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Speaker 2: of the greatest rappers of all time. Hey, greatest performer
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Speaker 1: Hey tech nine, chech nine.
Speaker 2: What's up y'all? What's up? Brother?
Speaker 1: Oh Man? Good to be here, man, of course, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm here. I'm half fifteen hours from Australia.
Speaker 2: You were in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow. I was only at home with my family
Speaker 1: for like six hours. Man. Then I had to get
Speaker 1: on the plane to come out here to shuit this video.
Speaker 2: I don't say people understand because I had to go
Speaker 2: to Thailand for Roland Love last year. That time difference
Speaker 2: is the worst.
Speaker 1: Australia is like a day ahead, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when I was going on stage, No,
Speaker 1: when I was getting off stage, it was seven in
Speaker 1: the morning. For you know, when my wife wakes up
Speaker 1: for the kid, you know, so I would call her
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night. It's like seven o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning in casey right, man, it's.
Speaker 2: Horrible, It's horrible. Congrats on the baby, by the way,
Speaker 2: Thank you man.
Speaker 1: New Life, Man, New Life.
Speaker 2: You know what I love about your transparency through your
Speaker 2: music over the years, You've always been extremely open about
Speaker 2: open book. Yes, you're because with everything. There's a sacrifice,
Speaker 2: and your older kids had to really like wear the
Speaker 2: brunt of like you building this career. We see, yes,
Speaker 2: you being on the road. Yes, the rain is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite rest, sir. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Now they're like thirty years old now.
Speaker 2: You know, right, So for you to have a baby
Speaker 2: like now, like it's almost like you're in a different space.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
Speaker 2: You know you're you're You're obviously a different person. You know,
Speaker 2: we all should be evolving, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, in my mid forties, I met I got
Speaker 1: it on my last album. It's a song called I
Speaker 1: Met a Morph. And what I realized is that that
Speaker 1: morph that I met in my mid forties kind of late,
Speaker 1: is maturity. You know what I'm saying. My maturity started,
Speaker 1: you know, really making me pay attention, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to start doing something different. I didn't want to start.
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to continue to share
Speaker 1: my energies, my bright energy and my Harnald energy with
Speaker 1: multiple women anymore. You know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've done it my whole life. Yea, and uh,
Speaker 1: and then do nothing but bring me strife. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or bring other people hurt.
Speaker 2: Short term gratification yeah, man, is usually when you get
Speaker 2: the short term gratification, it's at an expensive something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you know what I'm saying. And I used
Speaker 1: to call it therapy. I need to have my therapy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's just an ego thing.
Speaker 1: And uh, in my mid forties, I wanted to uh
Speaker 1: dial that back, you know. And I met my I
Speaker 1: met my lady who is my wife now, right when
Speaker 1: it was happening, you know. And she she she helped me.
Speaker 1: She helped the transition, you know what I mean. She
Speaker 1: helped the trans She helped me transition with the drinking.
Speaker 1: I'm four years sober now. She did it with me.
Speaker 1: When my doctor told me, if I keep drinking like
Speaker 1: I do, mister Kraboloo, You're gonna your heart's gonna explode.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you know what I'm saying. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I quit, you know. So she said, I'll quit with
Speaker 1: you because she knows, like, as a team, if one of.
Speaker 2: Us, if one of you guys is doing it's going
Speaker 2: to be it's almost impossible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she she she helped me with that.
Speaker 1: She helped me with a lot of things in my
Speaker 1: life that I didn't know was out of whack, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And uh, we're we're evolving every day, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, every second. And you know
Speaker 1: that's what Kanye said, I always find it. I always
Speaker 1: find something wrong. That's that's that's the part of evolving.
Speaker 1: It's part of life, you know what I'm saying. And uh,
Speaker 1: I figured and we we've been together, this is going
Speaker 1: on eleven years now, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we got married in our tenth year, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, last last June.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've made my wife a couple of times. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we actually lived with each other for a while.
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel like people should do it.
Speaker 1: A lot of people, they say, wise man, say only
Speaker 1: foods jump in you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: can't help fall in love with you that A lot
Speaker 1: of people just jump into it and get married immediately
Speaker 1: before they learn different chemic levels about each other and
Speaker 1: you know things that Yeah, when.
Speaker 2: You live with someone, yeah, you have to kind of
Speaker 2: like you almost have to get to the point of
Speaker 2: like seeing each other at your lowest, Yes, so you
Speaker 2: can have that like understand that person on another level.
Speaker 2: So when you do get married, it's like, Okay, now
Speaker 2: that we've seen each other at our absolute lowest, or
Speaker 2: we know what each other's faults are, we know how
Speaker 2: to deal with each other, we know how to deal
Speaker 2: with certain arguments, certain exactly.
Speaker 1: I think people should take time to do that, and
Speaker 1: that's what we did. We took ten years now, not
Speaker 1: saying that she wasn't worthy of marriage in the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because she was, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But we have to go through ups
Speaker 1: and downs, and we indeed had ups and downs, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, financially and everything with the irs.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She had to go through
Speaker 1: that with everything, you know, give away my millions and
Speaker 1: get millions back. You know what I'm saying. That was
Speaker 1: a flex you know what I mean. But I think
Speaker 1: people need to go through those type things with each
Speaker 1: other before they actually get married, because people actually have
Speaker 1: problems when they jump in. Not everybody, though, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not just generalizing. You know, when I say that,
Speaker 1: I think people should take time. And that's what we did. Man,
Speaker 1: we took time. We took ten years, and we tied
Speaker 1: the knot in ten years. I felt like we had
Speaker 1: been through everything possible, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm glad we did it. We're best friends.
Speaker 1: And with that being said, I said, I want to
Speaker 1: have I want to be connected to that woman. So
Speaker 1: we had Alena.
Speaker 2: I love this too, now you know, yeah, man, that's
Speaker 2: big bro. Yeah. So it's so crazy too, because, like
Speaker 2: I said, with your transparency, like you've for people who
Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of generic hip hop fans,
Speaker 2: I feel like twenty twelve twenty I feel like all
Speaker 2: sixes and sevens was a lot of like people's like
Speaker 2: general introduction to what you had going on for so
Speaker 2: many years, right right right, right right right, Because that's
Speaker 2: like when the Wayne Coat sign happens and you're doing
Speaker 2: records with Tea Pain.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he'll be crazy, he'll go crazy all that, but.
Speaker 2: You know you have had such a crazy like like
Speaker 2: like that Caraboolu is double platinum by now it's platinum,
Speaker 2: should be I know it's platinum, but like you know,
Speaker 2: you also like like you're in your heyday, you're known
Speaker 2: for being like a crazy motherfucker. Yeah, like you've never
Speaker 2: you know obviously, Eba. Is it ties into that, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I hung my uh player jersey
Speaker 1: up like tapestry like eleven years ago. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And uh, I'm glad I did. Man saved
Speaker 1: my life because my brother Maxilla was actually writing a
Speaker 1: movie about me called Georgie. We had this We've been
Speaker 1: working on this movie about Tech ninees called Georgie. You know,
Speaker 1: the Georgie Porgie pudding Pie story. Kissed the girls and
Speaker 1: make him cry. That was me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And uh, I told him at the end of it,
Speaker 1: a lady has to kill me. He said, I'm not
Speaker 1: writing that. I'm not writing that. I'm putting it in
Speaker 1: the universe.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's damn near the only way that
Speaker 2: could end.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You play the game of hearts,
Speaker 1: you know, usually the the the punishment is death, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, punishment by death. So I said,
Speaker 1: you have to kill Georgie by a lady. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Lady, you have to do it. He
Speaker 1: just stopped. We don't even write it no more. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He stopped. He's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: writing that, man. You gotta come up with an alternate, uh, ending,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But uh I, I I
Speaker 1: felt like that I had to stop that before that
Speaker 1: came to pass, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Because it was it could have been an inevitable thing
Speaker 2: for sure, even if it was even if it wasn't
Speaker 2: necessarily like actual death, but a form of like something
Speaker 2: like damn, like I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like herpes or something that's good, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because if I happened to get herpes when
Speaker 1: I was in the field, I would not be here now,
Speaker 1: you know. I sure, because if I can't have my Dick,
Speaker 1: I can't have no no, no, So sorry, right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I just talk this is I feel like you've
Speaker 2: had one of the most And when we talk about longevity,
Speaker 2: when we talk about errors of your career, what year
Speaker 2: is this so far in terms of let's say album
Speaker 2: one to now, So.
Speaker 1: What do you mean what year?
Speaker 2: What year in your career are we in? I know,
Speaker 2: I know, like you know, if we go back to
Speaker 2: the sway days.
Speaker 1: And so for me for strange music is twenty five years. Okay,
Speaker 1: for Tech nine is forty years because nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying is when I started, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, this, that and the other not
Speaker 1: professionally bright like in hip hop period, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was forty years of my life and
Speaker 1: year forty that's crazy. Twenty five years for strange music.
Speaker 2: That's God's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because even before Strange, it was what was the.
Speaker 1: Was with Westside?
Speaker 2: No I'm thinking was it was like was Angelic was
Speaker 2: on Strange? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Angelic? What was Strange? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The common before the storm was midwest Side and you
Speaker 1: know then you know with midwest Side, I got signed
Speaker 1: with Quincy Jones, you know what I'm saying in ninety seven,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, uh, you know those
Speaker 1: records never came out though. Yeah, so my first record
Speaker 1: to come out, well major album to come out, was Angelic,
Speaker 1: but midwest Side was the first label in Kansas City
Speaker 1: with Diamond and Don Juan that put out the com
Speaker 1: before the Storm, The Worst, the Worst two k stuff
Speaker 1: like that and Celsius.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy to think that that's how long it's been, bro,
Speaker 2: because I remember first finding your shit, Like my cousin
Speaker 2: Austin put me onto your shit. Yeah, what was what
Speaker 2: was the song that they were working the radio off, Angelic.
Speaker 1: Angela, It's Alive.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's crazy too, man,
Speaker 2: because like you've survived so many different like waves of music,
Speaker 2: like yeah, and even just like your own shit, like
Speaker 2: I was. I think it was a twenty eighteen or
Speaker 2: nineteen was the first time I had ever seen you
Speaker 2: on stage without Chris Calico. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: and it And I know this sounds crazy because I'm
Speaker 2: you know, going all the way back to the Unholy
Speaker 2: Trinity with you, him and cut was crazy, crazy times.
Speaker 2: But the way that you were able to figure out
Speaker 2: a way to like you, I think you were it
Speaker 2: was the Gangster, the King and the clown. Listen. That
Speaker 2: tour was fucking insane.
Speaker 1: Though it makes me feel good, you know.
Speaker 2: It was so good. And like my wife is like
Speaker 2: not a Tech nine fan, she's not a hip hop family.
Speaker 2: She just went along, you know, and she's like, Yo,
Speaker 2: this was this is cool.
Speaker 1: But like you don't have to you don't have to
Speaker 1: know tech nize music to enjoy the music or the show,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: The live show for sure. Yeah yeah, but like, man,
Speaker 2: there's been so many different eras of like, you know,
Speaker 2: the live show. I mean, yeah, how do you feel
Speaker 2: like obviously you're fifty, you're uh, you're freshly married, you
Speaker 2: got a two year fifty What what am I? You're
Speaker 2: over fifty?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, well I don't want.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I don't give a fuck about that. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be fifty four this year.
Speaker 2: And no, remember, well how long how long do you
Speaker 2: plan on doing the touring thing?
Speaker 1: They still want to hear technico man, every everywhere. I
Speaker 1: just did seven shows out there down under Man and uh,
Speaker 1: the fans even in the US man, even in the
Speaker 1: states Man they are they're getting younger.
Speaker 2: Because how many years straight? Have you toured? Every single
Speaker 2: year for twenty five?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And uh, even me and the Rogue Dog Villains, our
Speaker 1: DVS was touring, you know what I'm saying. Not like
Speaker 1: trib didn't put together tours, but we did tours you know,
Speaker 1: in the area. You know what I mean, but uh uh,
Speaker 1: I feel like that the fans are not gonna let
Speaker 1: me stop. I mean, do they ask They don't. They
Speaker 1: don't ask Mick Jagger that you know, say, they don't ask.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, the rolling students are still know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They don't, they don't.
Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking like that. You just it's like
Speaker 2: so much a part of your lifestyle right to where
Speaker 2: like you damn near spent more time on the road
Speaker 2: than you have maybe in your own home at this
Speaker 2: in the last.
Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, man, I've been we've
Speaker 1: been doing less.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I've noticed that I went on tour with falling Reversals
Speaker 1: only like twenty two.
Speaker 2: Days, right, which is different for you because you're just
Speaker 2: like fifty eight, sixty seventy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we've been kind of dialing it back and just
Speaker 1: doing festivals. You know, I haven't I don't remember my
Speaker 1: last Tech nine tour. Maybe maybe you know.
Speaker 2: It's probably twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe maybe maybe you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But the fans are getting younger every show that I do. Now,
Speaker 1: I said, I got to know one thing first though,
Speaker 1: how many of you. That's your first Tech nine show.
Speaker 1: The whole fucking place go up. As three thousand people there,
Speaker 1: the whole people, the whole place goes up.
Speaker 2: I'm likely they'll be able to do that.
Speaker 1: So I come to the realization that, uh, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna let me stop now. Me and Travis talked about
Speaker 1: last year. We said five more years, and when we
Speaker 1: get to that five, if we still want to go,
Speaker 1: we will. So it's four now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we don't know. You know what I'm saying, We
Speaker 1: don't know. All I'm saying is that the RDV video
Speaker 1: ran up like crazy already. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's almost at two million, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And people still want to hear Tech nine. Man, they
Speaker 1: still calling for me. I'm about to go on another
Speaker 1: tour now and day after tomorrow with Hollywood and Dead
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna continue the Hollywood nine tour that
Speaker 1: the places we didn't hit on the first one, right,
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna go all the way over to
Speaker 1: Canada and give it to them as well, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's gonna be more young people
Speaker 1: that want to see Tech nine.
Speaker 2: Man, do you remember because when I say you're the
Speaker 2: greatest hip hop live before, in my opinion, you're my favorite.
Speaker 2: I've probably seen you in concert like fifty times at
Speaker 2: this point, but uh, I think you're the goat on stage.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when you really felt like you had
Speaker 2: dialed in that element of what you do? Because I
Speaker 2: remember the first time I ever saw you in concert
Speaker 2: was probably in eighth seven or eight. It was on
Speaker 2: the Bone cotton Mouth King Shit or was it? No?
Speaker 2: It was was it Bone Bone ICP cotton Mouth Kings
Speaker 2: three damn walka to her? Yes, So I saw you
Speaker 2: then and that was super early. But I think the
Speaker 2: first time I saw you like headlining some ship was
Speaker 2: probably like seven eight. Yeah, but but so much like
Speaker 2: there's so much to your live show and it's evolved
Speaker 2: over the years, But do you remember kind of like
Speaker 2: you gain fans just because they saw you and they
Speaker 2: were like, Yo, this is crazy. I gotta go to
Speaker 2: the music, Like when did you have that dialed in?
Speaker 2: Like all the way you feel like me?
Speaker 1: Cut Grant and Chris and Travis we would rent out
Speaker 1: a conservatory or something and we'll go over steps for
Speaker 1: Angelic you know what I'm saying. Before we went on tour,
Speaker 1: I knew back then, Bro, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that we was locked in and we was doing stuff
Speaker 1: that people wasn't doing on stage. I knew back then
Speaker 1: that us as a team in uniform, not just in
Speaker 1: play clothes, signifies togetherness. So that's saying like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: he's dressed like him, that means if I fuck with him,
Speaker 1: I gotta fuck with him. Him him him, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I learned that from soldiers, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I knew back then early
Speaker 1: on that we were locked in. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: who got this motherfucking household lot? If you got speak?
