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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for inseter news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now

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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: Today is January fourteenth, twenty twenty five, and we are officially.

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Speaker 3: One hundred days away.

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Speaker 2: From the twenty twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: The countdown begins and continues fast and furious from this

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Speaker 2: point forward. As we welcome you into the Draft Show

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Speaker 2: We've got Zach Wolchuck Brian brought us, Nick Harris, Tommy Yarish.

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Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: As we welcome you in, We've also got breaking news

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Speaker 2: from yesterday after the show was recorded. Within minutes of

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Speaker 2: the show being recorded, then the news finally broke that

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy is out as Dallas Cowboys head coach. I

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Speaker 2: even got a call from Zach Walchuk. You We're like

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Speaker 2: in the car on your way back to the radio station.

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Speaker 3: What just happened? Is this real? Is this real? Well?

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Speaker 3: Is this real? You confirm? This is this?

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Speaker 2: What's happening. It was indeed real and it did indeed happen.

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Speaker 2: So where does that leave us, Brian whenever it comes

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Speaker 2: to the NFL draft, how much does that affect things

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Speaker 2: now that McCarthy is no longer expected to be the

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Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've Now you turn into the mode of okay,

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Speaker 3: you have an idea maybe who the next coach will be,

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Speaker 3: you know, and as a staff, then you have to

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Speaker 3: go back and then look at these players that I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying rejected, but maybe when the staff new staff

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Speaker 3: reevaluate players that you put like on a hold list.

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Speaker 3: And so they won't be able to do anything until

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Speaker 3: they figure out there the scheme with the coach. So

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Speaker 3: the you know, now if the Jones family and Will

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Speaker 3: wants to try and hire somebody similar scheme wise, you

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Speaker 3: know where before three three four, they they can kind

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Speaker 3: of adapt to that. They have an idea of you know,

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Speaker 3: the guys that maybe are on their list, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: we have to be ready for this. But what they're

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Speaker 3: that they put what they call on hold, and so

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Speaker 3: now you have to go back, and they they give

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Speaker 3: these players a grade, say they call them a nine,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, they can go back

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Speaker 3: and look at all they can pull. Now, with the

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Speaker 3: they'll go back and they'll pull all those players. And

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Speaker 3: once they pull all those players, then they can go

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Speaker 3: They put them in that holding area and then you know,

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Speaker 3: once they know that, okay, here's our scheme. Let's look

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Speaker 3: So that's what they're going to be working on right now,

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Speaker 3: so you know, that just puts the scouts really on

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Speaker 5: I would imagine it makes it more extensive too, because

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Speaker 5: if you have a head coach in place, you have

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Speaker 3: There there, you know. I I've always thought that there

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Speaker 3: They'll do the grades. If they go to a school

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Speaker 3: But like I said, they give them a knot for

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Speaker 3: big nose. We need more threes. That's where they're at

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Speaker 5: When would you say is the last day that they

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Speaker 5: need to make a hire before it just becomes too

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Speaker 6: Look at everybody.

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Speaker 3: You know, I that's scouts are really used to adapting

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Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the reality.

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's that's what came in my mind, was

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Speaker 3: Well, what happens then is like, you know, these guys

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Speaker 3: to general managers sitting in the stands. Hey, I'm Brian

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Speaker 3: brought us. Oh yeah, hi Brian, Yeah, oh yeah, Well

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Speaker 3: hey you know if you need and you know, this

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Speaker 3: now you you can't get away from that. You're you're

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Speaker 3: Brian Broadest and others that are trying to find jobs

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Speaker 3: instead of scouting your instead of scouting yeah, instead of yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're you're now having to and maybe you could set

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Speaker 3: I mean, but if but these general managers there, if

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Speaker 3: somebody's hunting a job, the Senior Bowl is a terrible

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Speaker 3: know what's going on, like what happened today? Well yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: well Cat, I spent spent the first practice today watching

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Speaker 4: To it's the LinkedIn Senior Bowl, but it really is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if you're if you're Jerry Jones

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Speaker 3: mean Jerry Jones is like every other scout that's there

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Speaker 3: to say that. Everybody goes, you know, hiking up there

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Speaker 3: and sees Jerry Jones. But if you run into Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: you're going to take an opportunity to shake his hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's kind of how this thing works, especially

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Speaker 2: So you talked about the adjusting that scouts would have

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Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, I mean, there's no way that I

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Speaker 2: sorry you did your good But you said you said the.

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Speaker 4: Senior Bowl would be a significant portion. So that's an answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the way they have to adjust, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to adjust on the fly whatever the draft process brings,

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Speaker 2: yether it's twenty twenty five or twenty twenty four, whether

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Speaker 2: there's just a significant and jump in that direction. And Tommy,

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Speaker 2: I'll allude this to you with what's the biggest adjustment

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Speaker 2: now not having those head coaches to kind of lean

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's kind of what Brian was alluding

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Speaker 7: to in terms of when now you've got to figure

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Speaker 7: out what your scheme's going to look like. And the

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Speaker 7: scheme has so much to do with what you want

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Speaker 7: to do in the draft and especially what you want

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Speaker 7: to do in free agency.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about well in position coaches too exactly.

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Speaker 7: And we were talking about this yesterday on our emergency

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Speaker 7: podcast after they had announced the decision to move on

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Speaker 7: from Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 8: Is.

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Speaker 7: Well, now you've got to find alignment from your front office,

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Speaker 7: to your coaching staff, to your roster. And I think

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Speaker 7: that that's maybe part of the shortcomings with Mike McCarthy's

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Speaker 7: time in Dallas is at times, especially in this twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty four season, there was an alignment between all three

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Speaker 7: because there were certain pieces on the roster that Mike

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Speaker 7: felt like maybe he didn't have control over, and that

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Speaker 7: just can't happen if the Cowboys want to be serious

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Speaker 7: playoff contenders. So when it comes to this draft, especially

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Speaker 7: when you have a team that's been kind of leaning

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Speaker 7: leaning in how they want to spend their money in

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Speaker 7: the cap, sometimes you've got to build through the draft,

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Speaker 7: and so it's important to have you know an idea

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Speaker 7: of what you're looking for when that Senior Bowl comes around,

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Speaker 7: because then even if you are having to shake hands

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Speaker 2: So with McCarthy moving on, Nick, how does that affect

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Speaker 3: Right, he does it. He's done a damn good job.

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Speaker 3: So what did you get right?

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Speaker 6: Was like, oh, I'm gonna end up being wrong here,

438
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,199
Speaker 6: aren't I.

439
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 5: Because it just makes sense him and Sean pay and

440
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 5: that's a that's a good marriage and it worked out.

441
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 5: So Bo Nicks, that's probably my first wrong. You want

442
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 5: me to go all the way through here, Uh.

