WEBVTT - Patriots Postgame Show 11/18: Takeaways from Shutout Win over Falcons, Kyle Dugger Interview 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.720 This is the Patriots Postgame Show presented by cyber Reason. 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:07.960 Rady under Center and get the brick at runs and 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:13.360 left for the land touchdown Patriots. The Patriots Postgame Show 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.840 presented by cyber Reason with Hardy, Mike Deso, and Paul 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.880 Perillo is your source for all the news and information 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.279 following every Patriots game and a Patriots have won their 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.880 sixth Super Bowl title. In early two thousands, they won 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.080 three or four. Now they have won three of the 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.080 last five. 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Your final tonight, I mean, has 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.360 ever been has ever been a twenty five to nothing 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:18.800 game before. That's what I want to know. It's a 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.039 random score, that's a good one. There's a couple of 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.600 interesting little things just popping up here. Well, we're gonna 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.679 be ninety nine percent Patriots tonight, but just one Falcons 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.720 note from Albert Freer. Eleven days ago, the Falcons got 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.440 to five hundred. Since then, they have been outscored sixty 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:39.399 eight to three. That is a sobering moment for Falcons fans. Yeah. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.880 I mean it's a bad team, and you saw why tonight. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.920 You know, they did a lot of things to beat themselves. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.240 And I'll tell you what, there are a lot of 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.720 things to be said about the way the Patriots played tonight, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.240 mostly defensively, but there's a lot to look at two 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.800 with the overall performance from the team. So we're going 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.640 to get right into it with you. We invite you 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.480 to join us eight five five Pats five hundred, Email 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.960 the show radio at Patriots dot com. Hardy, Mike Di So, 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.040 Paul Perillo. I will start with your opening thoughts on 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.880 the game, please, Paul, if you would, opening thoughts were, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.760 it's pretty much the kind of game that a lot 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.160 of us talked about it's it's tough to play these 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.320 Thursday night games, especially on the road. I think as 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.160 you get later in the season, as we are now, 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.280 it becomes even more difficult. You saw a lot of 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.359 bad football tonight on both sides, but mostly on Atlantic side. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.120 And the thing that I come away with, you know, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.639 from the Patriots perspective, five in a row now still 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.040 undefeated on the road, is that old thing that they 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.480 always could rely on of waiting around for the other 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.800 team to do something stupid is back in play. I 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.440 think that they've done that consistently now for a month, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.880 and you know, when they've needed plays, they've been able 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.720 to get them, whether you know Mike all four picks 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.840 tonight in the fourth quarter. You know. Um, so just 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.200 just that, like I don't care how it had to 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.119 happen tonight, you had to come away with a win. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.600 Patriots were never in trouble in this game, even though 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.840 they didn't play particularly well. Um. You know, on offense, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.119 the defense continues to dominate, and do you just keep 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.359 checking them off and moving on to the next one. Yep, Yeah, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.320 I thought the offense did enough. You know. I think 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.160 there were some nice runs from Harris and Stevenson. Um, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.160 you know, just not the same success they had on 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.360 third down last week. That was, you know, more of 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.760 a grind on third down, and you know, not definitely 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.440 not Mac's best game through the air of the season. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.640 But as usual, I think he did enough, and you know, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.000 overcame kind of the mistakes and and and when he 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.280 did make you know, the one interception or you know, 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.840 when they had to pun a few times, the defense 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.160 was able to step up and get off the field, 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.480 and you know, the defense, I mean, you know, I 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.120 don't want to brag, but I got all I got 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.520 all my picks, right, I mean, it's just kind of 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.280 kind of how I thought the game might go. Where 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.000 offense a little bit of a grind and and defensively 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.160 they stepped up and you know, just didn't allow any 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.360 of the nonsense to to trickle over up onto the scoreboard. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.280 So some nice games. Kyle Van Nooy thoughts showing up 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.280 a lot. Uh you know again, Jude on Barmore, those guys, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.240 you know, continue to do it. Not not over all 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.320 the best game, but it doesn't really matter. It's a 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.000 Thursday night game. You got the win. Doesn't look like 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:16.720 anybody got hurt. You got a little bit of an 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.120 extended break, and you know, now you're looking at this 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.200 four game stretcher, or really, if you just want to 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.960 digest the first two games of you know, Tennessee here 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.680 and then Buffalo at Buffalo on Monday night football, So 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.800 two big games coming up. They got a little bit 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.520 of time to regroup and you know, if they're healthy, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.520 they got out of this one. I think it's uh, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.160 it's it's another nice win and you know, congratulations five straight. Uh, 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.960 it's impressive. Anyway you kind of cut it up. I 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.800 think it says a lot about Mike Gusse and that 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.440 in his opening thoughts he mentions that he got all 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.120 of his picks right now. It's the first time ever. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.680 I mean he immediately makes it about himself, which is yeah, 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.560 a little that's right, uncomfortable, I mean yeah, yeah, especially 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.360 when you know it was six yards away from me 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:02.039 being six right, right, and what's the difference? Right? Five 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.040 and one? That's right? Wow, Wow, wester Henry had twenty 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.400 five yards and we needed him to have thirty one. Uh. Yeah, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.440 I had a bad week on the over under three 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.480 and three. I thought it was two and four. Oh no, yeah, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.080 you were two and four. Yeah, see, Morrel, you really wait, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.800 you know, maybe match should be checking your your totals there. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.560 We're gonna get to the good the bad in the 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.800 training room here. But I mean I would echo everything 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.159 that you guys just said and seemed like it was 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.479 and not quite a case of just waiting out the 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:36.279 other team's mistakes because Atlanta made so many of them. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.520 Oftentimes they didn't have to wait. You know, sometimes the 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.640 mistakes were presented, you know, earlier than other times that 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.440 when when they had the ball or when they were 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.880 on defense. So it was it was I think, in 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.480 many ways a typical Thursday night game. Not earlier this 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.960 season we saw some good Thursday Night contests from the NFL. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.320 But you get, you know, teams ten weeks into the 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.159 season now they're starting to get banged up, they're starting 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.400 to you know, the the just the length of the 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.640 season is starting to wear on them. At this point. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.760 You bring them off of just a couple of days rest, 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.920 not a lot of time to put a game planned in, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.240 and you get you get a game like that tonight. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.719 But for Patriots fans, it's fantastic. It's a shutout on 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.720 the road. It puts your team at seven and four 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.440 in this season, a fifth straight win for the Patriots. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.640 So a lot to celebrate in the actual result. Uh 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.120 and and I think a lot to celebrate defensively. Um. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.000 You know. As for the rest of it, let's let's 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.440 get to it now. Yeah, we'll get to it now 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:42.440 with the good, the bad and the training room presented 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.560 by theragun. It's time for the good. Pretty good, Papa, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.520 pretty good the bad. If you were in my toilet ball, 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.840 I wouldn't bother flushing. And the training room you you 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:58.000 want a backrupt presented by theagun. Good the bad in 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.840 the training room presented by a thera gun. And might 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.640 I just had the third gun Mini, which is delightful. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.440 More on that in a moment. But we'll start with 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.760 the goods. We'll start with you, Paul. What's your first 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.560 good tonight? My first good tonight is Kyle Dugger, who 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.320 I thought Phantom may have had his best game as 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.840 a Patriot. I thought he was really active in this game, 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:21.000 really physical, terrific past defense. On the first third down 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.960 of the game on Kyle Pitts, you know, on a 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.720 slant route that it looked like he had a step 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.800 and Matt Ryan's throws a little behind him, and Dugger 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.840 made a great, great play after that, a couple of 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.760 really nice tackles in the open field one on one note, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.080 not really any yards after the catch available for the Falcons. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.520 I don't know what you know. I can look up 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.360 the specific numbers that he finished with here. Yeah, six 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.920 tackles in a past defense and also a special team's tackle. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.240 So nothing you know that's going to jump off the 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.360 page at you. But I thought he was really good tonight, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.080 especially in the first half. Yeah, physical pass break up 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.400 there that in that first third down. It seems like 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.000 he's kind of come into his own. I think he's 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.680 he's getting more comfortable in the defense and you know, 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.960 just making plays. I've always liked his physicality, but he 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.320 just seems now he's getting in the right place. Excellent, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.320 all right, Dougger. First up, who you have on your 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.320 I'm gonna kind of do co co guys call it 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.360 the two headed monster. I guess Stevenson and Harris just 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.080 the two guys um I thought they were. You know, 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.720 both had some big carries. Twenty one yards for hair 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.680 or sorry's twenty one yards for Stevenson, Harris seventeen. Those 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.840 both game in the first half, but you know, not 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.920 a lot going in the passing game today. It was 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:30.760 you know, especially as I mentioned on third down, but 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.320 I thought those two guys kind of provided the spark 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.000 and you know, at the end we're able to pick 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.960 up some key yards. It definitely wasn't the juggernaut machine 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.079 that we saw last week, where you know, they were 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.320 just every third down was money. They were able to 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.600 just run down, get touchdown, touchdown. I mean, they got 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.960 held up in the red zone. But I thought that 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.160 those two guys really um you know, carry carry kind 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.160 of the load on the day and picked up some 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.360 hard yards. Again, very encouraged by what you see from Stevenson, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.840 but you know, Stevenson five point eight yards average, Harris 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.720 five point six. Stevenson had twelve carries, Harris had ten. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.600 So it was a nice balanced effort from those two guys. 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.640 And I think as we get into this cold weather, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.680 that's what you want. You want two guys that you 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.040 can rely on that you know, they're similar, but I 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.200 think they're a little bit different. Harris might be you 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.360 know a little faster in the open field than you know, 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.880 Stevenson just a load to bring down and seems to 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.319 always pick up yards after contact. So it's a nice 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.240 little balance they got from those running backs, and I 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.600 hope that they can continue that because it's you know, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.599 huge in a game like this where you know you 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.560 don't really have everything clicking quite right, and those guys 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.080 were able to get it going. Yeah, offensively, it might 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.800 be a little light tonight on the good list, but 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.959 those two guys definitely belong at the top. Took two, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.200 you know, no, no, no, no, I think I was. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.800 I was thinking about doing the same thing because you know, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.840 Paul had pointed out at one point in the game. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:49.520 I think, uh, I think Stevenson had two fewer carries, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.679 but both Stevenson and Harris were sitting at fifty six 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.920 yards at one point. It was a great tandem attack 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.360 using those two guys tonight. Um, I'll go back to 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.760 the other side of the ball. Defensively, thought Kyle van 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.640 Noy had a really good game tonight. I mean the 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.080 interception at the end, which was, you know, a nice 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.240 moment that was fun. But uh, he was very active, right, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.560 I think he two sacks, two tackles, two QB hits 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.560 and obviously a touchdown. I mean it led the team 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.839 with eight total tackles, and and I just we get 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.560 too lost in all of that. That's all the same, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.760 the two sacks, tackles, Philoss and quarterback hits, because that's 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.360 there's not right. But he had a really good game 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.080 to He had a really good game, especially for a 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.600 guy who we pointed out at at points earlier in 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:39.280 this season was just largely was not worthy, not worthy 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.840 of mention, and certainly not nothing extraordinary. H there was 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.480 some extraordinary plays that he was responsible for tonight. And 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:51.000 sure the game was over at that point, but I 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.079 don't know why they kept Atlanta kept throwing the ball 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.720 and throwing quarterbacks in there to go out there and 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.120 try and make something happen. Paul pointed out something I 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.439 thought was pretty good. It's like, well, I wonder why 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.839 the starters are still playing for the Patriots defense at 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.040 that point. But well, I was a little annoyed. Well 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.640 we'll get to that in the bad but I was 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.200 a little annoyed that Mac Jones took, out my mind, 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.839 a very unnecessary hit on a quarterback sneak that I 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.120 don't really feel like they needed to be doing. But 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.760 you know hopefully he didn't get dinged up on that 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.240 at all. But we have Stevenson and Harris, we have 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.800 Kyle Dugger, which was first up on Paul's list, we 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.720 have Kyle Vanoy. Who else you got, Paul, I'm gonna 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.240 go to Christian Barmore, who I thought, again especially early 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.080 in the game, was just completely collapsing the pocket all 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.839 over the place. Again nut stats that are gonna jump 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.079 off the page at you. But I thought he affected 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.480 Matt Ryan on a couple of throws that were there, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.440 that they had some some opportunities to make plays and 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.040 he had to get rid of the ball before he 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.400 before he wanted to. There was that one that he 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.760 kind of slid to the left and then you saw 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.200 the replay that Troy Aikman pointed out later and the 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:04.760 patriot Its defenders had collided and left pits. Basically that 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.320 might have been a touchdown let a lot. I mean, 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.160 it would have been a big play at the very minimum, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.120 but you know, the constant pressure into the collapsing of 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.600 the pocket on the inside by Barmore prevented it. Uh. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.120 We got Barmore or Oilse he got their deuce. I 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.640 got Adrian Phillips fourth you know, fourth down, stop got 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.200 back there. I think that was you know, I think 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.160 I had some good plays in the red zone there, 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.960 and that was a big one on the fourth down 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.439 when it felt like, you know, Atlanta was making a 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:29.800 little bit of a push. It was still I think 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.679 just thirteen nothing at that point. Yeah, that was a 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.040 huge play. So big play. Had the interception obviously as well. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.520 You know, he just continues to I think he's more 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.720 complimented this year. Last year it felt like he was 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.360 doing a lot and he had to do a lot, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.560 and this year it feels like he can kind of 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.160 focus on some specific things and he's not quite stretched 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.560 so thin. So I really like what they're doing. And 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.440 I think part of that is attributed to Dugger, to mccordy, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.000 who also had an interception. I think those safeties are 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.680 really starting to play well together. We saw for many 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.640 years three safeties. You know, we're able to really solidify 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.439 the back end of the defense, and I think that's 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.800 what we're seeing now with the development at Dugger, with 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.520 Phillips and of course mccordy on the back end. Well, 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:10.960 I held off as long as I can, but I 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.200 Nick Folk the missed extra point at the end was unfortunate, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.240 but otherwise, Um, in a game that was mostly field goals, 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.400 he kicked them all. So best offensive player of the 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.720 game again. I mean you needed to find ways to 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.240 get points on the board and your guy did it Hardy. Yeah, um, 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.920 because that's what he does. All the guy does is 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.480 kick field goals and make them four for four. He 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.880 had along of fifty three yards tonight, one for two 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.840 on the extra points. But Nick Folk certainly belongs on 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.320 the good list, sir. Who else he got? Paul? Uh? 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.160 Did Deuce? Did you mention? I know when you would 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.400 talking about Adrian Phillips, you mentioned some other guys, But 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.600 I thought Devin mccordy was really good in this game too. Um. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.400 There was a past defense that he made early in 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.200 this game that was a play and Hardy, I think 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.880 you said what we were watching maybe a month ago. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.439 He was a step late on that play against Houston 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.880 as an example, month month and a half ago maybe now. Um, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.000 he was the you know, the the center fielder over 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.880 the top. He's providing the the you know, the help 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.080 and they needed it and he came over and got 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.640 in the way. I think it was it was Zakiss 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.360 that was the intended or maybe sharp I'm not sure, 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.840 but the play was there. It was an open play 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.240 for the Falcons, would have been a big play. Uh, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:27.880 And he came over and got there. And then I 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:32.360 thought the interception, you know, clearly there was you know, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.880 Pitts got tangled up and you know it was a 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.360 little another good play by Dugger by the way, with 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.320 a good jam at the line of scrimmage. But that 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.560 should have just been an incomplete pass. But I thought 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.520 McCardy made a great play to get over there, a 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.400 sliding catch towards the sideline, and that that towards that 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.920 drive too. So I thought he was really good tonight 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.040 as well. Excellent Devin McCarney, a good game for him. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.040 What what do you think do Yeah, I think I 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.520 mostly covered. I mean, I just I wanted to mention 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.600 Nelson Agalore I that touchdown, But I mean I have 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.920 a good catches. It's okay, I just on five catches, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.040 five targets. Yeah, it's it's I mean, he was active. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.000 I think that's just what I'm encouraged about is seeing 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.680 him show up. The touchdown was it was a great 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.600 throw from mac um you know, he's wide open, so 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.560 I guess it kind of kind of kind of easy 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.720 to hit that one. But um, there was maybe one 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.640 throw tonight that I thought was that that that throw 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.640 to Henry. Yeah, that that one was the only one. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.600 It was. He was fairly covered. Everything else was like 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.440 like just like pitch, hitch and catch. Yeah. Yeah. But 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.480 but nice game from Aglare. Just to see him get 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.200 involved and you know, he continues to spread the ball around. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.560 I think that's what's you know, it's I think sometimes 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.160 maybe rookies, you see guys get locked in on certain players, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.120 and you know, Mac doesn't seem to do that. He 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.720 seems to consistently, uh spread it around and find guys, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.680 and I like that about him. So it was just 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.600 good to see, you know, Aglare get involved, get a 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.320 touchdown and have five catches. I had Aggalore written down 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.360 early and then a couple of question marks. I'm like, yeah, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.240 is he really gonna stay on the list. He deserves 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.360 to be on the list. Yeah. I think Matthew Judean 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.120 is another guy who I always put I had jude 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.120 on my list. Yeah, you can put him on there. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.920 Every you know, seemingly every game I think, you know, 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.280 his real value tonight not only was getting into the backfield. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.880 And he doesn't have like a ton of numbers in 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.640 terms of tackles or anything like that, but you know 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.440 he's drawing coverage and he's you know, he's requiring it, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.160 you know, help to keep him from getting back there. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.240 And he was, he's a bother and if you know, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.760 if you need to bother, if you need to pull 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.840 somebody over to help block him, because I love it, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.840 that just opens up, you know, laying for somebody else, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.080 whether it's Kyle van Oy or someone else in there, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.480 to make a place so that you know what what 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.000 he's doing out there. It's yeah, it's it's not always 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.760 going to get the praise and the accolades, but he 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.920 is a problem interposing offense. And that's the thing with like, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.680 you know, Paul talking about Barmore too. It's like how 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.800 many times last year we talked about the Patriots just 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.880 don't have anybody on defense that you really have to 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.880 worry about or think about or block. You know, it's 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.040 just I don't know what. We'll go out and we'll line. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.920 I mean, now they had a couple of guys stunts, 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:57.920 you know, they had to do it with games. Now 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.880 they have two guys that basically say you're gonna block me, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.280 I'm gonna beat you, right Judan and Barmore. YEP, that's 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.080 a nice thing to have. Any other goods to get 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.640 to Paul Um, you know, we talked a lot about 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.240 the defense in general and all the plays, and you know, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.520 Mike talked about the Adrian Phillis play. I wanted to 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.640 give Carl Davis a little kind on that as well, 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.600 just the overall defense with the four takeaways and two 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.960 for eleven on third down, continuing that stuff. But the 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.639 last thing that I had was Jake Bailey tonight I 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:31.080 thought was back to his normal self of you know, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:36.200 on those plus fifty opportunities or you know, first three 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.080 punts he had inside the twenty, the first one was 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.320 huge down to the I think it was a four 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.199 yard line. So Jake Bailey was kind of back to 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.880 his normal self tonight. All right, good, all right, let's 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.680 get onto the bad list here, Deuce, if you want 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.680 to lead us off, and again, this is a this 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:59.119 is a short week shutout on the road, so and 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.359 some of the are going to be I don't have 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.760 much nitpicky. Yeah, or they're all gonna be nitpicky. But 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.480 there were a couple of guys who did not have 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.000 great games to night. I'm sure I think that holding 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.359 penalty on John u Um, you know gets them on 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:12.719 the list for me, just that you know, it took 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.240 away a gain and I don't know how necessary it was. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.800 It just seemed like, you know, it wasn't quite the 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.640 kind of play where all we had to hold him 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.040 so he had We had one game, one nice little run, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.040 so that was okay. But I just, you know, I 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.520 continue to be a little bit disappointed by the production. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.560 And I mean, even if he wasn't hurting the team, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.960 it may be what it was, but the penalty on 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.240 a night like this Atlanta there, Yeah, you think, Paul, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.800 I'm gonna start off the very first drive of the game, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.399 it's uh. I think they got a first down and 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.720 they got a third and four around midfield and we 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.119 got a shotgun run to Brandon Bolden and I'm like, 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.000 what are we doing? Like why, you know, why are 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.639 we just content to punt the ball here? Um? So 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.800 I really didn't like that call. I thought that was 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.960 sort of getting off to a shaky start. In a 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.959 game where I thought it was imperative to get off 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.040 to a really good start and put the game away, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.600 and you know, ultimately, they never really put the game 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:17.280 away until you know, the interception parade in the fourth 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:22.240 course two score game, you know, nothing, and the Falcons 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.960 had the ball at the fifteen yard line. Yeah, so 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.240 I just thought that the approach early on on that 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.960 that particular call was surprising. Yeah. Um, you know you 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.280 just mentioned Brandon Bolden for his effective and his active 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:37.760 as he's been. I thought he had kind of a 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.440 quiet night. Yeah, he did nothing tonight, but he doesn't 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.800 belong on the bad list, but just you know, kind 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.679 of a I don't want to chalk everything up to 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.720 short week Thursday night football, but there were a lot 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:55.120 of Thursday night football, I think, not just performances individually, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:20:01.000 but decisions and kind of overall feeling a the game tonight. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.359 And if that reflects poorly on certain players more than others, 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.760 maybe that's unfair. But you know, we're trying to present 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.680 both sides here. But I thought Bolden was pretty quiet tonight. Yeah, 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.399 and I'll give Atlanta credit for playing hard on defense. Um, 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.280 it looked like they were overmatched at times like guys 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.360 were wide open in their zones. But they did enough 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.200 for you know, the entire game really to keep their 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.280 team in the game. Yeah, Um, any other bands do 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.240 you want to play? I just I thought the past 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.840 protection was a little spotty in places. He took some hits. 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.159 He took a few sacks that, um, you know that 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.320 haven't haven't been happening in the last few weeks. And 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.120 again a couple of runaway rushers tonight that we haven't seen. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.119 I think Mike is right. Something you can chalk up 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.520 though too. These guys just fought a war four days 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.760 ago and they're back at it tonight. So a little 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.240 bit of a but I, you know, I still wanted 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.760 to see more. I was so impressed with Trent Brown 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.119 last week and I thought he was fine, but I didn't, 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.720 you know, see the same kind of level um consistently. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.520 But it is what it is. They did what they 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.120 had to do. But Mac was a little bit under 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.400 durest tonight. The play where the safety came in from 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:07.000 like thirty yards was that it was harmon on that play. Yeah, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.000 do you do you chuck that up to pass protection? 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.400 Or this just well they complete He's so far away, 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.439 right and that because you know, and and Mike is right, 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.160 they completed the play, but I don't want completing plays 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.080 like that. The quarterback turned when he threw it, and 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.600 the receiver wasn't looking and had to reach down and 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.440 bobble it. Like yeah, it works, but that's not the 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.520 way you want to be doing it. And by the way, 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.960 four for twelve tonight on third down. You know, we 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.040 made a lot of how great they were on third 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.760 down last week, um, and you know, for as well 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.680 as they ran the ball, you probably don't want to 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.200 be going four for twelve on third down because you 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.000 would think you would have much more makeable third down 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.200 attempts and they didn't. You take away the picks at 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.720 the end, and especially the pick six, and you just 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.119 look at, you know, half of the box score. You 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.320 just look at the Patriots. It does not look like 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.040 a win, you know. And three, I mean three hundred 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:03.920 yards four for twelve, Um, you've only scored one touchdown, 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.520 but you know, the defense was dominant. I have one 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:14.520 more good in line with the coaching thing. Dud talked 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.919 about the penalties, so I'll sort of let those go. 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.720 A couple of special teams penalties again tonight probably should 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.679 have been another one um clock management at the end 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.359 of the first half. And I don't put this on 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.240 Mac Jones. I put this on the coaches. I don't 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.639 really understand what they were doing there. They had a 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.639 chance to I think there was about twenty seconds to 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.120 go in the half, they had another time out, they 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.719 were about a yard short on a pass across the middle, 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.440 and they did nothing. They didn't run to the line 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.840 to run a play, they didn't rush to call a 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.399 time out. They took their time. The clock ticked all 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.000 the way down to five seconds, and then they ultimately 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.359 couldn't run a fourth down play because even if they 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.040 got it, they wouldn't have had time to do anything else. 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.239 And why risk not getting the first down and then 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:03.159 lose the field goal if you do that. So I 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.240 just thought the clock management there. Mac was upset with himself, 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:07.560 but I don't think that was all on Mac. I 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.800 think someone should have been telling him we need to 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.760 call a time out or you need to get up 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.320 and run a play. And it was a similar kind 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.200 of a scenario that unfolded in the preseason. I think 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.840 it was the Philadelphia game. I'm not positive if I 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.840 remember that correctly, But same kind of thing. They had 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.680 a two minute drill at the end, and they ultimately 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.560 had to punt because of a fourth pound play like 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.719 that that wasn't quite in field goal range, and they 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.840 let too much time go off the clock, you know, 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.760 which nitpicking in preseason, you can kind of understand it. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:40.760 But they worked on two minutes so much in camp 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.040 and then presumably still do so, Yeah, you'd like to 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.800 see that a little cleaner. Yeah, a little better execution there, 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:48.600 and they got the field goal and that's probably all 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.399 they were going to get on that drive anyway. But 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.680 I thought they cost themselves two plays. It shouldn't it 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.200 shouldn't look as hectic when you're just trying to get 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.080 yourself into a field goal position there and managed and 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.160 it was close, like there was a pass across the middle. 