1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: Man, you got to check me out on the Bootleg 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: keV podcast. Man, we just talked for a long time. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody. Man, 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: we got one of the biggest radio shows in the country, 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: syndicated in almost one hundred cities all over. Shout out 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio. All right, some of the latest cities that 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: we've been able to add. Man, want to give a 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: shout out to ninety three point nine the Beat in Honolulu. 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: That's right, Hawaii, We over there going crazy. I also 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: want to give a shout out Hot ninety eight three 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: and Tucson. Shout out to Tucson going crazy. Also want 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: to give a shout out to Wild ninety four one 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: in Tampa going crazy. We just got Richmond. We also 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: just got the good folks in Bakersfield at Hot one 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: O four to seven. So we're going crazy on the 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: radio with my partner James Andre Jefferson Junior for the 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: Bootleg CAV Show. So make sure you tune in and 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: you can listen anywhere on that iHeart Radio app. That's right, 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: let's get into the interview Bootleg CAV Podcast. Man, one 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: of the greatest rappers of all time. Hey, greatest performer 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: in hip hop history. 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Hey tech nine, chech nine. 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: What's up y'all? What's up? Brother? 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh Man? Good to be here, man, of course, I 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm here. I'm half fifteen hours from Australia. 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: You were in Australia. 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow. I was only at home with my family 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: for like six hours. Man. Then I had to get 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: on the plane to come out here to shuit this video. 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't say people understand because I had to go 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: to Thailand for Roland Love last year. That time difference 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: is the worst. 33 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Australia is like a day ahead, right, you know what 34 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when I was going on stage, No, 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: when I was getting off stage, it was seven in 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: the morning. For you know, when my wife wakes up 37 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: for the kid, you know, so I would call her 38 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night. It's like seven o'clock in 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: the morning in casey right, man, it's. 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Horrible, It's horrible. Congrats on the baby, by the way, 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Thank you man. 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: New Life, Man, New Life. 43 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: You know what I love about your transparency through your 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: music over the years, You've always been extremely open about 45 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: open book. Yes, you're because with everything. There's a sacrifice, 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: and your older kids had to really like wear the 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: brunt of like you building this career. We see, yes, 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: you being on the road. Yes, the rain is one 49 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: of my favorite rest, sir. Yes, sir. 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: Now they're like thirty years old now. 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: You know, right, So for you to have a baby 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: like now, like it's almost like you're in a different space. 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: Yes, sir. 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: You know you're you're You're obviously a different person. You know, 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: we all should be evolving, you know. 56 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, in my mid forties, I met I got 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: it on my last album. It's a song called I 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: Met a Morph. And what I realized is that that 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: morph that I met in my mid forties kind of late, 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: is maturity. You know what I'm saying. My maturity started, 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, really making me pay attention, and I wanted 62 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: to start doing something different. I didn't want to start. 63 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to continue to share 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: my energies, my bright energy and my Harnald energy with 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: multiple women anymore. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, I've done it my whole life. Yea, and uh, 67 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: and then do nothing but bring me strife. You know 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or bring other people hurt. 69 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: Short term gratification yeah, man, is usually when you get 70 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: the short term gratification, it's at an expensive something else. 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you know what I'm saying. And I used 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: to call it therapy. I need to have my therapy, 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's just an ego thing. 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: And uh, in my mid forties, I wanted to uh 75 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: dial that back, you know. And I met my I 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: met my lady who is my wife now, right when 77 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: it was happening, you know. And she she she helped me. 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: She helped the transition, you know what I mean. She 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: helped the trans She helped me transition with the drinking. 80 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm four years sober now. She did it with me. 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: When my doctor told me, if I keep drinking like 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I do, mister Kraboloo, You're gonna your heart's gonna explode. 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna you know what I'm saying. I'm like, Okay, 84 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: I quit, you know. So she said, I'll quit with 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: you because she knows, like, as a team, if one of. 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: Us, if one of you guys is doing it's going 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: to be it's almost impossible. Yeah. 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she she she helped me with that. 89 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: She helped me with a lot of things in my 90 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: life that I didn't know was out of whack, you 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And uh, we're we're evolving every day, man, 92 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, every second. And you know 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: that's what Kanye said, I always find it. I always 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: find something wrong. That's that's that's the part of evolving. 95 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: It's part of life, you know what I'm saying. And uh, 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: I figured and we we've been together, this is going 97 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: on eleven years now, you know what I'm saying. So 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: we got married in our tenth year, you know what 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, last last June. 100 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've made my wife a couple of times. Man. Yeah, 101 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 102 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: So we actually lived with each other for a while. 103 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: And that's how I feel like people should do it. 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people, they say, wise man, say only 105 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: foods jump in you know what I'm saying. But I 106 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: can't help fall in love with you that A lot 107 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: of people just jump into it and get married immediately 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: before they learn different chemic levels about each other and 109 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: you know things that Yeah, when. 110 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: You live with someone, yeah, you have to kind of 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: like you almost have to get to the point of 112 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: like seeing each other at your lowest, Yes, so you 113 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: can have that like understand that person on another level. 114 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: So when you do get married, it's like, Okay, now 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: that we've seen each other at our absolute lowest, or 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: we know what each other's faults are, we know how 117 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: to deal with each other, we know how to deal 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: with certain arguments, certain exactly. 119 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: I think people should take time to do that, and 120 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: that's what we did. We took ten years now, not 121 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: saying that she wasn't worthy of marriage in the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, 122 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because she was, you know 123 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. But we have to go through ups 124 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: and downs, and we indeed had ups and downs, you 125 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, financially and everything with the irs. 126 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She had to go through 127 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: that with everything, you know, give away my millions and 128 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: get millions back. You know what I'm saying. That was 129 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: a flex you know what I mean. But I think 130 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: people need to go through those type things with each 131 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: other before they actually get married, because people actually have 132 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: problems when they jump in. Not everybody, though, I'm saying, 133 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm not just generalizing. You know, when I say that, 134 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: I think people should take time. And that's what we did. Man, 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: we took time. We took ten years, and we tied 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: the knot in ten years. I felt like we had 137 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: been through everything possible, right, you know what I mean? 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm glad we did it. We're best friends. 139 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: And with that being said, I said, I want to 140 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: have I want to be connected to that woman. So 141 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: we had Alena. 142 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: I love this too, now you know, yeah, man, that's 143 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: big bro. Yeah. So it's so crazy too, because, like 144 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: I said, with your transparency, like you've for people who 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of generic hip hop fans, 146 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: I feel like twenty twelve twenty I feel like all 147 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: sixes and sevens was a lot of like people's like 148 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: general introduction to what you had going on for so 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: many years, right right right, right right right, Because that's 150 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: like when the Wayne Coat sign happens and you're doing 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: records with Tea Pain. 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, he'll be crazy, he'll go crazy all that, but. 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: You know you have had such a crazy like like 154 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: like that Caraboolu is double platinum by now it's platinum, 155 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: should be I know it's platinum, but like you know, 156 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: you also like like you're in your heyday, you're known 157 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: for being like a crazy motherfucker. Yeah, like you've never 158 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: you know obviously, Eba. Is it ties into that, like. 159 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I hung my uh player jersey 160 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: up like tapestry like eleven years ago. You know what 161 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And uh, I'm glad I did. Man saved 162 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: my life because my brother Maxilla was actually writing a 163 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: movie about me called Georgie. We had this We've been 164 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: working on this movie about Tech ninees called Georgie. You know, 165 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the Georgie Porgie pudding Pie story. Kissed the girls and 166 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: make him cry. That was me, you know what I mean? 167 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: And uh, I told him at the end of it, 168 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: a lady has to kill me. He said, I'm not 169 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: writing that. I'm not writing that. I'm putting it in 170 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the universe. 171 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's damn near the only way that 172 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: could end. 173 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You play the game of hearts, 174 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, usually the the the punishment is death, you 175 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, punishment by death. So I said, 176 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: you have to kill Georgie by a lady. You know 177 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Lady, you have to do it. He 178 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: just stopped. We don't even write it no more. You 179 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He stopped. He's like, I'm not 180 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: writing that, man. You gotta come up with an alternate, uh, ending, 181 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But uh I, I I 182 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: felt like that I had to stop that before that 183 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: came to pass, you know what I'm saying. 184 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: Because it was it could have been an inevitable thing 185 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: for sure, even if it was even if it wasn't 186 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: necessarily like actual death, but a form of like something 187 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: like damn, like I don't. 188 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, like herpes or something that's good, you know what 189 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because if I happened to get herpes when 190 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: I was in the field, I would not be here now, 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: you know. I sure, because if I can't have my Dick, 192 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: I can't have no no, no, So sorry, right. 193 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes I just talk this is I feel like you've 194 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: had one of the most And when we talk about longevity, 195 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: when we talk about errors of your career, what year 196 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: is this so far in terms of let's say album 197 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: one to now, So. 198 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: What do you mean what year? 199 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: What year in your career are we in? I know, 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: I know, like you know, if we go back to 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: the sway days. 202 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: And so for me for strange music is twenty five years. Okay, 203 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: for Tech nine is forty years because nineteen eighty five, 204 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying is when I started, you 205 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, this, that and the other not 206 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: professionally bright like in hip hop period, you know what 207 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean. It was forty years of my life and 208 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: year forty that's crazy. Twenty five years for strange music. 209 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: That's God's crazy. 210 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 211 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. Because even before Strange, it was what was the. 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Was with Westside? 213 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: No I'm thinking was it was like was Angelic was 214 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: on Strange? Right? 215 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Angelic? What was Strange? You know what I'm saying. 216 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: The common before the storm was midwest Side and you 217 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: know then you know with midwest Side, I got signed 218 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: with Quincy Jones, you know what I'm saying in ninety seven, 219 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, uh, you know those 220 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: records never came out though. Yeah, so my first record 221 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: to come out, well major album to come out, was Angelic, 222 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: but midwest Side was the first label in Kansas City 223 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: with Diamond and Don Juan that put out the com 224 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: before the Storm, The Worst, the Worst two k stuff 225 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: like that and Celsius. 226 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: It's so crazy to think that that's how long it's been, bro, 227 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: because I remember first finding your shit, Like my cousin 228 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: Austin put me onto your shit. Yeah, what was what 229 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: was the song that they were working the radio off, Angelic. 230 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: Angela, It's Alive. 231 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: It's yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's crazy too, man, 232 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: because like you've survived so many different like waves of music, 233 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: like yeah, and even just like your own shit, like 234 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: I was. I think it was a twenty eighteen or 235 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: nineteen was the first time I had ever seen you 236 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: on stage without Chris Calico. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 237 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: and it And I know this sounds crazy because I'm 238 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, going all the way back to the Unholy 239 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: Trinity with you, him and cut was crazy, crazy times. 240 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: But the way that you were able to figure out 241 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: a way to like you, I think you were it 242 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: was the Gangster, the King and the clown. Listen. That 243 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: tour was fucking insane. 244 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Though it makes me feel good, you know. 245 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: It was so good. And like my wife is like 246 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: not a Tech nine fan, she's not a hip hop family. 247 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: She just went along, you know, and she's like, Yo, 248 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: this was this is cool. 249 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: But like you don't have to you don't have to 250 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: know tech nize music to enjoy the music or the show, 251 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: you know. 252 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: The live show for sure. Yeah yeah, but like, man, 253 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: there's been so many different eras of like, you know, 254 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: the live show. I mean, yeah, how do you feel 255 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: like obviously you're fifty, you're uh, you're freshly married, you 256 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: got a two year fifty What what am I? You're 257 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: over fifty? 258 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: Right? 259 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, well I don't want. 260 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: To Yeah, I don't give a fuck about that. Yeah yeah, 261 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: I'll be fifty four this year. 262 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: And no, remember, well how long how long do you 263 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: plan on doing the touring thing? 264 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: They still want to hear technico man, every everywhere. I 265 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: just did seven shows out there down under Man and uh, 266 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: the fans even in the US man, even in the 267 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: states Man they are they're getting younger. 268 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: Because how many years straight? Have you toured? Every single 269 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: year for twenty five? 270 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, you know what I mean? 271 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: And uh, even me and the Rogue Dog Villains, our 272 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: DVS was touring, you know what I'm saying. Not like 273 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: trib didn't put together tours, but we did tours you know, 274 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: in the area. You know what I mean, but uh uh, 275 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: I feel like that the fans are not gonna let 276 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: me stop. I mean, do they ask They don't. They 277 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: don't ask Mick Jagger that you know, say, they don't ask. 278 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: No, for sure, the rolling students are still know what 279 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 280 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. 281 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking like that. You just it's like 282 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: so much a part of your lifestyle right to where 283 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: like you damn near spent more time on the road 284 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: than you have maybe in your own home at this 285 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: in the last. 286 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, man, I've been we've 287 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: been doing less. 288 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: No. 289 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: I've noticed that I went on tour with falling Reversals 290 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: only like twenty two. 291 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: Days, right, which is different for you because you're just 292 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: like fifty eight, sixty seventy, you know what I'm saying. 293 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: So we've been kind of dialing it back and just 294 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: doing festivals. You know, I haven't I don't remember my 295 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: last Tech nine tour. Maybe maybe you know. 296 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: It's probably twenty twenty two. 297 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe maybe maybe you know what I'm saying. 298 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: But the fans are getting younger every show that I do. Now, 299 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: I said, I got to know one thing first though, 300 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: how many of you. That's your first Tech nine show. 301 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: The whole fucking place go up. As three thousand people there, 302 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: the whole people, the whole place goes up. 303 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm likely they'll be able to do that. 304 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: So I come to the realization that, uh, they're not 305 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna let me stop now. Me and Travis talked about 306 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: last year. We said five more years, and when we 307 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: get to that five, if we still want to go, 308 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: we will. So it's four now, you know what I'm saying. 309 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: So we don't know. You know what I'm saying, We 310 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: don't know. All I'm saying is that the RDV video 311 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: ran up like crazy already. You know what I'm saying. 312 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: It's almost at two million, you know what I mean. 313 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: And people still want to hear Tech nine. Man, they 314 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: still calling for me. I'm about to go on another 315 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: tour now and day after tomorrow with Hollywood and Dead 316 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna continue the Hollywood nine tour that 317 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: the places we didn't hit on the first one, right, 318 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and now we're gonna go all the way over to 319 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Canada and give it to them as well, you know 320 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's gonna be more young people 321 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: that want to see Tech nine. 322 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: Man, do you remember because when I say you're the 323 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: greatest hip hop live before, in my opinion, you're my favorite. 324 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: I've probably seen you in concert like fifty times at 325 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: this point, but uh, I think you're the goat on stage. 326 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: Do you remember when you really felt like you had 327 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: dialed in that element of what you do? Because I 328 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: remember the first time I ever saw you in concert 329 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: was probably in eighth seven or eight. It was on 330 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: the Bone cotton Mouth King Shit or was it? No? 331 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: It was was it Bone Bone ICP cotton Mouth Kings 332 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: three damn walka to her? Yes, So I saw you 333 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: then and that was super early. But I think the 334 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: first time I saw you like headlining some ship was 335 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: probably like seven eight. Yeah, but but so much like 336 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: there's so much to your live show and it's evolved 337 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: over the years, But do you remember kind of like 338 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: you gain fans just because they saw you and they 339 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: were like, Yo, this is crazy. I gotta go to 340 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: the music, Like when did you have that dialed in? 341 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: Like all the way you feel like me? 342 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Cut Grant and Chris and Travis we would rent out 343 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: a conservatory or something and we'll go over steps for 344 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Angelic you know what I'm saying. Before we went on tour, 345 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: I knew back then, Bro, you know what I'm saying 346 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: that we was locked in and we was doing stuff 347 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: that people wasn't doing on stage. I knew back then 348 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: that us as a team in uniform, not just in 349 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: play clothes, signifies togetherness. So that's saying like, Okay, if 350 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: he's dressed like him, that means if I fuck with him, 351 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: I gotta fuck with him. Him him him, you know 352 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I learned that from soldiers, you 353 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I knew back then early 354 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: on that we were locked in. You know what I mean, 355 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: who got this motherfucking household lot? If you got speak? 