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Speaker 1: Patriots Postgame Show presented by cyber Reason. The Patriots moved
Speaker 1: to seven and four on the season. They kick off
Speaker 1: NFL Week eleven with a shutout in Atlanta, Nice Town, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: twenty five to nothing. Your final tonight, I mean, has
Speaker 1: ever been has ever been a twenty five to nothing
Speaker 1: game before. That's what I want to know. It's a
Speaker 1: random score, that's a good one. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: interesting little things just popping up here. Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be ninety nine percent Patriots tonight, but just one Falcons
Speaker 1: note from Albert Freer. Eleven days ago, the Falcons got
Speaker 1: to five hundred. Since then, they have been outscored sixty
Speaker 1: eight to three. That is a sobering moment for Falcons fans. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a bad team, and you saw why tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, they did a lot of things to beat themselves.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: things to be said about the way the Patriots played tonight,
Speaker 1: mostly defensively, but there's a lot to look at two
Speaker 1: with the overall performance from the team. So we're going
Speaker 1: to get right into it with you. We invite you
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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo. I will start with your opening thoughts on
Speaker 1: the game, please, Paul, if you would, opening thoughts were,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the kind of game that a lot
Speaker 1: of us talked about it's it's tough to play these
Speaker 1: Thursday night games, especially on the road. I think as
Speaker 1: you get later in the season, as we are now,
Speaker 1: it becomes even more difficult. You saw a lot of
Speaker 1: bad football tonight on both sides, but mostly on Atlantic side.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I come away with, you know,
Speaker 1: from the Patriots perspective, five in a row now still
Speaker 1: undefeated on the road, is that old thing that they
Speaker 1: always could rely on of waiting around for the other
Speaker 1: team to do something stupid is back in play. I
Speaker 1: think that they've done that consistently now for a month,
Speaker 1: and you know, when they've needed plays, they've been able
Speaker 1: to get them, whether you know Mike all four picks
Speaker 1: tonight in the fourth quarter. You know. Um, so just
Speaker 1: just that, like I don't care how it had to
Speaker 1: happen tonight, you had to come away with a win.
Speaker 1: Patriots were never in trouble in this game, even though
Speaker 1: they didn't play particularly well. Um. You know, on offense,
Speaker 1: the defense continues to dominate, and do you just keep
Speaker 1: checking them off and moving on to the next one. Yep, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought the offense did enough. You know. I think
Speaker 1: there were some nice runs from Harris and Stevenson. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just not the same success they had on
Speaker 1: third down last week. That was, you know, more of
Speaker 1: a grind on third down, and you know, not definitely
Speaker 1: not Mac's best game through the air of the season.
Speaker 1: But as usual, I think he did enough, and you know,
Speaker 1: overcame kind of the mistakes and and and when he
Speaker 1: did make you know, the one interception or you know,
Speaker 1: when they had to pun a few times, the defense
Speaker 1: was able to step up and get off the field,
Speaker 1: and you know, the defense, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to brag, but I got all I got
Speaker 1: all my picks, right, I mean, it's just kind of
Speaker 1: kind of how I thought the game might go. Where
Speaker 1: offense a little bit of a grind and and defensively
Speaker 1: they stepped up and you know, just didn't allow any
Speaker 1: of the nonsense to to trickle over up onto the scoreboard.
Speaker 1: So some nice games. Kyle Van Nooy thoughts showing up
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh you know again, Jude on Barmore, those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, continue to do it. Not not over all
Speaker 1: the best game, but it doesn't really matter. It's a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. You got the win. Doesn't look like
Speaker 1: anybody got hurt. You got a little bit of an
Speaker 1: extended break, and you know, now you're looking at this
Speaker 1: four game stretcher, or really, if you just want to
Speaker 1: digest the first two games of you know, Tennessee here
Speaker 1: and then Buffalo at Buffalo on Monday night football, So
Speaker 1: two big games coming up. They got a little bit
Speaker 1: of time to regroup and you know, if they're healthy,
Speaker 1: they got out of this one. I think it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's another nice win and you know, congratulations five straight. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's impressive. Anyway you kind of cut it up. I
Speaker 1: think it says a lot about Mike Gusse and that
Speaker 1: in his opening thoughts he mentions that he got all
Speaker 1: of his picks right now. It's the first time ever.
Speaker 1: I mean he immediately makes it about himself, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: a little that's right, uncomfortable, I mean yeah, yeah, especially
Speaker 1: when you know it was six yards away from me
Speaker 1: being six right, right, and what's the difference? Right? Five
Speaker 1: and one? That's right? Wow, Wow, wester Henry had twenty
Speaker 1: five yards and we needed him to have thirty one. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a bad week on the over under three
Speaker 1: and three. I thought it was two and four. Oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were two and four. Yeah, see, Morrel, you really wait,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe match should be checking your your totals there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the good the bad in the
Speaker 1: training room here. But I mean I would echo everything
Speaker 1: that you guys just said and seemed like it was
Speaker 1: and not quite a case of just waiting out the
Speaker 1: other team's mistakes because Atlanta made so many of them.
Speaker 1: Oftentimes they didn't have to wait. You know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: mistakes were presented, you know, earlier than other times that
Speaker 1: when when they had the ball or when they were
Speaker 1: on defense. So it was it was I think, in
Speaker 1: many ways a typical Thursday night game. Not earlier this
Speaker 1: season we saw some good Thursday Night contests from the NFL.
Speaker 1: But you get, you know, teams ten weeks into the
Speaker 1: season now they're starting to get banged up, they're starting
Speaker 1: to you know, the the just the length of the
Speaker 1: season is starting to wear on them. At this point.
Speaker 1: You bring them off of just a couple of days rest,
Speaker 1: not a lot of time to put a game planned in,
Speaker 1: and you get you get a game like that tonight.
Speaker 1: But for Patriots fans, it's fantastic. It's a shutout on
Speaker 1: the road. It puts your team at seven and four
Speaker 1: in this season, a fifth straight win for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: So a lot to celebrate in the actual result. Uh
Speaker 1: and and I think a lot to celebrate defensively. Um.
Speaker 1: You know. As for the rest of it, let's let's
Speaker 1: get to it now. Yeah, we'll get to it now
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Speaker 1: pretty good the bad. If you were in my toilet ball,
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Speaker 1: More on that in a moment. But we'll start with
Speaker 1: the goods. We'll start with you, Paul. What's your first
Speaker 1: good tonight? My first good tonight is Kyle Dugger, who
Speaker 1: I thought Phantom may have had his best game as
Speaker 1: a Patriot. I thought he was really active in this game,
Speaker 1: really physical, terrific past defense. On the first third down
Speaker 1: of the game on Kyle Pitts, you know, on a
Speaker 1: slant route that it looked like he had a step
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan's throws a little behind him, and Dugger
Speaker 1: made a great, great play after that, a couple of
Speaker 1: really nice tackles in the open field one on one note,
Speaker 1: not really any yards after the catch available for the Falcons.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know. I can look up
Speaker 1: the specific numbers that he finished with here. Yeah, six
Speaker 1: tackles in a past defense and also a special team's tackle.
Speaker 1: So nothing you know that's going to jump off the
Speaker 1: page at you. But I thought he was really good tonight,
Speaker 1: especially in the first half. Yeah, physical pass break up
Speaker 1: there that in that first third down. It seems like
Speaker 1: he's kind of come into his own. I think he's
Speaker 1: he's getting more comfortable in the defense and you know,
Speaker 1: just making plays. I've always liked his physicality, but he
Speaker 1: just seems now he's getting in the right place. Excellent,
Speaker 1: all right, Dougger. First up, who you have on your
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of do co co guys call it
Speaker 1: the two headed monster. I guess Stevenson and Harris just
Speaker 1: the two guys um I thought they were. You know,
Speaker 1: both had some big carries. Twenty one yards for hair
Speaker 1: or sorry's twenty one yards for Stevenson, Harris seventeen. Those
Speaker 1: both game in the first half, but you know, not
Speaker 1: a lot going in the passing game today. It was
Speaker 1: you know, especially as I mentioned on third down, but
Speaker 1: I thought those two guys kind of provided the spark
Speaker 1: and you know, at the end we're able to pick
Speaker 1: up some key yards. It definitely wasn't the juggernaut machine
Speaker 1: that we saw last week, where you know, they were
Speaker 1: just every third down was money. They were able to
Speaker 1: just run down, get touchdown, touchdown. I mean, they got
Speaker 1: held up in the red zone. But I thought that
Speaker 1: those two guys really um you know, carry carry kind
Speaker 1: of the load on the day and picked up some
Speaker 1: hard yards. Again, very encouraged by what you see from Stevenson,
Speaker 1: but you know, Stevenson five point eight yards average, Harris
Speaker 1: five point six. Stevenson had twelve carries, Harris had ten.
Speaker 1: So it was a nice balanced effort from those two guys.
Speaker 1: And I think as we get into this cold weather,
Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want two guys that you
Speaker 1: can rely on that you know, they're similar, but I
Speaker 1: think they're a little bit different. Harris might be you
Speaker 1: know a little faster in the open field than you know,
Speaker 1: Stevenson just a load to bring down and seems to
Speaker 1: always pick up yards after contact. So it's a nice
Speaker 1: little balance they got from those running backs, and I
Speaker 1: hope that they can continue that because it's you know,
Speaker 1: huge in a game like this where you know you
Speaker 1: don't really have everything clicking quite right, and those guys
Speaker 1: were able to get it going. Yeah, offensively, it might
Speaker 1: be a little light tonight on the good list, but
Speaker 1: those two guys definitely belong at the top. Took two,
Speaker 1: you know, no, no, no, no, I think I was.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about doing the same thing because you know,
Speaker 1: Paul had pointed out at one point in the game.
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think Stevenson had two fewer carries,
Speaker 1: but both Stevenson and Harris were sitting at fifty six
Speaker 1: yards at one point. It was a great tandem attack
Speaker 1: using those two guys tonight. Um, I'll go back to
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Defensively, thought Kyle van
Speaker 1: Noy had a really good game tonight. I mean the
Speaker 1: interception at the end, which was, you know, a nice
Speaker 1: moment that was fun. But uh, he was very active, right,
Speaker 1: I think he two sacks, two tackles, two QB hits
Speaker 1: and obviously a touchdown. I mean it led the team
Speaker 1: with eight total tackles, and and I just we get
Speaker 1: too lost in all of that. That's all the same,
Speaker 1: the two sacks, tackles, Philoss and quarterback hits, because that's
Speaker 1: there's not right. But he had a really good game
Speaker 1: to He had a really good game, especially for a
Speaker 1: guy who we pointed out at at points earlier in
Speaker 1: this season was just largely was not worthy, not worthy
Speaker 1: of mention, and certainly not nothing extraordinary. H there was
Speaker 1: some extraordinary plays that he was responsible for tonight. And
Speaker 1: sure the game was over at that point, but I
Speaker 1: don't know why they kept Atlanta kept throwing the ball
Speaker 1: and throwing quarterbacks in there to go out there and
Speaker 1: try and make something happen. Paul pointed out something I
Speaker 1: thought was pretty good. It's like, well, I wonder why
Speaker 1: the starters are still playing for the Patriots defense at
Speaker 1: that point. But well, I was a little annoyed. Well
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in the bad but I was
Speaker 1: a little annoyed that Mac Jones took, out my mind,
Speaker 1: a very unnecessary hit on a quarterback sneak that I
Speaker 1: don't really feel like they needed to be doing. But
Speaker 1: you know hopefully he didn't get dinged up on that
Speaker 1: at all. But we have Stevenson and Harris, we have
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger, which was first up on Paul's list, we
Speaker 1: have Kyle Vanoy. Who else you got, Paul, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to Christian Barmore, who I thought, again especially early
Speaker 1: in the game, was just completely collapsing the pocket all
Speaker 1: over the place. Again nut stats that are gonna jump
Speaker 1: off the page at you. But I thought he affected
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan on a couple of throws that were there,
Speaker 1: that they had some some opportunities to make plays and
Speaker 1: he had to get rid of the ball before he
Speaker 1: before he wanted to. There was that one that he
Speaker 1: kind of slid to the left and then you saw
Speaker 1: the replay that Troy Aikman pointed out later and the
Speaker 1: patriot Its defenders had collided and left pits. Basically that
Speaker 1: might have been a touchdown let a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would have been a big play at the very minimum,
Speaker 1: but you know, the constant pressure into the collapsing of
Speaker 1: the pocket on the inside by Barmore prevented it. Uh.
Speaker 1: We got Barmore or Oilse he got their deuce. I
Speaker 1: got Adrian Phillips fourth you know, fourth down, stop got
Speaker 1: back there. I think that was you know, I think
Speaker 1: I had some good plays in the red zone there,
Speaker 1: and that was a big one on the fourth down
Speaker 1: when it felt like, you know, Atlanta was making a
Speaker 1: little bit of a push. It was still I think
Speaker 1: just thirteen nothing at that point. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: huge play. So big play. Had the interception obviously as well.
Speaker 1: You know, he just continues to I think he's more
Speaker 1: complimented this year. Last year it felt like he was
Speaker 1: doing a lot and he had to do a lot,
Speaker 1: and this year it feels like he can kind of
Speaker 1: focus on some specific things and he's not quite stretched
Speaker 1: so thin. So I really like what they're doing. And
Speaker 1: I think part of that is attributed to Dugger, to mccordy,
Speaker 1: who also had an interception. I think those safeties are
Speaker 1: really starting to play well together. We saw for many
Speaker 1: years three safeties. You know, we're able to really solidify
Speaker 1: the back end of the defense, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what we're seeing now with the development at Dugger, with
Speaker 1: Phillips and of course mccordy on the back end. Well,
Speaker 1: I held off as long as I can, but I
Speaker 1: Nick Folk the missed extra point at the end was unfortunate,
Speaker 1: but otherwise, Um, in a game that was mostly field goals,
Speaker 1: he kicked them all. So best offensive player of the
Speaker 1: game again. I mean you needed to find ways to
Speaker 1: get points on the board and your guy did it Hardy. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: because that's what he does. All the guy does is
Speaker 1: kick field goals and make them four for four. He
Speaker 1: had along of fifty three yards tonight, one for two
Speaker 1: on the extra points. But Nick Folk certainly belongs on
Speaker 1: the good list, sir. Who else he got? Paul? Uh?
