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Speaker 1: Hey, you forgot our fifth member of the show. All

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Speaker 1: these hats me Around the NFL podcast has ball control issues.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another addition to the Around the NFL podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by New Era. My name is Dan, and it's

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with heroes Mark Seessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Roosevelt. What is a boise? Hey, Dan, act natural?

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Speaker 1: There's a photographer in the room. Once again. I just

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Speaker 1: Shilah is in the room. She's taking photos of us all.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be some type of promotional maybe something

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Speaker 1: And then literally eight seconds later, was like absolutely this

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Speaker 1: are again in apologies to the entire photography team at

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Speaker 1: NFL Media for going through this dog and pony show again. Um,

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Speaker 1: big show news. You already know we're going to England

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Speaker 1: next month. Very exciting. It is officially next month now,

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Speaker 1: We are traveling the first of September. Where it takes

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Speaker 1: a long time. You know, old that is, sir, not

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Speaker 1: somebody known for international travel at all. I love it here.

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Speaker 1: I've never traveled this far. It's a fifty five hundred

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Speaker 1: We've gotten on the DAN and I have a knack

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Speaker 1: on the RAMS visit, Uh, we'll need a ride from you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: What do we know about Erica? She's talented both with

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Speaker 1: Uh So he's going to get a chance to play.

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Speaker 1: far away off there. It's it's such a fun subplot.

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Speaker 1: Last week when he was the backup the starter for

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Speaker 1: here we go. It is time listen. Sometimes we get

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Speaker 1: in rhythms on the show, and we will find there

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Speaker 1: will be certain teams, a handful of teams, a big

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Speaker 1: handful teams, but not the entire league. Will get interested

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Speaker 1: There you go. So that's today's seg What do you

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Speaker 1: think about that? Mark? Um? I like it. I think

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Speaker 1: you know. When we were producing this segment, it clearly

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Speaker 1: smushed into one idea, and why not have two ideas

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Speaker 1: instead of one? The main idea of teams no One

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Speaker 1: that we haven't been talking about, so let's give them

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Speaker 1: some love, Frankenstein monster of sorts to some degree, it's

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Speaker 1: also a way to get like training camp whispers out

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Speaker 1: there to the people, which is a third segment. So

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Speaker 1: now we have to set an unspoken way but certainly

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Speaker 1: baked in. All right, So here's here's the rule of

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Speaker 1: this particular seg um. The teams that we have been

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Speaker 1: talking about, we got together and we figure out what

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Speaker 1: teams have we been hitting on quite a bit during

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Speaker 1: this offseason and throughout the summer. So what we have

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Speaker 1: is a blacklist. And let me start um by reading

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Speaker 1: off the teams that are on the blacklist. And if

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Speaker 1: you're on the blacklist, you cannot come up from this

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Speaker 1: point onward. In the show in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: Here's the blacklist and alphabetical alphabetical order, so don't get wait,

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Speaker 1: So are some teams that are on the blacklist? Are

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Speaker 1: their hats in front of you? We gotta lose the

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Speaker 1: hats on the video show. We gotta lose the hats

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Speaker 1: if they're on here as well, so we'll take it

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Speaker 1: off the list. We have someone yet, come in and

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Speaker 1: take the hatchet in there. Get the intern here. Cam.

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Speaker 1: You gotta stay out of the shot though, so just

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Speaker 1: if you can get and if you see the hats

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Speaker 1: as we tick them off the name of the blacklist,

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Speaker 1: just just toss them. Come on, hurry up, Cam, certain

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Speaker 1: All right, there's Cam. Hey, what's up buddy? Um? All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Here's the team the blacklists, and again

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Speaker 1: this is the blacklist. This is mark alphabetical. So don't

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Speaker 1: get upset that a certain team from Cleveland comes up first.

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Speaker 1: Don't read into it, don't get into your feelings. I

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Speaker 1: will keep a handle on it. Browns, You're done, you

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Speaker 1: don't Chargers gone. We're the only place talks about the

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Speaker 1: Chargers too much, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Jets, Patriots. Let me

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Speaker 1: handle that one who later rams Ravens, Steel Seahawks, Steelers.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That's the camp. Thank you, Bron,

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Speaker 1: you're the man. You We will not bring up any

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Speaker 1: of those teams, not even a reference, not an off

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Speaker 1: handed reference, not allowed. In fact, there will be a

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Speaker 1: penalty issued to anyone. And that's where Blant men, Blanche men.

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Speaker 1: What I'm holding in my hand and new again, if

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Speaker 1: we watch us on the video show is our segment

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Speaker 1: sin Jar. I'm gonna put it right here. It's sitting

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Speaker 1: right between West and I, right in the center of

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Speaker 1: the table. Anybody that brings up any of those forbidden teams,

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Speaker 1: you gotta drop some money. It's one of those luxurious

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Speaker 1: Uh So, if if you make an eric, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to ask you to help with this the tracking.

