1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: for a break? Absolutely? 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton. 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 4: It is Wednesday, June fourth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: episode number thirteen. 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This is the next to last show Man. 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: We got a whole group of people out here watching 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: kids from the neighborhood come through to see what we're 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 4: doing here on the air, here on the break. 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 6: You don't want to do for a living for kids, 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 6: go make some money and happy in. 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: School, eat your vegetables, eight hours asleep. 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 5: There you go, there you go, you vitamins, there you 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: take vitamins. 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: I haven't. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: I don't. 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: I haven't taken vitamins. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Growing up Flintstones, vitamins. 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: From National I don't know if they have vitamins and Nationals. 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't know they do. 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 5: My mom grew up there, and yes, I assume they have. 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: I ain't seeing. No, we just got it naturally. We 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: would just eat our vegetables and that's where we'll get 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: them from there. 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 5: You go, Hey, that works all right. This is our 36 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 5: next to last show. 37 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: We only have one more show before we take a 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: little break here. 39 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 6: Wow, yeah, that's amazing watching working to check us out 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 6: are Yeah, no worry about and we'll take. 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: I always believe that during certain times of the year, 42 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: and this is the only time of the year when 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: the team goes away. The only time we really have 44 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: anything to talk about regarding the team is if something 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: bad happens. 46 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that gave me. 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 7: You have no idea how you just changed my life. Really, 48 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 7: you gave me amazing news. Yes, well good, yeah, have 49 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 7: you done this? 50 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: You know, we take a break. 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 7: For us forget. I'm just you know, I just yeah, 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 7: the timeline wasn't time and anyway, we'll see. 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: A well we have we have we have this week 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: and we have next week, and then we're gonna move 55 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: on and get ready for training camp, and we'll be 56 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: out in training camp later in July, and we'll have 57 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: lots of shows teeing up at that time, and then 58 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 4: obviously kicking off the season went back to our normal 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: daily schedule once we hit September. 60 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 5: Today, though, I want to. 61 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about the OTAs that have been 62 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: happening over the last couple of weeks. We had some 63 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: media availability yesterday, and where I want to start. I 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: have a few observations, just things that that were either 65 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: said or were noticed yesterday, and uh, there aren't questions. 66 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna throw them out and I'm just gonna 67 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: free for all and let you guys talk about whatever 68 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: those observations are. 69 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Let's start for know, your talent is what you do 70 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: I do. 71 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: Uh, let's start first with my comparisons. He was at 72 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: the Star but did not practiced yesterday. 73 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 74 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: He is expected though, to be here next week for 75 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: the management as he said, he mentioned that he expects 76 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: to be here. 77 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 78 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: Stephen Jones was asked about his absence and whether it bothering. 79 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 5: His quote was no. 80 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: As part of the business all teams go through it 81 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: and that's part of the business. 82 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: Thoughts man, he said, I don't want to hear this 83 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: no more. I don't want to hear any more question 84 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: the the What is he the vice president of co? 85 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: What is it like? 86 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: Like, what's his title Stephen Jones' title? I think it 87 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: is co something something you know, player person. 88 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: He's definitely sweet, an owner and. 89 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: Something something fancy see Cowboys doesn't want to talk about 90 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons no more so. I imagine that it is frustrating. 91 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: I imagine that he's sick of hearing about it. But 92 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: what you're gonna do? 93 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: Player? 94 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: I mean you you you're gonna give him what they're 95 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: asking for? Or are we gonna continue to play chicken? 96 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: I think with certain kind of players, I don't think 97 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: you should negotiate or you you you shouldn't try to well, 98 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: can you let me slide on a million here? A 99 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: million there? Michael Parsons is arguably one of the best 100 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: players in football, not just defense, not just edge, the 101 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: whole football. You can nickel and dime Donovan Willis. I 102 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: ain't want to say now you can nickel and dime 103 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: some other players. You can nickel and dime some of 104 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: your new linebackers that you just brought in here vet 105 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: minimum these guys, get ahead of it, Stephen Jones, get 106 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: ahead of it. Pay them whatever they want, whatever stupid 107 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: amount of money that's gonna make him the highest paid 108 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: player on defense. TJ. Watter pass it in a little bit. 109 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: Somebody else is passing a little bit. Some new defensive 110 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: player will make that a deal in five years time. 111 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: So let's let's stop playing today. Let's stop. Let me 112 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: ask this question. That's this question. 113 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: You're making an assumption sure that whatever the hold up is, 114 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: or the reason why the deal hasn't gotten done is 115 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 4: because of money. 116 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: If I was Steve, are you certain that that's the case. 117 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: If I was Steven, I will say it. I would like, Hey, 118 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: they don't like X y Z. The money's there, we're 119 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: offering them because they want. 120 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 5: To play the no I heard you said. 121 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying, are you sure that that's the case. I 122 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: don't know nothing, because okay, so I guess the point 123 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: the point I don't want to in this hall, and 124 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: I can't leave this hall. I don't know care get 125 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: I guess the point of what I'm saying. 126 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 7: The debate team so I just think I think the 127 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 7: seats no. 128 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: I think we have to be careful when we make 129 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: assumptions on this kind of stuff, because we've seen in 130 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: the past that some of these things get held up 131 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: and they find out later the money wasn't issue, there 132 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: were other things that will be negotiated by the way, Brian, 133 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: you've seen this. 134 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: These contracts have a lot of stuff in them. 135 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: There's a lot of language and a lot of stipulation, 136 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: and sometimes those are the things that hold up a 137 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 4: deal more so than the money. 