443
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, do your two wrongs and then we'll come back around.

444
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 6: I'll go wrong, right, Okay, Okay, two rocks, two wrongs.

445
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 5: Shoot, I just had him and I closed out of it.

446
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna go all right, sorry, Okay,

447
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 5: that's off the page here, all right. My number one

448
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 5: corner on my board, my number eight overall player, Quinon Mitchell.

449
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 6: And I, uh he was.

450
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 5: He's a He was the third place guy for corner

451
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 5: for All Pro listing, so he just missed out being

452
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 5: on an All Pro team. Playing with the Eagles this

453
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: last year, I really slammed the table for Quannon Mitchell,

454
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 5: so I'm I'm glad it worked out for him.

455
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 6: Number eight overall player on my board.

456
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 4: Give me one in the other Brian one right, one wrong.

457
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: I was completely right about Brock Bowers. I had him

458
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 3: as the sixth best player on my board at year.

459
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 3: I was completely wrong. Much like with Nicks, I was

460
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: wrong about Drake May. Oh, Drake May. I had Drake

461
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: May at twenty eight, but should have been a lot higher.

462
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: We all had those those defensive linemen all shoved up there.

463
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: Actually those offensive tackles, excuse me, they were all kind

464
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: of shoved up at the top of the board. I

465
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: think that the guy to me because, like I say,

466
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: when you start to talk about where Drake May or

467
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: Nicks should have been. I had Dallas Dallas Turner the

468
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: Alabama edge at twelve. That's a wrong yep, right there,

469
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 3: So I mean as you had him that high, yeah,

470
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 3: that's where I had him. So I felt like that

471
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: for the most part, these quarterbacks, I kind of missed

472
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 3: on them that way. I did the rally with my

473
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: quarterback though, I had Jane Daniels at four, so you know,

474
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: kind of you know, you kind of got it. You know,

475
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: you're some of these are going to be good. Also,

476
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,479
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas was another one that I had right on

477
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 3: my board as well, so you know that LSU. But

478
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: these I have a really good feel for these receivers,

479
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: you know when they come out and what they can do.

480
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: But those two quarterbacks straight May and bo Nicks, I

481
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: did not give them nearly enough credit in this coming

482
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: up this pass draft.

483
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 4: M h, what do you think, Zach right, I think

484
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 4: we could go with Cooper Bebe. That one ended up

485
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: hitting pretty hard there here locally in Dallas. He's your

486
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: starter for the next decade. And he definitely is a

487
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 4: guy that slid in at center and was pretty good

488
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 4: as a rookie. Do I still think as a guard

489
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 4: the dude could end up being an All pro I

490
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 4: do as a center, I think he's going to be

491
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 4: a good steady player for you. There were moments, I

492
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: think we all like some of the penalties, a couple

493
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: of snaps went a little bit high, But overall, for

494
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: a rookie center who played the position for his first year,

495
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: I think Cooper Bebe was a big time hit. You

496
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 4: guys know my affinity for him. In last year's draft,

497
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: just to.

498
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 5: Back you up, of all rookie offensive linemen with at

499
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: least four hundred snaps, he had the second lowest pressure rate.

500
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: That's amazing. That's amazing.

501
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: And I actually I think Barton was up there as well.

502
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 4: I mean Barton, I had him really really high and

503
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: he ended up having a good year.

504
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: Could you have gone Cooper and Cooper? Did you? Where'd

505
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: you have Cooper?

506
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 6: Did Genen?

507
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 4: I had twentieth best player?

508
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. You see? To me, was that's

509
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: a that's a right? I know I had him at

510
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: twenty nine. He was one of the guys I was

511
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: considering as a right. Yeah. With being at twenty nine,

512
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: it was.

513
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: Tough because the secondary player I missed the most on

514
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 4: was probably Bullock from USC who ended up having a

515
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: fantastic with the Texans. The thing for me was I

516
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: wanted to playim at corner. I thought with his size,

517
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: his ball skills, I was like, you know what, I

518
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: don't know that I want to playhim at safety. I

519
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: thought he looked way too skinny. I didn't love his

520
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: ability to be able to fill and get physical in

521
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: the run. He had a hell of a year. I

522
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: mean the ball skills translated. I saw that autely and

523
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: so that like I didn't get the evaluation completely wrong,

524
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 4: but I had him way too low. Ninety seventh best player,

525
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 4: and he was on a lot of all rookie teams

526
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: when you look at it, like at least a second

527
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 4: team member. He was a fantastic player this year. No,

528
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: that's a good one, Tommy. Do you want to go

529
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: with yours?

530
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

531
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 7: So I wasn't on the draft show obviously last course,

532
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 7: but scouts on are here in terms of what.

533
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: It's just not on recording. It's right exactly.

534
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 7: I was right about Mike Sayners still from Michigan. I

535
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 7: thought he played really well in Yeah, sorry.

536
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 6: Nick, were you right about about to talk about it?

537
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, but Mike Sander's still from the corner, the slot

538
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 7: corner from Michigan who played really well for dan Quinn

539
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 7: and that off and that defense excuse me out in

540
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 7: Washington this year. He was one of those guys where

541
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 7: and Nick and I have talked about this a couple

542
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 7: of times when we've watched guys even this year, where

543
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 7: you just watch defensive backs play and you feel you

544
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 7: kind of say to yourself, like, man, it seems like

545
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 7: Sander Still is making every single play when it comes

546
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 7: his way. And there's a couple of guys in this

547
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 7: class too that I think that of as well. So

548
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 7: Mike Sander Still was one of the brock Bowers And

549
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 7: that's kind of a layup. Yeah, really since his true

550
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 7: freshman season in Georgia, incredible play. Bowers could have gone

551
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 7: bro and the dude is just ridiculous. So he's going

552
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 7: to be an All Pro contender for the rest of

553
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 7: his career.

554
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 4: I think, well, you're saying no, no, you're good, keep going,

555
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: keep going on.

556
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 7: The flipping over to the wrongs ad and I Mitchell

557
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 7: from Texas breaks my heart.

558
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 6: He copy my paper over here, Mitchell, Ye tell me

559
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 6: you're not alone.

560
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: I had Mitchell at twenty one on my.

561
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 7: Book I thought Mitchell should have gone before Worthy. I

562
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 7: thought it was the better of the two wide receivers

563
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 7: out of Texas that year.

564
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 4: I don't think you were alone and that we're going.

565
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: I know I missed on him as well.

566
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 7: He was just fantastic at Texas when you look at

567
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 7: the fifty to fifty balls and some of the stuff

568
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 7: he was able to do.

569
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: Was it banged up?

