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Speaker 1: You guys are congratulations first and foremost on being legends

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Speaker 1: And we and we both did it by pursuing our passions.

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Speaker 1: the beautiful thought of namas day. The light in me

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Speaker 1: it feels comfortable, you can gently float your eyes open.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Dev Dropping Jim's podcast on The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: with all my heart. I love you so much, and everybody,

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