words. They thought I 1:52:58.800 --> 1:53:02.559 was a producer. Wow, So I'm like, uh, write, I 1:53:02.600 --> 1:53:06.800 write songs. Yeah, That's why I'm the only ID that 1:53:06.920 --> 1:53:09.240 has lyrics, right, you know what I mean, because we 1:53:09.280 --> 1:53:11.679 pushed it, like listen to this, you know what I mean. 1:53:11.800 --> 1:53:14.280 And I fucking did Tech nine on it, you know 1:53:14.280 --> 1:53:15.960 what I mean. And they loved it, and they I 1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:19.439 did five different versions and that fifth one they said, yes, 1:53:20.280 --> 1:53:22.360 that's dope. I had too much in the hook. I guess. 1:53:22.760 --> 1:53:27.080 I feel like you and Travy eventually are gonna own 1:53:27.120 --> 1:53:29.520 the pieces of Royals or the Chiefs or something. 1:53:29.840 --> 1:53:31.519 Everybody say you need to run from Mayor. I'm like, 1:53:31.560 --> 1:53:32.639 I don't know if I want that job. 1:53:32.680 --> 1:53:34.840 No, you just got to either bring an NBA team 1:53:34.840 --> 1:53:37.880 to Kansas City or or or you know, buy a 1:53:37.960 --> 1:53:39.679 chunk of the Royals or something, yeah. 1:53:39.520 --> 1:53:43.160 Man, or build my amusement park strange Land man or 1:53:43.200 --> 1:53:44.639 that yeah yeah, yeah. 1:53:44.680 --> 1:53:45.960 You guys got so much other building. 1:53:45.960 --> 1:53:48.120 I'm building roller coasters in my notebook, man, I've been 1:53:48.120 --> 1:53:49.920 doing it for the last four years. I'm like, but 1:53:49.960 --> 1:53:54.080 it's so it's so intricate, man. And if I saw 1:53:54.160 --> 1:53:56.320 short of the drawing, man, you're laugh like, an this 1:53:56.640 --> 1:54:00.280 is ship I've never seen. And my daughter I was 1:54:00.320 --> 1:54:02.720 going through my pages. It's like the fact that you're 1:54:02.720 --> 1:54:06.120 even trying something like this on paper is crazy. Dad. 1:54:06.200 --> 1:54:09.559 I'm like, I know, I'm to go to sleep. I 1:54:09.640 --> 1:54:13.200 was doing my mantra this roller coaster I see, I'm 1:54:13.200 --> 1:54:16.479 going through the motions of what it does and how 1:54:16.479 --> 1:54:19.880 it goes up and goes down this hole and cone 1:54:19.880 --> 1:54:21.640 at the bottom that you go down and around and 1:54:21.640 --> 1:54:24.800 it's crazy. I'm I'm asleep by the time it goes 1:54:24.840 --> 1:54:26.920 back around. It goes frontwards and then it goes backwards. 1:54:27.080 --> 1:54:29.160 You know, I feel like you guys could do. I 1:54:29.160 --> 1:54:33.400 feel like if you curated a yearly haunted experience. Of course, 1:54:33.560 --> 1:54:35.280 like all you know you go to haunted houses. 1:54:35.520 --> 1:54:39.080 Yeah, of course we went up that could be a Halloween, 1:54:39.120 --> 1:54:41.520 that could be a strange music Halloween. Before last, me 1:54:41.640 --> 1:54:43.280 and my wife and some friends we went down to 1:54:43.360 --> 1:54:44.600 Universal Cities in Orlando. 1:54:44.760 --> 1:54:46.800 Right, you go to the Halloween hornits right. 1:54:46.720 --> 1:54:48.400 And the weekend had a fucking hunter house. 1:54:48.480 --> 1:54:50.280 Dude, he's had a hundred house three or street. That's 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:51.800 fucking crazy, insane. 