1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number two and 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: forty six, and today we are back with our RUT 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Radio miniseries in which we hear from hunters all across 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: the country about the latest deer activity and behavior, the 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: progress of the white tail Rut, and the tactics that 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: are working right now. All right, welcome to the Wired 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx, and today 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: we are back for RUT radio. And this is kind 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: of when RUT radio hits its stride, I feel, because 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: we are now there. In the words of I think 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Bing Crosby, I think Frank Sinatra, I think just about 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: any probably Michael Bubla, Harry kind of JR. It's the 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: most wonderful time of year. I think they've all said 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: that on a song at some point, and and it 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: really is. It's not Christmas, it's the Rut. It's uh, 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: it's basically here because when this podcast drops is Halloween, 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: I think, and sweet November will be right at our fingertips. 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: And what we do here on RUT Radio if you're 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: not familiar, as we chat with hunters from all across 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: the country to get the latest and greatest on what's 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: happening in the woods right now. What's the progress of 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the rut, What kind of sign are we seeing, what 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: kind of deer activity are we seeing? What are the 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: conditions and variables present that are impacting deer and deer hunting. 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff that we have for you today. 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: And Spencer new Heart is the man who goes out 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: and collects all that. Spencer, are you as excited as 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: I am? Yeah, I'm I'm echoing your enthusiasm for this 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: time of year because only on RUT Radio, we're going 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: to start hearing some things that involve rutting. So you 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: know you're gonna hear some pre rut stuff, talk about 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: seeking and chasing, all this stuff that gets you excited 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: for the end of October and the beginning of November. Yes, 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: I've we've been waiting all the year for this and 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: it's here. And uh, you, my friend, have a little 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: bit of a rut report that you could probably share, 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Is that right? I heard you did some hunting in 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: South Dakota Yeah, I've been jumping around the state hunting 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: some different pieces and makes of public and private and uh, 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: basically from now to the next month, I'll be hunting 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: nearly every day and so uh, this last week was 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: really exciting. It was the stuff that makes archery hunting 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: super fun and super frustrating. Twice I had shooters uh 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: within forty five yards. It just never came together for 48 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: me where I was giving an opportunity. But I'm comforted 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: that it is the end of October and the best 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: is yet to come. But on both of those hunts, 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: it was dealing with deer that were acting how you 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: would think they would act this time of year. The 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: one buck came in tearing up some scrapes. The other 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: buck came through dogging a doll. Uh like basically the 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: middle of the afternoon. It was almost four hours before sunset. 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: So uh, the deer are doing what we want them 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: to now. I just got to be in the right 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: place at the right time. But Mark you, on the 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: other hand, you did get it done. Congrats on the 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: awesome Nebraska buck. Super proud and super jealous. I know 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna say most of the story for your regular episode, 62 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: dropping on Thursday. But on that hunt of what kind 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: of running activity did you see? Yeah, well, thank you. 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: First off, it was it was really cool and as 65 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: far as the activity that I saw, I definitely was 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: seeing what you hope to see at the end of October. 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Some of that pre rut leading into the right activity. 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: UM saw bucks making scrapes and saw bucks beginning to 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: cruise a little bit. I saw mature buck up on 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: his feet, probably similar to what you saw about four 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: hours before dark, cruising a river bottom. Almost got a 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: shot at him. And then about two hours before dark, 73 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I saw another buck doing the same thing and I 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: did get a shot at him, and UM. Another thing 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: that he was doing related to running activity is that 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: he was very susceptible to calling. He definitely was rutted up, 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: fired up, and aggressive because I was able to call 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: him into range with a snort wheeze, So I got 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: really aggressive with that. Could tell he was probably the 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: big boss in the area, big rutted up neck, biggest 81 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: year I've seen down there, and UM decided to challenge 82 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: him and that worked. He came right in. So you know, 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: there were not a lot of deer in this area. 84 