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Speaker 1: If one of the forbidden Blacklist teams come up, hit

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Speaker 1: the hit the iron, and then I hope everybody brought money,

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Speaker 1: because this is not a Venmo scenario. You put a

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Speaker 1: credit card in there. If you have to. Uh. So

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Speaker 1: let's get into it now. So, with those teams eliminated,

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Speaker 1: we each picked two of the remaining teams. I believe

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Speaker 1: we had about uh twenty or so teams to choose from.

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Speaker 1: UM and let's start with Mark Sessler. Uh, what team

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Speaker 1: did you choose? I went with the Lions? Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I feel like we almost never talked about the Lions

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Speaker 1: other than to casually dismiss them, right or to laugh

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Speaker 1: about the Amir Abdullah projections. Isn't that's their function in

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Speaker 1: life to be casually dismissed. It has been week four teen.

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Speaker 1: Will call up Patrick and be like, for another season?

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Speaker 1: It has been? And I think my my big issue

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Speaker 1: with them is that they've been, in a word, boring

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Speaker 1: for so long. But after years of Detroit being dangerously

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Speaker 1: ultra dole, what you hobby horse people don't know is

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Speaker 1: this will be one of the most improved teams in

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Speaker 1: fest to a watchable week to week offering. For me,

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Speaker 1: it starts with matt Patricia. I think Matthew Stafford, we've

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Speaker 1: seen him on NFL never a couple of times he's

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Speaker 1: trimmed down he looks fantastic. He's coming off a good season.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna produce his best season. They've got

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Speaker 1: three good receivers, Marvin Jones, Golden Tate, Kenny Galladay, Ziggy

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Speaker 1: Anza is my one. I like him, but I'm my

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Speaker 1: but they finally have a deep backfield. Forever. They annoyed

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Speaker 1: And carry on Johnson and the offensive line. They've finally

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Speaker 1: think you've got different types inside New England. Are Abdullah

636
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: carry on? I think carry on Johnson? Maybe he's got mentioned.

637
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: You see, I've paid it and I brought I brought

638
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: money a couple of twenties in there, all right, I apologize. So, yeah,

639
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: it's good, baby, it's yeah. For the show, maybe it's better.

640
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: I think that Matthew Stafford has become one of the

641
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: most fun quarterbacks to watch, and his movement inside and

642
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: outside the pocket to get away from pressure is that

643
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: as high level as any quarterback in the game. I

644
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: think what people out there don't know that you hit

645
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: on was how good the offensive line. Finally, I think

646
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: that could be kind of what they become known for.

647
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: And if you have a great offensive line with rag

648
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: Now at left guard, and if they're healthier and Taylor

649
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Decker and t J. Lang Ricky, like, that's a great,

650
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: strong group and they're protecting for Stafford in the middle

651
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: of his prime with three great receivers. And I don't

652
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: really care about the running game that much. I think

653
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. I think it'll end up being

654
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: close enough to average. If you can protect and you

655
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: have a passing game that good like the Patriots, the

656
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: running game can take care of Wow, um, everybody, isn't

657
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: that I mention it? So that's that's interesting when you

658
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: when you think spend forward into making predictions for seasonal awards.

659
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: He's been great post jim Bob cooer if he's truly

660
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: at his apex as a quarterback and we like everything

661
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: around him, the lines better than ever ever. I wonder

662
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: sneaky VP candidate, Alright, you're up west. What you clowns

663
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: don't know about the San Francisco forty Niners is there

664
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: is reason to be excited beyond Jimmy Garoppolo and Kyle

665
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Shanahan when it comes to this offense down the stretch

666
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: last year, when they were playing so well and specifically

667
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: in the route of the Jacksonville Jaguars, I came away

668
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: thinking Matt Brada is better than Carlos Hide. He's more

669
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: of a playmaker than Carlos Hide. And for all the

670
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: money they paid to Jerick McKinnon, do not be surprised

671
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: if Matt Brada by the end of the season outproduces

672
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon. This guy is a good player. He's a playmaker.

673
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: Austin Pettis, their second round rookie, looks like one of

674
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: those guys who is going to make a big pack

675
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: right off the bat because he's a return, dynamic return

676
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: guy and he's getting snaps in the slot. This year.

