WEBVTT - Episode 15 - Eric Paslay (10-17-16)

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, welcome to episode fifteen of The Bobby Cast. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you guys being here. Eric Passley is our guest. Number

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<v Speaker 1>one Song is an artist Number one Songs as a songwriter.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Passley will be our guest today. Appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 1>being here. By the way, we would not be able

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<v Speaker 1>your accent. And I heard it today, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, I was talking about meals or milk.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like I'm saying mills like my steady work

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<v Speaker 1>at a sawmill. But it's a meal. I said meal.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to speech pathology for like four years, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>all right in the house now with Eric Passy who

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<v Speaker 1>got to watch a few minutes ago me take a

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<v Speaker 1>needle to the arm. I was taking a food allergy needle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's whatever you want to call it, Bobby, that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for you knew it. So let ma explain what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the nurse was supposed to get here at five,

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<v Speaker 1>and Eric was early, which is awesome, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love someone who's early. I'm I've only

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<v Speaker 1>the early for you. So the nurse, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>those headphones right there for those on you can want

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<v Speaker 1>to play some music. In a second, the nurse shows

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<v Speaker 1>up at five, and Eric shows up at five too,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric and his wife Natalie, And now it's sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner with Dusty right now. So Dusty, for once,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not sleeping on the couch during this. So the

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<v Speaker 1>nurse starts shooting a needle into my arm. Luckily only

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<v Speaker 1>took one time, because I've passed out before. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>usually take a bunch of times? And sometimes they can't

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<v Speaker 1>find a vein that s it does and they're like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a diabetic and putting a needle in my arm

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<v Speaker 1>is still not Like that's so unnatural, like that you

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<v Speaker 1>guard that area for a good reason. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Because you were watching and you didn't care,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's drawing out blood, but your wife was staring

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<v Speaker 1>at all of the blood, and then she would cover

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<v Speaker 1>her eyes. Then she would stare again. Usually it's you

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<v Speaker 1>don't look, or you look, you don't stare, and then

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<v Speaker 1>run away and come back and her eyes with water,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, stop staring. He's gonna pass out because

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<v Speaker 1>of the look on your face. I'm doing this because

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<v Speaker 1>Amy on the show said it told her what food.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you don't know what allergies you have,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the air, and then what foods irritate your body.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would have never done this, but Amy made

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<v Speaker 1>me spend money on this thing. So, but you're here

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to shoot yourself with a needle, win Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I wear an insulin pump, so three well, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bitty it's basically like having a tiny little

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<v Speaker 1>like I V and you. I mean it's it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>like a centameter deep. It just barely goes under your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you put it a needle in with it,

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<v Speaker 1>pull the needle out, and this little just plastic tubing

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<v Speaker 1>stays under you. I put it on the butt, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's right now, it's the right yeah, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically just it's just where I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>carry around like a vial of insulin and a syringe.

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<v Speaker 1>I always have an insulin pump where it's just basically

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<v Speaker 1>like having an ivy of insulin hooked up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I eat, I can say, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>eat thirty grams of carbohydrates. I'll give myself this amount

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<v Speaker 1>of insulin, and it just it frees you up from

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<v Speaker 1>having to carry around You're just always connected. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to monitor that too? You show me a watch

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not wearing it right now, but dude, this

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So I have it's on my arm right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called x COM like CGM, and it goes straight

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<v Speaker 1>to my phone. Uh, and it tells you what like

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<v Speaker 1>your level, right, So you've showed me down at one

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<v Speaker 1>sixties seven right now, literally on my phone. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>much crazier than always having to check it because you

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<v Speaker 1>can always just tell yeah, when you perform, you keep

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<v Speaker 1>something on stage with you. Yep. We always have a

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<v Speaker 1>good old solo cup of like o J out there

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<v Speaker 1>and do you feel it if you're performing. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is my tour manager can watch this thing on

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<v Speaker 1>his phone and now he can too, which is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, just the other night we were in uh Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, dude, your bloods going just your

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<v Speaker 1>bloods going down. So he's watching this, he's watching it

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<v Speaker 1>and then just tells me my inere monitors, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>drink some more orange juice. So the crowd things I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting wasted, and they're like yeah, chuck, Chuck. I'm like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that stage and you started to really fill down. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't since I've gotten this thing as much, but

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<v Speaker 1>because we catch it before before I even feel the

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<v Speaker 1>symptoms of being low. But um, I've definitely had some

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I need some orange juice now. I mean I'll

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<v Speaker 1>like there's been times I think we're at the dusty Armadillo.

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<v Speaker 1>Once it was like anybody orange juice and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stutter a little bit like maybe they just

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm sort of wasted. Needles aren't a thing for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't care, it's nothing to you that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't like my blood being drunk. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you so. Eric Pasla decided to hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>us uh today on episode fifteen of The Bobby Cast,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, we appreciate that. We a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to start with right now. We like

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<v Speaker 1>to make a circle and start with exactly what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and then kind of back up and they

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<v Speaker 1>come back to now. So right now you have a

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<v Speaker 1>song out and you'll talk about it for a second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Angels in this Town. Here you go. This is Angels

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<v Speaker 1>in this Town right here, this time. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the frustration that, first of all, that I have

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<v Speaker 1>that the song as a right now at this point

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<v Speaker 1>isn't doing better because it's a wonderful song and I've

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<v Speaker 1>loved it since you brought it in the first time

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<v Speaker 1>and I've played it, and I have a frustration. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what your frustration is right now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was talking to a friend and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what all we can do is

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<v Speaker 1>planting water. I can't make you and you can hire

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<v Speaker 1>farmers and hire farmers. Now I know, um, uh what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing from the moment I knew, just from

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<v Speaker 1>the moment I knew, Hey, this song is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a single. It's like, you know what we could do,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do these angel visits. And uh, I didn't call

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<v Speaker 1>him that that sounds like you're doing angel visits. They

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<v Speaker 1>just somehow fit on a calendar. Tonight. It's an angel

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<v Speaker 1>visit in my house right there. We are. My wife's

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<v Speaker 1>an angel, so they are so but it's just go

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<v Speaker 1>out and just think people that we think are doing

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<v Speaker 1>miracles in people's lives. And that's what we do. We're

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<v Speaker 1>at children's hospital the other day. Um, almost two to

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<v Speaker 1>three times a weekend, almost every show day, we go

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<v Speaker 1>do an angel visit. So tons of Habitat for Humanity builds.

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<v Speaker 1>Just getting to thank all those people building houses for

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<v Speaker 1>people just so they can afford a house. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just cool seeing the whole community come together, Like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a good guy, and I'm just frustrated that this song,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's the whole? What's what? Why do they tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this song right now isn't a taught ten song?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do they tell you as the artist? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all the time, I'm just telling you. I'm in like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, why don't we playing this song? Alive

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<v Speaker 1>Radio is saying we love it, well, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>find room because there isn't room right now. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>room for good stuff. There's always over and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to say anything here. This is what. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. So let's talk about like a highway. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have all these cars on the highway, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the analogy of music and artists that I make.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all you have. You have a highway and

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's four lanes and they've packed. The cars are

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<v Speaker 1>just flying through. That's those cars are uh, YouTube, the

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<v Speaker 1>radio apps everything right, and so they're all out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the songs and the artists and unless you're like

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen twenties old crazy car or Ferrari, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the different platforms, the kinds of cars. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have the speeds of the cars. Who gets

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<v Speaker 1>noticed the cars going really fast or really slow. And

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<v Speaker 1>so there's so many things out there, but it's all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So when someone always says there's no room

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<v Speaker 1>or something, I never believe. You should never believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. It's like this is me from the

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<v Speaker 1>inside thing. Never believe that crap because it's crap. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just crap. No. I I believe in great songs. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've never given radio crappy song, and I've never given

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<v Speaker 1>my fans a crappy song. I I and you asked frustrations.