356 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: You know the little dance we do, you know what 357 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I still do it to this day, you know. 358 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, uh, I knew it at the beginning 359 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: when we were doing it. The steps that is that 360 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: we were doing something that we had never seen. Because 361 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I started dancing before hip hop. 362 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 363 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: I was I was like like MC hammer style, you know, 364 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: I was a big boy bring dancing poplock and you 365 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, All that so I brought that 366 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: to Tech nine, you know what I mean, And throughout 367 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: the years, if it's something we didn't rehearse at the 368 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Ballet Conservatory, if I started doing a step that was extra, 369 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: they would join in. Or if Chris started doing a 370 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: step that was extra, we do it over Cut said, man, 371 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the B walk on this. I would 372 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: join in, you know what I'm saying, to do it 373 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: with him, you know. So we would add stuff throughout 374 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: the years, you know what I mean. So it's it's 375 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: just a magical thing. So now before okay, I'm gonna 376 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: talk about this, twenty twenty COVID hits correct. Chris Calico say, 377 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, we got a we got a jelly Roll 378 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: tour on the horizon, you know what I'm saying. 379 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: And jelly Roll was with Strange, Yeah, said he was. 380 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: He had signed to our distribution. 381 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: Was that around the time you guys did the Red 382 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Rocks and there was like the big I think Chris 383 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: came out at Red Rocks. 384 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: That was like that was like twenty nineteen, yeah, yep, yeah, 385 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: so that was like the last hurrah. Yeah, because Chris 386 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: was talking about leaving then and then he came out 387 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: like boom, and the fans like, holy yeah, he's staying. 388 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna Yeah, he said, he's gonna do some more 389 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: years with us, you know what I'm saying. Because he 390 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: was thinking about going on and doing his own label, 391 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: this and the other, you know what I'm saying. So 392 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: he came out of Red Rocks twenty nineteen. Yeah, boom boom, 393 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: boom boom. It was a big thing, you know. And uh, 394 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty came, and then that tour got canceled, the 395 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: Jelly Roll Tour with Take nine, you know, and before 396 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: we went on at Chris Calico said, Yo, teg, I 397 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: can't go for this price no more. You know what 398 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I gotta have more of I'm gonna go. 399 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: And I said, let me see what I can do. 400 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: So I said, you know, I called in the Travis. 401 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you can get him two more hunted, 402 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: I think he'll be good. You know what I mean 403 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: that I'll put him at a you know, a nice 404 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: place you know, and travels like tech. Because the tour 405 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: got canceled and now we were trying to go on 406 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: tour after that, we're getting reductions. You know what I'm saying, because. 407 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: People don't go down because they. 408 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: Don't know if people are going to come. So that's 409 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: what the promoters were using against us, like we don't 410 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: know what you're going to do, you know what I'm saying. 411 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: So paying somebody extra money when we're getting reduction would 412 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: be like shooting, yeah, counter productive to shooting myself in 413 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: the foot. So travel like at this point I would 414 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do this, but I would ask Chris if 415 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: we can reduce his pay, you know what I'm saying. 416 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to do that, right, No, he's 417 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: not going to do that, you know what I mean. 418 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: So I had to call Chris and say that to him. 419 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: He's like, I can't go there TECH and I'm like damn. 420 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm like okay. I was like, maybe this this just 421 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: this last one. I'm trying to keep him held on. 422 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: Maybe just this last one, you know what I'm saying. 423 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: He's like, no, man, I gotta you know, and you know, 424 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: during COVID, you know you have to find way to 425 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: take care of your family. He found ways, you know 426 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: what I mean, And to let him see that he 427 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: could do his own. So when he came to me 428 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: and said, I want to leave, but I want to 429 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: let the fans know that we're still connected and ain't 430 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: bad blood or nothing, because it's not you know what 431 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we created this live stream. We were 432 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: doing live streams during. 433 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are doing like the concert shit us. 434 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we couldn't tour yea, so we were we 435 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: were doing live streams. 436 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: We can. 437 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: You know, we always survived strange music. We're gonna find 438 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: a way, you know what I mean. So Chris said, 439 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: let's do a farewell one for me, you know what 440 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and introduce my new label, Earhouse, And we 441 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: did that, you know what I mean. So I'm happy 442 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: doing this for Chris. But on the inside, I ain't 443 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: never said this. On the inside, I'm like, damn IA 444 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: need my brother man right up there, man, my guys, 445 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: because I had to think back to where when I started, 446 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: I was by myself, but not really when I when 447 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: I got with Travis, I brought Grant and Cut and 448 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Chris came in last. You know what I'm saying. 449 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: For sure, I mean, your guys is dynamic on stage. 450 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: Yeah we grab a bottle, yeah yeah, yeah no, but 451 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: your guys dynamic on stage is it's historical. 452 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, So with me remembering that, I came in with 453 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: full motherfucker right, thank you. I was kind of leery 454 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: about what I would do by myself. I ain't never 455 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: said that because I'm a king, I can you know 456 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So in my in my heart, I'm like, man, 457 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do without my backup? But once 458 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: I start rehearsing by myself, I'm like, Damn, I got 459 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: all this wind myself. You know what I'm saying. I've 460 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: always done uh breathing exercises throughout my career that will 461 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: allow me say a whole four bars without breathing. You 462 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying for 463 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: a whole four bars. So I had to remember that 464 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: and when I started, when I did my first show 465 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: by myself and I rocked it, that gave me the 466 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: confidence because I was worried. I was worried. 467 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know it. I didn't know what to expect. 468 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody did. It's not the same without Chris. I 469 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: know it's not the same, but it's fucking. 470 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: The way you guys had those led walls and ship 471 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: and the way that like the whole like you're doing 472 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: the outfit changes. It also probably gave you time to 473 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: breathe a little, you know, reset it did Chris. 474 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Chris being there gave Chris can cut them being there 475 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: gave me a lot of breathing time. 476 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 477 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't have that no more. So now I say, 478 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting my DMX on. You know what I'm saying, resting, 479 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: May God rest the soul. I'm getting my Kendrick on. 480 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm getting my jay z on. 481 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I realized after a 482 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: first couple of the first couple of shows that I 483 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: got this ship. You know what I'm saying. And you 484 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: know it would I would love for Chris to return, 485 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: but I got. 486 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: It, you know Yeah, I think I think before it's 487 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: all said and done, man, the Unholy Trinity's got to 488 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: get back together for one one more fucking Hurrah dog, 489 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: even if it's one show, even if it's like a 490 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: single show in casey or something like that. 491 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: I will never say never, but I'm saying, maybe you'll 492 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: get the duo. 493 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and Chris is definitely on the table. 494 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, maybe you'll get the duo 495 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: TRAVI and Cuddy ain't gonna never see how to eye. 496 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: That's fair, you know what I'm saying. 497 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: Some things were said that I can't even fix because 498 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, me and some of the people that strained 499 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: when we were doing COSM, we's for sure, you know, 500 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: we had we had we had uh talks with Travis 501 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: about Cuddy and he was like, man, He's like, so 502 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: you think the fans want to hear Cuddy and everybody 503 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: in the office like, yes, you know what I'm saying. 504 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: And Travis was like, I ain't got no problem, man, 505 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: I just I just don't feel I don't feel complete, 506 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying with that part. You know 507 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the misunderstanding they had, you know what 508 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I gotta I gotta feel that, you 509 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And as men, I gotta feel. 510 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, I can't that it wasn't petty for trap 511 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: or nothing like that. I don't think it's petty. I 512 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: just think that it never got resolved. You know. It 513 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: was something that brought Trav's wife into it. You know 514 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and. 515 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like once you cross certain you know, yeah, 516 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: you know like. 517 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: I've never seen when Kanye said this about jay Z's 518 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: kids or whatever. But after you cross that, it's. 519 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: Hard to walk back that. You get like, I'm fair 520 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: game ship. 521 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're talking about some family. 522 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: It's like it's just hard to you know, it's. 523 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you'll ever be able 524 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: to come back to that, you know what I mean. 525 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: I think luckily nobody else on the label I've done 526 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: anything like that. You know what I'm saying. 527 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: And you know, I. 528 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: Remember I remember talking to Cuddy about it, you know, 529 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, we're talking about him. You know. 530 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: But you know, if you say on a song, that's 531 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: why I fucked Joe, bitch, you fat motherfucker, Like pup, 532 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: you can't say that in the circle you're in. You 533 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When when you're breaking up, you 534 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the group. 535 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 536 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's like I know, like, you know, 537 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: our good friend just bad taste, you know, bad timing. 538 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: You know, I know that we have a mutual friend 539 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: who's a psycho or boy ritz, I know, like he 540 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: had hit had his Uh it wasn't that bad, but 541 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: it wasn't anything you couldn't come back from. 542 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: No, because he's on Cosm right. 543 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: And and like and like and like you know because 544 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: like like again, it wasn't ever anything like and then 545 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: he could always be like I was drunk man, Yeah, yeah, 546 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: And if you've been on tour with Rich you're like, 547 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, this motherfucker's a psycho, right, Like. 548 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, when people lose something. I'm not generalizing, 549 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: but uh, some people, what I've learned over the years, 550 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: they deflect and it's always the label's. 551 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: Fault instead of looking in the mirror. 552 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know what I mean, and that and 553 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: that's what some people do. I don't remember none of 554 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: the ship, you know what I mean? And trap, like, 555 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: how don't you remember the ship that people have done 556 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: to us? I'm like, I don't know, but I know 557 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: that the music is first and foremost, you know, for sure, 558 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: And we did Cosm and everybody came back, almost everybody, 559 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: Chris Kellicole almost made it. But we're trying to get 560 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: some We're trying to get some some back business done 561 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: before we go forward. 562 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: You know who else on the new album? Me? 563 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Because this album fifty eight sixteen Forrest is coming out 564 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: this summer. When black first came to me, it's like, man, 565 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: you need to do an album. 566 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: Is that your bar code number? What? 567 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: No? 568 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: No, no, okay, you have your bar code number. 569 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: That's six six triple a FO that's in that house. 570 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 571 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: That's something else, you know to shit. When Blackwall first 572 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: came to me, he said, man, people want to hear you. 573 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: Do you without no collaborations? I said, that's boring as fuck. 574 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: You know, my whole career, I'm always collabed. You know 575 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 576 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you got Tech nine collab as its own 577 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: artist page. 578 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: I do, I do, I do. But you know, even 579 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: in my on my albums, I got major collapse of course, 580 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he telling me that 581 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: people want to hear you, and I'm like, that's boring. 582 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I went to travel. I said, listen, black Wall, he 583 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: just got out. He's been locked up fifteen years. He's 584 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the guy that gave me my Tech nine name in 585 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: eighty eight. You know, And uh, I said, black Wall 586 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: said that people want to hear me on the verses, 587 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: that's it, and uh I said, I think that's boring 588 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: as fuck, and Trav said, he's. 589 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: Right, because you've never given given one of those. 590 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: So my idea was to do an album called fifty 591 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: eight sixteen Forests where I moved there when I was 592 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: twelve to seven. So as I got into the writing 593 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: of it, you know, me writing all the verses, maybe 594 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: have you know a few hooks done by some major 595 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: artists or something that's about it, you know what I mean. 596 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: But I got into a couple of songs and I'm like, 597 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: this is beautiful. So it turns out to be an 598 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: audio series with seventeen episodes of my life on fifty 599 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: eight sixteen fours from age twelve to age seventeen, when 600 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I ran away from home to become Tech nine, you 601 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: know I'm saying, on the quest to become Tech nine, 602 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's in chronological order. 603 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: Only one producer from Kansas City's name is Jaypeas. You 604 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I've never done that one producer. 605 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: He had all seventeen tracks, you know what I mean. 606 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: And this is the album where I don't have any features, 607 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you know a lot 608 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: of fans been asking for that for a long time. 609 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, Trav' already always been in my ear about it. 610 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: But this is the moment when it made sense to me, 611 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: because why how can I have anybody on these verses 612 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: when I'm telling my story? 613 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, if you really think about some of 614 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: your I mean not maybe not like radio songs, but 615 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: like your biggest songs for real, like that the fans love, 616 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: they're mostly all you by yourself. If you think about 617 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: like your technicians and ship you know, Einstein, you. 618 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. 619 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, eas even the word shit on kod is 620 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: you by yourself? Like that's crazy, Like, yeah, it's probably 621 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: my favorite tech song ever. 622 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Crazy, that's crazy. I never thought of it like that 623 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: mental giant, mettal giant. Holy shit, now that one. 624 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: It's hard. 625 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: That it's hard. We was tripping on that in Australia 626 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: because we would sound check my, my, my, my sound guys. 627 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: They would sound check with that song, you know what 628 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean? For me and I'll be in there and 629 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, seven on the what possessed him that night 630 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: to do that song? But holy ship, man, you know 631 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's hip hop at its finest for sure, 632 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: but all those songs being by myself. Like you said, 633 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: this is the album where I tell my story with 634 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: only a few major collaborations on the hooks. 635 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: So there's some hooks stuff. 636 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: There's some hook stuff, you know what I'm saying, you know, 637 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: here and there, But that's about it. But it's special, man, 638 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: it's special and audio series with seventeen episodes about my life. 639 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: Anybody's really done that. 640 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard it. Yeah, But the last song on 641 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: the album, you know how strange music albums and strange music, 642 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: there's a song after the strange music called JA six 643 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: is about my lucky Jay sixes in ninety one, how 644 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: I could afford to get some Georgian Jordan six black 645 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: infrared color ways. You know what I'm saying. That song 646 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: is after the tag, and it's a humongous one too, 647 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: because it happens what happened was after I ran away, 648 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: two years after that Jay six has occurred, you know 649 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so after the tag, there's a 650 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: song that happened that's some shit that happened two years 651 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: after I ran away, and I put Jay six. I 652 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: put it there like that in case I wanted to 653 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: keep going, right, just in case I don't know if 654 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going, you know what I'm saying with 655 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: the story. 656 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: But in case, yeah, I mean, because you could always 657 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: do it. I mean, if you get inspired to do so, 658 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: you could always do another album, a continuation of yeah. 659 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: From me from becoming Technine. I can do it, but 660 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to bore people. But this one is special. 661 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: Our DV just coming out, you know, a few days ago, 662 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: while like last week, you know, let everybody know that, Okay, 663 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: this is gonna be some tech nine nineties kind of 664 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: field beats and everything. You know what I'm saying, It's 665 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: going all the way back to the beginning. JPZ did 666 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: a stand up job with making the beats current but 667 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: still with that feel of Rogue Dogs and Mitch Baide 668 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: and all that kind of hcladiog stroll feel that Don 669 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Juan did early on. You know what I mean, what. 670 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: You You've had the pleasure to change a lot of 671 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: artist lives that aren't necessarily strange music affiliated. You've I 672 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: think about some of the tours that I've been to 673 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean yeah, j Rock, Ko Glass of Malone. 674 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Malone was on that tour. Dax, Yeah, shout out to Dax, 675 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: Freddy Gibbs. 676 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Look how well he's doing. 677 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, but it's been it's been so dope. 678 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: But I want to know because you know, Fragile was 679 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: such a moment that had been. I would say that 680 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: relationship because a lot of people who don't know, like 681 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: Jay Rock had had to deal with strange you guys 682 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: put out his his was that his first full length album. 683 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: It was his first album because he had to do. 684 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Right. 685 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: But that was like his first solo album that came out, 686 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: follow Me Home, Follow Me Home. Yeah, And that was 687 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: a partnership you guys had with TD. We see Kendrick's 688 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 2: on the road with Rocky. 689 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick was on the road with Ray Jock. Uh, Jay Rock. 690 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I almost said Ray j Dude Kendricks on the road 691 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: with Jay Rock because the guy that was out there 692 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: before Jay Rock's Kim Folk MJ. He got killed in Reno, 693 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. On that tour, Damn. You 694 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: know we were we were performing at one of the 695 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: venues out there and it was way after the venue, 696 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: like three o'clock in the morning. We were sitting in 697 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: the sitting in the in the alley way, waiting for 698 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: the bus drivers. You know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 699 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: That's back when I was still partying ship. I'm up 700 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: partying with bitches everything, you know what I'm saying. And 701 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: uh we heard shots three o'clock in the morning, and uh, 702 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: m J. He you know, I guess he was on 703 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: the phone with his wife because the bus is going crazy. 