Speaker 1: Did Deuce? Did you mention? I know when you would
Speaker 1: talking about Adrian Phillips, you mentioned some other guys, But
Speaker 1: I thought Devin mccordy was really good in this game too. Um.
Speaker 1: There was a past defense that he made early in
Speaker 1: this game that was a play and Hardy, I think
Speaker 1: you said what we were watching maybe a month ago.
Speaker 1: He was a step late on that play against Houston
Speaker 1: as an example, month month and a half ago maybe now. Um,
Speaker 1: he was the you know, the the center fielder over
Speaker 1: the top. He's providing the the you know, the help
Speaker 1: and they needed it and he came over and got
Speaker 1: in the way. I think it was it was Zakiss
Speaker 1: that was the intended or maybe sharp I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but the play was there. It was an open play
Speaker 1: for the Falcons, would have been a big play. Uh,
Speaker 1: And he came over and got there. And then I
Speaker 1: thought the interception, you know, clearly there was you know,
Speaker 1: Pitts got tangled up and you know it was a
Speaker 1: little another good play by Dugger by the way, with
Speaker 1: a good jam at the line of scrimmage. But that
Speaker 1: should have just been an incomplete pass. But I thought
Speaker 1: McCardy made a great play to get over there, a
Speaker 1: sliding catch towards the sideline, and that that towards that
Speaker 1: drive too. So I thought he was really good tonight
Speaker 1: as well. Excellent Devin McCarney, a good game for him.
Speaker 1: What what do you think do Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: mostly covered. I mean, I just I wanted to mention
Speaker 1: Nelson Agalore I that touchdown, But I mean I have
Speaker 1: a good catches. It's okay, I just on five catches,
Speaker 1: five targets. Yeah, it's it's I mean, he was active.
Speaker 1: I think that's just what I'm encouraged about is seeing
Speaker 1: him show up. The touchdown was it was a great
Speaker 1: throw from mac um you know, he's wide open, so
Speaker 1: I guess it kind of kind of kind of easy
Speaker 1: to hit that one. But um, there was maybe one
Speaker 1: throw tonight that I thought was that that that throw
Speaker 1: to Henry. Yeah, that that one was the only one.
Speaker 1: It was. He was fairly covered. Everything else was like
Speaker 1: like just like pitch, hitch and catch. Yeah. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: but nice game from Aglare. Just to see him get
Speaker 1: involved and you know, he continues to spread the ball around.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's you know, it's I think sometimes
Speaker 1: maybe rookies, you see guys get locked in on certain players,
Speaker 1: and you know, Mac doesn't seem to do that. He
Speaker 1: seems to consistently, uh spread it around and find guys,
Speaker 1: and I like that about him. So it was just
Speaker 1: good to see, you know, Aglare get involved, get a
Speaker 1: touchdown and have five catches. I had Aggalore written down
Speaker 1: early and then a couple of question marks. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: is he really gonna stay on the list. He deserves
Speaker 1: to be on the list. Yeah. I think Matthew Judean
Speaker 1: is another guy who I always put I had jude
Speaker 1: on my list. Yeah, you can put him on there.
Speaker 1: Every you know, seemingly every game I think, you know,
Speaker 1: his real value tonight not only was getting into the backfield.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't have like a ton of numbers in
Speaker 1: terms of tackles or anything like that, but you know
Speaker 1: he's drawing coverage and he's you know, he's requiring it,
Speaker 1: you know, help to keep him from getting back there.
Speaker 1: And he was, he's a bother and if you know,
Speaker 1: if you need to bother, if you need to pull
Speaker 1: somebody over to help block him, because I love it,
Speaker 1: that just opens up, you know, laying for somebody else,
Speaker 1: whether it's Kyle van Oy or someone else in there,
Speaker 1: to make a place so that you know what what
Speaker 1: he's doing out there. It's yeah, it's it's not always
Speaker 1: going to get the praise and the accolades, but he
Speaker 1: is a problem interposing offense. And that's the thing with like,
Speaker 1: you know, Paul talking about Barmore too. It's like how
Speaker 1: many times last year we talked about the Patriots just
Speaker 1: don't have anybody on defense that you really have to
Speaker 1: worry about or think about or block. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know what. We'll go out and we'll line.
Speaker 1: I mean, now they had a couple of guys stunts,
Speaker 1: you know, they had to do it with games. Now
Speaker 1: they have two guys that basically say you're gonna block me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat you, right Judan and Barmore. YEP, that's
Speaker 1: a nice thing to have. Any other goods to get
Speaker 1: to Paul Um, you know, we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: the defense in general and all the plays, and you know,
Speaker 1: Mike talked about the Adrian Phillis play. I wanted to
Speaker 1: give Carl Davis a little kind on that as well,
Speaker 1: just the overall defense with the four takeaways and two
Speaker 1: for eleven on third down, continuing that stuff. But the
Speaker 1: last thing that I had was Jake Bailey tonight I
Speaker 1: thought was back to his normal self of you know,
Speaker 1: on those plus fifty opportunities or you know, first three
Speaker 1: punts he had inside the twenty, the first one was
Speaker 1: huge down to the I think it was a four
Speaker 1: yard line. So Jake Bailey was kind of back to
Speaker 1: his normal self tonight. All right, good, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get onto the bad list here, Deuce, if you want
Speaker 1: to lead us off, and again, this is a this
Speaker 1: is a short week shutout on the road, so and
Speaker 1: some of the are going to be I don't have
Speaker 1: much nitpicky. Yeah, or they're all gonna be nitpicky. But
Speaker 1: there were a couple of guys who did not have
Speaker 1: great games to night. I'm sure I think that holding
Speaker 1: penalty on John u Um, you know gets them on
Speaker 1: the list for me, just that you know, it took
Speaker 1: away a gain and I don't know how necessary it was.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like, you know, it wasn't quite the
Speaker 1: kind of play where all we had to hold him
Speaker 1: so he had We had one game, one nice little run,
Speaker 1: so that was okay. But I just, you know, I
Speaker 1: continue to be a little bit disappointed by the production.
Speaker 1: And I mean, even if he wasn't hurting the team,
Speaker 1: it may be what it was, but the penalty on
Speaker 1: a night like this Atlanta there, Yeah, you think, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off the very first drive of the game,
Speaker 1: it's uh. I think they got a first down and
Speaker 1: they got a third and four around midfield and we
Speaker 1: got a shotgun run to Brandon Bolden and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like why, you know, why are
Speaker 1: we just content to punt the ball here? Um? So
Speaker 1: I really didn't like that call. I thought that was
Speaker 1: sort of getting off to a shaky start. In a
Speaker 1: game where I thought it was imperative to get off
Speaker 1: to a really good start and put the game away,
Speaker 1: and you know, ultimately, they never really put the game
Speaker 1: away until you know, the interception parade in the fourth
Speaker 1: course two score game, you know, nothing, and the Falcons
Speaker 1: had the ball at the fifteen yard line. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just thought that the approach early on on that
Speaker 1: that particular call was surprising. Yeah. Um, you know you
Speaker 1: just mentioned Brandon Bolden for his effective and his active
Speaker 1: as he's been. I thought he had kind of a
Speaker 1: quiet night. Yeah, he did nothing tonight, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: belong on the bad list, but just you know, kind
Speaker 1: of a I don't want to chalk everything up to
Speaker 1: short week Thursday night football, but there were a lot
Speaker 1: of Thursday night football, I think, not just performances individually,
Speaker 1: but decisions and kind of overall feeling a the game tonight.
Speaker 1: And if that reflects poorly on certain players more than others,
Speaker 1: maybe that's unfair. But you know, we're trying to present
Speaker 1: both sides here. But I thought Bolden was pretty quiet tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll give Atlanta credit for playing hard on defense. Um,
Speaker 1: it looked like they were overmatched at times like guys
Speaker 1: were wide open in their zones. But they did enough
Speaker 1: for you know, the entire game really to keep their
Speaker 1: team in the game. Yeah, Um, any other bands do
Speaker 1: you want to play? I just I thought the past
Speaker 1: protection was a little spotty in places. He took some hits.
Speaker 1: He took a few sacks that, um, you know that
Speaker 1: haven't haven't been happening in the last few weeks. And
Speaker 1: again a couple of runaway rushers tonight that we haven't seen.
Speaker 1: I think Mike is right. Something you can chalk up
Speaker 1: though too. These guys just fought a war four days
Speaker 1: ago and they're back at it tonight. So a little
Speaker 1: bit of a but I, you know, I still wanted
Speaker 1: to see more. I was so impressed with Trent Brown
Speaker 1: last week and I thought he was fine, but I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, see the same kind of level um consistently.
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. They did what they
Speaker 1: had to do. But Mac was a little bit under
Speaker 1: durest tonight. The play where the safety came in from
Speaker 1: like thirty yards was that it was harmon on that play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you do you chuck that up to pass protection?
Speaker 1: Or this just well they complete He's so far away,
Speaker 1: right and that because you know, and and Mike is right,
Speaker 1: they completed the play, but I don't want completing plays
Speaker 1: like that. The quarterback turned when he threw it, and
Speaker 1: the receiver wasn't looking and had to reach down and
Speaker 1: bobble it. Like yeah, it works, but that's not the
Speaker 1: way you want to be doing it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: four for twelve tonight on third down. You know, we
Speaker 1: made a lot of how great they were on third
Speaker 1: down last week, um, and you know, for as well
Speaker 1: as they ran the ball, you probably don't want to
Speaker 1: be going four for twelve on third down because you
Speaker 1: would think you would have much more makeable third down
Speaker 1: attempts and they didn't. You take away the picks at
Speaker 1: the end, and especially the pick six, and you just
Speaker 1: look at, you know, half of the box score. You
Speaker 1: just look at the Patriots. It does not look like
Speaker 1: a win, you know. And three, I mean three hundred
Speaker 1: yards four for twelve, Um, you've only scored one touchdown,
Speaker 1: but you know, the defense was dominant. I have one
Speaker 1: more good in line with the coaching thing. Dud talked
Speaker 1: about the penalties, so I'll sort of let those go.
Speaker 1: A couple of special teams penalties again tonight probably should
Speaker 1: have been another one um clock management at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half. And I don't put this on
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I put this on the coaches. I don't
Speaker 1: really understand what they were doing there. They had a
Speaker 1: chance to I think there was about twenty seconds to
Speaker 1: go in the half, they had another time out, they
Speaker 1: were about a yard short on a pass across the middle,
Speaker 1: and they did nothing. They didn't run to the line
Speaker 1: to run a play, they didn't rush to call a
Speaker 1: time out. They took their time. The clock ticked all
Speaker 1: the way down to five seconds, and then they ultimately
Speaker 1: couldn't run a fourth down play because even if they
Speaker 1: got it, they wouldn't have had time to do anything else.
Speaker 1: And why risk not getting the first down and then
Speaker 1: lose the field goal if you do that. So I
Speaker 1: just thought the clock management there. Mac was upset with himself,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that was all on Mac. I
Speaker 1: think someone should have been telling him we need to
Speaker 1: call a time out or you need to get up
Speaker 1: and run a play. And it was a similar kind
Speaker 1: of a scenario that unfolded in the preseason. I think
Speaker 1: it was the Philadelphia game. I'm not positive if I
Speaker 1: remember that correctly, But same kind of thing. They had
Speaker 1: a two minute drill at the end, and they ultimately
Speaker 1: had to punt because of a fourth pound play like
Speaker 1: that that wasn't quite in field goal range, and they
Speaker 1: let too much time go off the clock, you know,
Speaker 1: which nitpicking in preseason, you can kind of understand it.
Speaker 1: But they worked on two minutes so much in camp
Speaker 1: and then presumably still do so, Yeah, you'd like to
Speaker 1: see that a little cleaner. Yeah, a little better execution there,
Speaker 1: and they got the field goal and that's probably all
Speaker 1: they were going to get on that drive anyway. But
Speaker 1: I thought they cost themselves two plays. It shouldn't it
Speaker 1: shouldn't look as hectic when you're just trying to get
Speaker 1: yourself into a field goal position there and managed and
Speaker 1: it was close, like there was a pass across the middle.
Speaker 1: I think it was Agalore. It was either Agalore or
Speaker 1: born Um. And I and I wonder if maybe they
Speaker 1: thought there was going to be a measurement, yeah, or
Speaker 1: as as your boy Zoe would say, amasurement, measurement um.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they were looking for the clock stop that,
Speaker 1: you know, an artificial clock stoppage. But you can't rely
Speaker 1: on that. In the last I don't think the rests
Speaker 1: want to be stopping the clock in a situation like
Speaker 1: that unless they have to. Um who is headed to
Speaker 1: the training room for the for the Patriots? I think
Speaker 1: just Mills Mill J C. Jackson both left the game,
Speaker 1: but they both returned, So I don't think you know, Mike,
Speaker 1: you said that off your top and your comments, it
Speaker 1: looked like they got out of the healthy. I think
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Well for all, for all we
Speaker 1: know they had a little Theorra gun treatment. That's all
Speaker 1: you need in game. I think it's I think it's
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Speaker 1: presenting the good to bat in the training room. Yes,
Speaker 1: Mike's a couple of things to share the kind of interest.
Speaker 1: So there is a Twitter account score Agami, which is
Speaker 1: they're always trying to figure out if there's a unique score.
Speaker 1: So this was not a score of gammy. This score
Speaker 1: has happened ten times before twenty five to nothing, the
Speaker 1: most recent being September fifteenth, two thousand and two. And
Speaker 1: then another little interesting tidbit coming from ESPN stats in Info,
Speaker 1: the Falcons are the first team since two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine Texans to have three players throw an interception in
Speaker 1: the same game. That was job Rex Grossman and Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: The last team before that to how three qbs was
Speaker 1: the two thousand Chargers, Ryan Leaf, Jim Harbaugh and Moses Marino.
