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<v Speaker 1>Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Okay, I am

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<v Speaker 1>joined by a country music superstar. She has countless hits

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<v Speaker 1>and awards under her belt, Plus she has new music

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<v Speaker 1>coming out, an album called Unbroke and the best legs

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<v Speaker 1>in the business Welcome with me. Sarah Evans, you are

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<v Speaker 1>my idol.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have had ten if I could have. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've been following you all these years and watching you

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<v Speaker 2>just like pop these babies out, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>want that, but I can only have three. I was

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fertile.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know how many is all together?

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<v Speaker 1>Five fight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you have three? I have three. But I

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<v Speaker 2>come from a family of seven, and that's yeah, where

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<v Speaker 2>do you like not? I'm number three? I was between

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<v Speaker 2>the two boys, and then there was me and then

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<v Speaker 2>two girls that were sixteen months apart. And then my

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<v Speaker 2>mother and father divorced after five kids, and then my

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<v Speaker 2>mom got remarried and had two little girls, have two

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<v Speaker 2>half sisters. So I was always kind of alone. Like

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<v Speaker 2>in the family, I didn't I didn't have a partner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's sad. Yeah, that's kind of sad. Effect Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably the reason that because my whole

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<v Speaker 2>family's musical, as I explained on stage, so it could

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<v Speaker 2>be the reason that I just really went after the

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<v Speaker 2>dream of music, because you know, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make a life different and of my own sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of right age four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at age four, our parents realized that we could

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<v Speaker 2>sing and you know, do music. And I'm so grateful

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<v Speaker 2>to my mom because we were farmers, and farmers are

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<v Speaker 2>not only always broke, but they're so busy. And my

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<v Speaker 2>mother could have been and you know this, having five kids,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom could have just said, my kids are so

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<v Speaker 2>talented and they can do music, and that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been it. But she made the efforts and went out

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<v Speaker 2>and bought music equipment and found musicians and did that

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<v Speaker 2>for us. And I'm so great because, you know, a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Way before Chris Jenner Way, Mamager.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, my mom was the original Christian. My god, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>totally like you know what I'm saying. As moms, we

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<v Speaker 2>could have been just too tired to do it always.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very grateful that she pushed us. One time I

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<v Speaker 2>asked her, why did you do that? You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>we were so busy and we had so much going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, because I wanted you to be more

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<v Speaker 2>than just you know, play sports in a small town,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted you to get out and so I

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<v Speaker 2>owe it to my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, well and yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, wait, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't talk to you right now unless I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the story of my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so my whole life I had like terrible teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>My best friend for my fiftieth birthday was like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge dynasty. He's like, I'm giving you. It's like Oprah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>look on your seat, you got new Veneers. Whoa way Govenirs?

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<v Speaker 1>You got venirs?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so are you telling me this because my

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<v Speaker 2>teeth are crooked? Oh my god, let me lick your

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<v Speaker 2>teeth there, and I need Veneers. I want vine ears.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so hot and I want to lick your teeth. Sorry, sorry, Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband's right here.

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<v Speaker 2>She would probably love that. Oh my god, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Little crooked tooth is turning me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, an, wait, so you have temporaries in right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I got yesterday and I'm lisping and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interviewing Sarah Evans and this is not okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the need to tell you, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get it out of the way, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I never would have known. You're doing great with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you in pain? And do you have pain pills

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<v Speaker 2>that you could share?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, I love you already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you too.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, if you hear me lisping, it's not because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drunk, it's because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the reason. Yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're white and they're crisp and there they look amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all the same age. We were joking that there's

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<v Speaker 3>hot flashes up in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done in menopause. You're what I'm done with it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure done. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like has an end?