570
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 5: Did he not play a whole lot or it wasn't

571
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 5: a banged up situation. It was just just him not

572
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 5: being able to get on the field. I had him

573
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 5: forty one in the end, but I remember dropping him

574
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: like the week of the draft because of character concerns.

575
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 5: So I forget where exactly I had him, but I

576
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: probably would have had him in that twenty ish range.

577
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: I do remember the character concerns being a conversation. That's yeah,

578
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: that's unfortunate because he was a good player of college.

579
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 4: What were your other one?

580
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 8: Yeah?

581
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 7: My last wrong was Jade and Daniels. I thought this

582
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 7: was going to be just a complete whiff and yeah,

583
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 7: that was that was really bad.

584
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 4: Sorry, Daniels.

585
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 7: I wasn't skilled and I'm sold now, so I apologize.

586
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: I thought Jada Daniels was Anthony Richardson, So I was

587
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: wrong on him too, Sorry.

588
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 7: Bobby, I just saw I just saw one one too

589
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 7: many of those like looney tunes asque hits college where

590
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 7: he would get hit and the ball would fly fifteen

591
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 7: yards of the year, he's doing a backflip after the contact,

592
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 7: and I was just like, I don't know if he

593
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 7: can get hang around.

594
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: Nailed pretty good the other night.

595
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, college, he's done a good job.

596
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: At avoiding those. You guys have Michael Pennix.

597
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: I had Pannis fifty two.

598
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 6: I didn't love him.

599
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: I liked Penix. He was my third quarterback. But I

600
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: had him at thirty.

601
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: I had him at oh Man, I was really high

602
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: on Pinix. I had him at fourteen.

603
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: Well, I him at twenty.

604
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had him.

605
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: Think about that. How about the Nate Wiggins has shown

606
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: up to the Clemson twive corner.

607
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is honestly a little surprising for me,

608
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: just because of how slender he is. You factor, and

609
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 5: then he went to the Ravens. They're so great at

610
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 5: developing skins of backs. Yeah, it makes sense why he

611
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 5: had a good year.

612
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: But I aim at fifteen, I was kind of thinking

613
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: and okay, somebody tell me how Byron Murphy played.

614
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: Eh, I can give you some. He was up and down.

615
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 6: He didn't get on the field a ton.

616
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 5: It could compare to other some of these other round

617
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 5: guys like Jerzon Newton had a lot time, a lot

618
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: more time I had.

619
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: I had Murphy ahead of Newton. Same.

620
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy played four hundred and fifty snaps. I mean

621
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: he played. He had twenty one pressures, one sack, twenty

622
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: one tackles as well.

623
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: So okay, fourteenth overall player, probably not.

624
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 4: I had him at nine. I had him even higher

625
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 4: than you did. But Fisk I hit on. I had

626
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 4: Fisk at twenty six. That's a good one. And he

627
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: was brilliant.

628
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: I mean this.

629
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: He he led all rookie de alignment fifty one pressures

630
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: on the year. I mean, fist to me seemed like

631
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: an easy, easy one to look at and be like,

632
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: this dude's going to be a bad.

633
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: I got one more for you, huh. I got one more?

634
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: And and where I have him is I don't know

635
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: if it's right. And I think you should be a

636
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: lot higher about Jared Verse from four to stay teen.

637
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 3: What did you have at fifteeneen eighteen. I'm at ten.

638
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: Should have him at like you should have had him

639
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: at three, top five seriously fourteen. And you know who

640
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: Jared versus in this draft? That Carter kid from Penn State.

641
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, if you want to, if you want

642
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: a comparison of again, think.

643
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 5: Carter's got a little bit more finesse. That's no discredited verse.

644
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 5: I just think he has more power. But it's it's

645
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: seeing your first live was eye opening for me.

646
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: Ramp practice. Yeah, Houly Cheeves, I'm like, all right, how

647
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: why did I not have this guy high?

648
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: You and I were on the in the middle of

649
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: training cap live. We were on training can a guy

650
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: and almost cussed on the microphone. It's like, like had

651
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: to stop from.

652
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: Whenever we were in the middle of it.

653
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: He was incredible.

654
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 5: Last last name of it. I could throw around Latimerconkey.

655
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 5: Where'd you guys?

656
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: Oh Conky? I was.

657
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: I was trying to get mccaky in the first round.

658
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: I had him at twenty eight, I had him in

659
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Speaker 4: the second. I had a twenty nine overall.

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Speaker 3: Oh let me look at that. A second round it's

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Speaker 3: not going to be where it needs to be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had hibout thirty six and he probably shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: I had Ricky Pearsaw like it's sixty one, so I

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Speaker 3: have way down there and I like Pearsaw more than McConkie,

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Speaker 3: and I bet you I have am. It's getting bad

666
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Speaker 3: now I'm going down the list.

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Speaker 4: It's getting bad way back see.

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Speaker 2: And this is what's fun about reliving all of this,

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Speaker 2: this work that did last year.

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Speaker 5: You know Bucky Irvin, Yeah, Bucky was one of my

671
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 5: definitely hit Bucky was definitely one of you didn't talk

672
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Speaker 5: about him. I know I didn't. Well, I was circling

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Speaker 5: back for the one right, one wrong. But yeah, Bucky

674
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Speaker 5: Irving that that was one that I slammed the table

675
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Speaker 5: for hard. I was hoping this team picked him, but

676
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 5: he had a good year.

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Speaker 4: The one guy that I'm proud of that I got

678
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Speaker 4: right is Dominic Pooney, the guard from UH that ended

679
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Speaker 4: up in San Francisco. He was out of Kansas.

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Speaker 2: I had a second round grade for him for him

681
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: and initially people wanted to put him a tackle.

682
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Speaker 4: I wanted to move him to guard.

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Speaker 2: He ended up being a top ten Pro Football Focused

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Speaker 2: grade among all roles.

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Speaker 3: Wait Man, I didn't have him bad I did forty

686
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Speaker 3: five Poony Nony Honkey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh you just missed him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's forty five.

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00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: Could have been a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I had him right right behind fist.

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Speaker 6: You were like eighty eighty one.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I I we needed to jump both those guys.

693
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: But how did Shaydon Hicks? How did Jaydon Hicks from

694
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Speaker 3: Washington State to safety play?

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Speaker 4: Mmm?

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Speaker 6: Great quid. I don't even remember where he got drafted.

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Speaker 3: Man, that I know.

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00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: My guy Bullard did start with Kansas City.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He played three hundred and thirty snaps Ryan back half

701
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Speaker 2: the beer, mostly free all right, I didn't really do

702
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: much number yeah forty third player right there.

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Speaker 4: I think the two guys consensuously. We can all take

704
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 4: a victory. Lap on was Peyton Wilson. Yes, he's good.