Speaker 1: So it's just a fun fact. It's just a fun fact.
Speaker 1: But it's spent almost twenty years since we had a
Speaker 1: twenty five game, all right, that's just saying that that's
Speaker 1: good and that's good to see. Bill has the puffy
Speaker 1: jack for the post game, so cool. I bet that's expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like one of those puffy jackets where you
Speaker 1: could go get one at Old Navy for you know,
Speaker 1: thirty nine thirty bucks maybe, and you could also spend
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars on one. I'm guess they're not thinking
Speaker 1: if you make eighteen million a year, you'll probably go
Speaker 1: with the expensive one. Certainly is that on the same day,
Speaker 1: best dressed then worst dressed. Certainly is everyone I'm going
Speaker 1: to be wearing these shell I mean, the fact that
Speaker 1: they continue to win on the road and the defense
Speaker 1: continues to dominate is you know, I think those are
Speaker 1: the two huge takeaways. Well said, Let's see what soon
Speaker 1: everybody thinks on the phones here eight five five Pats
Speaker 1: five hundred. So Johnny in Wisconsin, first up on the
Speaker 1: Patriots post game show presented by Cyber Reason. Hi, Johnny,
Speaker 1: how's it going boys, Johnny good good, good, Well, it's
Speaker 1: a good win to night. I think it was, you know,
Speaker 1: closer than any of us wanted it to be until
Speaker 1: the you know, the like like you guys called it
Speaker 1: the turnover brigade at the end there. But I saw
Speaker 1: a crazy stat during the game there. I think it
Speaker 1: was like one hundred and eighty nine and seventeen now
Speaker 1: or something under a bill when we win the turnover battle.
Speaker 1: So I just kind of wanted to get um, you know,
Speaker 1: a bit of a bit of a taking you guys
Speaker 1: on JC Jackson in particular with another nice catch that
Speaker 1: are on the deflection. What is his value to you guys?
Speaker 1: Really think um going forward potentially with the franchise tag
Speaker 1: or you know, an extension or you know, a new contract.
Speaker 1: I should say, given how he really is kind of
Speaker 1: a ballhawk and he does have a feel for you know,
Speaker 1: getting that turnover when the turnover is crucial for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: you know, winning the game bill. The first thing I
Speaker 1: would say, Johnny is I mean, obviously coaches don't have
Speaker 1: that many games under their belt, but the disparity in
Speaker 1: the wins versus losses for any team is going to
Speaker 1: be high if you win the turnover battle. It's one
Speaker 1: of those things like third downs where you win that
Speaker 1: you have, yeah, undefeated when they scored more points in
Speaker 1: the opponent. The Patriots numbers in those situations or you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it is one hundred and eighty something in
Speaker 1: like seventeen. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But I would say
Speaker 1: it's it's probably a very han their numbers when leading
Speaker 1: at the half at Jillette Stadium under Belichick. It's like
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think like just having a halftime lead is
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's five times in the Belichis
Speaker 1: era while leading at the half, and that's different. But
Speaker 1: but I think what is more, uh, you know, to
Speaker 1: the point here is how often the Patriots win the
Speaker 1: turnover battle. And that's I mean that that's what we
Speaker 1: talked about. It was Paul's key to the game. You know,
Speaker 1: just protect the football. Yeah, and you know the pick
Speaker 1: that that Mac Jones threw all all all let Atlanta
Speaker 1: right into the game, you know, if not for the
Speaker 1: huge third and fourth downd stop. So I mean they're
Speaker 1: at the fifteen yard line needing a blade of grass,
Speaker 1: um and they come up short by you know, good
Speaker 1: good quality handoff to the fullback Andy Hart, good job,
Speaker 1: good play call. And then you know Carl Davis and
Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips combined combined to oh my god, to end
Speaker 1: to end that drive, and that ended the game. I mean, ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think the game was over on that fourth down
Speaker 1: stop at thirteen nothing um. But those turnovers games like
Speaker 1: the timing of them is is important. But you know,
Speaker 1: you look at Brady last week against Washington, he throws
Speaker 1: two picks in the first quarter. Now, was that was
Speaker 1: the game lost at that point? No, but it kind
Speaker 1: of tells you the direction the game is going to chase. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's no, it's no way to play. And
Speaker 1: it's something that Belichick's teams have done four years, which
Speaker 1: has been real good in the turnover disparity. And then
Speaker 1: capitalize now and make sure if you're gonna win that
Speaker 1: crucial part of the game, you don't end up losing
Speaker 1: the game because you've you've you know, control the football better.
Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of what they do. I mean,
Speaker 1: And what can you say about Jase Jackson. He just
Speaker 1: continues to find the ball. I mean, it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: be ah, this is gonna be I think it's just
Speaker 1: the ball find him somebody. Somehow they're connecting. I don't
Speaker 1: know who's finding who, but it's happened too consistently fortuitous
Speaker 1: sure at times. But I and Paul, I know you
Speaker 1: agree with this too. The athleticism that it requires to
Speaker 1: actually you know, come down with those balls. You see
Speaker 1: it a lot, and maybe not from corners, maybe not
Speaker 1: from safeties, but you see guys you know, with the
Speaker 1: ball that's you know, up for grabs and they don't
Speaker 1: manage to come down with it. And yes, on other
Speaker 1: guys on other teams, I guess that they had really
Speaker 1: really good hands, they'd be receivers, you know, so you
Speaker 1: don't always expect them to come up with these balls
Speaker 1: that are a huge place. Yeah, they're wobbling around and yeah,
Speaker 1: jac Jackson does he does place over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. It keeps happening, and it's just it's going
Speaker 1: to be a major question this offseason of how how
Speaker 1: they figure out resigning the guys on defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: certainly it's making it a lot harder in recent weeks
Speaker 1: with the way these guys are playing, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys who are going to be free agents playing awesome.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of that double edged sword where every
Speaker 1: pick it makes you more excited about him, but it
Speaker 1: also probably makes other teams more excited as well to
Speaker 1: give him a big pay day. So big question for
Speaker 1: the offseason for sure. Let's go to Dave and Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: Who's joining us now on the Patriots Postgame Show presented
Speaker 1: by Will be Let's go to Dave. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Dave and Charlotte. He'll be there. Hi, Dave, Hey, how
Speaker 1: are you guys doing really good? Yeah, I'm doing my
Speaker 1: part to keep you all awaken these late hours. Oh
Speaker 1: you're a good man. Yeah. And that right there, that
Speaker 1: was that was Thursday night football. That was rough. I agree,
Speaker 1: that was that over? This is Thursday night. So many
Speaker 1: field goals? Um? Yeah, So I had a question because
Speaker 1: the commentators were talking right over it. Did that penalty
Speaker 1: against Slater stand? I never thought it over. I thought
Speaker 1: it was okay. I couldn't tell. Yeah, it should have stood.
Speaker 1: But but they they they said that it was incidental.
Speaker 1: But Mike Pereira, the officials expert, came on and said
Speaker 1: that it probably should have stood. All right, David, we
Speaker 1: got to let you go because he was first up
Speaker 1: on our good list tonight. Very much deserving of it.
Speaker 1: A fantastic game for Kyle Dugger joining us on the
Speaker 1: Patriots postgame show. Kyle, you're on with Hardy and Mike
Speaker 1: Dissell and Paul Perrello. Congratulations on the win. Thank you,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Hey, Kyle, how is the short week
Speaker 1: of preparation, and you know, then, how rewarding is it
Speaker 1: to just go down there and play lights out and
Speaker 1: get a win and shut the Falcons out. The win
Speaker 1: was definitely great. I mean, the preparation was was efficient.
Speaker 1: I think we got the most out of every day.
Speaker 1: We hadn't even though we're short. But so I go
Speaker 1: out there and execute on a show a week just
Speaker 1: made it that much better. Kyle, how challenging is it
Speaker 1: to sort of get geared up again on and you know,
Speaker 1: and such such short notice. Physically, you guys, I thought
Speaker 1: right from the very beginning of the game tonight, defensively
Speaker 1: and you especially, I thought, really brought the physicality to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: really dominated the line of scrimmage and some of the
Speaker 1: plays that you and your fellow defensive backs were making
Speaker 1: out in in the flat on tackle set. How hard
Speaker 1: is that to to continue that physicality of such a
Speaker 1: short week. Um, I think it really just comes down
Speaker 1: how to use your time then and how quickly you
Speaker 1: get on it. So with this week, we had to
Speaker 1: really get some of the game in it. You know,
Speaker 1: we had to get you know, into the side and
Speaker 1: the coach up and do whatever we did, so we
Speaker 1: start our bodies knowing that we had to show me
Speaker 1: coming up. So I think everybody, I think I do it.
Speaker 1: Good job. Man. I can't see faverybody else, but I
Speaker 1: feel like it was a good job of getting in there,
Speaker 1: throwing that and being ready to play today. Kyle saw
Speaker 1: at the end of the game there was a lot
Speaker 1: of celebrating going on with a lot of Patriots fans there.
Speaker 1: I think we saw the same thing at Carolina a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Were you well represented with Patriots
Speaker 1: fans there tonight? I definitely had a lot of family
Speaker 1: in the crowd. I couldn't find them all how it
Speaker 1: was trying to look, but I definitely had a good
Speaker 1: representation out here and it was good. Good to come
Speaker 1: home and let them give me play. Kyle, do you
Speaker 1: feel like you're finding a little bit of a stride
Speaker 1: here the last like month or so. You're getting some interceptions,
Speaker 1: seems like you're making plays on the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: some some great tackles. Like do you just feel like
Speaker 1: you're kind of finding your stride a little bit? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just becoming a little more consistent. I think that up
Speaker 1: being more consistent than practicing and making sure I'm focused,
Speaker 1: but I definitely think that it was all of my
Speaker 1: players there just unency and practice energy. Stop the show, now, Kyle,
Speaker 1: it was you know, but about five or six weeks ago. Now,
Speaker 1: that Dallas game obviously didn't end the way you guys want,
Speaker 1: But since then, you guys defensively have taken it to
Speaker 1: a whole different level. And what has been the biggest
Speaker 1: difference over these last five games where you guys have
Speaker 1: just completely suffocated opponents. Your third down defense has been
Speaker 1: just unreal. You're not allowing any teams to breathe, and
Speaker 1: tonight you cap it off with a shout out. What
Speaker 1: has been the difference for you guys over the last
Speaker 1: five games? My really thing you has been growing together.
Speaker 1: We really really been doing a good job of having
Speaker 1: chemistry on the field, and it's starting to come and
Speaker 1: the grind haven't really changed. We've been digging in since
Speaker 1: the week one, but I think really just the chemistry
Speaker 1: start to come together and we start to really you know,
Speaker 1: hit our start and make less mistakes together and play
Speaker 1: together better. Kyle, another great win tonight, five in row
Speaker 1: seven and four in the season. It's just a great
Speaker 1: way to go into a little bit of extra rest here,
Speaker 1: So thanks for taking the time in. Congratulations again and
Speaker 1: thank you all right, thanks there you go. Congrats Kyle,
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Speaker 1: features of Windows eleven at Windows dot com. Kyle Dugger. Man,
Speaker 1: but what a treat for us too, after he's first
Speaker 1: up on our good list here tonight, you people to
Speaker 1: get him on there. And uh, I think they are playing,
Speaker 1: you know, more as a unit now than they happened
Speaker 1: in the past. But they just that they all seem
Speaker 1: to be playing with a little more confidence and I
Speaker 1: trust in each other. Yeah, it's all coming together for
Speaker 1: those guys. It just continues to just impress week after
Speaker 1: week here during this winning they've been really really impressive.
Speaker 1: It's it's and it's I mean, it's it's setting the
Speaker 1: bar to you know, these great offenses that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to face if they want to get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think. You know, if I'm any
Speaker 1: team that has to play the Patriots, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is this is going to be a challenge. This is
Speaker 1: a challenging team no matter what you got on offense.
Speaker 1: I don't care who they play. Um, they're gonna make
Speaker 1: it tough one you. They're gonna bring some physicality up front.
Speaker 1: And you know, just seeing Dugger really start to grow
Speaker 1: and and you know, just the physicality like you pointed,
Speaker 1: like the open field hits, like he comes with a pop,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and that is something that carries over,
Speaker 1: I think to the rest of the team. You see
Speaker 1: them kind of playing with a physical edge that I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's been absent the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, but there's just you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: playing at a good level right now, and I just
Speaker 1: hope they can continue it because now we can talk
Speaker 1: about Tennessee and that physical because that's a physical team too.
Speaker 1: That's a team that wants to be physical. That's a
Speaker 1: team that last time was here ran the ball all
Speaker 1: over you. So but I'll tell you, I like I
Speaker 1: like the Patriots chances in that kind of a matchup
Speaker 1: because it's another team that really only does one thing well,
Speaker 1: and I like the Patriot That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: Like when the Patriots have gotten to the point where
Speaker 1: they they're back to that, you know, let the other
Speaker 1: team make mistakes and cap and be ready to pounce
Speaker 1: on him. That's the other thing. Like all they had
Speaker 1: tonight was Kyle Pitts. Right, everybody in their brother knew
Speaker 1: the Patriots were gonna shut down Kyle Pitts. Not because
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts isn't any good. Matter of fact, I thought
Speaker 1: he was pretty impressive tonight. But if that's all you got,
Speaker 1: there's no way that Bill Belichick is going to allow that.