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<v Speaker 1>Frustrations are um that we can't really say a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot in songs these days. It's it's like the only

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<v Speaker 1>way you're allowed to say humble and kind is if

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<v Speaker 1>you were Tim McGraw, you know, I and it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I try to write. I've always loved songs that have

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<v Speaker 1>a message, but I also love songs that just have fun,

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<v Speaker 1>like high class, you know. And and which was another

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<v Speaker 1>that yeah, I'm not really sure. I mean I I

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<v Speaker 1>think I always say it takes a lot more power

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<v Speaker 1>to roll up to roll an actual stone made out

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<v Speaker 1>of of of stone as opposed to made out of

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<v Speaker 1>plastic and I believe I'm made out of something heavier

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<v Speaker 1>than some other songs. And that's all right. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>song is Angels in This Town, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the Today Show playing it next week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're rocking with Hoda and Kassie Lee Bunch. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna love them. They're so nice. They had no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to be cool to me, and they were called

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<v Speaker 1>to me before the show, during the show, and after

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<v Speaker 1>the show. An hour later I saw hold of eating.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, do you want to come to have lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>And I could it because we were flying. But they

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<v Speaker 1>were the nicest people. That's cool. Everybody download Angels in

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<v Speaker 1>This Town. This is uh slate. It should have been

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<v Speaker 1>the whole songs about like there are people watching over you, right, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I it started. We were just talking about those stories

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<v Speaker 1>that make your hair stand on end, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that that's not true. There's no way that's true. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first stories I ever heard like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've never had anything personally that I know of. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing we probably that that we know of.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why you should be kind to people too,

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<v Speaker 1>for the same things. Act reason you have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how many people have been kind to you and you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea they were kind to you. And you

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<v Speaker 1>should be kind to other people, even if they don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you owe it back the same way. We probably

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<v Speaker 1>our lives have probably been on the edge ten, twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen times. We have no idea. You never even knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was wondering, like, you know, I'm not weird

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but I was wondering my grandma because before

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<v Speaker 1>she died, I was like, hey, if you're like really

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<v Speaker 1>watching over me, like, let me know. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing where her guitar fell in my house

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<v Speaker 1>and it really remember reading about it in your book.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so weird and also told you. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be freaked out by like people watching me,

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<v Speaker 1>because if they are, they're they're all good. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they watched me use the bathroom, and I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>that they watched me. You know, when I'm alone, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in such like that's the part of the body. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not that they watched me over me. It's like I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they check out while I go number two

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<v Speaker 1>or while you know, I like make Bobby Happy, They're

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<v Speaker 1>probably just grinned and go huh. That's the part that

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<v Speaker 1>freaks me. Angels in this town is the current song.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think and this is a real question that

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered about you because you are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most cerebral people that I know period um, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're ahead of it a little much? Because being

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<v Speaker 1>behind it and being ahead of it are two things

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<v Speaker 1>that will keep success from happening. And sometimes we don't

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<v Speaker 1>evenalize people were ahead of the game until it gets

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<v Speaker 1>up there. Do you feel like you're ahead of it

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<v Speaker 1>a bit? I mean, I put she Don't Love You out,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one had put ballads out, and then everybody

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<v Speaker 1>put a ballad out. Absolutely, you know, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yes, I mean the the honest try this

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<v Speaker 1>as long as this is the truth. I've always dreamed

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<v Speaker 1>of playing the C M A S or the A

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<v Speaker 1>C M S or the Grammy's cheez Um because I

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<v Speaker 1>always I always love watching it and being inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>the songs and the performers, and I've always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Like, I feel like I'm such a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the country community now that I like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to play songs like Angels or like less than Whole,

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<v Speaker 1>Are Deep as is Wide, or songs like that that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had that I've put out she Don't Love You,

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<v Speaker 1>where I believe it inspires all of us that create

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<v Speaker 1>music because it goes like yes, because it's it's those

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<v Speaker 1>type of songs that are are have so many influences

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<v Speaker 1>that I think affect all people that create, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to where it reminds you of that old mcgrawl song

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<v Speaker 1>or George Straight song or Bob Dylan song or a

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<v Speaker 1>petty song or who knows what. Um. I just have

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<v Speaker 1>always drilled ahead of thinking, just a little ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, and I'll slow it down. I'll just wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait for everybody to catch up. More of this. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for thinking that more of this we need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>When I grew up and potty party, Yeah so so

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<v Speaker 1>Eric and I And also like we wrote when I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with Phil Barton, And this is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Eric, this is not an exaggeration at all. He

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<v Speaker 1>was way too smart to write when I grow up

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<v Speaker 1>and he came into the house and he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the minds of these kids, like what

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<v Speaker 1>would you be thinking? And I was like, come down

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<v Speaker 1>to my level, the dumb level, like the total dumb

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<v Speaker 1>guy level. And so it was like, I don't do

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're like two steps ahead of everybody, like

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<v Speaker 1>in your brain, like you create these things, not even

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<v Speaker 1>just music. But we wrote When I Grew Up Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun, it was great, and then we wrote

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<v Speaker 1>Potty Party with Lindsay l I'm like, I actually am

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<v Speaker 1>just thrilled the death that I just part of children's

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<v Speaker 1>songs and they don't suck. Just kid a lot. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my official take on you at this point is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little ahead of everybody else. It's just taking

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<v Speaker 1>a break for like six months, and you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to break people to catch up. There there's a history.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go fishing and build more cabinets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just build a bunch of lights for all my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You do build like crazy. And Eric's like artistic builder too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he doesn't just build a deck. He builds a

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<v Speaker 1>deck with ep on it, Eric pass lay that rotates

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<v Speaker 1>at night and also throws candy to all the kids

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<v Speaker 1>as they walk by. Like that's the kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I actually haven't done. That. That's slightly creepy. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like I should be a clown costume or something. So

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<v Speaker 1>right now it's angels in this town. I'm rooting for

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<v Speaker 1>the song, like crazy, who'd you write this with? I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this with Eric Dylan and Corey Crowder. We were

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<v Speaker 1>down in gold Shores, Alabama, and uh, I got saying

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<v Speaker 1>we were sharing those stories that make your hair stand

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<v Speaker 1>on and I my brother was dating a girl he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't marry or anything, but um, her story was, she

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<v Speaker 1>was in this insanely horrific car accident and like to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where she was going to bleed to death

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<v Speaker 1>her head like hit a telephone pole or something like

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<v Speaker 1>her car was spinning out insane like should probably should

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<v Speaker 1>have died on contact. Honestly. Um. The first person to

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<v Speaker 1>the scene was a doctor. Second person to the scene

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<v Speaker 1>was a volunteer firefighter who had a giant emergency kit

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<v Speaker 1>in his truck, so like the biggest emergency could you

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly have as like just a civilian well

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a firefighter. I mean, so he brings

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<v Speaker 1>that over. The doctor bandages her head up and everything

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<v Speaker 1>so she's not going to bleed to death, and does

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<v Speaker 1>it so perfectly that when she got meta back to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. All of the nurses and doctors were like,

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<v Speaker 1>who did this? This was literally as perfect as you

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly do it, And how did he even do

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<v Speaker 1>it in like on a field, on the field beside

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<v Speaker 1>a highway, like, no clue how this happened. But they

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<v Speaker 1>never found a doctor. There was no car left, and

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<v Speaker 1>the volunteer fire fighters stood with all the sheriffs to

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<v Speaker 1>identify who the complice because he's the first they need

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<v Speaker 1>a statement. I mean, he worked on the patient, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was there first, and never no one recognized him.

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<v Speaker 1>No one ever saw him again. And and the girl

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<v Speaker 1>believed it was an angel and sod the like the fight,

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<v Speaker 1>but hands down, the firefighter and even the sheriff was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a miracle. We never found the guy. No

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<v Speaker 1>one knows who he is any bandaged you up perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>No one ever found the doctor. Never, he didn't that

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<v Speaker 1>he literally just was there, helped her and just vanished.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe it wasn't even a real doctor. You're saying

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<v Speaker 1>he was a I mean, could have been an angel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a miracle. That's a crazy story. The other

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<v Speaker 1>story that we shared the s which was some darkness

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<v Speaker 1>to this too, but it's it's still just like whoa

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<v Speaker 1>what like what I was saying earlier, like times that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't even know something happened. Um, the story is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I have seen, I've read, I've checked

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<v Speaker 1>up on this. Some people say it is it actually happened,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a police report in everything in a case

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<v Speaker 1>that this happened, and other people are like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it happens, but it inspired us to

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<v Speaker 1>write the song. And Um. The story was that a

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<v Speaker 1>girl was at like a party that feeblocks from her house.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at night. Party was done high school girl

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, hey, I'm just gonna walk home,

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<v Speaker 1>and the parents are like, oh, we'll drive you, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, no, I'm fine, I'll just walk home. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>nice neighborhood, walking and down the alley kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>all the garages are on both sides, walking down the

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<v Speaker 1>alley back to her house, and there's a guy leaning

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<v Speaker 1>there on one of the garages, and she just like

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out and just says like, lord, police protect me,

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<v Speaker 1>Police protect She just started praying and praying and just

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<v Speaker 1>walked right past him, went home, went to bed, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning she woke up and there was like

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<v Speaker 1>police everywhere and a girl had been murdered on that street,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the alleyway that night, and that the guy

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<v Speaker 1>leaning on the garage was the dude that did it.

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<v Speaker 1>They caught him and the girls like he totally was

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<v Speaker 1>back here. I saw him. And the police asked the

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<v Speaker 1>murderer like, why would you pick the second girl and

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<v Speaker 1>not the first girl that walked by you? And he

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<v Speaker 1>looks at him like, I'm not going to pick a

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<v Speaker 1>girl with two big guys walking with her, And there

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<v Speaker 1>were no she's walking alone, but that guy saw two

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<v Speaker 1>giant guys walking with her. That's what he said. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. So that's where Angels kind of got inspired by.

