WEBVTT - Trevor Lawrence and the “Three P’s”

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<v Speaker 1>And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck with you, Buck?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Not too much, DJ.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a great opportunity for us to have a

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<v Speaker 3>little pot that'll be a little Bucky and Jaguar centric.

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<v Speaker 3>As we talked about the three piece, and I got

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you, I wrote an article this week on

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<v Speaker 3>the Jags, namely Trevor Lawrence and how the Jazz can

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<v Speaker 3>get them up and going, and I have to ship like,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of notes and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>commentary on the three piece, but I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't take that. That's a move the sticks thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that we created here. That's not a Blucky thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We have talked about that, And as we get into

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<v Speaker 3>this little thing on the Jaguars and how they can

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<v Speaker 3>get Trevor Lawrence up and going, I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that everyone knew that, Look, that is something that

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about on this podcast forever in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>how to get a young quarterback up and going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like some of the things we've trademarked

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, the three pots with trademark trucks and trailers.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely to revisit trucks and trailers. By the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>could be a fun little offseason project for us. Identify

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<v Speaker 1>some of the some of the true trucks in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe some guys that are trailers wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>become trucks. That's a fun little assignment for us. But

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<v Speaker 1>take us behind the curtain here, buck on what you learned.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the things that you know is buzzing

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<v Speaker 3>around the league like Trevor Lawrence. And I think the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why Trevor Lawrence's name it list is such a

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<v Speaker 3>strong responses. Trevor Lawrence signed a five year, two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy five million dollars deal. He was the number

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<v Speaker 3>one overall pick, and I mean going back to his

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<v Speaker 3>freshman year at Clemson, he was hailed as a generational talent.

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<v Speaker 3>When he selected number one overall, people are still waiting

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<v Speaker 3>to see him be the general rational talent. That mean

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<v Speaker 3>he hyped him up to be entering the draft and

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<v Speaker 3>coming into the league and so he has had a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a topsy turvy career in Jacksonville. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>that is because he's on his fourth dad coach in

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<v Speaker 3>his career, and he flashed you saw we saw the

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<v Speaker 3>playoff game in twenty twenty two when they came back

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<v Speaker 3>and knocked off the Chargers won a wild card game

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<v Speaker 3>and move forward. But it's been a lot of ups

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<v Speaker 3>and downs with his career, and so now Liam Cohen

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<v Speaker 3>is hired, James Glastone, the general manager, comes over, Tony

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<v Speaker 3>Boselli is elevated to EVP, and so they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out how do they unlock this player that we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about for so long in terms of being talented,

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<v Speaker 3>and then going to Jacksonville recently and then looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the team and the moves that they've done. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a reminded what we've always talked about, the

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<v Speaker 3>three p's and what's necessary to get a young player going.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm gonna let you remind the people what

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<v Speaker 3>the three p's are and then I will feel them

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<v Speaker 3>in on how the Jacksonville Jaguars have used those tenants

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<v Speaker 3>to really set Trevor Lawrence U for success going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>If I remember correctly, I think the first time we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed this was when Sean McVay had got to the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams with Jared Goff, and we saw turnaround happen with

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff and we're trying to figure this thing out

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<v Speaker 1>on what all happened, and we came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>three p's, which were as a quarterback. And it used

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<v Speaker 1>to say, okay, but this is a young quarterback. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>just for any quarterback to be successful, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>have right play caller, you need to have some protection

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<v Speaker 1>up front, and you need to have some playmakers. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very simple way of looking at it. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of truth in there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of truth in there. And so it's

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<v Speaker 3>funny that I didn't remember if it was Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 3>or not. That kind of was like the origin of

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<v Speaker 3>where we talked the genesis, where we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's great that that is the case

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<v Speaker 3>because with Liam Cohin, I think Liam Cohn is uniquely

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<v Speaker 3>qualified to do it. Liam Cohn was a long time

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<v Speaker 3>assistant coach for the La Rams, and when you think

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<v Speaker 3>about the La Rams, I'm gonna drive this parallel in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of Liam Cohn's experience and.

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<v Speaker 2>How it works with Trevor Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the La Rams, it was Sean McVay helping

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<v Speaker 3>Jerrett Goff get up and going former number one overall

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<v Speaker 3>pick didn't go well early with Jeff Fisher, Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 3>finds a way to really help him become not only

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<v Speaker 3>a Pro Bowl quarterback, but a guy that goes to

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<v Speaker 3>a Super Bowl based on his improvement under his tulitis tutelage.