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.600 I think it was Agalore. It was either Agalore or 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.760 born Um. And I and I wonder if maybe they 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.879 thought there was going to be a measurement, yeah, or 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.640 as as your boy Zoe would say, amasurement, measurement um. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.840 I wonder if they were looking for the clock stop that, 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.720 you know, an artificial clock stoppage. But you can't rely 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:23.200 on that. In the last I don't think the rests 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.280 want to be stopping the clock in a situation like 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.639 that unless they have to. Um who is headed to 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.360 the training room for the for the Patriots? I think 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.119 just Mills Mill J C. Jackson both left the game, 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.440 but they both returned, So I don't think you know, Mike, 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.359 you said that off your top and your comments, it 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.000 looked like they got out of the healthy. I think 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.080 I think you're right. Well for all, for all we 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.640 know they had a little Theorra gun treatment. That's all 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.960 you need in game. I think it's I think it's 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.919 okay to have those over on the sideline. 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Yes, 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.080 Mike's a couple of things to share the kind of interest. 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:37.080 So there is a Twitter account score Agami, which is 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.160 they're always trying to figure out if there's a unique score. 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.720 So this was not a score of gammy. This score 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.600 has happened ten times before twenty five to nothing, the 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.879 most recent being September fifteenth, two thousand and two. And 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.680 then another little interesting tidbit coming from ESPN stats in Info, 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.080 the Falcons are the first team since two thousand and 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.600 nine Texans to have three players throw an interception in 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.080 the same game. That was job Rex Grossman and Chris Brown. 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.680 The last team before that to how three qbs was 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.720 the two thousand Chargers, Ryan Leaf, Jim Harbaugh and Moses Marino. 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.359 So it's just a fun fact. It's just a fun fact. 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.399 But it's spent almost twenty years since we had a 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.800 twenty five game, all right, that's just saying that that's 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.920 good and that's good to see. Bill has the puffy 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:22.920 jack for the post game, so cool. I bet that's expensive. Yeah, 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.320 it looks like one of those puffy jackets where you 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.000 could go get one at Old Navy for you know, 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:32.000 thirty nine thirty bucks maybe, and you could also spend 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.120 six hundred dollars on one. I'm guess they're not thinking 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.040 if you make eighteen million a year, you'll probably go 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.480 with the expensive one. Certainly is that on the same day, 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:45.439 best dressed then worst dressed. Certainly is everyone I'm going 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:51.480 to be wearing these shell I mean, the fact that 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.160 they continue to win on the road and the defense 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.919 continues to dominate is you know, I think those are 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.520 the two huge takeaways. Well said, Let's see what soon 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.680 everybody thinks on the phones here eight five five Pats 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.639 five hundred. So Johnny in Wisconsin, first up on the 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.560 Patriots post game show presented by Cyber Reason. Hi, Johnny, 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.000 how's it going boys, Johnny good good, good, Well, it's 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.800 a good win to night. I think it was, you know, 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.240 closer than any of us wanted it to be until 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.040 the you know, the like like you guys called it 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.720 the turnover brigade at the end there. But I saw 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.760 a crazy stat during the game there. I think it 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.280 was like one hundred and eighty nine and seventeen now 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.080 or something under a bill when we win the turnover battle. 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.720 So I just kind of wanted to get um, you know, 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.040 a bit of a bit of a taking you guys 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.960 on JC Jackson in particular with another nice catch that 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.879 are on the deflection. What is his value to you guys? 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.320 Really think um going forward potentially with the franchise tag 0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.640 or you know, an extension or you know, a new contract. 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.080 I should say, given how he really is kind of 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.000 a ballhawk and he does have a feel for you know, 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.240 getting that turnover when the turnover is crucial for the Patriots, 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.879 you know, winning the game bill. The first thing I 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.040 would say, Johnny is I mean, obviously coaches don't have 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.960 that many games under their belt, but the disparity in 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.119 the wins versus losses for any team is going to 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.119 be high if you win the turnover battle. It's one 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.600 of those things like third downs where you win that 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.119 you have, yeah, undefeated when they scored more points in 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:19.679 the opponent. The Patriots numbers in those situations or you know, 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.760 I mean it is one hundred and eighty something in 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.240 like seventeen. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But I would say 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.920 it's it's probably a very han their numbers when leading 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.439 at the half at Jillette Stadium under Belichick. It's like 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.439 you wouldn't think like just having a halftime lead is 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.360 I mean, I think that's five times in the Belichis 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.560 era while leading at the half, and that's different. But 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.920 but I think what is more, uh, you know, to 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.960 the point here is how often the Patriots win the 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.160 turnover battle. And that's I mean that that's what we 0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.560 talked about. It was Paul's key to the game. You know, 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.960 just protect the football. Yeah, and you know the pick 0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:01.760 that that Mac Jones threw all all all let Atlanta 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.920 right into the game, you know, if not for the 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.040 huge third and fourth downd stop. So I mean they're 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.240 at the fifteen yard line needing a blade of grass, 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.720 um and they come up short by you know, good 0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.440 good quality handoff to the fullback Andy Hart, good job, 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.320 good play call. And then you know Carl Davis and 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:24.120 Adrian Phillips combined combined to oh my god, to end 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.480 to end that drive, and that ended the game. I mean, ultimately, 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.320 I think the game was over on that fourth down 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:34.160 stop at thirteen nothing um. But those turnovers games like 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.160 the timing of them is is important. But you know, 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.720 you look at Brady last week against Washington, he throws 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.640 two picks in the first quarter. Now, was that was 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.840 the game lost at that point? No, but it kind 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.240 of tells you the direction the game is going to chase. Yeah, 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.680 it's it's it's no, it's no way to play. And 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.880 it's something that Belichick's teams have done four years, which 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.640 has been real good in the turnover disparity. And then 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.880 capitalize now and make sure if you're gonna win that 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.440 crucial part of the game, you don't end up losing 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:08.200 the game because you've you've you know, control the football better. 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.200 And that's that's kind of what they do. I mean, 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.239 And what can you say about Jase Jackson. He just 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.880 continues to find the ball. I mean, it's it's gonna 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.160 be ah, this is gonna be I think it's just 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.320 the ball find him somebody. Somehow they're connecting. I don't 0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:25.400 know who's finding who, but it's happened too consistently fortuitous 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.440 sure at times. But I and Paul, I know you 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.680 agree with this too. The athleticism that it requires to 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.240 actually you know, come down with those balls. You see 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:39.040 it a lot, and maybe not from corners, maybe not 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.240 from safeties, but you see guys you know, with the 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.720 ball that's you know, up for grabs and they don't 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.480 manage to come down with it. And yes, on other 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.160 guys on other teams, I guess that they had really 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.760 really good hands, they'd be receivers, you know, so you 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.000 don't always expect them to come up with these balls 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.880 that are a huge place. Yeah, they're wobbling around and yeah, 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.240 jac Jackson does he does place over and over and 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.600 over again. It keeps happening, and it's just it's going 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.720 to be a major question this offseason of how how 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.160 they figure out resigning the guys on defense. I mean, 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.480 certainly it's making it a lot harder in recent weeks 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.280 with the way these guys are playing, a lot of 0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.240 guys who are going to be free agents playing awesome. 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.560 So it's kind of that double edged sword where every 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.520 pick it makes you more excited about him, but it 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.080 also probably makes other teams more excited as well to 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.680 give him a big pay day. So big question for 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.440 the offseason for sure. Let's go to Dave and Rhode Island. 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.200 Who's joining us now on the Patriots Postgame Show presented 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:39.440 by Will be Let's go to Dave. Let's go to 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.239 Dave and Charlotte. He'll be there. Hi, Dave, Hey, how 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.280 are you guys doing really good? Yeah, I'm doing my 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.240 part to keep you all awaken these late hours. Oh 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.520 you're a good man. Yeah. And that right there, that 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.360 was that was Thursday night football. That was rough. I agree, 0:31:55.600 --> 0:32:00.520 that was that over? This is Thursday night. So many 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:05.680 field goals? Um? Yeah, So I had a question because 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.960 the commentators were talking right over it. Did that penalty 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.440 against Slater stand? I never thought it over. I thought 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.959 it was okay. I couldn't tell. Yeah, it should have stood. 0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:20.240 But but they they they said that it was incidental. 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.400 But Mike Pereira, the officials expert, came on and said 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.160 that it probably should have stood. All right, David, we 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.000 got to let you go because he was first up 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.960 on our good list tonight. Very much deserving of it. 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.600 A fantastic game for Kyle Dugger joining us on the 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.360 Patriots postgame show. Kyle, you're on with Hardy and Mike 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:42.200 Dissell and Paul Perrello. Congratulations on the win. Thank you, 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.800 I appreciate it. Hey, Kyle, how is the short week 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.920 of preparation, and you know, then, how rewarding is it 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.360 to just go down there and play lights out and 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.120 get a win and shut the Falcons out. The win 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:57.800 was definitely great. I mean, the preparation was was efficient. 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.239 I think we got the most out of every day. 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.880 We hadn't even though we're short. But so I go 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.000 out there and execute on a show a week just 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:08.200 made it that much better. Kyle, how challenging is it 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.120 to sort of get geared up again on and you know, 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.640 and such such short notice. Physically, you guys, I thought 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.400 right from the very beginning of the game tonight, defensively 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:21.680 and you especially, I thought, really brought the physicality to Atlanta, 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.440 really dominated the line of scrimmage and some of the 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.920 plays that you and your fellow defensive backs were making 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.920 out in in the flat on tackle set. How hard 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.280 is that to to continue that physicality of such a 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:39.160 short week. Um, I think it really just comes down 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.000 how to use your time then and how quickly you 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.080 get on it. So with this week, we had to 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.200 really get some of the game in it. You know, 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.480 we had to get you know, into the side and 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.680 the coach up and do whatever we did, so we 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.560 start our bodies knowing that we had to show me 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.240 coming up. So I think everybody, I think I do it. 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.400 Good job. Man. I can't see faverybody else, but I 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.239 feel like it was a good job of getting in there, 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.480 throwing that and being ready to play today. Kyle saw 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.000 at the end of the game there was a lot 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.560 of celebrating going on with a lot of Patriots fans there. 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.880 I think we saw the same thing at Carolina a 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.080 couple of weeks ago. Were you well represented with Patriots 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.440 fans there tonight? I definitely had a lot of family 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.040 in the crowd. I couldn't find them all how it 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.600 was trying to look, but I definitely had a good 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.160 representation out here and it was good. Good to come 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.200 home and let them give me play. Kyle, do you 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:28.720 feel like you're finding a little bit of a stride 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.200 here the last like month or so. You're getting some interceptions, 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.640 seems like you're making plays on the ball, you know, 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.719 some some great tackles. Like do you just feel like 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.319 you're kind of finding your stride a little bit? Uh? Yeah, 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:45.440 just becoming a little more consistent. I think that up 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.800 being more consistent than practicing and making sure I'm focused, 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.160 but I definitely think that it was all of my 0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:58.360 players there just unency and practice energy. Stop the show, now, Kyle, 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.719 it was you know, but about five or six weeks ago. Now, 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.879 that Dallas game obviously didn't end the way you guys want, 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.160 But since then, you guys defensively have taken it to 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.560 a whole different level. And what has been the biggest 0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:14.319 difference over these last five games where you guys have 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.959 just completely suffocated opponents. Your third down defense has been 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.000 just unreal. You're not allowing any teams to breathe, and 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.239 tonight you cap it off with a shout out. What 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.319 has been the difference for you guys over the last 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.880 five games? My really thing you has been growing together. 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.879 We really really been doing a good job of having 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.960 chemistry on the field, and it's starting to come and 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.960 the grind haven't really changed. We've been digging in since 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.160 the week one, but I think really just the chemistry 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.440 start to come together and we start to really you know, 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.600 hit our start and make less mistakes together and play 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:52.040 together better. Kyle, another great win tonight, five in row 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.160 seven and four in the season. It's just a great 0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.920 way to go into a little bit of extra rest here, 0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.040 So thanks for taking the time in. Congratulations again and 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.160 thank you all right, thanks there you go. Congrats Kyle, 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.400 Kyle Dugger, and a big thank you to our partner Microsoft, 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:11.040 Windows eleven, the official operating system of the NFL and 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.960 the New England Patriots. The all new Windows eleven is 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.000 here to bring you closer to what you love like 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.680 the Patriots postgame show. Learned about all the awesome new 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:25.240 features of Windows eleven at Windows dot com. Kyle Dugger. Man, 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.319 but what a treat for us too, after he's first 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.360 up on our good list here tonight, you people to 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.880 get him on there. And uh, I think they are playing, 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.120 you know, more as a unit now than they happened 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.080 in the past. But they just that they all seem 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.440 to be playing with a little more confidence and I 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.960 trust in each other. Yeah, it's all coming together for 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.719 those guys. It just continues to just impress week after 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.560 week here during this winning they've been really really impressive. 