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<v Speaker 1>And also there was I remember it, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the hard thing about it. It's like you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why God sends miracles sometimes and not other times, but

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he does at all, if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in God is above and beyond anything any love you'll

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<v Speaker 1>ever know. Do you ever think the struggle though it's

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<v Speaker 1>put here so when you do finally it, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>it and respect it? More like, do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at times absolutely your stuff doesn't work on purpose? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know, I know that I had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it to a point, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, I did a radio interview and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times I'm asked, God, why do you keep giving

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<v Speaker 1>away your hits? You know, as au from the songwriting side,

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<v Speaker 1>which I write everything and I hope you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want everything to be heard, and that's impossible because

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<v Speaker 1>there's not I mean, I've written whatever somat songs, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just wild, but um but I always tell them

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's it's not a hit unless it's played

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. That doesn't mean it was the greatest song ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it hopefully it really connected to people's memories and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a great memory in their life. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it gets played a lot, it's a hit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of songs that you and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that might not ever even be heard by the public.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no way for him to even tell you

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<v Speaker 1>if they think it's a hit or not because they

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<v Speaker 1>never heard it. Yeah, So let me talk about she

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<v Speaker 1>don't love you for a second, So she don't love

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>she's just slowly she don't know. So while Friday Night

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<v Speaker 1>was out and as it was climbing up the charts

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<v Speaker 1>before it hit number one. I was like, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put she I wasn't talking to you, I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling everyone. I was just screaming at the world like,

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<v Speaker 1>she don't Love You one of the best songs I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard in years. Thanks, I was just I was annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really annoying. Thanks for champion it, man. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you love the way with making sure a ballad

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt by a new guy and I knew and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was tougher ballads, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>the song is so good, so it comes out right

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<v Speaker 1>she don't love She's just slow listen. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a song of the year. In my mind. We

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<v Speaker 1>got nominated, man, and that was one of the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tip of the hats of the song was

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for and I don't know where we got

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen or something. It was like top five in

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<v Speaker 1>most markets, but it was, you know, to go up

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<v Speaker 1>against where you think about how many forties them on

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<v Speaker 1>number one that year. To be to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top five showsen for song of the Year, that

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<v Speaker 1>just meant the world to us. And um, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question here you go, here's the question,

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<v Speaker 1>because wherever it peaked on the radio chart, which you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where it peaked? Do you know where it peaked?

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<v Speaker 1>So if it, would you rather have had it be

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<v Speaker 1>at three to one and not be nominated for Song

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, which it was, or like it happened,

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>song of the year. Let's not say number on. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say at number two, right, okay, so let's take number

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>one out of right the numbers you hate eleven, six

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and two because they're almost a ten, almost a five,

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and almost a one. Yeah, So would you rather have

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 1>been a number two song on the chart and not

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.480
<v Speaker 1>be nominated or be nominated for Song of the year

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and peak at fifteen on the radio chart? I'm I'm

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 1>fine with how the story went because every night people

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>sing along, the fans sing along, and that's that's the

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>main point. It's it's it's not that it went. I

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>mean it's nice too. It's nice to give your co

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 1>writers a pad on the back as well and go,

0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>here's a plaque for a number one. But it's, uh,

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just it means everything when you're the singer every

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>night and you go out and you sing and people

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.400
<v Speaker 1>sing along, and you go, wow, this was a hit.

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You know it was. It was a hit. It was

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a moved people hit, Like there are songs that were

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>there have been multi week number one that will never

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.160
<v Speaker 1>be remembered and thought of again, and she Don't Love

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>You is the opposite of that, like you'll be able

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to sing this forever and people. I remember when you

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>came and we don't get to go and do stuff

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 1>on the weekends. We barely get to see each other

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>play because we're both out. I always say, I was like,

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I never get to see shows. And so you came

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and played at our Rhyman show last year and you

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>did she Don't Love You by yourself and it was

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just really one of the most moving things that I've

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>seen this an artists go up by themselves and play

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that song. It was very powerful and so to be

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I congratulated. When I was not every song of you,

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised because because I knew it, it didn't

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>make you know, it wasn't in top five songs, but

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was dancing around and Jen Wayan, who

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you wrote it with, is now part of In Away June,

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and now you know they're making they're right now so

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that's she Don't Love You. I love It's just I

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>play this. So we we will do long rides and

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a bus, but if it's within like four hours,

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll just drive a van, right, because it's like, why

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I spend The bus has cast like five grands. They're expensive, man, right,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>bus for a weekends, so it's like we'll take it.

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So justin the suit will drive and he'll drive for

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>like eight hours at a time. And I have a

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 1>playlist of really slow so I'm just picturing it's crazy

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that make me sleep pull over for some big Max. Well,

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to, you know. I try to stand

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the health when my results come back from my test,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>but I have like arium everybody hurts cold play she

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't Love You, and like he wants to go to

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>He's like, dude, you gotta give me something but beat

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, after I fall asleep, you can change it,

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>like after I passed. So I just I take in

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>my powerful music and fall right to sleep. It's just

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and drive, I would say every night before just because

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't want people to be depressed after

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>that song. It's I mean, the point of that song

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>was you know, I'm the one that broke her heart

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that much. But the cool thing is people can hear

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>it with the years they want to, you know, if

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they're like going through a breakup, like, yeah, she doesn't

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.719
<v Speaker 1>love you, that screw her. Speaking of love and how

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>creative you are. So whenever you we're proposing to your

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>current wife now my only wife, Yeah, you're your your wife,

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>your eighth wife, wivers. So when you proposed, you get

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>in the pretty elaborate right with a book I did. Yeah, um,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>look at you man, No, no, I want to hear

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 1>about all this, so let me so it's like it's

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a buck of us kind of thing, right, Yeah,

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Natalie ge So she gave me this uh photo album

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>uh for for one of my birthdays, probably four years ago.

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>We've been married almost two years a year and a half,

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>two years, but um uh and it was just all

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>these photos. We worked together for five years before we ever,

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and for a while we would we would sit on

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>a little more whiskey and you know, dance a lot closer, literally,

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 1>dance a lot closer. You know, it's about as far

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>as it went. But you didn't date a couple of

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>times Okay, so you did. So did you secretly date? Okay,

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I would not really because I will say that right now.

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 1>We didn't secretively date. We just always hung out together

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and I would always find something to fix at our house. Like, hey,

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that's hinge. You both stay single because you not say

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>did you both stay in a good place because you

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>knew eventually you would try to be together? Oh no,

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>we had drama. That's fine. Yeah, she's an attractive woman.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm an attractive man. She's definitely attractive woman. And you're cool.

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>You're definitely cool. Um, so I'm in that situation now.

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't say anything whatever, you know, if you know anything,

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>don't say anything where It's like from just just a bit,

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>not long. But I had a friend for a long time.

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I miss the universe chick it had. I've had a

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>friend for a while. We were just friends forever because

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like, you can't, I can't date somebody that

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 1>I work with. And so what I learned to that

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>is traditions or bs. You know, if you love someone

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you love. I wouldn't do it. I just wouldn't. And

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying things right now that I haven't said yet

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. Um, and I just wouldn't do it.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And so we just in the last month and a half,

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>we just had a talk and I was like, Okay,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>what are we gonna do here, Like we're gonna date

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>or not. And so it looks like we're gonna date. Cool,

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it, man, let's go on, let's go right now.

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of secret it but like in two weeks.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I think in two weeks it won't be secret anymore.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 1>People are saying you're putting out like like pictures of

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like who I might be dating, And I to myself,

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what I was saying was like Bobby's just taking random girls,

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just having different part to their body

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>show just to confuse people. Fair, did you fair? But

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>no they didn't. Um. But it was the same thing,

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like this person was a friend for a long time,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>which is good. It's a good set up, the best

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>set up, because I'm terribly afraid of commitment, and so

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>here I am now with someone that I know that

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>like it's just as friends have like seen the ups

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and the downs in the middles and walked in on

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>peeing that kind of stuff. All that stuff happened, and

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>so now it's like Okay, we're gonna try this thing. Yeah,

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and she's seen I mean, she's gotten to see your

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>world too, you know. And that's like with Natalie and me.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like she's seen me from Hey, I'm done with

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>my record. You know what, who's who's wants some songs,

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know? And she went Jason Aldeen and I went

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and wrote a song that and that's why I never

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>cut it, but he should have. He ended up recording

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a song that sounded just like it. But it was like,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>but she didn't. She realized, Wow, he's actually a songwriter.

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Explain explain her job because you say that, but people

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>her job at a music publishing company. They they sign

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like a record deal in a way. They signed songwriters,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and we also might want a record deal, you know,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>be singers too. But her job was to have the

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>songs come from us, and then she would go, Okay,

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I think so and so would like this or whatever artists,

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>so she would go to the label or the manager

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>or the artist or their public whoever it was. That

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>was the right avenue to get the song to him

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to see if they want to record it or not.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>So she would take your songs because you were signed

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>to where she was working and pitched them to people,

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and she pitched Barefoot, Blue g Night too. J Cohen

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>renee Renee Bell was at Sonny and she held it

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>for Jake, and Jake ended up loving and recording it.

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Um Barefoot or even if a break, let's come back.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Hold on a second, Let's stop it that for a second.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to get back to this proposal book. Yeah, okay,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>because we we we were off track. We'll get back

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>on that train track in a second. So you make

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this book of of what? Yeah, so it's it says

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>it's all these pictures from all these years of what

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I just talked about, of random pictures of us on

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>rider trips or just downtown Nashville or who knows what.

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>And then halfway in the middle is said to be continued.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I have an idea. Oh, she

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>gave that to you, she gave it to me, said,

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>but it said to be continued. So what I did

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>was got all the pictures from then on and just

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>started putting them in and had Bible verses and cool

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>justt memories and dates and all kind of cool stuff.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>She started it. She started putting all that in there.