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<v Speaker 3>It's ended if one year at tori, if one year

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<v Speaker 3>or no period, allegedly, you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you're and what Harry, listen to me

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<v Speaker 2>get pregnant during minopause? Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>My friend told me that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to be pregnant again. But then my

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<v Speaker 2>name my friend, my son Avery's twenty four, okay, he's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite. And then my daughter, Audrey, I mean Livy

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<v Speaker 2>is twenty one, and my daughter Audrey is nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the reasons I wanted to bring you together

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<v Speaker 3>is you really have a lot of your journey in common.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, i'd love to have another baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I would too. Oh my god, it's the best. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no better time in your life than when you bring

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<v Speaker 2>that baby home. I never complained about losing sleep, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it every second of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Same same Jay. Well, I don't know if you're open this.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you impregnate both of us? It's just a question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, at this point we're in our fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>One might have to be done through ibs. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be me and me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sister. I'm totally in menopause, but I'm still bummed, like

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<v Speaker 1>I should have freezed my eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm begging my children to have children because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just steal the grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I fucking love you because I have

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<v Speaker 1>this idea. It's like a lifetime movie idea where a

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<v Speaker 1>mother steals her kids eggs because she's dating a younger man.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best idea ever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called my daughter's eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I be in it. I'll play an egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh can you be the lead? By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to tell you you have the hottest legs

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<v Speaker 1>the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you their gift from my mother. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything to like earn them. It's just she's got

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<v Speaker 2>great legs, and I, you know, thank God got that

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<v Speaker 2>from her. I mean, thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, let's go back like you started. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know you started a four, but you started in

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<v Speaker 1>your twenties becoming famous. What age do you think you

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<v Speaker 1>became famous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I became famous at age twenty eight or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, okay, because I decided I'm not gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby until I have a number one record, because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be able.

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<v Speaker 1>To a woman yes, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to able to have enough money to have a nanny,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was not gonna go on the road and

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<v Speaker 2>not take my kids with me. I would have just quit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm friends with Martina McBride, and so one day

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<v Speaker 2>it was huge pregnant, sitting on the couch with my

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<v Speaker 2>first child. I never found out what I was having either.

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<v Speaker 2>I always made it a surprise. All three, yep, all three.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, what am I gonna do when the

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<v Speaker 2>baby's born? How am I going to tour? And she said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, anything that the record label asks you to do,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to say you have to pay for a nanny,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not doing it without bringing the baby. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had my first number one record, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>got pregnant, and that's when I feel like I became

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<v Speaker 2>famous because with that pregnancy, I gained over fifty pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember sitting on the couch and I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a Faith Hill video come on TV and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that bitch and then she she's beautiful, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god. And so I just was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>grow my hairlong, I'm gonna get so skinny, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a hot mom. And then my song

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<v Speaker 2>went number one and then we came out with to Fly.

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<v Speaker 2>So right around twenty thirty, I've felt famous.

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<v Speaker 1>So Taylor Swift says, you were stunted at the age

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<v Speaker 1>you become famous. Interesting, But you say twenty eight twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I would say I act about twent

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<v Speaker 2>ine thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you feel stunted at that age?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel stunted at that age, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>how as you age. I remember my dad telling me

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<v Speaker 2>this one time that you never feel different after like thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>like you kind of always think the same way about clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>about fashion, about style, about you know, having fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you ever really change your mindset after about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty in your thirties, because my dad was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>still feel like I'm in my thirties. So stunted might

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<v Speaker 2>not be the right word. And we all know Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift is terrible with words. But but yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel much different than I did twenty four years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when Avery was born.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't look much different.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, you don't either, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're here in Napa Country in the vineyards and

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<v Speaker 1>I introduce you twenty one days to break a habit? Yes, correct, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched you. I fucking cheered from the crowd, and

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<v Speaker 1>that hit home. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I come from I've always heard that if

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<v Speaker 2>you can do anything for twenty one days, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>broken a habit, you know, like or you've started a habit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know, if you if you're like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna jog for twenty one days straight, then you're you've

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<v Speaker 2>entered into that habit. So I was writing with Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Trott and Melissa Fuller. Jeff Trott co produced all Sheryl

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<v Speaker 2>Crow's records, co wrote all of her songs. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>if It Makes You Happy by himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yeah and wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went in and I had this idea because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a lyricist. I don't like love writing melodies. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>much more of a lyricist. So I was like, Jane

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<v Speaker 2>and I were separated at the time, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to write a song that was kind of on

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<v Speaker 2>the funnier side of things, like if you can do

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<v Speaker 2>something for twenty one days, you know, you would break

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<v Speaker 2>a habit. But I couldn't even go two days without

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking.

