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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two.

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Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: Is this Kevin Durant's last stomp or just his next stop.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Vincent Goodwill, who did a deep dive

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Speaker 2: on Kevin Durant going to the Rockets. He'll join us

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Speaker 2: coming up. We'll play fill in the blank this hour

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Speaker 2: as well. The Pacers. Tyre's Halliburton has Achilles surgery. No

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Speaker 2: timeline announced, but they are usually about a eight month

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Speaker 3: Used to be a year.

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Speaker 2: But you know, with all surgeries, if you think about

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Speaker 2: what knee surgeries were fifty years ago, where they actually

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Speaker 2: opened you up, and then you got Arthur scoptic surgery,

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Speaker 2: and they've kind of mastered knees hip surgery, replacement surgery,

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Speaker 2: knee replacement, Shoulders still tricky and having had both shoulders done,

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Speaker 2: still tricky.

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Speaker 3: They haven't.

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Speaker 2: Mastered that yet, as both of my shoulders will attest to.

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Speaker 2: But Tyrese Haliburton out with the Achilles and his social

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Speaker 2: media post was really wonderful.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: Because he said, look, I do it again, and this

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Speaker 2: sucks and I'm sitting here and everybody says you're going

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Speaker 2: to be better, you're going to be stronger, and he says,

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Speaker 2: you know the cliche, lol. But he's got a long,

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Speaker 2: long road here, and that's going to be the key.

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Speaker 2: Like you want to be a good teammate now is

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Speaker 2: when you could be a good teammate to Tyrese Haliburton.

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Speaker 2: In four months from now, you can be a really

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Speaker 2: good teammate with Tyrese Haliburton. And that's just being in

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Speaker 2: his life, being around him, cheering him up because he

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Speaker 2: is going to have some down days and he gave

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Speaker 2: you everything and you got to sit around in a

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Speaker 2: hospital bed and he's probably watching Sports Center. There's going

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Speaker 2: to be the victory parade with see that's where you

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Speaker 2: press the button to get the nurse to come in

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Speaker 2: and it's like, what's wrong, what's wrong? Get this parade off? Uh,

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Speaker 2: this isn't helping my rehab. Eight seven seven three DP

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Speaker 2: And pull question for hour two. We'll have that for you.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP Show Tyler sitting by. He'll

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Speaker 2: take your phone calls.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Tom Or does watching the parade motivate you even

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Speaker 4: more than ever and put you in that angry state

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Speaker 4: of mind. I'm gonna heal at a record rate and

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Speaker 4: that's their one and done championship because I'm coming.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to rehab harder like after

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Speaker 2: day one.

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Speaker 4: Into yourself more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, rehab you kind of have to

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Speaker 2: let it come to you. Sometimes you're gonna attack it

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you go, oh, I

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Speaker 2: made a big mistake and I did that be like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back out there. I'm gonna go out

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Speaker 2: there and play.

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Speaker 2: The doctor would be like, you know, you probably should

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Speaker 2: take some time, and I go, I'm already playing and

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Speaker 2: playing basketball. Yeah, that's not good, And it wasn't. Then

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Speaker 2: I ended up having another surgery like a year and

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Speaker 2: a half later. But Tyrese Haliburton, he'll have the best

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Speaker 2: people there advising him, but hopefully his teammates will visit

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Speaker 2: him often because that's he's going to need some cheering

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Speaker 2: up a little bit. By the way, our buddy Shane

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Speaker 2: gillis he's going to host the espies.

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Speaker 3: What could go wrong a lot?

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Speaker 2: When we saw him in Dublin and then you guys

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Speaker 2: went to see him perform, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you're like, this guy is going to be a star.

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Speaker 2: And then you start to hear the backstory of what happened.

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Speaker 2: It's Saturday Night Live. And then he went back and hosted,

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Speaker 2: and it feels like wherever he goes, he leaves a

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Speaker 2: he'll take some shots that the mothership will be like, uh,

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Speaker 3: I've been in those meetings before, and as.

