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Speaker 4: Knox in for Colin. You can listen to this show

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Speaker 4: Here on FSR. So we opened up the show talking

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Speaker 4: about the feel good moment in Los Angeles with Clayton

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Speaker 4: Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand and then the reality of

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Speaker 4: waking up and realizing you're also probably a Laker fan,

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Speaker 4: which sucks, but again, you know is what it is

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Speaker 4: that being said, we now turn over to somebody else

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Speaker 4: in the world of football who knows a thing or

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Speaker 4: two about dysfunction. That would be none other than Nebraska

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Speaker 4: head coach Matt Ruhle, your former teammate at Penn State.

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Speaker 4: Lebar you guys are really men. Yeah, you guys are

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Speaker 4: real nice to him. In practice, I'm sure we had

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Speaker 4: a good time with Matt. Matt was a special teams guy.

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Speaker 4: He was a special situations person. Yeah, it's super, super

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Speaker 4: intelligent football player. Again, I credit him with a lot

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Speaker 4: of things that I learned as a freshman. How you know,

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Speaker 4: I knew how to study film to a certain degree.

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Speaker 4: I knew how to take notes to a certain agree.

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Speaker 4: In high school, I had a pretty good, good program

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Speaker 4: I realized very quickly how much of the educational part

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Speaker 5: Being able to know what to look for, you know,

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Speaker 5: being able to break down what it is that that

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Speaker 5: that to you and your information in your notes. Matt,

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Speaker 5: Matt Ruhle did an excellent job of sitting with me

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Speaker 5: and us learning that. You know, my freshman year there

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Speaker 5: translated into him being a really, really fine football coach

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Speaker 5: as well through through the years.

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Speaker 4: So he was talking with Greg McElroy on the Always

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Speaker 4: College Football podcast and he says that the experience in

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Speaker 6: Like, I think the biggest certain thing you learn when

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Speaker 6: like the four and collegeables like, yeah, he's are the

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Speaker 6: player's offer was taken. You get the NFL, it's all

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Speaker 6: they're all good players, you know, it's just a what's

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Speaker 5: And you're in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: You good free agency and you see teams walking away

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Speaker 4: So that was Matt Ruhle talking about the contractual similarities

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Speaker 4: it's now not just your typical well do you want

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Speaker 4: Maybe it makes those conversations and how he evaluates players

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Speaker 5: transfer portal is what really to me makes it very interesting.

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Speaker 5: We just had the conversation too long ago, not too

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Speaker 5: basically who your rights belonged to. Now, yes, you do

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Speaker 5: don't understand most likely you know, salary caps and free

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Speaker 5: agency and how that all works. But there's still a

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Speaker 5: What's a do, what's a don't?

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Speaker 3: You know? What's breaking the rule, what isn't?

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Speaker 5: There is a lot of gray area that still exists

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Speaker 5: You know, you're talking about twenty million dollars I believe

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Speaker 5: Rule is probably talking about, outside of just evaluation, having

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Speaker 3: He runs its teams.

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Speaker 4: And I would also say, based on his time in

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Speaker 4: And Matt Rule even said before the season, before he

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Speaker 4: if Matt Ruhle goes back to college with a better

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Speaker 4: understanding of the salary cap, the structure, but also a

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Speaker 4: better understanding of whatever I do. I don't want it

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what's interesting point to that is is

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Speaker 5: that when it's the pros, people have no problem doing

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you've never really heard like, oh, the dysfunction of

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Speaker 4: It's a it's almost like now that money's involved, Oh, oh,

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Speaker 4: You could play that this is an academic institution game.

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Speaker 4: All you want, you're gonna find your academy, make institution

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Speaker 3: For a job.

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Speaker 5: You gotta figure it out, because that is that has

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Speaker 5: you know, it's always been really easy to minimize. Even

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Speaker 5: like when I played for Joe Paterno, Joe minimized athletics,

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Speaker 5: He minimized athletes because it was more about being a student.

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Speaker 3: It was more about education. It's like, who cares we

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Speaker 3: But they got class on Monday.

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Speaker 5: They got to turn in their their their papers.

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Speaker 3: They gotta get good grades. Like it was always about

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Speaker 5: But but here's my point. The point is is that

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Speaker 3: You can't have behind it. You certainly have to have it.