138 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: So even if in the contract somewhere there ask me, 139 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: even in. 140 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 6: The d of the contracts, he said, Brian, you know 141 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 6: these contracts, if Michael Parsons want to escalate per year, 142 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 6: it's just say Noah, say yeah. 143 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: That's where I'm able to say no, saying. 144 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: What if he's dug in, I want to escalate and 145 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: they're like, well, they not give you escalated with giving 146 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: you sixty million. 147 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Dollars whatever the number is is the is the best 148 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: player in football worth the newest escalade per year? And 149 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: if not, you move on. You call somebody, see if 150 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: you can get some some draft picks for one of 151 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: the best players in the whole league and just and 152 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: just go from there. But if not, he is do 153 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: what you gotta do is gonna stick. 154 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: You gonna get Steven Jones. 155 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: You gonna get whooped in the gun. 156 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 6: Stephen Jones is frustrated right now. He's frustrated, Lewis. He 157 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 6: can't and you know, you cannot. He cannot catch a break. 158 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: And here everybody's gonna sell it broad us your you're 159 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 6: you're going for the Jones is here today. Now, I'll 160 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 6: tell you the side of it that I believe is 161 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 6: the fact that he is in a situation where he 162 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 6: cannot get contracts to get staggered. 163 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: He can't. 164 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: He's got two three contracts he has to work on 165 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 6: every single year. 166 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: He can't get the contract staggered. And all of a sudden, now. 167 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 6: He's in a in a in a little bit of 168 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 6: a of a little bit of a situation where all 169 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 6: of a sudden he's had to pay for the highest paid. 170 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 6: He's had to put out the money for the highest paid. 171 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 6: You know the thing with Lamb that turned into negotiation 172 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 6: and it was a holdout and all that he got 173 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 6: the OsO Diggy Zoo a deal done because they went 174 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 6: under market. Valve he got digs money done because they 175 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 6: went under a little bit under market value. I think 176 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: Stephen Jones will negotiate with you. I think you have 177 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 6: to also look at the other side. I think you 178 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 6: have to look at David Llagetta in this situation. Why 179 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 6: would David Mulligetta even want to take your call. He 180 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 6: knows what he knows what the guy got at the Raiders, 181 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 6: he knows what the guy got at the Browns. He's 182 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 6: thinking probably that ballpark. Stephen Jones is now in a 183 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 6: situation where like, even if I keep trying to make 184 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 6: offers to these guys, they're going to continue to say no, 185 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 6: They're just gonna David Mulligetta has no reason to take 186 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 6: his call. That would be very frustrating to me. If 187 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 6: I was going to try and negotiate a deal like 188 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 6: this one and say, listen, see if I could bring 189 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 6: this thing in at thirty seven to five instead of 190 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: forty forty one or forty two, that would be very 191 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 6: frustrating to me. I think that now you have agents 192 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: that know that the cowboys are over a barrel, and 193 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: when it comes to these negotiations, they've done a great 194 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 6: job of assimbling players for their roster. A great job. 195 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 6: Now it comes to having to pay him. But these 196 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 6: agents have seen what had happened over the years with 197 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: these negotiations. It always ends up in the favor of 198 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 6: and it's in Stephen Jones. I think when he yesterday 199 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 6: lashed out a little bit, you know, he lashed out 200 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: and said, you know, I don't. 201 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Want to talk about this anymore. 202 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 6: I sense frustration because he doesn't get to do what 203 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 6: he does best, and that's negotiate. 204 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: So these agents, right, and let Brown, we're not fighting 205 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: and we're not fighting there. But these these agents, they 206 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: represent players all over the league. Right, So this is 207 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: me asking because I don't have a question. I don't 208 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: have to answers. So why is it that the Lions 209 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: right back to back within three weeks? We can go, 210 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: all right, But a sail gets done, all right, Jered 211 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: God gets done all right? Two or three other people 212 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: get done. The Eagles back to back to back to back. 213 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: They find money, They find money to just pay everybody 214 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: back to back to back to back. Why are we 215 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: the only team? It seems like, hypothetically, in Vaci's mind, 216 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: it seems like, oh man, we gotta wait till the last. 217 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: Oh, you gotta get ahead of it. 218 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: You're right about to wait till the last minute for Mike. 219 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 6: But you, Zach Martin, I think you're the situation too though, 220 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 6: where these agents are holding them up. I think to 221 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: deal with Dak Prescott again, Brian brought us talking here. 222 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 6: You know, not anything from Dallas Cowboys dot comery thing 223 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 6: I've heard of in the building. But you had Todd 224 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 6: France change agencies on on these guys. They thought they 225 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 6: had a deal and all of a sudden France changes agencies. 226 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 6: Look at all his players that year, the year they 227 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 6: all got franchise tag. He didn't negotiate with anybody because 228 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 6: he was leaving one agency to another and he didn't 229 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 6: want to put old business Dack old business with that 230 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 6: old agency. So to me, sometimes you got to catch 231 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 6: a break on these things. Sometimes it's not just the Joneses, 232 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 6: sometimes it is the agents. But what what does David 233 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 6: will get it? Why even does he have to take 234 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: this call? He knows what the numbers are. Stephen can't 235 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 6: Stephen really can't negotiate with him because those are the numbers. 236 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: That's what a negotiations about. 237 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 6: Hey, let's see if we can fall under this, let's 238 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 6: see if we could get under that number. 