WEBVTT - Mick Shots_5_6.mp3

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is nick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are on a Tuesday afternoon at two

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock for a special edition of Mixed Shots. As there

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<v Speaker 2>are not football players on the football field, there are

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<v Speaker 2>r v's on the football field, right, trailers on the

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<v Speaker 2>trailers on the field. Because we are getting you ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the big event on Thursday night, Right, Mickey spagne We're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna preview the ACMs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. Might have a special guest you

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<v Speaker 2>have the Have the stars arrived yet for it?

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<v Speaker 4>Just I haven't seen anybody, so we'll have to settle

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<v Speaker 4>for ever Walls instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Eversin. Has nothing to do with the draft, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the draft, and nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the ACM Awards either.

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<v Speaker 5>I can read it for you though when my time comes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, we'll look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Tickets still available according to this yes.

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Hate ever since did you grow up in Hamilton Park

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<v Speaker 2>A big country and western fan.

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<v Speaker 5>I did not, but uh, the uncles and my family, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>all of them with cowboys that from East Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh so my before country cool.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom's oldest brother, uh Fay Armstrong. He was a

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<v Speaker 5>good baseball player, but he was also he rode horses

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<v Speaker 5>and the cutting.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut cutting horse. Yeah, j Novichik specially.

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<v Speaker 5>He could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He did that did my way bring it back to

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<v Speaker 2>cowboys there, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, top cowboys. But now he he was very good

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<v Speaker 5>at that, and you know, after a while he started

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<v Speaker 5>getting you know, when you get older, you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 5>started messing with his legs and so he couldn't ride anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>But he gave me his uh the rubber things hook

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<v Speaker 5>onto the saddle and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously that that tradition didn't make it down to our generation.

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<v Speaker 3>The rains, the rains.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but they wouldn't know. The rains is

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<v Speaker 5>when you when you ride it. But this is the stirrups. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the stuff that you strapped things down with

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<v Speaker 5>all the back.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so now your past knowledge, yeah, it basically it

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<v Speaker 3>was straps.

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<v Speaker 5>It was straps. I ended up getting some of those,

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<v Speaker 5>but no, he was very good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, black folk has been doing cowboy stuff for

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<v Speaker 5>so long. My family was one of the one of

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<v Speaker 5>the ones that were doing it out in East Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>But I didn't even like horses. Horses scare me because

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<v Speaker 5>if a horse hits you with his head. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife loves horses.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think I scare horses because they don't listen

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, at least they let you get on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of like people. People don't listen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, right, not enough. But I prepared for the

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<v Speaker 3>a c MS this weekend because you did. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>Luke Combes.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, okay, what position does he play?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, center field in the band? Right in the middle,

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<v Speaker 3>that's drum then yeah, no, the drummers are all in

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<v Speaker 3>the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, all right, very good. It looks like you're

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<v Speaker 2>prepared for mix shots too, not one, not two, not three,

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<v Speaker 2>but four.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't remember stuff, I can recall it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you got and by the way, you got your

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<v Speaker 2>hockey beard going too.

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, that was something I think I woke up the

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<v Speaker 4>person that was next to this weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a lot of good sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Came back and won.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, and the Winnipeg Jets told the Dell after

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<v Speaker 2>Miko Renton and had scored three goals a hat trick

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<v Speaker 2>in the final twelve minutes on Saturday night to propel

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<v Speaker 2>the Stars to a game seven win. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>next night Winnipeg said, hold my beer, Yeah we got you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see into that one? We got you. They're

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<v Speaker 2>they're down, Louis choke, They're down two goals with two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left, and Winnipeg scored with one fifty six left

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<v Speaker 2>to make it a one goal game, and then with

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<v Speaker 2>one point six seconds left they scored a goal to

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<v Speaker 2>force overtime, and then they won in the second overtime,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was deep in the second overtime. That's four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the Winnipeg Jets. I know because when I went

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<v Speaker 5>to my only Stars game and we talked about this recently,

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<v Speaker 5>they kicked out but for both nothing. Yeah and so,

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<v Speaker 5>but the Stars themselves, I can't see. I couldn't see

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<v Speaker 5>a team like that making such a turnaround in such

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<v Speaker 5>quick fashion. And then the most important part of the season,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, you're going into the playoffs and all of

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden they catch fire.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and it's interesting, yeah, because they were just

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<v Speaker 2>horrible and they were you know, you take it back

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago to the Rangers when they won the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series. They were horrible in early September, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden they call up Evan Carter who

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one year old, and he goes off and they

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<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs and then they win the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>And didn't hear the Stars are doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we bring it back to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Miko Rattnan was something else in the third period

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<v Speaker 4>in that game seven. They call them, They don't call

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<v Speaker 4>them moose for nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Miko magic.

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<v Speaker 3>Migo magic?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye?

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<v Speaker 2>We no longer have Luca magic.

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<v Speaker 3>This is yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened?

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<v Speaker 4>The guy that was going to save the world went

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<v Speaker 4>to l A and they got elimonade almost swept?

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<v Speaker 5>What the hell almost swept?

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<v Speaker 3>How did that happen?

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<v Speaker 5>A guy named Anthony Evans.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't guard him.

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<v Speaker 2>No man? All right, all right, So we also at

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend as well, Actually do.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys all attend the Rookie Mini camp?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was about to get there, Okay. Everson talked

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<v Speaker 2>about what a great Sports Weekend. It was when Scotti

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<v Speaker 2>Scheffler when the c J cub Byron Nelson Okay with

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<v Speaker 2>record set record tying fashion. Dak Prescott made an appearance

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<v Speaker 2>out at Texas Motor Speedway on Sunday. He did or

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<v Speaker 2>the NASCAR race. He was throwing footballs before the race

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<v Speaker 2>began out there. He didn't know the officials start your engines. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't that. I don't know. He was out there

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, Okay, and maybe he was just having fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great day for it. So and that

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<v Speaker 2>brings us now to the Rookie Mini.

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<v Speaker 4>Camp, which was basically one day and it was not

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<v Speaker 4>much more than a walk through practice my understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds like you weren't there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not there. That's why that's why we changed

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<v Speaker 3>this day of the of.

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<v Speaker 4>Mix shots from yesterday. I was out of town, so

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I was scouting Luke Combs.