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Speaker 5: The prestige of going to a fine college and the

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Speaker 5: You can't minimize it now because it is now being

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Speaker 5: College. There's a lot there. There's a lot. There is

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Speaker 4: It is very interesting seeing the light of day, seeing

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Speaker 4: I just don't know if that's the kind of food

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Speaker 3: I'm just skeptical.

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know how this does anything different

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Speaker 5: I think it does if the leadership quality is there

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Speaker 5: I don't feel as though a can't get right because

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Speaker 5: those are can't get right actions. If you feel as

439
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: though coming into the scenario you have a good hold

440
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 5: of understanding through your conversations with Aiden that those are

441
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Speaker 5: things you can manage. I honestly believe as a player,

442
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 5: when DeAndre Aiden is playing the game, he can be

443
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: one of the more elite bigs in the game. And

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Speaker 5: if you were to ask anybody who knows basketball and

445
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Speaker 5: has paid attention to the Lakers, they've needed a big man.

446
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: They needed a legitimate big man. And as we continue

447
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Speaker 5: down this road of preparing for post Lebron James era

448
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Speaker 5: in LA, I think this is a good move. Now,

449
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Speaker 5: let me add this to it, because I got this

450
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Speaker 5: from my guy Cuffs, the legend by the way some

451
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Speaker 5: dudes show put up Cuffs.

452
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Speaker 3: He comes along with us on Saturdays when we do

453
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Speaker 3: up on games.

454
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Speaker 5: And he did call Andre Aiden going to the Lakers,

455
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Speaker 5: by the way before it happened in previous shows. And

456
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Speaker 5: this is the latest that he's come up with. And

457
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Speaker 5: I think that this is pretty spot on and on

458
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Speaker 5: par for what could possibly take place with everybody getting

459
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 5: what they want. I think the Lakers want to move

460
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: on from Lebron James. I think Lebron James is okay

461
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 5: with moving on from the Lakers if it serves his purpose.

462
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 5: Which is one he's trying to get another championship, or

463
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Speaker 5: two to try to catch up with MJ and Kobe,

464
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Speaker 5: and three to make sure that his son's career isn't

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Speaker 5: cut short. What would be the best solution to that, Well,

466
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Speaker 5: let's talk about it. If you put all of the

467
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 5: elements together and you say, okay, what makes this work

468
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: for Lebron James in this scenario, it would be most

469
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Speaker 5: likely to go to an organization that's still would approve

470
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: of having him, would embrace having him, would support having him,

471
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: which would lead to possibly him being able to package

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Speaker 5: that up with bringing his son with him. There's the

473
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Speaker 5: possibility of that unless within the buyout or the leaving

474
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: of LA they would make sure they take care of

475
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Speaker 5: Brownie James in the event that he were to leave here.

476
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: Those two elements, right, But it would also be for

477
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Speaker 5: him to go to a place where he a has

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Speaker 5: a chance to win in the championship, be be with

479
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: somebody that he's familiar with. If the New York Knicks

480
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 5: hire Brown, right, if they hire Mike Brown. There is

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Speaker 5: a relationship of respect and admiration between Lebron James and

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Speaker 5: Mike Brown. They have history together, They go back to

483
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Speaker 5: when Lebron James first time in Cleveland he was with them,

484
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Speaker 5: they had a ton of great success. Mike Brown is

485
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Speaker 5: a very well respected coach. If he were indeed and

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Speaker 5: in fact the coach that ended up being named the

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Speaker 5: head coach of the New York Knickerbockers, is there a

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Speaker 5: possibility as close as that New York Knicks team is

489
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Speaker 5: to competing for an NBA title? Would that be the

490
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Speaker 5: move Mike Brown falls into place boom first domino falls down?

491
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Speaker 5: Is Lebron James the next domino in that? In that

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00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: series of dominoes to fall? Does he end up in

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Speaker 5: New York? Great market? He goes from one major media

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Speaker 5: market to the other major the two bohemos, he goes

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Speaker 5: to the other one. And we know that Lebron James

496
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Speaker 5: has made a career of going to organizations that are

497
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Speaker 5: close to winning championships or I have already won one.

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Speaker 5: This Knicks team is close to a championship. It would

499
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Speaker 5: be a familiar person in Brown. He would be able

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Speaker 5: to integrate and get in there in an easy manner,

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00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: a less stressful manner, and make a difference team that

502
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: was probably a Lebron James away from being able to

503
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Speaker 5: make it at least to the championship round, Well, it

504
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: gets him closer for sure, because the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 3: Is wide open. Well, there you go.