Speaker 1: If he has some horses, there's no way he's going
Speaker 1: to allow one thing. And I just can't imagine Tennessee's
Speaker 1: gonna muscle up and just pound away at the Patriots
Speaker 1: and win a game like they did two years ago
Speaker 1: in that playoff game in twenty nineteen. No way. You
Speaker 1: know it's funny too, because I'm thinking the same thing
Speaker 1: I thought. Kyle Pitts. He actually got his tonight. He
Speaker 1: had three catches. One of them was for sixteen yards
Speaker 1: and that was the and he was open a couple
Speaker 1: of other times that they you know, the past, rush
Speaker 1: back to him like I don't think that he did
Speaker 1: anything wrong tonight. In other words, well, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he wasn't working, wasn't fighting through whatever. They just said,
Speaker 1: you're not beating us. We're gonna put we're gonna put
Speaker 1: multiple bodies around you. You're not gonna beat us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably what they're gonna do to a J. Brown next.
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of like a focal point. Well,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna just say, you're not gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball down our throat. Right, We're gonna make sure
Speaker 1: you can't run the ball all over us, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that doesn't happen, and they're gonna make
Speaker 1: you do it in a different way. Good good, Jude
Speaker 1: unquote coming out of the press conference, I'll share via
Speaker 1: Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic we kind of want to
Speaker 1: be a holes on the field. We play within the
Speaker 1: rules and don't want to get penalized. We're a nasty group.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, you are a nasty, nasty group.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jack in Michigan on the Patriots postgame
Speaker 1: show presented by Cyber Reason. I know what you're laughing at? Jack?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I didn't. I wanted to so bad. I was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna nasty, but I didn't do it. Don't
Speaker 1: mean a thing. Go ahead, Jack. How are you guys
Speaker 1: doing good? Um? They got one quick question for you guys.
Speaker 1: So you know Mac was super efficient today. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: finding open guys, you know, throwing. Yeah, going pretty well
Speaker 1: with the defense. You know, next week with you know,
Speaker 1: Kevin Bayer to Monty Hooker or Chris Jackson. How do
Speaker 1: you think they're going to attack it? Do you think
Speaker 1: we're gonna go more of those rough concepts like we
Speaker 1: did against the Browns? Do you think Mac is going
Speaker 1: to go more downfield? Like what kind of stuff? Do
Speaker 1: you guys? How do you think we're going to attack
Speaker 1: next week? Wow? I haven't even I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't, But you know, I think avoiding
Speaker 1: the middle of their line. I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: their defensive line. I think they got some big boys
Speaker 1: up there with Simmons, and I mean that's a lot
Speaker 1: of the damage they did that I saw against the Rams. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, jump into them this week to get a
Speaker 1: better sense of it. But um, you know, I I
Speaker 1: think that in many ways. Obviously for with Vrabel, I
Speaker 1: just I think it's a similarly constructed team, even if
Speaker 1: schematically they're not the same. I just think that they're
Speaker 1: a tough football team and they're gonna, you know, come
Speaker 1: in and they might are not gonna get pushed around.
Speaker 1: They might fight, you know, the Bajors might defeat them,
Speaker 1: but don't think they're gonna get pushed around. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But I just think they got to do whatever they
Speaker 1: can do. I mean, we saw it tonight. It wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, perfect by any stretch of the imagination. They
Speaker 1: weren't that great on third down. They were effective running
Speaker 1: the ball in spurts, but I think they need to
Speaker 1: get back to some you know, consistency producing offensively and
Speaker 1: then and then they'll have you know, success. But tough
Speaker 1: to say. It's just I think it's an overall it's
Speaker 1: almost more focusing on yourself and executing your own team
Speaker 1: rather than all right, how do we get around the Titans?
Speaker 1: Who you know, I think they have good players, but
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything like, oh, this is what
Speaker 1: we're going to attack, at least not yet. All right, Jack,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, appreciate it. Thanks buddy, Move down
Speaker 1: south straight down A seventy five and go to Florida.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Tyler. I was on the Patriots postgame show.
Speaker 1: What's up there? Tyler? Hey, how you doing, sir? Excellent?
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. What do you got for us?
Speaker 1: All right? So this is a little bit more of
Speaker 1: an overreaction than anything. How did the NFL let Mac
Speaker 1: Jones bar More remond ring just fall to the Patriots?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, just insane. But I mean to
Speaker 1: get back on it, I said a quick question. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think the odds are of the
Speaker 1: Patriots making it to the Super Bowl. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: be real. I gotta see how they do against Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I want to see how they
Speaker 1: do against passing teams that have multiple passing threats that
Speaker 1: can kind of spread them out and not allow seven
Speaker 1: man boxes to kind of dictate the matchup. I think,
Speaker 1: if you have a team that has enough passing threats,
Speaker 1: which I mean Buffalo does. But Buffalo is a one
Speaker 1: dimensional team. So I mean, I'm not ruling it out
Speaker 1: that they couldn't come out of the AFC, but I
Speaker 1: think when you go back, look at the Dallas game,
Speaker 1: look at the Tampa game. How they had to kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, mix and match a little bit and it
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a grind. When they're playing
Speaker 1: these teams now where they're run centric, maybe they have
Speaker 1: one receiving threat. I think that that the odds fall
Speaker 1: in the Patriots favor. But if you have a team
Speaker 1: that's able to go four or five wide, stress their
Speaker 1: cornerback depth, not allow their their defensive linemen to you know,
Speaker 1: dictate the matchups, um, then then I think they might
Speaker 1: have some problems. I don't know though, but I they'll
Speaker 1: they'll They'll have to prove it here at the end
Speaker 1: of the season with those two games against Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I I would say that there's no team
Speaker 1: that the Patriots could face that I would say that
Speaker 1: they can't play with absolutely, But that doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: think they're going to the Super Bowl. I mean, I
Speaker 1: agree with Mike. I want to see a lot more.
Speaker 1: I mean, just off the top of my head here,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think the Chargers. The only team with
Speaker 1: a winning record that they've beaten, well, that was the Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was the yea and the five and four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was the last team to give them a game.
Speaker 1: But you know, you're you're automatically, you know, my mind
Speaker 1: goes to, you know, super Bowl? What are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? No, I'm not. I'm not dismissing their chances.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm no. I'm just saying, like my knee
Speaker 1: jerk is is to say, like, that's not really you
Speaker 1: know what this team is about. The Chargers was the
Speaker 1: tight gend. That was the three point win, and that was,
Speaker 1: you know, a good team at least at the time.
Speaker 1: You know it's yeah, you think that may change on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have the Jets, the Jets, Houston, Carolina, Atlanta.
Speaker 1: There's a five really bad teams, right, but really bad.
Speaker 1: But when you start looking at the trend, Okay, so
Speaker 1: you've played one team in the Browns, which I did
Speaker 1: leave one in the Charges, I think a good win.
Speaker 1: I didn't think we're awful. In you you're mixing the
Speaker 1: Panthers and the Falcons. Tonight, Falcons are what they are.
Speaker 1: Even though they had gotten themselves to five hundred, as
Speaker 1: Burt Rear pointed out just eleven days ago, these last
Speaker 1: three games they have won by a combined ninety four
Speaker 1: to thirteen. That's a team that is trending as many
Speaker 1: points as the Falcons have lost the last two months.
Speaker 1: But they know they've the Patriots. To me, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's what we started with. Five, five and oh on
Speaker 1: the road now, I mean, yes, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: there's not I mean, they played four bad teams. I
Speaker 1: don't care. They've won every road game. Other teams are
Speaker 1: going on the road against bad teams and losing one.
Speaker 1: Pagriots haven't lost any and not only they haven't lost
Speaker 1: any since that Houston and really none of them have
Speaker 1: been close. Like they blew out the bad teams. And
Speaker 1: you know, even tonight when they kind of stumble around
Speaker 1: a little bit and go four for twelve on third down,
Speaker 1: it's still thirteen nothing in the game's kind of over
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, right unless you gave the nod
Speaker 1: earlier than that. Oh, I gave the knot at three nothing.
Speaker 1: We're gonna step aside here, we'll come back. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to Alex and California's speed. He's out in California as well,
Speaker 1: and Aaron, who is a bone to pick with you, Paul,
Speaker 1: I don't know about what. Who has a bone to
Speaker 1: pick with me? Aaron in Minnesota, Okay, because I just
Speaker 1: said that they could go to the Super Bowl, So
Speaker 1: I don't see how I can get boned pick. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Aaron doesn't think that, but we'll find out.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm too positive. What do you think the
Speaker 1: odds are of that? I'm gonna say zero. I'd say
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Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots. Twenty five to nothing. The
Speaker 1: Patriots get their first shutout of the year. Another road
Speaker 1: win that makes five road wins. They are undefeated on
Speaker 1: the road still, right, that's Y's craziness. It's weird when
Speaker 1: you have that team. A couple of years ago, the
Speaker 1: couldn't win any games on the road. I mean they
Speaker 1: did at the end, but just strange outworks winning the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But right right, that's like, you know, these
Speaker 1: guys that we won't want to want to lose a
Speaker 1: game on the road all year they go on the road,
Speaker 1: they'll lose. I don't know. There's no rhyme or reason too,
Speaker 1: it's just strange. They moved to seven and four on
Speaker 1: the season. And now we're taking your calls. We'll go
Speaker 1: to Alex in California. Eight five five, Pat's five hundred.
Speaker 1: That's the ACE ticket hotline. Alex. What's going on? What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1: First time caller, Love the show. Bactually at the Browns
Speaker 1: game last weekend, Super high, super great weekend. But I
Speaker 1: did want to bring up a point that was made
Speaker 1: after the Jets game, I think by you, Paul. But
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, how you thought that Belichick wanted to
Speaker 1: make a statement by keeping the foot on the gas
Speaker 1: depensely scoring fifty points against a team like the Jets,
Speaker 1: although they weren't able to like win those close games
Speaker 1: early in the year, like Tampa, Dallas, like Miami. I
Speaker 1: really felt like they needed to hold their head up
Speaker 1: high on something. And I feel like that Jets game
Speaker 1: was kind of it, but kind of kind of ran
Speaker 1: across that point you made a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and it kind of its true and it reminds me
Speaker 1: about the end of the twenty eighteen season kind of. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think that that that was why he continued
Speaker 1: to go. I think he was trying to really pump
Speaker 1: the team up, you know, really build him up a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think that's why he kept the foot
Speaker 1: on the gas that day. Yeah. No, I I totally
Speaker 1: felt like that was a big turning point of the season.
Speaker 1: And who knows, We'll see what happens with this in here,
Speaker 1: all right, Alex appreciate the call, Thanks buddy, Thanks for
Speaker 1: checking in. Spiing Fresno. Always check it in pre end
Speaker 1: post speed. What do you got for us? Let's have it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm never sure what to make of a
Speaker 1: Thursday night situation. I mean, yeah, the old line was
Speaker 1: a fatigue when Max is getting hit so much. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta love that the defensive down on the third
Speaker 1: and one and fourth and one. But the stuff that's
Speaker 1: on my mind is twenty eight to three. Stof Morick talk. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, it's twenty five to nothing. It's the same
Speaker 1: point differential, which is nice, But there's like when you
Speaker 1: were down sixteen to nothing, when you were up to
Speaker 1: sixteen nothing, I mean, I was thinking that it was
Speaker 1: probably more likely we'd somehow make it to twenty eighth
Speaker 1: than that the Falcons were gonna gonna field goal. But
Speaker 1: but here's there's so many stupid questions to ask about this,
Speaker 1: but here's here's the one I'll land on. So the
Speaker 1: Falcons missed a field goal earlier, and again they had
Speaker 1: that chance to get their three. So what are the
Speaker 1: chances that you're up twenty five to three and you
Speaker 1: and Bill can go to victory formation? But he instead says,
Speaker 1: you know, what's the chances that Bill would have done that?
Speaker 1: Zero or five? Ten? I wonder if twenty three even
Speaker 1: means anything to him, Like, does that even register on?
Speaker 1: I honestly don't done. I think I think there's a
Speaker 1: better chance that he would have thrown a bomb to
Speaker 1: try to score a touchdown, right, Honestly, because that's what
Speaker 1: he's done in these In these games, he's continued to
Speaker 1: try to school. Now it is funny. I didn't see
Speaker 1: any twenty three shirt reports, though, I'm sad to say so,
Speaker 1: hopefully like I was wearing mine and I have one
Speaker 1: of your original nice? Oh wow, the og nice? How
Speaker 1: much you make on try? All right? Good, have a
Speaker 1: good week. Thanks enough? Nothing left now, but let's go
Speaker 1: to Aaron and Minnesota and his bone that he has
Speaker 1: to pick with Paul. Aaron, what's up? Can you hear me? Yeah? Hey,
Speaker 1: love you guys. Um, I'm an andy guy. That's why
Speaker 1: I want to you with Paul. Okay, yeah, it's over
Speaker 1: a dumb play. Really, I'm an andy guy too. Is
Speaker 1: it the fullback play? Like grudgingly walking the call against
Speaker 1: later that was overturned? Oh okay, yeah, I feel that
Speaker 1: was absolutely the right call by the officials. Now why
Speaker 1: is that? Why do you disagree with Mike Pereira? I
Speaker 1: always do, um the guys that it's a masters that
Speaker 1: run the officials, no less than yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: You're you're right, not always yeah, but later that he
Speaker 1: he waved a fair catch late and Slater. If you
Speaker 1: watch it he was running and then was trying to
Speaker 1: get out of the way. Yes, And he was definitely
Speaker 1: trying to get out of the way, no question. But
Speaker 1: he hit all the flight was shifting to the right, yes,
Speaker 1: same way that later was no right. So let me
Speaker 1: let me just add this is the way I would say,
Speaker 1: And obviously no one really cares. It was an inconsequential play.
Speaker 1: But I said this when when they decided to pick
Speaker 1: the flag up. I said to Mike, so you're telling
Speaker 1: me that if that contact caused him to lose the ball,
Speaker 1: the Patriots would have gotten the ball. Like, does that
Speaker 1: seem fair? Because there was clearly contact between the defender
Speaker 1: and the returner on a fair catch. So you're telling
Speaker 1: me if the ball lift though, what, it doesn't matter late, earlier, indifferent.
Speaker 1: You have to give the guy a chance to catch
Speaker 1: the ball, which I thought he was trying to do.
