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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Buckle up, We're going to have a fun ride.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton still on vacation. He'll be back with me Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I've got you guys solo today, Tomorrow and Friday, as

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Speaker 1: I've had you Monday and Tuesday as well. We got

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Speaker 1: some awesome guests for you. Let me give you a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a rundown of where we're headed. Nate Silver,

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Speaker 1: who has got a book out, does a regular election forecast.

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Speaker 1: He is going to be on with us a little

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Speaker 1: bit after one o'clock at one thirty, And I'm going

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Speaker 1: to talk about this more today because I still believe

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Speaker 1: it's a huge, monstrous story that most people are pretending

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Speaker 1: does not exist on the left and in much of

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Speaker 1: quote unquote mainstream media. Congressman Jim Jordan will be on

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Speaker 1: with us. It was a letter to Jim Jordan from

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta slash Facebook, that exploded yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I guess it was two days ago in the evening,

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Speaker 1: but yesterday we discussed a great deal A lot of

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Speaker 1: you had questions. I appreciate all the emails and all

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Speaker 1: the feedback on our discussion. I'm not going to let

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Speaker 1: this story go away. We'll talk about it more today

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Speaker 1: with him, great guy from Ohio. He's on regularly. And

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Speaker 1: then in the third hour of the program. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you watch Greg Guttfeld in the evening to have

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Speaker 1: some laughs on Fox News regular panelists there, Kat temp

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Speaker 1: bestselling author. She has got a brand new book out

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Speaker 1: that producer Ali has read and loved it. And my

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Speaker 1: mother in law was in the house for the past

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Speaker 1: three or four days. And we are fortunate we get

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Speaker 1: a lot of books sent to the house from authors

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Speaker 1: that are either going to be on the show or

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Speaker 1: they're hoping that we'll talk about their new release. And

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Speaker 1: I had Kat's new book sitting on the counter in

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Speaker 1: the house and my mother in law picked it up,

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Speaker 1: started reading it and asked if she could keep it

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Speaker 1: and take it home to finish it. So there are

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Speaker 1: two endorsements. I haven't read a word of it, to

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Speaker 1: be fair. I have read Nate Silver's new book, which

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Speaker 1: deals a lot with poker with elections, with basically how

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Speaker 1: to apply lessons of life from a probabilistic perspective to

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Speaker 1: a wide variety of disciplines. I think you're really going

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Speaker 1: to enjoy that discussion that we're going to have. I've

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Speaker 1: read that book. It just came out very good. And

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Speaker 1: I like The Signal and the Noise, which is another

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Speaker 1: book by Nate Silver. We will talk with all three

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Speaker 1: of those guys and gals. I think you will enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with what we talked about yesterday,

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Speaker 1: So a couple of new stories that we're going to

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Speaker 1: be diving into today. Kamala Harris has finally agreed to

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Speaker 1: sit for an interview, but she's going to be accompanied

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Speaker 1: by Tim Walls. It's going to be taped, and it

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Speaker 1: is going to air on CNN with Dana Bash as

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Speaker 1: the inquisitor as the interviewer. This is crazy in and

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Speaker 1: of itself that we would have a woman who wants

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Speaker 1: to be the first woman, first woman president ever, currently

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Speaker 1: sitting vice president and she is unable to do an

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Speaker 1: interview by herself. I've never even heard of a presidential

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Speaker 1: candidate insisting on a co interview with her vice president.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Booth, who's a part of the Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: podcast network, tweeted out that it's an embarrassment to women

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Speaker 1: that Kamala Harris is arguing she should be the first

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Speaker 1: female president and she isn't even capable of doing an

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is very very strange behavior that they've

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Speaker 1: hidden Kamala Harris for a full month. They finally agree

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Speaker 1: to an interview. It's with Dana Bash. I think we

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Speaker 1: have the audio of Dana Bash where she says that

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party basically is going after low testosterone men

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Speaker 1: with their convention, which is, by the way, if you're

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Speaker 1: a male voting Democrat. I mean, you talk about damning

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Speaker 1: you with faint praise. But to have to sit with

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls, it's an embarrassment and it's an incredible indictment

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of softballs. I would

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Speaker 1: bet you, and I guarantee you that Kamala Harris and

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls and their team either will get the questions

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is in a position right now where she

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Speaker 1: is refusing to talk to anyone. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: He did an interview with Sean Ryan I believe right,

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Speaker 1: out there. Trump is talking to everybody. He's sitting down

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Speaker 1: and answering every question. Trump has been on this program.