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<v Speaker 2>Later, the La.

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<v Speaker 3>Rams win a Super Bowl with a former number one

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<v Speaker 3>overall pick and Matthew Stafford. Liam Cohen had been elevated

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<v Speaker 3>to like office of coordinat had been around, so he

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<v Speaker 3>saw that development and growth. Liam goes on his own

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<v Speaker 3>after a stopping Kentucky and Lance in Tampa, where he

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<v Speaker 3>has another number one overall pick in Baker Mayfield, who

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<v Speaker 3>has a career year in Tampa under his watch. So

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<v Speaker 3>when you think about one coach who's been around three

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<v Speaker 3>number one overall picks who have all played well within

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<v Speaker 3>a system or within a certain direction, you think, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>if he can take all those lessons and deal with

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<v Speaker 3>another number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>In Trevor Lawrence, it should play out well.

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<v Speaker 3>So because of the experience and because of watching someone

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<v Speaker 3>who is super talented in Matthew Stafford, someone who's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of an underdog.

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<v Speaker 2>In Baker Mayfield, but he really made.

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<v Speaker 3>Him play at a higher level, and then Jerry Golf

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<v Speaker 3>who kind of falls somewhere in between. Liam Cohen has

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to draw on a lot of different experiences

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<v Speaker 3>to use the right tools to help Trevor Lawrence go

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<v Speaker 3>to the next level. And as we talk about tactics

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<v Speaker 3>and strategies in those things, those things are involved, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's also the one on one relationship where you buy

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<v Speaker 3>that you get the trust and the buy in from

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<v Speaker 3>the player to believe that the things that you're saying are.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Liam Cohen can point to a bunch of guys

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<v Speaker 3>in similar situations who've had a lot of success following

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<v Speaker 3>this blueprint.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to lead me to this next point here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>that first p, then Buck and you look at where

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<v Speaker 1>they are, and you just gave the resume of Liam Coleman,

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<v Speaker 1>why that should be a good fit to handle that

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<v Speaker 1>pee in terms of the play caller who's done it

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of different quarterbacks and has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to elevate their play. I feel like they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot with that pe if we were then go

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<v Speaker 1>through the rest of the process here where they stack

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<v Speaker 1>up right now where they are in Jacksonville. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>fun part is to talk about the playmakers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have likened this Jaguars team in a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of different ways to the Rams. Now there are people

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<v Speaker 3>come from the Rams, so a lot of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that you do culturally is very close or reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 3>what the Rams have done to be a very successful program.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I look at this team offensively, they remind

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<v Speaker 3>me of those early Rams teams when you had Robert

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<v Speaker 3>Woods and Cooper Cup and Brendan Cooks, guys that were fast, dynamic,

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<v Speaker 3>They were interchangeable, but they had big playability. When I

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<v Speaker 3>look at this current iteration of the Jaguars receivers, I

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<v Speaker 3>see Brian Thomas Junior, who had looked by far the

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<v Speaker 3>best rookie season of all the wideouts given his dynamic effects,

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<v Speaker 3>his impact, and really the big plays he produced as

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<v Speaker 3>a rookie. You now bring in the number two overall

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<v Speaker 3>pick in Travis Hunter, who is a dynamic player in

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<v Speaker 3>his own right. You add an explosive element in Deyanmi

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<v Speaker 3>Brown for the Washington Commanders, who really began to scratch

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<v Speaker 3>some of the potential, show some of the potential and

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<v Speaker 3>the postseason of what he can do. Now this is

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<v Speaker 3>a faster, more dynamic supporting cast around Trevor Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 2>So you not only have the ability to push the

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<v Speaker 2>ball down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Which plays to Trevor Lawrence's strength, but now the horizontal game,

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<v Speaker 3>the catch and run things that we saw the Rams

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<v Speaker 3>do in those early years, those early days with Jared Goff,

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<v Speaker 3>you can implement some of those things. And with a

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<v Speaker 3>tied end like Brenton Strange being able to control the middle,

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<v Speaker 3>this offense is more dynamic, but there are more ways

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<v Speaker 3>that they can attack while making the game very very

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<v Speaker 3>easy for the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's hunting explosives and they've added man over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. They've built a real explosive unit there,

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<v Speaker 1>a core of guys, and I think that does take

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<v Speaker 1>care of that p I think they're in pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>shape there when you look at those playmakers. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable where they are with a play caller, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>a dynamic, explosive group around him in terms of some

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<v Speaker 1>skill set players to help elevate Trevor Lawrence. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where the rubber meets the road for me, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious as someone who's close to the situation, has that

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<v Speaker 1>even been there in the spring and seen these guys

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<v Speaker 1>past protection? Where are we at here?

