1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion, didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we go. Ah, yes, 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: thank you, money Making Conversations. I'm your host. As he 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: said earlier, Rashan McDonald each Money Making Conversation radio talk show. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Our podcast is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I am one 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: of the leading forces of entertainment and entrepreneurship in this country. 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I provide the consumer and business owner access to celebrities, CEOs, 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My guests in turn, deliver 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: information to my listeners about their career motivation, budget planning, 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: and how they live a balance life which leads to 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: the secrets of success. My next guest, I'm excited I'm 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: always ecited about all my guests, But when when you 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: see a person that layout their body of work UH 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: in such a diverse format, it's really as a blessing 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: because of entertainment. Can can pigeonhole you, And I can 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: tell you right now his career has not been pigeonhole. 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: My next guest body of work has filled the screens 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: of televisions and movie screens all over the world. From 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Eddie Uh from Eddie Southern on the ABC Family's UH, 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln Heights, as Luke on the HBO drama and treatment 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: as a detective Hank Griffin on the long running NBC 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: series Grim and the movie's Fences directed by my board 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: Denzel Washington, and Creed Too, which starred Michael B. Jordan, 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: which stars Michael B. Jordan's He was born and raised 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: in Open, California. He was in the theater program at 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Boston University and studied for a summer at the British 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Academy of Dramatic Arts program at Oxford University. He's on 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: the show to Data talk about his new series, Lincoln 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Hunt for the Bone Collector, which premieres Friday, January 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: tenth at eight pm. Eastern and Pacific seven pm Central, NBC. 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Please work for the very first time the money making conversation, 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Russell haunts me. Hey, hey, Russe, lay out there, man 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: lay you out there, Russell. You know what I'm saying. 40 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know how to well you know. For also, 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, congratulations on and I don't 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: say congratulated on what you have done, on what you 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: will be doing, because your resume has allowed you to 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: establish your your consistency and your authenticity as a as 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: a as a professional in this business. And we know 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: that's tough to do. We know it's tough to get 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: on with series at last, because sometimes you can't plan. 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: Talked to just before we get started into the interview 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: and everything, talk about your your experience in Hollywood and 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: the entertainment business a little bit. Well, you know, first 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: for me, first and foremost, what was most important to 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: me before and I said this, you know, just in retrospect, 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: was having studied as an actor. You know, you know, 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you as you stated in the intro, studying at boxing 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Boston University, getting my degree in theater arts, having an 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to study at the British Academy for dramatic arts. 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: But more importantly for me was being able to spend 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: two years with August Wilson. Um. I'd like to say 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: that that time I spent with August doing the play 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Jitney all over the country and then off Broadway gave 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: me my masters in life if you will, you know, 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: and in acting and in life. And so it prepared 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: me can be able to bring forth that that authenticity 64 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: and and have a depth of feeling and personality that feels, 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, that can't be matched, that you can't um 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: manufactured it to begin, you, you know. And so it 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: helped me to understand who I was and who I am, 68 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: where I come from, so that I was able to 69 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: when I walked into el when I came to l A, 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: nobody could tell me who I was, you know, and 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: put that upart me. I already knew, and so I 72 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: had a clear understanding of that. And it's really really 73 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: impressive because it shows in your style of work. And uh, 74 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you a little a little fun side story. 75 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, good friend of mine, the talent that 76 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: manager as well, and we was on the phone before 77 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: this interview was even locked down, and he was saying hey, 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: we you. I got an idea, I go, what what's Steve? 79 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: What's I did? You got to day a? Man? Remember 80 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: that show on ESPN. Playmakers, playmakers? Man, we need to 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: bring them back, I said, I said, words of all 82 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: outstanding suggestion. But the pot is that may not want 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: to coming back because that's series right there. Man, I'm 84 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, brother, incredibly uh you know, you know, 85 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: only eleven episodes are and but it is stuck, and 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: it's stuck in a part of Americana as great television, 87 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: authentic real television. Um, you know, just just just talk 88 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: about that experience a little bit, because from a viewer standpoint, 89 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, to have him tell him talk to me 90 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: about that, you know, let him know that it's you 91 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: know that that because we always talked about producing different 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: television shows and different things that you can reboot. And 93 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: that's why I was That's why I was in discussion 94 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: about it. But man, that was an incredible uh television 95 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: production that was on ESPN. Were you know, ironically enough, 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: I while we were shooting together, Jess, after we finished shooting, 97 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: while it was airing, I ran into Stephen Ay in 98 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Times Square just from the right there brother, your brother, 99 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I love you on that show. Playmate man killing on 100 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: that show. And I was personally last comment person the 101 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: only time I've ever met Stephen A. Smith. But you know, 102 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: we just had an opportunity. John Issen draft and created 103 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: a show. I mean, he just he was just telling 104 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: the truth and as to what he saw, and he 105 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: gave an authentic portrayal of what was happening to athletes, 106 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, in professional football. And you know, I appreciate 107 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: give it. Getting an opportunity to honestly to tell the truth, 108 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, and not glamorized it and not sensationalizing and 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: not gloss it over. They were really coming from a 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: representational standpoint, honestly, and I think that's what really I 111 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: think that's what really resonated with audience absolutely which honest 112 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: and real it was. And it was also outstanding acting. 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: Outstanding acting did that because of the fact that I 114 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: always tell people in order to lack of show, you 115 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: have to be able to take the journey with the actor. 116 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: If the jack that's actors bring you in and and 117 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: you feel a relationship with him. And on that show, 118 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I felt as a view and I felt a relationship 119 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: and it was a hit show. So yeah, I say 120 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: that because of the fact that you know, you know, 121 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: when you say you get the ratings back and you go, man, 122 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: we're hit, then you in your mind you think, oh man, 123 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I've landed a jack pop and that is not not 124 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Hollywood works sometimes, you know, you know, here's the show 125 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: had the numbers, was delivering the goods, the acting was great, 126 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: and it was and it went away that probably said 127 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: a tone for you with Hollywood that wow, what tough 128 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: time is real? Is not real? Correct? Absolutely? You know 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: what what you learned very early is that you know, 130 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood is the business of show and it's it's it's 131 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the business doesn't make sense. The show ain't gonna work right, 132 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of people who have to 133 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: be happy, you know, when you put a show on 134 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the air, or when you put a movie on the 135 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: screen or what how you and again, you're right, I 136 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: learned very early that nothing is guaranteed. But but also 137 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: though how I was reard how long was raised coming 138 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: from Oakland, being black in America, you know that that's 139 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: that's in me. So you never take anything for granted. 