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Speaker 1: What's the total number, producer ally that we've had Trump

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Speaker 1: on I'm trying to think. I know we've done mar

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Speaker 1: not for like five minute hits, for full hours. And

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. But unlike Kamala Harris's team,

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Speaker 1: exactly is going to be the parameters of this interview,

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Speaker 1: done with Trump. We had Trump on twice when I

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Speaker 1: I bet I've interviewed Trump ten times, a bunch of

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Speaker 1: times with Buck on this show, several times on my own.

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Speaker 1: Never have they said, hey, can you make sure that

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Speaker 1: you don't bring this subject up? Never negotiated. Margo, who

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Speaker 1: Doesn't say hey, can you please not ask me about this?

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Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before. You may not agree

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Speaker 1: right now, I could finish this show at three o'clock Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Post two hey, each get a half hour. You can

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Speaker 1: I talked about yesterday. As soon as I finished this program.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Fox News, and I'm gonna do Fox Business,

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Speaker 1: I haven't prepared enough to be able to come talk

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Speaker 1: all of it. I work all day to be ready

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Speaker 1: be ready to do OutKick and to be ready to

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Speaker 1: share opinions out there. My wife is downstairs right now

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Speaker 1: same day she said she no longer supports an electric

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Speaker 2: She wants to remove all of them.

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Speaker 1: Harris doesn't want any police officers to help protect your

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Speaker 3: Listen again, what we need to do about taking demilitarizing

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about something, I would immediately say

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Speaker 1: the hell I will. I ain't talking to you guys

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Speaker 1: at all. I'm getting the best criminal defense lawyer in

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Speaker 1: the country and I ain't saying a word to you.

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Speaker 2: Now. That's my opinion of the FBI right now. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that same opinion about local law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: I shared on this show. Unfortunately, we've gotten multiple death

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Speaker 1: threats to the house. I called my local police force.

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Speaker 1: We've had security at the house. Had to sit down

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Speaker 1: with all my kids and talk to him. Hey, dad

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Speaker 1: goes on the radio and he says things and that

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Speaker 1: makes people mad and sometimes they want to kill him

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Speaker 1: for it. Imagine having to have that conversation with your

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Speaker 1: nine year old. We had security around the house, my

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Speaker 1: local police. They come by this house all the time.

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Speaker 1: They got my back. I talked to our security guard.

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Speaker 1: He said, man, he said, middle of the night, the

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Speaker 1: police came by your house twelve times. They are on

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Speaker 1: here making sure that you and your family are safe

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Speaker 1: where you live. They have got your back. I love

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Speaker 1: my local police force, and I love a lot of

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Speaker 1: you out there all over the country that are working

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Speaker 1: in local police right now. And I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of them local FBI guys are good dudes, good gals.

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Speaker 1: But when I know that the FBI rigged the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election for Joe Biden, am I gonna trust them

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Speaker 1: when now when they knock on my door. No. And

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Speaker 1: that's a shame because guess what I might have four

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Speaker 1: years ago. I might have wanted to work with them

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Speaker 1: four years ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust.

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Speaker 1: Them, and that's the problem with so many of our

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Speaker 1: institutions right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust our Department of Justice.

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Speaker 1: If Merrick Garland, the Attorney General right now, said that

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Speaker 1: he and his top attorneys wanted to meet with me,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't meet with them unless I went in with

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Speaker 1: my own attorneys. Now, and I'm a lawyer, I should

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Speaker 1: have full faith and confidence in the Attorney General of

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Speaker 1: the United States, not to be a political appointee who's

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Speaker 1: going after somebody who he disagrees with. This is what

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Speaker 1: they've created. They have destroyed trust in our institutions, and

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Speaker 1: much of the media won't even cover them. The only

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Speaker 1: reason that media should exist, in my opinion, from a

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Speaker 1: political perspective, is to speak truth to power. The more

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Speaker 1: wealthy and powerful you become, the more people will do

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Speaker 1: whatever you say, and that becomes scary. It's why back

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Speaker 1: in the day, when you were a Roman conqueror, Julius

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Speaker 1: Caesar's rolling through the streets of ancient Rome. I believe

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Speaker 1: this is true. I hope it's not apocryphal, but I

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Speaker 1: have always been told that someone would ride along in

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Speaker 1: the chariot with the Emperor basically whispering in his ear,

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Speaker 1: you are mortal.

