Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Kathy
Speaker 1: and I are back and we're so excited to be back.
Speaker 2: Be sure to check out our latest episode. We have
Speaker 2: been having so much fun answering your questions and chatting
Speaker 2: with your Bachelor Nation fas.
Speaker 1: Okay, today we have a very special guest. But before
Speaker 1: we let her in, Kathy, we've got to talk about
Speaker 1: paradise this week.
Speaker 2: Oh m, I don't know where do you want to start?
Speaker 2: Where do you want to.
Speaker 1: First of all, camping with the poop, the horseman or
Speaker 1: the bugs. Cat was going crazy and you on the table.
Speaker 1: I wanted to die. I never laughed at least, Kathy.
Speaker 1: That's my Kathy.
Speaker 2: I could see you doing it at all. Keith and I.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, Keith and I were reading
Speaker 2: the instructions like we're putting everything together. We love it.
Speaker 2: I love to camp. He loves to camp. All the
Speaker 2: other kids are going, oh the bugs the months. I'm like, god,
Speaker 2: they're bugs.
Speaker 1: I mean we you would have stayed all night, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: Yes, Keith and I were like we thought we were
Speaker 2: staying all night. I got up to go get wood
Speaker 2: to make a fire. They're like, where are you going, Kathy?
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna make a fire, and they go
Speaker 2: get back to your campsite. I mean, I to me,
Speaker 2: that was honestly the most fun day of paradise for me.
Speaker 1: If I were there, that would have been my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been as loud
Speaker 1: and obvious as Kat, but I would have been crying
Speaker 1: the bugs, the bug.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't. And Keith was just we had
Speaker 2: a sweet conversation, and you know, I just miss him
Speaker 2: when I when I when I go back and watch him.
Speaker 2: But we've got to talk about but.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, one more thing. Okay, that the doctor
Speaker 1: that was listening and her point of view afterwards, that
Speaker 1: was interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna to tell you I think she
Speaker 2: hit it one hundred percent. So she did Keith in
Speaker 2: me first, and I mean she hit it one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But she hit everyone one hundred percent except I think
Speaker 2: for Alex and Andrew. And I say that.
Speaker 1: I think it brought them closer. Do you see what
Speaker 1: happened afterwards?
Speaker 2: I loved Alex and Andrew do laugh a lot and
Speaker 2: have a great time, and they are just both have
Speaker 2: very silly, fun personalities. And I think doctor Burman maybe
Speaker 2: read that. I mean, what do I know she's got
Speaker 2: the PhD?
Speaker 1: Not because they didn't kiss a lot, They don't, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh I saw plenty of kissing.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: I saw plenty of kissing.
Speaker 1: Well for what we see, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But afterwards and they actually admit it that they're falling
Speaker 1: for each other.
Speaker 2: I thought that was so sweet. Was it so cute
Speaker 2: when they said who was going to argue over who
Speaker 2: said I love you first? I know, I'm sitting there, Susan,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going I'll say it first. Just find
Speaker 2: something for me to say it to, like really, this
Speaker 2: is these are the young, and they argue about who's
Speaker 2: gonna tell whom that they're in love first? Like really, dinner,
Speaker 2: the dinner? Wait, wait, the dinner. The dinner was that
Speaker 2: not gorgeous?
Speaker 1: And the fly bugs again with cats? She couldn't even
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I feel it a lot, so I related
Speaker 1: to her.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, it's not. But she's got that. You know, it's
Speaker 2: not an acrophobia. I think that's a fear of snakes.
Speaker 2: She's got that scientific fear of I didn't know that
Speaker 2: at the time, fear of bugs. So she really lost it.
Speaker 2: And I was so proud of her that she made
Speaker 2: They deserved to win that challenge. She I mean, she
Speaker 2: got through that. Keith and I were like, Okay, we're
Speaker 2: going to sleep in the cow poop and the bugs
Speaker 2: we don't care. But but she was dying but.
Speaker 1: Used to camping. You've camped, Like, my idea of camping
Speaker 1: is no phone in the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that, You've said that, and and and
Speaker 2: and Bailey saying her idea of camping is you know,
Speaker 2: being at the ritz or whatever, and she.
Speaker 1: Goes, I'll go someplace with you, but I'm not sleeping
Speaker 1: on the tile floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, Dale and kat I mean the things.
Speaker 2: The thing I loved about this episode as as a
Speaker 2: viewer and also just being a mom, I love that
Speaker 2: we really got to see their relationships.