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Speaker 2: Long as it's not live, you know, like plausibly live

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Speaker 3: But they didn't worry about Bill Murray.

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Speaker 2: When Bill Murray was hosting the SP's and having been

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Speaker 2: John Walsh, who invented Sports Center, he was there and

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Speaker 3: So John was just listening like, Okay, is that bad?

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Speaker 3: Could that be bad?

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Speaker 2: Could we get in trouble for that because when when

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Speaker 2: Will Ferrell got on stage and started making fun of

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Speaker 2: John Elway and Ken Griffy Junior, Kobe was ready to leave,

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Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, things can go sideways. Norm

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Speaker 2: MacDonald to me he was awesome because this Norm just

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Speaker 2: But man, they start going after people in the audience

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Speaker 2: and that I remember at the Mothership, They're like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's the greatest night in sports, Like we have to

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Speaker 2: making fun of people. You did have the emotional moment

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Speaker 2: with Jimmy V and you know that forever changed the SPS.

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Speaker 2: You had Craig Seger, you had Stuart Scott, Robin Roberts,

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Speaker 2: like You've had some important people giving important speeches there.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the SP's have survived, which is shocking

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Speaker 2: because back when we started, we couldn't get anybody to go.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going, how can this be the greatest night

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Speaker 2: in sports if nobody wants to go to this thing?

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Speaker 2: And it felt like if you showed up, you got

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Speaker 2: during a tennis match, and it was the Comeback Athlete

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Speaker 2: Bill Murray and Bill shows up and he doesn't even

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Speaker 2: great because he's Bill Murray. And even Bill goes and

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Speaker 2: the winner is Michael Jordan, and Bill Murray says, but

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Speaker 2: Monica Sells got stabbed. All Mike did is come back

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Speaker 2: to the NBA. But you get a whole lot more

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Speaker 2: than Monica sell Us. And even Bill even said to Michael,

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Speaker 2: it's like, Michael, she got stabbed.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, dude.

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Speaker 2: That's when I knew the voting might be rigged, just

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Speaker 2: a little of it. I got behind the curtain. I go,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute here, if you showed up, got an

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Speaker 6: Just this just in from PR to ESPN.

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Speaker 7: The SPIS is live this year occasion. It's taped. Sometimes

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Speaker 7: it's live. This is a live with Shane Gillen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, not plausibly live.

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Speaker 7: It appears to be actually live.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Wednesday, July sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's the greatest night in sports.

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Speaker 6: Is he a one and donner?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's purposely one and done in this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, probably so. Yes, Oh I said, I wouldn't have cried.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 3: That's good. What about Nate Bargatzi.

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Speaker 2: He seems like he would be a great host for

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Speaker 2: the Spies, Fritzy, you're big fans.

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Speaker 8: Great?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love his delivery and he's very self deprecating about

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Speaker 4: how he doesn't know what he's doing as a husband

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Speaker 4: or a Father's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, it's family oriented his stand

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Speaker 2: up act, right. I don't think he ye different language. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like Brian Reagan, they don't go blue. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Shane Gillis, you're host to the sp Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 9: The first time I saw a clip in Nate Bargatzi,

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Speaker 9: Everyone's seen this clip. He's like, you know, in your

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Speaker 9: twenties year, let's go, We'll go anywhere. I'll go nowhere.

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Speaker 9: Then you get your thirties, he's like, where are we going?

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Speaker 9: You know, how about how you age and you behave

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Speaker 9: differently with your friends.

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Speaker 6: It's a great bit.

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Speaker 2: me see, oh did we get to the pole question?

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Speaker 2: For a hour or two, we have a quick NBA

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Speaker 2: quiz as well.

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Speaker 10: I keep I'm currently like deep diving on Monica Seli's

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Speaker 10: not winning the Spofo come Back Layer after being stabbed, Like,

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Speaker 10: I just can't believe that that's true.