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Without without sharing too much about the hunt. Very low 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: deer density. UM, So I wasn't seeing like tons of 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: chasing or scraping or anything, or sorry chasing or um 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: seeking or anything. But there was a little bit of 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: that cruising beginning. And um, like I said, calling worked 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: so as far as Nebraska, I'd give it like a 90 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: like a six or seven on the scale probably um, 91 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's just gonna get better. Yeah. Well, 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: this week on the episode, we talked to Hayden Krimmer 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: from Legendary White Tails Wisconsin, and then Hunter Forbes in 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: Kentucky from Southern White Tail Outfitters, and then Trent Siegel 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: in Kansas from Heartland Bow Hunter, and then in Georgia 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: from Georgia Field is Brian Grossman Excellence? Do we do 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: we have any themes yet in mind? Um, or anything 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: that's on your mind that you think is going to 99 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: be a theme based off of things we've seen traditionally 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: this time of year. Again, I'm gonna jump back to 101 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: last year's episodes. Last year we were hitting cold fronts 102 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: just perfectly timed. We talked about in last episode if 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: you pulled a lot of calendar and circled the dates, 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: he wanted cold fronts to rolland uh, we got them. 105 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: They were coming on the weekend. They were, you know, 106 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: happening right when some of the best running activity was happening. 107 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: That's not going to be the case this year. And 108 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: so you know, there'll be some nuanced stuff that we 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: talked about to help you kill him, ature buck. But 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: like you and Dan talked about on the getting ready 111 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: you for the Rut episode, the number one factor for 112 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: you killing a deer right now and just putting in 113 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: the time and being in the woods. Yeah, that's the truth. 114 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: And you know something that's worth noting. And this is 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: a hard lesson I learned a handful of years ago, 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: UM and me and Andy May when we were out 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: there in Nebraska, we were talking about this and how 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: we both had experienced it. Um. This being the fact 119 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: that during the rut sometimes you want to be careful 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: not to get too wrapped up in the weather conditions 121 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: and things like that and let those depress you in anyway. So, 122 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: for example, back in two thousand and fifteen, I was 123 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: out in Iowa and I was hunting, and I hit 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: this cold front and then a big warm spell came 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: through and it was gonna be in like the mid 126 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: to high seventies, and I just remember thinking, me and 127 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: all my friends were thinking, oh gosh, it's gonna ruin 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: on our rut vacation. Um, there's nothing, nothing's gonna be moving, 129 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: blah bla blah blah blah. And in most times of year, 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna see this reduction and dear activity when it gets, 131 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, unseasonably warm. And there was a reduction in 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: dear activity during that time period, but it is the rut, 133 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: and things still happened during the rut. And I because 134 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: I thought maybe I could cash in on get some 135 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: brownie points by going home, I decided to leave Iowa 136 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: for a couple of days, take care of some family 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: stuff during this warm spell, and then come back when 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: the temperatures start dropping again. During that two days that 139 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: I was gone, three of my friends all killed nice, 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: big mature bucks despite the warm weather. So it was 141 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: just a great reminder that you never want to get 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: too caught up in it during this time of year. 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: This it's it's the rut. You gotta be out there 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: whether it's seventy or thirty. Um, yeah, those colder days 145 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: might be better, but magical things can happen at any 146 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: time out there, so tree stand time is key. Yeah, 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: and that goes for the other factors outside of weather 148 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: as well. Right now, the rut trumps everything and it's 149 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: not going to get better than what it's going to 150 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: be these next few weeks. Yeah, that's the truth. So 151 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: as you you kind of alluded to it. But if 152 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: you if you missed it last week's episode of Wired Hunt, 153 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: at the end of it, me and Dan kind of 154 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: shared some main rut hunting principles, definitely check that one 155 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: out for for a couple of this high level concepts 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: to be keeping in mind during these next couple of 157 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: weeks of hunting. Um. But if you'll allow me, Spencer, 158 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: do you want to do just one or two other 159 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: quick pieces of run hunting advice while we've got people 160 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: here before the reports. My my best advice isn't necessarily 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: something you can apply right