704 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: He wants to go call us life. You know what 705 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Let. 706 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: Me walk away, call my wife, make sure she does bullshit. 707 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: I guess they said it was some like Cambodian crips 708 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: across the street at the the liquor store early on. 709 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: Just looking over there, you know what I'm saying. And 710 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: everybody knows, you know, where we come from, the neighborhoods 711 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: and all that kind of thing, you know what I'm saying. 712 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: So I guess MJ had on a red J Rock shirt. 713 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: MJ is actually the crip. You know what I'm saying. 714 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: I have on read J Rock shirt because he's who's 715 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: on he's on tour with he's on the phone's wife. 716 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: And then three of them walked up and they said 717 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: that he said, uh, They said, y'all ready and then 718 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: tried to score up with him. Cut out, Houn, come 719 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: out the buzz like what you're trying to jump my nigga? 720 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's when the guys pulled 721 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: out and shot MJ all in the lower his lower park. 722 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: He was still alive, you know what I'm saying. I 723 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: talked to him on the phone a couple of days 724 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: later U at the hospital. We had to leave him 725 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: there in Reno at the hospital, you know, and and 726 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: go on to South Salt Lake City. By the time 727 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: we got to Salt Lake City, we got the call 728 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: all the buck blood clots killed him, you know. So 729 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: that's when they had to call on Kendrick to come 730 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: and fill fill out, fill in for MJ. It was hard, man, 731 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: it was hard. It was hard. And that's how I 732 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: met Kendrick, and that's when he gave me the section 733 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: eighty CD and that's when I put him on all 734 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: sixes and seven so nobody knew who he was. And 735 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: I love music with me and my family Marcus Jads 736 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: and then we did the one you're talking about, Fragile 737 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: after that when City just came. 738 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, which went platinum. 739 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it went platinum. 740 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: That was was fragile before Hood Go Crazy. Rod was 741 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: after Okay, okay, okay, m what was it something about? 742 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: Because I feel like Kendrick was like the kind of 743 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 2: artists because around that time I had him on my show, 744 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 2: I think when I was in Vegas and like twenty 745 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: ten he came and freest out on the show. And 746 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: this was right before section eighty dropped. But like if 747 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: you were around him, you kind of knew, like, this 748 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 2: dude's alien. 749 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: For reason, Yes he was. He was a quiet dude 750 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: still that to this day. But you can tell that. 751 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: You know, Jay Rock would play me black hippie shit 752 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: on the bus. He was, you know, and I'm like, 753 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: who is that? That's k Dot? This is when j 754 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: was on the tour. 755 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: It's k Dot. 756 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: He's crazy. You know, I'm like, katok crazy, you know 757 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then I finally met him, and 758 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, on that tour we found out that he 759 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: was a special. 760 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 761 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: He watched me every night on stage when I was performing. 762 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: When you see his show now, man, you know, nothing 763 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: resembles Tech nine. He got his own energy, his own ideas. Man, 764 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: it is. It is massive. I watched that show in 765 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: Paris on Hulu or whatever, you know, and I was 766 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: just in awe. Man, you know what I'm saying, what 767 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: he's become on stage, and I've been to multiple tours 768 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: over the years to Kansas City, brings me on stage 769 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: and tells the story of us and all that man 770 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: and what he's turned into. Man is a mom monster live. Man. 771 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you guys saying that I'm 772 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: the best show man that nigga, that nigga is. It's 773 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: hard to beat. 774 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: You see him on fucking Super Bowl two bows crazy. 775 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: I was there. I was there. 776 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: I bet you were a sad day for you. I 777 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 2: was there only I know it was. I'm sure halftime was. Son. 778 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: I was there. I was seeing it at Homie. 779 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: At least he gave you a good show to take 780 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: the take your mind off of the score. 781 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: I know. I'm gonna tell you like this, Before he 782 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: came on stage, the Eagles was. 783 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: They was already clapping, y'all. 784 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: They were, they were, they were, they were scoring so much. 785 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: After a while, I just started laughing, like Travis was heated. 786 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: He was just sitting there like this next to me 787 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: was Travis right here, Me right here, my uncle Ike 788 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: right there, my son next to him. You know what 789 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and you know other people that was with us. 790 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: Travis was like he wasn't laughing at all. I'm like, 791 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm eating my food, just laughing like this is old. 792 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: I got enough rings. 793 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: It's never enough ring, No for sure, especially what it 794 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: does for the city. 795 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: No for sure. For sure. 796 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, the morale and all that 797 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know, the parade, we wouldn't have 798 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: the official record like parade we wasn't gonna have no 799 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: more because the last parade they start shooting. 800 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: But you I mean I'm saying, I mean, I feel 801 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: like it's good too for for I mean, you have 802 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: the anthem, so if they win, it's good for business. 803 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, Red Kingdom. I wrote that shit in 804 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I put it out in twenty nineteen. Isold 805 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: king Io did the beat. We lost a year, but 806 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: it's still here after all these years. 807 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: For sure. 808 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: I took it off the set list though, you know 809 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: they let me know it. And uh, when we lost 810 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I took it off the set list. 811 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't came brag no more. You know 812 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But uh, the fans in Australia let 813 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: me know, like we want to hear Red Kingdom, So 814 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: I had to do it a cappella. 815 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to give them a little taste. 816 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: They like they got Red Kingdom up on the signs 817 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: and shit, I'm like, it's just a song. The people 818 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: love who. 819 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: Who was the one artist who you brought on the 820 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: road that gave you a run for your money live 821 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: where you were just like, oh okay you you showed 822 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: up like. 823 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: Shit, I always been the what it is? You know 824 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 825 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: I know what I'm saying, Like someone who you brought 826 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: on the road, who opened for you where you were 827 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 2: just like yo, that there there. 828 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: No, I didn't have love. I ain't never have my 829 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: jay Z uh DMX moment because. 830 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember when DMX opened for Hope on 831 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: the Hard Knock Live tour. I was like, I don't 832 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: know how jay Z's. 833 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Nobody ever know they ain't taking nothing away from Ritz, 834 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: They ain't taking nothing away from or mg K or nothing. 835 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: But no, ain't nobody ever made me feel like holy shit, 836 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: I got to bring my egga, you know what I'm saying. 837 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: I went on before Ronnie Radkey and following reverse on 838 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: this last tour, you know what I mean. And I 839 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: saw all the ship that they do won't stay. I 840 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: was like, God, damn, I gotta step my ship up, 841 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Ship like that recently, But 842 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: uh na, man, I ain't never had that jay z 843 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: DMX moment like, Oh, these niggas out here killing it. 844 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: I encourage even the openers tear that shit down. Make 845 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: it hard for me. Always tell my artists make it 846 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: hard for me. 847 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: What I think is like a real like sign that 848 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: you are amazing at what you do is because I've 849 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: seen you do festivals where it's not a crowd full 850 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: of technicians and just cultivate the whole crowd. And that's 851 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 2: the hardest thing to do because it's easy. And I 852 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's easy, but it's one thing to perform 853 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: in front of your people. Yeah, it's another thing to 854 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: be like, oh, this is a radio show. 855 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: Yes, radio show. I've done those and killed. 856 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: Them, and you know what I'm saying, It's just different though. 857 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, it's like I'm the one backstage hearing 858 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: the crowd going so so right. I love that. I 859 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: love that for people to have that, But it doesn't 860 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: make me feel like, Okay, I got a fucking kill shit. 861 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I already know I 862 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: kill shit, you know what I mean? My spot is 863 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: forever reserved. 864 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: Like forty was great too, when you guys had that 865 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: forty tour, that was great. Talk to me about there. 866 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: There's the moment when you get shouted out by Lil 867 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: Wayne when he's incarcerated. Around that time, there was this 868 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: light that was flashed on what you guys are doing 869 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: in case, yes, I remember there, Yeah, there was list. 870 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: I remember it might have been Double Excel. Someone on 871 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: YouTube went and showed the operation, and all of a 872 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 2: sudden it was like, well shit, you know, people are 873 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: paying a lot more attention to what we got going on. 874 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: Tell me how the Little Wayne relationship kind of like 875 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: helped kind of change the trajectory of like opening you 876 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: up to new fans, and how it's still intact to 877 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: this day. 878 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: Wayne speaking my name saying that he wanted to work 879 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: with me in one hundred three thousand. 880 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: Man, because you're on the Carter four. 881 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the Carter four. He said he was 882 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: gonna make that happen. I didn't know he was going 883 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: to put. 884 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: Us both on the same song, which is Yeah, the 885 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 2: introduwser my favorite part of that. It's crazy for sure. 886 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: And the way I heard it, he said, you want 887 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: to hear your song and he came to Kansas City. 888 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he played it in Travis's office And 889 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: when Andre came on after me, I was trying to 890 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: be cool, but the inside of me is like, holy 891 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: fucking ship. Here, I got a song where Andrey I 892 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: was blown away. I was like, holy shit, you know 893 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't know he was gonna do that. 894 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: So after that, I noticed that at the gathering of 895 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: the Juggalos, whenever I'd say it, they boo. You know 896 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They boo when I say little Waye. 897 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's my family. 898 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: We ain't go do that. 899 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is for the love of hip hop. Respect 900 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: that when I'm here, and they would clap, you know 901 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, they respected that, you know what 902 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because a lot of my fans didn't want 903 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: the mainstream over here. They wanted there's a secret, and 904 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: that's how fans do. They are like all fans are 905 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: like they want they want the best kept secret. But 906 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: something like Tech nine you can't keep contained, man, you 907 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I said a long time ago, 908 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: tech won't go mainstream. The mainstream will go tech. And 909 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: that's what gradually happened, you know what I mean. Wayne, 910 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: was that first thing that happened when he said out 911 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: of the blue, when I forgot who asked him? I 912 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: forgot I was funk Master flex Or. I forgot who 913 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, asked him when I was in jail, 914 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: who you want to I want to work with my 915 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: main man, Tech nine and Andre two thousand. Everybody's calling me. 916 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: I had to fight strange Land, meaning the fans, you 917 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because they wanted to keep that 918 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: shit over there. You know what I'm saying. Lollipop was 919 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: out at the time. I want to hear that shit, 920 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I fucked with elite artists, 921 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: and I adore elite artistry. So Wayne saying that, I 922 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: went to Rikers and said thank you. Me and Traft 923 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, went out to the East Coast and said 924 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: thank you, you know, and he said when I get 925 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: out his on and it was as soon as he 926 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: got out, he said, come on down here in Florida. 927 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: We got a song. And they played it for me. 928 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: Mike Bangor was the engineer. He played it, damn dud. 929 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, get on there and chop 930 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: that ship up. Wayne came in at twelve midnight, heard 931 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: it the next day and say, yeah, now I'm ready. 932 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm ready. That's what I wanted. I'm like, yeah, 933 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, the hood responded, 934 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Tech killed it. Tech killed it? On all of surprise 935 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: to see Tech on the carter Ford did it. It 936 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: did so well with me for the culture for sure, 937 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because when you think about 938 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: strange music, did you kind of think subculture? Right? It's yeah, 939 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for the culture, that 940 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: was a win for me. 941 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. It was funny to watch it because it was 942 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: like all of a sudden because you would always kind 943 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 2: of hear people talking about Tech nine and they would, 944 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, because you had the face paint. How you 945 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 2: deal with this your whole career? 946 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: Right? 947 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: Read here and like, I feel like the Wayne, because 948 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: it always takes somebody when you are doing something underground 949 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 2: or doing something out of the norm, out of the box, 950 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: for pop culture to kind of embrace it. You kind 951 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: of need like a Wayne to be like, nah, this 952 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: is it, yeah, man. And then I feel like I 953 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: feel like you had gone through me and you had 954 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: a conversation. It might have been a backstage in Orlando, 955 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: it might have been to Freddy Gibbs tour, and this 956 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: was around the time breaking into colored houses to drive, 957 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: but I remember you were a little frustrated with the 958 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 2: lack of support from your own community. 959 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: Of course I've been, I've been. I've been banging that 960 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: my whole career. The message to the black man, all 961 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: those songs. Many why you ain't called me? You know 962 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying all that, you know what I'm saying. 963 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: It's like I've been talking about it because I always 964 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: felt like technol because I am the king, the clown 965 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: and the g I'm three dimensional, that it should be 966 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: for everybody. And that's what started with the gangsters in 967 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 1: the hood, you know what I'm saying, in Kansas City, 968 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: then the metal heads and then the college kids and 969 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: all that kind of shit, and then the Juggalos, you 970 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then you know rock and 971 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: roll all that. You know, I felt like that it 972 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't exclude my people. 973 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 974 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: So usually when you do something and I don't like 975 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: to generalize, I'm saying that, ain't all black folks, right, 976 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: you know for sure painted face, red, spiked hair at 977 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: the time. 978 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: Nah bro Even now people are like like, you know, 979 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 2: like but it became cool though, but now like there's 980 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: this like you know, sub genre of like kind of 981 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: punk rock you look at like Woozy has done. 982 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, playbrook CARDI said, he playbrock CARTI went on and 983 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: said that I was the pioneer of what he does, 984 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: uh image wise, And. 985 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 2: You know I didn't know that. 986 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah he did like a year and a half ago. 987 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: Shout. I just saw his show and it was it 988 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 2: was a lot yeah yah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 989 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 2: yeah yeah he said. 990 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: And you know, I think a lot of people don't know. 991 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: You was just talking about how I've been in it 992 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: for so long and still on the incline and all 993 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. Man. I always tell my fans 994 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: that I'm Alu Card that's Dracula backwards. You know what 995 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't look like I'm about to be 996 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: fifty four. 997 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: Now you look better than ever, bro, I'm honest. Yeah, 998 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 2: you look like Yeah, I'm gonna be here. You look 999 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: like better than you looked in like two thousand. 1000 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen because he. 1001 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 2: Was wearing all that drugs and all that liquor. Yeah. Yeah. 1002 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: And I don't eat nothing but sour dough bread now, man, 1003 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: only we bread on eat white bread. Don't you eat another 1004 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: ship because Sarado has health benefits. But that's here you 1005 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: need to hear. No there. But it's like certain things 1006 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: that I changed that my wife implemented, right, you know 1007 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? And uh, I think that uh people 1008 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: always going to give the props to Tech nine for 1009 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: what we done early on independently and image wise that 1010 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: I got crucified for and I didn't give a fuck. 1011 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: You know I have. I have the worst sacrifice across 1012 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: my chest, really big. It's been there for years, you know. 1013 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: And I sacrificed myself for them to run right now. 1014 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think of like 1015 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: Denzel Curry had an album where his face is painted 1016 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 2: NBA young boy had a little wave where he painted 1017 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: his face on it on social media decades later, Yeah, 1018 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: decades later, and I just remember like you being chack 1019 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: at it or weekend it. Yeah for sure, weekend it, 1020 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: for sure. But you were put into this like box 1021 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: because I think around that time, like there was like 1022 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: you know, it was also kids were a lot more 1023 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: shallow with their taste back then. 1024 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: I think I think I think some some of the 1025 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: culture they think, I said, some of the culture. People 1026 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: in the culture, they think that when you do stuff 1027 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: like that, like paint your face. I have a Bishops 1028 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: robe on with red spiked haear that that's me saying 1029 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: that I don't have the skill to get people's attention, 1030 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 1031 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 2: So let me but the rest to get the attention. Yeah, 1032 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: they already write you off. 1033 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: They write me off. But the motherfuckers found out that 1034 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: I can do this shit butt naked with none of 1035 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: that shit, and fuck all you niggas up lyrically. You 1036 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This is how I feel right 1037 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: and that's and that's what people know, you know, and 1038 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: know when they get on the song with me, they 1039 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: really got to go you know what I'm saying, not 1040 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: saying that you got to chop every time you You know, 1041 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: even though that's all people say me, they want to 1042 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: race me. I'm tired of racing motherfuckers. You know. They 1043 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: don't have to race me on songs. I can do 1044 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: hip hop shit. You know what I'm saying. 1045 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: We can. 1046 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: Me and Conway just did some shit for saying on 1047 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: my last album. 1048 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like, you know. 1049 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. But motherfuckers know now 1050 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: that I didn't need none of that ship. I don't 1051 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: need none of that ship. I don't need the mask. 1052 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't need none of that ship to go toe 1053 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: to toe lyrically with anybody in the industry. 1054 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 2: You know, yo, talk to me. You had another insane, 1055 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: like out of nowhere moment when you guys do this 1056 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 2: record with the Rock. Okay, and now the Rock has 1057 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: always been a supporter of your music. 