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<v Speaker 3>Where was that New Orleans?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay jazz festival. Oh my daughter and son in law

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<v Speaker 2>were down there for the jazz festival.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I bumped into them in part of

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<v Speaker 4>five hundred thousand people that I think were there over

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<v Speaker 4>four days.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I asked, did I miss anything? And my

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<v Speaker 3>answer was no, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody I was here in town and I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was not going to miss anything, and so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come out here.

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<v Speaker 4>They had like nineteen guys out there working what were

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<v Speaker 4>they doing? Ten draft choices, nine or eight uh, rookie

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<v Speaker 4>free agents and one quarterback workout so they could have

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<v Speaker 4>quarterbacks there.

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan Smith, former Texas Tech reederator in Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>Houston, right, yeah, Houston. He started at Texas at Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but and they did not sign him, Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they did not.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a tryout.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had got to have somebody out there. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what it was more orientation, which is what has

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<v Speaker 2>become in recent years, which is what used to Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is our first opportunity to go see the rookies

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<v Speaker 2>out there, and then they would have like first year

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<v Speaker 2>guys who didn't get any playing time, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>would have more people out there, and whether they have

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen players out there, yeah, and then you've so they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't playing. They were basically going to just be a

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<v Speaker 2>walkthrough on Friday, they get they arrive on Thursday, they

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<v Speaker 2>get equipment and get checked in and stuff on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>they at meetings and all that, and then they had

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<v Speaker 2>a walk through that was going to be open and

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<v Speaker 2>a rain Cats and Dogs on Friday, and so then

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<v Speaker 2>it got delayed until so they just stayed inside and

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<v Speaker 2>they were setting up for the ACM Awards, so there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing inside Ford Center either for the media access anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first time then the media could get there

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<v Speaker 2>on the far field, the grass field was open, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they were able to go out there and run

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<v Speaker 2>around a little bit on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>And what did they do basically individual drills, position drills,

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of just orient the guys to maybe how

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to practice when they get to OTA's. It's

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<v Speaker 4>nothing like you're going to say, well, coach, what did

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<v Speaker 4>they look like? You know, well, they look like just

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<v Speaker 4>what we saw on film, so you know before they

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<v Speaker 4>go out there in practice.

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<v Speaker 5>That's because when guys get hurt, they didn't put much

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<v Speaker 5>value into the players. Then now the players the contracts

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<v Speaker 5>is so big you can't even risk getting them injured.

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<v Speaker 4>Right in practice, right and and and so the OTAs

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<v Speaker 4>don't start until I think two weeks, not this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Following back in the day, they would they would no,

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<v Speaker 4>they would go out there and practice. I remember I

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<v Speaker 4>remembered distinctly Patrick Creighton, seventh round draft choice, and he

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<v Speaker 4>came out here and Parcels was the head coach, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're practicing, you know, helmets, no pads, right, which is

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<v Speaker 4>worse because boys will be boys, right, You're gonna try hard.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have to dive for a ball, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>die for a ball. Well, he ended up with a

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<v Speaker 4>foot injury, and he came out and played practice the

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<v Speaker 4>next day, and the next day's limping through it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going, what do you think about? You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't go out there and do that. He goes, do

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<v Speaker 4>you think is a seventh round draft choice? If I

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<v Speaker 4>don't go out there with Bill Parcells as the head coach,

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<v Speaker 4>then I'm even gonna make it to training camp. And

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<v Speaker 4>he probably was right, And they used to get so

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<v Speaker 4>many soft tissue injuries. So I don't know, three four

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, they turned it into orientation because they knew

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<v Speaker 4>these guys, especially the draft choices, they've been on the

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<v Speaker 4>traveling circuit, right interviews, thirty visits combine. Then they're not

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<v Speaker 4>practicing football and they're probably not in great shape. I

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<v Speaker 4>can remember when they drafted. It was what twenty ten

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<v Speaker 4>des Bryant and you know, the first practice they come

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<v Speaker 4>out here, it's ninety degrees high humidity, and oh, dez Bryant,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy could make He's not in shape, he's pukin

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<v Speaker 4>and or non you know, but they're they're not ready

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<v Speaker 4>for So they finally backed off and said, let's be

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<v Speaker 4>smart about this and make sure we get guys in

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<v Speaker 4>shape before they go out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the veterans have been doing all their their workouts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys all they were working out was for the

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<v Speaker 3>draft and traveling all over the place. So they finally

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<v Speaker 3>got smart about it. So the O So back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day, you didn't even have that, did you.

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<v Speaker 5>We had you know, OTAs that was about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But they called it quarterback school.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, and so uh and of course we had

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<v Speaker 5>the rookies come in, uh and all rookies at the

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<v Speaker 5>same time. Yeah, we did have that. No veterans were there,

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<v Speaker 5>but Tony Hill came up there and one of somebody

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of wom them up.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about your rookie year, yes, so about how

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<v Speaker 2>many rookies were out there your rookie year. The first

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<v Speaker 2>time that you set foot. How many rookies was out

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<v Speaker 2>there with us hundred? Yeah, it was about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty five rookies.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically they were there trying out. Yeah, well most

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<v Speaker 2>of them signed the contract.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we had been signed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking is I just saw this. The Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers are hosting twenty two rookies and veterans for tryouts

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<v Speaker 2>at their Rookie Minute. Yeah, this week. So they got

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<v Speaker 2>they got a list of them all, and I see

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<v Speaker 2>one of them, bro Oklahoma, And I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>he bust have paid his old way down there for

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<v Speaker 2>the tryout, because.

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<v Speaker 5>But everything, everything has changed now because as players, we

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<v Speaker 5>weren't doing the right things. We were out there we

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<v Speaker 5>had OTAs would interrupt our road basketball schedule we had

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<v Speaker 5>in the off season. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>we're out there playing basketball. We're not caring about injuries.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't recall anyone getting injured doing any of

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<v Speaker 5>our basketball games.

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<v Speaker 2>I love those basketball games. I remember going out and

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<v Speaker 2>watching them at the University of Dallas. Yeah, play and you.

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<v Speaker 5>Knew who had who had game, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you give it, gave you a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more respect because you can do more than one sport. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought he was just a football player. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I just you know, doing three sixty slam.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Cowboys. Basketball did travel around the state. They Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said state because I remember coming out to Lubbock.

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<v Speaker 5>Is an easy ride. We take a drive down there.

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<v Speaker 5>We wouldn't catch a flight, but we had flights all over.