Speaker 1: We really did take care of her, no.
Speaker 2: But all of them. We got to see how they
Speaker 2: really felt about each other and talking with each other,
Speaker 2: and Dale saying to kat I feel.
Speaker 1: Like, Dale, do these things for kat I did, Oh,
Speaker 1: I need to see that.
Speaker 2: Oh he's a gem, He's a gem. But when he
Speaker 2: said that, you feel like home. I just was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, really that and and and Bailey and uh
Speaker 2: not Bailey and Jeremy, uh, Andrew and Alex arguing over
Speaker 2: who's gonna say. I mean, I just felt like that
Speaker 2: they're they're so cute, They're so.
Speaker 1: The best, Like the Cliffhangers. I can't what drama that's
Speaker 1: about to unfold? And then there's four people going home,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what what would I get it? Like,
Speaker 1: the season's almost overset, I have to get all this in.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we've got one more episode. Wait, I
Speaker 2: want to know what you thought about Keith and could
Speaker 2: you please pat me on the back, because I was
Speaker 2: so nice he really he.
Speaker 1: Was all when you first heard it, you were like,
Speaker 1: and then when he was sharing with the young ones
Speaker 1: how he missed his kids and the camping reminded him
Speaker 1: of his children. But then at one point you said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote myself off. It's time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just well, I've said all along, it's you know,
Speaker 2: Keith and I love each other, but not in that way,
Speaker 2: and we weren't going to take money out of kids' hands,
Speaker 2: so you know it was time for us to go,
Speaker 2: or it's going to be time for us to go,
Speaker 2: I think. But here's the thing on on. I feel
Speaker 2: like the kids, really the young is that exemplified to me?
Speaker 2: And I think hopefully in the Bachelor Nation why we
Speaker 2: were there, why we stayed. People kept saying, you know,
Speaker 2: why are they're going home? Because the young people loved
Speaker 2: our advice. They knew we really cared. And I'm glad
Speaker 2: the Bachelor Nation gets to see that. It meant that
Speaker 2: meant a lot to me. But I'll tell you what
Speaker 2: the previews for next week.
Speaker 1: Holy, all these people coming back.
Speaker 2: And then I mean, I don't know. I think I
Speaker 2: think the word shit show comes to mind.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I have no idea what he's going
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: But it's not good. It can't be good dramatic.
Speaker 2: I mean, would it be Bachelor in Paradise if we
Speaker 2: didn't have a little drama?
Speaker 1: I guess not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I wish you and I
Speaker 2: could watch this one together with our popcorn, and I
Speaker 2: know it's going to be It is going to be
Speaker 2: one rough ride next week, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: they're going to get it all in. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a couple hours show right, it's.
Speaker 2: Not going to be, but a lot's gonna happen. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the finale. We're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious about love or money? That was a twist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I said that, I'm curious about that. I
Speaker 2: want to know, you know, is who's going home? Who
Speaker 2: you know? Did anyone get a gage?
Speaker 1: And who's the happy couple? I mean, is there more
Speaker 1: than one?
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna I just wanted all to end
Speaker 2: on a high note, but I'm gonna be sad to
Speaker 2: see it come to an end.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, everything must come to all the things,
Speaker 1: all the things, So make sure everybody tuned in because
Speaker 1: it's going to be dramatic. At your popcorn and your
Speaker 1: wine already and you're chocolate.
Speaker 2: All right, Susan. Should we get in today's episode?
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Everybody please, welcome from this season of Paradise,
Speaker 1: our best in Anty.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: Hi, you look very refreshed and you were on vacation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went a first hair. We know you just
Speaker 2: got back. You were on a cruise with Joan. Give
Speaker 2: me the highlight of that of that trap.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you saw my video the highlights.
Speaker 3: I didn't wear my life jacket for two weeks.
Speaker 2: Listen, that is a highlight. If you if you didn't
Speaker 2: need to, if you did not have to use your
Speaker 2: life jacket, that is a highlight.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That was a solid putting it on on the ship. Like,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that anymore. You just have
Speaker 1: to watch the video.
Speaker 2: I know, well, I know you had warm weather. Did
Speaker 2: you love Grease?
Speaker 3: It was fabulous. I loved Greece. I loved Turkey, which
Speaker 3: I didn't expect to. I didn't know how big Turkey was.
Speaker 3: There's sixteen million people there, and Palermo, and my favorite,
Speaker 3: I think was a Malfi, a Malfi in Santorini. Yes,
Speaker 3: and then we went to Ephesus in Turkey, which is wonderful,
Speaker 3: and saw.
