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Speaker 1: it was a rough oneness last week. We we tried

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Speaker 1: fifty two and a half because that half point has

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Speaker 1: never been more important than it is right now. Dude,

430
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: and I and I was like, that over is going

431
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: to hit either either way. It is incredible, how how

432
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: sharp the shots are, Yeah, because it was. It was right.

433
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: So with several uh several late weird defensive scores and

434
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: just the forty six point win for Utah, forty six

435
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: point win when U c l A thought they had

436
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: all the momentum going into that game. I mean, I know,

437
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: I know U c l A fans who flew out

438
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: expecting the upset. Well, I I thought it could happen.

439
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: I literally thought it could happen. And I could not

440
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: have been anymore wrong. And you have to give so

441
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: much credit to Utah because they have been absolutely mean.

442
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: I mean they have been mean, dude, Like they have

443
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: been destroying people, destroying people. They are on a mission

444
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: to put up the best style points possible. They are

445
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: not letting up from from anybody. They're not giving anybody

446
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: any space or any room to to breathe. I think

447
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: it's absolutely fantastic to see at a team playing well.

448
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: And so here's the other thing. They're six and oh

449
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: at home. Tyler Huntley had another almost a perfect game,

450
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: almost perfect. Zack Moss had an almost perfect game. I

451
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: mean that we're talking about a team that's probably going

452
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: to go to the Pack twelve championship, probably has a

453
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: shot to win. It probably is going to garner a

454
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: bunch of Pack twelve specific postseason awards. Their number seven

455
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: right now in the college Football playoff pole, and their

456
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: recruiting class is only six deep, with the highest being

457
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: a three star, and they've had two commits this month

458
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: to get them to six. Why isn't it translating into

459
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: kids wanting to go to school there? And now, mind you,

460
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: five of the six kids that they've gotten committed for

461
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: the class of all from Texas. So not one from

462
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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve footprint, one from Hawaii, five in Texas.

463
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: What is going on, George? What do you mean? Man?

464
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: Utah hadn't been, you know, a team that was just

465
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Speaker 1: garnering national attention like that. They were the team who

466
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: threatened to beat UH two, threatened USC or or whoever

467
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: else was leading the packwells out to threaten them and

468
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: then they would falter. So it wasn't a hot bad

469
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: for you know, for recruits. Nobody wakes up outside of

470
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: the state of Utah and it's like, oh, I would

471
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: to go be a you you know, it's not popping

472
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: on the recruiting trail like that. You go to Utah

473
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: to be coached up. You go to Utah to be

474
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: really good. When you're a a junior or a senior.

475
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: You don't go to Utah thinking, oh, I'm gonna be

476
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: out of here in three years. That's not what most

477
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: kids do. But Kyle Whittingham fantastic coach, great motivator, great leader.

478
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: He's put together a staff that coaches kids up. They

479
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: have stability there. That's what this has translated from. I

480
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: mean because Urban Meyer won there too, but it wasn't

481
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: in a Power of five conference. And Utah is showing

482
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: all right, we got the juice and I and the

483
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: part that is crazy to me is this M. I

484
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: have consistently said that that Tyler Huntley was not good

485
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: enough offensively. I have consistently said that they could not

486
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: run their way to a Pack twelve championship, that they

487
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: could not that he was going to have to be

488
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: great at some point in time in the season. And

489
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Speaker 1: when I say great, I mean spectacular performances. Do something

490
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: outside of the norm, do something pretty spectacular. And yes,

491
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: this last game against u C. L A, he was

492
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: four team for eighteen. How do you go fourteen for

493
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: eighteen with thirty five yards and two touchdowns. I mean

494
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: that's absolutely incredible. Like that means that U c l

495
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: A's defense, You're you're averaging damn near twenty yards of reception.

496
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: That's stupid and um actually more than twenty yards of reception.

497
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: And it's just so like crazy to see what's going

498
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: on because that just does not happen. But I am

499
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: still holding out just just because, like everything in football

500
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: tells me that if you want to do something special,

501
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: your quarterback eventually has to do something special. And that

502
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: means when you're running game is not working, he has

503
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: to save the day. And out of their last two games,

504
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: when did they have Arizona and Colorado, I don't think

505
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to save the day, but he may

506
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: have to save the day if they play in to

507
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: be the organ. So I'm holding out on that route

508
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: right So and and not a lot of people realize

509
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Alex Smith left Utah early. He cut out early. He

510
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: had a huge junior season thirty two touchdown passes, four interceptions.

511
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was he was special. He was someone

512
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: who probably should have I think that was a hesman

513
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: worthy season on his part. But what people talk about

514
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: is his sophomore year. His sophomore year, he completed six

515
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: passes for about yards, had fifteen touchdowns and three interceptions.

516
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what Tyler Huntley has doneassing thirty touchdowns,

517
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: one interception. He's sort of having a year that reminds

518
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: me al Alex Smith's junior or not, I guess sophomore season,

519
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: which was which was a special year in of itself.

520
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I weren't you going to be there

521
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: for for another year, Um to come out and possibly

522
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: bust out, But maybe that happens at the NFL. I

523
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: know two thousand three Utah you team with a soft

524
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Alex too um with little been mare at the helm

525
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: and uh and you know they finished twenty one in

526
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: the in the final a people and I just those

527
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: seasons in my mind kind of stick out to me.

528
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: That's what it reminds me of is I think that

529
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: he's on the cusp of doing something really special, but

530
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: he might not have the opportunity to do it because

531
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Speaker 1: the next step for him is the most competitive step

532
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. Yeah, Tyler Huntley, you have Tyler Huntley,

533
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: justin Herbert and you have Alex Gordon, who are all

534
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: still up UH. They're part of the five finalists for

535
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: the nation's top quarterback, the Johnny Unitis Award. And you

536
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: have Justin Herbert and Zack Moss, who are two of

537
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: the twenty semifinalists for the UH for the Maxwell Award

538
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: for the Best Player in College Football, and Bradley and

539
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: I and Evan Weaver are two of the top semifinalists

540
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: for the Chuck be Narik Award for the Most Outstanding

541
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Speaker 1: Defensive Player. Like, this is how crazy that this is

542
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: that you have Utah who has Who's Like there's an

543
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: article on Unafraid Show as well about why Tyler Huntley

544
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback in the PACT twelve. He obviously

545
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: doesn't project, like you were saying, into the NFL that way,

546
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of Utah people that do believe. They're, like, dude,

547
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: this dude's Russell Wilson. They think he is, you know,

548
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: can be you similar to Lamar Jackson, even though it's

549
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: not quite as explosive. But there may be a market

550
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: for for him in the NFL because of the success

551
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: of mobile quarterbacks and teams willing to change their offense.

552
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: He may be a guy who could have some NFL

553
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: success if he goes to the right right team, which

554
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: is oddly shocking to me because nothing before the season

555
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: ever gave you that belief. That's fair. Yeah, um, all right,

556
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: the next game up from Week twelve, you got Stanford

557
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: in Washington State. We can we we can be brief

558
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: on this game, I guess, because there's nothing positive to

559
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: say about Stanford at this point in time. Nothing there

560
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: is intellectual brutality is broken. And I don't think that

561
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: this is a oh well, it'll get fixed next season, no,

562
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: because it was broken last year. And when something's broken

563
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: two years in a row, it's broken like there's no

564
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: salvaging it. Like there needs to be a complete overhaul

565
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: of offense. And I don't know if David Shaw is

566
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: willing to do that after this game Washington State, and

567
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: I know that it's Washington State, but I'm including this

568
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: in the context of everything that he's done this year,

569
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: when he had to play a lot of snaps against USC,

570
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps at Orient State, and also against

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Speaker 1: Washington which I think was actually his best performance. Davis

572
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Mills is the guy. I'm trying not to be reactionary,

573
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: but I believe it. I think this team is better

574
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: with him under center. He's got eight touchdowns, three interceptions,

575
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: four yards passing on the season. He threw for over

576
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: five hundred yards against Washington State. That wasn't even the

577
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: game that impressed me most. The game that impressed me

578
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: most was that one month ago against Washington in a win,

579
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: he was one thirty two nine and a touchdown, and

580
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: that he was able to move the ball with his

581
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: feet a little bit when he needed to um. But

582
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: this game against Washington, this came after one month of

583
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: just chilling, and he gets up and throws for five yards.

