1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you who the hardest 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: working motherfucker in the weight room. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: It's Lebron on the court. It's Kauhi together weight room 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: and court. Kawhi, My. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: My, oh G is in the building. We have what 6 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: used to be a rook. 7 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: Now here, real old g still rooks. Listen, listen now 8 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: what you've done. You're fucking O G. Now you want 9 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: to you want to set with O G. 10 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: You are, And I'm drinking y'all saying I'm locked down you. 11 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: You You're a fucking dog. Dogs they ain't changed one bit. 12 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 5: And I love that ship. 13 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: When you on the other team, I got damn I 14 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: get somebody goddamn nerves, But I love that ship about you. 15 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: Every time I play against you, I make sure I 16 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: shake hands with you. You make sure you shake hands with. 17 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: Me every time every time we play the heat, I 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: make sure I find you. 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I ain't got to tell you this, dog, but it 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, because at the end of the day is 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: your career. But I'm proud of everything that you stood, 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: for everything that you've done. 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 5: Remember you're hanging out with me and Miami when you 24 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 5: first got. 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: To get me and we hung out a little bit 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: of gave me your Fordamn real, any person get up 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: for down there real. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm proud of everything you represent. 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate that, not just on the court, but in the 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: locker room. I appreciate you know what I'm saying, standing 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: on business holding. Motherfucker's accountable. You know what I'm saying, 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: pushing people to be their best version, never changing. 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: Right, I had a real cute relationship. If I didn't 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: get him, cut to blame. 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: You. 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: He took me out, like. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: He said the one time, this motherfucker want to play. 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 5: Listen about to offer me the midium because he took 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 5: all the bread. 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Somebody wanted to why why, and the way had to 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: take less. 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: And see, he had to take less because he took. 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: All the I'm just gonna go ahead, get off here. 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: Let these motherfuckers got gosh damn that. 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: You got to think eminem he and I don't think 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: I never told you know him this or anybody's like 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: he pivotal pivotal point in my career, like learning how 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: to shoot the ball, like I remember walking in practice. 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: You feel me and I feel like I get there early, right, 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: I mean with the heat. You know you young, got 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: your ass better get there, put on the past right 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: that park, and that time I'm in there, I see 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: I see him and them talking about lining it up, 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: shooting it. I'm talking about one step in, both feet, 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 2: flat feet, flat feet, step in. I'm timing. I don't 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: seen the man hit thirty three threes in a row 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: in the corner. So, like you know, he taught me 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: a lot with shooting without even me asking a ton 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: of questions. So I appreciate that. 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: That's real ship, though, I appreciate it. 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: Listen, man, it's it's crazy to see where you're at 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: now because you came through a different way. And you 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 4: guys have that in common because at the end of 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 4: the day, it doesn't matter where your drafted, what happens 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: at the beginning, it's where you stand at the end. 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: And you guys are a perfect example that y'all have 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: an unbelievable career. You've had a unblievble career. 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: It's not over. 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: I say it like it's over because we got more 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: ship to do and it's about to come. 71 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, got good agents. Shout theft not too much, 73 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: not too much. 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to them and m man while we're here, 75 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: and it's summer league. And you know someer league means 76 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: something different to each particular player here, but especially if 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you drafted high lottery or if you second round, or 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: if you undrafted, I mean, all three of those positions 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: give you a different perspective in Summer league and what 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: you feel like you need to accomplish in the position 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: you in. I'll tell people all the time, if you 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: get the Summer League and you don't understand what your 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: WII is, you finnah, get your ass kicked because it's 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: some motherfuckers out here that ain't got the part of 85 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: pits in and the window to throw it, and they 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: this is it for them, you know what I'm saying. 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: So just spink about that mentality of what you came 88 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: in and how you approach summer league. And just when 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: you look at top draft picks, all those guys that 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: walk across that stage and hood they mama and put 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: that hat on when you get your opportunity, This how 92 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: it shit starts. 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, for me, it was different right 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: because I got drafted with the Heat. So with the 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Heat obviously you guys both know they operate way different. Yes, 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: we're not staying on the strip. We stand in the hotel. 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Ain't no motherfucker singo in there. We're putting your motherfuckers 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: right I'm talking about. I'm talking about the hotel where 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: you merge out right on the eway. We ain't got 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: time for you motherfuckers doing anything subway across the street, 101 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So so for me being 102 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: with the Heat, it's really different. If it gave me 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: a foundation of okay, let me lock the fuck in, 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: which also gave me a foundation of okay, I feel 105 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: better prepared when I go into every game. I done 106 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: got my rest. I ain't been out, I ain't sure. 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: I ain't never seen no other NBA players when I 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: was with the Heat. But the motherfuckers from the Heat, 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: that's where it always so, so I took it in 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: the beginning as a chance of like, okay, who got 111 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: the big names out here? Fizz, I got them, I 112 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: get good Pat, you know who else? Who else? You 113 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: So that kind of like, let me tell you something, 115 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: that ship didn't change. They came to the training camp. 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: This motherfucker was picking was picking up cast when they walked. 117 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: I got to though, but with all that said, though, 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: and there's no bullshit. He said it before you get 119 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: on here. Maybe it was one word on here. It 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: ain't changed, no, not at one. What people thinking of 121 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: this like for real, and I mean this like when 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: you walked into training camp. The motherfucker picked you up 123 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: before you walk into training camp. And it's still the 124 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: same way. I respect the show because once people make 125 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: it and start making money, they start doing different shit. 126 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: But you've always done it the same way. 127 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: I think that reflects we got to shout out the upbringing. 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: We got a shout out the upbringing and the grit 129 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: and the growing up in Chicago and you know, just 130 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: the things that kids face and they have decisions to make, 131 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: and just talk about decisions you had to make because 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: you had the. 133 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: Opportunity where you know things wasn't going your way. You 134 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 5: could have walked away from the game. 135 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 136 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: And when we say in the streets, I gotta translate 137 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: for the people at home, we don't meet out in 138 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the streets playing kickball. You don't feel me. What we 139 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: say in the streets, we mean in the streets slanging 140 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: them things. You feel me? So unfortunately toah, yeah, yeah, 141 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: so talk about that because early on you had some 142 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: decisions to make that could affected your life. 143 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I had children way early, right, and I'm 144 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: talking about a beautiful boy and girl. But I had 145 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: them freshman year and sophomore year in college. Right. I 146 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: got suspended at the end of my sophomore year. So 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: I go back to Chicago. I get suspended. I don't know, 148 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: July seventh, drift, June twenty six, this draft, and I 149 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: missed everything that's happening overseas at a young age. So 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm faced with the decision, am I going to stay 151 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: in school? Am I gonna what? Am I gonna do? 152 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: I decide to leave school, but my next job doesn't 153 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: come into November. So from July to November, I'm in college. 154 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: So I don't have no money, you know what I'm saying, 155 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Like you feel me like I don't have no money. 156 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: I gotta get you know, five thousand dolls alone now 157 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: from aging and and try to do what I you know, 158 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: know how to do best. Plus I have I got 159 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: to support two kids, now, you know what I'm saying. 