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.400 It's it's and it's I mean, it's it's setting the 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.360 bar to you know, these great offenses that they're going 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:00.640 to have to face if they want to get to 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.040 the playoffs. And I think. You know, if I'm any 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.080 team that has to play the Patriots, I'm like, this 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:07.840 is this is going to be a challenge. This is 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.360 a challenging team no matter what you got on offense. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.839 I don't care who they play. Um, they're gonna make 0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.200 it tough one you. They're gonna bring some physicality up front. 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.280 And you know, just seeing Dugger really start to grow 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.239 and and you know, just the physicality like you pointed, 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.600 like the open field hits, like he comes with a pop, 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.000 you know, yeah, and that is something that carries over, 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.879 I think to the rest of the team. You see 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.279 them kind of playing with a physical edge that I mean, 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.440 I don't want to say it's been absent the last 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.480 couple of years, but there's just you know, they're they're 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.120 playing at a good level right now, and I just 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.560 hope they can continue it because now we can talk 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.319 about Tennessee and that physical because that's a physical team too. 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.279 That's a team that wants to be physical. That's a 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.600 team that last time was here ran the ball all 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.719 over you. So but I'll tell you, I like I 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.960 like the Patriots chances in that kind of a matchup 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.719 because it's another team that really only does one thing well, 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.759 and I like the Patriot That's what I was talking about. 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.919 Like when the Patriots have gotten to the point where 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.960 they they're back to that, you know, let the other 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.400 team make mistakes and cap and be ready to pounce 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.919 on him. That's the other thing. Like all they had 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.600 tonight was Kyle Pitts. Right, everybody in their brother knew 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.840 the Patriots were gonna shut down Kyle Pitts. Not because 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.560 Kyle Pitts isn't any good. Matter of fact, I thought 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:23.320 he was pretty impressive tonight. But if that's all you got, 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.120 there's no way that Bill Belichick is going to allow that. 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.960 If he has some horses, there's no way he's going 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.160 to allow one thing. And I just can't imagine Tennessee's 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:37.320 gonna muscle up and just pound away at the Patriots 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.839 and win a game like they did two years ago 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.440 in that playoff game in twenty nineteen. No way. You 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.600 know it's funny too, because I'm thinking the same thing 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.520 I thought. Kyle Pitts. He actually got his tonight. He 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.640 had three catches. One of them was for sixteen yards 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.040 and that was the and he was open a couple 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.399 of other times that they you know, the past, rush 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.040 back to him like I don't think that he did 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.319 anything wrong tonight. In other words, well, it wasn't like 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.080 he wasn't working, wasn't fighting through whatever. They just said, 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.160 you're not beating us. We're gonna put we're gonna put 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.960 multiple bodies around you. You're not gonna beat us. Yeah, 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.919 that's probably what they're gonna do to a J. Brown next. 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.040 You know, that's kind of like a focal point. Well, 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:15.879 I think they're gonna just say, you're not gonna run 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.520 the ball down our throat. Right, We're gonna make sure 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.359 you can't run the ball all over us, and we're 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.640 gonna make sure that doesn't happen, and they're gonna make 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.959 you do it in a different way. Good good, Jude 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.120 unquote coming out of the press conference, I'll share via 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.360 Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic we kind of want to 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.320 be a holes on the field. We play within the 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.279 rules and don't want to get penalized. We're a nasty group. 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.279 I agree. I agree, you are a nasty, nasty group. 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.000 Let's go to Jack in Michigan on the Patriots postgame 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.439 show presented by Cyber Reason. I know what you're laughing at? Jack? 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:51.480 Go ahead, I didn't. I wanted to so bad. I was. 0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:56.360 I was gonna nasty, but I didn't do it. Don't 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.200 mean a thing. Go ahead, Jack. How are you guys 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:03.480 doing good? Um? They got one quick question for you guys. 0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.960 So you know Mac was super efficient today. Um, you know, 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:10.400 finding open guys, you know, throwing. Yeah, going pretty well 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.120 with the defense. You know, next week with you know, 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.799 Kevin Bayer to Monty Hooker or Chris Jackson. How do 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.160 you think they're going to attack it? Do you think 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.120 we're gonna go more of those rough concepts like we 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:20.920 did against the Browns? Do you think Mac is going 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.320 to go more downfield? Like what kind of stuff? Do 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:24.760 you guys? How do you think we're going to attack 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:28.239 next week? Wow? I haven't even I know, I know, 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.280 I haven't. I haven't, But you know, I think avoiding 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:32.960 the middle of their line. I think that's you know, 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:34.839 their defensive line. I think they got some big boys 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:36.759 up there with Simmons, and I mean that's a lot 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.399 of the damage they did that I saw against the Rams. Um, 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.279 you know, jump into them this week to get a 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.239 better sense of it. But um, you know, I I 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.520 think that in many ways. Obviously for with Vrabel, I 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.120 just I think it's a similarly constructed team, even if 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.239 schematically they're not the same. I just think that they're 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.480 a tough football team and they're gonna, you know, come 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.879 in and they might are not gonna get pushed around. 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.520 They might fight, you know, the Bajors might defeat them, 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.120 but don't think they're gonna get pushed around. So we'll see. 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.319 But I just think they got to do whatever they 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.240 can do. I mean, we saw it tonight. It wasn't 0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.279 you know, perfect by any stretch of the imagination. They 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.440 weren't that great on third down. They were effective running 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.600 the ball in spurts, but I think they need to 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.640 get back to some you know, consistency producing offensively and 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.359 then and then they'll have you know, success. But tough 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.200 to say. It's just I think it's an overall it's 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.120 almost more focusing on yourself and executing your own team 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.720 rather than all right, how do we get around the Titans? 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.120 Who you know, I think they have good players, but 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.080 I don't think there's anything like, oh, this is what 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.520 we're going to attack, at least not yet. All right, Jack, 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.399 all right, all right, appreciate it. Thanks buddy, Move down 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.720 south straight down A seventy five and go to Florida. 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.719 We'll talk to Tyler. I was on the Patriots postgame show. 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:48.680 What's up there? Tyler? Hey, how you doing, sir? Excellent? 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.239 Thanks for calling in. What do you got for us? 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:51.880 All right? So this is a little bit more of 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.200 an overreaction than anything. How did the NFL let Mac 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.759 Jones bar More remond ring just fall to the Patriots? 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:03.040 I mean, come on, just insane. But I mean to 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.920 get back on it, I said a quick question. I mean, 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:07.880 what do you guys think the odds are of the 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:09.960 Patriots making it to the Super Bowl. I mean, let's 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:15.200 be real. I gotta see how they do against Buffalo. 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:16.839 I mean, I just I want to see how they 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.160 do against passing teams that have multiple passing threats that 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.720 can kind of spread them out and not allow seven 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.359 man boxes to kind of dictate the matchup. I think, 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.920 if you have a team that has enough passing threats, 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.839 which I mean Buffalo does. But Buffalo is a one 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.359 dimensional team. So I mean, I'm not ruling it out 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.520 that they couldn't come out of the AFC, but I 0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.600 think when you go back, look at the Dallas game, 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.040 look at the Tampa game. How they had to kind of, 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.080 you know, mix and match a little bit and it 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.239 was a little bit of a grind. When they're playing 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.120 these teams now where they're run centric, maybe they have 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.239 one receiving threat. I think that that the odds fall 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:51.879 in the Patriots favor. But if you have a team 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.960 that's able to go four or five wide, stress their 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.279 cornerback depth, not allow their their defensive linemen to you know, 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.719 dictate the matchups, um, then then I think they might 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.480 have some problems. I don't know though, but I they'll 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.120 they'll They'll have to prove it here at the end 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.640 of the season with those two games against Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah, 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:12.040 I mean I I would say that there's no team 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.239 that the Patriots could face that I would say that 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.360 they can't play with absolutely, But that doesn't mean I 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:18.759 think they're going to the Super Bowl. I mean, I 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.000 agree with Mike. I want to see a lot more. 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.160 I mean, just off the top of my head here, 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:29.000 I'm trying to think the Chargers. The only team with 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:33.439 a winning record that they've beaten, well, that was the Yeah, 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.959 and that was the yea and the five and four. Yeah, 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.200 and that was the last team to give them a game. 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.000 But you know, you're you're automatically, you know, my mind 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:43.839 goes to, you know, super Bowl? What are we talking 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.560 about here? No, I'm not. I'm not dismissing their chances. 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:50.040 I'm not. I'm no. I'm just saying, like my knee 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.520 jerk is is to say, like, that's not really you 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.520 know what this team is about. The Chargers was the 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.600 tight gend. That was the three point win, and that was, 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:00.880 you know, a good team at least at the time. 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.920 You know it's yeah, you think that may change on that. 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:08.400 I mean, you have the Jets, the Jets, Houston, Carolina, Atlanta. 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.320 There's a five really bad teams, right, but really bad. 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.799 But when you start looking at the trend, Okay, so 0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.680 you've played one team in the Browns, which I did 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.520 leave one in the Charges, I think a good win. 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.680 I didn't think we're awful. In you you're mixing the 0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:26.200 Panthers and the Falcons. Tonight, Falcons are what they are. 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.719 Even though they had gotten themselves to five hundred, as 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.719 Burt Rear pointed out just eleven days ago, these last 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.799 three games they have won by a combined ninety four 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.879 to thirteen. That's a team that is trending as many 0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.280 points as the Falcons have lost the last two months. 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.919 But they know they've the Patriots. To me, it's it's 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.480 it's what we started with. Five, five and oh on 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.880 the road now, I mean, yes, I know, I know, 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.560 there's not I mean, they played four bad teams. I 0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.480 don't care. They've won every road game. Other teams are 0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.040 going on the road against bad teams and losing one. 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.719 Pagriots haven't lost any and not only they haven't lost 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.520 any since that Houston and really none of them have 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.520 been close. Like they blew out the bad teams. And 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.320 you know, even tonight when they kind of stumble around 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.399 a little bit and go four for twelve on third down, 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.239 it's still thirteen nothing in the game's kind of over 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.359 in the fourth quarter, right unless you gave the nod 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.439 earlier than that. Oh, I gave the knot at three nothing. 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.680 We're gonna step aside here, we'll come back. We'll talk 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:38.319 to Alex and California's speed. He's out in California as well, 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.960 and Aaron, who is a bone to pick with you, Paul, 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.319 I don't know about what. Who has a bone to 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.279 pick with me? Aaron in Minnesota, Okay, because I just 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:48.759 said that they could go to the Super Bowl, So 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.799 I don't see how I can get boned pick. Well, 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:55.040 maybe maybe Aaron doesn't think that, but we'll find out. 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.200 Maybe maybe I'm too positive. What do you think the 0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.319 odds are of that? I'm gonna say zero. I'd say 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.960 very slim, very very slim. We want to thank Bows. 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.440 They're proud to be the official sound and official headphones 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:08.080 of the New England Patriots and the NFL Bowls. 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Join the conversation by calling the 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.200 A Sticket hotline at eight five five PATS five hundred, 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:54.600 or email the show at web radio at Patriots dot com. 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.120 Can we start to pens one some wins? Now? Nope? 0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:58.800 Why not? Who do you want to pencil on in 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.960 on Jackson? Yeah, you can pencil that one in live 0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:09.120 from our studios inside Galette Stadium. Here's Hardy. Sorry, Deuce 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.439 was talking about the Sopranos. What are you doing, Duce? 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.160 Stay focused? I jumped in. I jumped in. Sorry, All right, 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.040 We're in the We're into a boy, We are in it. 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:21.440 The Patriots postgame Show presented by cyber Reason, official defenders 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.840 of the New England Patriots. Twenty five to nothing. The 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:28.239 Patriots get their first shutout of the year. Another road 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:32.840 win that makes five road wins. They are undefeated on 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.359 the road still, right, that's Y's craziness. It's weird when 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:37.560 you have that team. A couple of years ago, the 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.160 couldn't win any games on the road. I mean they 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.680 did at the end, but just strange outworks winning the 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.840 Super Bowl. But right right, that's like, you know, these 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.200 guys that we won't want to want to lose a 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:47.520 game on the road all year they go on the road, 0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.480 they'll lose. I don't know. There's no rhyme or reason too, 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:52.080 it's just strange. They moved to seven and four on 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.480 the season. And now we're taking your calls. We'll go 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:58.120 to Alex in California. Eight five five, Pat's five hundred. 0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:02.320 That's the ACE ticket hotline. Alex. What's going on? What's up? Guys? 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.400 First time caller, Love the show. Bactually at the Browns 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.799 game last weekend, Super high, super great weekend. But I 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:10.399 did want to bring up a point that was made 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.360 after the Jets game, I think by you, Paul. But 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.719 as you mentioned, how you thought that Belichick wanted to 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.960 make a statement by keeping the foot on the gas 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.720 depensely scoring fifty points against a team like the Jets, 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.319 although they weren't able to like win those close games 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.680 early in the year, like Tampa, Dallas, like Miami. I 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.880 really felt like they needed to hold their head up 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:31.759 high on something. And I feel like that Jets game 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.080 was kind of it, but kind of kind of ran 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.319 across that point you made a couple of weeks ago, 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.000 and it kind of its true and it reminds me 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.239 about the end of the twenty eighteen season kind of. Yeah. Yeah, 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.800 I do think that that that was why he continued 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.760 to go. I think he was trying to really pump 0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:47.680 the team up, you know, really build him up a 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.920 little bit. I think that's why he kept the foot 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:55.920 on the gas that day. Yeah. No, I I totally 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.160 felt like that was a big turning point of the season. 