1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: This is nick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot com 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: And here we are on a Tuesday afternoon at two 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: o'clock for a special edition of Mixed Shots. As there 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: are not football players on the football field, there are 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: r v's on the football field, right, trailers on the 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: trailers on the field. Because we are getting you ready 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: for the big event on Thursday night, Right, Mickey spagne We're. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: Gonna preview the ACMs. 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Might have a special guest you 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: have the Have the stars arrived yet for it? 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Just I haven't seen anybody, so we'll have to settle 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: for ever Walls instead. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Hello, Eversin. Has nothing to do with the draft, nothing 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the draft, and nothing to do 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: with the ACM Awards either. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 5: I can read it for you though when my time comes. 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll look forward to that. 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: Tickets still available according to this yes. 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: All right? 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Hate ever since did you grow up in Hamilton Park 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: A big country and western fan. 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 5: I did not, but uh, the uncles and my family, yeah, 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 5: all of them with cowboys that from East Texas. 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: Uh huh so my before country cool. 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 5: My mom's oldest brother, uh Fay Armstrong. He was a 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: good baseball player, but he was also he rode horses 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: and the cutting. 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Cut cutting horse. Yeah, j Novichik specially. 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: He could do that. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: He did that did my way bring it back to 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: cowboys there, that's. 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 5: Right, top cowboys. But now he he was very good 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: at that, and you know, after a while he started 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: getting you know, when you get older, you know, stuff 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: started messing with his legs and so he couldn't ride anymore. 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: But he gave me his uh the rubber things hook 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 5: onto the saddle and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: obviously that that tradition didn't make it down to our generation. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: The rains, the rains. 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, but they wouldn't know. The rains is 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 5: when you when you ride it. But this is the stirrups. Now, 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: this is the stuff that you strapped things down with 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 5: all the back. 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Okay, so now your past knowledge, yeah, it basically it 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: was straps. 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: It was straps. I ended up getting some of those, 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 5: but no, he was very good at that. 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 5: You know, black folk has been doing cowboy stuff for 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: so long. My family was one of the one of 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: the ones that were doing it out in East Texas. 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: But I didn't even like horses. Horses scare me because 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: if a horse hits you with his head. Yep. 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: My wife loves horses. 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: But I think I scare horses because they don't listen 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: to me. 62 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 5: Well, at least they let you get on. 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like people. People don't listen. 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: That's right, right, not enough. But I prepared for the 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: a c MS this weekend because you did. I saw 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: Luke Combes. 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: By the way, okay, what position does he play? 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Uh, center field in the band? Right in the middle, 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: that's drum then yeah, no, the drummers are all in 70 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: the back. 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, very good. It looks like you're 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: prepared for mix shots too, not one, not two, not three, 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: but four. 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Can't remember stuff, I can recall it. 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: And you got and by the way, you got your 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: hockey beard going too. 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: I did. 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: Boy, that was something I think I woke up the 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: person that was next to this weekend. 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: It was a lot of good sports. 81 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Came back and won. 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and the Winnipeg Jets told the Dell after 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: Miko Renton and had scored three goals a hat trick 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: in the final twelve minutes on Saturday night to propel 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: the Stars to a game seven win. And then the 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: next night Winnipeg said, hold my beer, Yeah we got you. 87 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Did you see into that one? We got you. They're 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: they're down, Louis choke, They're down two goals with two 89 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: minutes left, and Winnipeg scored with one fifty six left 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: to make it a one goal game, and then with 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: one point six seconds left they scored a goal to 92 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: force overtime, and then they won in the second overtime, 93 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: and it was deep in the second overtime. That's four 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: minutes left. 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: That's the Winnipeg Jets. I know because when I went 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 5: to my only Stars game and we talked about this recently, 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 5: they kicked out but for both nothing. Yeah and so, 98 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: but the Stars themselves, I can't see. I couldn't see 99 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 5: a team like that making such a turnaround in such 100 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 5: quick fashion. And then the most important part of the season, 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 5: of course, you're going into the playoffs and all of 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: a sudden they catch fire. 103 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: You know, and it's interesting, yeah, because they were just 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: horrible and they were you know, you take it back 105 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: two years ago to the Rangers when they won the 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: World Series. They were horrible in early September, and then 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden they call up Evan Carter who 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: twenty one year old, and he goes off and they 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: make the playoffs and then they win the World Series. 110 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: And didn't hear the Stars are doing the same thing. 111 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: And now we bring it back to the Cowboys. 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: Because Miko Rattnan was something else in the third period 113 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: in that game seven. They call them, They don't call 114 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: them moose for nothing. 115 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: It was Miko magic. 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: Migo magic? 117 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 5: Is that what it is? 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Now? 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Ye? 120 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: We no longer have Luca magic. 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: This is yeah. 122 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: What happened? 123 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: The guy that was going to save the world went 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: to l A and they got elimonade almost swept? 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: What the hell almost swept? 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: How did that happen? 127 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: A guy named Anthony Evans. 128 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't guard him. 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: No man? All right, all right, So we also at 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: this weekend as well, Actually do. 131 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: You guys all attend the Rookie Mini camp? 132 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: Well, I was about to get there, Okay. Everson talked 133 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: about what a great Sports Weekend. It was when Scotti 134 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: Scheffler when the c J cub Byron Nelson Okay with 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: record set record tying fashion. Dak Prescott made an appearance 136 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: out at Texas Motor Speedway on Sunday. He did or 137 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: the NASCAR race. He was throwing footballs before the race 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: began out there. He didn't know the officials start your engines. No, 139 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: he wasn't that. I don't know. He was out there 140 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: for some reason, Okay, and maybe he was just having fun. Yeah, 141 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: it was a great day for it. So and that 142 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: brings us now to the Rookie Mini. 143 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: Camp, which was basically one day and it was not 144 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: much more than a walk through practice my understanding. 145 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: So it sounds like you weren't there. 146 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: I was not there. That's why that's why we changed 147 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: this day of the of. 148 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: Mix shots from yesterday. I was out of town, so 149 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 4: I said, I was scouting Luke Combs. 150 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: Where was that New Orleans? 151 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: Oh? 