677
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is much too much improved. Pierre Garson

678
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: is healthy. I don't think the forty niners are like

679
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: some fluke that just got hot in December. I think

680
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: this offense has has a lot of potential. Have concerns

681
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: about the defensive side of the ball. There are to

682
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: me what I and I wrote about this in my

683
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: mailbag today. He Garoppolo is gonna have to be as

684
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: good as we all think he can be. I think

685
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: because the NFC is so loaded, it's gonna be they're

686
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to really have something super special and Garoppolo

687
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: and maybe they do because the defense they don't really

688
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. They have the issues with Ruben Foster.

689
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's like the centerpiece of that secondary now and

690
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: is he the same players? A lot of question marks

691
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: on that side. They have some pieces on defense though

692
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: it's not it's not some of these teams that we

693
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: don't talk about, but they statistically we're not a good

694
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: defense last year. We also, I don't think we know

695
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: yet who Robert sala is as a defensive coordinator. He's

696
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: not Vic Fonsio, but what is is he an asset.

697
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: Is he a liability? I saw Steve White downstairs last

698
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: week and he pointed out that their defensive coordinator is

699
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: a secret, huge asset in San Francisco. It didn't show

700
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: up last year on the field. I mean, I think

701
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: he's trying to bring a lot of the same principles

702
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have done on defense. And they are

703
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: really high on a Killow Weatherspoon and Kawan Williams, these

704
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: two young cornerbacks that are with Richard Sherman. I have

705
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: to just trust them on that, I guess, or just

706
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: wait because they're those two guys. And really that secondary

707
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: with Sherman, as Dan mentioned, is an X factor because

708
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: on paper doesn't look too good and they got they got,

709
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: they got beat down last year pretty often. Um, I'll

710
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: just start out there. Over under victories nine and a half.

711
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: Where does everybody come down? Take the under? I think

712
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: is a successful season five. I still feel like they're building.

713
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: They're not yet like contending. If you look that would

714
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: be a success. I'm gonna say under, and I'm gonna

715
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: say I don't see any team more overrated in the

716
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: entire NFL when you look at the odds, like in

717
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: the Desert. Look into the season like the odds to

718
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: win the division or the super Bowl or anything. The

719
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: forty nine is to me, are the most over It's

720
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: what you've done. They're already in the playoffs that they're

721
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: like one of the playoff teams. They went into the

722
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: off season as the buzziest thing in the entire NFC

723
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: that did not make the playoffs. And everyone wants to assume,

724
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: because Jimmy Garoppolo was a nearly flawless that you're gonna

725
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: inferral some sort of fourteen in two season. They're gonna

726
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: encounter problems and they're in They're in a conference that

727
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: in the a f C would probably have three extra

728
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: teams make the playoffs. Yeah, they're in a loaded, top

729
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: heavy NFC. Um all right, Um, what you bozos fail

730
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: to realize is that the Denver Broncos maybe closer to

731
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: picking him the top five next day April than getting

732
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: back to the play You guys don't see it. Tell

733
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: us how you see it. Um, Listen, I know you

734
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: know John Ella. He's a great guy. He's amazing a guy.

735
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: He's a little Um. I just thought there was a

736
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: bit of a rush to uh crown him once more

737
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: as a guy that has everything figured out in the draft,

738
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: and perhaps that draft with Chub at the top and

739
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: UH and some of the defensive pieces they added, will

740
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: allow that team to kind of regain its dominant edge

741
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. And from where

742
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: I stand, it's like, if that doesn't happen, if he

743
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: suddenly because this guy hasn't been a good talent scout

744
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: or a draft of talent for several years now post

745
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl win, if that, if that, if that doesn't change,

746
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: and he doesn't hit some home runs, why why do

747
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: we think the Broncos are gonna score points? Why do

748
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: we think there's suddenly going to uh turn back into

749
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: this uh defensive juggernaut that wins games? Case Keenum. The

750
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: more I think about that signing, the more I just

751
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I mean that maybe last year

752
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: with what he did in Minnesota transfers over. But I'd

753
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: be much more uh surprised, or would be. I'd be

754
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: less surprised if he turns into the old Case keenom

755
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: because now he's surrounded by the type of talent maybe

756
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: that he was, and all the other stops. What if

757
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: you get ram Case keenom is what I'm saying. Well,

758
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: maybe there's a couple of expre say, a couple of

759
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: other things here, because if all right, technicality, if you said,

760
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: what if you get rams refers to the player, that's fine.

761
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: That's how this game marks. I got banged a little

762
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: bit there. You bang yourself anyway, What if we get

763
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: what if we get the old case? And who's on

764
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: the bench, Paxton Lynch and Chad Kelly. Those are the options,

765
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: the fallback options. The offensive line was bad last year?

766
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: He had an awesome offensive line keenom uh last season?