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<v Speaker 5>We go to New Mexico, Colorado, Ron Springs and I

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<v Speaker 5>did a game out there. We went to some Indian

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<v Speaker 5>nation in Colorado, window Rock Nation, window Rock Nation. We

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<v Speaker 5>went out there and got a sponsorship from him.

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<v Speaker 2>So who are the guys that played on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the off season basketball?

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<v Speaker 5>Teach everybody? Uh do what I said, Tony Hill, Ron

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<v Speaker 5>Springs too tall, everybody, Lockhart, Michael downs Manny Hendricks, Randy White,

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<v Speaker 5>Hell no.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everybody. I mean you didn't have a White point guard,

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<v Speaker 2>not a.

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<v Speaker 5>Point guard, but Brian Baldinger point guard. Yeah, and uh

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<v Speaker 5>Kevin Yeah he was an enforcer, which he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, we had the players, man, even croffor Kerr tried

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<v Speaker 5>to come out there and playing. We had them all.

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<v Speaker 5>We had them all. Nate no, never, Nate never played.

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<v Speaker 3>And they's like a you guys could have that big

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<v Speaker 3>big Daddy was out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Big Daddy was out there. Big Daddy had a ball.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, how much would y'all make off that?

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<v Speaker 5>We might get paid three hundred dollars a game? And

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<v Speaker 5>then when Ronn and I took over, we did better

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<v Speaker 5>because we started getting sponsors and we paid him a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>More like seven and the places you that was for charity.

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<v Speaker 5>So we would split the chair, split it with him.

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<v Speaker 5>We did the correct way. Uh, instead of just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>chump change, we made it into something that you know, well, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>could you just kind of make a little living off

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<v Speaker 5>that in the offseason because it wasn't making a whole

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of money. It's a bunch of free agents out

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<v Speaker 5>there a little bit some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were the days. Those were the days.

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<v Speaker 3>You weren't getting ten thousand dollars signing modus.

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<v Speaker 5>No, we weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would you play against?

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<v Speaker 5>They always had a charity that brought their own team.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that sounds good because we will whip all those

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<v Speaker 5>little kids, little guys, old guys got played in Texas

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<v Speaker 5>A and M football team. No, you did not whipped

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<v Speaker 5>our asses. I mean they had guys shooting three pointers

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<v Speaker 5>like Steph Curry and they ran us.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of there was no three pointers back then.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's how old do you think I am?

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<v Speaker 2>So the A and M was so that would be

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighties. So I wonder if Kevin Murray. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if Kevin Murray played now it was in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>he played to A and M.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would say, yeah, and those were the That

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<v Speaker 5>was the end of that. That's when I was about

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<v Speaker 5>to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the late eighties, late ladies, okay, wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I don't know who those guys were, but

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<v Speaker 5>they had this white dude that shout us out the gym.

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<v Speaker 5>They had this brother. They was about the same size,

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<v Speaker 5>same height, little point. They shot us out of the

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<v Speaker 5>gym and we started putting in the young guys.

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<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>It was somebody I'm sure had something.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that legal back then?

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<v Speaker 5>No, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Could the A n M coach be there to watch?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure they were there the whole everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was the old metal It was very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I covered one of the regionals they qualified for.

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<v Speaker 5>That was fun stuff. Yeah, they came out, they tore

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<v Speaker 5>us up. Pretty good. That's so pretty good. We played

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<v Speaker 5>the we played the Washington Wizards.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not, Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that the funny?

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<v Speaker 2>The team? You know, the general Marcus at the General Trotters,

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<v Speaker 2>Washington General.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he ended up, you know, separated from the Globe

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<v Speaker 5>Trotters and he started.

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<v Speaker 2>His own Marcus Marcus Haynes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, So he you know, did some games with us,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, they got a little nervous because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't want to be no damn Washington Generals. We

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to come out and kick their butts, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we actually you know, started playing. I mean, we got

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<v Speaker 5>some big guys on our team. So when you come

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<v Speaker 5>with some basketball players, they're not the accustomed to somebody

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<v Speaker 5>like Lockhart, who, yeah he's a middle linebacker, but he

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<v Speaker 5>also can shoot a little bit, you know, Michael Downs,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, yeah he's a free safety, but he can

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<v Speaker 5>sky and he can block your shots. So, you we

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<v Speaker 5>had athletes out there and we started winning. And when

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<v Speaker 5>you start winning against the team that's supposed to win,

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<v Speaker 5>they started stopping the game and okay, let's do our

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<v Speaker 5>little tricks. You see what I'm saying time, because we're

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<v Speaker 5>about to kick your butts.

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<v Speaker 2>So todar right.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing all the shots and then we lost the game

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<v Speaker 5>because they we had to let them do that. You know, man,

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<v Speaker 5>we were about to whoop the bus man. We're about

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<v Speaker 5>to whoop that.

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<v Speaker 2>But such a better time then, you know, And nobody

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<v Speaker 2>can have your home run derbys.

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<v Speaker 5>But be a nobody got hurt. Nobody got hurt. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>No one got hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they had too had something recently. I mean

0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 2>when t O was here. I had been right after

0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.960
<v Speaker 2>he retired, but he was there. There was a former

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Cowboy basketball celebrity game that was like ilvert one of

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<v Speaker 2>the high schools in Carrollton, maybe r'l Turner High School

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. I remember doing a live shot from there.

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<v Speaker 5>And and nobody cared about no one anticipated injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>Point.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember one of the female referees at that

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<v Speaker 2>gave She sees me and she says, I recognize you.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you.

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<v Speaker 2>You live in south Lake. I used to call games

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<v Speaker 2>in south Lake. You used to yell at e undergirls basketball. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that was some other white guy.

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<v Speaker 5>We all look like.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you know, I played in a age.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a charity flag football game against the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>It was for charity out at that stadium in Farmers Branch,

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<v Speaker 4>the big one stand stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Which Cowboys have worked out there before when there, yeah Branch.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not Standards the other one maybe it was what

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<v Speaker 4>yeah whatever, anyway, we played, Uh it was there was

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<v Speaker 4>a kind of a flag football league team that played

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<v Speaker 4>in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 3>Low's that's yeah, and we played.