584
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: Like this is the best spots starter in all of

585
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: college football, right, I mean, he's He's put together some really,

586
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: really good performances. I think that I would hate to

587
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: see the bench k J. Costello in what essentially is

588
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: the meaningless last two games of the season, because I

589
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: don't think that they're being noted Dame and I don't

590
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: think that they're going to a bowl. But I think

591
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: you've got to see what you have in Davis Mills.

592
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a really, really tough decision to

593
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: make because k J. Costello has done nothing but show

594
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: up for them and sacrifice his body. I don't know

595
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: how you feel about it, George, but I'm just saying

596
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think Davis Mills is the guy. Yeah, listen,

597
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: you have to do what's right for the program. You

598
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: have to do what's right for the players around there.

599
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: K kJ Costello has had has had a shot and

600
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: at this point in time, you're spiraling out of control.

601
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: So so doing what you know Kevin Sumlin is doing

602
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: down at Arizona, and the quarterback shuffle is only gonna

603
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: end up getting you fired in the process. And I

604
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: know David Shaw has a lot of good will built

605
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: up at Stanford, but there's only so long that that

606
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: good will lasts and you have to go out and

607
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: do something else. Again, Stanford only ran rand the ball

608
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: ten times in this game. They threw it fifty times,

609
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: and truth be told, that's probably the the answer. And

610
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: then on the other side you had Anthony Gordon. He

611
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: threw for five hundred yards five five touchdowns, Max Borgi

612
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: rushed for a hundred and ten yards. I know, um uh,

613
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Stanford secondary was just absolutely decimated. The top two corners

614
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: were out with which made this game just an absolute runaway.

615
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: But I mean these are pretty typical Mike Leach numbers,

616
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: but even bigger than that for for them. I mean,

617
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: are we seeing Mike Leach coaches last games at Washington

618
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: State because he's been linked to the era, the Arkansas job,

619
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: maybe the Florida State job. I mean, I think that

620
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: this marriage in Washington State is probably over. I want

621
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: to I want to say that deep down that Mike

622
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Leach knows that Pullman is the best place for him.

623
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: And then I think he just enjoys the attention and

624
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: being wanted and what it does to everybody down and

625
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: Lock every time his name is attached to a job

626
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: when you know, Lock still supposedly owes him ten million dollars. Um.

627
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I think I think that that I think that that's

628
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 1: part of it, is just that, you know, I think

629
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: he likes the attention, but I think he knows he's

630
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: in the perfect place for him to be who he

631
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: wants to be, for him to challenge every year. UM.

632
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't see Washington State pushing him out, but who knows.

633
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: Who knows? Like our level of patients as a as

634
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 1: a football watching people is pretty crazy. We're talking about

635
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: David Shaw maybe being done at Stanford when the dude

636
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: has been to what seven eight straight bowls and and

637
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: I know that he hasn't had a ten win season since,

638
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: but this is the best that Stanford has ever been.

639
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: And I know that that's a continuation of harball or whatever, um,

640
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: but you know, we're talking about nine and five, nine

641
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: and four, and then this might be the first time

642
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: that he ever misses a Bowl. And we're like, is

643
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Stanford done forever? And I get that you and I

644
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: have legitimate reasons why we feel that way, that that

645
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: that the m C double A basically every rule change

646
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: hurts Stanford disproportionately, and so like, I'm with you, I'm

647
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: with you on that, But you know, I feel like

648
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: David Shaw's built up enough goodwill to be there as

649
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: long as he wants to, even if they have five

650
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: losing seasons in a row. And I feel that way

651
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: about Mike Leach up in up in the Pullman. But

652
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know if we as a society have

653
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: the ability to even handle continuity, Like what does it

654
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: mean for for for an athletic director to come out

655
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: the way that Vanderbilt athletic director came out this week

656
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: and say, no, it doesn't matter that we're two and eight.

657
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: Derek Mason is our man, and we're supported. We're committed

658
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: to putting in things to make sure that he feels

659
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: supported in that role. Like that, that type of thing

660
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: where you have a coach who's going to be there

661
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: for the long haul. It just doesn't really exist anymore.

662
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: And then definitely not in the Pact twelve, where you

663
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: know it's usually the average is five years and you

664
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Speaker 1: move on. And maybe we're just getting antsy because David

665
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Shaw is in his one ninth year going on tent

666
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: and Mike Leach has been in Pullman for a really

667
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: long time too, so maybe we're just ready for them

668
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: to move on. By I think that both schools would

669
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: be better off keeping things the exactly the way they

670
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: are right now. And I know that Washington States has

671
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: busted out the check book before, you know, when Mike

672
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: Gleach has been linked to jobs like Tennessee and stuff

673
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: like that. So um, while while I know that we

674
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Speaker 1: bust on Mike Leach, I don't want to really see

675
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: him go anywhere. I think he's in the perfect place

676
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: and and I don't really see Pullman being competitive with

677
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: anybody else at this time unless unless they just clean

678
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: house at USC and you feel like Graham Harrold's ready

679
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: to to take a head coaching job or maybe even

680
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: Clay help and maybe the whole staff, you know. But

681
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: I other than that, I really don't see anybody doing

682
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: anything that positive in in Pullman outside of Mike Leach. Yeah,

683
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: it would be hard for anybody to have the same

684
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: success that Mike Leach has had. He he feels like

685
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: one of the He runs a gimmicky offense essentially. I mean,

686
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: it's a really good offense, but it's kind of a gimmick,

687
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: but it's a very it Well, gimmicks only worked for

688
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: so so long, so so that's unfair to call it

689
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: a gimmick. I would call it. It's a It's almost

690
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: like those offenses that used to go like super super

691
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: fast every single play and then you know, like like

692
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly was doing, it creates such an advantage because

693
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: it puts the defense off balance, and so he's able

694
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Speaker 1: to eventually and eventually, I mean I think that Mike

695
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: Leach is really depending on the fact that eventually this

696
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: is what football is gonna be. I mean, you're you're

697
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: a Lakers fan, right, I mean what Paul west Head

698
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: Old NBA. You know, the just score score a million points,

699
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: get up as many shots as you can. You know,

700
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: he was crazy back in his day, and I don't

701
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: think he ever won anything of consequence if I'm if

702
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm remembering correctly. And and then even Mike D'Antoni with

703
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: the seven seconds or less sons, everybody said, you know

704
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: you can't win that way. We'll look look at it

705
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: now like literally everyone plays that way. Um, those two

706
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: guys never want anything with it, but it I think

707
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: that Mike Leach, as you're seeing more and more teams

708
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: shift to the air raid, I think that Mike Leach

709
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: is saying, like, hey, you know me and how Mummy

710
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: and the guy who's you know, the guys who came

711
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: up with this offense, we were ahead of the times,

712
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it's somebody else that has better

713
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: talent that ultimately ends up having success with it, like

714
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: a usc um. But you know at the same time

715
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: that that that it's that someday we're not going to

716
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: call it a gimmick. We're gonna call it. Yeah. I

717
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: definitely think that the offenses are trending that way because

718
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: they are in the NFL too, except for there's a

719
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: retraction with uh with Lamar Jackson, like he is the

720
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: outlier right now, he's the guy who's doing things that

721
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: may change the NFL the way that right the Well,

722
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: I want to bring bring this up super super quick,

723
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: which is the quarterback position, particularly in the NFL. That's

724
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: why you have the Justin Herbert's that are so valuable

725
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: maybe to Jacob Esan's Keenan Slogan's when he's ready to

726
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: come out to attack of the lower all these guys.

727
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: Is that the quarterback position is so valuable because they

728
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: have them just sit back in the pocket. It's just

729
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: stand there, right, But imagine a world where quarterbacks were

730
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: more mobile and ran more college type offenses. You would

731
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: actually see a devaluing of the quarterback position because you

732
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: can have more athletes be able to do some of

733
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: those things that may not be as skilled as passers,

734
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: but the addition to their legs, if they're dynamic enough,

735
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: gives them wide open throwing lanes and makes things a

736
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: lot easier for them. That I digressed so well, we'll

737
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: talk about that later. Yeah, we'll talk about that. Like

738
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: as they got a million opinions on on on that

739
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: whole thing, and that will take up the whole body.