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Speaker 2: This too shall pass.

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Speaker 1: If you look at what we create now, much of

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Speaker 1: the media doesn't speak truth to power. It exists to

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Speaker 1: cozy up to power and to protect power. And that's

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Speaker 1: a profoundly different dynamic and the easiest way to analyze this.

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Speaker 1: New York Times not one story about in the newspaper

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Speaker 1: today or yesterday about Mark Zuckerberg's letter to Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Jim Jordan next hour. What

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Speaker 1: would the New York Times have looked like if Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump had done everything that Joe Biden did in regards

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Speaker 1: to Facebook. It'd be on the front page of the

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Speaker 1: New York Times for months. You wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: escape at hell. They're still talking about January sixth, and

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Speaker 1: they have completely memory hold the fact that part of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's ear got ripped off by an AR fifteen

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Speaker 1: just last month. We haven't had a president shot since

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Speaker 1: Reagan in eighty one, and they're already trying to make

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Speaker 1: you forget that Trump got shot while simultaneously still talking

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Speaker 1: about January sixth, happened.

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Speaker 2: Almost four years ago.

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Speaker 1: The power of the New York Times in the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post is not equaled by anything in the conservative media ecosystem.

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Speaker 1: There is no journalistic outlet like that. In fact, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening right now and you're a billionaire and you've

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Speaker 1: got the money and the resources to do it, a

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Speaker 1: New York Times and a Washington Post competitor on an

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Speaker 1: incredibly elite level. That does for Fox News. What for

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Speaker 1: the media industry could happen to compete with the New

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Speaker 1: York Times and the Washington Post would be an incredible asset.

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Speaker 1: There is no equivalent. People say, oh Fox News, No, no,

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Speaker 1: Fox News advertiser business. Its competitor is MSNBC and CNN.

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Speaker 1: That company makes its money, all of those television networks

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Speaker 1: based on the audience that they produced. Remember yesterday when

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Speaker 1: I told you there's only two ways media companies make money.

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Speaker 1: One is advertising, and advertising relies on the biggest possible audience.

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Speaker 1: The bigger your audience is, the more money you make.

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Speaker 1: That's an advertiser based model. The other is a subscription

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Speaker 1: based model. Now some mix the two, but a subscription

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Speaker 1: based model is diehards. Hey, I'll pay you X number

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Speaker 1: of dollars to be able to see your content. What's

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Speaker 1: happened with the New York Times, the Washington Post is

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Speaker 1: and most people haven't realized this. They moved from an

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Speaker 1: advertiser model by and large to a subscription model, and

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Speaker 1: a subscription model isn't about pursuing truth. It's about telling

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Speaker 1: your subscribers what they already want to hear. I wrote

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Speaker 1: about this a lot in my most recent book, I

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Speaker 1: understand media well because I ran OutKick, but it is

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Speaker 1: fundamentally transformed the way we talk about stories. And again,

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Speaker 1: it's not just what's covered, it's the absence of coverage.

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Speaker 1: If you woke up today and you're super busy and

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Speaker 1: you read the New York Times, you would have no

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Speaker 1: idea that that Facebook story had even happened, that Mark

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg had written that letter. I've got a good buddy,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this recently. Super busy warrior, doesn't watch television,

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Speaker 1: isn't on social media. It's got a bunch of kids,

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Speaker 1: works eighty hours a week in a law firm. He

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Speaker 1: texted me a story about Biden behind the scenes and

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Speaker 1: how decrepit he was that the New York Times wrote

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Speaker 1: once they forced Joe Biden out, and he was like, man,

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Speaker 1: did you have any idea how bad Biden had gotten.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, I did, I knew. But