1:54:51.480 --> 1:54:53.160 And you can see all these ones where you know, 1:54:53.200 --> 1:54:57.240 you have the boh and all of them are jumping 1:54:57.240 --> 1:55:00.840 out at you. I'm like, I do people are gonna 1:55:00.840 --> 1:55:02.879 be fucking petrified, homie. 1:55:02.920 --> 1:55:04.600 No, but I'm saying like you could do it in 1:55:04.680 --> 1:55:07.080 case of course, Yeah, I think that would be crazy. 1:55:07.080 --> 1:55:08.080 I just need to take time. 1:55:08.560 --> 1:55:10.880 It's about the time still doing music. It's about the time. 1:55:10.960 --> 1:55:11.640 It's about time. 1:55:11.680 --> 1:55:15.120 It's about the time, man. So well listen, brother, I 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:17.520 appreciate you hanging out. We finally got a pod done. 1:55:17.560 --> 1:55:20.080 I mean we've how long was it two hours or so? 1:55:20.960 --> 1:55:25.080 We've We've done so many interviews over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:55:25.120 --> 1:55:27.080 This one was the first time I ever had you 1:55:27.120 --> 1:55:28.960 on my show was in two thousand and nine and 1:55:29.040 --> 1:55:32.560 Boise Idaho you Wouldn't Merge came in freestyled, Yeah, and 1:55:32.600 --> 1:55:35.280 you did. Uh. I forget which verse you did you did? 1:55:35.640 --> 1:55:36.080 I don't know. 1:55:36.200 --> 1:55:37.920 It was one of the verses off Tech Night Collapse, 1:55:38.280 --> 1:55:43.600 probably where you were I forget yeah too. But yeah, man, 1:55:43.600 --> 1:55:45.280 it's been, it's been. It's been dope to just. 1:55:45.240 --> 1:55:47.080 A long time. It's been. It's been good to see 1:55:47.320 --> 1:55:48.600 your ascension. 1:55:48.080 --> 1:55:49.400 Too, brother. I appreciate it. 1:55:49.480 --> 1:55:52.400 Man, You're a fixture and this ship trying, brother, Yeah, 1:55:52.440 --> 1:55:53.040 for sure, damn. 1:55:53.640 --> 1:55:55.400 And I try to do my part to always mention you, 1:55:55.440 --> 1:55:57.120 bro when we talk about every time. 1:55:57.160 --> 1:56:00.000 Every time you do they my fans send it to me. Yeah, 1:56:00.040 --> 1:56:02.560 I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it. There's always some 1:56:02.640 --> 1:56:05.080 connection with all the new the new guys too. 1:56:05.120 --> 1:56:06.880 That's what I always say. I'm like, yo, like I 1:56:07.080 --> 1:56:10.040 like feel like when it comes to like a certain 1:56:10.200 --> 1:56:13.720 like pocket of the underground world that I kind of 1:56:13.760 --> 1:56:17.920 came up pushing, it's like my responsibility to be like Yo, 1:56:18.000 --> 1:56:20.680 Yellow hangout for the Mexicano TA interview we're about to do. 1:56:20.800 --> 1:56:23.000 You were there that night? Oh, like, oh you were there? 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:29.320 I was fucked. Yeah, you know it's like like, you know, like, 1:56:29.360 --> 1:56:32.960 how how can I try to bring like either artists 1:56:32.960 --> 1:56:36.360 who I feel like would be dope to that world 1:56:36.640 --> 1:56:39.920 or just you know, shine light to like right to 1:56:40.240 --> 1:56:42.520 some of these guys who are you know, I consider 1:56:42.560 --> 1:56:44.560 to be goats? You like yourself? You know, I appreciate it. 1:56:44.560 --> 1:56:44.760 Man. 1:56:45.120 --> 1:56:47.760 Do you feel like you get the recognition and the 1:56:47.800 --> 1:56:49.720 greatest of all time convo? I'm sure you don't give 1:56:49.720 --> 1:56:51.720 a fuck, but I'm not. 1:56:51.960 --> 1:56:55.680 I don't get that recognition because, uh, I don't need 1:56:55.760 --> 1:56:57.200 I don't need it. I don't need I don't need 1:56:59.320 --> 1:57:03.440 I don't need thatccolades from anybody. I just do music 1:57:04.280 --> 1:57:08.280 and if people like it, I love it. You know 1:57:08.320 --> 1:57:16.520 what I'm saying, And I don't need validation from people 1:57:16.640 --> 1:57:18.400 or the culture or anything. You know what I'm saying, 1:57:18.440 --> 1:57:19.400 But I would like it. 1:57:20.440 --> 1:57:22.400 No, I know you would like it. I know, I 1:57:22.440 --> 1:57:23.760 know like it. I mean you like it? 1:57:24.080 --> 1:57:27.240 Yeah, you know what I mean? And uh, I mean fragile. 1:57:27.240 --> 1:57:30.680 One of your biggest records is literally about people critiquing. 1:57:30.280 --> 1:57:32.080 Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir. That's why I took 1:57:32.120 --> 1:57:33.960 the time to do that on a song like that, 1:57:34.000 --> 1:57:36.280 and it blew up on the radio. I had no idea, 1:57:36.920 --> 1:57:40.760 But I don't need it, but I'd like it, you 1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:42.440 know what I'm saying, because I put a lot into 1:57:42.880 --> 1:57:44.880 what I write. You know what I mean. I always have. 1:57:45.600 --> 1:57:51.240 And over the years, you hear all the new generation 1:57:51.440 --> 1:57:54.920 talking about Tech nine. That's the validation right there. You 1:57:54.920 --> 1:57:57.760 know what I'm saying. You hear you know, L Russell 1:57:57.840 --> 1:58:00.800 talking about Tech nine. You hear Russtop about Tech nine. 1:58:00.840 --> 1:58:03.320 You hear all these people, Playboy CARDI. You know what 1:58:03.360 --> 1:58:05.720 I'm saying. You hear all these people. I just met 1:58:05.840 --> 1:58:09.080 Offset at the super Bowl and as soon as he 1:58:09.560 --> 1:58:13.240 said Tech nine, he looked, he smiled, and he said, legend, man, Legend, 1:58:13.280 --> 1:58:15.680 you know what I'm saying. It's like, that's validation right there. 1:58:15.760 --> 1:58:18.080 Yeah, it's almost like all that other shit you would like, 1:58:18.320 --> 1:58:22.280 but that is as rewarding to hear from from the peers, 1:58:22.320 --> 1:58:24.640 from your peers and from like a whole new generation 1:58:24.680 --> 1:58:26.000 that aren't necessarily your peers. 1:58:26.480 --> 1:58:28.000 And them to do a song for you, like to speed. 1:58:28.040 --> 1:58:30.840 The man that's val doesn't do a song for anybody, No, man, 1:58:31.000 --> 1:58:33.080 for sure, you damn you gotta signed to him to 1:58:33.080 --> 1:58:33.480 get a burse. 1:58:34.200 --> 1:58:37.240 All that's is validation. You know what I'm saying, Two chains, Bob, 1:58:37.440 --> 1:58:39.560 All that shit is validation. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 1:58:39.640 --> 1:58:40.879 Kendrick Lamar is validation. 1:58:40.960 --> 1:58:41.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:58:41.400 --> 1:58:44.840 We shooting the video in Kansas City for Fragile. We're 1:58:44.840 --> 1:58:47.840 sitting in this super cold outside, so Travis got his 1:58:48.000 --> 1:58:49.760 RV down there and we're in the RV trying to 1:58:49.800 --> 1:58:52.000 warm up from the top is with him and he's 1:58:52.040 --> 1:58:55.160 like tech Fragile's dope. Man. You know what I'm saying. 