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Speaker 4: And then when we got to see is Garndo, I

706
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: felt like he was a darling in the Disip show.

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Speaker 4: We all liked him.

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Speaker 3: Is Grendo performed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he was good and shout out to Ray Davis

710
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Speaker 4: with the bills.

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00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: I had him at one o seven on Ray Davis.

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00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: I remember that one.

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00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: I was eighty nine on Ray Davis. I had a

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Speaker 4: little crush on him.

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Speaker 2: Matt Gonsalvez, the guard from pitt That was a thirty

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Speaker 2: visit guy.

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Speaker 4: And then what about Max Melton. I know you guys

718
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Speaker 4: were high on him.

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Speaker 3: I was not.

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Speaker 2: I had him wrong the corner I had a fourth Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was corner ten for me. He was a fourth

722
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Speaker 2: round grade. He ended up starting and playing six hundred

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Speaker 2: total snaps said, wow, a lot of time with Arizona's

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Speaker 2: had fifty nine. Yeah, I see, I had him in

725
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Speaker 2: like the one twenties.

726
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Speaker 3: I had him at one thirty. I was not a fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so you same boat flagged all the time.

728
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Speaker 3: At the next level, he was a grabber.

729
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Speaker 4: I don't think he got flagged a ton.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think I maybe found my biggest miss.

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Speaker 3: Oh what was it?

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Speaker 6: N oh no, Kai Corley? Who Yeah, this one, this

734
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Speaker 6: one's wrong.

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Speaker 4: Would you have him?

736
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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 5: I just had him at forty four and he had

738
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: three receptions for sixteen yards this year. But also he

739
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: played for an awful franchise.

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Speaker 7: So in that one play where he fumbled in the

741
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Speaker 7: or did he drop the ball at the goal line

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Speaker 7: right before his career touchdown.

743
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Speaker 4: Well, Javon Baker, the touchdown maker, didn't make us really good.

744
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: I had him at seventy one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that guy.

746
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: Had a catch mate.

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Speaker 6: You just take all that UCF love and bottle it

748
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 6: up into r J.

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Speaker 3: Harvey. Yeah it is r J.

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Speaker 4: Harvey.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I'll tell you a cowboy draft pick

752
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: that made me look bad is Mary's Leafol. Yeah that's fair,

753
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to. I mean I was

754
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: not too particularly happy with when Mary's Leafol got picked.

755
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm looking my top two on my Would you have

756
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: him at fifteen? Yeah, so you know, yeah, that's that's

757
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: a bad miss.

758
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: I had him at ninety five, so I felt pretty

759
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: good about that one. Ben Sanat was one that I

760
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: had really high. I had him as a top sixty player.

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00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: He finished with five catches for twenty eight yards for Washington.

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Speaker 4: I was pretty low on him just because I didn't

763
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Speaker 4: know where to play.

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Speaker 3: But TJ.

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Speaker 4: Tampa, I was super high one and I don't know

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Speaker 4: what he did this year. I had at thirty seven

767
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Speaker 4: on my board. TJ.

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Speaker 3: Tampa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, top second round corner, right behind the top three

770
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Speaker 4: guys Arnold Mitchell and.

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Speaker 3: Iowa State kid. Right he played. I loved TJ. Tampa.

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Speaker 2: TJ Tampa played a total of eighteen snaps.

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Speaker 4: Oh jeez, yeah, that's that's right.

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00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: He was still holding out hope for our guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we like our guys, all right, fun exercise. If

776
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: you guys did your own research last year, tweet at us,

777
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: let us know who were your rights and who were

778
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Speaker 2: your wrongs?

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00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 4: Who'd you hit on? Who did you miss on?

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Speaker 2: It is we got a lot of work left to

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Speaker 2: do going into the draft. Well, because of that, we've

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Speaker 2: got some names that have recently declared for the draft.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk through a couple of these names,

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Speaker 2: including one that played quarterback in the Cotton Bowl recently,

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Speaker 3: I know We had this discussion yesterday about Walker, the

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Speaker 3: edge rudger rusher, a scout that listen to our show.

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Speaker 3: It's not a scout from this football team, scout from

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Speaker 3: another team. We love you. And he got into our

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Speaker 3: discussion about Walker that we thought he was an edge

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 3: and this is his area, and he said, he goes listen.

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Speaker 3: I like this kid a lot, super kid. He's an

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Speaker 3: inside linebacker for me on first and second down and

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Speaker 3: a sub sub put wherever you want. Can't live with

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Speaker 3: him as a full time edge rusher. And I said,

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Speaker 3: not an edge. Get too warred down, was my question

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Speaker 3: to him. And he said too short. He's six oh

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Speaker 3: one four. He just will get outsized. He's a chess piece.

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Speaker 3: Is what you would do? He said. You know, he

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Speaker 3: was talking about that move him around like what they

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Speaker 3: do with my kid kind of thing. But he says,

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Speaker 3: if you play them at full time edge, he felt

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Speaker 3: like that he would get really worred down his game.

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Speaker 3: So I like, I say, he was just driving around

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Speaker 3: listening to our show and because he said, hey, I

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Speaker 3: heard you guys were talking about Walker, and this is

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Speaker 3: what I this is how I would look at it. Now,

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Speaker 3: we could all say no, he's an edge and all that,

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Speaker 3: but it is an interesting thing to think about him

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Speaker 3: being six to one and a half sure, and maybe

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Speaker 3: playing full time edge if that's what we think.

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Speaker 5: Saw him person yesterday and the length was the lack

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Speaker 5: of length was something I know. Okay, So I was like, okay,

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Speaker 5: he's he looks a little slender. There's not a ton

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Speaker 5: of length there. Let me wait a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 5: like let his body get back from bouncing back from

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Speaker 5: the season and let me reevaluate there. But I do

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Speaker 5: like his lower half. But I was I didn't notice

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Speaker 5: that his length wasn't what I thought.

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Speaker 3: I just wondered, like, when there's several guys like that

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Speaker 3: that we're going to look at. Because you watch him

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Speaker 3: play at George, there's no question he can rush the past.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but do.

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Speaker 3: You want him doing it full time? I think that's

881
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: something now that we and you know what if he

882
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: might be a guy at twelve that this football team

883
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: would consider, you know, I mean, so I think you

884
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: have to study up on really we need to dig

885
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: a little further what other teams or maybe what this

886
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: what this team, what this team is thinking about him

887
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: as an edge because I know, I popped in and

888
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: you guys caught me and I went edge, and I'm like,

889
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: you know, and then but we you and I talked

890
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: about it.

891
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: We've just because I think he's an edge. I don't

892
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 4: see the athleticism to be able to play off ball

893
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Right, But you did argue you wanted

894
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: him as a linebacker.