now, and it would maybe 162 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: go back to what you were doing for the last 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: few months, But my best rut advice would be to 164 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: largely stay out of the areas that you consider your 165 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: best spots and uh, you know, the places that you 166 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: think you might be sitting all day come this time 167 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: of year. Because uh, it's only going to make things 168 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: better right now if if you haven't been in there 169 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: four or five times, and uh, if you just let 170 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: your trail camera soak in there, if you haven't been 171 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: hunting it and blowing deer out, that's gonna benefit you 172 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: in the long run. And so my best rut hunting 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: advice would be to, you know, stay out and take 174 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: things easy until right out. Yeah. So so that being said, 175 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just reiterate that that stop saving stuff 176 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: just about now, like we're about time, it's about time 177 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: to go for it. Um. You know, as we get 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: into these first couple of weeks of November, now is 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the point when you need to dive in and throw 180 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: some hail Mary's. And now is the time to go 181 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: sit that betting here, and now is the time to 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: dive into that deep funnel location, sit there all day. Um, 183 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: you gotta take every little trick you go out up 184 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: your sleeve and try it now because this is that 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: that moment when you can possibly capitalize on it. Um. 186 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, put in the time, be aggressive when you 187 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: have to switch things up, and don't be afraid to 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: try new things. Um. But as I mentioned last week. 189 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Whenever you're confused or starting to get frustrated, always go 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: back to the principles of pinch points and dough betting 191 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: areas and do activity areas and those things. As long 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: as you're hunting and somehow related to something like that, 193 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna be in a good position. And then, of course, 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: like I had success a couple of days ago, calling 195 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: can be particular the effective this time of year as well. 196 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: So snort weez is if you really want to get 197 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: really aggressive, maybe some extraus bleats rattling can work now. 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: And now is the time, kind of as I've been 199 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: saying several times, now, now is the time to try 200 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: these different things. So, um, I think what I'm sensing 201 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: is that I am rambling, And when I ramble, that's 202 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: usually a good sign that I should just stop and 203 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: let you continue the show Spencer with ourt radio guests. 204 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: So that sounds a good plan for you. That sounds 205 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: like a good plan. Congrats again, Mark on the great deer. 206 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: But let's get to our first color. Sounds good. Before 207 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: we get to our first color, let's pause for a 208 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: word from our sponsors at white Tail Properties. This week. 209 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: With white Tail Properties, we are joined by Tom James, 210 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: a land specialist out of Central Indiana. And Tom is 211 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: going to be telling us about what to look for 212 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: when your goal is to flip a property. Okay, great question. 213 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Um First and foremost, looking at a good county in 214 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: your state, or even a good part of the county 215 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: that is known for producing better quality deer and that 216 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: typically easily found out in the in the state's record 217 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: book program. So those counties are typically more highly sought 218 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: after by buyers um as opposed to you know, maybe 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: counties that are off out of that parameter. So number one, 220 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: a good county, maybe even a better part of the 221 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: county that is known for producing better deer. Secondly, I 222 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: would look for property that you can pick up right 223 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: at market value and slightly under market value, obviously as 224 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: a home run, but make sure you do your homework, 225 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: find out what the comps and local local l and 226 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: is selling for. And that mixed recreational ground and that 227 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: would be timber and maybe some pasture, some tillable ground 228 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: mixed in. So number two good value at at the 229 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: current market price. And number three look at uh sometimes 230 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: an often overlooked aspect of timber that people don't know 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: A lot about is um the quality of the hardwood 232 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: species that are on the property. If you can find 233 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: eighteen inch and larger diameter trees in their specifically white oaks, 234 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: red o, walnut, cherry, um, sugar maple, the white oak 235 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: market is extremely hot right now, and anything above that 236 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: is gonna that size range is gonna return dividends that 237 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: you could use applying to paying the property back off 238 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: and also doing some great habitat work in the process 239 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: by opening up the canopy and getting some good habitat 240 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: work going on in there. If you'd like to learn 241 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Tom currently has 242 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white Tail properties dot com. Backslash James. 