160 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: So I got to stand on business like you know 161 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and not saying like you know, looking 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: back on it, like the place I was raised in 163 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: and my community only gave one outlet and one like 164 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: I can work at my fucking Whole Foods, so I 165 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: can work at my fucking Starbucks because we ain't had 166 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: none of that. You know what I'm saying. I wish 167 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: it was that easy. You know what I'm saying. My 168 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: path would have been you know, a little, a little easier, 169 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: but you know it was. 170 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: You didn't want it easy though, you. 171 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: Know, Hell no, we don't. We don't like it ease. Now. 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: We want that motherfucking meet to feel like a leather belt, right, 173 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: So so I have to make a decision what I'm 174 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: gonna do. I came you know, I deal with everybody 175 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: else in the neighborhood. Was doing that came natural, you know, 176 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: you know Nick and Bags type of kid, you know, 177 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: making sure everybody was straight. But that you know, I mean, 178 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: you're talking about really getting it from the mud, you know. 179 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it to Okay, cool, I did it. 180 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying it to like, you know, those decisions I 181 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: have to make that could have went left and I 182 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: could have been in prison a couple of months, and 183 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm not you know, we wouldn't even be here now, 184 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: you know. So it all worked out for you know, 185 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: it all worked out for the for the right reason. 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: I got a crazy story. I get. I'm doing my 187 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: draft workout that he telling neo draft me. I ain't 188 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: never tell nobody's story. I'm sitting in there when you walk. 189 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: I know, y'all know when you walk into the heat 190 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: boom to the left, it's real. Roles be a championship. Yeah, 191 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: he was standing right there, but he had a little 192 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: office in there too, and cut up a real dark 193 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: So I'm he looked at me slick back and like 194 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: me and rows on the time like I got so 195 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 2: close to Roles, you feel me? He telling me, you 196 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: know how you want things done, and this, this, this, 197 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: and what he expected me. And he's proud drafting me. 198 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: I want, you know, all that stuff. So I'm excited, 199 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: like I get to be up on the path rally 200 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: like you know. And he asked me, you support your kids. 201 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: I say, I do, some illegal some of it ain't 202 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: I do, though I do, though you feel me? I do. 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 204 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: You said you be the world's best drug. 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: May by no means are we like highlight that We're 206 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: just telling you what I just tell you. 207 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: We just tell you what it is. 208 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: We tell you like the situations that people was in, 209 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: and thank god we are what we are. 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 5: But it ain't always been sweet. Yeah, you know what 211 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 5: I'm saying, not at all. 212 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: So now you fast forward and I'm not one of 213 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: those guys who signed for two hundred million dollars. And 214 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm not one of those guys who signed for eighty 215 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: million dollars. You know, I'm one of those guys who 216 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: made a ton of money. But I still love to 217 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 2: play basketball. You know, I I feel like it'd be 218 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: a disservice if I train away. I still train like 219 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: I did my rookie year. And and just you know, 220 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: take any deal. You see guys who signed the max 221 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: not signing the max because a hundred million dollars short. 222 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, one thing is do this 223 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: as long as you can, and you're going to. But 224 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: the one thing when you walk away, because we can 225 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: say it, you'll never be able to replicate the feeling 226 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: you get competing every day, right Like you're never gonna 227 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: find your pat bad podcast is fucking elite. Yes, you're 228 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: never going to get that. You're never gonna but you're 229 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: never gonna get that feeling like you do when you 230 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: walk between them lives or you get in that locker room, 231 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So there's nothing you can 232 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: do in life or in business that's going to replicate 233 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 4: what you've done your entire career. 234 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Tell you, like Kid told me, play as long as 235 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: you can. The NBA, the locker rooms, the young guys, 236 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: they need you. They ain't gonna say it, but they 237 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: need you. That's why I stuck around so long. People 238 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: thought it was about me being selfish. Man, If it 239 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: was about myself, trust man, I could have been doing 240 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: something else long time. Facts, I could have been chilling 241 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: like a motherfucker. 242 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Team with more money, Yeah, 243 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: So you know what I'm saying. 244 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: When you get into a situation where you of value 245 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: for yourself and you actually had the opportunity to change 246 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: people lives, you know what I'm saying. And that was 247 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: the situation I was in When I see guys coming 248 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: here reminded me of Pat Bell, reminded me of myself, 249 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: reminded me of a gay Vincent, reminded me of a Max. 250 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, every time a guy come in, every year, 251 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: I get a chance to reinvent myself. 252 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: Every year I. 253 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Get a chance to fucking just start all over again 254 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: with somebody that reminded me of us. 255 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 256 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: If I can have them have the same career as 257 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: a Pat Bell or the same career as myself, or 258 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: just see them take the habits that they learn here 259 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: and apply them shit somewhere else, I don't want. 260 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: That's all I need. I'm good with it. I've been doing. 261 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: What why I'm playing NBA? What twelve thirteen years? I 262 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: don't play professionally sixteen seventeen years? Man, unbelievable, you know 263 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like so long time? You know, I 264 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: know the news came out about if I'm you know, 265 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: go to Europe or go to the NBA. But I'm done. 266 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to play twenty years. 267 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 5: Come on, man, and laying your own plane like. 268 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: Going out sometimes. I got houses everywhere, man, I mean, 269 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: what gosh, I just seen you in Europe. 270 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: What time is it? 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You see I'm talking about like 324 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: Grandma grand my crib, small TV, not even big as 325 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: this month, fucking right here on porch, everybody in the 326 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: house watching that month. You feel me. I go to 327 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: santro Pei, I don't know, three days ago for my birthday. 328 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan there. Hey, Like when I say full circle moment, 329 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: I mean like I went from in Chicago in the 330 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: hood watching this man on TV to us being in 331 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: sandro pey him and his him and this lady man, 332 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: my lady. He came in on the boat, his boat 333 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: a little bigger than mine. I can't the park a 334 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,479 Speaker 2: little closer. 335 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: Boat. 336 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So so uh, you know, 337 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: full circle type of thing, man, full circle type of vibe. 338 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Hey man, I remember this one time, our quick story man, 339 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: me and d Wade we over in Europe. 340 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: You know, we out there, We're on the boat. We 341 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: living life. 342 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: We're feeling good fucking around and Mickey pull up on 343 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: his boat. 344 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: Now that's a. 345 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: Boat, and that it was renting love. 346 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: That's a boat. 347 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: You feel me, I got I gotta Micky shout out 348 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: of the way. Appreciate you because making the trips without 349 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: your boy. You know what I'm saying. But listen, let 350 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: me tell something. When you pull up on Mickey and 351 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: you get to his boat. Before you even get to 352 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: his boat, there's a motherfucker that's gonna pick you up 353 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: on a golf cart drive you to the boat. When 354 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: you get to the boat, that's a motherfucker that's gonna 355 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: take your shoes off. Because no shoes on the boat. 356 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Somebody gonna take your shoes. You're gonna hand your shoes 357 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: to the motherfucker at the door before you get on 358 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: the boat. 359 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: Now there's some stairs. Soon as you get on the boat. 360 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: By the time you get up the stairs of the boat, 361 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: there's a motherfucker that's gonna hand you a glass of water. 362 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 5: There's some most stairs. 363 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: The time you get up those stairs, the motherfucker gonna 364 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: take your glass of water. By the time you've been 365 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: that corner, Mickey is sitting on his motherfucking deck with 366 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: his feet up, and you have finally fucking arisen. 367 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: Now that let me know level the difference between rich 368 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 5: levels to this ship, and that let me know I 369 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: got work to do. 370 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: When I see that ship, I said, I ain't there 371 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: yet with these mata and he's watching. 