895
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: I thought initially as a linebacker, but I didn't think

896
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: of it for the reasons that this scout told me

897
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: for Yeah, you know, I was. I just was thinking, well,

898
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: I mean, off ball linebackers seems to kind of work out.

899
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to present that after yesterday. But

900
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: shout out to the scout that listens to us as

901
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: he's driving around.

902
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 4: No, and that's super insightful. If you guys hear anything

903
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: like that.

904
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always good to share because now that

905
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 2: information's out there, we need.

906
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: To figure out how cowboys evaluate him. We need to

907
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: think about, you know, through our back channels or whatever

908
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: we have to do. Are you looking at Walker as

909
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: a linebacker or are you looking at him as an edge?

910
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 5: Well, the Cowboys need to figure out what the Cowboys

911
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: are evaluating exactly.

912
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

913
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: That's a good one, all right, some of these guys

914
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: that are working their way out. I teased Quinn yours

915
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: and what he brings as a quarterback prospect in this class. Tommy,

916
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: you spend some time covering Quinn throughout his career. Where

917
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: does he fit in this quarterback class? Because it's not

918
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: a strong quarterback class to begin with. I think we've

919
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: all kind of agreed on that there are some names

920
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: at the top, but it's not necessarily the same depth

921
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: of quarterback class that we've talked about in the past.

922
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: Where would you put ers at this point in time?

923
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 7: Yours is around QB three QB four for me in

924
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 7: this draft, and I think part of that is a

925
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 7: testament too. It's not necessarily the strongest class. But this

926
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 7: is a guy that I've watched. I've watched every start

927
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 7: of his since his freshman season at Texas, and you

928
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 7: look at the touch that he's able to put on

929
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 7: some of these balls, and how just easy he makes

930
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 7: it look in terms of the motion and getting the

931
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 7: ball out of his hands. He can operate an RPO offense,

932
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 7: and you know, he's made some wild plays over the

933
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 7: course of his career. The only problem is when he

934
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 7: gets pressured, he turns the stone. It's almost like everything

935
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 7: collapses in front of him and he doesn't know what

936
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 7: to do. Sometimes he did a better job, I think

937
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 7: this last year of stepping up at certain points, but

938
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 7: then you know he's got the ankle injury and the

939
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 7: oblique injury, and so I think once those things happened

940
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 7: later on in the season as the progressed, he was

941
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 7: a little bit more hesitant to step up really confidently.

942
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 7: I thought the best tape that he put out was

943
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 7: against Michigan back in the Week two. He was slinging

944
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 7: it all over the field.

945
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: Gunner heelm touchdown pass.

946
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 7: Was beautiful, beautiful, and he's had a lot of those

947
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 7: thrills where it's good touch, it's into a tight window,

948
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 7: and he's able to make those wild plays. But at

949
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 7: the same time, it's that pocket presence that worries me.

950
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 7: And there are still sometimes where you just kind of

951
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 7: scratch your head with some of the decisions that he makes.

952
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 7: But all in all, I think that there's a lot

953
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 7: that you can work with there. I just think that

954
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 7: he needs time. Throughout his entire career, Cooenewers has kind

955
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 7: of rushed himself into everything you think about from high

956
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 7: school going to Ohio State, he leaves his senior year,

957
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 7: so he goes a year early, one of the first

958
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 7: big nil names once that became legal, and doesn't work

959
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 7: out there, so he comes to Texas. He's instantly thrown

960
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 7: into the fire, and he's tasked with basically rejuvenating a

961
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 7: program that had been in the dumpster for the better

962
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 7: part of two decades. And I think he would greatly

963
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 7: benefit from sitting down and if he finds the right fit,

964
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 7: from just sitting learning the offense, getting the time to develop,

965
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 7: work out those things that need to get worked out,

966
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 7: whether it be pocket presence, whether it be I'm not

967
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 7: saying he has bad football IQ, but decision making, and

968
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 7: then I think he can develop into a pretty song.

969
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: You think he sees the field well or is that

970
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 3: an issue? And I wonder this because I watched bo

971
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: Nix at Auburn look awful, and then I watched him

972
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: go to Oregon and it seemed like he got things

973
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: kind of turned around. But I wasn't as high on

974
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: him as I needed to. But if it is Quinn,

975
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: does his problem seeing the field or is it just

976
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: that that he just doesn't have a feel for how

977
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: to move to keep his eyes down the field.

978
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 7: I think it's the movement problem that he doesn't. He

979
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 7: doesn't quite get how to.

980
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: Move around on the pot. Joe Burrow will duck, you

981
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: see Joe Burrow duck. Yeah, fields it and he'll he'll

982
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: compress and then kind of find his way out of

983
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: it and then make a throw.

984
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: He may have the best pocket presence in the NFL,

985
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: though he might Joe Burrow.

986
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like a high X. Seriously. I mean he'll

987
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: put both hands of the ball and just dip his

988
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: shoulder and the kind of find a way to get

989
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: through and then he ends up on the other side.

990
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: And I just wonder with yours, it seems like when

991
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: the pressure is on him, and I wonder if it's

992
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: just he's too locked on to what's going on down

993
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: the field. You know, that's kind of.

994
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: When he gets a little happy feet and that's where

995
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: you see the balls start to sail on him a

996
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: little bit.

997
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 7: And the footwork has been an issue since day one

998
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 7: with yours. Is that's something His feet have rarely been

999
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 7: set on some of these bad throws that you see,

1000
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: and it is a real problem his freshman season where

1001
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 7: he would just be all over the place and sure

1002
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 7: you would get those wow throws like, oh my god,

1003
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 7: how did he get that all the way down the field?

1004
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 7: Then he has some plays where he's just throwing it

1005
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 7: right to a defender. So coachable guyutely absolutely, absolutely, Yeah,

1006
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 7: there's without no question there, and he'sn.

1007
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: Some success with those guys in the league, right Yeah.

1008
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 7: And I think if we're talking about the mental aspect too,

1009
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 7: I think this is a guy who doesn't get enough

1010
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 7: credit for being a good leader. You think about the

1011
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 7: stuff that was thrust on this guy's shoulder with Arch

1012
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 7: Manning sitting right behind, and you're kind of knocking on

1013
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 7: that door, and he's still got guys to come and

1014
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: play for him, and he still operated the Steve Starcasian

1015
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 7: offense really well. Again, there's gonna be a lot of

1016
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 7: work that has to be done for it to translate

1017
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 7: to the NFL. But back to your question, Yeah, I

1018
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 7: think movement in the pocket is what is where it

1019
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 7: stands because it's got the length of that bottom half

1020
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 7: doesn't have as much of that, and the duck and

1021
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 7: turning all.