740
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: So we got Arizona and Oregon. Oregon didn't look as

741
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: polished in this game. It's weird. They won thirty four

742
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: to six and the spread was twenty seven and a half.

743
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: They didn't look as polished as you would like them

744
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: to see. But isn't that crazy that you were being

745
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: critical of a team that won thirty four to six

746
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: and did not give up a touchdown. They ranked six

747
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff Justin Herbert was twenty eight

748
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: for three hundred and thirty three yards and four touchdowns.

749
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: It's weird because the stats say something else other than

750
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: what I've like I saw when I watched the game.

751
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: I just feel like Oregon is a really easy team

752
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: to criticize because you always know what's coming. Like they

753
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: they'll move at a at an accelerated tempo, and then

754
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: they'll get a lead, and then they'll try to like

755
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: shift to a pro style to sit on the lead,

756
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: and you'll just see some really ugly plays get run

757
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: and drives get stalled, and they're still moving the ball

758
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: and they're still accomplishing everything they need to accomplish. But

759
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: and and maybe that's just it is Oregon sort of

760
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: allows for the defense to make a couple of big

761
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: plays tackles for loss um stuff and running back or

762
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: breaking up one of those throws over the side. Or

763
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: you know who had an awesome game is is University

764
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: of Arizona safety Tristan cooper Um. I think he intercepted

765
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. He blew Justin Herbert up Um on a blitz.

766
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: He you know, he was playing really well. But so

767
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: those are the things that stick out to me are

768
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: the things that Oregon does wrong. And I think the

769
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: reason that those things stick out is just because, and

770
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: this happened against Auburn, that they go from playing they

771
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: go from pedal to the metal too pro style so quickly,

772
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: and you can tell when they hit the brakes, and

773
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: sometimes it works and sometimes they still break through and score,

774
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: but at some point you just want them to just

775
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: keep that pace up and keep the pedal down um.

776
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: And the one thing that I really noticed about Oregon's

777
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: offense in this game is that they they didn't do

778
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: the best job just moving the ball down the field

779
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: through the air. A lot of this was yards after

780
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: catch stuff and taking advantage of just having better athletes

781
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: on the outside. Um, and I think that that was

782
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a nitpicky to say that that's

783
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: concerning considering how terrible University of Arizona's defensive backs have

784
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: been this year. UM. I mean, yeah, you just took

785
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: advantage of them another way. But you know, I I

786
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: felt like Oregon should have been able to move the

787
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: ball downfield with a little bit more ease than they did. Uh. Again,

788
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: still though this is a blowout win, and so we

789
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't have that much to complain about. I totally I

790
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: agree with you in everything that you said. Uh, there's

791
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: nothing more frustrating than watching Oregon put the brakes on dude,

792
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: just hammer people. But at this But at the same time,

793
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: this is the team that has had a bunch of

794
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: injuries this year, and they suffered another one Micah Pittman

795
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: broke his arm, and and they have already been without

796
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: their wide receivers a number of times this season, which

797
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: has hurt them. So I think that at this point,

798
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, because this is the third or fourth consecutive game,

799
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: UM that um that c J. Verdel hasn't finished the

800
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: game or hasn't played in this that can have And

801
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: because they're trying to keep him healthy. He's a little

802
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: bit banged up there, and they had um and also

803
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: j Jalen Red he got hurt in the game too.

804
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: He may not miss any time, but he but I

805
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: think he ended up with Bruce Ribs or something like

806
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 1: like that. This is a team. They've lost multiple tight ends.

807
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: This is a team that's trying to stay healthy and

808
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: get and get to the Pac twelfth Championship where hopefully

809
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: they'll just keep the pedal to the medical If you don't,

810
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: Utah is coming. Um I got, I got, I got

811
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: two questions for you about this game, because you've got

812
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: to experience the madness that is the quarterback situation at

813
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: University of Arizona. First, oh yeah, yeah, what are your takeaway?

814
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: What are your takeaways from what is the most absurd

815
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: arrangement in all of the Pack twelve this year. Kevin

816
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: sum is trying to get fired. He he's gotta be

817
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean, so you start Grant Gannell find the league,

818
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, we're switching gears. He plays for all

819
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: of a quarter. Stats don't look terrible. He's just played

820
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: against a better team who doesn't have any white outs.

821
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Arizona doesn't have white outs that can compete

822
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: with Oregon's secondary and defense. They just don't. And and

823
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: then you bring in Khalil Tate. Why did you even

824
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: start Danielle if you weren't going to let him just play?

825
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: Then you let Khalil Tate play for like two quarters,

826
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: and then you put Grant Danelle back in. Why what

827
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: are you doing? What are you doing? If the quarterback

828
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: math is one, if you have two quarterbacks, you have

829
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: none one plus one in zero in quarterback math, you

830
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: either have you have one starting quarterback, that is it,

831
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: and you let him play. And when you switch to

832
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: another quarterback, a younger guy, you have to get him

833
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: an ample opportunity. And Kevin Summing is screwing up with this, Ralph.

834
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, that's all I gotta say. And my

835
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: other one is, how about J J. Taylor declaring for

836
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft with two games and possibly a bowl

837
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: left in his junior season Bowl bow? He I mean,

838
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: even if Arizona would then have to they would have

839
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: to beat Utah and beat the Arizona State. Be the

840
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: Arizona State is possible, but their damn should not be

841
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: the Utah. So he'm worried about a bowl game. He

842
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: actually might sit out these last two games. But I

843
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: do think that this could be a Jinks And also,

844
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean, like, this is not like, um, I don't

845
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: know Zack Moss declaring for the NFL. Well, I don't.

846
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be a high draft pick. Okay,

847
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: this is not justin Herbert declaring, well, he's a savior

848
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: Jesus Louise. Oh okay, Well let's let's let's clear one

849
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: thing up before you go into what you're going You

850
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: and I love J. J. Taylor. Yeah, he's a good back.

851
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: He reminds you and he he is. And when he

852
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: is calling he he is calling this. This might be smart,

853
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: but it could backfire. He is calling upon the eyes

854
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: of all scouts to turn their gaze upon him with

855
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: two games left in the season, one of which I

856
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: mean he did this right before the Utah game, right

857
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: before the Utah game, to say, hey, I'm coming out.

858
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: Nobody else has declared definitively, so now everybody needs to

859
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: against Utah. Everybody else is waiting to see if they

860
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: get out of out of the season healthy because this

861
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: could turn out to be the ultimate Jinks well, I'm

862
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: just imagine, imagine the stones it takes to say I'm

863
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: gonna go pro right before you take on the best

864
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: defensive line in the entry. Yeah, and I'm not expected

865
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: to be a first round draft pick. Yeah, all right whatever. Yeah,

866
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: he kind of like like a Brian Hill from Whaleman.

867
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: Like I could see him being like a sixth round

868
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: stashed the running back for a year and then see

869
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: what you can do in his second or third year

870
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But I believe that he's capable of that.

871
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: He's real hard to break down. He's shifty, he's quick. Um,

872
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: he can get he can he can handle thirty carries

873
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: if you need him to. He's done it a few times. Um.

874
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know about declaring before the

875
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Utah game. Yeah, I don't love that. Oh man, I

876
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: don't love it. Um. Now we can move on to

877
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: this week, week thirty and and do you have your power?

878
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: Oh you don't. You don't want to. You don't want

879
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: to talk about a sure trying to run a two version.

880
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: I forgot about that game, dude. That was a disaster.

881
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: So first thing, you have to give Oregon State credit.

882
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: They've won five five games where every I mean everybody

883
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: expected them to win one or two, and Jonathan Smith

884
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: has them competitive in every game except for the best teams.