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Okay jazz festival. Oh my daughter and son in law 153 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: were down there for the jazz festival. 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: I don't think I bumped into them in part of 155 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: five hundred thousand people that I think were there over 156 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: four days. 157 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I asked, did I miss anything? And my 158 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: answer was no, yeah, and. 159 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: Anybody I was here in town and I knew I 160 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: was not going to miss anything, and so I didn't 161 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: come out here. 162 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: They had like nineteen guys out there working what were 163 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: they doing? Ten draft choices, nine or eight uh, rookie 164 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: free agents and one quarterback workout so they could have 165 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: quarterbacks there. 166 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Donovan Smith, former Texas Tech reederator in Houston. 167 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Houston, right, yeah, Houston. He started at Texas at Tech. 168 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: Okay, but and they did not sign him, Yes, yes, 169 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: they did not. 170 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: He was a tryout. 171 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had got to have somebody out there. You 172 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: know what it was more orientation, which is what has 173 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: become in recent years, which is what used to Okay, 174 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: this is our first opportunity to go see the rookies 175 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: out there, and then they would have like first year 176 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: guys who didn't get any playing time, and so you 177 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: would have more people out there, and whether they have 178 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: nineteen players out there, yeah, and then you've so they 179 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: weren't playing. They were basically going to just be a 180 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: walkthrough on Friday, they get they arrive on Thursday, they 181 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: get equipment and get checked in and stuff on Thursday, 182 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: they at meetings and all that, and then they had 183 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: a walk through that was going to be open and 184 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: a rain Cats and Dogs on Friday, and so then 185 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: it got delayed until so they just stayed inside and 186 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: they were setting up for the ACM Awards, so there 187 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: was nothing inside Ford Center either for the media access anyway. 188 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: So the first time then the media could get there 189 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: on the far field, the grass field was open, and 190 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: so they were able to go out there and run 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: around a little bit on Saturday. 192 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: And what did they do basically individual drills, position drills, 193 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: just kind of just orient the guys to maybe how 194 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: they're going to practice when they get to OTA's. It's 195 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: nothing like you're going to say, well, coach, what did 196 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: they look like? You know, well, they look like just 197 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: what we saw on film, so you know before they 198 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: go out there in practice. 199 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: That's because when guys get hurt, they didn't put much 200 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 5: value into the players. Then now the players the contracts 201 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: is so big you can't even risk getting them injured. 202 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: Right in practice, right and and and so the OTAs 203 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: don't start until I think two weeks, not this week. 204 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 4: Following back in the day, they would they would no, 205 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: they would go out there and practice. I remember I 206 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: remembered distinctly Patrick Creighton, seventh round draft choice, and he 207 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: came out here and Parcels was the head coach, and 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: they're practicing, you know, helmets, no pads, right, which is 209 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: worse because boys will be boys, right, You're gonna try hard. 210 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: If you have to dive for a ball, you're gonna 211 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 4: die for a ball. Well, he ended up with a 212 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: foot injury, and he came out and played practice the 213 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: next day, and the next day's limping through it. And 214 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 4: I'm going, what do you think about? You know, you 215 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: can't go out there and do that. He goes, do 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: you think is a seventh round draft choice? If I 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: don't go out there with Bill Parcells as the head coach, 218 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: then I'm even gonna make it to training camp. And 219 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 4: he probably was right, And they used to get so 220 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: many soft tissue injuries. So I don't know, three four 221 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: years ago, they turned it into orientation because they knew 222 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: these guys, especially the draft choices, they've been on the 223 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 4: traveling circuit, right interviews, thirty visits combine. Then they're not 224 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: practicing football and they're probably not in great shape. I 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 4: can remember when they drafted. It was what twenty ten 226 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: des Bryant and you know, the first practice they come 227 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: out here, it's ninety degrees high humidity, and oh, dez Bryant, 228 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: this guy could make He's not in shape, he's pukin 229 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: and or non you know, but they're they're not ready 230 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: for So they finally backed off and said, let's be 231 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 4: smart about this and make sure we get guys in 232 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: shape before they go out there. 233 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: Now the veterans have been doing all their their workouts. Yeah, 234 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: these guys all they were working out was for the 235 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: draft and traveling all over the place. So they finally 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: got smart about it. So the O So back in 237 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: the day, you didn't even have that, did you. 238 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: We had you know, OTAs that was about it. 239 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 3: But they called it quarterback school. 240 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and so uh and of course we had 241 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: the rookies come in, uh and all rookies at the 242 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: same time. Yeah, we did have that. No veterans were there, 243 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 5: but Tony Hill came up there and one of somebody 244 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: just kind of wom them up. 245 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: You're talking about your rookie year, yes, so about how 246 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: many rookies were out there your rookie year. The first 247 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: time that you set foot. How many rookies was out 248 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: there with us hundred? Yeah, it was about one hundred 249 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: and twenty five rookies. 250 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 5: That's what. 251 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: And basically they were there trying out. Yeah, well most 252 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: of them signed the contract. 253 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had been signed. 254 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm asking is I just saw this. The Tampa Bay 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: Buccaneers are hosting twenty two rookies and veterans for tryouts 256 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: at their Rookie Minute. Yeah, this week. So they got 257 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: they got a list of them all, and I see 258 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: one of them, bro Oklahoma, And I don't know why 259 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: he bust have paid his old way down there for 260 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,119 Speaker 2: the tryout, because. 261 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 5: But everything, everything has changed now because as players, we 262 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 5: weren't doing the right things. We were out there we 263 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 5: had OTAs would interrupt our road basketball schedule we had 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 5: in the off season. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, so 265 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 5: we're out there playing basketball. We're not caring about injuries. 266 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: And I don't recall anyone getting injured doing any of 267 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 5: our basketball games. 268 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: I love those basketball games. I remember going out and 269 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: watching them at the University of Dallas. Yeah, play and you. 270 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 5: Knew who had who had game, you know, and and 271 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: you know, you give it, gave you a little bit 272 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: more respect because you can do more than one sport. Oh, 273 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: I thought he was just a football player. Well, no, 274 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: I just you know, doing three sixty slam. 275 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 2: In the Cowboys. Basketball did travel around the state. They Yeah, 276 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: I said state because I remember coming out to Lubbock. 277 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: Is an easy ride. We take a drive down there. 278 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: We wouldn't catch a flight, but we had flights all over. 279 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: We go to New Mexico, Colorado, Ron Springs and I 280 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: did a game out there. We went to some Indian 281 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: nation in Colorado, window Rock Nation, window Rock Nation. We 282 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: went out there and got a sponsorship from him. 283 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: So who are the guys that played on the on 284 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: the off season basketball? 