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John Middlecoff three 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: and Out podcasts. That's me, that's the show. So let's 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: dive in Eagles forty nine Ers massive game, some stuff 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: that I've spent a lot of time thinking about, Jalen 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Hurts and Brock Purty and wanted to discuss them. Adam 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Schefter said there's gonna be seven to ten job openings 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: this early January. Obviously there are already a couple and 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: why that would be very very good news for a 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: guy named Bill Belichick. As well as the AFC playoff picture, 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: some thoughts on Harbaugh after the Ohio State Michigan game, 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: and we will do the Middlecoff mail bag as well 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff as the Instagram fire 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: in those dms. But first make sure you subscribe to 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. Also subscribe to the YouTube. Appreciate everyone that 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: has and let's podcast go search three and out merch 41 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: and get yourself a hat. But first, before we dive 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: in to some Eagles forty nine ers thoughts, how about 43 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: we do a little exercise. 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Now, I've 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: never thought the Eagles didn't win it fair and square. 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: They knocked out brock Purty, but the moment perty went down, 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and given he was their third string quarterback, they had 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, who then also got a concussion. The forty 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: nine Ers played a half where they couldn't throw the 67 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: forward pass. The Eagles could have won that game playing 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: seven guys on defense. It was not a fair fight. 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Once the Eagles create the mismatch, right, But now we 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: get at least hopefully a precursor of what's gonna come 71 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: again in the playoffs, because I think we all would 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: say that the game coming in the NFC Championship Game 73 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: is Eagles forty nine Ers. I think it would be 74 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: an upset at this point if it isn't those two teams. 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: And I've been thinking long and hard about like Jalen 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Hurts is a guy that you know, I did not 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: like a lot coming out of college because I didn't 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: think he was a good enough passer. And he's blown 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: by my expectations and anyone that watches football, right, if 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: you watch college football, no one would have acted like 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was going to become what he's become on 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the field right now, right, just like the Eagles would 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: have told you when they drafted him in the second round. 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: They never thought he was going to be this. And 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: I was watching the Tiger Woods press conference day. He's 86 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: making his comeback after a seventy million surgery to have 87 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: a fused ankle. The dude's got a fuse back, a 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: fused ankle, and unlike lot of younger athletes, right he's 89 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: in his late forties. He has hundreds of millions of 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: dollars in the bank, he has an unlimited amount of accolades. 91 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: So at this point, he's just playing for the love 92 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: of the juice, right, Like I gamble, because if I 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: go put one thousand dollars on Cowboys Seattle Thursday night 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: and I win the bet. Once I actually win the bet, 95 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't do as much for me as the three 96 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: hours of watching the game. So even if I win 97 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: nine hundred dollars, right, if I bet am minus one 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: to ten, the juice in the action of that game 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: is basically what I'm paying the thousand dollars for now. 100 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: If you lose, it sucks. But it's also the juice 101 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: and being on the edge of your seat. That's why 102 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: athletes compete, right to be in the arena, the competition. 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: It's why these guys you're able to pay Steph Curry 104 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars, Patrick Mahomes fifty million dollars and you 105 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: see zero drop off in their effort, right, because it's 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: not ultimately about the money when you're actually playing. And 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: one thing I underestimated with Jalen, And this is the 108 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: hardest part about the scouting community because I say it 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: all the time in any other industry. If I'm acquiring 110 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: a thirty forty fifty million dollar a year company, two 111 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar purchase acquiring assets, I have a pretty 112 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: good idea on an Excel spreadsheet of its liabilities, of 113 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: its cash flow, of what I need to be worried about, 114 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: of some of the long term question marks of its 115 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: fixed costs. Like everything's pretty black and white. Yet when 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: I draft a player, I can't measure the stuff upstairs. 117 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I can't measure your wiring. I can do a lot 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: of research on it. I can feel pretty good about 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: how seriously you take football, how much you care. But 120 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't ultimately know until I'm around you. And it's 121 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: why people often complain, like how do you keep missing 122 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: on these draft picks? Because these draft picks are human beings, right, 123 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Human beings change. I'm dramatically different at thirty nine years 124 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: old than I was at thirty five years old, let 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: alone twenty five or twenty years old. If you ain't grown, 126 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: you're dying. And I think most human beings will probably agree. 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: We change with time, successes, failures, money, family, you name it. 128 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: We grow, We just and not always positively. And the 129 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: one thing you see with Jalen, and this is the 130 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: thing I respect the most, is how seriously he takes 131 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: football like this thing Like listen, they get to play 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: a kid's game for a lot of money, and ultimately 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: it's fun. But I don't care what you do, whether 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: you're a musician, whether you're a football player, whether you're 135 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: a podcast. Everything eventually becomes a job. And whether a 136 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: lot of people aspire to do what you're doing, a 137 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: lot of people want to be sitting in your seat. 138 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: You never want to take that for granted. But when 139 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: you're paid or when you. Your job is to do something, 140 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: whatever that may be, you better take it pretty seriously, 141 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that at least the quarterbacks 142 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: that I've grown up, especially in my high school to 143 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: present day life watching Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, 144 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Now they take this shit seriously, 145 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: like this ain't just a side hobby. Hell, this ain't 146 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: just I kind of like football. This is a way 147 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: of life. And now your personality shows through it. But 148 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: I think specifically when you watch Peyton and Tom, it 149 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: was like, goddamn that they are not screwing around when 150 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: it comes to football. And I think the same thing 151 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. And now listen his mannerisms when he 152 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: scores and he doesn't celebrate, like his focus it's like 153 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: he's a coach on the field and he said over 154 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: and over what he's taken from Nick Saban. When you 155 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: think Nick Saban, you think, God, that is a serious 156 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: m effort, right, And when I think Jalen Hurts, I 157 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: think very very seriously. But he's not serious in the 158 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: sense where he can't interact with anyone because his teammates 159 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: swear by the guy and I think part of that 160 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: is whenever you are working with or working for, and 161 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: let's face it, when you're the quarterback, everyone's kind of 162 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: underneath you, especially on the pay scale. They kind of 163 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: look at you like you're the guy when you walk 164 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: in the building. The team goes as you go, right 165 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles, when they're playing like shit, usually Jalen's playing 166 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: like shit. When Jalen starts throwing touchdowns, making big plays, 167 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: they start looking a lot better, like he's the heartbeat 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: of the team. You have to be able to depend 169 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: on these guys. One of the reasons I turned on 170 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: Trey Lance in terms of a player, I'm like, yeah, 171 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: I just get rid of them. I'm over this because 172 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I saw the players and I put a lot of 173 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: stock into what elite players think about their teammates. When 174 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: they put all their chips in the middle of the 175 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: table and they go, I love this guy. I want 176 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: to play with this guy, even when he has limitations. 