140 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: You you know, what's what what you all you can 141 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: go by is what you have today anymore is not 142 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: guaranteed and you can't depend on yesterday. Yeah, we're talking 143 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: to Russell Hornsby on his new series is coming out 144 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: in January on NBC. UM, let's talk about that character 145 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: because that you're playing in this When I was drawing 146 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: that's on NBC. Now we just talked about the series 147 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: that need ESPN. You were playing a running back, running back, 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: very athletic, very athletic. Now you're playing a character there's 149 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: a quadriplegic, and you know that's a you know, I 150 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: would try to wrap my head around how you how 151 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: you know because all your whole life been a physical life. 152 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Walk us through the steps of preparation for a role 153 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: where it was about you know, your mind, your expressions 154 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: are really only going to be in your face, you know, 155 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: the delivery, the nuances of the tone. That had to 156 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: be a journey for you. Correct it really did. It 157 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: really was a journey, Rashan, and but one that I 158 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: was so willing to take, believe ready for quite honestly, 159 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, I'm an actor who I embraced the challenge 160 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: at sing in every level. Uh, you know, I was 161 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: a little nervous. You know, before taking it on, before 162 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: we began shooting, I had to be honest about that. 163 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: But I knew that I could do it. I knew 164 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: I was prepared because I knew that the Lord would 165 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: not put me in what they say, uh, they wun't. 166 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: He would drop me off here, what I mean. And 167 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: and so I knew that that that I was ready. 168 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: But for me, what had prepared me most quite honestly 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: for this role with my ability and my time in 170 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: school of working on Shakespeare, and also my time in 171 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: doing the plays of August Wilson, Because what we're when 172 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: we're when we're talking about see what well, I feel 173 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: that what Shakespeare does with the language is able to 174 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: bend the language. Right, you're talking about this high language 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: where all you're doing is using your words, my liege, 176 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I did deny no prisoners. But I remember when the 177 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: fight was done, when I was dry with range and 178 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: extreme toil. Right. So so that's that's Shakespeare, right. But 179 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: then you have the beautiful expression of August Wilson. Right, 180 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: so you you marry the Bard and the Blues together. 181 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: So August says, I don't know about you and Leroy, 182 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: but Pernell made me kill him called me Champ. I 183 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: told him my name is King. He said, yeah, Champ. 184 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I go on, I don't say nothing. You don't know. 185 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: My daddy killed the man for calling about his name. 186 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: He don't know. He messed with King heaving the second. 187 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: So that's with them now, hear what I mean? We 188 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: married the Bard and the Blues of August Wilson together. 189 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: Playmakers was in two thousand three. Come on that sixteen years. 190 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: I have seen you on TV consistently and the movies consistently. 191 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: So when you walk on that set, remember this, Russell. 192 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: All the energy is being produced by you, and it 193 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: just permeates to the rest of the cast because they 194 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: have to step up to your resume. They have to 195 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: step up to your work ethic. And I think it's 196 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: beautiful because on this particular series you can't even move. 197 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. You know, nothing happened 198 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: by accidents. Um, A wise man and dear friend of mine, 199 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Henderson, used to tell me things don't just happen. 200 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Things happen to Jess And it happened by virtue of 201 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the work that you put in your willingness to do 202 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: the work. But I have to honestly, we brought, We 203 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: brought his re raised his name earlier. I have to 204 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: give a lot of kudos to Denzel Washington, and the 205 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: reason being is that I had the opportunity to do 206 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: in to do to being part of the revival offenses 207 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: on Broadway, and and then to be able to come 208 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: back six years later and do the film, to be 209 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: hand kicked by him the have a game to do 210 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: this film and give me a chance to share the 211 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: stage and the screen with one of I think the 212 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: greatest actors got for breath in honestly, and it said 213 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: to me, it instilled me with confidence, that said, you 214 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: are here, so don't retreat back, you forward. And it 215 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: was the who he said. He says, no, no, no, 216 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: You're supposed to be here because I because I remember 217 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: asking him. I said no. I remember saying to him 218 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: when we're the first day of shoot against him a 219 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: d thank you, thank you for what I said, you know, 220 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, because for having to be here, you know, 221 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: forgetting me the opportunity. Brother, I didn't give you nothing 222 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and you earned it. There you go, that's what I'm saying. 223 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm supposed to be here. That from that 224 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: that just told me everything I needed to know and 225 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: everything I needed to hear. Well, Russell, he just validated 226 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Roshan McDonald. That's all I was saying about your brother. 227 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: That's all I was saying about YO, your your career. 228 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: It validates anytime you're walking to say now you're humble. 229 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: This makes you say thank you. What we all should do. 230 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: We should all not assume that that happened because who 231 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I am, because people can look the other way. But no, 232 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: my man, you're special. He's starting on my he's starting 233 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation right now, but he's gonna be 234 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: starting on NBC Lincoln Ryan Hump for The Bone Collector, 235 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: which your premier is Friday, January tenth, at eight pm 236 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Eastern and Pacific seven pm Central on NBC. My man, Russell, 237 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. I hope you 238 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: understand that, brother, I'm a fan, but also do my 239 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: homework because I know what you do and what you deliver. Brother, 240 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: Thanks you so much for taking the time. I really 241 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: appreciated the pleasure meeting you, and thank you for I 242 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: wanna tell Steven I talked to you they too as well. Hi, 243 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: this is Rushan McDonald to host of money Making Conversation. 244 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: You say to yourself, who calls rushan Shell? Please welcome 245 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: to money Making Conversations, Lonnie Love. You have to believe 246 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: in yourself. Nobody else believes, and you believe in yourself. 247 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: With me being the first woman to host as successible 248 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: with seventy thousand people to introduce Michelle Obama. That just 249 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: doesn't come overnight. Please welcome to money Making Conversations. Lynn 250 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: with Phil, your daughter Charity is a hot mess on 251 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: greed lease, Well she is, she is. She's just trying 252 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: to find her footing and she got spoiled because there 253 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: were maids and things to help take care of her 254 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times. The baby and the family is 255 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: like that. Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot 256 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations dot com and follow money Making Conversations 257 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Hi this ra Sean McDonald. 