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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Kathy

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Speaker 1: and I are back and we're so excited to be back.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to check out our latest episode. We have

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Speaker 2: been having so much fun answering your questions and chatting

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Speaker 2: with your Bachelor Nation fas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, today we have a very special guest. But before

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Speaker 1: we let her in, Kathy, we've got to talk about

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Speaker 1: paradise this week.

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Speaker 2: Oh m, I don't know where do you want to start?

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to.

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Speaker 1: First of all, camping with the poop, the horseman or

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Speaker 1: the bugs. Cat was going crazy and you on the table.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to die. I never laughed at least, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: That's my Kathy.

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Speaker 2: I could see you doing it at all. Keith and I.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, Keith and I were reading

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Speaker 2: the instructions like we're putting everything together. We love it.

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Speaker 2: I love to camp. He loves to camp. All the

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Speaker 2: other kids are going, oh the bugs the months. I'm like, god,

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Speaker 2: they're bugs.

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Speaker 1: I mean we you would have stayed all night, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Keith and I were like we thought we were

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Speaker 2: staying all night. I got up to go get wood

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Speaker 2: to make a fire. They're like, where are you going, Kathy?

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna make a fire, and they go

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Speaker 2: get back to your campsite. I mean, I to me,

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Speaker 2: that was honestly the most fun day of paradise for me.

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Speaker 1: If I were there, that would have been my worst nightmare.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been as loud

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Speaker 1: and obvious as Kat, but I would have been crying

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Speaker 1: the bugs, the bug.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't. And Keith was just we had

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Speaker 2: a sweet conversation, and you know, I just miss him

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Speaker 2: when I when I when I go back and watch him.

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Speaker 2: But we've got to talk about but.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, one more thing. Okay, that the doctor

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Speaker 1: that was listening and her point of view afterwards, that

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Speaker 1: was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna to tell you I think she

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Speaker 2: hit it one hundred percent. So she did Keith in

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Speaker 2: me first, and I mean she hit it one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: But she hit everyone one hundred percent except I think

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Speaker 2: for Alex and Andrew. And I say that.

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Speaker 1: I think it brought them closer. Do you see what

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Speaker 1: happened afterwards?

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Speaker 2: I loved Alex and Andrew do laugh a lot and

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Speaker 2: have a great time, and they are just both have

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Speaker 2: very silly, fun personalities. And I think doctor Burman maybe

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Speaker 2: read that. I mean, what do I know she's got

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Speaker 2: the PhD?

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Speaker 1: Not because they didn't kiss a lot, They don't, you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh I saw plenty of kissing.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I saw plenty of kissing.

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Speaker 1: Well for what we see, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But afterwards and they actually admit it that they're falling

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Speaker 1: for each other.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was so sweet. Was it so cute

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Speaker 2: when they said who was going to argue over who

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Speaker 2: said I love you first? I know, I'm sitting there, Susan,

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going I'll say it first. Just find

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Speaker 2: something for me to say it to, like really, this

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Speaker 2: is these are the young, and they argue about who's

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Speaker 2: gonna tell whom that they're in love first? Like really, dinner,

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Speaker 2: the dinner? Wait, wait, the dinner. The dinner was that

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Speaker 2: not gorgeous?

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Speaker 1: And the fly bugs again with cats? She couldn't even

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I feel it a lot, so I related

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable, it's not. But she's got that. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: not an acrophobia. I think that's a fear of snakes.

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Speaker 2: She's got that scientific fear of I didn't know that

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Speaker 2: at the time, fear of bugs. So she really lost it.

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Speaker 2: And I was so proud of her that she made

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Speaker 2: They deserved to win that challenge. She I mean, she

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Speaker 2: got through that. Keith and I were like, Okay, we're

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Speaker 2: going to sleep in the cow poop and the bugs

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Speaker 2: we don't care. But but she was dying but.

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Speaker 1: Used to camping. You've camped, Like, my idea of camping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that, You've said that, and and and

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Speaker 2: and Bailey saying her idea of camping is you know,

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Speaker 2: being at the ritz or whatever, and she.

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Speaker 1: Goes, I'll go someplace with you, but I'm not sleeping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, Dale and kat I mean the things.