372 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: Or I gotta do what best for me. That's right, Yeah, 373 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: feel me, that's right. I gotta do what's best for me. Now, okay, cool, 374 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: we got all these bo I can't get the big motherfucker. 375 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: I get the little motherfucker, like. 376 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: Keeping up with the Joses that you down. 377 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: With the outcomings income on the way though. What y'all 378 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: think about the people giving the ship, about the color nails? 379 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: They trying my dog trying. Let me take something. 380 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: I don't even know the history behind what you're doing. 381 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Let me take something like my dog has been always 382 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: a trendsetter when it came to fashion. He's always not 383 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: giving a fuck, you know what I'm saying. He's always 384 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: been willing to, you know, push the odds a little bit. 385 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: He is doing nothing wrong by supporting his kids. He 386 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: should supports every dream that she has, regardless of what 387 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: she wants to do in life. That's a father and 388 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: that's a parents job. So regardless of that sitting at 389 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: home painting his nails with his daughters. So fucking what, 390 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: that's how you spend time with your fucking darted. Is 391 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: that's how y'all bond? And that when when all in 392 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: the world today, when we see so many girls that 393 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: grow up and have daddy issues, and he's making sure 394 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: that that don't happen, and we criticize that ship, that ship, 395 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: that ship is hating. 396 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: Stop that sucker ass. 397 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: That's why I had to ship stops because you touched. 398 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: They want to touch on that for ante say nothing. 399 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't get into that ship, stop. 400 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: Going through it. Going through You talked about how many 401 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: years you played? Right, favorite stops where you learn the most? 402 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: What? What where did you see? 403 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: You know? 404 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: Because I was when you leave Miami and then you 405 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: you know, it's a reset, kid, it's a reset. 406 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: And I want to include the European stops too, for sure 407 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: everywhere because I was taking I had to call this 408 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: motherfucker acre braces the first month I was taking my ankles, 409 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: cutting off my blood circulation and ship swelling. 410 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: I can imagine young you d at that time you 411 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: probably was so thirsty you probably couldn't feel your mother. 412 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: You did with the jail three month times in press 413 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: man that was over there, wow, trying to figure it out. 414 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: But what when they threw that motherfucking ball up. That's 415 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: one thing I did know how to drive stick. I 416 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: ain't know how to speak French, but I know how 417 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: to get to that money. God, I know how to 418 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: get to that money. 419 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: So so for me, you know, I started second division Ukraine, 420 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: so that was that was humbling, you know, that was 421 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: my first stop. Then I go to Greece. But for me, 422 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: I say what I say. d'An TONI hm, when I. 423 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 5: Heard great things about that Tony Yeah, ever met him? 424 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Houston? Yeah, letter Houston. When I was the point guard 425 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: and D'Antoni came in and put James Harden's point guard, 426 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: put me as two guard, could have been to me. 427 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Mind you, I've been playing sixteen years, thirteen years in 428 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: the league. I ain't average over ten point seven. Okay, 429 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: shit in my career. Never guess what still here. 430 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Every motherfucking team in the NBA would love to have 431 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: a Pat Beach. 432 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So so so for sure, Houston, 433 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: I learned a time from James Harden, I learned how 434 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: to play the the point guard position. I learned how 435 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: to run, pick and roll me being afraid to I'm 436 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: living on is this a good shot or a bad shot? 437 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: D'Antoni erased all that shit out of my mind. You open, 438 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: shoot that bitch, they go under, shoot that bitch. You 439 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: cross past half court, You feel good, shoot that bitch. 440 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: Feel me so like. He gave me so much freedom. 441 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: That allowed me to still be a defender, but it 442 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: allowed to show a little bit of my offense. And 443 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: when I was able to a little bit of my offense, 444 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: each summer, I try to nick away, nick Away, nick away, 445 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: because I know it's gonna be a time while you 446 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: know it was gonna flip. I was gonna be more 447 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: of an offensive player than a defender, you know, because 448 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: of my age, and you know I've been I've been 449 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: nicking that it there since you. 450 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: Know it's obviously it's a og. So I think we 451 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: got touched on. 452 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: I think it's most important thing I heard in that 453 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 4: whole thing was you were a point guard. He moved 454 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: you to the two. For all these young kids that 455 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: are trying to make their way in the leader ad 456 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 4: Summer League R. Now, it's about it's about playing times 457 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: fucking oxygen. Right, So it doesn't matter if you're a 458 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: point guard or you think you're a point guard. You're 459 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: supposed to be a guy geting twenty points a game. 460 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: It's about finding your right way on the fucking basketball right, 461 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: exactly right, so when he slid you to that too, 462 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: instead of being like, motherfuck, I know, to man, I'm 463 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: a point guard like the rest of the young That's 464 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I'm just saying that, I'm trying 465 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: to say that right now for all these young kids, like, 466 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 4: like who you are when you first get in the 467 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 4: league isn't a necessarily who you're gonna be. Right, Just 468 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: get on the fucking floor, take an impact on the game, right, 469 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 4: So you're not gonna take like reality situation is. In 470 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: that situation, you're never gonna take the ball to James Hard. 471 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: That So, now, how can I get on there with 472 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: James Hard to make his life easy? And so that 473 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick up full court, I'm gonna play two, 474 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play off the ball. 475 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that. 476 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 4: Like That's what these young kids got understand man like 477 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: you gotta get on the fucking floor. 478 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: And with that mindset, I've been in the NBA twelve 479 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: thirteen years. I've started, I finished the start. I might 480 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: not have started the season starting, but when that season ended, 481 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: I was the starting guard. Every season I've ever played, 482 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: I've only not been to the playoffs one time. 483 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 6: That Ship. 484 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Reason that, it's a reason. 485 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 5: Reason for that. 486 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: It's a reason. You know what I'm saying. So I 487 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: finished the game, I'm still starting guards. 488 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: So so you you're in Hougeon d'An tony, who is 489 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: who is the one? 490 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: People? 491 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: And you're going up who is your favorite matchups go against? 492 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: And some of the toughest matchups you went. 493 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: Against at that time, it was it was like Dame. 494 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: Obviously it was Steph because Steph was Steph was real hot. 495 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: I say those those two were kind of like the 496 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: the headliners for me. 497 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: And you got a chance to play with Dame and Ship. 498 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: How was that so solid? 499 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking he gave He gave me a whole 500 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: different perspective since I met him. So last time me 501 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: and Dame leave each other, we leave, like he's saying, 502 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: he go with my ass right, So that's that's what 503 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: we left over that right, Right, So I didn't I 504 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: didn't see Dame again until I was his teammate, right, 505 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: and anyone that know me like, I'm on the team. 506 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: It's team everything, Yes, only I get traded two months 507 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: in the season. These are my new guys. I'm runn 508 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: through the wall, right, So I first get there, Man, 509 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: it was crazy I get traded. Man flying to Milwaukee, Man, 510 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: I land, I do all physical just to try to 511 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: play the next day. You know what I'm saying against Charlotte. 512 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: Come in the locker room, Okay? Cool? See dang dang? 513 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: Like what up? What up? Gren Mark could go to 514 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: the board. So when I set screens for you, because 515 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: I know I got the week of defender on me 516 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: all the time, how you want me to set it? 517 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: You want to set it to your left? You want 518 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: me to set it to your right? When I do that, 519 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: you want me to roll through the pocket? You want 520 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: me to pop? What's a good pass thing for? What 521 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: are you comfortable with? What can I do to make 522 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: your motherfucking job easier? Man? Right, that's how I come in. Man, 523 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: What you mean ain't no beef? When basketball players ain't 524 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: nobody fighting each other home. You can't fight your homies. 