WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Last Week of OTAs 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:16.119 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.400 Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:20.960 for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:22.920 Ready for a break? 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.319 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.720 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:37.520 with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.479 It is Wednesday, June fourth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.360 episode number thirteen. Welcome to LED's edition of breakwere live 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.080 from that s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star Wars 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.239 presented by LG. 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This is the next to last show Man. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:02.000 We got a whole group of people out here watching 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.920 kids from the neighborhood come through to see what we're 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.039 doing here on the air, here on the break. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.119 You don't want to do for a living for kids, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.880 go make some money and happy in. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.959 School, eat your vegetables, eight hours asleep. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.760 There you go, there you go, you vitamins, there you 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.000 take vitamins. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:20.440 I haven't. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:20.840 I don't. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.480 I haven't taken vitamins. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.800 Growing up Flintstones, vitamins. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.760 From National I don't know if they have vitamins and Nationals. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:27.760 I don't know they do. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.440 My mom grew up there, and yes, I assume they have. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.280 I ain't seeing. No, we just got it naturally. We 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.119 would just eat our vegetables and that's where we'll get 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:35.640 them from there. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.760 You go, Hey, that works all right. This is our 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:38.560 next to last show. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.840 We only have one more show before we take a 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:41.720 little break here. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:47.800 Wow, yeah, that's amazing watching working to check us out 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.320 are Yeah, no worry about and we'll take. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.280 I always believe that during certain times of the year, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.200 and this is the only time of the year when 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.480 the team goes away. The only time we really have 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.680 anything to talk about regarding the team is if something 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.440 bad happens. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.120 Yeah, that gave me. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.280 You have no idea how you just changed my life. Really, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.120 you gave me amazing news. Yes, well good, yeah, have 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:10.600 you done this? 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:11.880 You know, we take a break. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.440 For us forget. I'm just you know, I just yeah, 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.960 the timeline wasn't time and anyway, we'll see. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.799 A well we have we have we have this week 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.720 and we have next week, and then we're gonna move 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.600 on and get ready for training camp, and we'll be 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.320 out in training camp later in July, and we'll have 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.000 lots of shows teeing up at that time, and then 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.239 obviously kicking off the season went back to our normal 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.240 daily schedule once we hit September. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:35.600 Today, though, I want to. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.400 Talk a little bit about the OTAs that have been 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.840 happening over the last couple of weeks. We had some 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.640 media availability yesterday, and where I want to start. I 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.960 have a few observations, just things that that were either 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.400 said or were noticed yesterday, and uh, there aren't questions. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:51.960 I'm just gonna throw them out and I'm just gonna 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.079 free for all and let you guys talk about whatever 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:55.040 those observations are. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.000 Let's start for know, your talent is what you do 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:57.400 I do. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.960 Uh, let's start first with my comparisons. He was at 0:02:59.960 --> 0:03:02.040 the Star but did not practiced yesterday. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:02.560 Uh. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.560 He is expected though, to be here next week for 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.000 the management as he said, he mentioned that he expects 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:08.480 to be here. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:08.960 Uh. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.600 Stephen Jones was asked about his absence and whether it bothering. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:12.680 His quote was no. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.880 As part of the business all teams go through it 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.360 and that's part of the business. 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.120 Thoughts man, he said, I don't want to hear this 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.440 no more. I don't want to hear any more question 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.760 the the What is he the vice president of co? 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:25.720 What is it like? 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:30.080 Like, what's his title Stephen Jones' title? I think it 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.000 is co something something you know, player person. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.840 He's definitely sweet, an owner and. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.440 Something something fancy see Cowboys doesn't want to talk about 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.120 Michael Parsons no more so. I imagine that it is frustrating. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.920 I imagine that he's sick of hearing about it. But 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:46.800 what you're gonna do? 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:47.120 Player? 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.080 I mean you you you're gonna give him what they're 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.600 asking for? Or are we gonna continue to play chicken? 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.640 I think with certain kind of players, I don't think 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.200 you should negotiate or you you you shouldn't try to well, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.600 can you let me slide on a million here? A 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.240 million there? Michael Parsons is arguably one of the best 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.160 players in football, not just defense, not just edge, the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.400 whole football. You can nickel and dime Donovan Willis. I 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.280 ain't want to say now you can nickel and dime 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.560 some other players. You can nickel and dime some of 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.120 your new linebackers that you just brought in here vet 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.480 minimum these guys, get ahead of it, Stephen Jones, get 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.800 ahead of it. Pay them whatever they want, whatever stupid 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.599 amount of money that's gonna make him the highest paid 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.760 player on defense. TJ. Watter pass it in a little bit. 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.160 Somebody else is passing a little bit. Some new defensive 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.120 player will make that a deal in five years time. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.160 So let's let's stop playing today. Let's stop. Let me 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.520 ask this question. That's this question. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.320 You're making an assumption sure that whatever the hold up is, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:42.960 or the reason why the deal hasn't gotten done is 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:43.599 because of money. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.039 If I was Steve, are you certain that that's the case. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.000 If I was Steven, I will say it. I would like, Hey, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.039 they don't like X y Z. The money's there, we're 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.320 offering them because they want. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:52.560 To play the no I heard you said. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.440 I'm saying, are you sure that that's the case. I 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.920 don't know nothing, because okay, so I guess the point 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.479 the point I don't want to in this hall, and 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.080 I can't leave this hall. I don't know care get 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.320 I guess the point of what I'm saying. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.960 The debate team so I just think I think the 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:07.640 seats no. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.280 I think we have to be careful when we make 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.680 assumptions on this kind of stuff, because we've seen in 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.760 the past that some of these things get held up 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.240 and they find out later the money wasn't issue, there 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.719 were other things that will be negotiated by the way, Brian, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:19.160 you've seen this. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.240 These contracts have a lot of stuff in them. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.320 There's a lot of language and a lot of stipulation, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.640 and sometimes those are the things that hold up a 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:27.799 deal more so than the money. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.440 So even if in the contract somewhere there ask me, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:32.160 even in. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.159 The d of the contracts, he said, Brian, you know 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.320 these contracts, if Michael Parsons want to escalate per year, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.360 it's just say Noah, say yeah. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.279 That's where I'm able to say no, saying. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.760 What if he's dug in, I want to escalate and 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.640 they're like, well, they not give you escalated with giving 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:47.440 you sixty million. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.000 Dollars whatever the number is is the is the best 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.000 player in football worth the newest escalade per year? And 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.320 if not, you move on. You call somebody, see if 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.160 you can get some some draft picks for one of 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.320 the best players in the whole league and just and 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.560 just go from there. But if not, he is do 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:01.880 what you gotta do is gonna stick. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.200 You gonna get Steven Jones. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:04.720 You gonna get whooped in the gun. 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.920 Stephen Jones is frustrated right now. He's frustrated, Lewis. He 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.080 can't and you know, you cannot. He cannot catch a break. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.280 And here everybody's gonna sell it broad us your you're 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.120 you're going for the Jones is here today. Now, I'll 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.000 tell you the side of it that I believe is 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.600 the fact that he is in a situation where he 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.799 cannot get contracts to get staggered. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:24.560 He can't. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.240 He's got two three contracts he has to work on 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:28.400 every single year. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.880 He can't get the contract staggered. And all of a sudden, now. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.320 He's in a in a in a little bit of 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.600 a of a little bit of a situation where all 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.480 of a sudden he's had to pay for the highest paid. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.039 He's had to put out the money for the highest paid. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.800 You know the thing with Lamb that turned into negotiation 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.680 and it was a holdout and all that he got 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.000 the OsO Diggy Zoo a deal done because they went 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.480 under market. Valve he got digs money done because they 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.360 went under a little bit under market value. I think 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.120 Stephen Jones will negotiate with you. I think you have 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.960 to also look at the other side. I think you 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.080 have to look at David Llagetta in this situation. Why 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.800 would David Mulligetta even want to take your call. He 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.600 knows what he knows what the guy got at the Raiders, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.640 he knows what the guy got at the Browns. He's 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.920 thinking probably that ballpark. Stephen Jones is now in a 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.120 situation where like, even if I keep trying to make 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.760 offers to these guys, they're going to continue to say no, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.800 They're just gonna David Mulligetta has no reason to take 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.800 his call. That would be very frustrating to me. If 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.280 I was going to try and negotiate a deal like 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.600 this one and say, listen, see if I could bring 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.880 this thing in at thirty seven to five instead of 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.600 forty forty one or forty two, that would be very 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.680 frustrating to me. I think that now you have agents 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.480 that know that the cowboys are over a barrel, and 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.920 when it comes to these negotiations, they've done a great 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.200 job of assimbling players for their roster. A great job. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:50.960 Now it comes to having to pay him. But these 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.160 agents have seen what had happened over the years with 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.600 these negotiations. It always ends up in the favor of 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.280 and it's in Stephen Jones. I think when he yesterday 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.640 lashed out a little bit, you know, he lashed out 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:04.840 and said, you know, I don't. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.160 Want to talk about this anymore. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.480 I sense frustration because he doesn't get to do what 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.600 he does best, and that's negotiate. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.080 So these agents, right, and let Brown, we're not fighting 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.400 and we're not fighting there. But these these agents, they 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.840 represent players all over the league. Right, So this is 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.920 me asking because I don't have a question. I don't 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.040 have to answers. So why is it that the Lions 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.520 right back to back within three weeks? We can go, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.560 all right, But a sail gets done, all right, Jered 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.600 God gets done all right? Two or three other people 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.080 get done. The Eagles back to back to back to back. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.000 They find money, They find money to just pay everybody 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.320 back to back to back to back. Why are we 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.720 the only team? It seems like, hypothetically, in Vaci's mind, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.760 it seems like, oh man, we gotta wait till the last. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:47.880 Oh, you gotta get ahead of it. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.960 You're right about to wait till the last minute for Mike. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.079 But you, Zach Martin, I think you're the situation too though, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.920 where these agents are holding them up. I think to 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.480 deal with Dak Prescott again, Brian brought us talking here. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.160 You know, not anything from Dallas Cowboys dot comery thing 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.480 I've heard of in the building. But you had Todd 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.960 France change agencies on on these guys. They thought they 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.760 had a deal and all of a sudden France changes agencies. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.319 Look at all his players that year, the year they 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.400 all got franchise tag. He didn't negotiate with anybody because 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.200 he was leaving one agency to another and he didn't 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.800 want to put old business Dack old business with that 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.920 old agency. So to me, sometimes you got to catch 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.160 a break on these things. Sometimes it's not just the Joneses, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:31.160 sometimes it is the agents. But what what does David 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.320 will get it? Why even does he have to take 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.520 this call? He knows what the numbers are. Stephen can't 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.480 Stephen really can't negotiate with him because those are the numbers. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.320 That's what a negotiations about. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.560 Hey, let's see if we can fall under this, let's 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.080 see if we could get under that number. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.079 And what you think, Brian, Again, I have a. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.560 Couple of things. Number One, you mentioned the Eagles, and 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.200 it's an interesting point because I think that's the initial 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.040 perception when you talk or look at what the Eagles 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.520 have done and start comparing with what the Cowboys have done. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.680 Derek and I have been in a meeting where it 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.960 was somewhat explained to us because it's again it's a 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.600 very complicated thing, like you need it all mapped out 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.120 because there are so many players on the team and 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.440 every like it all. It just comes in pieces together, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.079 and it's not you're not just talking about one year, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.480 You're looking at multiple years and all that. But my 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.800 understanding and correct me if I'm wrong, Derek, I came 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:30.040 out from that meeting with the with the assumption that 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.880 every team goes through a certain cycle. You're gonna get 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.000 to a point where the Eagles are not gonna be 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.400 able to do what they've been doing, and then the 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.160 Cowboys is gonna be their turn to kind of reset 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.920 and restart with this all these contracts and again, very 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:52.040 complicated topic. Don't know exactly how it works, but I 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.599 think this is the one year in the in the 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.640 limited capacity that they had with the salary cap and 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.520 everything like that. I think they've been able to manage 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.959 this off season really well in my opinion. Of course, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.839 you still need to get this guy done. Michaeh. We've 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.360 been talking about it. We're about to go back to 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.840 training camp. I remember being at training camp last year 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.200 and him being asked a question about the contract, and 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.480 something else that I was gonna mention was the changing attitude. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.280 I can't speak about the conversations that have been done 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.800 between his agent and Steven Jones, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.480 but one thing that it's clear, and we've been seeing 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.560 all the way back since training camp, whether it's genuine 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.120 or not, whether it's fake or real, the fact is 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.600 Micah has started changing his attitude. Now sure, looking for 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.000 that contract, but he started doing things that he hasn't 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:49.040 necessarily done before. For example, even though he hasn't been 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.760 at practice, yesterday was the Cowboys media days. This is 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.560 the time that Mike, those who know he don't typically 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.840 show up to everything, he will not show any by. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.560 The way, He's not the one there are high profile 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.719 players and say I'll do this, I won't do this. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.880 It's that's yeah, yeah yeah. But he's one of those. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.520 And then that if he do do something, he's not 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.800 necessarily in the best mood and you just gotta deal 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:20.360 with it. But again, I just want to contrast, contrast 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.040 previous year to right now. He showed up yesterday, He 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.360 showed up, even did some Spanish stuff, which has never. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.960 In my whole life. But he speaking Spanish. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.760 He he participated, he did good, he did good Spanish. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:40.600 Don't they don't. They don't let you know. You a't 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.439 supposed say certain words. But on that point. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:49.920 I heard, I've heard yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go No, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.560 he does not. I really told him off air, and 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:59.240 I told him there does not approve, So I was 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.280 gonna say. Also heard from different stations like the photography 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:03.920 station that he was in a great mood and he 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:09.560 did so good. So again I think the willingness sure 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:14.520 is there that you see some participation, not in full 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.200 capacity because he's not showing up and he's already said 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.000 he'll be there next week and he said he's going 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.640 to show up to training camp regardless whether or not 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:27.160 he has a contract. But it is something that shows 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.040 some change and shows some that they're working with. He's 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.560 not upset necessarily, and he's willing to keep putting in 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.200 the work in a certain capacity. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.440 Maybe I'm just bothered that, you know, we're in this 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.440 offseason and we see Miles Garrett say, you know what, 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.160 I'm sick of this Brown stuff. I'm sick of football 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.880 and my and my contract is going to be complex too, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.600 but I don't want to be here. I'm leaving. And 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.319 then next thing, you know, Miles Garrett is this big 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.880 stupid contract. He's like boy Brown for life, y'all. What 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.640 we're doing at quarterback right, like just at the you know, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.000 not the snapper, you think hyperbly, right, but maybe like 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.360 in a week or two weeks, we're gonna really wait 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.240 this whole thing. And I hope that we don't get 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.520 to the end of training camp and now we're like, okay, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.080 well Michaeh hasn't worked out and now he needs five weeks. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.440 And I can ask a question on that, please on 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.040 the Browns. How many big contracts do they have on 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:12.440 their rush? 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.520 That's fair, that's I'm just I want to make sure again, 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.280 that's totally let's do the full thing. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.760 If we're gonna use them as examples. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:20.880 No, if we're gonna use him as example, though, I 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.120 want to make sure that we're comparing apple stapples. I 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.920 don't think that's of the apple stapples comparison. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.040 Maybe not apples to apples. But in this case, if 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.520 you're the jones Is and you've paid this player, this player, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.560 this player now your best player, like he's the Browns 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.040 best player. So if Michael is one of our top 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.320 three guys and we've paid these I'm like, man. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.440 Michael, Michael, Michael is not and will not be the 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.480 highest paid player on this team even when this still 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:42.800 is done. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.280 But even to that point, they knew Michael was coming. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.400 You know, they knew that this Like they set it 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.240 up to where, all right, in this amount of time, 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.760 this is gonna happen. Oh Michael going crazy. So you 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.200 know by year three that he's gonna be looking for something. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.560 This should have been in their mind or I'm not 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.040 telling him how to do their job. I didn't go 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.000 to school for this, but I'm just saying, maybe that's 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.640 maybe there's a way to get around this and maybe 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:03.880 nickeling down somebody else. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.680 I think those are all fair questions. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.160 I just want to make sure that we think about 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.240 it from the standpoint of it's not always just as 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.360 simple as we'll just go get them whatever he wants. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:13.720 I think there are a lot of things that have 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.760 to be negotiated, and there are a lot of things that 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.040 have to be negotiated on both sides. Both both parties 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.240 have to be willing to make the negotiation, as Brian 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.760 was saying, but there has to be a coming together 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.760 of ideas for them to actors get the deal done. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.080 There's no sense of urgency for agents to deal with 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.720 the Cowboys. There's no sense of urgency none, because what 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.160 happens is and to be honest with you about the Browns, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.440 you can look at the quarterback Watson and then also 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.520 Denzel war are two high, very high paid guys for them. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.800 But you look, there's no sense of urgency and that 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.320 and and and and this is just where we always 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.160 like to say in the media world it's a small 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.240 sample size. It's not a small sample size anymore. It's 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.000 not you see how some of the contracts have been 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.360 done here and how they've been structured, and I don't 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.680 think it's always fair to the Joneses, but this is 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.040 where are at right now because agents can wait you out. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.560 Nobody wants to have to sit there and deal. They 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.720 would love to negotiate in good faith with them about 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.800 Michael Parsons, or with Dak Press Scott, or with Ceed 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.040 Lamp or all these guys. You know, we say they wait, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.200 they wait, they wait. We don't always know. On the 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.040 other side, I think agents hold the Cowboys up. I 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.360 really do. I think I think Steven Adam, Todd Williams, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.280 everybody that does a contract upstairs. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.760 I think they want to negotiate. I really do. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.960 I think they want to be a part. We've seen though, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.440 when it's Osa and others. I brought that up. We've 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.000 seen digs when it was when it wasn't the full 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.520 top deal for corners. We've seen what negotiations look like 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.920 on certain players. But these top players, though, it has 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.040 been a struggle. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:43.840 And I don't know. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.920 Again, I don't think it's all Dallas Cowboy's faultier. But 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.120 if I'm an agent and I'm sitting there and I 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.320 know what type of player Michael Parsons is, I'm not 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.480 picking up the phone. I'm going to make you wait 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.680 every single minute on this one. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.760 And that's what's difficult because you do get that sense of, oh, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.560 there's no urgency because you don't see things actually happening. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.200 But even though you're waiting and waiting, and we've seen 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.080 it case after case, at the end of the day, 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.160 for the most part, they get it done. The Cowboys 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:14.960 end up signing it. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.720 And that's why Stephen Jones is pissed off right now 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.520 because he doesn't get to do with the Joneses. The 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.720 Joneses are tremendous. We could talk about all the things 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.479 that they do on the football side. These folks are 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.000 billionaires because of businesses that they run. They negotiate, they 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.840 know how to talk to people, they know how to 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.600 get deals done. That's something that they are good at. 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.639 You know, now they're getting their ass kicked on the 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.439 football side of things because people are not willing to 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.320 step to the table and negotiate with them because they 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:43.960 know that all of a sudden, if you hold them up, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.600 pull them up, holding up you know, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.280 they know they have to trying to build a football 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.520 team here. They felt like they had to have Dak 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.840 Prescott that was worth them to put that check in 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.160 front of Dak Prescott. You know it's gonna be worth. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.080 It was worth them to have ceede Lamb. 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See it for yourself 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.240 at LG dot com, slash or let evo. 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:04.959 Welcome Back. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:06.640 It is the second segment of the breakwill life from 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.520 that w a BC Mortgage Studios at the start of 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.800 the segment, brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All Right, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.479 so we were gonna take a I was gonna take 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.840 a right, and in the break, I think we decided 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:17.320 we want to take a left because we got into 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.040 a conversation I thought was really interesting. Brian, you teed 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.120 up the question, and I thought it's a really really 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:26.240 great question. If let's assume that that Pickens has a 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.040 really great year and you get to next off season 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:31.639 and you have to make a decision as the Cowboys 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:33.760 on resigning either deron Bland. 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:41.200 That was your question, go ahead, nought, I was taking 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:42.200 I was taking credit. 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:47.240 Great question. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.120 I've learned not to interrupt my teammates. 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.080 I wouldn't let you say go ahead, please finish the 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.600 question close to to tell you the question. 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.840 The question is if you had you had to choose, 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.080 would you take would you sign Pickens or would you 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.760 not Bland. I made the arguments, got no trouble. By 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.639 the way, he has a great year because exactly what 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:09.359 you asked him to be. 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.720 He comes in. He is a one B receiver. 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.600 He has some games that you don't win without him 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.720 making plays that he makes. All those things off the field, 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.520 there are no problems. He is the model citizen, He's 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.520 a great teammate, all those things. I still say I 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:28.560 go with Bland because I think in terms of replacement value, 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.239 And the point that I was trying to make is 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.720 I think you guys are talent evaluators. That's what you 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.280 do with the draft show. So you might have a 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.080 different opinion. I trust your opinion, but I think there 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.560 are more talented wide receivers out there than there are 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:42.679 talented cornerbacks. 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:46.320 I think there is a larger number. So for me, it's. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.439 Harder to go out and replace a Bland than it 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.400 is to go out and replace a Pickens. That's nothing 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.480 against Pickens. It's just saying there are more of them 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.359 out there. It's another reasons why you pay. As we 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.000 were talking about the first segment, you pay your top 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.520 flight pass rush because there aren't a lot of those 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.720 guys around, Like, it's hard to find those guys. What 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.159 was the argument you guys were making because both of 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.159 you guys thought you'd take pickings over Bland. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.200 I'm definitely taking pickings, and there's a lot of context 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.000 that I would add to it. First of all, how 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.480 the Cowboys operate, you know what I mean, Like we're 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.280 drafting and we're not gonna go find help outside. Okay, 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.399 we found pickings outside, but boy was that rare. So 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.399 what I'm thinking is if you're winning games, you're gonna 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.520 be drafting late in the first Okay, So if you 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.760 so those top tier wire receivers you're mentioning, for the 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.600 most part, they go one to fifteen. They go really 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.600 high in the draft. And maybe it's like a new 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.000 trend or something like that, but all the best corners 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.399 that me and Brian and you know draft guys and 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.480 gals that we love. Those corners end up going later. 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.880 Joey Porter, Terry and Arnold guys, Cooper de Jean, those guys, 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.320 they end up going later. Trevon Diggs was a Round 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.520 two guy for US. Bland was you know, hitting GM. 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:55.920 Win't gonna take craft for that one. 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.199 But it's like, although y'all did get it right on 0:23:58.240 --> 0:23:59.919 the draft show, you weren't a part of that, but 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:01.720 they did. That was one guy they were touting a 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.760 lot on the Josh I remember hearing that going on. 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.679 Pay roll then. But but in my mind, yeah, you 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.960 can find receivers, and maybe other teams that draft high 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.439 in the draft can find top tier receivers. But if 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.320 you're the Cowboys and you plan on winning and you're 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.960 in this Dak Prescott win though you're gonna be drafting 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.240 in the dag On twenties, you can't find me a 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.040 wide receiver in the twenties. That's like George Pickens. I 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.679 think George Pickens is a bona fide dude, Like he's 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.920 in that lamb ilk. To me, maybe not a top 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.159 three guy in the league, but he's in that twelve 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.919 to fifteen. Those guys are like top tier two. I 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.320 love Bland, but when it was time for Bland to 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.879 be wire, you know, cornerback one DK Metcalf had a 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:41.119 lot to say about that and we had to call 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.399 Gill like, hey, Gilly, can you please take care of this? 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.399 Or there have been times where hey, Jordan Lewis was 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.440 the best corner in our group of corners or whatever. Right, 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.240 I think, just me personally, I think Cede Lamb having 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:56.080 a running mate is more valuable than your cornerback room 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.800 being being full of guys, so to speak. 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.800 I think everything you said is absolutely right. And I 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.520 say that because you know, when you look at it though, 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.080 overall though that that's the one thing this team really 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.040 really needed. You know, you have this outstanding player in 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.760 Ceedee Lamb. You have a quarterback that's very capable of 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.960 getting a football, but you're just it's just really like 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.960 the old one one trick Boney situation. You know the 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.080 fact that they felt like that, hey, we have to 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.440 go and make a bold move to go get a guy, 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.600 and they did that. You know, I mean, that's bold 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.639 to go get a guy that people think, oh it 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.480 might be a little bit of a problem, might be 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:29.320 a locker room problem. 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.560 All these things like that. No, they said, no, we need. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:35.040 It's it's so important to us to go get a 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.280 guy that can play outside. Now what do they do 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.600 in the draft? They might have addressed the situation though 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.880 with with Revel. And I'm saying this because I think 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.840 that Revel kind of falls into the group of. 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.160 Guys that I look at. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.720 I look at how these these quarterbacks and the names 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:54.960 or the names are like we were talking about the 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.720 Cooper de Jeans, the Patrick Certant, Garrett Williams is a 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.080 guy that plays very high level there at Arizona. We 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.600 don't know a lot about him. Trent McDuffie, Derek Stingley. 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:06.840 These are guys that have to line up on a 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.240 weekly basis and cover these big time receivers. But the 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.919 every one of those guys that named are super talented guys. 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.439 The thing about it is, though this team needs a 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.200 wide receiver opposite lamp, and they went and got one. 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.600 I think they And the thing that's terrifying to me, 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.800 and I'll just say it one more time, is that 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:29.119 that he has a great campaign. But then you're not 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:33.400 allowed or you can't go and get him and keep 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.840 him as part of the offense, and get him going 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.879 with Dak and with CD and and helping helping this 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.040 team score. 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.359 Well just as much as this team needs a second 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.080 wide receiver opposite Lamb. We were watching last season when 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.760 Trayvon Diggs went down. It ain't nice when you don't 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.000 have two, maybe three, really really good corners in this league, 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.560 because you will get beat up. Yeah, And I do 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.719 think like I agree with you. I think Rebel can 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.879 certainly make me think a little bit more about whether 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.960 I would say I can do without Bland. But man, 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.440 I still believe in today's NFL because of all the 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.399 good talented wide receivers there are out there, if you 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.240 don't have a bevy of really good cornerbacks, you are 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.000 gonna be screwed. And I feel like the Cowboys fat 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.359 they stole one with Bland to let him walk away 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:24.119 after after his first contract, I think would be a travesty. 0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:30.720 I gotta start doing hancing. I know, I feel it. 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:31.359 I feel it. 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.960 But now it's my turn. Okay. I think one, we're 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:39.320 having this conversation way too soon for my liking fun conversation. 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.840 But I think there's still a lot more to see 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.760 of what actually developed throughout the season. I will say 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.440 I'm totally with Derek, and I think at the same time, 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.760 I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. I 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:56.120 think you can make a very very balid point for 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.320 both things, but with their own bland Although you say, 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.280 and you could technically find guys to be at corner, 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.720 but a guy like Blent is not easy to find. 0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:11.040 Not only is he the only issue he's had was 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.960 that injury that he dealt with that kept him out, 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:15.880 and that was tough, and you got to look at 0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.679 what the team and the defense can look like without 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.359 a guy like him. He's been such a solid guy, 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.280 not a diva. You know, some corners are a very 0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:30.000 diva like ish, very constant and the type of guy 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.679 that you want in the locker room. So that is 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:37.000 not necessarily always something that you see all the time. 