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Speaker 2: The thing I loved about this episode as as a

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Speaker 2: we really got to see their relationships.

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Speaker 1: We really did take care of her, no.

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Speaker 2: But all of them. We got to see how they

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Speaker 2: really felt about each other and talking with each other,

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Speaker 2: and Dale saying to kat I feel.

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Speaker 1: Like, Dale, do these things for kat I did, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I need to see that.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's a gem, He's a gem. But when he

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Speaker 2: said that, you feel like home. I just was like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, really that and and and Bailey and uh

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Speaker 2: who's gonna say. I mean, I just felt like that

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Speaker 2: they're they're so cute, They're so.

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Speaker 1: The best, Like the Cliffhangers. I can't what drama that's

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Speaker 1: about to unfold? And then there's four people going home,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what what would I get it? Like,

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Speaker 1: the season's almost overset, I have to get all this in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we've got one more episode. Wait, I

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Speaker 2: want to know what you thought about Keith and could

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Speaker 2: you please pat me on the back, because I was

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Speaker 2: so nice he really he.

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Speaker 1: Was all when you first heard it, you were like,

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Speaker 1: and then when he was sharing with the young ones

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Speaker 1: how he missed his kids and the camping reminded him

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Speaker 1: of his children. But then at one point you said,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to vote myself off. It's time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just well, I've said all along, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: Keith and I love each other, but not in that way,

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Speaker 2: and we weren't going to take money out of kids' hands,

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Speaker 2: so you know it was time for us to go,

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Speaker 2: or it's going to be time for us to go,

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Speaker 2: I think. But here's the thing on on. I feel

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Speaker 2: like the kids, really the young is that exemplified to me?

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Speaker 2: And I think hopefully in the Bachelor Nation why we

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Speaker 2: were there, why we stayed. People kept saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: why are they're going home? Because the young people loved

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Speaker 2: our advice. They knew we really cared. And I'm glad

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Speaker 2: the Bachelor Nation gets to see that. It meant that

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Speaker 2: meant a lot to me. But I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: the previews for next week.

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Speaker 1: Holy, all these people coming back.

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Speaker 2: And then I mean, I don't know. I think I

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Speaker 2: think the word shit show comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: What.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I have no idea what he's going

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: But it's not good. It can't be good dramatic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, would it be Bachelor in Paradise if we

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Speaker 2: didn't have a little drama?

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Speaker 1: I guess not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I wish you and I

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Speaker 2: could watch this one together with our popcorn, and I

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Speaker 2: know it's going to be It is going to be

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Speaker 2: one rough ride next week, and I don't know how

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Speaker 2: they're going to get it all in. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's a couple hours show right, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not going to be, but a lot's gonna happen. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the finale. We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 1: I'm so curious about love or money? That was a twist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I said that, I'm curious about that. I

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Speaker 2: want to know, you know, is who's going home? Who

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Speaker 2: you know? Did anyone get a gage?

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Speaker 1: And who's the happy couple? I mean, is there more

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Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna I just wanted all to end

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Speaker 2: on a high note, but I'm gonna be sad to

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Speaker 2: see it come to an end.

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course, everything must come to all the things,

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Speaker 1: all the things, So make sure everybody tuned in because

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Speaker 1: it's going to be dramatic. At your popcorn and your

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Speaker 1: wine already and you're chocolate.

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Speaker 2: All right, Susan. Should we get in today's episode?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Everybody please, welcome from this season of Paradise,

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Speaker 1: our best in Anty.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hi, you look very refreshed and you were on vacation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went a first hair. We know you just

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Speaker 2: got back. You were on a cruise with Joan. Give

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Speaker 2: me the highlight of that of that trap.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you saw my video the highlights.

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Speaker 3: I didn't wear my life jacket for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Listen, that is a highlight. If you if you didn't

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Speaker 2: need to, if you did not have to use your

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Speaker 2: life jacket, that is a highlight.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: That was a solid putting it on on the ship. Like,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to do that anymore. You just have

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Speaker 1: to watch the video.

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Speaker 2: I know, well, I know you had warm weather. Did

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Speaker 2: you love Grease?