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Speaker 3: She got stabbed? Yeah, like pretty good. Hey, you were nominated.

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Speaker 3: That's an honor.

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Speaker 2: But Michael, Michael came back, just came back to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: He went to play baseball. It's not like he went

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Speaker 2: to Afghanistan. He came back from the minor leagues.

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Speaker 3: What a hero. It's not it's easy to do that.

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Speaker 3: Apparently not. Apparently not.

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Speaker 10: The recent series of Achilles tears in the NBA dot

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Speaker 10: dot coincidence or there's a valid reason right now, sixty

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk to a doctor, Mark addicts, he's been

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Speaker 2: a long time sports orthopedic surgeon. We'll ask him about this,

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Speaker 2: because I don't know, just a coincidence. Joe in La, Hi, Joe,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Good morning? DP? Hi Joe five five eight one fifty. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think you're hit it toward. My question is the

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Speaker 5: Twenty years ago the ACL was a big deal, and

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Speaker 5: hear what the doctor to say about what the achilles

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, all right, thank you, Joe. Yeah, I'm curious

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Speaker 2: his achilles, and he did. Kenny in La Hi, Kenny.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Danny, I got a couple of things for you. First,

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Speaker 11: about an hour ago, you were talking about old line players,

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Speaker 11: all time players, and you were thinking, well, who suffered

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Speaker 11: a rut for achilles. Well, you're also talking about the

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Speaker 11: sixteen ninety seventy Knicks versus Lakers, and of course, as

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Speaker 11: a Laker fan, I was just crushed when the Knicks

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Speaker 11: beat us in Game seven. Of course Wilke had twenty

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Speaker 11: one points and twenty four rebounds in that game and

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Speaker 11: read it for but we couldn't stop Clyde. So the

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Speaker 11: next year as an eight year old, I'm very excited

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Speaker 11: to see the Lakers. Finally we get to see Elgin

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Speaker 11: and Jay and Wilt together. Of course we had sixty

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Speaker 11: seventy one season, two games in Elgin ruptures his achilles

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Speaker 11: and there you go, Oh, I'm great, as you know,

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Speaker 11: twenty seven points the game, fifth all time points per game.

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Speaker 11: And then you also were talking about the Spur excuse me,

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Speaker 11: the OKAC team and having been put to the test

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Speaker 11: with two seven game series, I was taking up the

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Speaker 11: eighty seven eighty eight Lakers where we had to beat

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Speaker 11: Utah Dallas and the Pistons. We barely survived. I was

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Speaker 11: actually at that game seven where we beat the Pistons

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Speaker 11: one O eight to one O five, and that was

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Speaker 11: the last title of Showtime. Should won the next year,

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Speaker 2: But you won one title. That second one will be

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Speaker 2: Vincent Goodwill Junior, the third y'all Who's Sports Senior NBA writer,

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Speaker 2: after doing a deep dive on Kevin Durant going to

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Speaker 2: the Rockets. Why is Kevin Durant on the Rockets?

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Speaker 6: Does he wants to be?

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Speaker 14: I think that's the easy explanations to say. That is

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Speaker 14: That is the art of negotiation, Dan, That is where

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 14: Dominque Wilkins, old man injury. These other guys. It's not

438
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Speaker 14: old Tyre's Halliburton. It is, you know, explosive athlete that's

439
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 14: jumping around. But when you have a calf Andrey remember

440
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 14: Luka Doncic had a calf injury, and Dallas that we

441
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 14: kind of wonder, okay, is he in good enough shape?