239 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: And what you think, Brian, Again, I have a. 240 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 7: Couple of things. Number One, you mentioned the Eagles, and 241 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 7: it's an interesting point because I think that's the initial 242 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 7: perception when you talk or look at what the Eagles 243 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 7: have done and start comparing with what the Cowboys have done. 244 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 7: Derek and I have been in a meeting where it 245 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 7: was somewhat explained to us because it's again it's a 246 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 7: very complicated thing, like you need it all mapped out 247 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 7: because there are so many players on the team and 248 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 7: every like it all. It just comes in pieces together, 249 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 7: and it's not you're not just talking about one year, 250 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 7: You're looking at multiple years and all that. But my 251 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 7: understanding and correct me if I'm wrong, Derek, I came 252 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 7: out from that meeting with the with the assumption that 253 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: every team goes through a certain cycle. You're gonna get 254 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 7: to a point where the Eagles are not gonna be 255 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 7: able to do what they've been doing, and then the 256 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 7: Cowboys is gonna be their turn to kind of reset 257 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 7: and restart with this all these contracts and again, very 258 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 7: complicated topic. Don't know exactly how it works, but I 259 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 7: think this is the one year in the in the 260 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 7: limited capacity that they had with the salary cap and 261 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 7: everything like that. I think they've been able to manage 262 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 7: this off season really well in my opinion. Of course, 263 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 7: you still need to get this guy done. Michaeh. We've 264 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 7: been talking about it. We're about to go back to 265 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 7: training camp. I remember being at training camp last year 266 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 7: and him being asked a question about the contract, and 267 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 7: something else that I was gonna mention was the changing attitude. 268 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 7: I can't speak about the conversations that have been done 269 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 7: between his agent and Steven Jones, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, 270 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 7: but one thing that it's clear, and we've been seeing 271 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 7: all the way back since training camp, whether it's genuine 272 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 7: or not, whether it's fake or real, the fact is 273 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 7: Micah has started changing his attitude. Now sure, looking for 274 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 7: that contract, but he started doing things that he hasn't 275 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 7: necessarily done before. For example, even though he hasn't been 276 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 7: at practice, yesterday was the Cowboys media days. This is 277 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 7: the time that Mike, those who know he don't typically 278 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 7: show up to everything, he will not show any by. 279 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: The way, He's not the one there are high profile 280 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 4: players and say I'll do this, I won't do this. 281 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 7: It's that's yeah, yeah yeah. But he's one of those. 282 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 7: And then that if he do do something, he's not 283 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 7: necessarily in the best mood and you just gotta deal 284 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 7: with it. But again, I just want to contrast, contrast 285 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 7: previous year to right now. He showed up yesterday, He 286 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 7: showed up, even did some Spanish stuff, which has never. 287 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 5: In my whole life. But he speaking Spanish. 288 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 7: He he participated, he did good, he did good Spanish. 289 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: Don't they don't. They don't let you know. You a't 290 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: supposed say certain words. But on that point. 291 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 7: I heard, I've heard yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go No, 292 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 7: he does not. I really told him off air, and 293 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 7: I told him there does not approve, So I was 294 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 7: gonna say. Also heard from different stations like the photography 295 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 7: station that he was in a great mood and he 296 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 7: did so good. So again I think the willingness sure 297 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 7: is there that you see some participation, not in full 298 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 7: capacity because he's not showing up and he's already said 299 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 7: he'll be there next week and he said he's going 300 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 7: to show up to training camp regardless whether or not 301 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 7: he has a contract. But it is something that shows 302 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 7: some change and shows some that they're working with. He's 303 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 7: not upset necessarily, and he's willing to keep putting in 304 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 7: the work in a certain capacity. 305 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just bothered that, you know, we're in this 306 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: offseason and we see Miles Garrett say, you know what, 307 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: I'm sick of this Brown stuff. I'm sick of football 308 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: and my and my contract is going to be complex too, 309 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: but I don't want to be here. I'm leaving. And 310 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: then next thing, you know, Miles Garrett is this big 311 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: stupid contract. He's like boy Brown for life, y'all. What 312 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: we're doing at quarterback right, like just at the you know, 313 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: not the snapper, you think hyperbly, right, but maybe like 314 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: in a week or two weeks, we're gonna really wait 315 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: this whole thing. And I hope that we don't get 316 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: to the end of training camp and now we're like, okay, 317 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: well Michaeh hasn't worked out and now he needs five weeks. 318 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: And I can ask a question on that, please on 319 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: the Browns. How many big contracts do they have on 320 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: their rush? 321 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: That's fair, that's I'm just I want to make sure again, 322 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: that's totally let's do the full thing. 323 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 5: If we're gonna use them as examples. 324 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: No, if we're gonna use him as example, though, I 325 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: want to make sure that we're comparing apple stapples. I 326 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: don't think that's of the apple stapples comparison. 327 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: Maybe not apples to apples. But in this case, if 328 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: you're the jones Is and you've paid this player, this player, 329 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: this player now your best player, like he's the Browns 330 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: best player. So if Michael is one of our top 331 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: three guys and we've paid these I'm like, man. 332 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: Michael, Michael, Michael is not and will not be the 333 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: highest paid player on this team even when this still 334 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: is done. 335 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: But even to that point, they knew Michael was coming. 336 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: You know, they knew that this Like they set it 337 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: up to where, all right, in this amount of time, 338 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: this is gonna happen. Oh Michael going crazy. So you 339 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: know by year three that he's gonna be looking for something. 340 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: This should have been in their mind or I'm not 341 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: telling him how to do their job. I didn't go 342 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: to school for this, but I'm just saying, maybe that's 343 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: maybe there's a way to get around this and maybe 344 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: nickeling down somebody else. 345 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: I think those are all fair questions. 346 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that we think about 347 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: it from the standpoint of it's not always just as 348 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: simple as we'll just go get them whatever he wants. 