767
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: What if that line is no good? What if Royce

768
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: Freeman is in an upgrade on C J Anderson. I

769
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: just think there's a path that you can go down

770
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: in Denver that is very dark, the darkest timeline four

771
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: and twelve vance Joseph who impressed no one. It sounds

772
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: like last year he gets cleaned out and suddenly always

773
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: uh is uh gm ng for his life this time

774
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: next spring. I guess a couple of factors because we

775
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: just talked earlier in the show about the Vikings being

776
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: this NFC team that are so stocked on offense that

777
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: you can see that it obviously helped case Keenum. I

778
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: mean he grew as a quarterback too, but you need

779
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Corton Sutherland to produce as a rookie. You have the

780
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: same two wide receivers there that you've had forever, and

781
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: Sanders and Thomas that it's one of these backfields where

782
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: it's totally wide open because there's no clear number one

783
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: back and the offensive line has issues on the right

784
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: side of the two sacks allowed last year and there

785
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: were not major upgrades brought in. I don't worry about

786
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: the defense at all, but you're right about the offense.

787
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: How many offenses around the league do you not know

788
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: who's going to be the starting running back, the starting

789
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: slot receiver, the altading tight end. Jake, But baby, we

790
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna start right. You don't know

791
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: how your quarterback is gonna be coming over from a

792
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: different team. You don't know how your right tackle is

793
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: going to be after he was benched for a different

794
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: team last year. The flip side is they had one

795
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: of the worst record in one score games last year.

796
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: They really weren't that bad of a team a year ago. Uh,

797
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: they do have weapons for you know, they have a

798
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: very good wide receiver group. I think for case Keenum

799
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: at least as the starters. I think what you guys

800
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: both did upon though, is absolutely right, which is John

801
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Elway needs this draft class to produce. Almost more pressure

802
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: on this draft class to produce, and I would throw

803
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: in day Shawn Hamilton's along with Courtland Sutton at wide

804
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: receiver who pea a lot of people really like, and

805
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman, and really throughout the draft people are talking

806
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: up how they've looked early in camp, but there's more

807
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: pressure on them to get production from rookies than just

808
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: about any team. And you don't want that, and you

809
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: especially don't want that if your GM has been one

810
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: of the very worst gms at picking rookies for the

811
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: last five years. So it's a tough spot for Johnny.

812
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: I don't think they have an exceedingly high ceiling. I

813
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: think the ceiling, honestly to me, is nine or ten

814
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: wins in the floor. Think it could be like four wins.

815
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: There's always a team around this time of year that

816
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: you maybe go against the grain and call out and

817
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: usually doesn't work. No, I would say, actually, your track

818
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: record is on point with that. Why do you think

819
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: he's allowed in the lamp. I'm down here. They're not

820
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: a team that They're not a team people think are

821
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. The cheap people are going to

822
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: pick the chiefs in the charges now. But you do

823
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: hear like, oh, listen, they you never know what the

824
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: denver they could be right back there. I forgot what's

825
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: going on with the side of the table over here

826
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: has got money to burn. We're the only team in

827
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: the league that speaks about a team your pockets. All right,

828
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: you're right, your pockets. I'm going to talk about the

829
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and what you bozo don't know, go back,

830
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: we've heard that before is that they have an identity,

831
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: that they have an exciting identity, and that they're a

832
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: team that we've ignored for so long and for whatever reason,

833
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: the whole Matt Lafleur experience going over to Tennessee has

834
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: not been a topic. This is gonna be an offense

835
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: that looks totally difference. Taywan Taylor, who might be Evan

836
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: Silva the Goats, uh, you know, favorite young player in

837
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: the league right now, Tawan Taylor playing a lot on

838
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: the outside. Corey Davis has been lighting up training camp.

839
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: That is an exciting young wide receiver group that that

840
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: they are looking forward to seeing. Richard Matthews hasn't been healthy,

841
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: but those two guys, and then you have Derrick Henry

842
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: who's now up to two d and fifties something pounds like,

843
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: looking like he's all muscle, looking like the cover of

844
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: twins when he's sitting next to Dion Lewis. I'm excited

845
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: to see what a team does with two cool young

846
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: receivers to fun running backs and two tight ends in

847
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Delaney Walker and John new Smith. And I also think

848
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: this defense, which gets Tanps out of his one day

849
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: retirement in Baltimore, is going to have more of an

850
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: identity too with Mike Rabel and it's a It starts

851
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: in the secondary, and everyone that's been down in Tennessee

852
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: has said that Malcolm Butler has been kind of the

853
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: leader on that defense and the secondary has been awesome.