442
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 14: And all these other type things. All these injuries aren't

443
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 14: created equal, they aren't birth by the same things, but

444
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Speaker 14: they do produce the same risk, and we have to

445
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Speaker 14: look at them like this is a risk, especially when

446
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Speaker 14: you're playing one hundred games into a season and Dan

447
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 14: the game is moving so fast. That's what you gotta

448
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Speaker 14: be careful.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Vincent Goodwill, he is the Yahu Sports senior

450
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Speaker 2: NBA writer's latest article has to do with Kevin Durant

451
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Speaker 2: with the Rockets. I'm curious about the Spurs if they're

452
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Speaker 2: taking Dylan Harper, so that backcourt's pretty crowded. So I

453
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Speaker 2: got the Rookie of the Year, I got dearon Fox,

454
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Speaker 2: and it feels like somebody is not going to be

455
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Speaker 2: long for San Antonio.

456
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Speaker 3: What are the Spurs gonna do well?

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Speaker 14: Talking to people around the league, the Spurs are the

458
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Speaker 14: team that they're like, Okay, keep an eye on them,

459
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Speaker 14: because the Spurs like to keep things to the best.

460
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Speaker 14: They're not going to go out and telegraph their moves.

461
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Speaker 14: Remember we didn't see the darn Fox trade happening. They

462
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 14: were like they already got they already got a young

463
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Speaker 14: guard there, and then he added another one, right, so

464
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Speaker 14: I wouldn't be surprised, like there have been instances where

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Speaker 14: I don't know if you remember this stand the Phoenix

466
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Speaker 14: Sons of ninety seven had Kevin Johnson, a young Steve Nash,

467
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Speaker 14: and Jason Kidd, and they wound up working out that.

468
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Speaker 14: You know, kJ was a little bit older, Steve Nash

469
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Speaker 14: was a little bit unfounded at the time, and you

470
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Speaker 14: kind of let these things work themselves out. You take

471
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Speaker 14: the best player available. Like I don't. I'm not a

472
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Speaker 14: believer in reaching, but I am a believer in the

473
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Speaker 14: Spurs having number two and number fourteen. I think they

474
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Speaker 14: had number two hoping that Kevin Durant would pick them

475
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Speaker 14: and they would use that as far as draft capital

476
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Speaker 14: in the trade. But now that they don't, I wonder

477
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Speaker 14: if they're going to take I don't see that being

478
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Speaker 14: a tenable thing. But also it is supposed to be

479
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Speaker 14: a positionless league, and that what they tell us. I

480
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Speaker 14: don't believe that, mind you, I don't believe disposition to lead.

481
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Speaker 14: He think that's a.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing though, when you look back on the

483
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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns, you had three Hall of fame point guards.

484
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Speaker 2: I don't think Kj's a Hall of famer, but he

485
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Speaker 2: played like a Hall of famer at times. Jay Kidd

486
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Speaker 2: and Steve Nash. But you're right, nobody knew about Nash.

487
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Speaker 2: I remember being at a practice facility and watching Nash

488
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Speaker 2: and I go, you know that that's the kid from Santa.

489
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Speaker 3: Clara, Like he's he's pretty good.

490
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Speaker 2: And then they've said, well he won't play here, he

491
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Speaker 2: won't start here, and then all of a sudden he

492
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Speaker 2: goes to Dallas and next thing you know, you know,

493
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Speaker 2: he's somebody unique. But you didn't worry about salaries back then, Vincent.

494
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Speaker 2: Now I got dearon Fox. What's he going to cost me?

495
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Speaker 2: Although I get Castle and Harper on you know rookie deals,

496
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Speaker 2: Aaron Fox is going to cost me a lot of money.

497
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Speaker 2: So it feels like he might be the guy Jettison here.

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Speaker 14: Well he just got him.

499
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Speaker 2: Like that's but I think if you knew that you

500
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Speaker 2: were gonna end up with the second pick like I,

501
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't have made the move, probably for him, if

502
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Speaker 2: they knew they were going to be in this situation.

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Speaker 2: I like him, but if I can get younger and

504
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Speaker 2: I don't spend money, I thought they were going to

505
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Speaker 2: get Durant. I thought that that they realized that he

506
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Speaker 2: can help us, he can take pressure, he can be

507
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Speaker 2: a bucket, and but you know they're they're not yet

508
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Speaker 2: where the Rockets are, and the Rockets might be a

509
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: year away. San Antonio feels like maybe two years away

510
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Speaker 2: from being uh oh, here they come.