349 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of things that have 350 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: to be negotiated, and there are a lot of things that 351 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: have to be negotiated on both sides. Both both parties 352 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: have to be willing to make the negotiation, as Brian 353 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: was saying, but there has to be a coming together 354 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: of ideas for them to actors get the deal done. 355 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 6: There's no sense of urgency for agents to deal with 356 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 6: the Cowboys. There's no sense of urgency none, because what 357 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 6: happens is and to be honest with you about the Browns, 358 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 6: you can look at the quarterback Watson and then also 359 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 6: Denzel war are two high, very high paid guys for them. 360 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: But you look, there's no sense of urgency and that 361 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 6: and and and and this is just where we always 362 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: like to say in the media world it's a small 363 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 6: sample size. It's not a small sample size anymore. It's 364 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 6: not you see how some of the contracts have been 365 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 6: done here and how they've been structured, and I don't 366 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 6: think it's always fair to the Joneses, but this is 367 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 6: where are at right now because agents can wait you out. 368 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 6: Nobody wants to have to sit there and deal. They 369 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 6: would love to negotiate in good faith with them about 370 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 6: Michael Parsons, or with Dak Press Scott, or with Ceed 371 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 6: Lamp or all these guys. You know, we say they wait, 372 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 6: they wait, they wait. We don't always know. On the 373 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 6: other side, I think agents hold the Cowboys up. I 374 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 6: really do. I think I think Steven Adam, Todd Williams, 375 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: everybody that does a contract upstairs. 376 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: I think they want to negotiate. I really do. 377 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: I think they want to be a part. We've seen though, 378 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 6: when it's Osa and others. I brought that up. We've 379 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 6: seen digs when it was when it wasn't the full 380 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: top deal for corners. We've seen what negotiations look like 381 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 6: on certain players. But these top players, though, it has 382 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 6: been a struggle. 383 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 384 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: Again, I don't think it's all Dallas Cowboy's faultier. But 385 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 6: if I'm an agent and I'm sitting there and I 386 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: know what type of player Michael Parsons is, I'm not 387 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 6: picking up the phone. I'm going to make you wait 388 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: every single minute on this one. 389 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 7: And that's what's difficult because you do get that sense of, oh, 390 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 7: there's no urgency because you don't see things actually happening. 391 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 7: But even though you're waiting and waiting, and we've seen 392 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 7: it case after case, at the end of the day, 393 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 7: for the most part, they get it done. The Cowboys 394 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 7: end up signing it. 395 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 6: And that's why Stephen Jones is pissed off right now 396 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: because he doesn't get to do with the Joneses. The 397 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 6: Joneses are tremendous. We could talk about all the things 398 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 6: that they do on the football side. These folks are 399 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 6: billionaires because of businesses that they run. They negotiate, they 400 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 6: know how to talk to people, they know how to 401 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: get deals done. That's something that they are good at. 402 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 6: You know, now they're getting their ass kicked on the 403 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 6: football side of things because people are not willing to 404 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 6: step to the table and negotiate with them because they 405 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 6: know that all of a sudden, if you hold them up, 406 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: pull them up, holding up you know, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, 407 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 6: they know they have to trying to build a football 408 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 6: team here. They felt like they had to have Dak 409 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 6: Prescott that was worth them to put that check in 410 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 6: front of Dak Prescott. 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See it for yourself 482 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 7: at LG dot com, slash or let evo. 483 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 5: Welcome Back. 484 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 4: It is the second segment of the breakwill life from 485 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: that w a BC Mortgage Studios at the start of 486 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: the segment, brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All Right, 487 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 4: so we were gonna take a I was gonna take 488 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: a right, and in the break, I think we decided 489 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: we want to take a left because we got into 490 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: a conversation I thought was really interesting. Brian, you teed 491 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: up the question, and I thought it's a really really 492 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: great question. If let's assume that that Pickens has a 493 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: really great year and you get to next off season 494 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: and you have to make a decision as the Cowboys 495 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: on resigning either deron Bland. 496 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 7: That was your question, go ahead, nought, I was taking 497 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 7: I was taking credit. 498 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 5: Great question. 499 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: I've learned not to interrupt my teammates. 500 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't let you say go ahead, please finish the 501 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: question close to to tell you the question. 502 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: The question is if you had you had to choose, 503 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: would you take would you sign Pickens or would you 504 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: not Bland. I made the arguments, got no trouble. By 505 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: the way, he has a great year because exactly what 506 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: you asked him to be. 507 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: He comes in. He is a one B receiver. 508 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 4: He has some games that you don't win without him 509 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: making plays that he makes. All those things off the field, 510 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: there are no problems. He is the model citizen, He's 511 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: a great teammate, all those things. I still say I 512 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: go with Bland because I think in terms of replacement value, 513 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 4: And the point that I was trying to make is 514 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: I think you guys are talent evaluators. That's what you 515 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: do with the draft show. So you might have a 516 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: different opinion. I trust your opinion, but I think there 517 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: are more talented wide receivers out there than there are 518 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: talented cornerbacks. 519 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: I think there is a larger number. So for me, it's. 520 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: Harder to go out and replace a Bland than it 521 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 4: is to go out and replace a Pickens. That's nothing 522 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: against Pickens. It's just saying there are more of them 523 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: out there. It's another reasons why you pay. As we 524 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: were talking about the first segment, you pay your top 525 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: flight pass rush because there aren't a lot of those 526 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: guys around, Like, it's hard to find those guys. What 527 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 4: was the argument you guys were making because both of 528 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: you guys thought you'd take pickings over Bland. 529 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm definitely taking pickings, and there's a lot of context 530 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: that I would add to it. First of all, how 531 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys operate, you know what I mean, Like we're 532 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: drafting and we're not gonna go find help outside. Okay, 533 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: we found pickings outside, but boy was that rare. So 534 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: what I'm thinking is if you're winning games, you're gonna 535 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: be drafting late in the first Okay, So if you 536 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: so those top tier wire receivers you're mentioning, for the 537 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: most part, they go one to fifteen. They go really 538 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: high in the draft. And maybe it's like a new 539 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: trend or something like that, but all the best corners 540 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 3: that me and Brian and you know draft guys and 541 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: gals that we love. Those corners end up going later. 