285 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 5: Teach everybody? Uh do what I said, Tony Hill, Ron 286 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: Springs too tall, everybody, Lockhart, Michael downs Manny Hendricks, Randy White, 287 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: Hell no. 288 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: Not everybody. I mean you didn't have a White point guard, 289 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: not a. 290 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: Point guard, but Brian Baldinger point guard. Yeah, and uh 291 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: Kevin Yeah he was an enforcer, which he was. 292 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 293 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: No, we had the players, man, even croffor Kerr tried 294 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 5: to come out there and playing. We had them all. 295 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: We had them all. Nate no, never, Nate never played. 296 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: And they's like a you guys could have that big 297 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: big Daddy was out there. 298 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 5: Big Daddy was out there. Big Daddy had a ball. 299 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: So like, how much would y'all make off that? 300 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: We might get paid three hundred dollars a game? And 301 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: then when Ronn and I took over, we did better 302 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 5: because we started getting sponsors and we paid him a 303 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: little bit. 304 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: More like seven and the places you that was for charity. 305 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: So we would split the chair, split it with him. 306 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: We did the correct way. Uh, instead of just you know, 307 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: chump change, we made it into something that you know, well, guys, 308 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 5: could you just kind of make a little living off 309 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: that in the offseason because it wasn't making a whole 310 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: bunch of money. It's a bunch of free agents out 311 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: there a little bit some of them. 312 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: Those were the days. Those were the days. 313 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: You weren't getting ten thousand dollars signing modus. 314 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: No, we weren't. 315 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Who would you play against? 316 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: They always had a charity that brought their own team. 317 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: Now that sounds good because we will whip all those 318 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: little kids, little guys, old guys got played in Texas 319 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 5: A and M football team. No, you did not whipped 320 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 5: our asses. I mean they had guys shooting three pointers 321 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 5: like Steph Curry and they ran us. 322 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: Out of there was no three pointers back then. 323 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: Yes, it's how old do you think I am? 324 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: So the A and M was so that would be 325 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: in the eighties. So I wonder if Kevin Murray. I 326 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: wonder if Kevin Murray played now it was in the eighties, 327 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: he played to A and M. 328 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: And I would say, yeah, and those were the That 329 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: was the end of that. That's when I was about 330 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: to leave. 331 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, the late eighties, late ladies, okay, wow. 332 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know who those guys were, but 333 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: they had this white dude that shout us out the gym. 334 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: They had this brother. They was about the same size, 335 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: same height, little point. They shot us out of the 336 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: gym and we started putting in the young guys. 337 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: I know. 338 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: It was somebody I'm sure had something. 339 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: Was that legal back then? 340 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't. 341 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: Could the A n M coach be there to watch? 342 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they were there the whole everybody. 343 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: Who was the old metal It was very good. 344 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had fun. 345 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: Man, I covered one of the regionals they qualified for. 346 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 5: That was fun stuff. Yeah, they came out, they tore 347 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 5: us up. Pretty good. That's so pretty good. We played 348 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: the we played the Washington Wizards. 349 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: You did not, Yes? 350 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: Is that the funny? 351 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: The team? You know, the general Marcus at the General Trotters, 352 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: Washington General. 353 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, he ended up, you know, separated from the Globe 354 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 5: Trotters and he started. 355 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: His own Marcus Marcus Haynes. 356 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: Yeah right, So he you know, did some games with us, 357 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: and you know, they got a little nervous because you know, 358 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 5: we didn't want to be no damn Washington Generals. We 359 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 5: wanted to come out and kick their butts, and so 360 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 5: we actually you know, started playing. I mean, we got 361 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: some big guys on our team. So when you come 362 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 5: with some basketball players, they're not the accustomed to somebody 363 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 5: like Lockhart, who, yeah he's a middle linebacker, but he 364 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 5: also can shoot a little bit, you know, Michael Downs, 365 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: you know, yeah he's a free safety, but he can 366 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: sky and he can block your shots. So, you we 367 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: had athletes out there and we started winning. And when 368 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 5: you start winning against the team that's supposed to win, 369 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 5: they started stopping the game and okay, let's do our 370 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: little tricks. You see what I'm saying time, because we're 371 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: about to kick your butts. 372 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: So todar right. 373 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: Doing all the shots and then we lost the game 374 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 5: because they we had to let them do that. You know, man, 375 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 5: we were about to whoop the bus man. We're about 376 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 5: to whoop that. 377 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 2: But such a better time then, you know, And nobody 378 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: can have your home run derbys. 379 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 5: But be a nobody got hurt. Nobody got hurt. That's crazy. 380 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: No one got hurt. 381 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: You know, they had too had something recently. I mean 382 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: when t O was here. I had been right after 383 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: he retired, but he was there. There was a former 384 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: Cowboy basketball celebrity game that was like ilvert one of 385 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: the high schools in Carrollton, maybe r'l Turner High School 386 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: or whatever. I remember doing a live shot from there. 387 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: And and nobody cared about no one anticipated injuries. 388 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: Point. 389 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: But I remember one of the female referees at that 390 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: gave She sees me and she says, I recognize you. 391 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: I know you. 392 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: You live in south Lake. I used to call games 393 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: in south Lake. You used to yell at e undergirls basketball. No, 394 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: that was some other white guy. 395 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: We all look like. 396 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: All right, you know, I played in a age. 397 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: It was a charity flag football game against the Cowboys. 398 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: It was for charity out at that stadium in Farmers Branch, 399 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 4: the big one stand stadium. 400 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: Which Cowboys have worked out there before when there, yeah Branch. 401 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: No, not Standards the other one maybe it was what 402 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: yeah whatever, anyway, we played, Uh it was there was 403 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: a kind of a flag football league team that played 404 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: in Dallas. 405 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: Low's that's yeah, and we played. 406 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: They had their team and then brought in some media 407 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: people and I played, and they sent me out at cornerback, right, 408 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: So I line up, they break the huddle. Who comes 409 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 4: and lines up in front of. 410 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: Me, Bob Hayes, And I'm going, oh, you gotta be kid. Well, 411 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 3: this was at the end. This was at the end. 412 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: I mean his career was this had to be eighty five. 413 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 414 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: He could barely run, right, And I was like, this 415 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: is depressing because I could run better than him, right. 416 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: But they put Bob Hayes on me, right. 