1058 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: Since since Riot Maker. 1059 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 2: Yes, and he always is posting working out to tech 1060 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 2: stuff and shut the gate. Yeah, and and so it 1061 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 2: was so cool. You had to have written that verse, though, 1062 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: Did you write the verse? No, the Rocks verse? No? No, no? 1063 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 2: Does it sound like it sounded like you're paying. 1064 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna tell you how I went. I said, 1065 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: I got some words that I think will be good. 1066 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: It's about drive, it's about power, it's about you know. 1067 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: It was doing still like that. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, 1068 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: I want to go fast. He said, I want to 1069 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: say it's about drive, it's about power. He was stay, hunger, 1070 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: we devouring the work. I wouldn't I wouldn't have said 1071 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: what he said. I put in the work, put in 1072 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: the hours and take what's hours. That's all him. 1073 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1074 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: Like in some moment in my veins, I was just thinking, 1075 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: for sure, mother, that's him. 1076 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 2: Oh wow. So he put together if. 1077 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: You're that's me, just like, okay, you should put this 1078 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: right here. That's what the that's what the mass. I 1079 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: just helped him put the cadences together. You already had 1080 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: the words he did that ship man, that nigga know 1081 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: what he's doing. 1082 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 2: And that was you guys were in the studio together 1083 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 2: for that. No no, no, no no no. 1084 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: He's too busy for that. I did. I mean, I 1085 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: had him on his DM. I was like, hey, I 1086 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: think I found it because I met him out here. 1087 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: He wanted to meet me on his set of Ballers 1088 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: when he was out here with my people shining. You 1089 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They always trying to get me 1090 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: to do movies, and I feel like I'm too weird 1091 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: to act. And I've done a couple of things weird. 1092 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I might do that. 1093 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 2: You got to get that Rob Zombie shit cracking, man, 1094 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 2: you got you know what I'm. 1095 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: Saying, Like my horror brain and I let out out. 1096 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: They ain't never seen no ship like that. Jordan Peel 1097 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: all them up be like, what the fuck is wrong 1098 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: with nigga? But anyway, I met uh the Rock. Then 1099 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna find something. Then uh face off came. 1100 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: I said, uh in his DM, I said, hey, I 1101 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: think I found it. 1102 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 2: Man. 1103 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: He sent me his number, sent me his email all that. 1104 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was like, And then 1105 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: we start talking on the phone, and we start talking 1106 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: our way through it, and he said, this is what 1107 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: I want to say, and I just helped him, you know, 1108 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: put it in the right place. You know what I'm 1109 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: saying on that last part, You know what I mean, 1110 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,760 Speaker 1: that's all him, dude, He killed it, killed it yeah. 1111 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, and then and then the video. 1112 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,919 Speaker 1: I knew he could do it because Molana was out 1113 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: right and yeah, look at it, make it everything happened. 1114 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: Look at the but the top of but I'm like, oh, 1115 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, he could do this. He did the Malana City, 1116 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: He's he's Maui Mali can do this. So I knew 1117 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: he could do it. You know what I'm saying. When 1118 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: I said that, if you want to bring it to 1119 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: the massive, you know what I'm saying, then up there 1120 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: the booth, ascids whatever the he said. I knew he 1121 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: could do it. 1122 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 2: Man, you know what I'm saying, Yo, Can you talk 1123 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 2: to me because obviously, uh one of the most uh 1124 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 2: you know when we talk about West Coast goats, especially 1125 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 2: people who are underrated. As a guy, Mac Dre, who 1126 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 2: his life in Casey. Yes, you've obviously shouted him out 1127 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 2: a lot over the years and your music. What was 1128 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 2: your relationship like with mac Dre? Was it? Did you 1129 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 2: guys have a relationship when he was alive? I know 1130 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 2: he was in k C a lot. 1131 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: This is what my homie say. I was on big drugs. 1132 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: We was running a fucking strip club called Satin Dolls 1133 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: downtown van Brunt. You know what I'm saying. Uh, they 1134 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: said Mac Drake came in there and I was high, 1135 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: and I gave him his first thistles. I don't fucking know. 1136 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna claim that this man. 1137 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: Somebody says that my nigga said, nigga, you gave it 1138 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: to him, because I remember him coming in the club 1139 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: and I was like, he's like, man, yuh told me 1140 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: y'all was family. I'm like, he is, and that means 1141 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: you family too. Because he told him to me, I'm like, 1142 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, like this, you know what I'm saying. 1143 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: But I don't remember giving him no goddamn th I 1144 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: just knew I had sixty on me all the time. 1145 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had, I had, I 1146 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: had a hook up. It was the flower girl in there. 1147 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That she would front me 1148 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: the shit and not pay her later. You know what 1149 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sometimes I had three of them and I'd 1150 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 1: share them with the girls. I was like the house dad, nigga, 1151 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: I go in there and get everybody high. You know 1152 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was. That was back then when 1153 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: I was putting it on my tongue, Like take it 1154 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: off my tongue, baby. You know that kind of crazy times. 1155 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Crazy times for me. So 1156 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: they said my homies like Nigga, he came in the 1157 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: club that night and you gave him like Nigga, this 1158 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: is what we do. And he's like for real. I 1159 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: was like, I don't remember that sit at all. I 1160 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: don't remember that sit at all, but I remember meeting 1161 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: them in the club that sat and dolls, and you know, 1162 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: he came in shining, you know, and the thing that 1163 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: happened to him in case the negative thing. I was 1164 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: on tour and I was doing a Halloween show in 1165 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City that day when I found out, Wow, 1166 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: I called young Mouth immediately. I said, man, did he 1167 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 1: have kids? He said, yeah, you fucking had kids. 1168 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: Man. 1169 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, you know, And they said it was 1170 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: some street shit that happened over twenty thousand or something, right, 1171 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: he was getting for a show and they left. 1172 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1173 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: I wasn't there, man. 1174 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1175 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: And uh, I hate it for Kansas City because they 1176 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: love macdre. You would think he was from there. Man, 1177 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: When any of his goe stupid comes on or anything. 1178 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not my job. They 1179 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: play everything right. You know, everybody moves like Dre in 1180 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: the city. You know what I'm saying. If you and 1181 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: E forty because forty with mister Flamboyant opened up the 1182 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: floodgates for the bay to come in to Kansas City, 1183 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. To the Midwest, you know 1184 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But macdre Man, you know that that's 1185 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 1: his town as well. 1186 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: For sure. You I remember I don't know shit, ten 1187 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 2: plus years ago us having like talks about like you'd 1188 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 2: worked with everybody. Obviously the one like person that was 1189 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 2: still escaping the the tech feature was always eminem Speed 1190 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 2: him comes out right, which was crazy because you brought 1191 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: him to like literally brought him to your world. You've 1192 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: worked with Surge, which I know was another one of 1193 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 2: those ones. Right, is there anybody left that is there 1194 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 2: anything new that you thought like, all right, well, I've 1195 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 2: conquered all these dragons, I've had am all my shit. 1196 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 2: I've worked with Lingree three thousand, you had Surged, Hanky 1197 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 2: and opening up an album. 1198 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean it started the elite. That's started way back 1199 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: in the day, you know, saying with me and Ice Que. Yeah, 1200 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: I was on kimas Spice one and forty over and 1201 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 1: over and over. The elite shit that just started back 1202 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: in the day, you know, I'm saying. And then the 1203 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: new generation came, you know. 1204 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 2: So there's got to be some newer guy because you're 1205 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 2: a fan of this ship. So I know people don't know, 1206 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 2: like you'll like catch a flight to catch a concert 1207 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 2: just to go. Like people like, yo, I'm in Arizona 1208 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: right now. I'm here because I want to watch this concert. 1209 00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: I saw Travis Scott down there. I saw Chris Brown 1210 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: down there, I saw her, I saw Daniel Caesar down 1211 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: and my wife will come down to Arizona to go 1212 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: to them goddamn show. 1213 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 2: But what what is the what's thes what's the latest? 1214 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 2: The latest artist? You're like, man, that this would just 1215 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: be special, Like I really would love it. 1216 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: I tried to get j Cole on my last record 1217 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: on a song called I Met Morph. I was trying 1218 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: to get him on that one, and we couldn't find 1219 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: a way to get a response, you know what I'm saying. 1220 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: So that was one I wanted to cause, you know, 1221 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: he'd be, he'd be on motherfucker ship killing ship. I'm like, 1222 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: for sure he's come over, come over here and kill ship. 1223 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: Let's go, you know what I'm saying. And when did it? 1224 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: When did he get you know what I'm saying. I 1225 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: always wanted to do that. I always wanted some and 1226 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: this is some old ship. But when I say old ship, 1227 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean this is something I've always wanted, you know, 1228 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: Trent Reznor to do a track, you know what I'm saying. 1229 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 2: Of course I'm saying. 1230 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: I just I just did that one with Ronnie Radkey 1231 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: falling of Reverse to Ronald song Man, and that turned 1232 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: into a tour with us, you know what I mean, 1233 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: And that that was a big one for me because 1234 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, they killing ship, you know Ronnie. I was 1235 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: looking for Ronnie. The way I found Ronnie is when 1236 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: I was doing Bliss, I was looking for metal Choppers. 1237 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: I googled metal Choppers and he was at the top 1238 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: of the list. Then Kim Dracula right then it was 1239 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: like Suicide Boys after that and saying and uh then 1240 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: it was City Morgan Auto. But Ronnie was on the 1241 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: top of the list, so I hit him in his DM. 1242 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm a damn type of motherfucker. You know I'm saying, 1243 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: that's how I got Duran Bnar own my ship everything. Yeah, man, 1244 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: why not saying? But uh I hit him and he's like, man, 1245 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to work with you for the longest. 1246 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 2: Man. 1247 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 1: I sent him the song what I was gonna get 1248 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: him and Kim Dracula on it. Because Kim Dracula's from Australia. 1249 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1250 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: He's fucking crazy chopper. You know what I'm saying metal 1251 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: And uh, Ronnie said, I loved the song. Man, I 1252 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: just can't do it because I'm working on this huge album, 1253 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: but I want you to be on one. 1254 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 1255 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: Kim Dracula still did it, you know what I mean? 1256 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: And I was happy about that one. J Cole is one. 1257 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: Trent Reznor is one. Brittany from Alabama shakes. I love 1258 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: what she can do, you know what I'm saying vocally? 1259 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, I just love musicians, man. You know I 1260 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: got a song with Gary Clark Jr. You know, like 1261 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm so, I'm such a decorated m See. Man, 1262 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: that's what my next album is gonna be called. Its 1263 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna be called decorated and I've done it, and I 1264 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: got a weed song with Boys the Men, Dude, you 1265 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, called Buddha. You know a lot 1266 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: of people don't know. It's just went over people's heads 1267 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: on the Storm, you know. And you know, I think 1268 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: I think Gary Clark Jr. Is on that album as well. 1269 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: Marsha Ambroses Is on that album from a Flower Trees all. 1270 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 1: It's all over the spectrum, man. You know what I'm saying, 1271 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: like rock, new metal, metal, you know what I'm saying, 1272 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: slip knot. It's I'm so decorated that I only have 1273 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: a few people that I have left. You know what I'm saying. 1274 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Jay Z's one of them as well. 1275 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 2: It would be crazy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1276 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: I already got Kendrick, already got Jay Rock. You know 1277 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I still haven't done that feature for 1278 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: j I D. He sent me. 1279 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 2: Man, It's like J I D. Would be crazy. 1280 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: How many sent it to me, like around my birthday, 1281 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: like November seventh, And then I went on a run 1282 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: right after that and I got sick three times from 1283 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving all the way to the New Year. So I 1284 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do it because I didn't want 1285 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: to get about. 1286 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: To turn his album man if it's not already turned in. 1287 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 2: Oh man, he's crazy. 1288 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Because I'm just now letting up, you know what I'm saying. 1289 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: And I gotta I gotta hit him and say, am 1290 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I late? That was like almost five months ago? Yeah, 1291 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: I know I'm saying. 1292 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 2: I know he did like a little private listening for 1293 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: whatever this new project is, but maybe not. I mean 1294 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 2: there's no dat announced. As you know, there's always there's 1295 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: always time to get ship over finish line. 1296 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I got sick three times, man, and I couldn't 1297 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: get in the studio with him like that. 1298 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he wanted the race, right, He's one of them. 1299 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: He wanted to race, like oh you want to raise 1300 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Look here we go, you know, the day before my 1301 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: birthday and my birthday November eighties and the November seventh, 1302 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: and still haven't done it. Man. I'm like, damn, I 1303 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get that done for j I. 1304 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 2: D talk to me about like your guys' model. I 1305 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 2: just saw Travis just did an interview with King Court 1306 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: with the Whole Court podcast where he was kind of 1307 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: breaking down just kind of how things have changed since streaming, 1308 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: the streaming era, and how you know, obviously the lack 1309 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 2: of physical product in the marketplace. It's kind of you know, 1310 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 2: like you said, strangers always gonna find a way. You 1311 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 2: guys have always found a way to survive and evolve. 1312 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 2: But just the og like, when did you realize as 1313 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 2: a whether it was you or Travis or together, like, yo, 1314 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,959 Speaker 2: we gotta have like multiple Skew was on tour because 1315 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: I remember, man, when you used to I mean, I 1316 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 2: remember the first time I went to one of your shows, bro, 1317 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 2: a solo show. I was absolutely floored by the merch section. 1318 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's all travels right there. 1319 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: And I mean we're talking about Jersey's license plates. 1320 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: That's back then. That's back then when I had to 1321 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: okay everything. 1322 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: Now, I was like, I'm like, and then the other 1323 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 2: thing too. You would have the dude who would walk 1324 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 2: around with the box of CDs. 1325 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we have we have three CD sellers. 1326 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 2: In the hitting the line. Yeah, hey, you guys want 1327 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 2: to buy the see and and COVID for sure. And 1328 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 2: I think back to like, you know, obviously, I would 1329 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 2: say probably before in terms of taking advantage of the 1330 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 2: merch thing, I would say ICP was before you, guys. 1331 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 2: But in terms of perfecting that model of like cultivating 1332 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 2: your fan base into like a real core core that 1333 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 2: like physically can support you with what you might even 1334 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 2: have to have the album out, like hey guys, we're 1335 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 2: gonna do merch drop. I remember the jerseys great that 1336 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 2: the red case jersey with the nine and good. 1337 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: But I think, I think, I think surviving for twenty 1338 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: five years is a blessing to have the core that 1339 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: we can still sell physical product to, you know what 1340 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and and everything and merchandise. Our story is crazy, man, 1341 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: year after year, you know what I'm saying. So that's 1342 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: just that's just a blessing. We were able to keep 1343 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: all that, all those people with me evolving over the years, 1344 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: and people having something to draw from, Like your best 1345 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: album was Angelic, your best album was ever Ready. You 1346 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Special Effects was the last good album. 1347 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. People say, I love that, 1348 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 2: bro crazy, you know what I'm saying. 1349 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: So so you know they have something to draw from 1350 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: because we've been in it for twenty five years with 1351 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: strange music, you know what I mean. So if they 1352 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't have so much to draw from, they would probably 1353 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: like really respect all the new I'm dropping, you know 1354 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But people have their favorites because they'll 1355 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 1: attach nostalgia to it. 1356 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 2: Yes, the time of their life. 1357 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Yes, when this thing happened and Tech nine was there, 1358 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: kod O nine, that's when whoa he really hit that there? 1359 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: You know after that, he ain't had nothing good since. 1360 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, bullshit, right, you know what I mean. But 1361 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the fact that we've been able to keep all those 1362 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: people people's attention for these twenty five years, and we 1363 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: can call it the core, is a testament to great 1364 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 1: and good product. You know what I'm saying. 1365 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't get on the Forbes list without 1366 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that isn't just the music, right exactly. 1367 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is everything that comes with 1368 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: the experience. It's the tour merchandise, you know what I'm saying, 1369 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: the video game placements, the TV placements and everything. You know, 1370 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 1: it counts, and uh, I'm just you know, that's why 1371 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: lately I've been talking to Trav about directed consumer. 1372 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 2: Which I think is honestly the next It's kind of 1373 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 2: like things have to be be full circle event. We're 1374 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 2: talking to him about it since as nine because think 1375 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 2: about it, there's a I don't know if you've heard 1376 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 2: of a something called even Yes. Yeah, So there's a 1377 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 2: lot of artists who are doing that, right, Like Dizzey 1378 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 2: Wright did an album on there. It was like at 1379 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 2: the end of the day, like if you actually were 1380 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 2: to calculate even if you release an album for the 1381 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 2: first three months directed consumer. 1382 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, you know, That's what I'm 1383 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: talking about, Like, hey, let's let's get some money first. 1384 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 2: Because you got to look at I mean, thirty nine 1385 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 2: I think thirty nine hundred dollars is about a million streams. 1386 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 2: So if you do a million streams, it's like between 1387 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 2: like thirty seven and like four thousand dollars essentially. So 1388 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 2: when you start breaking down like some of the numbers, 1389 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 2: you're like, damn, Like we put so much into this shit, 1390 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 2: right and the streaming shit is really fucked I mean 1391 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 2: like it's it's really fucked up. 1392 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Like you got to get money off of you know, 1393 01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: the music is. 1394 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 2: We have no it's a it's a vessel to get 1395 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: to get other things, the other's things. Fuck that. 1396 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck that man, you know what I'm saying, Especially 1397 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: for fifty eight sixteen Forest a personal album like that. 1398 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to get that sit away for free, 1399 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: my nigga. 