Speaker 1: You know the little dance we do, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I still do it to this day, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like, uh, I knew it at the beginning
Speaker 1: when we were doing it. The steps that is that
Speaker 1: we were doing something that we had never seen. Because
Speaker 1: I started dancing before hip hop.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was I was like like MC hammer style, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a big boy bring dancing poplock and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, All that so I brought that
Speaker 1: to Tech nine, you know what I mean, And throughout
Speaker 1: the years, if it's something we didn't rehearse at the
Speaker 1: Ballet Conservatory, if I started doing a step that was extra,
Speaker 1: they would join in. Or if Chris started doing a
Speaker 1: step that was extra, we do it over Cut said, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the B walk on this. I would
Speaker 1: join in, you know what I'm saying, to do it
Speaker 1: with him, you know. So we would add stuff throughout
Speaker 1: the years, you know what I mean. So it's it's
Speaker 1: just a magical thing. So now before okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about this, twenty twenty COVID hits correct. Chris Calico say,
Speaker 1: you know, we got a we got a jelly Roll
Speaker 1: tour on the horizon, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And jelly Roll was with Strange, Yeah, said he was.
Speaker 1: He had signed to our distribution.
Speaker 2: Was that around the time you guys did the Red
Speaker 2: Rocks and there was like the big I think Chris
Speaker 2: came out at Red Rocks.
Speaker 1: That was like that was like twenty nineteen, yeah, yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was like the last hurrah. Yeah, because Chris
Speaker 1: was talking about leaving then and then he came out
Speaker 1: like boom, and the fans like, holy yeah, he's staying.
Speaker 1: He's gonna Yeah, he said, he's gonna do some more
Speaker 1: years with us, you know what I'm saying. Because he
Speaker 1: was thinking about going on and doing his own label,
Speaker 1: this and the other, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: he came out of Red Rocks twenty nineteen. Yeah, boom boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom. It was a big thing, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty came, and then that tour got canceled, the
Speaker 1: Jelly Roll Tour with Take nine, you know, and before
Speaker 1: we went on at Chris Calico said, Yo, teg, I
Speaker 1: can't go for this price no more. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I gotta have more of I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: And I said, let me see what I can do.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know, I called in the Travis.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you can get him two more hunted,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be good. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: that I'll put him at a you know, a nice
Speaker 1: place you know, and travels like tech. Because the tour
Speaker 1: got canceled and now we were trying to go on
Speaker 1: tour after that, we're getting reductions. You know what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 2: People don't go down because they.
Speaker 1: Don't know if people are going to come. So that's
Speaker 1: what the promoters were using against us, like we don't
Speaker 1: know what you're going to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So paying somebody extra money when we're getting reduction would
Speaker 1: be like shooting, yeah, counter productive to shooting myself in
Speaker 1: the foot. So travel like at this point I would
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do this, but I would ask Chris if
Speaker 1: we can reduce his pay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to do that, right, No, he's
Speaker 1: not going to do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I had to call Chris and say that to him.
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't go there TECH and I'm like damn.
Speaker 1: I'm like okay. I was like, maybe this this just
Speaker 1: this last one. I'm trying to keep him held on.
Speaker 1: Maybe just this last one, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, man, I gotta you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: during COVID, you know you have to find way to
Speaker 1: take care of your family. He found ways, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And to let him see that he
Speaker 1: could do his own. So when he came to me
Speaker 1: and said, I want to leave, but I want to
Speaker 1: let the fans know that we're still connected and ain't
Speaker 1: bad blood or nothing, because it's not you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we created this live stream. We were
Speaker 1: doing live streams during.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are doing like the concert shit us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we couldn't tour yea, so we were we
Speaker 1: were doing live streams.
Speaker 2: We can.
Speaker 1: You know, we always survived strange music. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: a way, you know what I mean. So Chris said,
Speaker 1: let's do a farewell one for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and introduce my new label, Earhouse, And we
Speaker 1: did that, you know what I mean. So I'm happy
Speaker 1: doing this for Chris. But on the inside, I ain't
Speaker 1: never said this. On the inside, I'm like, damn IA
Speaker 1: need my brother man right up there, man, my guys,
Speaker 1: because I had to think back to where when I started,
Speaker 1: I was by myself, but not really when I when
Speaker 1: I got with Travis, I brought Grant and Cut and
Speaker 1: Chris came in last. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: For sure, I mean, your guys is dynamic on stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah we grab a bottle, yeah yeah, yeah no, but
Speaker 2: your guys dynamic on stage is it's historical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So with me remembering that, I came in with
Speaker 1: full motherfucker right, thank you. I was kind of leery
Speaker 1: about what I would do by myself. I ain't never
Speaker 1: said that because I'm a king, I can you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So in my in my heart, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do without my backup? But once
Speaker 1: I start rehearsing by myself, I'm like, Damn, I got
Speaker 1: all this wind myself. You know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 1: always done uh breathing exercises throughout my career that will
Speaker 1: allow me say a whole four bars without breathing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying for
Speaker 1: a whole four bars. So I had to remember that
Speaker 1: and when I started, when I did my first show
Speaker 1: by myself and I rocked it, that gave me the
Speaker 1: confidence because I was worried. I was worried.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know it. I didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody did. It's not the same without Chris. I
Speaker 1: know it's not the same, but it's fucking.
Speaker 2: The way you guys had those led walls and ship
Speaker 2: and the way that like the whole like you're doing
Speaker 2: the outfit changes. It also probably gave you time to
Speaker 2: breathe a little, you know, reset it did Chris.
Speaker 1: Chris being there gave Chris can cut them being there
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of breathing time.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't have that no more. So now I say,
Speaker 1: I'm getting my DMX on. You know what I'm saying, resting,
Speaker 1: May God rest the soul. I'm getting my Kendrick on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm getting my jay z on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I realized after a
Speaker 1: first couple of the first couple of shows that I
Speaker 1: got this ship. You know what I'm saying. And you
Speaker 1: know it would I would love for Chris to return,
Speaker 1: but I got.
Speaker 2: It, you know Yeah, I think I think before it's
Speaker 2: all said and done, man, the Unholy Trinity's got to
Speaker 2: get back together for one one more fucking Hurrah dog,
Speaker 2: even if it's one show, even if it's like a
Speaker 2: single show in casey or something like that.
Speaker 1: I will never say never, but I'm saying, maybe you'll
Speaker 1: get the duo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and Chris is definitely on the table.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, maybe you'll get the duo
Speaker 1: TRAVI and Cuddy ain't gonna never see how to eye.
Speaker 2: That's fair, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some things were said that I can't even fix because
Speaker 1: you know, me and some of the people that strained
Speaker 1: when we were doing COSM, we's for sure, you know,
Speaker 1: we had we had we had uh talks with Travis
Speaker 1: about Cuddy and he was like, man, He's like, so
Speaker 1: you think the fans want to hear Cuddy and everybody
Speaker 1: in the office like, yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And Travis was like, I ain't got no problem, man,
Speaker 1: I just I just don't feel I don't feel complete,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying with that part. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the misunderstanding they had, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I gotta I gotta feel that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And as men, I gotta feel.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't that it wasn't petty for trap
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. I don't think it's petty. I
Speaker 1: just think that it never got resolved. You know. It
Speaker 1: was something that brought Trav's wife into it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like once you cross certain you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know like.
Speaker 1: I've never seen when Kanye said this about jay Z's
Speaker 1: kids or whatever. But after you cross that, it's.
Speaker 2: Hard to walk back that. You get like, I'm fair
Speaker 2: game ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're talking about some family.
Speaker 2: It's like it's just hard to you know, it's.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you'll ever be able
Speaker 1: to come back to that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think luckily nobody else on the label I've done
Speaker 1: anything like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And you know, I.
Speaker 1: Remember I remember talking to Cuddy about it, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, we're talking about him. You know.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you say on a song, that's
Speaker 1: why I fucked Joe, bitch, you fat motherfucker, Like pup,
Speaker 1: you can't say that in the circle you're in. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When when you're breaking up, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the group.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's like I know, like, you know,
Speaker 1: our good friend just bad taste, you know, bad timing.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that we have a mutual friend
Speaker 2: who's a psycho or boy ritz, I know, like he
Speaker 2: had hit had his Uh it wasn't that bad, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't anything you couldn't come back from.
Speaker 1: No, because he's on Cosm right.
Speaker 2: And and like and like and like you know because
Speaker 2: like like again, it wasn't ever anything like and then
Speaker 2: he could always be like I was drunk man, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And if you've been on tour with Rich you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, this motherfucker's a psycho, right, Like.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, when people lose something. I'm not generalizing,
Speaker 1: but uh, some people, what I've learned over the years,
Speaker 1: they deflect and it's always the label's.
Speaker 2: Fault instead of looking in the mirror.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know what I mean, and that and
Speaker 1: that's what some people do. I don't remember none of
Speaker 1: the ship, you know what I mean? And trap, like,
Speaker 1: how don't you remember the ship that people have done
Speaker 1: to us? I'm like, I don't know, but I know
Speaker 1: that the music is first and foremost, you know, for sure,
Speaker 1: And we did Cosm and everybody came back, almost everybody,
Speaker 1: Chris Kellicole almost made it. But we're trying to get
Speaker 1: some We're trying to get some some back business done
Speaker 1: before we go forward.
Speaker 2: You know who else on the new album? Me?
Speaker 1: Because this album fifty eight sixteen Forrest is coming out
Speaker 1: this summer. When black first came to me, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you need to do an album.
Speaker 2: Is that your bar code number? What?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, you have your bar code number.
Speaker 1: That's six six triple a FO that's in that house.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's something else, you know to shit. When Blackwall first
Speaker 1: came to me, he said, man, people want to hear you.
Speaker 1: Do you without no collaborations? I said, that's boring as fuck.
Speaker 1: You know, my whole career, I'm always collabed. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Tech nine collab as its own
Speaker 2: artist page.
Speaker 1: I do, I do, I do. But you know, even
Speaker 1: in my on my albums, I got major collapse of course,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he telling me that
Speaker 1: people want to hear you, and I'm like, that's boring.
Speaker 1: I went to travel. I said, listen, black Wall, he
Speaker 1: just got out. He's been locked up fifteen years. He's
Speaker 1: the guy that gave me my Tech nine name in
Speaker 1: eighty eight. You know, And uh, I said, black Wall
Speaker 1: said that people want to hear me on the verses,
Speaker 1: that's it, and uh I said, I think that's boring
Speaker 1: as fuck, and Trav said, he's.
Speaker 2: Right, because you've never given given one of those.
Speaker 1: So my idea was to do an album called fifty
Speaker 1: eight sixteen Forests where I moved there when I was
Speaker 1: twelve to seven. So as I got into the writing
Speaker 1: of it, you know, me writing all the verses, maybe
Speaker 1: have you know a few hooks done by some major
Speaker 1: artists or something that's about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I got into a couple of songs and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. So it turns out to be an
Speaker 1: audio series with seventeen episodes of my life on fifty
Speaker 1: eight sixteen fours from age twelve to age seventeen, when
Speaker 1: I ran away from home to become Tech nine, you
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, on the quest to become Tech nine,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's in chronological order.
Speaker 1: Only one producer from Kansas City's name is Jaypeas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I've never done that one producer.
Speaker 1: He had all seventeen tracks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And this is the album where I don't have any features,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you know a lot
Speaker 1: of fans been asking for that for a long time.
Speaker 1: You know, Trav' already always been in my ear about it.
Speaker 1: But this is the moment when it made sense to me,
Speaker 1: because why how can I have anybody on these verses
Speaker 1: when I'm telling my story?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, if you really think about some of
Speaker 2: your I mean not maybe not like radio songs, but
Speaker 2: like your biggest songs for real, like that the fans love,
Speaker 2: they're mostly all you by yourself. If you think about
Speaker 2: like your technicians and ship you know, Einstein, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, eas even the word shit on kod is
Speaker 2: you by yourself? Like that's crazy, Like, yeah, it's probably
Speaker 2: my favorite tech song ever.
Speaker 1: Crazy, that's crazy. I never thought of it like that
Speaker 1: mental giant, mettal giant. Holy shit, now that one.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: That it's hard. We was tripping on that in Australia
Speaker 1: because we would sound check my, my, my, my sound guys.
Speaker 1: They would sound check with that song, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? For me and I'll be in there and
Speaker 1: you know, seven on the what possessed him that night
Speaker 1: to do that song? But holy ship, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's hip hop at its finest for sure,
Speaker 1: but all those songs being by myself. Like you said,
Speaker 1: this is the album where I tell my story with
Speaker 1: only a few major collaborations on the hooks.
Speaker 2: So there's some hooks stuff.
Speaker 1: There's some hook stuff, you know what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 1: here and there, But that's about it. But it's special, man,
Speaker 1: it's special and audio series with seventeen episodes about my life.
Speaker 2: Anybody's really done that.
Speaker 1: I've never heard it. Yeah, But the last song on
Speaker 1: the album, you know how strange music albums and strange music,
Speaker 1: there's a song after the strange music called JA six
Speaker 1: is about my lucky Jay sixes in ninety one, how
Speaker 1: I could afford to get some Georgian Jordan six black
Speaker 1: infrared color ways. You know what I'm saying. That song
Speaker 1: is after the tag, and it's a humongous one too,
Speaker 1: because it happens what happened was after I ran away,
Speaker 1: two years after that Jay six has occurred, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so after the tag, there's a
Speaker 1: song that happened that's some shit that happened two years
Speaker 1: after I ran away, and I put Jay six. I
Speaker 1: put it there like that in case I wanted to
Speaker 1: keep going, right, just in case I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going, you know what I'm saying with
Speaker 1: the story.
Speaker 2: But in case, yeah, I mean, because you could always
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, if you get inspired to do so,
Speaker 2: you could always do another album, a continuation of yeah.
Speaker 1: From me from becoming Technine. I can do it, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to bore people. But this one is special.
Speaker 1: Our DV just coming out, you know, a few days ago,
Speaker 1: while like last week, you know, let everybody know that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be some tech nine nineties kind of
Speaker 1: field beats and everything. You know what I'm saying, It's
Speaker 1: going all the way back to the beginning. JPZ did
Speaker 1: a stand up job with making the beats current but
Speaker 1: still with that feel of Rogue Dogs and Mitch Baide
Speaker 1: and all that kind of hcladiog stroll feel that Don
Speaker 1: Juan did early on. You know what I mean, what.
Speaker 2: You You've had the pleasure to change a lot of
Speaker 2: artist lives that aren't necessarily strange music affiliated. You've I
Speaker 2: think about some of the tours that I've been to
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean yeah, j Rock, Ko Glass of Malone.
Speaker 2: Malone was on that tour. Dax, Yeah, shout out to Dax,
Speaker 2: Freddy Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Look how well he's doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, but it's been it's been so dope.
Speaker 2: But I want to know because you know, Fragile was
Speaker 2: such a moment that had been. I would say that
Speaker 2: relationship because a lot of people who don't know, like
Speaker 2: Jay Rock had had to deal with strange you guys
Speaker 2: put out his his was that his first full length album.
Speaker 2: It was his first album because he had to do.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But that was like his first solo album that came out,
Speaker 2: follow Me Home, Follow Me Home. Yeah, And that was
Speaker 2: a partnership you guys had with TD. We see Kendrick's
Speaker 2: on the road with Rocky.
Speaker 1: Kendrick was on the road with Ray Jock. Uh, Jay Rock.
