1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interacted Burger Studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: day Break for Thursday, January twelve. Coming up this hour, 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: new questions for the f a A after that system 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: meltdown held up thousands of flights. Pressure amounts on President 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Biden after a second batch of classified documents has found 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Wall Street braces for this morning's inflation report and sandwich 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: chain subway maybe up for sale. There's word of attentative 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: agreement in the fourth day of a nurse's strike in 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: New York City hospitals. Plus calls are growing for New 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: York Congressman George Santos to resign. I'm Michael Barr more ahead, 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm John staf Showard Sports Jalen Brunson lived the next 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: to a home win over in Vienna. A change on 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the Jets coaching stand. That's all s tradyhead on Bloomberg 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Daybreak on Bloomberg eleven three, on New York, Bloomberg one, Washington, 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg one oh six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: sixties and Francisco Sirius x M one nineteen and around 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: the world the Bloomberg Radio dot Com and via the 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagar and I'm 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Karin Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. We're 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: learning more about yesterday's air traffic meltdown and how a 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: computer failure caused a cascading series of problems. Amy Morris 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: has the latest from our Bloomberg newsroom in Washington. Federal 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: officials say this was not a cyber attack. It was 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: a corrupted file caused by an engineer who replaced one 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: file with another by mistake. Transportation Secretary Pete Buddha Jedge 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: tells CBS that the investigation is ongoing. We will not 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: allow anything to take place that is not safe. But 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: this is precisely why our focus right now is on understanding, identifying, 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: and correcting anything related to the root cause of how 30 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: this happened at the first place. Now, sources tell Bloomberg 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: the problem which impacted the notice to air missions are 32 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: no TAMP system also caused a failure in a related 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: backup system, resulting in thousands of delayed and canceled flights 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: in Washington. I'm Amy Morris, Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Amy, 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: thank you. Now, another major story we're following out of 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: Washington This morning, President Joe Biden's aides have found another 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: set of classified documents. This time they were found in 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: a separate location from the first, and Bloomberg said Baxter 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: has that story. Aids have been scouring offices of Mr 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Biden used after his vice presidency, according to multiple media reports, 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: this after the finding of classified documents in Pennsylvania. It's 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: not clear when these were found and whether they've been 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: returned to the National Archives, as the first ones were 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: White House spokes when Karine Jean Pierre says the White 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: House will do the proper thing. We're committed to doing 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the right thing. Uh, doing the doing this in the 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: right way, and says these fines are not akin to 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump taking classified files tomorrow. Lago House Speaker Kevin 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: McCarthy has accused the Department of Justice of giving President 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Biden preferential treatment in San Francisco. I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak, 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Turning to markets now, stocks are coming off 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: two straight days of gains and there is optimism that 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: softening inflation will lead the Fed to change gears on 54 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: rate hikes. Yr Denny Research President Edyard Denny thinks the 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: worst of the market sell off is now behind us. 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: I think we made a low on October twelfth in 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: the market. I think that was the end of the 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: bear market, and I think we're back in a bull market. 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Not straight up, a lot of volatility, but I think 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: the markets are telling us that the world economy is improving. 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Ed Yar Denny made those comments on Bloomberg Surveillance. You 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: can catch the show weekdays at seven am All Street 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: time on Bloomberg Radio and subscribe to Surveillance anywhere you 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Of course, nathany immediate direction of markets 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: will be greatly impacted by this morning's inflation report, and 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: we get a preview from Bloomberg Economics correspondent Michael McKee. 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Old data may help the Fed make a new decision 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: next month. Economists think December may have seen the first 69 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: decline in the consumer Price Index since May. While the 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: drop would be largely a result of falling energy prices, 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it signal progress in the feds fight against inflation. And 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: while core prices are forecast to have ticked up a 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: bit last month, both corps and headline CPI should drop 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: significantly compared with last year. That likely would lead Fed 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: officials to dial back their next rate increase to just 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: a quarter percentage point on February one. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak, 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: All right, Mike, thanks. We also got inflation numbers out 78 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: of Asia overnight. China's factory gate deflation narrowed in December, 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: even as COVID infections slowed plant operations. Bloomberg Daybreak Asia 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: anchor Brian Curtis has more from Hong Kong. The PPI 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: dropped zero point seven percent, the estimate minus zero point 82 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: one percent. Consumer prices ticked up one point eight percent, 83 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: which was in line with estimates. The sudden end to 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: COVID zero slowed factory operations as workers called in sick. 85 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: Officials say the reopening gains will gather momentum and both 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: consumer and producer prices will warm up, but they say 87 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: overall inflation remains mild in Hong Kong. Priyan Curtis, Bloomberg 88 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: da Break, Right, Brian, thank you. One other note out 89 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: of Asia this morning, China has not updated its daily 90 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: COVID data for three days. That's adding to global concerns 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: that Beijing is masking the true impact of the world's 92 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: largest outbreak. The World Health Organization is renewing its call 93 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: for more COVID data from China, and we got a 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: couple of corporate story step take you this morning on 95 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: Karen's Starting with Subway, there's where the sandwich chain maybe 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: considering a sale Bloomberg. Jeff Balinger has the story. Subway 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: has long been a potential target for private equity firms 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: and other companies, and a person familiar with the matter 99 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: tells Bloomberg the scent which chain is exploring a potential deal. 100 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: A sale could value Subway at more than ten billion dollars. 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: The process is said to be in the early stages, 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and Subway could still decide against a sale, and emailed 103 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: statement from Subway notes it is a privately held company 104 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: and it does not comment on its business plans. Jeff Bellinger, 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg day Break Right, Jeff, thank you. Bloomberg News has 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: also learned that T Mobile may buy a budget wireless 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: carrier back by actor Ryan Reynolds, Mint Mobile. We're told 108 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: T Mobile has been holding talks with mint but no 109 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: final decision has been made. Reynolds owns about one fourth 110 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: of the company, and Disney is preparing for a proxy 111 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: war with activist investor Nelson pelts Peltz nominated himself to 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: the board and what could become a highly public debate 113 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: over CEO Bob Iger's leadership. At the same time, the 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: executive chair of Nike, Mark Parker, will take over as 115 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: Disney's chairman. Parker will advise Eiger and the board in 116 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: finding the CEO's replacement. Straight ahead, your latest local headlines 117 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: plus a check of sports. This is Bloomberg starting nine 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: degrees in Central Park right now. We're expecting scattered showers 119 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: today behind your fifty. Temperatures are gonna rise a bit 120 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: tonight as the rain and a breeze continue. Time to 121 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the other stories now 122 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: making news in New York and around the world, with 123 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael Bark. Good morning, Michael, Good morning Nathan. There 124 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: are reports of a possible tentative agreement overnight as we 125 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: enter day four of a nurse's strike in New York City. 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: As according to ABC seven, the nurses union and administrators 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: from the two hospitals effected have been negotiating. Roughly seven 128 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: thousand nurses from Mount Sinai in Manhattan and Montefiore in 129 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: the Bronx went on strike, calling for better patient to 130 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: staff ratios. This nurse said. Montafiora says that the COVID 131 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic put stress on an already strained healthcare system. 132 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: We don't have a normal yet in healthcare because we 133 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: are still grappling with the effects of the pandemic, and 134 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: part of that is how much management is demanding of 135 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: nurses that is simply unsafe and not beneficial to the patients. 136 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: We are serving no word yet on any details of 137 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: the tentative pact. Embattled Republican Congressman George Santos of New 138 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: York is facing more calls to step down. Speaker Kevin 139 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: McCarthy declined to call for santos resignation on Capitol Hill, 140 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: and Santos says he won't step down. I will know 141 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: this as Republicans from his Long Island district called for 142 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: him to resign. The head of the party in Nassau County, 143 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: Joseph Cairo Jr. Says Santos ran a campaign of lies, deceit, 144 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: and fabrications. He disgraced the House of Representatives, and in particular, 145 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: his fabrications went too far. Many groups were hurt. Specifically, 146 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: I look at those families that were touched by the 147 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: horrors of the Holocaust and feel for them. The gops 148 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: Joseph Cairo as federal prosecutors are looking into santos his 149 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: financial disclosures after he admitted to lying about many parts 150 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: of his resume ahead of winning his seat. Thousands have 151 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: been evacuated in northern California, which has been hit by 152 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: days of heavy rain and powerful wind, with entire towns 153 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: under water. The death toll is now at least eighteen 154 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: over the past two weeks. Most of California received up 155 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: to six of its normal rainfall. A guitar powerhouse has 156 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: gone Jeff Beck, who pushed the boundaries of blues, jazz, 157 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: and rock and roll. As time, Jeff Beck was global 158 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: news twenty four hours a day on air and on 159 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Quicktake, powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists 160 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: and analysts more than a hundred twenty countries. Michael Barr 161 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: and this is Bloomberg. Nathan. All right, Michael, thanks time 162 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: for the Bloomberg Sports update, brought to you by Trice 163 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: stayed Out. Good morning, John stash Hour, Good morning, Nathan Knicks. 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Back at the Garden two nights after they blew us 165 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: seventeen point third quarter lead, and nearly happened again. Nicks 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: went from up five up only two. What a seven 167 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: nothing run games ceiling three pointer by Quentin Grimes. Nicks 168 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: beat Indiana one nineteen one thirteen of the big game 169 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: for Jalen Brunts, and he followed up his forty four 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: point game with thirty four more. R J. Barrett returned 171 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: from his finger injury to score twenty seven and Knicks 172 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: visit Washington tomorrow. The NETS's Boston tonight battle the top 173 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: two teams in the East. Rangers and Islanders both have 174 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: home games tonight as well. College hoops Ructors at Northwestern 175 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Cam Spencer twenty three points. He made six of seven 176 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: three pointers. Carlos Correa passed his physical in Minnesota, something 177 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: that did not happen with the Mets or Giants. Robert 178 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: Sale goes way back with his offensive pointer. Mike Lafleur, 179 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: but la Fleur coach the Jets offense that was dreadful, 180 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: especially down the stretch, and Salah fired. La Fleur, whose 181 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: brother is the head coach at Dream Bay, asked for 182 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: Giants coach Brian day Ball. He was asked if making 183 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: the playoffs was the goal at the start, goal is 184 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna come out every season and beating lousy. It's to 185 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: improve and keep competing and win as many football games 186 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: as you can. You know, our foundation is built on 187 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: our consistency, our approach, our work ethic, how we do 188 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: things on and off the field, all those type of things. 189 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: And again, you know, like I say every week, I 190 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: can live with the with the results. I don't like him. 191 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: I can live with them if we're doing the right stuff. 192 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: It's Giants and Vikings Sunday in Minnesota, playoff game between 193 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: two teams who both were outscored to the regular season. 194 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: John Stash, Bloomberg Sports, Nathan thank John Bloomberg Sports was 195 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by Audie. Don't let someone else drive 196 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: off in the Audi model you've always wanted. Visit your 197 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: local Tri state Audie dealer to get behind the wheel 198 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: of yours today, or visit Autie Offers dot com for 199 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: more information. We'll hear about the potential Washington reaction to 200 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the airport meltdown. Just to head first, SMP futures are 201 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: down two points down, futures down fourteen, NASTAC futures down 202 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: nine points ten, Your treasuries down one thirty second yield 203 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: three point five percent, and the yield on the two 204 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: year is four point to four percent. As we wait 205 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: CPI data eight thirty Wall Street Time live from coast 206 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: to coast, from New York to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, 207 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: d C. Nationwide on sirius xamp, the Bloomberg Business app, 208 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. 209 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Haygar on a morning when the Biden administration 210 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: is facing pressure on policy and political fronts. First, on policy, 211 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: lots of questions for the Federal Aviation Administration this morning, 212 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: after that system meltdown that stranded thousands of flights across 213 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the country. And on politics, another batch of classified documents 214 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: could give Republicans more fodder to use against the president. 215 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: From more on all this, We're joined by Terry Haynes, 216 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: founder of PANGEA Policy. Terry, it's good to speak with you. 217 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with the f a A. What does this 218 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: flight system meltdown mean when it comes to the effectiveness 219 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: of the regulators whose goal it is, whose job it 220 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: is to keep passengers safe in the air. Good morning, Nathan. 