1400 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Also, like your fans would rather buy a piece of 1401 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 2: vinyl from you? 1402 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's coming to like hey sixteen, Hey, look, the 1403 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 1: first people who are going to hear this album are 1404 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna get it on CD and vinyl. Yeah, that's exactly 1405 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: what's happening. That's crazy that your mind's thinking that because 1406 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: Travis was on that already. 1407 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 2: Like you guys are going to get this piece of art. 1408 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Wait till the pre order drop, you gonna see. 1409 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 2: It, and then eventually you'll be able to put it 1410 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 2: up on you know, and you can watch the music 1411 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 2: videos on YouTube. 1412 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easier said than done when you were you know, 1413 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: connected to you know, a distribution and uses connected to 1414 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's Virgin. 1415 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: Now right right, and then they're like, well, it's a 1416 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 2: little bit harder to be like, well, we're gonna just 1417 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 2: crack this, crack our fans real quick and make sure 1418 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 2: they get first access. Well, you know, the business the 1419 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 2: business model of Virgin is like no, no, no, not. 1420 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: Their percentages are included in that right, So it's like, sorry, 1421 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: I just snored it. Their percentages are included and directed consumer. 1422 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like it seems like 1423 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: that everybody else would want to make more money, you 1424 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 1425 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 2: It would seem too as if there's an artist that 1426 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 2: is capable of fucking up the. 1427 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: The game, fucking the industry again, it'd be you. Yeah, 1428 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: you remember that. You remember that thing we had in 1429 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: two uh FTI. It was like fun the industry. 1430 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 2: You know. 1431 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: We did the commercial like download my album Absolute Power 1432 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 1: for free and if you like it, you know what 1433 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, support, We got that shit away for free, 1434 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 1: my nig and it worked. So here we are again. 1435 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Streaming is killing the industry. We're still afloat, by the 1436 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 1: grace of God. Now's the time. I think it's time 1437 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: to fuck the industry again. Man said and done. Though, 1438 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I know we got a lot of susts that are connected. 1439 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 2: And have you been paying attention to the Russell? 1440 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Of course he's on my last album. The Russell is 1441 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 1: like Russell and Stunnermento two. Shout to Russell, man, you 1442 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: know they moving. 1443 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 2: He's also got he's got this out. He thinks outside 1444 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 2: the box of everything and it's working for him. Yes, 1445 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, if you want to come see me, 1446 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 2: my show starts at two p m. Because I don't 1447 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 2: like being outside of night and you get to put 1448 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 2: a bit in on your ticket. 1449 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 1: He's on He's on COSM. We got a song called 1450 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: sour though. Okay, you know, but it's why while you 1451 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: sal while you so. I think he's the sneaker is. 1452 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 2: On the hook. He's done a good job of showing 1453 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 2: artists like, hey, like, you don't have to play by 1454 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 2: the rules you think you have to play by. 1455 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:48,600 Speaker 1: L Russell and Russ you know the same guy? Uh 1456 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: who did it? Who did it? Glorilla did it? You know, 1457 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: directing Consumer Lately. I think gn X was like that 1458 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: with Kendrick. 1459 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they man that just from a hip hop fan perspective, 1460 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 2: you had to have loved the last year of hip hop. 1461 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean because the Kendrick Drake beef brought out. I mean, 1462 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 2: however you feel about the results, I mean, we know 1463 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 2: who won, but uh, just it was just good to 1464 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: see like people dissecting bars, like. 1465 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Really good on that and in that aspect, you know 1466 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying the hip hop energy that was brought 1467 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 1: forth by that beef. What I worry about is the 1468 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: street element of it all. And that's why I put 1469 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 1: out no popcorn. I don't have no popcorn emojis because 1470 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I know we're all gang members, right, you know what 1471 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And Uh, you can't control the. 1472 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 2: Entourage, you can't control the Philly, the family. 1473 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: The fanaticis yeah, you know what I'm saying. And when 1474 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Drake's house got shot at, you know what I'm here 1475 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: comes That's what I didn't want. You know what I'm saying. 1476 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: I don't I want to. I wanted to. I want 1477 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: to keep it in the spirit of hip hop. Would 1478 01:09:55,320 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: have done what it did, uh for it positively. But 1479 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 1: we have to keep our eye on the street element 1480 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 1: because it comes with us. You know what I'm saying. 1481 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: So so far, so good, so far, so good. 1482 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:09,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1483 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I was talking to day Free the other day with 1484 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: a og muggs. He had him on three Way, and 1485 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I said, I think y'all gonna be really good in Toronto, man, 1486 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's like, oh yeah, man, 1487 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: they come out in Toronto, man, is wonderful. I think 1488 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,839 Speaker 1: I think y'all gonna be good, and I would expect 1489 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Drake to. 1490 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Be okay in two stadium shows. Yeah, I know, two 1491 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 2: stadium shows in Toronto. 1492 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I know. 1493 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 1494 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: I think they think they're gonna be good. You know 1495 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1496 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: And I think Drake is in LA enough to be like. 1497 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 1: He shouldn't be good here? Yeah, man, he better be man, 1498 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, with the 1499 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,719 Speaker 1: street element, man, you just never they take it beyond. 1500 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: We've always took it beyond. Because this is my theory 1501 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: on it. If you say something negative about technolo on 1502 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: the record, that means you're now in the spirit of 1503 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: hip hop. I get it. But that means you're trying 1504 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,759 Speaker 1: to take food out of my family's mouth, my nigga. 1505 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a problem. You know what I'm saying. Now, 1506 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I've been in battles and I haven't lost. I've never lost, 1507 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, and that it has 1508 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: never gotten so personal that you couldn't shooting at each 1509 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: other or fighting in the club waiting about to have 1510 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: that shit in casey, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, 1511 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 1: But with that street element. You're trying to take food 1512 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 1: and money away from me by turning people away from me. Nigga, 1513 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: I got something for you. That's what I don't want. 1514 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's like you said that you can't 1515 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: control somebody who's young, who's affiliated, who wants to prove 1516 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 2: himself right right right, that you aren't even you might 1517 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 2: not even we didn't even send it. 1518 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 1: We didn't even send it. 1519 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 2: We didn't even know this was gonna happen. And then 1520 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 2: there's also insane fans like people. 1521 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Might say Tech nine's name, I would never send it. 1522 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: They send it to themselves because I have followers. 1523 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you you're you're you're inviting certain energy to your yea, 1524 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 2: to your So. 1525 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: The thing when it happened with ICP, that's me and 1526 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Joe Bruce talked about. 1527 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, yeah, he talked about it. 1528 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 1: We don't want to we don't want to turn this 1529 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 1: into something. We just had a we we had a 1530 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 1: really good two hour talk when the ship was happening, 1531 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: when I was getting death threats from a few juggalos, 1532 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: we had like a two hour talk and it was 1533 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 1: like a history lesson from Tech nine from Kansas City 1534 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 1: what started the killer clown and all this kind of 1535 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 1: thing because they was under the impressing that I got 1536 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: it from them, and I'm like, I was the clown 1537 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: in ninety four, you know what I'm saying, And I 1538 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: have to tell them all that, and uh, but they 1539 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: did show us a lot of shit on that tour No. 1540 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: Three that we had to up our game and merch 1541 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,200 Speaker 1: and everything, and their stage show was fucking I just 1542 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: saw them performing the other day and it's still crazy 1543 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 1: for sure. 1544 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have this energy about thinking about them shooting 1545 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 2: two leaders of FA go into the crowd. 1546 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Oh they're still doing that. They're still doing that. They're 1547 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: still doing that. And it's like me and Joe Bruce 1548 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 1: talked about that, about the history and what I learned, 1549 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 1: and you know, we got to clear about the gang element. 1550 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't want it to bleed into this, you know 1551 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because whether they know it or not, 1552 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, The Clowns, the Juggalos are 1553 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 1: not a gang, but people look at them as a gang, 1554 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's all over the world too. Sure, 1555 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: it's in Australia, it's in the UK, Juggalos are everywhere 1556 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and they come show love my nigga and like they 1557 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:25,560 Speaker 1: always have. 1558 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go to a tech show, you're gonna 1559 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 2: se Juggles of course, of course, and a lot of 1560 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 2: people have strange and hatchet Man tattooed yes sir, yes, sir. 1561 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 1: So we talked about the gang element that I didn't 1562 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: want to bleed over into that. And they came to 1563 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,719 Speaker 1: my show in Detroit and they introduced me and everything 1564 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 1: and it was good, you know what I mean. After 1565 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: after they did your show, I did a song what 1566 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 1: was it called? I forgot what it was called. And I 1567 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: was talking telling people that I'm not upset and what 1568 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 1: they were saying on the show. You know what I'm saying. 1569 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, they didn't say nothing wrong, but you know 1570 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, It's like the face paint thing was unclear, 1571 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And they didn't know that. 1572 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 1: When I was on that tour, I only had my 1573 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: guy doing words across my head, you know what I'm saying. 1574 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 1: But before that, I had Brian Bezel Dennis in ninety 1575 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: four doing my full skull face, right, you know what 1576 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't know nothing about dark loadus and 1577 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: none of that shit I'm talking about when I did 1578 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 1: when I did the show and Lawrence Kansas with the 1579 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: luminous paint on my face and the black cross across 1580 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: my face. You know what I'm saying, lights cut off 1581 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: you could see just across on my face. I didn't 1582 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 1: know nothing about dark Lotus back then. That's what they did. 1583 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 1: And it's like those were in That was in the 1584 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: early nineties, you know what I mean, and shit like that. 1585 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 1: So we had to talk about all that, you know 1586 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, because we had similarities when it come 1587 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: to face paint and all that kind of shit. And 1588 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 1: I was trying to say that I've never been a bier. 1589 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I've always been an innovator. I've always you know, saw 1590 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,599 Speaker 1: things that y'all did and purposely didn't want to try 1591 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: to mimic it, right because that's their thing. I would 1592 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 1: never get up there and have clowns come out and 1593 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: throw feyo or nothing, you know what I'm saying. Even 1594 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: though I'm the killer clown, I do mine in a 1595 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: different way, you know what I mean. So I talked 1596 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: about that gang element and we got that shit straight early. 1597 01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:24,599 Speaker 2: Man. 1598 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and then it didn't it 1599 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 1: didn't keep going. 1600 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, I feel like like trying to split 1601 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 2: up your guys's fans, is that insane because there are 1602 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 2: a lot of the same people. 1603 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. 1604 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 2: It's gotta be wild too, because you've like we're talking 1605 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 2: about twenty five years of strange music at this point 1606 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: in time. Like there's people probably with Tech nine tattoos 1607 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 2: that are like fucking teachers, Dennis. Yeah, Like there's like 1608 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 2: technicians that are like probably in high places that you 1609 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,920 Speaker 2: would even do unless they took their shirt off. 1610 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 1: Man, they approached me and people that I don't think 1611 01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna come up with me and say anything about 1612 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: techno tuned in for twenty years, I'm like, holy shit, right, 1613 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Tech nine always felt like fight club, you know what 1614 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: I mean. Like you go into the restaurant and all 1615 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 1: the people with all the cooks, all the servers, they 1616 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: gnawed at you, you know what I'm saying. But all 1617 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 1: the rich people, you know, they don't know what the 1618 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: is going on until at the end when I'm taking 1619 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 1: pictures with everybody, like who are you again? You know, 1620 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 1: it's fight club thing. 1621 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, yo talk about obviously, you know, 1622 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 2: for people who don't know, Save Me was a record 1623 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 2: that came out under Strange Music's distro. Shout to our 1624 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,320 Speaker 2: brother Jelly Roll, who is one of the biggest stars 1625 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 2: on the planet these days. You know, he's had a 1626 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 2: crazy journey through musical You know, I think back to 1627 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 2: damn like him opening up FORCP on tour. I mean, 1628 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,719 Speaker 2: he really was an actual underground rap like rappers, like really, 1629 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's the human talking about subculture like he 1630 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 2: came from that kind of like yes, that subculture of 1631 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 2: like Ritz and Wolf and Haystack, and he was he 1632 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 2: was really in the streets and for sure, but what 1633 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 2: what what what I mean? Obviously you guys also have 1634 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 2: a platinum record together at this point, we do a creature. 1635 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 2: Creature is platinum? Yeah? How cool has it been? Just 1636 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 2: as somebody who knows Jelly and and and it's obviously 1637 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 2: broken bread with him. 1638 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: But just it couldn't happen to a better person. It 1639 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,639 Speaker 1: couldn't happened to a better person. And he's so thankful 1640 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,760 Speaker 1: it couldn't happen to a better person. He's always been 1641 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 1: stand up cat you know what I mean, him and 1642 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 1: Travis going back and forth because he didn't want to 1643 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 1: release save Me, you know, to his fans, because he 1644 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 1: thought that they would be making fun of him because 1645 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: he's singing. I'm like, dude, your singing voice like we 1646 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 1: did Easier for you, ef you man, I'm like, when 1647 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 1: he sang on that easy up for you, I'm like, dude, 1648 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 1: your singing voice is crazy, though, you know what I'm saying. 1649 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: And then save Me. 1650 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 2: Took over. It's just one of those beautiful songs ever. 1651 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Eminem just reused it, you know what I'm saying. 1652 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 2: In fact, Eminem sampled the song that was like five 1653 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 2: years old. 1654 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, so crazy man, But it couldn't happen to a 1655 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: better human being. 1656 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's dope to just see. Like I'm like, 1657 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 2: that's why I try to tell people. I'm like, if 1658 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 2: you knew Jelly, because I would always tell Jelly the 1659 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 2: same shit. I'd be like, brother, Like as soon as 1660 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 2: people just like get to anybody who knows Jelly, when 1661 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 2: back then, it would just take people to meet him 1662 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 2: and they'd be like, y'all love this guy. I might 1663 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,519 Speaker 2: not know him, but I just love this fucking guy, 1664 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 2: and it was almost like the world went through that 1665 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 2: experience himself. 1666 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: He don't have to put on a mask or anything. 1667 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't mean like a 1668 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,560 Speaker 1: mask to put on them somebody, like a fake persona. 1669 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because my mask was really 1670 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,400 Speaker 1: going on inside. You know what I'm saying. But he 1671 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have to put on a fake persona to be 1672 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 1: jelly roll. He's jelly roll everywhere, you know what I mean. 1673 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,640 Speaker 1: And people love that authenticity, authenticity, and it's gonna be 1674 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 1: him and until he's ready to say bucket. 1675 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, you mentioned earlier. Certain fans will 1676 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 2: like point some of your older albums. If you in 1677 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 2: your estimation, let's take the new album coming out out 1678 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 2: of the equation, what would you what would you say 1679 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,600 Speaker 2: is your best album? I'm sure it changes for you 1680 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 2: all the time. 1681 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: They are all my babies, man, tell them this all 1682 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 1: the time. They are all my babies, from Angelic to 1683 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Absolute Power to the vintage Tech too. You know what 1684 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Ever ready to all sixes and sevens to 1685 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: I got so many, man, It's like I'm on album 1686 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 1: like twenty five or twenty six right now. 1687 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 2: That's insane. 1688 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I think ever Ready was the turning point. You know 1689 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, we was out here, Bias One 1690 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 1: was giving me beats and we were all, that's Richie 1691 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Abbit over there. You know what I'm saying is that 1692 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at yeah out here. I took so many turns. 1693 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,640 Speaker 1: You know what. I realized that y'all gave me a 1694 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Jay Dilla CD back then that I don't I remember 1695 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 1: seeing that. I never really got into it. And then 1696 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,240 Speaker 1: years later I realized that I dropped that ball I'm 1697 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 1: talking about. We was doing ever Ready. They was giving 1698 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 1: me you. 1699 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 2: Had his Diller Beat CD full of them. 1700 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 1: That's crazy, And I'm like, you know, buys One, like 1701 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: you need to check out this dealer guy. I'm like, okay, whatever. 1702 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Caribou's on ever Ready right. 1703 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,839 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, care Blue come Gangs come Gangster, right Baker. 1704 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The rain, Yeah, that was 1705 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 1: the turning point when we got with When we got 1706 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 1: with Fontana, that turned into Ingrows that we're with now. 1707 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Uh, that was a turning point. 1708 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Ever Ready, that's a big one. Rick Rock is on 1709 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: there you know what I'm saying with my wife, my bitch, 1710 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,840 Speaker 1: my girl and no can do you know? Rick Rock 1711 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,640 Speaker 1: just came through and just dropped some barrier shit on us. 1712 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like for real, for real, man, 1713 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 1: ever Ready was the turning point for Tech nine to 1714 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,759 Speaker 1: get really really massive. 1715 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like Everready has, especially if you like, 1716 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if you go to one of your shows, 1717 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 2: it's like there's like there's certain songs I've noticed you 1718 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,960 Speaker 2: like move in and out of the set list, like 1719 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 2: like like, yeah, it was one of my favorite songs, 1720 01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 2: but I haven't heard like you do, Like yeah for 1721 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 2: some I have years, but like that album has got 1722 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,560 Speaker 2: like they ain't going nowhere in the set list, you 1723 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah? 1724 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,599 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, Man, ever Ready, I would say every Ready 1725 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 1: as the turning point. It's not my I can't say 1726 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 1: it's my best album. 1727 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 2: What do you think is your best? Though? 1728 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,639 Speaker 1: I don't think I think they're all the best. My nigga, 1729 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Have you heard Frank Hellic Angelic come on? 1730 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Man? 1731 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 1: For sure Angelic Tormented from Tormented to the song with 1732 01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: Roger Trappman at the end. You know what I'm saying, Twisted, 1733 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like angelic is you 1734 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: don't skip it. You know what I'm saying, you can't 1735 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 1: skip it. Absolute power industry is punks to whatever. This 1736 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: is me or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Do 1737 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 1: you remember, Uh No, that's not that's ever ready, this 1738 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 1: is me. 1739 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Do you remember you're recording stamina in the 1740 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:47,719 Speaker 2: in the studio. 