Speaker 1: I almost said Ray j Dude Kendricks on the road
Speaker 1: with Jay Rock because the guy that was out there
Speaker 1: before Jay Rock's Kim Folk MJ. He got killed in Reno,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. On that tour, Damn. You
Speaker 1: know we were we were performing at one of the
Speaker 1: venues out there and it was way after the venue,
Speaker 1: like three o'clock in the morning. We were sitting in
Speaker 1: the sitting in the in the alley way, waiting for
Speaker 1: the bus drivers. You know, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's back when I was still partying ship. I'm up
Speaker 1: partying with bitches everything, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: uh we heard shots three o'clock in the morning, and uh,
Speaker 1: m J. He you know, I guess he was on
Speaker 1: the phone with his wife because the bus is going crazy.
Speaker 1: He wants to go call us life. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Let.
Speaker 2: Me walk away, call my wife, make sure she does bullshit.
Speaker 1: I guess they said it was some like Cambodian crips
Speaker 1: across the street at the the liquor store early on.
Speaker 1: Just looking over there, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: everybody knows, you know, where we come from, the neighborhoods
Speaker 1: and all that kind of thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I guess MJ had on a red J Rock shirt.
Speaker 1: MJ is actually the crip. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I have on read J Rock shirt because he's who's
Speaker 1: on he's on tour with he's on the phone's wife.
Speaker 1: And then three of them walked up and they said
Speaker 1: that he said, uh, They said, y'all ready and then
Speaker 1: tried to score up with him. Cut out, Houn, come
Speaker 1: out the buzz like what you're trying to jump my nigga?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's when the guys pulled
Speaker 1: out and shot MJ all in the lower his lower park.
Speaker 1: He was still alive, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: talked to him on the phone a couple of days
Speaker 1: later U at the hospital. We had to leave him
Speaker 1: there in Reno at the hospital, you know, and and
Speaker 1: go on to South Salt Lake City. By the time
Speaker 1: we got to Salt Lake City, we got the call
Speaker 1: all the buck blood clots killed him, you know. So
Speaker 1: that's when they had to call on Kendrick to come
Speaker 1: and fill fill out, fill in for MJ. It was hard, man,
Speaker 1: it was hard. It was hard. And that's how I
Speaker 1: met Kendrick, and that's when he gave me the section
Speaker 1: eighty CD and that's when I put him on all
Speaker 1: sixes and seven so nobody knew who he was. And
Speaker 1: I love music with me and my family Marcus Jads
Speaker 1: and then we did the one you're talking about, Fragile
Speaker 1: after that when City just came.
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, which went platinum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it went platinum.
Speaker 2: That was was fragile before Hood Go Crazy. Rod was
Speaker 2: after Okay, okay, okay, m what was it something about?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like Kendrick was like the kind of
Speaker 2: artists because around that time I had him on my show,
Speaker 2: I think when I was in Vegas and like twenty
Speaker 2: ten he came and freest out on the show. And
Speaker 2: this was right before section eighty dropped. But like if
Speaker 2: you were around him, you kind of knew, like, this
Speaker 2: dude's alien.
Speaker 1: For reason, Yes he was. He was a quiet dude
Speaker 1: still that to this day. But you can tell that.
Speaker 1: You know, Jay Rock would play me black hippie shit
Speaker 1: on the bus. He was, you know, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: who is that? That's k Dot? This is when j
Speaker 1: was on the tour.
Speaker 2: It's k Dot.
Speaker 1: He's crazy. You know, I'm like, katok crazy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then I finally met him, and
Speaker 1: you know, on that tour we found out that he
Speaker 1: was a special.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He watched me every night on stage when I was performing.
Speaker 1: When you see his show now, man, you know, nothing
Speaker 1: resembles Tech nine. He got his own energy, his own ideas. Man,
Speaker 1: it is. It is massive. I watched that show in
Speaker 1: Paris on Hulu or whatever, you know, and I was
Speaker 1: just in awe. Man, you know what I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: he's become on stage, and I've been to multiple tours
Speaker 1: over the years to Kansas City, brings me on stage
Speaker 1: and tells the story of us and all that man
Speaker 1: and what he's turned into. Man is a mom monster live. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you guys saying that I'm
Speaker 1: the best show man that nigga, that nigga is. It's
Speaker 1: hard to beat.
Speaker 2: You see him on fucking Super Bowl two bows crazy.
Speaker 1: I was there. I was there.
Speaker 2: I bet you were a sad day for you. I
Speaker 2: was there only I know it was. I'm sure halftime was. Son.
Speaker 1: I was there. I was seeing it at Homie.
Speaker 2: At least he gave you a good show to take
Speaker 2: the take your mind off of the score.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm gonna tell you like this, Before he
Speaker 1: came on stage, the Eagles was.
Speaker 2: They was already clapping, y'all.
Speaker 1: They were, they were, they were, they were scoring so much.
Speaker 1: After a while, I just started laughing, like Travis was heated.
Speaker 1: He was just sitting there like this next to me
Speaker 1: was Travis right here, Me right here, my uncle Ike
Speaker 1: right there, my son next to him. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and you know other people that was with us.
Speaker 1: Travis was like he wasn't laughing at all. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm eating my food, just laughing like this is old.
Speaker 2: I got enough rings.
Speaker 1: It's never enough ring, No for sure, especially what it
Speaker 1: does for the city.
Speaker 2: No for sure. For sure.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, the morale and all that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know, the parade, we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: the official record like parade we wasn't gonna have no
Speaker 1: more because the last parade they start shooting.
Speaker 2: But you I mean I'm saying, I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's good too for for I mean, you have
Speaker 2: the anthem, so if they win, it's good for business.
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, Red Kingdom. I wrote that shit in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I put it out in twenty nineteen. Isold
Speaker 1: king Io did the beat. We lost a year, but
Speaker 1: it's still here after all these years.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: I took it off the set list though, you know
Speaker 1: they let me know it. And uh, when we lost
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I took it off the set list.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't came brag no more. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But uh, the fans in Australia let
Speaker 1: me know, like we want to hear Red Kingdom, So
Speaker 1: I had to do it a cappella.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to give them a little taste.
Speaker 1: They like they got Red Kingdom up on the signs
Speaker 1: and shit, I'm like, it's just a song. The people
Speaker 1: love who.
Speaker 2: Who was the one artist who you brought on the
Speaker 2: road that gave you a run for your money live
Speaker 2: where you were just like, oh okay you you showed
Speaker 2: up like.
Speaker 1: Shit, I always been the what it is? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm saying, Like someone who you brought
Speaker 2: on the road, who opened for you where you were
Speaker 2: just like yo, that there there.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't have love. I ain't never have my
Speaker 1: jay Z uh DMX moment because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember when DMX opened for Hope on
Speaker 2: the Hard Knock Live tour. I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how jay Z's.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever know they ain't taking nothing away from Ritz,
Speaker 1: They ain't taking nothing away from or mg K or nothing.
Speaker 1: But no, ain't nobody ever made me feel like holy shit,
Speaker 1: I got to bring my egga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I went on before Ronnie Radkey and following reverse on
Speaker 1: this last tour, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: saw all the ship that they do won't stay. I
Speaker 1: was like, God, damn, I gotta step my ship up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Ship like that recently, But
Speaker 1: uh na, man, I ain't never had that jay z
Speaker 1: DMX moment like, Oh, these niggas out here killing it.
Speaker 1: I encourage even the openers tear that shit down. Make
Speaker 1: it hard for me. Always tell my artists make it
Speaker 1: hard for me.
Speaker 2: What I think is like a real like sign that
Speaker 2: you are amazing at what you do is because I've
Speaker 2: seen you do festivals where it's not a crowd full
Speaker 2: of technicians and just cultivate the whole crowd. And that's
Speaker 2: the hardest thing to do because it's easy. And I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's easy, but it's one thing to perform
Speaker 2: in front of your people. Yeah, it's another thing to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this is a radio show.
Speaker 1: Yes, radio show. I've done those and killed.
Speaker 2: Them, and you know what I'm saying, It's just different though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, it's like I'm the one backstage hearing
Speaker 1: the crowd going so so right. I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that for people to have that, But it doesn't
Speaker 1: make me feel like, Okay, I got a fucking kill shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I already know I
Speaker 1: kill shit, you know what I mean? My spot is
Speaker 1: forever reserved.
Speaker 2: Like forty was great too, when you guys had that
Speaker 2: forty tour, that was great. Talk to me about there.
Speaker 2: There's the moment when you get shouted out by Lil
Speaker 2: Wayne when he's incarcerated. Around that time, there was this
Speaker 2: light that was flashed on what you guys are doing
Speaker 2: in case, yes, I remember there, Yeah, there was list.
Speaker 2: I remember it might have been Double Excel. Someone on
Speaker 2: YouTube went and showed the operation, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden it was like, well shit, you know, people are
Speaker 2: paying a lot more attention to what we got going on.
Speaker 2: Tell me how the Little Wayne relationship kind of like
Speaker 2: helped kind of change the trajectory of like opening you
Speaker 2: up to new fans, and how it's still intact to
Speaker 2: this day.
Speaker 1: Wayne speaking my name saying that he wanted to work
Speaker 1: with me in one hundred three thousand.
Speaker 2: Man, because you're on the Carter four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the Carter four. He said he was
Speaker 1: gonna make that happen. I didn't know he was going
Speaker 1: to put.
Speaker 2: Us both on the same song, which is Yeah, the
Speaker 2: introduwser my favorite part of that. It's crazy for sure.
Speaker 1: And the way I heard it, he said, you want
Speaker 1: to hear your song and he came to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he played it in Travis's office And
Speaker 1: when Andre came on after me, I was trying to
Speaker 1: be cool, but the inside of me is like, holy
Speaker 1: fucking ship. Here, I got a song where Andrey I
Speaker 1: was blown away. I was like, holy shit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't know he was gonna do that.
Speaker 1: So after that, I noticed that at the gathering of
Speaker 1: the Juggalos, whenever I'd say it, they boo. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They boo when I say little Waye.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's my family.
Speaker 2: We ain't go do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is for the love of hip hop. Respect
Speaker 1: that when I'm here, and they would clap, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, they respected that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because a lot of my fans didn't want
Speaker 1: the mainstream over here. They wanted there's a secret, and
Speaker 1: that's how fans do. They are like all fans are
Speaker 1: like they want they want the best kept secret. But
Speaker 1: something like Tech nine you can't keep contained, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I said a long time ago,
Speaker 1: tech won't go mainstream. The mainstream will go tech. And
Speaker 1: that's what gradually happened, you know what I mean. Wayne,
Speaker 1: was that first thing that happened when he said out
Speaker 1: of the blue, when I forgot who asked him? I
Speaker 1: forgot I was funk Master flex Or. I forgot who
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, asked him when I was in jail,
Speaker 1: who you want to I want to work with my
Speaker 1: main man, Tech nine and Andre two thousand. Everybody's calling me.
Speaker 1: I had to fight strange Land, meaning the fans, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because they wanted to keep that
Speaker 1: shit over there. You know what I'm saying. Lollipop was
Speaker 1: out at the time. I want to hear that shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I fucked with elite artists,
Speaker 1: and I adore elite artistry. So Wayne saying that, I
Speaker 1: went to Rikers and said thank you. Me and Traft
Speaker 1: you know, went out to the East Coast and said
Speaker 1: thank you, you know, and he said when I get
Speaker 1: out his on and it was as soon as he
Speaker 1: got out, he said, come on down here in Florida.
Speaker 1: We got a song. And they played it for me.
Speaker 1: Mike Bangor was the engineer. He played it, damn dud.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, get on there and chop
Speaker 1: that ship up. Wayne came in at twelve midnight, heard
Speaker 1: it the next day and say, yeah, now I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Now I'm ready. That's what I wanted. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, the hood responded,
Speaker 1: Tech killed it. Tech killed it? On all of surprise
Speaker 1: to see Tech on the carter Ford did it. It
Speaker 1: did so well with me for the culture for sure,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because when you think about
Speaker 1: strange music, did you kind of think subculture? Right? It's yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for the culture, that
Speaker 1: was a win for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was funny to watch it because it was
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden because you would always kind
Speaker 2: of hear people talking about Tech nine and they would,
Speaker 2: you know, because you had the face paint. How you
Speaker 2: deal with this your whole career?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Read here and like, I feel like the Wayne, because
Speaker 2: it always takes somebody when you are doing something underground
Speaker 2: or doing something out of the norm, out of the box,
Speaker 2: for pop culture to kind of embrace it. You kind
Speaker 2: of need like a Wayne to be like, nah, this
Speaker 2: is it, yeah, man. And then I feel like I
Speaker 2: feel like you had gone through me and you had
Speaker 2: a conversation. It might have been a backstage in Orlando,
Speaker 2: it might have been to Freddy Gibbs tour, and this
Speaker 2: was around the time breaking into colored houses to drive,
Speaker 2: but I remember you were a little frustrated with the
Speaker 2: lack of support from your own community.
Speaker 1: Of course I've been, I've been. I've been banging that
Speaker 1: my whole career. The message to the black man, all
Speaker 1: those songs. Many why you ain't called me? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying all that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like I've been talking about it because I always
Speaker 1: felt like technol because I am the king, the clown
Speaker 1: and the g I'm three dimensional, that it should be
Speaker 1: for everybody. And that's what started with the gangsters in
Speaker 1: the hood, you know what I'm saying, in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: then the metal heads and then the college kids and
Speaker 1: all that kind of shit, and then the Juggalos, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then you know rock and
Speaker 1: roll all that. You know, I felt like that it
Speaker 1: shouldn't exclude my people.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So usually when you do something and I don't like
Speaker 1: to generalize, I'm saying that, ain't all black folks, right,
Speaker 1: you know for sure painted face, red, spiked hair at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Nah bro Even now people are like like, you know,
Speaker 2: like but it became cool though, but now like there's
Speaker 2: this like you know, sub genre of like kind of
Speaker 2: punk rock you look at like Woozy has done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, playbrook CARDI said, he playbrock CARTI went on and
Speaker 1: said that I was the pioneer of what he does,
Speaker 1: uh image wise, And.
Speaker 2: You know I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2: Shout. I just saw his show and it was it
Speaker 2: was a lot yeah yah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 2: yeah yeah he said.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 1: You was just talking about how I've been in it
Speaker 1: for so long and still on the incline and all
Speaker 1: this kind of thing. Man. I always tell my fans
Speaker 1: that I'm Alu Card that's Dracula backwards. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't look like I'm about to be
Speaker 1: fifty four.
Speaker 2: Now you look better than ever, bro, I'm honest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you look like Yeah, I'm gonna be here. You look
Speaker 2: like better than you looked in like two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen because he.
Speaker 2: Was wearing all that drugs and all that liquor. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't eat nothing but sour dough bread now, man,
Speaker 1: only we bread on eat white bread. Don't you eat another
Speaker 1: ship because Sarado has health benefits. But that's here you
Speaker 1: need to hear. No there. But it's like certain things
Speaker 1: that I changed that my wife implemented, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And uh, I think that uh people
Speaker 1: always going to give the props to Tech nine for
Speaker 1: what we done early on independently and image wise that
Speaker 1: I got crucified for and I didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: You know I have. I have the worst sacrifice across
Speaker 1: my chest, really big. It's been there for years, you know.
Speaker 1: And I sacrificed myself for them to run right now.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think of like
Speaker 2: Denzel Curry had an album where his face is painted
Speaker 2: NBA young boy had a little wave where he painted
Speaker 2: his face on it on social media decades later, Yeah,
Speaker 2: decades later, and I just remember like you being chack
Speaker 2: at it or weekend it. Yeah for sure, weekend it,
Speaker 2: for sure. But you were put into this like box
Speaker 2: because I think around that time, like there was like
Speaker 2: you know, it was also kids were a lot more
Speaker 2: shallow with their taste back then.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think some some of the
Speaker 1: culture they think, I said, some of the culture. People
Speaker 1: in the culture, they think that when you do stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like paint your face. I have a Bishops
Speaker 1: robe on with red spiked haear that that's me saying
Speaker 1: that I don't have the skill to get people's attention,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So let me but the rest to get the attention. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they already write you off.
