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Speaker 5: Today, though, I want to.
Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about the OTAs that have been
Speaker 4: happening over the last couple of weeks. We had some
Speaker 4: media availability yesterday, and where I want to start. I
Speaker 4: have a few observations, just things that that were either
Speaker 4: said or were noticed yesterday, and uh, there aren't questions.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna throw them out and I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: free for all and let you guys talk about whatever
Speaker 4: those observations are.
Speaker 2: Let's start for know, your talent is what you do
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: Uh, let's start first with my comparisons. He was at
Speaker 4: the Star but did not practiced yesterday.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He is expected though, to be here next week for
Speaker 4: the management as he said, he mentioned that he expects
Speaker 4: to be here.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Stephen Jones was asked about his absence and whether it bothering.
Speaker 5: His quote was no.
Speaker 4: As part of the business all teams go through it
Speaker 4: and that's part of the business.
Speaker 3: Thoughts man, he said, I don't want to hear this
Speaker 3: no more. I don't want to hear any more question
Speaker 3: the the What is he the vice president of co?
Speaker 2: What is it like?
Speaker 3: Like, what's his title Stephen Jones' title? I think it
Speaker 3: is co something something you know, player person.
Speaker 5: He's definitely sweet, an owner and.
Speaker 3: Something something fancy see Cowboys doesn't want to talk about
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons no more so. I imagine that it is frustrating.
Speaker 3: I imagine that he's sick of hearing about it. But
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do?
Speaker 2: Player?
Speaker 3: I mean you you you're gonna give him what they're
Speaker 3: asking for? Or are we gonna continue to play chicken?
Speaker 3: I think with certain kind of players, I don't think
Speaker 3: you should negotiate or you you you shouldn't try to well,
Speaker 3: can you let me slide on a million here? A
Speaker 3: million there? Michael Parsons is arguably one of the best
Speaker 3: players in football, not just defense, not just edge, the
Speaker 3: whole football. You can nickel and dime Donovan Willis. I
Speaker 3: ain't want to say now you can nickel and dime
Speaker 3: some other players. You can nickel and dime some of
Speaker 3: your new linebackers that you just brought in here vet
Speaker 3: minimum these guys, get ahead of it, Stephen Jones, get
Speaker 3: ahead of it. Pay them whatever they want, whatever stupid
Speaker 3: amount of money that's gonna make him the highest paid
Speaker 3: player on defense. TJ. Watter pass it in a little bit.
Speaker 3: Somebody else is passing a little bit. Some new defensive
Speaker 3: player will make that a deal in five years time.
Speaker 3: So let's let's stop playing today. Let's stop. Let me
Speaker 3: ask this question. That's this question.
Speaker 4: You're making an assumption sure that whatever the hold up is,
Speaker 4: or the reason why the deal hasn't gotten done is
Speaker 4: because of money.
Speaker 3: If I was Steve, are you certain that that's the case.
Speaker 3: If I was Steven, I will say it. I would like, Hey,
Speaker 3: they don't like X y Z. The money's there, we're
Speaker 3: offering them because they want.
Speaker 5: To play the no I heard you said.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, are you sure that that's the case. I
Speaker 4: don't know nothing, because okay, so I guess the point
Speaker 4: the point I don't want to in this hall, and
Speaker 4: I can't leave this hall. I don't know care get
Speaker 4: I guess the point of what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: The debate team so I just think I think the
Speaker 7: seats no.
Speaker 4: I think we have to be careful when we make
Speaker 4: assumptions on this kind of stuff, because we've seen in
Speaker 4: the past that some of these things get held up
Speaker 4: and they find out later the money wasn't issue, there
Speaker 4: were other things that will be negotiated by the way, Brian,
Speaker 4: you've seen this.
Speaker 5: These contracts have a lot of stuff in them.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of language and a lot of stipulation,
Speaker 4: and sometimes those are the things that hold up a
Speaker 4: deal more so than the money.
Speaker 3: So even if in the contract somewhere there ask me,
Speaker 3: even in.
Speaker 6: The d of the contracts, he said, Brian, you know
Speaker 6: these contracts, if Michael Parsons want to escalate per year,
Speaker 6: it's just say Noah, say yeah.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm able to say no, saying.
Speaker 4: What if he's dug in, I want to escalate and
Speaker 4: they're like, well, they not give you escalated with giving
Speaker 4: you sixty million.
Speaker 3: Dollars whatever the number is is the is the best
Speaker 3: player in football worth the newest escalade per year? And
Speaker 3: if not, you move on. You call somebody, see if
Speaker 3: you can get some some draft picks for one of
Speaker 3: the best players in the whole league and just and
Speaker 3: just go from there. But if not, he is do
Speaker 3: what you gotta do is gonna stick.
Speaker 2: You gonna get Steven Jones.
Speaker 3: You gonna get whooped in the gun.
Speaker 6: Stephen Jones is frustrated right now. He's frustrated, Lewis. He
Speaker 6: can't and you know, you cannot. He cannot catch a break.
Speaker 6: And here everybody's gonna sell it broad us your you're
Speaker 6: you're going for the Jones is here today. Now, I'll
Speaker 6: tell you the side of it that I believe is
Speaker 6: the fact that he is in a situation where he
Speaker 6: cannot get contracts to get staggered.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 6: He's got two three contracts he has to work on
Speaker 6: every single year.
Speaker 2: He can't get the contract staggered. And all of a sudden, now.
Speaker 6: He's in a in a in a little bit of
Speaker 6: a of a little bit of a situation where all
Speaker 6: of a sudden he's had to pay for the highest paid.
Speaker 6: He's had to put out the money for the highest paid.