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<v Speaker 4>They had their team and then brought in some media

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 4>people and I played, and they sent me out at cornerback, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So I line up, they break the huddle. Who comes

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<v Speaker 4>and lines up in front of.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, Bob Hayes, And I'm going, oh, you gotta be kid. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>this was at the end. This was at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean his career was this had to be eighty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>He could barely run, right, And I was like, this

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 4>is depressing because I could run better than him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But they put Bob Hayes on me, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then at the end of the game, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>realize this was a whole setup that they were supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to win, right, and We're trying hard, and I broke

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<v Speaker 4>up a Roger Staubach pass in the end zone to

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<v Speaker 4>Drew and I thought I was cool, Right, So they

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<v Speaker 4>set it up the next possession that they had to

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<v Speaker 4>They had to come down and win, right, And so

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<v Speaker 4>they have me cover Drew and it's like everybody quit

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<v Speaker 4>but me because they had to score the winning touchdown, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And we get to the end zone, stallback passes coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I see it. I'm getting ready to jump, and Drew puts.

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<v Speaker 4>His hand on my shoulder, shoves me into the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>catches the wind like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Eddie spikes it and they all they beat us.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and I'm going, okay, I get it. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a setup.

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<v Speaker 5>They treated you like Everson Walls out there. Man, that's

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<v Speaker 5>a damn shot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Put his hand on my shoulder and shove me to

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd.

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<v Speaker 5>now at seat geek dot com. I thought you said

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<v Speaker 5>was going to be on the show. Who said that?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I was just trying to get you to

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, do you think she's out in one of those trailers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's waiting. I don't think so. All right, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to get to first? Here?

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<v Speaker 3>You got any draft leftovers that stuck out to you? Ask?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll to give you my impression. Someone asked me

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<v Speaker 2>the other day who in this draft class for the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys do you think we'll make the besides Tyler Booker

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<v Speaker 2>will make the biggest impact his rookie season. And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think long, and I just I said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the second round pick is going to make a huge impact,

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<v Speaker 2>Right is rookie season?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan is a roku.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we're talking uh leading the Acs, well, leading

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<v Speaker 4>the nation with sixteen and a half sacks.

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<v Speaker 2>He also had eighty tackles.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, which is even more impressive when you're looking for

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<v Speaker 4>a defensive end to replace DeMarcus Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what they do. That's what he does.

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<v Speaker 4>He can play the run, which is gonna be ultimately

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<v Speaker 4>important for this team. I think Blue is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be and I think and that's my guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Blue.

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<v Speaker 4>As a matter of fact, I saw I had read

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<v Speaker 4>prior to the draft and before to Shire choice went

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<v Speaker 4>to Detroit, he was still at Texas, and he's the

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<v Speaker 4>guy that recruited Blue. He was the running back coach,

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<v Speaker 4>and he basically compared him to Jamar Gibbs. And he

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<v Speaker 4>actually came out and I saw the quote and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>speed wise, Blue is very similar to Jamar Gibbs because

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 4>he's fast and he can catch the ball out of

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<v Speaker 4>the backfill. And so if I had to compare anybody

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<v Speaker 4>to his body type, it's Gibbs. They look a little

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<v Speaker 4>different and how they play. But the more Blue matures,

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 4>he has a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>To be better than Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 2>And when did to Shard say, before the draft, before

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>before he went to before he became a Detroit Lion. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>coach coaching Jamir Gibbs. Yes, Now, he had coached Jamir

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs in college though too, at Georgia Tech.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So yeah, so he knew Gibbs and that's who

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 4>he blew he compared to. So this guy, he's got

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<v Speaker 4>some talent now, just got to hold out into the

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 4>football and you know, and and of course that's all anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Can say about him. Well he put the ball, he

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 3>lost four fumbles. Okay, I get it.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>But but Longhorn fans will tell you they were it

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>was when he lost the football.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I got you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, but like anything else, I'm assuming that limiting your

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 5>fumbles is something that can be coached out of you.

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Like technique. He said it was technical, his technique on

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 3>holding the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not something that you know, it's just

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 5>in hamming. I have to fumble again, you know, Yeah,

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 5>that that can be you know, coached out of you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll take my chance out on four to three

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<v Speaker 3>eight exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Well and once again go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one thing I was going to keep in mind

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>on Blue too, there's a lot of tread left on

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>those tires. He did not play his senior year in

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 2>high school to focus on getting ready for college for

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, so he didn't have any carries that year.

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Then he's playing behind Vjeon Robinson and then Jonathan Brooks

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>at Texas or he's in rotation by his second year there.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>So his first year there he only carried fifteen times.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>So now you've gone two seasons without really putting much

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>wear and tear on you at all. Then in twenty

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty three he had fourteen games, no start, sixty five

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 2>carries for three hundred ninety eight yards six point one

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>yards of carry. And then finally this year he became

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>more of a workhorse, but it was still in hand

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>him in seven hundred and thirty yards and forty two

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>catches and had fourteen touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 5>Could you imagine the diversity that they would give us

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 5>if this guy, yeah, was able to play and come

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 5>out of the backfield. And I always think about him

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 5>being you come out with two running backs, but yet

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 5>you can shift put him in the slot. Next thing,

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, we're not running the ball. You know we're

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 5>passing the ball. We catch the defense off guard, you

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 5>catch a mismatch from someone who's trying to guard him.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 5>She's gonna be a linebacker going to try and guard

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 5>him if he's at the slot or running out of

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 5>the backfield. You can do so much with this guy,

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 5>And once again I worry about us not having enough

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 5>wide receivers with enough experience or if nothing else, we

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 5>don't have any mismatches at the slot position when you're

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 5>talking about the wide receivers that we have. He can

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 5>create that mismatch for us, right depending on how they

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 5>want to use him. And that's what I'm excited about.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 5>This guy can come out of the backfield and make

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 5>plays for us, especially on those third downs where we

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 5>got to move the chains. Not only that catch them

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 5>in on goal line, the mismatches there can be exploited

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 5>so much.