542 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 3: Joey Porter, Terry and Arnold guys, Cooper de Jean, those guys, 543 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: they end up going later. Trevon Diggs was a Round 544 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: two guy for US. Bland was you know, hitting GM. 545 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: Win't gonna take craft for that one. 546 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 4: But it's like, although y'all did get it right on 547 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: the draft show, you weren't a part of that, but 548 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: they did. That was one guy they were touting a 549 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: lot on the Josh I remember hearing that going on. 550 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: Pay roll then. But but in my mind, yeah, you 551 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: can find receivers, and maybe other teams that draft high 552 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: in the draft can find top tier receivers. But if 553 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: you're the Cowboys and you plan on winning and you're 554 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: in this Dak Prescott win though you're gonna be drafting 555 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: in the dag On twenties, you can't find me a 556 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: wide receiver in the twenties. That's like George Pickens. I 557 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: think George Pickens is a bona fide dude, Like he's 558 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: in that lamb ilk. To me, maybe not a top 559 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: three guy in the league, but he's in that twelve 560 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: to fifteen. Those guys are like top tier two. I 561 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: love Bland, but when it was time for Bland to 562 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: be wire, you know, cornerback one DK Metcalf had a 563 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: lot to say about that and we had to call 564 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: Gill like, hey, Gilly, can you please take care of this? 565 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: Or there have been times where hey, Jordan Lewis was 566 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: the best corner in our group of corners or whatever. Right, 567 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: I think, just me personally, I think Cede Lamb having 568 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: a running mate is more valuable than your cornerback room 569 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: being being full of guys, so to speak. 570 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 6: I think everything you said is absolutely right. And I 571 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 6: say that because you know, when you look at it though, 572 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 6: overall though that that's the one thing this team really 573 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 6: really needed. You know, you have this outstanding player in 574 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb. You have a quarterback that's very capable of 575 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 6: getting a football, but you're just it's just really like 576 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 6: the old one one trick Boney situation. You know the 577 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 6: fact that they felt like that, hey, we have to 578 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 6: go and make a bold move to go get a guy, 579 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 6: and they did that. You know, I mean, that's bold 580 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 6: to go get a guy that people think, oh it 581 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 6: might be a little bit of a problem, might be 582 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 6: a locker room problem. 583 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: All these things like that. No, they said, no, we need. 584 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 6: It's it's so important to us to go get a 585 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: guy that can play outside. Now what do they do 586 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: in the draft? They might have addressed the situation though 587 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 6: with with Revel. And I'm saying this because I think 588 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 6: that Revel kind of falls into the group of. 589 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: Guys that I look at. 590 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 6: I look at how these these quarterbacks and the names 591 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 6: or the names are like we were talking about the 592 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 6: Cooper de Jeans, the Patrick Certant, Garrett Williams is a 593 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 6: guy that plays very high level there at Arizona. We 594 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 6: don't know a lot about him. Trent McDuffie, Derek Stingley. 595 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 6: These are guys that have to line up on a 596 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 6: weekly basis and cover these big time receivers. But the 597 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 6: every one of those guys that named are super talented guys. 598 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 6: The thing about it is, though this team needs a 599 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 6: wide receiver opposite lamp, and they went and got one. 600 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 6: I think they And the thing that's terrifying to me, 601 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: and I'll just say it one more time, is that 602 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 6: that he has a great campaign. But then you're not 603 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 6: allowed or you can't go and get him and keep 604 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 6: him as part of the offense, and get him going 605 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 6: with Dak and with CD and and helping helping this 606 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 6: team score. 607 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: Well just as much as this team needs a second 608 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: wide receiver opposite Lamb. We were watching last season when 609 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs went down. It ain't nice when you don't 610 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: have two, maybe three, really really good corners in this league, 611 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: because you will get beat up. Yeah, And I do 612 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 4: think like I agree with you. I think Rebel can 613 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: certainly make me think a little bit more about whether 614 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: I would say I can do without Bland. But man, 615 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: I still believe in today's NFL because of all the 616 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: good talented wide receivers there are out there, if you 617 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: don't have a bevy of really good cornerbacks, you are 618 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: gonna be screwed. And I feel like the Cowboys fat 619 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: they stole one with Bland to let him walk away 620 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: after after his first contract, I think would be a travesty. 621 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 7: I gotta start doing hancing. I know, I feel it. 622 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: I feel it. 623 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 7: But now it's my turn. Okay. I think one, we're 624 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 7: having this conversation way too soon for my liking fun conversation. 625 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 7: But I think there's still a lot more to see 626 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 7: of what actually developed throughout the season. I will say 627 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 7: I'm totally with Derek, and I think at the same time, 628 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 7: I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. I 629 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 7: think you can make a very very balid point for 630 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 7: both things, but with their own bland Although you say, 631 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 7: and you could technically find guys to be at corner, 632 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 7: but a guy like Blent is not easy to find. 633 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 7: Not only is he the only issue he's had was 634 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 7: that injury that he dealt with that kept him out, 635 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 7: and that was tough, and you got to look at 636 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 7: what the team and the defense can look like without 637 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 7: a guy like him. He's been such a solid guy, 638 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 7: not a diva. You know, some corners are a very 639 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 7: diva like ish, very constant and the type of guy 640 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 7: that you want in the locker room. So that is 641 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 7: not necessarily always something that you see all the time. 642 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 7: And he has again that record breaking season. You cannot 643 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 7: forget about that. Something that the Cowboys lacked last year 644 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 7: was the turnovers, the interceptions, and where was Blent, you know, 645 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 7: recovering and then he got a chance to come back 646 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 7: for a little bit, but it wasn't there. And I'm 647 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 7: expecting hopefully he gets back into that form shown he 648 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 7: can do it, and I think he is a game 649 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 7: changer for the defense. 650 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: I'll help you make your argument here. Ag. 651 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 6: Philadelphi Eagles were clearly a different team with Cooper Dejene 652 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: and then Quinn Mitchell. Their defense went from like one 653 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 6: of the worst when it came to playing past defense. 