Speaker 6: You know the thing with Lamb that turned into negotiation
Speaker 6: and it was a holdout and all that he got
Speaker 6: the OsO Diggy Zoo a deal done because they went
Speaker 6: under market. Valve he got digs money done because they
Speaker 6: went under a little bit under market value. I think
Speaker 6: Stephen Jones will negotiate with you. I think you have
Speaker 6: to also look at the other side. I think you
Speaker 6: have to look at David Llagetta in this situation. Why
Speaker 6: would David Mulligetta even want to take your call. He
Speaker 6: knows what he knows what the guy got at the Raiders,
Speaker 6: he knows what the guy got at the Browns. He's
Speaker 6: thinking probably that ballpark. Stephen Jones is now in a
Speaker 6: situation where like, even if I keep trying to make
Speaker 6: offers to these guys, they're going to continue to say no,
Speaker 6: They're just gonna David Mulligetta has no reason to take
Speaker 6: his call. That would be very frustrating to me. If
Speaker 6: I was going to try and negotiate a deal like
Speaker 6: this one and say, listen, see if I could bring
Speaker 6: this thing in at thirty seven to five instead of
Speaker 6: forty forty one or forty two, that would be very
Speaker 6: frustrating to me. I think that now you have agents
Speaker 6: that know that the cowboys are over a barrel, and
Speaker 6: when it comes to these negotiations, they've done a great
Speaker 6: job of assimbling players for their roster. A great job.
Speaker 6: Now it comes to having to pay him. But these
Speaker 6: agents have seen what had happened over the years with
Speaker 6: these negotiations. It always ends up in the favor of
Speaker 6: and it's in Stephen Jones. I think when he yesterday
Speaker 6: lashed out a little bit, you know, he lashed out
Speaker 6: and said, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to talk about this anymore.
Speaker 6: I sense frustration because he doesn't get to do what
Speaker 6: he does best, and that's negotiate.
Speaker 3: So these agents, right, and let Brown, we're not fighting
Speaker 3: and we're not fighting there. But these these agents, they
Speaker 3: represent players all over the league. Right, So this is
Speaker 3: me asking because I don't have a question. I don't
Speaker 3: have to answers. So why is it that the Lions
Speaker 3: right back to back within three weeks? We can go,
Speaker 3: all right, But a sail gets done, all right, Jered
Speaker 3: God gets done all right? Two or three other people
Speaker 3: get done. The Eagles back to back to back to back.
Speaker 3: They find money, They find money to just pay everybody
Speaker 3: back to back to back to back. Why are we
Speaker 3: the only team? It seems like, hypothetically, in Vaci's mind,
Speaker 3: it seems like, oh man, we gotta wait till the last.
Speaker 2: Oh, you gotta get ahead of it.
Speaker 3: You're right about to wait till the last minute for Mike.
Speaker 6: But you, Zach Martin, I think you're the situation too though,
Speaker 6: where these agents are holding them up. I think to
Speaker 6: deal with Dak Prescott again, Brian brought us talking here.
Speaker 6: You know, not anything from Dallas Cowboys dot comery thing
Speaker 6: I've heard of in the building. But you had Todd
Speaker 6: France change agencies on on these guys. They thought they
Speaker 6: had a deal and all of a sudden France changes agencies.
Speaker 6: Look at all his players that year, the year they
Speaker 6: all got franchise tag. He didn't negotiate with anybody because
Speaker 6: he was leaving one agency to another and he didn't
Speaker 6: want to put old business Dack old business with that
Speaker 6: old agency. So to me, sometimes you got to catch
Speaker 6: a break on these things. Sometimes it's not just the Joneses,
Speaker 6: sometimes it is the agents. But what what does David
Speaker 6: will get it? Why even does he have to take
Speaker 6: this call? He knows what the numbers are. Stephen can't
Speaker 6: Stephen really can't negotiate with him because those are the numbers.
Speaker 2: That's what a negotiations about.
Speaker 6: Hey, let's see if we can fall under this, let's
Speaker 6: see if we could get under that number.
Speaker 3: And what you think, Brian, Again, I have a.
Speaker 7: Couple of things. Number One, you mentioned the Eagles, and
Speaker 7: it's an interesting point because I think that's the initial
Speaker 7: perception when you talk or look at what the Eagles
Speaker 7: have done and start comparing with what the Cowboys have done.
Speaker 7: Derek and I have been in a meeting where it
Speaker 7: was somewhat explained to us because it's again it's a
Speaker 7: very complicated thing, like you need it all mapped out
Speaker 7: because there are so many players on the team and
Speaker 7: every like it all. It just comes in pieces together,
Speaker 7: and it's not you're not just talking about one year,
Speaker 7: You're looking at multiple years and all that. But my
Speaker 7: understanding and correct me if I'm wrong, Derek, I came
Speaker 7: out from that meeting with the with the assumption that
Speaker 7: every team goes through a certain cycle. You're gonna get
Speaker 7: to a point where the Eagles are not gonna be
Speaker 7: able to do what they've been doing, and then the
Speaker 7: Cowboys is gonna be their turn to kind of reset
Speaker 7: and restart with this all these contracts and again, very
Speaker 7: complicated topic. Don't know exactly how it works, but I
Speaker 7: think this is the one year in the in the
Speaker 7: limited capacity that they had with the salary cap and
Speaker 7: everything like that. I think they've been able to manage
Speaker 7: this off season really well in my opinion. Of course,
Speaker 7: you still need to get this guy done. Michaeh. We've
Speaker 7: been talking about it. We're about to go back to
Speaker 7: training camp. I remember being at training camp last year
Speaker 7: and him being asked a question about the contract, and
Speaker 7: something else that I was gonna mention was the changing attitude.