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So I continued it and then went and got some

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>foam and some black, really nice black velvet, you know,

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.239
<v Speaker 1>so she couldn't see that there was something built up

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in the back, and uh went up it was it

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>was January December, because I didn't want to be cliche

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and have it like one New Year's Eve night. But

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, two fellas, if you gotta do not, really,

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>don't take a day that somebody else has already created.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is, I'm a musician, so we're actually,

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I act you have time to like put a book together,

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but find me one of them my wives and mellowed wives.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>But we uh so I I and actually I ran

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>downstairs because I still had to like officially finish it exactly.

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>And I had taken a picture at a Christmas party.

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>My brother took it for me because he was already

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in on it. Took a picture of us standing in

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>front of the Christmas tree. And so when she turned

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to the last page, there was a Christmas tree there

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and at the very top was the star was the ring.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So I had slid the ring down into that phone

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to where it fit perfectly so it wouldn't fall out,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and she didn't know anything funky was going on in

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the back of the book. So it actually it took

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you to see it, right. You didn't know it was

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the ring immediately a millisecond. But that's longer. That's long

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>enough for a guy saying. But she said, God, you're

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>such a two arible person. But okay, it was It

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>was awesome process. So you've been married almost two years now,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>year and a half. Yeah, what's what's the what's the

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>key to it? At a year and a half? Um,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>loving each other deeply to begin with, and both being

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>understanding and uh and and also knowing what you're getting into.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like she knew that I'm always on the road.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Not always, but it's kind of like two different lives.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like you go out on the road, hang out

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>with all those crazy girls, and then you come back

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>to your what And I'm kidding, do make the heart

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>grow fonder or does it make the heart grow sad?

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's you know, it's it is weird because

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm on the road and I'm busy all day,

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>so like for for her to know exactly what's going on,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm terrible at like communicating details. I'm like, so

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we went to here, then we went to there. Oh yeah,

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and and and I also met Garth Brooks or what

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know or whatever. But it's, uh, I think it's

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I always love going home. And I think when we

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>when we get to finally hang out for two or

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>three days a week, it's it's really sweet and we

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just project. We make all kinds of things together. This

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>today we were building cabinets. Are just kind. He's a

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>rock star at it. No, you like it. You're like

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a person. My sister came to tell him last week

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and she and I feel like a gigante. The linen

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>chest or cabinet into the eaves of the wall while

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>he was on the roads. Are like perfect for each other,

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and I get to come back and finish up with

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the details. Yeah, you're just a creator. I mean you

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>create a lot of things, you know. Yeah, go back

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to music, and you're talking about songs, and so I

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think of it as look at all the songs

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that you've given away, because you write songs at different

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>times for different reasons. Absolutely, there are sometimes when it's

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>time to write for yourself and when it's your project time,

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and there are sometimes where you just are writing because

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>you you're a songwriter as well. You gotta write. You

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta swing the baseball bat. So let's talk about and stuff.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Barefoot Blue Gene Nights, So never could

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you write this with wrote this with Terry Sock Chuck

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and Dylan Altman. So when you wrote this, it wasn't

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>written with Jake and mind. We just wrote it. Yeah,

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>where were you at Calfour where I used to write

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and the upstairs it's like they finished out the attic area,

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>so I'd go up there. Made me look like a giant,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>complete giant person. You are a complete but no, no,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you are a complete giant person. Nothing needs to make

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like you're so tall. I'm like, well, I'm only

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like four inches tall. I CD cover. You know, at

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>least you don't have to take arm pits. And that

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>was a conversation that you don't have to take arm pits. Yeah,

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>so you write this song Barefoot Blue gen Night. What

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>did it sound like on the recording? Like if you

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.720
<v Speaker 1>guys like recorded the demo, pretty close to that, Pretty

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>close to that. I'll tell you a story on that.

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Jake is stand up awesome dude. We actually he actually

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>changed a couple of lines, a couple of words kind

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of more a couple of words in the song. Never

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>asked us to be a rider on it, which you know,

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's you. Guys also have to say yes to

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>that too. A lot of times people well I don't,

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had this happen yet. But in theory sometimes

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and make believe land not called Nashville. Sometimes you know,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>people will be like, you know what, I think I

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>need to change your word there can we have the

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>song and you're like, this is in l A man

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with the grap you it's just not cool. I would

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>never do that. You mentioned l A. Here's the difference.

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>So what's songwriting? The good people are moving here from

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>l That's true, there are a lot of this is

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>where to move to to write. But so if three

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>people write a song, it's thirty three. But if it

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>costs like two million dollars to buy like a five

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>d square foot house, you probably just have to rip

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>off all your friends. Yes, it's less expensive here in

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>l A. You can write part of a song and

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>get ten percent of a song. Right. There are two

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>different kind of song writing rules. There are national rules.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>If there are three people in the room, everybody gets

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a third of the song. Right if you're in l

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>A if you contribute ten percent, and that's what's negotiated,

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you get ten of the song. And that's the difference.

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>And the two were uh in this theoretical world. Have

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you heard of stories where people just go sit in

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a room and don't really add much, but they're in

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the room and they get writing credit. And this is

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>this is the universal. Just one thing I will say,

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>there are some just really good vibe people that somehow

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>when they step in the room, great songs are written,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>even if they only said like two words like I'm

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>totally moving to Nashville. I got good vibes. Everyone knows

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I got good No. But I mean that's usually just

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the off day where it's like you're a great writer

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and you're you know, you're just staring at me the

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>whole time. But now it's uh songs. It's just a

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>wild process. I mean, we all have our on days

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and off days. Um, but it is. But but to

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>get back to it, props to Jake. I mean the

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like he changed what was it the I'm never gonna

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>uh it was a second verse. It was down blue

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>eyes Auburn. Here is sitting looking pretty on the deck

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>by my cousin in a launcher, and it was like,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>by your cousin, like we like now we changed that, Natalie,

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like, what the crap, Like, we're not like

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>twelve or in Sesstuary cousin, but by the deck by

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that it was originally on the deck in a launcher,

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and Jake was like, by the final launcher, dude, with

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the crap, that's just better looking. And there it is,

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>did the town new to me? Ruby red lips sitting

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>on sweet Teo that was originally shot me a look

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>like a shooting staring grabbed the bar of my ogata,

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>so that originally was I grabbed the keys to my

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>daddy's car. We wrote around underneath the stars, Allen to

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>singing our favor was on. I mean he he basically

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>he made it totally fit everyone's scene. And he didn't.

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>He didn't come back and go, hey, I'll take a quarter.

0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>He didn't, you know, and uh, I mean props to him,

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, with with that amount changed, he just didn't.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 1>He's a songwriter. He was like, you know what, y'all

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>wrote a great song. Here's a cool thing, and he knows.

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>On the artist end, he's gonna be fine because he's

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to play the show every night. That's the

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>biggest as long as he wants. So you have Jake

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Owen's the biggest song, Well, Jake, Jake, Jake was the messenger,

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>so I think perfectly. It's like you wrote the song

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>for Jake. Is weird? Did you? Natalie did good job, babe.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I pitched the fire out of that song, and they're

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>some artists in town. He would probably be pretty badders response.

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh so, I like it will turn the song down. Yeah,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>it's so crazy that Jake got it because that's such

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a Jake song. It worked great, you know, knows something wild.

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Jake and Jared Neeman originally did it as a dude

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>as like they both sang on it together, and then somehow,

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened. I actually heard it. It It

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>was fun and it was just like, you know what,

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna keep this for myself. I'm not sure

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I said this is a Jake song. Yeah, Jared, you

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>are dude, but this is not the time for you

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>to be on a song. That's what I was told

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>by one of the parties involved. And so they did

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>record it as a yeah that and that was the

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 1>first recording I heard of it, and I was like,

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>this is fun, sounds cool. Who's Frankie? Huh, who's Frankie?

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Who knows? I just said, okay, but the the I

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 1>will say the lighters in the dark in the middle

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of a rock show. Before we started writing the song,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Altman, who I loved as a brother, We've written

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>together a ton of times, tons of songs together. He uh,

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he was telling us about seeing you two on the

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree tour like in eighties six, eighties seven at

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>jfk Uh. He's like from Jersey. I was like, man,

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you turn around, it's like lights in the dock, you know.

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it was awesome and all these lighters and

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you two concerts. So we were just that's

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of where that line came from, shining like lighters

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>in the arc in the middle of a rock show. Day.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll never listened that song the same, Like, I just

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>learned all of it. It's like I know how to

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>put a car together now, Like I don't know anything

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>about cars, but I wanted to get taken apart so

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I can kind of put it back together. But it

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>was but this is my first hit as a writer,

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is the first time, and it was

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I had signed my record deal, uh, and then the

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>song came out and and it was like, you know

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that I put out a song and it didn't work,

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and put out another song. But it was just it

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>was like perfectly a line, like God just said, all right,

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>here you go. Here's confidence to know that you still

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that you are supposed to be in Nashville. You're supposed

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to be doing this and uh, even though the artist

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>thing hadn't quite taken off, and but guess what, You're

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>writing songs that people want to record and want to

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>hear and want to sing along too, and radio wants

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to play. And it's just it was a really really

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>cool just I'll forever be grateful because it changed my course. Um.