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<v Speaker 1>To Jay or one thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like I say, we were separated, but we were

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<v Speaker 2>always together, always texting because we're soulmates and we're so

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<v Speaker 2>in love. And so nevertheless, we ended up writing the

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<v Speaker 2>song they say it takes twenty one days to break

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<v Speaker 2>a habit, And then at the end, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it be funny if we got on the calculator

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to figure out how much time that is?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's five hundred hours, two hundred minutes, twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred seconds. That's twenty one days. Is there a habit

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to break? Yes, Sarah, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just got out of an eighteen year marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, so I'm trying to break that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's really hard because depending on the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes like your therapist or whatever, we'll say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>my therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>Your therapists have one. So yeah, yeah, I'm happy you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jane and I are going to be in marriage

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<v Speaker 2>counseling for the rest of our lives because it is

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<v Speaker 2>truly so helpful. It's so helpful. And then outside of therapy,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't talk about anything, so we save it all

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<v Speaker 2>for therapy. I mean we talk. We're like dead signs

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<v Speaker 2>now they say that's yeah, you know, helpful. And so

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the situation, if you're going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>go no contact to make it easier on you, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty one days is where the idea for that

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<v Speaker 2>song came from. I never succeeded. When Jaye and I

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<v Speaker 2>first got married, we used to try to make it

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<v Speaker 2>a rule with certain people in our lives that we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to do texting back and forth five words

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<v Speaker 2>or less, Yes that sounds good, or I will be

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<v Speaker 2>there at five just to keep the emotion out of

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<v Speaker 2>it all that, because there's so much emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm more interested actually in my future right

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<v Speaker 1>and like the future human I partner with?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, what is that look like? I believe that if

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<v Speaker 2>you are really going to divorce, you're really going to

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<v Speaker 2>be okay. If you're really going to do that. My

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<v Speaker 2>opinion is, you know that needs because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>friend who's going through this right now and she's really

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<v Speaker 2>worried about that. I never thought about it because I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that there's no way I'm not ending up with Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just knew that. But even though we

0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.280
<v Speaker 2>went through a hard time, I knew that we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to have grandchildren together. He adopted my children, he

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<v Speaker 2>raised them, so I knew that we were But my

0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.200
<v Speaker 2>friend is thinking the same thing that you are. What

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<v Speaker 2>is what if I end up alone?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to think about balance down, ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends are like, I just want you to get what

0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you deserve right, always the thing, and no one can

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<v Speaker 1>know what you deserve except for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you you know, I don't know at all

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<v Speaker 2>where you stand. But what I always tell my friend

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<v Speaker 2>who's going through a divorce, trust God be still, let

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<v Speaker 2>him work it out. But it is a very scary

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<v Speaker 2>thought to think about being alone at fifty. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you will not be Tori. How do you know, Sarah Evans?

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<v Speaker 2>You're beautiful, love your home name, you're beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids. Who wants that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But you A lot of people do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people do. I mean, if I were you, I

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<v Speaker 2>would focus more on healing from your marriage. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then moving to that now I've been divorced already. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was divorcing him was a totally different because I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't stand the motherfucker. And so Craig, Yes, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think I did. Think you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Married a year later after we met met Okay, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, Well, you know this is so funny. So

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<v Speaker 2>Craig and I did a lot of marriage counseling. I

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<v Speaker 2>I always felt guilty because I didn't truly love him. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I have three children with him, and I'm as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't change that for anything in the world. Yea,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has not been in their lives at all.

0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.960
<v Speaker 2>He has not been present at all. He hasn't seen

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<v Speaker 2>them since twenty fourteen. Heartbreaking, yes, but thank god they

0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.080
<v Speaker 2>had Jay. I mean, Jay stepped in, raised them, you know,

0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:59.200
<v Speaker 2>took care of them. So I was a lot more

0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.880
<v Speaker 2>worried about the things you're thinking about right now when

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<v Speaker 2>I was going through.