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<v Speaker 2>Buck? We know DJ, We've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>There are two ways that you can go about approaching

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<v Speaker 3>to the offensive line. We can use the no Tomato

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<v Speaker 3>can process where A it's not necessarily about having the

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<v Speaker 3>high end guys all over, but it's making sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we minimize the deficiencies that you have on the lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So you may not have all great players, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you have good and solid players, you can get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe the Jaguars have opted for that because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of conversations like a, should they go and

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<v Speaker 3>get a high end guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Where should they use an O line guide?

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<v Speaker 3>They used a first round pick a year ago or

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago, on Anton Harrison, but they

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<v Speaker 3>have elected to kind of try and put it together

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<v Speaker 3>to eliminate the deficiencies on the offensive line. Six new

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<v Speaker 3>faces amongst the offensive line to you compete for some

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<v Speaker 3>spots that are available. You have Walker Little, who's a returner.

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<v Speaker 3>You then you look on the other side. You have

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<v Speaker 3>Anton Harrison, you have Ezra Cleveland. But by no means

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<v Speaker 3>are any of those guaranteed an opportunity to start. You

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<v Speaker 3>bring six new guys in from all different walks of life.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mharrie comes from the Baltimore Ravens, Robert Hainsey, Chimmiandoka

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<v Speaker 3>Fred Johnson. You have two draft picks and Whyt Mullum

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<v Speaker 3>and Jonah Monham Monham and you put those guys in

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<v Speaker 3>there and you let them compete. And what I would

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<v Speaker 3>say is different. A lot of times people talk about

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<v Speaker 3>a competition, but it's not really a competition. We already

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<v Speaker 3>have the depth chart drawn up in the office cause

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<v Speaker 3>we know, hey, this is probably how it's gonna start.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna tell them on the field that's a competition,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is where we're gonna get to. But each

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you they're really going to have a

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<v Speaker 3>competition because no one really knows who that's starting five

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be. And you like to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>competition raising the level of play throughout the building. This

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<v Speaker 3>is an opportunity for the group to get better because

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<v Speaker 3>it is a very editive environment and no one really

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<v Speaker 3>knows who's going to get those those final chairs in

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<v Speaker 3>the game of musical chairs.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we use the scale that we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on here before, uh, the one that that the grading

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<v Speaker 1>scale that we had on on the Ravens, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a scouting system that's kind of made its

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<v Speaker 1>way around a lot of the NFL. But we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about three to seven. Right, five is dead average, six

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<v Speaker 1>above average, seven excellent, you know, four below average, three poor.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm going to grade them, which would be a

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<v Speaker 1>fun assignment. By the way, if you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>take your team and run them through this on the

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<v Speaker 1>three piece with that scale. If I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>play caller, I'm probably gonna go a six on Liam Cohen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, the recent success that he's had and

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<v Speaker 1>I like who he's learned under, So I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>him a six on that three to seven scale. Playmakers

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<v Speaker 1>around him I'm gonna go I mean, I could probably

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<v Speaker 1>fudge and say six plus.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna get to seven, but

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<v Speaker 1>they got a chance, they have a chance to be

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<v Speaker 1>a seven. But I'm gonna keep them at a six

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<v Speaker 1>for now.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty good enough. And then when you get to the

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<v Speaker 1>pass protection, I'm probably going to be optimistic five, optimistic five.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say if the play callers could trend

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<v Speaker 1>six north, I would say pass protection could be five south.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, I think at the end of the year

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about this pass protection as

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<v Speaker 1>a four or a five. I don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to be a six, but I think the

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<v Speaker 1>playmakers could be a six or a seven.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the thing that you and I know and

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<v Speaker 3>watching a bunch of ball, the play call and the

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<v Speaker 3>playmakers can make the protectors so much better. Right, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a way that you can call the game that limits

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<v Speaker 3>the exposure that the offensive line faces from the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether that's more quick game, whether it's catchup run.