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I never doubted that I could do this, but sometimes

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wow, it's nothing's working right now. You know,

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been writing songs for four or five years straight

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>and no one's like had had success with it yet

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>on radio. Okay, so that song happens when you get

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>your first check. Is it's small? Yeah, I mean it's

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the early it's the early one, so it was like

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the fifties and forties, so like you

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>get like two do you know? That's pretty exciting though, right,

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it's amazing check for a song, like wow, I

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>just got I just got paid and my song was

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. It's only amazing the first time you

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>get that small check, but it's cool for that first time,

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing and it's uh actually the first time I

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>ever got to check from ASCAP, I think it was

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>like for like fifty eight cents and I'm not even sure.

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, yeah, I think it did. It

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>did and I did. I don't. I never even cast

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it because like, why that's it's worth more to have it?

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>You know? What was your next songwritering hit? So this

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.240
<v Speaker 1>is while the next one was even If It Breaks

0:41:55.239 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Your Heart that same year, So just been in. I

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>had been in town five or six years at that point. Uh,

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>just getting to know a ton of people and writing

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and writing and writing, hoping to get a record deal.

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Um wrote this with Will Hoag. He put it on

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>his album and all his fans loved it. It was

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of like triple A rock Um, which is very

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>much country now but um uh. And then Eli young

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Van got to hear it to Cliff Aldridge, which Natalie

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>pitched the song of Cliff Um. You can pitch a

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 1>song even though a nartist has already cut it. Absolutely, Okay,

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it happened all the time. Man, I'm gonna cut for

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>girls Friday Night. Lady and a Bellum recorded that on

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Night album and then and okay, that's true

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>about Friday Night. So this is your this is the

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>number one for you recorded now if they hadn't went

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>one more single, this was the next single, but they

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>decided not to go anymore sings. So because they didn't

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>put it out of a single, you get to take

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it back and you got to put it out like

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that's like some angels in this town kind of stuffs.

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>That's some miracle right there, you know. And it allowed

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>my my first album to come out and allows me

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to sit here and you don't even know about me.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You know that's not true. We met before I knew

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>it yourself to be fair fair German out of the

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.720
<v Speaker 1>fourth Theater at the Hall Hall of Fame's Bobby Bones

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is moving in Nashville, and it was like it's like, hey,

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>get when I'm from and I was like, where are

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you from? And it was like from Temple, yeah. And

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like like, oh, you're Jewish because you lived

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>right because northeast of aust Yeah, right where we were basically,

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, like our first price conference, which was

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>so weird, it seems like ten years ago. Like it

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>really it's like two and a half years ago, three

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>years ago, three years. How long have we been? How

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>long have we been? Three years? Three years? It feels

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>like it feels like ten years ago. Oh my goodness.

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 1>It feels like all those all those beautiful nights, all

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>these all these wrinkles I have, and great heres from

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>from this from this city. You dang, they look good

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>on here. Thank you appreciate that a cyber like, look

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>at my cyber? Is that gray in there? It's cool man,

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>from all the political crab in this town. You're fine.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Whatever I know yet, tell me about this song right here? Angel, Yeah, Angels.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I seriously just saw Eric Gunderson at the airport yesterday morning.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Good eight six of them. I don't even know when

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>we land at seven am. Wrote this with him and

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Copeland, and yeah, I mean, what are the odds

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>of that two giant guys named Eric, who both have

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>juvenile diabetes, wrote a number one song together. Eric is

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a good dude, and Eric spent through a lot and

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Eric now is like focused and straight up and he

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>had a rough time for a bit. And we got

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>got to spend a lot of time with them on

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the road because we took him out with this for

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>like eight shows or so and they opened forth. Um,

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I really like him good. Yeah, they're grinders and they

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>had their up and their way down another work the

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>way back up in your root for people like that absolutely,

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you have that all right, So let's

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about all those hit in one year. Like

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually I got a CMA Triple Play Award. That

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>means you had three number ones in one year. So

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any hits as a writer or a

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>singer and had a record deal and had, you know,

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone rooting for me, and then all of a sudden,

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the damn broke. You know, all these songs and all

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>these songs that Natalie had pitched and just hopefully people

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>would latch onto And did you put you angel life

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of other people or was it pick

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 1>up immediately? Actually? I set up a cor with Eric

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and Jeff, and Jeff brought Eric Anderson and in the

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>last second, and let me tell the story, I was like.

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>He was like, I mean, it's a cool song, but

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not true. There's no devil and an angels at

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, but maybe dark angels, but she's

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>not she's a good I mean, I was just getting

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all like spiritual, like it's fine. So he didn't love

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it at first. That's so funny. Well, you know it's

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the number one song. Now you have to play it

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life. Yeah, and here we are.

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I love the song to death. So you wrote it

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>before the other side, but it hit. They all hit

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, but it took you. Yeah, but

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>they always I was always told, and I always tell

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.959
<v Speaker 1>people now it's like, don't write what's on the radio

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>because it's probably at least two years old. Like it

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.399
<v Speaker 1>was written two years ago. It takes about that much

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>time for it to get demo and then pitched like this.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny that he didn't like this song. I was.

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean that at the time though, I was writing

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like one to three songs a day, so I'm like,

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anymore. You know, as sucks. How many

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 1>songs do you have on hold right now? I have

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 1>no If you had to guess more than ten, I

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Sure, I don't know. Well, this is the

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 1>wild thing. I'm on the road so much now, um

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>singing what I've always what I've wanted to do, and

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>also wanting to write. But it's like it takes so

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>much to carry one song, you know, as as a

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>as an artist and uh as a singer, and so

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't get to write as much now. When I

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>get to write it it is with like Lady Anna

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Bellamore or whoever it is. It's hard. You don't let

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>anybody right with them right, you block everybody? Block a

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of days because Aaron needs sometime haul not so

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>much I'm trying to block people. But we definitely he

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>has such little time to write that we definitely try

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to put him in rooms where he'll be successful and

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll be tired. So why would you send him over

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to do potty party? And when I grow up? Because

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it's fun, because because it's renovating. Man, I just wrote

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a song about not pissing your pants. It's so fun

0:47:53.640 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to play live you realize how many band members members

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>need to have that song. I mean, there's some wild

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.959
<v Speaker 1>people on the road. Adults. Adults love that song. So okay,

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about right to you. But it depends you're

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:13.840
<v Speaker 1>on the song with Charles Kelly. But you also wrote

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>this right wrote Yeah, I wrote the Driver with him

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh, insta class and you got a Grammy nomination

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>the right We totally got Anomie nomination for I can't

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>even talk. I just made it up. It really was.

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>And this was the first time as an artist I've

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>been nominated as a Grammy. We we got a Nami,

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>got Anomie for a gram Yeah, you got three nous

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>tell you, but the first one for even to preak

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>your heart for Song of the Year Country Song. You've

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 1>got two Grammy nominations. Crazy man, I've been nominated for

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a few things. It's cool, um dream there is some

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>good song. Proud of this song. It's uh, it's it's

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 1>just it's a it's a just a tip of the

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>hat too to all the people, the crew, the bus drivers,

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to everybody that gets us there, everyone that you don't see.

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I I call those people behind the walls of OZ.

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like everyone just wants to pretend that that Oz

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>just appears this giant emerald city and to fill the poppies.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And you don't realize how much work and how many

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>people are there day in and day out building a career. Um,

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you show up and for forty five minutes

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>or an hour, hour and a half, two hours, four

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>hours if you go to see Springsteen, you know that

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>that how much effort it goes into it. Like what

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>you I mean you should just like with your role

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>in sharing music you love, you know, with with people

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>so they know to come see the show. And it's Uh,

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>this song is just a shout out to all those

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>people that build it, all of us on the stage,

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>just all of all the singers that we you know,

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 1>pour our whole lives into this, and then the fans

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that pour their lives into it, you know, like coming

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 1>five hours earlier just to stay on the front road

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to wait, yeah, to see it. It's pretty amazing how

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:11.760
<v Speaker 1>important in your life it's faith to you. It's everything

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to me. Um, I'm smart enough to know I could

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>just stay at home and and uh, that being said,

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you still have to be blessed and lucky enough to

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>get songs recorded. But I love writing songs, but I

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>love sharing songs with people that I don't think others

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 1>would necessarily share. And I don't make it easy on

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>myself in that way. But um, I don't know. I've

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I've never doubted that I was on the wrong path

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that God had sent me on to go like all right, Uh,

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>this is what's wild. I've gotten to hang out with

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>so many juvenile diabetics lately, Um, just doing these angel visits,

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>going to hospitals and and go like, hey, there's this

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 1>kid just got diagnosed. We just go get encourage them,

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, and uh, just get to meet all these

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>juvenile diabetics and we get to do all this fundraising

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>for j d r F and all that. And up

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>until I was eighteen, I thought I was going to

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>be a doctor for that, to be a dibet doctor

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and an inner chronologist and specifically pediatrical and chronologist for

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>kids that have that are being diagnosed with diabetes. And

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it's wild how God is taking that career that never happened.