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.800 And he has again that record breaking season. You cannot 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.960 forget about that. Something that the Cowboys lacked last year 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.760 was the turnovers, the interceptions, and where was Blent, you know, 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.160 recovering and then he got a chance to come back 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.520 for a little bit, but it wasn't there. And I'm 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.640 expecting hopefully he gets back into that form shown he 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.000 can do it, and I think he is a game 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.720 changer for the defense. 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:04.520 I'll help you make your argument here. Ag. 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.440 Philadelphi Eagles were clearly a different team with Cooper Dejene 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.960 and then Quinn Mitchell. Their defense went from like one 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.560 of the worst when it came to playing past defense. 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:16.719 You know, if you look at the year before and 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.640 they and they moved on from Maddox and others. You know, 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.400 they just said, you know, we're not good enough. 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:22.000 Well they do. 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.560 They drafted to Mitchell and then also Degene and that 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.000 made a huge difference in their. 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:27.600 Super Bowl run. 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.000 So that is if you're looking at that side of things, 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.000 you know, and I to be fair like, I say, 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.280 I just think that to me, with the investment that 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.560 you've made in your quarterback, you better find a way 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.160 to help him as much as possible because we're gonna 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:43.960 have to get to a point where, maybe two years 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:48.120 from now, where the evaluation is like and I'm just 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:49.040 saying this as. 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.800 The evaluation and it's not working. 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:51.160 You know. 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.720 We all go through life and we all make these 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.480 plans and stuff the things we're going to do, but 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.600 then in two years, three years from now, we're saying 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.480 it's not working. I want to do everything my power. 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.880 I've helped him potentially with the play caller. Now, I've 0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.080 helped him with potentially new offensive line coaches, maybe some 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.880 new talent at right guard, maybe adding a receiver. But 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.520 the evaluation, at the end of the day, the most 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.640 expensive evaluation and the most important evaluation is who's playing quarterback. 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.080 And if I don't have George Pickens playing out there, 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.680 and it's Tolbert and others who have kind of just 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.560 every year, I've kind of said, I need this guy 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.560 to improve. I need to No, I know, I got 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.320 a war daddy out there playing right now. 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.640 And I agree with the concept that if Pickens is 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.480 not going to be here, you better replace him with 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.720 somebody who's talented. Because I agree with they're going to 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.120 need they need to talented wide receivers. I agree with 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.640 that part of it. I just think if you're faced 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.600 with I got to replace a top notch corner or 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.240 I have to replace a top notch receiver, I think 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.880 you have a better chance of replacing that corner. I mean, 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.200 I'm replacing that wide receiver. Then you do that corner 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.600 in one year's draft or in free agency. I just 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.360 think there are more of them. I just think there's 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.760 a better chance you can find that guy at wide 0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:56.520 receiver position. 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:57.600 Then you can find that guy coin. 0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.440 Now I go flip Miami two and I'll go get 0:30:59.480 --> 0:30:59.920 Jalen Ram. 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.400 I think I think a corner. 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.760 I think he's Miami Dolphin. Yeah, I think, yes, he's 0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:07.959 a miamiphin. 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.560 I think I can live without like a lockdown corner. 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.720 It'll be cool to have a lockdown corner. But like, 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.680 as long as your corner is not like that. 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.680 Plan ain't a lockdown I don't call Bland a lockdown corner. 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.959 Bland is a guy that can get turnovers and not 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.040 only that, he can get turn ups and tournament to points. 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.160 That's what I love about him, and that's the thing 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.360 that's uncommon about him. You go out and try to 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.120 find that guy that's a hard guy to. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.280 Replace, even even if he's like a regular degular guy 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.120 that just doesn't get like, he doesn't like, he doesn't 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.640 get picked at all. Like even he's just a regular okay, cool, 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.200 just don't get because in real life, rebel may be that. 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.200 This year, I think highly of him as a prospect. 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:48.160 But you're stolen there. I think so. 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.920 But I'm thinking like year two or three rebels, that 0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.360 one rebel may just be a solid, cool, good corner. 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.360 I'm cool with a solid a solid, cool, good corner. 0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.840 The Cowboys are gonna have to play against teams that 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.280 put points on the board, regardless of who you got 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.120 lined up at corner, because we got corners and and 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.280 we have Trevon di is called eleven picks in one year, 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.760 and Bland can lead the league and pick six and 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.560 all that, and teams will still find a way to 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.520 put thirty and forty on you. I think you need 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.360 firepower to match that. That's just my own take. 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.120 All right, we're gonna take our final break. 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Got a lot 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:14.919 of kids in the building. 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.680 Today is summer camp's rolling through doing tours, so keep 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:18.719 saying welcome kids in the building. 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.280 Thanks, thank you for coming to the media, and enjoy 0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:22.959 your summer camp. 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.719 Let's talk about a couple of other observations that we 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.080 had from OTA's Let's go on the field. Elie Cooker, Uh, 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.800 he had he left practice during warm ups. Actually I 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.640 was adving supposedly reports he was having backspasms. 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.160 Nothing serious that that I've. 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.560 Heard, but that being said, I thought the interesting thing 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.680 was Elijah Clark is a name that I started seeing 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.799 him get some work in previous weeks. He got more 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.920 work yesterday to hook her out. Even Janya Thomas, a safety, 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:49.480 they had him kind of working in the slot a 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.160 little bit yesterday. Talk to me first about Elijah Clark. 0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.360 What have you seen from him? What kind of Scotty 0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.960 report can you give on him? Because he seems to 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.040 be a guy that has an undrafted, drafted free agent 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.200 is at least he's getting some opportunities. 