Speaker 1: They write me off. But the motherfuckers found out that
Speaker 1: I can do this shit butt naked with none of
Speaker 1: that shit, and fuck all you niggas up lyrically. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This is how I feel right
Speaker 1: and that's and that's what people know, you know, and
Speaker 1: know when they get on the song with me, they
Speaker 1: really got to go you know what I'm saying, not
Speaker 1: saying that you got to chop every time you You know,
Speaker 1: even though that's all people say me, they want to
Speaker 1: race me. I'm tired of racing motherfuckers. You know. They
Speaker 1: don't have to race me on songs. I can do
Speaker 1: hip hop shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We can.
Speaker 1: Me and Conway just did some shit for saying on
Speaker 1: my last album.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like, you know.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. But motherfuckers know now
Speaker 1: that I didn't need none of that ship. I don't
Speaker 1: need none of that ship. I don't need the mask.
Speaker 1: I don't need none of that ship to go toe
Speaker 1: to toe lyrically with anybody in the industry.
Speaker 2: You know, yo, talk to me. You had another insane,
Speaker 2: like out of nowhere moment when you guys do this
Speaker 2: record with the Rock. Okay, and now the Rock has
Speaker 2: always been a supporter of your music.
Speaker 1: Since since Riot Maker.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he always is posting working out to tech
Speaker 2: stuff and shut the gate. Yeah, and and so it
Speaker 2: was so cool. You had to have written that verse, though,
Speaker 2: Did you write the verse? No, the Rocks verse? No? No, no?
Speaker 2: Does it sound like it sounded like you're paying.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna tell you how I went. I said,
Speaker 1: I got some words that I think will be good.
Speaker 1: It's about drive, it's about power, it's about you know.
Speaker 1: It was doing still like that. He's like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to go fast. He said, I want to
Speaker 1: say it's about drive, it's about power. He was stay, hunger,
Speaker 1: we devouring the work. I wouldn't I wouldn't have said
Speaker 1: what he said. I put in the work, put in
Speaker 1: the hours and take what's hours. That's all him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like in some moment in my veins, I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: for sure, mother, that's him.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. So he put together if.
Speaker 1: You're that's me, just like, okay, you should put this
Speaker 1: right here. That's what the that's what the mass. I
Speaker 1: just helped him put the cadences together. You already had
Speaker 1: the words he did that ship man, that nigga know
Speaker 1: what he's doing.
Speaker 2: And that was you guys were in the studio together
Speaker 2: for that. No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: He's too busy for that. I did. I mean, I
Speaker 1: had him on his DM. I was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: think I found it because I met him out here.
Speaker 1: He wanted to meet me on his set of Ballers
Speaker 1: when he was out here with my people shining. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They always trying to get me
Speaker 1: to do movies, and I feel like I'm too weird
Speaker 1: to act. And I've done a couple of things weird.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I might do that.
Speaker 2: You got to get that Rob Zombie shit cracking, man,
Speaker 2: you got you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Like my horror brain and I let out out.
Speaker 1: They ain't never seen no ship like that. Jordan Peel
Speaker 1: all them up be like, what the fuck is wrong
Speaker 1: with nigga? But anyway, I met uh the Rock. Then
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna find something. Then uh face off came.
Speaker 1: I said, uh in his DM, I said, hey, I
Speaker 1: think I found it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: He sent me his number, sent me his email all that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was like, And then
Speaker 1: we start talking on the phone, and we start talking
Speaker 1: our way through it, and he said, this is what
Speaker 1: I want to say, and I just helped him, you know,
Speaker 1: put it in the right place. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying on that last part, You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's all him, dude, He killed it, killed it yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, and then and then the video.
Speaker 1: I knew he could do it because Molana was out
Speaker 1: right and yeah, look at it, make it everything happened.
Speaker 1: Look at the but the top of but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he could do this. He did the Malana City,
Speaker 1: He's he's Maui Mali can do this. So I knew
Speaker 1: he could do it. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: I said that, if you want to bring it to
Speaker 1: the massive, you know what I'm saying, then up there
Speaker 1: the booth, ascids whatever the he said. I knew he
Speaker 1: could do it.
Speaker 2: Man, you know what I'm saying, Yo, Can you talk
Speaker 2: to me because obviously, uh one of the most uh
Speaker 2: you know when we talk about West Coast goats, especially
Speaker 2: people who are underrated. As a guy, Mac Dre, who
Speaker 2: his life in Casey. Yes, you've obviously shouted him out
Speaker 2: a lot over the years and your music. What was
Speaker 2: your relationship like with mac Dre? Was it? Did you
Speaker 2: guys have a relationship when he was alive? I know
Speaker 2: he was in k C a lot.
Speaker 1: This is what my homie say. I was on big drugs.
Speaker 1: We was running a fucking strip club called Satin Dolls
Speaker 1: downtown van Brunt. You know what I'm saying. Uh, they
Speaker 1: said Mac Drake came in there and I was high,
Speaker 1: and I gave him his first thistles. I don't fucking know.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna claim that this man.
Speaker 1: Somebody says that my nigga said, nigga, you gave it
Speaker 1: to him, because I remember him coming in the club
Speaker 1: and I was like, he's like, man, yuh told me
Speaker 1: y'all was family. I'm like, he is, and that means
Speaker 1: you family too. Because he told him to me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, like this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember giving him no goddamn th I
Speaker 1: just knew I had sixty on me all the time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had, I had, I
Speaker 1: had a hook up. It was the flower girl in there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That she would front me
Speaker 1: the shit and not pay her later. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sometimes I had three of them and I'd
Speaker 1: share them with the girls. I was like the house dad, nigga,
Speaker 1: I go in there and get everybody high. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was. That was back then when
Speaker 1: I was putting it on my tongue, Like take it
Speaker 1: off my tongue, baby. You know that kind of crazy times.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Crazy times for me. So
Speaker 1: they said my homies like Nigga, he came in the
Speaker 1: club that night and you gave him like Nigga, this
Speaker 1: is what we do. And he's like for real. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't remember that sit at all. I
Speaker 1: don't remember that sit at all, but I remember meeting
Speaker 1: them in the club that sat and dolls, and you know,
Speaker 1: he came in shining, you know, and the thing that
Speaker 1: happened to him in case the negative thing. I was
Speaker 1: on tour and I was doing a Halloween show in
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City that day when I found out, Wow,
Speaker 1: I called young Mouth immediately. I said, man, did he
Speaker 1: have kids? He said, yeah, you fucking had kids.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, you know, And they said it was
Speaker 1: some street shit that happened over twenty thousand or something, right,
Speaker 1: he was getting for a show and they left.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, man.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And uh, I hate it for Kansas City because they
Speaker 1: love macdre. You would think he was from there. Man,
Speaker 1: When any of his goe stupid comes on or anything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not my job. They
Speaker 1: play everything right. You know, everybody moves like Dre in
Speaker 1: the city. You know what I'm saying. If you and
Speaker 1: E forty because forty with mister Flamboyant opened up the
Speaker 1: floodgates for the bay to come in to Kansas City,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. To the Midwest, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But macdre Man, you know that that's
Speaker 1: his town as well.
Speaker 2: For sure. You I remember I don't know shit, ten
Speaker 2: plus years ago us having like talks about like you'd
Speaker 2: worked with everybody. Obviously the one like person that was
Speaker 2: still escaping the the tech feature was always eminem Speed
Speaker 2: him comes out right, which was crazy because you brought
Speaker 2: him to like literally brought him to your world. You've
Speaker 2: worked with Surge, which I know was another one of
Speaker 2: those ones. Right, is there anybody left that is there
Speaker 2: anything new that you thought like, all right, well, I've
Speaker 2: conquered all these dragons, I've had am all my shit.
Speaker 2: I've worked with Lingree three thousand, you had Surged, Hanky
Speaker 2: and opening up an album.
Speaker 1: I mean it started the elite. That's started way back
Speaker 1: in the day, you know, saying with me and Ice Que. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on kimas Spice one and forty over and
Speaker 1: over and over. The elite shit that just started back
Speaker 1: in the day, you know, I'm saying. And then the
Speaker 1: new generation came, you know.
Speaker 2: So there's got to be some newer guy because you're
Speaker 2: a fan of this ship. So I know people don't know,
Speaker 2: like you'll like catch a flight to catch a concert
Speaker 2: just to go. Like people like, yo, I'm in Arizona
Speaker 2: right now. I'm here because I want to watch this concert.
Speaker 1: I saw Travis Scott down there. I saw Chris Brown
Speaker 1: down there, I saw her, I saw Daniel Caesar down
Speaker 1: and my wife will come down to Arizona to go
Speaker 1: to them goddamn show.
Speaker 2: But what what is the what's thes what's the latest?
Speaker 2: The latest artist? You're like, man, that this would just
Speaker 2: be special, Like I really would love it.
Speaker 1: I tried to get j Cole on my last record
Speaker 1: on a song called I Met Morph. I was trying
Speaker 1: to get him on that one, and we couldn't find
Speaker 1: a way to get a response, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that was one I wanted to cause, you know,
Speaker 1: he'd be, he'd be on motherfucker ship killing ship. I'm like,
Speaker 1: for sure he's come over, come over here and kill ship.
Speaker 1: Let's go, you know what I'm saying. And when did it?
Speaker 1: When did he get you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: always wanted to do that. I always wanted some and
Speaker 1: this is some old ship. But when I say old ship,
Speaker 1: I mean this is something I've always wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: Trent Reznor to do a track, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Of course I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just I just did that one with Ronnie Radkey
Speaker 1: falling of Reverse to Ronald song Man, and that turned
Speaker 1: into a tour with us, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And that that was a big one for me because
Speaker 1: you know, they killing ship, you know Ronnie. I was
Speaker 1: looking for Ronnie. The way I found Ronnie is when
Speaker 1: I was doing Bliss, I was looking for metal Choppers.
Speaker 1: I googled metal Choppers and he was at the top
Speaker 1: of the list. Then Kim Dracula right then it was
Speaker 1: like Suicide Boys after that and saying and uh then
Speaker 1: it was City Morgan Auto. But Ronnie was on the
Speaker 1: top of the list, so I hit him in his DM.
Speaker 1: I'm a damn type of motherfucker. You know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's how I got Duran Bnar own my ship everything. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: why not saying? But uh I hit him and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to work with you for the longest.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I sent him the song what I was gonna get
Speaker 1: him and Kim Dracula on it. Because Kim Dracula's from Australia.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's fucking crazy chopper. You know what I'm saying metal
Speaker 1: And uh, Ronnie said, I loved the song. Man, I
Speaker 1: just can't do it because I'm working on this huge album,
Speaker 1: but I want you to be on one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Kim Dracula still did it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I was happy about that one. J Cole is one.
Speaker 1: Trent Reznor is one. Brittany from Alabama shakes. I love
Speaker 1: what she can do, you know what I'm saying vocally?
Speaker 1: You know, I just love musicians, man. You know I
Speaker 1: got a song with Gary Clark Jr. You know, like
Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm so, I'm such a decorated m See. Man,
Speaker 1: that's what my next album is gonna be called. Its
Speaker 1: gonna be called decorated and I've done it, and I
Speaker 1: got a weed song with Boys the Men, Dude, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, called Buddha. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know. It's just went over people's heads
Speaker 1: on the Storm, you know. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think Gary Clark Jr. Is on that album as well.
Speaker 1: Marsha Ambroses Is on that album from a Flower Trees all.
Speaker 1: It's all over the spectrum, man. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like rock, new metal, metal, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: slip knot. It's I'm so decorated that I only have
Speaker 1: a few people that I have left. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Jay Z's one of them as well.
Speaker 2: It would be crazy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I already got Kendrick, already got Jay Rock. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I still haven't done that feature for
Speaker 1: j I D. He sent me.
Speaker 2: Man, It's like J I D. Would be crazy.
Speaker 1: How many sent it to me, like around my birthday,
Speaker 1: like November seventh, And then I went on a run
Speaker 1: right after that and I got sick three times from
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving all the way to the New Year. So I
Speaker 1: haven't been able to do it because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get about.
Speaker 2: To turn his album man if it's not already turned in.
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's crazy.
Speaker 1: Because I'm just now letting up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I gotta I gotta hit him and say, am
Speaker 1: I late? That was like almost five months ago? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I know he did like a little private listening for
Speaker 2: whatever this new project is, but maybe not. I mean
Speaker 2: there's no dat announced. As you know, there's always there's
Speaker 2: always time to get ship over finish line.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got sick three times, man, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: get in the studio with him like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he wanted the race, right, He's one of them.
Speaker 1: He wanted to race, like oh you want to raise
Speaker 1: Look here we go, you know, the day before my
Speaker 1: birthday and my birthday November eighties and the November seventh,
Speaker 1: and still haven't done it. Man. I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get that done for j I.
Speaker 2: D talk to me about like your guys' model. I
Speaker 2: just saw Travis just did an interview with King Court
Speaker 2: with the Whole Court podcast where he was kind of
Speaker 2: breaking down just kind of how things have changed since streaming,
Speaker 2: the streaming era, and how you know, obviously the lack
Speaker 2: of physical product in the marketplace. It's kind of you know,
Speaker 2: like you said, strangers always gonna find a way. You
Speaker 2: guys have always found a way to survive and evolve.
Speaker 2: But just the og like, when did you realize as
Speaker 2: a whether it was you or Travis or together, like, yo,
Speaker 2: we gotta have like multiple Skew was on tour because
Speaker 2: I remember, man, when you used to I mean, I
Speaker 2: remember the first time I went to one of your shows, bro,
Speaker 2: a solo show. I was absolutely floored by the merch section.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's all travels right there.
Speaker 2: And I mean we're talking about Jersey's license plates.
Speaker 1: That's back then. That's back then when I had to
Speaker 1: okay everything.
Speaker 2: Now, I was like, I'm like, and then the other
Speaker 2: thing too. You would have the dude who would walk
Speaker 2: around with the box of CDs.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we have we have three CD sellers.
Speaker 2: In the hitting the line. Yeah, hey, you guys want
Speaker 2: to buy the see and and COVID for sure. And
Speaker 2: I think back to like, you know, obviously, I would
Speaker 2: say probably before in terms of taking advantage of the
Speaker 2: merch thing, I would say ICP was before you, guys.
Speaker 2: But in terms of perfecting that model of like cultivating
Speaker 2: your fan base into like a real core core that
Speaker 2: like physically can support you with what you might even
Speaker 2: have to have the album out, like hey guys, we're
Speaker 2: gonna do merch drop. I remember the jerseys great that
Speaker 2: the red case jersey with the nine and good.
Speaker 1: But I think, I think, I think surviving for twenty
Speaker 1: five years is a blessing to have the core that
Speaker 1: we can still sell physical product to, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and and everything and merchandise. Our story is crazy, man,
Speaker 1: year after year, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: just that's just a blessing. We were able to keep
Speaker 1: all that, all those people with me evolving over the years,
Speaker 1: and people having something to draw from, Like your best
Speaker 1: album was Angelic, your best album was ever Ready. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Special Effects was the last good album.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. People say, I love that,
Speaker 2: bro crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So so you know they have something to draw from
Speaker 1: because we've been in it for twenty five years with
Speaker 1: strange music, you know what I mean. So if they
Speaker 1: didn't have so much to draw from, they would probably
Speaker 1: like really respect all the new I'm dropping, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But people have their favorites because they'll
Speaker 1: attach nostalgia to it.
Speaker 2: Yes, the time of their life.
Speaker 1: Yes, when this thing happened and Tech nine was there,
Speaker 1: kod O nine, that's when whoa he really hit that there?