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Speaker 14: Well, Victor's coming, and I think there's a difference between

512
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Speaker 14: Victor's coming and the Spurs are coming. I think they're

513
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Speaker 14: on two different kind of a little bit different timeline.

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Speaker 3: Will he be the best player in the game in

515
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Speaker 3: five years?

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Speaker 14: If not him, who are you kidding me?

517
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Speaker 3: Well, go just.

518
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Speaker 2: Is gonna be there for a little while, whether you

519
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Speaker 2: believe that, But it feels like, you know, by twenty

520
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Speaker 2: five I think I said that he'll be the best

521
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Speaker 2: player in the sport Victor.

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Speaker 14: I mean, why won't he be the best player in

523
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Speaker 14: the sport two years from now? Why won't he be

524
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Speaker 14: the best player in the sport next year? Like, do

525
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 14: you see what he's doing. He's out there with the monks.

526
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Speaker 14: He looks like Eddie Murphy and the Golden Child. Do

527
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 14: you remember that movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bad movie. That was a bad

529
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Speaker 2: good reference bad movie. But yeah, he's with the Tibetan

530
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Speaker 2: monks there. But yeah, I look, I'm a big fan

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Speaker 2: because he should have been Defensive Player of the Year

532
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Speaker 2: the last two years. But I just wonder can the

533
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Speaker 2: team keep up with him?

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Speaker 14: Is that he's well, he's not going anywhere. And here's

535
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Speaker 14: the thing.

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Speaker 2: No, but the talent around him, can they keep up

537
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Speaker 2: with him as he develops? So castle can he shoot better?

538
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Speaker 2: Is Harper going to be you know, true go to guy?

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Speaker 2: Who else do you have on that team who's going

540
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Speaker 2: to help you?

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Speaker 3: You know? So that that would be my only concern

542
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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 14: No, I don't disagree with you. I mean I think

544
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Speaker 14: they have pieces that you can move. The Jeremy Sohans,

545
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 14: the Keldon Johnson's guys like that that you if you're

546
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Speaker 14: talking about packaging players and figuring stuff out, if you

547
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Speaker 14: want to press the fast forward button. But until a

548
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 14: player goes into his first rookie extension, And if you

549
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Speaker 14: think about this, like the NFL, where if you get

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Speaker 14: a quarterback on a rookie contract and you start putting

551
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Speaker 14: in those veteran pieces around him, like Seattle deal with

552
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 14: Russell Wilson like a decade ago, that's what the NBA

553
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 14: is turning into now, where if you get a guy

554
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Speaker 14: on the first contract or the first rookie extension, that's

555
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Speaker 14: when you start building a championship team. That's why you

556
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Speaker 14: have all these teams sort of positioning themselves to make

557
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Speaker 14: runs now before guys get really really expensive. I wouldn't

558
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Speaker 14: be surprised if the San Antonio Spurs put all their

559
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 14: chips to the center of the table, but traditionally that's

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Speaker 14: not how they have operated.

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Speaker 2: All Right, what's the better version of Michael Jordan, Young

562
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Speaker 2: Mike or old Mike or veteran or our veteran Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you five years of the next five years.

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Speaker 14: Oh, it's that middle five. It is. It is eighty

565
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Speaker 14: nine to ninety three Michael Jordan, and I don't think

566
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Speaker 14: it's particularly close. Like in eighty nine, he was scary,

567
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Speaker 14: just like the triple doubles, and he was going into

568
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Speaker 14: his body and he took that really not good bulls

569
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Speaker 14: seam to the Eastern Conference Finals where he took two

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Speaker 14: games off of a Detroit team that didn't lose to

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Speaker 14: anybody else that season that series, and then the next

572
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 14: year you could see he was really coming and really

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Speaker 14: going to show up. And then you went when you