Speaker 2: The Well, we're going to do one, Nancy. We all
Speaker 2: now we need to do another cruise, all all of it.
Speaker 3: So much, Yes, for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, we have so much we want to dive into today.
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and get things started. We gotta
Speaker 2: start with Paradise, Nancy, gotta start with Paris. Okay, how
Speaker 2: were you feeling when you got to the beach? First question,
Speaker 2: how it feel.
Speaker 3: I was feeling excited. It was an incredible experience. I
Speaker 3: as you probably as you I know you guys saw
Speaker 3: I got to come in. I came in late because
Speaker 3: my daughter graduated from college, but I got to come
Speaker 3: in on a GEP driving on the beach with Leah
Speaker 3: and I never met Leyah. That was like a big
Speaker 3: plus already the day and we had so much fun.
Speaker 3: And I truly I didn't know what to expect. I
Speaker 3: knew I would see some of my friends. I knew
Speaker 3: I thought I would see Kathy and then, but I
Speaker 3: didn't know who else would be there. I I really
Speaker 3: didn't have all the details, but I was hoping again
Speaker 3: to meet a guy and have.
Speaker 2: So way a minute before. I want to know who
Speaker 2: you were hoping to see. But hold please, I know
Speaker 2: for a fact. Fast up, Nancy, you knew one guy
Speaker 2: that was going to be there. You want to talk
Speaker 2: about how you knew.
Speaker 3: Which one? Are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Gary?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Fast up? Girlfriend?
Speaker 3: Well, I had talked to Gary many times via text
Speaker 3: and a few times on the phone. Gary Levenstone, he
Speaker 3: and I shared a lot. You know what, He is
Speaker 3: a great personality. He and I are both Christian and
Speaker 3: both loved to talk about it with each other, and
Speaker 3: so that was sort of the foundation. And you know,
Speaker 3: we were hoping we would see each other in paradise,
Speaker 3: and we actually did, as you know. But and I
Speaker 3: wasn't sure what other men were going. But Gary was
Speaker 3: announced obviously, so I knew that he would be going, right,
Speaker 3: was Nancy?
Speaker 1: Did you? Were you hoping somebody else was going to
Speaker 1: be there? That wasn't?
Speaker 3: I was hoping, well, I was hoping there would be
Speaker 3: more men. In general. When I got there, there were
Speaker 3: only three Goldens left, so I was like, and they
Speaker 3: were great, but I was like, okay, is this it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I sort of kept thinking there may be other men coming,
Speaker 3: maybe other people from Jones show, although as we all know,
Speaker 3: most of them already had girlfriends so they come. So
Speaker 3: I truly was thinking, what about the guys who were
Speaker 3: vetted for Gary's show? What about what about Plan B C? Indeed,
Speaker 3: we would have all talked to them at least.
Speaker 1: Right or a new face, a brand new face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that would be great. And to have
Speaker 3: you know, somebody new, so yes, secretly, of course I was.
Speaker 3: I was hoping for that, as I believe all the
Speaker 3: other women were too okay.
Speaker 2: So you when you came in and you had a
Speaker 2: date card, I told us about that, tell us about
Speaker 2: that experience.
Speaker 3: So that felt really good because I had a little power,
Speaker 3: and I talked to again. There were only three guys,
Speaker 3: so I spoke with Keith and Gary and Kim. I
Speaker 3: had never spoken to Kim in my life. I don't
Speaker 3: think I ever talked to Keith. So Kim was very nice.
Speaker 3: He and I had you know, he had lost his spouse.
Speaker 3: I lost my spouse, and so we had that commonality.
Speaker 3: He was very nice. I don't I didn't feel a connection,
Speaker 3: to be honest with him, but he was lovely. And
Speaker 3: then I spoke with Keith. And Keith when we sat down,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a lovely guy, very jolly, and I
Speaker 3: knew he and Kathy were good friends and had a
Speaker 3: good connection. But I just said, hey, you know, it's
Speaker 3: so nice to meet you. I haven't talked to you.
Speaker 3: And he said, Nancy, let's just start out. Where do
Speaker 3: you live? And I said, oh, I live in Alexandria, Virginia.
Speaker 3: And he said, oh, you know what, that could be
Speaker 3: a deal breaker for me. And I said, what do
Speaker 3: you mean?
Speaker 1: And he said, he has twenty people to pick from exactly.
