WEBVTT - Draft Show_1_14.mp3 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:09.080 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.880 for inseter news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:17.439 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.720 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:28.480 Today is January fourteenth, twenty twenty five, and we are officially. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.520 One hundred days away. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.280 From the twenty twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.239 The countdown begins and continues fast and furious from this 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.520 point forward. As we welcome you into the Draft Show 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.879 presented by Miller Lte the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.680 We've got Zach Wolchuck Brian brought us, Nick Harris, Tommy Yarish. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:48.400 I'm Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.000 As we welcome you in, We've also got breaking news 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:55.880 from yesterday after the show was recorded. Within minutes of 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.920 the show being recorded, then the news finally broke that 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.480 Mike McCarthy is out as Dallas Cowboys head coach. I 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.840 even got a call from Zach Walchuk. You We're like 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.640 in the car on your way back to the radio station. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.440 What just happened? Is this real? Is this real? Well? 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:11.920 Is this real? You confirm? This is this? 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.679 What's happening. It was indeed real and it did indeed happen. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.800 So where does that leave us, Brian whenever it comes 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.080 to the NFL draft, how much does that affect things 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.319 now that McCarthy is no longer expected to be the 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:24.759 head coach. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.320 Yeah, they've Now you turn into the mode of okay, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.720 you have an idea maybe who the next coach will be, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.480 you know, and as a staff, then you have to 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:41.120 go back and then look at these players that I'm 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.000 not saying rejected, but maybe when the staff new staff 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.280 comes in, you now have to turn around and then 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.400 reevaluate players that you put like on a hold list. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.320 And so they won't be able to do anything until 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.760 they figure out there the scheme with the coach. So 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.360 the you know, now if the Jones family and Will 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:08.880 wants to try and hire somebody similar scheme wise, you 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.919 know where before three three four, they they can kind 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.560 of adapt to that. They have an idea of you know, 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.400 the guys that maybe are on their list, like, okay, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.679 we have to be ready for this. But what they're 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.079 going to do is they have a bunch of players 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.000 that they put what they call on hold, and so 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.080 now you have to go back, and they they give 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.480 these players a grade, say they call them a nine, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.880 and so they give them a grade of a nine, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.120 and then all of a sudden, they can go back 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.400 and look at all they can pull. Now, with the 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.920 way computers are, you can pull all your nine grades 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.840 and then say, okay, to any of these guys fit 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.639 into the new scheme that we're going to run, or 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.679 is it or there's a scheme similar to what we're 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.440 going to run and we're not going to need. But 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.920 they'll go back and they'll pull all those players. And 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.120 once they pull all those players, then they can go 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.560 back and determine they don't completely get rid of players. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.160 They put them in that holding area and then you know, 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.240 once they know that, okay, here's our scheme. Let's look 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.080 at all our players. This fits. Let's bring guys back. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.760 So that's what they're going to be working on right now, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.440 is they're going to try and get an idea of 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.799 what direction they're going to go. The front office will say, hey, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.120 here we are, this is likely who the guys we're 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.720 talking to. We have to be ready for this scheme, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.639 this scheme and this scheme with these three guys, and 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.880 so you know, that just puts the scouts really on 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.360 hold right now. They continue to do the stuff getting 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.720 ready for the bowl games and stuff, but they just 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.000 have to know now that they're going to have to 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:44.480 potentially go and pull those nine players, those nine graded players, 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.840 and bring them back to life for potential evaluation going forward. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.800 I would imagine it makes it more extensive too, because 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.480 if you have a head coach in place, you have 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.320 a system in place, Yeah, and you look at a player, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:57.480 you can say, oh, that's not a. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:58.280 Guy for us. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.160 That's not Yeah, it could be a guy where like, hey, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.680 that's a good player, but he's not a guy for us. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.720 Now you look at that player even more because you 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.960 don't know who the head coaches got. Yeah, circle back 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.160 on that guy. So I would imagine there's more work. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.160 There there, you know. I I've always thought that there 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.720 was a way that that these players if they're not 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.680 a guy. For example, the Steelers have had three head 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.160 coaches in the last you know, if you look at 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.840 Chuck Knowle's history Steels, Yeah, Is Cower and Tomlin they've had, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.920 but they've had the same scheme throughout, so their scouts 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.719 know exactly the type of players. So that doesn't change 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.080 for them. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:31.720 Baltimore. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.360 Baltimore is another one. Yeah, exactly. So see that's where 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.760 you're at. Uh. You know, it's not that they reject players. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.520 They'll do the grades. If they go to a school 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.479 and they've got ten players at Ohio State, they will 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.520 evaluate all ten players. It's not like, well wait a minute, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.520 this guy doesn't fit in our scheme and I'm not 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.000 gonna do him. I'm just gonna immediately reject him. So 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.880 they have grades on these guys or information on these guys. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.360 But like I said, they give them a knot for 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.600 us grade, which you know could be like say it 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.480 could be a nine, you still a number. Say it's 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.920 a nine, and that means not for us, somebody else. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.919 That's somebody else. Well, now you now you have to 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.440 go pull those guys. You just have to sort them 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.480 all out and say, Okay, who are all the nine 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.400 guys that fit? Because what happens is you get coaches 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.560 that are coming here. They're gonna like we play with 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.560 press corners, we want length, or we want we are 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.560 a coach. No, we play a lot of off coverage. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.479 We don't need length, we need you know, we need 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.440 this or you know especial. Hey, this team plays with 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.640 this scheme, plays with a defensive plays with a nose 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.440 tackle big nose. They no, no, we don't need a 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.240 big nose. We need more threes. That's where they're at 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.640 right now. They're gonna have to determine which of these 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.479 guys now that when they get to the evaluation side 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.279 of it, like and they'll be and maybe there'll not 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.760 be a ton of guys they bring back, but there'll 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.680 be some guys that they that they have in that 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.560 holding area. And you know, depending on scheme, they could 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.320 very well bring back for evaluation. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.000 When would you say is the last day that they 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.320 need to make a hire before it just becomes too 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.520 much work before the draft to to go back and. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.200 Look at everybody. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.160 You know, I that's scouts are really used to adapting 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.960 to whatever they have to do, you know. And I 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.200 say that is I can't give you a specific date. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.320 I think that what you want to be able to do, though, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.599 is you know, we've we've seen this go to like 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.839 All Star Games. We've seen like coaches you know, get changed, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.440 and all of a sudden we're at the Senior Bowl 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.159 and now they're having to answer ask or answer questions 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.960 about interviews and stuff. And the Senior Bowl is a 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.760 terrible place to go if you have to hire a coach. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.280 I think that's going to be the reality. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.120 Well, and that's that's what came in my mind, was 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:46.800 like what you like it done by the Senior Bowl. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.359 Well, what happens then is like, you know, these guys 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.599 here they are trying to evaluate players, and then they're 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.200 standing there and then everybody who's out of a gig, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.760 the Chicago Bear guys all, you know, everybody, the Jet guys, 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.760 everybody that's out of a gig right now, and some 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.120 coach just maybe trying to get back, are going up 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.080 to general managers sitting in the stands. Hey, I'm Brian 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.800 brought us. Oh yeah, hi Brian, Yeah, oh yeah, Well 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.480 hey you know if you need and you know, this 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.440 is where I'm at. Da da da da da. And 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.320 now you you can't get away from that. You're you're 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:19.120 spending the majority of your evaluation period shaking hands with 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.320 Brian Broadest and others that are trying to find jobs 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.880 instead of scouting your instead of scouting yeah, instead of yeah, 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.160 you're you're now having to and maybe you could set 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.960 some things up at your hotel room. You get a suite, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.360 you set some things up and like meetings with this guy. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.320 I mean, but if but these general managers there, if 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.040 somebody's hunting a job, the Senior Bowl is a terrible 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.520 place to I mean because you can't evaluate. But if 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.640 you set things up and do it the right way, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.320 but you can get inundated with guys and gals hunting 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.440 jobs and not be able to watch practice and not 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.640 know what's going on, like what happened today? Well yeah, okay, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.640 well Cat, I spent spent the first practice today watching 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.040 it talking to people about jobs. You know, it could 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:06.400 be a very difficult thing to have. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.200 To it's the LinkedIn Senior Bowl, but it really is. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.560 I mean, you know, if you're if you're Jerry Jones 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.400 and he does sit in the crowd, yeah, it doesn't 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.720 mean Jerry Jones is like every other scout that's there 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.120 up in the stands with his guys and gals up there, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.440 and they're sitting up there watching and you know, not 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.880 to say that. Everybody goes, you know, hiking up there 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.080 and sees Jerry Jones. But if you run into Jerry Jones, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.520 you're going to take an opportunity to shake his hand. Yeah, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.840 you know, that's kind of how this thing works, especially 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:34.880 if you're looking for a job. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.840 So you talked about the adjusting that scouts would have 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.280 to do. Yeah, I mean, there's no way that I 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.280 didn't answer the next question worth a damn, and I'm 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.040 sorry you did your good But you said you said the. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.880 Senior Bowl would be a significant portion. So that's an answer. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.240 Yeah, But the way they have to adjust, they're gonna 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.880 have to adjust on the fly whatever the draft process brings, 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.600 yether it's twenty twenty five or twenty twenty four, whether 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.559 you have a head coach or whether you don't. But 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.760 there's just a significant and jump in that direction. And Tommy, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.439 I'll allude this to you with what's the biggest adjustment 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.079 now not having those head coaches to kind of lean 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.400 back on and continue to have those conversations. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.559 Well, I think it's kind of what Brian was alluding 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.040 to in terms of when now you've got to figure 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.960 out what your scheme's going to look like. And the 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.559 scheme has so much to do with what you want 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.160 to do in the draft and especially what you want 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:22.880 to do in free agency. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.160 We were talking about well in position coaches too exactly. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.400 And we were talking about this yesterday on our emergency 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.480 podcast after they had announced the decision to move on 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:31.520 from Mike McCarthy. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:32.240 Is. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.920 Well, now you've got to find alignment from your front office, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.800 to your coaching staff, to your roster. And I think 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.840 that that's maybe part of the shortcomings with Mike McCarthy's 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.959 time in Dallas is at times, especially in this twenty 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.920 twenty four season, there was an alignment between all three 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.240 because there were certain pieces on the roster that Mike 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.760 felt like maybe he didn't have control over, and that 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.880 just can't happen if the Cowboys want to be serious 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.840 playoff contenders. So when it comes to this draft, especially 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.880 when you have a team that's been kind of leaning 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.719 in what they want to do in free agency and 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.360 leaning in how they want to spend their money in 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.400 the cap, sometimes you've got to build through the draft, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.800 and so it's important to have you know an idea 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.320 of what you're looking for when that Senior Bowl comes around, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.160 because then even if you are having to shake hands 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.120 and kiss babies at that point in time, like it's 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.280 a job interview, at least you can be like you 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.640 can have an idea of what you're looking for instead 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.640 of Okay, we're gonna look at those nine guys and 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:21.439 kind of re evaluate. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.040 Yeah, see, this is too where you go real quick 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.360 if I could Zach, this is where you know, having 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.200 like dan Quinn in place gets you dron Blant, right, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.640 you know, having that where dan Quinn was a roll 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.880 up his sleeves and go shoulder to shoulder with the 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.320 scouts and go out and hit workouts and things like that. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.920 You know, I mean they didn't hit on all the guys. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.680 I mean the Kentucky kids were an Apple absolute disaster. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.520 Joseph, Yeah, Banna. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.840 And oh yeah they had they've had some problems there 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.760 and so yeah, but that's going to happen along the way. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.200 But they did. You know, you're not going to be 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.680 able to you you have an idea. When you have 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.319 dan Quinn and Joe Witt and others in the building, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.439 you're able to go and look at Deron Bland at 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.880 Fresno and kind of figure out, Okay, this guy, this 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:02.760 guy that fits for. 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.520 Us is in Brian. Since you've been around it, run 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.920 under aft yourself and have been around different organizations and 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.800 see how they do it is that more important here 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:15.559 in Dallas, that continuity and the communication. It seems like 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.760 the catball dry or so than any other team might 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.480 like that with their coaching staff, them being involved, them saying, hey, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.120 this is what I want a player, this is what 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.880 I'd like to do here, Whereas I mean maybe in 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.560 Green Bay maybe that was something with Mike McCarthy wasn't 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:30.400 used to that in Greenland. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:31.040 Oh no, he. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.480 Comes to Dallas. Now, Will mcclay's like, hey, what do 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:34.280 you think you know? 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:35.120 And this is new. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.880 This is kind of a learning and just not every 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.200 team operates that way, but for the Cowboys might be 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.640 more important than the other thirty one teams to get 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.319 that coaching staff in place so they can get that 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.680 communication with the scouts on what they want, what they're 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:46.200 looking for. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.120 Yeah, these head coaches, Mike McCarthy did not when he 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.199 walked through the door in Dallas. He was like, whoa, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.640 I get to have a say in this. Teddy Thompson, 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.320 you know, they talked to the coaches and stuff like that, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.120 but not to the extent that a lot of teams do. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.040 And so yeah, it's it's really this This organization thrives 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:08.320 on communication as far as having opinions, you know. I 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.800 mean that's why I think some of the reasons why 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.679 it takes him so long to make a decision, because 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.080 they do solicit opinions, you know, and and that can 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.760 kind of slow you down a little bit. But you know, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.120 having having that the head coach every every you know, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.720 when I worked in the front the scouting department here, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:31.160 whether you're Dave Campbo or Chan Gaily or Bill Parcells, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.320 it doesn't matter. If you want to take an active 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.280 role in personnel, the Joneses will allow you to do that. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.880 As a head coach, I thought Jason Garrett was an 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.720 outstanding evaluator. I think a lot of it had to 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.199 do with sitting with his dad every day. Yeah, Jim 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.320 at times was very very good. But I think that 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.000 there's some coaches that have an eye for this and 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.760 there's sums that are not. John Gruden is one of 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.839 my best friends. John Gruden is a terrible evaluator. I mean, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.640 if he if he were to be the head coach here, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.400 I would my suggestion would be, don't let John help 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.240 you pick the players, you know. But Johnson. John's a 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.520 good football coach. But there's certain guys that have the 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.240 ability to evaluate from that coaching position. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.480 So with McCarthy moving on, Nick, how does that affect 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.880 Will McClay now, Because whether it was their relationship or 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.520 the contract that in question moving forward, there was always 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:28.680 a little question mark around will McClay following this year 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.800 in his future in Dallas? Does this affect it one 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.360 way or the other at all? 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:33.559 I don't think necessarily. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:33.679 No. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.480 There's not a ton of GM openings this cycle, and 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.160 even with the ones that are open, mcclay's name hasn't 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.319 been thrown around, so I think McClay was staying Regardless, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.080 I think the long term of McLay is now probably 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.800 a bigger question than the short term and how much 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.439 say does he have in the next choice And if 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.679 he's a big voice in that room, then that probably 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.000 tells you the long term security of him here in Dallas. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.960 But if they bring in a guy and it's like, hey, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.320 he will introduce you here to Doug Peterson or whoever, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.760 then I think that kind of tells you long term 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.520 kind of what the vision is as far as Will 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.200 mcclay's role not only in this building but front office 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.760 specifically when it comes to making decisions. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.920 No, that's interesting because when you look at the draft process, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.960 he's kind of the head honcho. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.720 Right, he does it. He's done a damn good job. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.200 And you know, and we always talk about the triangle. 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.080 The jones is being on top of the triangle, the 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.440 scout's being on one point, and then the coaches on 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.680 the other point, and Will is in the middle, in 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.560 the middle of the storm, and he does a really 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.320 good job of navigating that. These coaches get mad at 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.720 the scouts, the scouts get mad at the Joneses, the 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.760 Joneses are mad at the coaches. Will does a really 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.000 good job of making sure that that being mad stays 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.760 in that room and it doesn't go outside that room. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.400 He's done an excellent job of putting together these boards 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.600 and you have to give him a lot of credit 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.200 because there were some times where you know, and I 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.240 love Tom Saskowski and you know, Jeff Ireland I worked 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.400 with here, and you know, those guys very qualified guys. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.680 But when you're not able to control all three parties, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.400 you're not going to have much success here. This is 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.280 just the way that they operates. It's unique to any 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.200 other organization you'll ever be in, and ever work in. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.000 So Mike McCarthy and the ripple effects will be felt 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.600 until they fill in a potential suitor. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.280 Yeah, but the scouts, the scouts will be ready to go. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.840 They've got their nine guys what I'm calling them nine guys, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.240 the guys that they need to potentially bring back. And 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.920 you know, like I say, the Joneses, Steven will be 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.080 communicating to Will, Hey, these are the coaches we're looking at. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.120 And then okay, now it turns into let's meet about 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.720 these schemes. You know, what are these coaches? What are 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.320 they going to like? And then you kind of try 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.080 and get ahead of the game that way. All right, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.200 let's take our first break. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.760 When we come back, I want to do a little 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.080 accountability session. I want to talk about the twenty twenty 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.680 four draft. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.240 So what did you get right? 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.600 So we'll go good, we got good? 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:58.840 It was all wrong? 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.560 And then what to do is bad in terms of 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.520 your draft evaluation last year? And then if you have 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.280 a comparison of this year's draft class, we could share 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.000 that as well, kind of similar prospects in the same area. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.480 When we come back, more talking cowboys. Right after this, here. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.840 We go Tyler from Dude perfect. Here, big news. 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