1 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, I may go out him. You know that, 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: or maybe you don't. Maybe this is your first time 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: tuning in. If it is welcome, I'm so glad you're here. 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: All I'm doing is running my mouth for an hour 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: or more, and somehow. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: People are interested in listening to that. God bless you all. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Can I just say that this podcast is meant to connect, inspire, 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: maybe bring you a little joy. Also, my hope is 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: that we could just make the world a better place, 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: and so I have little silly ideas as to how 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: to do that. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Right. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: So, today I've been thinking a lot about those people. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: We all have those people in our lives who send 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: us memes and reels on Instagram and TikTok's just all 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: day long, and it's like you can't keep up. You 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: can't keep up. Even right now, I'm getting sweaty thinking 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: about it. I have friends whom I'm like, I know 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: there are unread messages in my Instagram account because I 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: just can't keep up with the memes and the reels. 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I can't keep up, and it's like NonStop. It's like 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: has Ai taken over my friend? Or is my friend 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: really doing this? How are they keeping up? At this pace, 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: it seems near impossible, certainly impossible for me to watch 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: them all because it's not just one person for me, 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: it's multiple people. But I know everyone has at least one. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: But imagine you have multiple friends doing that, how and 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: how stressful? And they go, did you watch the thing 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: I sent you? Did you watch that thing? Did you 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: see that thing? 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, which one? Which one? You've sent? So many? 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: My god, I'm sweating right now. I'm really sweating. You 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: can't see. I won't show you, but I'm kind of 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: sweating at the thought. Chill down my spine as well. 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: It's they go together, I guys, it's a lot. Think 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: about the way you are inundating. 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: It's giving spam. 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you say to your friend, hey, friend, you're giving 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: spam because that's what it's giving. And it feels stressful. 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: And of course, there are worse things in the world. Guys, 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: there are always worse things in the world. I want 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: to be very clear that I am aware of that. 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: But boy, oh boy, getting an endless stream of reels 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: is so stressful because you want to engage with your friend. 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't want my friends to feel like I'm ignoring them. 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: I want to be able to laugh and have shared 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: contact with them. But I'm like, how are you watching 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: all of these things and then also being productive in 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: your day? Because I can tell you right now, to 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: watch all the memes and reels you've sent me, I 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: would have to carve out time, meaningful time. This isn't 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: like a casual. I'm having to carve out real time. 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: It's too much and when they have it so some friends, 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I used to double tap just to be like, Okay, 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: yeah I watched it, like to acknowledge receipt right and 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: hope that they thought that that meant I watched it. 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: And then I realized, oh no, I can't double tap 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: anymore because I'm encouraging them. That's positive affirmation. It's a 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: literal red heart, right, So I have chilled on even 60 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: clicking on them. And I'm like, I guess you're free 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: to send them to me, but I do not have 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: to watch, and I will watch at my leisure, and 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: my leisure damn near doesn't exist, So I will not watch, 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: I guess, is what I'm trying to say. But if 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: you tell me one's really really really really really good, 66 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I will tap in. And if I tap in and 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: watch that one, and it's not really really really really good. 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Like you promise, honey, you're dead. You can never. Your 69 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: word is not bond. Your word means nothing. And I 70 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: won't watch another one of your reels for some time. 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: I'll put you on ice for a little bit punishment 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: time out. I'm not watching anything you send me, so anyway, 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I just know I actually maybe on the podcast one 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: day down the line, I'll like get to sit with 75 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: one of those people who sends memes and reels all 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: day and ask them all the questions I have for them, 77 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: and one of which being how do you have the 78 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: time to keep up with this? Because I know you're 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: not just sending them to me. Sometimes you can tell 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: someone sent them to multiple people, right, you can say 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: in a very diabolical way. Instagram allows you to select 82 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: multiple people and send separately. And sometimes that's very obvious 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: to me because every once in a while a person 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: sending them to me is someone I'm like, we've barely 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: ever had a conversation, but you're like sending memes and reels. 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: It's very interesting. I understand it to be a way 87 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to connect, but I think we've gotten I think we've 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: gotten away from ourselves people. 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: And I just want to reel us back. Oh you 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: see what I did there? I didn't mean to. 91 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: No, And is it real us back in or rain 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: us back in? I don't know, honey, it's my podcast. 93 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Tell me in the comments what I did wrong. I 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: know you will, and that's fine, and that's fine. 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: Today. 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: Something I'm gonna do very right though, is talk to 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Wanda Sykes, the legend that she is. 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. So here we are. My next guest 99 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: is an absolute legend. Do you understand? 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Actress, writer, comedian, producer, coming up in the final season 101 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: of The Upshaws this year and going on tour with 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: the Please and Thank You tour across the country. I 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: just hit the mic. 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm hyping. I'm so excited. It's Wanda Sykes. Yay, thank you, Yes, 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: make some noise for what makes them real. Let's hear it. 106 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: Wanda Sykes in the building? Are you kidding me? Absolute legend? 107 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: One of my favorites. 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: My assistant texting me this morning was I have a 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: great time with miss Wanda. She's absolutely one of my favorites. 110 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like everyone says that about you. 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: That's so sweet, but you would deserve it. You've been 112 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: working hard. I've been out here. I've been out here 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: a long time. How are you with compliments in general? 114 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm I'm okay. I sometimes I you know, I will, 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I will deflect it, go back to Okay, what's you 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: up to? Yeah? 117 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: So if I was like I like your blouse, which 118 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: I do, how would you you just say thank you? 119 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Thank you? Okay? And we wouldn't tried to. I used to, 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: And sometime I have to go I didn't pick it out. Somebody, 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: somebody addressed me. See, it always. 122 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Comes like, yeah, it was just ten dollars that you 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: could get what I'm working on. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm 124 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm working on also being like thank you and then 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's like where does the conversation 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: go from there? So then I feel responsible for making. 127 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: It go somewhere else? 128 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Right, Anyway, I have to tell you you're a legend again. 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: I just just listen. I'm making you uncomfortable. I just 130 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: feel so honored to have you here. 131 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, happy to be here. I'm so glad. Now, 132 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: wonder do you have anything anyone you want to say? 133 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: Thank you too? I want to say thank you because 134 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: I thought thanks, I should say thanks. Yeah, I want 135 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: to say thanks to you. And I thought about this first. 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: I was I was gonna say something funny because I 137 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: took a really good poop this morning. Can I ask 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: about it? Can I ask about it? 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: We don't have the heart, but can I ask about it? 140 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: Was it the one where you didn't have to wipe after? 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, when they come out clean? You guys know 142 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. You've never had one where you 143 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: don't have to wipe after to. 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Be sure that? That was amazing, right, it was amazing. 