243 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: That's j A. M. E. S alright, and joining us 244 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: on the line first is Hayden Krimmer in Wisconsin from 245 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: legendary white Tails now Hayden in Wisconsin. What would you 246 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: say the buck activities ben lately on a scale of 247 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: one to ten UM, I would say it's about a 248 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: seven right now. Um. Starting to see some more mid 249 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: day movement with some mature box and a lot of 250 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: younger bucks on their feet cruising their own checking for 251 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: those and so the midday movement that's something you've seen 252 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: in person, or that's what your trail cameras are telling you. Yeah, 253 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: that's something I've seen in person. UM. I was out 254 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: in western Wisconsin this weekend. I saw a mature a 255 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: mature buck at fourth or four thirty on Sunday and 256 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: at eleven thirty I saw that same buck on Saturday, so, UM, 257 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: they were definitely on their feet. We also had another 258 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: guying camp who killed the buck at eleven thirty on Sunday. UM, 259 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: he was following a hot doll and UM, the action 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: was definitely picking out during mid day. So what types 261 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: of areas are you focused on for these all day 262 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: sits in Wisconsin? UM, a lot of saddles and funnels. 263 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: I also UM focused a little bit on UM just 264 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: don win areas of betting as well as food sources. 265 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: So trying to be in areas where there's a lot 266 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: of thick cover around UM and just good funnels for 267 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: them to be working through. Checknford and does so would 268 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: you say that's the exact same types of areas that 269 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: you'll be focusing for like these next few weeks. As 270 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: the running gets better, Yeah, as the running gets better, 271 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I definitely like to stay tight to betting, especially on 272 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: all day sets to feel like staying close to bedding 273 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: is the best call if there's a better chance that 274 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you're going to catch a buck on its feet checking 275 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: those areas for dose. UM. But then in the same situation, 276 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: I like to be within the vicinity of some food 277 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: sources as well, because that's typically where the doughs are 278 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna be. So you want to be in the areas 279 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: that the doughs are gonna be. Have you been doing 280 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: any calling there in Wisconsin yet? Yeah? So that in 281 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: time where I had with the mature buck at eleven 282 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: thirty on Saturday, he had came out into a cut 283 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: hay field with a dough and he worked a scrape 284 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: on the edge of the field and started working um 285 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: towards another bedding area. And when he got across the 286 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: field that I threw out a grunt at him and 287 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: he came on a bee line straight towards me. So UM, 288 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: the does Winz definitely wasn't hot since he reacted the 289 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: call like that, but it worked like the time I 290 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: grunted one time, Adam, and then UM was completely quiet 291 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: after that and he came right in. He ended up 292 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: working past me at thirty yards that couldn't get a 293 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: shot off because the bush is too sick. But that 294 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: was one of the best responses I've ever had to 295 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: grunk call. He definitely heard it and came straight in 296 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: on a string. You mentioned there that you were sitting 297 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: on a hay field. What do you think the food 298 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: sources look like right now in Wisconsin for someone looking 299 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: to kill the mature buck over these next few weeks. 300 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: Maybe that's something that people don't always consider a ware 301 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: these deer feeding. But what have you been seeing? Yeah, 302 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: so what I saw this weekend, the only time I 303 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: saw der feeding was out in the hayfield. The other 304 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: staying locations I was sitting, there wasn't a lot of UM, 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of other food around. There was some 306 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: natural brows, but I didn't see them stopping the brows 307 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: on any natural stuff. UM. A lot of the deer 308 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: I saw him the timber were if there are bucks, 309 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: their cruising looking for dose UM and then the dose 310 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: that I saw just and moved right past them, assuming 311 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: they were goingly to other food sources. UM. I think 312 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: the natural browses kind of slowed down. I think they're 313 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: switching to more of that traditional food source. And definitely 314 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: there was a lot of feel I saw in that 315 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: cut hayfield even the middle of the day two o'clock 316 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: there um frequently coming and going out of that cut hayfield. 