Speaker 1: You know after that, he ain't had nothing good since.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bullshit, right, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: the fact that we've been able to keep all those
Speaker 1: people people's attention for these twenty five years, and we
Speaker 1: can call it the core, is a testament to great
Speaker 1: and good product. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't get on the Forbes list without
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that isn't just the music, right exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is everything that comes with
Speaker 1: the experience. It's the tour merchandise, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the video game placements, the TV placements and everything. You know,
Speaker 1: it counts, and uh, I'm just you know, that's why
Speaker 1: lately I've been talking to Trav about directed consumer.
Speaker 2: Which I think is honestly the next It's kind of
Speaker 2: like things have to be be full circle event. We're
Speaker 2: talking to him about it since as nine because think
Speaker 2: about it, there's a I don't know if you've heard
Speaker 2: of a something called even Yes. Yeah, So there's a
Speaker 2: lot of artists who are doing that, right, Like Dizzey
Speaker 2: Wright did an album on there. It was like at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like if you actually were
Speaker 2: to calculate even if you release an album for the
Speaker 2: first three months directed consumer.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, you know, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, Like, hey, let's let's get some money first.
Speaker 2: Because you got to look at I mean, thirty nine
Speaker 2: I think thirty nine hundred dollars is about a million streams.
Speaker 2: So if you do a million streams, it's like between
Speaker 2: like thirty seven and like four thousand dollars essentially. So
Speaker 2: when you start breaking down like some of the numbers,
Speaker 2: you're like, damn, Like we put so much into this shit,
Speaker 2: right and the streaming shit is really fucked I mean
Speaker 2: like it's it's really fucked up.
Speaker 1: Like you got to get money off of you know,
Speaker 1: the music is.
Speaker 2: We have no it's a it's a vessel to get
Speaker 2: to get other things, the other's things. Fuck that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck that man, you know what I'm saying, Especially
Speaker 1: for fifty eight sixteen Forest a personal album like that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that sit away for free,
Speaker 1: my nigga.
Speaker 2: Also, like your fans would rather buy a piece of
Speaker 2: vinyl from you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's coming to like hey sixteen, Hey, look, the
Speaker 1: first people who are going to hear this album are
Speaker 1: gonna get it on CD and vinyl. Yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening. That's crazy that your mind's thinking that because
Speaker 1: Travis was on that already.
Speaker 2: Like you guys are going to get this piece of art.
Speaker 1: Wait till the pre order drop, you gonna see.
Speaker 2: It, and then eventually you'll be able to put it
Speaker 2: up on you know, and you can watch the music
Speaker 2: videos on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easier said than done when you were you know,
Speaker 1: connected to you know, a distribution and uses connected to
Speaker 1: you know, it's Virgin.
Speaker 2: Now right right, and then they're like, well, it's a
Speaker 2: little bit harder to be like, well, we're gonna just
Speaker 2: crack this, crack our fans real quick and make sure
Speaker 2: they get first access. Well, you know, the business the
Speaker 2: business model of Virgin is like no, no, no, not.
Speaker 1: Their percentages are included in that right, So it's like, sorry,
Speaker 1: I just snored it. Their percentages are included and directed consumer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like it seems like
Speaker 1: that everybody else would want to make more money, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It would seem too as if there's an artist that
Speaker 2: is capable of fucking up the.
Speaker 1: The game, fucking the industry again, it'd be you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember that. You remember that thing we had in
Speaker 1: two uh FTI. It was like fun the industry.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We did the commercial like download my album Absolute Power
Speaker 1: for free and if you like it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, support, We got that shit away for free,
Speaker 1: my nig and it worked. So here we are again.
Speaker 1: Streaming is killing the industry. We're still afloat, by the
Speaker 1: grace of God. Now's the time. I think it's time
Speaker 1: to fuck the industry again. Man said and done. Though,
Speaker 1: I know we got a lot of susts that are connected.
Speaker 2: And have you been paying attention to the Russell?
Speaker 1: Of course he's on my last album. The Russell is
Speaker 1: like Russell and Stunnermento two. Shout to Russell, man, you
Speaker 1: know they moving.
Speaker 2: He's also got he's got this out. He thinks outside
Speaker 2: the box of everything and it's working for him. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, if you want to come see me,
Speaker 2: my show starts at two p m. Because I don't
Speaker 2: like being outside of night and you get to put
Speaker 2: a bit in on your ticket.
Speaker 1: He's on He's on COSM. We got a song called
Speaker 1: sour though. Okay, you know, but it's why while you
Speaker 1: sal while you so. I think he's the sneaker is.
Speaker 2: On the hook. He's done a good job of showing
Speaker 2: artists like, hey, like, you don't have to play by
Speaker 2: the rules you think you have to play by.
Speaker 1: L Russell and Russ you know the same guy? Uh
Speaker 1: who did it? Who did it? Glorilla did it? You know,
Speaker 1: directing Consumer Lately. I think gn X was like that
Speaker 1: with Kendrick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they man that just from a hip hop fan perspective,
Speaker 2: you had to have loved the last year of hip hop.
Speaker 2: I mean because the Kendrick Drake beef brought out. I mean,
Speaker 2: however you feel about the results, I mean, we know
Speaker 2: who won, but uh, just it was just good to
Speaker 2: see like people dissecting bars, like.
Speaker 1: Really good on that and in that aspect, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying the hip hop energy that was brought
Speaker 1: forth by that beef. What I worry about is the
Speaker 1: street element of it all. And that's why I put
Speaker 1: out no popcorn. I don't have no popcorn emojis because
Speaker 1: I know we're all gang members, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And Uh, you can't control the.
Speaker 2: Entourage, you can't control the Philly, the family.
Speaker 1: The fanaticis yeah, you know what I'm saying. And when
Speaker 1: Drake's house got shot at, you know what I'm here
Speaker 1: comes That's what I didn't want. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't I want to. I wanted to. I want
Speaker 1: to keep it in the spirit of hip hop. Would
Speaker 1: have done what it did, uh for it positively. But
Speaker 1: we have to keep our eye on the street element
Speaker 1: because it comes with us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So so far, so good, so far, so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was talking to day Free the other day with
Speaker 1: a og muggs. He had him on three Way, and
Speaker 1: I said, I think y'all gonna be really good in Toronto, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's like, oh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: they come out in Toronto, man, is wonderful. I think
Speaker 1: I think y'all gonna be good, and I would expect
Speaker 1: Drake to.
Speaker 2: Be okay in two stadium shows. Yeah, I know, two
Speaker 2: stadium shows in Toronto.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they think they're gonna be good. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I think Drake is in LA enough to be like.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be good here? Yeah, man, he better be man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, with the
Speaker 1: street element, man, you just never they take it beyond.
Speaker 1: We've always took it beyond. Because this is my theory
Speaker 1: on it. If you say something negative about technolo on
Speaker 1: the record, that means you're now in the spirit of
Speaker 1: hip hop. I get it. But that means you're trying
Speaker 1: to take food out of my family's mouth, my nigga.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a problem. You know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been in battles and I haven't lost. I've never lost,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, and that it has
Speaker 1: never gotten so personal that you couldn't shooting at each
Speaker 1: other or fighting in the club waiting about to have
Speaker 1: that shit in casey, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,
Speaker 1: But with that street element. You're trying to take food
Speaker 1: and money away from me by turning people away from me. Nigga,
Speaker 1: I got something for you. That's what I don't want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's like you said that you can't
Speaker 2: control somebody who's young, who's affiliated, who wants to prove
Speaker 2: himself right right right, that you aren't even you might
Speaker 2: not even we didn't even send it.
Speaker 1: We didn't even send it.
Speaker 2: We didn't even know this was gonna happen. And then
Speaker 2: there's also insane fans like people.
Speaker 1: Might say Tech nine's name, I would never send it.
Speaker 1: They send it to themselves because I have followers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you're you're you're inviting certain energy to your yea,
Speaker 2: to your So.
Speaker 1: The thing when it happened with ICP, that's me and
Speaker 1: Joe Bruce talked about.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, yeah, he talked about it.
Speaker 1: We don't want to we don't want to turn this
Speaker 1: into something. We just had a we we had a
Speaker 1: really good two hour talk when the ship was happening,
Speaker 1: when I was getting death threats from a few juggalos,
Speaker 1: we had like a two hour talk and it was
Speaker 1: like a history lesson from Tech nine from Kansas City
Speaker 1: what started the killer clown and all this kind of
Speaker 1: thing because they was under the impressing that I got
Speaker 1: it from them, and I'm like, I was the clown
Speaker 1: in ninety four, you know what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 1: have to tell them all that, and uh, but they
Speaker 1: did show us a lot of shit on that tour No.
Speaker 1: Three that we had to up our game and merch
Speaker 1: and everything, and their stage show was fucking I just
Speaker 1: saw them performing the other day and it's still crazy
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have this energy about thinking about them shooting
Speaker 2: two leaders of FA go into the crowd.
Speaker 1: Oh they're still doing that. They're still doing that. They're
Speaker 1: still doing that. And it's like me and Joe Bruce
Speaker 1: talked about that, about the history and what I learned,
Speaker 1: and you know, we got to clear about the gang element.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to bleed into this, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because whether they know it or not,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, The Clowns, the Juggalos are
Speaker 1: not a gang, but people look at them as a gang,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's all over the world too. Sure,
Speaker 1: it's in Australia, it's in the UK, Juggalos are everywhere
Speaker 1: and they come show love my nigga and like they
Speaker 1: always have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go to a tech show, you're gonna
Speaker 2: se Juggles of course, of course, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people have strange and hatchet Man tattooed yes sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: So we talked about the gang element that I didn't
Speaker 1: want to bleed over into that. And they came to
Speaker 1: my show in Detroit and they introduced me and everything
Speaker 1: and it was good, you know what I mean. After
Speaker 1: after they did your show, I did a song what
Speaker 1: was it called? I forgot what it was called. And I
Speaker 1: was talking telling people that I'm not upset and what
Speaker 1: they were saying on the show. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they didn't say nothing wrong, but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's like the face paint thing was unclear,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And they didn't know that.
Speaker 1: When I was on that tour, I only had my
Speaker 1: guy doing words across my head, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But before that, I had Brian Bezel Dennis in ninety
Speaker 1: four doing my full skull face, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't know nothing about dark loadus and
Speaker 1: none of that shit I'm talking about when I did
Speaker 1: when I did the show and Lawrence Kansas with the
Speaker 1: luminous paint on my face and the black cross across
Speaker 1: my face. You know what I'm saying, lights cut off
Speaker 1: you could see just across on my face. I didn't
Speaker 1: know nothing about dark Lotus back then. That's what they did.
Speaker 1: And it's like those were in That was in the
Speaker 1: early nineties, you know what I mean, and shit like that.
Speaker 1: So we had to talk about all that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because we had similarities when it come
Speaker 1: to face paint and all that kind of shit. And
Speaker 1: I was trying to say that I've never been a bier.
Speaker 1: I've always been an innovator. I've always you know, saw
Speaker 1: things that y'all did and purposely didn't want to try
Speaker 1: to mimic it, right because that's their thing. I would
Speaker 1: never get up there and have clowns come out and
Speaker 1: throw feyo or nothing, you know what I'm saying. Even
Speaker 1: though I'm the killer clown, I do mine in a
Speaker 1: different way, you know what I mean. So I talked
Speaker 1: about that gang element and we got that shit straight early.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and then it didn't it
Speaker 1: didn't keep going.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, I feel like like trying to split
Speaker 2: up your guys's fans, is that insane because there are
Speaker 2: a lot of the same people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be wild too, because you've like we're talking
Speaker 2: about twenty five years of strange music at this point
Speaker 2: in time. Like there's people probably with Tech nine tattoos
Speaker 2: that are like fucking teachers, Dennis. Yeah, Like there's like
Speaker 2: technicians that are like probably in high places that you
Speaker 2: would even do unless they took their shirt off.
Speaker 1: Man, they approached me and people that I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna come up with me and say anything about
Speaker 1: techno tuned in for twenty years, I'm like, holy shit, right,
Speaker 1: Tech nine always felt like fight club, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like you go into the restaurant and all
Speaker 1: the people with all the cooks, all the servers, they
Speaker 1: gnawed at you, you know what I'm saying. But all
Speaker 1: the rich people, you know, they don't know what the
Speaker 1: is going on until at the end when I'm taking
Speaker 1: pictures with everybody, like who are you again? You know,
Speaker 1: it's fight club thing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, yo talk about obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: for people who don't know, Save Me was a record
Speaker 2: that came out under Strange Music's distro. Shout to our
Speaker 2: brother Jelly Roll, who is one of the biggest stars
Speaker 2: on the planet these days. You know, he's had a
Speaker 2: crazy journey through musical You know, I think back to
Speaker 2: damn like him opening up FORCP on tour. I mean,
Speaker 2: he really was an actual underground rap like rappers, like really,
Speaker 2: you know, it's the human talking about subculture like he
Speaker 2: came from that kind of like yes, that subculture of
Speaker 2: like Ritz and Wolf and Haystack, and he was he
Speaker 2: was really in the streets and for sure, but what
Speaker 2: what what what I mean? Obviously you guys also have
Speaker 2: a platinum record together at this point, we do a creature.
Speaker 2: Creature is platinum? Yeah? How cool has it been? Just
Speaker 2: as somebody who knows Jelly and and and it's obviously
Speaker 2: broken bread with him.
Speaker 1: But just it couldn't happen to a better person. It
Speaker 1: couldn't happened to a better person. And he's so thankful
Speaker 1: it couldn't happen to a better person. He's always been
Speaker 1: stand up cat you know what I mean, him and
Speaker 1: Travis going back and forth because he didn't want to
Speaker 1: release save Me, you know, to his fans, because he
Speaker 1: thought that they would be making fun of him because
Speaker 1: he's singing. I'm like, dude, your singing voice like we
Speaker 1: did Easier for you, ef you man, I'm like, when
Speaker 1: he sang on that easy up for you, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: your singing voice is crazy, though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then save Me.
Speaker 2: Took over. It's just one of those beautiful songs ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Eminem just reused it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: In fact, Eminem sampled the song that was like five
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so crazy man, But it couldn't happen to a
Speaker 1: better human being.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's dope to just see. Like I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's why I try to tell people. I'm like, if
Speaker 2: you knew Jelly, because I would always tell Jelly the
Speaker 2: same shit. I'd be like, brother, Like as soon as
Speaker 2: people just like get to anybody who knows Jelly, when
Speaker 2: back then, it would just take people to meet him
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, y'all love this guy. I might
Speaker 2: not know him, but I just love this fucking guy,
Speaker 2: and it was almost like the world went through that
Speaker 2: experience himself.
Speaker 1: He don't have to put on a mask or anything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't mean like a
Speaker 1: mask to put on them somebody, like a fake persona.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because my mask was really
Speaker 1: going on inside. You know what I'm saying. But he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to put on a fake persona to be
Speaker 1: jelly roll. He's jelly roll everywhere, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And people love that authenticity, authenticity, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: him and until he's ready to say bucket.
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, you mentioned earlier. Certain fans will
Speaker 2: like point some of your older albums. If you in
Speaker 2: your estimation, let's take the new album coming out out
Speaker 2: of the equation, what would you what would you say
Speaker 2: is your best album? I'm sure it changes for you
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: They are all my babies, man, tell them this all
Speaker 1: the time. They are all my babies, from Angelic to
Speaker 1: Absolute Power to the vintage Tech too. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Ever ready to all sixes and sevens to
Speaker 1: I got so many, man, It's like I'm on album
Speaker 1: like twenty five or twenty six right now.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 1: I think ever Ready was the turning point. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, we was out here, Bias One
Speaker 1: was giving me beats and we were all, that's Richie
Speaker 1: Abbit over there. You know what I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at yeah out here. I took so many turns.
Speaker 1: You know what. I realized that y'all gave me a
Speaker 1: Jay Dilla CD back then that I don't I remember
Speaker 1: seeing that. I never really got into it. And then
Speaker 1: years later I realized that I dropped that ball I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. We was doing ever Ready. They was giving
Speaker 1: me you.