Speaker 1: He was trying, but he didn't was kind of drifting him. Correct. Okay, er,
Speaker 1: But here's what they ruled was it was incidental contact,
Speaker 1: Not that it was late, not that it was pushed
Speaker 1: into him, not nothing. They just said it was incidental contact,
Speaker 1: which I don't have a huge problem with. But you
Speaker 1: have a rule in the book probably should have been
Speaker 1: a penalty. You can't hit him, but but he did.
Speaker 1: And here's the question, Aaron, and and I think it's
Speaker 1: a good one. If that contact had caused a fumble
Speaker 1: and the Patriots recovered it, do you think they still
Speaker 1: would have said, no, no penalty there. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, And it's it's like it is, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a funny one. Um. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: there was on a you know, no question, but that
Speaker 1: that's not a really a question of intent. Hey, Aaron thinks,
Speaker 1: actually have one more question for you. How does one
Speaker 1: get to be an andy guy? How does that happen?
Speaker 1: Because he fights with Paul and Fred and fights with
Speaker 1: Eric and challenges Eric on like Deuce doesn't. Eric needs
Speaker 1: to be challenged more and not just coddled like a
Speaker 1: little boy. Aaron, do you do you call all the time?
Speaker 1: You need to start calling during the week. You've you've
Speaker 1: quickly become my favorite caller ever. I love that you
Speaker 1: can't coddle him like a child. I love that he
Speaker 1: does get treated with kids. Yeah, he's nailed it. Eric
Speaker 1: just nailed it. Yeah, he's in his bed right now
Speaker 1: and his full man pajamas just zonked out. Aaron called
Speaker 1: during the week, he got you always got one of
Speaker 1: those little caps, right, Oh yeah, cap cape, And I
Speaker 1: went to sleep. I had my tea and uh and
Speaker 1: the meditation. I was. I didn't even have to stay
Speaker 1: up and watch the game because before the season I
Speaker 1: pinioned the Patriots to beat Atlanta, so I knew what
Speaker 1: was going to happen. Aaron, don't be a stranger. Thanks buddy,
Speaker 1: Thanks great job, Aaron. Thank shots. The epitome of Squidward
Speaker 1: otherwise known as Eric Um. Let's go to Kevin and
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Kevin, you're up next year? On the Patriots
Speaker 1: postgame show presented by Cyber Reason. Hello, hey boys, how
Speaker 1: are you doing good? Vin? How are you hey? I
Speaker 1: was I was just listening that the talk about the
Speaker 1: Slater play. I think, I sink I think Slater got
Speaker 1: away with one just because he's been in, you know,
Speaker 1: an MVP on special teams for so many years. I
Speaker 1: think I think if there was somebody else, I think
Speaker 1: they call that um. But anyway, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: call and say, as always, haven't talked to you guys
Speaker 1: since last year. Great, great, job is always great pregame
Speaker 1: and postgame show. You know, it's I walk away from this,
Speaker 1: this this game going. You know, Hey, we have a
Speaker 1: lot to clean up, but we won. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing that's my takeaway over the last few weeks. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that we need to clean up
Speaker 1: and get better at, but we're getting wins. And there's
Speaker 1: so many bad teams that have games where they do
Speaker 1: a lot of good things, but they do enough bad
Speaker 1: things to lose. And I'll take this any day. I
Speaker 1: don't We're not a finished product by any means, but
Speaker 1: I like the fact that we're having more progress and
Speaker 1: more success until you're each week and we still have
Speaker 1: something to learn about when they go do the film
Speaker 1: work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. So anyway, thanks guys, all right,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And I think tonight's things to clean up
Speaker 1: a more understandable too, just because of the spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Thursday night stuff. Yeah, And what I like is
Speaker 1: that you're coming up on there's no more qualifiers. You're
Speaker 1: gonna play the Tennessee Titans, you're gonna play the Buffalo bits.
Speaker 1: Like It's just it's illustrated right there. We were watching,
Speaker 1: you know, a little of the NBC Sports Boston. To
Speaker 1: Mike's point, you know, okay, so the best win right
Speaker 1: now is six and five or five and four, But
Speaker 1: do you haven't eat and two team followed by a
Speaker 1: six and three team and then a week after that
Speaker 1: you got another You're gonna have that six and three
Speaker 1: team again, so you have opportunities to post the wins
Speaker 1: that other teams have posted. It's right there in front
Speaker 1: of you. Ye yeah, I and I think that is, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like one of the main things to look
Speaker 1: forward for the rest of the season. You've got a
Speaker 1: seven and four a team right now that still has
Speaker 1: some untapped potential. They've still they've still got some things
Speaker 1: that I don't think they've fully realized yet. And it's
Speaker 1: certainly offensively. I don't say how the defense can't get better.
Speaker 1: On Sunday, I thought, you know, you kind of saw
Speaker 1: exactly what this team could do when it's really clicking, right,
Speaker 1: you know, But that was with one running back. You know,
Speaker 1: they had a Harris back in there tonight and I
Speaker 1: basically just a tiny little bit, but basically you had
Speaker 1: the same production, is is my my point? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of twenty for one hundred, you had ten and
Speaker 1: ten for fifty each. Yeah, okay, you know, and you
Speaker 1: might say you can only I know you might say,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the ten and ten for fifty each,
Speaker 1: keep them fresh, blah blah blah. Yeah. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's wrong, but I'm just saying, like you basically had
Speaker 1: the same production. That's why I put them together. Chad,
Speaker 1: Chad in Los Angeles? What's going on? Chad? Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: how are you tonight? Real real good? Thank you. I'm
Speaker 1: the riddles of the phone. The phone banks are loaded. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're doing well. I am incredibly excited about what's been happening.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're here. I'm kind of actually, um
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how we got here, especially with
Speaker 1: the defense being as strong as it is. I'm also
Speaker 1: wondering what your guys's opinion is as far as jude
Speaker 1: On being one of the best acquisitions we've had. I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe ever, like, yeah, where does it rank
Speaker 1: in your in your guys's perspective, um, you know, throughout
Speaker 1: the years, because it seems like the dynasty is continuing on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I this is I mean Judean's what you
Speaker 1: hope a Dahlias Thomas would have been. And granted, this
Speaker 1: is a sample size that you know, we're whatever eleven
Speaker 1: games in or that now, but it's hard to ask
Speaker 1: for more. And I think the combination of signing jude
Speaker 1: On and in draft Barmore, who just you know that
Speaker 1: those are the kind of guys. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: they've been searching for a guy like that forever, but
Speaker 1: now they have one. The guy that can be disruptive
Speaker 1: and that that's just consistently a problem. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare him to Seymore, but I
Speaker 1: think the impact he has on the game is consistent
Speaker 1: with a guy like Seymour of playing up and down
Speaker 1: the line pressure. You know, if you try to block
Speaker 1: him with one guy, if you try to go for
Speaker 1: it on third and short, he's going to be pushing
Speaker 1: guys into the backfield. And so just the combination of
Speaker 1: those two I think has really just elevated everything else,
Speaker 1: allowed other guys to make plays, and uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's all, it's all clicking right now. I think the
Speaker 1: offense has got to continue to make strides and find consistency,
Speaker 1: but I feel real good about the d right now. Yeah, Ched,
Speaker 1: I guess so impressed with how far we've come. I mean,
Speaker 1: in just such a short period of time. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Since Brady Laft that that this is where we're at,
Speaker 1: I just I can't believe it. Yeah, well, I'd be
Speaker 1: hesitant to say the dynasty continues. There's seven and four.
Speaker 1: It is. It is a really nice change from where
Speaker 1: we thought this team was, and where the team, where
Speaker 1: the team was at the end of last season, and
Speaker 1: where they were just a few weeks ago at two
Speaker 1: and four. So these are all positive developments. But to
Speaker 1: put that type of pressure and expectation on ourselves and
Speaker 1: on the team by saying, well we have our next,
Speaker 1: our next fifteen to eighteen year quarterback that was set
Speaker 1: on the telecast tonight eighteen eighteen years, it's ridiculous. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's let's, you know, be grateful for what we
Speaker 1: have here, which is now a winning team, a team
Speaker 1: that is you know, we're happy when they got to
Speaker 1: five hundred. They've rattled off three more wins since then.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I think that they've gotten to a
Speaker 1: point where I no longer look at them going against
Speaker 1: other teams and feeling like they don't really have much
Speaker 1: of a shot, right I think they have a chance
Speaker 1: on anybody right now, and I think if, uh, if
Speaker 1: things go right, I think they have a chance to
Speaker 1: win a lot of games down the stretch here, even
Speaker 1: with these this four game stretch coming. But I'm not
Speaker 1: willing to say, like three years ago, if we were
Speaker 1: seven and four we were, we'd be sitting here with
Speaker 1: panic in the streets. Yeah, you know, to to to
Speaker 1: continue that like the dynasty talk like I'm not ready
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm ready to say this is a
Speaker 1: really good football team capable of beating anybody. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good football team. And but my my problem
Speaker 1: is Paul, and it's not a problem. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: why in a second. Other teams that they're still going
Speaker 1: to face, and other teams that are out there, I
Speaker 1: still say are better on paper, they have, they have
Speaker 1: better teams, But the virtually every other team, many of
Speaker 1: those that I you know now because you see these
Speaker 1: teams losing games that they choose some personnel and frankly
Speaker 1: and losing some personnel, but also just losing games sometimes
Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers, Yeah, they continue to lose personnel here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers aren't anywhere near as talented is the team
Speaker 1: that we played in Week three exactly exactly, So um,
Speaker 1: Week four, whatever it was, it was Week four. I remember.
Speaker 1: I seem to remember a big Week four game around
Speaker 1: here that people kept talking about circle week four on
Speaker 1: the calendar. Was that because he was the Buccaneers. Do
Speaker 1: you remember some of the preseason talk of you can't
Speaker 1: have Mac Jones play in that game, it will ruin them.
Speaker 1: Oh man, some of the stuff, Like, I mean, I've
Speaker 1: said it before, just like I think they should just
Speaker 1: you know, probably they're gonna start Cam and bring Mac
Speaker 1: along slowly. Like thank god I was wrong about that.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna be fair, I believe at least my
Speaker 1: thoughts on it were, you don't want to bring Mac
Speaker 1: Jones into that game. If if Com were the starter
Speaker 1: and he faltered in the first three, he didn't want
Speaker 1: mac Jones to have that be his first start the NFL,
Speaker 1: which is different than just having him that much different,
Speaker 1: but it is different. I think it's a lot different.
Speaker 1: I just felt like, if you felt like he was
Speaker 1: your starter, I don't understand why you would say he's
Speaker 1: my starter, but not against Tampa. No, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I wouldn't start him, and that was his
Speaker 1: first shot at you. That was a shot at Mike
Speaker 1: and Tony. Okay, but I would I would not have
Speaker 1: made that his first football game. I'm saying, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, like I said, if I
Speaker 1: thought he'd done it, if I thought he was my starter,
Speaker 1: and that was the week I thought he passed cam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: were you no training wheels? Dad? Was I a no
Speaker 1: training wheels dad? Yeah? Just when you were teaching your
Speaker 1: your boys bicycles, did they have training wheels? No, they
Speaker 1: did not have training wheels. Well, I mean they had.
Speaker 1: They did have the little you know, the little little
Speaker 1: tyke bikes that have like coasterine, but once they tried
Speaker 1: to learn how to ride bikes, they didn't have training ohne,
Speaker 1: no training wheels for my kids. So they had a
Speaker 1: coaster bike that my my daughter used a lot. But
Speaker 1: when she got her first bike came with training wheels
Speaker 1: and I took him right off. I'm like, you don't
Speaker 1: need them through the yeah, donate them. No training wheels.
Speaker 1: We did have a hard time with my younger son. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he had he had a little Uh, he had some issues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have one bad issue on a bike with my son,
Speaker 1: with my youngest to the digger. I remember. So they
Speaker 1: you know, when when the kids in the neighborhood started
Speaker 1: to like really like venture out and ride around, then
Speaker 1: they had to get him to ride a bike, right,
Speaker 1: So they all they all helped him out, and he
Speaker 1: was you know, he got up to speed and he
Speaker 1: was fine. And uh, I would say like maybe a
Speaker 1: month after all of this happened, like they sort of
Speaker 1: had an intervention. They can we're gonna help you, Tea,
Speaker 1: We're gonna help you. So I'm driving home one day
Speaker 1: and and there's like this long, windy road that leads
Speaker 1: to my street. So I'm driving around community and they
Speaker 1: come yea by the security guard. Yeah. So I'm going
Speaker 1: I'm coming around. I'm coming around the bend of this
Speaker 1: street and and I see this like a bike on
Speaker 1: its side and like, kid, oh Jesus, it's TJ. He
Speaker 1: had fallen over. A couple of people had helped him,
Speaker 1: and he was like all sad. He wasn't crying, but
Speaker 1: he was like really embarrassed. UM, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what happened? He goes, he was just driving up street,
Speaker 1: the steering wheel turn, I hit the fence I found
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could stop laugh and I felt
Speaker 1: so bad. The same thing happened to me, but I
Speaker 1: was tj I wiped out on my bike on a street,
Speaker 1: got all caught up, and my parents just happened to
Speaker 1: be driving the other way and we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's Mike, and stopped and help me. That's a funny
Speaker 1: random Mike. Mike, that's my real name. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my real name. I forget him. Like, who's Mike number
Speaker 1: D train. Yeah, let's go to a Connor and Waltam.
Speaker 1: What's up? Connor? You're on the Patriots Pulse game show
Speaker 1: twenty five to nothing shut out over the Falcons in
Speaker 1: Atlanta tonight. What's up? Yeah? I mean, honestly, like Thursday
Speaker 1: night football is always weird, So I mean about as
Speaker 1: happy as I could be about that. UM just had
Speaker 1: a quick question regarding Mac Jones and like the comment
Speaker 1: about the training wheels, UM heard a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about his feeling like as it relates to maybe the
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the draft, they're current quarterbacks in the league. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what that means, like the physical
Speaker 1: aspect of him with the arm strength and um, maybe
Speaker 1: the ability to make the big throw, but the decision
Speaker 1: making and everything else that goes involved, like the mental aspect.