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Think if if they have him on the field as

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 4>the same time at the same time of Cavante Turpe,

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 4>there you go and you don't have And one of

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 4>the questions we had to answer this week on Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>Cowboys dot com uh in our mail bag, and it's

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 4>not going to appear till tomorrow, but was the Cowboys

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 4>that everybody's making a big deal out of they don't

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 4>have a number two receiver. The question was, but don't

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 4>you think there's enough combinations of other receivers that can

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 4>make up for it. My answer was, they do, but

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 4>they don't have a experienced, start game starting wide receiver

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 4>to take the pressure off of off of set LAMB.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 4>But the alternative is maybe I can do it with

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 4>speed because Turpin may not have the experience. Blue no

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 4>NFL experience, but guess what, you still got to cover them, right.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 4>It's it's the old Jimmy Johnson deal on Alexander Wright,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 4>and you know everybody's talking about, well, you know he's fast, but.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 3>You know he's he's not a really good ride receiver.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>And Jimmy's answer was, well, yeah, but you never know

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 4>when he's gonna catch one, he will be open and.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Then he's gone.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 4>So they can maybe offset that lack of experience at

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 4>the number two or number three receiver with guys that

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 4>have speed.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little something for you. I'm just comparing Jaden

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Blue and Jamier Gibbs. They both come into the came

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>into the league at age twenty one. They both are

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Blue at the combine five nine, one hundred and ninety

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>six pounds Gibbs five nine, one hundred and ninety nine pounds.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Blue ran a four to three eight and Gibbs ran

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a four to three six, and in their last year

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>of college, Blue had one hundred and thirty four carries

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>averaging five and a half yards of carry eight touchdowns.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Gibbs at Alabama is a lone year at Alabama, one

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty one carries, six yards of carry, seven touchdowns.

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Blue had forty two catches out of the backfield six

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>touchdowns and Gibbs had forty four catches three touchdowns out

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of the backfield. Almost identical stats there last year on

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>teams that played deep into the College Football Playoff.

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 4>And with a guy like that, you're not going to

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 4>wear them out as a workhorse, right, You're gonna spot

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 4>them right.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Or use them.

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's what like what Gibbs he goes to Detroit

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>with David Montgomery and.

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 3>And what about pace?

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 4>If you think about it, when Paul was so successful,

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 4>it was a change of pace between how Zeke ran

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 4>and how he ran. And you tell me, do you

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>get used to a running back speed and then they

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 4>bring in another guy and all of a sudden, he's

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 4>a step or two faster.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 5>Man. That's tough. That's tough. It's tough for covering why

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 5>running backs period. In the passing game, it's hard for

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 5>a defensive back, a cornerback to cover a running back

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 5>with a lot of moves in the slot.

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>And plus you can't get your hands on him. If

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 3>he lines up in the backfield right he gets a

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 3>running start, he does, and that's.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 5>Very difficult, very difficult, even as a strong safety coming

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 5>down free safety, very difficult to cover a running back

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 5>come out of the back.

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>And you probably can't do it with a linebacker.

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, you can't do it, no doubt about it.

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 5>And that's where the mismatch is gonna come in for us.

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 5>And so when you start talking about a mismatch in

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 5>one area, then you can exploit it in another area,

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 5>but it won't be down the field. You got we

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 5>got tight ends and it can catch the ball. We

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 5>got tight ends that can really catch the ball, but

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 5>they're not going down the field. But when it comes

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 5>to moving the chains, we can move the chains with

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 5>what we have right now. My problem is can one

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 5>of those wide receivers step up and still give CD

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 5>a chance on the other side, Because you can go

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 5>running back tight ends all you want. If you need

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 5>big plays, you're gonna have to get another wide receiver

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 5>that can do that. I don't mean do it consistently, right,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 5>but at least at least have that second option other

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.959
<v Speaker 5>than having CD going down the field.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 4>You have you have to have a wide receiver out there.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 4>The defense respects another one.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if we have that. I don't know

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 5>if we right now.

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna take their chances as it is, don't you

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 4>think at the wide receiver position to add to that.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 5>And they've got they have a science one yet and

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 5>there that's that time is really if it hadn't went

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 5>out already, that time is really is. They're still away.

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 3>A couple of guys out there.

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, a couple of guys. And there's a reason

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:10.439
<v Speaker 5>there's still a couple of guys out.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 4>There, well, one of two reasons. Either they're at the end,

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 4>or they're actually wanting too much money.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Or it could be that they don't want to come

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>here right now. They look still early May, right right.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like an Aaron Rodgers thing. Okay, Aaron

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers is sitting there like, Okay, do I myself, at

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>age forty whatever he is, do I want to go

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 2>to Pittsburgh in May? Or would I just as soon

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>go in June and get by me another month here

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>of freedom?

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 5>These wims are out there, there are no Aaron Rods.

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm saying Amari Cooper.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I just want that. But I'm just luxury to think that, right,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 5>They don't have that luxury.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's only a certain number of teams that are

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>bidding for their services and so and but here's the

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>other thing to think about. Teams can there are acl

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>injuries that can happen in May and so someone like

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>an Amari Cooper sitting there, why would I settle for

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 2>now when just give it a little.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 5>Bit of time. You'd better be ready when you come right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, because the desperation, the desperation factor will go

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 4>up if you lose a wide.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Receiver and it's like, okay, now you're going to have

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>to pay me this, right, But you'd.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 5>Better come in ready to go. Yeah, No, you'd better

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 5>come in ready to go. And I don't know what

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 5>veterans think like nowadays in regards to these critical positions.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 5>Do are they practicing? Who are they practicing with? You

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 5>know what quarterback are you practicing with out there? I

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 5>know you're not practicing against a dB or anything. But

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 5>while you're out there waiting, and I know you got

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 5>experience because you're that particular age. But man, when you

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 5>come in here as a as an experienced professional. You

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 5>gotta be ready to go. We don't have ramp up

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 5>time now, we don't have that.

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 3>And like they have in training.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>And how about this from the from the team's perspective,

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>this is an opportunity to see what they have with

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>these guys. How much have these guys improved that they

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 2>have on their own?

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 5>And that's that's nothing. You know, I don't know much

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 5>about how the wide receivers are in this camp or

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 5>any other camp. When I you know, back in the day,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 5>you had wide receivers that were really looking to not

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 5>just make the team. They were their thoughts were on starting,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 5>Their thoughts were on getting on that field, not to

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 5>just be a guy playing special team. Now they had

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 5>to play special teams. They get out there and try

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 5>to ball out. But the point was, I'm going to

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 5>put pressure on the guy in front of me. Do

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 5>you have anyone out there that has made an impression

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 5>to where somebody said, I see improvement, I see him

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.760
<v Speaker 5>being better than last year. They got to show me somebody.

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me give you a fairly recent example,

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>although it's becoming less recent than as the years go by.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Is there a Miles Austin out there. Think about Miles

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Austin when he came here and just looked up his

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 2>stats from his first year in two thousand and six,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>he didn't get in at any He played in nine games,

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 2>nothing on, no snaps on offense. Seven His second year,

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 2>he had played sixteen games, all on special teams. Ten targets,

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 2>five receptions. Third year eight twenty three targets, thirteen receptions.