654 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 6: You know, if you look at the year before and 655 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 6: they and they moved on from Maddox and others. You know, 656 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 6: they just said, you know, we're not good enough. 657 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: Well they do. 658 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 6: They drafted to Mitchell and then also Degene and that 659 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 6: made a huge difference in their. 660 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowl run. 661 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 6: So that is if you're looking at that side of things, 662 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 6: you know, and I to be fair like, I say, 663 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 6: I just think that to me, with the investment that 664 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 6: you've made in your quarterback, you better find a way 665 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 6: to help him as much as possible because we're gonna 666 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: have to get to a point where, maybe two years 667 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: from now, where the evaluation is like and I'm just 668 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 6: saying this as. 669 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: The evaluation and it's not working. 670 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 15: You know. 671 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 6: We all go through life and we all make these 672 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 6: plans and stuff the things we're going to do, but 673 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 6: then in two years, three years from now, we're saying 674 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 6: it's not working. I want to do everything my power. 675 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 6: I've helped him potentially with the play caller. Now, I've 676 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: helped him with potentially new offensive line coaches, maybe some 677 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 6: new talent at right guard, maybe adding a receiver. But 678 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 6: the evaluation, at the end of the day, the most 679 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 6: expensive evaluation and the most important evaluation is who's playing quarterback. 680 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 6: And if I don't have George Pickens playing out there, 681 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 6: and it's Tolbert and others who have kind of just 682 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 6: every year, I've kind of said, I need this guy 683 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 6: to improve. I need to No, I know, I got 684 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 6: a war daddy out there playing right now. 685 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: And I agree with the concept that if Pickens is 686 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: not going to be here, you better replace him with 687 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: somebody who's talented. Because I agree with they're going to 688 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: need they need to talented wide receivers. I agree with 689 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: that part of it. I just think if you're faced 690 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: with I got to replace a top notch corner or 691 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: I have to replace a top notch receiver, I think 692 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: you have a better chance of replacing that corner. I mean, 693 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: I'm replacing that wide receiver. Then you do that corner 694 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: in one year's draft or in free agency. I just 695 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: think there are more of them. I just think there's 696 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: a better chance you can find that guy at wide 697 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: receiver position. 698 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 5: Then you can find that guy coin. 699 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: Now I go flip Miami two and I'll go get 700 00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Jalen Ram. 701 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: I think I think a corner. 702 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: I think he's Miami Dolphin. Yeah, I think, yes, he's 703 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 2: a miamiphin. 704 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: I think I can live without like a lockdown corner. 705 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: It'll be cool to have a lockdown corner. But like, 706 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: as long as your corner is not like that. 707 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: Plan ain't a lockdown I don't call Bland a lockdown corner. 708 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 4: Bland is a guy that can get turnovers and not 709 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: only that, he can get turn ups and tournament to points. 710 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: That's what I love about him, and that's the thing 711 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: that's uncommon about him. You go out and try to 712 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: find that guy that's a hard guy to. 713 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: Replace, even even if he's like a regular degular guy 714 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: that just doesn't get like, he doesn't like, he doesn't 715 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: get picked at all. Like even he's just a regular okay, cool, 716 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: just don't get because in real life, rebel may be that. 717 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: This year, I think highly of him as a prospect. 718 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: But you're stolen there. I think so. 719 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: But I'm thinking like year two or three rebels, that 720 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: one rebel may just be a solid, cool, good corner. 721 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm cool with a solid a solid, cool, good corner. 722 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: The Cowboys are gonna have to play against teams that 723 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: put points on the board, regardless of who you got 724 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: lined up at corner, because we got corners and and 725 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: we have Trevon di is called eleven picks in one year, 726 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: and Bland can lead the league and pick six and 727 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: all that, and teams will still find a way to 728 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: put thirty and forty on you. I think you need 729 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: firepower to match that. That's just my own take. 730 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna take our final break. We will 731 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 5: come back. 732 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 4: We got some more observations, maybe we get to them, 733 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: maybe we find something else in the break we want 734 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: to talk about. 735 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 5: We'll be back Gallaway Radio. 736 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 15: If you can't be at the stadium, there's no better 737 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 15: way to watch your Cowboys than on an lg O 738 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 15: lead EVO TV. 739 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: That's because everything. 740 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: You see is more lifelike, every play. 741 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: Every hit. 742 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 15: I mean, you might just will be on the sidelines, 743 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 15: that's how clear it is. 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We're not 796 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 5: gonna go there, not gonna go there. Now we're just 797 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 5: talking about family. It's not my family. Got a lot 798 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 5: of kids in the building. 799 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 4: Today is summer camp's rolling through doing tours, so keep 800 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: saying welcome kids in the building. 801 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 5: Thanks, thank you for coming to the media, and enjoy 802 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 5: your summer camp. 803 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 4: Let's talk about a couple of other observations that we 804 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: had from OTA's Let's go on the field. Elie Cooker, Uh, 805 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 4: he had he left practice during warm ups. Actually I 806 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: was adving supposedly reports he was having backspasms. 807 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 5: Nothing serious that that I've. 808 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 4: Heard, but that being said, I thought the interesting thing 809 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 4: was Elijah Clark is a name that I started seeing 810 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 4: him get some work in previous weeks. He got more 811 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: work yesterday to hook her out. Even Janya Thomas, a safety, 812 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 4: they had him kind of working in the slot a 813 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 4: little bit yesterday. Talk to me first about Elijah Clark. 814 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: What have you seen from him? What kind of Scotty 815 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 4: report can you give on him? Because he seems to 816 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: be a guy that has an undrafted, drafted free agent 817 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: is at least he's getting some opportunities. 