145 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: I'll just say it was amazing. You don't want to 146 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: get what I want to have details, but it was 147 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: just it just caught me off guard, like I didn't 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: know it was, oh oh wow, Like did you feel 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: lighter much? I know that. Yeah, So that's that was 150 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: my original. I thought about it, and I said, no, 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: I want to think, and don't you assholes cut this out? 152 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: What I'm about to really think? I'm gonna think my 153 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: chiefest staff Susan show. Okay, he is amazing. Uh, just 154 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, just takes cap everything just from the smallest 155 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: detail to the I mean the largest thing. Hey, my 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: sixties birthday. Okay, I'll plan it for you, you know, 157 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: just anything and just she just does such a great 158 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: job and I'm just so just blessed to have her. 159 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Susan, chief of staff for ES Psychs. We 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: have to say thanks to you. 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: I love to hear that because I imagine a person 162 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: in a position like you, and I am in some 163 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: stage of my career right now and can feel so 164 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: overwhelmed at times, and so to have someone like Susan, 165 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: like I already thought of it. 166 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: Yes, it feels like a dream. That sounds like a 167 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: dream though. Yeah. They can look at you and go, okay, this, 168 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: she's overwhelmed, So let me do something extra. Let me 169 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: you know, I'm want to take this off and we'll 170 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: do that next week. That nice. Nice? Did you grow 171 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: up with that kind of care? Oh? Hell, okay, neither 172 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: did I. I just asked to be cute to be 173 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: hoa okay, all right, So it's it's nice to have 174 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: a Susan. What was growing up like for you? Growing up? 175 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: My dad was in the in the army military and 176 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: and uh my mom uh she was like worked at 177 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: a newspaper like the classified ass section. And but when 178 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: we moved, she stayed home and just got us settled 179 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: because we know we made that huge move from Virginia 180 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: to Maryland. 181 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: But I'm from the yeah, Baltimore and yeah, but you 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: know what about the d m V. And I don't 183 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: know if this is controversial, Baltimore doesn't feel like they're 184 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: a part of it. I know they feel like it's 185 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: southern Maryland, DC and Virginia, right, And so people say 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: it to me there, I'm like, but Baltimore, Maryland's Baltimore, 187 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Comma Maryland, right. 188 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: But I'm like, but I also am a little bit 189 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: like that where. 190 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, when you say DMV, you're not including 191 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,359 Speaker 1: me and my people exactly. 192 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: That's not right. It's not but it's not right because 193 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: we're a part of it. It's like they cut Maryland 194 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: off at like Silver Spring, Yes, exactly they do. That's 195 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: exactly where. That's exactly where, and it's like that's Baltimore, 196 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: like like open Marlboro, that's the MV. But Laurel MV. Laurel. 197 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: Let's name all the towns because I don't want to 198 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: show off exactly that's there. Do you have another one? 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: And out come on at Suitland, Suitland. But you know what, 200 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: I think, glenn Burnie is what blew it. And everybody's like, nah, 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: we don't want we don't want to. We're not claiming 202 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Burnie because we don't claim glen Burney. Say nobody claims 203 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: glen Burney. Say my mom lived in Glenburnie three years ago. 204 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: I didn't tell anybody. I said, yeah, just moved out 205 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: of Baltimore. They're like, where, and I was like, somewhere 206 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: from somewhere. 207 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Dundalk, Oh, Dundalk. Oh my goodness. 208 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: And my brother so I grew up with people who 209 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: grew up in Dundalk, Like so dun Dog wasn't far 210 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: from us, but me and my brother would joke a lot, 211 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: and this is messed up. I love you, Baltimore, Baltimore County. 212 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: I love all of these city, but my brother and 213 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: I used to joke me, like, you're from Dundalk. 214 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: Neither of us were from Dundalk, but it was like 215 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: an insult. 216 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: And then last season on SNL, somebody wrote a sketch 217 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm at table read I'm not. I'm in the sketch, 218 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I was not involved in the writing 219 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of it. Someone from Maryland was though, but someone wrote 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: a sketch and in the sketch and it goes to 221 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: air there someone goes, oh, she's from Dundalk. 222 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: And I was at table losing it. 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: Yes, but everyone was laughing by the way, and I 224 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: was like, but you guys don't understand. That's really specific. 225 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: I love that, you know, Dundale. That was the whole 226 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: thing with me and my brother. You're from Dundalk. 227 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: I love that. 228 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So yes, that is a big move though because 229 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore to southern Maryland, we're not even the same state 230 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: in our minds, like they don't like us. 231 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if what about Baltimore County is that 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: considered DMVM from Baltimore County, but that should be dining, 233 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: you know, because it's Baltimore though it's not the county 234 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: when you out in the county. I'm from county when 235 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: you're out in the county, out in the county. So 236 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: that's that's the that's but it's still Baltimore. 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: So my address growing up it was Baltimore, Common Maryland 238 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: two and two three. Then I won't say the number. 239 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: People can figure out the rest. But and also what 240 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: would that if I said it out loud. 241 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: Oh that I didn't do. 242 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter I should say it. I'm not going 243 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: to that, I refuse. But we feel separate from the 244 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: rest of Maryland. And for you to move from big 245 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: move from Maryland to Virginia, big leap when they're Virginia 246 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: to Maryland, Virginia to Maryland. Excuse me, what happened in 247 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: the family? 248 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh we were around white people. Oh yeah, so there's 249 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: more white people in Maryland. Well where we lived, I 250 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: mean in Virginia we lived, you know, it was just 251 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: around black people and then started so I saw white 252 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: people at school. And then we moved to Virginia, I 253 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: mean moved to Maryland. We lived in this neighborhood that 254 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: was just developing, and there was only one other black 255 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 2: family on our streets. So it was like, wow, it's 256 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: a lot of white Oh my god, how did it feel? 257 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: And also what part of Maryland now that we're getting 258 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: very specific today, just remember. 259 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: My dad was stationed at Fort me So we were 260 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: in Gambrels County. Okay, I know county. Never heard of Gambrelsah, 261 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: but I'm from Yeah, it's like Cton, Okay. Yeah, I 262 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: know that. Okay, so you saw white people and how 263 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: did that feel? It was? It was fine, okay, ended 264 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: up being all right, it's all right. Yeah. I mean 265 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: we didn't really think about about it too much, so 266 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: it was like just and I think that's how how 267 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: it works. It's like we get there and it's like, okay, 268 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: cool white people, and even go oh, but how would 269 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: they feel about us? Right, that's what it is. If 270 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: they're cool, cool, if there's no thrief, there's no brief. 271 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: And so they were cool. They were cool for like 272 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: one family. One family wasn't cool. They were straight up. 273 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Just oh they were yeah, and you hate to see it, frankly, 274 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you do hate to see there's God, it feels like 275 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: in every one of those neighborhoods. We had one in 276 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: my neighborhood that I was in a new development to 277 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: in Baltimore County, and we had one in my neighborhood 278 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: who had. 279 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: The Confederate flag. 280 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, one of those, right, and so, but 281 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: always one gotta be one. It's gotta be one. 282 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: It's not like you know, they're not around, they're still here. 283 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: The shadows. 284 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: They're pretending to be the other kind and they're that 285 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: kind anyway, you follow, you do follow, Okay, so we do. 286 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a Maryland girl thing, but again I'm not. 287 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm technically you say I am Maryland, yes, because it's 288 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm Baltimore County. 289 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: Okay. And this is a big review. 290 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: This is very vulnerable for me to say from the 291 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: county publicly because there's a lot of people gonna disown 292 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: me today because it's the whole thing. I'm not from 293 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore City. So then they go, then you're not from Baltimore, 294 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: but I am anyway. 