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.439 And who knows, We'll see what happens with this in here, 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:03.000 all right, Alex appreciate the call, Thanks buddy, Thanks for 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.480 checking in. Spiing Fresno. Always check it in pre end 0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:10.120 post speed. What do you got for us? Let's have it. Yeah, 0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.200 I mean, I'm never sure what to make of a 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:15.920 Thursday night situation. I mean, yeah, the old line was 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.879 a fatigue when Max is getting hit so much. I mean, 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.640 you gotta love that the defensive down on the third 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.359 and one and fourth and one. But the stuff that's 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.520 on my mind is twenty eight to three. Stof Morick talk. Um. 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.120 You know, it's twenty five to nothing. It's the same 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:35.360 point differential, which is nice, But there's like when you 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.239 were down sixteen to nothing, when you were up to 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.440 sixteen nothing, I mean, I was thinking that it was 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:41.879 probably more likely we'd somehow make it to twenty eighth 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:45.240 than that the Falcons were gonna gonna field goal. But 0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.360 but here's there's so many stupid questions to ask about this, 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:50.920 but here's here's the one I'll land on. So the 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.839 Falcons missed a field goal earlier, and again they had 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.920 that chance to get their three. So what are the 0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.640 chances that you're up twenty five to three and you 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.640 and Bill can go to victory formation? But he instead says, 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.480 you know, what's the chances that Bill would have done that? 0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:09.719 Zero or five? Ten? I wonder if twenty three even 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:13.040 means anything to him, Like, does that even register on? 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.640 I honestly don't done. I think I think there's a 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:20.360 better chance that he would have thrown a bomb to 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.000 try to score a touchdown, right, Honestly, because that's what 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.600 he's done in these In these games, he's continued to 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.399 try to school. Now it is funny. I didn't see 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.000 any twenty three shirt reports, though, I'm sad to say so, 0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.640 hopefully like I was wearing mine and I have one 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:37.120 of your original nice? Oh wow, the og nice? How 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:38.960 much you make on try? All right? Good, have a 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:45.160 good week. Thanks enough? Nothing left now, but let's go 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.759 to Aaron and Minnesota and his bone that he has 0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:54.799 to pick with Paul. Aaron, what's up? Can you hear me? Yeah? Hey, 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:59.160 love you guys. Um, I'm an andy guy. That's why 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:05.279 I want to you with Paul. Okay, yeah, it's over 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.120 a dumb play. Really, I'm an andy guy too. Is 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:12.440 it the fullback play? Like grudgingly walking the call against 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:16.799 later that was overturned? Oh okay, yeah, I feel that 0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.080 was absolutely the right call by the officials. Now why 0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:25.719 is that? Why do you disagree with Mike Pereira? I 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:30.480 always do, um the guys that it's a masters that 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.680 run the officials, no less than yeah, okay, I get it. 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:39.080 You're you're right, not always yeah, but later that he 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:43.040 he waved a fair catch late and Slater. If you 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:47.319 watch it he was running and then was trying to 0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.880 get out of the way. Yes, And he was definitely 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:53.720 trying to get out of the way, no question. But 0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.839 he hit all the flight was shifting to the right, yes, 0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:01.360 same way that later was no right. So let me 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.120 let me just add this is the way I would say, 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.680 And obviously no one really cares. It was an inconsequential play. 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.920 But I said this when when they decided to pick 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.720 the flag up. I said to Mike, so you're telling 0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:16.960 me that if that contact caused him to lose the ball, 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.719 the Patriots would have gotten the ball. Like, does that 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:25.040 seem fair? Because there was clearly contact between the defender 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:30.160 and the returner on a fair catch. So you're telling 0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:34.960 me if the ball lift though, what, it doesn't matter late, earlier, indifferent. 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:37.040 You have to give the guy a chance to catch 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:41.799 the ball, which I thought he was trying to do. 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:49.320 He was trying, but he didn't was kind of drifting him. Correct. Okay, er, 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.640 But here's what they ruled was it was incidental contact, 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.720 Not that it was late, not that it was pushed 0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.640 into him, not nothing. They just said it was incidental contact, 0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.640 which I don't have a huge problem with. But you 0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.799 have a rule in the book probably should have been 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.239 a penalty. You can't hit him, but but he did. 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:07.359 And here's the question, Aaron, and and I think it's 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:11.920 a good one. If that contact had caused a fumble 0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.760 and the Patriots recovered it, do you think they still 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:21.120 would have said, no, no penalty there. I have no idea, 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.040 all right, Yeah, And it's it's like it is, it's 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:27.759 a it's a funny one. Um. You know, it's like 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:31.920 there was on a you know, no question, but that 0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.759 that's not a really a question of intent. Hey, Aaron thinks, 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.319 actually have one more question for you. How does one 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.400 get to be an andy guy? How does that happen? 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.200 Because he fights with Paul and Fred and fights with 0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:49.840 Eric and challenges Eric on like Deuce doesn't. Eric needs 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:54.080 to be challenged more and not just coddled like a 0:54:54.160 --> 0:55:00.200 little boy. Aaron, do you do you call all the time? 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.359 You need to start calling during the week. You've you've 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.880 quickly become my favorite caller ever. I love that you 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:13.880 can't coddle him like a child. I love that he 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:17.839 does get treated with kids. Yeah, he's nailed it. Eric 0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.000 just nailed it. Yeah, he's in his bed right now 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:23.080 and his full man pajamas just zonked out. Aaron called 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:24.600 during the week, he got you always got one of 0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:28.799 those little caps, right, Oh yeah, cap cape, And I 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.120 went to sleep. I had my tea and uh and 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.600 the meditation. I was. I didn't even have to stay 0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:36.920 up and watch the game because before the season I 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.200 pinioned the Patriots to beat Atlanta, so I knew what 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.480 was going to happen. Aaron, don't be a stranger. Thanks buddy, 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:50.320 Thanks great job, Aaron. Thank shots. The epitome of Squidward 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:54.600 otherwise known as Eric Um. Let's go to Kevin and 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.520 San Francisco. Kevin, you're up next year? On the Patriots 0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:02.640 postgame show presented by Cyber Reason. Hello, hey boys, how 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:05.000 are you doing good? Vin? How are you hey? I 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.640 was I was just listening that the talk about the 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.520 Slater play. I think, I sink I think Slater got 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.880 away with one just because he's been in, you know, 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:16.319 an MVP on special teams for so many years. I 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.680 think I think if there was somebody else, I think 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:22.759 they call that um. But anyway, I just wanted to 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.879 call and say, as always, haven't talked to you guys 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.880 since last year. Great, great, job is always great pregame 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.880 and postgame show. You know, it's I walk away from this, 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.480 this this game going. You know, Hey, we have a 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.759 lot to clean up, but we won. And that's the 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.560 thing that's my takeaway over the last few weeks. There's 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:42.160 a lot of things that we need to clean up 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.560 and get better at, but we're getting wins. And there's 0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.239 so many bad teams that have games where they do 0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:49.359 a lot of good things, but they do enough bad 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.799 things to lose. And I'll take this any day. I 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.760 don't We're not a finished product by any means, but 0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.840 I like the fact that we're having more progress and 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.480 more success until you're each week and we still have 0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:04.759 something to learn about when they go do the film 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:09.400 work on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. So anyway, thanks guys, all right, 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.719 appreciate it. And I think tonight's things to clean up 0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.799 a more understandable too, just because of the spot. Yeah, 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.200 the Thursday night stuff. Yeah, And what I like is 0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:23.480 that you're coming up on there's no more qualifiers. You're 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:26.000 gonna play the Tennessee Titans, you're gonna play the Buffalo bits. 0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.840 Like It's just it's illustrated right there. We were watching, 0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.240 you know, a little of the NBC Sports Boston. To 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.800 Mike's point, you know, okay, so the best win right 0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.680 now is six and five or five and four, But 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:39.920 do you haven't eat and two team followed by a 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:42.560 six and three team and then a week after that 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.640 you got another You're gonna have that six and three 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:48.440 team again, so you have opportunities to post the wins 0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.000 that other teams have posted. It's right there in front 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:54.160 of you. Ye yeah, I and I think that is, um, 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.480 you know, like one of the main things to look 0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.360 forward for the rest of the season. You've got a 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.160 seven and four a team right now that still has 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:05.439 some untapped potential. They've still they've still got some things 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:10.560 that I don't think they've fully realized yet. And it's 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:14.120 certainly offensively. I don't say how the defense can't get better. 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.600 On Sunday, I thought, you know, you kind of saw 0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:20.400 exactly what this team could do when it's really clicking, right, 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.880 you know, But that was with one running back. You know, 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.040 they had a Harris back in there tonight and I 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.640 basically just a tiny little bit, but basically you had 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.640 the same production, is is my my point? Like, you know, 0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.720 instead of twenty for one hundred, you had ten and 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:38.840 ten for fifty each. Yeah, okay, you know, and you 0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:41.120 might say you can only I know you might say, 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.560 I'd rather have the ten and ten for fifty each, 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.880 keep them fresh, blah blah blah. Yeah. I don't think 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.560 it's wrong, but I'm just saying, like you basically had 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.120 the same production. That's why I put them together. Chad, 0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:57.080 Chad in Los Angeles? What's going on? Chad? Hey, guys, 0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:00.000 how are you tonight? Real real good? Thank you. I'm 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:02.800 the riddles of the phone. The phone banks are loaded. Oh, 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:09.360 we're doing well. I am incredibly excited about what's been happening. 0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:14.760 I can't believe we're here. I'm kind of actually, um 0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:18.920 trying to figure out how we got here, especially with 0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:22.960 the defense being as strong as it is. I'm also 0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:26.720 wondering what your guys's opinion is as far as jude 0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:30.280 On being one of the best acquisitions we've had. I 0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:34.000 don't know, maybe ever, like, yeah, where does it rank 0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:38.480 in your in your guys's perspective, um, you know, throughout 0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:43.959 the years, because it seems like the dynasty is continuing on. Yeah, 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:46.640 I mean, I this is I mean Judean's what you 0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:49.560 hope a Dahlias Thomas would have been. And granted, this 0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:52.760 is a sample size that you know, we're whatever eleven 0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:55.480 games in or that now, but it's hard to ask 0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:57.880 for more. And I think the combination of signing jude 0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:01.400 On and in draft Barmore, who just you know that 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:03.200 those are the kind of guys. I mean, I really 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:07.160 they've been searching for a guy like that forever, but 1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:09.280 now they have one. The guy that can be disruptive 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:12.040 and that that's just consistently a problem. I mean, it's 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:14.080 I don't want to compare him to Seymore, but I 1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.000 think the impact he has on the game is consistent 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.360 with a guy like Seymour of playing up and down 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:21.840 the line pressure. You know, if you try to block 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:23.840 him with one guy, if you try to go for 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:25.960 it on third and short, he's going to be pushing 1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:28.520 guys into the backfield. And so just the combination of 1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:31.840 those two I think has really just elevated everything else, 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:35.000 allowed other guys to make plays, and uh, it's it's 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:36.840 it's all, it's all clicking right now. I think the 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:40.000 offense has got to continue to make strides and find consistency, 1:00:40.040 --> 1:00:42.439 but I feel real good about the d right now. Yeah, Ched, 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:45.600 I guess so impressed with how far we've come. I mean, 1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:48.120 in just such a short period of time. It's incredible. 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:50.880 Since Brady Laft that that this is where we're at, 1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:53.200 I just I can't believe it. Yeah, well, I'd be 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:56.480 hesitant to say the dynasty continues. There's seven and four. 1:00:58.760 --> 1:01:02.720 It is. It is a really nice change from where 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:05.840 we thought this team was, and where the team, where 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:08.760 the team was at the end of last season, and 1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:11.080 where they were just a few weeks ago at two 1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:15.280 and four. So these are all positive developments. But to 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:19.480 put that type of pressure and expectation on ourselves and 1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:21.680 on the team by saying, well we have our next, 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:24.800 our next fifteen to eighteen year quarterback that was set 1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:29.760 on the telecast tonight eighteen eighteen years, it's ridiculous. Okay, 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:34.240 So let's let's, you know, be grateful for what we 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.400 have here, which is now a winning team, a team 1:01:36.400 --> 1:01:38.480 that is you know, we're happy when they got to 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:41.560 five hundred. They've rattled off three more wins since then. 1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.440 I'm happy that I think that they've gotten to a 1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:49.280 point where I no longer look at them going against 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:52.320 other teams and feeling like they don't really have much 1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:55.280 of a shot, right I think they have a chance 1:01:55.360 --> 1:02:01.560 on anybody right now, and I think if, uh, if 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.240 things go right, I think they have a chance to 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:07.080 win a lot of games down the stretch here, even 1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:10.080 with these this four game stretch coming. But I'm not 1:02:10.120 --> 1:02:15.040 willing to say, like three years ago, if we were 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.400 seven and four we were, we'd be sitting here with 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:21.760 panic in the streets. Yeah, you know, to to to 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:26.800 continue that like the dynasty talk like I'm not ready 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:30.560 to do that. I'm ready to say this is a 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:34.160 really good football team capable of beating anybody. I think 1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:37.200 it's a good football team. And but my my problem 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:39.240 is Paul, and it's not a problem. I'll tell you 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:41.520 why in a second. Other teams that they're still going 1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:43.520 to face, and other teams that are out there, I 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:46.840 still say are better on paper, they have, they have 1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:50.360 better teams, But the virtually every other team, many of 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:54.240 those that I you know now because you see these 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:57.760 teams losing games that they choose some personnel and frankly 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:01.120 and losing some personnel, but also just losing games sometimes 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:04.400 with the Buccaneers, Yeah, they continue to lose personnel here. Yeah, 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:06.840 the Buccaneers aren't anywhere near as talented is the team 1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:10.680 that we played in Week three exactly exactly, So um, 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:14.360 Week four, whatever it was, it was Week four. I remember. 