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until his fourth year in the NFL in

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine he had the first of back

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>to back Pro Bowl seasons eighty one reception.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 5>And he's lucky?

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Is there someone lucky stuck around?

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Is there someone that's developing behind the scenes here who

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>can improve to the point where they can be a

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>number two wide receipt? That's and that's one of the

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 2>things that you start to kind of figure out as

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you go along here. I mean, even though like some

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 2>name specs, well, I mean Ryan Illinois won the sixth

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>round pick last year.

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 3>The other leading candidate would be.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Tolbert, which you've seen actually led the team with

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>seven touchdown.

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so by mentioning Ryan FLLINOI yeah, that's the

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.479
<v Speaker 2>guy that's off everybody's radar.

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>He's the Miles Austin.

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And is there someone

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>like that who can develop into a number two receiver

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>like Miles Austin did, Because you remember when Miles in

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>those off seasons before before he emerged as a legitimate

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>starting wide receiver in the league. Remember Romo talking about him.

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Romo would talk about, there's one guy that he had

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>high hopes for.

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 4>He saw his speed and it didn't erupt until that

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 4>Kansas City game when maybe Owens was hurt, somebody was hurt.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 4>He had to play and he erupts. But before that, yeah,

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 4>he was special teams kick return guy.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 5>You know what. The guy that I'm always thinking about

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 5>is Toba. Yeah, and he stepped up. Yes, he caught

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 5>some touchdown.

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I know, I get that, but you got to be conceited.

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 5>I gotta see you what I got to move that

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 5>chain when it's you know, two minutes to go, under

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 5>two minutes to go, and I need a third and seventeen.

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 5>Can you get that for me?

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, and to that point on Tobert, if you go

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 2>back and look at his college career, it took him

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years at South Alabama before he became

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he was a late bloomer, okay, and.

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm all about that.

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 2>And so so it was his third He was a

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>five year guy I think at South Alabama. But it

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 2>went until his last two years where he emerged. And

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>so now he's going into his fourth season, okay. So,

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 2>and he showed a lot of progress from his first

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>year to his second year. I mean he went from

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>his first year he had two catches for twelve yards,

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>three targets, eight games. His second year in twenty twenty

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 2>three thirty six targets, twenty two or okay, got a

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 2>lot more opportunities last year without the starting quarterback for

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>much of the season, seventy nine targets, forty nine catches,

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 2>six hundred ten yards, and seven touchdowns. So that's real progress. Now,

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>is Jalen Tolbert ready to take that next step to

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 2>be the number two guy? And this is that this

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>has to be the year and it him and that

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>is his fourth year, and that follows the Miles Austin.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.720
<v Speaker 2>It was his fourth year where he was he became

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>what he became. What was his rookie year was six six.

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and see when you look at the Miles Austin

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 5>versus Tobert. First of all, there's a bit of a

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 5>size different. Yeah, that's right, so and that that doesn't

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 5>bother me as much. But if you play small, then

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 5>that is a problem. If you have a tendency not

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 5>to be able to get off the jam, yeah, that

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 5>is a problem if you're that small. But you can

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 5>still get off the jam. I don't care how small

0:41:58.000 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 5>you are. If you can get off the jam and

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 5>make plays, then that's the kind of guy we need.

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how well he is, because when it's

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 5>crunch time, every defense in the NFL knows that if

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 5>they get up in our faces, our wide receivers don't

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 5>play as well.

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 3>That's why there's speed guys need to take.

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 5>That's why you gotta get off.

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, here's what Miles Austin had over You mentioned

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the size. Okay, he was two hundred and fifteen pounds

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and Tolbert came in one hundred and ninety five pounds. Okay,

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it's that explosion that Austin had. I mean, we're talking

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 2>a forty vertical guy, same speed at time, speed at

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>his pro day and combined four four nine for both

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 2>of them. But Austin had that athletic Sober.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 5>I saw Toba get up for a couple of touchsdown

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 5>whether we talk.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what it's probably, but I'm

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 2>just that's what put Miles Austin over the top athletics.

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 5>And I'm asking because not so because tobas going to

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 5>need something like that hasn't made to say, Okay, I can.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Depend Toober's a thirty six vertical guy. That's what he was.

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>So my favorite Miles Austin story is rookie year.

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 4>We're at training camp and I was over there in

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 4>our little work area and ox Nerd and Parcells is

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 4>sitting on his his golf cart.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, we're sitting there shooting the breeze. Miles Austin comes

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>walking up.

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Parcels looks like this poor rookie, right, and he goes, hey, Austin,

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 4>are you blankety blank smart? Just like that, and Miles goes, well, yeah, coach,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 4>well what was.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Your SAT score?

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 5>What he had?

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he had some answer for it, right,

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and Parcells who well, that's impressive he would even yeah

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 3>right right, that's suppresser. And then he goes so and

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 3>they were both from the same area. Yeah, they were

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 3>both neighborhood.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Whatever did you get ice cream at such and such?

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Austin grew up in Garfield, New Jersey.

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Was just trying to intimidate him, right, and and and

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 3>the kid kind of hung in there, but it was like,

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, and his mind's going, what the hell? And

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there, I'm just thoroughly amused.

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, Parcels, Parcels is sitting there. Let's see if he's

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>really a Jersey.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:42.279
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0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.760
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<v Speaker 4>agents might have stuck out to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, come on, he's doing the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Trey Shawn Holden Wide receiver from Oregon who played

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<v Speaker 2>four junior adam Boys receiver that was resignated with me

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<v Speaker 2>resignated resonates you he didn't resign.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the Rivaldo Fairweather, the tight end from

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Auburn who transferred there.

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<v Speaker 5>And transferred from where he was like if I you

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<v Speaker 5>I f I.

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<v Speaker 2>U okay set the Auburn single season record for catches

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<v Speaker 2>by a tight end and program history with thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>and six touchdown those history.

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<v Speaker 3>How about the corner mark that the cornerback from Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Just challenge me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to come up with it all oh man,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but aur did Barkley play football? He would have

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<v Speaker 3>been not playing football.

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<v Speaker 2>He would tell you he'd never I'm going to to cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find one. Okay, talk making.