854
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: What are you looking at? Mentioned that team that we

855
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: visit the Yeah during our production meeting. By the way,

856
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it since. During our production meeting,

857
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: referenced a past game where we had the same dynamic

858
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: and sat there in his swivel chair telling us how

859
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: he dominated that game by never referencing, Oh, it's like

860
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: you're getting crushed here and then this time. I haven't

861
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: thought once about the game except for when that's By

862
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: the way, Greg just got changed out of the sin

863
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: Jar Devil's advocate. On this identity thing, Yeah, the annointeam

864
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: Oils are out awfully soon for a team who's number

865
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: one problem last year was they had no identity. They

866
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: want to have an identity as a running game with

867
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: a great offensive line. But you're giving them a lot

868
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: of credit by saying they do have that identity. I

869
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: think I think they'll have. I think these young playmakers

870
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: are an identity, and hopefully that the fleur is the

871
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: guy who can bring it out. And I do think

872
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: the secondary is an identity, like I do think it

873
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: is Dory. I think it will be a Dorri Jackson

874
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan. Those are like three

875
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: guys that you can go to war with. And Kevin Bayer.

876
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: There aren't many secondaries that are better than that kind

877
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: of nasty, gonna play well play after play. I think

878
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: it gives them some I think that there might be

879
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: just a little bit in the wait and see category

880
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: of people that it was two seasons ago that exotic

881
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: smash mouth was this heavily sold identity and it worked

882
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: to some degree. And then last year they switched away

883
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: from that identity to essentially no identity in in this

884
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: wizz and hunt slash malarkey offense, which had didn't really

885
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: change when they changed coaches. It was always kind of

886
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: malarkey first whole career. So so I'm excited to see

887
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: a non malarkey attack. And if if the offense of scheme, uh,

888
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: if he struggles in the scheme, you can't blame it

889
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: on the scheme. He might enter the r Ryan Tannehill like, yeah,

890
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: the Twilight Zoner. That'd be disappointing after because he around

891
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: the wild times when he looks so good. But alright,

892
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: one more time around the horn, mark, you're u is

893
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: such a good time to check the sink on these

894
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: podcast boss. See we've been called this before, all right.

895
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: A couple of seasons ago, the Redskins fielded a Kirk

896
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: Cousins let offense that became one of my favorite to

897
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: watch on game pass. Not all season long, but it

898
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: would pop up in spurts and I remember you'd see

899
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: the potential. I loved it Kissing Cousins. That's where it

900
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: was born. That's where that's right. What you lower Messanie

901
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: sun down Kirk Cousins, what you lower mezzanine level? People

902
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, that's good to be in the lower meszanine.

903
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: That's true. You're closer to the field, But mezzanine isn't

904
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: always for you're not. Yeah, you're instill in the mezzanine.

905
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: It's one of these vast stadiums where you've got giant

906
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: poles in front of you. But I did not nail

907
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: the insults at ASO. Don't have the support polls that

908
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: used to cause. What you knows bleeders don't know is

909
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: that this year's offense will be a top ten berserker

910
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: number one. I don't think you can say that you

911
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: get incredibly worse with Alex Smith because Alex Smith, I think,

912
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: can maintain what happened at quarterback and maybe even improve

913
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: on it. We don't want Alex Smith. Well, I don't know.

914
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: It's not because of Alex Smith alone. That Alex Smith

915
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: never goes anywhere and makes a team worse. If anything,

916
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: they become if they were a playoff team, they stay

917
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: up playoff team. But I love. I do like their

918
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver group. I think Jamison Crowder, Josh Dotson, Paul Richardson,

919
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: added Darius Guice, Chris Thompson. In the backfield, I think

920
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: there's potential and there's parts in place here to take

921
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: it to teams a couple of times. I'm not saying

922
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team, but fun to watch. Maybe a

923
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: team that has issues on defense to a little bit,

924
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: but they're gonna have a couple of big top steps

925
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, that's like a sandwich prop maybe from

926
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Health is the Greg on my side,

927
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Health is the big CANV. Health is because they were ruined,

928
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: decimated by injuries last year and a guy like Josh

929
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Stocks and I'm starting to wonder if he's ever going

930
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: to stay well. He in fact, he was hurt today.

931
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: Although it doesn't sound that serious offensive line killed them

932
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: last year. I know the running backs weren't Jordan's. Jordan

933
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: Reads the best player on their offense, and he was out.

934
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: I almost struggled to mention him though, because we all

935
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: know he's there. But secondly, he's almost like Trent Williams.

936
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: I would say william he was gone. So they they

937
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: had a lot of players hurt, and I think, like

938
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: of the Gruden thing that this, I think he's you

939
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: could say, babe, he's around, Why is he still there?

940
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: I think he's actually done a good job on the

941
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: whole as a coach. He's the longest tenured coach in

942
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: the Dan Snyder era, which is says a lot about Dan.