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And now with music, it's like merging it all together

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>right before my eyes. It's like I'm getting to raise

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 1>money for what I you know, something I believe in

0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 1>to help kids with diabetes, and you know I have

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it too, So it's it's relatable to when I see

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 1>them and go, hey, man, you know, take care of yourself,

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>don't Don't you feel better when you test your blood

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know where you're at? You know? And and

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I also tell everybody it's like we could have been

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>born a hundred years ago and died from this, you know.

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And uh, but it's my faith tells me that what

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe in is true because God's just somehow brought

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>music and another calling that I thought I was gonna do,

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and now it is is you know, juvenile diabetes, Uh

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>together somehow and and uh and even so much more

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>getting to just help a lot of people and let

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>kids know it's okay to do good stuff. You don't

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just have to be ridiculous online to be famous. Do

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you you feel like God put you on earth for

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a reason. I think you put all of us on

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:20.760
<v Speaker 1>earth for a reason. Why did I put you on earth?

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully to glorify Him and let people look up towards him,

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:29.760
<v Speaker 1>not be uh, not be misled about who he really

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 1>is or jaded to to his love. Because someone used

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>his name not for the right reason, you know. And uh,

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I hope that whenever the time

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 1>comes when I'm not here anymore, people go, you know what,

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>God used him to bring me closer to God. I

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>was talking to Garth, not in like that's just what

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe, not not for me, and that's totally not

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>looking at me. I um no, I I wonder And

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I know you're such faith based. And I met your

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>parents who were awesome, by the way. They're fun people

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and they were missionaries Nomad's right now. They freaking sold

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 1>their house there in an RV just cruising around him.

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>They are yeah, damn But for them though, like they've

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 1>lived in some pretty cool places, right, Yeah. Well, my

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>dad was telephone man, like for thirty years. He worked

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 1>with South Southwestern Bell so he's a manager. And we

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>were the first to have Caller I d in all

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of Bell County. Was crazy. When it came out, they

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>call me, I'd be like, hey, Carson's the first one

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to have Colorady in your talent totally and the whole

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>count You had to be the coolest because when it

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>came out, we were maybe even the first in Austin area.

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It was so cool. If you're below like twenty five

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 1>right now, you have no idea how color I d

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 1>changed our lives. Yeah. Used to you had to answer

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>every call and really answer this is what I hate to.

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>You had to answer it with the question hello, Hello.

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>People still do that now and I'm like, you know,

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just say hate strange person. Yes, but yeah.

0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 1>So he worked with Southwestern Bell worked their thirty years.

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 1>He was in the Navy electricians, so it fed into

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 1>being ah in the telephone company with all those wires

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>running everywhere, it all makes sense to me and like

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>your creation, Yeah, he's I guess he showed me. I mean,

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he showed me how to wire up stuff. So that's

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>why I'm not afraid to do electrical work or built

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>things he built. We built a lot of stuff together,

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the create the creative part of you, the faith based

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.319
<v Speaker 1>part of you. Like it all kind of makes sense,

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:26.240
<v Speaker 1>all the puzzle that's slowly going together, getting put together.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>So when did they decide to be missionaries? So we

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>had a neighbor that was from Thailand across the street

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and my mom and her were good friends. And then

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 1>we had a lady named on Sinakim over from she

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>was a I thought she was like like, they're like, oh,

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 1>she's a teacher in Bangkok. Turns out she's like the

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 1>head honcho principal at like the best school in Bangkok.

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So she came and lived with us for two or

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 1>three months. She was studying out of college there. Um,

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and so I knew this sweet little woman that would

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.919
<v Speaker 1>like make the most incredible tie food I've ever had

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in our kitchen. I was probably a senior in high

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>school then. And uh so my dad retired and it

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, we know people in Thailand and let's go.

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And they went for six months and it ended up

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>being like six years. They speak fluent Thaie. It's pretty amazing.

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>And the coolest thing is are for me, the coolest

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>thing about that was is I got I got to

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:23.399
<v Speaker 1>get out of American bubble. I like got to go

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>all around the world and go that's this really, isn't that, fay?

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, like the world is pretty small. Yeah, and

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole scheme of things now and to go. I

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that guy just said to me, but

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I know he's my friend. It's crazy that you say

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that because I've only just discovered that, like the last

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.920
<v Speaker 1>two to three years, I never went anywhere. You've been

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>traveling a bunch of cool places, man, Yeah, in the

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>last two years. Because again I grew up in Arkansas.

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 1>We do. I don't love a kid any money. Yeah,

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>we had to eat. We want a vacation. Why to

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>get school closed? Same here as a kid. We well

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>we hopefully got like one vacation here. So I got

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>spoiled with that. I remember, you got to go with

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>your buddies. I went to call rot. I want my buddies.

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Parents paid for it, and so very cool. Now I've

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.320
<v Speaker 1>never been at the country, but I went to London

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half ago and about myself just

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:10.799
<v Speaker 1>to see over a couple of days right now. And

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 1>so I go and I'm like, okay, this is it's

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it's really not that far away. And then I went

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to Japan and that's the other side of the world.

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:25.240
<v Speaker 1>And even as I'm there and we speak nothing the same,

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the people part of it is still the same. If not,

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they're kinder than us. Like I was just like wow,

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 1>like they're actually more loving than like it was yes,

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>even though it's the other side of the world. It

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 1>was like we're all just still kind of the same

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. I went to Iceland. It was amazing.

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>The nicest people, Like, everybody's nicer than That's kind of

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>what I've determined. Everywhere ever you go, they're nicer than

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 1>we are. In the States, well they're just you know,

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>just afraid of you. Because I got on the subway

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like in Japan I was a giant.

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I was to you. Here I got to feel I

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I'm like Eric Pasley because I was

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>taller than everybody. Started singing sound great, Yeah, I sund

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it great. I mentioned Garth a minute ago because he

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 1>said before he died, the last thing you wanted to

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>hear was a dance. That's what he said. And he

0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't cut almost didn't cut the dance. And I was

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>talking to him about it and I said, hey, so

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>tell me about the dance and you He's like, listen.

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I was then the guy that wasn't country. I was

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>then the guy that this isn't shouldn't be on the

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 1>radio because this is not what country is that I'm

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>swinging him from the ropes on his stage. He said

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that that that he was not going to cut the

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>dance at all because it wasn't country enough, like that

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>song was not country and had Steve Reynolds not come

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to him and said, dude, if you don't cut this song,

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you will regret it, and he said it was that's

0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the only reason he cut the dance incredible song. We'll

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>think about that. They're just a piano part at the beginning.

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:56.360
<v Speaker 1>They want. Nobody was doing that, you know, And it's

0:57:56.440 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 1>just it's what's happening now too. And Michael, what tol

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>me about? Because Johnny Cash from Arkansas, From Arkansas, you

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>look up to everybody from Arkansas that's made. She would say.

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>People would protest Johnny Cash concerts because he was a

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 1>country he was rock and roll right, And how do

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 1>people not see the cycle that happens over and over

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and over and over and over over and over and

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>over again. It's happened eighty times, yet everyone thinks this

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>time is the wrong time. Right now. I always say, uh,

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Hank, Hank, Hank Junior in country as Daddy was,

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and Willie's just some hippie from Texas, you know,

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>God forbid and I and I know that when Kenny

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Rogers and Dollies sang Islands in the Stream like Hell

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Froze over, and it's like then you go back and

0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, you know what. You know, It's like

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you listen to crews like Floor George, You're like that

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty Dann Good song. That's that's as country as it

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>can be right now now. And it was like and

0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that was only like three or four years ago. So

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it really is. I mean, people are afraid to change

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and and and music has always changed because if it didn't,

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 1>we get really be bored with it. You know, it's

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it would die. And if you never wanted something new,

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it would there'd only be the one song ever. I mean,

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a bummer that people do. I mean,

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just it's scary when things change. I'm not here,

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>but if if it stayed the same, it would die

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>with the people who loved it, it would and the

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>newer generations that's being influenced by ninety different things would

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 1>not attach themselves to it and it would just go away.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people understand. It frustrates me. I mean

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that really gets under way. But the wild thing that is,

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like what's what's new was what was old? You know,

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's all close music everything. I was

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>just thinking, like adele Amy Winehouse. I mean, it's British

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 1>chicks singing what Aretha Franklin did, and yeah with current

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>lyrics and incredible voices. You know, but it's a um.

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 1>We started covering a dull song on the road snatchat

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it's fun, it's it's really freaking people out, man, not really,

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:03.320
<v Speaker 1>what's uh set Fire to the Rain? Uh? Yeah, how's

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that starting on the road now? Yeah, you're Angels in

1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>This Town Tour. I love the song so much we

1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>just decided to call it call the whole tour Angels

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in This Town Tour. All right, let's talk about this song.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this song. A song about a girl. Yeah,

1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Natalie was in this video, wasn't. Yeah that's right. We

1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>weren't even engaged yet, so you were just dating. Were

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you secretly dating or were you dating? People knew we

1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.720
<v Speaker 1>were dating? Okay, so then you were dating. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a time that we people couldn't know you were dating.