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<v Speaker 3>Concepts, whether that is doing a bunch of different things

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<v Speaker 3>moving the launch point, so the defense never really knows

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<v Speaker 3>where the quarterback is going to be There are things

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<v Speaker 3>that the play caller can do to really enhance and

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<v Speaker 3>protect the protectors. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at the Jaguars, the offensive line is

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<v Speaker 3>really where the rubber Mester road and where it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be sided. How good they are are offensively. If

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<v Speaker 3>they're solid, meaning if they just play at a five level,

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<v Speaker 3>this seemed to be good enough to get to the

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<v Speaker 3>ten win mark because the offensive weapons on a perimeter

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<v Speaker 3>are legit. But if the offensive line doesn't play well,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have a chance to be able to to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get it done. So we could talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the play call and the playmakers, but ultimately their

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<v Speaker 3>fate will be decided on how to protect his play

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<v Speaker 3>at the line of scrimmage. But that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>teams in the National Football League. The old line played

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<v Speaker 3>matters and you have to pay close attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so how would you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put your coaches hat on, Buck, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you right now, you're gonna play the Houston Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna line up and you're gonna see Danil

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter on one side. You're gonna look over to the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, and you're gonna go, oh crap. It only

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<v Speaker 1>gets worse from there. Will Anderson's on the opposite side.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got de Nico Autry, who's gonna roll through there.

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<v Speaker 1>They signed Darryl Taylor. That's a lot of dudes with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of juice coming at you off the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna put on that play caller, you know

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<v Speaker 1>about all those playmakers you've got, what's the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to try neutralize that?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, man, I think the ball is going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to come out, and I think what you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to rely on.

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<v Speaker 2>Is you're going to have to rely on your ability

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<v Speaker 2>to get in.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, man, if you go back and look

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<v Speaker 3>at the twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen Rams when they got

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<v Speaker 3>in those tight, clustered alignments, and it prevented you from

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<v Speaker 3>really putting your hands on the receiver, so you never

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<v Speaker 3>can neutralize your speed.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I think it stars there.

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<v Speaker 3>How can I create different ways to get free access

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<v Speaker 3>for my playmakers, because the belief in the building has

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<v Speaker 3>to be that our playmakers are better than your defenders.

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<v Speaker 3>But we got to find a way to protect the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks that we can get to them. I think condensed

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<v Speaker 3>and cluster formations, lots of motion to keep them on

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<v Speaker 3>the move, and then it's going to be about how

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<v Speaker 3>can we find a way to put the best five

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<v Speaker 3>out there. In my estimation, I would think that like

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<v Speaker 3>Walker Little and Anton Harrison, I get purse bited the apple,

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<v Speaker 3>but they got to be able to hold up in

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<v Speaker 3>one on one situations because in a perfect world, you

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<v Speaker 3>want to get all five out in the route and

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<v Speaker 3>you want the quarterback to be able to have all

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<v Speaker 3>the weapons out there so we can utilize it. But

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<v Speaker 3>it puts more on sixteen to identify where the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>is coming from and to get the ball out. So

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<v Speaker 3>as much as I talk about the protection, can number

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen beat defensive coordinators with his mind by understanding where

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure is coming from and knowing where I got

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<v Speaker 3>to get the ball out to allow my playmakers to

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<v Speaker 3>do where they do really real in space.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last question for you here, and again this

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<v Speaker 1>was a quick one today, just tackling this issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can find this article on NFL dot com where

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky jumped into this. We've talked about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>different things that we've coined on our show over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Three p's tractors and trailers. No tomato cans. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that one as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Three those are three.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we should copyright all these, right, those are.

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<v Speaker 2>Three of them.

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<v Speaker 1>The fourth one is the confetti tests. We've always talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the confetti test on the show. Can you envision

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<v Speaker 1>a world where you know, right place has got to

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<v Speaker 1>be in place? But is Trevor Lawrence good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be standing there as the confetti falls from the ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be a Super Bowl winning quarterback?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he has a couple of things that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to have.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the talent and he has the character.

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<v Speaker 3>The talent is it means like, look, he's the first

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<v Speaker 3>round over our pick for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't see people that size, that arm, that athleticism

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<v Speaker 2>that can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But from a character's standpoint, I think he matches the

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<v Speaker 3>tests in terms of his football character, his work ethic.