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Speaker 3: It was fabulous. I loved Greece. I loved Turkey, which

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Speaker 3: I didn't expect to. I didn't know how big Turkey was.

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Speaker 3: There's sixteen million people there, and Palermo, and my favorite,

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Speaker 3: I think was a Malfi, a Malfi in Santorini. Yes,

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Speaker 2: The Well, we're going to do one, Nancy. We all

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Speaker 2: now we need to do another cruise, all all of it.

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Speaker 3: So much, Yes, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have so much we want to dive into today.

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Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and get things started. We gotta

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Speaker 2: start with Paradise, Nancy, gotta start with Paris. Okay, how

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Speaker 2: were you feeling when you got to the beach? First question,

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Speaker 2: how it feel.

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Speaker 3: I was feeling excited. It was an incredible experience. I

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Speaker 3: as you probably as you I know you guys saw

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Speaker 3: I got to come in. I came in late because

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Speaker 3: my daughter graduated from college, but I got to come

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Speaker 3: in on a GEP driving on the beach with Leah

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Speaker 3: and I never met Leyah. That was like a big

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Speaker 3: plus already the day and we had so much fun.

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Speaker 3: And I truly I didn't know what to expect. I

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Speaker 3: knew I would see some of my friends. I knew

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Speaker 3: I thought I would see Kathy and then, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't know who else would be there. I I really

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Speaker 3: didn't have all the details, but I was hoping again

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Speaker 3: to meet a guy and have.

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Speaker 2: So way a minute before. I want to know who

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Speaker 2: you were hoping to see. But hold please, I know

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Speaker 2: for a fact. Fast up, Nancy, you knew one guy

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Speaker 2: that was going to be there. You want to talk

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Speaker 2: about how you knew.

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Speaker 3: Which one? Are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Gary?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh? Fast up? Girlfriend?

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Speaker 3: Well, I had talked to Gary many times via text

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Speaker 3: and a few times on the phone. Gary Levenstone, he

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Speaker 3: and I shared a lot. You know what, He is

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Speaker 3: a great personality. He and I are both Christian and

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Speaker 3: both loved to talk about it with each other, and

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Speaker 3: so that was sort of the foundation. And you know,

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Speaker 3: So then I said okay, oh oh well, and I

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Speaker 1: And I said, great, looks like I'm staying.

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Speaker 2: Looks like I would, Susan. I think we all three

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Speaker 2: begs the question, what did you feel like when he

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Speaker 1: And I feel like Natasha felt the same way, because

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Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you, Nancy, you said, how

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Speaker 1: I know what I would you? Did you not think

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Speaker 3: I didn't say verbatim? Are you giving me the rose?

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Speaker 3: I said, I just said, hey, Gary, do you have

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Speaker 1: So what's that tell you about Gary that he didn't

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Speaker 1: He just seems like he's playing women, He's playing all three,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What clearly I'm not sad about it. My guy wasn't there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Nancy, You and I are going to be each other's

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Speaker 3: Now at the villages.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I want to not happening. I want to

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Speaker 2: because how much fun Susan.

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Speaker 1: We hated this was missing before it was that was missing.

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Speaker 3: That Susan has love, It's like, okay, come on, but.

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Speaker 2: What did you mean tell me about when we were

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Speaker 3: Of course, six of us or five of us. It

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Speaker 3: We're all adults. There was no cattiness. I think we

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Speaker 1: Nancy, get you there to witness the body shot or

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Speaker 3: On teaving it was bad enough? I don't know, she person,

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Speaker 3: My father called me and said, did he really just

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it was great to see April.

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Speaker 3: I'm just so proud of all of us that how

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Speaker 1: Was just like two years ago, but it will always

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's called a friendship, that's right.

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Speaker 3: we were all on the bed and anyway, I wish

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00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: I was still there, but I wish all of them,

442
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: you know, lots of love. Who's ever still there?

443
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: So you're watching as we all are, yes, and like,

444
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: how are you feeling right about? Now? What's going on?

445
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm just amazed Kathy and I are beside ourselves over here.

446
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: But I just want to say, Nancy, I was so

447
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: excited to see you in Paradise and I was shocked

448
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: when you went home. I'm getting all this story today,

449
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: but I was like, wait, why is she going home?