Speaker 7: I can't speak about the conversations that have been done
Speaker 7: between his agent and Steven Jones, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: but one thing that it's clear, and we've been seeing
Speaker 7: all the way back since training camp, whether it's genuine
Speaker 7: or not, whether it's fake or real, the fact is
Speaker 7: Micah has started changing his attitude. Now sure, looking for
Speaker 7: that contract, but he started doing things that he hasn't
Speaker 7: necessarily done before. For example, even though he hasn't been
Speaker 7: at practice, yesterday was the Cowboys media days. This is
Speaker 7: the time that Mike, those who know he don't typically
Speaker 7: show up to everything, he will not show any by.
Speaker 4: The way, He's not the one there are high profile
Speaker 4: players and say I'll do this, I won't do this.
Speaker 7: It's that's yeah, yeah yeah. But he's one of those.
Speaker 7: And then that if he do do something, he's not
Speaker 7: necessarily in the best mood and you just gotta deal
Speaker 7: with it. But again, I just want to contrast, contrast
Speaker 7: previous year to right now. He showed up yesterday, He
Speaker 7: showed up, even did some Spanish stuff, which has never.
Speaker 5: In my whole life. But he speaking Spanish.
Speaker 7: He he participated, he did good, he did good Spanish.
Speaker 3: Don't they don't. They don't let you know. You a't
Speaker 3: supposed say certain words. But on that point.
Speaker 7: I heard, I've heard yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go No,
Speaker 7: he does not. I really told him off air, and
Speaker 7: I told him there does not approve, So I was
Speaker 7: gonna say. Also heard from different stations like the photography
Speaker 7: station that he was in a great mood and he
Speaker 7: did so good. So again I think the willingness sure
Speaker 7: is there that you see some participation, not in full
Speaker 7: capacity because he's not showing up and he's already said
Speaker 7: he'll be there next week and he said he's going
Speaker 7: to show up to training camp regardless whether or not
Speaker 7: he has a contract. But it is something that shows
Speaker 7: some change and shows some that they're working with. He's
Speaker 7: not upset necessarily, and he's willing to keep putting in
Speaker 7: the work in a certain capacity.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just bothered that, you know, we're in this
Speaker 3: offseason and we see Miles Garrett say, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm sick of this Brown stuff. I'm sick of football
Speaker 3: and my and my contract is going to be complex too,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to be here. I'm leaving. And
Speaker 3: then next thing, you know, Miles Garrett is this big
Speaker 3: stupid contract. He's like boy Brown for life, y'all. What
Speaker 3: we're doing at quarterback right, like just at the you know,
Speaker 3: not the snapper, you think hyperbly, right, but maybe like
Speaker 3: in a week or two weeks, we're gonna really wait
Speaker 3: this whole thing. And I hope that we don't get
Speaker 3: to the end of training camp and now we're like, okay,
Speaker 3: well Michaeh hasn't worked out and now he needs five weeks.
Speaker 4: And I can ask a question on that, please on
Speaker 4: the Browns. How many big contracts do they have on
Speaker 4: their rush?
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's I'm just I want to make sure again,
Speaker 3: that's totally let's do the full thing.
Speaker 5: If we're gonna use them as examples.
Speaker 4: No, if we're gonna use him as example, though, I
Speaker 4: want to make sure that we're comparing apple stapples. I
Speaker 4: don't think that's of the apple stapples comparison.
Speaker 3: Maybe not apples to apples. But in this case, if
Speaker 3: you're the jones Is and you've paid this player, this player,
Speaker 3: this player now your best player, like he's the Browns
Speaker 3: best player. So if Michael is one of our top
Speaker 3: three guys and we've paid these I'm like, man.
Speaker 4: Michael, Michael, Michael is not and will not be the
Speaker 4: highest paid player on this team even when this still
Speaker 4: is done.
Speaker 3: But even to that point, they knew Michael was coming.
Speaker 3: You know, they knew that this Like they set it
Speaker 3: up to where, all right, in this amount of time,
Speaker 3: this is gonna happen. Oh Michael going crazy. So you
Speaker 3: know by year three that he's gonna be looking for something.
Speaker 3: This should have been in their mind or I'm not
Speaker 3: telling him how to do their job. I didn't go
Speaker 3: to school for this, but I'm just saying, maybe that's
Speaker 3: maybe there's a way to get around this and maybe
Speaker 3: nickeling down somebody else.
Speaker 5: I think those are all fair questions.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that we think about
Speaker 4: it from the standpoint of it's not always just as
Speaker 4: simple as we'll just go get them whatever he wants.
Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of things that have
Speaker 4: to be negotiated, and there are a lot of things that
Speaker 4: have to be negotiated on both sides. Both both parties
Speaker 4: have to be willing to make the negotiation, as Brian
Speaker 4: was saying, but there has to be a coming together
Speaker 4: of ideas for them to actors get the deal done.
Speaker 6: There's no sense of urgency for agents to deal with
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. There's no sense of urgency none, because what
Speaker 6: happens is and to be honest with you about the Browns,
Speaker 6: you can look at the quarterback Watson and then also
Speaker 6: Denzel war are two high, very high paid guys for them.
Speaker 6: But you look, there's no sense of urgency and that
Speaker 6: and and and and this is just where we always
Speaker 6: like to say in the media world it's a small
Speaker 6: sample size. It's not a small sample size anymore. It's
Speaker 6: not you see how some of the contracts have been
Speaker 6: done here and how they've been structured, and I don't
Speaker 6: think it's always fair to the Joneses, but this is
Speaker 6: where are at right now because agents can wait you out.
Speaker 6: Nobody wants to have to sit there and deal. They
Speaker 6: would love to negotiate in good faith with them about
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons, or with Dak Press Scott, or with Ceed
Speaker 6: Lamp or all these guys. You know, we say they wait,
Speaker 6: they wait, they wait. We don't always know. On the
Speaker 6: other side, I think agents hold the Cowboys up. I
Speaker 6: really do. I think I think Steven Adam, Todd Williams,
Speaker 6: everybody that does a contract upstairs.
Speaker 2: I think they want to negotiate. I really do.