525 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna end up playing with somebody regardless, like you 526 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: stay alone with you feel me. I ain't about to 527 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, I ain't never had a I'm not about 528 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: to swing on anybody. You know, no shots taken. But 529 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: you know it's a brotherhood of basketball, so it ain't 530 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: no ain't no real beef. You know, it's competition, and 531 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: competition might spill over a little bit, but ain't no 532 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: real beef. So when I got to him, you feel me. 533 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: He looking like damn pat Like, yeah, this is how 534 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: I am. You feel me? And if somebody say some 535 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: cap shit, I'm calling him out. 536 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: Now that's cap. 537 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: We ain't doing that. Now, that's cap You're doing that. 538 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: You can't say that. You don't even practice, you can 539 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not letting shit ride. 540 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time and this is and 541 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: this is I think why you were brought to Milwaukee 542 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: and in that situation because I tell people this all 543 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: the time. Yes, you understand that Jannis is the best 544 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: player on the team, but your best player ain't always 545 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: your leader. And that's not to take nothing away from 546 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: your honest and I think oftentimes we criticize guys because 547 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: they're the best player on the team, but they're not 548 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the leaders that the media might want them to be. 549 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: They're not the leaders that the fans might want them 550 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: to be. Sometimes that's just not their personality. That doesn't 551 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: make him any less of a man, any less of 552 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: a player anymore, or any. 553 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 5: Greater, you know what I'm saying. 554 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: But you have guys because I've played that role in 555 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: a locker room where there was guys that was ten 556 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: times better than me. Brown was ten times better than me, 557 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: d Wade CB ten times. 558 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 5: Better than me. 559 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: But when it came to the leadership, I was the 560 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: captain every year, you know what I'm saying. So you 561 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: have guys like a Pat Bell that come into a 562 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: locker room and is able to change the mindset of 563 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room, just like we talked 564 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: about earlier, as a true leader, if you can get 565 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: those fourteen to fifteen guys to embody your same mindset 566 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: in the locker room as you have, because you already 567 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: have a dog mindset, a dog mentality, and if you 568 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: and even if these motherfuckers ain't dogs, you can get 569 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: them to think they dogs for forty eight minutes. 570 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 5: You have one. 571 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: And it's like people who don't know me of not 572 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: playing with me, they don't know, they like they don't know. 573 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: They're like, man, I see them from TV. I hear 574 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: them from the pie like, I don't know what type 575 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: of duty is. I don't know what type of teammate is. 576 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: When I leave your team, you be, I respect Pat Bell. 577 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking about I'm in there every off day, thirty 578 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: five years old. 579 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: There's no off days. 580 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: Ain't know what you mean. I'm telling young guys, man, 581 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: you ain't got five years in the league. Man, you 582 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: ain't no such thing as all day touch the park. 583 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: They looking at me like, damn, Pat, you go, yeah, 584 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm gona talk to him like that. Why y'all ain't 585 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: talking to him like that? 586 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 5: That's the problem. 587 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: That's the problem. 588 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 5: That's the album. 589 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: So now when I leave, and I got rookies, and 590 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: I got the Anthony Edwards, and I got the Shakee 591 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: Gilders Alexander's, and I got the you know, the the 592 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Clint Compellers, and I got these young guys, the Karl 593 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Anthony Town, the d Los, and I got a Pat 594 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: appreciate everything you did with you was here. I'd rather 595 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: have that than any type with that. That's the. 596 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 5: That's the reward. 597 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: And I tell you this, it comes from you know, 598 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: the experience that you've had because I look at your 599 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: career and I kind of compare it to some of 600 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: my things. 601 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: Like I've played with some great players. 602 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: Be a damn fool not to take something from all 603 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: the great players I've been around, being around Lebron James, 604 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: being around Dwayne Wade, being around Shaquille O'Neill, being around 605 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: Chris bosh, Alonzo Morning, Penny Hardaway, Gary Payton. 606 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: I mean, the list goes on and on. A great player. 607 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: So I look at your career. 608 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: You've been around Giannis, You've been around Bron, You've played 609 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: with embeid Us Hard look at the and you be 610 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: a goddamn food not to take max from these guys. 611 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm looking at Maxie at practice manowing that move again. 612 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: That's just to get an age, whether it be mentally physically, 613 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: something you would be a damn food not to take 614 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: and apply it to see how it works for you 615 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: as your career moves on. 616 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: Going back to Milwaukee, renate with Doc Rivers. Now, I 617 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 4: love love Doc, and I know you do too. What's 618 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: that situation that Milwaukee gonna be like for him coming 619 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: in or out? Because I know he came in obviously 620 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: halfway through the year. Last year, things were tough. People 621 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 4: weren't hurt two people, you know, injuries were part of it. 622 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: Is Milwaukee in situation where they can win the next year? 623 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: I really believe if you have, and I think we 624 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: as we as as a as a as a unit, 625 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: we we don't get Chris Middleton. 626 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 5: A lot of love, man, me say a healthy Chris Middletons. 627 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I seen it. Three two game winners, 628 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: one game, I see it. So with those three guys 629 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: and a Bobby Porters and obviously the ball pet you 630 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But with those three guys, you 631 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: put yourself in the position to win a ton of games. 632 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's championship, but usually a ton 633 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: of games come and winning a lot of a lot 634 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: of ship. Yes, put you a chance with the seven 635 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: game serious you feel me? So so with those three guys, 636 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: I really feel like you talked about you can't. You can't, 637 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: especially not in the East. You feel me you just can't. 638 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: You can't who you think you think Boss had a 639 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: chance to run it back. 640 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. Philly looked tough. I'm gonna go early 641 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: and say that I ain't gonna lie a free Paul 642 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: George without you know, James Harden and Kawhi, it's a 643 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: different Paul j. 644 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 3: That gonna be honest me. I'm a massive Paul George fan. 645 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: I think I think that has been amazing since we 646 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: played them in the Eastern Conference Finals sixty six times, 647 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: so I always loved this game. But I even thinking 648 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: he talks about all the time, the underrated signings that 649 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: they're bringing Kelly back, bringing Caleb Martin like they brought 650 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: us defended guard dude. Now now the size, I just 651 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: hope they stay healthy. 652 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: That's offensively, the one weakness that Philadelphia had. 653 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: Shoot. 654 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: They struggled with the catch and shoot. Paul George shot 655 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: that clip at fifty two percent. I'm telling you that's 656 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna change the offense. That's gonna change facing. 657 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: And he and he's gonna get to the free throw mine. 658 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 5: He's gonna get to that. He's gonna in that. 659 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: Go get found twenty two times a game. 660 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: What do you think about the Clay Clay going to Dallas. 661 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: How you think that player? 662 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: I didn't see that, right, I didn't see that coming. 663 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: But again, he took less money. He just want freedom. 664 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: I want to be able to hoop. I want to be. 665 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: Did he take less money with the lax true? 666 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 667 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: Hold on second though, like you, is it really freedom 668 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: over there? 669 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean for him to for him to have an 670 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: ability to be a bell out guy at the at 671 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: the third option. 672 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Yes, he's gonna have to really adjust his game. 673 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: A little bit. 674 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: I'm putting this on Jason Keith. 675 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: No, they put they put it like listen, Dallas is 676 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: an amazing job. Nicholas done a great job building to 677 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: get to where they're at right now. He sped that 678 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: ship up fast, right. But they put a lot of 679 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: pressure on j Kid because Clay's used to play in 680 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: a certain way he is and the way those guys 681 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: were successful this year is not the way Clays used 682 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 4: to play. This is true, right, So now Clay has 683 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: turned himself. If they stay where they've been, and they 684 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: stay in the high ball screens of them two freaking 685 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: gorillas they got down there, and Luther Kyrie he is 686 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: now becoming one of those catching shoot dudes from the corner. 