417 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: And then at the end of the game, I didn't 418 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: realize this was a whole setup that they were supposed 419 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: to win, right, and We're trying hard, and I broke 420 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: up a Roger Staubach pass in the end zone to 421 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: Drew and I thought I was cool, Right, So they 422 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: set it up the next possession that they had to 423 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: They had to come down and win, right, And so 424 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: they have me cover Drew and it's like everybody quit 425 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: but me because they had to score the winning touchdown, right, 426 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: And we get to the end zone, stallback passes coming. 427 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: I see it. I'm getting ready to jump, and Drew puts. 428 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: His hand on my shoulder, shoves me into the ground, 429 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 4: catches the wind like the. 430 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: Right Eddie spikes it and they all they beat us. 431 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: Right, and I'm going, okay, I get it. It was 432 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: a setup. 433 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: They treated you like Everson Walls out there. Man, that's 434 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: a damn shot. 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Don't miss this celebration six decades in the making, 487 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: all hosted by entertainment icon Reba mcintide. Tickets are available 488 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 5: now at seat geek dot com. I thought you said 489 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 5: was going to be on the show. Who said that? 490 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: I said, I was just trying to get you to 491 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: the studio at a hurry. 492 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: Okay, do you think she's out in one of those trailers. 493 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's waiting. I don't think so. All right, what 494 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: do you want to get to first? Here? 495 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: You got any draft leftovers that stuck out to you? Ask? 496 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: Well, I'll to give you my impression. Someone asked me 497 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: the other day who in this draft class for the 498 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys do you think we'll make the besides Tyler Booker 499 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: will make the biggest impact his rookie season. And I 500 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: didn't think long, and I just I said, I think 501 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: the second round pick is going to make a huge impact, 502 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: Right is rookie season? 503 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 504 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: Donovan is a roku. 505 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 4: I mean we're talking uh leading the Acs, well, leading 506 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: the nation with sixteen and a half sacks. 507 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: He also had eighty tackles. 508 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: Right, which is even more impressive when you're looking for 509 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: a defensive end to replace DeMarcus Lawrence. 510 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 5: That's what they do. That's what he does. 511 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: He can play the run, which is gonna be ultimately 512 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 4: important for this team. I think Blue is going to 513 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 4: be and I think and that's my guy. 514 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: I think Blue. 515 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I saw I had read 516 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: prior to the draft and before to Shire choice went 517 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: to Detroit, he was still at Texas, and he's the 518 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: guy that recruited Blue. He was the running back coach, 519 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: and he basically compared him to Jamar Gibbs. And he 520 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 4: actually came out and I saw the quote and he said, 521 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: speed wise, Blue is very similar to Jamar Gibbs because 522 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: he's fast and he can catch the ball out of 523 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: the backfill. And so if I had to compare anybody 524 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: to his body type, it's Gibbs. They look a little 525 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: different and how they play. But the more Blue matures, 526 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: he has a chance. 527 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 3: To be better than Gibbs. 528 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: And when did to Shard say, before the draft, before 529 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: before he went to before he became a Detroit Lion. Yes, 530 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: coach coaching Jamir Gibbs. Yes, Now, he had coached Jamir 531 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Gibbs in college though too, at Georgia Tech. 532 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, so he knew Gibbs and that's who 533 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: he blew he compared to. So this guy, he's got 534 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: some talent now, just got to hold out into the 535 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: football and you know, and and of course that's all anybody. 536 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: Can say about him. Well he put the ball, he 537 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: lost four fumbles. Okay, I get it. 538 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: But but Longhorn fans will tell you they were it 539 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: was when he lost the football. 540 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 3: Well, I got you. 541 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: Well, but like anything else, I'm assuming that limiting your 542 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 5: fumbles is something that can be coached out of you. 543 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: Like technique. He said it was technical, his technique on 544 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: holding the ball. 545 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 5: I mean, it's not something that you know, it's just 546 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 5: in hamming. I have to fumble again, you know, Yeah, 547 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 5: that that can be you know, coached out of you. 548 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: So I'll take my chance out on four to three 549 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: eight exactly. 550 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: Well and once again go ahead. 551 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: Well, one thing I was going to keep in mind 552 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: on Blue too, there's a lot of tread left on 553 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: those tires. He did not play his senior year in 554 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: high school to focus on getting ready for college for 555 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: whatever reason, so he didn't have any carries that year. 556 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: Then he's playing behind Vjeon Robinson and then Jonathan Brooks 557 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: at Texas or he's in rotation by his second year there. 558 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: So his first year there he only carried fifteen times. 559 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: So now you've gone two seasons without really putting much 560 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: wear and tear on you at all. Then in twenty 561 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: twenty three he had fourteen games, no start, sixty five 562 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: carries for three hundred ninety eight yards six point one 563 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: yards of carry. And then finally this year he became 564 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: more of a workhorse, but it was still in hand 565 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: him in seven hundred and thirty yards and forty two 566 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: catches and had fourteen touchdowns. 567 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: Could you imagine the diversity that they would give us 568 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 5: if this guy, yeah, was able to play and come 569 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 5: out of the backfield. And I always think about him 570 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 5: being you come out with two running backs, but yet 571 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: you can shift put him in the slot. Next thing, 572 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: you know, we're not running the ball. You know we're 573 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: passing the ball. We catch the defense off guard, you 574 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: catch a mismatch from someone who's trying to guard him. 575 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 5: She's gonna be a linebacker going to try and guard 576 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: him if he's at the slot or running out of 577 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 5: the backfield. You can do so much with this guy, 578 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 5: And once again I worry about us not having enough 579 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: wide receivers with enough experience or if nothing else, we 580 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: don't have any mismatches at the slot position when you're 581 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 5: talking about the wide receivers that we have. He can 582 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 5: create that mismatch for us, right depending on how they 583 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: want to use him. And that's what I'm excited about. 584 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 5: This guy can come out of the backfield and make 585 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 5: plays for us, especially on those third downs where we 586 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 5: got to move the chains. Not only that catch them 587 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 5: in on goal line, the mismatches there can be exploited 588 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: so much. 589 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: Think if if they have him on the field as 590 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: the same time at the same time of Cavante Turpe, 591 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: there you go and you don't have And one of 592 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 4: the questions we had to answer this week on Dallas 593 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: Cowboys dot com uh in our mail bag, and it's 594 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: not going to appear till tomorrow, but was the Cowboys 595 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: that everybody's making a big deal out of they don't 596 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: have a number two receiver. The question was, but don't 597 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: you think there's enough combinations of other receivers that can 598 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: make up for it. My answer was, they do, but 599 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: they don't have a experienced, start game starting wide receiver 600 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: to take the pressure off of off of set LAMB. 601 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 4: But the alternative is maybe I can do it with 602 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: speed because Turpin may not have the experience. Blue no 603 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: NFL experience, but guess what, you still got to cover them, right. 