Speaker 2: Any wait, wait, he said, why is it a deal breaker?
Speaker 2: What did he say?
Speaker 3: He said, well, I think that could be a deal breaker.
Speaker 3: And I said, what deal breaker? And he said, well,
Speaker 3: you told me you live in Alexandria, Virginia. He said,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for a woman who lives in southern California. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, do you have a zip code? But
Speaker 3: even but he had already had that in his head,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, so I'm out. So Kim,
Speaker 3: I have no not a real connection with Keith is
Speaker 3: out because he wants somebody from southern California. So I
Speaker 3: get to Gary and Gary says, oh, Nancy, I've been
Speaker 3: waiting for you. Well, certainly that's flattering, right, Parry. It's
Speaker 3: so nice to hang out with you. I you know,
Speaker 3: because we had talked, like I said, and so I said,
Speaker 3: you know, I have to be honest. I want to know.
Speaker 3: I just got here. Do you have a connection with anyone?
Speaker 3: He said, well, I had a date with Leslie. They
Speaker 3: went dancing, and he said the date was great. But
Speaker 3: he said, you know what, Nancy, And he looked me
Speaker 3: straight in the eye and said, I have no romantic
Speaker 3: feelings for Leslie. He said, I've been waiting for you.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what.
Speaker 1: You know, which brings me why I wanted to scream
Speaker 1: when he didn't give you that road.
Speaker 4: Nancy, how you feel We're not wait, we're not even
Speaker 4: there yet. So I said, oh, great, want to go
Speaker 4: on a date with me? Like you said, he's waiting
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: How lovely?
Speaker 2: And wait? So we wait, Nancy, I want I want
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm getting this. He said. He had
Speaker 2: no romantic connection with Leslie's. He said this after his
Speaker 2: date with her. Yes, correct, Okay, all right, carry.
Speaker 3: On because I had gotten there and they had already
Speaker 3: had to date the date.
Speaker 2: Got it okay?
Speaker 3: So then I said okay, oh oh well, and I
Speaker 3: was flattered and I thought, you know what, I'd love
Speaker 3: to get to know you. That's how I felt. I
Speaker 3: asked him on the date. Now we all saw we
Speaker 3: didn't have the best date, but we had a crazy date.
Speaker 3: You were We had to move our body, we had
Speaker 3: to like anyway. It was crazy, but we had fun.
Speaker 3: But we didn't you know, it was pouring down rain
Speaker 3: in the jungle. We had to get out. He had
Speaker 3: to help me because they made me put on one
Speaker 3: of the producer's shoes because it's muddy. I mean, it
Speaker 3: was a whole process, but it was fun. It was
Speaker 3: an adventure. And I kept saying, hey, Gary, you owe
Speaker 3: me one and he said why and I said, you
Speaker 3: would have had to dress up like a bird.
Speaker 2: It was So did you feel like the date went well, Nancy?
Speaker 2: Did you feel like the date went.
Speaker 3: I thought the date went well. He said, this was
Speaker 3: really fun. He goes, it was weird and I said,
Speaker 3: totally weird, but we made it fun. And I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, at our age, we have to get
Speaker 3: out there and do something adventurous.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Say to you, Well, we got back. It was very late,
Speaker 3: like midnight, and we got back and he said, okay,
Speaker 3: well I'll see you in the morning. And I gave
Speaker 3: him a kiss on the cheek and that was it.
Speaker 2: So then then what happened the next day?
Speaker 3: So the next day we were all kind of standing
Speaker 3: around and you know, talking to people. I was swimming,
Speaker 3: he was swimming, He and Keith were talking to Everybody's
Speaker 3: kind of milling around and it's a rose night. So
Speaker 3: I talked to him again and I said the same thing. So, Gary,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of like, Okay, what's the deal? What
Speaker 3: do you think? And he goes, Nancy, that was so
Speaker 3: fun last night, and he said, I told you I
Speaker 3: have no this is the day of the rose ceremony.
Speaker 3: I have no romantic connection with Leslie.
Speaker 1: And I said, great, looks like I'm staying.
Speaker 2: Looks like I would, Susan. I think we all three
Speaker 2: can agree the second time today, all three of us
Speaker 2: would think we were getting the rose. So, Nancy, it
Speaker 2: begs the question, what did you feel like when he
Speaker 2: gave the rose to Leslie? You must have fallen, wanted
Speaker 2: to fall over.