943
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: If the Redskins finished in the top tenant offense, they

944
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: will have made a tremendous personnel decision to let Kirk

945
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: cut walk. So you go, I don't think it's because

946
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm not healthy. Last year would have been top ten.

947
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: Is you're not paying superstar money for Kirk Cousins if

948
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: you can get the same thing at lesser money for

949
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Ox Smith. All right, that's fair. Put that, put those

950
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: resources elsewhere, Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

951
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: West alright, Like that was pretty good. Hot take, Mark.

952
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: I like that one. Thank you, alright, Westy. What you

953
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: chuckle heads don't know is that this year's Cincinnati Bengals

954
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: are closer to the two thousand fifteen squad that John

955
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Hall of Famer Bill Poolly and raped about

956
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: as the strongest roster in the NFL, and last year's squad.

957
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: They entered the season knowing that their offensive line couldn't

958
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: block anyone. And one of the big reasons is that

959
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: this team drafted really poorly two thousand, fourteen fifteen sixteen

960
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: last year's draft. They're gonna see John Ross and Joe

961
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: Mix and play really well this year. What is the

962
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: first thing you guys think of when you hear the

963
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: word John The words John Ross bust injury. Yeah, like

964
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: last season's hype bunny, the fastest ever time at the

965
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: combine Before last season, Yeah, I would have said fast

966
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: as hell. I think that might actually hurt him to

967
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: be known for that, because this guy was a There

968
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: was a reason why he's a top ten draft pick,

969
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: not like thirty second overall, a top ten draft pick,

970
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: because he's a complete wide receiver. He's a really good

971
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: football player, not just a speed demon, and he has

972
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: been the talk of Bengals camp. Nobody can cover him.

973
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: His double move is lethal, and you're gonna see that

974
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: a talent like that opens up the entire offense, just

975
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: like Sae Kwon Barkley and Odell Beckham open up the

976
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: Giant Cross Blue. We're not allowed to talk about the

977
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Giants they're not on the list. Yes a yeah, over

978
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: talk about well, come on their quarterback alone keep saying

979
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: it that's double plug into that has been I don't

980
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: even think they're on that At various points. This has

981
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: kind of been the debate Eli Manning's Legacy podcast. Anyway,

982
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: Tyler Ifford, by the way, has a mullet right now.

983
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: He's also that may alone Negate West. This entire argument

984
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: healthy Tyler Eifford, huge question mark healthy John Ross a J.

985
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Green Maybe you get I get it that they have

986
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: they had exclamation points. This roster has question marks. I

987
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: think Harrol Austin has their coordinator. It was a nice

988
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: move after I losing Paul gun There. I'm I'm with West.

989
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: I think the Corty Glenn trade salvaged what would be

990
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: another disaster upfront because their offensive line outside of the

991
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: right side of some issues. I had totally sold on.

992
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: They have the first round center. Who you know, was

993
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I believe that the best center in college football? Most

994
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: people said last year. They've got a really good guard.

995
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: They do have some issues on the right side. One

996
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: who did I lose Paul Gunther too? The Raiders? Oh

997
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: I got you was fishing that's okay. You already three

998
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: or five minutes I got I'm playing with house money here,

999
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: give me a break. A lot of pressure here on

1000
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Mark to get in clean because I feel literally no pressure.

1001
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: All right, it's the opposite of pressure. Let's move on

1002
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: and I will say what you snow flakes don't realize

1003
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: is that the Texans need a lot to go right,

1004
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: probably too much to be taken seriously as a legit

1005
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: would be Patriots layer. Oh that's another wow. I mean

1006
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: that's coming off your script. Job. Um here's wise. Um.

1007
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more wrong about the I thought

1008
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna have action. Um, there is. It seems

1009
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: like the surface take here is that as long as

1010
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson is back in and his way, as

1011
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: long as J. J. Watt is back and healthy, everything

1012
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: will be fine. And maybe that's true. Maybe as as

1013
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: long as those two guys are back and healthy, uh,

1014
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: that will maybe make the difference. But I think one

1015
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: thing with the Texans with Watson, uh is the sample

1016
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: size last year was so small, uh that to really

1017
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: lock him in to be that guy for sixteen games

1018
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: and not and not expect him to have any more

1019
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: growing pains to expect him now to just go up

1020
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: from there. I don't. I don't think that is necessarily

1021
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: um something to be accepted as a given. He was

1022
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: if you look at his numbers last year. Uh, he

1023
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: was tremendous on short range passes. He was transcendent as

1024
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: a deep passer, which probably is going to always be

1025
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: a great skill for his But he was one of

1026
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: the worst like mid range passers in the league. That's

1027
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: a big part of the quarterbacks games. So he was

1028
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: not a fully polished guy. He also took a ton

1029
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: of saxe uh and turned the ball over a lot.