Speaker 6: I think they want to be a part. We've seen though,
Speaker 6: when it's Osa and others. I brought that up. We've
Speaker 6: seen digs when it was when it wasn't the full
Speaker 6: top deal for corners. We've seen what negotiations look like
Speaker 6: on certain players. But these top players, though, it has
Speaker 6: been a struggle.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 6: Again, I don't think it's all Dallas Cowboy's faultier. But
Speaker 6: if I'm an agent and I'm sitting there and I
Speaker 6: know what type of player Michael Parsons is, I'm not
Speaker 6: picking up the phone. I'm going to make you wait
Speaker 6: every single minute on this one.
Speaker 7: And that's what's difficult because you do get that sense of, oh,
Speaker 7: there's no urgency because you don't see things actually happening.
Speaker 7: But even though you're waiting and waiting, and we've seen
Speaker 7: it case after case, at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: for the most part, they get it done. The Cowboys
Speaker 7: end up signing it.
Speaker 6: And that's why Stephen Jones is pissed off right now
Speaker 6: because he doesn't get to do with the Joneses. The
Speaker 6: Joneses are tremendous. We could talk about all the things
Speaker 6: that they do on the football side. These folks are
Speaker 6: billionaires because of businesses that they run. They negotiate, they
Speaker 6: know how to talk to people, they know how to
Speaker 6: get deals done. That's something that they are good at.
Speaker 6: You know, now they're getting their ass kicked on the
Speaker 6: football side of things because people are not willing to
Speaker 6: step to the table and negotiate with them because they
Speaker 6: know that all of a sudden, if you hold them up,
Speaker 6: pull them up, holding up you know, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones,
Speaker 6: they know they have to trying to build a football
Speaker 6: team here. They felt like they had to have Dak
Speaker 6: Prescott that was worth them to put that check in
Speaker 6: front of Dak Prescott. You know it's gonna be worth.
Speaker 6: It was worth them to have ceede Lamb. They put
Speaker 6: that check in front of them. You know, they're small
Speaker 6: hard enough to know that their best players need to
Speaker 6: get paid. They're just not getting to negotiate like they're
Speaker 6: really good at in my opinion.
Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna tack our first break.
Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna talk about some more
Speaker 4: observations from OTA's who get on the field a little bit,
Speaker 4: talk about some of stuff that was happening out there
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Speaker 4: so we were gonna take a I was gonna take
Speaker 4: a right, and in the break, I think we decided
Speaker 4: we want to take a left because we got into
Speaker 4: a conversation I thought was really interesting. Brian, you teed
Speaker 4: up the question, and I thought it's a really really
Speaker 4: great question. If let's assume that that Pickens has a
Speaker 4: really great year and you get to next off season
Speaker 4: and you have to make a decision as the Cowboys
Speaker 4: on resigning either deron Bland.
Speaker 7: That was your question, go ahead, nought, I was taking
Speaker 7: I was taking credit.
Speaker 5: Great question.
Speaker 2: I've learned not to interrupt my teammates.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't let you say go ahead, please finish the
Speaker 3: question close to to tell you the question.
Speaker 4: The question is if you had you had to choose,
Speaker 4: would you take would you sign Pickens or would you
Speaker 4: not Bland. I made the arguments, got no trouble. By
Speaker 4: the way, he has a great year because exactly what
Speaker 4: you asked him to be.
Speaker 5: He comes in. He is a one B receiver.
Speaker 4: He has some games that you don't win without him
Speaker 4: making plays that he makes. All those things off the field,
Speaker 4: there are no problems. He is the model citizen, He's
Speaker 4: a great teammate, all those things. I still say I
Speaker 4: go with Bland because I think in terms of replacement value,
Speaker 4: And the point that I was trying to make is
Speaker 4: I think you guys are talent evaluators. That's what you
Speaker 4: do with the draft show. So you might have a
Speaker 4: different opinion. I trust your opinion, but I think there
Speaker 4: are more talented wide receivers out there than there are
Speaker 4: talented cornerbacks.
Speaker 5: I think there is a larger number. So for me, it's.
Speaker 4: Harder to go out and replace a Bland than it
Speaker 4: is to go out and replace a Pickens. That's nothing
Speaker 4: against Pickens. It's just saying there are more of them
Speaker 4: out there. It's another reasons why you pay. As we
Speaker 4: were talking about the first segment, you pay your top
Speaker 4: flight pass rush because there aren't a lot of those
Speaker 4: guys around, Like, it's hard to find those guys. What
Speaker 4: was the argument you guys were making because both of
Speaker 4: you guys thought you'd take pickings over Bland.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely taking pickings, and there's a lot of context
Speaker 3: that I would add to it. First of all, how
Speaker 3: the Cowboys operate, you know what I mean, Like we're
Speaker 3: drafting and we're not gonna go find help outside. Okay,
Speaker 3: we found pickings outside, but boy was that rare. So
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking is if you're winning games, you're gonna
Speaker 3: be drafting late in the first Okay, So if you
Speaker 3: so those top tier wire receivers you're mentioning, for the
Speaker 3: most part, they go one to fifteen. They go really
Speaker 3: high in the draft. And maybe it's like a new
Speaker 3: trend or something like that, but all the best corners
Speaker 3: that me and Brian and you know draft guys and
Speaker 3: gals that we love. Those corners end up going later.
Speaker 3: Joey Porter, Terry and Arnold guys, Cooper de Jean, those guys,
Speaker 3: they end up going later. Trevon Diggs was a Round
Speaker 3: two guy for US. Bland was you know, hitting GM.
Speaker 3: Win't gonna take craft for that one.
Speaker 4: But it's like, although y'all did get it right on
Speaker 4: the draft show, you weren't a part of that, but
Speaker 4: they did. That was one guy they were touting a
Speaker 4: lot on the Josh I remember hearing that going on.