1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:43.880
<v Speaker 1>We pretty much just the Yeah, I mean we would

1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:48.480
<v Speaker 1>secretively hang out ish, so you secretly dated. It was bizarre. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I get it. Song about a girl talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it for a second. It's strange and it's perfect

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<v Speaker 1>coming by this song. So yeah, you're you're saying sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>on ahead of I the thought was, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>original thought was everybody's seeing about tailgates like they're not sexy.

1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 1>It's only the chicks sitting in it that's sexy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And like the water tower. The water tower is the

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<v Speaker 1>most boring, ugly thing in our town. But if my

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend's name is on it, that now that's a song

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<v Speaker 1>about a girl. You know, you're not drown the bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of jack unless you're getting over, you know, or finding

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<v Speaker 1>the guests to ask route. So we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were slightly being smart, going like it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>a tailgate or a bonfire. It's about the girl though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's what this song is about. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought this is the coolest. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is the coolest sounding track on my first album, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as just attitude and cool, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I just moved into a new house. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>new studio set up. There are people in my Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>so long three years that I've been your holy crap,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a long three years. But there are people

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<v Speaker 1>that I've attached to as people and in my business.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I do. You get a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>thrown at you from me, and like people like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend, Hey, let me here's some pretty stuff. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the plaque. No, no no, I don't want it that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it at all, Like that's the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of what I want. But I only keep like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a room. I only have six things up in

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<v Speaker 1>this room. And it's because of Kelsey Ballerinia have her

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<v Speaker 1>first number one plaque, because I mean, she's she's killing

1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it now. But I remember Kelsey before she had a

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<v Speaker 1>record deal. I knew Kelsey when she was just signed

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<v Speaker 1>as a writer. I knew Kelsey the Christmas party when

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<v Speaker 1>she got offered a record deal. And then you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even like I'm going on a radio tour, what I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do for advice? And then we took her out on

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<v Speaker 1>our first tour and she cried and I went back

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, listen, Kelsey, you're gonna screw up

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<v Speaker 1>in a much bigger places than this, Like you you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna screw up in such big places. Don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas and Raging Idiot Show like, that's the Kelsey that

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<v Speaker 1>I started with. So I have a plaque of Kelsey's

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<v Speaker 1>first number one. Awesome. Girl Crushed from a Little Big

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<v Speaker 1>Town was just a song on the record that should

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<v Speaker 1>have never been played ever, and it should have never

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<v Speaker 1>been played. I got so much trouble. Natalie played me

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<v Speaker 1>that song the second the day after it was written,

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<v Speaker 1>morning after. Who's sang the like the demo? Hillary, Lindsay,

1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Laurie McKenna. Yeah, they love jockeys, They've told a story. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had them on the show as writers and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have writers in their office. I love Laura McKenna

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<v Speaker 1>so much. She's she's awesome. Yeah, can you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>go to Boston? Yeah, whoever's like in the band, like

1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Natalie stove Ball or Lindsay l They'll go. They'll go

1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:37.600
<v Speaker 1>right with her Boston. So I have a Little Big

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<v Speaker 1>Town from their kids. Girl carst sold. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>a song that I heard on the record while they

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<v Speaker 1>were still uh drink um drinking was trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>number one. I was like, you have to your girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Natalie that, I said, this is the only

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<v Speaker 1>time and at the time, Note radio was not playing

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<v Speaker 1>girls at all. It was before the tomatoes thing that

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<v Speaker 1>led girls in it was that's a whole other story,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But um but I said, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only time I wish I was a girl in the

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<v Speaker 1>country radio right now, because I totally cut this. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing was, it was so awful for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>because first of all, I played it, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble because I had station managers yelling at me

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<v Speaker 1>because I was playing a lesbian song, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>put but it went to number one on iTunes, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I could at least show them data. And I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, it could be fun, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not really And if you have data, you

1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:29.200
<v Speaker 1>can always point to it. I'm like, people are spending

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<v Speaker 1>their all money on this song. So what they did

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<v Speaker 1>is they tested it. My company spent money testing me

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it to see if our listeners were turned

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<v Speaker 1>off and changed the channel by it. I got so

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<v Speaker 1>much trouble over it. I had a friend that works

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<v Speaker 1>with Washington Post articles written whatever history happens Boom that

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<v Speaker 1>songs like the biggest song of blows up. So I

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<v Speaker 1>keep a plaque up of that. And then I have

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<v Speaker 1>four records by four different friends and their their vinyl records.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jansen, who is just a solid dude, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a guy that has been through some rough

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<v Speaker 1>times and come out to the other side of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if that dude in my pinky, I would cut

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<v Speaker 1>it off and say here's the pinky. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>need one. So I got Jansen and a record Urban

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<v Speaker 1>who's always been so kind like things don't even talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's so kind. He played he played on Dressed

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<v Speaker 1>in Black, the title truck track on the album that's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to come out someday. Really yeah, that's cool, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that sounds like. He's just like, what

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do? I'll do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in town, Hey, well are you send me? Like

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<v Speaker 1>He's been probably the most secretive friend that I had,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, he never asks for anything. He just cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a Marin Marin record and who was also

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<v Speaker 1>this Sonice, like she's like the kids and I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to you every morning that we're in town and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this for real? Gold Camp? But stop talking to me?

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<v Speaker 1>It was weird. So and then I have a Marin

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<v Speaker 1>because we would old music off the internet. For a

1:06:01.040 --> 1:06:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Mirror and played on the radio before she before she

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<v Speaker 1>was five times CMA nominated Mirror and then Avaneric Passley.

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<v Speaker 1>There I am, there he is, there's are Those are

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<v Speaker 1>the six things that I have up on the wall

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<v Speaker 1>in this room. Six people that I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people including any buddy. Well you you probably the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Kelsey are like the first. Here we go,

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<v Speaker 1>so chronologically, that's why I'm at the bottom. Not really,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not at the bottom. Let's talk about this one here.

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<v Speaker 1>Never really wanted my very first single, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it sounded cool, you know, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ticks will be intrigued by this. You don't want me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now you do? Yeah you do. Did you get

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<v Speaker 1>into music for girls? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah you do. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I always thought about I was like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the coolest kid in school? This is what I

1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:55.360
<v Speaker 1>always think it's like. And this is for the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>kid in school also to remember to keep reaching. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you're the coolest kid in school, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to go to your bedroom and pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a guitar by yourself and write a really slow

1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:07.800
<v Speaker 1>love song and hope your parents don't hear you write

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<v Speaker 1>in a song, you know, or figuring out how to

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<v Speaker 1>play guitar and uh, and it's uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, like Steven Tyler you talking, he just

1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:19.360
<v Speaker 1>always got made fun of. He's like everybody always made

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<v Speaker 1>fun of my lips, you know, and all this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got made fun of in school and I

1:07:22.720 --> 1:07:25.080
<v Speaker 1>mean make jaggers. I mean he probably got made. You

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<v Speaker 1>just think, Tom Petty, I don't. I don't really see

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<v Speaker 1>those as being like the you're you're the homecoming king.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, if you are, don't forget to

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<v Speaker 1>keep reaching. But it's yes, but we all did it

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<v Speaker 1>for girls. Absolutely, we're all low life. We just we

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<v Speaker 1>just never got girls. We never get. We never get

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<v Speaker 1>girls made us drove us to do what we do

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<v Speaker 1>and that you'll get there, buddy, be fine by this.

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<v Speaker 1>The first second. I haven't played this one yet. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Rewind. Yeah. UM wrote it with Ashley Gorley and

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<v Speaker 1>Krista Stephano and they didn't do one thing on the recording.

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<v Speaker 1>That took me in like thirty minutes to finally do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sang rewind and uh, and then we reversed

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<v Speaker 1>it and it was like near We're or something, just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sang it backwards and then we flipped it

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<v Speaker 1>back so it sounded like it was like rewind, so

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<v Speaker 1>where it was it was just ridiculous. So basically, basically

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to sing it backwards. We flipped it over

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<v Speaker 1>so it was literally me singing it in rewind, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it sounded like rewind and and the guy's the

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<v Speaker 1>look on your face is the exact look Gary Lavox

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<v Speaker 1>gave me, like you did what and why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>have just saying read wind? You know? And they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do what you I don't think they even realized that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, that was a weird. He was really

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<v Speaker 1>ring there, stepping on some who thinks of that to

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<v Speaker 1>actually go, I'm gonna sing it backwards so I can

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<v Speaker 1>play it. I had next minutes before my next code, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, let's try it. Actually left long

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<v Speaker 1>before He's like, I gotta go, and Chris was like fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I love writing with those guys. We we

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<v Speaker 1>just wrote another hit. Who knows it'll find its home somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw and talked to Stefanough for right like

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes other night. Like, I don't know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that aren't that on the surface, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've gotten to know a few because I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my dearest friends, Lee Miller, Lee Thomas Miller

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<v Speaker 1>as a writer, like one of my he cares go

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<v Speaker 1>to I'll go to like go to his house and

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<v Speaker 1>have dinner. Friend Like, he's like such a and he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote for those that are listening, and we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>him in here sometime soon. But he wrote um in

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<v Speaker 1>color from Jamie Johnson. He wrote like a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Paisley stuff, like he wrote, you know, big songwriter,

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<v Speaker 1>but even better human in better dude. So Lee was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>come play a songwriter around with me. And I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll play a couple of funny songs whatever. So I

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<v Speaker 1>get up. I don't know what I'm doing right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's during what's a song writter first called Tin South. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what it is, right. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how clueless I am. He's like, Hey, we're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>thing at tip Pan South. Are you in town? And

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to be in town. I was like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Thursday, Friday Saturdays I was in town. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, I can't play with you. I'll play

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<v Speaker 1>like He's like, just you play like four songs. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, that's not really my thing to get

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<v Speaker 1>up by myself and do music. Music. I do see

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<v Speaker 1>up comedy and I add music to it, or I

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<v Speaker 1>get a big band and we play our songs. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get up and he's like, hey, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys gonna show up and play whatever. I'm like, cool, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get up and it's Lee to the left,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's me and sitting beside me, it's christ As Stephano,

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<v Speaker 1>who has written a hundred like all right, like he

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<v Speaker 1>did Carrie Underwood Something in the Water him and he

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<v Speaker 1>sang it, and he sang it as good as Carrie

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<v Speaker 1>Underwood can sing. It's pretty good. He's very pretty good singer.