885
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they could not move the ball against Washington,

886
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: but then their defense showed up and only gave up

887
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: nineteen points. It was nine seven. They got trashed by Utah,

888
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: they got beat up by Oklahoma State, and they're gonna

889
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: get trashed by by by Oregon. But aside from that,

890
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: they're playing good football. And for Arizona State, both of

891
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: these teams are now five and five. I know that

892
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: Oregon State is better, but when you lose to Oregon State,

893
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: that's a bad loss, right, Yes, yes, especially especially when

894
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Arizona State, when they hired HERM. Edwards athletic director Ray

895
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 1: Anderson came out and said, this is nobody's rebuild. We're

896
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: not We're not rebuilding for anybody. We expect to be

897
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: top fifteen in the country, top three in the conference

898
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: every single year. So you can't even even out of

899
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: context a loss to Oregon State when they had lost

900
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: fourteen straight owned games dating back to the Civil War,

901
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: when the students stormed the field after beating a five

902
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: and four Arizona State, that's embarrassing, right, But in the

903
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: context of the expectations that were built when her Edwards

904
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: was hired, this is a disaster. Okay, So what did

905
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: what did you think about the decision to go for

906
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: two at the end of the game, because this was

907
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: not like I understand why North Carolina goes for two

908
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: against Clemson because the more and more times, Clemson is

909
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: just more powerful. They're just better. And we've seen other

910
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: teams try to try to pull off upsets with two

911
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: point converges because they're like, Yo, this is our shot

912
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: right here, because if we keep going to these overtimes,

913
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: these teams are just way too powerful and we're not

914
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: going to be able to do it. I mean, but

915
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: why do you do this against Oregon State? If your

916
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: Arizona State Jadendan is having a good game and let

917
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: me four yards and three touchdowns? Why right? So there's

918
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: a minute forty left in the game, So you're still

919
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to play defense, right, regardless of whether you

920
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: get the two point inversion or not. Um, you're still

921
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: gonna play defense. You you have only allowed them they

922
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: You've only allowed them like ninety total yards in the

923
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: second half, the exact same as the usc game. They

924
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: got blown up early and then they shut it down late. Uh,

925
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: and then so you're down. You're down thirty thirty four.

926
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: You should be up because Eno Benjamin fumbled into the

927
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: end zone on the previous drive and gave the ball back,

928
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: and then you had to get the ball back yourself.

929
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: Go down score and you have an opportunity to make

930
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: the extra point and play defense. And her Medoid says,

931
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't play for the tie. Well, guess what, George,

932
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: there's no ties in college football. You can't tie. There

933
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: is literally no such thing as playing for the tie.

934
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: They're just playing to give your offense another opportunity. They

935
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: only gave you know, Benjamin the ball fifteen times when

936
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: he had three hundred yards rushing last year against them,

937
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: So they threw the ball like thirty seven times, so

938
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: that the game plan was all out of whack. If

939
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: they kicked that extra point. There's a minute forty left.

940
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: They're playing defense, and they're going up against an Oregon

941
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: State kicker who hasn't made a field goal in conference

942
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: play and it's two for seven on the years. Yeah,

943
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: that I'm taking my eyes. So if you play for overtime,

944
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: if you play for overtime even but then you have

945
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: two time outs. You could get the ball back and

946
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: score again. But if you if you play for overtime,

947
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: if you play for overtime in that situation, you're putting

948
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: them on the field with a kicker who can't kick. Dude,

949
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: there were so many things wrong with this, and Arizona

950
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: State has just followed apart their defense that you gave

951
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: so much credit. We remember we did the episode where

952
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about yep. Now I remember I was yep,

953
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what they do and stop defending. I'm

954
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: not gonna do that take anymore. Um, life without a

955
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 1: pass rush, You live life without a pass rush. It's

956
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're back to being like a hundred and

957
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: fifteenth in the country in pass defense. So I got

958
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: got nothing. I've got nothing for this team. Uh positive

959
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: to say? At this point, they are owing four against

960
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve South two and five against the conference

961
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: in general. Um, there's a bad football team. UM. I

962
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: want to talk a bit about something that kind of

963
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: happened that kind of flew under the radar before we

964
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: get to the week third thirteen. There's a guy named

965
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Remogi Huma. He's the executive director for the National College

966
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Players Association, and he spoke as part of a panel

967
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: at u c l A last night that addressed athletes

968
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: comp compensation as it relates to the name, image and likeness,

969
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: and he pointed out he said he has no confidence

970
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: that the n C Double A will change his policies

971
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: their way athletes can profit off their name, image and

972
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: likeness because they failed to come up with a real

973
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: proposal when his Board of governors released the statement in

974
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: October that they were basically just trying to just stop

975
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: the wolves, that they were just trying to stop. Oh yeah,

976
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get to it, but there's no actually

977
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: getting to it. And it said if the n C

978
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: double A was sincere it would enact rules immediately yet

979
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: incorporate California's law to make it uniform nationwide. But they're not.

980
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: They claim it's difficult to figure these things out. It's

981
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: not difficult. This is no longer a blank slate. California's

982
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: athletes will have these rights in a couple of years

983
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: and the n C Double A has no control over that.

984
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: So the question is whether they're gonna make it uniform

985
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: and expand it to all players across the nation or

986
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: whether they're going to fight it. And then there's fifteen

987
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: other states pursuing name, image and likeness legislation and all

988
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: of that. Uh, the n C double A eventually won't

989
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: have a leg to stand on. And you guys, if

990
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: you guys want any information on this stuff, we have

991
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: it fully covered on Unafraid Show, Go to Business of Sports.

992
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: There's a ton of articles on the name image and

993
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: likeness stuff and the crookedness that is the n C

994
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: double A. But I say that to ask you this

995
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: ralph with the n C double A and this, like,

996
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: I I don't know why they won't just get something done,

997
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: because the further you try to kick this can down

998
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: the street, the name image and likeness legislation is not

999
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: going away in California. It's not going away in South Carolina,

1000
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: New York, Florida, Obama, uh, Colorado, any of these other

1001
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: states that are doing it's not going away. Like, why

1002
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: are you trying to continue to kick the can down

1003
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: the down the street? Yeah? I mean that's the problem.

1004
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: The reason that they're in this situation is that that's

1005
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: what they did. They didn't address it in a timely fashion,

1006
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: and now they left the door open for everyone else

1007
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: to have a say through individual pieces of legislation, and

1008
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: you're opening the door for for essentially the federal government

1009
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: to get involved, which is never something that's the sentence.

1010
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: I never like to utter that the government's going to

1011
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: control a private industry of some kind. And so I

1012
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: mean this is they They they held tightly to the

1013
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: ruse of amateurism for so long that now it's completely

1014
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: out of their control. And they had every ability to

1015
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: be forward thinking on this, and they were not. I

1016
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: have no sympathy for the n C double A at

1017
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: all when it comes to it. Do I worry about

1018
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: my own ability to be entertained by college football players.

1019
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: As long as there's college football in some form or another,

1020
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. But if this comes at the

1021
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: expense of a bunch of people who clung to power

1022
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: at the expense of others for a very very long time,

1023
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: and it makes their life harder, I don't lose an

1024
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: pounce of sleep over that with agree with you there,

1025
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: um on to week thirteen. There are a bunch of

1026
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: meaningful games. Ralph tallied up for us how the twelve

1027
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: because we talked a week ago about how the Pack

1028
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: twelve could they have ten teams that were bowl that

1029
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: could be bowl bound, most of them at six and six.

1030
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: But now with the Pack twelve standings as they as

1031
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: they are, that probably won't happen. And part of that is, well,

1032
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: I actually you give us the the how many Pack

1033
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: twelve teams are going to be eligible? And then I'll

1034
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: go into my uh spiel. So there is a scenario

1035
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: in which only five Pack twelve teams can make a bowl.

1036
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: It depends on Oregon and Utah finishing eleven. One which

1037
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: you would think to yourself, that's a good year for

1038
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve two teams in the College Football Playoff conversation.

1039
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: One that loses probably playing in the Rose Bowl a

1040
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: good year. But the conference is dependent on getting the

1041
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: money from as many teams appearing in bowls as possible,

1042
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: so you want to make sure that you at least

1043
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: qualify half of your conference. Five to me would be

1044
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: a disaster. Here's how you could end up with only

1045
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: five teams from the Pack twelve in a bowl game.

1046
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: And this again depends on Oregon in Utah both finishing

1047
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: eleven and one, which will probably happen. Step one, Stanford

1048
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: has to beat the problem and then loose to Notre Dame.