317 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: So are you starting to see some deer now in 318 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: areas that previously had only been spots that you were 319 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: finding nocturnal movement? Um? Not really. That was the first 320 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: time they had hunted that farm this year, so I 321 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: don't have much of the reference to go off of. 322 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: But before a couple of weeks ago, I was seen 323 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: a lot of browsing on acorns and natural brows So, um, 324 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: I'd say it's transitioning more away from that. So yes, 325 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: it's it's changing going forward. Then the sex week or so, 326 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to 327 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Wisconsin? 328 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be anywhere from a nine 329 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: to ten. I think the end of October is usually 330 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: when that first deal comes into heat and then every 331 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: buck in the area is honored. So I didn't see 332 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: there was only that one hot dough that I know 333 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: from that guy in camp that ended up feeling that buck. 334 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: But there's definitely bucks moving around looking for dolls. I 335 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: think in the next couple of days here, Um, those 336 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: first early dolls are gonna start popping in. The actions 337 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: really gonna heat up. Alright, great Intel, Hayden, thanks for 338 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: on me. Thanks Spencer alright and joining us on the line. 339 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Next is Hunter Forbes from Southern White Tail Outfitters in Kentucky. 340 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: Now Hunter in Kentucky. What would you say the bucket 341 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: activities man lately? On a scale of one to ten, Man, 342 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give it around with six right now. 343 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: The way the weather has been here lately, it's just 344 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of nocturnal movement from them. Um, 345 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: daylife activity has been pretty slow. But as soon as 346 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: he's a little bit of cold frosts come through, was 347 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: gonna be kicking off and be getting a little bit 348 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: better for us. Up to this point, I might give 349 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: it about a six. And so do you see any 350 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: of that promising whether on the way that might turn 351 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: things around? Right now as I'm doing this at seventy 352 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: seven degrees, honest, it's Warman's blowing hard out of the south. 353 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: Looks like a couple of days of rain, and then 354 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: towards the end of this week, we should have a 355 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: couple of days that we're really looking forward to being 356 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: an industry on. Well, looks like you guys have had 357 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: some success in Southern white tail outfitters. What have those 358 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: set up spend like lately? Everything's been so unpredictable for us. 359 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the have been seen just quiet, 360 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: you know our range. Um, the set up set that 361 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: we've been killing them all lately is really been taking 362 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: advantage of using some like different cell cams and we've 363 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: been able to focus on where you see buck movement 364 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: between five and six in the morning, some somewhere right 365 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: there where they're gonna bed near it, and it hadn't 366 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: been consistent, but um, the deal that we've been able 367 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: to take have been pretty much where they stand up 368 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: in the afternoons and then to make their way a 369 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: little bit of food before they start looking for some 370 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: does if we have been having the most of our 371 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: success so you've been right on top of their bedding 372 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: then or closer to the food source that they've been 373 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: hitting in between if we can. You know, every farm 374 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: and set ups can be a little different with how 375 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: access is and how you can get in there on 376 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: them um, but the closer the better, and it's just 377 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: it has been changing so much, they're really unpredictable. Um. 378 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: But with that little bit information because a lot of 379 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: times that if we don't have any kind of mobile 380 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: unit on the camera, we're checking in. We're seeing where 381 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: we should have been, you know, three and four days ago, 382 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: and it's not that most recent information. The biggest thing 383 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: is they've definitely out of their patterns and they're slow 384 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: really getting there to start looking for those. You know, 385 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the younger bucks are starting bump them around a little bit, 386 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: but the mature bucks have been I'm gonna say, of 387 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: a movement spent at night and if you catch them 388 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: in that timber sent it's gonna be on one of 389 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: those other day after the front. As we've seen most 390 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: of our deer, the deer that you guys have been killing. 