1:58:55.360 --> 1:58:57.680 That's Kendrick talking to me, and I'm like, thank you, brother. 1:58:57.880 --> 1:59:01.480 It's been cool to see just topped off evolve as 1:59:01.520 --> 1:59:08.280 this like powerhouse. Right. It's it's it's it's insane. And 1:59:08.280 --> 1:59:10.920 and I I mean, and I'm sure if you asked 1:59:10.960 --> 1:59:14.400 top he took I'm sure a lot of inspiration and 1:59:14.560 --> 1:59:16.320 he learned a lot. I learned a lot from his 1:59:16.400 --> 1:59:19.760 experience with with y'all and putting out that J rock album. 1:59:20.080 --> 1:59:23.440 Man, yes, sir, And what's happening to them? Man? Him 1:59:23.440 --> 1:59:27.960 and Punch and all them is? Uh is astronomical? Man? 1:59:28.120 --> 1:59:28.360 Yeah? 1:59:28.680 --> 1:59:32.800 And Kendrick is beyond the Stars. 1:59:32.560 --> 1:59:36.600 And then it's like removed Kendrick all that all the 1:59:36.640 --> 1:59:41.720 Stars is. I don't know if you heard her album is. 1:59:42.120 --> 1:59:42.960 She Is a Monster? 1:59:43.440 --> 1:59:46.840 Is my favorite album last year? 1:59:46.880 --> 1:59:49.920 And and and and dude, how do they find these motherfuckers? 1:59:50.400 --> 1:59:52.160 She's an alien creatively. 1:59:52.720 --> 2:00:00.400 Man fucking lyrically inclined, conceptualistically incline. It's so c MC 2:00:01.400 --> 2:00:03.320 song stress everything. 2:00:03.400 --> 2:00:03.560 Man. 2:00:03.720 --> 2:00:06.960 Yeah, it's like, damn, like, y'all really got whoever? Like 2:00:07.040 --> 2:00:10.280 you know? Shouts to uh top Son Musa's who I 2:00:10.320 --> 2:00:14.640 believe signed? Uh Dochi? Really yeah, Musa signed do I? 2:00:15.040 --> 2:00:17.800 So it's like, man, good, that's a grab right there 2:00:17.960 --> 2:00:19.960 out of Tampa too. She's out of here, man, she 2:00:20.160 --> 2:00:24.280 is out of here? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, Well listen brother. 2:00:24.320 --> 2:00:27.360 I appreciate you. Uh man, I'm just I'm a fan 2:00:27.480 --> 2:00:30.080 bro first, you know, and obviously her my friend and 2:00:30.080 --> 2:00:33.920 and uh, you know, I feel like a lot of 2:00:34.040 --> 2:00:37.200 a lot of people if you're getting into the music industry, 2:00:37.320 --> 2:00:39.960 like you're watching this and you may be like, man, 2:00:40.160 --> 2:00:41.960 it's the first I heard of tech. Like, hey, man, like, 2:00:41.960 --> 2:00:44.240 if you go take this rap shit series, you got 2:00:44.240 --> 2:00:46.760 to like study what you do. 2:00:46.800 --> 2:00:50.000 Exactly for real. Yeah, it's a blessed position being. 2:00:50.640 --> 2:00:53.720 Yeah, it's like when I think of all this independent ship, 2:00:53.800 --> 2:00:56.920 it's like hot all of a sudden, I'm like, man. 2:00:57.280 --> 2:00:59.360 They but just don't don't think like that, because they 2:00:59.440 --> 2:01:03.480 all to me and say, if it wasn't for you, 2:01:03.560 --> 2:01:06.120 for sure, man, you showed us early on. Man, they 2:01:06.120 --> 2:01:07.840 all say it, they all give they all give it up. 2:01:07.960 --> 2:01:09.760 Yeah, for sure, man, you change I mean, whether I mean, 2:01:09.800 --> 2:01:11.440 I'm sure you know, but you changed the rap game 2:01:11.480 --> 2:01:14.240 for real, whether or not as sonic sonically or but 2:01:14.320 --> 2:01:16.320 the business of rap music has changed because the. 2:01:16.320 --> 2:01:21.640 Strange track record that's untouchable. 