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<v Speaker 1>That divorce at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, however, I was only in my early thirties,

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<v Speaker 2>so I knew that I would meet somebody, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>different at fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>You worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jay and I were introduced by a marriage counselor Jake.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that not hilarious? So he and his wife were

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<v Speaker 2>separated ex wife. Craig and I were going through marriage

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<v Speaker 2>counseling because I didn't believe in divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't fathom it. My parents divorced when I was twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>It killed me. My dad was a wonderful dad, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was a bad divorce dad, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was always chasing after him and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get his love, and so I developed a lot of

0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 2>daddy issues. I know, that's such a common overused phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>I did now, And so Craig and I counseled with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy named Joe. He went down to Alabama and

0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.400
<v Speaker 2>counseled with Jay. So Joe calls me and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never done this before because I've spent my life

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep marriages together. But I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>you should stay with Craig because there's a lot of problems.

0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 2>He said, And I have somebody that I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to meet. And I was like, no, no, no, no,

0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm never getting married again.

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<v Speaker 1>Your marriage counselor set you up on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what the heck isn't that funny? And so he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a divorce's final, you call me, we'll meet.

0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you the person is. I'm not gonna tea you.

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.840
<v Speaker 2>So we were My whole family were like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>who could it be? And so then when I found

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<v Speaker 2>out it was Jay. Jay played football at Alabama. He

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 2>was a quarterback superstar down there, won the national championship

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety two. Then he played professional ball, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it more if nothing else, you guys would

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<v Speaker 2>be great friends. You've been through the same pace, say that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be good friends.

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was. I put the kids to bed one night,

0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I was doing the dishes. I went into my office

0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.400
<v Speaker 2>at home and I emailed Jay and I said, Hey,

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it's Sarah Evans. Joe told me about you. Went back

0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to the kitchen. Yeah, and I heard the ding on

0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.560
<v Speaker 2>my computer and I'm like, he's been sitting here waiting

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.760
<v Speaker 2>for me to email him, because he responded immediately, and

0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.879
<v Speaker 2>so we just started talking NonStop. We had a very

0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:42.359
<v Speaker 2>fast courtship. Our divorces were final one day apart. We

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:46.240
<v Speaker 2>have so much in common. He has four children, So

0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I ended up moving to Mountain Brook, Alabama, and we

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 2>raised our family to the kids. WHOA, you beat me?

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<v Speaker 2>I did, but I didn't raise his children. They were

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<v Speaker 2>with us in the normal uh parenting plan like every

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 2>other weekend under that kind of stuff. My kids were

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.560
<v Speaker 2>with us all the time because their dad, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just high tailed it out of town and went to Oregon,

0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 2>where he's from. And yeah, so it's it's none of

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.360
<v Speaker 2>it's easy. It's hard. Marriage is very hard, and you've

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 2>got to work at it, and you know, you have

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to have two very healthy people. Jane and I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about ourselves and about our marriage and about

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<v Speaker 2>what is and is not appropriate and acceptable and and

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:37.399
<v Speaker 2>We're going.

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<v Speaker 1>Forward, understood. Sarah and Jay, you guys were apart for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, though, what happened there?

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.959
<v Speaker 2>Did you cheat on me while we were so kid?

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gidding, Sorry Jay, she found out.

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I found my bad. I think we were both miserable.

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I was miserable. Now. We were going through some very

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 2>tough issues, and you know, I spoke about it on

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.760
<v Speaker 2>my podcasts and kind of I was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 2>it and then I'm going to try to let it

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 2>go because it's it's quite embarrassing to our children, honestly

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids are the same, I want to hear this.

0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So now I just I know that that we've

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 2>both changed so much and our marriage is incredibly healthy. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We communicate now, even today I was like, is something wrong?

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Is done it?

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Da?

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 2>We communicate so well, where before that might have turned

0:21:55.040 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 2>into a big fight, but today it was just an

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:04.399
<v Speaker 2>normal conversation between two married people. But during the separation,

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I was drinking all the time, just miserable because I

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:17.719
<v Speaker 2>missed my husband. I wanted him back. But now I

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 2>say that I was not that way with my first

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<v Speaker 2>marriage at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever. Ever, it says something.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, in the last two weeks, you've each been the

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<v Speaker 3>top story on People magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that helpful?