1049
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: Completely plausible scenario. Step two Cal also has to lose

1050
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: to u c l A. Step three, USC beats u

1051
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: c l A this week, Step four University of Arizona

1052
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: beats A s U and step five and this can

1053
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: happen either way that either Oregon State or Washington State

1054
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: is out. Now, Oregon State and Washington State play each other,

1055
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: and then they play the other team from their state,

1056
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: and so you probably assume you're gonna assume that Washington's

1057
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna win the Apple Cup because they always do. You're

1058
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna assume that Oregon is gonna win the Civil War,

1059
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: even though it's going to be much more difficult this

1060
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: year than it has been in previous years. So, assuming

1061
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: that Oregon State beats Washington State, or Washington State beats

1062
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: Oregon State and then goes on to lose the intrastate game,

1063
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: that's how you're left with only five bull teams. And

1064
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: those bull teams would be the winner of Oregon State,

1065
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: Washington State, and then Washington, USC, Utah, and Oregon. All

1066
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: those things are very possible, Like that's not beyond the

1067
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: realm of possibility. Jeez, that, Yeah, scary, isn't it to

1068
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: have a year with FI? Like? What what would Larry

1069
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: Scott say next PacTel media days? What the thing he

1070
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: would come up with, because he always finds a way

1071
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: to spend terrible stuff. When a bunch of coaches got

1072
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: fired a couple of years ago, he wasn't like, isn't

1073
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: it exciting to have all this new blood in the conference?

1074
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: When the pactwel went like one and eight in bowls,

1075
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: he said, it's better to have qualified for a bowl, dude,

1076
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: than it is to actually win it. Like, he says

1077
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: the craziest stuff. To know what he's going to say

1078
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: if Oregon or Utah makes the College Football Playoff, he's

1079
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: gonna ignore the rest. Yes, you're gonna have two New

1080
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: Year's six bowl games. You're gonna have the Rose Bowl,

1081
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have this the College Football Playoffs semifinals,

1082
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: and lord knows if they mess around and win a

1083
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: game too, Oh god, he's yes, we are back the cop. Well,

1084
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: how about the other seven teams that didn't qualify for

1085
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: bowl games? Oh man, we were in the college Football

1086
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: Playoff conversation. A lot of people said that we we

1087
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: would not be this, dude is I don't understand why

1088
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: people keep believing that some thing magical is gonna happen.

1089
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: His conscis gonna have Yeah, he's gonna use that giant

1090
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: salary of his to buy Gregory Hind's personal tap dancing shoes.

1091
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: If Utah beats Oregon in the in the Pac Twel

1092
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: Championship and then isn't awarded a spot in college football

1093
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: playoff and only five teams make a bowl, that that

1094
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: will have to be his masterpiece performance of tap dancing.

1095
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but you know he's he's a master.

1096
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: He will get it done. Okay. So here is and

1097
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: when you hear so many people say, oh the Pac

1098
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: Twels garbage packed toose garbage right, Okay, here is the problem.

1099
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: I always talk about this. The difference between playing eight

1100
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: conference games and playing nine conference games is this. So

1101
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: you have the SEC and the A c C and

1102
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: the Big Tent. I'll have fourteen teams, but only one

1103
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: of them plays nine conference games, which is the Big Tent.

1104
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: And that means that they play four and three non

1105
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: conference games, respectively. Most of these teams do not play

1106
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: ten Power five games. So and then when you look

1107
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: at conference, so you have three or four free wins,

1108
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: particularly if they play a lower tier like the teams

1109
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: who have Rutgers on their schedule in Maryland, you know

1110
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: bottom feeder teams. And here's how the total losses work

1111
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: out in conference. So you have the Pack twelve twelve

1112
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: teams nine games, there are fifty four losses that must

1113
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: be conference losses that must be spread out amongst twelve teams.

1114
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: That's an average number of four and a half losses

1115
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: per team. If you look at the A s C

1116
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: and the SEC, who have fourteen teams and play eight

1117
01:06:53,400 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: conference games, their total number of conference losses is only

1118
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: fifty six, whereas the PAC twelve has fifty four to

1119
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: spread amongst twelve teams. They have fifty six losses to

1120
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: spread out amongst fourteen teams. So that's less conference losses

1121
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: for everybody, because that's an average of four losses per team.

1122
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: So that extra half a game loss that the Big ten,

1123
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: Big twelve and Pack twelve have that seven more losses

1124
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: that SEC teams would would have. That means less teams

1125
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: qualified for ball games. You have more parody, and you

1126
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: don't have and you don't get the schedule roulette where

1127
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: you don't get Alabama hasn't played Georgia in like eight years,

1128
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: they don't play Florida, or you have Auburn who's got

1129
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: to play everybody, and E mean, it just creates such

1130
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: an imbalance. It's whereas in the like, you can't duck people.

1131
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: And it would be fine if they would just schedule

1132
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: well out of out of conference, but they won't do

1133
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: that either. So when people get talked about, well, if

1134
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve would just win more, it's not or

1135
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: the Big ten would just win more. The Big ten

1136
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: has fourteen teams, you have sixty three losses that they

1137
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: have to spread out, where the SEC and the a

1138
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: SEC have fifty six. I mean, it's it's just the

1139
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: math is so bad and people know this, but they

1140
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: will not pay attention to the facts. They won't let

1141
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: comm Let's let's have our own um foray into a

1142
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: lack of common sense and jump into the pack twelve

1143
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: power rankings. Um my, mine are as they have been

1144
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: every week. They're confusing mess. But I did move I

1145
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: did move the two in state teams um of which

1146
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: I cover down here in Arizona, to the very bottom.

1147
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like justifiably so. But i''ll start with mine, my, my,

1148
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: twelve through seven. I've got University of Arizona at the bottom,

1149
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State in the eleven spot, Colorado at ten, Washington

1150
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: State at nine, U c l A At eight, and

1151
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: Stanford somehow holding down the seven spot. I don't know how.

1152
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't have an explaination for you. Well, okay, I

1153
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: will give you that. Um So I have Arizona at twelve.

1154
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: I can't figure out what Kevin someone is doing. Teams

1155
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: headed in a bad direction. Stanford, Stanford is hurt. Stanford's bad,

1156
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: they don't have an identity. At eleven. Colorado some some

1157
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: kind of way, they don't look quite as bad because

1158
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: they won their last game against Stanford and they had

1159
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: an uh an off week, so you have an off week,

1160
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: nothing back and happened. Um Washington State at nine, disaster.

1161
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: They are two and five in the conference. Arizona State,

1162
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're at number eight because this

1163
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: team is in a complete free fall. But they beat

1164
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: Washington State, they lost to Colorado. I think, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1165
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: this isn't craziness. And then I have cow at seven.

1166
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: Who is who is? This is a schizophrenic team? They

1167
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: don't know, they don't know when they when they want

1168
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: to win, when they want to get blown out, they

1169
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. I mean, like the bottom seven teams

1170
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't even they're just in trouble. And then who's your

1171
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: six two teams at risk of not even going to

1172
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: a bowl at both six and five in Oregon State

1173
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: and Cal, which is wild to me. And then I

1174
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: got Washington at number four. Uh, USC, even though Washington

1175
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: beat USC, I just feel like US season a better

1176
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: place right now. Um Or I'm just intoxicated by their

1177
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: last win. Um. But I got USC at number three.

1178
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: You taught at number two Oregon and number one. I

1179
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: got U c l A at six because despite the

1180
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: Utah game, they had been trending in the right direction,

1181
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: and everybody that plays the Utah looks awful. Um Oregon

1182
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: State at number five, and I don't know how, I

1183
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: don't know how like that, there was never a time

1184
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: that I believe that Oregon State would be one of

1185
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: the five best teams in the Pact. Well, um oh,

1186
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: and then also and then that gets us to number four,

1187
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: to the actually Bowl eligible teams. USC at number four,

1188
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: they have been up and down. I do agree, they

1189
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 1: look really good right now, but they lost to the

1190
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: Washington Huskies too, and Washington is that number three. It's

1191
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: weird because Washington looks like a really good football team

1192
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: at times, like they they took Utah and and Oregon

1193
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: to the child wire. Yeah, but at the same time

1194
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: there there feels like that there is a is a

1195
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: is a a grand canyon of distance between Washington. Well,

1196
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 1: there feels like a grand canyon of distance between USC

1197
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: and everybody else at number you know, from from five

1198
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: to twelve. It feels like there's a grand canyon there.