450
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: Because can?

451
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: I forgot to say one thing, Kathy, sure that I

452
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: think is important. Not only did Gary tell me that

453
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 3: he was waiting for me and that he had no

454
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 3: romantic connection with anyone else, and he mentioned Leslie, you know,

455
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: by name, he also told other people, other Golden's on

456
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: the show, the exact same thing that I mean. And

457
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 3: that's a fact.

458
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: Doesn't make him look too good, does.

459
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: It, don't think so? But well let's see the problem.

460
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I just want you to know you deserve

461
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 2: a second, third, fourth chance. I love Nancy because you

462
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: are a lovely person. I'm sorry that you weren't there longer,

463
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: and you're right, it's every man's loss. Keith, if you're listening,

464
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: I love you as a friend, but dear God in Heaven,

465
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: move that girl out there and move along. Because I

466
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: love Nancy and Fred. You could have had a great

467
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 2: friend and a gorgeous woman all together.

468
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: Thank you. My guy's not there and you are.

469
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: You are open and ready for a relationship, Am I right?

470
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: Yes? Please advertise that.

471
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Everybody?

472
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: Nancy, I would have put signs on our back thank

473
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: you at the villages.

474
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: Just kidding.

475
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: So what anything else you've been up to? Anything else

476
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: going on your life? That?

477
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: Well?

478
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: Take him a problem.

479
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: As you guys know, with Joan, I privileged to go

480
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: on that trip and and I know you guys had

481
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 3: been on a cruise before that. And so I'm I'm

482
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: just back and ready and we'll be looking for my guy.

483
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So guys, if you're listening, it sounds like dance

484
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: is going to be on on on dating apps.

485
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: I'll help you with the problem at a time. I'm

486
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: going to I'll help you. I'll just flip through.

487
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all.

488
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, listen, we are going to move into

489
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: our advice portion, Nancy of.

490
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: This advice, do you need any advice from.

491
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna happen. Yes, we're going to join. We're

492
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: going to do the question of the day. And that's

493
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: how we always kick it off with the question of

494
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: the day. And I'd love, we would love to get

495
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: your thoughts on it. Okay, all right, here we go.

496
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: What is something that still frustrates you about men when

497
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: it comes to dating that you hoped they would have

498
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: outgrown with age and Nancy, way, can I just say

499
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: this is not a six day podcast, so you got

500
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: to keep the list relatively short.

501
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: No, I only have one talking about themselves and not

502
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: asking questions about you.

503
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: That's mine, not asking questions. Yes, yes, wow. I sometimes

504
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: have to believe that some men not all when they

505
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: start talking about themselves because they're nervous a lot of

506
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: times they're not used to the dating. Maybe they're just

507
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: getting out there as well and it's nervous energy.

508
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: Right, No, that's true.

509
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: That's really given them the benefit of that. Right now, Well,

510
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: you're you're very nice and Kathy, what is yours?

511
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sitting there thinking that's definitely high on

512
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: my list, Nancy andswers and I agree with you, guys.

513
00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 2: I think something that frustrates me about dating is at

514
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: and I talked about it on one of the episodes

515
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: in Batchelor and Paradise at our age. Dating can look

516
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: very different, and I wish that men could look at

517
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: dating with a broader stroke, that you could be dating.

518
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: You could become really good friends like Keith and I.

519
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: You can be it doesn't have to be this romantic

520
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. I wish they would widen their

521
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: their scope of what dating looks like. I guess.

522
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: But then it wouldn't be dating.

523
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 2: Well, of course it would be.

524
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: It would be hanging out with a friend, but that's

525
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: not dating. Dating is something where you kiss, you know

526
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: what I mean? Friendship and having a do things with

527
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: what is that member?

528
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: We're not We're not in the same position as you

529
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: are right now?

530
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: Will your word season?

531
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: Could you say that I get pleased the making out sessions.

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: You're doing that all the time.

533
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: We know long distance.

534
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 3: Remember, I know we're happy for you.

535
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: We are, But I think we all agree on that, right,

536
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: Or staying on their cell phone during a dinner like

537
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: we could.