Speaker 2: Had his Diller Beat CD full of them.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, And I'm like, you know, buys One, like
Speaker 1: you need to check out this dealer guy. I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Caribou's on ever Ready right.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, care Blue come Gangs come Gangster, right Baker.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The rain, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the turning point when we got with When we got
Speaker 1: with Fontana, that turned into Ingrows that we're with now.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Uh, that was a turning point.
Speaker 1: Ever Ready, that's a big one. Rick Rock is on
Speaker 1: there you know what I'm saying with my wife, my bitch,
Speaker 1: my girl and no can do you know? Rick Rock
Speaker 1: just came through and just dropped some barrier shit on us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like for real, for real, man,
Speaker 1: ever Ready was the turning point for Tech nine to
Speaker 1: get really really massive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like Everready has, especially if you like,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go to one of your shows,
Speaker 2: it's like there's like there's certain songs I've noticed you
Speaker 2: like move in and out of the set list, like
Speaker 2: like like, yeah, it was one of my favorite songs,
Speaker 2: but I haven't heard like you do, Like yeah for
Speaker 2: some I have years, but like that album has got
Speaker 2: like they ain't going nowhere in the set list, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, Man, ever Ready, I would say every Ready
Speaker 1: as the turning point. It's not my I can't say
Speaker 1: it's my best album.
Speaker 2: What do you think is your best? Though?
Speaker 1: I don't think I think they're all the best. My nigga,
Speaker 1: Have you heard Frank Hellic Angelic come on?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: For sure Angelic Tormented from Tormented to the song with
Speaker 1: Roger Trappman at the end. You know what I'm saying, Twisted,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like angelic is you
Speaker 1: don't skip it. You know what I'm saying, you can't
Speaker 1: skip it. Absolute power industry is punks to whatever. This
Speaker 1: is me or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Do
Speaker 1: you remember, Uh No, that's not that's ever ready, this
Speaker 1: is me.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Do you remember you're recording stamina in the
Speaker 2: in the studio.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: You want to hear this story.
Speaker 1: So I've always had stamina in my mind. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to shoot, I want to
Speaker 1: wrap to a gun. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: me and don Wan's in his basement and he sets
Speaker 1: the m p C three thousand or yea to this swing.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like the way you make me feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson stamina. I'll be damn if I ever be
Speaker 1: took away by the demons. I'll never be what the
Speaker 1: weather win. That was the rhythm I come with the
Speaker 1: heater cleverly Nigga went out and will never be so
Speaker 1: killer Flow Zilla Gorilla and Flow was a fella meee,
Speaker 1: I'll be in the line Hella doing time for the
Speaker 1: Tech nine is so he said, you got to play
Speaker 1: it because you know what, I'm like, pop up up.
Speaker 1: I did it. So I told the one I got
Speaker 1: on the I got on the mic. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: now speed it up. Stemina Stamina. I said, keep going, Stamena.
Speaker 1: And when he got into the first perfect pitch, I
Speaker 1: was like, Stemina, I'll be done. Ever be took away
Speaker 1: by the demons that never be what. The weather went,
Speaker 1: hythm come with the heat cover leaue nigga noo, the
Speaker 1: one ever be so killer. If I was a fell
Speaker 1: I began to lie doing time for the now you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's like, what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did that Ship of the Road Dogs. We had
Speaker 1: this album. We had this song I'll call Let's get
Speaker 1: fucked Up. It's fucking the town up. So def Jammer
Speaker 1: came to Kansas City at this place called it wasn't
Speaker 1: called uh this name at the time, this club. I
Speaker 1: forgot what it is, you know, since down there on
Speaker 1: the East side where the Essays are, and they had
Speaker 1: they had this thing that was like a not a
Speaker 1: talent show, but a industry party where people will be showcasing,
Speaker 1: saying a showcasing. And me and Roddargs went down there.
Speaker 1: I remember, I just came out here from QD three
Speaker 1: and I did a photo shooting. I had that ship on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had my special boots on,
Speaker 1: my Kenneth Cold boots on, and all them niggas was
Speaker 1: dressed in their bloodshit. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: came out there and I started out and I Chris
Speaker 1: Callico said, he was in the crowd. It was Boulevard Knights.
Speaker 1: Now this's the club. That's what I just thought about it.
Speaker 1: Boulevard Knights called that. Now it's called something that then.
Speaker 1: Back then something was back then. I did that ship,
Speaker 1: Chris Callico said. When I was in that crowd, man,
Speaker 1: when you first did Stamina and that whole place went up.
Speaker 1: When I did it first live, when I said Tech
Speaker 1: nine and the whole place stood up, I just fell
Speaker 1: out laughing.
Speaker 2: Did you always do the head cock? Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yes, because you have certain songs, you have, you
Speaker 2: have your like. I wouldn't necessarily choreography, but you have
Speaker 2: your like, your moves, you record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had don Wan put the cock click clack,
Speaker 1: stamming up. You know what I'm saying that Tech nine,
Speaker 1: you know, I knew exactly how I was gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I had it in my head and uh, next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I did it at this place called Maniacs
Speaker 1: and Independence Man and it fucked everybody up. I think
Speaker 1: Twister was there or something like that, and fuck everybody up.
Speaker 1: And I was doing I was doing that Einstein and
Speaker 1: let's get fucked up with the planet Rock with the
Speaker 1: rogue Dogs, you know what I'm saying. And Uh, I
Speaker 1: just knew I had some special with stamina, so I
Speaker 1: left it back there in the nineties. Now, recently, I
Speaker 1: did a song called RDV on my new album fifty
Speaker 1: A sixteen fours. We just put out videos out the
Speaker 1: videos out, so I thought, at the end of the song,
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about giving a salute to some of
Speaker 1: the rogue Dog villains that were not with us anymore
Speaker 1: and the ones that are still here, I thought I'd
Speaker 1: give a salute to my soldiers. I thought it was
Speaker 1: worthy of medalling back that, I mean, dialing up that
Speaker 1: stamming a style and yelling out all the names. And
Speaker 1: it's effective. Still I still I did it again. This
Speaker 1: time me and Bengineer did it and we didn't have
Speaker 1: to use the MPC three thousand. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, Ben, let me going there on a metronome
Speaker 1: and do that shit. Sippy Bigs are a picture star,
Speaker 1: demmit star, Williama? Send this League one John John, Michael
Speaker 1: werber TONI D, Tony Kennedy, Doctor Bob, Marty, Duken, Fly Mac.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: I'm like, just on those names, put the put that
Speaker 1: AK forty seven sound, you know what I'm saying, or
Speaker 1: the sk sound on top of it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just as effective as it was in
Speaker 1: the nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy because it's like one of those moments
Speaker 2: in your live show that like it doesn't take up
Speaker 2: a lot of space, but it's so like like again,
Speaker 2: if you don't know Tech nine and you go and
Speaker 2: see you see do you do that? You're like, did
Speaker 2: this motherfucker?
Speaker 1: Just yeah?
Speaker 2: Wrap over a machine gun.
Speaker 1: For a long time, I was doing it at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Now I've been doing it at the end a lot lately.
Speaker 1: You know, at the end of my show, you know, boom.
Speaker 1: But when I did the show with when I did
Speaker 1: this tour with Falling in Reverse and Blackveilt Brides and
Speaker 1: all the other guys that are on the tour, Dance,
Speaker 1: Gavin Dance. I felt like this was a new crowd,
Speaker 1: so I put it at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Right and let them just to just to be like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: you pay attention.
Speaker 1: I had. I took it all the way back to
Speaker 1: O two when I was on the ICP tour with
Speaker 1: the high top boxing shoes, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and all that kind of shit. I brought that back
Speaker 1: with the scrubs and uh, I had stamina at the
Speaker 1: beginning right into industry as punks like I used to do,
Speaker 1: and it fucked them up. And I had my band
Speaker 1: with me playing that shit. Yo.
Speaker 2: You you mentioned your album number twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. There's been a trend going on
Speaker 2: in music recently where a lot of people's catalogs are
Speaker 2: getting bought. Oh yeah, have you and Trav ever considered
Speaker 2: listening to those convos?
Speaker 1: No, not now, because when it comes time to sell,
Speaker 1: we want to have something in the selle. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When we if we ever sell strange music, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We've we've done a deal
Speaker 1: with the.
Speaker 2: Streaming side, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But other than that, all the pub listening, everything, all hours,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, other than that, man, no, man,
Speaker 1: we just steady building.
Speaker 2: What was the catalyst that implemented? Because I always talk
Speaker 2: about this on the show with certain artists, I bring
Speaker 2: up your guys's the tour regimen is pretty wild, but
Speaker 2: specifically the rules. Yes, you guys will find people, Yes
Speaker 2: they break the rules. It's it's it's very like it's
Speaker 2: a professional setting. But it wasn't always that way. What
Speaker 2: what happened was it was it? What was the thing
Speaker 2: that kind of was the turning point where you said, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe it was a Travis thing, but hey, we're not
Speaker 2: fucking around here anymore. It's too much to lose.
Speaker 1: This is the rules with any rule system, the fuck
Speaker 1: ups have to happen first.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if MGK is having food fights at you know,
Speaker 1: saying the buffet spot, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys had MGK during his wild really literally
Speaker 2: like let me.
Speaker 1: Just fuck up a hotel room. Yeah, it's real. It
Speaker 1: was real for sure. I'm talking about Golden Corral. They
Speaker 1: kicked us out, we were banned from all golden corrals
Speaker 1: around the Midwest.
Speaker 2: Crazy because so was an MGK that started the rule book.
Speaker 2: Was he the inspiration?
Speaker 1: He got a lot in the rule book? The rule
Speaker 1: book started before him.
Speaker 2: Okay, but but there's like you can point to the
Speaker 2: rules now and be like, don't.
Speaker 1: Climb and trust, don't don't don't do this, don't throw food,
Speaker 1: don't fucking tear up, don't fucking paint the motherfucking venue walls.
Speaker 1: It's all mg K, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: everything that Me and Cut did not Chris Calico, because
Speaker 1: he's always been the same, right, everything that Me and
Speaker 1: Cut did, you know, like fucking fat bitches and ship
Speaker 1: and then they sit on the toilet and break the
Speaker 1: toilet and all the water goes everywhere and floods all
Speaker 1: the fucking you know what I'm saying, all that ship,
Speaker 1: and we got to pay for all this and all
Speaker 1: that ship. It don't have don't fuck fat bitches. In
Speaker 1: the then rule book, it's just saying, be careful what
Speaker 1: you do in the rooms, because we have to pay
Speaker 1: for everything to mess up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But all the ship that we did over the years,
Speaker 1: you know, don't have sex in the bathroom on the
Speaker 1: bus because you're gonna break the sink. You know, stuff
Speaker 1: that happened, you know what I'm saying. So with any
Speaker 1: rule system, we had to do all that fucking up
Speaker 1: to get all that in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember when Dizzey Wright was on tour
Speaker 2: with you guys meet and him would be talking and
Speaker 2: he'd be like, I'm just getting fine every day, man,
Speaker 2: because I got to smoke, right, because I can'tnot smoke.
Speaker 1: Well, you can smoke, you just can't smoke on the bus,
Speaker 1: right on the bus right sometimes on the premises they
Speaker 1: don't want you to smoke. So, you know, because if
Speaker 1: you break the rules, you can find yes, you do, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it'll start low and then they'll go up
Speaker 1: to five hundred dollars if you do this. If you
Speaker 1: if you transport fans from one city to another to another,
Speaker 1: you know you can't do that.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's like what you call that ship, you
Speaker 2: know that they'll call that something. Yeah, they call nowadays
Speaker 2: it's human trafficking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's trafficking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you if you fly a girl out
Speaker 2: for the intent of sex, it's human trafficking, even if
Speaker 2: it's weird. Well, yeah, there are like some of these things,
Speaker 2: like obviously Diddy is a piece of shit, but some
Speaker 2: of the things are saying did he did? I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: like ninety eight percent of every rapper and hip hop
Speaker 2: has flown a check out and gave her some money.
Speaker 2: The fuck I ain't, not necessarily, not directly, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go shopping, let's go, let's go get dinner. Ye,
Speaker 2: let me pay for the fly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're you're indirectly Pavel.
Speaker 2: But for sure, Yo, there's so many of your records
Speaker 2: because I know you're such a huge fan of horror movies.
Speaker 2: You are a horror movie buff. Yes, yes, what's your
Speaker 2: what's your goat? But like, what's you likely your top
Speaker 2: three or four hor horror movies of all time?
Speaker 1: I'm the lyrical Michael Myers man, everybody know that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So it's Halloween, do you, fellow?
Speaker 2: Did you love the rob Zombie Halloweens? Of course I
Speaker 2: loved them. Yeah, I own all of I know that
Speaker 2: they're very like ow all of I think they're polarizing
Speaker 2: for some people. Yeah, on all of what do you
Speaker 2: think about terrifier.
Speaker 1: I love terrifier. I love art. Now, you know, I've
Speaker 1: seen all of them. I saw the three hour one,
Speaker 1: me and my wife. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the new one was pretty crazy. It's like Christmas
Speaker 2: movie people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people were leaving out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People were leaving out. We were we were on rooms laughing.
Speaker 2: But I feel like some of your records could be
Speaker 2: horror movie Csycho Bitch.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. I hear. A lot of
Speaker 1: people say that I'm a horror core a rapper, but
Speaker 1: they don't know. I've never looked at myself as.
Speaker 2: A horror core I don't think you're that at all,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. But a lot of people think that
Speaker 1: because of my darkness. You know what I'm saying. My
Speaker 1: darkness is my life. Psycho Bitch is real stories, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when you get into
Speaker 1: ko D, that's when the lines get blurred because I
Speaker 1: got things on there like black in the Sun. That's
Speaker 1: my imagination and they will put that in the horror
Speaker 1: core bracket, I think. But I've never looked at myself
Speaker 1: as a shock horror core MC. I've just I've always
Speaker 1: been infatuated with the darkness, per my Christian mom, Marty Soyer's.
Speaker 2: Khalifa, And if you listen to KOD, it was was
Speaker 2: show me a God kicking that off.
Speaker 1: Yes, show me a guy. Yes, but all that shit
Speaker 1: is dark. But it's my life. I've always wrote my life.
Speaker 1: I didn't ever have to say things to really shock anybody,
Speaker 1: but I've done it in my career to where I
Speaker 1: talk about nipples and noodles and ship this in my mine.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I'm a horror fan,
Speaker 1: you know, but I've never looked at myself in that
Speaker 1: horror genre like Grave Diggers or when it when WU
Speaker 1: Tang them did it Netcrow? I don't really know if
Speaker 1: Neckro did that all really know?
Speaker 2: But no, yeah, but Grave Diggers with Prince Paul and Rizza, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: flatliners and all the mothers I've never done. I never
Speaker 1: aspire to be that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like KOD was like, if you're in
Speaker 2: a dark place because of what you're going through with
Speaker 2: your with your mind, like you're going to create a
Speaker 2: dark So.
Speaker 1: With the face paint and the Bishops Robe. They thought
Speaker 1: horror core, you know what I'm saying, And that's what
Speaker 1: people were like.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Like you're such a visionary, like at
Speaker 2: a certain point in time, like I can see you
Speaker 2: like executive, Like I don't know if it's directing or
Speaker 2: executive producing horror movies or or just getting into like
Speaker 2: flashing out some of these ideas you have.
Speaker 1: I got with Joseph Bashara. He's the composer for you know,
Speaker 1: the music for the Conjuring, for Annabelle, for Insidious, he's
Speaker 1: the Red Devil and Insidious. Joseph We've worked a couple
Speaker 1: of times on music and I, you know, would Rob Pryor.