574
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Speaker 14: run off three in a row, and I know that

575
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Speaker 14: the bad boys were old and Magic carried a bunch

576
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Speaker 14: of dudes who were Magic and the who's who of

577
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Speaker 14: who in nineteen ninety one to the NBA Finals. He

578
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 14: didn't have a direct equal because of len bias and

579
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Speaker 14: because of the calendar. But there was no greater player

580
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Speaker 14: we've ever seen in this league's history besides Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 14: Between nineteen eight, in nineteen ninety three now the nineteen

582
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Speaker 14: ninety seven Michael Jordan, the adult grown Michael Jordan. That

583
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Speaker 14: guy put up the best NBA Finals we've ever seen. Legit,

584
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Speaker 14: from game to game, from the flu game to the

585
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Speaker 14: triple double to the game winner in Game one. Performance

586
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Speaker 14: by performance, that's the best NBA Finals we've ever seen.

587
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Speaker 14: As far as game to game effect. That was a

588
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Speaker 14: thirty two to thirty three year old Michael jo. Okay,

589
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 14: you can, you can, you can take a pick?

590
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Speaker 3: Okay?

591
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Speaker 2: Is Michael the first and second best player of all time?

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Speaker 2: If I look at what he was in eighty nine

593
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Speaker 2: and what he was in ninety six ninety seven.

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Speaker 14: Well, well, I will tell you this, and this is

595
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Speaker 14: what's something someone told me, so it's not original. Michael

596
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Speaker 14: Jordan is so great he went into the Hall of

597
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Speaker 14: Fame as two players himself and Scottie Pippen.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, that's cold blooded.

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Speaker 14: I am from Detroit, Dan. No, we do, we do,

600
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Speaker 14: we do call Scotty sitting around here.

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00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: Gilbert Arenas said that he can't believe that people treat

602
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Speaker 2: Kobe like he was his sidekick when he was with

603
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: Shaq in that three peet. There is that fair to

604
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: say that he shouldn't have been viewed as Shaq's sidekick.

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Speaker 14: I think the problem is revisionist history has sort of

606
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 14: made people go to the stat sheet and said, man,

607
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 14: Tracy McGrady was a really good player. He could have

608
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 14: done what Kobe did. No, he couldn't have like Kobe

609
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 14: actually carried the Lakers in some of those playoffs series. Now,

610
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Speaker 14: two thousand, Kobe wasn't fully grown. He was still twenty

611
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Speaker 14: one years I think twenty two years old, and he

612
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 14: was still battling a little bit of inconsistency and find himself.

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Speaker 14: But by two thousand and one, no no, no, no, no, no,

614
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Speaker 14: no no no. By two thousand and one, he was

615
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Speaker 14: arguably the best player in the game. Like the way

616
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 14: he dominated that San Antonio Spurs series in the Western

617
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 14: Conference Finals where he was taking forty point games on

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Speaker 14: the road. Again, Tim Duncan and David Robinson and going

619
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Speaker 14: to the basket and dunking on them. No, no, no, there

620
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 14: is as much as there is dan a big gap

621
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Speaker 14: between Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. And I think there

622
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 14: is a huge gap between those two players. There's even

623
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Speaker 14: as greater of a gap between Kobe Bryant and anybody

624
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Speaker 14: else that you feel like you can put in those spots.

625
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 14: Because Shaquille O'Neal needed somebody, and he just didn't need

626
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 14: a Vince Card or Tracy McGrady. Like those guys were great,

627
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 14: great players, But Kobe had an appetite and all around

628
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 14: complete game, especially defensively where he would really get after it.

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Speaker 14: I think, you know, it's funny when he died, it

630
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 14: was almost like there was an overarching sort of reach

631
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Speaker 14: to put him in a certain spot. And now all

632
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 14: of a sudden, we're going to downplay. No, no, no,

633
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Speaker 14: can we just ring it a little bit to the middle.

634
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 14: I'm not going to say Kobe Bryant's rings didn't count,

635
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 14: like if you're not the number one guy, don't count whatever,

636
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Speaker 14: Because Magic Johnson played with Kareem al Dula Jabbar, whose

637
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 14: rings were those in nineteen eighty nine, eight two eighty five, Like,

638
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 14: I don't want to parse that and turn that discussion

639
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Speaker 14: into something that is not.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this and I'll leave you with this with

641
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: OKAC that I know we want to fast track them

642
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: to being a great team of all time, which they're not. Uh,

643
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: you know, you went to Game seven twice. You had

644
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: to hold off the biggest underdog in the last twenty

645
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: five years according to the odds makers. It took a

646
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: guy blowing out his achilles.

647
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Speaker 3: You hold on, you won.

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Speaker 2: We might look differently at this OKC team in three

649
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: years with what happens, they could be the Toronto Raptors,

650
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: or they might have some sustainability here, which I hope

651
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: they do and they probably should. But I think we

652
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Speaker 2: want to have that coronation of this is one of

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Speaker 2: the great teams of all time, great regular season. Denver

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Speaker 2: took them to seven, Indiana took them to seven. And

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Speaker 2: that's why I would just say, enjoy, enjoy your parade,

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Speaker 2: enjoy your title. Don't put them in there with the

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Speaker 2: one Lakers or the you know, eighty six Celtics or

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Speaker 2: you know they're not there.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 14: What do you think I think the difference between all

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Speaker 14: of those teams that you mentioned is some of the

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Speaker 14: single seasons and greatest teams. Eighty six Celtics, eighty seven Lakers,

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Speaker 14: eighty three, seventy six Ers that only won one championship,

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Speaker 14: oh one Lakers. All those teams have gone through multiple

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Speaker 14: playoff runs, winning, losing everything else. This is their second

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Speaker 14: playoff run together, Dan, And that's where you can look

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Speaker 14: at it and say, man, do they still have more

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Speaker 14: room to grow that? And you don't know in today's NBA,

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Speaker 14: especially with them being in Oklahoma City, and we don't

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Speaker 14: know how they're going to handle Jalen Williams coming up

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Speaker 14: for a Max, chet Holmgren coming up for a Max

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Speaker 14: and having all those draft picks and figuring out the

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Speaker 14: economics of the game there. But we've had seven different

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Speaker 14: champions in the last seven years. Then we say the

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Speaker 14: same thing about Milwaukee. Oh, they're going to go on

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Speaker 14: a run. Boston, they're going to go on a run.

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Speaker 14: Denver they got Nicola Yokis the best player in the game,

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Speaker 14: going to go on a run. The game moves faster

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Speaker 14: than ever, quicker than ever. I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 14: they are one of the best single season teams we've

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Speaker 14: ever seen. It remains to be seen if they have

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Speaker 14: as long as a runway. What if, Dan, they are

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Speaker 14: the San Antonio Spurs where they never go back to back,

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Speaker 14: but they win championships over a fifteen year period. Where

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Speaker 14: the ninety nine team looks totally different than the old

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Speaker 14: seventeen looks totally different than the twenty fourteen team, but

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Speaker 14: there's a common denominator and a common threat there. We

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Speaker 14: would still say they are wildly successful, especially in today's NBA.

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Speaker 2: Will said Vincent Goodwill y'allho's sports senior NBA writer, host

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Speaker 2: of The Good Word podcast on Yahoo's Sports and Serious

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Speaker 2: XM NBA host.

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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you so always. Thank you, Bell always.

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Speaker 14: I love the Living for the City.

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, little Stevie Wonder Living for the City.

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Speaker 2: Got a little T shirt going on there. I see

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Speaker 2: what you're doing. Thank you, Vince. All right, Well, take

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Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, we play fill in

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Speaker 2: the blank, have an Achilles terror theory, and more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Time to play Phil in the blank. I will read

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Speaker 2: something and then you Phil in the blank. Oklahoma City's

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Speaker 2: future is blank Todd sga, Okay, Seaton.