538
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait a minute, outgrown, I mean they've always had

539
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: that is a red flag. That's not our going it.

540
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: That's an e're over, e'ar out on the curb exactly.

541
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so now we're going to answer one

542
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: of our listeners questions. You ready, This one is from Anonymous.

543
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: I love your podcast. I live in La Quinta, California,

544
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: and I am fifty six years old, single mother of four,

545
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: youngest of seventeen. I wanted to comment regarding a recent episode,

546
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: specifically your section on agism. I found myself agreeing with

547
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: most of what you girls said. I don't know what

548
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: day I woke up with a neon sign over my

549
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: head reading senior citizen me either, Babe. It really bothers

550
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: me because, along with a recent incident at a restaurant,

551
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: I have also been dealing with a lot of agism

552
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: at work. More and more, I am overlooked for birthday celebrations,

553
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: after work meetups, and I've started hearing from our big

554
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: boss how I should really think about taking retirement. Earl already,

555
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: wait a minute, older, that's the laws can you believe

556
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: he says it? He is older than me, and he

557
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: recently came out of retirement to come back to work.

558
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: That aside, I heard and took to heart everything you

559
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: girl shared. But additionally, I like to ask, what would

560
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: you suggest as a firm, yet cordial way to respond

561
00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: to these obvious instances of age discrimination. Don't enjoy coming

562
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: to work anymore, even though I like my job and

563
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: do plan to think about retirement for at least seven years.

564
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Thank you in advance. How does she deal? What would

565
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: you have her?

566
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Soa?

567
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: I say, Nancy, I am I'm speechless. I think I

568
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: can't believe it's still going on. Honestly, it is, and

569
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: it is.

570
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: That's because you're so young, Nancy.

571
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

572
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, at least you have the job,

573
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: but try and get a job when you're older too. Well.

574
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this question, this question to me is so simple, Nancy.

575
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: But honestly, you're you're young, Nancy, a lot younger than

576
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: we are, and you could still be in the workforce

577
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: and not be not be told this, but let's just

578
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: say you were older. I can't believe the first words

579
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: out of your mouth, because this is who you are

580
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: Nancy is speak the truth, tell them how you feel.

581
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: Right, I was going to say, own it and keep moving.

582
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: You know how she let them have the power of

583
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: dictating how you feel.

584
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Would you would you tell them that it's age discrimination.

585
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: Would you say it.

586
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: In a nice way?

587
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I would.

588
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: You can say it a nice way, but you can

589
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: still get the point across.

590
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, who's going to recommend that I take an

591
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: early retirement. I have more spunk than you people like.

592
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: That's how I would. I would handle it. You know,

593
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: look at you.

594
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: If you can't say that to your boss.

595
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: Well no, not to your boss.

596
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: Well that's true, that's true.

597
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he came back to work. That's a perfect example.

598
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, I always handle things with humor. I'd

599
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: be saying that the guy's name was Joe. I'd be saying, hey, Joe,

600
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: you know we're about the same vintage here at like

601
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: good wine, we get better with age. I plan on

602
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: working for at least another ten years. I hope you

603
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: stick around too. I would would also would get the

604
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: point across, but it would be a humorous way of

605
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: getting the point across.

606
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: But even when I addressed it, confused and say what

607
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: are you talking about that's ridiculous.

608
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Are you saying I'm old?

609
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

610
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Is that what you're trying to say? You?

611
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: Did I get that? Did I hear you correctly? Could

612
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: you repeat that please? And then you like to record

613
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: that and then you just look at them.

614
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: It's like, seriously, why.

615
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she's not We don't know how

616
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: old you are, Anonymous. Oh yeah, you're fifty six.

617
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not old.

618
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: Wait can I say she said she's going to work

619
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: another Sorry yet, what did you say? Niets?

620
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: I just said that's not old. No, No, that's not

621
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: old enough to be to have age discrimination.

622
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: Right. Never, you're never You're never too old, that you're

623
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: always you know what I'm saying, That should never happen.

624
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: But here's I would like to propose to Anonymous. Here's

625
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: the silver lining here. I have a single friend who

626
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: just moved to Laquinta, who lives on a golf course.