Speaker 3: Pay roll then. But but in my mind, yeah, you
Speaker 3: can find receivers, and maybe other teams that draft high
Speaker 3: in the draft can find top tier receivers. But if
Speaker 3: you're the Cowboys and you plan on winning and you're
Speaker 3: in this Dak Prescott win though you're gonna be drafting
Speaker 3: in the dag On twenties, you can't find me a
Speaker 3: wide receiver in the twenties. That's like George Pickens. I
Speaker 3: think George Pickens is a bona fide dude, Like he's
Speaker 3: in that lamb ilk. To me, maybe not a top
Speaker 3: three guy in the league, but he's in that twelve
Speaker 3: to fifteen. Those guys are like top tier two. I
Speaker 3: love Bland, but when it was time for Bland to
Speaker 3: be wire, you know, cornerback one DK Metcalf had a
Speaker 3: lot to say about that and we had to call
Speaker 3: Gill like, hey, Gilly, can you please take care of this?
Speaker 3: Or there have been times where hey, Jordan Lewis was
Speaker 3: the best corner in our group of corners or whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: I think, just me personally, I think Cede Lamb having
Speaker 3: a running mate is more valuable than your cornerback room
Speaker 3: being being full of guys, so to speak.
Speaker 6: I think everything you said is absolutely right. And I
Speaker 6: say that because you know, when you look at it though,
Speaker 6: overall though that that's the one thing this team really
Speaker 6: really needed. You know, you have this outstanding player in
Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb. You have a quarterback that's very capable of
Speaker 6: getting a football, but you're just it's just really like
Speaker 6: the old one one trick Boney situation. You know the
Speaker 6: fact that they felt like that, hey, we have to
Speaker 6: go and make a bold move to go get a guy,
Speaker 6: and they did that. You know, I mean, that's bold
Speaker 6: to go get a guy that people think, oh it
Speaker 6: might be a little bit of a problem, might be
Speaker 6: a locker room problem.
Speaker 2: All these things like that. No, they said, no, we need.
Speaker 6: It's it's so important to us to go get a
Speaker 6: guy that can play outside. Now what do they do
Speaker 6: in the draft? They might have addressed the situation though
Speaker 6: with with Revel. And I'm saying this because I think
Speaker 6: that Revel kind of falls into the group of.
Speaker 2: Guys that I look at.
Speaker 6: I look at how these these quarterbacks and the names
Speaker 6: or the names are like we were talking about the
Speaker 6: Cooper de Jeans, the Patrick Certant, Garrett Williams is a
Speaker 6: guy that plays very high level there at Arizona. We
Speaker 6: don't know a lot about him. Trent McDuffie, Derek Stingley.
Speaker 6: These are guys that have to line up on a
Speaker 6: weekly basis and cover these big time receivers. But the
Speaker 6: every one of those guys that named are super talented guys.
Speaker 6: The thing about it is, though this team needs a
Speaker 6: wide receiver opposite lamp, and they went and got one.
Speaker 6: I think they And the thing that's terrifying to me,
Speaker 6: and I'll just say it one more time, is that
Speaker 6: that he has a great campaign. But then you're not
Speaker 6: allowed or you can't go and get him and keep
Speaker 6: him as part of the offense, and get him going
Speaker 6: with Dak and with CD and and helping helping this
Speaker 6: team score.
Speaker 4: Well just as much as this team needs a second
Speaker 4: wide receiver opposite Lamb. We were watching last season when
Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs went down. It ain't nice when you don't
Speaker 4: have two, maybe three, really really good corners in this league,
Speaker 4: because you will get beat up. Yeah, And I do
Speaker 4: think like I agree with you. I think Rebel can
Speaker 4: certainly make me think a little bit more about whether
Speaker 4: I would say I can do without Bland. But man,
Speaker 4: I still believe in today's NFL because of all the
Speaker 4: good talented wide receivers there are out there, if you
Speaker 4: don't have a bevy of really good cornerbacks, you are
Speaker 4: gonna be screwed. And I feel like the Cowboys fat
Speaker 4: they stole one with Bland to let him walk away
Speaker 4: after after his first contract, I think would be a travesty.
Speaker 7: I gotta start doing hancing. I know, I feel it.
Speaker 3: I feel it.
Speaker 7: But now it's my turn. Okay. I think one, we're
Speaker 7: having this conversation way too soon for my liking fun conversation.
Speaker 7: But I think there's still a lot more to see
Speaker 7: of what actually developed throughout the season. I will say
Speaker 7: I'm totally with Derek, and I think at the same time,
Speaker 7: I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. I
Speaker 7: think you can make a very very balid point for
Speaker 7: both things, but with their own bland Although you say,
Speaker 7: and you could technically find guys to be at corner,
Speaker 7: but a guy like Blent is not easy to find.
Speaker 7: Not only is he the only issue he's had was
Speaker 7: that injury that he dealt with that kept him out,
Speaker 7: and that was tough, and you got to look at
Speaker 7: what the team and the defense can look like without
Speaker 7: a guy like him. He's been such a solid guy,
Speaker 7: not a diva. You know, some corners are a very
Speaker 7: diva like ish, very constant and the type of guy
Speaker 7: that you want in the locker room. So that is
Speaker 7: not necessarily always something that you see all the time.
Speaker 7: And he has again that record breaking season. You cannot
Speaker 7: forget about that. Something that the Cowboys lacked last year
Speaker 7: was the turnovers, the interceptions, and where was Blent, you know,
Speaker 7: recovering and then he got a chance to come back
Speaker 7: for a little bit, but it wasn't there. And I'm
Speaker 7: expecting hopefully he gets back into that form shown he
Speaker 7: can do it, and I think he is a game
Speaker 7: changer for the defense.
Speaker 2: I'll help you make your argument here. Ag.