1199
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: And then there feels like that there's a stratospheric difference

1200
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: between Washington at number three and Utah and Oregon. Yeah,

1201
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: this is Yeah, there's a big, huge difference. I mean,

1202
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: those teams don't even look like they're even in the

1203
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 1: same conference. Really. Um week Week thirteen, So USC's finally

1204
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: ad in the top twenty five the coaches pole. So

1205
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: that gives Oregon a top win. And in my college

1206
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: football rankings, as they should be, which I put out

1207
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: every week, I have Oregon at number four because I

1208
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: can't get over the Georgia lost to South Carolina. I mean,

1209
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: it's it's just awful. I mean they lost at home

1210
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: to a team with a losing record. Maybe it's just

1211
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: baffling um. And then I had Utah at number seven

1212
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: because I have Georgian Alabama squeezed in between them at

1213
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: five and six, and and I based those on dominance

1214
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: uh schedule played in quality wins, same as I do

1215
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: to pack to a power rankings. And now if if

1216
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: you're a you know, if you are a Utah or

1217
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: a Oregon fan wanting your team to get to get

1218
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: to college fohill playoff, seeing USC ranked number twenty three

1219
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: is a good thing and you have to hope that

1220
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: they destroy U C l A and cover and and

1221
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: cover this thirteen and a half points bread. And if

1222
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 1: you are a USC fan and you are done with

1223
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: Clay Hilton, this game means nothing to you at all. Nothing.

1224
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: If you are supporting the conference, you need USC to

1225
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: win this game to look better for Utah and to

1226
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: look better for the conference overall. But if you are

1227
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: a die hard fight on Trojan and you're ready for change,

1228
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: you might have to eat this bullet. And I think

1229
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: that I think and I think that Trojan fans are

1230
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: comfortable with that scenario, knowing that they're going to be

1231
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: in a bowl game regardless, knowing that it doesn't really

1232
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 1: mean anything at the end of the day, and that

1233
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: it will set them up for success later. And so

1234
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 1: I expect a big enough contingent of USC fans to

1235
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: at least you you know, and I know how big

1236
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: this rivalry is, but I think that there's a big

1237
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: enough contingent of USC fans that are willing to lose

1238
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: this game for the future good of the team. So

1239
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: I think that that's something that's really interesting to watch.

1240
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't love the spread. I think that U c

1241
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: l A finds a way to to to cover this

1242
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: um and to make this game messy. This is a

1243
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: really really important game for U c l A, I think,

1244
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: more so than USC, outside of anyone but the players

1245
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff and so um. I don't know.

1246
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: I I do like I do like USC to win

1247
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: um talent over talent uh and and as revenge for

1248
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: for next year. And I think the players are rallying

1249
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: behind Clay Helton a little bit. But it's just an

1250
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic to have where everybody is sort of on

1251
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: the fence as a USC fan about what they want

1252
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: to happen in this game. I don't see USC fans

1253
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: could stomach a loss, but they can't stomach a loss

1254
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: to u c l A just to get Clay Helton fired.

1255
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: I think that they would rather just win by a

1256
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: field goal and hopefully because I don't know, if you

1257
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: can have an ugly embarrassing win that and beat U

1258
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: c l A. At the end of the day, you

1259
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: won the game. And it's a huge rivalry game, so

1260
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: some to so sometimes the score is not always indicative

1261
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: of what's going on. But I know that you c

1262
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: l A cannot let USC. I mean that USC can't

1263
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: let U c l A get going in the beginning

1264
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 1: of the game, because if they do, the biggest momentum

1265
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: writers in the conference can stay in the game. But

1266
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you jump on them early the

1267
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: same way that they jumped on Arizona State, they'll they'll

1268
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: win by forty points. They'll win by fifty points. Maybe

1269
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: like this would be a This game will look just

1270
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: like the the um the Utah U c l A

1271
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: game where it was forty nine and three, except it

1272
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: might even be worse than that. So this game is

1273
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: all about the first quarter. Whoever wins the first quarter

1274
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: will win the game. I'm telling you that right now,

1275
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: whoever starts out fast is going to win the game

1276
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: because Keith and Slovis, if he starts starts out slow,

1277
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: they're able to shut down the white out a little bit.

1278
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: And you said a gets a couple of big plays touchdowns, Dude,

1279
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: this game is gonna be an absolute dog fight. And

1280
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: and Clay Helton will be fired immediately after the game

1281
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: and say loses, there's no chance he comes back from

1282
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: losing this game. Um, oh, but you, but you may

1283
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: have Joshua Kelly usc uh, you sail a running back.

1284
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: He may be able to go for go over a

1285
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: hundred thousand yards on the season in the In this game,

1286
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: he's second in the conference. He's averaging a hunter and

1287
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: in yards a game. Uh. Ironically, the conference doesn't even

1288
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: have a thousand yard rusher yet, Zack Moss is still

1289
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: sitting at nine. You only have two receivers at a

1290
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: thousand yards as Isaiah Hodges and Michael Pittman. This hasn't

1291
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: been a particularly great statistical year, especially with like six

1292
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: running backs returning that had over a thousand yards. But

1293
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,879
Speaker 1: don't worry with about seven more games. You know, Benjamin

1294
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: will get there at an average of you know, four

1295
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: carries a game. Well it no bit, Benjamin is is

1296
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 1: sitting at eight on one, so he really only needs

1297
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: one big game, and that Arizona game probably looks looks

1298
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 1: like a two hundred yard possible performance if they actually

1299
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: hand him the football. Um, you got Cal and Stanford.

1300
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: This game is critical, critical for Cal and for Stanford

1301
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: because Stanford wants any hope to make a bowl game,

1302
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: because it's gonna take a miracle for them to beat

1303
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: Notre Dame next week. But if they want to make

1304
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: a bowl game, this is the game. You gotta get

1305
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: this one. And Cal is coming off getting absolutely trashed, clubbed,

1306
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 1: beat up by against USC like they're gonna be fighting mad.

1307
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: And this game is played at Stanford, which is not

1308
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: necessarily a huge home field advantage, but this is their

1309
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: rivalry game. You're gonna see the Stanford band, You're gonna

1310
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: see all this, you know, uh, come coming on the field,

1311
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna see all of that this week on all

1312
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: the highlight packages. Stanford's favored by three over under in

1313
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: this game forty one and a half. Who you got, Ralph,

1314
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. Well, I've got the over because um,

1315
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: Stanford doesn't play a whole lot. I that Cow will

1316
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: find a way to score in this game. But I

1317
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: think that stylistically, and tell me if you disagree with this,

1318
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: George Stylistically, this is the first time that Stanfords had

1319
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: an advantage um in a few weeks. We'll put it

1320
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: that way that this kind of lines up with exactly

1321
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: the type of game that Stanford likes. I don't know

1322
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: how Stanford likes to play anymore. They ran the ball

1323
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: ten times last game through it fifty so I don't

1324
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: know who this team is anywhere. Do you think that

1325
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: Davis Mills can move the ball on Cow? Are we

1326
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: I mean, are we intoxicated by the old Keaton slogus thing?

1327
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: Or or will everything regress back to the mean KEITHA

1328
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: Slogans is throwing to Michael Pittman, St Brown, m Ra

1329
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: st Brown and Tyler vons Uh Stanford Stanford is throwing

1330
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: too and st. Brown eight well ace at st. Brown

1331
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily either one of the other brothers, the one

1332
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: who's in the NFL, and or a mom ros st Brown.

1333
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: He's throwing through a freshman. They He's also throwing to

1334
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, Connor Weddington, and Cody Parkinson, who we've completely

1335
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: forgot about because he only has one touchdown this season.

1336
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so uh no, No, I think it regresses

1337
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: back to the mean because the weapons aren't the same

1338
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: and if Cal uh and if Cal can't rebound and

1339
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: play well against this set of wide receivers, something is

1340
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 1: broken in Cow in their defense, whether it's their confidence

1341
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. Because they have a chance to make a

1342
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: bowl game. They have a legit shot to finish seven

1343
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: and five because they can be Stafford. They can beat

1344
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: U C. L A and finish seven and five. It's

1345
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: entirely possible. So I don't I just I'm going with

1346
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: Cal in this game. They bounced back from the last

1347
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: time that they that they got absolutely trashed, So I'm

1348
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: going with them. Yeah, I'm going with them. And but uh,

1349
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the over as well because Stanford's

1350
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: defense is beat up and as bad as their defense is,

1351
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: I just, oh, I don't know, Cow, Cow might hold them.