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.239 Versatile player, tackler, very active in the run game, you know, 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.920 kind of long lines up everywhere, deep strong nickel. I 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.440 don't know if he's gonna have a whole bunch of 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.799 nickel in the league, but as Syracuse they did it. 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.239 Pretty rangy player active, you know, I wouldn't put him 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.000 at a one high rangey guy, but he could be 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:19.319 like a two high rangey type guy. 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.279 Yeah, this is a guy that you talk to people 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.640 in the organization usually when they go after these guys, 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.600 usually when it's you know, when when you can this 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.200 is one of those cases you can actually follow the 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.440 money a little bit. But here is one of the 0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.240 guys that got one of the larger UH signing bonuses, 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.080 if you want to say, of the rookie undrafted guys. 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.440 And so that told me that he's somewhere between the 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.680 fifth and sixth round on their board what they were 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.200 able to do. So here they are picking off guys 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:47.839 that are on their draft board. I think Vatch gave 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.640 you the right thumbnail about this kiddy. It looks kind 0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.319 of like a corner he six one eight the way 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:53.120 he's built. 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:54.560 UH. But he is one of. 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.680 Those guys that he does play downhill, he does tackle well. 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.799 I think he saw the field pretty well. You suck 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.440 out the range and what his ability Matti RIFLEU is 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.200 playing a little more single high with some of the stuff. 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.719 He'll play the two, but the single high, and you 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.320 could do that with this guy. So I don't know 0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.000 how much you want to put him in coverage stuff 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.920 underneath the nickel corner kind of slot player. I don't 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.160 think that's his cup of tea. But you talk about 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.000 a guy that's physical downhill and willing to throw his 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.000 body in there and make tackles. But he evidently he's 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.280 a smart guy too, because this is not the first 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:31.400 time that we've seen him get work with these with 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.279 the first defense one of the first times the observations 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.160 that we've been able to make in camp, he was 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.640 kind of working in So this tells me they liked 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.799 this kid, sat on their board at a pretty high 0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.279 spot to be drafted, didn't get it done. They went 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.600 and got him. Probably a smart kid. They're now putting 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.640 him in there and seeing how much he could really learn. 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.480 Throw a lot of things at him, and then when 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.200 they get to camp, you could really see what kind 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:53.319 of player you have in him. 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.239 But you can start just by looking at practice and 0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.120 seeing that and the fact that he's been given in 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.640 those opportunities, that's already telling enough that that's someone okay, 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.120 they really really like, because you don't tend to see, 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:10.200 at least from my experience, you don't see that a lot, 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.399 a whole lot during this time of the year until 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.480 you get maybe to training camp and you see more 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.120 of those battles on the second team and all that. 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:22.279 But again, for someone that's undrafted, which you know it's 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.799 not that you're taking somebody else's spot that's ahead of 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.960 you quote unquote, that tells you a lot that he's 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.919 putting in the work, and I would expect and think 0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.839 that it also goes to what they're doing in the classroom, 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:38.360 what they're studying in those in those meeting rooms that 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.960 it's from the head being smart, and those also when 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.080 they're like that in the class I'm rambling here what 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:49.200 I'm trying to say. When when the mind is there 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:53.640 and you're putting in the textbook work, it creates more 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:58.239 opportunities for you on the field. So it again, it's 0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:59.880 just the two on two and it's a guy that 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.560 we're definitely going to be keeping an eye on. 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.360 The one interesting one though, I think you need to 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.120 look at though, is with we mentioned Parsons earlier in 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.799 the broadcast, donovand Azeraku has been playing a little bit 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.279 of Michael Parson's role at practice, playing at that linebacker, 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:15.080 the rush guy. 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:16.600 Then the good time. 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.920 I'm sorry about if you have a but yeah, I 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.160 think that to me, I always look and see where 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.040 guys are lining up where we're playing. You know, watch 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.200 and I were doing our show last night. They're doing 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.760 all Right podcasts and we were talking about uh with 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:33.440 with Elam and like it seems like that every practice, 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.799 you know that we've been able to watch Elam's making place. 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:38.399 Well then okay, well what's where's guy's lining up now? 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.160 Oh Rookie as Araku? Oh wait no, Michael Parsons, Oh wait, 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.200 he's standing up always playing outside as a rusher. They're 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.840 kind of seeing if he could take those those Michael 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.800 Parsons type snaps. And maybe if you have a situation 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.759 where Micah does get tired or it has to come 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.720 off the field, that maybe as Araku in their mind, 0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:59.520 is going to be a guy that they could plug 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.000 in and play those spots real quick. 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.600 I also wanted to mention as a part of conversation 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:08.200 with having with a lot of regarding Elijah Clark, this 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.920 often happens sometimes when you get a new coordinator in, 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.880 they have different schemes, and so you'll start to notice 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.040 that some guys that may have been a part of. 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.879 The previous regime, uh, maybe they may not have. 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:24.520 Necessarily the particular skill set that the new coordinator would want. 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.000 What do you know, guys know about how let's say 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.920 Zimmer chooses to use safeties versus maybe how flu flus 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.040 uses safeties, and maybe if there are any differences that 0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.200 we should be paying attention to as we're watching these 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:37.040 safeties during training. 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.320 Yeah, a lot of single high stuff with with Flus, 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.760 you know, and you know he you know, he comes 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.160 from that. Originally he was with the Rob Ryan administration 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.080 and then he's transitioned into the Rod Marinelli who would 0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:49.799 play a lot of cover too. You know that that 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.239 we always talk about the Tampa two stuff. But you 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.160 see if but if you look at the metrics, he's 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.239 a single high guy, is what he is. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.040 So he's talking about Flu. 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.799 Yeah, so he's he's he's at the at the at 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.120 the Bears, they were doing a lot more single high 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.600 stuff there, but you know it was it was like say, 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.840 with Zimmer, it was a lot of just you know, 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.080 a lot of that where he was playing that's a 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.600 single high stuff and then he was kind of adjusting 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:13.520 for what he had to do. 