Speaker 6: Philadelphi Eagles were clearly a different team with Cooper Dejene
Speaker 6: and then Quinn Mitchell. Their defense went from like one
Speaker 6: of the worst when it came to playing past defense.
Speaker 6: You know, if you look at the year before and
Speaker 6: they and they moved on from Maddox and others. You know,
Speaker 6: they just said, you know, we're not good enough.
Speaker 2: Well they do.
Speaker 6: They drafted to Mitchell and then also Degene and that
Speaker 6: made a huge difference in their.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl run.
Speaker 6: So that is if you're looking at that side of things,
Speaker 6: you know, and I to be fair like, I say,
Speaker 6: I just think that to me, with the investment that
Speaker 6: you've made in your quarterback, you better find a way
Speaker 6: to help him as much as possible because we're gonna
Speaker 6: have to get to a point where, maybe two years
Speaker 6: from now, where the evaluation is like and I'm just
Speaker 6: saying this as.
Speaker 2: The evaluation and it's not working.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 6: We all go through life and we all make these
Speaker 6: plans and stuff the things we're going to do, but
Speaker 6: then in two years, three years from now, we're saying
Speaker 6: it's not working. I want to do everything my power.
Speaker 6: I've helped him potentially with the play caller. Now, I've
Speaker 6: helped him with potentially new offensive line coaches, maybe some
Speaker 6: new talent at right guard, maybe adding a receiver. But
Speaker 6: the evaluation, at the end of the day, the most
Speaker 6: expensive evaluation and the most important evaluation is who's playing quarterback.
Speaker 6: And if I don't have George Pickens playing out there,
Speaker 6: and it's Tolbert and others who have kind of just
Speaker 6: every year, I've kind of said, I need this guy
Speaker 6: to improve. I need to No, I know, I got
Speaker 6: a war daddy out there playing right now.
Speaker 4: And I agree with the concept that if Pickens is
Speaker 4: not going to be here, you better replace him with
Speaker 4: somebody who's talented. Because I agree with they're going to
Speaker 4: need they need to talented wide receivers. I agree with
Speaker 4: that part of it. I just think if you're faced
Speaker 4: with I got to replace a top notch corner or
Speaker 4: I have to replace a top notch receiver, I think
Speaker 4: you have a better chance of replacing that corner. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm replacing that wide receiver. Then you do that corner
Speaker 4: in one year's draft or in free agency. I just
Speaker 4: think there are more of them. I just think there's
Speaker 4: a better chance you can find that guy at wide
Speaker 4: receiver position.
Speaker 5: Then you can find that guy coin.
Speaker 2: Now I go flip Miami two and I'll go get
Speaker 2: Jalen Ram.
Speaker 3: I think I think a corner.
Speaker 2: I think he's Miami Dolphin. Yeah, I think, yes, he's
Speaker 2: a miamiphin.
Speaker 3: I think I can live without like a lockdown corner.
Speaker 3: It'll be cool to have a lockdown corner. But like,
Speaker 3: as long as your corner is not like that.
Speaker 4: Plan ain't a lockdown I don't call Bland a lockdown corner.
Speaker 4: Bland is a guy that can get turnovers and not
Speaker 4: only that, he can get turn ups and tournament to points.
Speaker 4: That's what I love about him, and that's the thing
Speaker 4: that's uncommon about him. You go out and try to
Speaker 4: find that guy that's a hard guy to.
Speaker 3: Replace, even even if he's like a regular degular guy
Speaker 3: that just doesn't get like, he doesn't like, he doesn't
Speaker 3: get picked at all. Like even he's just a regular okay, cool,
Speaker 3: just don't get because in real life, rebel may be that.
Speaker 3: This year, I think highly of him as a prospect.
Speaker 2: But you're stolen there. I think so.
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking like year two or three rebels, that
Speaker 3: one rebel may just be a solid, cool, good corner.
Speaker 3: I'm cool with a solid a solid, cool, good corner.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys are gonna have to play against teams that
Speaker 3: put points on the board, regardless of who you got
Speaker 3: lined up at corner, because we got corners and and
Speaker 3: we have Trevon di is called eleven picks in one year,
Speaker 3: and Bland can lead the league and pick six and
Speaker 3: all that, and teams will still find a way to
Speaker 3: put thirty and forty on you. I think you need
Speaker 3: firepower to match that. That's just my own take.
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about a couple of other observations that we
Speaker 4: had from OTA's Let's go on the field. Elie Cooker, Uh,
Speaker 4: he had he left practice during warm ups. Actually I
Speaker 4: was adving supposedly reports he was having backspasms.
Speaker 5: Nothing serious that that I've.
Speaker 4: Heard, but that being said, I thought the interesting thing
Speaker 4: was Elijah Clark is a name that I started seeing
Speaker 4: him get some work in previous weeks. He got more
Speaker 4: work yesterday to hook her out. Even Janya Thomas, a safety,
Speaker 4: they had him kind of working in the slot a
Speaker 4: little bit yesterday. Talk to me first about Elijah Clark.
Speaker 4: What have you seen from him? What kind of Scotty
Speaker 4: report can you give on him? Because he seems to
Speaker 4: be a guy that has an undrafted, drafted free agent
Speaker 4: is at least he's getting some opportunities.
Speaker 3: Versatile player, tackler, very active in the run game, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of long lines up everywhere, deep strong nickel. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he's gonna have a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: nickel in the league, but as Syracuse they did it.
Speaker 3: Pretty rangy player active, you know, I wouldn't put him
Speaker 3: at a one high rangey guy, but he could be
Speaker 3: like a two high rangey type guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a guy that you talk to people
Speaker 6: in the organization usually when they go after these guys,
Speaker 6: usually when it's you know, when when you can this
Speaker 6: is one of those cases you can actually follow the
Speaker 6: money a little bit. But here is one of the
Speaker 6: guys that got one of the larger UH signing bonuses,
Speaker 6: if you want to say, of the rookie undrafted guys.