604 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: It's it's the old Jimmy Johnson deal on Alexander Wright, 605 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: and you know everybody's talking about, well, you know he's fast, but. 606 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: You know he's he's not a really good ride receiver. 607 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 4: And Jimmy's answer was, well, yeah, but you never know 608 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: when he's gonna catch one, he will be open and. 609 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: Then he's gone. 610 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: So they can maybe offset that lack of experience at 611 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: the number two or number three receiver with guys that 612 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: have speed. 613 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: Here's a little something for you. I'm just comparing Jaden 614 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: Blue and Jamier Gibbs. They both come into the came 615 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: into the league at age twenty one. They both are 616 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: Blue at the combine five nine, one hundred and ninety 617 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: six pounds Gibbs five nine, one hundred and ninety nine pounds. 618 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: Blue ran a four to three eight and Gibbs ran 619 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: a four to three six, and in their last year 620 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: of college, Blue had one hundred and thirty four carries 621 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: averaging five and a half yards of carry eight touchdowns. 622 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: Gibbs at Alabama is a lone year at Alabama, one 623 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one carries, six yards of carry, seven touchdowns. 624 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: Blue had forty two catches out of the backfield six 625 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: touchdowns and Gibbs had forty four catches three touchdowns out 626 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: of the backfield. Almost identical stats there last year on 627 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: teams that played deep into the College Football Playoff. 628 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: And with a guy like that, you're not going to 629 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: wear them out as a workhorse, right, You're gonna spot 630 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: them right. 631 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: Or use them. 632 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: And that's what like what Gibbs he goes to Detroit 633 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: with David Montgomery and. 634 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: And what about pace? 635 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: If you think about it, when Paul was so successful, 636 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: it was a change of pace between how Zeke ran 637 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: and how he ran. And you tell me, do you 638 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: get used to a running back speed and then they 639 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: bring in another guy and all of a sudden, he's 640 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: a step or two faster. 641 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 5: Man. That's tough. That's tough. It's tough for covering why 642 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 5: running backs period. In the passing game, it's hard for 643 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 5: a defensive back, a cornerback to cover a running back 644 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 5: with a lot of moves in the slot. 645 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: And plus you can't get your hands on him. If 646 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: he lines up in the backfield right he gets a 647 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: running start, he does, and that's. 648 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 5: Very difficult, very difficult, even as a strong safety coming 649 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: down free safety, very difficult to cover a running back 650 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 5: come out of the back. 651 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: And you probably can't do it with a linebacker. 652 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: Oh no, you can't do it, no doubt about it. 653 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 5: And that's where the mismatch is gonna come in for us. 654 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: And so when you start talking about a mismatch in 655 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: one area, then you can exploit it in another area, 656 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 5: but it won't be down the field. You got we 657 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: got tight ends and it can catch the ball. We 658 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 5: got tight ends that can really catch the ball, but 659 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: they're not going down the field. But when it comes 660 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: to moving the chains, we can move the chains with 661 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 5: what we have right now. My problem is can one 662 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 5: of those wide receivers step up and still give CD 663 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 5: a chance on the other side, Because you can go 664 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 5: running back tight ends all you want. If you need 665 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 5: big plays, you're gonna have to get another wide receiver 666 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 5: that can do that. I don't mean do it consistently, right, 667 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 5: but at least at least have that second option other 668 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 5: than having CD going down the field. 669 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 4: You have you have to have a wide receiver out there. 670 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 4: The defense respects another one. 671 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 5: I don't know if we have that. I don't know 672 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 5: if we right now. 673 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: They're gonna take their chances as it is, don't you 674 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 4: think at the wide receiver position to add to that. 675 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 5: And they've got they have a science one yet and 676 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 5: there that's that time is really if it hadn't went 677 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: out already, that time is really is. They're still away. 678 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: A couple of guys out there. 679 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, a couple of guys. And there's a reason 680 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 5: there's still a couple of guys out. 681 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 4: There, well, one of two reasons. Either they're at the end, 682 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: or they're actually wanting too much money. 683 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: Or it could be that they don't want to come 684 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: here right now. They look still early May, right right. 685 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: It's kind of like an Aaron Rodgers thing. Okay, Aaron 686 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: Rodgers is sitting there like, Okay, do I myself, at 687 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: age forty whatever he is, do I want to go 688 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh in May? Or would I just as soon 689 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: go in June and get by me another month here 690 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: of freedom? 691 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 5: These wims are out there, there are no Aaron Rods. 692 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying Amari Cooper. 693 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 5: I just want that. But I'm just luxury to think that, right, 694 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 5: They don't have that luxury. 695 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, there's only a certain number of teams that are 696 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: bidding for their services and so and but here's the 697 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: other thing to think about. Teams can there are acl 698 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: injuries that can happen in May and so someone like 699 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: an Amari Cooper sitting there, why would I settle for 700 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: now when just give it a little. 701 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: Bit of time. You'd better be ready when you come right. 702 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because the desperation, the desperation factor will go 703 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: up if you lose a wide. 704 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: Receiver and it's like, okay, now you're going to have 705 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: to pay me this, right, But you'd. 706 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 5: Better come in ready to go. Yeah, No, you'd better 707 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 5: come in ready to go. And I don't know what 708 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 5: veterans think like nowadays in regards to these critical positions. 709 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: Do are they practicing? Who are they practicing with? You 710 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 5: know what quarterback are you practicing with out there? I 711 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 5: know you're not practicing against a dB or anything. But 712 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 5: while you're out there waiting, and I know you got 713 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 5: experience because you're that particular age. But man, when you 714 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: come in here as a as an experienced professional. You 715 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 5: gotta be ready to go. We don't have ramp up 716 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 5: time now, we don't have that. 717 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 3: And like they have in training. 718 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: And how about this from the from the team's perspective, 719 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 2: this is an opportunity to see what they have with 720 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: these guys. How much have these guys improved that they 721 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: have on their own? 722 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 5: And that's that's nothing. You know, I don't know much 723 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 5: about how the wide receivers are in this camp or 724 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 5: any other camp. When I you know, back in the day, 725 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 5: you had wide receivers that were really looking to not 726 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 5: just make the team. They were their thoughts were on starting, 727 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 5: Their thoughts were on getting on that field, not to 728 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 5: just be a guy playing special team. Now they had 729 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 5: to play special teams. They get out there and try 730 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 5: to ball out. But the point was, I'm going to 731 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 5: put pressure on the guy in front of me. Do 732 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 5: you have anyone out there that has made an impression 733 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: to where somebody said, I see improvement, I see him 734 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 5: being better than last year. They got to show me somebody. 