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Speaker 4: It's wide open because of all the injuries. And look,

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Speaker 4: I've said it before on Fox Sports Radio. I believe

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Speaker 4: Cleveland's in an advantageous spot because for a team that's

509
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Speaker 4: running to injury bad luck the past couple of years,

510
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: everybody else ran into it this year and maybe Cleveland

511
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: just by default becomes the healthiest team. And if Mike

512
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Speaker 4: Brown does you know his finalize and that's the reports

513
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: we're hearing that he's going to be the coach of

514
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Speaker 4: the Knicks. Yeah, if you're Lebron, and this is all

515
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 4: about you getting to another NBA finals, to have another shot,

516
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: the easier path of the East by far, because in

517
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Speaker 4: the Western Conference it ain't happening right now.

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Speaker 3: Now, doesn't that bring you back to the conversation. It

519
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: was just out there.

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Speaker 5: Everybody was throwing this out there, ring chasing, ring chasing culture,

521
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: ring chasing culture, as if Lebron James was the creator

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Speaker 5: of ring chasing co He's not, by the way, I

523
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: don't think people should try to downgrade him that way,

524
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: but ring chasing culture. If Lebron James were to leave

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Speaker 5: and to go to a team like the New York Knicks',

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Speaker 5: that does this now begin to be the idea of

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Speaker 5: You couldn't get it done in Cleveland, so you had

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Speaker 5: to go to Miami.

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Speaker 3: You eventually got it done in Miami, and then you go.

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Speaker 5: Back and then you get it in Cleveland. Then you

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Speaker 5: can't get it done in Cleveland anymore. So now you

532
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Speaker 5: go and build a super team and you are able

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Speaker 5: to get a bubble. A bubble championship in La La

534
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: seems to have run its course. Now if you go

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Speaker 5: to New York looking at what they got in Bruntson,

536
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 5: looking at what they got in if they're going to

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Speaker 5: keep Towns, which you would assume that they're going to

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Speaker 5: keep Karl Anthony Towns, you go join a team that

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Speaker 5: actually is set and built to make a run for

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Speaker 5: the championship. What does this do to Lebron james legacy,

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Speaker 5: Because in all due respect, Lebron James has had to

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00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: go chase the rings elsewhere. It has never been bring

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Speaker 5: the rings to him. And when you look at Kobe,

544
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: they brought the rings to Kobe. When you look at MJ.

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00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: They brought the rings to MJ. They didn't go somewhere

546
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: else to go get it done with somebody else's main players,

547
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: and you integrated and maybe became the main player. They

548
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: didn't do that with Steph Curry, didn't do that. The

549
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: rings have come to where they are. Lebron James is

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00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: widely considered arguably the greatest basketball player of all time,

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Speaker 5: and yet may be the maybe the only one in

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Speaker 5: the category of having to go chase the rings elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: First, I think it's pretty disrespectful to list off the

554
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Speaker 4: accomplishments of Lebron James and not include in season title.

555
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: Oh that's my bet, that's rude, my bet, my bet,

556
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: and enter that champions of the end season tournament.

557
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: Now, I've heard from people that the ring he got

558
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: in the bubble wasn't actually a ring, It was a

559
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: gold COVID mask. Again, I don't know, and I'm not

560
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: trying to spend negative Yeah, I'm not trying to spread

561
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: any sort of negativity out there, but I just think

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00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: he is what he is at this point, and what if.

563
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Speaker 4: I don't think that there's anything that he could do

564
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: to either jump above Jordan or move off anybody else's list,

565
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: like you feel about Lebron, how you feel about him,

566
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: and if this is all about I want to go

567
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: chase another championship, It's going to come down to him

568
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: looking at the landscape of the Western Conference and trying

569
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Speaker 4: to figure out is that the best way to do it?

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Speaker 4: Me personally, I don't think it is. I think there's

571
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: way too many obstacles in the way and way too

572
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: many better teams. I think if he's going to do it,

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00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 4: it's going to be out East. I just don't know,

574
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: depending on what they're going to ask in return. If

575
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: the Knicks look at that and go, is it really

576
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: worth one year potentially of Lebron and everything that comes

577
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: along with He took his option, He took his option,

578
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: and he's getting older. What exactly are you going to

579
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: ask for and trying to get a hold of Lebron James?