Speaker 1: Why does that get to overlook in the NFL versus
Speaker 1: maybe the Josh Allen it doesn't. That's why. That's why
Speaker 1: he was a first round pick. I think that's I
Speaker 1: think that's why, and I think the Patriots we were
Speaker 1: happy to get him there. But I also give some
Speaker 1: credit to the to the coaching there there. There have
Speaker 1: been times and counter thanks for the call, but just
Speaker 1: on physical ability, he wouldn't have been a first round pick. No,
Speaker 1: he would. He would not have. And you know we
Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier today. I look, these are
Speaker 1: long days, So I apologize if it was us talking
Speaker 1: about it in the pre game, or if it was
Speaker 1: me and Beatle talking about it earlier today was zo.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to you know, these letdown games
Speaker 1: that rookies have, or maybe a letdown game that the
Speaker 1: Patriots have, it's like, uh, just expecting this, you know,
Speaker 1: really bad performance for mac Jones. I don't know that
Speaker 1: the coaches would let him do that. I don't know
Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels and Belichick would leave him out there
Speaker 1: for a four interception game or like like we saw
Speaker 1: last week or the week before it Again they're blending
Speaker 1: together too. Really has five pass attempts in the in
Speaker 1: the second half and a game when it just doesn't
Speaker 1: have a going It wasn't against Cleveland as the week before.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying though, So some of this
Speaker 1: decision making, I'll give most of the credit to Mac,
Speaker 1: and I'll give a you know, some of the credit
Speaker 1: to the coaching and the way he's he's been brought
Speaker 1: along this season too. You know, I was frustrating earlier on.
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen him you know,
Speaker 1: maybe had the rains taken off a little bit more,
Speaker 1: especially on some red zone plays. But it's hard to
Speaker 1: argue with the results that we're getting now. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: they've done a good job. I mean, if you believe
Speaker 1: it's all connected, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I just I go back to when
Speaker 1: they announced Mac as the starter, and that was, you know,
Speaker 1: surprising they I mean, I guess we first heard Cam
Speaker 1: was getting released. Was the first part of it, but
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. I mean, that's why all week he listened
Speaker 1: to is is Josh going to stick around? I think,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's freaking out now that Josh McDaniels is
Speaker 1: gonna leave, But h it's it's it's been a clinic
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, and you also got
Speaker 1: to mention just Mac being a great fit for here
Speaker 1: and just you know, the coaching staff and everything is
Speaker 1: in place, and they went out and they got all
Speaker 1: these guys, including you know, two tight ends. I know,
Speaker 1: you know one one's worked out a little bit and
Speaker 1: the other right now, but they kind of put everything
Speaker 1: in lace and had a support system for him. And
Speaker 1: now that the offensive line is playing like we hope
Speaker 1: they would at the beginning of the season, with you know,
Speaker 1: Trump Brown coming back, but just playing together in front
Speaker 1: given him the time. I think that's you know, we
Speaker 1: saw it really last week. I think this is this
Speaker 1: week's a little bit of a Thursday night game and
Speaker 1: you got to take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: But they've done an excellent job in it, and it
Speaker 1: just doesn't it's never seemed like Max swimming in. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he's you know, making mistakes and then
Speaker 1: they're snowballing. Um, you know, so they they've done a
Speaker 1: good job of that. I you know, I would be
Speaker 1: curious how they would manage him if there was a
Speaker 1: game like that where wow, that he's getting crushed out there,
Speaker 1: like you just you can't get anything going, you know,
Speaker 1: would they what would they do to kind of pull
Speaker 1: back or to help? Hopefully we'll not have to see that.
Speaker 1: But um, but they But they've done a really good
Speaker 1: job and he's playing great and uh it's it's great
Speaker 1: for the team. I mean the long term viability of
Speaker 1: the Patriots to have a kid like this playing like this.
Speaker 1: Sure love all the calls coming in. Oh this is great.
Speaker 1: Go out to California again. Well talk to Steve this
Speaker 1: time on the Patriots post game shown to buy cyber Reason.
Speaker 1: Hi Steve, thanks for Colin. What do you got for us? Hey?
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, been a long time fan forever, first
Speaker 1: time collect just did ask you guys what your opinion was. Um,
Speaker 1: love this offense, Love Mac. I feel like our offense
Speaker 1: still doesn't have an identity and by that I mean
Speaker 1: we still don't have you know, Jacobe will go off
Speaker 1: for a game and then Kendrick Borne will go off
Speaker 1: for a game, Nelson Nagel will go off for a game.
Speaker 1: But we don't have those go to guys and U
Speaker 1: or at least consistently. It seems random. So and I
Speaker 1: think once we start getting Johnny Smith involved, I feel
Speaker 1: like we're just not firing on all filinders. And once
Speaker 1: we do, it's my opinion, and I think the league
Speaker 1: will be on notice once we start firing on all filinders.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'd rather have it be this way.
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. Yeah. I love that the
Speaker 1: identity of the offense is power. It's it's power football.
Speaker 1: They run the ball, that's the identity. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean when was the last time they ran for less
Speaker 1: than one hundred yards in the game. That's so true.
Speaker 1: And and Damian Harris back there, you can't even argue
Speaker 1: with it. I mean, they remandre, especially in my opinion,
Speaker 1: he passed the eye test. The guy just he falls
Speaker 1: for five yards even when he's getting pressured in the backfield.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But I just don't I think that this
Speaker 1: offense hasn't even unlocked their true potential. And watch they disagree.
Speaker 1: I think this is what the offense is. I think
Speaker 1: they're doing exactly what they want to do. On offense.
Speaker 1: They're they're controlling the ball, they're pounding away at defenses.
Speaker 1: This is exactly how they wanted to play when you
Speaker 1: if you asked them in August, how they thought it
Speaker 1: would unfold. This is it what you've seen in the
Speaker 1: last five weeks. We're gonna hold the ball, We're gonna
Speaker 1: beat you up. We're gonna come at you with our big, rough,
Speaker 1: tough offensive line. They were a little bit shaky earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. They've gotten it together Trent Brown being back.
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna play power football and they're gonna shorten games.
Speaker 1: They're gonna control the ball thirty two, thirty three, thirty
Speaker 1: four minutes, and they're gonna just beat you to a pall.
Speaker 1: That's what they do. Well. I'm going to agree with
Speaker 1: both of you because Paul, I think they do have
Speaker 1: an identity. It's a run the ball type of offense,
Speaker 1: and it's a power offense. But I also agree with
Speaker 1: Steve and that I think John H. Smith can play better.
Speaker 1: I think Hunter Henry can be more involved and but
Speaker 1: but I don't want to do it Steve, if this
Speaker 1: makes sense to the point where it becomes predictable, and
Speaker 1: that's a luxury you can afford when you're Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and you have Julian Edelman. Okay, he was the motor
Speaker 1: that made the offense go and everyone knew that was
Speaker 1: his go to guy and they couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 1: That's a luxury when you have the greatest quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time and one of the most underrated receivers and
Speaker 1: you don't have either of that right now. So I
Speaker 1: would rather them keep this identity, but just I guess,
Speaker 1: enhance it, or supplement it, or do whatever by untapping
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that potential that you're talking about, Steve,
Speaker 1: I agree, And especially with some tough games coming up,
Speaker 1: specifically those two Bills games. You know those Bills are
Speaker 1: going to hone in on our running game and and
Speaker 1: dare Max to throw the ball and he's going to
Speaker 1: do a good job like he's done all season. Um
Speaker 1: but that, but he's relying on efficiency. And I love him,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big fan, but when when they're
Speaker 1: shut down our run game and we need to turn
Speaker 1: to that passing game, that's when you need you know
Speaker 1: Nelson to make consistent plays, Kendrick to make consistent plays,
Speaker 1: and especially Johnny. I really do think Johnny is the
Speaker 1: key to our offense. When we get that guy going,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna confuse defensive coordinators in my opinion.
Speaker 1: All right, well, all you have to do is get
Speaker 1: him inside the thirty. Yes, Paul, I have a question
Speaker 1: question in the back. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Why why
Speaker 1: do people think it's a matter of time before he
Speaker 1: gets going Johnny Smith? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know, because
Speaker 1: he was expensive. I mean, I don't think he's been
Speaker 1: like terrible like a lot of other people do. But
Speaker 1: I think I had mentioned it was like his career
Speaker 1: high is like forty five catches. Yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: on pace for forty five catches. And I just don't
Speaker 1: think that he is I think people think that he
Speaker 1: is something more than he was. Yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it. I'm guilty of of you know,
Speaker 1: pounding that drum about john who And I mean I
Speaker 1: did it tonight and I don't know tonight. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm just I just don't know if he's going
Speaker 1: to be an impact player for them. And I don't,
Speaker 1: and I don't, and I don't know that it really
Speaker 1: matters all that much because they've gotten other guys to stop.
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters at all. So it's I
Speaker 1: think it's just one of those things when you signed
Speaker 1: all those guys in free agency. Some are gonna work,
Speaker 1: some weren't. It's unfortunate that you know, clearly one that
Speaker 1: you signed for four years hasn't worked out, but he
Speaker 1: is here for another three years that they want him.
Speaker 1: So I just look at him like you have. I
Speaker 1: don't understand why you feel the need to have like
Speaker 1: a go to guy Like I wish they had like
Speaker 1: better options, like you know, maybe more dynamic options so
Speaker 1: they didn't have to constantly peck their way down the
Speaker 1: field like maybe they could get you know, you know,
Speaker 1: have a guy take a five yard slant and pick
Speaker 1: up forty on a more consistent basis. Okay, maybe I
Speaker 1: would like to have more dynamic options, but I don't
Speaker 1: have any problem with spreading it around between Myers, Agalore
Speaker 1: and born. Um. Henry has been in there now that
Speaker 1: Smith was back in there, he was you know, he
Speaker 1: had a a you know, a good catch and run tonight. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been by far and away, the least productive of
Speaker 1: those guys. But I don't, I don't. Why do you
Speaker 1: need to have one guy that that's like to me?
Speaker 1: An identity isn't about we throw the ball to Edelman,
Speaker 1: that's our identity. To identity, the identity of that those
Speaker 1: offenses was quick timing, passing, passing attack. The slot receiver
Speaker 1: was was a focal point. That was the identity. The
Speaker 1: identity of this offense right now is power football. That's
Speaker 1: what they do. It doesn't have to be Stevenson, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be Harris. But you know they're going
Speaker 1: to run the ball and that's how they're going to
Speaker 1: try to win. All Right, we're gonna move to while working. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to Atlanta where the game was
Speaker 1: played tonight, the Patriots twenty five nothing win over the
Speaker 1: Falcons in Atlanta in front of a lot of Patriots fans. Jordan,
Speaker 1: were you one of those fans? Did you go to
Speaker 1: the game? Jordan? Absolutely, guys, absolutely nice. The last time
Speaker 1: I called into the show, I was actually in Fox Throne.
Speaker 1: We played the Dolphins in the final game of the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteenth season, and I said the safety struggled against
Speaker 1: tight ends in that game, Jessecki won back in the
Speaker 1: end zone whatever that catch was. We played phenomenal against
Speaker 1: not only Pitts but everybody they brought in. And Matthew
Speaker 1: Judon might be the best thing since Plice Bread. I
Speaker 1: want to hear you guys thoughts. Yeah, I agree. We were.
Speaker 1: We were in loving him all season long, and ten
Speaker 1: and a half sacks the career high for him, so
Speaker 1: clearly he is, uh you know, having just as good
Speaker 1: at a time as we are watching him play. All right,
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Speaker 1: post live from our studios inside Guette Stadium. Here's Hardy.
Speaker 1: Keep up the energy from Joe in Florida. Thanks for
Speaker 1: holding the ford in there at a night, gentleman. Pat's
Speaker 1: got the wind, sustained no injuries, and now I have
Speaker 1: a weekend off to prepare for the Titans mission. Accomplished
Speaker 1: two observations, he says. I thought Myers gained a first
Speaker 1: down at the end of the first half on a
Speaker 1: third downplay, but they him short. I believe Myers landed
Speaker 1: on the defender and then rolled forward for the yard
Speaker 1: to gain. Should have been reviewed in the booths. Instead,
Speaker 1: the Pats settled for three points if it was the
Speaker 1: first down. Pats had a time out to use the
Speaker 1: twenty three seconds left for a couple of shots at
Speaker 1: the end zone. Do you remember that play? That was
Speaker 1: the clock management that I talked about, and I actually
Speaker 1: mentioned that it was close and I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: may have been looking for a measurement there, Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the Myers it was close measurement. They
Speaker 1: never showed a replay. Sometimes when you see slow motion,
Speaker 1: you can see that he actually caught it beyond the
Speaker 1: line and then came back. Um. But it was. It
Speaker 1: was definitely close. I thought that there was a chance
Speaker 1: for a measurement there. Yeah. He also says, my entertainment
Speaker 1: highlight was Trent Brown pulling and sprinting at some corner
Speaker 1: and turning was setting a record on the back pedal
Speaker 1: for good reason. Yeah, we were talking about Trent Brown
Speaker 1: just as the game started, and just the sheer size
Speaker 1: of the man. It's just in a game of huge men,
Speaker 1: he's so big. He's just we compared it in Hardy
Speaker 1: had the perfect comparison. It was Michael Or in Blindside
Speaker 1: that the actor who played Michael Or right, not Michael
Speaker 1: Or as a pro with Baltimore, that the actor who
Speaker 1: played him in the movie was so much bigger than
Speaker 1: everybody else in the movie. That's what That's what Trent
Speaker 1: Brown looks like in the NFL yield. Oh that's great,
Speaker 1: all right, Colin in the Bay Area. You are next
Speaker 1: up Patriots postgame Show presented by Cyber Reason. What's up, Colin? Colin? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and there you are. What's up? Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say one thing. I thought it
Speaker 1: was like a great defensive game for sure, but when
Speaker 1: we were down, we were up sixt nothing back through
Speaker 1: the interception either, any of your thirteen nothing when that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just nothing when he threw that interception. Anybody worried
Speaker 1: when I thought, like maybe a change the momentum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm always worried. Okay, so Mike is always worried and
Speaker 1: I and I kind of never am so hardy. How
Speaker 1: did you feel? I was right in the middle. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, what they score here, and what it's it
Speaker 1: becomes interesting all over again. Now there was nothing to
Speaker 1: indicate that Atlanta was going to be able to finish
Speaker 1: that off, and you know, sure enough they they did not.