177 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I go, God, they must bring something to the table 178 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: that we don't get to see. And I saw the 179 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: forty nine ers do that for a long time with 180 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, who was a very limited player, but they 181 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: really liked them, and being liked by your teammates matters 182 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: a lot, but not just gaining respect from them. Is 183 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: through your work ethic, is through your toughness, and is 184 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: through knowing that you are reliable in gaming. It doesn't 185 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: mean you're always gonna win, but it means that you 186 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: will do everything humanly possible to help your team. And 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: I think Jalen obviously has been very productive and they've 188 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: won a lot of games. But this is why they 189 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: turned on Carson Wentz because Jason Kelce, Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, 190 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: these guys. Lane Johnson saw something in this guy that 191 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: is not quantifiable. And listen, he has quantifiable skills. He 192 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: throws a great deep ball, he's an excellent athlete, he's 193 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: a great runner of the football. I mean, he's got 194 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns through whatever ten games, Like he's gonna get 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns on the ground on top of twenty eight 196 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: that he's gonna throw, So he's gonna accumulate I don't know, 197 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: forty five total touchdowns. Right when you think about some 198 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: of those guys like throwing forty forty five fifty touchdowns, 199 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: most especially the pocket quarterbacks, the Brady's, the Mannings, they're 200 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: not running for any So if Jalen throws thirty touchdowns 201 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: and accounts for another fifteen with his legs, like, that's 202 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: the same fucking thing. Like he scores a lot of points, 203 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: and you gotta bed. It's a productive based business, production 204 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: based business. Right, you win, you lose, You help your 205 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: team win, or you lose. You either get the job 206 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: done or you don't. You get fired, you get cut, 207 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: like it's it's the ultimate meritocracy, like Frank Reich said it. 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: Like listen, I like Dave Temper, I have a lot 209 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: of respect for him, but this is a business and 210 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: I didn't get the job done. I got fired. Like 211 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: it's understandable he didn't fire me because we're six and five. 212 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: We're one and ten, right, we fucking suck. And I 213 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: think you go back to Jalen, his separating factor and 214 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: still to the moment against the Bills, from the moment 215 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: he got into the league is upstairs his mind, and 216 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: it goes back to some of the incidents over the 217 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: course of his career. Last year, Siriani lighten them up, unfazed, 218 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: didn't yell back, not that he can't if he wants 219 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: to yell back, that's fine. You gotta be able to 220 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: take that and mental toughness to me with athletes. But 221 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: I think in the business community is what separates people 222 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: because it's so easy anyone when things are going well, 223 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: you're making a lot of money, you're winning a lot 224 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: of games, you're throwing a lot of touchdowns. Right, if 225 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: you're a movie star, your fucking movies are a hit, 226 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: it's easy to be excited. It's easy to want to 227 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: get out of bed and enjoy life. How about when 228 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: shit's going poorly? How about when you lost four games 229 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: in a row. How about when you're injured, how about 230 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: when your team's not as good. Those are the type 231 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: guys ultimately you want. And it's hard, right, And this 232 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: is the hardest part about scouting. How do I quantify 233 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: what they've been through? Well, look at this quarterback matchup 234 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Now, listen, he had first class college problems. He 235 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: was at Alabama, he got benched, he was told by 236 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, you're not good enough, we don't want you 237 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. And then he went to 238 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and he had an elite year. Right, but he 239 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: was told like whether it's Nick Saban or whether you're 240 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: at Fresno State, if you're told you're not the starter, 241 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: like I'm sorry. Rock Purdy begged better programs to give 242 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: him a scholarship. They wouldn't. He was mister Arizona. And 243 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: I looked up today in twenty nineteen, the All Big 244 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Twelve Quarterback first team was Jalen Hurts. The All Big 245 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Twelve second team was Brock Purdy. Then Jalen Hurts goes 246 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: to the NFL twenty twenty twenty twenty one first team 247 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: All Big Twelve Quarterback Rock Purty and I see similarities. Now, 248 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: Jalen has more physical ability, he's got a better arm, 249 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,239 Speaker 1: he's a better runner, and he's just bigger and stronger. 250 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: But I think both guys upstairs. One of the reasons 251 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: that one guy's second round pick came in with Carson 252 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Wentz was never gonna start, wasn't named the starter like 253 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: this guy. Most people thought it was a fucking crazy 254 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: pick by Howie Roseman. When when you're the seventh round pick, 255 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: no one's even paying attention to you. I didn't even 256 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: think the guy was gonna make the team. And now, 257 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: for whatever, four or five years later, Jalen Hurts he's 258 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: a superstar two years later with Brock Purdy like as 259 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: he goes, the forty nine ers go, like when he's 260 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: throwing touchdowns, they're winning. So it just shows you sometimes 261 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: going through a little adversity, having the mental fortitude you 262 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: have to have it. It's impossible to not have mental 263 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: toughness and be a good NFL player. It's definitely impossible 264 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: to be a high end NFL quarterback. And I think 265 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Jalen has it in spades, and I've seen it with 266 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Purty as well. So very very excited for this game. Massive, 267 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: massive matchup. I think there's more in the line for 268 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers because ultimately, like the Eagles are 269 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna be the one seed. I'm sorry, they just are. 270 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: So the Niners are gonna have to go on the 271 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: road again, and the Eagles have just beat the Chiefs 272 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and the Bills knockdown, drag out games. I would imagine 273 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a little gas for this. They do 274 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: not need to win this game. To me, the Niners do. 275 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: If the Niners don't win it, coming off extra rest 276 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday, it'd be hard to take them as seriously 277 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: against the Eagles in the playoffs, right, I think if 278 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: they win this game. It doesn't mean the Eagles are 279 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: not gonna win in the playoffs, but it makes this 280 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: game just I think it has a chance to have 281 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: a little bit, especially the way the NFL is shaping out. 282 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Like when I was a kid with the Cowboys and 283 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Like whoever won that game was 284 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl. I think that's probably the case. 285 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: And the best part, like those games, we're gonna get 286 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: it twice. It happened forever with Peyton Manning wins with 287 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: the Colts and the Patriots. It's like, whoever's winning that game, 288 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: and the Patriots won a lot more than Peyton did, 289 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: was gonna win the Super Bowl. So I fucking fired up. 290 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter told Pat McAfee that he thought seven to 291 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: ten job openings this Black Monday, you know that week. 292 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: There's already been a couple, right, The Panthers fire their coach, 293 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: The Raiders have fired their coach. I wrote down, you know, 294 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the Chargers, I think we all think are going to 295 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: fire their coach. The Bears, I'm sorry, ebra Flus, you're 296 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: seven and twenty four, like you're done. I think the Patriots, 297 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that Belichick's not going 298 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: to be the coach moving forward Washington, Ron Rivera is 299 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be the coach. And then there are a 300 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of curve balls right like Tampa Todd Bowles, New 301 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Orleans with Dennis Allen. I don't even know. Maybe there's 302 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: a couple like Coud Sean McVay just go to Amazon 303 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: for twenty million dollars a year. I'm sure there are 304 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: a couple, you know, Mike Vrabel. The conversations won't die, 305 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: even though I think that's crazy, but it is what 306 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: it is. So there're gonna be a ton of openings 307 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: even if there are just seven. Ask yourself, this, are 308 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: there seven candidates? Are there seven candidates right now that 309 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: you would feel good about? Start naming them? Like even 310 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, probably big football fan, like 311 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: who is And let's assume this. Jim Harbaugh is not 312 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: some guarantee to leave Michigan. As Collins says, his dad 313 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: lives next to him. He fucking loves the place. They've 314 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: stuck by him, his team. Sweet, he's really got the 315 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: thing rolling. Why can't he become a Kirby or Nick Saban? 316 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what if he wins the national champion, what 317 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: if he wants to win another one? You know, there's 318 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: no guarantee. I think we all assume that. But he's 319 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: been there for a long time. I'm now, I don't 320 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: have great faith to be like Jim Harbaugh's definitely coming back. 321 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: So if he doesn't come back, Beside the Lions, guy like, 322 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: who are the great coordinators? Who's like, oh, that's the 323 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: next Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan. To me, do you 324 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: know what this shaping up? Bill Belichick is gonna be 325 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: the pick of the litter. He is gonna be the 326 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: team or the guy that teams are gonna want because 327 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: he does a couple of things for you right away. 328 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Let's face it, he steals headlines. If you're the Chargers 329 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: or you're the Bears and you hire Bill Belichick or Washington, 330 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: you don't think like, I'm sorry, I don't care how 331 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: shitty these last couple of years have gotten. Google the 332 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: fucking resume. It would make waves. Now, obviously, the story 333 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: the moment he is relieved of his duties. The Patriots 334 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: are cool with trading him, however, that would work, That 335 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: would be a big story. But whenever he goes somewhere else, 336 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: it'll be by far one of the biggest stories in 337 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: recent memory. When it comes to coaches, think about Sean 338 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: Payton this year. He's a great example. I think hiring coordinators. 339 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Let's say the Bills were to fire Sean McDermott. Can 340 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: you afford with Josh Allen, same thing with the Chargers 341 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert to risk it on a coordinator? Can 342 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: you do that? Like I listen, if you listened yesterday, 343 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: you know the information I've been told by people in 344 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: the league about Brian Daboll. It ain't pretty inside. So 345 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: you just think next year it's gonna get better. I 346 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: don't you think he's just gonna change his ways? What 347 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: if these coaches want to leave, what if they have 348 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: a whole new staff. Right their quarterback situation is a disaster. 349 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: They just won a meaningless game, so it's gonna be 350 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: harder for them to get one of the top quarterbacks. 351 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: And this notion that every coordinator is just some can't 352 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: miss guy. It's like quarterbacks in the draft. And I 353 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: thought Sean Payton early, like most people like, this is crazy. 354 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: This is not gonna work. But there's a reason they 355 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: pay him eighteen million dollars a year. He knows what 356 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: he's doing, and he can handle being a head coach 357 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: because being a head coach is about more than calling plays. 358 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: It's about more than you know developing a scheme against 359 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: a certain defense. It's about knowing when to get rid 360 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: of the locker room cancer. It's about supporting your coaches. 361 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: It's about being hard on your coaches. It's about supporting 362 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: your players. It's about being hard on your players. It's 363 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: about managing the entire operation, and a lot like quarterbacks, 364 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: anyone can handle and pump their chest out. When you're winning. 365 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: You win a couple games in a row, everyone's on 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: their knees giving you a reach around. Oh it's great, Yeah, 367 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: it's easy. How about when you lose three in a row. 368 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: How about when your team gives up seventy freaking points. 369 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks you're a fraud. Everyone wants you to fire 370 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: their coordinator, everyone thinks all your players suck. Can you 371 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: keep the ship from sinking to the bottom of the lake, 372 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: from just hitting the iceberg like the Titanic and just 373 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: going under and everyone dying and the season being a 374 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: waste like last year with Nathaniel Hackett and he can now. 375 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Are the Broncos gonna win the Super Bowl this year? 376 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Are they even a lock to 377 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs? Of course not. But I think we 378 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: all have to acknowledge, like Sean Payton knows what he's doing. 379 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Is he, you know, Belichick in his prime or Andy Reid? 380 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Probably not? But is he pretty freaking good relative to 381 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL? Hell yeah, hell yeah. So. 382 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: I think when you're hiring these coaches, and if you're 383 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: a team, if you're the Chargers and you're paying all 384 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: this money to Justin Herbert, I can't afford to hire 385 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: a coordinator. I can't risk hiring I don't care how 386 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: awesome the coordinator's resume looks. What if it's just one 387 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: of those guys that flops, then I just waste more 388 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: time with the quarterback. I'm paying all this money. How 389 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: is Bill Belichick not the guy right now? Maybe Bill 390 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: doesn't want to come to California. He's a Northeast guy, 391 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: likes kind of that corridor, which I get it. We 392 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: all are product of what we like, right I like 393 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: the West Coast, though, you know, i'd move to Nashville 394 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: or Jupiter, Florida tomorrow if it made sense, if it 395 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: penciled right, maybe eventually I do, but you know, as 396 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: you get older, maybe things change. Maybe it's just professionally 397 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: you look for the best opportunity. And I think he's 398 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: going to be hard pressed. Argers are much more equipped 399 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: to win if they have Herbert then the unknown of 400 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: drafting one of these rookie quarterbacks. So I think everything 401 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: he went through the last couple of years with Mac 402 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: Jones has to probably push him toward dealing with a 403 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: veteran and the moment he becomes available, and let's face it, 404 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna become available. He's not gonna coach the Patriots 405 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: next year if you watched them, like it's over. And 406 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: sometimes divorces aren't just like everybody hates each other. Sometimes 407 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: just like it's time, it's time. Not every breakup is contentious, 408 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: it's not. It's like listen, I mean, it's hard, it's emotional. 409 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: You have a lot of equity built up if you're 410 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: the Crafts and your bill, but sometimes just time, and 411 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: I think it's just it's just kind of time. And 412 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers make a lot of sense, a 413 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: lot of sense for Bill. One thing I was I 414 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: was looking at is the AFC playoff picture. A lot 415 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: of people have been like, call your segment the hurd hierarchy, 416 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: but do it the middle and just do all the 417 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: middle teams. I was thinking, like, could I do call 418 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: it like the mud and just do the worst teams. 419 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: I haven't quite figured it out. It hasn't quite come 420 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: together in my mind, and I think about it a lot, 421 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: trying to find a specific name for to do something different, 422 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: because like people hit me in the DMS and they're 423 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: ran like any anyone, can you know, rank the top 424 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: teams like everyone does different versions of that. Now ranking 425 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: the shitty teams that would get kind of boring. I 426 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: do think the middle would be kind of fun. And 427 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: when I say the middle, like some of the fringe 428 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: wild card teams, some of the teams right on the outskirt. 429 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: But I did look at the playoff picture today and 430 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: I saw that in the AFC basically five through ten, 431 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: so there are six teams for basically three spots. The 432 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: Steelers are five, the Browns are six, the Colts somehow 433 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: are seven. Texans, Denver, Buffalo, And what I think is crazy. 434 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: And I said this yesterday I've never seen a team 435 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: get more credit for getting yards but not many points. 436 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers last week against a Jake Browning led Bengals. 437 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: It's like, we got four hundred and twenty two yards. 438 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: It's like, oh shit, you score thirty. What do you 439 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: win the game by thirty to thirteen? No, we wanted 440 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: sixteen to ten. But we're headed in the right direction. 441 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: It's like Jesus, the bar is low, which, in fairness, 442 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: the bar was low. But again, think about the last 443 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: time a team made a coordinator change and you talked 444 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: about like yards, Well, hey, they've been scoring fifteen points. 445 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: They scored twenty seven points. It was awesome. They scored 446 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: sixteen points. Belichick said this forever. Yards are so overrated. 447 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: If I lead the league in yards allowed, but I 448 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: have the number one scoring defense, who cares? Red zone 449 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: defense matters? Thread holding you to field goals, not touchdowns turnovers? 450 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: How many yards I give up to me? It's somewhat 451 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: of a hollow stat in the sense of are you 452 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: converting those to points? Right? Are you doing anything with that? 453 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: So I think the Steelers, listen, they're gonna make it. 454 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: They play the Bengals again, just based on their schedule, 455 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: but I didn't see anything last week that would make 456 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: me feel stronger about where they're going. And then the Browns, 457 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: I would say that's one team that I'm a little 458 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: nervous about. One their star player just got injured, right, 459 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: he had an MRI's day to day, But if Miles 460 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: Garrett is not one hundred percent, that's a big problem 461 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: for them. And two, I'm sorry, as long as Dorian 462 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson is your quarterback, I'm not taking you seriously. 463 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: And I said this, I think I tweeted this out 464 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: during the game when he got rocked in Denver and 465 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: they threw a flag for you know, I don't even 466 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: know what the unsportsmanlike conduct late hit whatever the fuck 467 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: on the on the quarterback. The defender, in my mind, 468 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: did nothing wrong. Maybe he launched a little bit. To me, 469 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: he's excelling through the quarterback. It was on the backup 470 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: quarterback for running out basically right into the guy. And 471 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm all listen, I am the number one proponent. Part 472 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: of the reason football has separated over the years and 473 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: it's in its own little world right now. Is the 474 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: number one television property in America is because of the 475 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: star quarterbacks, and because of offense, it's not even disputable. 476 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: So I'm all for protecting Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 477 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, whoever, the guys Dak Prescott, the guys that 478 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: matter on the big teams that are printing the money. 479 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't think the rules should apply to 480 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: the backups, like the moment your backup quarterback starts the game. 481 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a little more liberal with how I 482 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: call some of these late hits because some of these 483 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: late hits are on the player. He just scrambling around 484 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: like a duck with his head cut off, and then 485 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: he gets molly wopped because he doesn't know where he's going, 486 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Like why does he deserve the benefit of the doubt. 487 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: One thing I saw Tom Brady talk about, and I 488 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: agree this notion with this word defenseless. We're on a 489 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: football field. If you play pee wee football, let alone 490 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: high school football all the way to the pros. Nobody 491 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: has ever defenseless on a football field. So when you're 492 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: going over the middle of the field, nobody is defenseless. 493 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: He knows other people are there. But a quarterback part 494 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: of It is like get rid of the ball, why 495 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: cause you can get hit. So I'm a big proponent 496 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: of backup quarterbacks not getting the same treatment as the 497 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: star quarterbacks. Protect the star quarterbacks piss people off on 498 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: social media with kind of weak calls all four it. 499 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: We need those guys. But Dorian Thompson Robinson getting the 500 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: same treatment, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant Lebron James get 501 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: a different level of treatment than Jordan Poole and whoever 502 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: else the scrubs are in the NBA. They're not all 503 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: treated the same. Why they're not equals In sports, equality 504 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Some guys more important, more valuable, just like 505 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: the private sector and in business. I would treat the 506 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks the same. So as long as you're rolling 507 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: out dtr and PJ. Walker, your defense is awesome. But 508 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: this isn't nineteen eighty seven. You're not going anywhere. I'm sorry, Indy, 509 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: maybe I'm gonna be late to the party. But and 510 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: Garner Minshew has made some play, and honestly, I just 511 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: looked at their schedule, their next couple of games, like 512 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: the Titans and someone else shitty. I mean, they're gonna 513 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: find a way probably to win some games. I mean, 514 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: to continue to win some games. Though they're also the 515 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: type team like are they guaranteed to beat the Titans? 516 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: With Minshew, it's pretty incredible what they've done. If they 517 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: were to make the playoffs this year with Gardner Minshew, 518 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: you could give this guy vote. Chane Sikin, you really 519 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: could as coached the year. But I'm gonna be shocked. 520 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Like to me, I like teams eight, nine and ten 521 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: more than any five, six or seven. Now the Steelers 522 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: just based on record, they're getting probably their minimum getting 523 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: to ten, and I think they'll probably get to eleven. 524 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: There's a huge game this weekend between Houston and Denver. 525 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: Whoever wins that game, especially if Denver to win it, 526 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: I think we'd start talking like could they be a 527 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: wild card team? And I'm sorry, like if Josh Allen's 528 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna play like that, you have to understand if Josh 529 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Allen played like that against I don't know, ninety five 530 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: percent of the NFL, like remove the Niners, the Eagles, 531 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: and maybe the Chiefs. If Mahomes was having an out 532 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: of body experience, they're winning that game. They're winning that game. 533 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: So everyone acting like the Bills just shit the bet 534 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: and losing that game is crippling to you know, where 535 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: they were because of their record, but it doesn't end them. 536 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: If that is the way they're gonna play, they're gonna 537 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: win games. So I still take Buffalo seriously, not seriously 538 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: as like some super Bowl contender, but I would not 539 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: just count them out because they lost that devastating game 540 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: to the Eagles. One thing I've been thinking about, it's 541 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: been in my head since watching some of that Houston 542 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: Jacksonville game, is do you know what's crazy is how 543 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: fast things change. That's why I like the stock market. 544 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: It's why I like talking players and coaches in football. 545 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Everything's fluid, you know. I mean you could have some 546 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: long bets, right, you know, player in a company, but 547 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: you better be ready to pivot. Like if you love 548 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, okay, totally get it. But if he still 549 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: looks like this in a year, like, you're gonna have 550 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: problems and you're eventually gonna have to look in the 551 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: mirror to admnute to yourself. Right, nobody liked brock Purty 552 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: coming out. We all have to admit he's pretty freaking good, right, 553 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a fact. So I think when 554 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: you look at CJ. Stroud relative to Trevor Lawrence, I 555 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: think for the next five years, I would take CJ. 556 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Stroud And if you factored in the money like part 557 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: of it is Trevor, is if I'm the Jags, like 558 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm not paying Trevor after this season, I would pay 559 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: him after his fourth year. But CJ. Stroud's would be 560 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: in here too. He's still got multiple years on his 561 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: rookie contract before I even have to pick up his 562 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: fifth year option. So right now, CJ's numbers compared to 563 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: him obviously a lot better. He is seven more touchdown 564 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: passes and two less interceptions. Now, Trevor's a little more accurate. 565 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: But you can't watch that game and listen. I'm not 566 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: trying to act like Lawrence has some scrub. I think 567 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people do that when a guy struggles, 568 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: like can we have a conversation, Like, yeah, we're having 569 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: a conversation. He's not as good as we thought he 570 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: was to be. What's a conversation. You want to act 571 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: like he fucking sucks. No, he doesn't stink. He's not 572 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: Derek Carror, Baker Mayfield or anything. Desmond Ritter, but he's 573 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: not playing as well as the hype he was compared 574 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: to Andrew Luck. And Andrew Luck immediately was dramatically better. 575 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: So I think we have to acknowledge this guy's not 576 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Just because you're not Andrew Luck doesn't mean 577 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: you're not a playoff level guy, which he is. But 578 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: relative to the way he was, you know, kind of anointed. 579 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: You know, CJ. Stroud for a guy that went second overall, 580 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: did not have the momentum of like, oh this guy 581 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: some camp miss gonna be some great player. And that's 582 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: what makes a draft fun, right because if every time 583 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: we just anointed a guy does a can't miss, you know, 584 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: drafting would be easy. But we know that's not the case. 585 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: So I would say, if you're the Houston Texans, you 586 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: got to be pretty excited. What one more quick thing, 587 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: That Ohio State Michigan game one was fantastic, But two, 588 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: how many teams that have you know, an elite coach, 589 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: a Kirby Smart, a Nick Saban, whoever Lincoln Riley. We 590 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: can argue how good Lincoln Riley is, but the Lincoln 591 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Riley before we viewed him this year could go on 592 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: a three game stretch and finish it off against you know, 593 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: not just your rival, but clearly one of the best 594 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: four or five six teams in the country, even at home, 595 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: and win the game. It's one thing if you're just 596 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: beating the shit out of him, but play a tight 597 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: game and find a way to win it. And I 598 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: think the answer is slim to none. I just do. 599 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: I do not think an assistant coach, even if the 600 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: other guy got to coach all week, would make that 601 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: big of an, you know, an impact on game day 602 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: of just when things got tight, could handle it. Michigan lost. 603 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: You know a guy that's going to go in the 604 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: top couple rounds their team captain, star guard. Now you 605 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: can say it's a guard, but still dude had his 606 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: leg shattered. I saw JJ McCarthy say when I look 607 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: down and I saw one of my teammates holding his 608 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: ankle in place, That's a sight I wouldn't wish upon anybody. 609 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: And I just saw Joel Klatt posted something that you know, 610 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: the vibe of that play and them channing his name. 611 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: He said it was just an emotional time in there. 612 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: Next play, Korum scores a touchdown. But one thing I 613 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: think that an underappreciated part of Jim Harbaugh is how 614 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: good he is at hiring assistance. I think Harbaugh's ability 615 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: to not only hire elite assistants, but capable young guys, 616 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: mentor them and put them in positions is like one 617 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: of his most underrated attributes, because when you think Jim Harbaugh, 618 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: you just think this physical team. His defense is always good, 619 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: his run game is always good. I don't think we 620 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: do enough a good enough job of talking about his assistance. 621 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: And Sharon Moore, the interim coach, is offensive coordinator, his 622 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: online coach. I mean, six seven years ago, the guy 623 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: just was hired as a tight end coach. And then this 624 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: guy's a couple of years. This guy's like thirty seven 625 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: years old. He played for Bob Stoops at Oklahoma. He's 626 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: just clearly a football guy. And they did not skip 627 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: a beat. And I heard Coward have his take was like, 628 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: anytime a business can lose the leader and not skip 629 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: a beat, that speaks to the leader is kind of 630 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: good at what he's doing, Jim Harbaugh the last three years. 631 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing I often have said that, you know, 632 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to this sign stealing stuff, I thought 633 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: it was a little overhyped and over just we made 634 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: a bigger deal of it than it was. Though it 635 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: was a juicy story, like what do you even say? Now, 636 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: obviously Ohio State would have changed their signs. Harbaugh wasn't 637 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: even there and they beat him in a big game 638 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: and a not a big, a tight game. So like, 639 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Day actually earned my respect more in that loss 640 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: than he has in any previous game I've ever watched 641 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: him play. Like that was an impressive loss. His team 642 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: was physical, his team didn't get just like shoved around. 643 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: They just weren't good enough. Now he kind of gets 644 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: tight in big moments and ultimately his quarterback. He has 645 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: a big downgrade from last year to this guy. But like, listen, 646 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm not one to act like Ryan Day some scrub, 647 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: though I hear a lot of people act like it's 648 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: insane that Ryan Day should be fired. Where yeah, no, 649 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: no one's acting like if he's fired, he's jimbo Fit 650 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: or Tom Allen at Indiana. But you're paid a premium 651 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: in Ohio State. You're talking nine ten million dollars. He 652 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: is the highest salary pool in the country, meaning his assistance. 653 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: He has five assistants in college that are paid over 654 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: a million dollars a year. It's one thing to lose 655 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: to Jim Harbaugh. It's another thing to lose to a 656 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: thirty seven year old O line coach. It just is 657 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So I understand there's a difference in a 658 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: message board acting like Ryan Day sucks ass. It just 659 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: needs to be run out of town. Yeah, that's stupid, 660 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: But to go is this guy good enough? Is this 661 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: guy good enough? I always hear like, well, how do 662 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: you up your Ohio state? You pay an unlimited amount 663 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: of money. You're not a and m who has to 664 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: pay just to kind of be relevant. You pay a 665 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: premium because you're also a premium. And like, if he 666 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: can't beat Michigan, that is a major problem. Now he's 667 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: obviously not going anywhere this year, you would think. But 668 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: if he were to lose to Michigan again next year, 669 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: even if he wins all these other games, I'm sorry, Like, 670 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel no sympathy if they fire. Here's the 671 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: other thing. The Big Ten is gonna get a lot 672 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: more difficult next year. So just playing Rutgers in Maryland 673 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: and Minnesota, like those games, those days are kind of over. 674 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: Oregon Washington, even USC and UCLA who are down, are 675 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: better than those programs. Now Wisconsin, Penn State, like it's 676 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be more difficult. And I've always supported 677 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: I think depth in your conference when making the argument 678 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: around bulls is a little overrated. The only importance of 679 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: your conference at the end of the year is how 680 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: good are your good teams? Now if we want to 681 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: value like how great the wins are, but like whether Alabama, 682 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: whether we're nitpicking in Alabama win, Alabama's really good, Georgia 683 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: is excellent, Ohio State and Michigan are awesome. Right, so 684 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: if Rutgers sucks, if Maryland sucks, if Iowa sucks, whatever, 685 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, those two teams are good. Like the PAC twelve, 686 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: like you know, might have even been in a weird way, 687 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: got overrated because everyone was nostalgic that they were leaving. 688 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: But like their two teams, Oregon and Washington are really good. 689 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: So I think that Harbaugh has just always put together 690 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: a really good staff And this weekend was on big 691 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: time display. And to me, that's the argument against Ryan Day. Yeah, 692 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: the dude, that guy's gonna be a head coach eventually, 693 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine, right, but you're not allowed to lose 694 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: to them. You're just not like Brian Kelly. He's getting 695 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: bailed out a little bit because he might have the 696 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, but I can't pay you ninety million dollars 697 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: and you lose the Lane Kiff in a Ole Miss. 698 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: You're allowed to lose to Georgia and Alabama. Ideally we'd 699 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: like to beat those guys every once in a while, 700 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: and he did last year. You're not allowed to lose 701 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: Old Miss. It's not acceptable. Like you can lose the 702 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: Florida State Week one, that's okay. Not allowed to lose 703 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: Old Miss. It cannot happen. And that's one thing that's 704 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Day's argument is like I'm losing to nobody except him, 705 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: But there gets to a point where, like you have 706 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: to beat him, you do and right now, that program 707 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: I have zero affiliation with that area of the country. 708 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: That game's fucking awesome. That game is badass. I mean 709 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: it really is. There's a level of like Auburn Alabama, 710 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: for example, I watched a lot of that game. Auburn 711 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: had just lost to New Mexico State. It's your classic 712 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: rivalry game where they're clearly not as good as Alabama, 713 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: but it's on the road. They're gonna play him tight, 714 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: and it's just cool to watch. Same thing with Washington 715 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: and Washington State. The talent discrepancy of the two teams 716 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: is wide, but it's kind of you know, David vers 717 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: Goliath that Michigan Ohio State als like Duke and North 718 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: Carolina and basketball. When they're both go, it's like Gliath 719 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: vers Goliath, And there's something kind of cool about Gliath 720 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: vers Goliath, right, And that's what makes that rivalry so 721 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: bad ass. It never really feels like the little engine 722 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: that could versus the big bad wolf. It's always like, 723 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: now these are two bohemus. It's like Amazon versus Google. 724 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: You just don't see that anywhere else, right, you don't. 725 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: In any of the rivalry games, they weren't even remotely close. 726 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: They were enormous spreads even though they were close, And 727 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: part of what makes it intriguing to watch, like when 728 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe has to make that pass to barely beat 729 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: Auburn and it's like, God, could Auburn pull off this 730 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: crazy upset? There is no upset in Michigan Ohio State. 731 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: It might as well just be a Pickham game. Just 732 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: a great product. Okay, before we get out here, it's 733 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: time for this week's player. I thought might give almost 734 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: almost anything to redo his game. Brought to you by 735 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: Uber Eats. A lot of respect for this guy. He's 736 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: a journeyman. He's been about it feels like twenty different 737 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. He started for. I think three 738 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: or four, definitely three teams over the last calendar year, 739 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: the Titans, the Cardinals, Minnesota. But you play Monday night 740 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: Football and you throw four interceptions and your coach after 741 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: the game was like, yeah, I was thinking about out 742 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: benching him for Nick Mullins. I think Joshua Dobbs the 743 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: hype train and he earned it. This wasn't just created hype, 744 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: it was substance behind it kind of ran out of gas. 745 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: So I think Joshua Dobbs would be one of those 746 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: guys Monday night football. You can argue it's an awful game. 747 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: Millions of people are watching you throw all those interceptions, 748 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: even if some of them are tipped off you know, 749 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: guy's hands or helmets. That's a tough tough box score 750 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: to see. And to lose a game when the other team, 751 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, can't score a touchdown. I think Joshua Dobbs 752 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: is an example of a guy that would like that 753 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: one back. So that's this week's almost almost Anything Player 754 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: of the Week, and you can order almost almost anything 755 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: with uber eatz, the official on demand partner of the NFL. 756 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: And let's answer some questions. You guys know how you 757 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: get on the mailbag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff 758 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: as the Instagram firing those dms and get your question 759 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Let's start with Arturo. What 760 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: up John? Longtime listener, first time messenger? I had one question. 761 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: I understand that we haven't fired Brandon Staley yet, but 762 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. My question to you is, if 763 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: we were to hire Harbaugh as our next head coach, 764 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, my team has been known to underachieve. What 765 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: are some things you believe he could bring to the 766 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: table to turn the franchise around? And do you believe 767 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: that if we did hire him, we could really make 768 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: a run of the championship. Well, I think this. When 769 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: Jim Harbosch shows up places, they immediately improve and then 770 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: they immediately win pretty big. Now, I understand he's never 771 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, and as of right now, he's 772 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: never won a national championship. But I think relative to 773 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of other coaches in college and pro, 774 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: he is better than everyone else. When's the last time 775 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: you guys had a good coach? Marty Schottenheimer, right, Brandon Staley, 776 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, Mike McCoy, Like, you guys are kind of 777 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: recycling different versions of average mediocre, And I think Harbaugh 778 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: would not just immediately give you credibility, but he'd immediately 779 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: take you to another level. Now does that mean win 780 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? I don't know, but you'd go to 781 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Because I watch him with the forty nine Ers. 782 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 1: The GM and him hated each other's guts. The Niners 783 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: were not gonna give him an extension. The team was 784 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: falling apart of the seams. Willis retired, Kaepernick wasn't playing well, 785 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: and then went eight and eight, Like, think about your 786 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: same thing that's going on with your team. You're gonna 787 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: win like six games. His team, in the ugliest of 788 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: times win eight and eight. So I'd be pretty bullish 789 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: if Jim Harball was my coach. If I were you 790 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: long time riding in love the Pod, I sort of 791 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: had an epiphany today thinking about the enormous Jim Bow 792 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: buyout and the Deshaun Watson contract. Colin likes to call 793 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: the Browns a low self esteem organization, and I think 794 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: it could probably make the same claim of A and M. 795 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: Similar to the Browns, the Aggie's are perennially underachieved and 796 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: have always been the little brother to Texas. I think 797 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: both organizations took a leap of faith on a bad contract. 798 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: I think there is a legitimate correlation between their low 799 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: self esteem and result in decision making. Well, the Browns 800 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: were very, very desperate, like that's not debatable. The only 801 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: way they could get to Sean to accept a trade 802 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: to their team was to give him the contract, and 803 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: their owner got involved. And I think in the NFL, 804 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: the moment the owner starts to get involved in player acquisition, trades, 805 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: draft picks, especially of that magnitude, usually disaster strikes. So 806 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: I think the situations are separate because listen, when they 807 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: hired Jimbo Fisher, I'd be lying if I said that 808 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be pretty good. He 809 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: won at Florida State, won a national championship, got him 810 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: back to the playoffs again, they ended up losing to Oregon, 811 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: But like, it's not not like his resume didn't speak 812 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: to success as a head coach. I think one problem 813 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: in college is when they got you by the balls, 814 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: and you know he had a little success at Texas 815 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: A and M. When Jimmy Sexton is your agent, he's 816 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: going to destroy your athletic director who is just a 817 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: crowd fundraiser and a president who's in the academia. So 818 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they're quite like. They just circle you 819 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: like sharks and they take advantage. Like for example, I 820 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: truly believe in my heart of hearts that Jimmy Sexton 821 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 1: leveraged Kentucky with the A and M thing to get 822 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: his client, Mark Stoops more money, which is his job. 823 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: It's his prerogative. There is no better business if you're 824 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: an agent then to represent college coaches. Because you're dealing 825 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: with ads and presidents. You have the advantage. Jimmy is 826 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: such a big advantage. So yeah, a little. I don't 827 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: even think it's low self esteem because Jimbo was a 828 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: good like that. That was a smart hire. It really was. 829 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: Look who Texas is hired, Tom Herman's, Charlie Strong's even Sark. 830 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call Sark exactly like Nick Saban or Kirby 831 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: smart when they hired him. So I think A and 832 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: M's more about they got they got taken advantage of 833 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: with the buyout. Now, is there a low self esteem 834 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: with the buyout portion? Maybe a little. Sometimes. Let's face it, 835 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: we just do bad business deals. I've done them, You've 836 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: done them. Now. There's a difference between a bad business 837 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: deal that might cost you one thousand dollars or if 838 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: you run a business that might cost you fifty grand. 839 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: That is not that big a deal. And there's another one. 840 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: If you run a business like this might bankrupt us 841 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: or this might force us to lay off five people. 842 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: And when you make a business decision like A and 843 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: M did, even if you have the funds to pay 844 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: it off, it has ripple effects. So I think it's 845 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: more the Haslim thing was period, point blank desperation. To me, 846 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: the A and M thing was just like, I think 847 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: you thought you had a guy that could I hope 848 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: you compete against Saban and Kirby, and it turned out 849 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: he couldn't. And I don't necessarily blame them for thinking that. 850 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: I will support that way, call me an idiot, but 851 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: I do. If you're the Bills, do you consider trading 852 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen for an incredible haul of picks and starting 853 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: over caphit jumps eighteen million to something like forty seven 854 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: next year, assuming the Russell Wilson deal is the absolute 855 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: floor for such a deal. Also, I live in Phoenix 856 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: right near the Raven played there many times. Nice DM 857 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: meeting you, Drew, I would say absolutely not, Absolutely not, 858 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: because what's the point of making a trade like that. 859 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: If you're the Bills, You're just then going to try 860 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: to acquire another Josh Allen. You have the hardest guy 861 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: to find. Josh Allen's cap hit to me kind of 862 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: irrelevant honestly, because he's worth every penny of the caphit. 863 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: Why we've talked about Deshaun Watson's cap hit going from 864 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: twenty million to sixty plus million, because he's not good 865 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: enough to be that high the version of Josh Allen, Like, 866 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: if he's a forty seven million dollar capit, I would 867 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: just restructure. I would guarantee some money and move it back. 868 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: I think that's what they end up doing. So my 869 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: first reaction and I wouldn't even need to sleep on 870 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: it that there is no offer you could give me 871 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: that I would trade Josh Allen zero. You could be 872 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: the Bears and be like, listen, we will trade you 873 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: the first pick, the seventh pick, and next year's one 874 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,919 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. I'd say, kick Rocks. I would rather 875 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: have Josh Allen than all those picks because the likelihood 876 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: that won Caleb or whoever turns into Josh Allen is slim. 877 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: The nun history would show us that are the Carolina Panthers, 878 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: the new Cleveland Browns. I think there is an element 879 00:46:53,480 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: of impatience, hiring the wrong guys, not knowing what to 880 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: look for. I think it's a combination of everything, and 881 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: then your team not being good enough. Cause it's like, 882 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: well it is Frank, Should you keep him? That's my thing? 883 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: Like what should Hugh Jackson? What Mike Petton? You hire 884 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: a bad coaches, what are you supposed to do? You 885 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: gotta fire him. But then once you fire him, once 886 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: you're in a position, I would say the Frank decision 887 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: is dramatically worse than anything he's ever done because he 888 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: was in position, he had just seen it and he overcorrected, 889 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: which is the nature of the world, right you date 890 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: someone who has a lot of good things going for 891 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: and is missing one quality that you like. The next 892 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: girl could have that one quality, but then missing all 893 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: the things that you liked about the other girl. So 894 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what he did with Frank. To 895 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: Matt Ruhle, what did Matt rule act NFL experience was 896 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: over at college coach right, and that was a major 897 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: mistake for Dave Tepper, and also, you know, not viewed 898 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: as a very dynamic offensive guy. So what does he do. 899 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: He hires a guy who's just the NFL Frank player 900 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 1: coach who can coach the quarterback, and in his mind 901 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: he over corrected. But it turns out Frank's not that 902 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,479 Speaker 1: good of a coach. Frank's not that good of a coach. 903 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: Whether you believe Michael Lombardi that the Wentz thing helped 904 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: him lose his fastball, I'd argue, I just don't think 905 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: he was ever that good. He was not getting job 906 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: interviews seven years ago before Josh McDaniels turned down the Colts. 907 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: He was not a candidate. When you can't hire the 908 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: right coach, your organization's gonna look like shit. I saw 909 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: with the Sacramento Kings forever. They's kept hiring bad coaches. 910 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: I don't care what franchise you're in, what industry, you 911 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: hire the wrong people, it's gonna look bad, even if 912 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: you got a good product, even if you got some 913 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: good players. Okay, it doesn't matter. I'm one hundred percent 914 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: convinced that McDermott has to go. There is no leadership 915 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: right now in close games. I don't trust anything we're doing. 916 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: This game hurt me as a fan more than I 917 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: can even explain. Can you convince me I'm wrong? Can 918 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: you shed any hope on Bill Bill's Nation, aren't you? Guys? 919 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia need some positivity right now. Kevin, here's what 920 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: I would say. I think Sean's good, and he's proven 921 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: to be. You guys have won a lot of games together, 922 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: right He helped resurrect your franchise with Josh. But those 923 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: last couple drives, obviously, the game drive in the overtime, 924 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: that when Jalen scored debacle right down the field to me, 925 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: the game, the ending drive in regulation when he just 926 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: goes he's the defensive coordinator, starts going prevent defense and 927 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: just giving up easy plays. It's like, what are you 928 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: doing just play normal. If you beat, you get beat, 929 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: you tip your fucking hat, but do not go to 930 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: prevent defense and just give them the right to eight 931 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: to ten yards of play. There's not twenty seconds left 932 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: right there. They got the ball back with a lot 933 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 1: of time, So I thought that was pretty piss poor. 934 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: And let's face it, the field goal would have been 935 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: a lot closer if one of the best players in 936 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: egal history didn't essentially jump off sides twice. So it 937 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: ain't pretty. It's not. But back to you know what 938 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, who are the candidates? To me, 939 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: Craft would not let Belichick go to the Bills. I 940 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: couldn't let him go to the Bills with Josh Allen. 941 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: But if I was the Bills, I'd be all over 942 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I'll promise you that. I just wanted to 943 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on the Colts and Shane Sichin and 944 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: the job he's done so far. Currently they're six and 945 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: five and at the season end of the day, they'd 946 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. He's out winning games with minschew 947 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: Mania at quarterback. If Demko's name is going to be 948 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: thrown around for coach of the Year, then we need 949 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: to throw Shane in there as well. Totally agree. They 950 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: win this weekend at Denver. They're seven and five with 951 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: their top draft pick basically missing the entire season and 952 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: playing with the backup. It's an incredible accomplishment. I'm betting 953 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: against it. I don't think it's sustainable, not because I 954 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: don't believe in their coordinator or you know, their head coaches. 955 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 1: The coordinator who's awesome, he's really good, but Jonathan Taylor's 956 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: now banged up. It just feels a little smoke and mirrors. 957 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: But sometimes you just keep writing off these teams like 958 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: this and you eventually get bit. No question for me here, John, 959 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: but have to be honest already. Can't wait for your 960 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: rant about NBC giving us the middle finger with subbing 961 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: in Jason Garrett in the shotgun seat next to Tariko Well. 962 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: I talked about it the other night. You can find it. 963 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: It's only YouTube only on the YouTube page I talked 964 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: reacted to the Sunday Night Football and Jason Garrett. Here's 965 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 1: what I don't quite understand. I'm all for, we all 966 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: need time. When you're an NFL broadcaster, right like Collinsworth 967 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: as an analyst, it's not a seven day a week, 968 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: three sixty five job. Right. It's like a teacher divided 969 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: by four. You work sixteen seventeen games a year and 970 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 1: you get the rest of the year to fucking dig around. 971 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: So he's making millions and listen, I totally understand being 972 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: with your family and stuff, but Chris, we need you, man. 973 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: You cannot having to have Jason Garrett as your backup. 974 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy to me. That's a crazy reflection on 975 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: NBC that he is the backup announcer for Chris Collinsworth. 976 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: This is the number one television show in America and 977 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: that's who They rolled out there. Very disappointed with their decision, 978 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: but that ain't changed anytime soon. Longtime fan, an aspiring podcaster, 979 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: My day job is super demanding. I want to pose 980 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: a line of thinking. I hear you and Colin talk 981 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: about Fields often, and I regrettably think it's time to 982 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,959 Speaker 1: move on from him, mainly to restart the rookie clock. 983 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: I know it's hard for people like you and Colin 984 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: to consume Bears football at a high level, but I 985 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: think you should watch the last five starts by Field 986 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: a bit closely. I think he's a product of another 987 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: failed Green Bay assistant. Last night's game plan and calls 988 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: ask him to throw behind. I'm in the line of 989 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: scrimmage roughly forty six percent of the time, which most 990 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: of which the defense and the audience knew were coming. 991 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 1: I think Chicago will trade him in the off season 992 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: and start over. But I hear everyone in wanting Caleb, 993 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: and I have big concerns and red flags for him. Maturity, 994 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: plays way too much hero ball, which you get away 995 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: with in college, holds the ball along like fields, and 996 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: has ball security issues. Despite all of this, everyone seems 997 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: to be ready to annoy him. I am not sold, 998 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: but I don't do this for a living. In your opinion, 999 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: means a lot. Well, here's my thing. Let's go back, 1000 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: and I'm with you. Caleb is no sure thing. None 1001 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks in this draft are a sure thing. 1002 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: So just because you get rid of fields doesn't mean 1003 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: you're getting Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. I'm in agreement there. Honestly, 1004 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,959 Speaker 1: Caleb makes me nervous, just like any college quarterback does, 1005 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: beside like Andrew Luck. So yeah, I mean it's it's risky. 1006 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: I do think when you look at justin fields, the 1007 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: reason they call a lot of screens. Is he can 1008 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: function at them? When they ask him to go backwards 1009 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: five steps seven step drops? What did you just say? 1010 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 1: Holds the ball too long? So when I asked him 1011 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: to make decisions, clearly it's a struggle for him and 1012 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: it does not go well. What were his best plays 1013 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: last night? I can't believe we're talking about this money 1014 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: in a football game. But you're a Bears fan, I 1015 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: hear you. Was when he was scrambling around right, He 1016 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: made countless plays scrambling to his left, throwing across his body, 1017 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, that's not a coat. That's 1018 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: just pulling a play out of his ass. He's a 1019 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: great freelancer. Football is not a freelance game in the pros. 1020 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: Football is you got to play within the confines of 1021 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: the offense, and the offense can't ask him early in 1022 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: the season, what do they do? They asked him to 1023 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: run a normal offense how to go? It was ugly. 1024 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: Everyone's shitting on gets see which he might suck. I 1025 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: think he's asking him to run plays that he knows 1026 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: that he can pull off. Right, of course, he can 1027 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: pull off like when nothing's there, scramble throw it across 1028 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: his body, make a sweet play to DJ Moore. But 1029 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,959 Speaker 1: if I just ask you to run a normal five 1030 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: step drop with you know, longer developing routes where you 1031 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: have to maybe look off your first option go to 1032 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: your second option, it's gonna take a little bit of time. 1033 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: He has proven that he can't really do that, and 1034 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: you're talking to a guy. I loved him coming out 1035 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: of college because I loved the size, the strength, the arm. 1036 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: But part of playing quarterback there is there's an unquantifiable 1037 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: feel to the position, instincts to the position. And when 1038 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: you watch him play, like I listen the fumbles as 1039 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: a runner, like if you're gonna run the ball like 1040 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: you might fumble like Lamar Jackson might fumble. I mean 1041 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: that's a little freakish to me because I actually like 1042 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: when he's running the ball because it's one of his 1043 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: better obviously his best attribute. But I think you guys 1044 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: get mad that he did. Their offense doesn't look like, 1045 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know the rams are the forty. 1046 00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: Nine ers, Like, I don't think they think they can 1047 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 2: run the offense, right, I mean, they don't think he 1048 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 2: could run the Aaron Rodgers offense when he was in 1049 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay, even as they meshed it with Lafleur in 1050 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 2: Rogers concept. 1051 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: They don't think he can do it now. Listen, doesn't 1052 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: mean coaches are always right. They could be wrong. They 1053 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: might just be wrong, and he has untapped potential. I've 1054 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: seen enough go. I don't know. I don't really see it. 1055 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: I see a guy who's just at this level. It 1056 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it's coming naturally too. And it's hard 1057 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 1: to play quarterback when you can't just drop back and throw, 1058 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: and that doesn't feel like he can. You have truly 1059 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: made it, my man. While it's ultimately a courtesy of 1060 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift effect to see your take not just 1061 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: on the pages of the Daily Mail Online but in 1062 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: the Showbiz section of The Mail Online, easily the UK's 1063 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: most visited news outlet, I'd imagine one of the most 1064 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: popular in the world. Is something let's ethn go and 1065 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: he sent me a link. Travis Kelcey looks old and 1066 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: is wobbling for the Chiefs, but it has nothing to 1067 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: do with Taylor Swift, says x NFL scout John Middlecoff. 1068 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: He's thirty four and has a lot of miles on 1069 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: his body. Yes, I was quoted in talking to Colin 1070 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: in the Daily Mail. So first got Travis Kelsey, big 1071 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: deal man, Holy moly. Okay, last question. I was listening 1072 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: to Andrew Brant's podcast the other day and he was 1073 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: talking about the cost of running NFL Europe when it folded. 1074 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: They were losing thirty two million dollars a year. They 1075 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: got me thinking, wouldn't the NFL and the NFL ownership 1076 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: be so much better off if NFL Europe still existed 1077 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: to help develop pro ready backup quarterbacks and better developed 1078 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: offensive linemen to protect these quarterbacks. Wouldn't the NFL owners 1079 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 1: lose less money if their coaches were better trained through 1080 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: practice coaching and development leagues so they didn't have to 1081 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: light guarantee contracts and fire guys on a yearly basis. 1082 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: I get the XFL in USFL exist, But to me, 1083 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: since the league is so interested in European markets and 1084 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: the league would do better with the presence of the 1085 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: Internet as a marketing tool, it seems like a no 1086 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 1: brainer to revive the project. These guys are not gonna 1087 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: lose of money, man, They're really not. And I hear 1088 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: you it's like it might benefit them big picture. But 1089 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: if I say, hey, first couple of years, you're gonna 1090 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: lose thirty forty to fifty million dollars, it's gonna be 1091 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: a no. It's just gonna be a no. And sometimes 1092 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: you got to see the forest before the trees. But 1093 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't see them doing it. I think in thirty 1094 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: two million dollars, what year was NFL Europa fifteen years ago? 1095 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: So what inflation costs? What are we talking now? I'm 1096 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: talking seventy five million dollars a year. I just I 1097 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: don't think they would do it. We will end on that. 1098 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: Audios the volume