391 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Are those bucks that you've been familiar with or are 392 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: you starting to see a lot of mature white tail 393 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: start to move in there that maybe you haven't seen 394 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: since summer or have never seen it at all. It's 395 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: been deer that we're familiar with, you know, and it's 396 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: until last night. I'm gonna say last night was the 397 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: breakthrough night going through pictures and everything of of seeing 398 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: new mature bucks. Um, I've noticed the past three or 399 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: four days we've been picking up some no younger through 400 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: and a half yold year that we're unfamiliar with. The 401 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: last night was the first night and I've been probably 402 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: on six or seven cameras we had new mature bucks 403 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: show up. Of course I said it was at night. 404 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: By that's the step in the right direction that we're 405 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: looking for. Have you or any of the hunters and 406 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: camp been doing any calling yet, Yes, they have been 407 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: and had some little bucks respond to it. Um. We 408 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: had a theory that was missed with the muzzle letter 409 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: that was actually grunted in he saw him, you know, 410 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: well across the field. Um grunted a few times than 411 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: dear did come in to where he had a shot opportunity. 412 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: So it is working, you know, time and place. As 413 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: we get into the best part of the season where uh, 414 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, the rutting activity peaks. What were your setups 415 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: look like then? Will they be different than what you've 416 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: been doing lately or will they be a lot of 417 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: the same stuff between feet and bed Um, it will 418 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit differently. I'll say, we have been 419 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: taking advantage of scrape lines right after these rains and 420 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: around the front. Um, that's that same area. Get them 421 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the bed and going to the scrape, 422 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: going to food, that whole transition area. UM, we're trying 423 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: to keep those as happy as possible on us, UM, 424 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: get them super comfortable. And I'd say as we go 425 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: closer to the rut, we're gonna be having those food 426 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: sources where we have the most those Are those scrape 427 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: lines going to be relevant for you guys a little 428 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: while yet or is that something you start to not 429 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: pay attention to as we hit November. Hey, we're with 430 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: the mature bucks. I still haven't seen a lot of 431 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: mature bucks um using them in the day. So I 432 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: think we have, you know, the better scrape hunting still 433 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: in front of us. And it's very likely this this 434 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: weekend when that's gonna get right for us. UM. But 435 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: I'd say within the next week we're still gonna be 436 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: on that as best we can. And then and then 437 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: from there we're gonna be going, you know, more of 438 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: the food sources, especially in the evenings going forward. Then 439 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: the sixt week or so, what do you think that 440 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: bucket activity is going to be on a scale of 441 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: one to ten in Kentucky. I'm gonna give us an 442 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: eight for the weekend. I think that's gonna be the 443 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: first one that we're really going to see some mature 444 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: bucks on their feet and doing what they're supposed to 445 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: be doing. All right, hunted, Well, good luck to you 446 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: and the guys in camp. Thanks for joining me. Thank 447 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: you Spencer alright and joining us on the line. Next 448 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: is Trent Siegel and Kansas from Heartland Bowl Hunter. Trent 449 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: in Kansas, what would you say the bucket activity has 450 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, I'd 451 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: say it's been really good, probably like UM an eight 452 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: or nine. As far as daylight and what are you 453 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: basing that off of your trail cameras or some sightings 454 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: that you've had while hunting lately, Both trail cameras have 455 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: have definitely had a decent amount of daylight activity and 456 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: then hunting and seen some good bucks. And then another 457 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: indicator that we all kind of see nowadays is um 458 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: just a number of bucks that are dropping um around 459 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: our hometowns on on social media. So a lot of 460 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the great planes lately has been dealing with excess precipitation 461 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of delayed harvest. Are you saying that in Kansas? 