1352
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: This could be like a seventeen game. Actually, I'm taking

1353
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm a crazy man. I'm gonna take the under in

1354
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: this game. Roule the hunter. Okay, well, then I'll do

1355
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. You'll be on the other side on

1356
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: both of these. Um, you forgot to mention my guys,

1357
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: seeming to say how who has is coming into his

1358
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: own He only has fifth team catches this year. He's

1359
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: averaging thirty yards of catch and six of them have

1360
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: been for touchdowns. I think if anybody's gonna get past

1361
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: this cow secondary, it's gonna be him. Um. I'm looking

1362
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 1: at maybe a twenty four to twenty game, and I

1363
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: think that Stanford comes out on top. I just think

1364
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 1: that that was the backbreaker for I think that you

1365
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: saw this defense have to carry um, this Cal team

1366
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: all year long, and I think the bottom finally fell

1367
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: out and and the wait for them was was too much.

1368
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: It was it was a valiant effort by them. But

1369
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: I think that this game is going to be a

1370
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: little bit ugly, and Ugly is where Stanford lives, and

1371
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: and Cal was just trying to move through ugly on

1372
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: to someone else. They weren't planning to They were planning

1373
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: to live into the town. And I think that I

1374
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: think that this this gives stand a little bit of

1375
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: an advantage. Again, I've been wrong of the ten times

1376
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 1: of picking Stanford, so this is probably really good for you, George.

1377
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 1: But I'll take Stanford and the old there. Um we

1378
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't say who are you taking? U c

1379
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: l A U S C Oh, I'm definitely definitely taking USC.

1380
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: I do not do not like the minus four team.

1381
01:23:51,680 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: Oh all right, and that under under for sure? Oh yeah, crazy.

1382
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: This game absolutely crushes the the over. USC wins this game.

1383
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm picking USC because it's I think that U c

1384
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: l A may shock the world, but for the good

1385
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: of everyone in the conference, for the good of Stanford,

1386
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean for the good of Utah and the good

1387
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: of Oregon, USC must win this game, and this would

1388
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: be such a disappointment if they lost. Um. Next game up,

1389
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: you got Oregon versus Arizona State in Tempe, Oregon's favorite

1390
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: by fourteen and a half points over under fifty three

1391
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: and a half. Um, so I'm gonna go to the

1392
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: games game, um, but I'm only gonna stay for I

1393
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: think kickoff. And then the State of Arizona decided to

1394
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: uh take the best eight teams in the state in

1395
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: high school playoffs and have them based each other since

1396
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: they got sick of the same teams winning the state

1397
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: championships every single year they took the top eight teams.

1398
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 1: They're making them play each other. They're making them do

1399
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: it on a Saturday, and so we finally have high

1400
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: school football doing what the Pac twelve does to uh

1401
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: to it and encroaching on college football on their day.

1402
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna spend the day watching some

1403
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: Pac twelve football. I'm gonna stay out there for kickoff,

1404
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: go say what's up to my guys, Johnny Johnson and

1405
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck and everybody from the from the state of

1406
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Arizona up there. Thomas Graham, who who who lived out

1407
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: here till he until he moved to California aids like

1408
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: nine or ten. I'm gonna go say what's up to

1409
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: those guys and then uh and then go catch some

1410
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: high school football games, record this game and watch it after.

1411
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: I do not expect to see anything pretty because to me,

1412
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: as good as Justin Herbert is and as good as

1413
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 1: Oregon's defensive backfield is the strength of this team is

1414
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: their offensive and defensive line. That's what's made everything go

1415
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 1: for Oregon this year. It just so happens that Arizona

1416
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: State has something good going on everywhere but those two units.

1417
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: So this to me is a horrible matchup for a

1418
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 1: s U. Horrible. And this was probably this was probably

1419
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: the most exciting game that I covered, uh last year

1420
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: up at Awesome. This This was an awesome game. These

1421
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: were two teams that were still trying to find themselves,

1422
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, talent versus talent um. Both teams were really

1423
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: mature on both sides of the ball um except for

1424
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: except for defense, they're both kind of young. But like,

1425
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: this was a whole lot of fun. I don't expect

1426
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: this game to be very fun because a s U

1427
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: has given up a lot of points in the first

1428
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: quarter and first half of the last five or six games,

1429
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 1: and Oregon likes to go out and start hot. So

1430
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: except for against usc UM, this could be This could

1431
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: be bad. This could be a five to thirty point

1432
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: Oregon win. Um. I would be disappointed as an Oregon

1433
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: fan if they don't go out there and score style

1434
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: points against As you and I know, the matchup isn't

1435
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: you know. I know that a SU brings a lot

1436
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: to the table talent wise, but it's a wounded animal

1437
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: right now, and you have to go out there and

1438
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: prove that you're the dominant team. There are people down

1439
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: here who think that this is prime for an upset.

1440
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Do not count me among them. I think this is

1441
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 1: a horrible matchup at a horrible time. Had this been

1442
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: the first game of conference play, then you know, completely

1443
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: different story. But right now, um, no, no, I don't

1444
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 1: like a sc at all in this game. Whatever the

1445
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: spread is, whatever it is, I'll take it. I'll tell

1446
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: they'll take Oregon. Absolutely agree with you, Ralph. There there's

1447
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: no way Arizona State was this game. I mean even

1448
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert got got hurt and Tyler Shug had

1449
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: to come in, they would still win the game. This

1450
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 1: is a yeah, this is a pit bull fighting in Chihuahua.

1451
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: I mean, Arizona State, as as talented as they are

1452
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: at some position, is they are mentally out of it.

1453
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: They are, and they just don't they don't have the confidence,

1454
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: and they don't have the defensive an offensive line to

1455
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: withstand all the body blows Oregon. Just the body blow,

1456
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: your body blow, your body blow, you into it, and

1457
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: then and then come up top. They faint, and then

1458
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: come up top and then your out cold, and then

1459
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, damn, how do we

1460
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: get down twenty eight points? It felt closer than this. Yeah,

1461
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: this is gonna be bad. Um. Oregon State Washington State.

1462
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: The fight for bowl. Yeah, the the fight for the

1463
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: bowl game because they're both five and five. If Oregon

1464
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: State doesn't win this game, they're not going to a

1465
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: bowl game because they're not gonna beat Oregon Washington State.

1466
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 1: If they don't beat Oregon State, they're supposed to come

1467
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: back next week and beat Washington Probably not so much.

1468
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: So it seems like the winner of this game goes

1469
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: to a bowl game because they'll have six victories and

1470
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: the loser see you see you next season, unless it's

1471
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 1: Washington State because Mike Leaks might be coaching in Arkansas

1472
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 1: next year. I feel like this is a head versus

1473
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: heart game. My head says Washington State should win, My

1474
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: heart says Oregon State in a bowl would be fantastic, right, Oh,

1475
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: you're such a participation. No, no, no, no no. I

1476
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: just have a long standing dream of Oregon State and

1477
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: South Carolina being eligible for a bowl in the same

1478
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: season so that we can get a Cox RSUs Beaver's Bowl.

1479
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: That's it. It's not a it's not a participation turphy thing.

1480
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 1: I just I just really want to buy the most

1481
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: offensive yet innocent bull merchandise ever made in the history

1482
01:29:54,840 --> 01:30:00,759
Speaker 1: of college football. That's it. Uhh, that's great. That is great.