1030
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: So he had a lot of splash plays and gave

1031
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: every everybody in Houston and football fans a lot of

1032
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: reasons they get excited that we have another young superstar quarterback,

1033
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: and he probably will be that. But I just think

1034
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: that growing pains and perhaps not a cent to m

1035
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: VP candidates status is to be a given heading into

1036
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: this season. And I think that offensive line is not

1037
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: going to help matters. Uh. And so I don't think

1038
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: I say I made the snowflake comment. I know this

1039
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: is kind of something we've talked about in this studio,

1040
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: but I think in general, maybe not as enough as

1041
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 1: being made of Watson's development and it's still very early

1042
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: in the process, and an offensive line that could get

1043
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: him killed coming off an a c L tear. Also,

1044
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: I think it's telling how different their offense was earlier

1045
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: in the year when the first game when he wasn't there,

1046
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: and then after the injury, they were maybe the worst

1047
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL when he wasn't there, and then

1048
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: when he was on the field they were great. But

1049
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a small sample size. He got lucky

1050
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: when it came to passes that could have been intercepted,

1051
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: but weren't abnormally lucky on those kinds of throws. But

1052
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: he the talent is real to me. The offensive line

1053
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: is an issue um the fact that they have changed

1054
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: their entire offense this year, because he and Bill O'Brien

1055
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: showed a mind mild last year that was impressive to behold.

1056
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: That Bill O'Brien's play calling combined with his skill set

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00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: was incredible. You need a running game to step up.

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00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: It's still Lamar Miller. You hope will Fuller stays healthy

1059
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: because I think Will Fuller has a difference maker, a

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00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: real number two receiver and then suddenly you're not so thin.

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they are your team, so I want them

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: to be. I think they are a team. They are

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00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: a team that if things do click, they could take

1064
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: out that big brother that plays up in New England.

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Speaker 1: But I think that they gotta worry about Jack. They

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00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: gotta worry about it some other team. Yeah, I think

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00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: just used half their name. I think that's at They're

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00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: not on the list anyway. So I mean it's the

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00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: other thing is that when until the games start, like

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: the concept that this quarterback must regress is just as

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: like a variable as he'll stay the same. It's just

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: we don't know. I mean, there's a lot of teams

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: that when Aaron Rodgers went down, that team looked like

1074
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: absolute garbage last season tiptoed through the mind. So I

1075
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: just I for me, it's about his health. But if

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00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: he is the player he was last year, the other

1077
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: side is, oh, everyone's gonna get film on him. Is

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: he's going to continue to grow and develop? So I

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00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: I just he was one of the most exciting players

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL last year. The season changed when

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: he went down. And if he's the guy he was

1082
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: and the way he him and Bill O'Brien. I mean,

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00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: he finally got his quarterback. They were destroying teams and

1084
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: so we'll have to say offseason to prepare the offense

1085
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: for him that it's basically the Shaun Watson offense and O'Brien,

1086
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: who you can knock for some things. I mean he's

1087
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: won a lot of games with case Keenum and Brian

1088
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: Hoyer and who else has been there in Houston. Then

1089
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting about Brandon Weeden. Uh Mallett, I kind of forgotten. Yeah,

1090
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: laundry list of nobody's. Well, he was also playing against

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00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: the a f C South all those years. It's a

1092
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 1: better division. Now close it out, all right. My team

1093
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: is the Arizona Cardinals. And what you football Nea fights

1094
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: don't know is there's a lot of young, exciting talent

1095
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: on this roster that hasn't gotten a lot of pub

1096
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: on defense last year. What another thing people don't know

1097
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: is defense was Bruce arians Is secret weapon. Throughout his time,

1098
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: they ranked in the top seven in Football Outsiders Defensive

1099
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: d v o A throughout the entire Bruce arians run.

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00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: So it was more consistent than the offense. Including last year,

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00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: they were very good. Couple of young guys there. Pierre

1102
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: Olsen was really good as part time pass rusher. Buddha

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: Baker really looks like a great Honey Badger replacement. Corey

1104
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Peters has been kind of underrated over the last few years.

1105
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden, and then when you're on the offensive side,

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01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: Ricky Seals Jones. I'm excited to watch him play at

1107
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: tight end. I think he could actually make a pretty

1108
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: big impact. And everyone looks better when you have David

1109
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: Johnson around. So even though this isn't a sizzle team,

1110
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm very curious just to watch them because they're they're

1111
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: about as different schematically on offense and defense. Huge changes.