735 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: Let me let me give you a fairly recent example, 736 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: although it's becoming less recent than as the years go by. 737 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 2: Is there a Miles Austin out there. Think about Miles 738 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: Austin when he came here and just looked up his 739 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 2: stats from his first year in two thousand and six, 740 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: he didn't get in at any He played in nine games, 741 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: nothing on, no snaps on offense. Seven His second year, 742 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: he had played sixteen games, all on special teams. Ten targets, 743 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: five receptions. Third year eight twenty three targets, thirteen receptions. 744 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't until his fourth year in the NFL in 745 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine he had the first of back 746 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: to back Pro Bowl seasons eighty one reception. 747 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 5: And he's lucky? 748 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: Is there someone lucky stuck around? 749 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 5: Right? 750 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: Is there someone that's developing behind the scenes here who 751 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 2: can improve to the point where they can be a 752 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: number two wide receipt? That's and that's one of the 753 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: things that you start to kind of figure out as 754 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: you go along here. I mean, even though like some 755 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: name specs, well, I mean Ryan Illinois won the sixth 756 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: round pick last year. 757 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: The other leading candidate would be. 758 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 4: Jalen Tolbert, which you've seen actually led the team with 759 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 4: seven touchdown. 760 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so by mentioning Ryan FLLINOI yeah, that's the 761 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 2: guy that's off everybody's radar. 762 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: He's the Miles Austin. 763 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And is there someone 764 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 2: like that who can develop into a number two receiver 765 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: like Miles Austin did, Because you remember when Miles in 766 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: those off seasons before before he emerged as a legitimate 767 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: starting wide receiver in the league. Remember Romo talking about him. 768 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 2: Romo would talk about, there's one guy that he had 769 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 2: high hopes for. 770 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 4: He saw his speed and it didn't erupt until that 771 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 4: Kansas City game when maybe Owens was hurt, somebody was hurt. 772 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 4: He had to play and he erupts. But before that, yeah, 773 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: he was special teams kick return guy. 774 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 5: You know what. The guy that I'm always thinking about 775 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 5: is Toba. Yeah, and he stepped up. Yes, he caught 776 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 5: some touchdown. 777 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: I know, I get that, but you got to be conceited. 778 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 5: I gotta see you what I got to move that 779 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 5: chain when it's you know, two minutes to go, under 780 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 5: two minutes to go, and I need a third and seventeen. 781 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 5: Can you get that for me? 782 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: Well, and to that point on Tobert, if you go 783 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: back and look at his college career, it took him 784 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: a couple of years at South Alabama before he became 785 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: he was a late bloomer, okay, and. 786 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm all about that. 787 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: And so so it was his third He was a 788 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 2: five year guy I think at South Alabama. But it 789 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: went until his last two years where he emerged. And 790 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: so now he's going into his fourth season, okay. So, 791 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 2: and he showed a lot of progress from his first 792 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: year to his second year. I mean he went from 793 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: his first year he had two catches for twelve yards, 794 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: three targets, eight games. His second year in twenty twenty 795 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: three thirty six targets, twenty two or okay, got a 796 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: lot more opportunities last year without the starting quarterback for 797 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: much of the season, seventy nine targets, forty nine catches, 798 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: six hundred ten yards, and seven touchdowns. So that's real progress. Now, 799 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: is Jalen Tolbert ready to take that next step to 800 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: be the number two guy? And this is that this 801 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: has to be the year and it him and that 802 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: is his fourth year, and that follows the Miles Austin. 803 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: It was his fourth year where he was he became 804 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: what he became. What was his rookie year was six six. 805 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and see when you look at the Miles Austin 806 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 5: versus Tobert. First of all, there's a bit of a 807 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 5: size different. Yeah, that's right, so and that that doesn't 808 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 5: bother me as much. But if you play small, then 809 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 5: that is a problem. If you have a tendency not 810 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 5: to be able to get off the jam, yeah, that 811 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: is a problem if you're that small. But you can 812 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 5: still get off the jam. I don't care how small 813 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 5: you are. If you can get off the jam and 814 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 5: make plays, then that's the kind of guy we need. 815 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 5: I don't know how well he is, because when it's 816 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 5: crunch time, every defense in the NFL knows that if 817 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 5: they get up in our faces, our wide receivers don't 818 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 5: play as well. 819 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 3: That's why there's speed guys need to take. 820 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 5: That's why you gotta get off. 821 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 2: You know, here's what Miles Austin had over You mentioned 822 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: the size. Okay, he was two hundred and fifteen pounds 823 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: and Tolbert came in one hundred and ninety five pounds. Okay, 824 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 2: it's that explosion that Austin had. I mean, we're talking 825 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: a forty vertical guy, same speed at time, speed at 826 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: his pro day and combined four four nine for both 827 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: of them. But Austin had that athletic Sober. 828 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 5: I saw Toba get up for a couple of touchsdown 829 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 5: whether we talk. 830 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it's probably, but I'm 831 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 2: just that's what put Miles Austin over the top athletics. 832 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 5: And I'm asking because not so because tobas going to 833 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 5: need something like that hasn't made to say, Okay, I can. 834 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: Depend Toober's a thirty six vertical guy. That's what he was. 835 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: So my favorite Miles Austin story is rookie year. 836 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 4: We're at training camp and I was over there in 837 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: our little work area and ox Nerd and Parcells is 838 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 4: sitting on his his golf cart. 839 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 3: Right, we're sitting there shooting the breeze. Miles Austin comes 840 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 3: walking up. 841 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: Parcels looks like this poor rookie, right, and he goes, hey, Austin, 842 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: are you blankety blank smart? Just like that, and Miles goes, well, yeah, coach, 843 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 4: well what was. 844 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: Your SAT score? 845 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 5: What he had? 846 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, he had some answer for it, right, 847 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: and Parcells who well, that's impressive he would even yeah 848 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 3: right right, that's suppresser. And then he goes so and 849 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 3: they were both from the same area. Yeah, they were 850 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 3: both neighborhood. 851 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: Whatever did you get ice cream at such and such? 852 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: Austin grew up in Garfield, New Jersey. 853 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 3: Was just trying to intimidate him, right, and and and 854 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 3: the kid kind of hung in there, but it was like, 855 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure, and his mind's going, what the hell? And 856 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm sitting there, I'm just thoroughly amused. 857 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: Right, Parcels, Parcels is sitting there. 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Mike Dean, 906 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: all right, there's much more in that legal pad of yours. 907 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 4: Yes, I was gonna ask you if anybody in your 908 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 4: big green notebook that the Cowboys signed as rookie free 909 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 4: agents might have stuck out to you. 910 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 3: Nope, come on, he's doing the break. 911 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 2: Right Trey Shawn Holden Wide receiver from Oregon who played 912 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 2: four junior adam Boys receiver that was resignated with me 913 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 2: resignated resonates you he didn't resign. 