1483
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: I can root for that too, but I don't. I

1484
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 1: don't think the entertained makes a bowl. I have to

1485
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: go with my head in this one. Um, and I

1486
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: think that I think my Gleach gets it done. I

1487
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: think Oregon State's a fantastic story, but I think the

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01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 1: only way they get to a bowl this year is

1489
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: if they pull a seventeen and shocked the world. Um

1490
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: and uh. But but I also don't think that will

1491
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: happen because it's not like Willie Taggert's running that Oregon team. So,

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01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm gonna go with Washington State and this

1493
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: what's the line on this game? Eleven and a half

1494
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: and over under of seventy So I'm gonna go with Uh,

1495
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Washington State and the under dude,

1496
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: give me Washington State and give me the over. This

1497
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: game is going, I mean, seventy five outrageous. But Oregon

1498
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: State can't stop anybody. They can't stop anybody except from

1499
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: why that's the only team that they've actually held in

1500
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: check and and oh my lord, and and Washington State

1501
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 1: can't stop anybody either. Dude. This game will probably rival

1502
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: the damn score of the U c l A Washington

1503
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: State game. I'm predicting near a hundred points. This is

1504
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: a sucker bet on on the under. But I am

1505
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: also taking Washington State and it's eleven and a half

1506
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: points too. Um, I we got Washington in Arizona, Dude,

1507
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: after seeing what Oregon did to Arizona, this is horrible

1508
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: for Arizona. Back to back games. You toss favored by

1509
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 1: twenty three points that that's kind of weird because well,

1510
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: I I guess they are playing. Arizona's playing at home

1511
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: because Oregon was favored by twenty seven and a half

1512
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: points and covered. But now Utah is only favored by

1513
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: twenty three points and over under fifty eight and a half.

1514
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Who you got in this game? Round? Um? I mean

1515
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: Utah is gonna win. You never know. Utah's nasty. They're

1516
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: they're they're at what they did to what they did

1517
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: to U c l A. Um, they've got that killer instinct.

1518
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: I think they have it in their sights, Um, Arizona

1519
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: is good for one crazy win a year. I don't

1520
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come this week, but they really and

1521
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: and part of it, I think is because they don't

1522
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: actually know who's leading them, um, and I think that

1523
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: that's going to keep them from winning both this weeknd

1524
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: next week. To be honest, Ah, but I will say

1525
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: that twenty three is about on the nose for me.

1526
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: I could see this being uh, I could see, I

1527
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 1: could see, I don't see. Oh God, I'm stuttering, But

1528
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't see Arizona being shut out offensively a few

1529
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. They're gonna find some way to score.

1530
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: I believe that, and so I think, Umen, what is

1531
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: that twenty four points? Utah does find a way to

1532
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: cover in this game, But I don't think it's gonna

1533
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: be like U C l A. I don't think they're

1534
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: gonna hold them without a touchdown. You're you're you must

1535
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,919
Speaker 1: be on some pay medication for it, am. But because

1536
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: or because the Oregon killed them without held the Arizona

1537
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: without a touchdown, Utah is mad they're not getting the

1538
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: proper respect that they feel like they deserve. They are

1539
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: going to try to drown Arizona. They are going to

1540
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: try to just demolish them, get all the style points

1541
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: possible the way they where. There are people that can say, oh,

1542
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: they maybe could beat Alabama with Mac Jones at quarterback.

1543
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: Is deaded to it. That's what they're gonna try to do. Utah,

1544
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: it's a different team, a different team on the road.

1545
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: They're still very good, but they're not Salt Lake. Utah

1546
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: is a different animal. Yeah, but Arizona, this is the

1547
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: same Arizona team, the same Arizona team that's giving up

1548
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: thirty seven points a game, Ralph thirty seven and they

1549
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: would have given up thirty eight in the Oregon game

1550
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: if the Oregon kicker could make an extra point or

1551
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: field goal. You know, if you took I bet if

1552
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: you if you did a two team parlay this week,

1553
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: and I know that like the likelihood of this happening

1554
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 1: is very very small, but if you did a two

1555
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: team parlay, just the money line just to win with

1556
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Arizona and U C. L A and they both they

1557
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: both won. I bet if you put a hundred bucks

1558
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 1: down you could turn that into like two thousand. Damn,

1559
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: you feel like wasting d dollars? You tell them I saying, well,

1560
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking Utah and the under I said, I

1561
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: say the under hits so fifty eight and a half

1562
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: and you talk covers, so that means Arizona won't be

1563
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: putting up pretty much any points. Um. Last game Washington

1564
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: in Colorado, Washington's favor by fourteen and a half over

1565
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: under fifty four and a half. Who you got in

1566
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 1: this game? Roph, I mean it's it's in Boulder, right,

1567
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: Crazier things have happened. Um, I'm sure you would enjoy

1568
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: that if if Washington. Because this game doesn't matter all

1569
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: that much. Washington still Bowl eligible, Colorado still gotta worry

1570
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: about beating Utah to get there. Um, this game could

1571
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: keep them alive and there. And Colorado plays really really

1572
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: well at home, at least comparatively. They did lose to

1573
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: air Force. UM, but I don't. I don't like this.

1574
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: I do like Colorado to cover. The fourteen and a

1575
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: half to me is too much. UM. I don't know

1576
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: really where Washington's head is at, and I don't know

1577
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: if they'll be able to handle Um, I don't know

1578
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: if they'll be able to handle Stephen Montez on the

1579
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: on the road. You never you just never know what

1580
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Montes you're getting. You never know. But I think

1581
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: at home, I'm in a bed on good Montes showing

1582
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: up and I say that, I say that this game

1583
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: is way too close for comfort. And Washington comes out

1584
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: um winning by maybe a field goal? Are you serious? Yeah?

1585
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: So colra Okay, here, here's what I know. Colorado's past

1586
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 1: defense giving up second worst than the conference three eight

1587
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: yards a game. They are playing against Washington, whose past

1588
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: offense is throwing for two hundred and forty nine yards

1589
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: a game. So if you're Washington, are you gonna come

1590
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 1: out and try to run the ball in this football game?

1591
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 1: Which is a big deal because Colorado rushing offense. They

1592
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: are thin on the offensive line. I'm sorry on the

1593
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: defensive line. I come out if I'm them, and I'm

1594
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: throwing the ball as many times as possible because their

1595
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: secondaries terrible. And then a mad is gonna break a

1596
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: couple of long ones because then they're gonna have to

1597
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: play coverage, put two safeties over the top, and then

1598
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: this game is gonna get out of hand. But judging

1599
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 1: from that Oregon State game, I don't see a scenario

1600
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: like I'm torn because Oregon State was able to hold

1601
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: them the nineteen points, and their defense sucks too, So

1602
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm coming around to you, Ralph, where

1603
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: I got Washington winning, just not by fourteen and a half.

1604
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: I think they went by fourteen points and they don't cover,

1605
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: and that would put the score at that's fifty four

1606
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: for the over under, so that's forty points. That means

1607
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: the score would be thirty four to twenty under those circumstances,

1608
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if bad steven Montees can get twenty.

1609
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm actually taking well do you think we're getting so

1610
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: you think we're getting bad? Why? Why this defense is

1611
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: actually pretty good? I mean when you look at the

1612
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: games that they've lost. They lost the Cow they only

1613
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: gave up twenty points, even though that's below Cow's average

1614
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: on the season. They lost the Stanford inexplicably but only

1615
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: gave up twenty three points, lost the Oregon, and lost

1616
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 1: to you you talk, which obviously they give up thirty

1617
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 1: five and thirty three were respectively. But aside from that one,

1618
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: they've been giving up fourteen twenty nineteen fourteen. You know,

1619
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: I gave up oh, they did give up twenties seven

1620
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona. I will say this, I win either way

1621
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: because if we get good Montes, I was right. And

1622
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: if we get bad Montes, that means that Jacob ees

1623
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: and probably looked better than Montes, which means that you

1624
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: can't hold the whole. Jacobis is a good thing over

1625
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: my head. So either way, I'm covered. I had my

1626
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: best here. Okay, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go

1627
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 1: with the line of making Ralph Ralph wrong. So I'm

1628
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: gonna take Washington State to win, but Colorado to uh

1629
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: but Colorado to cover the no. Um, yeah, no, I'm not. Yes,

1630
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: Colorado is gonna cover the fourteen and a happen and

1631
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: lose because they're gonna lose by fourteen and the over

1632
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: under I'm going I'm I'm taking that over here because

1633
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: betting betting under, even though I've done it twice, this

1634
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: game is for suckers. I'm with you, Colorado covers take

1635
01:39:54,520 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 1: the over thirty seven Washington. All right, well you guys,

1636
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening to the Pack twelve Apostles podcast.

1637
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,360
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01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,920
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1639
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,760
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1640
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 1: we will catch you guys next week. I hope you

1641
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed the episode with the Pack twelve quarterbacks, quarterback

1642
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 1: breaking rankings. Peace out, Catch you guys later,