818 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: Versatile player, tackler, very active in the run game, you know, 819 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: kind of long lines up everywhere, deep strong nickel. I 820 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: don't know if he's gonna have a whole bunch of 821 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 3: nickel in the league, but as Syracuse they did it. 822 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: Pretty rangy player active, you know, I wouldn't put him 823 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: at a one high rangey guy, but he could be 824 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: like a two high rangey type guy. 825 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a guy that you talk to people 826 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 6: in the organization usually when they go after these guys, 827 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 6: usually when it's you know, when when you can this 828 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 6: is one of those cases you can actually follow the 829 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 6: money a little bit. But here is one of the 830 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 6: guys that got one of the larger UH signing bonuses, 831 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 6: if you want to say, of the rookie undrafted guys. 832 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 6: And so that told me that he's somewhere between the 833 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 6: fifth and sixth round on their board what they were 834 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 6: able to do. So here they are picking off guys 835 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 6: that are on their draft board. I think Vatch gave 836 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 6: you the right thumbnail about this kiddy. It looks kind 837 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 6: of like a corner he six one eight the way 838 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 6: he's built. 839 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: UH. But he is one of. 840 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 6: Those guys that he does play downhill, he does tackle well. 841 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 6: I think he saw the field pretty well. You suck 842 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 6: out the range and what his ability Matti RIFLEU is 843 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 6: playing a little more single high with some of the stuff. 844 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 6: He'll play the two, but the single high, and you 845 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 6: could do that with this guy. So I don't know 846 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 6: how much you want to put him in coverage stuff 847 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 6: underneath the nickel corner kind of slot player. I don't 848 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 6: think that's his cup of tea. But you talk about 849 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 6: a guy that's physical downhill and willing to throw his 850 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 6: body in there and make tackles. But he evidently he's 851 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 6: a smart guy too, because this is not the first 852 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 6: time that we've seen him get work with these with 853 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 6: the first defense one of the first times the observations 854 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 6: that we've been able to make in camp, he was 855 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 6: kind of working in So this tells me they liked 856 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 6: this kid, sat on their board at a pretty high 857 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 6: spot to be drafted, didn't get it done. They went 858 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 6: and got him. Probably a smart kid. They're now putting 859 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 6: him in there and seeing how much he could really learn. 860 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 6: Throw a lot of things at him, and then when 861 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 6: they get to camp, you could really see what kind 862 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 6: of player you have in him. 863 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 7: But you can start just by looking at practice and 864 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 7: seeing that and the fact that he's been given in 865 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 7: those opportunities, that's already telling enough that that's someone okay, 866 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 7: they really really like, because you don't tend to see, 867 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 7: at least from my experience, you don't see that a lot, 868 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 7: a whole lot during this time of the year until 869 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 7: you get maybe to training camp and you see more 870 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 7: of those battles on the second team and all that. 871 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 7: But again, for someone that's undrafted, which you know it's 872 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 7: not that you're taking somebody else's spot that's ahead of 873 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 7: you quote unquote, that tells you a lot that he's 874 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 7: putting in the work, and I would expect and think 875 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 7: that it also goes to what they're doing in the classroom, 876 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 7: what they're studying in those in those meeting rooms that 877 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 7: it's from the head being smart, and those also when 878 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 7: they're like that in the class I'm rambling here what 879 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 7: I'm trying to say. When when the mind is there 880 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 7: and you're putting in the textbook work, it creates more 881 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 7: opportunities for you on the field. So it again, it's 882 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 7: just the two on two and it's a guy that 883 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 7: we're definitely going to be keeping an eye on. 884 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 6: The one interesting one though, I think you need to 885 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 6: look at though, is with we mentioned Parsons earlier in 886 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 6: the broadcast, donovand Azeraku has been playing a little bit 887 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 6: of Michael Parson's role at practice, playing at that linebacker, 888 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 6: the rush guy. 889 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: Then the good time. 890 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 6: I'm sorry about if you have a but yeah, I 891 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 6: think that to me, I always look and see where 892 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 6: guys are lining up where we're playing. You know, watch 893 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 6: and I were doing our show last night. They're doing 894 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 6: all Right podcasts and we were talking about uh with 895 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 6: with Elam and like it seems like that every practice, 896 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 6: you know that we've been able to watch Elam's making place. 897 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 6: Well then okay, well what's where's guy's lining up now? 898 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 6: Oh Rookie as Araku? Oh wait no, Michael Parsons, Oh wait, 899 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 6: he's standing up always playing outside as a rusher. They're 900 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 6: kind of seeing if he could take those those Michael 901 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 6: Parsons type snaps. And maybe if you have a situation 902 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 6: where Micah does get tired or it has to come 903 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 6: off the field, that maybe as Araku in their mind, 904 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 6: is going to be a guy that they could plug 905 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 6: in and play those spots real quick. 906 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: I also wanted to mention as a part of conversation 907 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 4: with having with a lot of regarding Elijah Clark, this 908 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: often happens sometimes when you get a new coordinator in, 909 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 4: they have different schemes, and so you'll start to notice 910 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 4: that some guys that may have been a part of. 911 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 5: The previous regime, uh, maybe they may not have. 912 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 4: Necessarily the particular skill set that the new coordinator would want. 913 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 4: What do you know, guys know about how let's say 914 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 4: Zimmer chooses to use safeties versus maybe how flu flus 915 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: uses safeties, and maybe if there are any differences that 916 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: we should be paying attention to as we're watching these 917 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: safeties during training. 918 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of single high stuff with with Flus, 919 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 6: you know, and you know he you know, he comes 920 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 6: from that. Originally he was with the Rob Ryan administration 921 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 6: and then he's transitioned into the Rod Marinelli who would 922 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 6: play a lot of cover too. You know that that 923 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 6: we always talk about the Tampa two stuff. But you 924 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 6: see if but if you look at the metrics, he's 925 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 6: a single high guy, is what he is. 926 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: So he's talking about Flu. 927 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's he's he's at the at the at 928 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 6: the Bears, they were doing a lot more single high 929 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 6: stuff there, but you know it was it was like say, 930 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 6: with Zimmer, it was a lot of just you know, 931 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 6: a lot of that where he was playing that's a 932 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 6: single high stuff and then he was kind of adjusting 933 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 6: for what he had to do. 934 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 5: So similar from the safe foot they're at similar. 