462 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: And what are maybe some of the repercussions from that 463 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: with that late harvest? So the biggest thing that I've 464 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: noticed is, Yeah, most all of our crops are still in. 465 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: We got it like record rainfalls earlier this month and 466 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: fields are still muddy, crops are still standing. And and 467 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: just what I've noticed is, UM, it's been a delay 468 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: in getting bucks on camera on properties that UM show 469 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: have shown up by now, I guess in years past 470 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: UM and ones that I know made it through season 471 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: last year I haven't had on camera yet UM. And 472 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I I think it's just because the crops aren't out. 473 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Is So what phase of it rout would you say 474 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: we're in right now? Pre rod seeking and chasing? What 475 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: do you think is going on in Kansas? I honestly 476 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: think UM definitely seeking chasing, and I think there's those 477 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: that are getting read right now. UM. I've noticed last 478 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: week there is a lot of good daylight activity and 479 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: mature bucks UM. And then now it seems like it's 480 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: it's very sporadic and I'm seeing a lot of fonds 481 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: on cameras and then out hunting too that are by themselves. 482 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Um So, I mean, I think their moms are are 483 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: locked up with some bucks and it's going to be 484 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: that stage where we're just trying to catch those big 485 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: mature books in between those. Now with it looking like 486 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: the ruddy is maybe going a little bit sooner, what 487 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: would you attribute that too? You know, I deer hunting 488 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: is a funny I don't know, just a funny game 489 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: we play. I never used to believe the moon had 490 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: anything to do with it, but um, this year was 491 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: one of the earliest harvest moons or second full moon 492 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: after the um the fall equinox, and I think, I 493 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: mean that's the only thing that I can attribute differently 494 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: this year. And then obviously the rainfall and stuff that. Um, 495 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: I do think the moon maybe has something to do 496 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: with it this year that it's kind of it's definitely 497 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: an early rut. Um, they're a big deer dropping like crazy. Um, 498 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: just in the last week and a half. What strategies 499 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: are you using right now with calling when you do 500 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: some blind rattling and said had success for you in 501 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: the past in late October? Yeah, absolutely, Um, it's it's 502 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: definitely the time to be doing some grunting and rattling. Um, 503 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying, and it about every sit Um I did 504 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: see two bucks, um weren't actually the best buck fight 505 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in person. Um a week ago this 506 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: past Sunday, So just like eight nine days ago. Um, 507 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: it was just two nice like two year old just 508 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean fighting until they were trying to kill each 509 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: other basically. I mean it was an awesome light. So 510 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely time to be hitting their horns together 511 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: and and doing some callings with some more extreme running 512 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: activ that you've seen. Do you think, uh, signmaking is 513 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: no longer relevant? Are you still seeing a lot of 514 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: fresh sign in the woods? I think it's still relevant. 515 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: And I'm still getting a lot of um nice box 516 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: on scrapes. Um still hit the mock scrapes. You know, 517 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I've never tried until this year that putting the scrape 518 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: trees out in front of some stands and some food 519 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: plots and hunted over one of those the other night 520 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: and and had a lot of good luck, and pretty 521 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: much every dyear coming in the plot came right to 522 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: that scrape tree. Even the doughes, we're going over to it. 523 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: And and kind of sent checking in and stuff. So, um, 524 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: there's that they're definitely doing that. It's one of their 525 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: main ways of communication. I feel like, um, in a 526 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: great way to get some most recent information. As some 527 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: of the guys like to say, get their cameras on 528 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: there going forward. Then this s next week or so 529 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket ATV is going to 530 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Kansas, 531 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say it's it's only gonna get you know, 532 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: stay just as good or get better. M It's it's 533 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: supposed to get colder. Um, the moon is going to 534 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: be a little less full, which I always think it's 535 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: easier to hunt. And you know with the the month 536 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: turns or the calendar turns to November, so it's it's 537 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: gonna be that magical time. So um, that time we 538 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: all dream of all year long. So it's it's gonna 539 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: be rocking channel hit history is any indicator you're gonna 540 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: have a big sucked down with your bow here pretty soon, 541 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: So good luck and next for joining me, thanks a lot, man, 542 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: same to you to have a good dress your fall 543 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: alright and joining us on the line. Next is Brian Grossman, 544 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: from Georgia, Field in Georgia, now Brian and Georgia. What 545 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: would you say the bucket activity has been lately on 546 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would say, on 547 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: on a scale one to ten, I would I'd say 548 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: a six. Right now, Um, we're really starting to see 549 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: a lot of new scrapes pop up. Um, starting