1022
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: That seems stiffers, Yeah, really stiff in your pocket.

1023
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 7: If that happens, he just collapses and he just takes

1024
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 7: the sack.

1025
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: And the injuries.

1026
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: Like he had a year season where he's been healthy.

1027
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 6: Not since his sophomore year of high school. And he

1028
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 6: took a hit while he took a hit.

1029
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: From Dallas Turner in his sophomore year in the second

1030
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 5: game of the season that I think changed how he

1031
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: how he handles pocket pressure, and I don't feel like

1032
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: he's ever handled pressure the same since then.

1033
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: That guy's a bust, So we can't miss right talk

1034
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 4: about it.

1035
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

1036
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 5: It was in the second quarter and he uh, he

1037
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: got hit on a first it was a first and

1038
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 5: goal and they dropped back to pass change the whole game,

1039
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: and it changed the whole game. And maybe he's landed

1040
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 5: on his AC joint, but he's dealt with an O

1041
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 5: bleach strain, ankle spread and a C joint in both shoulders.

1042
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 5: Uh sports hernia growing injury in high school that kept

1043
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 5: him out for most of his senior year. But yeah,

1044
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: injuries are a concern. But I uh I commed him

1045
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 5: to uh, I camped him to brock Party in the

1046
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: sense that he uh, if he finds the right fit,

1047
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: then it could work out for him, especially if he

1048
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 5: has weapons, and I think he gives you enough to

1049
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 5: uh be able to work with. I mean when you

1050
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: talk about his touch, his arm angle, precision decision making

1051
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 5: when he's not under pressure, I think he's QB two

1052
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 5: in this class. But you take you factor everything in.

1053
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: I have him at QB seven.

1054
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: Where should we have draft drafted brock Party? Who is that?

1055
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: Who was in that class?

1056
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying round brock Party went to irrelevant, irrelevant to

1057
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: should have went first round pick, should have been a

1058
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: first round pick. Right.

1059
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: Let me look at the other quarterbacks and one.

1060
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 5: That I think the perfect fit for Quinn is is

1061
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: the Rams. I think if he can go to a

1062
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: place like like Lost of Love, work under McVeigh and

1063
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: take a couple of years behind Matthew Stafford, I think

1064
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 5: that'd be the perfect fit for Quinn.

1065
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: You were Here's the other quarterbacks in that draft class

1066
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: with Brock Purty, Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis, Matt Carrall, Carson Strong,

1067
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 4: Sam Howe, Desmond, Ritter Bailey, Zappy, Jack Cones, Skyler Thompson, E. J. Perry.

1068
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 3: You get the point. Oh my, he should have gone.

1069
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: He's been the first off ahead of Kenny Pickett.

1070
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1071
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1072
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: I wonder how the Steelers should be feeling right now

1073
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: if they had rock Perty that would be and well

1074
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: it would have been Yeah, it would have been Pittsburgh.

1075
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: When I think the thing about the fact that that

1076
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: Quinn Ewers has played in a lot of similar with

1077
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: brock Purty. I mean, brock Purty was four your guy, right,

1078
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: I mean all those starts that he got, and you

1079
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: kind of like Iowa State, You're thinking, oh, I got

1080
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: a couple of guys, had a runner, they had a receivers.

1081
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: I mean, they've had some guys. But man, I mean

1082
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: it's not a star studded lineup by any means that guy.

1083
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: But he played a lot of games, got a lot

1084
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: of experience, won a lot of games. Yeah, that's very similar.

1085
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: I think that's a really good comparison Quinn yours. No,

1086
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: I like it a lot.

1087
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 4: I just don't like his decision making.

1088
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: He was offered a scholarship to North Texas in the

1089
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: eighth grade.

1090
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: And he turned it down. I think that's a bad decision.

1091
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have taken it. He would have at

1092
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: least at least a national championship if he would have

1093
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: gone there, all right, some of the other names that

1094
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: have recently declared Nick Emon Worri from South Carolina.

1095
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: Safety, Yeah, I'm glad that you've brought him up. Okay,

1096
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: what do you want to you?

1097
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 3: Why do you go so this this guy.

1098
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: I was wondering what everyone else thought about him because

1099
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: I'm watching him and I'm like, Okay, dude looks like

1100
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: an NFL safety. He's checking off all the physical boxes.

1101
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: He moves pretty well.

1102
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: I like the.

1103
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: Backpedal, he's smooth. And then I'm watching him come up

1104
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: and run support or just any time a play is

1105
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: leaking out towards him, and I'm seeing a bit of

1106
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: a timid guy. Oh no, a guy that doesn't really

1107
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: want the smoke when it comes to contact. Now, he's

1108
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: going to be Senior Bowl invite and uh, you know

1109
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: he he he played middle linebacker in high school, so

1110
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: I didn't anticipate watching his film and thinking like the

1111
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 4: physical aspect of it would be a question clear communicator

1112
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: in the secondary. I mean, he's getting everybody lined up.

1113
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: He's an interchangeable safety. I think he can play both

1114
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 4: strong and free. Good feel for zone coverage. Most of

1115
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: his interceptions came in zone coverage where he's dropping off.

1116
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: But I just didn't see a very physical player. I

1117
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: wanted more violence at the strike point. I want him

1118
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 4: to come up and hit somebody. That's the difference between

1119
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 4: him and Malachi Starks. I saw a lot of Twitter

1120
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: scouts for trying to compare the two. That's what sets

1121
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: them apart from me. Malachi Starks. Now, there are some

1122
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: games first half against Alabama, and then when you watch

1123
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: him against Notre Dame, there are times where he can

1124
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: miss some tackles, can take some poor angles. I don't

1125
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 4: think he's a surefire perfect prospect, but there's a big

1126
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: gap between Starks and the way he comes up and

1127
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: runs support and em and wary from South Carolina.

1128
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: From me, I'd take exavier wats of Notre Dame over

1129
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: this cat. I agree, I mean, and I think, well,

1130
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 3: I think he nailed this guy, the South Carolina kid,

1131
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: because there's snaps, you see him take poor angles, he'll

1132
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: overrun the ball, the size of the frame. I mean,

1133
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: he should be a much better time, but that will

1134
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: come and go with and the length. But he needs

1135
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: to get some of this area of his game buttoned up.

1136
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 3: You should be more of a force, but he really

1137
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: struggles with that at times. And I at six three

1138
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 3: two twenty seven, my gosh, he he has that that

1139
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: look of a guy that should be playing a lot better.

1140
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: But I'll I'll take I'll take Exavier watch from Notre

1141
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: Dame over this guy all day. Watch it.

1142
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: He was going to be a Senior Bowl guy.