687 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: He's not that way. It's passing, Chase, always moving. It's 688 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: gonna be interesting to see how his adjustments happening. It's 689 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: gonna be a big adjustment for Clay and for JKB. 690 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you. I like the chance with 691 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 4: a little might be a little. 692 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 5: I believe it in j Kid. 693 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: I just fegere, like if one of those guys get hurt. Right, 694 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 2: We've seen in the playoffs, Luca was kind of banged up. 695 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: Kyrie was kind of banged up. Yeah know, in the playoffs, 696 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: you gotta score one hundred. You gotta score one hundred 697 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: and twenty. Okay, first two buck twenty, right right, Kyrie, 698 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: give you thirty, Luca, give you thirty. That's sixty. You 699 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: need another sixty from some motherfuckers Clay and put put 700 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: a dub in there. 701 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: No, No, you're right. It's just it's a matter of 702 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: how he's gonna get his dub. 703 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: He's accustomer to get his double a different way, you know 704 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: what I mean, getting freaking thirty five in a quarter 705 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: with one dribble, you know what I mean. Like, so 706 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: it's it's going to be interesting right, Like I I 707 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: love Clay and I've always because I'm a shooter, So 708 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 4: I'm biases hell is what he shooter. Yeah, but you 709 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's it's just it's not 710 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: the style he's accustomed to. And you know how it 711 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: is in this league when you go from team you 712 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: don't know, fucking motherfucker play twenty in the same spot 713 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: when you. 714 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 5: Go when you when you he got lucky. 715 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, When you go team to team, 716 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: that shit ain't always better than you think it's gonna be. 717 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: Because let me tell you something. They're not gonna make 718 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: change his adjustments for the fourteen. You got to make 719 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: adjustments for the fourteen, right, those guys are used to 720 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: playing that way. Dallas ain't gonna make adjustments for Clay 721 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: now if they do in the second unit. 722 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting. 723 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm just tell you this. 724 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: But if we look at it and we talk about 725 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: the dynamics of bringing in the d way, you know, 726 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm excuse me bringing in Braun with with d Wade 727 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: and remember forever. Yeah, but it took a while, but 728 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: we figured it out. Well, you know, we took a 729 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: while way to figure it out. But Wade went through 730 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: some frustrating times and it's just it's a process. 731 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 4: Let's make sure we give and we do it a lot, 732 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: but give Spoe his fucking flowers. That was that was 733 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: that was throwing the motherfucker at the bomb and saying, 734 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: figure the shit out for sure, because because here's when 735 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: that team was put together. Was I mean, and we 736 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: did some of it right brod and got on stage 737 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: talking about winning eight, nine, ten, fourteen, seventy four, but. 738 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: The reality situation was there. 739 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: They took a learning curve right, and it was Spoe 740 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: learned very very quickly, which was awesome. Was he downsized 741 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: in certain positions. He was way ahead of his time, 742 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, but then he also found 743 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: ways to Okay, we're gonna move d Wade out the 744 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: lineup real quick. 745 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: They start to but then he come. 746 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 5: Back and he beat the motherfucker. 747 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: It was it was hard to ball diamond. Motherfuckers remember that. 748 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: Training to count Oh. 749 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: To this day you're talking about they didn't training to 750 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: change the name of that to iron shopping. I mothers, 751 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: what you did in Canada, I got to see it 752 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: day and you can't just do it on Monday, motherfucker, 753 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: you better do it on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 754 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: As saty, I got to see. 755 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 7: It, and it was show to the point, remember showing, Hey, But. 756 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, you talk about feeling like you're getting it. 757 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: I know, listen, there's nothing, no comparison to being at war, 758 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: no comparison. But when you feel like I mean staying 759 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: on the army base, sleeping in the motherfucking bunkers, going 760 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: to the lunch room and waking up every day and 761 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: getting to it the way we was digging to it, 762 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: that was about the closest A get because I ain't 763 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: never signing up happy. 764 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 5: I'm over. 765 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: Mother in draft now. 766 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: Smile by Fay stuff about your big cat jamaas. 767 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: You gotta think man. For y'all gotta understand from me right, 768 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: and everybody at a different part of their life in 769 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: their career, but for me at that time, that was 770 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: my foundation for sure, right, seeing how y'all work, Seeing 771 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: how Mike Miller, Okay, cool, let me make sure. I 772 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck. I don't know why I'm 773 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: shooting threes with two feet and I stepping into my ship. 774 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: But I seen Mike Miller do it, So let me 775 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: do it. You feel me? I see, I see, I 776 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: see how you. Donna's has been coming here, always in shape, body, y'all, 777 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: ripped up, shirt, all tuck thing. He's been here at 778 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: for ages. He's still the first one in his mother. 779 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: Let me be the first one like that ship for me. 780 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: That ship built my foundation, and it's no surprise. 781 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: That's why it is when people ask me about young 782 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: kids coming in, you gotta say, let me see the 783 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: situation they walk into, because it doesn't mean that they're 784 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: not going to be great players, but the course and 785 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: where they go it might not be from the same 786 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 4: spot because you walk in. 787 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: The foundation is important and important, man, Because that's. 788 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: Why we were actually on one of our other podcasts 789 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: we're talking about talking about Wimby and the signings that 790 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: did in San Antonio that Chris Pauls and stuff like 791 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: that are so important. You got to start getting that 792 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 4: better and stuff around there. Let them know losing is 793 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: not acceptable. But I know when he has that. You 794 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: can see he was fucking excited when they won their 795 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: eighth game last year, You know what I mean, So 796 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: you see it, but it's it's got to be constant 797 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: and the foundation's got to be set down. So I 798 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 4: think it's more it's funny you said that, it's really important. 799 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: It is. It's the biggest thing for me. 800 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: The Lakers, Lakers, what do you think now? 801 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: They needed five? How do you think j J will 802 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: do a coach? I think he. I think he's firm. Yes, 803 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: I think he's firm. And if your firm as a coach, 804 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: you will have success. I think I think that's was 805 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not comparing JJ Rex to Spoe. 806 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. But Spoe was firm. The way 807 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: Spoe talked to me, he talked to Bron the same 808 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: way I damn so. I couldn't even have no room 809 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: for Era like that. All right, man, if you want 810 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: to piss on the ball and not know to play, 811 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: send his ads to the corner. Okay, let me get 812 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: my playbook. Let me like, can real quick you know 813 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I witness say the same thing and 814 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: d Wade and the same thing Lebron. So I'm like, Okay, 815 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: he's firm, firm in an NBA, a firm coach, and 816 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: the NBA is a successful coach. I feel me. If 817 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: you firm, you gonna have some success. You go have 818 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: some tormial good or bad. Right, you're gonna have your 819 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: bumps good or bad. But if you if you firm 820 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: when you get fired, because you go get fired one day, 821 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: you firm. I'm sleeping better. At least I was myself 822 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: when I feel. 823 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: And that's the thing when also when you're firmed, the 824 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room respect you a lot more. 825 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: The two things I have about that situation that has 826 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: nothing to do with JJ. Only thing I have with 827 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: that situation is the ship. JJ can't control the bushit 828 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: in the locker room people side eye and ship. That's 829 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: the sucker ship that going in locker rooms nowadays because 830 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: seventy percent of these motherfuckers worry about the ship. 831 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 5: They can't control that. 832 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 2: That that my contract two three years now, that kind. 833 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: Of bullshit, all that bullshit like that, dealing with that 834 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: cynical side ship that that fucking comes into the locker 835 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: rooms and its fucking energy vampire ship. 836 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: How he starting he's not better than me? 837 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: That that's the ship. He got to wear it, but 838 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with him. And secondly, in 839 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: the fucking West, the last couple of years they've been 840 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: a playing team and the West is only getting better. 