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:17.840 I seem to remember a big Week four game around 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:20.240 here that people kept talking about circle week four on 1:03:20.320 --> 1:03:23.000 the calendar. Was that because he was the Buccaneers. Do 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:26.560 you remember some of the preseason talk of you can't 1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:29.160 have Mac Jones play in that game, it will ruin them. 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:31.560 Oh man, some of the stuff, Like, I mean, I've 1:03:31.600 --> 1:03:33.880 said it before, just like I think they should just 1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:36.600 you know, probably they're gonna start Cam and bring Mac 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:39.200 along slowly. Like thank god I was wrong about that. 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:43.080 If we're gonna be fair, I believe at least my 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:45.640 thoughts on it were, you don't want to bring Mac 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:50.000 Jones into that game. If if Com were the starter 1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:52.560 and he faltered in the first three, he didn't want 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:55.440 mac Jones to have that be his first start the NFL, 1:03:55.960 --> 1:03:59.640 which is different than just having him that much different, 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:01.720 but it is different. I think it's a lot different. 1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:03.480 I just felt like, if you felt like he was 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:06.000 your starter, I don't understand why you would say he's 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.440 my starter, but not against Tampa. No, no, no no, no, 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:11.120 I'm saying I wouldn't start him, and that was his 1:04:11.120 --> 1:04:12.760 first shot at you. That was a shot at Mike 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:14.920 and Tony. Okay, but I would I would not have 1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:19.680 made that his first football game. I'm saying, yeah, Well, 1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:22.040 I mean I don't know, like I said, if I 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:24.160 thought he'd done it, if I thought he was my starter, 1:04:24.240 --> 1:04:27.760 and that was the week I thought he passed cam. Yeah, 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:31.800 were you no training wheels? Dad? Was I a no 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:34.600 training wheels dad? Yeah? Just when you were teaching your 1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:37.320 your boys bicycles, did they have training wheels? No, they 1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:39.160 did not have training wheels. Well, I mean they had. 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:42.240 They did have the little you know, the little little 1:04:42.280 --> 1:04:45.920 tyke bikes that have like coasterine, but once they tried 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:48.760 to learn how to ride bikes, they didn't have training ohne, 1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:50.920 no training wheels for my kids. So they had a 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:54.120 coaster bike that my my daughter used a lot. But 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:57.560 when she got her first bike came with training wheels 1:04:57.560 --> 1:04:59.120 and I took him right off. I'm like, you don't 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:01.960 need them through the yeah, donate them. No training wheels. 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.120 We did have a hard time with my younger son. Yeah, yeah, 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:08.479 he had he had a little Uh, he had some issues. Yeah, 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:10.840 we have one bad issue on a bike with my son, 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:13.920 with my youngest to the digger. I remember. So they 1:05:14.360 --> 1:05:17.200 you know, when when the kids in the neighborhood started 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:21.720 to like really like venture out and ride around, then 1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:23.320 they had to get him to ride a bike, right, 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:25.240 So they all they all helped him out, and he 1:05:25.320 --> 1:05:27.080 was you know, he got up to speed and he 1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:29.800 was fine. And uh, I would say like maybe a 1:05:29.840 --> 1:05:31.880 month after all of this happened, like they sort of 1:05:31.880 --> 1:05:33.960 had an intervention. They can we're gonna help you, Tea, 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:37.560 We're gonna help you. So I'm driving home one day 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:41.480 and and there's like this long, windy road that leads 1:05:41.520 --> 1:05:45.320 to my street. So I'm driving around community and they 1:05:45.320 --> 1:05:50.080 come yea by the security guard. Yeah. So I'm going 1:05:50.480 --> 1:05:52.960 I'm coming around. I'm coming around the bend of this 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:58.360 street and and I see this like a bike on 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:07.960 its side and like, kid, oh Jesus, it's TJ. He 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:11.439 had fallen over. A couple of people had helped him, 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:14.640 and he was like all sad. He wasn't crying, but 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:18.080 he was like really embarrassed. UM, and I was like, 1:06:18.120 --> 1:06:21.760 what happened? He goes, he was just driving up street, 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:24.640 the steering wheel turn, I hit the fence I found 1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:28.400 Oh my god, I could stop laugh and I felt 1:06:28.400 --> 1:06:31.280 so bad. The same thing happened to me, but I 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:33.680 was tj I wiped out on my bike on a street, 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:35.720 got all caught up, and my parents just happened to 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:37.480 be driving the other way and we're like, oh my god, 1:06:37.480 --> 1:06:39.560 that's Mike, and stopped and help me. That's a funny 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:42.640 random Mike. Mike, that's my real name. Oh yeah, that's 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:46.040 my real name. I forget him. Like, who's Mike number 1:06:46.080 --> 1:06:48.920 D train. Yeah, let's go to a Connor and Waltam. 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:51.560 What's up? Connor? You're on the Patriots Pulse game show 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:53.760 twenty five to nothing shut out over the Falcons in 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:59.400 Atlanta tonight. What's up? Yeah? I mean, honestly, like Thursday 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:02.480 night football is always weird, So I mean about as 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:05.520 happy as I could be about that. UM just had 1:07:05.520 --> 1:07:10.400 a quick question regarding Mac Jones and like the comment 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:14.280 about the training wheels, UM heard a lot of talk 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:18.440 about his feeling like as it relates to maybe the 1:07:18.480 --> 1:07:22.080 other quarterbacks in the draft, they're current quarterbacks in the league. Like, 1:07:23.640 --> 1:07:26.680 I don't really know what that means, like the physical 1:07:26.720 --> 1:07:30.960 aspect of him with the arm strength and um, maybe 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:33.400 the ability to make the big throw, but the decision 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:37.080 making and everything else that goes involved, like the mental aspect. 1:07:38.280 --> 1:07:41.280 Why does that get to overlook in the NFL versus 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:44.480 maybe the Josh Allen it doesn't. That's why. That's why 1:07:44.480 --> 1:07:47.680 he was a first round pick. I think that's I 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:51.360 think that's why, and I think the Patriots we were 1:07:51.400 --> 1:07:53.600 happy to get him there. But I also give some 1:07:53.680 --> 1:07:56.840 credit to the to the coaching there there. There have 1:07:56.920 --> 1:08:00.760 been times and counter thanks for the call, but just 1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:04.040 on physical ability, he wouldn't have been a first round pick. No, 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:06.600 he would. He would not have. And you know we 1:08:06.600 --> 1:08:09.720 were talking about this earlier today. I look, these are 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:12.400 long days, So I apologize if it was us talking 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:14.720 about it in the pre game, or if it was 1:08:14.760 --> 1:08:17.080 me and Beatle talking about it earlier today was zo. 1:08:17.280 --> 1:08:21.679 But when it comes to you know, these letdown games 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:24.000 that rookies have, or maybe a letdown game that the 1:08:24.040 --> 1:08:26.880 Patriots have, it's like, uh, just expecting this, you know, 1:08:26.920 --> 1:08:30.240 really bad performance for mac Jones. I don't know that 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:32.960 the coaches would let him do that. I don't know 1:08:33.040 --> 1:08:36.599 that Josh McDaniels and Belichick would leave him out there 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:39.760 for a four interception game or like like we saw 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:43.120 last week or the week before it Again they're blending 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:46.840 together too. Really has five pass attempts in the in 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:49.040 the second half and a game when it just doesn't 1:08:49.040 --> 1:08:51.280 have a going It wasn't against Cleveland as the week before. 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:54.320 You understand what I'm saying though, So some of this 1:08:54.479 --> 1:08:57.400 decision making, I'll give most of the credit to Mac, 1:08:57.680 --> 1:09:00.000 and I'll give a you know, some of the credit 1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:03.040 to the coaching and the way he's he's been brought 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:06.559 along this season too. You know, I was frustrating earlier on. 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:08.479 I would have liked to have seen him you know, 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.479 maybe had the rains taken off a little bit more, 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:15.479 especially on some red zone plays. But it's hard to 1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:18.200 argue with the results that we're getting now. Yeah, I mean, 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:20.000 they've done a good job. I mean, if you believe 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:23.200 it's all connected, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I do. 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:25.720 I mean, it's I just I go back to when 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:27.920 they announced Mac as the starter, and that was, you know, 1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:30.360 surprising they I mean, I guess we first heard Cam 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:32.160 was getting released. Was the first part of it, but 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:36.320 Josh McDaniels. I mean, that's why all week he listened 1:09:36.360 --> 1:09:38.120 to is is Josh going to stick around? I think, 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:41.000 you know, everyone's freaking out now that Josh McDaniels is 1:09:41.040 --> 1:09:44.000 gonna leave, But h it's it's it's been a clinic 1:09:44.080 --> 1:09:46.559 and I think that, you know, and you also got 1:09:46.560 --> 1:09:49.880 to mention just Mac being a great fit for here 1:09:49.920 --> 1:09:51.960 and just you know, the coaching staff and everything is 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:53.599 in place, and they went out and they got all 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:55.920 these guys, including you know, two tight ends. I know, 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:57.519 you know one one's worked out a little bit and 1:09:57.560 --> 1:09:59.759 the other right now, but they kind of put everything 1:09:59.760 --> 1:10:01.760 in lace and had a support system for him. And 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:04.519 now that the offensive line is playing like we hope 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:06.680 they would at the beginning of the season, with you know, 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:09.880 Trump Brown coming back, but just playing together in front 1:10:10.360 --> 1:10:11.960 given him the time. I think that's you know, we 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:13.720 saw it really last week. I think this is this 1:10:13.760 --> 1:10:15.720 week's a little bit of a Thursday night game and 1:10:15.920 --> 1:10:17.240 you got to take it with a grain of salt. 1:10:17.240 --> 1:10:19.519 But they've done an excellent job in it, and it 1:10:19.640 --> 1:10:22.080 just doesn't it's never seemed like Max swimming in. It 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:24.640 doesn't feel like he's you know, making mistakes and then 1:10:24.680 --> 1:10:28.000 they're snowballing. Um, you know, so they they've done a 1:10:28.040 --> 1:10:29.559 good job of that. I you know, I would be 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:32.040 curious how they would manage him if there was a 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:34.479 game like that where wow, that he's getting crushed out there, 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:36.640 like you just you can't get anything going, you know, 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:38.360 would they what would they do to kind of pull 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:40.240 back or to help? Hopefully we'll not have to see that. 1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:42.479 But um, but they But they've done a really good 1:10:42.560 --> 1:10:45.400 job and he's playing great and uh it's it's great 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:47.559 for the team. I mean the long term viability of 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.000 the Patriots to have a kid like this playing like this. 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:53.559 Sure love all the calls coming in. Oh this is great. 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:57.120 Go out to California again. Well talk to Steve this 1:10:57.240 --> 1:11:01.120 time on the Patriots post game shown to buy cyber Reason. 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:04.240 Hi Steve, thanks for Colin. What do you got for us? Hey? 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:07.000 Thank you guys, been a long time fan forever, first 1:11:07.000 --> 1:11:11.360 time collect just did ask you guys what your opinion was. Um, 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:16.120 love this offense, Love Mac. I feel like our offense 1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:18.479 still doesn't have an identity and by that I mean 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:22.280 we still don't have you know, Jacobe will go off 1:11:22.280 --> 1:11:24.519 for a game and then Kendrick Borne will go off 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:26.960 for a game, Nelson Nagel will go off for a game. 1:11:27.200 --> 1:11:29.760 But we don't have those go to guys and U 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:34.080 or at least consistently. It seems random. So and I 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:37.280 think once we start getting Johnny Smith involved, I feel 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:39.559 like we're just not firing on all filinders. And once 1:11:39.600 --> 1:11:42.800 we do, it's my opinion, and I think the league 1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:45.640 will be on notice once we start firing on all filinders. 1:11:45.760 --> 1:11:47.760 You know what, I'd rather have it be this way. 1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:50.680 That's not going to happen. Yeah. I love that the 1:11:50.720 --> 1:11:54.240 identity of the offense is power. It's it's power football. 1:11:54.280 --> 1:11:57.439 They run the ball, that's the identity. Yeah yeah, I 1:11:57.439 --> 1:11:58.920 mean when was the last time they ran for less 1:11:58.920 --> 1:12:01.519 than one hundred yards in the game. That's so true. 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:05.000 And and Damian Harris back there, you can't even argue 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:08.160 with it. I mean, they remandre, especially in my opinion, 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:11.160 he passed the eye test. The guy just he falls 1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:14.439 for five yards even when he's getting pressured in the backfield. 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:17.519 It's amazing. But I just don't I think that this 1:12:17.640 --> 1:12:22.480 offense hasn't even unlocked their true potential. And watch they disagree. 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:24.439 I think this is what the offense is. I think 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:27.360 they're doing exactly what they want to do. On offense. 1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:30.360 They're they're controlling the ball, they're pounding away at defenses. 1:12:30.720 --> 1:12:33.000 This is exactly how they wanted to play when you 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:36.439 if you asked them in August, how they thought it 1:12:36.439 --> 1:12:39.080 would unfold. This is it what you've seen in the 1:12:39.120 --> 1:12:42.479 last five weeks. We're gonna hold the ball, We're gonna 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:45.280 beat you up. We're gonna come at you with our big, rough, 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:48.639 tough offensive line. They were a little bit shaky earlier 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:51.599 in the year. They've gotten it together Trent Brown being back. 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:54.840 Now they're gonna play power football and they're gonna shorten games. 1:12:55.080 --> 1:12:57.679 They're gonna control the ball thirty two, thirty three, thirty 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.920 four minutes, and they're gonna just beat you to a pall. 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:02.760 That's what they do. Well. I'm going to agree with 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:04.760 both of you because Paul, I think they do have 1:13:04.800 --> 1:13:07.040 an identity. It's a run the ball type of offense, 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:10.120 and it's a power offense. But I also agree with 1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:13.120 Steve and that I think John H. Smith can play better. 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:16.839 I think Hunter Henry can be more involved and but 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:19.280 but I don't want to do it Steve, if this 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:24.000 makes sense to the point where it becomes predictable, and 1:13:24.200 --> 1:13:28.320 that's a luxury you can afford when you're Tom Brady 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:30.759 and you have Julian Edelman. Okay, he was the motor 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:33.600 that made the offense go and everyone knew that was 1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:36.080 his go to guy and they couldn't do anything about it. 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:39.519 That's a luxury when you have the greatest quarterback of 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:43.439 all time and one of the most underrated receivers and 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:46.040 you don't have either of that right now. So I 1:13:46.040 --> 1:13:50.519 would rather them keep this identity, but just I guess, 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:55.440 enhance it, or supplement it, or do whatever by untapping 1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:58.120 a little bit more of that potential that you're talking about, Steve, 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:02.760 I agree, And especially with some tough games coming up, 1:14:02.800 --> 1:14:05.920 specifically those two Bills games. You know those Bills are 1:14:06.439 --> 1:14:09.040 going to hone in on our running game and and 1:14:09.200 --> 1:14:10.840 dare Max to throw the ball and he's going to 1:14:10.920 --> 1:14:13.000 do a good job like he's done all season. Um 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:16.479 but that, but he's relying on efficiency. And I love him, 1:14:16.520 --> 1:14:19.400 I mean, I'm a big fan, but when when they're 1:14:19.400 --> 1:14:21.200 shut down our run game and we need to turn 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:24.080 to that passing game, that's when you need you know 1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:27.759 Nelson to make consistent plays, Kendrick to make consistent plays, 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:30.600 and especially Johnny. I really do think Johnny is the 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:32.559 key to our offense. When we get that guy going, 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:36.040 it's gonna it's gonna confuse defensive coordinators in my opinion. 1:14:36.360 --> 1:14:38.000 All right, well, all you have to do is get 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:40.439 him inside the thirty. Yes, Paul, I have a question 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:43.200 question in the back. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Why why 1:14:43.240 --> 1:14:45.760 do people think it's a matter of time before he 1:14:45.800 --> 1:14:51.479 gets going Johnny Smith? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know, because 1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:56.080 he was expensive. I mean, I don't think he's been 1:14:57.080 --> 1:15:00.400 like terrible like a lot of other people do. But 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:04.360 I think I had mentioned it was like his career 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:07.439 high is like forty five catches. Yeah, it's kind of 1:15:07.439 --> 1:15:11.840 on pace for forty five catches. And I just don't 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:16.439 think that he is I think people think that he 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:20.480 is something more than he was. Yeah, I mean, I'm 1:15:20.520 --> 1:15:22.880 I'm guilty of it. I'm guilty of of you know, 1:15:23.240 --> 1:15:25.240 pounding that drum about john who And I mean I 1:15:25.320 --> 1:15:28.360 did it tonight and I don't know tonight. I feel 1:15:28.400 --> 1:15:30.000 like I'm just I just don't know if he's going 1:15:30.040 --> 1:15:31.960 to be an impact player for them. And I don't, 1:15:31.960 --> 1:15:33.479 and I don't, and I don't know that it really 1:15:33.560 --> 1:15:36.120 matters all that much because they've gotten other guys to stop. 1:15:36.120 --> 1:15:37.960 I don't think it matters at all. So it's I 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:39.639 think it's just one of those things when you signed 1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:42.160 all those guys in free agency. Some are gonna work, 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:44.880 some weren't. It's unfortunate that you know, clearly one that 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:47.360 you signed for four years hasn't worked out, but he 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:49.519 is here for another three years that they want him. 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:56.519 So I just look at him like you have. I 1:15:56.760 --> 1:16:01.519 don't understand why you feel the need to have like 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:04.280 a go to guy Like I wish they had like 1:16:04.479 --> 1:16:08.479 better options, like you know, maybe more dynamic options so 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:11.920 they didn't have to constantly peck their way down the 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:15.360 field like maybe they could get you know, you know, 1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:18.120 have a guy take a five yard slant and pick 1:16:18.200 --> 1:16:21.600 up forty on a more consistent basis. Okay, maybe I 1:16:21.640 --> 1:16:24.760 would like to have more dynamic options, but I don't 1:16:24.760 --> 1:16:27.480 have any problem with spreading it around between Myers, Agalore 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:31.360 and born. Um. Henry has been in there now that 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:33.240 Smith was back in there, he was you know, he 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:37.040 had a a you know, a good catch and run tonight. Um. Yeah, 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:39.760 he's been by far and away, the least productive of 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:42.400 those guys. But I don't, I don't. Why do you 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:45.960 need to have one guy that that's like to me? 