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 3>Hurtful, harder? What is that for both of you?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say for me, it's very, very hard because,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, my four step children fucking hate it. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they hate it because it's embarrassing. Yeah, and when

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you're famous, and as you know, when you're famous but

0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you've got family members that aren't, well, they're like, I

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.199
<v Speaker 2>didn't choose to be famous. You're the famous ones, So

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>don't talk about me. You don't talk about my dad,

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 2>don't talk about you know.

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 1>My fifteen year old says that exact thing all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't choose this, right, Like, you're born into it.

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>How we make our money right? Literally? Like sorry, yeah?

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 2>But you know, with me, I can talk to my

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 2>three about it a lot easier because they've been with

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 2>me every single day of their lives. When you're a stepmom,

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:38.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a different thing because you're trying very

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>hard to you know, I'm not trying to be your mom,

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 2>but I love you as though you were mine, but

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. You know, it's it's a man. It's a

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 2>tight rope to walk. Yeah, it really is.

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Step parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's hardly Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>My soon to be X has a girlfriend, a living

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:07.679
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend who has met the kids, and I like her.

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh good, They actually really like her. She's supportive of him.

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 1>They keep each other accountable, they're sober, and yeah, it's

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a different.

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 2>That will be very very very good for your children

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>if you and she get along, agreed.

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I hope the partner I end up being

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>with is the same person for my kids, right and

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 1>going forward?

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, I will pray that for you.

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for step children who I love. It's making things

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>harder between us and I wanted to go the opposite way,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>but then at the same time, truth, it's the truth

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>when it's out in the public.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very hard to to decide whether or not

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. And I asked Jay, for instance,

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 2>the song Pride, I said, if you want me to,

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll make that third person she he you know, instead

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 2>of and he was like, absolutely not. This is your

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>song that you wrote. This is your story to tell,

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>even though it involves me in all seven of our children.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But for healing, for our marriage. We've got to be honest. Yeah,

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 2>otherwise we're just going to go back into the same cycle,

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 2>cycle and dysfunctional patterns. So, you know, I was very

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 2>proud of him and grateful to him for saying, no,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you sing that song exactly as you wrote it, don't

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>change it. And then he also you know, gave me

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.080
<v Speaker 2>permission to speak about it on the first episode of

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 2>my podcast. I didn't go in the detail, but it

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>was clear enough. And now I just you know, I

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>want to stop embarrassing our kids and and just move

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.479
<v Speaker 2>forward with life, and I want them to know that

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>everything's fine, that they're safe, we're safe, and we're all good. Now,

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that's not always the case. It doesn't always happen that way.

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>In your great relevant I mean, you're an amazing, iconic performer,

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>but you're still relevant in the press, and they're always

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about you. They want fascination. So that's

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>something that's just going to keep coming up, right, It's hard. Yeah,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>how do you manage that?

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, my hop in prayers of the

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>further away we get from our separation and from all

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 2>of that, that it'll just become old news. You know,

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the news cycle is so fast, and that's my hope

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 2>and prayer. And then the more that people see that

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>we're together and that we're in love. And you know,

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Jay and I have a lot of things that we've

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 2>opened up about in therapy that are not excuses for

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>anything but reasons. And that's why I say it's helped

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>us so much, and we'll be in therapy for the

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>rest of our lives because you begin to understand each

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>other a lot better, like I never oh, I never

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>knew you felt that.

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Wait, can you give me the number of your therapists

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>because I'm hopeful they'll set me up with someone that

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I am and I just want to meet somebody I

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>will get.

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Sorry you're you don't have to worry about that. You

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about it.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Fucking worry about.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't I know you're worried about it.

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I really do.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>With five kids, I really understand like a safe space,

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that's all I understand. I really do. But trust me,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 2>you are not going to be alone you you're too beautiful,

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you're too funny, you're too You're just open and you're

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>like me and a lot and we're both very open

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and but I get it not meat before. I don't know.