841 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: So if we're talking about putting them in the playoffs 842 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: and who were taking out Memphis getting. 843 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: Healthy, you know, I don't think. I don't think that 844 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers are winning all team right now, not even. 845 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 5: A playoff team right now. Though the roster, I. 846 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: Think I think they the bottom. I think they the 847 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: bottom six through nine. Feel me, depending on how the 848 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: season go, how injuries go, I think they six through nine. 849 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't you feel me. I ain't gonna just jump 850 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: off the ledge and just put them top five. That'll 851 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: be disrespectful and to the so much. 852 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: Listen, I call this generation idols become rivals because all 853 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: the motherfuckers that sat at home and watch Steph and 854 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: watch all these motherfuckers cook, this is their time and 855 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: they is not letting up on these old motherfuckers. They're 856 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: not letting up. It's healthy competition. It's great for the league, 857 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: it's great. 858 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: That's probably the it's probably the best of competition wise. 859 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: It's probably in and out every night for me getting 860 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: ready for games. It's probably the best I played in 861 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: this past ship and every. 862 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 4: Day did your thing in the playoffs. Who is the playoffs? 863 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 4: I love that what you just said. So give me 864 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: give me the dude that you think. Who's who's the 865 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: next one in the league, the next one? If you 866 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 4: can start a team, your GM now your GM bev 867 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 4: okay GM, Ben, you got one pick to start your team. 868 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: From new face. It's Anthony Edwards count Hell yeah, Anthony Anthony. 869 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: And I've been under him. I feel me. I've been 870 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: under him when uh he got it. Yeah he got it. 871 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: He got it, y'all. 872 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 5: He got it, he got it, he got it the court, 873 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 5: he got that ship. 874 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he might smile on your face. He might, y'all 875 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: might think he's saying some ship off to all. That 876 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: man know exactly what he's saying. I told people that 877 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: every single time I knew that man playing games. Man, 878 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 2: that man knows going on the shop all the time. 879 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: He didn't been through too much. He hadn't been through 880 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: too much. Growing up. You feel me growing up household, 881 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: You feel me like he hadn't been through too much. 882 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: You know I've seen too much. So like when it 883 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: comes to like life, like life catching him in fast life, 884 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't seen it all, seen it all. So like 885 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: he's different and he worked. He worked in the weight room. 886 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: Were talking about work. You had the opportunity to play 887 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: with some motherfuckers. 888 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: Kawhi, Joe L. Kawhi. 889 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 5: That's the hardest working, hardest work. 890 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: Five seen him all of life. 891 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 5: Okay, And I mean the hardest working motherfucker. 892 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: So when I when I said so, when I say hardworking, 893 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean in the weight room, it's Lebron. On the court, 894 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: it's Kauhi together, weight room and court. Kawhi not I 895 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: ain't seen nobody like him. 896 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: So so so for all you motherfuckers at home, and 897 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: then everybody questions because he's heard a lot. That's why 898 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: he heard from the fucking source that the man is 899 00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: the hardest. 900 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 3: But that's why he be hurt. 901 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: That's what people don't understand. That's why the motherfucker be hurt. Hey, man, 902 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: you gotta relax. Man, Nah we work out. Uh. I 903 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: think it's COVID They stop season, you know me? I man, 904 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: what the fuck I'm gonna do? Go to Chicago, go 905 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: to Houston. Iah, Fuck that man, homies, pack up the 906 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: sprint up. Man were driving the San Diego Like what 907 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: now we're driving San Diego? Man? Fuck that? A doc 908 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: get us some rebounds from the Clippers. Bro, I'm driving 909 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 2: San Diego. I'm about to go work out with Kawhi. 910 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: I gotta see it. I gotta see it up close. 911 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: I gotta see it. I gotta see what the fuck 912 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: is he doing? Man, they say, he let me see it. 913 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: We drive to San Diego. Man, we in that motherfucking 914 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: lab three hours. I'm talking about nine spots, shits eleven spots. 915 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm damn, I ain't never shot eleven spots. Make twenty 916 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 2: eleven spots, MIDI make twenty eleven spots. Tray make twenty 917 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 2: eleven spots. Pump fake, make twenty eleven spots. Pump fake, 918 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: tray like, make twenty eleven spots out. 919 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: Damn. 920 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm usually five, maybe seven, maybe nine. 921 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 5: You feel you do the nine spots eleven? 922 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: Man, if you miss twenty together twenty by yourself. 923 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no together. But if you miss, 924 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 2: if you miss eighteen, all you go back down to fifteen. 925 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: Got to have a last during a row. This bout 926 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 2: this bout okay cool last five in a row type ship. 927 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 4: Tell it's important that you say that because the narrative 928 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 4: around him is that he doesn't like it. 929 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: That's right. 930 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 3: It's no, you know I don't, but you knew how 931 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: they is too much. No, that's what I'm saying. It's 932 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: great that you say this and you need touch. 933 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 4: It's true, sure because you know you go through the 934 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 4: injuries he's gone through and it's natural everyone he don't 935 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 4: want to play blah bla blah. But then hear you 936 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 4: say that that's important. But you see, none of the 937 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 4: energy injuries come upper body. All of them had to 938 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 4: do with Lord, which means that man, you on your 939 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 4: ship too much. With you two on this set right now, 940 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: I have to ask our enforcemer is still important. 941 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 3: In the league? 942 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, who's the next one? Hell yeah, that's right. 943 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 7: I mean there ain't many out there, no more so 944 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 7: if it's important, and what the fuck we got going on? 945 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 5: I mean it's not very many vets out there either, 946 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean a lot of. 947 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 2: That real vats. Yeah, I've been around some veat trying 948 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: to back though. 949 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 5: Forty years old. Still take my a couple of jankie promoters. 950 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 5: There motors out there, you. 951 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: Know who you are, kind of steal checks and all 952 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: that ship. Like I think I think so you know 953 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I think this generation the talent is 954 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: markets smart matched. 955 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Marcus Marcus. 956 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: Marking out there, Markeith, Markeith. Markeith was good, Markeith was gallous, 957 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you got guys like that, 958 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: and he's a forcer and of it. 959 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: I think you need to enforce to win it. Oh yeah, 960 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: And if you look at the Boston team, right, who 961 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: is the enforcer? I say the coach? 962 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I damn sure it was Mail when they 963 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: first when they had him Emai, I used to look 964 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: down there in that mother saying May. 965 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 5: Was the hardest motherfucker. Team. He used to look at 966 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: shots I have. It's crazy that motherfucker. 967 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: Now, Joe, Joe, he May was the hardest motherfucker and 968 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: they had Marcus Smart and then once they lost Marcus Smart. 969 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: And I once again I said this on the last 970 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: one you got, it's a method to Joe Missula's madness. 971 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: You think people think I'm biased, I'm not biased, man, 972 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm real man. I don't have no problem saying that 973 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: about Joe Missoula. Man, there's a method to his madness. 974 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: I know people criticize his minor threes. But the motherfucker 975 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: is an analytical junkie. It's the reason why they're shooting 976 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot of threes like that. Bro, you know what 977 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't take nothing away from what 978 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: Boston has been able to accomplish. Did they have an 979 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: easier path? Yeah, but so fucking what were they not 980 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: supposed to travel it? 981 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 982 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: There, you know what, We're gonna wait till next year 983 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: cause it's a little too easy for us. 984 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 5: Fuck No, they did what they fuck they were supposed 985 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 5: to do. 986 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: But at the end of the fucking day, if you 987 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: can embody the personality of your coach or your leader, 988 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: and if Joe Mossula is their fucking coach, like you 989 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 1: talk about the motherfucker, I'm interviewing this motherfucker my skin crawler, 990 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: because I'm in Boston game five when they win the championship, 991 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: competitive confetti following on me. I'm about to fucking melt 992 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: by the way, the ship burning a hole in my skin. 993 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: The ship I'm in Boston of game five as they 994 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: wanted to fucking ship confetti burning a hold of my skin. 995 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: But the first thing, motherfucker, Joe Missoula said after that 996 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: goddamn game and say, look right there, we got room 997 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: for another betterer that. Let me know what type of 998 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: motherfucker he is. That Let me know what type of 999 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: motherfucker he is? 1000 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: He different? 