914 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 915 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: I looked at the Rivaldo Fairweather, the tight end from 916 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 2: Auburn who transferred there. 917 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 5: And transferred from where he was like if I you 918 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 5: I f I. 919 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: U okay set the Auburn single season record for catches 920 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: by a tight end and program history with thirty eight 921 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 2: and six touchdown those history. 922 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: How about the corner mark that the cornerback from Kentucky. 923 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: Just challenge me. 924 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 5: I'm going to come up with it all oh man, 925 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 5: I mean Alabama. 926 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but aur did Barkley play football? He would have 927 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 3: been not playing football. 928 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 2: He would tell you he'd never I'm going to to cheat. 929 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: I'll find one. Okay, talk making. 930 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 4: Zion Zion Childress cornerback from your eye, just kind of 931 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 4: looking at what he had done. He played multiple positions, 932 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 4: played in the slot. Uh no, and if I remember correctly, 933 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 4: give me this, well. 934 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: You're looking that up found Ai just I said, I 935 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: put in best Auburn tight end AI overview. The most 936 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: highly regarded tight end in Auburn history is considered to 937 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 2: be Walter Reeves. It was two times All America A 938 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 2: known for his exceptional blocking abilities, excelling and run focused offense. 939 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 5: Just think a tight ends. 940 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 2: He thought that nineteen eighty seven and eighty eight, Walter Reeves. 941 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,959 Speaker 2: I thought we're talking sixties, so I'm still looking. 942 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 5: Go ahead. 943 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 4: Zion Zion Childress, two time team captain, started twenty five 944 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 4: straight games at the nickel position. 945 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 3: Supposed to have top speed special teams. 946 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 5: Nicol is a playmaking of. 947 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 4: As matter of fact, they started his career at Texas 948 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 4: State before he transferred to Kentucky in twenty twenty two. So, uh, 949 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 4: that caught my eye. We talked about our last showed 950 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 4: Tyler Neville. Yes, the tight the tight end from Virginia Harvard. 951 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 4: His whole story, Yes, so you know he had a 952 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 4: pretty good story. And then there's another cornerback from rock Rockwell, 953 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 4: Heath Bruce Harmon. 954 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 3: Ran a four four four forty Norman Rockwell. It's hard 955 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 3: to well, I was really asking about. 956 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: Uh, it's a town called rock Wall. 957 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 5: Somewhere around here. 958 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 3: And his name is Harmon. Get all the ages in there, 959 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 3: we can uh that one. That one caught my eye. 960 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 4: So uh, but the Oregon wide receiver Trey Uh, Trey 961 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 4: Shawn Holden. Uh, they would have had inside information on him. 962 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 4: Played at Oregon. His coach for two years there was 963 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 4: Junior Adams, now the Cowboys wide receiver coach. 964 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 2: And he's, by the way, is very confident. Dimensions six 965 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: two five, ran A four five seven. 966 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: All big, honorable man. 967 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 2: Well, he started his career at Alabama. He was at 968 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: Alabama for three years and then Oregon. In the last 969 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: two years. Uh and had thirty seven catches in twenty 970 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 2: three with bo Nick's throwing to him, uh in six touchdowns, 971 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: and last year with Dylan Gabriel throwing to him, he 972 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 2: had forty three catches, five touchdowns, sixteen and a half 973 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 2: yards to catch. I said, he's very confident. He thinks 974 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 2: that he was the best receiver in the draft. 975 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 3: Just ask him, Wow, was that was in his interview 976 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 3: when he got here? 977 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 5: Was he wrong? 978 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: He calculated Quinn yours thought he was so, and so 979 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 2: they got a chance to prove it right right the 980 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 2: other ever, since you thought you were the best cornerback 981 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: in the draft too, exactly, So there you go, perfect example. 982 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: I was, and you were perfect example and you went undrafted. 983 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 2: Damn right, Yeah, Trey Shaun Holden Quinn, yours listened to 984 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 2: Everson Walls. You can be the best any other cornerback 985 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 2: in the draft. 986 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 3: Stand out in there. 987 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 5: Right, Oh yeah, right, decent career university, of course. But 988 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 5: he moved to safety after after the strike. You in 989 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 5: eighty two he moved and that was eighty one to said, yeah, 990 00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 5: but he was eighty one class. 991 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 3: Okay. 992 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,479 Speaker 2: You know you've you've arrived when you can just say 993 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 2: Ronnie and everybody knows you you're talking about. It's like 994 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: you just say Everson and everyone knows. 995 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's the unusual name. Ronnie. Yeah, you could 996 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 5: pick a lot of Ronnie's, but you know who we're 997 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 5: talking about. 998 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: Just like when you say the name Walter, you think 999 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: of the greatest tight end in Auburn history, and it's 1000 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: now a consensus. I looked it up and according to 1001 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 2: the Bleacher Report team, it's Walter Reeves. It's the he 1002 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 2: was a two time All American and second round draft pick. 1003 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 5: If I hear Walter, that's not the Walter, I'm going Okay, 1004 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 5: that ain't the one. 1005 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 4: Walter Reeves sounds like this. It's not like the hospital 1006 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 4: it does medical center. Okay, So my next question to you, guys, 1007 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 4: is we talked about wide receiver. What other position do 1008 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 4: you think is unfinished. 1009 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: For the cornerback? Cornerback, corner back, cornerback. 1010 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 4: Just the top of my list, cornerback, because you have 1011 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 4: Deron Bland, you have Trayvon Diggs whose medical issue with 1012 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 4: that cartilage problem and it wasn't like torn. 1013 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 3: There was a divot in it and they had to 1014 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 3: fill it in. And who knows if he'll be ready 1015 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 3: for Sorry, we can't put. 1016 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 5: Him on the list, right, We can't put him on 1017 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 5: the list. 1018 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 3: So we got if he is great, I doubt it, 1019 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 3: but he's now. 1020 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 4: My understanding is while he's not rehabbing here, he's rehabbing 1021 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 4: in Lord with somebody they're very familiar with, and they 1022 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 4: are understanding is it's going well. But again, until you 1023 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 4: get your hands on him yourself, you don't. And when 1024 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 4: they say going, well, what is the doing what he's 1025 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 4: supposed to be? 1026 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? But does there hoping does that speed up his return? Oh? 1027 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, or leave it at what it's supposed 1028 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 4: to be because its chances are he's going to start 1029 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 4: training camp at Pop on Pop is able to perform. 1030 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 4: You're hoping he's ready for the start of the season. Uh, 1031 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 4: And I think that's when you say it's going well, 1032 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 4: so you're hopeful for that. But even said that, there's 1033 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 4: no guarantee he's the same guy after suffering those back 1034 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 4: to back injuries knee injuries. 1035 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 5: So what other names we have? 1036 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 3: All Right? 1037 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 4: So I got Doron Bland Diggs, Caylin Carson who was 1038 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 4: pretty good until he hurt his shoulder and then he 1039 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 4: just kind of faded. 1040 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 5: And how's he looking. 