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've always liked to you, I've always

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>followed you. I've always been interested in you.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are Sarah and j two point oh better than

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 3>version one?

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>For sure? Sarah and Jay marriage two point oh is

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>probably I mean it's night and day from marriage on.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, And we named it that, yeah, marriage

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 2>two point oh yeah, just because no, No, I just

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>get emotional. But Jay is a great man who made

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>some bad choices. Everybody deserves forgiveness and love. He certainly does.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>He's done a lot for me, and he's done so

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>much for my children, and he's a great father to

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 2>his children. And so I just couldn't be that person.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 2>That's just like, I'm not gonna try.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And I know so many fans were like why right,

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Like it's over right.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 2>People don't understand, and it's a tough it's a very

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>tough topic because.

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It is you don't been there.

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a tough topic.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>They're in a marriage. Sorry, mine didn't work out. Yours

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>worked out, but I had that that happened where my husband,

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>well it was different. Mine was infidelity. And then you know,

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.719
<v Speaker 1>people are like why are you staying? And I'm like,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>because I'm choosing to try to work on this.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, and we've got five children, and yeah that I

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>mean so yeah, that was a big part of it.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's funny because like sometimes Jay, just like

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>any marriage will just piss me off or you know,

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>drive me crazy. I'm sure I drive him crazy too,

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>but we love each other and it's it's hard to explain,

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I'm not sitting here I have.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>To explain because it's no one's fucking business.

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>You're right, you're right, literally, you're right.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's what it comes down to. Is they all

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>weigh in on our lives. Sorry interpt. No, no, no, no, they

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>all weigh in our lives. And at the end of

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the day, it's no one's fucking business between it's between.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>The two of you, right, And people think they.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Know and that sucks, yeah, because you take so much

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.959
<v Speaker 1>of that on because you're a public figure and you

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>take it on, you take it on and it influences

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>how you feel about your partner, and it's not fair.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's perfectly said. That's right. It's very very difficult,

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not on some high horse sitting here saying,

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, but we worked it out and we stay

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>together because I haven't. I have divorced, and I feel

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and I know people are gonna maybe maybe balk at

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>this or whatever, but my reasons for divorcing my first

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>husband to me were much more They were much more right,

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean than if I were to divorce day. I mean,

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>those those were much more valid. That's the word. Yeah.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think in your music you never sounded.

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Better or thank you you do.

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Your songs sound like the old Sarah Evans, if that

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>makes sense.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's more about I'm competitive with myself and I'm

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>a perfectionist, so I just want to I'm a better

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>singer now than I was in my twenties. I just

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>want to get better and better and better all the time.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>When I get to the point where I feel like

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not singing great, that I'm quitting because I will

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>not go out like we heard Sarah Evans tonight, No,

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>that is not worth it to me.

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.719
<v Speaker 1>You're a phenomenal singer.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you funny. Shit, you're funny.

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>So are you listen all what?

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of cute.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I like it. I like it maybe.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep it.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you think in your fifties, for both of you,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>you are more willing to talk like is that because

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>of the age we're all at now, where it's like,

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what, we can just be authentic?

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I think, I mean, I I feel like honesty is

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>the best policy always.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, otherwise they create your narrative.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>You're right, Yeah, you're so right, and you don't gotta

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm never gonna sit here and tell anybody

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the minute details of mine and Jay's issues.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Tell me after, yeah, okay, yea perfect tell you after.

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I texted you before the podcast and told

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you everything. But I'm never going to do that.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, is brushing so hard?

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Honesty is the best policy within reason, and don't don't don't, yeah,

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 2>don't humiliate your children. And but I do feel that

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>in the fifties, I feel like there's so many younger

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 2>women that need our advice and need us to be honest,

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 2>because how else are we gonna help them or stop

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 2>them from getting into a situation that we've been in

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>that we weren't happy with.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Mama. I'm just doing to heal myself, like I props

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to the younger generation. But I'm just like, woof, I

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>can't take it anymore. I couldn't take it. Everyone was

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 1>creating so much drama and the wrong drama. And I,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been schooled in the thought, you know,

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>from the nineties, like you don't comment, you don't do that.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I was finally like, I can't. Yeah, I have to

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>tell my story because it's my truth, sooner than later.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do it later, like, I just

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>want to get it out there.