258 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. That's right, I'm your host. 259 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Each money Making Conversation radio talk show podcast is about 260 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner 261 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. Everybody 262 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: travels a different path than success. That is because your 263 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: brand is different. So stop reading what other people are 264 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: doing successful to start writing your own story about how 265 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: you will be successful. My guests on Money Making Conversations 266 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: deliver information about their career motivation and how they live 267 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: a balanced life because we want to hear their secrets 268 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: to success. My guests on the Line Today is a 269 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: former newswriter. I love this because it's people always talk 270 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: to me about reinvent myself or transitioning. I've been called 271 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: renaissance man. I would call her the renaissance lady on 272 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: My show Today. A former news writer for w x 273 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: y Z TV and Detroit, Michigan Motown and newswriter and 274 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: associate producer for k CBS TV and Los Angeles. She's 275 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: a graduate of UC Berkeley School of Law. She's also 276 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: earned a bachelor's degree in journalism from USC and a 277 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: master's degree and broadcasting from Northwestern Till the follow Our Rod, 278 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: You're Gonna Get Lost This Young Ladies on Fire. She 279 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: writes fast paced mysteries that tackle important social issues, which 280 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: is really why I have on the show because it's 281 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: really cool the way she's been able to do that 282 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: and probably pull people in and open their eyes about 283 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: educating them. A thriller Anybody's Daughter wanted to end up 284 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: a CP IMAGE Award for Outstanding Fiction. She's also writes 285 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: writes on assudent name called Sassy. Sassy Sinclair now the 286 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: author of the award winning thriller Anybody's Daughter is back 287 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: with the addictively who thriller that tackles bullying and it's 288 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: devastating aftermath. What really goes home behind school doors and 289 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: failure to protect? Please work with the money making conversation 290 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: Pamela Samuel's young thank you, thank you for having me. 291 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: You gotta let you know. I'll tell you some At 292 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: the intro, I had to, you know something. What I 293 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: will not do, Pamela on my show is short chance, 294 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: short change people of what they've done, because that journey 295 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: did charge you know, l A. You know education, tell 296 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: us about that journey, you know, because here's I it 297 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: took me seven years to give one degree. Okay you 298 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: know what? And I don't you know. I grew up 299 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: in Compton and my product of the competent school system 300 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: and I always saw education as my way. Um, why 301 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: is that what you do? Because because the people that 302 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: just talked me into saying education is your out, you know, 303 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: because I um, I I've read earlier on my mother 304 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: put books in my hand in first grade, the Book 305 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: of the Month club, you can get a book every month. 306 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: And I saw different worlds. I saw a world that 307 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: was different from mine. And to be honest with you, 308 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: as a young team, I saw my mother. Women in 309 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: my mother's lives. I saw how um not having their 310 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: own independence changed their lives. You know, one one one 311 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: of one of my aunt tustmans became an alcoholic. Another one, 312 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: let's just tell it all molested, what a lested a 313 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: family member and then she's on her own and she 314 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: ends up in the projects. I mean, I just saw 315 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: all these women. Well, I had a stable life, family life, 316 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: My parents have been married for fifty five years. I 317 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: had a stable life. I saw these other women's lives 318 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: to be destroyed. I saw I had a I had 319 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: my mother. One of my mother's cousins was a victim 320 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: of travel abuse. And I said, okay, you know what, 321 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: I gotta be able to be able to have my 322 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: own So I knew as an early child that education 323 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: was a way for me to do that. And that's 324 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: and I was I was off to the races. Wow, 325 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, because when I went So what did you 326 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: made you choose the schools that you went for your education? Because, 327 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: like I said, your product of Compton was it trying 328 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: to get out of the environment, just to see a 329 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: different parts of the world, just to be exposed. What 330 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: led you and also what led you to law? Um? 331 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: Okay I um. I had a chance as at a 332 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Tempton High School or to spend a summer at USC. 333 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: I think as a tenth or eleven grade, Oh my god, 334 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I was like, my what a world in the UFC 335 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: was only thirty minutes from my house in Compton. But 336 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: I said that's where I wanted to go, and so 337 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: I was able to go back, and I set my 338 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: sights on USC. I don't think I applied to but 339 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: a couple of other schools and I got into USC 340 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: and that was that world. Um. And you know, I 341 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't go to law school till I was thirty. I 342 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: finished UM, I said undergraduate and I pursued UH journalism 343 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: and I worked in TV for a while. But I 344 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: had always wanted to go to UM law school. But 345 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know any lawyers. I didn't see any lawyers. 346 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: And it took me, uh, seven years after after graduating, 347 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: eight years to say, U um, I can do this 348 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't have a confidence then. You know, there 349 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: were no lawyers in my family, so I don't think 350 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: I ain't even talked to a lawyer before making that decision. 351 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: But one day and I had a real bad day 352 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: in the newsroom. The K didn't come up. A producer 353 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: yelled at me, and something and something just said pick 354 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: up the phone. We're gonna do this. And we go 355 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: back in the days when I was a news writer. 356 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: News writer were still using the type writers and think 357 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: of the phone called it called what do I need 358 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: to go to law school? Take? You gotta take the 359 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: laws demission tests. I went to Barnes and Noble about 360 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: a study guide. I had three weeks before that last 361 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: test at the end of the year to study for it. 362 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Study study, study, study, and got in got decent enough 363 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: score to get into UC Berkeley. So you know, and 364 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: and I had wanted to go all those years, but 365 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: nothing moved me until just getting the day. It's like, 366 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't you know what I need to do this? 367 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: And I was an older lawsuit most of my most 368 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: of classmates for twenty five and under when I was 369 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: in law school, and it was it was actually a 370 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: great thing that I was thirty because I was more 371 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: serious about it. I took it. You know, it was 372 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: just and it wasn't And even when I get interviewed 373 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: for jobs, because what you didn't mention I spent my 374 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: last twenty five years working is the in house council 375 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: for Toyota and what um what? Then going to LU 376 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: schools older student was a great thing because I think 377 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: it was a lot more mature, right right, right right. 378 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is that being a 379 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: leader that made the age can often times to make 380 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: you the leader, the natural leader. And because people are 381 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: looking at you saying you have experiences that allow you 382 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: to look different, walk different, talk different. And so when 383 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: I went out, I'm going through your bario they say 384 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: you're you're a frequent speaker on these topics, which are 385 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: really extreme topics that need to be talked about, child 386 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: sex trafficking, bullying, online safety, fiction, writing, self empowerment, and 387 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: pursuing your passion. Let's break this down a little bit. 388 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: Why are you speaking on child sex trafficking? You know 389 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the book that want to end up apt In Image Award. 