1143
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, he's a senior bol watching the the Texas

1144
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 5: A and M game or South Carolina upset them and

1145
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 5: uh if you want to call an upset and uh

1146
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 5: in Columbia, I fell in love with them and worry.

1147
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 6: I think with his size he can move so well.

1148
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you can quest his hips like.

1149
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 5: He's six foot damn there, five to ten. Yeah, throw

1150
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 5: him at free I don't need him to tackle. I

1151
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: just need him to use that length fit in the

1152
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 5: way of passing.

1153
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: And you know what, that's where I talking about accountability.

1154
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: I was wrong about Bulock on that I cared more

1155
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 4: about how would he do physically in the run. Maybe

1156
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: I shouldn't care as much if you're going to play

1157
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: him in free safety, because he does have the ability

1158
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: to do that.

1159
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: He liked his footwork a lot.

1160
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 6: I did, I see.

1161
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: I kind of felt like that. It was a little

1162
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: bit all over the place with him. And like you said,

1163
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was the smoothest when it came

1164
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: to backpedaling. I thought it was because he's a big guy.

1165
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: Maybe it does for his size. First size. Okay, I

1166
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: see what you're doing. Okay, ball skills are really really good. Though,

1167
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 3: he's got the he's got the ability with the ball

1168
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: skills to compete on the back end, for sure.

1169
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: But what about Jahad Campbell, another guy that you've probably

1170
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: gotten a chance to watch so far.

1171
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 4: Any of those names stick out?

1172
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, he sticks out to me. I think he's as

1173
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 7: one of the best linebackers in this class. The guy

1174
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 7: from Alabama fifty five tackles for them this year. It's

1175
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 7: a kind of top heavy class. I think Barrett Carter

1176
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 7: from Clemson the other guy who has been around an

1177
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 7: interesting name too to add to that, Smile London from Georgia.

1178
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 7: But no, I like Johad Campbell a lot. I think

1179
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 7: he's one of the better guys.

1180
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: I have to say his name, smile, smile.

1181
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 7: Smile like it's not s M I L E.

1182
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 4: It's s M A E L.

1183
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 10: They art.

1184
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 6: That's how I've heard it.

1185
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: Pronounce on the.

1186
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 4: Broadcast before interesting, Man, we're in trouble.

1187
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what about John Campbell.

1188
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: Well, we'll figure it out eventually, had some time.

1189
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: I'll still get it wrong.

1190
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 5: U John Campbell tackling machine always finds himself at the ball. Physical.

1191
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: He'll uh, he'll get you. He'll he'll get a couple

1192
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: of flags because of how physical he is. But I'll

1193
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 5: take that.

1194
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: He had an Auburn game that I called and one

1195
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: of them was unnecessary roughness on a defenseless receiver.

1196
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I mean there was.

1197
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 2: That might have been the loudest hit I've ever heard

1198
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: in stadium. And the windows were closed in front of me.

1199
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: That's it was an unbelievable almost physicality. You could have

1200
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 2: really really physical lineback.

1201
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: That was number say this though. Yeah, the thing about

1202
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: me is, I mean he is a great looking kid.

1203
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: You guys are right about physically, when he runs under blocks,

1204
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: he'll get under into trouble. So keep an eye on

1205
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: as you're watching the tape, You're like, man, I'm seeing

1206
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: him like it seems like he's kind of running under

1207
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: him and then the ball goes was the opposite direction, man,

1208
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 3: But he is he could be a force. I mean

1209
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: he's got some pop, he knows how to play coverage.

1210
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: This an interception he makes in the Georgia game that's

1211
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: really really pretty.

1212
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: So this year had five sacks. Yeah, he had half

1213
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: a sack the first two years. Maybe maybe he showed

1214
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: a little bit of that question he's got. I like

1215
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: the growth there. I mean he finally showed some past

1216
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 4: six three. Oh no, he could say one he can

1217
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: set the edge. Yeah, he can set the edge. So

1218
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: I that's a that's a possibility there with him. He's

1219
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: got so much downhill ability that I really liked. But

1220
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: it was I went to yeah, situation, edge, play off ball, Okay,

1221
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: I got you.

1222
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, stilling the question out there.

1223
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just dropping a little last one of the recent

1224
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: commitments Jalen Kimber.

1225
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, a Mansfield kid ended up going to Penn State.

1226
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 5: And I love what he brings at the corner position.

1227
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 5: And I think he's going to be a guy that

1228
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 5: rises during the draft process. He's got the ideal builds

1229
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 5: size that you want at corner. I love his coverage

1230
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 5: ability when you look at you know, some of these

1231
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 5: games at Penn State has played against good passing offenses

1232
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 5: this past season, you typically find Jalen Kimber around the ball,

1233
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 5: or excuse me, you typically find Jalen Kimber not around

1234
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 5: the ball because they're not throwing it to him.

1235
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 6: I like Jalen Kimber.

1236
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 5: I think this is the guy you're not hearing about

1237
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 5: right now, but you're going to as the process goes on.

1238
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: Interesting.

1239
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: That's a good name to keep an eye on. I

1240
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: had him lay down the list. I haven't looked at

1241
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: him yet.

1242
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: Bobby was right about that linebacker from UCLA by Oh,

1243
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: he's fantastic.

1244
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: Did you watch him last night?

1245
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1246
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you think about him?

1247
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'll tell you what. This gives a walk on

1248
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: real quick. And he doesn't have a lot of bulk.

1249
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 3: He's how do you pronounce his last name? Sweet?

1250
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: That's another to let me see if I can get

1251
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 4: a sneer sweat sweat swassengers swsternger. Yeah, sweassengers sweatnger.

1252
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: He's Carson Swetsinger from UCLA six two two twenty five.

1253
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: This guy doesn't miss tackles. He had one hundred and

1254
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: fifty three of him and I was watching this game

1255
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: USC Fresno Washington. He is really really impressive because he

1256
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: plays down. He'll like say he was a walk on

1257
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: and he got a scholarship because he's a really good

1258
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: special teams player. He had four sacks. Bobby's like, I

1259
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: found I found my overshown and I'm like, yeah, sure right,

1260
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: you found over shown. Bobby's not wrong. This guy is

1261
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: high IQ, high intensity. He does a great job as

1262
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 3: rushing the passer. He sniffs out blocking assignments and stuff

1263
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: like that, and he's right there. So yeah, keep an

1264
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: eye on keep an eye on this kid from from UCLA.

1265
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: As far as a linebacker that can play off the ball,

1266
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: can pass rush, play special teams, and also playing coverage,

1267
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: this guy is a really I mean he's gonna he's

1268
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: gonna probably start off on special teams and then get

1269
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: sub package work and then then bamp take off from there.