Speaker 1: I watched your face. You were perfect composure. By the way,
Speaker 1: thank you, But.
Speaker 3: How would you guys feel He told me one thing
Speaker 3: and he did another. Yeah, his actions, his words didn't
Speaker 3: line up with what his actions were. He did not
Speaker 3: tell me the truth. And I felt like I was played.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Natasha felt the same way, because
Speaker 1: he was saying what a great time he was with Natasha,
Speaker 1: I know, And.
Speaker 3: I had told Natasha by the way she had said,
Speaker 3: oh you know, I had given Gary the rose. And
Speaker 3: I said, Natasha, I gave Gary the rose because of
Speaker 3: what he said to me, and because we have talked
Speaker 3: before Paradise, and so I just wanted to get him to,
Speaker 3: you know, get to know him better. But he said
Speaker 3: he didn't have any connections with anybody else.
Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you, Nancy, you said, how
Speaker 2: would I feel if it happened to be I think
Speaker 2: we all can agree. I probably would have gone down
Speaker 2: and ripped the rose out of his hand and said,
Speaker 2: that's mine. Good for you, Nancy. Well, I'm sorry because
Speaker 2: I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: I know what I would you? Did you not think
Speaker 1: for a minute, like just to look at him say really, yeah, really,
Speaker 1: that's not how I understood it, like call him on it.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much clearer you can be when
Speaker 3: someone says I've been waiting for you, I have no
Speaker 3: romantic connection with anyone else here? What what would you?
Speaker 3: I didn't say verbatim? Are you giving me the rose?
Speaker 3: I said, I just said, hey, Gary, do you have
Speaker 3: any other connections? Tell me today? Like I would have
Speaker 3: rather been prepared, because I truly wasn't. It's not telling
Speaker 3: me how great I was. He told Natasha how great
Speaker 3: she was. That's fine, But he literally looked me in
Speaker 3: the eye and said, I have no romantic connection or
Speaker 3: feeling for Leslie.
Speaker 1: So what's that tell you about Gary that he didn't
Speaker 1: tell the truth?
Speaker 3: I mean out didn't not to me.
Speaker 1: He just seems like he's playing women, He's playing all three,
Speaker 1: keeping them all right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What clearly I'm not sad about it. My guy wasn't there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so I know truly, and you guys know me
Speaker 3: better than most people. You know, in my heart, I
Speaker 3: still believe there are great and I know there are
Speaker 3: great guys out there, and I'm still open to finding
Speaker 3: them and you will.
Speaker 2: Nancy, You and I are going to be each other's
Speaker 2: wing woman because Susan's taken.
Speaker 3: Now at the villages.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I want to not happening. I want to
Speaker 2: move on because we've talked a little bit about your
Speaker 2: time with Partis, but we've got to talk about April,
Speaker 2: because how much fun Susan.
Speaker 1: We hated this was missing before it was that was missing.
Speaker 1: Now the s was Now.
Speaker 3: That Susan has love, It's like, okay, come on, but.
Speaker 2: What did you mean tell me about when we were
Speaker 2: hanging out on the bed. It was you me, April
Speaker 2: faith from Prentic who else?
Speaker 3: Of course, six of us or five of us. It
Speaker 3: was so much fun. Clearly it brought back the summer
Speaker 3: camp feel was at the Bachelor Mansion two years ago,
Speaker 3: and that was really fun and it was fun to
Speaker 3: see everybody and everybody, you know what. Everybody was nice.
Speaker 3: We're all adults. There was no cattiness. I think we
Speaker 3: all were just happy to be there.
Speaker 1: Nancy, get you there to witness the body shot or
Speaker 1: the smelling of the underwear. Were you there at that
Speaker 1: point when April.
Speaker 3: On teaving it was bad enough? I don't know, she person,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. The underwear took me over the edge.
Speaker 3: My father called me and said, did he really just
Speaker 3: take off those underwear? And did she really just them?
Speaker 3: He goes and.
Speaker 1: Then her bra I think she did it to be amusing.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it was great to see April.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know it, all that stuff that had
Speaker 2: gone on and we were just over it was we all.
Speaker 3: I'm just so proud of all of us that how
Speaker 3: much we've grown, obviously even since the show. But it
Speaker 3: was fun to all be there and that was one
Speaker 3: of the best parts and also for me and I
Speaker 3: know you Kathy too, that we all came together and it.