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:48.719 An identity isn't about we throw the ball to Edelman, 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:51.760 that's our identity. To identity, the identity of that those 1:16:51.760 --> 1:16:57.160 offenses was quick timing, passing, passing attack. The slot receiver 1:16:57.320 --> 1:17:00.080 was was a focal point. That was the identity. The 1:17:00.120 --> 1:17:04.479 identity of this offense right now is power football. That's 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:06.360 what they do. It doesn't have to be Stevenson, it 1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:09.680 doesn't have to be Harris. But you know they're going 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:11.320 to run the ball and that's how they're going to 1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:15.240 try to win. All Right, we're gonna move to while working. Oh, 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:17.320 we're gonna go back to Atlanta where the game was 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:21.200 played tonight, the Patriots twenty five nothing win over the 1:17:21.240 --> 1:17:25.880 Falcons in Atlanta in front of a lot of Patriots fans. Jordan, 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:27.600 were you one of those fans? Did you go to 1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:33.320 the game? Jordan? Absolutely, guys, absolutely nice. The last time 1:17:33.320 --> 1:17:36.880 I called into the show, I was actually in Fox Throne. 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:41.200 We played the Dolphins in the final game of the 1:17:41.200 --> 1:17:45.599 twenty nineteenth season, and I said the safety struggled against 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:48.680 tight ends in that game, Jessecki won back in the 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:52.799 end zone whatever that catch was. We played phenomenal against 1:17:52.880 --> 1:17:55.960 not only Pitts but everybody they brought in. And Matthew 1:17:56.040 --> 1:17:58.360 Judon might be the best thing since Plice Bread. I 1:17:58.400 --> 1:18:01.479 want to hear you guys thoughts. Yeah, I agree. We were. 1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:04.559 We were in loving him all season long, and ten 1:18:04.600 --> 1:18:06.240 and a half sacks the career high for him, so 1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:08.760 clearly he is, uh you know, having just as good 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:11.320 at a time as we are watching him play. All right, 1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:13.800 we're gonna step aside here. We are going to continue 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:17.000 with more of your phone calls here and emails send 1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:19.200 them to web radio at Patriots dot com. We'll get 1:18:19.200 --> 1:18:22.439 to him here as the Patriots postgame show continues here 1:18:22.479 --> 1:18:26.080 if you want more of that last second interception that 1:18:26.240 --> 1:18:29.240 you keep thinking about and replaying in your head. 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Pat's 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:50.120 got the wind, sustained no injuries, and now I have 1:20:50.200 --> 1:20:53.800 a weekend off to prepare for the Titans mission. Accomplished 1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:57.320 two observations, he says. I thought Myers gained a first 1:20:57.360 --> 1:20:58.880 down at the end of the first half on a 1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:02.160 third downplay, but they him short. I believe Myers landed 1:21:02.240 --> 1:21:04.400 on the defender and then rolled forward for the yard 1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:06.479 to gain. Should have been reviewed in the booths. Instead, 1:21:06.520 --> 1:21:09.040 the Pats settled for three points if it was the 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:11.519 first down. Pats had a time out to use the 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:13.519 twenty three seconds left for a couple of shots at 1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:15.200 the end zone. Do you remember that play? That was 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:18.920 the clock management that I talked about, and I actually 1:21:19.000 --> 1:21:21.519 mentioned that it was close and I think the Patriots 1:21:21.560 --> 1:21:24.160 may have been looking for a measurement there, Okay, Um, 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:28.439 I don't remember the Myers it was close measurement. They 1:21:28.520 --> 1:21:31.719 never showed a replay. Sometimes when you see slow motion, 1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:34.160 you can see that he actually caught it beyond the 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:38.920 line and then came back. Um. But it was. It 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:41.800 was definitely close. I thought that there was a chance 1:21:41.880 --> 1:21:44.959 for a measurement there. Yeah. He also says, my entertainment 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:49.000 highlight was Trent Brown pulling and sprinting at some corner 1:21:49.920 --> 1:21:55.519 and turning was setting a record on the back pedal 1:21:55.640 --> 1:21:58.679 for good reason. Yeah, we were talking about Trent Brown 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:02.759 just as the game started, and just the sheer size 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:07.519 of the man. It's just in a game of huge men, 1:22:08.360 --> 1:22:13.000 he's so big. He's just we compared it in Hardy 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:16.880 had the perfect comparison. It was Michael Or in Blindside 1:22:16.960 --> 1:22:20.280 that the actor who played Michael Or right, not Michael 1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:24.880 Or as a pro with Baltimore, that the actor who 1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:27.360 played him in the movie was so much bigger than 1:22:27.400 --> 1:22:30.080 everybody else in the movie. That's what That's what Trent 1:22:30.200 --> 1:22:35.120 Brown looks like in the NFL yield. Oh that's great, 1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:37.599 all right, Colin in the Bay Area. You are next 1:22:37.680 --> 1:22:47.160 up Patriots postgame Show presented by Cyber Reason. What's up, Colin? Colin? Oh, yeah, 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:50.320 go ahead and there you are. What's up? Hey, guys, 1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:52.720 I just wanted to say one thing. I thought it 1:22:52.840 --> 1:22:55.160 was like a great defensive game for sure, but when 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:58.519 we were down, we were up sixt nothing back through 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:06.680 the interception either, any of your thirteen nothing when that happened. Yeah, 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:09.559 they're just nothing when he threw that interception. Anybody worried 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:13.360 when I thought, like maybe a change the momentum. Yeah, 1:23:13.600 --> 1:23:16.720 I'm always worried. Okay, so Mike is always worried and 1:23:16.800 --> 1:23:19.599 I and I kind of never am so hardy. How 1:23:19.640 --> 1:23:22.120 did you feel? I was right in the middle. I thought, 1:23:22.160 --> 1:23:24.760 you know, what they score here, and what it's it 1:23:24.880 --> 1:23:28.000 becomes interesting all over again. Now there was nothing to 1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:30.759 indicate that Atlanta was going to be able to finish 1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:35.200 that off, and you know, sure enough they they did not. 1:23:35.880 --> 1:23:39.840 But yeah, as as we're sitting here and Paul Paul 1:23:39.920 --> 1:23:42.640 knows if they Paul knows, if they score there, then 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:45.320 I would say, yes, game on, thirteen seven, Game on. 1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:47.320 But you still had givens. I just didn't think there 1:23:47.400 --> 1:23:49.240 was any chance they would have score. I was watching 1:23:49.280 --> 1:23:51.240 the rest of the game. I know, I know you are, 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:53.280 but I just think, all right, well, maybe you know, 1:23:53.320 --> 1:23:55.799 maybe they're gonna feel something, or maybe they're gonna get sparked. 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:59.439 It's just no, technically, you guys are right. What do 1:23:59.439 --> 1:24:02.200 you guys think about Matt Ryan I think he's very good. 1:24:02.360 --> 1:24:04.840 I think he's very good too. Yes, I didn't get 1:24:04.840 --> 1:24:07.040 all the talk this week of you know, Matt Jones 1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:08.800 comp if like he was Matt Ryan. I saw a 1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:10.479 lot of that going around. Think, of course, I mean 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:13.280 he's been a ten year excellent NFL starter. I mean, 1:24:13.479 --> 1:24:17.240 you gotta throw out the specifics of out there by 1:24:17.360 --> 1:24:21.280 himself tonight. Okay, so he just hit Kyle Pitts, that's it. Yeah, 1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:23.800 he just doesn't have anything else. He doesn't have a 1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:28.040 suitable offensive line, they don't have a running game. People 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:31.160 are always like, well, you know, he's had great weapons 1:24:31.200 --> 1:24:33.439 in the past. Yeah, and he won an MVP when 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:35.120 he did that, and he went to the Super Bowl. 1:24:35.560 --> 1:24:38.360 You know. And I'm not saying that he's the greatest player. 1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:40.760 You know, I never have thought of him as one 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:43.920 of the best quarterbacks in the league. But I've always 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:46.880 I've always thought of him as a pretty good player. Yeah, 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:49.920 if Matt Jones could achieve that level of play consistently 1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:53.240 for a decade, like sign me up right now, Bill 1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:55.679 and Bowseman says, Nick Folks put on the good list 1:24:55.760 --> 1:24:58.560 before the game and probably probably lives up to it 1:24:59.240 --> 1:25:01.400 as soon as he kicked that first field goal, he knew. Yeah, 1:25:01.479 --> 1:25:03.160 he was in also on the good list. The whole 1:25:03.240 --> 1:25:06.320 defense again, especially Kyle Van Noi, we had all of that. 1:25:06.680 --> 1:25:10.600 Uh so thank you. We are in lockstep. We'll go 1:25:10.840 --> 1:25:13.960 to Atlanta once again. Brandon is in Atlanta on the 1:25:14.000 --> 1:25:22.160 Patriots post game Brandon Atlanta presented by Cyberries and High Brandon. Hey. So, yeah, 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:25.240 I just got home from that Patriots home game. That 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:29.640 was just a total total domination. And I mean we 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:32.280 were already like seventy thirty when we got there, but 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:36.320 you know when it was like nineteen or what was it, yeah, 1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:39.960 nineteen nothing. It was really all Patriots sans then because 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:42.760 the thousand fans were just like, yeah, we've seen this before, 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:46.160 We're gone. But um, yeah it was it was. This 1:25:46.400 --> 1:25:48.639 was literally the greatest night of my life. Because one, 1:25:49.360 --> 1:25:52.280 I've been a Patriots fans for twenty plus years and 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:54.560 I've lived in Atlanta for twenty plus years, so I 1:25:55.240 --> 1:25:57.040 rarely had a chance to see him, and this was 1:25:57.120 --> 1:25:59.360 my first time to see him. I had an amazing 1:25:59.520 --> 1:26:03.839 seat and yeah, I'm just it just was the greatest, 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:06.720 greatest night of my life, hands down. Wow. I do 1:26:06.920 --> 1:26:11.040 have a question though, Um, the last time we've lost 1:26:11.520 --> 1:26:14.000 was the Dallas and we and our defense looked terrible. 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:18.080 Is it that we fit things or was that just 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:22.040 an anomaly? M that's the question find out. I think 1:26:22.080 --> 1:26:24.400 that's the question right there. I mean, that's an awesome 1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:26.559 offense that had a bunch of weapons that could spread 1:26:26.600 --> 1:26:28.439 you out. I mean, look at how the game ended 1:26:28.479 --> 1:26:31.080 with you know, Mills trying to cover CD Lamb. I 1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:33.200 mean that you know those are they played that kind 1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:35.760 of offense since Mike, Mike broke it all down. Yeah, 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:39.360 you know, let's let's talk after you know, after Buffalo 1:26:39.479 --> 1:26:42.280 with Sanders and you know, all of their their weapons 1:26:42.360 --> 1:26:44.559 beastly and digs and that's I mean, that's the best 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:47.320 part is you really don't see those kinds of offenses 1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:49.640 because Tennessee is a really really good team, but they 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:51.720 don't have that kind of offense, no nothing, And and 1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:53.640 the Cults are a pretty good team, they don't have 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.479 that kind of offense. It's it's you know, it's just 1:26:56.680 --> 1:26:59.800 Buffalo and really Buffaloes well one dimensional. They don't run 1:26:59.840 --> 1:27:02.639 the right and I mean just you know, I'm seeing 1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:04.720 right now playoff seating if it were to happen right now, 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:08.960 you're going to Kansas City week one, So you know, Brandon, 1:27:09.000 --> 1:27:10.640 I'm glad you had a great night. Not want me 1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:15.439 to focus on that. Well, that's the two part article 1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:18.439 will do. It's more of an off airy conversation. Stefan 1:27:18.520 --> 1:27:22.240 in Germany says, a typical sloppy Thursday night game, but 1:27:22.320 --> 1:27:24.920 the win is the thing, and Mac was better than 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:29.439 Matt Ryan. Yeah tonight. Yeah, running game. He had a 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:31.760 running game, and he had some receivers that caught his pass. 1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:33.960 But it's it's funny for it as bad as that 1:27:34.080 --> 1:27:36.720 game was from Atlanta. I didn't think Matt Ryan was 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:39.840 terrible tonight. I think he plays for a terrible team. Yeah, 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:41.920 I thought he made one bad throw. That was the 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:46.040 throw that went off of Zakius's hands right to J. C. 1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:48.880 Jackson for the pick. He said the offense didn't fire 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:52.800 on all cylinders. Again, maybe a point of contention for Paul, 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:57.960 but the defense pitched to shut out with four picks. 1:27:58.040 --> 1:27:59.800 What more can you ask And this is maybe the 1:27:59.800 --> 1:28:01.640 best point. What more can you ask for from a 1:28:01.760 --> 1:28:05.599 rookie led team on a short week And I think 1:28:05.680 --> 1:28:09.360 that's the main takeaway. Absolutely, I have nothing to you 1:28:09.439 --> 1:28:11.120 thought I would argue with that. I think you would 1:28:11.200 --> 1:28:13.680 argue with whether or not the offense is firing on 1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:17.760 all cylinders, which not tonight, but the last game they did. Yeah, 1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:20.760 and but four for twelve and third down, that to 1:28:20.880 --> 1:28:24.000 me was like the epitome of Thursday Night I Tuesday 1:28:24.080 --> 1:28:26.439 Night football at its worst. I think where you and 1:28:26.520 --> 1:28:29.320 I disagree is how much room there is for the 1:28:29.439 --> 1:28:32.840 offense to get better. I think they've got a little 1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:35.880 higher ceiling maybe than you do. Yeah, probably that's it. 1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:39.080 And it comes down well, and I don't know what. 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:41.400 I don't know what does thinks because it's offense and 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:44.600 he doesn't really care pay attention during that. But it 1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:47.240 does feel to me right now kind of not as 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.960 extreme as the preseason ending, but it feels like this 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:51.920 was kind of the first act of this season and 1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:53.720 we saw, all right, they've got a good team, they 1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:57.040 can play, they're tough. You know, you've gotten the pieces 1:28:57.080 --> 1:28:59.760 to come together. And now over these next four games, 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.160 really gonna find out who it is was their ceiling. 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:04.559 You know, how good is this defense against some more 1:29:04.720 --> 1:29:07.240 very type offenses. Certainly they're gonna need to stop the run, 1:29:07.760 --> 1:29:09.800 uh here in these in these next four games that 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:11.400 that's a huge part and that could get them two 1:29:11.439 --> 1:29:14.439 out of four wins. Just being good against the run. Um, 1:29:14.920 --> 1:29:17.160 you know, stop Tennessee take that out of their game 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.080 as well as you know Jonathan Taylor at Indy who's 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:22.519 awesome too. So still part of it. But here it 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:24.280 comes like these four games, this is it, you know, 1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:28.200 this is what the real season play. Christ and Orlando. 1:29:28.439 --> 1:29:31.679 Hello Chris, Welcome into the Patriots post game Show presented 1:29:31.720 --> 1:29:36.920 by Cyber Reason. Hi Chris, how are you guys? Big band? 1:29:37.400 --> 1:29:40.160 Um just got a couple cool questions here for you guys. 1:29:40.240 --> 1:29:43.719 Just one of your thoughts. Um, So, when the Falcons 1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:46.320 got down, you know, in the red zone and they were, 1:29:46.520 --> 1:29:48.200 you know, seemed like they were moving the ball. I 1:29:48.439 --> 1:29:50.800 was at the game, um, Leaven Atlanta, Now I'm just 1:29:50.920 --> 1:29:55.320 from Orlando. That's what I put. If they kicked field goal, 1:29:55.400 --> 1:29:57.200 they make it, How does that change the game If 1:29:57.240 --> 1:30:00.599 they don't get that, you know, illegal formation that changed 1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:02.599 the game in any aspect? Do they do they get 1:30:02.600 --> 1:30:05.280 any momentum there? And how do you think the Patriots 1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:08.600 would have bounced back? I think I don't. I don't know. 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:11.160 If I want to give him enough it changed. It 1:30:11.479 --> 1:30:13.600 does change the game, and that the next time they 1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:16.160 get down there and it's fourth thound, they can kick 1:30:16.200 --> 1:30:19.320 a field goal and make it thirteen six, and you know, 1:30:19.840 --> 1:30:22.439 maybe maybe the game is still on at that point. 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:25.360 You miss the first one, and then the second time 1:30:25.400 --> 1:30:27.320 you get down there, you can't you can't kick a 1:30:27.360 --> 1:30:28.920 field have to go for it on fourth You have 1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:31.600 to go for it on fourth thound. So okay, I 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:34.599 think the game I quite honestly, I think they probably 1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:38.639 win the game nineteen to six. If that happens. I'm 1:30:38.640 --> 1:30:41.519 not gonna, you know, presume that all the interceptions happen. 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:46.160 But all right, and I hear I hear all this 1:30:46.280 --> 1:30:49.479 talk about Jude On and whatnot. I personally, when we 1:30:49.600 --> 1:30:53.479 signed him, I thought he was overpaid. Um, but what 1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:55.200 what do you guys have thought? Do you guys think 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:58.960 he's overperformed or or how do you guys think he's 1:30:59.000 --> 1:31:02.160 performed this year? I will be the first to admit 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:05.760 I was not a Matthew Judon expert before he joined 1:31:05.760 --> 1:31:07.680 the team. I knew he was a good player, and 1:31:07.840 --> 1:31:11.120 I knew him from you know, highlights. Essentially, I think 1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:16.720 it's worth every penny that he's getting paid, and I 1:31:16.880 --> 1:31:19.680 guess he. I would have to say he exceeded my 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:23.160 expectations too, because at no point in the preseason did 1:31:23.240 --> 1:31:24.920 I say, you know, the guy that we're going to 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:28.559 end up talking about more often than not after games 1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:31.439 through eleven weeks. As Matthew Judon, No, I would not 1:31:31.520 --> 1:31:32.920 have said, I'll tell you what I would have said. 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:37.280 I would have said Pro Football Focus told us that 1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:40.400 it was the worst free agent signing, and he wasn't, 1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:44.960 you know, he was one of the lowest rated, you know, 1:31:45.080 --> 1:31:46.599 and all the things that he did, and I kind 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:49.880 of I don't know why, because I so often mocked 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:51.840 and ridicule that stuff, and I don't know why I 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:54.519 put so much stock into it, but I was worried 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:56.920 that he was going to be a bust and I 1:31:57.080 --> 1:31:58.960 was wrong. I don't I don't ever really remember him 1:31:59.000 --> 1:32:01.679 being a big factor against the Patriots and in games 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:03.720 they played against Baltimore, Like I don't. I mean, I 1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:06.560 just I watched a lot of Baltimore games and he 1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:09.439 always was sort of he's on the Ravens like I, 1:32:10.240 --> 1:32:13.320 you know, Marlon Humphrey. Every time I I saw Baltimore 1:32:13.360 --> 1:32:16.439 play was making place. Yeah, you know, I never really 1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:19.880 remember Matthew Jude. I always thought he was sort of 1:32:19.960 --> 1:32:23.679 a real workman, like set the edge, physical guy, which 1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:26.400 is exactly what he's been. Yeah. Yeah for the Patriots. 1:32:27.000 --> 1:32:30.800 Uh to Rob in Australia, we go, Hello, Rob, thanks 1:32:30.840 --> 1:32:36.679 for calling into the post game show. What's up? Boys are? Yeah? Good? Good? 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:40.759 I just wanted to do I'm sure you get the artire. 