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Speaker 3: It starts now. Marvin full of draft picks.

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Speaker 6: Paul not that simple.

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Speaker 2: I'll say promising championship parades are blank Todd.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with whatever tech parades or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Seaton fun, Marvin Long, Paul sloppy.

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Speaker 2: I'll say communal Kevin Durant's legacy is going to be

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Speaker 2: blank Ton tarnished.

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Speaker 4: He continues to play.

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Speaker 3: Misinterpreted Marvin complex, all.

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Speaker 6: Full of semantics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to go complex too.

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Speaker 2: Sports in late June early July is Blank Todd, desperate viewing.

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Speaker 3: Setan.

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Speaker 2: Spars, Marvin tough for the job, Paully relaxing. I would

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Speaker 2: say vacation worthy. The sexy NFL team in August will

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Speaker 2: be blank Todd.

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Speaker 4: The Denver Broncos, you, I think they could win the

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Speaker 4: FC West. And I don't want to get into pies

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Speaker 4: in the face, but I think the Broncos A lot

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Speaker 4: of a lot of people in the so called experts

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Speaker 4: are into Denver.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Fritzy is right on on this. It doesn't It's

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Speaker 9: not just because he likes them. Every year, a couple

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Speaker 9: of teams get picked to be the focal point team

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Speaker 9: in August that they could surprise people. Denver's one of.

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Speaker 2: Them, Satan, What about you. Sexy NFL team in August.

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Speaker 3: Is the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Well, their quarterback just got married over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Marvin the Green Bay Packers, Paul the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: The sexy NFL team in August will be the Bears.

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Speaker 2: The Bears one degree weather is blank, Todd uncomfortable, Seaton hot, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: Really hot, Paul debilitating.

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Speaker 3: Really really hot.

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Speaker 6: Sorry I have gone there.

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Speaker 3: That's fill in the blank. We did it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, uh Angela and Oklahoma, Hi Angela, what's on your

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Speaker 2: mind today?

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Speaker 16: Good morning? First of all, I wanted to say that

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Speaker 16: was the best interview, one of the best interviews with Goodwill.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 16: Second of all, I have to say that Halliburton, you're

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Speaker 16: in our thoughts and prayers. Okay, Well, and then finally

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Speaker 16: let's go okay, very I'm excited and excited. So I

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Speaker 16: wrote two points, one that was in case we lost,

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Speaker 16: and the one that I'm gonna read you right now.

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Speaker 16: It's called oh to Oklahoma, Sorry, oh to Loud City.

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Speaker 16: Are you ready, dah sure, Look at that my thunder

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Speaker 16: winds filling greatest champions. We came to work hard and

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Speaker 16: fight every single day and night. Coaches SGA and the

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Speaker 16: boys standing tall with so much poise. Oh Dan, can't

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Speaker 16: wait for next year. Let's go thunder is what will cheers?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: That's that Angelo and Oklahoma. She actually had words that

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Speaker 2: Ryan with one another.

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Speaker 4: I was well done and poetic.

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Speaker 3: I love to create a novel approach there Axel rhymes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Jimmy in Chicago, try to squeeze you in here,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Hey.

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Speaker 15: Then one of the time in on Marvin's Jordan question

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Speaker 15: in eighty eight, amazing accomplishments that year, he was MVP,

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Speaker 15: Defensive Player of the Year, also Game MVP, as well

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Speaker 15: as scoring leader. I was only five at the time though,

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Speaker 15: so didn't that was before my time, but I watched

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Speaker 15: every game in the ninety three season. That year, I

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Speaker 15: call it the Terminator year. He was just truly unstoppable.

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Speaker 15: Forty one points per game in the finals, highest average

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Speaker 15: in the finals for that and I just think that

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Speaker 15: if he didn't retire, they would have definitely won a

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Speaker 15: fourth championship as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably so,