935 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 6: But more I think more even more with Flus. I 936 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 6: think more with Flu. Flus is a ton of zone 937 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 6: defense stuff, where Zimmer was more a lot man. 938 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: Zim wanted to do everything. 939 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zim wanted to do everything. 940 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: This is going to hyper focus on. 941 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 6: Exactly exactly and see I think guys too, like I 942 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 6: want to say this, I think that a guy like 943 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 6: Janier Thomas gets a fresh breath of air with a 944 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 6: new coaching staff. I remember talking to Mike Zimmer about 945 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 6: this last year in training camp and asking and asking 946 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 6: him about how he liked Donovan Wilson and Hooker and 947 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 6: all that he was. He was really really on board 948 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 6: with both players. But then we come to we have 949 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 6: a change in the coaching staff, and now you see, 950 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 6: you know what happens. We get tender offers, we get 951 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 6: contract offers, you get Thomas signed, you get Bell signed. 952 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 6: That's telling me that Fluc and these guys have coming 953 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 6: in and making an influence that way, that they like 954 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 6: what they've seen with these two guys, and so now 955 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 6: they're gonna get more of an opportunity. This might not 956 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 6: bode well for guy like Sam Williams, who is also 957 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 6: in that situation. He's trying to get healthy, but now 958 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 6: his sponsors are kind of out the door right here, 959 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 6: So you know, it's there's a lot going on here. 960 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 6: You know, when it comes to coaching staff, sometimes guys go, 961 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 6: I got a new chance, and the other guys go, damn, 962 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 6: my guy's gone. 963 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: Some guys can't get hurt like some guys do not 964 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: have the luxury to get hurt. Like there are some 965 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: veterans to where they feel like, if Okay, I leave 966 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 3: and I come back, I'll still be fine. There's a 967 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 3: lot of young safeties in this room or in that 968 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 3: safety room that are just waiting for an opportunity, and 969 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 3: I think if they get on the field, I think 970 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 3: it's going to be really hard for you to get 971 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 3: them off the field. There's a lot of guys in 972 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 3: their linebacker room that are fighting for their life, competing 973 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 3: and competing, competing. So if you're like an old veteran 974 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 3: life back Clark, if the moon and Clark, you've been 975 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 3: in this team for a long. 976 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: Time, interception yesterday. 977 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got some guys that been drafted last year, 978 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 3: drafted this year, some. 979 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 2: Sign sign guys, two guys. 980 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 3: Some of y'all can't afford to miss a week here, 981 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 3: a week there. You gotta stay healthy. 982 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's no veteran day off this year. 983 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 5: That's easy for you to say. 984 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 4: Those veterans like I need a day off every once, 985 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: not this year, not this year. 986 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 6: On the way, there's something I would like to see though, 987 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 6: the training cramp, training camp practices something like that. Training 988 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 6: camp practices, you know, I'm interested to see how those 989 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 6: are going to go. But I really do want to 990 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 6: see a preseason though more veteran players play. I would 991 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 6: like to see more of an how is this going 992 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 6: to work? 993 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 7: How is this going to you have to I don't 994 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 7: see how you don't with what you got waiting for 995 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 7: you on week Once. 996 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 4: Didn't it made me see, Yeah, that's a tough one. 997 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: I just do. 998 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 4: I do think obviously this year they're starting on Thursday night, 999 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 4: opening the season against the defending champs. I do think 1000 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 4: that that I will be interested to see if they 1001 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 4: look at preseason now. Part of it might just be 1002 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 4: the coach has a different philosophy, right, we got a 1003 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 4: new coach, but I would I would love to see 1004 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 4: how I want to see how they address that and 1005 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 4: if they will and at least give him a few 1006 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 4: reps veterans, because these last couple of years it's been 1007 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 4: like literally they just don't play. 1008 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 6: I do not I do not have any any thoughts that, like, 1009 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 6: you know, to me, I look at like I was 1010 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 6: with Andy Reid and what he does in Kansas City, 1011 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 6: and obviously they've had success, so they have pat Mahomes 1012 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 6: and a lot of other things going for him there. 1013 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 6: But there's some teams that do that absolutely take preseason 1014 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 6: seriously in that way and get evaluations. And then there's 1015 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 6: some teams like the Rams, that guy does not care 1016 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 6: about what's going on in preseason. But I think, I 1017 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 6: think Dallas me personally, this is being selfish. I want 1018 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 6: to see this offensive line play together. I want to 1019 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 6: see him have a little six. I want to see 1020 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 6: if Miles Sanders really can. In the last couple of 1021 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 6: times we've had media availability, Miles Sanders has come out 1022 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 6: as a guy that's got some juice to his game. 1023 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 6: I'd love to see him run the ball a little bit, 1024 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 6: you know, and see if, in fact that we get 1025 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 6: some some block and it's protection and and go that 1026 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 6: route and kind of have a little positivity going into 1027 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 6: that Thursday night game. 1028 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, between all the new coaches and all the new players, 1029 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: I almost think you have to in order to just 1030 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 4: get them prepared for the upcoming season. 1031 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 5: It's one thing. 1032 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: We have a veteran team that's pretty much stayed together 1033 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 4: for a year, two years, three years, whatever the case 1034 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 4: might be. But this team feels like there's so much 1035 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 4: newness that I just feel like it might be necessary. 1036 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 6: I think some of the slow starts that they've had 1037 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 6: offensively have been because they don't play preseason games. 1038 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: That's just me, all right. 1039 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys joining us. That's a wrap. We'll 1040 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 5: be back next week. 1041 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 4: We'll wrap this thing up for this offseason and then 1042 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 4: start getting you guys ready for training camp. Till then, 1043 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 4: for Box Lombardi Brian brought us in Ambergarci. I'm Derek Eagleton. 1044 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 4: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 1045 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 4: Com Radio. 1046 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1047 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.