580
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: And if that value is.

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00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: So high that it is a scoff at it and

582
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: turn and walk away from it, then why are you

583
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 5: getting rid of them? If his value to you is

584
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: still that high, why are you getting rid of him?

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00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: Look, I think if you're the Lakers and you're planning

586
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: on moving on with him, moving on from him after

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00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: a year.

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00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: Just do it now?

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Speaker 2: Do it now?

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00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I make it, make it doable. I'm with you.

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 5: Don't don't try. Don't try to rob the whole hen house.

592
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 5: If you know your intentions are to get him out

593
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 5: of there, if you want to get him out, then

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00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: make it a doable situation.

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Speaker 3: Make it a doable deal. And for what it's worth,

596
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: if you felt like you got dupe by bringing in.

597
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: His child, you could get a two for one er Yo, daddy, Yo,

598
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: daddy did this. Now you got to go right along

599
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 5: with him? What's about a way? How do you handle that? Like,

600
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 5: if Bronnie James has to go because his daddy left,

601
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: how will the media handle that? That's a whole other

602
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 5: conversation in itself.

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: God, what do you You will find out a lot

604
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: about lebron James's reputation in town if they traded him

605
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: and then immediately after trading him they made Bronnie the

606
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: custodian like that would be you'd find a hell of

607
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: a lot about wasn't looking for that plot twist, but

608
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: that was the hell of a twist. And all of

609
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 4: a sudden they're like, hey, here's a mop and a bucket.

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Speaker 5: He could say he's an employee of the LA Lakers.

611
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean all the perks if he gets

612
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 5: to sit on the bench. But he's cleaning toilets and

613
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: cleaning floors during the week, making sure there's no dust

614
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 5: on the floor for practice, He's still considered to be

615
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: an employee of the LA Lakers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing is a bit bizarre, but nonetheless

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Speaker 4: it is the Herd. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar

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Speaker 4: Arrington Jonas knox In for Colin, as we take you

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Speaker 4: all the way up until three o'clock Eastern time, noon Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Up next here on the Herd.

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Speaker 4: Though, there's one team in the NFL that feels great

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Speaker 4: about everything going into next year, but maybe they shouldn't

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Speaker 4: find out why right here on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noone eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: It's a Herd Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas knox

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Speaker 4: In for Colin. Now you normally hear LaVar and I

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Speaker 4: alongside Brady Quinn weekday morning, six am Eastern time, three

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Speaker 4: o'clock Pacific on something called two pros and a Cup

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Speaker 4: of Joe, which you can hear on many of these

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports radio affiliates. But a couple of things have changed. One,

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Speaker 4: we're in this time slot to Brady Quinn's not with

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Speaker 4: us and so whoa, it's sure, that's clear, Well not

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Speaker 4: with us today.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't do anything to Brady Quinn, So y'all

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00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: stop writing in his mother loved What did LeVar do

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Speaker 5: to him?

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00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: Like?

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: Like what, Like, I'm going to be valid towards him,

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00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 5: y'all need to stop that.

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: But if q hasn't made it a point to tell

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Speaker 5: y'all why he's not on hair right on, that's not

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00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 5: on me or Jonas, you take that up with him.

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00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: Hey, dead man.

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00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: Walking, you gonna hit them with that.

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Speaker 4: But Brady's out with us today. So when it's just

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: LeVar and I something called black and draft. I'm black, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I'm very pale, and uh LeVar things I look

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Speaker 4: like draft hire Yeah. So with that said, we are

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Speaker 4: off and running here. In hour three of the program,

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Speaker 4: we opened up the show talking about the decision by

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Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Lakers. Well, first, we started off with

655
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: a positive note. Clayton Kershaw had strike out three thousand. Congratulations.

656
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: It looked a little looked a little suspect there for

657
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 4: a while. He was getting lit up early, and then

658
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 4: he ended up finding his on the one hundredth pitch.

659
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: He ended up throwing his three thousandth strikeout, and the

660
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: Dodgers came back to beat the White Sox, who are awful.