1001 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 3: Can they win the next year? Then the room for 1002 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: number one? 1003 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 2: I think I think with Joe you can. I think 1004 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: with that coach you can. I think with that coach 1005 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: you can. And he ain't afraid to make ship up. 1006 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: Mother fucking man. I don't care no motherfuckers. Say, man, 1007 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: any coach come out there, your second unit for white dudes? Man, 1008 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 2: you tough man, hold on, no, but you got Sam 1009 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 2: House Man, you got that man, you got Peyton Princher, 1010 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: and you got to shoot over there. 1011 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 5: Man, he finishing games. 1012 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: We beating y'all about twenty today, said even that white boys? 1013 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: God for real? 1014 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: Hell your comment the blackest white dudes or the whitest 1015 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: black dud right, if you're still in the league when 1016 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: he made that comment, you would have been top five 1017 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: black and white. 1018 00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: Not easy. 1019 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you over here with us, put you traded somebody. 1020 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: Nderstand Mike mother man, Mike, mother man, this is motherfucker 1021 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: taking both the practice. Man, Remember everything, Mike Miller, tell 1022 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: me the story practice on the yacht man, you say, 1023 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: Pat Man, I leave out my house man, my monkey, 1024 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 2: don't unlocked the door. My monkey, don'e riding my dog 1025 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 2: down the street. Damn, Mike, what the fu you got going? 1026 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 2: The motherfucker did have a monkey. Pat, But I'm so 1027 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: happy you came in and show I forgot that. The 1028 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: practice was my foundation. It was my foundations. Remember everything. 1029 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people, the story used to yacht the practice 1030 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: that it is crazy the way. 1031 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: On time listen, d. 1032 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: Wade bron CB all the motherfuckers had drivers in cars. 1033 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: This motherfucker had a driver or a yacht put up 1034 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,959 Speaker 1: the practice. 1035 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 5: And he did have a fucking monkey. You're right, I 1036 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 5: forgot about that. 1037 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: And no matter if he was hurt, he played games. 1038 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 5: Oh for sure. 1039 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 2: I just tell Mike. 1040 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 5: Listen, chill Man. 1041 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: Showed right here by the socker man. I'm cool because 1042 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: I got to get my makes up. 1043 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: Everybody, remember the historical man if I shoot off man, Listen, 1044 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: he was. He was the first person and like to 1045 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: your point about shooting, he was the first person to 1046 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: show me what it was to be a real gym. 1047 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: I was a fake fucking I was going to the 1048 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: club and on that bus ship and where you're going Like, 1049 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to the gym, killer, I'll see you tomorrow. 1050 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 5: I'm coming back from the club. He going back to 1051 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 5: the gym game. 1052 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: Fuck you were just going at now you're going back 1053 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: at four five am. 1054 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 5: He was a real gen reor what the real gym? 1055 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 5: Red Will got to get her. 1056 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 2: To show her. Listen, I'm playing I'm cool killer, cool killer. 1057 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 3: Listen. They paid me to do a job. 1058 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 5: Had let it fly. 1059 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 4: They paid me to do a job. You show up 1060 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 4: and do your job. Quick questions for your fan questions? Okay, 1061 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 4: talked to him. What's the best player you guarded? Who's 1062 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 4: the best player you guarded? 1063 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: The best player off guarded, best playoff guarded. 1064 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: Matchups? Luca, Luca, ain't not pa what what's what? We 1065 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: all got to take one, and we all got to 1066 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: take one, Loui Gate. Look, look it was that was 1067 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: a rough one. No no, no, no, no, absolutely rough. 1068 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 5: That was a rough one. 1069 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: But we all got to take But I remember Paul 1070 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,479 Speaker 1: Mills that went so on me one time. 1071 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: Pauls I'm talking about I'm talking about I'm talking about 1072 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 2: nothing knocking. Do you got to think I take that 1073 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 2: that year? What he did to me in the playoffs. 1074 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 2: I took that ship all summer on a chain, right. 1075 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: But the story that people don't tell you the next year, 1076 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: mind you, I was with Minnesota and we played Dallas 1077 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: a bunch of times. Next year, he didn't score a 1078 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: bucket on me. 1079 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: Because I know how you are. That ship probably made 1080 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: That ship kept you up at night. I'm sure that 1081 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: ship kept you. 1082 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: Numbers kept you. 1083 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 5: That's what I expect receives. I expect. 1084 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 2: I didn't get it back in the playoffs so everybody 1085 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 2: could see it, But over the season I got my 1086 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: I expect. 1087 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure you couldn't. 1088 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 2: Wait. 1089 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 4: Let's talk about that because obviously everyone sees Luke and 1090 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 4: what what? 1091 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 2: What was the what was? The child was bigger, bigger size, 1092 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, and he flypped, right, So if you're in 1093 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: a bone this and I'm a physical defender and he's 1094 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: bigger and he flops, I can't touch him. I can't. 1095 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: I can't get my hands on it. And I'm at 1096 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 2: my best when I can. If it's a guy my size, 1097 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just grab him, hit him, okay, cool. If 1098 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: it's a guy bigger than I'm gonna get up under him. 1099 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: But with Luca, he flops so like I can't even 1100 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: be physical because as soon as I'm physical, he put 1101 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: in head down. Now there in the bonus. Now I 1102 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: got two files. I can't really play, you know. So 1103 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 2: I think it's a mixture of his size and his 1104 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 2: ability to sell and get calls. 1105 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 4: I mean, the reality situation like in the day of 1106 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 4: the league, the way the league's now, like they value 1107 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 4: the three so much, right, man, I tell these young 1108 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 4: kids all the time, if you don't start off with 1109 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 4: your jumper, you're you're You're wrong. No, right, Because even 1110 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 4: at thirty seven, thirty eight, when I retired, I couldn't 1111 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 4: you know, I was never the fastest doing all that left. 1112 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 3: I could live in that motherfucking paint. 1113 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 4: Now what I did when I got to the paint, 1114 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 4: I don't know, all right, I was thirty eight. But 1115 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 4: I'm saying it starts with your jumper. So with him, 1116 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 4: to me, size and shooting is what. Because he's not 1117 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 4: the fastest, now, not the most athletic, but he's smart, 1118 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 4: he understands his game. He plays everything off his jumper. 1119 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 2: He's he I'm talking about Mike, and like he might. 1120 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 2: People don't understand this he is six eight and a half. Like, 1121 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 2: let me tell you, let me like what I'm saying. 1122 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: The only thing that will stop Luca is Lucaea his habits, 1123 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: and that that is something that he can learn. 1124 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 5: He's still young. 1125 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 1: I think he's twenty five, but we speak on habits, 1126 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: and we had this conversation about habits and. 1127 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 5: You play with Joel Embiid. 1128 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: I love Joel and Bid, but I still think he 1129 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: has room to get better as good as he is 1130 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: if he can just somewhat tweak and adjust his habits. 1131 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: And I say this about Luca as well, growth tweaking, 1132 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: adjusting habits, better conditioning, better shape. 1133 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 5: At this stage of the game, this shit should be 1134 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 5: a lifestyle. 1135 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: I understand that you can't play basketball, you know, twenty 1136 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: four to seven, And I understand you can't play basketball 1137 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: twelve months out the year, but you can be in 1138 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: that more fucking weight room twelve months out of the year. 1139 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 5: You can be in that motherfucking weight room, toy. You 1140 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 5: can be in that motherfucking yoga. You know what I'm saying. 1141 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 5: You can be doing all the little things that. 1142 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 2: Look Before I flew out the bag, I land from Frankfurt. 