627
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: Perhaps you would like me to hook you up.

628
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, why is she feeling Anonymous? You're

629
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: saying a neon sign reading senior citizen. You are not

630
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: and I repeat not considered a senior citizen.

631
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: You're not exactly right.

632
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: Why are you allowing people to make you feel that way.

633
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: You're in your fifties.

634
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: Man, Wait a second, use wait a minute here, we're

635
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: in our sixties. I'm in my early seventies. I don't

636
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: think I'm a senior citizen. I don't act like that,

637
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: and no one your right, Susan, don't let anyone tell

638
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: you how you should feel.

639
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: I do want my discounts when they're.

640
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you're saying you're in your fifties. I'm saying,

641
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 2: if you're seventy, who has the right to call you

642
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: a senior citizen?

643
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Disparage, especially when you're.

644
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: Not one, especially when you're not right.

645
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Yes, like, talk to me ten years little Putts. Did

646
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: you say Butts Putts Butts Putts?

647
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: Nancy, I'm a name, I know, okay, you know what

648
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: It's better than anyone. Nance. Do you have any questions

649
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: or things that listeners should know about us.

650
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: That they don't already know.

651
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: Have you guys held anything back? I mean.

652
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: Have not lately? Not lately, Nancy, not lately.

653
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think I think one thing

654
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: that is true of both of you, and I'll say

655
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 3: it together, is that Kathy and Susan they're different personalities.

656
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: But Kathy and Susan you could call at three am

657
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: and say, hell, I need you. Whatever it is is wrong,

658
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: and both of them would come to your rescue.

659
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: And you would too if you answered the phone.

660
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: Tell me about that. But my point is, you, guys,

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Speaker 3: people may not know that about you, like you are

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Speaker 3: loyal friends, and you would, as Kathy uses this expression,

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Speaker 3: which I love, walk on hot coals for us, and

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Speaker 3: both of you would do.

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Speaker 2: Wait, let's do heart's hearts.

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Speaker 3: It almost looks like a butt like, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: And for those of them the heart.

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Speaker 2: Fancy that is so sweet of you to say. And Edie,

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Speaker 2: you're right by the way, and you would do the same.

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Speaker 2: I think people listeners always ask are you guys really friends?

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Speaker 2: We get it all the time, and the truth is

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Speaker 2: we are dear friends and we would walk on hot

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Speaker 2: coals for each other. And that is just one of

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Speaker 2: the gifts of being part of this bachelor world.

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Speaker 1: And you realize that some of the fans are getting

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Speaker 1: upset with me because I haven't holked Kathy up with

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Speaker 1: somebody in our travels.

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Speaker 2: They should get on it. Yeah, she might be particular,

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Speaker 2: who knows, Hey, Nancy should we be particular.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what you want and you.

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Speaker 1: Get absolutely age for the big guns. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: What is your perfect guy? An?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 2: What is your What does your perfect guy look like?

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Speaker 2: What does your perfect scenario look like?

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Speaker 1: Nancy?

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Speaker 3: Always love that guy, charm I want? So?

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Speaker 2: Can I just tell you I had a hope for

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Speaker 2: Liam Neeson because he said he wasn't dating anymore. Now

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Speaker 2: he is leam Neson is all over the New City.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't dating Pamela Anderson?

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Speaker 3: She doesn't and she doesn't wear makeup.

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Speaker 2: I cannot compete.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately, I'm going to have to say that does it

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Speaker 1: for this episode? It went too fast?

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but we will have you back again,

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Speaker 1: I know it.

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Speaker 5: What Okay, we have to end this episode of Bachelor

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Speaker 5: Happy Hours Golden Hour, and thanks to our lovely friend

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Speaker 5: and guest Nancy for joining us and giving some great advice.

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Speaker 2: We love you, Nancy, we adore you, Nance, and thank

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Speaker 2: the rest of y'all for listening and joining us. Be

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Speaker 2: sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour because we have new

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Speaker 2: episodes coming out every week that you won't want.

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Speaker 1: To miss, and make sure you submit those questions and

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Speaker 1: or comments to us and you know what to do.

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Speaker 1: can dm us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, take Karen,

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Speaker 2: have a great week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,