390 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: The idea for that came out of a conversation with 391 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: the guy back in out No. Two thousands, ten or 392 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: eleven who said kids were being trafficked in the US 393 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: and when nobody was talking about child, that's ex trafficking man, 394 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: And like, what are you talking about? No, no no, no, 395 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: that's in Mexico, that's the Philippines as Russia. And he said, 396 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: none of no, the games, the games of trafficking girls. 397 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: And so I went home and began to research it 398 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, it blew me away, and it 399 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: was happening in our communities and nobody was talking about it, 400 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: and that formed the idea for anybody's daughter. Just like 401 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: um Christmas Day last year, friends to me an article 402 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: about two nine year old girls who had hanged themselves, 403 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what nine years old? How? What? How 404 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: does the nine year old know how to hang themselves? 405 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: And I ended up researching that and learning at the 406 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: suicide rate for African American kids. I'm near the age 407 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: of twelve, it's twice that of like kids, what what? What? 408 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: Why could that be? And that brought me to right 409 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: story to protect I mean, while I like I like 410 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: legal thrillers. Um, but I also like to teach something 411 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: in my book. So UM, I try to give you 412 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: a good mystery, a good legal story at the same 413 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: time teach you something. And I think I've done that. 414 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: And before I get too for us, say I want to. 415 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you remember we have a we have 416 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: a personal connection, you and I because two of my 417 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: closest friends are Say Henderson and Taraph Come on that 418 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: in some family. You really need to stop talking about 419 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: my sisters like that in public now. And you don't 420 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: remember back in two thousand three were you and I 421 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: were sitting in a Felicia Henderson's backyard at a party. 422 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Had to be two thus three or four there was 423 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: in Pasadena, in Pasadena. In Pasadena, I had just gotten 424 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: my first book deal, and I was not happy. I 425 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: was not happy with the amount of money and I 426 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: had and you and I was thinking about turning it down. 427 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: And you said, you said the following to me. You said, 428 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: you said, if you only got one book to write, 429 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: get your foot in the door and take that. You know, 430 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: if you've only got one book to write, turn down 431 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: that deal and go back and shop it and get 432 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: the best of you can't say if you got twenty 433 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: thirty books in you take that deal, get your foot 434 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: in the door, and you can you can make more money. 435 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: Later you said, you said, did anybody else offer your 436 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: books there? And I was like, no, said you need 437 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: to get your foot in that door. And what I 438 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: can't do. Man, ninety sixteen years later, you and I 439 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: are talking about money making conversations because if I have 440 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: turned down that deal, who who knew when my next 441 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: deal would have come? Well, you know this is first 442 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: of all, I love your energy. We was talking to 443 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, my producers in the room when they listened 444 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: to the show as well. We love your energy. First 445 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: of all, You're just a natural passion that is crazy good. 446 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: But you know I remember that because Felicia, that's my 447 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: I call him my baby sister, uh taught me how 448 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: to write titcom. You know. Then you have you have 449 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Saraphiny Johnson, who I think saved my career. You know, 450 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: she brought me on to the Parkers as a consultant 451 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: at the time where I didn't know where I was, 452 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: and that right and I was right when I right 453 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: before when I started managing Steve Harvey and basically the 454 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: rest is history. How how impacted television and radio, social 455 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: media with him a young adult version of failure to 456 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: protect goals on sale this month? Now, will you send 457 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: me a link of banners so I can put on 458 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: my social media? I will absolutely do that. And what 459 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing is, I'm doing my own version of cyber Monday's. 460 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Like I have Paddler Bell in there. I got a 461 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: girl Loney Love and there, I got Tina Live for 462 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: she has a great book that I have in there, 463 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: and and uh so I'm doing my best. I got 464 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: a ninety seven thousand fan club members, that's just that. 465 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Then I got over eight hundred thousand fan club Facebook members, 466 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: so I got that. I got the Instagram, I got 467 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: the Twitter. So I'm just letting you know, Pamela, we 468 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: met in the backyard. In that backyard many years ago. 469 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: Felicia Henderson, still my girl, Sarah Finished, still my little sister. 470 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, I'm so proud of 471 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: what you accomplishing. My job right now is to continue 472 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: you down that path of success. So whatever you give 473 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: me and asked me to do for you, I honestly 474 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: will tell you right now I will do it for you. Okay, 475 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm off excited that the audiobook 476 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: goes on selfs month. I'm I'm I'm still a couple 477 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: of weeks away from the young adult. But the audiobook 478 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: goes on sale in ten days. Young actor Larry Hearn 479 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: is my narrator. Okay, cool, get the link to me 480 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: in ten days so we can put it out there 481 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: and get it sold. And like I said in January, 482 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: I wanna put another one out, so like to the day, 483 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: I have one going out. I'm with you. She's on 484 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: fire again. Thank you for calling money Making Conversations, and 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: thank you for reminding me. We'll be right back with 486 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: more from Marshan McDonald. The money Making Conversations. Don't touch 487 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: that down. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald to host the 488 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who calls Rushan Shell, 489 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: Please welcome the money Making Conversations, Lonnie Love. You have 490 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: to believe in yourself with nobody else believes, and you 491 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: believe in yourself with me being the first woman to 492 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: host as Susceptible with seventy thousand people who introduced Michelle Obama, 493 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: it just hasn't come overnight. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. Lynn, 494 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: your daughter Charity is a hot mess on grelease. Well 495 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: she is, she is. She's just trying to find her 496 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: footing and she got spoiled because there were maids and 497 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: things to help take care of her. A lot of times. 498 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: The baby and the family is like that. Money Making 499 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: Conversations continues online at www dot money Making Conversations dot 500 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: com and follow money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 501 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, it's time you stop thinking about your 502 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: dreams and put some plans into action. Ah, this is 503 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Welcome to money Making Conversations. Each money Making 504 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Conversation to talk show us about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I 505 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: provide the consumer and business owner access to celebrities, CEOs, 506 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It is important to understand 507 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: that everybody travels a different path to success. That's because 508 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: your brand is different, the challenges you face in your 509 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: life are different. So stop reading other people's success stories 510 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: and start writing your own. Now, hold up, you can 511 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: be motivated by their success because their stories can offer 512 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: direction and help you reach your goals through your proper 513 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: planning and your committed effort. My guests or Money Making 514 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Conversation have that same passion, and they share that information 515 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: when we talk about their career motivation, what they're promoting, 516 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: and how they live a balance life and their secrets 517 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: to success. If you're ready, I'm ready. My next guest 518 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: part of a husband and Wife duo I interviewed. The 519 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: due part of that is a Danis Channel. Fantastic, tastic, 520 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: definitely gotta get on the show. In the vision is 521 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: behind Jumping Jack Taxes. They're the largest black owners under 522 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: the ages of twenty five of a tax corporation in America. 