Speaker 1: But yeah, as as we're sitting here and Paul Paul
Speaker 1: knows if they Paul knows, if they score there, then
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, game on, thirteen seven, Game on.
Speaker 1: But you still had givens. I just didn't think there
Speaker 1: was any chance they would have score. I was watching
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. I know, I know you are,
Speaker 1: but I just think, all right, well, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna feel something, or maybe they're gonna get sparked.
Speaker 1: It's just no, technically, you guys are right. What do
Speaker 1: you guys think about Matt Ryan I think he's very good.
Speaker 1: I think he's very good too. Yes, I didn't get
Speaker 1: all the talk this week of you know, Matt Jones
Speaker 1: comp if like he was Matt Ryan. I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of that going around. Think, of course, I mean
Speaker 1: he's been a ten year excellent NFL starter. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw out the specifics of out there by
Speaker 1: himself tonight. Okay, so he just hit Kyle Pitts, that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just doesn't have anything else. He doesn't have a
Speaker 1: suitable offensive line, they don't have a running game. People
Speaker 1: are always like, well, you know, he's had great weapons
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, and he won an MVP when
Speaker 1: he did that, and he went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know. And I'm not saying that he's the greatest player.
Speaker 1: You know, I never have thought of him as one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. But I've always
Speaker 1: I've always thought of him as a pretty good player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Matt Jones could achieve that level of play consistently
Speaker 1: for a decade, like sign me up right now, Bill
Speaker 1: and Bowseman says, Nick Folks put on the good list
Speaker 1: before the game and probably probably lives up to it
Speaker 1: as soon as he kicked that first field goal, he knew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was in also on the good list. The whole
Speaker 1: defense again, especially Kyle Van Noi, we had all of that.
Speaker 1: Uh so thank you. We are in lockstep. We'll go
Speaker 1: to Atlanta once again. Brandon is in Atlanta on the
Speaker 1: Patriots post game Brandon Atlanta presented by Cyberries and High Brandon. Hey. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got home from that Patriots home game. That
Speaker 1: was just a total total domination. And I mean we
Speaker 1: were already like seventy thirty when we got there, but
Speaker 1: you know when it was like nineteen or what was it, yeah,
Speaker 1: nineteen nothing. It was really all Patriots sans then because
Speaker 1: the thousand fans were just like, yeah, we've seen this before,
Speaker 1: We're gone. But um, yeah it was it was. This
Speaker 1: was literally the greatest night of my life. Because one,
Speaker 1: I've been a Patriots fans for twenty plus years and
Speaker 1: I've lived in Atlanta for twenty plus years, so I
Speaker 1: rarely had a chance to see him, and this was
Speaker 1: my first time to see him. I had an amazing
Speaker 1: seat and yeah, I'm just it just was the greatest,
Speaker 1: greatest night of my life, hands down. Wow. I do
Speaker 1: have a question though, Um, the last time we've lost
Speaker 1: was the Dallas and we and our defense looked terrible.
Speaker 1: Is it that we fit things or was that just
Speaker 1: an anomaly? M that's the question find out. I think
Speaker 1: that's the question right there. I mean, that's an awesome
Speaker 1: offense that had a bunch of weapons that could spread
Speaker 1: you out. I mean, look at how the game ended
Speaker 1: with you know, Mills trying to cover CD Lamb. I
Speaker 1: mean that you know those are they played that kind
Speaker 1: of offense since Mike, Mike broke it all down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's talk after you know, after Buffalo
Speaker 1: with Sanders and you know, all of their their weapons
Speaker 1: beastly and digs and that's I mean, that's the best
Speaker 1: part is you really don't see those kinds of offenses
Speaker 1: because Tennessee is a really really good team, but they
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of offense, no nothing, And and
Speaker 1: the Cults are a pretty good team, they don't have
Speaker 1: that kind of offense. It's it's you know, it's just
Speaker 1: Buffalo and really Buffaloes well one dimensional. They don't run
Speaker 1: the right and I mean just you know, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: right now playoff seating if it were to happen right now,
Speaker 1: you're going to Kansas City week one, So you know, Brandon,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you had a great night. Not want me
Speaker 1: to focus on that. Well, that's the two part article
Speaker 1: will do. It's more of an off airy conversation. Stefan
Speaker 1: in Germany says, a typical sloppy Thursday night game, but
Speaker 1: the win is the thing, and Mac was better than
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Yeah tonight. Yeah, running game. He had a
Speaker 1: running game, and he had some receivers that caught his pass.
Speaker 1: But it's it's funny for it as bad as that
Speaker 1: game was from Atlanta. I didn't think Matt Ryan was
Speaker 1: terrible tonight. I think he plays for a terrible team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he made one bad throw. That was the
Speaker 1: throw that went off of Zakius's hands right to J. C.
Speaker 1: Jackson for the pick. He said the offense didn't fire
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. Again, maybe a point of contention for Paul,
Speaker 1: but the defense pitched to shut out with four picks.
Speaker 1: What more can you ask And this is maybe the
Speaker 1: best point. What more can you ask for from a
Speaker 1: rookie led team on a short week And I think
Speaker 1: that's the main takeaway. Absolutely, I have nothing to you
Speaker 1: thought I would argue with that. I think you would
Speaker 1: argue with whether or not the offense is firing on
Speaker 1: all cylinders, which not tonight, but the last game they did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but four for twelve and third down, that to
Speaker 1: me was like the epitome of Thursday Night I Tuesday
Speaker 1: Night football at its worst. I think where you and
Speaker 1: I disagree is how much room there is for the
Speaker 1: offense to get better. I think they've got a little
Speaker 1: higher ceiling maybe than you do. Yeah, probably that's it.
Speaker 1: And it comes down well, and I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what does thinks because it's offense and
Speaker 1: he doesn't really care pay attention during that. But it
Speaker 1: does feel to me right now kind of not as
Speaker 1: extreme as the preseason ending, but it feels like this
Speaker 1: was kind of the first act of this season and
Speaker 1: we saw, all right, they've got a good team, they
Speaker 1: can play, they're tough. You know, you've gotten the pieces
Speaker 1: to come together. And now over these next four games,
Speaker 1: really gonna find out who it is was their ceiling.
Speaker 1: You know, how good is this defense against some more
Speaker 1: very type offenses. Certainly they're gonna need to stop the run,
Speaker 1: uh here in these in these next four games that
Speaker 1: that's a huge part and that could get them two
Speaker 1: out of four wins. Just being good against the run. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, stop Tennessee take that out of their game
Speaker 1: as well as you know Jonathan Taylor at Indy who's
Speaker 1: awesome too. So still part of it. But here it
Speaker 1: comes like these four games, this is it, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what the real season play. Christ and Orlando.
Speaker 1: Hello Chris, Welcome into the Patriots post game Show presented
Speaker 1: by Cyber Reason. Hi Chris, how are you guys? Big band?
Speaker 1: Um just got a couple cool questions here for you guys.
Speaker 1: Just one of your thoughts. Um, So, when the Falcons
Speaker 1: got down, you know, in the red zone and they were,
Speaker 1: you know, seemed like they were moving the ball. I
Speaker 1: was at the game, um, Leaven Atlanta, Now I'm just
Speaker 1: from Orlando. That's what I put. If they kicked field goal,
Speaker 1: they make it, How does that change the game If
Speaker 1: they don't get that, you know, illegal formation that changed
Speaker 1: the game in any aspect? Do they do they get
Speaker 1: any momentum there? And how do you think the Patriots
Speaker 1: would have bounced back? I think I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I want to give him enough it changed. It
Speaker 1: does change the game, and that the next time they
Speaker 1: get down there and it's fourth thound, they can kick
Speaker 1: a field goal and make it thirteen six, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the game is still on at that point.
Speaker 1: You miss the first one, and then the second time
Speaker 1: you get down there, you can't you can't kick a
Speaker 1: field have to go for it on fourth You have
Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth thound. So okay, I
Speaker 1: think the game I quite honestly, I think they probably
Speaker 1: win the game nineteen to six. If that happens. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, presume that all the interceptions happen.
Speaker 1: But all right, and I hear I hear all this
Speaker 1: talk about Jude On and whatnot. I personally, when we
Speaker 1: signed him, I thought he was overpaid. Um, but what
Speaker 1: what do you guys have thought? Do you guys think
Speaker 1: he's overperformed or or how do you guys think he's
Speaker 1: performed this year? I will be the first to admit
Speaker 1: I was not a Matthew Judon expert before he joined
Speaker 1: the team. I knew he was a good player, and
Speaker 1: I knew him from you know, highlights. Essentially, I think
Speaker 1: it's worth every penny that he's getting paid, and I
Speaker 1: guess he. I would have to say he exceeded my
Speaker 1: expectations too, because at no point in the preseason did
Speaker 1: I say, you know, the guy that we're going to
Speaker 1: end up talking about more often than not after games
Speaker 1: through eleven weeks. As Matthew Judon, No, I would not
Speaker 1: have said, I'll tell you what I would have said.
Speaker 1: I would have said Pro Football Focus told us that
Speaker 1: it was the worst free agent signing, and he wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know, he was one of the lowest rated, you know,
Speaker 1: and all the things that he did, and I kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know why, because I so often mocked
Speaker 1: and ridicule that stuff, and I don't know why I
Speaker 1: put so much stock into it, but I was worried
Speaker 1: that he was going to be a bust and I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I don't I don't ever really remember him
Speaker 1: being a big factor against the Patriots and in games
Speaker 1: they played against Baltimore, Like I don't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I watched a lot of Baltimore games and he
Speaker 1: always was sort of he's on the Ravens like I,
Speaker 1: you know, Marlon Humphrey. Every time I I saw Baltimore
Speaker 1: play was making place. Yeah, you know, I never really
Speaker 1: remember Matthew Jude. I always thought he was sort of
Speaker 1: a real workman, like set the edge, physical guy, which
Speaker 1: is exactly what he's been. Yeah. Yeah for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Uh to Rob in Australia, we go, Hello, Rob, thanks
Speaker 1: for calling into the post game show. What's up? Boys are? Yeah? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to do I'm sure you get the artire.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make one comment, ask a couple of
Speaker 1: stupid questions. The first coment I wanted to make would
Speaker 1: come to the right place. I think, who's that guy
Speaker 1: Brandon Oregon? Because I think he's the only one who
Speaker 1: predicted a shutout in this in this game? Um, I
Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. And then the questions I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you guys, I'll take these off the air. So,
Speaker 1: Paul and Mike, which Patriots uniform of all times would
Speaker 1: you pair with Matthew Jude on red sleeve? Oh? And
Speaker 1: then Hardy a question for you, Yeah, which is worse?
Speaker 1: Grown Ups one or Grown Ups two? I will I
Speaker 1: will two is really abysmal. Yeah, well I'll take the
Speaker 1: second question first, Rob, Grown Ups two is worse because
Speaker 1: they thought it could be saved by a Shaquille O'Neil cameo.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what we'll do. We'll dress him
Speaker 1: up as a cop and we'll have him dance. And again,
Speaker 1: that's just the sign of any bad movie. Let's let's
Speaker 1: throw in a random dance scene here where the character dances,
Speaker 1: and again, it's funny. It's funny. We're all laughing here
Speaker 1: on this set, the camera guys laughing, we're all laughing.
Speaker 1: It's not funny to anyone else. It may have been
Speaker 1: funny to you guys when you were shooting it, but
Speaker 1: you really weren't concerned with what the product was going
Speaker 1: to be. It's a it's a it's a bad product.
Speaker 1: And what makes it really truly criminal is that all
Speaker 1: guys involved with it are capable of being funny on
Speaker 1: their own, whether it's Sandler or David Spade, any of them.
Speaker 1: Don't say Rob Schneider and no, yeah, I don't the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's well, that's another that's another deuce, Hollywood tip. Rob
Speaker 1: Schneider is the worst. Wow. Yeah, but take that one
Speaker 1: to your friends there in Australia. All right, thanks buddy.
Speaker 1: Oh did you want to hang on for their uniform answer?
Speaker 1: Hold on do you have a uniform answer? Yeah, my,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I've talked about this. The late
Speaker 1: seventies uniforms are my favorites. What about like the white ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the white ones with those red sleeves would be perfect.
Speaker 1: Hot hot, yeah, hot stuff, nineteen seventy eight uniforms. I'll
Speaker 1: google that one. Now. Hey, you boys be safe driving home,
Speaker 1: will you do? One? Also bugs me too about the
Speaker 1: whole grown ups thing is that Sandler has to portray
Speaker 1: himself as the most successful guy with the hot life,
Speaker 1: and then his friends are are, for the most part,
Speaker 1: a bunch of jerks who, you know, lie about how
Speaker 1: much money they have or they've got the you know,
Speaker 1: the ugly wives or whatever. It's like, it's so up
Speaker 1: and they just got they just show they just show
Speaker 1: up and do it anyway. Yeah, yeah, I'll play that
Speaker 1: guy because it's kind of like that in real life, right,
Speaker 1: Buddy's writ write Spike sad you said it. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the straight man. I've never seen his movies. Stand
Speaker 1: there's like the straight guy then in the movie and
Speaker 1: everybody else of the wacky kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all kind of they're all childhood friends and then
Speaker 1: they go off and they do their own things, and
Speaker 1: Hardy nails it like he's the successful agent and he's rich.