295 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: Which you're you're part of the DMV though, Okay, so 296 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: I'll be part of the family. Thank you. All Right, 297 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: it's official. I said it, and so it is. Wanda 298 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: psych said it, and that's law. Period. So growing up, 299 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: you go to Maryland, you're in Gambres. Your dad is around, yes, 300 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: and he is not necessarily the gentlest given military Because 301 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: when I was like, did you get that kind of 302 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: care growing up that Susan's giving, you were like, hell nah, 303 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: So what was it like the dynamic with you and 304 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: your parents? My dad was well, first of all, there 305 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: you know, the black people from Virginia grew up in 306 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: you know, Jim Crow South and all. So they there's 307 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: already a you know, a strictness or conservatism about them, right, 308 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: you know, church and all. So that part stayed. But 309 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: as far as the job, I don't. I don't. My 310 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: dad didn't bring the military home like he wanted us 311 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: to live off base. We didn't live on you know, 312 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: on base. So he was good about not, you know, 313 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: not playing military at home. 314 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Why do you think he wanted you to live off base. 315 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Was it so that he there was a separation between 316 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: his vibe at work and his vibe at home. 317 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: I think so, I think so, I think, you know, 318 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: maybe he also was like I'm not being military all day, 319 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, four seven walking around whatever, you know. Yeah, 320 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: and also they got a housing allowance if you live 321 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: off base. And my parents are very smart when it 322 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: comes to you know, uh, finances, finance, so I think 323 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: he was like, oh, I can get a house with 324 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: this boom boom, you know. Smart. 325 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so they did know the finance yecause I'll tell 326 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: you that that's another thing I didn't learn growing up, 327 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: anything about finances. 328 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: They don't teach you that in school. 329 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: And then then if you don't really learn that at home, right, 330 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: because in school they're teaching you like long division and 331 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: reading Ernest Hemingway, which is great. But then I'm like, 332 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: what about how to save my money and make it 333 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: work for me? So that's cool that you got that. 334 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: How many siblings do you have? 335 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: Just want one older brother? Were you too close? Yeah? Okay, yes, right, 336 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: that's beautiful, and then your mom we can go forever 337 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: not you know, and then tapping do you have friends 338 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: like that who you liked without talking to each other? 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: And then it's like, right, yeah, have you had friends 340 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: who respond poorly to your absence for an extended period 341 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: of time? And then trying to drop back in, Oh, 342 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean. 343 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think. I don't No, that hasn't happened. 344 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: You are blessed is a highly favorite. I'm trying to think, No, 345 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: it hasn't happened. Wow, Yeah, that's incredible. 346 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I feel like so well, I feel like everyone I 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: everyone I know has at least one person who was 348 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: like they didn't do well with the life. I'm adulting. 349 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Life happens. Yeah, we get busy, let's tap back in. 350 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: There's everyone has I feel like a tale of there 351 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: was that one person who didn't get it that like, 352 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: we're adults and we get busy and we'll tap back 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: in as soon as we're able because some people are cleaning. 354 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: I love that you have lived a blessed the barb 355 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 2: being that long. I'm like, you are blessed. And your 356 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: dynamic with your mom is what, how would you describe 357 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: it or growing up? What was it like? Because my 358 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: mom and I we've always been pretty close. Yeah, it's that. Yeah, 359 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: we've always been We've always been pretty close. I mean 360 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: there was a moment when there was like, yeah, we 361 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: kind of had some issues and that and that all 362 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: had to do with you know, me coming out that 363 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: that was hard for them. So but yeah, we're cool. Now. 364 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: We found this thing. Now we both love to go 365 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: to the casino. Yeah, and I usually just when I 366 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: will go to the casino, I will play the table 367 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: games and my mom plays the slots. But so when 368 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: I go visit and we go to the casino, I 369 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: want to talk to her. We want to we wanted 370 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: so I started, let me say do this bullsh right right, 371 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: and now I'm hooked. You're hooked now too. It's contagious 372 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm not do you do Vegas at all? Ever? Yes, see, 373 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't like Vegas, and maybe if I gambled, I 374 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: would like Vegas. Oh yeah, that's the only thing. You 375 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: go to Vegas to gamble or if you just go 376 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: to see a show, great shows in Vegas. Yes, and eat. 377 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the food is good in Vegas. I will give 378 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: it to them. I will give it to them for that. 379 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: The Vegas food, I'm like, they don't play like I 380 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: don't love breakfast, but the breakfast at the hotels is busty, crazy. 381 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: It's so good. So when how old were you when 382 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: you came out? 383 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 384 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: God, trying to take you way back, because I want 385 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: to know I was, oh, oh, I know it was. 386 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: It was right after the election when I was like 387 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: out out and that was what that was like till 388 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. I guess there was a two 389 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: thousand and nine November fifteenth, I want to say, now, 390 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: was that right at the Prop eight passing on Probert? 391 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: It was a national day of I don't even know 392 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: what day of the week it is today, so you 393 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: know it's eight. It was two thousand and eight. 394 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so you were a grown woman, grown woman coming 395 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: out and then it created attention in a dynamic with 396 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: your mom, which makes sense. I understand how that it 397 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: had to be my forties. 398 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: I was probably forty. 399 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like grown, making your own money, have a 400 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: name for yourself, celebrated by all of us, all of 401 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: our favorite and then coming out to your mom and 402 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: then it creates a dynamic. Was it a conversation that 403 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: was it like one conversation and then she was like 404 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand and I don't accept. 405 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like she like just fell apart, broke 406 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: a heart. And it was because I told her before. 407 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: You know, I probably told her maybe maybe four years before, okay, 408 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: and she, yeah, she just had a big just just 409 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: to break down and why, God, what did I do? 410 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, really, you're gonna make this about you? Right, 411 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: maybe it's about you? Why is she bringing now you're 412 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: comforting her? What did Yeah? And I was like I can't. 413 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: I can't do this. I can't do right, I can't write. 414 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: So she could have been an actress almost, it's given. 415 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: I would have watched that, like, God, I've had one 416 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: breakdown like that, and I I couldn't stop myself from 417 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: having it right And in real time. It's a crazy 418 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: story because I was freezing my eggs and they were 419 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: supposed to put They give you like a box of 420 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: just needles, and I'm not in syringes to prepare. You're 421 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: in charge, but you basically become a nurse, which I 422 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: think is kind of messed up. I think that's a 423 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility for a person. So they send you 424 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: with all these things and you don't know what any 425 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: of it is because you're not a nurse. So you're like, 426 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. They told me get five of this thing. 427 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: You go call this pharmacy to say fill this prescription 428 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: from this clinic, the fertility clinic or whatever. And they 429 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: gave me a box of stuff. I was like, presumably 430 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: all of the things are here, because I don't know 431 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: what any of it is. It's like reading foreign language. 432 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: Okay. 433 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: So on the last day, I've done everything diligently. I 434 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: even left a dinner party once to go give myself 435 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: my shot right at seven pm. 436 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I'll be back, gotta go give myself 437 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: a shot in. 438 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: The belly, and so so diligent. And on the last 439 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: day where I went, you're supposed to do two shots 440 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: on the last day, right before they do the retrieval 441 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: the next day, and I go to and I was like, well, 442 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: thank god, I haven't had any moments because I know 443 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm full of hormones and I've been told I could 444 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: get emotional. I'm like, I haven't gotten emotional. Well, I 445 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: go to look in the fridge on the last day 446 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: and it's ten forty five when I'm supposed to give 447 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: myself the shot PM. 448 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: I opened. 