523 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: They want to make entrepreneurship possible, creating generational wealth by 524 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: serving the communities we come from and providing success through 525 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: financial literacy. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation for the 526 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: first time, Prince Donelle. Thanks for having me you you 527 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: made me sound amazing. Well, y'all, y'all you know, first 528 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: of all, I can tell you this. I always tell 529 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: people because I'm in the process of writing the book 530 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: prints and not tell people that you know you understand 531 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: your your vision and your passion in your early twenties, 532 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: and because I always tell people stop in your fifties 533 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: stop acting like you care reach your dreams if you 534 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: really if you're not happy with your life, go back 535 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: to in your early twenties when you had that past 536 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: your eighteen, when you before people told you that wasn't 537 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: a good path to go under, before you got married, 538 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: before you move somewhere, before you have some some casualty 539 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: or catastrophe in your life deviated you from your dream. 540 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Guess what you and your wife Dana or in that 541 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: age group that I'm talking about all the time that 542 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: understands the passion, the direction and you're living in right now. 543 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: So you are awesome, my friend. You are. I appreciate you, 544 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you, So tell me about that when I mentioned that. 545 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: A little little history here. Last time I ran into 546 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: you was at the HBCU week where ESPN Stephen A. Smith, 547 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, the madatro Vincent was down there and we 548 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: were showing everybody about the experience of HBCU. There was 549 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: no sporting event, and afterwards we had a college fair 550 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: where you can get own the spot registration and at 551 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: that college fair, over students were registered and accepted on 552 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: the spot and they were over nearly four million dollars 553 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: in scholarships that were distributed to the students. Uh, probably 554 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: about a little bit of the five hundred got those scholarships. 555 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: And Dana was there not only promoting that the event 556 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: was happening, but she was speaking at the event. And 557 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: that's how we connected. And I said, hey, you said riche, 558 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 1: are you gonna put them on the show? As a man? 559 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Come on that? Come come on now now since that 560 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: it happens, what's been happening since I last saw you. 561 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: Let's get a little catch up and now you're on 562 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: the show now and what's gonna happen in absolutely so, 563 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: first and foremost, I appreciate you for having me on 564 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: the show. Um, it was awesome meeting you and being 565 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: at that event. So much poultry that was in the room. 566 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: And basically since then, from September until now, we've been 567 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: so locked in going into tax season. I think the 568 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: last time that I met you, we've had over a 569 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: three hundred plus license jumping Jack tax partners around the country, 570 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: and now between September and December we have doubled from 571 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: three hundred and six hundred licensed partners around the country. UM, 572 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: so it's been it's been totally amazing. The energy has 573 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: been ridiculous. We were literally shaping the way that people 574 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: are now looking at the tax industry. And I love 575 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: it because we're one of the only companies that has 576 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: ever done it where just through culture and just through 577 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: being ourselves, we're now making it fun for the everyday 578 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: person that is in our communities, that younger individual to say, Hey, 579 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking taxes serious. I want to learn about taxes 580 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: because of the biggest thing is if I got to 581 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: literally pay taxes for the rest of my life, why 582 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: not learn how to do it? And it's not something 583 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: that we're taught at schools. And that's where Jumping Jack 584 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Taxes now filling that void to not just provide that 585 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: everyday person in our community with the opportunity be able 586 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: to start a tax business, right, but now offer that 587 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: same everyday person the education by connecting them with the 588 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: tax professional and a billion dollar industry. Because people don't 589 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: know that this this this thing makes billions of dollars 590 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: here and uh, I don't like to you know, I 591 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: don't like to name drop a lot of big companies, 592 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: but you know the corporate tax companies that are out there, 593 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: but they make billions of dollars inside of our communities 594 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: year over year over year over year. From January through April, 595 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: they closed the gate and then they leave you. You You 596 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: don't see them again until December to the five right December, 597 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: right after Christmas, and they open back up. But how 598 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: many of them are actually pouring back into the community 599 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: from the billions of dollars that they take? How many 600 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: of them are actually educating the customer based on why this? Why? 601 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Why do you? Why are you even getting a tax 602 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: return to begin with, and how are you strategically using 603 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: that money to make investments so you can be financially free. 604 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: And that's where Jumping Jack tax is coming in, because 605 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: we're shifting that in this entire industry up. Well, what 606 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: you're doing is that, first of all, can you can 607 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: you explain us the business the business model of Jumping 608 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: Jack Taxes before I start asking questions? Absolutely so, Jumping 609 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: Jack Tax is a licensing company. A lot of us 610 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: will look at us as a franchise, and for those 611 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: that are listening, there's a big difference between licensing and franchise. 612 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: To me, a franchise is pretty much you're glorified employee. 613 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: They provide you with the business plan and for example 614 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: of semi Donalds McDonald's provides you with that business plan. 615 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: As the franchise, you've probably got to have a million 616 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: dollars in liquid assets to even buy into the franchise, 617 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and when you do, and have to be done exactly 618 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the way that they say. The milkshake machine gotta be 619 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: the same way the fries machine gotta be over there. 620 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: Everything gotta be done that way in order gonna shut 621 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: you down. Now, was licensing, which is one of the 622 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: biggest billion dollar industries in the world. UH. Just to 623 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: talk about licensing a little bit, Walt Disney is the 624 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: biggest licenser in the world. They be over fifty billion 625 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: and licensing a year where literally you licensed out your 626 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: name to uh to somebody, they pay for the licensing 627 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: and they're able to use your name to make money 628 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: because you've built up a big enough brand. We went 629 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: into the licensing industry with Jumping Jack Tax to where 630 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: now people, the everyday person can use the Jumping Jack 631 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: Tax brand that we've built up all over the internet, 632 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: all over the country with national branding to now be 633 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: able to add that to their tax business. And now 634 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: they're able to get customers through that. So we pretty 635 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: much enroll you an online tax prep school, give you 636 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: to all the knowledge and education that you need on 637 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: basic tax law. We show you how to market your 638 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: tax business. And we've built our own mobile application where 639 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: we've created an ecosystem and a customer base to where 640 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: we're literally sending all of our text all of our 641 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: tax licensed partners leads that are in their area. So 642 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: when somebody downloads the app, is going to pull their 643 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: zip code and it's going to connect them with the 644 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: closest jumping jack tax professional in their area. So we 645 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: built up every single person that's a license of our 646 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: company with the ability to be a tax professional. Many 647 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: of them have not even come in with that experience. 