Speaker 1: I've built with him, you know, on images coming out
Speaker 1: of my head. You know, he's a comic book artist,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, one of the best. I've
Speaker 1: talked to him about getting stuff out of my head,
Speaker 1: and he's drawn things are creatures that come out of
Speaker 1: my head, and we got it in our books and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I haven't done it on a
Speaker 1: level to where I took time to stop touring with
Speaker 1: Tech nine and writing albums commitment. That's a big commitment
Speaker 1: to do movies. You know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: acting feels weird to me. I've done a few. I've
Speaker 1: done The Devil's Carnival with Darren Bousman, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I've done one back in the day
Speaker 1: with Denny Treyo called Vengeance. You know. I've done the
Speaker 1: Life of Lucky Cucumber with the Jackass Dudes. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But every time I've done it, people
Speaker 1: say I do it well, but I feel weird. I
Speaker 1: feel weird trying to be somebody else, and I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable doing music though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So directing out of the comfort zone. No, no, No, directing
Speaker 1: is good, but acting, no.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I would say, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I think like, I just feel like, if you
Speaker 2: know you have the you have it in you to
Speaker 2: do it. Yes, I do, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: I just I just wrote seventeen episodes for my audio
Speaker 1: series fifty sixteen four US, so it's going in that direction.
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, man, did you ever really let
Speaker 2: a stripper burn you on the arm with a cigarette?
Speaker 2: Look at it? That's okay, Look at that, man.
Speaker 1: That's that's a cigarette. Ten times in a row. If
Speaker 1: you see me, do uh am? I psycho on stage?
Speaker 1: On stage, I'm holding my mic and I'm pointing at it.
Speaker 1: Why do I let the stripper burn me on my
Speaker 1: arm with a cigarette and the saint about ten times
Speaker 1: on the road. And I feel that when I feel
Speaker 1: that burner, palm could arrest I'm gonna yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: right there. That was in my high day that night.
Speaker 1: Like it's like a couple It happened a couple of
Speaker 1: times right there. Happened a couple of times. Then the
Speaker 1: room I realized it was damaging my beautiful skin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no ship and I'm like, I can't. I gotta stop this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I was on big XD back then, big shrooms,
Speaker 1: big g hb out of all. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying all the one time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: liquor everything all at once. I'm still here. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm still here.
Speaker 2: Thank god. You you weren't You weren't on those runs
Speaker 2: when Fetanah was so prevalent.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I never. I never putting none.
Speaker 2: I know back then. Though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Ecstasy now is pressing pressed with fantom.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah, everything, you know what I mean, crazy,
Speaker 1: you gotta be.
Speaker 2: Just be super super careful these days. If you're partying, Damn,
Speaker 2: you can only eat rooms and smoke.
Speaker 1: You see that, you see you see you see that,
Speaker 1: you see that. That's That's when I was being a
Speaker 1: fucking weirdo and fire against my skin in my mind
Speaker 1: felt great, right, but my skin, my skin, my skin
Speaker 1: would be pink and bleeding. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The night for sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She got she's smoking, sitting next to me. She's right here,
Speaker 1: I got my handles. Man, I'm like hit me with
Speaker 1: it every time, and she's like, you know all remembers,
Speaker 1: like you're fucking freaky, Like shut up, just keep burning me.
Speaker 2: What's next for a Strange? Strange music obviously is a powerhouse.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you know you guys can kind
Speaker 2: of switch to like more of a distro model recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it goes up.
Speaker 2: What is what is next for for Strange Man?
Speaker 1: Next for Strange just fifty eight sixteen? Next for Strangers,
Speaker 1: ISO's new album X Rated. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Hush Joey cool j Jerry Robinson. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're not slowing down, bro, Bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They I'm getting I'm getting way more polished with my writing.
Speaker 1: I'm getting better with my songs period. And we're all elite.
Speaker 1: When I say we all, I mean all my artist
Speaker 1: and myself. I didn't eat no breakfast today, man.
Speaker 2: Makes two of us. I'm off a fucking energy.
Speaker 1: But this was the first thing I had to do.
Speaker 1: They don't even have no fucking water in my room
Speaker 1: when I was in Australia. Man, Yet they have water.
Speaker 1: You can go in the mini bar and get two waters.
Speaker 1: And I ain't got shit in this but anyway, they
Speaker 1: just want nigga die. But anyway, it's next for strange. Man,
Speaker 1: it's we're doing bigger tours. Man, We're doing better music.
Speaker 1: No sign of slowing down, man, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Was there ever any truth I had heard and you
Speaker 2: tell me this is true or not that you guys
Speaker 2: had talked about maybe signing Bone Thugs and Harmony at
Speaker 2: a certain point in time. Was that ever sniffed around about? Like,
Speaker 2: was that ever anything that almost happened?
Speaker 1: I don't remember this. I don't remember this. I know
Speaker 1: we're on tour with them and O three and we've
Speaker 1: done you know, shows together lately, but uh, I don't
Speaker 1: think they ever needed it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's fair.
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever needed it.
Speaker 2: What was there ever, anybody who you guys were talking
Speaker 2: to who I mean, obviously, I feel like jelly Roll
Speaker 2: is a big example of somebody who kind of came
Speaker 2: on board with the distro side early on when you
Speaker 2: guys started the distro thing and it turned into you
Speaker 2: know what we see now? Yeah, yeah, shout out to yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, fucking Grammys and shit?
Speaker 2: Was there ever any artists who almost did a strange
Speaker 2: deal who just for whatever reason just never hop.
Speaker 1: Hopson pre funk volume Yes, Wow, Hopson and Dame came
Speaker 1: into the office.
Speaker 2: Wow. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Travels was trying to get me to listen to Snow
Speaker 1: the product for two years before I did, Please, man,
Speaker 1: listen to this. I never did.
Speaker 2: And look Grammy nominated, Latin Grammy nominated. She's She's on Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite songs on the album.
Speaker 1: She's On a Cosm. You know what I'm saying the
Speaker 1: later is she on I'm trying to think a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. She's on a lot of shit with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: she on one with me and Russ. That's my favorite
Speaker 1: right on the album. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think we could have had Snow. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know why. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I was doing in my life that I never listened
Speaker 1: and and that's why we've been We've been connected since
Speaker 1: way back in the day, right, I mean Snow, man.
Speaker 1: I think she's an elite lyricist, but she's a songwriter, man,
Speaker 1: And she's diverse.
Speaker 2: Yes, she is man like, she could do anything that.
Speaker 2: She's crazy and she's so like, she's like she could
Speaker 2: hold her fucking own.
Speaker 1: It's like a mother.
Speaker 2: Fight.
Speaker 1: Always put her at the end of our wrap and everybody.
Speaker 1: That's why I always put her at the end of
Speaker 1: the song crazy. On my last song, I got Kevin
Speaker 1: Gates on it. It's called ZOD It's me Joey Cool,
Speaker 1: Kevin Gates and Snow. At the end, he says, she said,
Speaker 1: not take put me on the last verse again.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She start off like that you know what she's worthy
Speaker 1: of that ship?
Speaker 2: Did did you?
Speaker 1: Guys? Ever?
Speaker 2: You know who I when Funk Volume broke up, somebody
Speaker 2: who's a close friend of mine, who I think toward
Speaker 2: with you guys too. Jared Benton's like my brother. I
Speaker 2: love that. I felt like it would have been perfect,
Speaker 2: like a perfect marriage because Jared Benton is is also
Speaker 2: like very like he's a crazy bastard.
Speaker 1: Well he is. But when when Hop and Dame broke,
Speaker 1: I didn't want everybody to come to Strange. That would
Speaker 1: have been ship like that. A lot of people when
Speaker 1: the when the split happened with a Brainstick and Iso,
Speaker 1: they's like, but you said you wouldn't sign them niggas
Speaker 1: from Funk Volume, but you signed Iso. I was like,
Speaker 1: Iso was a different thing than me because they fell
Speaker 1: out because of me, because I did bad juju with Iso,
Speaker 1: and then the bad blood started after that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I felt like I owed Io
Speaker 1: what he wanted from Strange, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he wanted to tour with us. I got a
Speaker 1: net and I was always talking to twisting and saying
Speaker 1: in between that, Like you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: have texted. He's like, that was the kick in the
Speaker 1: that was the kick in the gut. I'm like, no, man,
Speaker 1: don't look at it like that. Man, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to help young brother. You know what I'm saying. This,
Speaker 1: that and the other and but the funk volume thing.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want that, you know, would hop to
Speaker 1: be like, damn, man' just gonna take all my artists.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. That makes sense, Worldwide Choppers, would you
Speaker 2: do another one?
Speaker 1: It another one? It's called speed Him with eminem Now.
Speaker 2: I mean another one. I know that speed Him is
Speaker 2: like I keep in mind.
Speaker 1: I had people slated for speed Him. You know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I had Daddy Yankee. Really, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was, I was in contact, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wanted Nicki Minaj. I wanted Kool Egga from Germany.
Speaker 1: I wanted.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this, I'm sad that we never
Speaker 2: got rits on a worldwide Choppers. Don't worry, but listen.
Speaker 1: I wanted Gabby gabb female artists from Atlanta. She had
Speaker 1: already sent her verse in for Speed Him. I had
Speaker 1: all these people. I had more people slated. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I just can't remember what's Eminem calls though. It's like,
Speaker 2: hey guys, this is something.
Speaker 1: This is Travis saying, Man, you cannot put all those
Speaker 1: people that people don't you know on the song with
Speaker 1: Eminem and you you know, he just wanted to be
Speaker 1: me and Eminem. But Chris Calico said, I got to
Speaker 1: get some of that, bro. I had to give it
Speaker 1: to Chris Calico. I never listened to his verse. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be influenced. And after I did my verse,
Speaker 1: I did my intro. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: I knew once I sent it an m it's so dope,
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. So I'm talking about him in
Speaker 1: the first little eight bars. I guess not because he'd
Speaker 1: be the guest spot. You know what I'm saying. I knew,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I did my verse
Speaker 1: and I did my last verse with all the el's,
Speaker 1: I'm theory of the final fight. I figuring on fight
Speaker 1: audit and send it to him. Travis's like, man, we
Speaker 1: got to cut all the other people out, man, So
Speaker 1: when we dropped it, it was speed them worldwide choppers too,
Speaker 1: So the fans are like, this is not Worldwide Choppers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm not.
Speaker 2: The spirit of the first one.
Speaker 1: They was upset, but they had to give it up though.
Speaker 1: I had to like have a rebuttle, like we're the
Speaker 1: dopest rappers worldwide, so so.
Speaker 2: You know in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it was bullshit. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: like in the last three years, Like three years ago,
Speaker 1: David Banner was sending me beats and he sent me
Speaker 1: this Annie Lynox beat man, this dun d D. I said.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I found a new
Speaker 1: world wide Choppers. But it was something. It was another
Speaker 1: ship that was in the beat that we couldn't get
Speaker 1: clarity on the clearances, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I never got to do it. And I'm like, now
Speaker 1: I could bring NICKI Minaj back, I can finally get
Speaker 1: Daddy Yankee, and I can finally get j I D
Speaker 1: And I can finally get you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: whoever want to go. You know what I'm saying, whoever
Speaker 1: want to go? You know, I can get Foster from Nigeria.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. All these choppers all over
Speaker 1: the world, man, you know what I'm saying, Fucking hurricane
Speaker 1: finally from Kansas City.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just suss Mace, you know, from Topeka, just all these people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, King Ioul haven't been on
Speaker 1: one yet. You know what I'm saying. And who would
Speaker 1: you say, rits haven't been on one? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just do one? You know. So as it
Speaker 1: stands now, if a beat is worthy, because I said,
Speaker 1: it's on the table, because I said, I said, me
Speaker 1: and my nigga twist the ruler and this it at
Speaker 1: the end of speed on. Because everybody who's done it
Speaker 1: thus far from Eminem to everybody, from k Deane to
Speaker 1: Crazy Bone to who de lo can dilemma, all the
Speaker 1: people Chris Calico, all of them in are in my
Speaker 1: circle of choppers. So I said, if you ain't in
Speaker 1: my circle of choppers, you missed it. Because me and
Speaker 1: my doing nigga twist the ruler and this is it.
Speaker 1: This is it. You know what I'm saying. And uh
Speaker 1: I said that. But now I'm thinking, if I find
Speaker 1: the right beat, nigga, We're gonna go again. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go again. World wid Choppers three. Fuck that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I'm getting more crispy, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of racing motherfuckers, but I'm down to race still.
Speaker 1: I'm just tired of racing, motherfucker. Everybody to send me
Speaker 1: a track, want me to race. I'm so tired of racing.
Speaker 2: It's almost like when they think, oh this is we
Speaker 2: need to put Tech nine on this one.
Speaker 1: Hurt me on the fucking n F track. Trust yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: no nomber death bring up. I'm just going, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody want to race? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The one with me and Chris Webby,
Speaker 1: we just did feel like it.
Speaker 2: I feel like Mexican OT could chop two pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Mexican Ot is another one. Mexican O two is another one.
Speaker 2: Mexican Yeah, I met him.
Speaker 1: MEXICANOT is indeed a chopper is one that I would
Speaker 1: call for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So if the beat steps up, the beat has to
Speaker 1: be massive because all the world wide choppers from Midwest
Speaker 1: Choppers one to Mike West Choppers two to Worldwide Choppers
Speaker 1: to Worldward Choppers two speed them. These beats are massive bullshit.
Speaker 1: That's beat to send motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I really I know NICKI Minaj can do
Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying. I know that.
Speaker 1: Let me see, I know that. Uh, Denzel Curry can
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Logic can do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Logic can do it. He had a, he had a,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a chance to do it
Speaker 1: on Rocha. Yeah, he didn't do it after a Joiner though,
Speaker 1: But then they got together afterwards and did one together
Speaker 1: and was hard. Yes sir, yes, yes sir, yes sir,
Speaker 1: but forget he can do it for sure.
Speaker 2: Do you and Chris talk still a lot?
Speaker 1: Or it was my brother beyond music?
Speaker 2: I love Chris Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, you know what I'm saying. You know all
Speaker 1: the time, you know what I'm saying. I got him
Speaker 1: in my phone under son of Sam because his name
Speaker 1: is Samuel Christopher William Washington or Sammy William Christopher Watson,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I called him a
Speaker 1: son of Sam because his dad's name was Sam. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Chris the best always Son of
Speaker 1: Sam is in my favorites.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that was like when
Speaker 2: when you guys had that moment at Red Rocks. It
Speaker 2: felt good just because I know both of y'all.
Speaker 1: And then he just came out and surprised everybody and
Speaker 1: did Anxiety with the Casey Orchestra with me Casey Symphony.
Speaker 1: He came out at the end and they fucking blew
Speaker 1: the fucking place up. And I like doing shit like
Speaker 1: that because people think that when people leave it's bad blood.
Speaker 1: But Cosm, you know that it's no bad blood. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Not at all. It's just people
Speaker 1: going on their own to leave something for their children. Yep,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because me and Trave already
Speaker 1: got strange music for our children and our families, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So motherfuckers want to go on
Speaker 1: their own to start something on their own, like may Day.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, you know what I mean. And they're
Speaker 1: still on. It goes up all day, all day, So
Speaker 1: no bad blood at all. Scatter managed snowb brim all
Speaker 1: that ship, man, you know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Travis and Cuddle ever rekindle.
Speaker 2: Hopefully one day. Yeah, time hotel I've never seen never
Speaker 2: would be nice to see all on stage one more time.
Speaker 1: I think. Cut he's like a minister now, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll do that.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 1: He said, he said he was battling demons and ship
Speaker 1: when he was with me, you know, And.
Speaker 2: I mean he was also with you in probably the
Speaker 2: wildest times. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So if he looks at strange music as he's going
Speaker 1: to have to battle demons war, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't expect, I don't suspect that he will even
Speaker 1: think about doing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I heard he was driving the church van and all
Speaker 1: that kind of shit. So who's to say that he
Speaker 1: would even want to do anything like that.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a fair point, man.