1112
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, couldn't have changed more in terms of their

1113
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: scheme on both sides of the ball. They're gonna go

1114
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: from kind of balls out to very safe on offense

1115
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: and maybe the reverse on defense. Uh. And we'll have

1116
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: to see, we'll have to see if Wilkes is is

1117
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: a good head coach or not. But they're just totally

1118
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: different and has a lot of good did you even

1119
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: I did not because he he hasn't done anything. They're

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: they're hopeful, but he's there. I'll give my next Kim

1121
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: Kim d performance when he actually shows up in the

1122
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: news on any tangible level. Well, you people don't know

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01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: is the number two receiver for the Arizona Cardinals, Chad Williams, right,

1124
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler, Bryce Butler, Chad Williams is in the mix

1125
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: they you know they have, They don't have a lot

1126
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: of better hope that Greg Little's in their camp. Little

1127
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: was getting some pop the other day to Christian Kirk.

1128
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: They drafted to play some snaps. My answer to that

1129
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: pop that he's getting is that the Broncos head beat

1130
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: writers said that Paxton Lynch was the star of practice today.

1131
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: Who cares this training camp? That tells me all I

1132
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: need to know he's getting a ton of buzz uh

1133
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: down over in Maryland is John Brown? Yes, sir, I

1134
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: think I think the Cardinals to me, are going to

1135
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: be that team where I think the most overrated maxim

1136
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: in sports is. Yeah, nothing harder than winning a game

1137
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, It's like, no, it's I

1138
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: thought it was hitting a baseball, right, It's there's no,

1139
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: It's equally hard as every other sport. One team wins

1140
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: one every single week and it's not that hard to

1141
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: win six games? Is gonna be my larger point. And

1142
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals feel to me like no one's paying any attention,

1143
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: and I think they'll find a way to get to

1144
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: six or seven wins. I agree. I feel like the

1145
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: most overrated maxim was the September issue with a Lissa Milano,

1146
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: Oh to go lad Latin mag talk all right, Mark

1147
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: has stopped talking. He just wants to Sindjar money, and

1148
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: I talked NonStop during that segment. Um, I won it. Yes,

1149
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: you did, good job, Mark, You're the winner. You get

1150
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: the money in the Sinjar, including the money that Greg

1151
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: took him put back in his pocket. You've already won

1152
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: more games than Um. What was that team ere fort?

1153
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: What nice try? What if you use that sinjar money

1154
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: to bias the sandwiches you owe? Bought you two sandwiches?

1155
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: I do, Oh, Greg one, and I probably own another

1156
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: two or three rounds, So maybe I will. Before we

1157
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: go training camp Spotlight presented by New Era, We're gonna

1158
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: do sixty seconds on the Hall of Fame game Baltimore

1159
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: versus Chicago. Start the clock, Erica go. Best Hall of

1160
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: Fame game ever because they will have like two quarters

1161
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson. That's it. What could be better got

1162
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: fifty four seconds left, mentioned Drabinski in Neggie's new office

1163
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: offense for like one drive or some nonsense. Yeah. I

1164
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: don't know how much we'll see of any of this stuff,

1165
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: but I think Lamar Jackson we're not. We may not

1166
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: see Flacco at all either, but I'd like to see

1167
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of Baltimore's new wide receivers. They want

1168
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: to put them out a bit, but Lamar Jackson has

1169
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: been the most talked about guy in the entire preseason.

1170
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: They can put Alan Chris on this game. Yeah, preseason

1171
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: preseasons four. I mean, that's to me, the most fun

1172
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: thing to watch, and I think you'll get a lot

1173
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: You'll get a lot more entertainment because Lamar Jackson is

1174
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 1: going to be heavily involved. Best Tall of Fame game

1175
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: wasn't the one where the grass, the paint on the

1176
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: grass congealed and they canceled it. Yeah. I thought that

1177
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: was probably the most memorable moment in Hall of Fame

1178
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: game history, the game that didn't even take place. West

1179
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: would agree a chance to watch Gus Edwards run twenty

1180
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: times forty seven yards and again the around the NFL.

1181
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh that was training camp spotlight presented by New Era.

1182
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,200
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01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,680
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1185
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast for the Listener Podcast Awards yet? Oh my goodness,

1186
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: hopefully because yesterday was the last date of the card.

1187
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: All right, Yes, we'll be back on Friday. Will be

1188
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: our remote show from Los Angeles Rams Camp. Very exciting,

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: so please tune in for that? Is that another dollar?

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Speaker 1: I guess now we're out of the seg Mark's not

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01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: getting any more money from me. Uh so, yes, make

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Speaker 1: sure you're tune in for that. We are off to camp.

1193
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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansis signing off four Quiet Store, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss, the Loose Cannon, Find them less, help

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Speaker 1: you feel better? American? Ah stil Friday, everybody gets a

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Speaker 1: free hand.