661
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: Came back to beat the White Sox on a Freddie

662
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: Freeman walk off in the ninth. So an amazing night

663
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: at Dodgers Stadium. Also Max Mounts he was injured on

664
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 4: a slide, so that not great. And now we see

665
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: what that could could do for the Dodgers, how they

666
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: have that impact their movement at the trade deadline, et cetera,

667
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: et cetera. So kind of a wild night at Dodger Stadium, ballnall,

668
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: a historic night for Clayton Kershaw, and then apparently a

669
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 4: historic knight for the Los Angeles Lakers, who are all

670
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 4: of a sudden NBA title contenders again because DeAndre Ayton.

671
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: Because DeAndre Ayton means that the Los Angeles Lakers and

672
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden catapulted themselves up towards up

673
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 4: towards the Effer echelon of the National Basketball Association because

674
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: they went out and signed DeAndre Ayton. And look, I

675
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I feel like we've got enough evidence

676
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 4: here to have at least a little bit better read

677
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: on the DeAndre Ayton NBA experience to know, not exactly

678
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: what everybody expected when he was taking number one overall

679
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: in the draft, but apparently for the Lakers, this might

680
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: make a lot of sense for them, and at least

681
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: it's an upgrade. I'm still not sold that it brings

682
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: him any closer to a title, especially in the Western

683
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: Conference with that gauntlet in front of him.

684
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 5: It's a it's a fair conclusion to come to. It's

685
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: a fair assessment to have. But nonetheless, the LA Lakers

686
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: need help on the interior with their bigs and and

687
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 5: Guidon does or excuse me.

688
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: What is it? Aiden Aiden? Aiden?

689
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, DeAndre he he. I think he fills that that void.

690
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: I really do. He has elite big ability. He could

691
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: take a guy outside, he can dribble, he's a good rebounder,

692
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 5: he can score. It wasn't the most productive of years

693
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 5: for him in Portland, but again I'm not I'm not

694
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: gonna judge him off of Portland because I just the

695
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 5: things that I've heard about players in Portland, like with

696
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: the whole whose buddy that just went to Milwaukee Bucks

697
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: was his name, Damian Lillard, Dame Lillard, Right, we just

698
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: heard about how that kind of went north or went

699
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: south and never came back. A lot of people have

700
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: had a lot of complaints about Portland. So I'm not

701
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 5: going to hold DeAndre Ayden accountable all the way accountable

702
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: for it not being more in Portland than what it

703
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: ended up being. But this is an opportunity for him

704
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 5: to go to an amazing market. He gets a two

705
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: year deal, So if he plays really well and he

706
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: plays at a high level, you got to assume that

707
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: he's going to be rewarded, and so I think this

708
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 5: is a great opportunity for him. I think it's also

709
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: a great opportunity for the La Lakers to continue what

710
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 5: would perceivably be moves that make them stronger and build

711
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 5: more around what they're going to do in the future

712
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 5: with Luka Doncic than what it would look like having

713
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 5: Lebron James on this roster. Out from one team, the Lakers,

714
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 5: to another team, the Knicks. I mean, you know, pick

715
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 5: a side show any side show everybody, here we go.

716
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: The New York Knicks are hiring Mike Brown as their

717
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: head coach. Now two time Coach of the Year winner.

718
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 5: I spent years with two of the more stable and

719
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 5: successful organizations in the league, San Antonio and Golden State.

720
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: You look at the move, you look at the higher

721
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: you go. Okay, makes a lot of sense, like the

722
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 4: hiring of Mike Brown. But why did it take so long?

723
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: What was like? I feel like this is a move

724
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: that could have been done shortly after the season, pretty quickly,

725
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: and ever it would be like, all right, at least

726
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 4: there's a clear understanding, clear direction. Instead, they just couldn't

727
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: help themselves. They had to turn it into a circus.

728
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: They could not stop themselves. They had to scratch the itch.

729
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 4: It turned into what it turned into. They were rejected

730
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: as they tried to interview everybody wasn't Don State.

731
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: There was a moment in time where they were going

732
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 5: to interview Don Staley for the job.

733
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: And who Staley? Just so, what are we doing here.

734
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: In terms of optics? What are you in terms of

735
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: the New York Knicks? Would that had been how you

736
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: think that would have been received? And let's just say

737
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 5: for the sake of saying they ended up hiring Don

738
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: Staley as the head coach of the New York Knicks.