221 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: A couple of things on that one. Uh. Uh yeah, 222 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: kudos to them in the for for at least stepping 223 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: up and been doing the right thing when they when 224 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: they saw something go haywire. Uh. That inconvenienced an awful 225 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of people. But uh, but it was the right 226 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: decision to take. Uh. So you know firstly that Secondly, 227 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I think we're about to find out whether Secretary Buddhas 228 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: is an active or reactive Secretary of Transportation. What you 229 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: got here is uh a situation where the the oversight 230 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: of the department on the f A and the FA 231 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: itself looks much more passive than active. Uh. Bloomberg has 232 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: been doing some excellent reporting on this, by the way, 233 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and the one of the things that your reporter's note 234 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: is that, uh, the agency has been in the process 235 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: of updating this no TAM system, but the upgrade is 236 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: behind schedule, apparently in in part because of cuts and 237 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: funding to the agency's technology budget. And uh and the 238 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: system that failed was based on older technology. So UH, 239 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: the department, I think is gonna in the Secretary himself, 240 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: since he's been there for two years, is going to 241 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions the answer about what the 242 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: department's priorities are and frankly, why they're not uh, why 243 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: they're not paying better attention to make sure that the 244 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: pipes that that link the transportation systems all to get 245 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: other aren't leaking and in fact or state of the art. Well, 246 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: what do you need to see, Terry, in order to 247 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: show that the f A is making progress in keeping 248 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: its systems up to date? Uh, Well, they're gonna have 249 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: to do on a whole lot more. They're gonna have 250 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: to uh, pour a lot more money into technology. And 251 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: that's a decision for the Secretary and for for Congress, 252 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: to the extent the Congress is involved in making the cuts, 253 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: but certainly for the Secretary, who can reprogram some money. Uh. 254 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, if I were them, I'd be 255 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: I'd be interested in doing a task force that made 256 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: it clear substantially and made it clear to the public 257 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: that fixing this and making it making the system overall 258 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: better is the top priority of the agency. Um. And 259 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: it's not clear that it is right now. I want 260 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: to move to this report of another set of classified 261 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: documents reportedly found at another office the President Biden used 262 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: while he was out of office. Is this going to 263 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: be tougher for the President to explain it already is 264 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: you know glass houses. Huh. A lot of a lot 265 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: of people, including uh, including this network who uh you know, 266 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: brought out all the all the outrage that Biden expressed 267 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: about the things that Trump was doing. I'm not meaning to, 268 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: uh to suggest equivalency here. There's two there's strengthly too 269 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: much we don't know. But the behavior so far, I 270 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: think is is troubling. In out of trouble anybody who's 271 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: a supporter of the president's You've got before the even 272 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: the first uh revelation if two to three months lag 273 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: here in uh in talking about it publicly, which is curious. Um, 274 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: and there's no comment at all on on you know 275 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: what or why these problems are existing and UH, and 276 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: it's very strange that you've got a situation, you know, 277 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: over two years or about two years after the president 278 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: became president, that there's still offices around that are that 279 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: have documents and of any kind of I mean, I 280 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: don't understand what they're doing with that. Uh. So you know, 281 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: there's a bigger story here. No nobody knows what it 282 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: is right now. I think Congress will play some role 283 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: in getting to the bottom of that. But UH, and 284 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I think frankly the press will too. But White House 285 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: is behind the eight ball on this so far. Only 286 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: about thirty seconds left here, Terry. But the Republicans have 287 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: said that they're going to investigate the president on multiple fronts. 288 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Does this turn into a main focus for them? It'll 289 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: turn into a big a much bigger focus than it 290 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: had before. It is a matter of going back to 291 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the not meaning to compare this to water Gate, of course, 292 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: but going back to the Watergate days. 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