Speaker 1: Was just like two years ago, but it will always
Speaker 1: be that way for us.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It's called a friendship, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I and I loved that time that
Speaker 3: we were all on the bed and anyway, I wish
Speaker 3: I was still there, but I wish all of them,
Speaker 3: you know, lots of love. Who's ever still there?
Speaker 1: So you're watching as we all are, yes, and like,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling right about? Now? What's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm just amazed Kathy and I are beside ourselves over here.
Speaker 2: But I just want to say, Nancy, I was so
Speaker 2: excited to see you in Paradise and I was shocked
Speaker 2: when you went home. I'm getting all this story today,
Speaker 2: but I was like, wait, why is she going home?
Speaker 2: Because can?
Speaker 3: I forgot to say one thing, Kathy, sure that I
Speaker 3: think is important. Not only did Gary tell me that
Speaker 3: he was waiting for me and that he had no
Speaker 3: romantic connection with anyone else, and he mentioned Leslie, you know,
Speaker 3: by name, he also told other people, other Golden's on
Speaker 3: the show, the exact same thing that I mean. And
Speaker 3: that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make him look too good, does.
Speaker 3: It, don't think so? But well let's see the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I just want you to know you deserve
Speaker 2: a second, third, fourth chance. I love Nancy because you
Speaker 2: are a lovely person. I'm sorry that you weren't there longer,
Speaker 2: and you're right, it's every man's loss. Keith, if you're listening,
Speaker 2: I love you as a friend, but dear God in Heaven,
Speaker 2: move that girl out there and move along. Because I
Speaker 2: love Nancy and Fred. You could have had a great
Speaker 2: friend and a gorgeous woman all together.
Speaker 3: Thank you. My guy's not there and you are.
Speaker 1: You are open and ready for a relationship, Am I right?
Speaker 3: Yes? Please advertise that.
Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Nancy, I would have put signs on our back thank
Speaker 2: you at the villages.
Speaker 3: Just kidding.
Speaker 2: So what anything else you've been up to? Anything else
Speaker 2: going on your life? That?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Take him a problem.
Speaker 3: As you guys know, with Joan, I privileged to go
Speaker 3: on that trip and and I know you guys had
Speaker 3: been on a cruise before that. And so I'm I'm
Speaker 3: just back and ready and we'll be looking for my guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, So guys, if you're listening, it sounds like dance
Speaker 2: is going to be on on on dating apps.
Speaker 3: I'll help you with the problem at a time. I'm
Speaker 3: going to I'll help you. I'll just flip through.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, listen, we are going to move into
Speaker 2: our advice portion, Nancy of.
Speaker 3: This advice, do you need any advice from.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna happen. Yes, we're going to join. We're
Speaker 2: going to do the question of the day. And that's
Speaker 2: how we always kick it off with the question of
Speaker 2: the day. And I'd love, we would love to get
Speaker 2: your thoughts on it. Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2: What is something that still frustrates you about men when
Speaker 2: it comes to dating that you hoped they would have
Speaker 2: outgrown with age and Nancy, way, can I just say
Speaker 2: this is not a six day podcast, so you got
Speaker 2: to keep the list relatively short.
Speaker 3: No, I only have one talking about themselves and not
Speaker 3: asking questions about you.
Speaker 1: That's mine, not asking questions. Yes, yes, wow. I sometimes
Speaker 1: have to believe that some men not all when they
Speaker 1: start talking about themselves because they're nervous a lot of
Speaker 1: times they're not used to the dating. Maybe they're just
Speaker 1: getting out there as well and it's nervous energy.
Speaker 3: Right, No, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's really given them the benefit of that. Right now, Well,
Speaker 1: you're you're very nice and Kathy, what is yours?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sitting there thinking that's definitely high on
Speaker 2: my list, Nancy andswers and I agree with you, guys.
Speaker 2: I think something that frustrates me about dating is at
Speaker 2: and I talked about it on one of the episodes
Speaker 2: in Batchelor and Paradise at our age. Dating can look
Speaker 2: very different, and I wish that men could look at
Speaker 2: dating with a broader stroke, that you could be dating.
Speaker 2: You could become really good friends like Keith and I.
Speaker 2: You can be it doesn't have to be this romantic
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. I wish they would widen their
Speaker 2: their scope of what dating looks like. I guess.
Speaker 1: But then it wouldn't be dating.
Speaker 2: Well, of course it would be.
Speaker 1: It would be hanging out with a friend, but that's
Speaker 1: not dating. Dating is something where you kiss, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Friendship and having a do things with
Speaker 1: what is that member?