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.040 So similar from the safe foot they're at similar. 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.640 But more I think more even more with Flus. I 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.520 think more with Flu. Flus is a ton of zone 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.160 defense stuff, where Zimmer was more a lot man. 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:25.560 Zim wanted to do everything. 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:26.960 Yeah, Zim wanted to do everything. 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.600 This is going to hyper focus on. 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.719 Exactly exactly and see I think guys too, like I 0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:33.799 want to say this, I think that a guy like 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.319 Janier Thomas gets a fresh breath of air with a 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.360 new coaching staff. I remember talking to Mike Zimmer about 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.440 this last year in training camp and asking and asking 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.520 him about how he liked Donovan Wilson and Hooker and 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.760 all that he was. He was really really on board 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.319 with both players. But then we come to we have 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.080 a change in the coaching staff, and now you see, 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.839 you know what happens. We get tender offers, we get 0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.000 contract offers, you get Thomas signed, you get Bell signed. 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.759 That's telling me that Fluc and these guys have coming 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.040 in and making an influence that way, that they like 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.719 what they've seen with these two guys, and so now 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.600 they're gonna get more of an opportunity. This might not 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.200 bode well for guy like Sam Williams, who is also 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.399 in that situation. He's trying to get healthy, but now 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.000 his sponsors are kind of out the door right here, 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.400 So you know, it's there's a lot going on here. 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.560 You know, when it comes to coaching staff, sometimes guys go, 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.840 I got a new chance, and the other guys go, damn, 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:29.640 my guy's gone. 0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.319 Some guys can't get hurt like some guys do not 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.239 have the luxury to get hurt. Like there are some 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.600 veterans to where they feel like, if Okay, I leave 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.080 and I come back, I'll still be fine. There's a 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.880 lot of young safeties in this room or in that 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.600 safety room that are just waiting for an opportunity, and 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.040 I think if they get on the field, I think 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:47.359 it's going to be really hard for you to get 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.120 them off the field. There's a lot of guys in 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.280 their linebacker room that are fighting for their life, competing 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:54.200 and competing, competing. So if you're like an old veteran 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.160 life back Clark, if the moon and Clark, you've been 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.400 in this team for a long. 0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:58.560 Time, interception yesterday. 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.160 Yeah, and you got some guys that been drafted last year, 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:02.480 drafted this year, some. 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.360 Sign sign guys, two guys. 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.879 Some of y'all can't afford to miss a week here, 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:09.880 a week there. You gotta stay healthy. 0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:14.360 Yeah, I think that's no veteran day off this year. 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:16.960 That's easy for you to say. 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.359 Those veterans like I need a day off every once, 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.600 not this year, not this year. 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.640 On the way, there's something I would like to see though, 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.920 the training cramp, training camp practices something like that. Training 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.160 camp practices, you know, I'm interested to see how those 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:34.800 are going to go. But I really do want to 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.960 see a preseason though more veteran players play. I would 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.000 like to see more of an how is this going 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:40.520 to work? 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.839 How is this going to you have to I don't 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.640 see how you don't with what you got waiting for 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:48.040 you on week Once. 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.640 Didn't it made me see, Yeah, that's a tough one. 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:52.040 I just do. 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.920 I do think obviously this year they're starting on Thursday night, 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.520 opening the season against the defending champs. I do think 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.640 that that I will be interested to see if they 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.719 look at preseason now. Part of it might just be 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.320 the coach has a different philosophy, right, we got a 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.920 new coach, but I would I would love to see 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.960 how I want to see how they address that and 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:11.520 if they will and at least give him a few 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.600 reps veterans, because these last couple of years it's been 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.000 like literally they just don't play. 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.640 I do not I do not have any any thoughts that, like, 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.400 you know, to me, I look at like I was 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.319 with Andy Reid and what he does in Kansas City, 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.960 and obviously they've had success, so they have pat Mahomes 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.040 and a lot of other things going for him there. 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.000 But there's some teams that do that absolutely take preseason 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.759 seriously in that way and get evaluations. And then there's 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.120 some teams like the Rams, that guy does not care 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.640 about what's going on in preseason. But I think, I 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.359 think Dallas me personally, this is being selfish. I want 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.759 to see this offensive line play together. I want to 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.480 see him have a little six. I want to see 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.719 if Miles Sanders really can. In the last couple of 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.719 times we've had media availability, Miles Sanders has come out 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.040 as a guy that's got some juice to his game. 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:56.799 I'd love to see him run the ball a little bit, 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:58.640 you know, and see if, in fact that we get 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.239 some some block and it's protection and and go that 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.799 route and kind of have a little positivity going into 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:05.759 that Thursday night game. 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.640 Yeah, between all the new coaches and all the new players, 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.080 I almost think you have to in order to just 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.200 get them prepared for the upcoming season. 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:13.560 It's one thing. 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.640 We have a veteran team that's pretty much stayed together 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:17.920 for a year, two years, three years, whatever the case 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.239 might be. But this team feels like there's so much 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.120 newness that I just feel like it might be necessary. 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.920 I think some of the slow starts that they've had 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.560 offensively have been because they don't play preseason games. 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:30.440 That's just me, all right. 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.080 I appreciate you guys joining us. That's a wrap. We'll 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:32.680 be back next week. 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.279 We'll wrap this thing up for this offseason and then 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.879 start getting you guys ready for training camp. Till then, 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.720 for Box Lombardi Brian brought us in Ambergarci. 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