739
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 5: How do you think that would hit? Do you think

740
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 5: that the sports world is ready for that type of

741
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 5: a hire. I think that that would be an intriguing

742
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 5: conversation to delve into and to talk about, because she

743
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: is a fine basketball coach. She knows how to motivate,

744
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 5: she knows how to relate, she understands the game. She's

745
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 5: got a great mental disposition of mentality. The biggest concern

746
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: and the biggest question to me would be does that

747
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 5: translate to two men? And that would would be my Like,

748
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: nobody has a problem when there's a male coach coaching

749
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 5: a w NBA team, But how would that be accepted?

750
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: The first woman to be an.

751
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 5: NBA hey coach and it being of the New York Knicks, historic,

752
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 5: historic franchise, how would that be perceived?

753
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: I just like they're trying to spin it as well.

754
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: We gave a very thorough effort in looking at me,

755
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: and that's crazy, that's what they want. I mean, you

756
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: know we were we were thorough about the entire process.

757
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: Like now you were looking to grab headlines let's just

758
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: let's be honest. You were looking to grab headlines. Otherwise,

759
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: Mike Mike Brown was the only guy that interviewed multiple times,

760
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: the only one. Like everything was a headline grabbing, Like

761
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: Don Staley, you had all the other names that came

762
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: out of Jay Wright's name was out, all these names

763
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: popped up, you know, Uh, Danny Hurley's name was starting.

764
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: Like all of these names that were out there, Email Doka,

765
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: all of these guys. It was never gonna happen. They

766
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: just wanted to grab headlines. They wanted to get talked about.

767
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: They wanted everybody to talk about. It's like, right, when

768
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: you think they're at least past all that, then you

769
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: see them celebrate getting past the second round, and you go, oh,

770
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: it's still the Nickel and Dime Nicks. Okay, at least

771
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: now we know all right, at least now we know.

772
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: Like for a second there you thought that they were

773
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: back and a legitimate organization, and then you see the

774
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: way they celebrate and the way they handled this whole thing.

775
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 4: They're like, oh yeah, same well Nicks, Nickel and Dime.

776
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: I think the Don Stay conversation is an interesting conversation.

777
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: I think another interesting topic line we discussed in hour

778
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 5: one of the show is the idea that Mike Brown

779
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 5: has a relationship with Lebron James. A lot of people

780
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: are having the conversations that the time in LA has

781
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 5: has started to wind down quicker and that looking to possibly,

782
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 5: you know, be in a different market could possibly take

783
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 5: place for Lebron if he doesn't want to step away

784
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 5: from the game. He accepted his contract extension from the Lakers,

785
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: meaning that it doesn't seem like he has any intentions

786
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: of not playing in next season. Mike Brown coached him

787
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: his first first stint in Cleveland. They had great success together.

788
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: They didn't win it all, but they got very close,

789
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 5: made it to the finals. And I think now the

790
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 5: rumor mil will be out there and this is something

791
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 5: that again I gotta get credit to my man cuffs

792
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 5: the legend because I can't take it as for me.

793
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: But is there the possibility that now that Mike Brown

794
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: has taken the job in New York, that is the

795
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 5: first domino to fall and Lebron James being the next

796
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 5: domino to fall, coming to New York and becoming a

797
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: nick It would not be surprising if that were something

798
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: that place. Knowing that this New York Knicks team is

799
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: very close. That's the reason why they win a different direction,

800
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: which makes no sense to me that you would go

801
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 5: in a different direction because you're so close to winning

802
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: an NBA title. Weird, But they're so close to an

803
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 5: NBA title and maybe they're one player away. I think

804
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: they realized that they were probably one player away from

805
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 5: being that next level, being able to get through to

806
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 5: the finals and possibly had the opportunity, the chance to

807
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 5: be able to win the finals. Is Lebron James the

808
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 5: next domino in line to fall to end up as

809
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: a New York Knick.

810
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: What if the Knicks said, Lebron will trade for you,

811
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: but you can't bring Bronny.

812
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: He's got to stay back, do you think again?

813
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: I think there's two ways of looking at the Bronnie

814
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: James situation. And you gave an interesting plot twist and

815
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 5: our one. But I'll say there's two ways. One with

816
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: JJ Reddick, I do believe that that Lebron James plays

817
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 5: a intricate role in him getting the gig. Whether people

818
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 5: want to say he didn't or he did, Whether people

819
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: want to debate it or they don't, I don't care.