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<v Speaker 4>Zion Zion Childress cornerback from your eye, just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>looking at what he had done. He played multiple positions,

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 4>played in the slot. Uh no, and if I remember correctly,

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 4>give me this, well.

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>You're looking that up found Ai just I said, I

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>put in best Auburn tight end AI overview. The most

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 2>highly regarded tight end in Auburn history is considered to

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>be Walter Reeves. It was two times All America A

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>known for his exceptional blocking abilities, excelling and run focused offense.

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 5>Just think a tight ends.

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 2>He thought that nineteen eighty seven and eighty eight, Walter Reeves.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.959
<v Speaker 2>I thought we're talking sixties, so I'm still looking.

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 5>Go ahead.

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 4>Zion Zion Childress, two time team captain, started twenty five

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 4>straight games at the nickel position.

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Supposed to have top speed special teams.

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 5>Nicol is a playmaking of.

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 4>As matter of fact, they started his career at Texas

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 4>State before he transferred to Kentucky in twenty twenty two. So, uh,

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 4>that caught my eye. We talked about our last showed

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Tyler Neville. Yes, the tight the tight end from Virginia Harvard.

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 4>His whole story, Yes, so you know he had a

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:51.280
<v Speaker 4>pretty good story. And then there's another cornerback from rock Rockwell,

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 4>Heath Bruce Harmon.

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Ran a four four four forty Norman Rockwell. It's hard

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 3>to well, I was really asking about.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's a town called rock Wall.

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 5>Somewhere around here.

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 3>And his name is Harmon. Get all the ages in there,

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 3>we can uh that one. That one caught my eye.

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 4>So uh, but the Oregon wide receiver Trey Uh, Trey

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Shawn Holden. Uh, they would have had inside information on him.

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Played at Oregon. His coach for two years there was

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 4>Junior Adams, now the Cowboys wide receiver coach.

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 2>And he's, by the way, is very confident. Dimensions six

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 2>two five, ran A four five seven.

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 3>All big, honorable man.

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, he started his career at Alabama. He was at

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Alabama for three years and then Oregon. In the last

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>two years. Uh and had thirty seven catches in twenty

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 2>three with bo Nick's throwing to him, uh in six touchdowns,

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and last year with Dylan Gabriel throwing to him, he

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 2>had forty three catches, five touchdowns, sixteen and a half

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 2>yards to catch. I said, he's very confident. He thinks

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that he was the best receiver in the draft.

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Just ask him, Wow, was that was in his interview

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 3>when he got here?

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:16.399
<v Speaker 5>Was he wrong?

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 2>He calculated Quinn yours thought he was so, and so

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.800
<v Speaker 2>they got a chance to prove it right right the

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>other ever, since you thought you were the best cornerback

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 2>in the draft too, exactly, So there you go, perfect example.

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I was, and you were perfect example and you went undrafted.

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Damn right, Yeah, Trey Shaun Holden Quinn, yours listened to

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Everson Walls. You can be the best any other cornerback

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 2>in the draft.

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Stand out in there.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 5>Right, Oh yeah, right, decent career university, of course. But

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 5>he moved to safety after after the strike. You in

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.839
<v Speaker 5>eighty two he moved and that was eighty one to said, yeah,

0:52:58.840 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 5>but he was eighty one class.

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:03.479
<v Speaker 2>You know you've you've arrived when you can just say

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Ronnie and everybody knows you you're talking about. It's like

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you just say Everson and everyone knows.

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Right, Yeah, that's the unusual name. Ronnie. Yeah, you could

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 5>pick a lot of Ronnie's, but you know who we're

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 5>talking about.

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Just like when you say the name Walter, you think

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest tight end in Auburn history, and it's

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 2>now a consensus. I looked it up and according to

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>the Bleacher Report team, it's Walter Reeves. It's the he

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.399
<v Speaker 2>was a two time All American and second round draft pick.

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 5>If I hear Walter, that's not the Walter, I'm going Okay,

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 5>that ain't the one.

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Walter Reeves sounds like this. It's not like the hospital

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 4>it does medical center. Okay, So my next question to you, guys,

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 4>is we talked about wide receiver. What other position do

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.360
<v Speaker 4>you think is unfinished.

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>For the cornerback? Cornerback, corner back, cornerback.

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Just the top of my list, cornerback, because you have

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Deron Bland, you have Trayvon Diggs whose medical issue with

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 4>that cartilage problem and it wasn't like torn.

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 3>There was a divot in it and they had to

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 3>fill it in. And who knows if he'll be ready

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 3>for Sorry, we can't put.

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 5>Him on the list, right, We can't put him on

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:32.399
<v Speaker 5>the list.

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 3>So we got if he is great, I doubt it,

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 3>but he's now.

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 4>My understanding is while he's not rehabbing here, he's rehabbing

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:51.480
<v Speaker 4>in Lord with somebody they're very familiar with, and they

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 4>are understanding is it's going well. But again, until you

0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 4>get your hands on him yourself, you don't. And when

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.759
<v Speaker 4>they say going, well, what is the doing what he's

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be?

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? But does there hoping does that speed up his return? Oh?

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, or leave it at what it's supposed

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 4>to be because its chances are he's going to start

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:20.280
<v Speaker 4>training camp at Pop on Pop is able to perform.

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 4>You're hoping he's ready for the start of the season. Uh,

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's when you say it's going well,

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 4>so you're hopeful for that. But even said that, there's

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 4>no guarantee he's the same guy after suffering those back

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 4>to back injuries knee injuries.

0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 5>So what other names we have?

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 3>All Right?

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:47.320
<v Speaker 4>So I got Doron Bland Diggs, Caylin Carson who was

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 4>pretty good until he hurt his shoulder and then he

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 4>just kind of faded.

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 5>And how's he looking.

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:53.919
<v Speaker 3>So he's back.

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 4>I believe he had the shoulder surgery repaired and he's

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 4>back now, so he should be ready to go. You

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 4>traded for career veteran guy two years in the league,

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 4>but he was a high draft choice and Buffalo was

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:15.800
<v Speaker 4>ready to let him go.

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 3>God Booth, who you.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:27.360
<v Speaker 4>Know they traded switched uh Shawn Wright for and Nayshaun

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Wright just got released and he was on the practice

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 4>squad and Booth was he was one of those guys

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 4>when he had to play.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 3>You were going, I don't know Josh Butler, so.

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 2>You would feel Josh Butler's coming off in a c A.