Speaker 6: And so that told me that he's somewhere between the
Speaker 6: fifth and sixth round on their board what they were
Speaker 6: able to do. So here they are picking off guys
Speaker 6: that are on their draft board. I think Vatch gave
Speaker 6: you the right thumbnail about this kiddy. It looks kind
Speaker 6: of like a corner he six one eight the way
Speaker 6: he's built.
Speaker 2: UH. But he is one of.
Speaker 6: Those guys that he does play downhill, he does tackle well.
Speaker 6: I think he saw the field pretty well. You suck
Speaker 6: out the range and what his ability Matti RIFLEU is
Speaker 6: playing a little more single high with some of the stuff.
Speaker 6: He'll play the two, but the single high, and you
Speaker 6: could do that with this guy. So I don't know
Speaker 6: how much you want to put him in coverage stuff
Speaker 6: underneath the nickel corner kind of slot player. I don't
Speaker 6: think that's his cup of tea. But you talk about
Speaker 6: a guy that's physical downhill and willing to throw his
Speaker 6: body in there and make tackles. But he evidently he's
Speaker 6: a smart guy too, because this is not the first
Speaker 6: time that we've seen him get work with these with
Speaker 6: the first defense one of the first times the observations
Speaker 6: that we've been able to make in camp, he was
Speaker 6: kind of working in So this tells me they liked
Speaker 6: this kid, sat on their board at a pretty high
Speaker 6: spot to be drafted, didn't get it done. They went
Speaker 6: and got him. Probably a smart kid. They're now putting
Speaker 6: him in there and seeing how much he could really learn.
Speaker 6: Throw a lot of things at him, and then when
Speaker 6: they get to camp, you could really see what kind
Speaker 6: of player you have in him.
Speaker 7: But you can start just by looking at practice and
Speaker 7: seeing that and the fact that he's been given in
Speaker 7: those opportunities, that's already telling enough that that's someone okay,
Speaker 7: they really really like, because you don't tend to see,
Speaker 7: at least from my experience, you don't see that a lot,
Speaker 7: a whole lot during this time of the year until
Speaker 7: you get maybe to training camp and you see more
Speaker 7: of those battles on the second team and all that.
Speaker 7: But again, for someone that's undrafted, which you know it's
Speaker 7: not that you're taking somebody else's spot that's ahead of
Speaker 7: you quote unquote, that tells you a lot that he's
Speaker 7: putting in the work, and I would expect and think
Speaker 7: that it also goes to what they're doing in the classroom,
Speaker 7: what they're studying in those in those meeting rooms that
Speaker 7: it's from the head being smart, and those also when
Speaker 7: they're like that in the class I'm rambling here what
Speaker 7: I'm trying to say. When when the mind is there
Speaker 7: and you're putting in the textbook work, it creates more
Speaker 7: opportunities for you on the field. So it again, it's
Speaker 7: just the two on two and it's a guy that
Speaker 7: we're definitely going to be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 6: The one interesting one though, I think you need to
Speaker 6: look at though, is with we mentioned Parsons earlier in
Speaker 6: the broadcast, donovand Azeraku has been playing a little bit
Speaker 6: of Michael Parson's role at practice, playing at that linebacker,
Speaker 6: the rush guy.
Speaker 2: Then the good time.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry about if you have a but yeah, I
Speaker 6: think that to me, I always look and see where
Speaker 6: guys are lining up where we're playing. You know, watch
Speaker 6: and I were doing our show last night. They're doing
Speaker 6: all Right podcasts and we were talking about uh with
Speaker 6: with Elam and like it seems like that every practice,
Speaker 6: you know that we've been able to watch Elam's making place.
Speaker 6: Well then okay, well what's where's guy's lining up now?
Speaker 6: Oh Rookie as Araku? Oh wait no, Michael Parsons, Oh wait,
Speaker 6: he's standing up always playing outside as a rusher. They're
Speaker 6: kind of seeing if he could take those those Michael
Speaker 6: Parsons type snaps. And maybe if you have a situation
Speaker 6: where Micah does get tired or it has to come
Speaker 6: off the field, that maybe as Araku in their mind,
Speaker 6: is going to be a guy that they could plug
Speaker 6: in and play those spots real quick.
Speaker 4: I also wanted to mention as a part of conversation
Speaker 4: with having with a lot of regarding Elijah Clark, this
Speaker 4: often happens sometimes when you get a new coordinator in,
Speaker 4: they have different schemes, and so you'll start to notice
Speaker 4: that some guys that may have been a part of.
Speaker 5: The previous regime, uh, maybe they may not have.
Speaker 4: Necessarily the particular skill set that the new coordinator would want.
Speaker 4: What do you know, guys know about how let's say
Speaker 4: Zimmer chooses to use safeties versus maybe how flu flus
Speaker 4: uses safeties, and maybe if there are any differences that
Speaker 4: we should be paying attention to as we're watching these
Speaker 4: safeties during training.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of single high stuff with with Flus,
Speaker 6: you know, and you know he you know, he comes
Speaker 6: from that. Originally he was with the Rob Ryan administration
Speaker 6: and then he's transitioned into the Rod Marinelli who would
Speaker 6: play a lot of cover too. You know that that
Speaker 6: we always talk about the Tampa two stuff. But you
Speaker 6: see if but if you look at the metrics, he's
Speaker 6: a single high guy, is what he is.
Speaker 2: So he's talking about Flu.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's he's he's at the at the at
Speaker 6: the Bears, they were doing a lot more single high
Speaker 6: stuff there, but you know it was it was like say,
Speaker 6: with Zimmer, it was a lot of just you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of that where he was playing that's a
Speaker 6: single high stuff and then he was kind of adjusting
Speaker 6: for what he had to do.