1270
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: But at six two twenty five, you're gonna probably be

1271
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: a little scared of the size. But he makes it

1272
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: seem like he made every single tackle on the UCLA

1273
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: team that really really wasn't all that great.

1274
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: He's projected to be about a four to seven guys.

1275
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy, but he but he plays so

1276
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 3: much faster than that. Yeah, it's like a third round guy.

1277
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: You know on my book there.

1278
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: It's interesting. Is this a good linebacker class in general?

1279
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: I feel enough I haven't seen enough of I mean,

1280
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: like we're looking at a guy like Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma,

1281
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: and that's just a guy that's sound like you don't

1282
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: like Danny stuts I mean he's instinctive and makes a

1283
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 4: ton of tackles, but like, is he going to translate

1284
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 4: to the NFL? He might just be a special teams.

1285
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: In the ENFA.

1286
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a lot of them. And Tommy both

1287
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 4: just looked at it. Well. I mean, I Tommy from

1288
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: a Texas standpoint.

1289
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: Nothing. He was an outstanding college.

1290
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: Player, all right, right, that dude deserves his praise, But

1291
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: I don't know that that's going to translate to being

1292
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 4: an NFL starter necessarily. Its probably a Day three pick anyway.

1293
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 5: Can I give you a linebacker to go home and

1294
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 5: watch when come back? Jeffrey Bossa from Oregon. This is

1295
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 5: uh okay, this one five yeah inside and is also

1296
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: a tackling machine, always finds himself at the ball. You

1297
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 5: talk about Oregon's defensive slash, he was he was the

1298
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 5: reason for that. He's the leader of that group.

1299
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 3: So, okay, give me bassa.

1300
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 4: Jacob Parish. Do you can see him yesterday? He did

1301
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 4: see him yesterday, Okay, Jacob Parish from k State. He

1302
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: not flott. This dude might end up winning the combine. Okay,

1303
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: at the forty. But this guy, I was watching him

1304
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 4: last night. Bobby's like I saw him today. You need

1305
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 4: to give him a look. Jacob Parish can ball now.

1306
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 4: He's kind of got everything you look for. Five to ten, right,

1307
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 4: not necessarily the tallest guy in the world, but I

1308
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: think he's got longer arms than that. The frame's okay,

1309
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Speaker 4: but Jacob Parrish, the recovery speed is elite with him.

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00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 4: He can run with everybody, can be a little physical.

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Speaker 4: I like Jacob Parish. He's a guy to go.

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Speaker 3: Home and watch as well.

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Speaker 4: Short guys from Kansas State, you know. I mean Zach's

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Speaker 4: all for of those guys. That's what That's what he

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Speaker 4: got right, I'm about k State Wildcats?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Question that the running back. That's that might be my

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Speaker 4: pet cat running back this year to fourth round.

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Speaker 5: Fifth I saw him yesterday. He looked a little slender,

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Speaker 5: but he's longer than than I think.

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Speaker 3: He is, a big boy.

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Speaker 6: He's got tall length he does.

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Speaker 4: He can catch the ball on the back field good

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Speaker 4: in between the tackles. Runner has some juice, can finish

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Speaker 4: the fan of his game as well. Devin Neil from Kansas,

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Speaker 4: that guy's little bowling ball as well. I like him

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 6: We like his junior year a little bit more, much better.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, same thing with like just like that junior

1331
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: season more than they liked this year. The quarterback, same thing.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk. We could spend a whole show

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Speaker 4: on running backs.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely could, because this is a deep class and there's

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Speaker 2: some question marks. I think Olie Gordon, for me, is

1336
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: one of the more interesting pieces because he was a

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00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: a badass his junior year. Could have tea first or

1338
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: second round pick. Being yeah, ended up being just a

1339
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: dud his final season.

1340
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: And they're real quick.

1341
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: What happens to line bad?

1342
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: So this is this is literally the notes I put

1343
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 5: suffered behind bad offensive line in twenty twenty four. Does

1344
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 5: he need an offensive line to succeed? The streets are

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Speaker 5: saying the streets, but I love his power and downhill ability.

1346
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 5: I think it's worth spending a Day two pick on

1347
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 5: if it gets to that point. I mean, he's he's

1348
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 5: a big boy. He was Trinity guy by the way,

1349
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Speaker 5: DFW shut up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely was.

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Speaker 2: A great player. You los Trinity outside of the NFL, sir.

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Speaker 2: Some people are saying that he would be a day

1353
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: like a mid day three pick, which I just don't

1354
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: see yet.

1355
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Speaker 4: I'm not there. I think he draw. Yeah, I don't

1356
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: know this too. I'd take Trayvon Henderson over him. Ohio State, Yeah,

1357
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 4: I would probably do.

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00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1359
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: That's a that's a fair assessment.

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: That Tennessee kids for real? Yeah?

1361
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: Who is Outamson Sampson?

1362
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good enough.

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00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: You don't have to tell me on Tennessee backs. You know,

1364
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: I loved me some Jalen Wright. Last, what about Caleb

1365
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: Johnson from Iowa too? Yeah, cal Johnson's the number two

1366
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: back in the class. But there is a drop over

1367
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: a Marion Hampton. Yeah, he's better than Hampton. Yeah, john

1368
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: is better than Hampton.

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00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: Hampton is to Marco Murray, I have Johnson over I

1370
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: think I think Johnson's better.

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00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: Who is Johnson? Then?

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: But who would Johnson be? If it's a good question? Murray?

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00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: Marco Murray's not bad. Gent gives me some minute vibes.

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Speaker 6: He does he does runs like I love it.

1375
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Speaker 4: And I can't talk about that on our show because

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get like fought by Eric follow Eric Haates.

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Speaker 3: We talked running back, good Lord, I cannot we got

1378
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: We only talked about running.

1379
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: Backs, going, yeah, he's there, and there's a drop off too,

1380
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: like Genty's fantastic, and then I know it's a deep

1381
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: running back class, but like there's levels of this. It's

1382
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: Genty and it's everybody else.

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Speaker 6: Oh one hundred.

1384
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: Let's not pretend we can just not everybody's elite. Gent's elite.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we got through our third episode of the

1386
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Speaker 2: Draft show and we made sure to mention Ashton Gentle again.

1387
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Speaker 3: So let's keep the street alive.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about him again on Thursday, and we'll continue

1389
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Speaker 2: to reconvene as the year goes on. Officially one hundred

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Speaker 2: days away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 6: I'm having fun.

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00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good.

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00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: We're getting full and it's still a long way away,

1394
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: but not that far.

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Speaker 3: That far days.

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 4: One hundred days for.

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilchuck Bryan brought us Nick Harris, Tommy Yarrish, and

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Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so

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Speaker 2: long for the Draft show.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you on Thursday.

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