648 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: That's amazing because right now you give them credibility. That's 649 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: what you are, your credibility brand and allows people to 650 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: go onto this app and say I'm in Houston, Texas. 651 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: Go to Houston, Texas and you'll see people that have 652 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: who've subscribed and a license to your brand. And how 653 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: do you vet them, Prince? How do you vet them? 654 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: The the people who are coming over to us to 655 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: start their tax business. Yes, I'll tell you a crazy story. 656 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't believe this is when we 657 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: had first started licensing about a year ago, I literally 658 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: spoke to every single person on the phone, but over 659 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: six hundred plus partners. I literally sold all too, about 660 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty to three hundred before we even 661 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: started adding um others sells people onto the team. So 662 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: I would it was. It would be days where I'm 663 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: literally on the phone from seven a m. In the 664 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: morning all the way u until ten o'clock PM, about 665 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: to close my eyes and sleep because I'm selling every 666 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: single person individually. I based my sales process, not yourself 667 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: the income, but off of money. Your thought process is 668 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: very clean, and you approach this from a business perspective, 669 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: and also you understand that the opportunities to go beyond 670 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: just making a dollar, but turning that dollar around to 671 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: to recycle it within the community. Now that photo, that 672 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: that video that I was talking about this on the 673 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: cover of the website, a lot of young people were 674 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: and that that is that is your brand being built 675 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: through the through the through the younger community. And that 676 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: is the craziest part about it is And and I'm 677 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: still surprised and not understanding to this day how sixty 678 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: five per cent of our company would jumping jack tags 679 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: are our individuals under the age of twenty eight years old. 680 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: This is a lot of young people on this phote 681 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: out here, look like tell you and and and people 682 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: ask me, you don what is the secret? How did 683 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: you get younger folks to want to believe in a 684 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: tax business and not even understanding is because they weren't 685 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: believing in the tax business in the age of social media. 686 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: Right now, they're believing in a person. We live in 687 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: the age of influencer marketing right now. Well we've never 688 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: stopped living in the age of influencer marketing. You take 689 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: a look look at the insurance industry. Everybody knows flow, 690 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: Progressive the lover. That's the reason why Progressives has increased 691 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: by billion dollars when they added flow to their commercials. 692 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: The same thing here. You have to be the influencer 693 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: of your brand and when people believe in that, they're 694 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: going to follow whatever it is you do. But it 695 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: comes with the level of responsibility. So so many younger people, 696 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them are coming out of college. And 697 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: of course you may you know this as well, that 698 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: college that is number one in the country, that's right 699 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: now forty is projected that by two thousand twenty three 700 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: of all college kids that graduated with college that are 701 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: going to be in default right if we're at over 702 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: a billion dollars in debt, which means that we have 703 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: a huge issue in our country as right now. And 704 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: my sister, prime example, graduated from school, she still can't 705 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: get a job and her degree as of now, so 706 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: that those are real facts. The kids need a game 707 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: plan and unfortunately their parents don't have it because they 708 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: don't know and they grew up in at different time 709 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: where the end that was not around. So a lot 710 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: of these kids they just needed a plan and jump 711 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: in Jack Tech them starting the finished and and then 712 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: it's something for them to believe in and something tangible 713 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: where they said, hey, I can start making money right now. 714 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: I love it. It's your version of amer Kay, your 715 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: version of Avon, your version of Amoy Williams insurers back 716 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: when I was growing up. It's amazing. Let's talk about 717 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: how we can reach out to you through social media, 718 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: through your website, because my man, you're on a roll. 719 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: And then also I'm a distribute this on my social 720 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: media sites as well. Tell us down absolutely, so first 721 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: and foremost, you can definitely download the jumping Jack Tax 722 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: apps because you'll be able to find whatevery uh black 723 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: tax professional or minority tax professional in your area. We're 724 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: all over the country. You can go to the jumping 725 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: Jack Tax website as well if you're interested in wanting 726 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: to start your own tax business and not myself from 727 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: Prince down now. You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, everywhere, 728 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: across everywhere, across platforms, but definitely makes you download the 729 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: apps to find somebody, because I want to be a 730 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: resource to you, not just somebody that you follow. My man, 731 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on my show. I appreciate you 732 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: being you, and uh, first of all, the show when 733 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: it airs, and we're gonna post it all over my 734 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: social media platform. I got a fan club base of 735 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand. I definitely want to put some banners 736 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: in there and do a special story on you, do 737 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: a video on you, because what you what you're doing alone, 738 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: especially what you guys do together's superstar and needs to 739 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: be talked about, documented and written out and screams to 740 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: the high heavens because you know, I've seen this format 741 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: done on the Black Black Doctor Dot Org. A lot 742 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: of platforms try to drive you to to uh, you know, 743 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: minority site or minority business, minority eat reads and things 744 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: like that. The fact that I looked at that photo, 745 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: that video that's on the on the cover page of 746 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: your website and I see all these young people. That 747 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: means you have customers that are gonna be around for 748 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: twenty and thirty years. Your brand will only get bigger 749 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: and only only and uh, you know, we're gonna talk. 750 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: I might have to give me a franchise and just 751 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: just to hang out with you. Okay, Hey, thank you 752 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Prints Hey and a k 753 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: a dog and we're gonna wrap in the future. Okay, 754 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: appreciate till Dana high from me. About Hi. This is 755 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversation. You say 756 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: to yourself who calls Rushan Shell, Please welcome to Money 757 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: Making Conversations, Lonny Love. You have to believe in yourself. 758 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: No body else believes, and you believe in yourself. With 759 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: me being the first woman to host as successible with 760 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: seventy thousand people, um to introduce Michelle Obama. That just 761 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 1: doesn't come overnight. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. Lynn, 762 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: your daughter Charity is a hot mess on green Leaf. Well, 763 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: she is, she is. She's just trying to find her 764 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: footing and she got spoiled because there were maids and 765 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: things to help take care of her. A lot of times. 766 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: The baby and the family is like that. Money Making 767 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: Conversations continues online at www dot money Making Conversations dot 768 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: com and follow money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 769 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: Hi this Rashan mcgowain. Welcome to money Making Conversations Studio Studio. 