1741 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. 1742 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:49,919 Speaker 2: You want to hear this story. 1743 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 1: So I've always had stamina in my mind. You know 1744 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to shoot, I want to 1745 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 1: wrap to a gun. You know what I'm saying. So 1746 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 1: me and don Wan's in his basement and he sets 1747 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: the m p C three thousand or yea to this swing. 1748 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of like the way you make me feel like, uh, 1749 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson stamina. I'll be damn if I ever be 1750 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,800 Speaker 1: took away by the demons. I'll never be what the 1751 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,680 Speaker 1: weather win. That was the rhythm I come with the 1752 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: heater cleverly Nigga went out and will never be so 1753 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 1: killer Flow Zilla Gorilla and Flow was a fella meee, 1754 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: I'll be in the line Hella doing time for the 1755 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,559 Speaker 1: Tech nine is so he said, you got to play 1756 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 1: it because you know what, I'm like, pop up up. 1757 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 1: I did it. So I told the one I got 1758 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,519 Speaker 1: on the I got on the mic. I said, okay, 1759 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 1: now speed it up. Stemina Stamina. I said, keep going, Stamena. 1760 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 1: And when he got into the first perfect pitch, I 1761 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 1: was like, Stemina, I'll be done. Ever be took away 1762 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 1: by the demons that never be what. The weather went, 1763 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 1: hythm come with the heat cover leaue nigga noo, the 1764 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 1: one ever be so killer. If I was a fell 1765 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,400 Speaker 1: I began to lie doing time for the now you 1766 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's like, what the fuck? Yeah? 1767 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I did that Ship of the Road Dogs. We had 1768 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 1: this album. We had this song I'll call Let's get 1769 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: fucked Up. It's fucking the town up. So def Jammer 1770 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 1: came to Kansas City at this place called it wasn't 1771 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,519 Speaker 1: called uh this name at the time, this club. I 1772 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 1: forgot what it is, you know, since down there on 1773 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: the East side where the Essays are, and they had 1774 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,800 Speaker 1: they had this thing that was like a not a 1775 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 1: talent show, but a industry party where people will be showcasing, 1776 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,760 Speaker 1: saying a showcasing. And me and Roddargs went down there. 1777 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,679 Speaker 1: I remember, I just came out here from QD three 1778 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 1: and I did a photo shooting. I had that ship on. 1779 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had my special boots on, 1780 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 1: my Kenneth Cold boots on, and all them niggas was 1781 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 1: dressed in their bloodshit. You know what I'm saying. I 1782 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 1: came out there and I started out and I Chris 1783 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Callico said, he was in the crowd. It was Boulevard Knights. 1784 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,680 Speaker 1: Now this's the club. That's what I just thought about it. 1785 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Boulevard Knights called that. Now it's called something that then. 1786 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: Back then something was back then. I did that ship, 1787 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,639 Speaker 1: Chris Callico said. When I was in that crowd, man, 1788 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 1: when you first did Stamina and that whole place went up. 1789 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 1: When I did it first live, when I said Tech 1790 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 1: nine and the whole place stood up, I just fell 1791 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:14,519 Speaker 1: out laughing. 1792 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 2: Did you always do the head cock? Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, 1793 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 2: yeah yes, because you have certain songs, you have, you 1794 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,479 Speaker 2: have your like. I wouldn't necessarily choreography, but you have 1795 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 2: your like, your moves, you record. 1796 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had don Wan put the cock click clack, 1797 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,559 Speaker 1: stamming up. You know what I'm saying that Tech nine, 1798 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, I knew exactly how I was gonna do it. 1799 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 1: I had it in my head and uh, next thing, 1800 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, I did it at this place called Maniacs 1801 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 1: and Independence Man and it fucked everybody up. I think 1802 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: Twister was there or something like that, and fuck everybody up. 1803 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 1: And I was doing I was doing that Einstein and 1804 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 1: let's get fucked up with the planet Rock with the 1805 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 1: rogue Dogs, you know what I'm saying. And Uh, I 1806 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 1: just knew I had some special with stamina, so I 1807 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 1: left it back there in the nineties. Now, recently, I 1808 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: did a song called RDV on my new album fifty 1809 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,920 Speaker 1: A sixteen fours. We just put out videos out the 1810 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 1: videos out, so I thought, at the end of the song, 1811 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:15,600 Speaker 1: when I'm talking about giving a salute to some of 1812 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 1: the rogue Dog villains that were not with us anymore 1813 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 1: and the ones that are still here, I thought I'd 1814 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 1: give a salute to my soldiers. I thought it was 1815 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 1: worthy of medalling back that, I mean, dialing up that 1816 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 1: stamming a style and yelling out all the names. And 1817 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 1: it's effective. Still I still I did it again. This 1818 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,240 Speaker 1: time me and Bengineer did it and we didn't have 1819 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,679 Speaker 1: to use the MPC three thousand. You know what I'm saying. 1820 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,680 Speaker 1: It's like, Ben, let me going there on a metronome 1821 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,680 Speaker 1: and do that shit. Sippy Bigs are a picture star, 1822 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,800 Speaker 1: demmit star, Williama? Send this League one John John, Michael 1823 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: werber TONI D, Tony Kennedy, Doctor Bob, Marty, Duken, Fly Mac. 1824 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1825 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 2: M hm. 1826 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, just on those names, put the put that 1827 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 1: AK forty seven sound, you know what I'm saying, or 1828 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,760 Speaker 1: the sk sound on top of it. You know what 1829 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just as effective as it was in 1830 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:13,919 Speaker 1: the nineties. 1831 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy because it's like one of those moments 1832 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 2: in your live show that like it doesn't take up 1833 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 2: a lot of space, but it's so like like again, 1834 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:23,640 Speaker 2: if you don't know Tech nine and you go and 1835 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 2: see you see do you do that? You're like, did 1836 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:25,679 Speaker 2: this motherfucker? 1837 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 1: Just yeah? 1838 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 2: Wrap over a machine gun. 1839 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: For a long time, I was doing it at the beginning. 1840 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,800 Speaker 1: Now I've been doing it at the end a lot lately. 1841 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,360 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of my show, you know, boom. 1842 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 1: But when I did the show with when I did 1843 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 1: this tour with Falling in Reverse and Blackveilt Brides and 1844 01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 1: all the other guys that are on the tour, Dance, 1845 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Gavin Dance. I felt like this was a new crowd, 1846 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:52,720 Speaker 1: so I put it at the beginning. 1847 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,719 Speaker 2: Right and let them just to just to be like, hey, yeah, 1848 01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 2: you pay attention. 1849 01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 1: I had. I took it all the way back to 1850 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,400 Speaker 1: O two when I was on the ICP tour with 1851 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,760 Speaker 1: the high top boxing shoes, you know what I'm saying, 1852 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 1: and all that kind of shit. I brought that back 1853 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 1: with the scrubs and uh, I had stamina at the 1854 01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,320 Speaker 1: beginning right into industry as punks like I used to do, 1855 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 1: and it fucked them up. And I had my band 1856 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 1: with me playing that shit. Yo. 1857 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,639 Speaker 2: You you mentioned your album number twenty five, twenty six, 1858 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. There's been a trend going on 1859 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 2: in music recently where a lot of people's catalogs are 1860 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 2: getting bought. Oh yeah, have you and Trav ever considered 1861 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 2: listening to those convos? 1862 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: No, not now, because when it comes time to sell, 1863 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,760 Speaker 1: we want to have something in the selle. You know 1864 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When we if we ever sell strange music, right, 1865 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We've we've done a deal 1866 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 1: with the. 1867 01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 2: Streaming side, right, you know what I'm saying. 1868 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 1: But other than that, all the pub listening, everything, all hours, 1869 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, other than that, man, no, man, 1870 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 1: we just steady building. 1871 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 2: What was the catalyst that implemented? Because I always talk 1872 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 2: about this on the show with certain artists, I bring 1873 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 2: up your guys's the tour regimen is pretty wild, but 1874 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:23,679 Speaker 2: specifically the rules. Yes, you guys will find people, Yes 1875 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 2: they break the rules. It's it's it's very like it's 1876 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 2: a professional setting. But it wasn't always that way. What 1877 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,599 Speaker 2: what happened was it was it? What was the thing 1878 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 2: that kind of was the turning point where you said, hey, 1879 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 2: maybe it was a Travis thing, but hey, we're not 1880 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 2: fucking around here anymore. It's too much to lose. 1881 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 1: This is the rules with any rule system, the fuck 1882 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 1: ups have to happen first. 1883 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1884 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,680 Speaker 1: So if MGK is having food fights at you know, 1885 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 1: saying the buffet spot, Oh. 1886 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys had MGK during his wild really literally 1887 01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 2: like let me. 1888 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 1: Just fuck up a hotel room. Yeah, it's real. It 1889 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,680 Speaker 1: was real for sure. I'm talking about Golden Corral. They 1890 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,759 Speaker 1: kicked us out, we were banned from all golden corrals 1891 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 1: around the Midwest. 1892 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 2: Crazy because so was an MGK that started the rule book. 1893 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:14,879 Speaker 2: Was he the inspiration? 1894 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: He got a lot in the rule book? The rule 1895 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 1: book started before him. 1896 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,560 Speaker 2: Okay, but but there's like you can point to the 1897 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,440 Speaker 2: rules now and be like, don't. 1898 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Climb and trust, don't don't don't do this, don't throw food, 1899 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,799 Speaker 1: don't fucking tear up, don't fucking paint the motherfucking venue walls. 1900 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 1: It's all mg K, you know what I'm saying. But 1901 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 1: everything that Me and Cut did not Chris Calico, because 1902 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 1: he's always been the same, right, everything that Me and 1903 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:46,639 Speaker 1: Cut did, you know, like fucking fat bitches and ship 1904 01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 1: and then they sit on the toilet and break the 1905 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 1: toilet and all the water goes everywhere and floods all 1906 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 1: the fucking you know what I'm saying, all that ship, 1907 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:56,599 Speaker 1: and we got to pay for all this and all 1908 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 1: that ship. It don't have don't fuck fat bitches. In 1909 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 1: the then rule book, it's just saying, be careful what 1910 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,880 Speaker 1: you do in the rooms, because we have to pay 1911 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 1: for everything to mess up, you know what I'm saying. 1912 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 1: But all the ship that we did over the years, 1913 01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, don't have sex in the bathroom on the 1914 01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 1: bus because you're gonna break the sink. You know, stuff 1915 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 1: that happened, you know what I'm saying. So with any 1916 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 1: rule system, we had to do all that fucking up 1917 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,280 Speaker 1: to get all that in there. 1918 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember when Dizzey Wright was on tour 1919 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 2: with you guys meet and him would be talking and 1920 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 2: he'd be like, I'm just getting fine every day, man, 1921 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,240 Speaker 2: because I got to smoke, right, because I can'tnot smoke. 1922 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, you can smoke, you just can't smoke on the bus, 1923 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,360 Speaker 1: right on the bus right sometimes on the premises they 1924 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,720 Speaker 1: don't want you to smoke. So, you know, because if 1925 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 1: you break the rules, you can find yes, you do, yes, 1926 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, it'll start low and then they'll go up 1927 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: to five hundred dollars if you do this. If you 1928 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 1: if you transport fans from one city to another to another, 1929 01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:52,559 Speaker 1: you know you can't do that. 1930 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 2: That's it. That's like what you call that ship, you 1931 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,360 Speaker 2: know that they'll call that something. Yeah, they call nowadays 1932 01:30:58,400 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 2: it's human trafficking. 1933 01:30:59,240 --> 01:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's trafficking. 1934 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you if you fly a girl out 1935 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 2: for the intent of sex, it's human trafficking, even if 1936 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 2: it's weird. Well, yeah, there are like some of these things, 1937 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 2: like obviously Diddy is a piece of shit, but some 1938 01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 2: of the things are saying did he did? I'm like, well, 1939 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 2: like ninety eight percent of every rapper and hip hop 1940 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 2: has flown a check out and gave her some money. 1941 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:25,559 Speaker 2: The fuck I ain't, not necessarily, not directly, but like, yeah, 1942 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,880 Speaker 2: let's go shopping, let's go, let's go get dinner. Ye, 1943 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 2: let me pay for the fly. 1944 01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're you're indirectly Pavel. 1945 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 2: But for sure, Yo, there's so many of your records 1946 01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,040 Speaker 2: because I know you're such a huge fan of horror movies. 1947 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,920 Speaker 2: You are a horror movie buff. Yes, yes, what's your 1948 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 2: what's your goat? But like, what's you likely your top 1949 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,479 Speaker 2: three or four hor horror movies of all time? 1950 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm the lyrical Michael Myers man, everybody know that. 1951 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So it's Halloween, do you, fellow? 1952 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,439 Speaker 2: Did you love the rob Zombie Halloweens? Of course I 1953 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 2: loved them. Yeah, I own all of I know that 1954 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,480 Speaker 2: they're very like ow all of I think they're polarizing 1955 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,640 Speaker 2: for some people. Yeah, on all of what do you 1956 01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:58,439 Speaker 2: think about terrifier. 1957 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 1: I love terrifier. I love art. Now, you know, I've 1958 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 1: seen all of them. I saw the three hour one, 1959 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:03,680 Speaker 1: me and my wife. You know what I'm saying. 1960 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, the new one was pretty crazy. It's like Christmas 1961 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 2: movie people. 1962 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, people were leaving out. You know what I'm saying. 1963 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 1: People were leaving out. We were we were on rooms laughing. 1964 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,600 Speaker 2: But I feel like some of your records could be 1965 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 2: horror movie Csycho Bitch. 1966 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. I hear. A lot of 1967 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,960 Speaker 1: people say that I'm a horror core a rapper, but 1968 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,799 Speaker 1: they don't know. I've never looked at myself as. 1969 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 2: A horror core I don't think you're that at all, 1970 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 2: you know. 1971 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:26,720 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. But a lot of people think that 1972 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 1: because of my darkness. You know what I'm saying. My 1973 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 1: darkness is my life. Psycho Bitch is real stories, right, 1974 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,519 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when you get into 1975 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 1: ko D, that's when the lines get blurred because I 1976 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,120 Speaker 1: got things on there like black in the Sun. That's 1977 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,679 Speaker 1: my imagination and they will put that in the horror 1978 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 1: core bracket, I think. But I've never looked at myself 1979 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:49,439 Speaker 1: as a shock horror core MC. I've just I've always 1980 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:55,560 Speaker 1: been infatuated with the darkness, per my Christian mom, Marty Soyer's. 1981 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 2: Khalifa, And if you listen to KOD, it was was 1982 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 2: show me a God kicking that off. 1983 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Yes, show me a guy. Yes, but all that shit 1984 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 1: is dark. But it's my life. I've always wrote my life. 1985 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,720 Speaker 1: I didn't ever have to say things to really shock anybody, 1986 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,439 Speaker 1: but I've done it in my career to where I 1987 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 1: talk about nipples and noodles and ship this in my mine. 1988 01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I'm a horror fan, 1989 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, but I've never looked at myself in that 1990 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:26,920 Speaker 1: horror genre like Grave Diggers or when it when WU 1991 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Tang them did it Netcrow? I don't really know if 1992 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Neckro did that all really know? 1993 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,519 Speaker 2: But no, yeah, but Grave Diggers with Prince Paul and Rizza, Yeah. 1994 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying, 1995 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,720 Speaker 1: flatliners and all the mothers I've never done. I never 1996 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:41,599 Speaker 1: aspire to be that. 1997 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like KOD was like, if you're in 1998 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,280 Speaker 2: a dark place because of what you're going through with 1999 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 2: your with your mind, like you're going to create a 2000 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 2: dark So. 2001 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,599 Speaker 1: With the face paint and the Bishops Robe. They thought 2002 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 1: horror core, you know what I'm saying, And that's what 2003 01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 1: people were like. 2004 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Like you're such a visionary, like at 2005 01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,599 Speaker 2: a certain point in time, like I can see you 2006 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,560 Speaker 2: like executive, Like I don't know if it's directing or 2007 01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 2: executive producing horror movies or or just getting into like 2008 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,160 Speaker 2: flashing out some of these ideas you have. 2009 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I got with Joseph Bashara. He's the composer for you know, 2010 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:21,000 Speaker 1: the music for the Conjuring, for Annabelle, for Insidious, he's 2011 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,720 Speaker 1: the Red Devil and Insidious. Joseph We've worked a couple 2012 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,719 Speaker 1: of times on music and I, you know, would Rob Pryor. 2013 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,760 Speaker 1: I've built with him, you know, on images coming out 2014 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 1: of my head. You know, he's a comic book artist, 2015 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, one of the best. I've 2016 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 1: talked to him about getting stuff out of my head, 2017 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,280 Speaker 1: and he's drawn things are creatures that come out of 2018 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,560 Speaker 1: my head, and we got it in our books and 2019 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,560 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I haven't done it on a 2020 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:52,360 Speaker 1: level to where I took time to stop touring with 2021 01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 1: Tech nine and writing albums commitment. That's a big commitment 2022 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 1: to do movies. You know what I mean. You know, 2023 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,760 Speaker 1: acting feels weird to me. I've done a few. I've 2024 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,880 Speaker 1: done The Devil's Carnival with Darren Bousman, you know what 2025 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I've done one back in the day 2026 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:15,720 Speaker 1: with Denny Treyo called Vengeance. You know. I've done the 2027 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Life of Lucky Cucumber with the Jackass Dudes. You know 2028 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But every time I've done it, people 2029 01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 1: say I do it well, but I feel weird. I 2030 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,639 Speaker 1: feel weird trying to be somebody else, and I feel 2031 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:30,960 Speaker 1: comfortable doing music though. 2032 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2033 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: So directing out of the comfort zone. No, no, No, directing 2034 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:37,519 Speaker 1: is good, but acting, no. 2035 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I would say, yeah, I 2036 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 2: mean I think like, I just feel like, if you 2037 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,479 Speaker 2: know you have the you have it in you to 2038 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:46,800 Speaker 2: do it. Yes, I do, Yes, I do. 2039 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 1: I just I just wrote seventeen episodes for my audio 2040 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,400 Speaker 1: series fifty sixteen four US, so it's going in that direction. 2041 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, man, did you ever really let 2042 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 2: a stripper burn you on the arm with a cigarette? 2043 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 2: Look at it? That's okay, Look at that, man. 2044 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,720 Speaker 1: That's that's a cigarette. Ten times in a row. If 2045 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:11,200 Speaker 1: you see me, do uh am? I psycho on stage? 2046 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,360 Speaker 1: On stage, I'm holding my mic and I'm pointing at it. 2047 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,080 Speaker 1: Why do I let the stripper burn me on my 2048 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 1: arm with a cigarette and the saint about ten times 2049 01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 1: on the road. And I feel that when I feel 2050 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:23,040 Speaker 1: that burner, palm could arrest I'm gonna yeah, yeah, it's 2051 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,679 Speaker 1: right there. That was in my high day that night. 2052 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,720 Speaker 1: Like it's like a couple It happened a couple of 2053 01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: times right there. Happened a couple of times. Then the 2054 01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,200 Speaker 1: room I realized it was damaging my beautiful skin. Yeah, 2055 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,120 Speaker 1: no ship and I'm like, I can't. I gotta stop this. Yeah, 2056 01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, I was on big XD back then, big shrooms, 2057 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,320 Speaker 1: big g hb out of all. You know what I'm 2058 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 1: saying all the one time, you know what I'm saying, 2059 01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,240 Speaker 1: liquor everything all at once. I'm still here. That's crazy. 