449 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: There's one shot in there. There's like one thing, and 450 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: they had given me multi to pull up the thing, 451 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: the one version, so I didn't notice that this other 452 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: injection was not in there. 453 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: Wanda. 454 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: I was like your mom that day, why god, I 455 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: think I just think. I called my sister and I 456 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: remember sliding down the wall and had this awareness like 457 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: you're doing too much, but I couldn't stop it. I 458 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: was like, you're being so dramatic, but I could not 459 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: get myself to stop. 460 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: I was like, the other shot is missing. But again, 461 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: like your mother, I've made this about me and we're 462 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: gonna go back to you. Ok I enjoyed it. 463 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: Was your brother, supportive of you always. Okay, okay. You 464 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: seem to have a lot of grace though, does that? 465 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: See MACI because you have to, you know, it's. 466 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: You do. 467 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: You have to give people grace exactly how you know 468 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: grace has been given to you. So I yeah, I 469 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: try to do that and that makes sense. Yeah, let people, 470 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: let people work through this stuff and you're patient that 471 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: Oh no, well I am. I am to an extent, 472 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: you know. Uh, but my patience isn't I want to 473 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: sit here and be patient with them. My patient is, girl, 474 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: I haint got time for that, right, That's that's my patience. Okay, 475 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: that's why I'm gonna let you deal with d I 476 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: got time I don't have, but I love it. 477 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: It's boundaries though, and then people always kind of come around, 478 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: right they always do. 479 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: That's really beautiful. Yeah, you have kids wander yes, okay, 480 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: how many twins? Twins? Sixteen year olds old? Are they driving? Yeah? 481 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: They just got their learners permit and my daughter's driving. 482 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: Uh and but my son he's off doing other stuff 483 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: right now. He doesn't worry about driving. He's not worried 484 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: about driving. 485 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: I always find that so interesting because when I was 486 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: in Maryland, is fifteen and nine months you could get 487 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: your perm, you remember, Okay, I at fifteen and nine months, 488 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: like Mayday's March tenth, April tenth. 489 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: I was there, Yeah, is that correct? Fifteen and nine months. 490 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing math wrong. But anyway, point is fifteen and 491 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: nine months. I was like, I'm off, I'm getting my 492 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting my permit today. I wanted I wanted to 493 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: drive so badly. I wanted the independence. I wanted to 494 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: be able to skirt myself around. And so anytime I 495 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: meet someone grown, I know so many grown people, especially 496 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: because I live in New York. You're like, I've never 497 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: driven a card and I don't have interest. 498 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? It's crazy to me. It's crazy to me. 499 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: Some of them have moved here, even to LA and 500 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: they're like, I just I don't I'm not interested in 501 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: learning how to drive. And I'm like, that's all I 502 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: ever wanted was to drive. So your son is like that, 503 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not dripping. 504 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, he's going to school in France right now. 505 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So he's like, when I get back here. 506 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Okay, do you think he'll be I feel like he's 507 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: going to come back here and be like I don't care. 508 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, I'm not doing or not doing it. 509 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So as being a parent made you more patient 510 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: than you maybe were before you had kids, I. 511 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: Think so, yes, yeah, I think so in what way 512 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: is it more patient? Or I think it's being a 513 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: parent you have have to put in your mind that, uh, 514 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: you're not the most important thing. You're you know, like whatever, 515 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah that's might might be what you want, but 516 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: it's not happening and you just have to put yourself 517 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: on the back burner for a minute. Yeah. Yeah, so 518 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 2: it's not patience, it's just okay. 519 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: It's almost like surrender in a sense, like surrender and 520 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: be like yeah, because I think about parenting, it's good that. 521 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean, if you could learn surrender and if I 522 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: could learn surrender in other ways in my life, things 523 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: would just be better all around. But I'm like you, 524 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: as an individual without kids, I'm like, yeah, everything is 525 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of in my world kind of when I would 526 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: like to do the thing contingent upon other people occasionally, 527 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: right right, But I'm like, everything's like when I would 528 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: like to do the thing how I would like to 529 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: do the thing in my space, and when you think 530 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: about being responsible for another I have a dog, and 531 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: even that has made me. 532 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: So sweet Angelo. His name is Chief he is. Do 533 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: you have any dogs I had? I had? Yeah, I 534 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: had a dog, Riley. He was almost eighteen years. Still 535 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: miss him. He's been going with four years. And then 536 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: we had a a Chihuahua, Simon, and just back in 537 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: August had to say goodbye to him. I'm sorry, I'm 538 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: so he was almost nineteen. 539 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you spend a long time with them. I 540 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: mean when I first got my puppy, because I got 541 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: his puppy, I was like, I, yes, everything right now 542 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: is not about me, and I'm kind of having to 543 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: change my schedule because I've raised that little dog. Yeah, 544 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: but I'm like, this is a good practice for me 545 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: a person who wants children. I'm like to go, I 546 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: have to keep you in mind. And some things like 547 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: him having diarrhea or vomiting at the most inconvenient times, 548 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is right now what I was 549 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: about to go do drop back burner to attend to you. 550 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: I do think it sounds silly, but I'm like, I 551 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: do really think it's kind of practice. 552 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: No, You're absolutely right. I thought that with with Riley. 553 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: Why when I met my wife, I had Riley, and 554 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: uh I don't think if I had if I hadn't 555 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: had right Riley, I wouldn't have been in any shape too. Okay, Yeah, 556 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: they have this relationship and kids and all that. It's 557 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: crazy how that I've been out here in these streets. 558 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: If I had Riley made me go home. 559 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Really also want there is nothing outside nothing nothing, And 560 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I know that you know that now, but for other 561 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: people who are back, but back. 562 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: Then, was there stuff outside? Back then, there was a 563 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: lot out I wish I would been grown up back then. 564 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: Tell me about it. What was outside it was? 565 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: Wait, tell me our spots and all. There's nothing now. 566 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: You want to be at home with your Yeah, and 567 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: I similarly right, and I'm and I don't have the 568 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: partner and the kids. But I'm like, just let me 569 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: be at the house with my dog. When I got him, 570 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: though at first, I was like, this is a huge 571 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: responsibility that I feel like people won't speak about enough. 572 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Getting a puppy. Did you have Riley as a puppy? Yes, yeah, 573 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: that is a lot of responsibility because everyone's like, here's 574 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: my cute dog, here's a picture of my dog. 575 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm walking my dog. That's nice. 576 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: But then the reality of it is like waking up 577 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: every three hours because this little animal that is either 578 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna pooh and pee all over your home needs to 579 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: go or you're gonna let them do it on your 580 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: run again for the hundredth time. I just remember being like, 581 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: what have I done? 582 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: I might need to give him back. 583 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the truth. And since he's a dog, 584 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: he'll never know that I thought that. But I'm just 585 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: confessing here, and I'd have friends who have. 586 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: Had to give dogs back. They're like, I didn't realize 587 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: it would be this much of a responsibility. That's funny 588 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: because I felt that when we brought the twins home 589 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: really because in the hospital it was it was good. 590 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: And then we got home and they were both napping 591 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like looking at at Alex and we were like, oh, 592 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: this is cool. We got this. Then you know, they 593 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: they went on. They were cool and it was time 594 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: to go to bed. So as we put them in 595 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: the bed, we laid down and was like a I 596 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I got this and the other one 597 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: so and then it came like both of them back 598 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth like this one no no, 599 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: no way, no no change, this one feet this will 600 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: And I really said, we might have to take one back, 601 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: because yeah, I said, we not one. It's a lot. 602 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean they say like twins having twins in generational 603 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: two as well in genetics or something like that, and 604 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: I think my generation in my family is due for twins. 