1:32:40.760 --> 1:32:43.320 I wanted to make one comment, ask a couple of 1:32:43.360 --> 1:32:46.320 stupid questions. The first coment I wanted to make would 1:32:46.960 --> 1:32:49.400 come to the right place. I think, who's that guy 1:32:49.479 --> 1:32:51.680 Brandon Oregon? Because I think he's the only one who 1:32:51.720 --> 1:32:55.479 predicted a shutout in this in this game? Um, I 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:59.400 didn't see that coming. And then the questions I wanted 1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:02.320 to ask you guys, I'll take these off the air. So, 1:33:02.760 --> 1:33:06.439 Paul and Mike, which Patriots uniform of all times would 1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:10.439 you pair with Matthew Jude on red sleeve? Oh? And 1:33:10.600 --> 1:33:13.759 then Hardy a question for you, Yeah, which is worse? 1:33:14.080 --> 1:33:17.640 Grown Ups one or Grown Ups two? I will I 1:33:17.800 --> 1:33:21.280 will two is really abysmal. Yeah, well I'll take the 1:33:21.360 --> 1:33:25.960 second question first, Rob, Grown Ups two is worse because 1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:29.479 they thought it could be saved by a Shaquille O'Neil cameo. 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:31.760 It's like, you know what we'll do. We'll dress him 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:34.800 up as a cop and we'll have him dance. And again, 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:37.519 that's just the sign of any bad movie. Let's let's 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:40.599 throw in a random dance scene here where the character dances, 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:43.040 and again, it's funny. It's funny. We're all laughing here 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:45.320 on this set, the camera guys laughing, we're all laughing. 1:33:45.920 --> 1:33:47.800 It's not funny to anyone else. It may have been 1:33:47.840 --> 1:33:49.680 funny to you guys when you were shooting it, but 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:52.640 you really weren't concerned with what the product was going 1:33:52.680 --> 1:33:54.799 to be. It's a it's a it's a bad product. 1:33:55.240 --> 1:33:58.800 And what makes it really truly criminal is that all 1:33:58.880 --> 1:34:02.200 guys involved with it are capable of being funny on 1:34:02.320 --> 1:34:06.240 their own, whether it's Sandler or David Spade, any of them. 1:34:06.280 --> 1:34:09.080 Don't say Rob Schneider and no, yeah, I don't the worst. Yeah, 1:34:09.160 --> 1:34:12.960 he's well, that's another that's another deuce, Hollywood tip. Rob 1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:15.920 Schneider is the worst. Wow. Yeah, but take that one 1:34:15.960 --> 1:34:18.759 to your friends there in Australia. All right, thanks buddy. 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:21.000 Oh did you want to hang on for their uniform answer? 1:34:21.080 --> 1:34:23.760 Hold on do you have a uniform answer? Yeah, my, 1:34:24.080 --> 1:34:26.040 I mean I think I've talked about this. The late 1:34:26.120 --> 1:34:29.360 seventies uniforms are my favorites. What about like the white ones. Yeah, 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:31.400 the white ones with those red sleeves would be perfect. 1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:36.720 Hot hot, yeah, hot stuff, nineteen seventy eight uniforms. I'll 1:34:36.800 --> 1:34:39.200 google that one. Now. Hey, you boys be safe driving home, 1:34:40.160 --> 1:34:42.400 will you do? One? Also bugs me too about the 1:34:42.439 --> 1:34:46.120 whole grown ups thing is that Sandler has to portray 1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:49.800 himself as the most successful guy with the hot life, 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:53.160 and then his friends are are, for the most part, 1:34:53.320 --> 1:34:56.160 a bunch of jerks who, you know, lie about how 1:34:56.280 --> 1:34:59.320 much money they have or they've got the you know, 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:03.320 the ugly wives or whatever. It's like, it's so up 1:35:03.439 --> 1:35:06.000 and they just got they just show they just show 1:35:06.120 --> 1:35:08.120 up and do it anyway. Yeah, yeah, I'll play that 1:35:08.240 --> 1:35:10.439 guy because it's kind of like that in real life, right, 1:35:10.520 --> 1:35:14.280 Buddy's writ write Spike sad you said it. It sounds 1:35:14.320 --> 1:35:16.080 like the straight man. I've never seen his movies. Stand 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:17.880 there's like the straight guy then in the movie and 1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:21.920 everybody else of the wacky kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, 1:35:22.680 --> 1:35:25.559 they're all kind of they're all childhood friends and then 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:27.800 they go off and they do their own things, and 1:35:29.240 --> 1:35:32.800 Hardy nails it like he's the successful agent and he's rich. 1:35:32.880 --> 1:35:36.640 And his wife is sal Mahayak, who was gorgeous and 1:35:37.120 --> 1:35:42.439 she's a very successful like designer, designer. Yeah, and all 1:35:42.479 --> 1:35:45.040 the other friends and Kevin James lies about how much 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.599 money has and rents a Cadillac to make everyone else 1:35:47.680 --> 1:35:50.120 think that he's doing well. Right, you know, I'm gonna 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:52.439 rent it tonight. I'm gonna watch it. Isn't Maria Bellows 1:35:52.520 --> 1:35:54.840 his wife though, isn't she She's not bad? My god? 1:35:55.479 --> 1:35:58.160 Uh no, I don't know, but this is no, it's ridiculous. 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:01.439 And Chris Rock is married to my Rudolph. Also my 1:36:01.720 --> 1:36:06.080 Rudolph sign of comedy desperation anytime she shows up and 1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:09.400 starts mugging for the camera. Not funny, not funny, I agree, 1:36:09.640 --> 1:36:15.400 not funny. Don't worry. Nobody's listening anyway. He how dare 1:36:15.479 --> 1:36:18.439 you that's a little hurtful. We're doing a comprehensive breakdown 1:36:18.479 --> 1:36:21.080 in the movie Grown Ups because the caller asked us 1:36:21.160 --> 1:36:24.000 to do it, and jes so, you know, we may 1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:27.120 have broken a postgame record for phone calls tonight, despite 1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:29.400 the fact that we played in primetime on a Thursday, 1:36:29.520 --> 1:36:33.040 a shutout game, not a great football game on a 1:36:33.120 --> 1:36:35.360 Thursday night, and we took more calls tonight than in 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:38.000 any post game in recently. Think we primed it with 1:36:38.120 --> 1:36:40.280 the pre show. We're talking about grown ups, and then 1:36:40.320 --> 1:36:42.040 you know, we just carried that momentum right through the 1:36:42.120 --> 1:36:44.240 game and now we're here in the postgame and nothing 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:46.200 premise has to be a big deal. But the fact 1:36:46.240 --> 1:36:49.120 that these guys are all reuniting because a guy who 1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:51.439 coached them when they were ten years old for a 1:36:51.600 --> 1:36:55.280 summer camp basketball team has just, you know, fords, this 1:36:55.520 --> 1:36:59.280 bond between these guys, yeah, Styler alert and they all 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:03.000 come back to other friends like, hey, Deuce, who what 1:37:03.240 --> 1:37:06.360 was the name of your basketball coach at summer camp 1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:09.040 when you were ten years old? Mister san Sony, Oh 1:37:09.200 --> 1:37:12.519 shut up, that's not a true thing. Seventh grade cyo, 1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:15.560 not seventh gradest, not ten years old. I didn't go 1:37:15.680 --> 1:37:18.160 to camp. Well, I was thirteen. But see why if 1:37:18.200 --> 1:37:26.160 he died, would you go would you go visit Christian organization? Yeah? No? Yeah? 1:37:26.600 --> 1:37:28.080 Was my religion not good enough for you? I had 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:31.200 the Boys and Girls club? Huh? I was a flag 1:37:31.240 --> 1:37:35.240 football champish right here, that's right, the Auburn Heights Boys 1:37:35.280 --> 1:37:37.519 and Girls Club before they got all Schmancy went to 1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:40.640 Auburn Hills. They changed the name of the town. They 1:37:40.720 --> 1:37:43.800 changed the town for the when they put the palace in. Yeah, 1:37:43.840 --> 1:37:47.600 it's true. It was Auburn Heights. Oh wow, there you go. 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:55.200 Can we be done? We got ten minutes? Okay to 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:58.840 eleven minutes? All right, So Patriots, I would like to say, 1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:02.519 so football, I would like to see a Harris and 1:38:02.800 --> 1:38:05.800 Stevenson in the formation at the same time. It's been 1:38:05.840 --> 1:38:08.639 a while since they ran that formation with the running backs. 1:38:09.080 --> 1:38:12.240 Your thoughts dual running back thoughts from David? What are 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:15.200 your thoughts? I kind of like the way Yacob Johnson 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:18.599 was blocking tonight the yak with his Crimson Tide colored 1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:23.160 hair he was blocking. Well, yeah, there's always infatuation with 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:25.599 the two running back sets with you know, red, Rex 1:38:25.720 --> 1:38:28.160 and White was one and stop it right there. You 1:38:28.200 --> 1:38:31.400 could say there's always an infatuation with yeah, whatever they're 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:36.240 not doing. Yeah, there's always jo infatuation with whatever they're 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:39.960 not doing currently. Yeah, yeah, but what if it's been great? 1:38:40.040 --> 1:38:41.880 But what if they did what if they got John W. 1:38:42.040 --> 1:38:45.560 Smith like Hudre Henry has seven touchdowns? Yeah, like what 1:38:45.680 --> 1:38:49.559 if we had Jonah Smith, like, you'd have another guy 1:38:49.680 --> 1:38:54.560 like I'm glad you brought up Yacob Johnson. Um, he 1:38:54.760 --> 1:38:58.840 was good tonight the valarious they kept profiling him, Yes, 1:38:59.000 --> 1:39:01.040 and Troy was talking about about some of the blocks 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:03.160 he was making at the point of attack. Fullback talk, 1:39:03.320 --> 1:39:06.280 let's go. Uh. Valerians starts off by saying, thank you. 1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:08.400 You convinced me to get a Thorogin mini from my 1:39:08.520 --> 1:39:11.080 parents for Christmas. That would make a good gift. It is, 1:39:11.240 --> 1:39:14.960 it's it's quality and yeah. Um. But as for the game, 1:39:15.000 --> 1:39:18.680 I'd say that Yakub Johnson was sneaky good. Uh. He 1:39:18.840 --> 1:39:21.880 was blowing up defenders all game. Commentators at least were 1:39:22.000 --> 1:39:25.400 gushing over his blocking as you just said, and I'd 1:39:25.479 --> 1:39:27.960 have to agree with him. Definitely worth consideration for the 1:39:28.000 --> 1:39:30.960 Good List. Should we put him on a late ad? Yeah, 1:39:31.439 --> 1:39:35.439 late ad? Everybody hug a cop. Yeah, I said it. 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:43.479 I got him with the one. What about Jacobean? I 1:39:43.560 --> 1:39:45.599 thought Jakobe had a pretty good game too. He can 1:39:45.680 --> 1:39:48.160 tease you know, It's it's not a lot of volume 1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:49.840 like it was kind of early, but but I think 1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:52.479 he continues to come up with with some key plays. Uh, 1:39:52.720 --> 1:39:54.120 I don't think you might have had that first down, 1:39:54.200 --> 1:39:56.400 but you know, it just it goes back to the 1:39:56.439 --> 1:39:58.240 other caller too, of like, you know, do you really 1:39:58.320 --> 1:40:02.080 want somebody to obviously keeling? Like does that? Does that 1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:04.800 make your offense good? I feel like, well, I think 1:40:04.840 --> 1:40:07.920 it makes everybody else better when you have that guy. 1:40:08.479 --> 1:40:11.600 So I'm not saying I don't want that guy, but 1:40:11.680 --> 1:40:15.040 if you got somebody pulling coverage and pulling yeah yeah 1:40:15.280 --> 1:40:19.080 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, it marked 1:40:19.120 --> 1:40:20.800 it real good Born And what was up with Born 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:22.519 going down? Like, I just gotta bring that up when 1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:25.040 last time since where I like there were two times 1:40:25.600 --> 1:40:27.600 he could have easily gone one more yard it just 1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:30.120 picked up the first down and didn't. I don't know, 1:40:30.200 --> 1:40:32.080 It's just I love the guy. I love what he's 1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:33.800 been doing, but I just I hate those little plays 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:35.720 where it's like, well, one of the times that he 1:40:36.120 --> 1:40:38.000 may have taken him out of bounds and he was 1:40:38.040 --> 1:40:42.360 trying to stay in bounds. But as uh Paul pointed out, 1:40:42.439 --> 1:40:45.080 and actually I think Aikman pointed out pretty quickly too, 1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:48.639 actually You know what, even if you got to bounds, 1:40:48.680 --> 1:40:51.000 but you pick up the first down as you're going out, 1:40:51.520 --> 1:40:54.320 you accomplished the same thing. You win the game. And 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:56.840 they ended up not getting the first down. Yeah, right, 1:40:57.040 --> 1:40:59.160 then they didn't get the first down on third down. 1:41:00.400 --> 1:41:03.479 So it's um, Now it didn't matter because it was 1:41:03.520 --> 1:41:05.439 sixteen to nothing at the time, so the game was 1:41:05.520 --> 1:41:10.440 over anyway. But very nitpicky. Yeah, um, how many? Unfortunately 1:41:10.560 --> 1:41:12.760 the score has happened ten times in the past. The 1:41:12.880 --> 1:41:15.320 twenty five to nothing, we knew that, But Eric wants 1:41:15.360 --> 1:41:18.840 to know how many times has a backup quarterback come 1:41:18.880 --> 1:41:21.280 out thrown a pick and then on the next play 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:26.519 the third string guy comes in? And what's that? It 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:29.439 hasn't happened since two thousand with three different quarterbacks in 1:41:29.520 --> 1:41:31.200 the same team threw a pick in the same game, 1:41:31.400 --> 1:41:34.800 but on consecutive plays pick and then the next guy 1:41:34.880 --> 1:41:38.560 comes out. That's another whole level of it. Well, I 1:41:38.920 --> 1:41:41.519 get into it. I'm not sure you got your typewriter, 1:41:41.640 --> 1:41:46.519 television true research. This just this juncture. You have to 1:41:47.120 --> 1:41:51.080 use the Google machine. Let's go uh to West Virginia. 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.920 Tim says, it's time to go home. God, I wish 1:41:53.960 --> 1:41:55.960 that were true, Tim, Tim, what do you know that 1:41:56.000 --> 1:41:59.960 we don't. No, you guys just spent way too much time. 1:42:00.000 --> 1:42:05.679 I'm talking about grown ups too. Make sure you're alert 1:42:05.760 --> 1:42:08.000 for your drive home. Thank god, all right, thank you. 1:42:08.200 --> 1:42:11.960 Wow that's good hit and run. I like that. Oh Man, 1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:14.439 funds are worried about us. Yeah, well Paul's just walking 1:42:14.680 --> 1:42:17.519 walking around the corner to the hotel. Yeah, that's how 1:42:17.560 --> 1:42:20.400 Paul's got the shortest drive to for once tonight, I'm 1:42:20.439 --> 1:42:25.479 staying on campus Andrew in Hawaii, Hello Andrew. Hey, gentlemen, 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:29.360 how are we doing very good than exhausted. I'll be 1:42:29.479 --> 1:42:31.000 quick here so you guys can get out of there 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:34.439 and head home. But I gotta call Paul out real quick. Yeah. 1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:36.800 I'm a big fan of the show. During the week, 1:42:37.000 --> 1:42:39.479 Peu and I heard Paul make the comment that JC 1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:43.519 Jackson's kind of just another cornerback. I did not say that, Paul. 1:42:43.600 --> 1:42:46.599 You made the statement that we can find a J. C. Jackson. 1:42:46.640 --> 1:42:49.560 Oh yeah, you can't. But I didn't say he's a 1:42:49.680 --> 1:42:54.320 jack interception through fifty six games, he's allowed two catches 1:42:54.360 --> 1:42:56.519 over the last three games. To me, we gotta resign 1:42:56.600 --> 1:42:59.439 this guy. He doesn't grow on tre so okay, let 1:42:59.600 --> 1:43:01.760 let me make you could deal with you then if 1:43:01.840 --> 1:43:03.680 they don't resign him, I want you to call up 1:43:03.720 --> 1:43:07.599 and rip Bill Belichick. Can you do that? That's not true? 1:43:07.720 --> 1:43:09.479 But I think there's a middle ground where you got 1:43:09.600 --> 1:43:12.800 to admit jac Jackson is a number one cornerback and 1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:15.240 somebody we shouldn't just let walk. I don't think he's 1:43:15.360 --> 1:43:19.519 number one cornerback. I don't. I don't. I don't think 1:43:19.520 --> 1:43:23.120 he's number one cornerback. The number is kind of back 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:26.360 up that tap though. He's locked down opponent's number one 1:43:26.439 --> 1:43:28.760 receivers and he's made Please who do you lock down tonight? 1:43:31.640 --> 1:43:35.240 Who was the number one receiver he locked down tonight? Yes? 1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:37.760 I mean against the Falcons. You can't really say that, 1:43:37.920 --> 1:43:39.920 but you got to feel good about J. C. Jackson 1:43:39.960 --> 1:43:43.280 and his matchup going into every game and without him, really, 1:43:43.520 --> 1:43:45.800 at that point, who do we have? So to me? Oh, 1:43:45.880 --> 1:43:49.200 but those are different arguments. I just want I want 1:43:49.240 --> 1:43:51.960 to see. I'm gonna stay my my point up front, 1:43:52.000 --> 1:43:53.880 but if I don't wait for it to happen before 1:43:53.920 --> 1:43:56.080 I stay my point, I want you to tell me 1:43:56.200 --> 1:43:59.160 that you will call up and rip Bill Belichick if 1:43:59.200 --> 1:44:02.479 he doesn't resign him, I will rip him if they 1:44:02.560 --> 1:44:05.200 let him walk at a reasonable price. Obviously, I know 1:44:05.280 --> 1:44:07.360 Bill's not going to overpay for a guy, Okay, so 1:44:08.080 --> 1:44:11.160 I'm gonna okay, So I want also up front, I 1:44:11.280 --> 1:44:14.880 want to know what overpay is. What is overpaying him 1:44:14.880 --> 1:44:17.519 if he's a number one corner, If he's a number 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:19.840 one corner, like you say, that's twenty million a year, yeah, 1:44:20.640 --> 1:44:23.800 eight twenty million. They got twenty four million cap space 1:44:23.920 --> 1:44:27.439 next year right now. So if you if you say 1:44:27.520 --> 1:44:31.160 that he is a number one corner and Bill doesn't 1:44:31.320 --> 1:44:34.800 sign him to a deal and someone else gives him 1:44:34.840 --> 1:44:37.200 eighteen to twenty million, I want you to call up 1:44:37.200 --> 1:44:40.519 and rip him. I want you to admit that the 1:44:40.560 --> 1:44:43.280 Patriots can't sign it other JC Jackson easily in the 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:46.000 draft like you made it sound like. Especially you know, 1:44:46.200 --> 1:44:49.639 given the Patriots history trying to draft cornerbacks, we can't 1:44:49.640 --> 1:44:51.880 just let this guy. I'm not telling you that the 1:44:51.960 --> 1:44:54.000 Patriots will be able to do it. I'm saying there 1:44:54.040 --> 1:44:56.040 are a lot of guys like jac Jackson in the league. 1:44:56.200 --> 1:44:58.400 That's all I'm saying. I don't know if the Patriots 1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:00.680 are going to be able to get one. I never 1:45:00.760 --> 1:45:03.880 said that I think he's a good player. I don't 1:45:03.920 --> 1:45:08.559 think he's a great player. That's all, ok, all right, Andrew, thanks, 1:45:09.800 --> 1:45:11.920 I love you too. That was a good argument. That 1:45:12.120 --> 1:45:14.439 was that was fun. That was that was everybody was 1:45:14.479 --> 1:45:16.479 on their good behavior, and that was not too tired 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:18.120 to really get into it with my heart. But he 1:45:18.200 --> 1:45:20.599 still has he still has the six shooter though he's 1:45:20.600 --> 1:45:22.160 still even though he's a little tired, he can still 1:45:22.200 --> 1:45:25.920 pull it. But I'll say this that those are my 1:45:26.000 --> 1:45:29.000 two things. When Bill doesn't do it, I want you 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:32.240 to rip him. And when the Patriots beat Buffalo, I 1:45:32.360 --> 1:45:34.160 want you to say it was a nothing win because 1:45:34.240 --> 1:45:39.320 Buffalo sucks. This this is a preview of every show 1:45:39.360 --> 1:45:41.680 in early February right here. This is what we're This 1:45:41.840 --> 1:45:44.200 is exactly what's going to be happening on your show too. 1:45:44.520 --> 1:45:47.680 Buffalo sucks. Everybody tells me. Bill Simmons has told me 1:45:47.840 --> 1:45:51.160 for a week that the Bills stink. So when the 1:45:51.240 --> 1:45:54.840 Patriots beat them, I don't want to hear people peacock 1:45:55.160 --> 1:45:58.320 about the Patriots and how great that win is because 1:45:58.360 --> 1:46:01.439 the Bills stink. Okay, that's what you tell me. I 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:04.320 know I over here will tell you if the Patriots 1:46:04.360 --> 1:46:06.880 beat Buffalo. I will be very impressed if they go 1:46:06.960 --> 1:46:09.080 out and beat Buffalo, because I think Buffalo is a 1:46:09.120 --> 1:46:13.880 pretty good team. All right, but you you are not 1:46:14.000 --> 1:46:18.960 allowed to do that, you hardy. I don't know how 1:46:19.000 --> 1:46:21.760 this turned into me getting yelled at. I'm so tired. No, 1:46:21.880 --> 1:46:24.320 if you not heard that in all, seriously, put my 1:46:24.400 --> 1:46:26.120 snark away for a second. Have you not heard that 1:46:26.160 --> 1:46:29.519 a lot the last couple of weeks. Well, I've and 1:46:30.040 --> 1:46:33.200 quite frankly, when you lose to Jacksonville nine to six, 1:46:33.920 --> 1:46:36.400 I start to question how good you are too. Okay, 1:46:37.080 --> 1:46:39.519 so then let's not give the Patriots much credit for 1:46:39.560 --> 1:46:42.000 beating a team they should beat. Then well, I don't 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:43.559 want to do that. I don't want to give him credit. 1:46:43.680 --> 1:46:46.200 I will, okay, I will give them credit because I 1:46:46.240 --> 1:46:49.880 think Buffalo is good. Okay, I think that had a 1:46:50.000 --> 1:46:52.960 terrible game. Okay, like the Patriots had a terrible game 1:46:52.960 --> 1:46:57.120 against Miami. Um, these things happen. Would your franchise jac 1:46:57.280 --> 1:47:00.439 Jackson and we've talked about it, I would not, deuce, 1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:04.840 I would not. Okay, Yeah, if I could get him 1:47:04.960 --> 1:47:08.160 to sign a deal that I'd be interested in that. 1:47:08.360 --> 1:47:11.360 But I wouldn't I wouldn't hate franchising him. I think 1:47:11.400 --> 1:47:13.719 he's gone, oh one more year if they can't figure 1:47:13.720 --> 1:47:16.000 anything else out. I could, I could see that. But again, 1:47:16.080 --> 1:47:17.640 I mean, you know, and I know these numbers are rough, 1:47:17.720 --> 1:47:19.759 but twenty four million, that's what they got in caspiece 1:47:19.840 --> 1:47:21.280 right now. They can mess with it. But you know, 1:47:21.400 --> 1:47:23.760 just a general kind of overview. Yeah, there's not a 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:26.000 lot of wiggle room next year. So is that counting 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:30.320 like all of the pending free agents being off the books? Yes? Correct, 1:47:30.479 --> 1:47:34.040 So yeah, I mean it's relative if you're taking off everybody. 1:47:34.080 --> 1:47:35.840 But still, I mean it's just it's not oh hey, 1:47:35.880 --> 1:47:37.760 we'll look, we got sixty million or like whatever it 1:47:37.840 --> 1:47:39.679 was last year where I don't care about you knew 1:47:39.720 --> 1:47:42.080 things were going to happen. Cap space is irrelevant. As 1:47:42.120 --> 1:47:45.080 you know, Hardy, this isn't the NHL that actually has 1:47:45.120 --> 1:47:47.760 a cap cap his crap. That's one thing I do 1:47:48.360 --> 1:47:50.760 agree with me. Yes, wow, oh yeah, I didn't see 1:47:50.760 --> 1:47:52.920 that coming. No camp at this too late. 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That's all right, Can we be honest? Cody 1:50:19.240 --> 1:50:21.639 and Indiana emails, And I know Paul was really high 1:50:21.640 --> 1:50:24.360 in John who Smith this past offseason, and I definitely 1:50:24.439 --> 1:50:26.560 bought into it. Having said that, though, what point do 1:50:26.680 --> 1:50:30.599 we start considering him a bust? I mean, he's better 1:50:30.640 --> 1:50:33.560 than that's a cost? Sorry, Deuce, Well, yeah, but he 1:50:33.640 --> 1:50:37.920 hasn't been great. He hasn't he hasn't provided much. Yeah, Um, 1:50:38.360 --> 1:50:40.960 just kind of waiting, continuing to wait. It's like, yeah, 1:50:41.080 --> 1:50:43.439 when what is it gonna happen? When's it gonna happen? 1:50:43.800 --> 1:50:47.160 All right? Um, this was a lot of fun tonight, gentlemen. 1:50:47.680 --> 1:50:49.880 You know love the Thursday night games. 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