2060 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm still here. 2061 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,639 Speaker 2: Thank god. You you weren't You weren't on those runs 2062 01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 2: when Fetanah was so prevalent. 2063 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I never. I never putting none. 2064 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 2: I know back then. Though, you know what I'm saying, 2065 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,480 Speaker 2: Ecstasy now is pressing pressed with fantom. 2066 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah, everything, you know what I mean, crazy, 2067 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be. 2068 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 2: Just be super super careful these days. If you're partying, Damn, 2069 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:11,720 Speaker 2: you can only eat rooms and smoke. 2070 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,360 Speaker 1: You see that, you see you see you see that, 2071 01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,240 Speaker 1: you see that. That's That's when I was being a 2072 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,400 Speaker 1: fucking weirdo and fire against my skin in my mind 2073 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,759 Speaker 1: felt great, right, but my skin, my skin, my skin 2074 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 1: would be pink and bleeding. You know what I'm saying. 2075 01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,880 Speaker 2: The night for sure, you know what I'm saying. 2076 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 1: She got she's smoking, sitting next to me. She's right here, 2077 01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 1: I got my handles. Man, I'm like hit me with 2078 01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 1: it every time, and she's like, you know all remembers, 2079 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,920 Speaker 1: like you're fucking freaky, Like shut up, just keep burning me. 2080 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:46,880 Speaker 2: What's next for a Strange? Strange music obviously is a powerhouse. 2081 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you know you guys can kind 2082 01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,040 Speaker 2: of switch to like more of a distro model recently. 2083 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it goes up. 2084 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,000 Speaker 2: What is what is next for for Strange Man? 2085 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 1: Next for Strange just fifty eight sixteen? Next for Strangers, 2086 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,719 Speaker 1: ISO's new album X Rated. You know what I'm saying, 2087 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,759 Speaker 1: Hush Joey cool j Jerry Robinson. You know what I'm saying. 2088 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,679 Speaker 1: We're not slowing down, bro, Bro, you know what I'm saying. 2089 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:17,599 Speaker 1: They I'm getting I'm getting way more polished with my writing. 2090 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm getting better with my songs period. And we're all elite. 2091 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,920 Speaker 1: When I say we all, I mean all my artist 2092 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,519 Speaker 1: and myself. I didn't eat no breakfast today, man. 2093 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,000 Speaker 2: Makes two of us. I'm off a fucking energy. 2094 01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,600 Speaker 1: But this was the first thing I had to do. 2095 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,040 Speaker 1: They don't even have no fucking water in my room 2096 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 1: when I was in Australia. Man, Yet they have water. 2097 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,799 Speaker 1: You can go in the mini bar and get two waters. 2098 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 1: And I ain't got shit in this but anyway, they 2099 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,880 Speaker 1: just want nigga die. But anyway, it's next for strange. Man, 2100 01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:00,559 Speaker 1: it's we're doing bigger tours. Man, We're doing better music. 2101 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 1: No sign of slowing down, man, You know what I'm saying. 2102 01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:10,200 Speaker 2: Was there ever any truth I had heard and you 2103 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 2: tell me this is true or not that you guys 2104 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:16,120 Speaker 2: had talked about maybe signing Bone Thugs and Harmony at 2105 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,160 Speaker 2: a certain point in time. Was that ever sniffed around about? Like, 2106 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,080 Speaker 2: was that ever anything that almost happened? 2107 01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember this. I don't remember this. I know 2108 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 1: we're on tour with them and O three and we've 2109 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 1: done you know, shows together lately, but uh, I don't 2110 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 1: think they ever needed it. 2111 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:36,599 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's fair. 2112 01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:37,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they ever needed it. 2113 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:43,519 Speaker 2: What was there ever, anybody who you guys were talking 2114 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,800 Speaker 2: to who I mean, obviously, I feel like jelly Roll 2115 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 2: is a big example of somebody who kind of came 2116 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 2: on board with the distro side early on when you 2117 01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 2: guys started the distro thing and it turned into you 2118 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:57,519 Speaker 2: know what we see now? Yeah, yeah, shout out to yeah, yeah, 2119 01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 2: for sure. 2120 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,719 Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, fucking Grammys and shit? 2121 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,439 Speaker 2: Was there ever any artists who almost did a strange 2122 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:08,040 Speaker 2: deal who just for whatever reason just never hop. 2123 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: Hopson pre funk volume Yes, Wow, Hopson and Dame came 2124 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 1: into the office. 2125 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:15,880 Speaker 2: Wow. What I'm saying. 2126 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: Travels was trying to get me to listen to Snow 2127 01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:22,320 Speaker 1: the product for two years before I did, Please, man, 2128 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:23,559 Speaker 1: listen to this. I never did. 2129 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:30,000 Speaker 2: And look Grammy nominated, Latin Grammy nominated. She's She's on Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, 2130 01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,400 Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite songs on the album. 2131 01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 1: She's On a Cosm. You know what I'm saying the 2132 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:37,840 Speaker 1: later is she on I'm trying to think a lot 2133 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,599 Speaker 1: of ship. She's on a lot of shit with you. Yes, 2134 01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 1: she on one with me and Russ. That's my favorite 2135 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 1: right on the album. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. 2136 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 1: I think we could have had Snow. You know what 2137 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know why. I don't know what 2138 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:49,679 Speaker 1: I was doing in my life that I never listened 2139 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,840 Speaker 1: and and that's why we've been We've been connected since 2140 01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 1: way back in the day, right, I mean Snow, man. 2141 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:01,519 Speaker 1: I think she's an elite lyricist, but she's a songwriter, man, 2142 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:02,479 Speaker 1: And she's diverse. 2143 01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,680 Speaker 2: Yes, she is man like, she could do anything that. 2144 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,400 Speaker 2: She's crazy and she's so like, she's like she could 2145 01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:09,920 Speaker 2: hold her fucking own. 2146 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:10,639 Speaker 1: It's like a mother. 2147 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:10,920 Speaker 2: Fight. 2148 01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,439 Speaker 1: Always put her at the end of our wrap and everybody. 2149 01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,160 Speaker 1: That's why I always put her at the end of 2150 01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,200 Speaker 1: the song crazy. On my last song, I got Kevin 2151 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 1: Gates on it. It's called ZOD It's me Joey Cool, 2152 01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Gates and Snow. At the end, he says, she said, 2153 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:26,960 Speaker 1: not take put me on the last verse again. 2154 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:27,720 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 2155 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 1: She start off like that you know what she's worthy 2156 01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:32,000 Speaker 1: of that ship? 2157 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 2: Did did you? 2158 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:33,200 Speaker 1: Guys? Ever? 2159 01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 2: You know who I when Funk Volume broke up, somebody 2160 01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 2: who's a close friend of mine, who I think toward 2161 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,280 Speaker 2: with you guys too. Jared Benton's like my brother. I 2162 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 2: love that. I felt like it would have been perfect, 2163 01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,519 Speaker 2: like a perfect marriage because Jared Benton is is also 2164 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 2: like very like he's a crazy bastard. 2165 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:53,080 Speaker 1: Well he is. But when when Hop and Dame broke, 2166 01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:57,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want everybody to come to Strange. That would 2167 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,360 Speaker 1: have been ship like that. A lot of people when 2168 01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,679 Speaker 1: the when the split happened with a Brainstick and Iso, 2169 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 1: they's like, but you said you wouldn't sign them niggas 2170 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,760 Speaker 1: from Funk Volume, but you signed Iso. I was like, 2171 01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,200 Speaker 1: Iso was a different thing than me because they fell 2172 01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:20,200 Speaker 1: out because of me, because I did bad juju with Iso, 2173 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,680 Speaker 1: and then the bad blood started after that, you know 2174 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I felt like I owed Io 2175 01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,800 Speaker 1: what he wanted from Strange, you know what I'm saying. 2176 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: So he wanted to tour with us. I got a 2177 01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 1: net and I was always talking to twisting and saying 2178 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:35,600 Speaker 1: in between that, Like you know what I'm saying. We 2179 01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,960 Speaker 1: have texted. He's like, that was the kick in the 2180 01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: that was the kick in the gut. I'm like, no, man, 2181 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: don't look at it like that. Man, I'm just trying 2182 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,160 Speaker 1: to help young brother. You know what I'm saying. This, 2183 01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:47,800 Speaker 1: that and the other and but the funk volume thing. 2184 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,559 Speaker 1: I just didn't want that, you know, would hop to 2185 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:53,639 Speaker 1: be like, damn, man' just gonna take all my artists. 2186 01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 2: That makes sense. That makes sense, Worldwide Choppers, would you 2187 01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:58,720 Speaker 2: do another one? 2188 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,280 Speaker 1: It another one? It's called speed Him with eminem Now. 2189 01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean another one. I know that speed Him is 2190 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,920 Speaker 2: like I keep in mind. 2191 01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,640 Speaker 1: I had people slated for speed Him. You know, I'm like, 2192 01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,800 Speaker 1: I had Daddy Yankee. Really, you know what I'm saying. 2193 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,719 Speaker 1: I was, I was in contact, you know what I'm saying. 2194 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,839 Speaker 1: I wanted Nicki Minaj. I wanted Kool Egga from Germany. 2195 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 1: I wanted. 2196 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this, I'm sad that we never 2197 01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,320 Speaker 2: got rits on a worldwide Choppers. Don't worry, but listen. 2198 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:36,240 Speaker 1: I wanted Gabby gabb female artists from Atlanta. She had 2199 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 1: already sent her verse in for Speed Him. I had 2200 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,720 Speaker 1: all these people. I had more people slated. You know 2201 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 2202 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,240 Speaker 2: I just can't remember what's Eminem calls though. It's like, 2203 01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:44,960 Speaker 2: hey guys, this is something. 2204 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,559 Speaker 1: This is Travis saying, Man, you cannot put all those 2205 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,120 Speaker 1: people that people don't you know on the song with 2206 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,920 Speaker 1: Eminem and you you know, he just wanted to be 2207 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:55,640 Speaker 1: me and Eminem. But Chris Calico said, I got to 2208 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,840 Speaker 1: get some of that, bro. I had to give it 2209 01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,040 Speaker 1: to Chris Calico. I never listened to his verse. I 2210 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,479 Speaker 1: didn't want to be influenced. And after I did my verse, 2211 01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,000 Speaker 1: I did my intro. You know what I'm saying, because 2212 01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,599 Speaker 1: I knew once I sent it an m it's so dope, 2213 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. So I'm talking about him in 2214 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: the first little eight bars. I guess not because he'd 2215 01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:14,760 Speaker 1: be the guest spot. You know what I'm saying. I knew, 2216 01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:18,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I did my verse 2217 01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 1: and I did my last verse with all the el's, 2218 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm theory of the final fight. I figuring on fight 2219 01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:27,040 Speaker 1: audit and send it to him. Travis's like, man, we 2220 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 1: got to cut all the other people out, man, So 2221 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,120 Speaker 1: when we dropped it, it was speed them worldwide choppers too, 2222 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,920 Speaker 1: So the fans are like, this is not Worldwide Choppers. 2223 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:38,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm not. 2224 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:39,280 Speaker 2: The spirit of the first one. 2225 01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,240 Speaker 1: They was upset, but they had to give it up though. 2226 01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,160 Speaker 1: I had to like have a rebuttle, like we're the 2227 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,040 Speaker 1: dopest rappers worldwide, so so. 2228 01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,240 Speaker 2: You know in the world. 2229 01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it was bullshit. Yeah. So 2230 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: like in the last three years, Like three years ago, 2231 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 1: David Banner was sending me beats and he sent me 2232 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:12,000 Speaker 1: this Annie Lynox beat man, this dun d D. I said. 2233 01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I found a new 2234 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:18,240 Speaker 1: world wide Choppers. But it was something. It was another 2235 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,320 Speaker 1: ship that was in the beat that we couldn't get 2236 01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,439 Speaker 1: clarity on the clearances, you know what I'm saying. So 2237 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,200 Speaker 1: I never got to do it. And I'm like, now 2238 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,880 Speaker 1: I could bring NICKI Minaj back, I can finally get 2239 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,400 Speaker 1: Daddy Yankee, and I can finally get j I D 2240 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,720 Speaker 1: And I can finally get you know what I'm saying, 2241 01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 1: whoever want to go. You know what I'm saying, whoever 2242 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,840 Speaker 1: want to go? You know, I can get Foster from Nigeria. 2243 01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. All these choppers all over 2244 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,560 Speaker 1: the world, man, you know what I'm saying, Fucking hurricane 2245 01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,840 Speaker 1: finally from Kansas City. 2246 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:43,599 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 2247 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 1: Just suss Mace, you know, from Topeka, just all these people. 2248 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, King Ioul haven't been on 2249 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,479 Speaker 1: one yet. You know what I'm saying. And who would 2250 01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,560 Speaker 1: you say, rits haven't been on one? You know what 2251 01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just do one? You know. So as it 2252 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 1: stands now, if a beat is worthy, because I said, 2253 01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,800 Speaker 1: it's on the table, because I said, I said, me 2254 01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:09,800 Speaker 1: and my nigga twist the ruler and this it at 2255 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,080 Speaker 1: the end of speed on. Because everybody who's done it 2256 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,720 Speaker 1: thus far from Eminem to everybody, from k Deane to 2257 01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,479 Speaker 1: Crazy Bone to who de lo can dilemma, all the 2258 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 1: people Chris Calico, all of them in are in my 2259 01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,400 Speaker 1: circle of choppers. So I said, if you ain't in 2260 01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 1: my circle of choppers, you missed it. Because me and 2261 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,720 Speaker 1: my doing nigga twist the ruler and this is it. 2262 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,759 Speaker 1: This is it. You know what I'm saying. And uh 2263 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 1: I said that. But now I'm thinking, if I find 2264 01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 1: the right beat, nigga, We're gonna go again. We're gonna 2265 01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:42,080 Speaker 1: go again. World wid Choppers three. Fuck that, you know 2266 01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I'm getting more crispy, and you know, 2267 01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,559 Speaker 1: I'm tired of racing motherfuckers, but I'm down to race still. 2268 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm just tired of racing, motherfucker. Everybody to send me 2269 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: a track, want me to race. I'm so tired of racing. 2270 01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 2: It's almost like when they think, oh this is we 2271 01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,080 Speaker 2: need to put Tech nine on this one. 2272 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,960 Speaker 1: Hurt me on the fucking n F track. Trust yeah, everybody, 2273 01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,040 Speaker 1: no nomber death bring up. I'm just going, man, you 2274 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:08,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody want to race? You know 2275 01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The one with me and Chris Webby, 2276 01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:11,760 Speaker 1: we just did feel like it. 2277 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 2: I feel like Mexican OT could chop two pretty crazy. 2278 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,640 Speaker 1: Mexican Ot is another one. Mexican O two is another one. 2279 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:21,560 Speaker 2: Mexican Yeah, I met him. 2280 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,000 Speaker 1: MEXICANOT is indeed a chopper is one that I would 2281 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:25,639 Speaker 1: call for sure. 2282 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2283 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,040 Speaker 1: So if the beat steps up, the beat has to 2284 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,400 Speaker 1: be massive because all the world wide choppers from Midwest 2285 01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,200 Speaker 1: Choppers one to Mike West Choppers two to Worldwide Choppers 2286 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:39,439 Speaker 1: to Worldward Choppers two speed them. These beats are massive bullshit. 2287 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:40,840 Speaker 1: That's beat to send motherfuckers. 2288 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:41,000 Speaker 2: Man. 2289 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, I really I know NICKI Minaj can do 2290 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:48,400 Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying. I know that. 2291 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,760 Speaker 1: Let me see, I know that. Uh, Denzel Curry can 2292 01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:54,080 Speaker 1: do it. 2293 01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 2: Logic can do it. 2294 01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Logic can do it. He had a, he had a, 2295 01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:58,680 Speaker 1: he had a he had a chance to do it 2296 01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 1: on Rocha. Yeah, he didn't do it after a Joiner though, 2297 01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,920 Speaker 1: But then they got together afterwards and did one together 2298 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:09,120 Speaker 1: and was hard. Yes sir, yes, yes sir, yes sir, 2299 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:10,800 Speaker 1: but forget he can do it for sure. 2300 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:12,679 Speaker 2: Do you and Chris talk still a lot? 2301 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,840 Speaker 1: Or it was my brother beyond music? 2302 01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:15,680 Speaker 2: I love Chris Man. 2303 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, you know what I'm saying. You know all 2304 01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:19,840 Speaker 1: the time, you know what I'm saying. I got him 2305 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,400 Speaker 1: in my phone under son of Sam because his name 2306 01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 1: is Samuel Christopher William Washington or Sammy William Christopher Watson, 2307 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:27,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I called him a 2308 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:29,560 Speaker 1: son of Sam because his dad's name was Sam. You 2309 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,519 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Chris the best always Son of 2310 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:33,559 Speaker 1: Sam is in my favorites. 2311 01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that was like when 2312 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:36,760 Speaker 2: when you guys had that moment at Red Rocks. It 2313 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:38,679 Speaker 2: felt good just because I know both of y'all. 2314 01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,160 Speaker 1: And then he just came out and surprised everybody and 2315 01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:49,160 Speaker 1: did Anxiety with the Casey Orchestra with me Casey Symphony. 2316 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,280 Speaker 1: He came out at the end and they fucking blew 2317 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 1: the fucking place up. And I like doing shit like 2318 01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: that because people think that when people leave it's bad blood. 2319 01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,760 Speaker 1: But Cosm, you know that it's no bad blood. You 2320 01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Not at all. It's just people 2321 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,679 Speaker 1: going on their own to leave something for their children. Yep, 2322 01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:09,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because me and Trave already 2323 01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,960 Speaker 1: got strange music for our children and our families, you 2324 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So motherfuckers want to go on 2325 01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,599 Speaker 1: their own to start something on their own, like may Day. 2326 01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying today? 2327 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, you know what I mean. And they're 2328 01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:24,280 Speaker 1: still on. It goes up all day, all day, So 2329 01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 1: no bad blood at all. Scatter managed snowb brim all 2330 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,920 Speaker 1: that ship, man, you know what I'm saying. I don't 2331 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,560 Speaker 1: know if Travis and Cuddle ever rekindle. 2332 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,880 Speaker 2: Hopefully one day. Yeah, time hotel I've never seen never 2333 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,080 Speaker 2: would be nice to see all on stage one more time. 2334 01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,680 Speaker 1: I think. Cut he's like a minister now, man, I 2335 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know if he'll do that. 2336 01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 2: That's fair. 2337 01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,800 Speaker 1: He said, he said he was battling demons and ship 2338 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,200 Speaker 1: when he was with me, you know, And. 2339 01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean he was also with you in probably the 2340 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,839 Speaker 2: wildest times. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 2341 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:58,320 Speaker 1: So if he looks at strange music as he's going 2342 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,120 Speaker 1: to have to battle demons war, I don't I don't know. 2343 01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't expect, I don't suspect that he will even 2344 01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:06,240 Speaker 1: think about doing this. 2345 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2346 01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,439 Speaker 1: I heard he was driving the church van and all 2347 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,680 Speaker 1: that kind of shit. So who's to say that he 2348 01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,479 Speaker 1: would even want to do anything like that. 2349 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:14,680 Speaker 2: You know, that's a fair point, man. 2350 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,840 Speaker 1: And make no mistake, there's no demons over here. It's 2351 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:22,320 Speaker 1: only angel baby worldly angel or angel babies. Make no mistake. 2352 01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:27,080 Speaker 1: The demons and the angels are within ourselves, you know 2353 01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And we have to we have to 2354 01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,000 Speaker 1: figure out which ones are we going to give power. 2355 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,200 Speaker 2: Can you tell me what's been different about being a 2356 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,040 Speaker 2: dad at this point in time of your life than 2357 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,320 Speaker 2: being a dad at an earlier stage in your life. 2358 01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,880 Speaker 1: When I had two children at twenty two. Aliah was 2359 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:48,880 Speaker 1: the first. Dantees was right after I hit the road 2360 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,040 Speaker 1: like crazy. That's why I made the rain and O six. Yep, 2361 01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:55,280 Speaker 1: it's hurt me that I was missing birthdays and missing 2362 01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,080 Speaker 1: graduations and all this kind of thing. Now that we 2363 01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 1: had Alena doing less shows, bigger shows and less let's dates, 2364 01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm home more and it made me realize how much 2365 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,240 Speaker 1: time I didn't have with my children that are thirty 2366 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,519 Speaker 1: now and twenty six and thirty one and all that 2367 01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of shit. I have more time now at home, 2368 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:24,280 Speaker 1: and it sucks that my kids had to endure my absence. 