Speaker 3: We're not We're not in the same position as you
Speaker 3: are right now?
Speaker 2: Will your word season?
Speaker 1: Could you say that I get pleased the making out sessions.
Speaker 3: You're doing that all the time.
Speaker 1: We know long distance.
Speaker 3: Remember, I know we're happy for you.
Speaker 1: We are, But I think we all agree on that, right,
Speaker 1: Or staying on their cell phone during a dinner like
Speaker 1: we could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait a minute, outgrown, I mean they've always had
Speaker 2: that is a red flag. That's not our going it.
Speaker 2: That's an e're over, e'ar out on the curb exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so now we're going to answer one
Speaker 1: of our listeners questions. You ready, This one is from Anonymous.
Speaker 1: I love your podcast. I live in La Quinta, California,
Speaker 1: and I am fifty six years old, single mother of four,
Speaker 1: youngest of seventeen. I wanted to comment regarding a recent episode,
Speaker 1: specifically your section on agism. I found myself agreeing with
Speaker 1: most of what you girls said. I don't know what
Speaker 1: day I woke up with a neon sign over my
Speaker 1: head reading senior citizen me either, Babe. It really bothers
Speaker 1: me because, along with a recent incident at a restaurant,
Speaker 1: I have also been dealing with a lot of agism
Speaker 1: at work. More and more, I am overlooked for birthday celebrations,
Speaker 1: after work meetups, and I've started hearing from our big
Speaker 1: boss how I should really think about taking retirement. Earl already,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, older, that's the laws can you believe
Speaker 1: he says it? He is older than me, and he
Speaker 1: recently came out of retirement to come back to work.
Speaker 1: That aside, I heard and took to heart everything you
Speaker 1: girl shared. But additionally, I like to ask, what would
Speaker 1: you suggest as a firm, yet cordial way to respond
Speaker 1: to these obvious instances of age discrimination. Don't enjoy coming
Speaker 1: to work anymore, even though I like my job and
Speaker 1: do plan to think about retirement for at least seven years.
Speaker 1: Thank you in advance. How does she deal? What would
Speaker 1: you have her?
Speaker 2: Soa?
Speaker 3: I say, Nancy, I am I'm speechless. I think I
Speaker 3: can't believe it's still going on. Honestly, it is, and
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: That's because you're so young, Nancy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, at least you have the job,
Speaker 1: but try and get a job when you're older too. Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this question, this question to me is so simple, Nancy.
Speaker 2: But honestly, you're you're young, Nancy, a lot younger than
Speaker 2: we are, and you could still be in the workforce
Speaker 2: and not be not be told this, but let's just
Speaker 2: say you were older. I can't believe the first words
Speaker 2: out of your mouth, because this is who you are
Speaker 2: Nancy is speak the truth, tell them how you feel.
Speaker 3: Right, I was going to say, own it and keep moving.
Speaker 3: You know how she let them have the power of
Speaker 3: dictating how you feel.
Speaker 2: Would you would you tell them that it's age discrimination.
Speaker 2: Would you say it.
Speaker 3: In a nice way?
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 3: You can say it a nice way, but you can
Speaker 3: still get the point across.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, who's going to recommend that I take an
Speaker 1: early retirement. I have more spunk than you people like.
Speaker 1: That's how I would. I would handle it. You know,
Speaker 1: look at you.
Speaker 2: If you can't say that to your boss.
Speaker 1: Well no, not to your boss.
Speaker 3: Well that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Maybe he came back to work. That's a perfect example.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, I always handle things with humor. I'd
Speaker 2: be saying that the guy's name was Joe. I'd be saying, hey, Joe,
Speaker 2: you know we're about the same vintage here at like
Speaker 2: good wine, we get better with age. I plan on
Speaker 2: working for at least another ten years. I hope you
Speaker 2: stick around too. I would would also would get the
Speaker 2: point across, but it would be a humorous way of
Speaker 2: getting the point across.
Speaker 3: But even when I addressed it, confused and say what
Speaker 3: are you talking about that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Are you saying I'm old?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're trying to say? You?
Speaker 3: Did I get that? Did I hear you correctly? Could
Speaker 3: you repeat that please? And then you like to record
Speaker 3: that and then you just look at them.
Speaker 1: It's like, seriously, why.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she's not We don't know how
Speaker 2: old you are, Anonymous. Oh yeah, you're fifty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not old.
Speaker 2: Wait can I say she said she's going to work
Speaker 2: another Sorry yet, what did you say? Niets?