to 550 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: get some reports of you know, seeing some some young 551 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: deer chasing, uh that kind of activity. More dear, I 552 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: put out a mock scrape here behind my house a 553 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: few days ago, and uh seeing a lot of different 554 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: bucks showing up checking that out. And actually, I guess 555 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: the last night I caught a ten second video clip 556 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: of a little buck chasing a dough. He chased your 557 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: past the camera twice in a ten second time frame, 558 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: so he was he was definitely uh going after But um, 559 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, no no reports yet of really any mature 560 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: bucks chasing or you know, any serious red sign yet. 561 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Would you say a six out of ten is normal 562 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: for late October in Georgia? Yeah, yeah, I mean I 563 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: think some things seem to be progressing about like you 564 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: would expect this time of year. He says, this is 565 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: about the time you kind of see a peak and 566 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: scrape activity and uh you know, rubs and and start 567 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: seeing those younger bucks, you know, showing the first interest 568 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: of kind of chasing after some doves. What are some 569 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: of the food sources to focus on right now in Georgia? Uh, 570 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: still heavily on white okay corns this time of year, 571 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: and of course you know some red okay corns too. 572 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Of course we're you know in uh agricultural areas are 573 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: still be you know, hanging out in agricultural fields, green fields, 574 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: and that's that's pretty much acorns right now. As we 575 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: get into the best hunting of the season these next 576 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, as bucks start to run more, is 577 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: that the same food source that you'll focus on all 578 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the way through then or will that change as far 579 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: as food somewhurce especially and that I'm not you know, 580 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: really in an agricultural area here of Georgia. UM, so yeah, 581 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: it'll it'll still you know, rely heavily on on white oaks. Um. 582 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm trying to uh take a note 583 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: from the these uh the public layer that just the 584 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: uh dining public guys, and trying a little more getting 585 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: in closer to betting areas and and uh seeing a 586 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: suttle work a little better than the house in the past. 587 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Have you been seeing any new bucks show up on 588 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: trail camera? It's kind of that time of the season 589 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: where you might start to see some deer that you 590 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: have seen some the summer, or maybe never seen it 591 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I am, um, I'm running a couple 592 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: of trail cameras on a small nineteen akers here behind 593 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: my house and just seeing really for the size of 594 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: the property to seeing an incredible number of bucks starting 595 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: to show up here in the last two weeks. Um, 596 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: nothing only only one, you know, really noteworthy, but just 597 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: a lot of different bucks, young bucks. Going forward, then 598 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: in the six week or so, what do you think 599 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: that buck activity will be on a scale of one 600 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: to ten in Georgia? Hopefully here in the next week. 601 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean that it should only get better, so maybe 602 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: you know an eight. Um. Right now, we've we've hit 603 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: a little warm snap. It's been those mid seventies today, 604 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be eighty tomorrow. So you know that 605 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: that does seem just from my what I've seen, Uh, 606 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: it seems to have suppressed some of the daytime you know, 607 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: buck moving or daytime dear move um certainly isn't gonna 608 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, affect the timing of the rut, but it 609 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: can't affect daytime activity. Um, and it seems to have 610 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: done that, but it is supposed to. We got a 611 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: co front coming on Thursday. It's gonna dump a bunch 612 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: of rain and then our temperatures are gonna be back 613 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: down to you know, more in line with what they 614 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: should be this time of year. So hopefully, you know, 615 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: with with that cooler weather and just the normal timing 616 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: of the rut here where I am at, thanks should 617 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: start getting good. All right, Brian will thanks for joining me, 618 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: and good luck this season. Sorry, thank you, Spencer, And 619 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: that concludes this week's episode of Wired Haunts Radio. Thanks 620 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: to Hayden Hunter, Trent and Brian for joining me, and 621 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. As always, make sure you're 622 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: following Wired to Hunt on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube, 623 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: and follow me Spencer Newarth and my blog Rut Fresh 624 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. The next time 625 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: I talk to you, guys, it will be sweet November, 626 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: and I am stoked for what's to come on radio 627 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: and in the woods, stay Weird to Hunt