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You got you got uh knee injuries at cornerback. Butler

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:51.399
<v Speaker 2>the first round of the third round pick Revel as

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 2>well as Diggs. And I was going to feel and

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel much better about the cornerback position in November,

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.879
<v Speaker 2>and I do it September. Yeah, you got to get

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 2>to November.

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And and because everyone you're call him out here,

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 5>you know it's a contingency.

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:12.799
<v Speaker 4>Revel will probably start training camp on Pop. But they're

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 4>hopeful just because doctor Cooper did the surgery that they

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 4>know as much about his uh situation as they can.

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 4>And he was here doing his rehab at a rehab

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 4>place in in the Dallas Fort Worth area and just

0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 4>and listening to him, and he's an outside corner.

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, this kid is chomping at the bit to

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 3>get back out there. So that's what you have. Do

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 3>you need?

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 3>A veteran.

0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Ye Gilmore?

0:57:55.480 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, And you're gonna have to decide what you

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 4>can afford. Yeah, because Gilmore is like thirty five, ye thirty.

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Six, that's fine. He's in great shape. And and and

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>you you might just need for apph a season. You know,

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 2>you get these guys back, right, and you know you'll

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 2>have injuries just get me to but you just got it.

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:18.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a long season and you get them.

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 3>So, and what's today Today's so I look at it.

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 2>You complete the roster?

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that I was gonna say, got to get

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 4>through those first four or five games. Well, we don't

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 4>know what they are, but we will on May fourteenth,

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 4>by a.

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Week from tomorrow. Yeah, And whether it's signing them now

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>or signing them in June, whatever, they need to sign

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a Stephan Gilmore and a an Amari Cooper or a

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Keenan Allen. Which which pair do you like?

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 5>I like Cooper?

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Cooper and Gilmore.

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 5>We're familiar, man. Yeah, it's all about both of them. Yeah,

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 5>they just sound like low hanging fruit to me.

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Really, Now, what about backup quarterback number two guy? You

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 4>trusting what they have right now?

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I would like a veteran guy in here.

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 4>He's just saying, though, absolutely, and there's a couple out there.

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.760
<v Speaker 4>I just want somebody that has started more than one

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 4>game in the well, no, two games, two games, started

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 4>two games, but that was twenty nineteen.

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>CJ. Bethard.

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So Will.

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 5>Gear has been around here since twenty nineteen.

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:38.280
<v Speaker 3>I believe so, I believe.

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Well I remember that. I mean he's only been here

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 2>most recently since December first because he was let go.

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 2>He was with the Eagles because he was with Kelling Moore.

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 2>He was let go and or and picked up.

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I think he started those two games with Carolina.

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he did with Carolina. He started two games early

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in his career.

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 5>But that's it.

0:59:58.920 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Years old.

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 5>He's been on thirty years old and nice boy, he's

1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 5>just can chill and just kind of.

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 2>But he's been more practice squad than he hadn't been

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Chase Daniel on a fifty three man roster making that

1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of money.

1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Chase Daniels, that's what most of the boy for quarterbacks

1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:16.400
<v Speaker 4>that lasted without having to start.

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, must be nice.

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Which I heard his funny story. The first time he

1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 3>started was Kansas City.

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 4>It was Christmas. I think they tried calling him on

1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Christmas Eve and they couldn't get hold. He was with

1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 4>his family, right and finally he looks at his phone

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.480
<v Speaker 4>and it's a call from Kansas City. He's wondering what

1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:41.720
<v Speaker 4>the hell and they said, whoever was starting at that

1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 4>point is hurt and you're starting tomorrow.

1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 2>That was his first four A and NFL funny story

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 2>on Mickey and Chase Daniel. Because Chase went to Missouri. Yeah,

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Mickey's alma mater. We did a high school football game

1:00:58.040 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 2>at Texas City.

1:00:58.760 --> 1:00:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Playoff game.

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:02.440
<v Speaker 2>It was a playoff game south Lake Carrol versus Denton Ryan,

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and we were broadcasting on the Cowboys Channel whatever and

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 2>seen by no one. So Vicky before the Gabe, he

1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:17.720
<v Speaker 2>knew that this quarterback from South Lake had was signing

1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:20.400
<v Speaker 2>with committed Missouri. He had committed to Missouri, so he

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:22.480
<v Speaker 2>had to go check him out and just see how

1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 2>tall he was. And so Mickey goes down on the field,

1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:30.240
<v Speaker 2>it measures himself against Chase Daniel just to see if

1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 2>he might be tall enough to play college.

1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:35.280
<v Speaker 3>And my result was I'm skeptical.

1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:38.320
<v Speaker 2>And he turns out and he turned out being the

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:39.960
<v Speaker 2>best quarterback Missouri he's ever had.

1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.560
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know how many years later, but he

1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:43.240
<v Speaker 3>was here.

1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Basically doing a golf tournament to raise money for Missouri,

1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:53.800
<v Speaker 4>and I was doing the ceremony afterwards, awards ceremony, hosting it,

1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:57.240
<v Speaker 4>and I told that story about I said, yeah, I was.

1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Really worried he was too short. He stated next to me,

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:02.680
<v Speaker 3>he got out of his tipping topes to show that

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:03.840
<v Speaker 3>he was taller than me.

1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Here right, Uh, and he said, I'm too short.

1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and he was.

1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 4>He put he put Missouri football on it, no doubt,

1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:16.520
<v Speaker 4>and put it the university on the map in this

1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:20.320
<v Speaker 4>area because all of a sudden people understood what the

1:02:20.440 --> 1:02:24.200
<v Speaker 4>logo was and started going just the general school there.

1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:29.240
<v Speaker 4>So my point was, whoever's in his family automatically gets

1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:31.040
<v Speaker 4>a scholarship to University of Missouri.

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 5>Fends favorite quarterback. Really, yes, Chase stands name.

1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 3>He's doing some broadcasting, he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing a good job broadcasting too, South of Lake Son.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, they produced broadcasters there, Greg Greig McElroy too, Bill Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that does it. And uh, our thanks to producer

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Chris Beam, who did not have to interject anything

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<v Speaker 2>into today's show and catch us on anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We were on our own.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have to correct us, didn't correct us. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to overtime, all right, back to our regular time, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Everson.

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<v Speaker 5>That's gonna be Monday at eleven o'clock right here on

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<v Speaker 5>mickshot O Cowboys.

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