770 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: It's always fun. I'm your host, of course, each money 771 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: Making comes Asian radio talk show, says podcasts about entrepreneurship 772 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner access 773 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers because everybody 774 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: travels a different path to success. That is because your 775 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: brain is different. So stop reading other people's success stories 776 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: and writing your own. I guess on money Making Conversation 777 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: deliver information about their career motivation, how they live a 778 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: balanced life, which is especially I want to get into 779 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: my guests who is sitting across from me and I 780 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: guess we kind of like bonded recently because we became 781 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: members of the same Council, National Council. We're talking about 782 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: that in the interview and how they leave the balanced 783 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: life and we'll listen to their secrets to success at 784 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: Weddington Waitington Realty. Correct, My next guest employs a diverse 785 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 1: staff of professionals, many of whom are multi lingual, which 786 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: is an assets when dealing with international clients, which lets 787 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: you know she's worldwide. You know she's not some domestic. 788 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: She is also licensed realtor, licensed realtor in three stags, Georgia, Florida, 789 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 1: in Texas because you live in Houston as well, right, Correct, 790 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm actually a real estate broker. Broke. That's what I 791 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: only show was just educated show because because I want 792 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: to know I bought enough homes, I'm gonna what's the 793 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: real estate broker? We get all that, you know, because 794 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: I learned from my guests as well, So you know 795 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: that I know a lot and I will tell people 796 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it at all, but then I also 797 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: ask questions about what I don't know. So the only 798 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,959 Speaker 1: difference is is that a real estate broker can own 799 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: a brokerage and higher agents. Every agent has to have 800 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,959 Speaker 1: a broker Okay, Okay, cool. Okay, she's just even said 801 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: her name yet, you know she's you know, that's what 802 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: That's why I don't have studio guests right now right 803 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: that the last two year guest of the year right here, right. 804 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: She also follows me of social media because she knows 805 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm a baker and she loves the baker as well. 806 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversations, Silvia Weddington, Thank you. 807 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: How you doing well? Good here? Look fashionably, got your 808 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: black ole, got your hair floor and that that's the 809 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: look you You know, I always telling people people say 810 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: you look nice to this. I know where the mirror is. 811 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: That it's there's a purpose in my house. And so 812 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: that's what I tell people. They compliment me, and I 813 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 1: take that compliment in a very you know, a humble manner, 814 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: because you know, people don't have to say nice things 815 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: about you. That's right, thank you. And so when I 816 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: look at your company, was talking about a broker and 817 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: a realtor, because you're all all these shows on TV, 818 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: you know, you know, fix this, flip this. Are are 819 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: you one of those people? I'm not one of those people. 820 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: You're not flipping inping and you're not going in by 821 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 1: the house for a hundred thousand and then tear thousand 822 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 1: walls and no, but I help people do that, Okay, 823 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: we help people do that. So we definitely particularly in 824 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: the area in the around the Mercedes Bend Stadium, that's 825 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 1: a hot area for people to go in and fix 826 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: something and flip it and try to flip in. So 827 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: so what that means that the we're watching enough television 828 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: means you buy the home at this rate and do 829 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: do they do fix it up? Right? They do fix 830 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: that in the purpose of fixing it up under a 831 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: certain fee so they can sell it for some type 832 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: of profit exactly, and that you'll do it, but you 833 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: know clients. I know clients. I have clients that do that. 834 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: So I'll take them out to preview the property and 835 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: they will decide whether or not they want to purchase 836 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: that property, and they know what the budget is of 837 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: what they want are wanting to add into that property, 838 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: and then they purchase the property and go in and 839 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: fix it and they either most of the time they 840 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: lease it out or sometimes they sell it. Now here's 841 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: isn't it? You said Florida? You said Georgia and Texas? Correct? 842 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: Why three locations for your company, Well, um, we are 843 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: a global company. And the three locations because because I 844 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: lived in Texas, that's where I started, and we moved 845 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: around a bit. So I started, I moved to Atlanta, 846 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: and you know, so I needed to have a license 847 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: here as well, so I kept Texas and then and 848 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: then it's also a place where a lot of people 849 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: who are athletes get traded to. So it's easier for 850 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: me to be licensed in those states. Plus I know 851 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: the layer of the land right now. I know Texas 852 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: is a is a no tax state. Georgia is a 853 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: tax state. Florida is a no tax state. Correct. Correct. However, 854 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: in Texas, the property taxes extremely um inflated, so you 855 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: may not have other taxes, but that property will get 856 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: you and that does not go away. And that's the 857 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: thing we let people know that the property tax, you know, 858 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: everything else, even the mortgage will go away, but the 859 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: property tax does not. Okay, So, so so talk about 860 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: walkers through your business because you have different layers. So 861 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do a disservice in act like you 862 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: do just one thing, because you have a concierge part 863 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: of your business as well. So we're talking about realty 864 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 1: being a realtor or broker. You're broker, right, Okay, cool? 865 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: So talk about how do you do your conduct your 866 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: business in three different states. Well, um, I have a 867 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: lot of frequent flyer moms. Um, so I probably can't 868 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: be too uh. But one of one of the ways 869 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: that we do our business is that we, um we 870 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: are have a concert or service that if you were 871 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: buying a house, uh, anywhere in the world, we would 872 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: go and preview that house for you and and narrow 873 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: down to three to five properties and when you are 874 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: ready to maybe go to where it is, it could 875 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: be in Russia, it could be here in the United States. Uh, 876 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: we would meet you there. Russia. Yeah, in Russia. Yeah, 877 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: I have clients in Russia. They mainly buy a lot 878 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: in Miami. So but yeah, you can come to Russia. 879 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: We could go to China, we could go anywhere in 880 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: the world. And um we are we have a global 881 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: Russian trip. Yeah. I don't have a lot of those 882 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: because I have two teenagers, so that that that cuts 883 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: down a lot of That's how we made on just 884 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: a little back stories that we went to orientation together 885 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: the National Minorities Supply Development Council or m b E 886 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: and I know why I will. I'm trying to Uh. 887 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: First of all, I wanted my company, which is third 888 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: fifteen Media. You can go to media dot com and 889 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: you can see I do talent management that I have, 890 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: I do live Advance, I do marketing and branding. So 891 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find out in Cree relationships within the 892 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: industry nationally and especially in Georgia, telling people what I 893 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: do and and so what what what what? What was 894 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: your purpose of joining the council? My purpose was to 895 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: be able to meet people like you, um and people 896 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: who were serious about their business because, as you know, 897 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: it takes They don't just let you walk in the door. 898 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: It's a long drawn out process and you know, in 899 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: a strong vetting process. So when you know when you 900 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 1: walk into a room with the people who actually took 901 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: the time to invest in getting that certification that they're 902 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: serious about their business, and you know, just to be 903 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: able to work and network with other business owners like myself, 904 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: well you know, that's that's really what this is all about. 