2:01:21.640 --> 2:01:23.400 Shout out to Travis two, who's got way too many cars. 2:01:23.440 --> 2:01:25.760 He should let me have one, and uh he's waiting 2:01:25.840 --> 2:01:26.280 those cars. 2:01:26.280 --> 2:01:27.240 Man, he's in the car business. 2:01:27.240 --> 2:01:28.560 I want to give shot out to Travis two for 2:01:28.560 --> 2:01:30.360 being the buffet old man. They don't just the cars 2:01:30.360 --> 2:01:32.920 from that motherfucker. He's lifting a lot of weights. Oh yes, 2:01:33.000 --> 2:01:33.879 he is jacked. 2:01:34.120 --> 2:01:36.160 He ain't. He ain't big trave no more. 2:01:36.280 --> 2:01:38.560 Yeah. You know what's so funny is like I don't 2:01:38.560 --> 2:01:41.120 think people would understand because early tech shows Travis would 2:01:41.120 --> 2:01:44.480 be on stage of security is certain shows you'll still 2:01:44.480 --> 2:01:48.920 see him standing. Will you ever bring the face paint back? 2:01:50.800 --> 2:01:52.440 Because that's it, that's a commitment. You got to have 2:01:52.440 --> 2:01:54.440 the face paint guy on on. I forget that over 2:01:54.520 --> 2:01:55.960 the years. I forget the old guy who used to 2:01:56.000 --> 2:01:58.400 paint your face. Yeah. Scenario, yeah, scenario, that's right. 2:01:58.480 --> 2:02:02.800 Scenario before scenario that was Craig David. He died before. 2:02:02.840 --> 2:02:06.440 The very first was Brian Dennis, he died. You know 2:02:06.480 --> 2:02:10.560 what I'm saying. My last was second to the last 2:02:11.000 --> 2:02:14.040 was Jose Ramirez. He quit. He wanted to be at 2:02:14.040 --> 2:02:16.080 home with his little girl, Millie, you know what I'm saying, 2:02:16.080 --> 2:02:19.520 to raise her, which is noble. And then on my 2:02:19.600 --> 2:02:23.400 lapt my fifth one was Ubi from Sess Crew. He's 2:02:23.520 --> 2:02:28.440 too massive of an artist to be following me around 2:02:29.120 --> 2:02:33.960 and over the years started you know, Brian Dinnis started 2:02:33.960 --> 2:02:36.160 the skull face. Then I just started doing my forehead, 2:02:36.400 --> 2:02:38.920 but over the years turned into my whole face and 2:02:38.960 --> 2:02:41.480 my whole head. That shit takes three hours every night. 2:02:42.520 --> 2:02:44.200 I feel like when you did the mask, it was 2:02:44.200 --> 2:02:45.160 a perfect compromise. 2:02:45.320 --> 2:02:48.880 That's what I'm saying, take it off. Called Corey Taylor. 2:02:48.920 --> 2:02:52.960 I said, listen, man, I can't afford to keep taking, 2:02:53.080 --> 2:02:56.520 not money wise, but like the time, because the time. 2:02:56.560 --> 2:02:58.640 I can't afford the time, and you be being an 2:02:58.720 --> 2:03:01.520 artist that's on the incline. I cannot. Hey, man, we 2:03:01.560 --> 2:03:03.440 got to go to fucking UK if you could paint 2:03:03.480 --> 2:03:06.040 my face and he got to have his shit held up? 2:03:06.160 --> 2:03:08.160 No, who's making the slipknop mask? Give me there? 