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 2>And what you said is correct. They'll create it if

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't tell it, they will. You're not going to

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>be alone. I just know that.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, call your marriage counsel, like after this, okay, okay,

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding.

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Is it a boy or girl? Well, the one we're

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>using now is not the one that set us.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Up as a different I want the one to set

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>you up.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll call him and I'll be like, who has divorced

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>recently and who would like to date Tory spelling. Oh

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>my god, that's what I'm gonna.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Do, Sarah as because I don't want to be alone.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>You are lonely, by the way, I'm not. Everyone's like, oh,

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you're just so scared of being alone, Like, no, I'm

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>never alone. I have five kids, right, I'm never alone.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not that I just want to partner. I want

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>absolutely like someone that gets you want a person, you

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>need a physical thing. I want someone that gets my

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>brain because my brain it's pretty big.

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no one.

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Has ever seen it. And I swear I'm like.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Cool, why don't you go on that famous person dating site? Oh? Riah,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I never.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Ry. So it's wild because you know, I've been married

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>eighteen years.

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>There were no dating apps, right, So.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I would go through with my friends and then I'd

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>be like, that's funny. And now I'm like, oh, is.

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>That going to be me?

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And my kids are mortified. They hear that because I

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>tell everything to my kids and they're like, yeah, you

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>can't be on a dating app. And I'm like, how

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>am I going to meet someone? And then I go,

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be the old cat. I have one cat.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be the old cat lady. No, I'm

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 2>just I swear I have a I have a good

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>intuition about things. And you're not going to be alone.

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be alone for very much longer.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, wait, what's his name and what's his sign?

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know signs, but I'm an Aquarius. I'm

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 2>just gonna go ahead and say Aquarius and February what

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>February fifth?

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, but how old is your youngest child?

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Seven?

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you need to wait a little bit. I can't

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit. Oh, just a little bit.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>See, you've been through this in between sorry j ear muffs,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Like in between things when people are like, just work

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>on yourself, just be alone.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go fuck yourself. It's hard because you want to

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 2>say you be alone, bitch.

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I hate when people say that. Yeah, it's terrible.

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>You just need and.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, do you sear all the people they're married

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and happy and I'm like in relationships. Yeah, Like, don't

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>tell me to be alone and get to know yourself.

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't fucking want to get to know myself.

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, you do know yourself. I know myself exactly. Yeah.

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>And you're I want to say too, you're a tremendous mother.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Since I was fifteen, so you know what, I know myself.

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>You're a tremendous I want to make sure you hear

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 2>me say that you are a.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Evans.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>You are are you? Are you bad at taking compliments?

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Really bad? You're a superstar? Are you good at taking compliments? Yeah?

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I like them?

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh wait, I like taking it?

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, give me wisdom, I mean, how do you do it?

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Probably because I didn't get a lot of compliments growing up.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean that bad in any way, shape

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 2>or form about my mom or my dad. But I'm

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>from the Midwest where farmers. We're very stoic, non emotional,

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't know if the word is compliments,

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 2>but I do love validation. I crave validation. Yeah, I

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>get that.

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So on my bucket list, which I was married for

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>eighteen years, never thought it would happen, was like, I

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>never dated a musician?

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Do that? Who? What about Kenny Chesney? A single?

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh Kenny Chestney? Really?

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Well? Is he still cute? He's cute. Kenny and I

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 2>are friends and.

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I know he resorts to you reason. Yeah, job. I

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>was going to bring it up later.

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>But am I supposed to do that my podcast? Yeah,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to think of somebody. I'm going to think

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>of somebody for you, Okay, I'm going to find a musician.

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 2>That's my dream. Musicians are the great people. Because she's you, well,

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Chestney will we'll cheat on you most likely, but

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 2>he's ready fook us up immediately.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm all in. I'm just kidding, talking you tonight to

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>get his fucking DM.

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding, Kenny. I love you. This has been incredible.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Really, Oh my god, I love you.