905 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: Because I was a number of our organizations usually part 906 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: of is a member of the World e r C, 907 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: which the Employee Relocation Council, and then you're also a 908 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: member of the Global Mobilities your Global Mobility Specialists. So 909 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: when I'm going through your bio, I'm seeing that you 910 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: understand being connected and being and being in these relationships 911 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: and create an environment. Because quite frankly, that's why you're 912 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: on this show right now, because we went to the 913 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: same council. Otherwise you wouldn't be on this show. So 914 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: this is extending your brand outside of what you would 915 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: normally do comfortably. Yes, absolutely, absolutely, and then that's what 916 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: this is all about. This may lead to something else, 917 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: it may not, but it's still brand development, brand exposure, 918 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about with your brand. How 919 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: long have you been in this type of business. I've 920 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: been in this business for twenty years. And it takes 921 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: a long time to build a real estate business, particularly 922 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: because in real estate people see you as competition, and 923 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of people who will kind 924 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: of reach out across the aisles to help you, and 925 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: you kind of have to. You say, you don't listen 926 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 1: to other people's stories because it's not yours, and that's 927 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: very true. However, you know, sometimes you don't see a 928 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of that in real estate because they just don't 929 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: do it, you know, they like um, you know, like no, 930 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: you know this is that to you out there? How 931 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: do you get your hustle on? I've knowing that you 932 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: have no mentors? Yeah, well actually I do. Okay. One 933 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: of my mentors is one who I've absolutely never met, 934 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: ness Tyler Perry. I read a lot. I read all 935 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: of his things and you know how he was successful, 936 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: and it's certainly different because we're two different things. But 937 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,479 Speaker 1: you know what I like most is that he says, 938 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you're gonna do, just step out and 939 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: and and do it. You know, if you're gonna start, 940 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, walking or exercising, if you go out for 941 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: five minutes, it's a start and come back. So and 942 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: I've actually done that because you know, yes, and now 943 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm up to ten miles. Yeah, so I started out small. Uh. 944 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: My other mentor is Orlando Lynch at Atlanta Peach Movers, 945 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: and he's always available to answer questions and help me 946 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: out and text me back when I have a problem, 947 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: whether it be with staff or the running up the business. 948 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: And and it's kind of related to what we do 949 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: because you know, he's moving people and and and that's 950 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're moving people as well, and so 951 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. So so basically by I guess that's 952 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, and I know that's what I'm doing 953 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: money making conversation because that's why I started this show 954 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: to just have your story. Your story is compelling, its 955 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: stories relatable, and people need to hear your story. And 956 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: so as as we as we write down this information 957 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: that you're giving us, what is your biggest takeaway? Give 958 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: a gift of information to individuals who who are listening 959 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: to you right now because you because you survived that 960 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: little a little dip, Yes, I did that. The President 961 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: Obama had to pull us out of So being licensed 962 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: in three states was it wasn't a great thing as 963 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: well because in Texas we didn't uh the market didn't 964 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: take such a nose dit as it did here. Uh 965 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: it did in Miami. In Florida. Yeah, Georgia and Florida 966 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: took a hard hit because the real estate market. Uh there, 967 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,240 Speaker 1: I imagine that there's there's more people that moved into 968 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: the Georgia area and and they were not that they 969 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: owned more property and they had a lot less um 970 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: equity in the in the in the in the properties 971 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: and so when when they when they took a nose 972 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: dive and they had to leave it, it just plummeted. 973 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: So that you know, that's one of the main reasons. 974 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: So tell us how to reach you. That's the part 975 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: is why we came on the show. Let everybody know 976 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: the build those that revenue the revenue well. Our slogan 977 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: at Weddington Realist married the home you love. So we 978 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: help you marry the home you love. And we're located 979 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: in Rosswell, I mean, I'm sorry on Roswell Road at 980 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: thirty twenty Rosswell Road and the office phone number is 981 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: six seven eight eight one nine three nine o two. 982 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: Again that number is six seven eight eight one nine 983 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 1: three nine o two. And I give you my personal 984 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,760 Speaker 1: phone number and that stuff four oh four nine seven 985 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: seven nine to two one. So now now they need 986 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: to talk to me and they ca you could call me. Yeah, 987 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: you have my personal phone number, give me a phone 988 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: call and yeah, this is how it works. I needs 989 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: to talk to my customer, that's right, because my number 990 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: all the time. And uh, if people hear that number 991 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: and they called me, pretty much, you're gonna know in 992 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: a few seconds what you should be talking to me anyway, exactly, 993 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: So I'll tell me you're not running me off my 994 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: number exactly. That's how I feel too, running me off. Yeah, 995 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: you know you master the ut of okay, why you 996 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: call it? And I asked people that mean what you 997 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: can't do to me? Silver You can't call me and say, 998 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: wish what you're doing? I know what I'm doing. Why 999 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: are you calling me? I know how to say that 1000 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: in the non rude manner, but you will know don't 1001 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: be calling me. And that really had my show got started. 1002 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: I just said, I have I don't have time for 1003 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: no non money making conversations, so much money making conversations. 1004 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on my show 1005 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: and know that you know this is a place whenever 1006 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: you want to promote. Do you do any Do you 1007 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: do any charity events for the foundation? Yes, I do. 1008 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: I actually with the American in conjunction with the American Hardest. Well, 1009 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: please let me know in the future if you need 1010 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: to come on the show, bring them on the show 1011 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: to promote it. Because the fact that that's what money 1012 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: making conversation there's developed the relationship and allow you to 1013 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: know that you have a place to calm, to promote 1014 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: your bread, to promote your causes, and tell people your 1015 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: side of the story is relatable. It's fun and I 1016 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: wish you so much success and thank you, thank you, 1017 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: thank you for being part of my orientation. This money 1018 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: Making Conversations you can Hear is on Spotify. You can 1019 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 1: Hear is on Serious Exam syndicated nationally Radio, Apple iTunes. Again, 1020 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Money Making Conversation. This is 1021 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: your host, Sean mcgowand Money Making Conversations continues online at 1022 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 1: www dot money Making Conversations dot com and follow money 1023 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 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