1143 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 2: I take a motherfucking fight from me. He's to Frankfort, 1144 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: Frankfort to Houston. My camp started today, Camp Lockdown start today, 1145 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: I lead camp. I leave that started today. I wake 1146 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: up in the morning, five o'clock wait room at the crib. 1147 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 2: Got to get my session in. Lead there, get on 1148 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: fight fly here, meet with the European team and to 1149 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: see y'all. 1150 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 3: Slide. 1151 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 5: I still get up every morning. I still get up, 1152 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 5: still get up work out. 1153 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 4: Speaking of Camp Lockdown, top three defensive guards of all 1154 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 4: time in order, please. 1155 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: All time, all time, gotta go GP the glove off 1156 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 2: g P and you know what, I'm putting Michael Jordan 1157 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 2: in there. I'm putting Michael Jordan's g P one, m 1158 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 2: J two, and I'm going I'm going I'm going Kawhiet 1159 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,919 Speaker 2: three if he's considered guard man. 1160 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 5: Whatever you want. 1161 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't put Dinnis rob My next one to be 1162 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: Dennis Robing. 1163 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 3: But I lok a like afore many who's the easiest 1164 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 3: opponent to get under their skin? This should be a 1165 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: funny one. 1166 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say under the skin because we've grown now, 1167 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 2: you know. But I know when somebody don't like to 1168 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 2: play against me, you know, I know they want. 1169 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 5: To be Listen, I will tell you I think it's Rush. 1170 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: But then once again they played together and they cleaned 1171 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: it up like just how it was with Dame. 1172 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 5: But we got there Rush every game he slapped the 1173 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 5: ball out of russ hand, dead ball. 1174 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 2: Just with some ship, because you got to think, ain't 1175 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,439 Speaker 2: nobody doing that the Rush Rush doing that to everybody else? 1176 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 2: He's a bully. If he's six, fol he posting you up, 1177 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: he's taking off free throw line. He dunk and he 1178 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 2: flex and like what fuck? Like, man, I gotta deal 1179 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 2: with him. And I'm like, yeah, fuck it, I gotta 1180 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 2: deal with him. I like it, fuck it, I like it. 1181 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 2: But said I say beer. I say beer, though, okay, 1182 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 2: I say because we played together six years, so I 1183 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 2: don't see everything coming up. I don't see every movie 1184 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 2: he done worked on and all that. Soff now when 1185 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 2: we play each other, like yeah, come on, you pass 1186 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: that mother fucking down, pick you up, ninety four. You 1187 00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 2: know the fun going on. 1188 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: You told us about the day, how it was when 1189 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: you got to play with Russ. How y'all you just 1190 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: the same ship? Hey man, listen, we got ship to do. 1191 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: We're trying to win let's lit'sten be by gone. But 1192 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: because I heard y'all ended up being coolest. 1193 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm talking about throughout the season, wine, dinners everything. 1194 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 2: We like this throughout the season. So I coming coming 1195 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 2: to the Lakers to trade happen, Utah Lakers. I coming 1196 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 2: to the Lakers. They scrimmaging rust there right and I'm watching. 1197 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 2: I got on street clothes and ship. I'm just I'm 1198 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 2: watching them. Okay, cool, cool, cool cool. I do my 1199 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: little press interview. Russ right there, right there. I'm looking 1200 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 2: at them while I'm doing my press. You didn't have 1201 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 2: to be there. It's Russell Westbrook, MVP, mister Tripple double himself. 1202 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 2: They got to be right there off that right there. Okay, cool, 1203 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 2: Let me humble myself. What's up? That's what I can't game. 1204 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: We got to do. Come on, din on you, wine 1205 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 2: on you, wine on me, dinner on me still to 1206 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 2: this day now because of that. You know what I'm saying, 1207 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 2: So it won't words. It was just action for Russ, 1208 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 2: and you have to take too much. Him being right 1209 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: there while I was doing my press was all I 1210 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 2: needed to see. 1211 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 5: That's good. 1212 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 3: It was the best trash talking you had to play Dre. 1213 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: Draymond for that that all type of ship. Man, I say, man, 1214 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 2: is he getting away with it? But that happens when 1215 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 2: you win to tell the championship, you can do the 1216 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 2: you want to do. So yeah, I say, Drake, But 1217 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: dra know how to do it because he the same 1218 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: way with Dre. Dra knows his line, his you know, uh, 1219 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 2: Draymond Green's line with the ref is different than a 1220 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: lot of people lines with the reft. You feel me, 1221 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 2: Draymond can get in red face, he can spend off 1222 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 2: you know, anybody else get kicked out Dre. They they 1223 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 2: give him a little little you know what I'm saying, 1224 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: so he can say a lot more ship than the 1225 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: common NBA player. So yeah, Drake for sure, for sure. 1226 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 5: But I see that. I used to see that all 1227 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 5: the time. 1228 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 2: Man. 1229 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: Obviously have an opportunity to play with superstar players and 1230 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: you see them get away with it, and you'll be like, 1231 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,959 Speaker 1: if I did that ship, I'll be out for two weeks. 1232 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, put yourself awareness better be. 1233 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: They gave me a long row too, so I can't 1234 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 2: for sure let me do what I want to do, 1235 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 2: So shout out to the NBA man, I can't never 1236 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: I can't. 1237 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just used to have a little thing 1238 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: I used to say to him. I said, hey, man, 1239 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: I just want you to be your best version, that's all. 1240 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 5: Listen. 1241 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: I just want you to be your best. Get mad 1242 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: at me. I just want you to be your best. 1243 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 2: I like that shout out to the reps that got 1244 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: a hard job something. 1245 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: When I first got to the when I first got 1246 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: into the league and my first year in the NBA, 1247 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: it was about two months into the season. Boy, they 1248 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: were calling everything on me. I'm out there with braids 1249 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: and tattoos and all kinds of ship and they looking 1250 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: at it like this motherfucker needs to be a cash 1251 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: money studio right now, step on the course. 1252 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: At the time, that motherfucking. 1253 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: Rounds called me in his office and I sat out 1254 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: and he slid this piece of paper to me and 1255 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: I looked at the piece of paper. I looked at it. 1256 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 1: I say what if, I say, what is this? He said, 1257 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: it's the names of all the refs. I don't want 1258 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: you to go out in the game no more saying 1259 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: hey ref, I want. 1260 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 2: You to know all their names first. 1261 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: He said, hey, motherfucker, no more, addressing him as hey relf. 1262 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: He said, I want you to know all the first 1263 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: and last fucking names, and I want you to address 1264 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: him by the name. 1265 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 5: He said. This is gonna start the process from them 1266 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 5: with you. 1267 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 2: And you know it's so crazy for me, I've learned that, 1268 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 2: okay cool. I used to tell doc Hey, doc hey, man, 1269 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 2: put the reps on the board so I can see him. 1270 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 2: And we just had shave. Every game they do the 1271 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 2: little captains meeting, I bring Shaye up there. I man, 1272 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: make sure you know every every yest name. 1273 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 5: Ye, pass that and I passed that down. 1274 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 2: But yes, that went for Shay, but that went more 1275 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 2: so for me too. Yeah, I'm playing chess man, he's 1276 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 2: mo fucker still playing checks old man. I know y'all 1277 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 2: want me to play. Yeah, tell me talk about brother, 1278 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 2: want you to play forever? They need you know what 1279 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 2: I'm saying, so easy, so yeah, and I still that 1280 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: in every young guy, make sure you know the rep names. 1281 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 2: See then I go to meetings like I go to 1282 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 2: Captains meeting with a young guy. Oh yeah, I got him, 1283 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 2: hollerd know what this is, ref talking like yeah Mark 1284 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 2: ye yeah yeah, wait wait wait wait wait, my bad, 1285 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 2: young fella. You know the ref's names. You know what 1286 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 2: fun that who your bat? Which one of these motherfuckers? 1287 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 3: Joe back? 1288 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 2: Now? The raps like, yeah, get a Pat Love Love Love, 1289 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 2: Ralph Love Raph Yeah Everymber that ship, Yeah for sure. 1290 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 8: So I gotta I got a ton of the way listen. 1291 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 8: I don't want it to be over for you, man, 1292 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 8: So keep doing what you're doing. No absolute monster, brother. 1293 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 8: I'm proud of you. I appreciate you coming on the show. 1294 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 8: Ship whatever it is, well, I can. I can't block that. 1295 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 8: I appreciate that you can't block them up. Can. I 1296 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 8: appreciate you. 1297 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:33,959 Speaker 3: You're a real old g bro. I'm drinking man o Gez. 1298 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all. 1299 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 6: Man, yo yo, I'm not 1300 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm not