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Speaker 1: Big bang what it is. You don't be on nothing,

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Speaker 1: I be on okay, So let me ask you bring

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Speaker 1: you big big facts right now.

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Speaker 2: Visit the new website today, big factspod dot com. A

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Speaker 2: for that big facts. We hear, Big Bank Baby j

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Speaker 2: d J screen Welcome in Nashville's home, the one, the only,

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Speaker 2: the legendary.

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Speaker 1: Starting lead on ski startling though.

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Speaker 2: Man, yo yo, your fans interesting, man, they've been threatening

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Speaker 2: us about this. Man, your fans don't play man. How

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Speaker 2: did you get this type of loyalty from your fan base?

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Speaker 3: I say, just stand down. You know, I think I

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Speaker 3: earned my fans one, one by one. That's the way

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Speaker 3: I feel about it. Yeah, after trunk hand in the hands,

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Speaker 3: even on the internet, you know, I take pride and

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Speaker 3: on what you see is what you get. And I

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Speaker 3: think people you know, honored that you give and give respect.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like my audience I look at them

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Speaker 3: a bond I had with the people that take to

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Speaker 3: my music and my brand.

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Speaker 2: So you feel like you give them as much as

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Speaker 2: they give you too, like you pour into them. You

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Speaker 2: give them music, all the time. You give them shows,

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Speaker 2: you get them lifestyle, you give them merse, you give

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Speaker 2: them game like you feel you pour into your fans

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Speaker 2: like they're pour into you too.

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Speaker 3: I try my best to you know. It's a lot

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Speaker 3: of my music is like almost like move music, I guess,

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Speaker 3: so sometimes you might not have it, you know, the

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Speaker 3: way they bring it to me. A lot of times

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Speaker 3: the people that that type of my music lift me

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Speaker 3: up and give me, give me together, and give me

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Speaker 3: a pocket. But I try to reciprocate, try to give

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of the a lot of

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Speaker 2: the world, at least Atlanta, like the streets probably first

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Speaker 2: heard you, even though you were doing music before that,

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Speaker 2: on that Great Goose record with GIZI and Got It.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on that mixtape. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did you like, did you envision at that time that

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Speaker 2: that was going to plan and seed to help you

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Speaker 3: Nah? Hell nah, you was just rapp It was it

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Speaker 3: was just making music. I was like nineteen all the time,

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Speaker 3: and uh that shit was like an inside joke from

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Speaker 3: around my way. I think Coach K. Coach K and

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Speaker 3: Jazzy Fad was in the club in Nashville and heard

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Speaker 3: something else they heard it brought it back this way.

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Speaker 3: I guess Jesus heard it the same time. Yo, gut.

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Speaker 3: It was reaching out from some of my other music

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Speaker 3: perfect storm. Like at that time we had similar followings,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, they all reached out in a

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Speaker 3: like yeah, you know, classic moment. But no, I didn't

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Speaker 3: the cash Money universal Alltown Dud. It was through y'all

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Speaker 3: guy in his company. But uh, but no, I ain't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't envision it. Being that it just happened, was

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Speaker 4: Then I would then I would be your passion music.

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Speaker 3: Now I was in the basketball before that, I was

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Speaker 3: probably high school times, but just reality, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: been around that many Black people are the same, you know,

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Speaker 3: at as a ticket for it. But it went from

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Speaker 3: a hobby to a passion to a hustle. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: You feel like you're the biggest from Nashville, Like that's

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Speaker 3: It ain't for me to say like, uh, good right,

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Speaker 3: bunch of reasons why I say that, Like one, just one,

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Speaker 3: I am, like, I'm you know, in the process of

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Speaker 3: me to say because if that's what I subscribe to

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Speaker 3: and that's what's important to me, I can lose myself.

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Speaker 3: And like, as far as metrics go, I ain't the

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Speaker 3: most accomplished. I mean, it's certain things I could problem

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Speaker 3: myself up on, But what do it really mean? You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I think Buck went like double

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Speaker 3: platinum or something like that. If I'm not mistaken of

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Speaker 3: Gun the group four three or four times platinum. You know,

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Speaker 3: Jelly Rolls a rapper my partland one of the big arguments,

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Speaker 3: one of the biggest superstars in the world right now

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Speaker 3: in another line of music. You know, he come from

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Speaker 3: hip hopably come from a rap lane, and so like,

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Speaker 3: I don't just see the value in comparing it. Like

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Speaker 3: one of the things I'm probably proud of is staying power,

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Speaker 3: you know, sustainability. Y'all was just talking about me getting

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Speaker 3: a deal in two thousand and five, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm still here, still later. Yeah, there's still people that

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Speaker 3: want to hear me and see me. So it ain't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's about being the biggest. I think

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Speaker 3: it's about like what what kind of value you can retain, longevity,

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Speaker 3: how you go to the farther It is the file.

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Speaker 2: But but but one day I gotta salute you on

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Speaker 2: and that's how cool. I receive that energy. But you

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Speaker 2: doing this shit and dependent the real independently for sure,

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Speaker 2: Like when you say grind hard, like I hear about it.

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Speaker 1: Like y'all go.

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Speaker 2: Shout shots, a dun trip to y'all go to a city,

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Speaker 1: Ain't no radio, ain't no none of that. It's just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, ain't. I ain't took a record

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Speaker 3: however you get to, you know, respect your don john

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Speaker 3: my bood. But like being signed, I had people like

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Speaker 3: to hit yeah, you know, six words or list in

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Speaker 3: your chorse this and then I'm like, as an artist,

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Speaker 3: that kind of watered down my craft. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: to make another great goose, trying to create a moment.

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Speaker 4: When losing your people too at the same time losing myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yourself, because I might just got something to say

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Speaker 3: that somebody gonna feel fat. And as you see music change,

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Speaker 3: well a lot of hits don't even got courses no more.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned don Tripp he got in the game with

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Speaker 3: the letter to my Son record didn't have a course,

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Speaker 3: just pain ocean passion, you know what I'm saying. Going

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Speaker 3: But it's like I started to see that then were

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Speaker 3: like that. I'm gonna try that for myself. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: So do you.

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Speaker 2: But have you ever desired like plaques and Grammys and like,

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Speaker 2: have you ever desired that?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had that moment.

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Speaker 2: Where you're like, man, maybe damn, maybe it would be

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Speaker 2: nice to have a Grammy plaque or some of that

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Speaker 3: Man, that's funny. I got two plaques last week. It's

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Speaker 3: from some stuff from yesteryear. But I just never physically

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Speaker 3: had the plaque, just being independent, just you know, certain

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Speaker 3: bit more. But I got a plaque from like Father,

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Speaker 3: Like Son album, and I got a plaque from a

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Speaker 3: Little Baby album Harder than ever. And it's a lot

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Speaker 3: of other artists that I work with, and this is

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Speaker 3: just my truth. A lot of times I lived through

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Speaker 3: their successes in terms of the trophies of it, because

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Speaker 3: happy to see other people come up. It's like, as

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Speaker 3: long as I'm still in it, Like my trophy is

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Speaker 3: the testimony of people that are reached because a lot

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Speaker 3: but awards itself, it's politics and all it and not

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Speaker 3: to mention like I don't. I took myself out of

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Speaker 3: the mainstream, right you did, so, like I ain't. I

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Speaker 3: definitely ain't in it for that.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's cool, you know, even now I'm doing some writing,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing some other things behind the scenes, and some

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Speaker 3: of that might end up, you know, with the level

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Speaker 3: of achievement, and that's cool too, But I just ain't

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Speaker 3: just truthfully, I think it's cool for whoever it does

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Speaker 5: You think you're gonna continue to do like be in

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Speaker 5: the music business like throughout the rest of your life,

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Speaker 3: If I can get some of these other moves working,

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Speaker 3: for sure, because that's that's what I'm like. I'm from Nashville.

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Speaker 3: We got it's like an epicenter like music business, but

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Speaker 3: like yeah, development and exactly, like, because that's that's part

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Speaker 3: of it. I feel like I got the market in mind.

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Speaker 3: I just don't really so much have a desire to

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Speaker 3: I can find something that this could work, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: could do that, Like I could do that to something

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Speaker 6: So my thing is with you, like when it comes

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Speaker 6: when it comes to Nashville, when it comes to music,

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Speaker 6: and when you put those two together, you are worldly

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Speaker 3: better way to go about this.

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00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 4: Else what you were doing, Like what your upbring was

432
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: like just straight up.

433
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean I was it was. It was me and

434
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: my mama for the most part, single paying home. I'm

435
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: you know from I ain't gonna say the absolute worst

436
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: of it, but I'm you know from from around the way.

437
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 3: And uh man, I grew up smart, I tested gifted,

438
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: I skipped first grade. I came up in a in

439
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 3: a rough area. But I thank my mom for like

440
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: putting me in better schools and whatever like it gave

441
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: me some some options. But I also came up seeing

442
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: everything that it was to see. So by the time

443
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: I was coming to age and could figure it out

444
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 3: for myself, Like I said, when it wasn't sports. It

445
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: was a lot of other stuff, you know what I'm saying, environmental,

446
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: The neighborhood was right there, you know what I'm saying.

447
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: It was well, I'm gonna try to get me some

448
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: money kind of thing. And uh, I say. I just

449
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: had a diverse upbringing.

450
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: How you get into the music.

451
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: Just trial and error. Just I actually wanted to make beats,

452
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: and there was some niggas around my way, some people

453
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: I went to school with that was like more inter rapping.

454
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to try to make beats for him, but

455
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: I would always write something to air beat I made

456
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: and my beast was sorry as hell. That was really

457
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: really the end of it. Like I hear other people

458
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: beasts and just like, yeah, that shit better than mine.

459
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 3: But every time I write something, they'll be like, man,

460
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 3: get on the song with us, like your verse home

461
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: what kind of thing. So that evolved and I left

462
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: the beat making a loan and kind of got it,

463
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, fell in love with the writing. The wraps

464
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: put you know, actually recording recording myself. That was probably

465
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: around fifteen sixteen, But that was, like I said, it

466
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: was a hobby. It was just something to do. By

467
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: like eighteen, I was trying to put the put the

468
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: music out and get heard. And the first thing we

469
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: put out just from the neighborhood, between the neighborhood and

470
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: the campus, you know, which was cross town from each other,

471
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: it just kind of caught fire. Like I put out

472
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: some music nine months later, I damn that had a deal.

473
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 5: Oh so yeah, when you when you when you stop

474
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: when you start rapping, and ship got seen about the

475
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 5: music that you quitched everything else Cold Turkey just focused

476
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: on music or what you one one foot.

477
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: It was a man I was. I was in the

478
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: I was in the thick of it, you know. My

479
00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: peers and my support system was that. Yeah, it was

480
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: that so so I was. I was in it, you

481
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like, but but I was the rapper, Yeah,

482
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's one of them

483
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: things like you in it, whether you choose to be

484
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: in the lie you know, all the way up to

485
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: probably I got accomplished enough to be able to separate

486
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: myself from it. But early on it was like like

487
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: I said, when I dropped that first type and we

488
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: was and we could get five and ten dollars a CD,

489
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: and I'm going home with money in my pocket off

490
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: the CDs. Right. It was an instant decision, like I

491
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: rode a hustle this, yeah, but you know everything else

492
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: is the same environment. It's it's like because it's gonna

493
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 3: slow up and you know, but I had a partner

494
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: that told me I can remember losing all my money

495
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: shooting dice and uh and I'm like from something, you

496
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, just put me back in the

497
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: game kind of thing, and he shot off on him,

498
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 3: was like, man, you need to get some more CDs.

499
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: It's like fuck that you need to get some cee

500
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: these And I'm like, and I was because you know,

501
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get back instantly. But it was like

502
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: the advice or the gravity of advice was so real

503
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: because it's like I took so much more than what

504
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: he actually said. It's almost like if I if I

505
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: give you this and you go get jammed up, and

506
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be on my conscious knowing that you got something,

507
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, better than this, or you

508
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: got something to come like almost like risk free, so

509
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: to say, like to see that the music is a

510
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: sweet lick if you if you work hard enough at it.

511
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: And I took from that. I won't say it was

512
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: like a cold Tarket thing at that time because it

513
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: was one for then one for that, even even with

514
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: being signed and all that, because it's like, man, that

515
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: shit comes slow. They'll release a budget or they release

516
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: half your budget on the front end, and you sitting

517
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: until they sign off on it, and it's like yeah,

518
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: so it's like that kind of dry up or I

519
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: ain't just gonna sit around y'all and wait on. You

520
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, direction like I'm gonna go for

521
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: what I know. I gotta go back home. I got

522
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: to make something happen. But it was, like I said,

523
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: them conversations are like, man, this is what you're supposed

524
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: to be doing. Kept me, you know what I'm saying.

525
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: The geared with that, And.

526
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: What's the first city that picked up on you heavy,

527
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: like outside of your city?

528
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: Memphis? Memphis, Tennessee. It's like two and a half hours

529
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: from Nashville. And like I said, the first person to

530
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: reach out was yo, got it. This is while I

531
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: was still in college. But a lot of people from

532
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: TSU are from Memphis. There's a lot of people, you

533
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's almost like half and half,

534
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people from Memphis then

535
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: went to school with me, was going back home with

536
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: the music. And by the time I started working with

537
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: got it in, like, oh, foh it just a lot

538
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: of people think I'm from Memphis. You know, I've seen

539
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: people I seen Memphis artists make the top five lists

540
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: and have me in it, which is crazy to me,

541
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: Like I ain't even from there, but a lot of

542
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: people from other places, like I've been on the West Coast,

543
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 3: like you from Memphis, and I'm like, that's just how

544
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: much they embraced me. Now, you know, when I was

545
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: working music and radio, I had songs going number one

546
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: back to back on both stations like from you know,

547
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: street level radio. Everything, Like they always took to my

548
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: music and always treated me like like them. So yeah,

549
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: Memphis was definitely the first, and still to this day,

550
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: it's just like second home type of time.

551
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: Anybody that follow you know, like your daughter is your world, man,

552
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: tell us about how having the kid change you, and

553
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: also talk a little bit about her, You being comfortable

554
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: having like her in the studio with you, because we

555
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: see them pictures too where you like have her in

556
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: the studio with you, like while you're cooking up and

557
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: all that.

558
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: That part just happened recently as far as involving in

559
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: the music making process. My daughter's five should be six

560
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: in like a month, change everything from the same thing

561
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: I was saying, the timeline of going through some stuff,

562
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: catching a catching a fresh case. And then I had

563
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: a child maybe six months later or the following year.

564
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: It changed my own mind front, Like I already was

565
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: kind of like detaching from the whole like rap game,

566
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: rap persona thing, but it just made things white reller,

567
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: like I ain't just living for me. I mean, it

568
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: was like a different purpose, a different approach to what

569
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: I'm doing. And on the same way y'all, like you

570
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: got training or whatever, I'm just mold conscious or like

571
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: what I put out the energy wise, the things I

572
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: say and otherwise. Because I got a little person that's

573
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: list hanging on her word and she know how to

574
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: work our passed. She'll end up finding this terview for

575
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: what is worth Like at the top of the year,

576
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: you know, she was I was on like local TV

577
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: on like a new station, but it was an interview

578
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: platform and she was watching it.

579
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: She was like, why she keep.

580
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Calling you that I'm like, I ain't thinking none of it.

581
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 3: She's like, why she calling you Lido? And I had

582
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: to kind of explain it to it. Then I'm like,

583
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: it's my stage name, this and that, and you know,

584
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: then she go up granted, like, you know, the name

585
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: of my daddy's stage is start Leado. You know, I'm

586
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: tripping off of it. But since then she just a

587
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: little by little understands it a little bit better. I'm like,

588
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: because I ain't gonna really had nothing from her. I

589
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: told myself, I'm always keep it yeah, keep it real,

590
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: be as honest.

591
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: As I can.

592
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: But I know it's things I said and done that's

593
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: gonna be difficult to explain. So the best I can

594
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: do moving forward is is make sure i'm you know,

595
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: everything is like it's best I can on up and

596
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: up to the point where I feel comfortable bringing into

597
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: my work environment, you know, because it's different than it

598
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: used to be looking you know, it's a different vibration

599
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: and everything. And then she got her own dreams and whatnot.

600
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: So she's she's featured on my last album. She's actually

601
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: singing on there. You know, I got like set up

602
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: in the crib. She wants to record more than I

603
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: do half the time at the house. But yeah, just

604
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: it just changes me completely. Man.

605
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: So i'mnna throw this out there because I want to

606
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: hear what he goes.

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 2: This is gonna be good. It's your daughter birthday, covering up.

608
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: You're supposed to take your daughter whatever.

609
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Right, But they call they.

610
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: Got triple the bad what you usually get for a show.

611
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: What's star lad though doing.

612
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna keep it real. We uh, we're gonna

613
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna do it triples big when we resevered what

614
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: we got going on, Like that's just the right. Yeah,

615
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: I mean that's.

616
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: That's that's the nature of how you that's the nature

617
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: of what it is.

618
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, other way, I ain't. I like to say I

619
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: wouldn't cancel something. It's best I could. But you know,

620
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: as far like even on the family and like as

621
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: a as a provider, as a bread winner, like I

622
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: can't see, uh, unless it's something we just absolutely can't

623
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: work around. Like I can't see whoever. I can't see

624
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: a mama not going to work handle a business like

625
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: we have to move things around, like you know, we

626
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: scheduled this today. I told you I left a soccer

627
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: game and came here. You know what I'm saying straight

628
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: from the soccer field. But it's like I gotta go

629
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: to work and you know what I'm saying, my support

630
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: system gotta understand and Brycete if anything, it's like, well

631
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: let's pile up, y'all go to the city with me

632
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: with the show. Is that.

633
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: When I get one, you're gonna find.

634
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, turn it into that, like what you saying, triple,

635
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it is what it is short

636
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: of a you know, uh, I mean it's this gain

637
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: don't wait for nobody. It's hard to like you take

638
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: things for granted and think it's on your terms and

639
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: your time. It'll leave you behind, like regretfully, like had

640
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: to miss a funeral before because it was you know

641
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, We got contracts and otherwise, and it

642
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: was like I had to make peace with my attachments

643
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: to this person. Wouldn't you know what I'm saying. It

644
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: wasn't defined by whether I was at this funeral service

645
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: or not. And you know, and even the other family

646
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: members was they understood it or whatever. It's like, you know,

647
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: we got a business gotta get tended to, not to

648
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: say it comes before any or everything. But it's just

649
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: gonna make it make sense on the other end, because

650
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: if I ain't earning my key, then you know, I

651
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: can't really but halfway through my job as a father.

652
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: That's real. But for sure, it's not that this music

653
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: thing or whatever take precedence. It's just like I said,

654
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: it's my hustle to it. Yeah it is. I gotta

655
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: I gotta earn my key.

656
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: Trip you fully comfortable though? What if she wanted to

657
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: jump in all the way or like rap and be

658
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: in this industry? You're fully comfortable with that it nah?

659
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: But nah, But I will say I'm behind or support

660
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: of whatever it is you want to do.

661
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: So why you're not comfortable?

662
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: Oh, because I'm not as much a fan of the

663
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: culture of it or the you know, like Bank asked me,

664
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 3: like I might be in the business of it for

665
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: as long as I can. But comfortable, I say, nah,

666
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: because it's not necessarily what I want for her, you

667
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Because it wasn't easy. It's not

668
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: a you know, people can see they see the highs

669
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: and kind of miss the loss other times or what

670
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: it might have took to get there. But I ain't

671
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: gonna like discourage her from it or try to keep

672
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: her from doing it. That's what she want to do.

673
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: I just basically saying, you don't want to see her

674
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: to go through the stress of this shit, right and yeah, right, No,

675
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 5: in the manipulation of trying to make you something that

676
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: you're not, Like you said earlier, you get signed to life,

677
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: she go to a major. Now it's certain things they

678
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 5: want you to do outside of what you wanted to do,

679
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 5: like make are three word whatever you just say earlier,

680
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: you remember.

681
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly what Yeah, just overall, I just like part

682
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: of it for me is like, like I said, I've

683
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: been at this professionalist since our eighteen like a little

684
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: bit over twenty years, and it's consumed so much of

685
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: my my life. You know what I'm saying, This became

686
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: my life, like I wanted to live free and have

687
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: my own experience. Is part of what I'm saying. Like,

688
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: because whatever she's doing, I want her to be the

689
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 3: best at it or whatever. So if it's like most recently,

690
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: just she says she want to be a movie star,

691
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: And I mean, I don't know as much about that game,

692
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 3: but if that's what she want to do, then it's

693
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: acting classes, it's theater camp or whatever. Like I'm gonna

694
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: support it. I'm gonna embrace it, nurture and all that.

695
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: But it's like, do you want your kid to be

696
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 3: a child star because a lot of a lot of

697
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: the child stars ended up with with weird, weird stories

698
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: to come with it or you hear you know, Hollywood.

699
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 7: And like, so the best I can do is I

700
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 7: think you had to pack it up though, like you

701
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 7: have to pack up your everything you're doing. Yeah, to

702
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 7: pursue that, for sure, that's the only way I would

703
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 7: do it like that, Like my daughter, she would dish

704
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 7: the business.

705
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: Noney, Yeah, I can't let you go out there with.

706
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: No right.

707
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Her parents type shy.

708
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 4: At least you get a you know, get your husband

709
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: some something.

710
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. But but I mean, so that's just

711
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: my truth for like, I don't I don't necessarily like

712
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: I want that, for want of the choose this, But

713
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: I ain't finna like like right now, she the sports,

714
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: She into, I want her to play basketball because I

715
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: like basketball. But I asked her, like you want to

716
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: play basketball? She said no, that we ain't playing basketball.

717
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She want to play soccer,

718
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: we're playing soccer. Whatever it is, I'm I'm with it,

719
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: you know. I think I said on the song or whatever,

720
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: you're with on with on the on the song that

721
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: she featured, I'm talking to her pretty much on the song.

722
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: That's the cycle though, because you you probably didn't end

723
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: up doing what your people wanted you to do.

724
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: Not necessary, right, So yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, my dream

725
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: probably wasn't legitimate to everybody that that loved me or

726
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 3: bought me up or whatever. But you know they ain't.

727
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: They ain't ship on it necessarily either or discourage It

728
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: was just kind of like but yeah, I remember that

729
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: it being like rapping like until it's like, damn, are

730
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 3: you rapping for real? Like when I got a deal

731
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: or whatever. It was so but like you said, I

732
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: just gotta be hands on with it. I can't just

733
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: let let it wrong.

734
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 5: While Hey, when was that moment for you? I always

735
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: ask people that like that moment when you just start

736
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 5: like feeling like yeah.

737
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: Oh, one of them, I'm gonna pinpoint a couple of difference.

738
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: One of them was, oh fo, I was at the

739
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: Essence Festival, me and me and my partner drove straight

740
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: from I think it was in Clarsville, Tennessee. This is

741
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: about an hour the opposite way. It was at a

742
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: you know, small club, hood club kind of thing. We

743
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: left out of the club drove the New Orleans and

744
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: to link over God in them. They make the introduction

745
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: with you know baby and Slim Little One, et cetera.

746
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: We go down to Essence and and I get there

747
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: and it's like they kind of like know who I am,

748
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: know the music, and you know, it's clear like they

749
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I'm in at this time, like in

750
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: a room I never saw my you know what I'm saying.

751
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: That's how we listened to, Like I'm like, damn, they

752
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: really want me to be you know a part of this.

753
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: I was kind of like a deer in head license.

754
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: I was so young and just impressed by it. But

755
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 3: it was a moment of I'm like, damn, I ain't

756
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: think I ain't think i'd be here or I'm hearing

757
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm somebody so to say that was That was a moment,

758
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 3: but it wasn't really like a defining moment.

759
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: What do you do for your company to do that moment?

760
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: Oh man?

761
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 6: It was.

762
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: It was unreal. I don't even know if it did

763
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: as much for my confidence. It was just like it

764
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: was like a pinch yourself kind of thing, like, damn,

765
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: am I really here like this? You know, from seeing

766
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: somebody on TV or listen to somebody at that time

767
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: with five six years and you there and you're supposed

768
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: to be there kind of thing. I don't know if

769
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: it did as much for my confidence. It's just it

770
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: was just unbelievable. But it was a moment that it

771
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: was like, damn this, this shit really happened. Is I've

772
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: already at taken it farther than I could have seen

773
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: or imagined past that I made the Billboard charts were

774
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: talking about plaques and otherwise, and it wasn't like I

775
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: don't remember what I was fifty sixty something, but it

776
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: was the top two hundred album charts. In twenty thirteen,

777
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: when I dropped the album called Cold Turkey. It's funny

778
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: that you asked me call Turkey thing. I dropped the

779
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: album call Call Tark and it charted on Billboard and

780
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: it was I was ready to put the music out

781
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: for free, like on live mixtapes and all that, and

782
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: my partner had linked me with Empire, and I just

783
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: serviced it like an album, just trying some shit, and

784
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: at that time, I was like, even though I've been

785
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: in the game down in ten years, at the time,

786
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: it was at that moment I'm like, damn, I'm again,

787
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: I'm bigger than this. These are metrics, like I'm bigger

788
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: than then. I saw myself with that, then I imagined,

789
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: and obviously with that, it was also return on it.

790
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: It was like from working in somebody else's system and

791
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: trying to just fight to get you know what I'm saying,

792
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: get back budget money or whatever and cut corners to

793
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: like I did this myself and people taking to it.

794
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: I'm like looking at reading them. I get an email

795
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: from real board and I'm like, ain't nobody do this

796
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: shit with me? You know? At that point it was

797
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: like okay, yeah, I'm I'm here.

798
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: Seeing that direct direct check.

799
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that was okay, yeah, that was probably

800
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: the next quest. Yeah, and then I dropped the next

801
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: like four or five projects. I dropped out here, Bill,

802
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: because when I got that first check, I went right

803
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: back to the studio. I'm from drop a note, one check,

804
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: got email, you know, and I dropped Fried Turkey four

805
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: months later. He Bill board drop step Brothers too, and

806
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: it was like top top fifty something went on the

807
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: tool with Kevin Gates and it was that moment when

808
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: College Turkey, it was like, oh yeah, I don't like,

809
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: I don't need nobody like I took meetings with labels

810
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: after that, and I'm like, y'all really can't move me

811
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: because the thing I'm doing, the things I would be

812
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: going to y'all to try to make that and so like,

813
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: to me, that's that certified me as like an independent.

814
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: Like everybody can use help. I don't want to say

815
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: it wrong, like I don't everyone needs help, but I

816
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: don't require it in the sense of like y'all help.

817
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily need that kind of help. I don't

818
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: need y'all money because I know I can make money

819
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 3: out of this now. It's just by recycling my money

820
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: or refining it, doing it better, building my team up.

821
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Let me instead of using you'll people, I'm gonna hire

822
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: some of my people to do some of the same things.

823
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find some people that's passionate and to go

824
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: harder for me. Then then I'll be number ten in line.

825
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: If I sign up over there, I'm number one. Over here,

826
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was. It was that moment with called Turkey,

827
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: and that just that pushed me forward probably the next

828
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: five years.

829
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: If you're talking to an artist like right now, like

830
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: tell them what it really is to be an independent artist,

831
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: Like what is really gonna take? Because I think some

832
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: people don't. They like the screaming, but they don't really

833
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: know what it's gonna take and what it really is.

834
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: Man, the game changes so often and so fast now,

835
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: I think what it really takes is being adaptive, being

836
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: a quick learner, and and being willing to learn. Like

837
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: independent is a word people throw around like that could

838
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: just be a fancy Wells saying I ain't got to

839
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: deal yet, unsigned and but truly being dependent means you

840
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: gotta be soaking it up as you go and figuring

841
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: out how to apply it in real time. Like because

842
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: like I said, I don't think it's a cookie cut

843
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 3: or blueprint or success. I don't think it's one way

844
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: to do things. But you got to figure out what

845
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: works for you in mash and really do that. Like

846
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 3: independent and large part I mean spending your own money

847
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: so a lot of times that's the hard part.

848
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: And not being scared to spend it.

849
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: That part that's that's a big part of it. But

850
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: I think I think learning and growing with this because

851
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: we got all the tools. Like man I met I

852
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: met this cat that's in college now that was sharing

853
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: his music with me, and I was like, where you

854
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: you know here just moving were recording that. It was like, man,

855
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: I did all this on my phone and I played

856
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: it in the car, like sound like my music, like

857
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: quality wise, like sonically, and I'm like, man, I ain't

858
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: no excuses, you know what I'm saying. We have to

859
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: pay so much to get our music to sound like that.

860
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, he got an iPhone and so it ain't

861
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: no excuses, you know what I'm saying. We got We

862
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: got the resource to get your camera, get your engineer

863
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 3: or whatever, you know. Interface all these tools. They ain't

864
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: necessarily cheap, but they're cheaper than they ever being. It's

865
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: they more accessible because you can rent shit, you know

866
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So part of it is the game

867
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: I would give somebody as an independent is man, you

868
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 3: gotta try, you gotta push, Like I know so many

869
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: people with talent, they think that's enough. It's to push

870
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: more than the talent, you know, what I'm saying, that's

871
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: that's anything else. It's hoopers that is cold as NBA players,

872
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: but they ain't cultable, you know what I'm saying. Or

873
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: they don't do the they don't do the leg they

874
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: don't do the conditioning work. It's somebody going harder then you.

875
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: You might be better than them, but they going harder.

876
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: And so it's that's like I said, learn as you go,

877
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: and don't be afraid to try ship and use all

878
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: these resources that you got, Like I said, the earning

879
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: fans one for one, it's like, all right, I ain't

880
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: going to the radio because that costs five figures every

881
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: time that we go to try to do that. But

882
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: I got these platforms and these mediums where I can

883
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: interact with people. Somebody feel like they're a part of

884
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: what you got going on, they more likely to go

885
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: share with somebody else. And that's how you grow audience,

886
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: just as well as being on the station, you know,

887
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: one time or ten times a day or however that

888
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: might go.

889
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you take pride to and being independent

890
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: and actually owning all your shit, and so what you

891
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: think about the artists that go sell all of it?

892
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: Would you would you sell all the rights to you.

893
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: Would you sell it off for the right ticket? That's

894
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: the key phrase, for the right ticket. The same way

895
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: was like like would you take you know, triple for this?

896
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's just that's just being rational. Yeah, that's

897
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: just being rational because you can have attachment to something,

898
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: but it's like what is it worth?

899
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: What is it worth to you? As I say, everybody

900
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: got a price, It ain't even that. It's just like

901
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: what you're doing is for you to sell it though, yeah,

902
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: on some level, so you're.

903
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: Selling it at that man, man, I wish you mother

904
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: will come to buy my cat.

905
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: But but I think it's about knowing big. It's like

906
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: knowing what you want to get out of because the

907
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: only place I really disagree with that is selling yourself

908
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: short or selling it off too soon, because it's like,

909
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: like you said, if you build up the value in it,

910
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: it's like anything else, you're building a value in it

911
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: to wait till it don't got no value no more,

912
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: or you know, you want to sell it at the

913
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: highest point kind of thing or license or seller part

914
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: of it. I think it's about making it makes sense.

915
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: But iin't. I don't feel like i'm finishing it.

916
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 5: So if I said that they finna give me the

917
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 5: money to boot me up, I'm going to make my

918
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: best ship.

919
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: Now right right right, you know what I'm saying. That's

920
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: what I see some people in the headlines and people

921
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: like why he's selling. I'm like ship because he's still

922
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 3: on fire.

923
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 4: Like again, I'm.

924
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: Gonna take this second. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

925
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: make a greater value, gonna really turn it, or I'm

926
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: gonna find ten more of me to go invest in,

927
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: you know what, build some more catalogs up that I

928
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: got ownership stake in or whatever. So yeah, I think,

929
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: like you said, the right ticket, if it makes sense.

930
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: I do think people sell themselves short, going in on

931
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 3: the front end and selling it off before they even

932
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: make it.

933
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: That's not like a publishing deal.

934
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: Not even that, because that can make sense. I'm just

935
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: saying people to go sign up, like you know, you

936
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: signing your rights away on the front end. You know

937
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: they give you a big checks. Like man, that these

938
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: people give you a million dollars, it's probably because they

939
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: see it as being worth ten or twenty in this life.

940
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: So you might all have stayed down and put the

941
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: work in and go earn your teen rather than taking

942
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: the one. And then that's that's all you ever saw

943
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: was doing that. That's what you know, the one conflict.

944
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: And that's why I was at when I was building

945
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: a value up. I'm taking meetings like what you want

946
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: to do, like nothing, keep grinding because you know what

947
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because trying to cast me out right now,

948
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: I do the math.

949
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 5: It's just all I'm doing is got damn waiting a

950
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: little longer to get more. Yeah, but taking this now,

951
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 5: if I take this now, it's cool because because I

952
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 5: feel like I need it now.

953
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: But I'm already worth this.

954
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you're working, if you if you're actually

955
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: working your move, then you're gonna make more.

956
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 6: It's just like taking a fucking the first settlement offering

957
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 6: a car accident. Like they offer you some ship just

958
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 6: to get you out of the way, and if you

959
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 6: need the money bad enough, you'll take it when really

960
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 6: like you deserve more because.

961
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: You fucked up in the bag, be taking that ship.

962
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: It ain't really be down, really be hurt.

963
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: This is.

964
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: What they take it off the table.

965
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 4: But they got to investigate this ship.

966
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: But look, but look, this rap ship could be like

967
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: that too.

968
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: Some people doing this as a link. If you're doing

969
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: it as a link, the cash out get low and

970
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: go like. But I'm saying that at the point I knew,

971
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: like I got value in this, I got staying powered,

972
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: I got the formula for me at this point, like,

973
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: I don't want you all money to build me up

974
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 3: because I don't. I got equity in it. I'm building

975
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: up to this point already. I'm gonna just keep building

976
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: and turn it into something else, and y'all might and

977
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 3: double back in a few years and put another zero

978
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: in that or something and we can wrap. But you know,

979
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: it's it's different if it's like you know, it was

980
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: probably times in my career was like shit, I don't know.

981
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: If I don't, I don't be around next year to

982
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: make more music. So what you got? You know what

983
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That might have been your mindset about it.

984
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: But you know, at the point when I'm like my

985
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: feet planning in this and I'm at it, it's like, nah,

986
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm let me just get back to the studio and

987
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: find something else to put out, because like you said,

988
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: I ain't I'm not doing traditional promotion. I'm not doing

989
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: none of the ship, y'all gonna have me go and do.

990
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: I can do this on my time, my turns, And

991
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying an instant return like folks.

992
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: On a different level though, like your people really fuck

993
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: with you. Niggas fuck with you so they own you hard.

994
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I've been hearing niggas for

995
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 4: years and years and years.

996
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: Like, nah, I fuck with bro like even rappers like

997
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 5: till y'all can't even rappers like me, Nah start leaving.

998
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I don't never heard the

999
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: niggas say you know what I'm saying. Nah, you know

1000
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's on some real ship.

1001
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 5: They'd be like, who hard that nigga a hard You

1002
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. They be saying, he started a

1003
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 5: lot of ship. The nigga don't know. You know what

1004
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, Like for real,

1005
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: I just give you that right now, face to face.

1006
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: That's real, that's real. Yeah. Should I honor those that

1007
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: say it out loud too? Yeah? You know, because that's

1008
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: in the game too. People hold their nuts on you

1009
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: and act like they didn't see what you doing. Just

1010
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: just the same and it's like, so put.

1011
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: The book bag of nuts on their backs.

1012
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: Counting enough so the people that that do recognize and

1013
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: cold the nuts in fact around stupid. It's real, it's

1014
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: worth something, you know what I'm saying. That's that's worth

1015
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: something to me.

1016
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, dope broad big See they won't glad. I

1017
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: ain't went no real rap because that should have been

1018
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: hard for me to stages.

1019
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: So like you just so god damn poised. You know

1020
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is what the word poised?

1021
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1022
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like you don't seem like

1023
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: you easy get rattled. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1024
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: that's a gift, bro, Yeah.

1025
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: Ain't you don't pop it when you can pop it?

1026
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That's a gift because I'll

1027
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: be talking shit.

1028
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: But a lot of experience, man, like they say, probably

1029
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: come before the file, and I just the times when

1030
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: I was most full of full of myself, that's when

1031
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 3: the bullshit come my way, you know what I'm saying,

1032
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: And that's that's just on a life level. So I

1033
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: take it good the bad in between, I type the

1034
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: ship and stride. You know what I'm saying, My my

1035
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: brightest days or damn, it looks like the worst of

1036
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: it cause one week condition where I come from to

1037
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 3: tuck it in, you know what I'm saying, when you

1038
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: go through something, And that's why I put certain shit

1039
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: on my music because it's like I know what they

1040
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: feel like to have to act like, ain't nothing wrong

1041
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: with you and it out yeah, Or I'm speaking with

1042
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: somebody that you can't see.

1043
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 4: You don't know how to and don't even got the

1044
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: nuts to let it out there. Yeah, for sure, what's

1045
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 4: the what's the uh?

1046
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 5: Like one of the most memorable experiences from a fan,

1047
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 5: like walking up on you telling you their story or whatever.

1048
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh man, somebody somebody told me that they was they

1049
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: was going through something that was in the hospital. They

1050
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 3: was I don't remember the condition they said they had,

1051
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: but they was going through it and it was like, damn,

1052
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: the deathbed type situation. And they taught their people to

1053
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: play play my Mental Warfare album and uh, they was

1054
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: like they listened to it every day and they attribute

1055
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: that to them turning the corner with they you know

1056
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, from their illness the spirit together. Yeah,

1057
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: And I was like, they was crying telling me telling

1058
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: me this and now that's just you know, in confidence,

1059
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 3: and I was like, I for whatever was worth. I

1060
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 3: believed the way because people shared other things like that,

1061
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 3: but it was it just it moved me because I

1062
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: know why I was there when I made that music,

1063
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: and I couldn't pinpoint what it was. They heard that

1064
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: they had that effect on them, but they believe that

1065
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: moving forward, and for them to be able to share

1066
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: that with me, it was like, damn, Like the power

1067
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: of music, you know what I'm saying. You can be

1068
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: making something to get yourself out of a dark space

1069
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: or whatever, and then it come back tenfold for somebody else,

1070
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: you know. And it's been a few stories like that,

1071
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: people like I was going through chemotherapy and I made

1072
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: them play this every day, and that was just it

1073
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: was just programming my mind and like I'm gonna be

1074
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: all right kind of thing. I'm like, damn that that

1075
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: just do something else for me as a like as

1076
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: an artist and as a person. You know, a lot

1077
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: of times I meet a lot of people that I

1078
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: ain't encouraging it, but I meet a lot of people

1079
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: that got ground hard, got my logo tattooed on them,

1080
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 3: and things like that. I'm like, damn, like this comes

1081
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: from the block. This is from the neighborhood. Like you,

1082
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm in Colorado and you know what I'm saying, and

1083
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 3: it's something that you attach yourself to that much to

1084
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: you know, like damn, it's a lot of moments like that.

1085
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: Like you said, the people, if they rock with me,

1086
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: it seemed like they rock with me completely, like people

1087
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: grew up with me. It's a lot of times that

1088
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: you know, the all the farther I go with it

1089
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: all that. I get a lot of people like man,

1090
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: I've been listening to so I was in sixth grade.

1091
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, which make a nigga feel old, But at

1092
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: the same time, like damn, and you're still rocking with

1093
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: me kind of time or like I said, just just

1094
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 3: things that like whatever I was doing back then wasn't

1095
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: in vain because it brought you along and you still

1096
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: hear kind of thing. But yeah, people is like testimonials

1097
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: almost because I'm like, damn, I ain't. I ain't see

1098
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: myself as that I was. Like I said, I started

1099
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: off just just on some man I was. I was

1100
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: a punchline rapper. I was rapping probably like fab or

1101
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: somebody when I first started just you know, trying to make.

1102
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: Every line be.

1103
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: Like you know, to evolve into like uh like storytelling

1104
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: to just being relatable and all that. I'm like, so

1105
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: I ain't see starting off when I was first putting

1106
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: pee in a past that somebody would be able to

1107
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: say my music was life changing for them. Will save

1108
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: they like when people say stuff like that, it's like, damn,

1109
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 3: that's that's deep, you know what I'm saying.

1110
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: You still like throughout the process of your career, Like,

1111
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: did the communications stay intact with somebody like Stunning Gotty,

1112
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: Geezy and all them.

1113
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: Nah?

1114
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: No, I probably talked to got It most recently. A

1115
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: lot of people know me and God that kept a

1116
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: open line, a pretty a pretty cool relationship past that.

1117
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: I think our last song, money bag Yo, brought me

1118
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: out in Nashville his arena tour, and you know, it

1119
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: reached out and I chopped it over got It backstage there.

1120
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 3: And I think because of how and when we linked,

1121
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: we you know what I'm saying, our bond kind of

1122
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 3: more or less they of the same.

1123
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 6: You know.

1124
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: When I went on went on my own, I think

1125
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: it was a respect thing because not only it was

1126
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: just you know, I came into it as as my

1127
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: own man, but I also took it, took it up

1128
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: a notch on my own. And I mean we had

1129
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: conversations about that or like like I said, on respect

1130
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: and vice versa, like he definitely took it up ten

1131
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: not since then even I command him turning up so

1132
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: many other artists because I was one of his first artists,

1133
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: and like I don't have no I don't have no

1134
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: regrets of how things worked out or played out with

1135
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 3: our situation. But the same thing I was saying, I

1136
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: look at it as part of like part of that

1137
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: success stories to learning curve or you know what I'm saying,

1138
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 3: the hiccups and the hurdles with our situation. I'm sure

1139
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: that he got some game when he learned some things,

1140
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Broker in a deal with

1141
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: me or the other artistles around at that time was

1142
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: able to, you know what I'm saying, get right or

1143
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: do some better different moving forward. So I always am

1144
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: like we for show a part of each other's story

1145
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: and their regard the other people. Like nah, I think

1146
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: some of the other situations was what they was. It

1147
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: ain't they ain't like no negativity or bitterness or whatever,

1148
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: just on certain levels just business and then in real

1149
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: time like, uh, some of the situations just kind of

1150
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: stopped where they was. But now I ain't really kept

1151
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: kept in touch.

1152
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: Why imposta syndrome?

1153
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: For the name of this project, my album, imposter syndrome

1154
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: kind of it was a double meaning one on the

1155
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: literal like scientific like medical or whatever. The imposter syndrome

1156
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: is like like the belief that your best isn't good enough.

1157
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: It's like if you like self doubt or or whatever,

1158
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: like having imposter syndrome, if y'all sat here and was like, man,

1159
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, I don't think. I don't

1160
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: think big facts is top tier like that kind of mindset.

1161
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: So that's something that probably I might have dealt with

1162
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: it early in my career. I think a lot of

1163
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: people deal with of like and I feel like I've

1164
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: conquered that I got on the other side of it,

1165
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: of like I'm the best there ever will be it

1166
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: being me, and so like I don't have imposta syndrome,

1167
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: you know, And it's like showing improven like look why

1168
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: I am now I ain't dealing with it? Like that's

1169
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: a that's a flower mindset. It was like, now, as

1170
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: long as I'm doing my best, that's good enough kind

1171
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: of things. The opposite, the double meaning of it is

1172
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: also the rap game. I think, damn there, everybody is faking.

1173
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are wearing a mask.

1174
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: I think the rap game in large is full of impostas,

1175
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: and so it's my commentary on it. It's kind of

1176
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: like I said, double a sword, or like most of

1177
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: the people y'all listening to their posture and they're putting

1178
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: on you know what I'm saying. I think a lot

1179
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: of people are miserable just what they present. And it's like,

1180
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: so I was, you know, it was kind of a

1181
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: play on words in the sense of like the the

1182
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: record y'all your favorite rappers are damn live. I remember

1183
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 3: that song. It's like, I like, that's that's my commentary

1184
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: on it, and I'm I am proud to not be

1185
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: in that space. Then I ain't wearing a mask. When

1186
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: I walk out the booth, I'm the same person. You

1187
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Go get in my car and

1188
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: go home. I'm the same person. Like that's what that's

1189
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 3: what I'm bringing to the game, And I ain't knocking

1190
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: nobody for listening to nothing else. So I enjoy some

1191
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: of the music. I just know I crossed paths with

1192
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: some of these people and it ain't with you. And

1193
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: so it was between that, like I said, on a

1194
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: mental health level of like, man, you good enough, you

1195
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: all right, You're gonna be all right, like just stay

1196
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: down or whatever else. And then I'm like, you ain't

1197
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: gotta be like nobody else, So you ain't gotta You

1198
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: don't have to do what everybody else doing to succeed

1199
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: or win. And I'm proof of that. I'm living proof

1200
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: of that. Like you said, I'm comfortable in Mom's skin,

1201
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: so I don't have to you know what I'm saying,

1202
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 3: certain things don't matter. It don't matter to me anymore.

1203
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 3: And that was part of the theme of it. I

1204
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: ain't I come from a certain element and it's proving

1205
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: and whatever else, but I don't have nothing to prove,

1206
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: so on this album, I'm not really I'm not propping

1207
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: up like street shit. If the songs one I'm talking

1208
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: about street things is like from the element of regretting

1209
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 3: it or from like thinking better of it, I'm detached

1210
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: from that or even you know, on the outro, it's

1211
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: Kyle finished line again a double meaning of like, man,

1212
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: I did all it, Like that's cool, but it really

1213
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: ain't cool. But also are they finished line? Because they

1214
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: ain't did half of this And it's like and y'all looking,

1215
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: this is man, you hear that? Like, Like, I mean,

1216
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: I don't lost so many homeboys, friends peers that like.

1217
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: And I've been on both sides of out of foolishness

1218
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: to say that, ain't it? That ain't cool? Like you

1219
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's probably some drill rap that

1220
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: I hear and like and turn up to if I'm

1221
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: out of feeling it. But I'm like, I can't. I

1222
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 3: can't do that, Like I almost feel like a sucker

1223
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: if I do it in this space because I've seen it.

1224
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: I've seen the results of it, and it's like that

1225
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 3: ain't nothing to celebrate. But you know what I'm saying,

1226
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm older, I'm I've grown a little wise out of

1227
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: vives to this point, So I'm just trying to speak

1228
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: to certain themes and ideas from like all around it

1229
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: because a lot of times we can only get we

1230
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: only get one vantage point on one perspective and That's

1231
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: why a lot of artists be stuck in that mold

1232
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 3: because they might have broke through talking this kind of

1233
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: talk and it worked, it hit, it might have been real,

1234
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: it might have really been their story. But then you

1235
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: had all the success and you stuck there. And that's

1236
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: the only kind of music you can make. Now at

1237
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: that point, you're faking, you know what I'm saying, because

1238
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: you ain't living like that.

1239
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: I think the power tongue can attract certain stuff for sure,

1240
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: for sure.

1241
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I'm like, nah, I want to

1242
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: I rather keep it real, you know. And even just

1243
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: on the narrator level, you know what I'm saying. I

1244
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: got three or four relationship songs on the album. It

1245
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: ain't really been my strong point of my focal point

1246
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: on my music, but that's more of my reality than

1247
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 3: shoot them up, bang bang or sell this. And like, man,

1248
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I got more dealings with

1249
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: women than confrontational stuff on this level. And I can

1250
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: talk about this molde directly and in a better space.

1251
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: But but I saw it's like what you're taking from

1252
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: and what you learning from it, Like I used to

1253
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: be afraid to make them kind of songs for thinking like,

1254
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: oh man, they gonna say I went soft for this

1255
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: and there now in the space like this is my

1256
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: reality and what I found is some of the Street

1257
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: Cats and everything, like man, that's my favorite song, the

1258
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: love song, the breakup song or whatever. It's like, Damn.

1259
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 3: It's like because we're human, you know what I'm saying,

1260
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: And ain't nobody doing it. Ain't nobody making them songs

1261
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: because it's just like we just gotta be hard on

1262
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: the gap. We gotta you know what I'm saying. It's like,

1263
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: what about being hard on yourself because you know what

1264
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you messed up or whatever. You know. So yeah,

1265
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: it's like being in a certain pocket or like, man,

1266
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: I ain't wearing a mask and I think I think

1267
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: we need to pull the mask about. Yeah, you know,

1268
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: free yourself from it because I seen it. Man, I've

1269
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: seen people with a lot of success. They're like they're

1270
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: miserable because it's like I got put.

1271
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: You're looking in the mirror, Look in the mirror.

1272
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: Stress nigga fakeing fuck?

1273
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: Man?

1274
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you nigga know they faking fuck wake up every

1275
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 4: day trying to go outside and be faking. Yeah, that ship.

1276
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 5: That ship has to be miserable even even even even

1277
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 5: even like in relationships or anything else, like you know

1278
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 5: you're faking them, motherfucker.

1279
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 4: You gotta remember your line exactly. You have to remember

1280
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 4: your line. You gotta practice this ship that then you

1281
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 4: lose yourself.

1282
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 5: Once you lose yourself, you're gonna be mad all the

1283
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 5: time because you know you ain't even got you will

1284
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 5: you just mad as fuck? Man, you shaid faked fuck

1285
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 5: like this ship eating you up. It's a lot of

1286
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 5: niggas going through that ship. Yeah, nigga, many mad niggas.

1287
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, I know, nigga, man a mother, have the phone,

1288
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: Just have the phone and.

1289
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 4: Come on, man, niggas don't want to stop. Fans nigga want.

1290
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: You a bit.

1291
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: You Yeah, for sure.

1292
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like real ship. It's just like, man,

1293
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 4: you folks help you.

1294
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: You.

1295
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 5: You gotta remember that time you was big. You you

1296
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 5: couldn't wait till somebody wanted the picture to be heard

1297
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 5: or you know what I'm saying.

1298
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: You couldn't wait till motherfucker recognized you.

1299
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 5: Now that they recognize you, get on your nerves because

1300
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: they you knowing they're not recognizing you.

1301
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: They finished line.

1302
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: What you said, they finished line. They recognized no facade,

1303
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: and like you said, now you gotta you gotta own it.

1304
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: You gotta embrace that. And I mean that's got to

1305
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 3: be exhausting and everything else. Like man, I remember a

1306
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: conversation and I kind of spell the details or how

1307
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: it went, but I was encouraged to rap about certain

1308
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: things like when I was young, and I mean, truth

1309
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 3: be told, it was it was my reality. So I'm like,

1310
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: it's second nature. I know all about it to talk

1311
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: about it. But it was like from a corporate level. Later,

1312
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: the older I got, I was like, damn, this is

1313
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 3: a this is an agenda, this is like this is

1314
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 3: what it the type to get to, you know. And

1315
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was agenda, if it was

1316
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: just what was working. So they like go with this move,

1317
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, I can't beat them just because

1318
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: that's working for them. But I also like fast forward

1319
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: and look at it like they stuck though. They can

1320
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: never get out of their caricature, like because I guess

1321
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: because it worked or because they took it so far

1322
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: like just exaggerating shit, and you know what I mean,

1323
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I mean I might wake up in

1324
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: a bad move. I might want to tell you everything

1325
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: and went wrong. You know, I remember that song breaking

1326
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: through walk a Flog Funk my money up now that

1327
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: that song moved me because up until the end, it

1328
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: was just like a hundred bricks, We're gonna you know

1329
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1330
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 7: I'm like to hear young niggas say everybody nigga seventy

1331
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 7: five million times.

1332
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.

1333
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: They're relatable, you know what I'm saying. Just being given

1334
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 3: a different perspective of it was like, Damn, that's.

1335
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: Why people like the pay music too, Like like the

1336
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: wrong way with the Resisshauns or whoever the case is.

1337
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: The nigga that just going there and saying, man, I'm hurting.

1338
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 5: You need to stop hurting God Damn, Like some of

1339
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: these niggas ain't never gonna get out that part.

1340
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: It's power for something that saying that, it's power. The

1341
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: tongue so good.

1342
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like how many niggas like, damn, bro,

1343
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 4: I want to see you happy? Bro? Yeah?

1344
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah that too. It's gotta be balanced.

1345
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: It'd be business too on that level.

1346
01:08:53,720 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 4: I guess happy heal at home, nah man, I just think.

1347
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 4: I just think you just can't take this ship literal

1348
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 4: no more. You know what I'm saying. Like we're just

1349
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 4: saying last last week was interviewing.

1350
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 5: Yo, like you can't take these artists literal, like back

1351
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 5: in the day, I used to take like artists literal,

1352
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 5: like too short.

1353
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: You can't tell me that Nigga wasn't too short. You

1354
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

1355
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 5: Eight bolling brother, I was that I was. I was

1356
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 5: with them Nigga was talking about in my mind. You

1357
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 5: get what I'm saying. So then I funk around, turned

1358
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 5: around to.

1359
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: Meet you, and it's like, I ain't doing that. I

1360
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 4: ain't never since then, I ain't ever believe in that

1361
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 4: type of shit no more. It's like I don't take

1362
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 4: it literal like the tooth fare, Yeah, you can't.

1363
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 5: You just gotta look at it for what it is.

1364
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: And I tell my kids that, I tell my grand like,

1365
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 5: this is the same thing you see. Okay, you see

1366
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 5: the man that died in this movie, right, I'm gonna

1367
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 5: go his Instagram that he go, he ain't dead. Same

1368
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 5: thing you see the boy rapping by he doing all that.

1369
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 5: He hear you what it like? You guys just letting

1370
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 5: them know that this ship is like like you said,

1371
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 5: cartoons or some ship. Yeah, I mean it would memorize you.

1372
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: It's a it's a very like smile select few that

1373
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: they appeal, they aesthetic, their lifestyle actually matches, you know

1374
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, how they're rocking. And to me, that's

1375
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: the that's a sweet spot, and that's you know what

1376
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's the ones that's here to stay. That's

1377
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 3: the ones that people like really embraced because because people

1378
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 3: feel that fact, you know, And that's what that's my

1379
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: trophy is for somebody, you know, to be able to say, man, nah,

1380
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: I met dude and this happened. You know, Man, I

1381
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 3: met him. I had my kids, right, they asked, but

1382
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: my kids great? Like do real like that ain't in

1383
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 3: my wraps. But it go parallel with what I'm rapping about.

1384
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying, especially like now, like

1385
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: like you asked me, like being a parent is at

1386
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 3: the front, Like that's what I wake up and go

1387
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 3: to sleep doing. I'm daddy before him anything else. So

1388
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 3: it's spilled over into the booth. Two hours ago, my

1389
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 3: almost paternity leaves like it was coming out of covid.

1390
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm spending twenty four hours with my child, like the

1391
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: world shut down. Like I was telling you, that's when

1392
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: I got most hip to y'all show. I'm watching the

1393
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: Zoom episodes and I'm like, I'm but I'm she right there.

1394
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Everything she eating, I'm cooking.

1395
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like I ain't leaving

1396
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: an eyesight when it's time for me to go make

1397
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: some rap songs because I missed rapping because I couldn't

1398
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: go to the studio. I couldn't get out of the

1399
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 3: damn house. So when I could, I ain't really had

1400
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: nothing else to wrap about. It's time I'm living like

1401
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: I couldn't leave out of there and go wrap about.

1402
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 3: I ain't nobody doing no street shit unless you're scamming

1403
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 3: or you know what I'm saying, whatever, getting anything like that.

1404
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 3: But I'm like this what I'm doing. So you know,

1405
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 3: I spoke on it and it's like shit, I imagine

1406
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: it's a lot of other people doing the same thing,

1407
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: you know, and so it become relatable on their level,

1408
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: but a lot of people don't have it. Like That's

1409
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 3: that's what I cherish more than how much your sales,

1410
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: how much your stream. And fortunately it's still like viable.

1411
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: It's still you know what I'm saying, still like in

1412
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 3: you know, in the mix.

1413
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 4: That's why I like I said, this ship with folk

1414
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 4: like we've been conditioned.

1415
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 6: Man.

1416
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 4: You know what mother can tell you got to learn

1417
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 4: how to act. I hate that. Don't tell me to

1418
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 4: learn how to act. Ain't acting. I'm being me, Yeah,

1419
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 4: just don't fuck with me. You can't act like that

1420
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 4: around them. I ain't acting.

1421
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 5: Like in certain places you can't act like that. Well,

1422
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 5: I don't need to be there if I can't be me.

1423
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 5: That's a real nigga shit though.

1424
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 4: You got a lot of people feel like if you

1425
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 4: got it.

1426
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 5: Bro, if you gotta go in a environment and change

1427
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 5: who you are to be in that environment, eventually you're

1428
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 5: gonna you just all you're doing is pulling your man

1429
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 5: down and then you get mad if a motherfucker try

1430
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 5: you a certain way when they trying the nigga you

1431
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 5: acting like you here.

1432
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 4: If I was being men you with, then I ain't

1433
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 4: going for that what you're doing.

1434
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 5: I don't even play like that. I don't even talk

1435
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 5: like that. I'm not engaging in that type of conversation.

1436
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 5: It's just like you put yourself in one of them parties,

1437
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 5: one of the weird parties that you know these folks

1438
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 5: doing in the party, you know what these folking on for,

1439
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 5: and they try your niggas feel on your.

1440
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 4: Ass and you ad like, you may see what we're

1441
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 4: doing this party? What was on? I ain't even going

1442
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 4: so I can't act like.

1443
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 5: But niggas is not acting though for real even not

1444
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 5: even just rapp acting real life people. Like it's hard

1445
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 5: to even it's hard to even distinguish if your loved

1446
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 5: ones acting.

1447
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: Friends and your family.

1448
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 5: It's hard out here, bro, Like cause this this this

1449
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 5: internet ship. Don't put like a facade one dough over

1450
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 5: everybody eyes. Bro, It's like I gotta be like this,

1451
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 5: so I gotta act like this. I gotta shit fucked up.

1452
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. That was That's what I was going

1453
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 3: with it with the album, was like, of course, I'm

1454
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: speaking from my own unique perspective because I like music,

1455
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: and I'm comparing it like rap game because it's it's

1456
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: a competitive space and it's like how do you set

1457
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 3: yourself apart? Or this? What like I said, this is

1458
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: what I bring to the typele it's different, but on

1459
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 3: a like human night your level, or like you said,

1460
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 3: the human condition where we at like most people are

1461
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 3: posturing or because of that, we programming the idea that

1462
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 3: what you're doing ain't good enough. You know, like I've

1463
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 3: seen it, like you got your your own memories, you

1464
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: got whatever to share, and you're like, man, well I can't,

1465
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 3: I can't post it. I ain't gonna post my car

1466
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: because it ain't this kind of car, you know what

1467
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Because but it'll be somebody else that rent

1468
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 3: at that car and took a bunch of pictures in

1469
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: front of it, but they making you feel like yours

1470
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 3: ain't good enough. You know that J Coles love yours

1471
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: like no such things or life that's better than yours.

1472
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: Like that might be one of my favorite rap songs,

1473
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 3: just the mindset of it, because it's like that's impost syndromes,

1474
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: like we are lost in large part because we it's

1475
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: keeping up. It's you know, comparing your life or whatever

1476
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 3: your optics to somebody else's like, nah, it's good enough.

1477
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: You're waking up, you breathing, you healthy, whatever you got.

1478
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: It's something you know what I'm saying, you can want more,

1479
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 3: but you know it ain't a successful failure based on

1480
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 3: like if that's the you know what I'm saying, you're

1481
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 3: giving it all you got. Like, man, that's that's great.

1482
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 4: You know what soppy my life turned out?

1483
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 3: For sure?

1484
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 5: Then how it go, I'm straight, you know what I'm saying.

1485
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 5: However it go anything from this point on, it's extra, Brook.

1486
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 5: We weren't even supposed to be here in niggas mind.

1487
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 5: Niggas ain't supposed to be here.

1488
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 4: Doing this, this sen in no podcasts. You know my

1489
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 4: leg cram this ship extra whatever else come after this, Bro,

1490
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 4: I'm already blessed. That's how I look at this. Niggas

1491
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 4: be one what another nigga got. That's what they say.

1492
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: Comparison is the cousin of hate.

1493
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 3: Joy.

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Speaker 4: No, that is the cousin of hate. Comparison. If you

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Speaker 4: see a nigga always comparing himself. But I got the

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Speaker 4: though you slick hate what the fuck is me? And

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Speaker 4: you were not in competition on thumb or two?

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Speaker 1: Tell you what your ship hard?

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Speaker 5: do you see mine? You know what I'm saying to

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Speaker 5: me that slick hate. Yeah, why do you even gotta

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Speaker 5: say that?

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, you Sally got now. But you just killed them,

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