Speaker 1: And his wife is sal Mahayak, who was gorgeous and
Speaker 1: she's a very successful like designer, designer. Yeah, and all
Speaker 1: the other friends and Kevin James lies about how much
Speaker 1: money has and rents a Cadillac to make everyone else
Speaker 1: think that he's doing well. Right, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: rent it tonight. I'm gonna watch it. Isn't Maria Bellows
Speaker 1: his wife though, isn't she She's not bad? My god?
Speaker 1: Uh no, I don't know, but this is no, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And Chris Rock is married to my Rudolph. Also my
Speaker 1: Rudolph sign of comedy desperation anytime she shows up and
Speaker 1: starts mugging for the camera. Not funny, not funny, I agree,
Speaker 1: not funny. Don't worry. Nobody's listening anyway. He how dare
Speaker 1: you that's a little hurtful. We're doing a comprehensive breakdown
Speaker 1: in the movie Grown Ups because the caller asked us
Speaker 1: to do it, and jes so, you know, we may
Speaker 1: have broken a postgame record for phone calls tonight, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that we played in primetime on a Thursday,
Speaker 1: a shutout game, not a great football game on a
Speaker 1: Thursday night, and we took more calls tonight than in
Speaker 1: any post game in recently. Think we primed it with
Speaker 1: the pre show. We're talking about grown ups, and then
Speaker 1: you know, we just carried that momentum right through the
Speaker 1: game and now we're here in the postgame and nothing
Speaker 1: premise has to be a big deal. But the fact
Speaker 1: that these guys are all reuniting because a guy who
Speaker 1: coached them when they were ten years old for a
Speaker 1: summer camp basketball team has just, you know, fords, this
Speaker 1: bond between these guys, yeah, Styler alert and they all
Speaker 1: come back to other friends like, hey, Deuce, who what
Speaker 1: was the name of your basketball coach at summer camp
Speaker 1: when you were ten years old? Mister san Sony, Oh
Speaker 1: shut up, that's not a true thing. Seventh grade cyo,
Speaker 1: not seventh gradest, not ten years old. I didn't go
Speaker 1: to camp. Well, I was thirteen. But see why if
Speaker 1: he died, would you go would you go visit Christian organization? Yeah? No? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was my religion not good enough for you? I had
Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls club? Huh? I was a flag
Speaker 1: football champish right here, that's right, the Auburn Heights Boys
Speaker 1: and Girls Club before they got all Schmancy went to
Speaker 1: Auburn Hills. They changed the name of the town. They
Speaker 1: changed the town for the when they put the palace in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. It was Auburn Heights. Oh wow, there you go.
Speaker 1: Can we be done? We got ten minutes? Okay to
Speaker 1: eleven minutes? All right, So Patriots, I would like to say,
Speaker 1: so football, I would like to see a Harris and
Speaker 1: Stevenson in the formation at the same time. It's been
Speaker 1: a while since they ran that formation with the running backs.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts dual running back thoughts from David? What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts? I kind of like the way Yacob Johnson
Speaker 1: was blocking tonight the yak with his Crimson Tide colored
Speaker 1: hair he was blocking. Well, yeah, there's always infatuation with
Speaker 1: the two running back sets with you know, red, Rex
Speaker 1: and White was one and stop it right there. You
Speaker 1: could say there's always an infatuation with yeah, whatever they're
Speaker 1: not doing. Yeah, there's always jo infatuation with whatever they're
Speaker 1: not doing currently. Yeah, yeah, but what if it's been great?
Speaker 1: But what if they did what if they got John W.
Speaker 1: Smith like Hudre Henry has seven touchdowns? Yeah, like what
Speaker 1: if we had Jonah Smith, like, you'd have another guy
Speaker 1: like I'm glad you brought up Yacob Johnson. Um, he
Speaker 1: was good tonight the valarious they kept profiling him, Yes,
Speaker 1: and Troy was talking about about some of the blocks
Speaker 1: he was making at the point of attack. Fullback talk,
Speaker 1: let's go. Uh. Valerians starts off by saying, thank you.
Speaker 1: You convinced me to get a Thorogin mini from my
Speaker 1: parents for Christmas. That would make a good gift. It is,
Speaker 1: it's it's quality and yeah. Um. But as for the game,
Speaker 1: I'd say that Yakub Johnson was sneaky good. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was blowing up defenders all game. Commentators at least were
Speaker 1: gushing over his blocking as you just said, and I'd
Speaker 1: have to agree with him. Definitely worth consideration for the
Speaker 1: Good List. Should we put him on a late ad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: late ad? Everybody hug a cop. Yeah, I said it.
Speaker 1: I got him with the one. What about Jacobean? I
Speaker 1: thought Jakobe had a pretty good game too. He can
Speaker 1: tease you know, It's it's not a lot of volume
Speaker 1: like it was kind of early, but but I think
Speaker 1: he continues to come up with with some key plays. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think you might have had that first down,
Speaker 1: but you know, it just it goes back to the
Speaker 1: other caller too, of like, you know, do you really
Speaker 1: want somebody to obviously keeling? Like does that? Does that
Speaker 1: make your offense good? I feel like, well, I think
Speaker 1: it makes everybody else better when you have that guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying I don't want that guy, but
Speaker 1: if you got somebody pulling coverage and pulling yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, it marked
Speaker 1: it real good Born And what was up with Born
Speaker 1: going down? Like, I just gotta bring that up when
Speaker 1: last time since where I like there were two times
Speaker 1: he could have easily gone one more yard it just
Speaker 1: picked up the first down and didn't. I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's just I love the guy. I love what he's
Speaker 1: been doing, but I just I hate those little plays
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, one of the times that he
Speaker 1: may have taken him out of bounds and he was
Speaker 1: trying to stay in bounds. But as uh Paul pointed out,
Speaker 1: and actually I think Aikman pointed out pretty quickly too,
Speaker 1: actually You know what, even if you got to bounds,
Speaker 1: but you pick up the first down as you're going out,
Speaker 1: you accomplished the same thing. You win the game. And
Speaker 1: they ended up not getting the first down. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: then they didn't get the first down on third down.
Speaker 1: So it's um, Now it didn't matter because it was
Speaker 1: sixteen to nothing at the time, so the game was
Speaker 1: over anyway. But very nitpicky. Yeah, um, how many? Unfortunately
Speaker 1: the score has happened ten times in the past. The
Speaker 1: twenty five to nothing, we knew that, But Eric wants
Speaker 1: to know how many times has a backup quarterback come
Speaker 1: out thrown a pick and then on the next play
Speaker 1: the third string guy comes in? And what's that? It
Speaker 1: hasn't happened since two thousand with three different quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the same team threw a pick in the same game,
Speaker 1: but on consecutive plays pick and then the next guy
Speaker 1: comes out. That's another whole level of it. Well, I
Speaker 1: get into it. I'm not sure you got your typewriter,
Speaker 1: television true research. This just this juncture. You have to
Speaker 1: use the Google machine. Let's go uh to West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Tim says, it's time to go home. God, I wish
Speaker 1: that were true, Tim, Tim, what do you know that
Speaker 1: we don't. No, you guys just spent way too much time.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about grown ups too. Make sure you're alert
Speaker 1: for your drive home. Thank god, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1: Wow that's good hit and run. I like that. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: funds are worried about us. Yeah, well Paul's just walking
Speaker 1: walking around the corner to the hotel. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: Paul's got the shortest drive to for once tonight, I'm
Speaker 1: staying on campus Andrew in Hawaii, Hello Andrew. Hey, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: how are we doing very good than exhausted. I'll be
Speaker 1: quick here so you guys can get out of there
Speaker 1: and head home. But I gotta call Paul out real quick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the show. During the week,
Speaker 1: Peu and I heard Paul make the comment that JC
Speaker 1: Jackson's kind of just another cornerback. I did not say that, Paul.
Speaker 1: You made the statement that we can find a J. C. Jackson.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't. But I didn't say he's a
Speaker 1: jack interception through fifty six games, he's allowed two catches
Speaker 1: over the last three games. To me, we gotta resign
Speaker 1: this guy. He doesn't grow on tre so okay, let
Speaker 1: let me make you could deal with you then if
Speaker 1: they don't resign him, I want you to call up
Speaker 1: and rip Bill Belichick. Can you do that? That's not true?
Speaker 1: But I think there's a middle ground where you got
Speaker 1: to admit jac Jackson is a number one cornerback and
Speaker 1: somebody we shouldn't just let walk. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: number one cornerback. I don't. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's number one cornerback. The number is kind of back
Speaker 1: up that tap though. He's locked down opponent's number one
Speaker 1: receivers and he's made Please who do you lock down tonight?
Speaker 1: Who was the number one receiver he locked down tonight? Yes?
Speaker 1: I mean against the Falcons. You can't really say that,
Speaker 1: but you got to feel good about J. C. Jackson
Speaker 1: and his matchup going into every game and without him, really,
Speaker 1: at that point, who do we have? So to me? Oh,
Speaker 1: but those are different arguments. I just want I want
Speaker 1: to see. I'm gonna stay my my point up front,
Speaker 1: but if I don't wait for it to happen before
Speaker 1: I stay my point, I want you to tell me
Speaker 1: that you will call up and rip Bill Belichick if
Speaker 1: he doesn't resign him, I will rip him if they
Speaker 1: let him walk at a reasonable price. Obviously, I know
Speaker 1: Bill's not going to overpay for a guy, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna okay, So I want also up front, I
Speaker 1: want to know what overpay is. What is overpaying him
Speaker 1: if he's a number one corner, If he's a number
Speaker 1: one corner, like you say, that's twenty million a year, yeah,
Speaker 1: eight twenty million. They got twenty four million cap space
Speaker 1: next year right now. So if you if you say
Speaker 1: that he is a number one corner and Bill doesn't
Speaker 1: sign him to a deal and someone else gives him
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty million, I want you to call up
Speaker 1: and rip him. I want you to admit that the
Speaker 1: Patriots can't sign it other JC Jackson easily in the
Speaker 1: draft like you made it sound like. Especially you know,
Speaker 1: given the Patriots history trying to draft cornerbacks, we can't
Speaker 1: just let this guy. I'm not telling you that the
Speaker 1: Patriots will be able to do it. I'm saying there
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys like jac Jackson in the league.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I don't know if the Patriots
Speaker 1: are going to be able to get one. I never
Speaker 1: said that I think he's a good player. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a great player. That's all, ok, all right, Andrew, thanks,
Speaker 1: I love you too. That was a good argument. That
Speaker 1: was that was fun. That was that was everybody was
Speaker 1: on their good behavior, and that was not too tired
Speaker 1: to really get into it with my heart. But he
Speaker 1: still has he still has the six shooter though he's
Speaker 1: still even though he's a little tired, he can still
Speaker 1: pull it. But I'll say this that those are my
Speaker 1: two things. When Bill doesn't do it, I want you
Speaker 1: to rip him. And when the Patriots beat Buffalo, I
Speaker 1: want you to say it was a nothing win because
Speaker 1: Buffalo sucks. This this is a preview of every show
Speaker 1: in early February right here. This is what we're This
Speaker 1: is exactly what's going to be happening on your show too.
Speaker 1: Buffalo sucks. Everybody tells me. Bill Simmons has told me
Speaker 1: for a week that the Bills stink. So when the
Speaker 1: Patriots beat them, I don't want to hear people peacock
Speaker 1: about the Patriots and how great that win is because
Speaker 1: the Bills stink. Okay, that's what you tell me. I
Speaker 1: know I over here will tell you if the Patriots
Speaker 1: beat Buffalo. I will be very impressed if they go
Speaker 1: out and beat Buffalo, because I think Buffalo is a
Speaker 1: pretty good team. All right, but you you are not
Speaker 1: allowed to do that, you hardy. I don't know how
Speaker 1: this turned into me getting yelled at. I'm so tired. No,
Speaker 1: if you not heard that in all, seriously, put my
Speaker 1: snark away for a second. Have you not heard that
Speaker 1: a lot the last couple of weeks. Well, I've and
Speaker 1: quite frankly, when you lose to Jacksonville nine to six,
Speaker 1: I start to question how good you are too. Okay,
Speaker 1: so then let's not give the Patriots much credit for
Speaker 1: beating a team they should beat. Then well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. I don't want to give him credit.
Speaker 1: I will, okay, I will give them credit because I
Speaker 1: think Buffalo is good. Okay, I think that had a
Speaker 1: terrible game. Okay, like the Patriots had a terrible game
Speaker 1: against Miami. Um, these things happen. Would your franchise jac
Speaker 1: Jackson and we've talked about it, I would not, deuce,
Speaker 1: I would not. Okay, Yeah, if I could get him
Speaker 1: to sign a deal that I'd be interested in that.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't I wouldn't hate franchising him. I think
Speaker 1: he's gone, oh one more year if they can't figure
Speaker 1: anything else out. I could, I could see that. But again,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I know these numbers are rough,
Speaker 1: but twenty four million, that's what they got in caspiece
Speaker 1: right now. They can mess with it. But you know,
Speaker 1: just a general kind of overview. Yeah, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of wiggle room next year. So is that counting
Speaker 1: like all of the pending free agents being off the books? Yes? Correct,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's relative if you're taking off everybody.
Speaker 1: But still, I mean it's just it's not oh hey,
Speaker 1: we'll look, we got sixty million or like whatever it
Speaker 1: was last year where I don't care about you knew
Speaker 1: things were going to happen. Cap space is irrelevant. As
Speaker 1: you know, Hardy, this isn't the NHL that actually has
Speaker 1: a cap cap his crap. That's one thing I do
Speaker 1: agree with me. Yes, wow, oh yeah, I didn't see
Speaker 1: that coming. No camp at this too late. I thought
Speaker 1: that was going to be a late fight right there.
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Speaker 1: we start considering him a bust? I mean, he's better
Speaker 1: than that's a cost? Sorry, Deuce, Well, yeah, but he
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