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Speaker 1: he relies on the New York Times to keep him

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Speaker 1: informed because he's super busy. There are tens of millions

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Speaker 1: of people like that. How do you reach him with

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Speaker 1: the truth when the New York Times, because it's a

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Speaker 1: subscription business, is not in the business anymore of sharing

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Speaker 1: the truth. Same thing with the Washington Post. They're in

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Speaker 1: the business of making their subscribers believe that they're of

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Speaker 1: the good people, and the Republicans are evil and Trump

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Speaker 1: is Hitler. Producer Ali says she listens to three morning

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Speaker 1: news podcast NPR and CNN did not actually cover the

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg letter. Lots of good people out there listening

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Speaker 1: to NPR and CNN. They don't know any better. They

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Speaker 1: read the New York Times. They've been doing it for

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty, forty years. Your friends, your family, they consume

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Speaker 1: the same media they've always consumed, and they don't realize

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Speaker 1: how much things have changed and how dishonest many of

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Speaker 1: those media sources are.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: Until you actually go down the rabbit hole and start

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Speaker 1: to examine stories aggressively, you are not aware of what is.

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Speaker 2: Actually out there.

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Speaker 1: And I use this as an example, this Facebook story.

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Speaker 1: It's way bigger than Watergate. We don't know who in

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Speaker 1: the world rigged the election for Joe Biden. They're still

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Speaker 1: being paid by our tax dollars in the government, people

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Speaker 1: at the FBI, CIA, deep state. I don't know because

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Speaker 1: we don't know. You heard Ron Johnson call in the Senator.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most powerful guys in the country.

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Speaker 1: They were briefing him and telling him that he was

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Speaker 1: going to be subject to Russian disinformation. He's been asking

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Speaker 1: for a while. Yle who ordered this briefing? He doesn't

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Speaker 1: even know. It goes deep, man, This goes really really deep,

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Speaker 1: and you have to be aware of it because if

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Speaker 1: they did it in twenty twenty when they weren't in power,

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Speaker 1: what are they going to do in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: when they're actually in power Again, keep your heads on

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Speaker 1: a swivel, and also try to get your friends and

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Speaker 1: family to consume multiple sources of media, even if it

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Speaker 1: forces them to consider maybe their prior opinions were wrong.

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Speaker 1: Israeli citizens woke up today wondering if they'd hear warning sirens.

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Speaker 1: Not a day that goes by when incoming missiles don't

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Speaker 1: threaten one part of the nation or another. It's why

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Speaker 1: so many Israeli residents have bomb shelters or access to one.

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Speaker 1: The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, that's the IFCJ

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Speaker 1: has been helping to provide as many Israeli citizens as

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Speaker 1: possible with food and medicine for bomb shelter stays that

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Speaker 1: last several days in a row. For more than forty years,

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Speaker 1: the IFCJ has been on the ground in Israel within

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Speaker 1: hours of the attacks by Hamas soldiers last October and

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Speaker 1: every day since. The IFCJ has been feeding the hungry

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Speaker 1: and protecting the vulnerable. We need to help them. One

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Speaker 1: solid way to do that is through the humanitarian efforts

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Speaker 1: provided by the IFCJ. Support Israel through the International Fellowship

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Speaker 1: of Christians and Jews. To hear more stories like this

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Speaker 1: dot org. We're going to be joined by Nate Silver,

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Speaker 1: who has an interesting forecast for the election, but has

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Speaker 1: also written a book that I find really intriguing, which

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Speaker 1: basically encourages all of us to be willing to challenge

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Speaker 1: what we may have believed before based on what the

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Speaker 1: talk to Jim Jordan about the blockbuster revelations from in

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Speaker 1: the Mark Zuckerberg letter, which was addressed to Congressman Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan of Ohio. We'll also ask him what he sees

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Speaker 1: from the election going for as we sit a little

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Speaker 1: bit over sixty days out from election day and many

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Speaker 1: of you are going to be able to vote soon

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Speaker 1: in the beginning of September, all that headed your way.

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Speaker 1: We'll also take some of your calls and more, plus

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Speaker 1: Kat Tempt from Fox News in the third hour, brand

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Speaker 1: Second hour next Nate Silver on the latest election news