1041 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 3: So he's back. 1042 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 4: I believe he had the shoulder surgery repaired and he's 1043 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 4: back now, so he should be ready to go. You 1044 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 4: traded for career veteran guy two years in the league, 1045 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 4: but he was a high draft choice and Buffalo was 1046 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 4: ready to let him go. 1047 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 3: God Booth, who you. 1048 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 4: Know they traded switched uh Shawn Wright for and Nayshaun 1049 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 4: Wright just got released and he was on the practice 1050 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 4: squad and Booth was he was one of those guys 1051 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 4: when he had to play. 1052 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 3: You were going, I don't know Josh Butler, so. 1053 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 2: You would feel Josh Butler's coming off in a c A. 1054 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: You got you got uh knee injuries at cornerback. Butler 1055 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 2: the first round of the third round pick Revel as 1056 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 2: well as Diggs. And I was going to feel and 1057 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 2: I feel much better about the cornerback position in November, 1058 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 2: and I do it September. Yeah, you got to get 1059 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 2: to November. 1060 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. And and because everyone you're call him out here, 1061 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 5: you know it's a contingency. 1062 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 4: Revel will probably start training camp on Pop. But they're 1063 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 4: hopeful just because doctor Cooper did the surgery that they 1064 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 4: know as much about his uh situation as they can. 1065 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 4: And he was here doing his rehab at a rehab 1066 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 4: place in in the Dallas Fort Worth area and just 1067 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 4: and listening to him, and he's an outside corner. 1068 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 1069 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 3: You know, this kid is chomping at the bit to 1070 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 3: get back out there. So that's what you have. Do 1071 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 3: you need? 1072 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 2: Yes? 1073 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 3: A veteran. 1074 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 2: Ye Gilmore? 1075 00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And you're gonna have to decide what you 1076 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 4: can afford. Yeah, because Gilmore is like thirty five, ye thirty. 1077 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 2: Six, that's fine. He's in great shape. And and and 1078 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: you you might just need for apph a season. You know, 1079 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 2: you get these guys back, right, and you know you'll 1080 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 2: have injuries just get me to but you just got it. 1081 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 2: It's a long season and you get them. 1082 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 3: So, and what's today Today's so I look at it. 1083 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 2: You complete the roster? 1084 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that I was gonna say, got to get 1085 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 4: through those first four or five games. Well, we don't 1086 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 4: know what they are, but we will on May fourteenth, 1087 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 4: by a. 1088 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: Week from tomorrow. Yeah, And whether it's signing them now 1089 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 2: or signing them in June, whatever, they need to sign 1090 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 2: a Stephan Gilmore and a an Amari Cooper or a 1091 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. Which which pair do you like? 1092 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 5: I like Cooper? 1093 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Cooper and Gilmore. 1094 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 5: We're familiar, man. Yeah, it's all about both of them. Yeah, 1095 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 5: they just sound like low hanging fruit to me. 1096 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 4: Really, Now, what about backup quarterback number two guy? You 1097 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 4: trusting what they have right now? 1098 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 2: I would like a veteran guy in here. 1099 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 4: He's just saying, though, absolutely, and there's a couple out there. 1100 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 4: I just want somebody that has started more than one 1101 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 4: game in the well, no, two games, two games, started 1102 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 4: two games, but that was twenty nineteen. 1103 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: CJ. Bethard. 1104 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 3: Okay, So Will. 1105 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 5: Gear has been around here since twenty nineteen. 1106 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 3: I believe so, I believe. 1107 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 2: Well I remember that. I mean he's only been here 1108 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 2: most recently since December first because he was let go. 1109 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 2: He was with the Eagles because he was with Kelling Moore. 1110 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 2: He was let go and or and picked up. 1111 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 3: I think he started those two games with Carolina. 1112 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 2: Yes, he did with Carolina. He started two games early 1113 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 2: in his career. 1114 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 5: But that's it. 1115 00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 2: Years old. 1116 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 5: He's been on thirty years old and nice boy, he's 1117 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 5: just can chill and just kind of. 1118 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: But he's been more practice squad than he hadn't been 1119 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Chase Daniel on a fifty three man roster making that 1120 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 2: kind of money. 1121 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 4: Chase Daniels, that's what most of the boy for quarterbacks 1122 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 4: that lasted without having to start. 1123 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 5: Oh my god, must be nice. 1124 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 3: Which I heard his funny story. The first time he 1125 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 3: started was Kansas City. 1126 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 4: It was Christmas. I think they tried calling him on 1127 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 4: Christmas Eve and they couldn't get hold. He was with 1128 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 4: his family, right and finally he looks at his phone 1129 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 4: and it's a call from Kansas City. He's wondering what 1130 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 4: the hell and they said, whoever was starting at that 1131 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 4: point is hurt and you're starting tomorrow. 1132 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 2: That was his first four A and NFL funny story 1133 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 2: on Mickey and Chase Daniel. Because Chase went to Missouri. Yeah, 1134 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Mickey's alma mater. We did a high school football game 1135 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 2: at Texas City. 1136 01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 3: Playoff game. 1137 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 2: It was a playoff game south Lake Carrol versus Denton Ryan, 1138 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: and we were broadcasting on the Cowboys Channel whatever and 1139 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 2: seen by no one. So Vicky before the Gabe, he 1140 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 2: knew that this quarterback from South Lake had was signing 1141 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 2: with committed Missouri. He had committed to Missouri, so he 1142 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 2: had to go check him out and just see how 1143 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 2: tall he was. And so Mickey goes down on the field, 1144 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 2: it measures himself against Chase Daniel just to see if 1145 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 2: he might be tall enough to play college. 1146 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 3: And my result was I'm skeptical. 1147 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 2: And he turns out and he turned out being the 1148 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 2: best quarterback Missouri he's ever had. 1149 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know how many years later, but he 1150 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 3: was here. 1151 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 4: Basically doing a golf tournament to raise money for Missouri, 1152 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 4: and I was doing the ceremony afterwards, awards ceremony, hosting it, 1153 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 4: and I told that story about I said, yeah, I was. 1154 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 3: Really worried he was too short. He stated next to me, 1155 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 3: he got out of his tipping topes to show that 1156 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 3: he was taller than me. 1157 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Here right, Uh, and he said, I'm too short. 1158 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was. 1159 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 4: He put he put Missouri football on it, no doubt, 1160 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 4: and put it the university on the map in this 1161 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 4: area because all of a sudden people understood what the 1162 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 4: logo was and started going just the general school there. 1163 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 4: So my point was, whoever's in his family automatically gets 1164 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 4: a scholarship to University of Missouri. 1165 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 5: Fends favorite quarterback. Really, yes, Chase stands name. 1166 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 3: He's doing some broadcasting, he is. 1167 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 2: He's doing a good job broadcasting too, South of Lake Son. 1168 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 5: All right. 1169 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Uh, they produced broadcasters there, Greg Greig McElroy too, Bill Jones. 1170 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 1171 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that does it. And uh, our thanks to producer 1172 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Supreme Chris Beam, who did not have to interject anything 1173 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 2: into today's show and catch us on anything. 1174 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 3: We were on our own. 1175 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 2: We didn't have to correct us, didn't correct us. Welcome 1176 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:11,919 Speaker 2: to overtime, all right, back to our regular time, which 1177 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 2: is Everson. 1178 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 5: That's gonna be Monday at eleven o'clock right here on 1179 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 5: mickshot O Cowboys. 1180 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1181 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,479 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.