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:11.680 Saying no, I called Corey Taylor and I said, listen, man, 2:03:12.080 --> 2:03:15.320 I need a mask that can endure a two hour 2:03:15.440 --> 2:03:18.400 fucking show. And y'all the only ones I know that 2:03:18.600 --> 2:03:23.120 got him for sure, he said, Jake Rounjass California, gave 2:03:23.120 --> 2:03:25.880 me the number. I've been fucking with Jake on like, 2:03:26.640 --> 2:03:31.520 I think we've had three or four different versions of 2:03:31.520 --> 2:03:32.800 the clown thus far. 2:03:32.960 --> 2:03:34.960 You know, what I'm saying, that's dope. 2:03:35.480 --> 2:03:40.160 And uh, I think for a show maybe. 2:03:39.960 --> 2:03:42.200 Maybe for the thirty video. What about for the thirty 2:03:42.280 --> 2:03:43.760 year anniversary. 2:03:43.720 --> 2:03:46.520 Maybe for a video or something. I'll call Ubi and 2:03:46.560 --> 2:03:49.360 see if he's in town and will three hours to 2:03:49.400 --> 2:03:50.920 do my fucking whole head. 2:03:51.080 --> 2:03:52.560 I feel like y'all got to do like a crazy 2:03:52.560 --> 2:03:55.640 show for the thirty years. The thirty years are strange. 2:03:56.800 --> 2:03:58.920 That shit used to burn my eyes like crazy. Oh, 2:03:58.960 --> 2:04:02.160 I bet know what I'm saying. So the Silicon mask 2:04:02.240 --> 2:04:03.440 man really helps me? 2:04:04.200 --> 2:04:06.320 Yeah, for sure? For sure. I can only imagine I'd 2:04:06.360 --> 2:04:09.560 be like, damn like that shit is a commitment every night, yeah, man, 2:04:09.680 --> 2:04:10.720 Yeah for sure. 2:04:11.120 --> 2:04:15.440 Yeah yeah, every night, three hours. The last gathering we did, 2:04:16.120 --> 2:04:18.240 he had to paint my face three hours before I 2:04:18.280 --> 2:04:20.040 went on outside back in here. 2:04:19.880 --> 2:04:23.120 Walking around sweating before the show. Anyway, for sure, man. 2:04:22.960 --> 2:04:24.600 It's hard, hard to do, hard to deal with the 2:04:24.640 --> 2:04:27.360 face plants, A hard commitment because the way I see 2:04:27.400 --> 2:04:30.960 the clown morphing, it keeps getting worse and worse every year. 2:04:31.000 --> 2:04:32.240 You know what I'm saying in my mind, You know 2:04:32.280 --> 2:04:35.760 what I'm saying. With the corrosion and everything. So I 2:04:35.800 --> 2:04:38.800 don't know, man, maybe I'll sit down for three hours. 2:04:38.880 --> 2:04:41.720 I won't say never though, right I like it? Man, Well, listen, Tech, 2:04:41.760 --> 2:04:44.160 I appreciate you pulling up by the album. This summer 2:04:44.840 --> 2:04:49.200 tour coming. When's the tour start day after tomorrow? Oh yeah, 2:04:49.360 --> 2:04:50.160 you're you're locked in? 2:04:50.240 --> 2:04:55.240 How many from Australia? Like twenty something bad? That's something 2:04:55.320 --> 2:04:59.400 light for you, twenty five? Anything under forty is light 2:04:59.440 --> 2:05:02.680 work for you. Ain't for sure, you know what I'm saying. 2:05:03.000 --> 2:05:05.080 So hey, man, Tech, go go see him on on 2:05:05.360 --> 2:05:07.640 the road. The new record is out right now too, 2:05:07.680 --> 2:05:09.280 so you can go support to the new singles out 2:05:09.320 --> 2:05:12.240 right now. Yeah, the new record in the new record, 2:05:12.240 --> 2:05:14.960 don't come out to Uh. Well, when I think of record, 2:05:15.000 --> 2:05:15.600 I think of a song. 2:05:15.680 --> 2:05:16.440 Yeah you can say that. 2:05:16.600 --> 2:05:20.400 Yes, yes, the technicality new record RDV is the new song. 2:05:20.560 --> 2:05:21.880 Yeah, it's out. 2:05:22.040 --> 2:05:24.640 Go watch the video and Tech, I appreciate you pulling up, brother, 2:05:24.680 --> 2:05:27.480 Thank you brother, Yes, Sir Tech nine, Yes boom