Speaker 3: I just said that's not old. No, No, that's not
Speaker 3: old enough to be to have age discrimination.
Speaker 2: Right. Never, you're never You're never too old, that you're
Speaker 2: always you know what I'm saying, That should never happen.
Speaker 2: But here's I would like to propose to Anonymous. Here's
Speaker 2: the silver lining here. I have a single friend who
Speaker 2: just moved to Laquinta, who lives on a golf course.
Speaker 2: Perhaps you would like me to hook you up.
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, why is she feeling Anonymous? You're
Speaker 1: saying a neon sign reading senior citizen. You are not
Speaker 1: and I repeat not considered a senior citizen.
Speaker 3: You're not exactly right.
Speaker 1: Why are you allowing people to make you feel that way.
Speaker 1: You're in your fifties.
Speaker 2: Man, Wait a second, use wait a minute here, we're
Speaker 2: in our sixties. I'm in my early seventies. I don't
Speaker 2: think I'm a senior citizen. I don't act like that,
Speaker 2: and no one your right, Susan, don't let anyone tell
Speaker 2: you how you should feel.
Speaker 1: I do want my discounts when they're.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you're saying you're in your fifties. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if you're seventy, who has the right to call you
Speaker 2: a senior citizen?
Speaker 1: Disparage, especially when you're.
Speaker 3: Not one, especially when you're not right.
Speaker 1: Yes, like, talk to me ten years little Putts. Did
Speaker 1: you say Butts Putts Butts Putts?
Speaker 2: Nancy, I'm a name, I know, okay, you know what
Speaker 2: It's better than anyone. Nance. Do you have any questions
Speaker 2: or things that listeners should know about us.
Speaker 1: That they don't already know.
Speaker 3: Have you guys held anything back? I mean.
Speaker 2: Have not lately? Not lately, Nancy, not lately.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think I think one thing
Speaker 3: that is true of both of you, and I'll say
Speaker 3: it together, is that Kathy and Susan they're different personalities.
Speaker 3: But Kathy and Susan you could call at three am
Speaker 3: and say, hell, I need you. Whatever it is is wrong,
Speaker 3: and both of them would come to your rescue.
Speaker 1: And you would too if you answered the phone.
Speaker 3: Tell me about that. But my point is, you, guys,
Speaker 3: people may not know that about you, like you are
Speaker 3: loyal friends, and you would, as Kathy uses this expression,
Speaker 3: which I love, walk on hot coals for us, and
Speaker 3: both of you would do.
Speaker 2: Wait, let's do heart's hearts.
Speaker 3: It almost looks like a butt like, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: And for those of them the heart.
Speaker 2: Fancy that is so sweet of you to say. And Edie,
Speaker 2: you're right by the way, and you would do the same.
Speaker 2: I think people listeners always ask are you guys really friends?
Speaker 2: We get it all the time, and the truth is
Speaker 2: we are dear friends and we would walk on hot
Speaker 2: coals for each other. And that is just one of
Speaker 2: the gifts of being part of this bachelor world.
Speaker 1: And you realize that some of the fans are getting
Speaker 1: upset with me because I haven't holked Kathy up with
Speaker 1: somebody in our travels.
Speaker 2: They should get on it. Yeah, she might be particular,
Speaker 2: who knows, Hey, Nancy should we be particular.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what you want and you.
Speaker 1: Get absolutely age for the big guns. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: What is your perfect guy? An?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: What is your What does your perfect guy look like?
Speaker 2: What does your perfect scenario look like?
Speaker 1: Nancy?
Speaker 3: Always love that guy, charm I want? So?
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you I had a hope for
Speaker 2: Liam Neeson because he said he wasn't dating anymore. Now
Speaker 2: he is leam Neson is all over the New City.
Speaker 2: Wasn't dating Pamela Anderson?
Speaker 3: She doesn't and she doesn't wear makeup.
Speaker 2: I cannot compete.
Speaker 1: Fortunately, I'm going to have to say that does it
Speaker 1: for this episode? It went too fast?
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but we will have you back again,
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 5: What Okay, we have to end this episode of Bachelor
Speaker 5: Happy Hours Golden Hour, and thanks to our lovely friend
Speaker 5: and guest Nancy for joining us and giving some great advice.
Speaker 2: We love you, Nancy, we adore you, Nance, and thank
Speaker 2: the rest of y'all for listening and joining us. Be
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Speaker 1: Thank you,