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<v Speaker 2>His leadership ability.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I would say that I would say that if

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking at the way the team has to be constructed,

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<v Speaker 3>I think more Jerret Golf than Matthew Stafford in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of protecting with the schematics to be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>it done. I feel like Matthew Stafford, you can drop

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<v Speaker 3>in any system and it works. I don't see Trevor

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<v Speaker 3>in that, but I see Trevor as good enough to

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<v Speaker 3>have the confetti fall on his shoulders if put in

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<v Speaker 3>the right system, which I think he's in, surrounded by

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<v Speaker 3>the right players, which is certainly there. That to me

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<v Speaker 3>is a recipe for success. So I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 3>what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>You've mentioned this before, and I think you might even

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<v Speaker 1>have said this when we were chatting with our buddy

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<v Speaker 1>John Gordon about the importance of confidence with Trevor. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about the three p's, we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about building the team around him and putting him in

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<v Speaker 1>a position where he can be successful. I think, more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else for him and the Jags buck if

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<v Speaker 1>he can get to the starting pistol with with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of confidence and a lot of belief not only

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<v Speaker 1>in his coaches and his players around him, but in himself,

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything else, I think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the driver whether this thing works or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think a lot of it is like the

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<v Speaker 3>intrinsically motivated, the confidence that comes inside, But I believe

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<v Speaker 3>it's different than that.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've heard Tom Creane talk about this on podcasts

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<v Speaker 3>in the past in terms of like, if the team

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<v Speaker 3>feels like the coach truly believes in them, the players

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<v Speaker 3>will play for him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still like middle school football, right.

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<v Speaker 3>If they feel like the coach really believes in them,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna get ice cream sandwiches at the end, They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna play hard.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I feel like this is basic of that.

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<v Speaker 3>If Trevor Lawrence really feels like Liam Cohen is doing

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<v Speaker 3>the best for him, believes in him and believes that

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<v Speaker 3>he's his guy, he's gonna raise his game up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why that relationship, that communication that they have,

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly, the belief, the connectivity, the trust that they

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<v Speaker 3>have in one another will ultimately determine the success.

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<v Speaker 2>If number sixteen believes.

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<v Speaker 3>That the head coach sees him as his guy, then

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna play at another level. And so I think

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<v Speaker 3>that is the thing. And so over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>training camp in preseason is going to be really important

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<v Speaker 3>for Liam and Trevor to get that relationship that bond

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<v Speaker 3>established because if number fifteen, number sixteen feels like them

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<v Speaker 3>coin is that battery pack in his back. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>play at another level, probably a level that we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen him play at in this leepe.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me if I'm crazy on this one. I this

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<v Speaker 1>has become a trend over the last maybe five to

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<v Speaker 1>ten years. I'm all in on it. Where and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no data to back this up. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not part of our hot or Not segment, But buck

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<v Speaker 1>during this time of year, this lull, this dead period

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up. If I don't see that my quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>is gathering his receivers for some type of a can

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<v Speaker 1>coon trip southern California, Florida where we're gona try and.

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<v Speaker 2>Get everybody together to throw a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a little concerned, as you should.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, man, you got to be able to do extra

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<v Speaker 2>and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Commitment quarterback playmakers them spending extra time away from it,

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<v Speaker 3>them building bonds beyond what the workouts are, having dinners together,

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<v Speaker 3>becoming friends, like being able to finish each other's sentences

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<v Speaker 3>because they spend so much time together. We always talk

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<v Speaker 3>about like the relationship part of the business, but how

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<v Speaker 3>the relationships really matter for the quarterback. It's really important

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<v Speaker 3>that all those guys are connected because when the storm comes,

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<v Speaker 3>as it always does, man your ability to believe in

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<v Speaker 3>one another, to stay together in the storm, to whether

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<v Speaker 3>the storm that's ultimately what matters. It also determines whether

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<v Speaker 3>you come out of the storm or.

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<v Speaker 1>Not, yain no doubt. Well, look, this was a quick

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<v Speaker 1>one today, but a fun one. You mentioned about Tom Crean.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually recorded that today, an episode of Tom Crean

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to release I believe July week. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that one out, which was a great conversation, so

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<v Speaker 1>be on the lookout for that. We continue to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grab some of our favorites to talk to on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod and really makes it a fun time year

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<v Speaker 1>for us and I hope you guys will enjoy it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So that's can do it for us today.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you guys, and we'll see you next time

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<v Speaker 1>right here on.

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<v Speaker 2>Move the sticks.