605 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: And I'm scared because I would I would be too 606 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: scared to have twins because exactly what you're describing. I 607 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: feel like my head would be spinning. 608 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: And that's what it was. You're like, we might have 609 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: to take one back. Yeah, we were lucky because the 610 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: telling all her business, because you don't have to say 611 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: the name. Yeah, because my wife was like, oh, we 612 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: can put we should put The doctor said that there's 613 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: three good eggs, so we should put maybe put the 614 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: three back. I said no, no, no, two was tops top. 615 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: He said, if we put two, we get one, we're winning. Yeah. 616 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: See we put two, Yeah, get two, okay, but we'll 617 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: do it. We got it, so glad you did. But 618 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: if we get three, one staying here, like one one 619 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: staying here, say that right now, I'm going to pray 620 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: for one of them to eat one. If we're not 621 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: doing this, we're not doing three. 622 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: But then you wouldn't even want to keep the baby 623 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: that ate the other baby, because you're like, that's a 624 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: different kind of baby, that's a different had a child 625 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna grow up to be something something else. 626 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna gwup to be such true, I know that's twins. Twins. 627 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: God bless all the parents out there raising twins or 628 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: triplets or more. 629 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, just nowadays, just raising kids. It's a lot. 630 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: My mom is one of nine. Damn, God damn, that's 631 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: what I say. I'm like, how but there's really one 632 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: of the sets of kids. It's nine. 633 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: Three are a set of triplets. So like, technically gave birth. 634 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bad at math right now, three or 635 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: six times something like that. Oh yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. 636 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: Or seven times. Anyway, how many siblings do each your 637 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: parents have? 638 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: Roughly if you got I think both of them, somewhere 639 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: between seven and nine. 640 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was so normal, and now it's like 641 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: and I used to think because I'm one of four, 642 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, when I was a kid, I'm like, 643 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: I want four kids because I was one of four. 644 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: And now each year of life I go one less, 645 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: one less. For a few years, I'm like, actually, one 646 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: would be that's great. 647 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's maybe a time shared exactly. We don't 648 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: need to do all of that. We don't need to 649 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: do all of that. So what do you How would 650 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: you describe this phase of your life? Though I'm in 651 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: a good space and it's trying to just fare out 652 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: what's the what's the next thing? I guess more of 653 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: a challenge, I think, or it's more of the of 654 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: creating projects. Okay, I think yeah, instead of it's always well, 655 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say always, because we just did the upshaws 656 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: and I created that, but it's you know, it's always 657 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: getting hired for different projects, which I'm grateful for. But 658 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: I think I want to, yeah, create some stuff now. 659 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you say a challenge, is it because 660 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: that's not something you've done as regularly as you would 661 00:33:59,600 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: like to. 662 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: But I think it's because of the of the type 663 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: of project I'm trying to think of, you know, it's 664 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: more that. 665 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the midst of that, what made you 666 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: want to go on tour? Obviously you have more jokes 667 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: to tell, more to say to us. 668 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: And is that that was it? Or is it? Is 669 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: there any other reason that you'd be like I would 670 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: want to go. I love doing stand up. I love 671 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: you know, touring, well, I should say I love torn, 672 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: but I loved sounds. Really it's hard. It sounds lovely 673 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: until you're doing it. But it's not like I'm standing, 674 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, like a cheap motel. You know, it's like, okay, 675 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: you know, it's nice, it's nice. Travel first, it's not. 676 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: It's nice, but it's still it's just getting up and yes, 677 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 2: but staying like one night in a place. 678 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have multiple nights and multiples 679 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: uh one night, yeah, but like one night, take off 680 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: the next day in time for check off, check out, 681 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: in order to getxity. It's a little bit of a grind, 682 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: it is. And it's not to complain because how blessed 683 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: are we to get to do what we do. But 684 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: it's such an interesting thing when I've romanticized being on 685 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: the road and getting to see every little city, and 686 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: I've gone on tours with podcasts I've done, I've done 687 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: shows myself, and I'm like. 688 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: This is a grind. 689 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah truly, Because you say, yeah, I've been to Portland, 690 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: but I haven't really been to Portland. I did a 691 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: show at Portland, like people be like, how was it? 692 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I got in and out unfortunately exactly. 693 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: But so you're you're enjoying though, you enjoyed not necessarily 694 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: being on the road, but live performing. Of course I do. Yeah, 695 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: I still love that. Yeah, that's beautiful. Do either of 696 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: your kids want to be in the business? Not yet? 697 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: All right? Not yet? How would you respond should they Yeah? Yeah, 698 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: if they want to do it, you know, i'd be supportive. 699 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't help them, but i'd supportive. You're 700 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: not gonna let them take advantage of a little nepotism, no, no, see, 701 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: I think it's great. 702 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have nepo babies. I'm like, I can not 703 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: wait to have an epple baby. You're so when you 704 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: you're really not gonna help them like not and of course, 705 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: like as a parent would, but you're not gonna be like, hey, 706 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: get them in there and do If they were like 707 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: I want. 708 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: To do this, they got to figure it out. Well, 709 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: they have to have the talent. Yeah, I can't help 710 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: them with that. Hopefully some of it passed the talent. 711 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:30,479 Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, are you really honest with your kids? 712 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: In general? Uh? In general? Yes, in general, but I'm 713 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: not Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't lie to them, 714 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna I don't. I'm not gonna try 715 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: to crush them. I'm always lift them up. 716 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: Are there any ways that you approach parentsing that are 717 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: unlike the ways parents you were parented? So where you're like, 718 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do something different here than my parents had. 719 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 2: Uh, try to listen? Okay, yeah, I do listen to them, 720 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: and I allow them to. Let's let's discuss this, and 721 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: you can ask me why I said no. Like growing up, 722 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: it was because I said. 723 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: So it which is yeah, it was. I mean, who 724 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: knows what way is this? I would say this new 725 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: era of parenting that has emerged and in the recent 726 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: years will be messed up. But I'm like, this is 727 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: so much more lovely. And I'm like, I wish somebody 728 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: had asked me, let me have a conversation with them. 729 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: But I know it's like nobody wants to be talking 730 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: to a little kid. But I'm actually kids have something 731 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: to say sometimes they do, yeah, and so giving them 732 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: that space, I do agree. I mean, I don't have 733 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: kids is important, but I also imagine that at times 734 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: It is a test of patience too. It is yes, yeah, 735 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: and you approach it with yes. I mean, we're not 736 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: going to have a full on you know, you know 737 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm gonna let you get a few questions. 738 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: Off and then that's that's it. That's it. 739 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 740 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: I mean everything always leads to because I said so yeah, 741 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: well okay, but I first. 742 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 1: Make you feel like it's not just because I said 743 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: but we both know it's because I said so yeah. 744 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: I respect. I don't know. I'm just getting the feeling yeah, 745 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: and they're like what, I don't know. I just don't 746 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 2: feel like you should. 747 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: Go yeah oh to parties like that. But also a 748 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: parent's intuition though, Yeah, that I'm older, I can have. 749 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: I have immense respect for it now because before growing up, 750 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: like certain, my mom at times would be like, you're 751 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: never sleeping over those people's house again. I'd be like why, 752 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: But now I understand. She's like when I want to 753 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: drop you off strange folks. Yes, she's still let me 754 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: spend the night, though, She's like, I'm willing to gamble, 755 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: but not again. 756 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 2: After this she was probably yeah the whole time, right, 757 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 2: But I'm like the parent's intuition is real. It's real. 758 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: I was in college and and we were living in 759 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: this house. It was on campus, but you know, all 760 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: these roommates. It's like four of us, and we were 761 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: getting ready to go to this party. You want to 762 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: go leave Hampton and go over to Norfolk to this party. 763 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: We were all getting dressed, you know whatever, and Tracy 764 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: got a phone call, so she goes pay phone, yo, 765 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: Tracy's mom. So Tracey's on the phone with her mom 766 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: and she's like, uh huh uh huh okay, yeah, all right. 767 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: So she comes back upstairs. She goes, guys, we can't go, 768 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: and we were like what. She's like, I just talked 769 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: to my mom, and you know, she said, asked what 770 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: we were doing. I told we were going out, and 771 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: she said she felt something and that we shouldn't go. 772 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: And we were like, damn, why did she take that call? Yeah? Yeah, 773 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: and we didn't go. You didn't go cause we didn't. 774 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: Did we find out that anything happened at no. I 775 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: was like, somebody better get shot in Norfolk tonight. I 776 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: said it better if we wake up tomorrow morning and 777 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 2: nobody I got showed. I need to talk to your 778 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: mom Tracy's out the friend Yeah, out of the friend group. 779 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: That's a mess, But it's true though. It's it's it's interesting, 780 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: like I. 781 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: Missed a flight recently, and I like to tell myself that. 782 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's because I wasn't supposed to be on 783 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: that plane. I was supposed to be on that plane. 784 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: Nothing happened on that plane. Girl, you missed your flight, 785 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: and doesn't it doesn't have to be that. 786 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,959 Speaker 2: But you know what, it might not have been the flight. 787 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: It could have been when you landed at that time, 788 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 2: getting in the car, going to that place, something could 789 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: have happened. That is so true. It's true. Are you 790 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: a person who believes everything happens for a reason? Yes, 791 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: that's true. Yeah I do. 792 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard people say like, in that reason, 793 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: sometimes it's because you're being dumb. I've heard that I 794 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: believe everything happens for a reason. 795 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, silly to think, no people, Yeah, I've heard people 796 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: say that. Yeah. Yeah, I believe I am where I'm 797 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: supposed to be. Right. Do you raise your kids with 798 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: any sort of faith? You know what? That's the area 799 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: that I feel like I'm not gonna say failing at, 800 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: but where I need to step up. But there's sixteen now, 801 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: so I don't let but I've always, you know, had 802 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: we say grace before you know, we eat, and they 803 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: see that I go to you know, either go to 804 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: church or online church or online church from the company 805 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: or bed, praise the Lord from this best. You know 806 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: you can order like the little communion. You can't stop it. Yes, yes, 807 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: oh you're you can get a little the little thing 808 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: and you just right there. Wait a minute, you're serious. 809 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: Don't tell me this. Why would you tell me this 810 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 2: because I'm trying to physically, I'm trying to get back 811 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 2: into physically going. Oh, well, you know, definitely, But I'm 812 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: the same. 813 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: Good communion from bed and bed is my I have 814 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: established here that bed is my favorite place to be 815 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: at all times. 816 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: Don't tell me I'm doing communion from bred in the 817 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: name of the file son. Wow, okay, it's over. I'm 818 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: not stepping foot in another yet. Communion from bed, blessing myself. 819 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh wait, okay, so you do all night, but you 820 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: don't make that watch with you. No, I don't. I don't. 821 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Tell me, because you know, my my 822 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: church is black. So so I'm like, oh, passala slip 823 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 2: up say slept to day crazy, here's a white So 824 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 2: it's like up, you know, yeah, Wanda, you know what, 825 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: But listen, I do get it because everyone, which I 826 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: want to say, which he never does, my church is 827 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 2: very loving cour and he's yeah, this is the best 828 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: that just in case that one off, get that fear 829 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: that maybe this is the one day you make them 830 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: sit for church. It's gonna be the days you don't 831 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 2: like what, Yeah, we don't like white people in this house, 832 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: pastor what the pastor? We hate to see it because 833 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: that would really turn them from God. Yes, and understandably. 834 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: So so what made you not make them besides like 835 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: not wanted them to hear the pastor say anything he 836 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: hasn't said yet? 837 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 2: What is what made you not in any way say hey, 838 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 2: we have to do this? Well honestly, Also, I was 839 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: also trying to find the church I'm in now, I was, 840 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 2: you know, so I was bouncing around trying to find 841 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 2: it church. I like, so, yeah, I would let them watch. 842 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: I would try to get them, you know, I will. 843 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's what my plan. It's a goal. I 844 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 2: would like to take them physically to the building. Okay, 845 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: but we we I have. You're like, was one like 846 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: Christmas Eve Mass or whatever? There's a a like a 847 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: Unitarian church. I'm like, this is good. It's a good move. Yeah, 848 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: so I would take them there. And but for me, 849 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 2: I just I don't feel I don't feel like I've 850 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 2: been to church. 851 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: You know. 852 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, okay, yeah, actually I took my church, 853 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 2: my son recently the church. What happened about that? Yeah, 854 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: on on Fire Island there's an episcopal uh uh church, 855 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 2: but it's held in our community center on Sundays. Right, 856 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 2: So he did he like it? Yeah? He did, Okay, 857 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 2: he did. He was like, all right, that is all right, 858 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: But you don't feel the need to in any way 859 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: impose faith on them, So you know, I do, but 860 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: I want to. And I feel like that's where, you know, 861 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: kind of failed. I get what you're saying, but like, 862 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 2: because my parents gave that to me, at least was 863 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 2: there and maybe if I you know, it was kind 864 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 2: of not practicing for you know, for a minute, It's 865 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: all it always been there. I could always tap into it, okay, 866 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: you know, like if things were like really bad or 867 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: I knew I could always tap into that to pull 868 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 2: myself out of you know, or for God to help 869 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 2: me to pull my you know, out of this whatever 870 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 2: thing I was in. So I want them to have that, 871 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: to know that that they they there's always a place 872 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 2: they can go. There's always yeah. Yeah, did you ever 873 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: flat out reject faith? No? 874 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: No, see neither neither of. I have some friends who 875 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: have and then have returned to it. Yeah, But for me, 876 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm always like, it's a place for me. You want 877 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: to show up and engage with your faith at all 878 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: times in a dream perfect world, right, But that's not 879 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: how it always goes. And sometimes you're like, oh, I 880 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: haven't tapped back in, and I haven't. I haven't felt 881 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: as connected to my faith. Yeah, and now I would 882 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: like to do that. And you make a point to 883 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: or but but I've said to people like, in my 884 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: lowest moments, I'm like, I have that thing I could go. 885 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 2: I know, I know what to reach for. 886 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: And so that's beautiful that you want to give that 887 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: to your kids, because it sounds like you feel like 888 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: it's a gift to your parents gave you. 889 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: Yes. 890 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 1: And I have a friend who once said, in terms 891 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: of imposing anything on her son, she and her partner 892 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: at the time, were like, we want to teach him 893 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: something because he's gonna look for something to believe in, 894 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: whether you show him the way or not, like people 895 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: or people want something to believe I feel. 896 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 2: So that's beautiful. And so your daughter hasn't been to 897 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 2: church yet, I'm not not without me like that. Okay, 898 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: I will. It's gonna happen. I feel it. But say, 899 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: but here's the other thing too. I put this back 900 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: on on my wife because because when we were because 901 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 2: when they were born, she was so like like focused 902 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: in and like hell bent on getting them baptized, like 903 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: raised Catholic. So I'm like, okay, so she has the 904 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: faith thing. I can roll with this, right, she's I 905 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 2: learned the hell mary things whatever. As long as they 906 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: have something, I'm good with this. Yeah, it's the same guy, okay. 907 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: And so you know, she did all this and we 908 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 2: went to France, she got them baptized and then that 909 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 2: was it, and you know, and I was like, aren't 910 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 2: you supposed to be like classes? So she's like, oh no, 911 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: we we you know, baby, that's too much. That's just 912 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 2: like so there she's there, Catholic by name, Okay, okay, 913 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: but she's that way because her her parents didn't really 914 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 2: take them on her own. No no, no, no, no no. 915 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: It was kind of like the same way. They were 916 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: like baptist and then yeah, okay, wow, all right, and 917 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 2: you had no follow up. It was like there was 918 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 2: a follow up all that you press me to get 919 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: them baptized. 920 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: We got to follow the follow because sometimes I think 921 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: some people think you just do the thing and then 922 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: they're they're good. But they have to have their own, 923 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: in my mind, relationship with it right for it to 924 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: be to be probably what you want it to be. 925 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: Right. That is really lovely that you said she's got it. 926 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,959 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 927 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: I just imagine, like, oh cool, she really cares about yes, 928 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: And then you realize up under you're like, wait, no, 929 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: you just kind of gave us crazy. That's but you 930 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: put it on her, you know, told her business today 931 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: and you've blamed her. Is this what being a partner is? Okay, 932 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 1: I'm learning from you. I'm learning from you every step 933 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: of the way. I have to ask because I need 934 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: advice for life, all right. Your longevity in this industry 935 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 1: that can be very fickle, right, it's hard. It's what 936 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: you've done I think is remarkable and how you have 937 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 1: stayed so you and so funny and so relevant all 938 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: these years. 939 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 2: How does one do it? That's oh, this segment is 940 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 2: called that was nice? But what about me? What about me? Okay, okay, 941 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 2: I had one goal right when I started this business. 942 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 2: You know, I even go go further back. I was 943 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: working in the government and you know, up at my 944 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: job said there. And I was at my job, at 945 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 2: my job at the government job, good job, good job, 946 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 2: good job, And I just knew I wasn't happy, and 947 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: I knew it was something else that I was supposed 948 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 2: to be doing. And and I remember everyone saying how 949 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: funny I was, and you should be on stage, and 950 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: so I was like, okay, you know, I'm gonna try it. 951 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 2: So I did some jokes and I knew immediately like 952 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: this is what I wanted to do. So my thing, 953 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 2: it all has al had always been I want to be, 954 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 2: you know, one of the funniest uh comedians, comics, not female, male, 955 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: just across the board, period, And that's what that's what 956 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: I work towards, and that's what I still work at, 957 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, and all everything else kind of just happened 958 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 2: from that, right, I did stand up and I opened 959 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 2: up for Chris Rock when he was doing Bringing the Pain, 960 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 2: he was working on that, he remembered me. So when 961 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: he got his show, Hey this is funny comic, started writing, Oh, 962 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: so now from my stand up I I'm now writing, 963 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm a writer. Okay, cool, but I'm still, you know, 964 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: slinging these jokes, still slinging these jokes. And then it's 965 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: from from there, Oh, We're gonna put you in front 966 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 2: of the camera. Oh I I guess, you know. And 967 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 2: and that happened because we we had booked a crew 968 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 2: to shoot some things, right and still had like a 969 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 2: couple hours left on the crew. P was a lie, 970 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 2: what y'all got, What y'all got? Come on to shoot something? 971 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 2: It has to be quick. Want to get in front 972 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: of this. And we're gonna do a video mama. You're 973 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: gonna you know, yeah, so a babysitter. So I'm playing 974 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: video mama. So now I'm in front of the camera. 975 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh okay, and just things. But it all started from 976 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: that one goal, and so I always just go back 977 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: to that as far as and that probably is why 978 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm still doing stand up. But everything just kind of 979 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 2: fell from that and still just stayed me you know yes. 980 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: And you're very clear in that way. Now, given how 981 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: like what you have accomplished in the way we all 982 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: see you and the expectation we all have of you, 983 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: have you bombed anytime in the last like five years? 984 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: Five years? I'm sure? 985 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: And what does that feel like for you? Being one 986 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: of the sex and people come in and like, we 987 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: love Wanda, we love Wanda. Wanda is the funniest. 988 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 2: What does it feel like? Are you? How do you 989 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: take BOMBI now, it hurts, it still still hurts. And 990 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 2: usually when it happens, it's ated like some charity event. 991 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 2: You're like, I didn't even have to do I didn't 992 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 2: have to do this ship. I ain't even have to 993 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 2: be just say that on the way out, driping I do. 994 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, this sucks, man, y'all Like, whoy are y'all 995 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: even having comments here? Y'all talking over there? Whatever? Clean 996 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 2: clean click clean? 997 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 3: You know what? 998 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 2: Next time, I'm just gonna write a check. Yeah, I'm 999 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 2: gonna write a check. I'm not coming. I'm not coming, y'all. 1000 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 2: You guys have been great tonight. You'll tell them you 1001 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 2: guys have sucked, ruined. I'm not gonna sleep tonight. Yeah, 1002 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 2: this is gonna be on my mind. I'm not gonna 1003 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 2: sleep tonight. And are y'all okay with that? Yeah? Wow, yeah, 1004 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 2: write a check. Yeah. But you never know which crowd. 1005 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes they surprise you where you're like, this is not 1006 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: the crowd that I thought would enjoy this material in 1007 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: this way or this much. And then the crowds you 1008 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: think are gonna be great, it's like, yeah, it's the 1009 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: clink clink, clinking, not paying attention, heckling, huckling. 1010 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 2: You. I think it's lovely that you're telling the truth 1011 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 2: on the way out. You don't have to say you 1012 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 2: guys have been great. No, you don't have to. You 1013 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: don't have to okay, and you no, okay and yeah, 1014 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 2: or it's especially now you know if there's like somebody 1015 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 2: doesn't agree with my politics and they'll start saying something 1016 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 2: and they have to argue back whatever, and and it's 1017 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 2: it's the thing of I have to really tell myself, Wanda, 1018 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: don't go ballistic. Just that's one person. Yeah, so now 1019 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 2: my security they know they so they just hurt get 1020 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 2: that person out, okay, because they're like it'll ugly, it'll 1021 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 2: get my head and I just get and I just 1022 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 2: turn on everybody read and I don't like, yeah, since 1023 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 2: y'all out there sitting out there with that person, you 1024 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 2: can to help. Yeah, And then then I go too 1025 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 2: far and then it's like, so, oh okay, you know 1026 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 2: it's crazy and they're all out there. I saw that, like, no, 1027 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 2: we can't move on, No, we can't just move on one. 1028 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 2: But that was a lie. You really, yeah, you know what. 1029 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: But it's crazy how in life though the psychology of 1030 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,879 Speaker 1: and it's like evolutionary, evolutionary apparently that to look out 1031 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: for threats, so like you see one negative comment or 1032 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: someone one person is engaging with you negatively in the audience. 1033 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: You could have a crowd of four hundred people and 1034 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: one person who is like, I don't agree with your 1035 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: politics and I'm gonna kind of say something about it. 1036 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: But like, there are three hundred and ninety nine people enjoying, 1037 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: but you're just like you, I am committed to getting you, 1038 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: demolishing you, which is like it is it's evolutionary that 1039 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: we were meant to scan for threats and like address them. 1040 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: But it's so crazy how we still still we're not 1041 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,720 Speaker 1: under the same risk atty W one, but our brains 1042 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: still do that to us, like all this love, but 1043 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: I need to focus on that one person, that one 1044 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: person so secure. 1045 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: I need to get security. I didn't connect it with 1046 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: the evolution. Okay, that makes sense a little something. I 1047 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 2: might have made it up. No, I did it. I 1048 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: didn't make that far. I didn't make it up. I 1049 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 2: need to get security though, That's what I'm hearing, so 1050 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: they can address sick security. 1051 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: And this person left the nasty comic. Go get him, fine, 1052 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: I want you to show up to their house and 1053 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: scare them. I really appreciate you being here, and I 1054 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: know I've had a selfish moment where I got to 1055 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: get advice from you. We have a listener who needs advice. 1056 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: Would you be willing to give them advice as well? Okay, Kevin, 1057 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: We're ready to hear from them. 1058 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 3: My best friend is engaged to a man that I 1059 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 3: literally could not give less of a fuck about. And 1060 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 3: I'm afraid that my role as like best friend is 1061 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 3: being replaced by this guy that, again I don't even 1062 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: give a fuck about. Although he didn't vote. 1063 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 2: Call me back. I don't have his number, but didn't vote. 1064 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 2: And what he didn't vote? He said? 1065 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: The guy didn't vote. He's like, I don't give a 1066 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: fuck about him, but he didn't vote, and was that it? Yeah, 1067 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, he's like, I really don't give a 1068 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: fuck about him, although he didn't vote. It was just 1069 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 1: like one little jab to the man on the way out. Okay, 1070 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: so what would you say our listener does about this 1071 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: best friend engaged? 1072 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: It was layers to that. 1073 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 1: It's so much there's I wish we could ask follow 1074 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: up questions, but it's and he said, calling back, but 1075 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: we don't have his number. 1076 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 2: His best friend is engaged. Look that I have friends 1077 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 2: that I'm not really involved with their you know, with 1078 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 2: their partner. But it doesn't you know what I'm saying, 1079 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 2: Like like, it doesn't mean that that they shouldn't be together. 1080 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 2: You know, it's obviously it's something that she gets from 1081 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,959 Speaker 2: or he or there's the two guys. Okay, it's something 1082 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: that he gets from this other guy, this from his 1083 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 2: partner that makes him happy. Right, So your your thing 1084 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: is just you're just supposed to be happy for your 1085 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 2: friend and make sure your friend is good and maybe 1086 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 2: be a situation where it's good that you don't give 1087 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 2: a fuck about this guy. Because when your friend sounds 1088 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 2: off on him. You could be like that. Yep, I know, 1089 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: I told you exactly exactly, so you're that sounding board 1090 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: for for your friends. So just you know, Hey, relationships 1091 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 2: are meant for us to work out childhood ship. Basically, 1092 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:58,919 Speaker 2: it's yeah, so you roman attract, you end up being 1093 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 2: attracted to some body who Uh so you can actually 1094 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 2: have adult conversations with someone when you couldn't you know, 1095 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 2: have that conversation as a child. 1096 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: I've heard this sounds like relationships are just your re 1097 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: enacting childhood in any ways. 1098 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but but as an adult now you get to 1099 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: speak as an adult, Yes, with some you know, so 1100 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 2: with some agency. So I think he should just status. 1101 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe he got a good dick and 1102 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 2: that's that's all. And you don't want you don't know, 1103 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: you don't know what friend's vote could be, right, just 1104 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, it could be. He's like you think 1105 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking to him. We don't. We ain't talk. We 1106 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 2: don't talk. We're just I'm just trying to lock this 1107 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 2: dick up. The pipe is getting late. I'm not worried 1108 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 2: about it. Have you hang out with and do culture 1109 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: ship and vote? I don't need to you think I'm 1110 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: watching PBS with this molefu. You know what? 1111 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: That is so valid because also the listener said, I 1112 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about I couldn't care less about. 1113 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: But I'm like, sounds like you don't like him first 1114 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: of all, but she keeps it out, so you're you 1115 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: have to call it what it is. I think you 1116 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: don't like him. It's it's giving out a link and 1117 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: then the little dig at the end, and he didn't vote, 1118 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: but he might have a good dick and that might 1119 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: be all. 1120 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 2: Your friend is looking for at this stage in their 1121 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 2: life life. Yeah, that's true. You know what. That is valid. 1122 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: And I hadn't even considered because because every once in 1123 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: a while you will see a couple together you won't 1124 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: even know if the other person is a good person 1125 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: or not, or they're voted or not whatever, and you're like, 1126 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: that is an interesting match. But somebody's got some good genitals. 1127 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: That's often what it is. 1128 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 2: You are so right. Let me think about that next 1129 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 2: time I see a mismatched couple. Yeah, I'm doing something. 1130 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: Somebody's doing something different. Wanda, thank you so much for 1131 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: being here. I really appreciate you. Best wishes on the tour. 1132 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1133 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: I pray nobody makes you see red. Nobody does that, 1134 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: and if they do, security gets them morning. Okay, But 1135 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: come on, t I I feel like he owns that word. 1136 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, really appreciate you. I'm so glad 1137 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: you could be. 1138 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Here with you. All right, folks, Folks, what where am 1139 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: I from? 1140 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: We've established that I'm from Maryland. We don't really say 1141 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: that word. I guess I can't speak for everyone. Their 1142 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: point is I just talked to Wanda Sykes. 1143 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 2: That was very fun. 1144 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: I love the Maryland specifics of that conversation. Many of 1145 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: you may not like it, but guys, that's okay. And 1146 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: I often talk about things people like and don't like 1147 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: on this podcast, and I'm here to say it whatever, 1148 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: it's okay, dog. I loved that conversation. She was so insightful, 1149 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: so funny, and getting to hear her talk about her 1150 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: children and savage ways was quite delightful for me. You know, 1151 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: what I didn't get to talk to her about is 1152 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: Instagram use and how she feels about memes and reels. 1153 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,919 Speaker 1: But if I were to guess, I think she ain't 1154 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: got time for that when we're talking about our patients, right. 1155 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I have a feeling she doesn't have the patience for 1156 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: endless reels and memes and tiktoks all day. 1157 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 2: That was the sense I got. 1158 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to pin that on Wanda, but just 1159 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: a hunch. I'm intuitive, you see, like a parent. Anyway, 1160 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: if you want advice from me and my guest, next guest, 1161 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: some guest, please, I'm begging you. I'm begging you to 1162 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: call us and leave a voicemail at five O two 1163 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 1: eight four nine three two three seven. I remember the number. 1164 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: There's no teleprompter, baby, that's just right up here. Okay, 1165 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: five O two eight four nine three two three seven. 1166 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: That's five O two Thanks TCHX. 1167 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Dad's more than one. 1168 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Bye. 1169 01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Thanks Dad. 1170 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money Players in 1171 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts. I'm your host Ago wodem Our producer is 1172 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Bartelt, and our executive producer is Matt Appadaka.