820
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 5: They got JJ Reddick and I believe that Lebron James's

821
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: influence is the reason why they then reward him with

822
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 5: drafting his son in the draft and bringing him to

823
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: the team. They kept him on the team and he

824
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: maintained his position. If they can ensure Lebron James that

825
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: Brownie is okay as a as an LA Laker, then

826
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: I don't think he would have an issue. I don't

827
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: think he would have an issue with leaving Brownie behind

828
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 5: in LA considering that his family's here right His little

829
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 5: sister's still here, Bryce, the little brother's still here. Mom

830
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 5: would probably still be here. So Lebron going to New York,

831
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: I don't think that that would be a deal breaker.

832
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 5: They didn't want to take Bronnie with him, But I

833
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: do think it would be an interesting conversation if Bronnie

834
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: James did, in fact go with Lebron James, if he

835
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: were to, in fact go to New York to play

836
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: for it to Nick and you know.

837
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: The honest thing of the truth about all this, and

838
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: people listening right now on the blowtorch Am five to

839
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: seventy LA Sports, you know this as a fact, and

840
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: you can push back on it all you want people

841
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: are kind of tired of Lebron out here. They're kind

842
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: of tired of It's run its course. We're good, Like,

843
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: if he wants to move on, you can move on,

844
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 4: and fine, we got Luca. That was the real concern

845
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: what was going to happen afterwards, because the thought was

846
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: it was going to be Anthony Davis who was going

847
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: to be here after Lebron left. And then as we've

848
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: learned to find out, you couldn't depend on Anthony Davis

849
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: because of the injuries and all that, and you just

850
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 4: didn't know what you were going to get. At least

851
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: now you've got in shape, in his peak, at his

852
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: full potential, Luca's a top five player in the NBA.

853
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: And if your Laker fans, I think you look at

854
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 4: it and go, if you want to go, that's fine.

855
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: Well whenever we can get back in return, and then

856
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: we just try and work towards the future. Because I

857
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 4: don't know that anybody is honestly looking at this team

858
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 4: as currently constructed and saying, oh, yeah, I take them

859
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: against Oka, see Houston, Denver, Minnesota, et cetera. So if

860
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: you're the Lakers, yeah, it would make sense if you're

861
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: gonna do it. Do it now, get something in return,

862
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: and New York might be the spot to go to.

863
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: All I will say is if he waves his no

864
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: tray clubs and a.

865
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: Slight and a slight pushback, because I think your points

866
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 5: are well found it, I would say, in a slight pushback,

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Speaker 5: adding DeAndre Eighten eighten, how you say Ayten Ayden, adding

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Speaker 5: him and his his ability hate him, adding him to

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Speaker 5: your roster and having that down low presence if he

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Speaker 5: can get back to form that he had in Uh,

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Speaker 5: that he had in Phoenix. I just really I believe

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Speaker 5: if you have Lebron James on this roster, him, Ayden,

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Speaker 5: and Luca and and Ed fill in the blanks however

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Speaker 5: you like to fill in the blanks, I think that's

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Speaker 5: a big three. As Reeves, I mean if he wants

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Speaker 5: to stay. Yeah, if Austin Reeves wants to stay, I

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Speaker 5: mean yes, I really believe they could be a very

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Speaker 5: very talented team that would take us.

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Speaker 3: One problem with Austin Reeves, if he wants to stay,

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Speaker 3: he looks is that what it is?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Didn't he wasn't he like, didn't he not sign his extensions?

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Speaker 4: I think they offered him a deal, but he's gonna

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Speaker 4: wait and try and cash in for more next day.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like he didn't sign the deal, you know,

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Speaker 5: I just you know, to me, I think that if

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Speaker 5: you did one more year with Lebron James, it wouldn't hurt.

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Speaker 5: But I think the whole conversation on the ring chasing,

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Speaker 5: you know, is Lebron James or ring chaser?

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Speaker 3: And why should the answer be no?

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Speaker 5: Lebron James is basically held in the balance of being

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Speaker 5: the greatest of all time based upon the count of

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Speaker 5: rings he has. So if he's ring chasing, who cares? Okay,

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Speaker 5: you're going to ring chase in New York? Is there

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Speaker 5: a problem there? I don't know. I think he has

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Speaker 5: a better chance of trying to win in New York

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Speaker 5: right now today than what he would hear in LA

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Speaker 5: with the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: I agree. Easier path in the East, easier path