Speaker 1: And make no mistake, there's no demons over here. It's
Speaker 1: only angel baby worldly angel or angel babies. Make no mistake.
Speaker 1: The demons and the angels are within ourselves, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And we have to we have to
Speaker 1: figure out which ones are we going to give power.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me what's been different about being a
Speaker 2: dad at this point in time of your life than
Speaker 2: being a dad at an earlier stage in your life.
Speaker 1: When I had two children at twenty two. Aliah was
Speaker 1: the first. Dantees was right after I hit the road
Speaker 1: like crazy. That's why I made the rain and O six. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's hurt me that I was missing birthdays and missing
Speaker 1: graduations and all this kind of thing. Now that we
Speaker 1: had Alena doing less shows, bigger shows and less let's dates,
Speaker 1: I'm home more and it made me realize how much
Speaker 1: time I didn't have with my children that are thirty
Speaker 1: now and twenty six and thirty one and all that
Speaker 1: kind of shit. I have more time now at home,
Speaker 1: and it sucks that my kids had to endure my absence.
Speaker 2: But there I'm sure like they also probably appreciate. I mean,
Speaker 2: you say you have sacrifice tattooed on your I mean yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and they we have a brand new relationship. You know.
Speaker 1: For a while, me and my first Aaliyah, she was like,
Speaker 1: not on my team. She was like not pro daddy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And for a good reason.
Speaker 1: And lately in the last year she said, Dad, it's like,
Speaker 1: you're all this new person. Now I don't have any
Speaker 1: more insults for you. And I'm like, I'm sure you'll
Speaker 1: find something soon.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Really good, man, really good. We're starting a new chapter
Speaker 1: with Aliyah, Rainbow and Dantees And now Lina's here and
Speaker 1: my wife has Bella Isabella. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She's she's going on seventeen and we're all a family, man,
Speaker 1: and it's time to start creating new memories.
Speaker 2: I love that. Man. Yeah. Well look Tech, the new
Speaker 2: album is.
Speaker 1: On the way, the sixteenth Forest, This summer new tour
Speaker 1: is coming. Yes, yes, sir, Hollywood and nine tour. I
Speaker 1: might be going back with Ronnie Rocky soon, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And then you got something going on with the World Cup.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did the World Cup Sonic. I d
Speaker 1: for k C. Man, you know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: was a flex, you know. And they chose me. They
Speaker 1: called FIFA called me. That's strange. Talked to Travis and said,
Speaker 1: we love Red Kingdom and we love what y'all do.
Speaker 1: We want Tech. They didn't want words. They thought I
Speaker 1: was a producer. Wow, So I'm like, uh, write, I
Speaker 1: write songs. Yeah, That's why I'm the only ID that
Speaker 1: has lyrics, right, you know what I mean, because we
Speaker 1: pushed it, like listen to this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I fucking did Tech nine on it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And they loved it, and they I
Speaker 1: did five different versions and that fifth one they said, yes,
Speaker 1: that's dope. I had too much in the hook. I guess.
Speaker 2: I feel like you and Travy eventually are gonna own
Speaker 2: the pieces of Royals or the Chiefs or something.
Speaker 1: Everybody say you need to run from Mayor. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want that job.
Speaker 2: No, you just got to either bring an NBA team
Speaker 2: to Kansas City or or or you know, buy a
Speaker 2: chunk of the Royals or something, yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, or build my amusement park strange Land man or
Speaker 1: that yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: You guys got so much other building.
Speaker 1: I'm building roller coasters in my notebook, man, I've been
Speaker 1: doing it for the last four years. I'm like, but
Speaker 1: it's so it's so intricate, man. And if I saw
Speaker 1: short of the drawing, man, you're laugh like, an this
Speaker 1: is ship I've never seen. And my daughter I was
Speaker 1: going through my pages. It's like the fact that you're
Speaker 1: even trying something like this on paper is crazy. Dad.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I'm to go to sleep. I
Speaker 1: was doing my mantra this roller coaster I see, I'm
Speaker 1: going through the motions of what it does and how
Speaker 1: it goes up and goes down this hole and cone
Speaker 1: at the bottom that you go down and around and
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I'm I'm asleep by the time it goes
Speaker 1: back around. It goes frontwards and then it goes backwards.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like you guys could do. I
Speaker 2: feel like if you curated a yearly haunted experience. Of course,
Speaker 2: like all you know you go to haunted houses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we went up that could be a Halloween,
Speaker 1: that could be a strange music Halloween. Before last, me
Speaker 1: and my wife and some friends we went down to
Speaker 1: Universal Cities in Orlando.
Speaker 2: Right, you go to the Halloween hornits right.
Speaker 1: And the weekend had a fucking hunter house.
Speaker 2: Dude, he's had a hundred house three or street. That's
Speaker 2: fucking crazy, insane.
Speaker 1: And you can see all these ones where you know,
Speaker 1: you have the boh and all of them are jumping
Speaker 1: out at you. I'm like, I do people are gonna
Speaker 1: be fucking petrified, homie.
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying like you could do it in
Speaker 2: case of course, Yeah, I think that would be crazy.
Speaker 1: I just need to take time.
Speaker 2: It's about the time still doing music. It's about the time.
Speaker 1: It's about time.
Speaker 2: It's about the time, man. So well listen, brother, I
Speaker 2: appreciate you hanging out. We finally got a pod done.
Speaker 2: I mean we've how long was it two hours or so?
Speaker 2: We've We've done so many interviews over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: This one was the first time I ever had you
Speaker 2: on my show was in two thousand and nine and
Speaker 2: Boise Idaho you Wouldn't Merge came in freestyled, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you did. Uh. I forget which verse you did you did?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was one of the verses off Tech Night Collapse,
Speaker 2: probably where you were I forget yeah too. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it's been, it's been. It's been dope to just.
Speaker 1: A long time. It's been. It's been good to see
Speaker 1: your ascension.
Speaker 2: Too, brother. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Man, You're a fixture and this ship trying, brother, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, damn.
Speaker 2: And I try to do my part to always mention you,
Speaker 2: bro when we talk about every time.
Speaker 1: Every time you do they my fans send it to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it. There's always some
Speaker 1: connection with all the new the new guys too.
Speaker 2: That's what I always say. I'm like, yo, like I
Speaker 2: like feel like when it comes to like a certain
Speaker 2: like pocket of the underground world that I kind of
Speaker 2: came up pushing, it's like my responsibility to be like Yo,
Speaker 2: Yellow hangout for the Mexicano TA interview we're about to do.
Speaker 2: You were there that night? Oh, like, oh you were there?
Speaker 2: I was fucked. Yeah, you know it's like like, you know, like,
Speaker 2: how how can I try to bring like either artists
Speaker 2: who I feel like would be dope to that world
Speaker 2: or just you know, shine light to like right to
Speaker 2: some of these guys who are you know, I consider
Speaker 2: to be goats? You like yourself? You know, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you get the recognition and the
Speaker 2: greatest of all time convo? I'm sure you don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't get that recognition because, uh, I don't need
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need I don't need
Speaker 1: I don't need thatccolades from anybody. I just do music
Speaker 1: and if people like it, I love it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I don't need validation from people
Speaker 1: or the culture or anything. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But I would like it.
Speaker 2: No, I know you would like it. I know, I
Speaker 2: know like it. I mean you like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean? And uh, I mean fragile.
Speaker 2: One of your biggest records is literally about people critiquing.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir. That's why I took
Speaker 1: the time to do that on a song like that,
Speaker 1: and it blew up on the radio. I had no idea,
Speaker 1: But I don't need it, but I'd like it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I put a lot into
Speaker 1: what I write. You know what I mean. I always have.
Speaker 1: And over the years, you hear all the new generation
Speaker 1: talking about Tech nine. That's the validation right there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You hear you know, L Russell
Speaker 1: talking about Tech nine. You hear Russtop about Tech nine.
Speaker 1: You hear all these people, Playboy CARDI. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You hear all these people. I just met
Speaker 1: Offset at the super Bowl and as soon as he
Speaker 1: said Tech nine, he looked, he smiled, and he said, legend, man, Legend,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like, that's validation right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like all that other shit you would like,
Speaker 2: but that is as rewarding to hear from from the peers,
Speaker 2: from your peers and from like a whole new generation
Speaker 2: that aren't necessarily your peers.
Speaker 1: And them to do a song for you, like to speed.
Speaker 2: The man that's val doesn't do a song for anybody, No, man,
Speaker 2: for sure, you damn you gotta signed to him to
Speaker 2: get a burse.
Speaker 1: All that's is validation. You know what I'm saying, Two chains, Bob,
Speaker 1: All that shit is validation. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar is validation.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We shooting the video in Kansas City for Fragile. We're
Speaker 1: sitting in this super cold outside, so Travis got his
Speaker 1: RV down there and we're in the RV trying to
Speaker 1: warm up from the top is with him and he's
Speaker 1: like tech Fragile's dope. Man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's Kendrick talking to me, and I'm like, thank you, brother.
Speaker 2: It's been cool to see just topped off evolve as
Speaker 2: this like powerhouse. Right. It's it's it's it's insane. And
Speaker 2: and I I mean, and I'm sure if you asked
Speaker 2: top he took I'm sure a lot of inspiration and
Speaker 2: he learned a lot. I learned a lot from his
Speaker 2: experience with with y'all and putting out that J rock album.
Speaker 1: Man, yes, sir, And what's happening to them? Man? Him
Speaker 1: and Punch and all them is? Uh is astronomical? Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And Kendrick is beyond the Stars.
Speaker 2: And then it's like removed Kendrick all that all the
Speaker 2: Stars is. I don't know if you heard her album is.
Speaker 1: She Is a Monster?
Speaker 2: Is my favorite album last year?
Speaker 1: And and and and dude, how do they find these motherfuckers?
Speaker 2: She's an alien creatively.
Speaker 3: Man fucking lyrically inclined, conceptualistically incline. It's so c MC
Speaker 3: song stress everything.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, damn, like, y'all really got whoever? Like
Speaker 2: you know? Shouts to uh top Son Musa's who I
Speaker 2: believe signed? Uh Dochi? Really yeah, Musa signed do I?
Speaker 2: So it's like, man, good, that's a grab right there
Speaker 2: out of Tampa too. She's out of here, man, she
Speaker 2: is out of here? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, Well listen brother.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Uh man, I'm just I'm a fan
Speaker 2: bro first, you know, and obviously her my friend and
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of people if you're getting into the music industry,
Speaker 2: like you're watching this and you may be like, man,
Speaker 2: it's the first I heard of tech. Like, hey, man, like,
Speaker 2: if you go take this rap shit series, you got
Speaker 2: to like study what you do.
Speaker 1: Exactly for real. Yeah, it's a blessed position being.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when I think of all this independent ship,
Speaker 2: it's like hot all of a sudden, I'm like, man.
Speaker 1: They but just don't don't think like that, because they
Speaker 1: all to me and say, if it wasn't for you,
Speaker 1: for sure, man, you showed us early on. Man, they
Speaker 1: all say it, they all give they all give it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, man, you change I mean, whether I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, but you changed the rap game
Speaker 2: for real, whether or not as sonic sonically or but
Speaker 2: the business of rap music has changed because the.
Speaker 1: Strange track record that's untouchable.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Travis two, who's got way too many cars.
Speaker 2: He should let me have one, and uh he's waiting
Speaker 2: those cars.
Speaker 1: Man, he's in the car business.
Speaker 2: I want to give shot out to Travis two for
Speaker 2: being the buffet old man. They don't just the cars
Speaker 2: from that motherfucker. He's lifting a lot of weights. Oh yes,
Speaker 2: he is jacked.
Speaker 1: He ain't. He ain't big trave no more.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what's so funny is like I don't
Speaker 2: think people would understand because early tech shows Travis would
Speaker 2: be on stage of security is certain shows you'll still
Speaker 2: see him standing. Will you ever bring the face paint back?
Speaker 2: Because that's it, that's a commitment. You got to have
Speaker 2: the face paint guy on on. I forget that over
Speaker 2: the years. I forget the old guy who used to
Speaker 2: paint your face. Yeah. Scenario, yeah, scenario, that's right.
Speaker 1: Scenario before scenario that was Craig David. He died before.
Speaker 1: The very first was Brian Dennis, he died. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My last was second to the last
Speaker 1: was Jose Ramirez. He quit. He wanted to be at
Speaker 1: home with his little girl, Millie, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to raise her, which is noble. And then on my
Speaker 1: lapt my fifth one was Ubi from Sess Crew. He's
Speaker 1: too massive of an artist to be following me around
Speaker 1: and over the years started you know, Brian Dinnis started
Speaker 1: the skull face. Then I just started doing my forehead,
Speaker 1: but over the years turned into my whole face and
Speaker 1: my whole head. That shit takes three hours every night.
Speaker 2: I feel like when you did the mask, it was
Speaker 2: a perfect compromise.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, take it off. Called Corey Taylor.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, man, I can't afford to keep taking,
Speaker 1: not money wise, but like the time, because the time.
Speaker 1: I can't afford the time, and you be being an
Speaker 1: artist that's on the incline. I cannot. Hey, man, we
Speaker 1: got to go to fucking UK if you could paint
Speaker 1: my face and he got to have his shit held up?
Speaker 2: No, who's making the slipknop mask? Give me there?
Speaker 1: Saying no, I called Corey Taylor and I said, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I need a mask that can endure a two hour
Speaker 1: fucking show. And y'all the only ones I know that
Speaker 1: got him for sure, he said, Jake Rounjass California, gave
Speaker 1: me the number. I've been fucking with Jake on like,
Speaker 1: I think we've had three or four different versions of
Speaker 1: the clown thus far.
Speaker 2: You know, what I'm saying, that's dope.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think for a show maybe.
Speaker 2: Maybe for the thirty video. What about for the thirty
Speaker 2: year anniversary.
Speaker 1: Maybe for a video or something. I'll call Ubi and
Speaker 1: see if he's in town and will three hours to
Speaker 1: do my fucking whole head.
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all got to do like a crazy
Speaker 2: show for the thirty years. The thirty years are strange.
Speaker 1: That shit used to burn my eyes like crazy. Oh,
Speaker 1: I bet know what I'm saying. So the Silicon mask
Speaker 1: man really helps me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure? For sure. I can only imagine I'd
Speaker 2: be like, damn like that shit is a commitment every night, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, every night, three hours. The last gathering we did,
Speaker 1: he had to paint my face three hours before I
Speaker 1: went on outside back in here.
Speaker 2: Walking around sweating before the show. Anyway, for sure, man.
Speaker 1: It's hard, hard to do, hard to deal with the
Speaker 1: face plants, A hard commitment because the way I see
Speaker 1: the clown morphing, it keeps getting worse and worse every year.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in my mind, You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With the corrosion and everything. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, maybe I'll sit down for three hours.
Speaker 1: I won't say never though, right I like it? Man, Well, listen, Tech,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up by the album. This summer
Speaker 1: tour coming. When's the tour start day after tomorrow? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're locked in?
Speaker 2: How many from Australia? Like twenty something bad? That's something
Speaker 2: light for you, twenty five? Anything under forty is light
Speaker 2: work for you. Ain't for sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So hey, man, Tech, go go see him on on
Speaker 2: the road. The new record is out right now too,
Speaker 2: so you can go support to the new singles out
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, the new record in the new record,
Speaker 2: don't come out to Uh. Well, when I think of record,
Speaker 2: I think of a song.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can say that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the technicality new record RDV is the new song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's out.
Speaker 2: Go watch the video and Tech, I appreciate you pulling up, brother,
Speaker 2: Thank you brother, Yes, Sir Tech nine, Yes boom