Speaker 5: So similar from the safe foot they're at similar.
Speaker 6: But more I think more even more with Flus. I
Speaker 6: think more with Flu. Flus is a ton of zone
Speaker 6: defense stuff, where Zimmer was more a lot man.
Speaker 3: Zim wanted to do everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zim wanted to do everything.
Speaker 3: This is going to hyper focus on.
Speaker 6: Exactly exactly and see I think guys too, like I
Speaker 6: want to say this, I think that a guy like
Speaker 6: Janier Thomas gets a fresh breath of air with a
Speaker 6: new coaching staff. I remember talking to Mike Zimmer about
Speaker 6: this last year in training camp and asking and asking
Speaker 6: him about how he liked Donovan Wilson and Hooker and
Speaker 6: all that he was. He was really really on board
Speaker 6: with both players. But then we come to we have
Speaker 6: a change in the coaching staff, and now you see,
Speaker 6: you know what happens. We get tender offers, we get
Speaker 6: contract offers, you get Thomas signed, you get Bell signed.
Speaker 6: That's telling me that Fluc and these guys have coming
Speaker 6: in and making an influence that way, that they like
Speaker 6: what they've seen with these two guys, and so now
Speaker 6: they're gonna get more of an opportunity. This might not
Speaker 6: bode well for guy like Sam Williams, who is also
Speaker 6: in that situation. He's trying to get healthy, but now
Speaker 6: his sponsors are kind of out the door right here,
Speaker 6: So you know, it's there's a lot going on here.
Speaker 6: You know, when it comes to coaching staff, sometimes guys go,
Speaker 6: I got a new chance, and the other guys go, damn,
Speaker 6: my guy's gone.
Speaker 3: Some guys can't get hurt like some guys do not
Speaker 3: have the luxury to get hurt. Like there are some
Speaker 3: veterans to where they feel like, if Okay, I leave
Speaker 3: and I come back, I'll still be fine. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of young safeties in this room or in that
Speaker 3: safety room that are just waiting for an opportunity, and
Speaker 3: I think if they get on the field, I think
Speaker 3: it's going to be really hard for you to get
Speaker 3: them off the field. There's a lot of guys in
Speaker 3: their linebacker room that are fighting for their life, competing
Speaker 3: and competing, competing. So if you're like an old veteran
Speaker 3: life back Clark, if the moon and Clark, you've been
Speaker 3: in this team for a long.
Speaker 2: Time, interception yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got some guys that been drafted last year,
Speaker 3: drafted this year, some.
Speaker 2: Sign sign guys, two guys.
Speaker 3: Some of y'all can't afford to miss a week here,
Speaker 3: a week there. You gotta stay healthy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's no veteran day off this year.
Speaker 5: That's easy for you to say.
Speaker 4: Those veterans like I need a day off every once,
Speaker 4: not this year, not this year.
Speaker 6: On the way, there's something I would like to see though,
Speaker 6: the training cramp, training camp practices something like that. Training
Speaker 6: camp practices, you know, I'm interested to see how those
Speaker 6: are going to go. But I really do want to
Speaker 6: see a preseason though more veteran players play. I would
Speaker 6: like to see more of an how is this going
Speaker 6: to work?
Speaker 7: How is this going to you have to I don't
Speaker 7: see how you don't with what you got waiting for
Speaker 7: you on week Once.
Speaker 4: Didn't it made me see, Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 5: I just do.
Speaker 4: I do think obviously this year they're starting on Thursday night,
Speaker 4: opening the season against the defending champs. I do think
Speaker 4: that that I will be interested to see if they
Speaker 4: look at preseason now. Part of it might just be
Speaker 4: the coach has a different philosophy, right, we got a
Speaker 4: new coach, but I would I would love to see
Speaker 4: how I want to see how they address that and
Speaker 4: if they will and at least give him a few
Speaker 4: reps veterans, because these last couple of years it's been
Speaker 4: like literally they just don't play.
Speaker 6: I do not I do not have any any thoughts that, like,
Speaker 6: you know, to me, I look at like I was
Speaker 6: with Andy Reid and what he does in Kansas City,
Speaker 6: and obviously they've had success, so they have pat Mahomes
Speaker 6: and a lot of other things going for him there.
Speaker 6: But there's some teams that do that absolutely take preseason
Speaker 6: seriously in that way and get evaluations. And then there's
Speaker 6: some teams like the Rams, that guy does not care
Speaker 6: about what's going on in preseason. But I think, I
Speaker 6: think Dallas me personally, this is being selfish. I want
Speaker 6: to see this offensive line play together. I want to
Speaker 6: see him have a little six. I want to see
Speaker 6: if Miles Sanders really can. In the last couple of
Speaker 6: times we've had media availability, Miles Sanders has come out
Speaker 6: as a guy that's got some juice to his game.
Speaker 6: I'd love to see him run the ball a little bit,
Speaker 6: you know, and see if, in fact that we get
Speaker 6: some some block and it's protection and and go that
Speaker 6: route and kind of have a little positivity going into
Speaker 6: that Thursday night game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, between all the new coaches and all the new players,
Speaker 4: I almost think you have to in order to just
Speaker 4: get them prepared for the upcoming season.
Speaker 5: It's one thing.
Speaker 4: We have a veteran team that's pretty much stayed together
Speaker 4: for a year, two years, three years, whatever the case
Speaker 4: might be. But this team feels like there's so much
Speaker 4: newness that I just feel like it might be necessary.
Speaker 6: I think some of the slow starts that they've had
Speaker 6: offensively have been because they don't play preseason games.
Speaker 2: That's just me, all right.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys joining us. That's a wrap. We'll
Speaker 5: be back next week.
Speaker 4: We'll wrap this thing up for this offseason and then
Speaker 4: start getting you guys ready for training camp. Till then,
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