2369 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:29,599 Speaker 2: But there I'm sure like they also probably appreciate. I mean, 2370 01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:33,320 Speaker 2: you say you have sacrifice tattooed on your I mean yeah, you. 2371 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:37,160 Speaker 1: Know, and they we have a brand new relationship. You know. 2372 01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,320 Speaker 1: For a while, me and my first Aaliyah, she was like, 2373 01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,400 Speaker 1: not on my team. She was like not pro daddy, 2374 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And for a good reason. 2375 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,880 Speaker 1: And lately in the last year she said, Dad, it's like, 2376 01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:51,599 Speaker 1: you're all this new person. Now I don't have any 2377 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,240 Speaker 1: more insults for you. And I'm like, I'm sure you'll 2378 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:53,880 Speaker 1: find something soon. 2379 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:55,679 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 2380 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,439 Speaker 1: Really good, man, really good. We're starting a new chapter 2381 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:03,760 Speaker 1: with Aliyah, Rainbow and Dantees And now Lina's here and 2382 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 1: my wife has Bella Isabella. You know what I'm saying. 2383 01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,880 Speaker 1: She's she's going on seventeen and we're all a family, man, 2384 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:16,520 Speaker 1: and it's time to start creating new memories. 2385 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,639 Speaker 2: I love that. Man. Yeah. Well look Tech, the new 2386 01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:20,320 Speaker 2: album is. 2387 01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:24,080 Speaker 1: On the way, the sixteenth Forest, This summer new tour 2388 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:29,680 Speaker 1: is coming. Yes, yes, sir, Hollywood and nine tour. I 2389 01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,720 Speaker 1: might be going back with Ronnie Rocky soon, you know 2390 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:33,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 2391 01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,240 Speaker 2: And then you got something going on with the World Cup. 2392 01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did the World Cup Sonic. I d 2393 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,040 Speaker 1: for k C. Man, you know what I'm saying. That 2394 01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:46,080 Speaker 1: was a flex, you know. And they chose me. They 2395 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:51,960 Speaker 1: called FIFA called me. That's strange. Talked to Travis and said, 2396 01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:56,639 Speaker 1: we love Red Kingdom and we love what y'all do. 2397 01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 1: We want Tech. They didn't want words. They thought I 2398 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,559 Speaker 1: was a producer. Wow, So I'm like, uh, write, I 2399 01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:06,800 Speaker 1: write songs. Yeah, That's why I'm the only ID that 2400 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,240 Speaker 1: has lyrics, right, you know what I mean, because we 2401 01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,679 Speaker 1: pushed it, like listen to this, you know what I mean. 2402 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,280 Speaker 1: And I fucking did Tech nine on it, you know 2403 01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:15,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. And they loved it, and they I 2404 01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 1: did five different versions and that fifth one they said, yes, 2405 01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,360 Speaker 1: that's dope. I had too much in the hook. I guess. 2406 01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:27,080 Speaker 2: I feel like you and Travy eventually are gonna own 2407 01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,520 Speaker 2: the pieces of Royals or the Chiefs or something. 2408 01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,519 Speaker 1: Everybody say you need to run from Mayor. I'm like, 2409 01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:32,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want that job. 2410 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:34,840 Speaker 2: No, you just got to either bring an NBA team 2411 01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:37,880 Speaker 2: to Kansas City or or or you know, buy a 2412 01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,679 Speaker 2: chunk of the Royals or something, yeah. 2413 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:43,160 Speaker 1: Man, or build my amusement park strange Land man or 2414 01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:44,639 Speaker 1: that yeah yeah, yeah. 2415 01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 2: You guys got so much other building. 2416 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm building roller coasters in my notebook, man, I've been 2417 01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:49,920 Speaker 1: doing it for the last four years. I'm like, but 2418 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 1: it's so it's so intricate, man. And if I saw 2419 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,320 Speaker 1: short of the drawing, man, you're laugh like, an this 2420 01:53:56,640 --> 01:54:00,280 Speaker 1: is ship I've never seen. And my daughter I was 2421 01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,720 Speaker 1: going through my pages. It's like the fact that you're 2422 01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,120 Speaker 1: even trying something like this on paper is crazy. Dad. 2423 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,559 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I'm to go to sleep. I 2424 01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 1: was doing my mantra this roller coaster I see, I'm 2425 01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:16,479 Speaker 1: going through the motions of what it does and how 2426 01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,880 Speaker 1: it goes up and goes down this hole and cone 2427 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,640 Speaker 1: at the bottom that you go down and around and 2428 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,800 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I'm I'm asleep by the time it goes 2429 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,920 Speaker 1: back around. It goes frontwards and then it goes backwards. 2430 01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,160 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like you guys could do. I 2431 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:33,400 Speaker 2: feel like if you curated a yearly haunted experience. Of course, 2432 01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,280 Speaker 2: like all you know you go to haunted houses. 2433 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we went up that could be a Halloween, 2434 01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,520 Speaker 1: that could be a strange music Halloween. Before last, me 2435 01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,280 Speaker 1: and my wife and some friends we went down to 2436 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 1: Universal Cities in Orlando. 2437 01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,800 Speaker 2: Right, you go to the Halloween hornits right. 2438 01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:48,400 Speaker 1: And the weekend had a fucking hunter house. 2439 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,280 Speaker 2: Dude, he's had a hundred house three or street. That's 2440 01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:51,800 Speaker 2: fucking crazy, insane. 2441 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:53,160 Speaker 1: And you can see all these ones where you know, 2442 01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:57,240 Speaker 1: you have the boh and all of them are jumping 2443 01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:00,840 Speaker 1: out at you. I'm like, I do people are gonna 2444 01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:02,879 Speaker 1: be fucking petrified, homie. 2445 01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,600 Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying like you could do it in 2446 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,080 Speaker 2: case of course, Yeah, I think that would be crazy. 2447 01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:08,080 Speaker 1: I just need to take time. 2448 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,880 Speaker 2: It's about the time still doing music. It's about the time. 2449 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:11,640 Speaker 1: It's about time. 2450 01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:15,120 Speaker 2: It's about the time, man. So well listen, brother, I 2451 01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,520 Speaker 2: appreciate you hanging out. We finally got a pod done. 2452 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean we've how long was it two hours or so? 2453 01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:25,080 Speaker 2: We've We've done so many interviews over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2454 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,080 Speaker 2: This one was the first time I ever had you 2455 01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:28,960 Speaker 2: on my show was in two thousand and nine and 2456 01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,560 Speaker 2: Boise Idaho you Wouldn't Merge came in freestyled, Yeah, and 2457 01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,280 Speaker 2: you did. Uh. I forget which verse you did you did? 2458 01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2459 01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:37,920 Speaker 2: It was one of the verses off Tech Night Collapse, 2460 01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:43,600 Speaker 2: probably where you were I forget yeah too. But yeah, man, 2461 01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,280 Speaker 2: it's been, it's been. It's been dope to just. 2462 01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:47,080 Speaker 1: A long time. It's been. It's been good to see 2463 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:48,600 Speaker 1: your ascension. 2464 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 2: Too, brother. I appreciate it. 2465 01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:52,400 Speaker 1: Man, You're a fixture and this ship trying, brother, Yeah, 2466 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:53,040 Speaker 1: for sure, damn. 2467 01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,400 Speaker 2: And I try to do my part to always mention you, 2468 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,120 Speaker 2: bro when we talk about every time. 2469 01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,000 Speaker 1: Every time you do they my fans send it to me. Yeah, 2470 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it. There's always some 2471 01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,080 Speaker 1: connection with all the new the new guys too. 2472 01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:06,880 Speaker 2: That's what I always say. I'm like, yo, like I 2473 01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,040 Speaker 2: like feel like when it comes to like a certain 2474 01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:13,720 Speaker 2: like pocket of the underground world that I kind of 2475 01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:17,920 Speaker 2: came up pushing, it's like my responsibility to be like Yo, 2476 01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 2: Yellow hangout for the Mexicano TA interview we're about to do. 2477 01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,000 Speaker 2: You were there that night? Oh, like, oh you were there? 2478 01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:29,320 Speaker 2: I was fucked. Yeah, you know it's like like, you know, like, 2479 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,960 Speaker 2: how how can I try to bring like either artists 2480 01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,360 Speaker 2: who I feel like would be dope to that world 2481 01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,920 Speaker 2: or just you know, shine light to like right to 2482 01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,520 Speaker 2: some of these guys who are you know, I consider 2483 01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:44,560 Speaker 2: to be goats? You like yourself? You know, I appreciate it. 2484 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:44,760 Speaker 1: Man. 2485 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,760 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you get the recognition and the 2486 01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:49,720 Speaker 2: greatest of all time convo? I'm sure you don't give 2487 01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:51,720 Speaker 2: a fuck, but I'm not. 2488 01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't get that recognition because, uh, I don't need 2489 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need I don't need 2490 01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't need thatccolades from anybody. I just do music 2491 01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:08,280 Speaker 1: and if people like it, I love it. You know 2492 01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:16,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I don't need validation from people 2493 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,400 Speaker 1: or the culture or anything. You know what I'm saying, 2494 01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 1: But I would like it. 2495 01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:22,400 Speaker 2: No, I know you would like it. I know, I 2496 01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:23,760 Speaker 2: know like it. I mean you like it? 2497 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean? And uh, I mean fragile. 2498 01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,680 Speaker 2: One of your biggest records is literally about people critiquing. 2499 01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,080 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir. That's why I took 2500 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:33,960 Speaker 1: the time to do that on a song like that, 2501 01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,280 Speaker 1: and it blew up on the radio. I had no idea, 2502 01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:40,760 Speaker 1: But I don't need it, but I'd like it, you 2503 01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I put a lot into 2504 01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:44,880 Speaker 1: what I write. You know what I mean. I always have. 2505 01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:51,240 Speaker 1: And over the years, you hear all the new generation 2506 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:54,920 Speaker 1: talking about Tech nine. That's the validation right there. You 2507 01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You hear you know, L Russell 2508 01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,800 Speaker 1: talking about Tech nine. You hear Russtop about Tech nine. 2509 01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,320 Speaker 1: You hear all these people, Playboy CARDI. You know what 2510 01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You hear all these people. I just met 2511 01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: Offset at the super Bowl and as soon as he 2512 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:13,240 Speaker 1: said Tech nine, he looked, he smiled, and he said, legend, man, Legend, 2513 01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like, that's validation right there. 2514 01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like all that other shit you would like, 2515 01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:22,280 Speaker 2: but that is as rewarding to hear from from the peers, 2516 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,640 Speaker 2: from your peers and from like a whole new generation 2517 01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,000 Speaker 2: that aren't necessarily your peers. 2518 01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:28,000 Speaker 1: And them to do a song for you, like to speed. 2519 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:30,840 Speaker 2: The man that's val doesn't do a song for anybody, No, man, 2520 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,080 Speaker 2: for sure, you damn you gotta signed to him to 2521 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:33,480 Speaker 2: get a burse. 2522 01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 1: All that's is validation. You know what I'm saying, Two chains, Bob, 2523 01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:39,560 Speaker 1: All that shit is validation. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 2524 01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:40,879 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar is validation. 2525 01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:41,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 2526 01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,840 Speaker 1: We shooting the video in Kansas City for Fragile. We're 2527 01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,840 Speaker 1: sitting in this super cold outside, so Travis got his 2528 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,760 Speaker 1: RV down there and we're in the RV trying to 2529 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,000 Speaker 1: warm up from the top is with him and he's 2530 01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:55,160 Speaker 1: like tech Fragile's dope. Man. You know what I'm saying. 2531 01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,680 Speaker 1: That's Kendrick talking to me, and I'm like, thank you, brother. 2532 01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:01,480 Speaker 2: It's been cool to see just topped off evolve as 2533 01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:08,280 Speaker 2: this like powerhouse. Right. It's it's it's it's insane. And 2534 01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,920 Speaker 2: and I I mean, and I'm sure if you asked 2535 01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 2: top he took I'm sure a lot of inspiration and 2536 01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:16,320 Speaker 2: he learned a lot. I learned a lot from his 2537 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,760 Speaker 2: experience with with y'all and putting out that J rock album. 2538 01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:23,440 Speaker 1: Man, yes, sir, And what's happening to them? Man? Him 2539 01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:27,960 Speaker 1: and Punch and all them is? Uh is astronomical? Man? 2540 01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2541 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,800 Speaker 1: And Kendrick is beyond the Stars. 2542 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,600 Speaker 2: And then it's like removed Kendrick all that all the 2543 01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:41,720 Speaker 2: Stars is. I don't know if you heard her album is. 2544 01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:42,960 Speaker 1: She Is a Monster? 2545 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,840 Speaker 2: Is my favorite album last year? 2546 01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,920 Speaker 1: And and and and dude, how do they find these motherfuckers? 2547 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,160 Speaker 2: She's an alien creatively. 2548 01:59:52,720 --> 02:00:00,400 Speaker 3: Man fucking lyrically inclined, conceptualistically incline. It's so c MC 2549 02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:03,320 Speaker 3: song stress everything. 2550 02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Man. 2551 02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, damn, like, y'all really got whoever? Like 2552 02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,280 Speaker 2: you know? Shouts to uh top Son Musa's who I 2553 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:14,640 Speaker 2: believe signed? Uh Dochi? Really yeah, Musa signed do I? 2554 02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:17,800 Speaker 2: So it's like, man, good, that's a grab right there 2555 02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,960 Speaker 2: out of Tampa too. She's out of here, man, she 2556 02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:24,280 Speaker 2: is out of here? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, Well listen brother. 2557 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:27,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Uh man, I'm just I'm a fan 2558 02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,080 Speaker 2: bro first, you know, and obviously her my friend and 2559 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,920 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I feel like a lot of 2560 02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:37,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people if you're getting into the music industry, 2561 02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,960 Speaker 2: like you're watching this and you may be like, man, 2562 02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:41,960 Speaker 2: it's the first I heard of tech. Like, hey, man, like, 2563 02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,240 Speaker 2: if you go take this rap shit series, you got 2564 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,760 Speaker 2: to like study what you do. 2565 02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Exactly for real. Yeah, it's a blessed position being. 2566 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when I think of all this independent ship, 2567 02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,920 Speaker 2: it's like hot all of a sudden, I'm like, man. 2568 02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,360 Speaker 1: They but just don't don't think like that, because they 2569 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:03,480 Speaker 1: all to me and say, if it wasn't for you, 2570 02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:06,120 Speaker 1: for sure, man, you showed us early on. Man, they 2571 02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:07,840 Speaker 1: all say it, they all give they all give it up. 2572 02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, man, you change I mean, whether I mean, 2573 02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, but you changed the rap game 2574 02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:14,240 Speaker 2: for real, whether or not as sonic sonically or but 2575 02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,320 Speaker 2: the business of rap music has changed because the. 2576 02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Strange track record that's untouchable. 2577 02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:23,400 Speaker 2: Shout out to Travis two, who's got way too many cars. 2578 02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,760 Speaker 2: He should let me have one, and uh he's waiting 2579 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:26,280 Speaker 2: those cars. 2580 02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Man, he's in the car business. 2581 02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:28,560 Speaker 2: I want to give shot out to Travis two for 2582 02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,360 Speaker 2: being the buffet old man. They don't just the cars 2583 02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:32,920 Speaker 2: from that motherfucker. He's lifting a lot of weights. Oh yes, 2584 02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:33,879 Speaker 2: he is jacked. 2585 02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:36,160 Speaker 1: He ain't. He ain't big trave no more. 2586 02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what's so funny is like I don't 2587 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:41,120 Speaker 2: think people would understand because early tech shows Travis would 2588 02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:44,480 Speaker 2: be on stage of security is certain shows you'll still 2589 02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:48,920 Speaker 2: see him standing. Will you ever bring the face paint back? 2590 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,440 Speaker 2: Because that's it, that's a commitment. You got to have 2591 02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:54,440 Speaker 2: the face paint guy on on. I forget that over 2592 02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:55,960 Speaker 2: the years. I forget the old guy who used to 2593 02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,400 Speaker 2: paint your face. Yeah. Scenario, yeah, scenario, that's right. 2594 02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Scenario before scenario that was Craig David. He died before. 2595 02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:06,440 Speaker 1: The very first was Brian Dennis, he died. You know 2596 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:10,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My last was second to the last 2597 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,040 Speaker 1: was Jose Ramirez. He quit. He wanted to be at 2598 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,080 Speaker 1: home with his little girl, Millie, you know what I'm saying, 2599 02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:19,520 Speaker 1: to raise her, which is noble. And then on my 2600 02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:23,400 Speaker 1: lapt my fifth one was Ubi from Sess Crew. He's 2601 02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:28,440 Speaker 1: too massive of an artist to be following me around 2602 02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:33,960 Speaker 1: and over the years started you know, Brian Dinnis started 2603 02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the skull face. Then I just started doing my forehead, 2604 02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:38,920 Speaker 1: but over the years turned into my whole face and 2605 02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:41,480 Speaker 1: my whole head. That shit takes three hours every night. 2606 02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,200 Speaker 2: I feel like when you did the mask, it was 2607 02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:45,160 Speaker 2: a perfect compromise. 2608 02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:48,880 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, take it off. Called Corey Taylor. 2609 02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:52,960 Speaker 1: I said, listen, man, I can't afford to keep taking, 2610 02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:56,520 Speaker 1: not money wise, but like the time, because the time. 2611 02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,640 Speaker 1: I can't afford the time, and you be being an 2612 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,520 Speaker 1: artist that's on the incline. I cannot. Hey, man, we 2613 02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:03,440 Speaker 1: got to go to fucking UK if you could paint 2614 02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,040 Speaker 1: my face and he got to have his shit held up? 2615 02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,160 Speaker 2: No, who's making the slipknop mask? Give me there? 2616 02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Saying no, I called Corey Taylor and I said, listen, man, 2617 02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I need a mask that can endure a two hour 2618 02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,400 Speaker 1: fucking show. And y'all the only ones I know that 2619 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:23,120 Speaker 1: got him for sure, he said, Jake Rounjass California, gave 2620 02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:25,880 Speaker 1: me the number. I've been fucking with Jake on like, 2621 02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:31,520 Speaker 1: I think we've had three or four different versions of 2622 02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:32,800 Speaker 1: the clown thus far. 2623 02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:34,960 Speaker 2: You know, what I'm saying, that's dope. 2624 02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:40,160 Speaker 1: And uh, I think for a show maybe. 2625 02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,200 Speaker 2: Maybe for the thirty video. What about for the thirty 2626 02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:43,760 Speaker 2: year anniversary. 2627 02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Maybe for a video or something. I'll call Ubi and 2628 02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:49,360 Speaker 1: see if he's in town and will three hours to 2629 02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:50,920 Speaker 1: do my fucking whole head. 2630 02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:52,560 Speaker 2: I feel like y'all got to do like a crazy 2631 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,640 Speaker 2: show for the thirty years. The thirty years are strange. 2632 02:03:56,800 --> 02:03:58,920 Speaker 1: That shit used to burn my eyes like crazy. Oh, 2633 02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I bet know what I'm saying. So the Silicon mask 2634 02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:03,440 Speaker 1: man really helps me? 2635 02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure? For sure. I can only imagine I'd 2636 02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:09,560 Speaker 2: be like, damn like that shit is a commitment every night, yeah, man, 2637 02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 2638 02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, every night, three hours. The last gathering we did, 2639 02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:18,240 Speaker 1: he had to paint my face three hours before I 2640 02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,040 Speaker 1: went on outside back in here. 2641 02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,120 Speaker 2: Walking around sweating before the show. Anyway, for sure, man. 2642 02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:24,600 Speaker 1: It's hard, hard to do, hard to deal with the 2643 02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:27,360 Speaker 1: face plants, A hard commitment because the way I see 2644 02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:30,960 Speaker 1: the clown morphing, it keeps getting worse and worse every year. 2645 02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:32,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying in my mind, You know 2646 02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With the corrosion and everything. So I 2647 02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,800 Speaker 1: don't know, man, maybe I'll sit down for three hours. 2648 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,720 Speaker 1: I won't say never though, right I like it? Man, Well, listen, Tech, 2649 02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up by the album. This summer 2650 02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:49,200 Speaker 1: tour coming. When's the tour start day after tomorrow? Oh yeah, 2651 02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:50,160 Speaker 1: you're you're locked in? 2652 02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:55,240 Speaker 2: How many from Australia? Like twenty something bad? That's something 2653 02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:59,400 Speaker 2: light for you, twenty five? Anything under forty is light 2654 02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,680 Speaker 2: work for you. Ain't for sure, you know what I'm saying. 2655 02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:05,080 Speaker 2: So hey, man, Tech, go go see him on on 2656 02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:07,640 Speaker 2: the road. The new record is out right now too, 2657 02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:09,280 Speaker 2: so you can go support to the new singles out 2658 02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:12,240 Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, the new record in the new record, 2659 02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:14,960 Speaker 2: don't come out to Uh. Well, when I think of record, 2660 02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:15,600 Speaker 2: I think of a song. 2661 02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you can say that. 2662 02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the technicality new record RDV is the new song. 2663 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's out. 2664 02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:24,640 Speaker 2: Go watch the video and Tech, I appreciate you pulling up, brother, 2665 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:27,480 Speaker 2: Thank you brother, Yes, Sir Tech nine, Yes boom