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<v Speaker 1>And next to Chris was Ashley Gourley. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth person. And actually Go has written just recently, he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote with Dan and Jay and he wrote from the

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<v Speaker 1>ground up. He wrote Cole Swindell, you should be here

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<v Speaker 1>with Cole like these guys are. And so it's Lee, Chris, Stephano,

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Gorley and me now, which one doesn't belong of

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<v Speaker 1>that four Noah, the fact, So he was so Chris

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<v Speaker 1>was so kind to me, and I saw him. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Kelsey's I've been to two number one parties

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, Kelsey's the first number one song and

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey's last number one song, and Christmas they're wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>pim and Joy head and I was like, dude, did

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was coming? And he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. And so, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>see pim and Joy hats in the crowds all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's cool, that's all, but good dude. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Stephan was a good dude. And you wrote that with

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<v Speaker 1>him and Ashley and my my co players. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only song. We've only written two songs together, the

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<v Speaker 1>one I was just talking about in this one. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, we just wrote another really good song.

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<v Speaker 1>As we wrote about Amounts, goes like, well, maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep batting a thousand. We'll see that means you're hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball perfectly. What, Yeah, I think most people in case, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so this album that that you talked about, what's again

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<v Speaker 1>take for like this thing to happen faith. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough. I gotta have faith in listeners and faith

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<v Speaker 1>in radio to play man, never have faith in radio. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I still gotta have faith in them. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>they want to play great music. They will whatever I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I can be frustrated for you. I'm frustrated,

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<v Speaker 1>but I but I understand that that energy is worth

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<v Speaker 1>not not worth. It's not good for business to be

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get uninspired. We were my good friend,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about it. I said, at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you got a plant in water. The moment

1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you try to start making something grow that you literally

1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have the power to do is when you get jaded.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to start trying to like push

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<v Speaker 1>push greenly was out of the ground that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing. I can. I mean, I could fabricate it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not the person that I am, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's uh. If you'd like to fabricate it'd be grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>Punch a horse in the face, right, I shouldn't do that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he stole a horse. He didn't punch a horse at

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<v Speaker 1>he's still a cops horse. Course, yeah, he's still Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a whole long story. He he was actually apparently

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<v Speaker 1>flirting with the sheriff's daughter who had the horse, and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sure you can ride it. So he got on it

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other sheriff saw, like, get off, and

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled him down, and then Tom or Tim mcgrawl

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. I'm probably making all that, but basically, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a big ordeal. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to go steal a horse. I shouldn't punch a horse, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough, just punch anybody. Yeah, it accidentally steal a

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<v Speaker 1>horse quote unquote, No, I mean it really is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go do something ridiculous but not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, hey, no, not bad. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird entertaining people. Here's a weird thing. Like for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to do your philanthropic stuff for yourself. It

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<v Speaker 1>has to like fill your own heart because people don't

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<v Speaker 1>really people don't care like I do it. I do

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<v Speaker 1>it because it makes me feel good because if it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't for other people helping me growing up, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this spot right now. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's my job to give back what was given

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I just would not be here without the

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<v Speaker 1>help of my youth director at church, my head football coach,

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<v Speaker 1>these people in my life that came out out of

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere and help me get from point A to wherever

1:14:32.360 --> 1:14:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I am now might be point L. Maybe this is

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<v Speaker 1>point Z. I don't know where I all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I give back for no other reason,

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<v Speaker 1>And if it was for any other reason, then it

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<v Speaker 1>just isn't effective. Your hearts really not into it in

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<v Speaker 1>the right way. But here's the thing people don't care

1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:50.160
<v Speaker 1>about that. People care about tabloid covers. So that's why

1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:52.240
<v Speaker 1>people are like, hey, I want to I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 1>do philanthropic stuff for your own like other I will

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<v Speaker 1>be on the curve of Playgirl coming up. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see that? That doesn't I don't think they existed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. But you can bring it back. You can.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have say you were hacked and put a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of your you know, and then that would make

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<v Speaker 1>I was hacked. That would make the news. Yeah, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>would believe. But it's you know, you do so much

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<v Speaker 1>and you do it for you and that's what's great.

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<v Speaker 1>The weird thing is, unless you're again punching a horse

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<v Speaker 1>or cheating on your wife or nobody cares about that stuff.

1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:30.679
<v Speaker 1>That's what's weird. That's what's weird about an icelander Japan

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<v Speaker 1>or I think the people that speak up don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The people that enjoy it are just people

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<v Speaker 1>living their lives and working hard most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But we still all want to be entertained. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still believe that people don't always want to hear

1:15:44.080 --> 1:15:49.479
<v Speaker 1>bad news. People like good news now because there's so

1:15:49.640 --> 1:15:52.639
<v Speaker 1>much bad news. Yeah, it's like over consuming of bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>Our strongest segment is tell me something good every day.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't even people don't even know that too, totally

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<v Speaker 1>a song, and people like I heard your jingle at

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<v Speaker 1>the grocer's. I'm like, no, no, no, that's a real song.

1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:08.519
<v Speaker 1>We've been doing that, that that segment for twelve years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do it every dayb and no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not good Jobay. Some days I'm like, I'm so tired

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<v Speaker 1>of this, But then I remember what it brings to people,

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<v Speaker 1>Like everybody doesn't do it every day here every time,

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<v Speaker 1>like me, I heard every single time, I recorded every

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<v Speaker 1>single time. Sometimes I'm like on a Tuesday, I'm like,

1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I gotta help more good. How about telling me something funny,

1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:30.960
<v Speaker 1>tell me something bad, but but I gotta remember something bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep putting it out there, and it really is a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. It really, it really is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a good dude. I appreciate you. You're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sharing your your life story. Man. It's crazy like

1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you have you have a book in you. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>written every day and you have a book in you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a book in you. We'll get there. I

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<v Speaker 1>still got a lot more songs to put out there

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<v Speaker 1>before I start, you know, showing people behind the curtain

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<v Speaker 1>too far. Here's the Lady a version of Friday Night

1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:14.799
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't put it as a single. Crazy crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wild, pretty wild. Yeah, thank goodness, they didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>that out of a single. I'm you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the wild thing. It's like plant and water out

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't. I mean, that wasn't up to me

1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't put it out. I wanted them to

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<v Speaker 1>put it out. I was like, please put out the single.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was bummed about it, you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bummer. They put out like all ballads and

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<v Speaker 1>I was the only up tempo on the whole album

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't put it out. And there you go

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<v Speaker 1>Number one. Ever know you never you never know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the great thing. You wake up every day. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a million possibilities. I've been finding million dollars. I've won

1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:51.519
<v Speaker 1>a c M awards. I've been had both spectrums and

1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:53.599
<v Speaker 1>both those days I didn't know other one was gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And tomorrow I get fired. Tomorrow I get a TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>You're getting fired. I could very easily. I want to fire.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got find a million dollars like that was

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<v Speaker 1>a that was some intense stuff. Man, I got find seven.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only been a few of us have been like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a club of people who have been fine over

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars by the FCC. Yeah, I'm in the club.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no to be And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you got to, you know, punch something of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>made me reappreciate every single thing, and it reset me

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<v Speaker 1>because I was out of control a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like back. I almost think it was on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>like some weird things said okay McGrady by the caller,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll make you understand and appreciate where you who

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<v Speaker 1>you are and where you came from boom, set me

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<v Speaker 1>right back back in the chair, and it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it just re reset my life and it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't beat this what I was starting to be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's crazy, I think even musically right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I recorded Friday Night, I was at

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<v Speaker 1>a place I never really wanted. Didn't work. Fish don't by,

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't work. That whole them that we had really

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<v Speaker 1>was four or five years old at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>they were promoting the Mine, and I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, and there's pictures of me, this big old beard.

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<v Speaker 1>I just grew it out because I didn't care anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it doesn't matter what I looked like

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<v Speaker 1>like right now, I'm just gonna make some music that

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<v Speaker 1>I love and and all that, and uh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm definitely back in that spot. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't people always tell you what they think of it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately they just want the side effect of a hit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to us to just create great music, fun music,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you to play thank you. It's all on me,

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<v Speaker 1>only on you. I hear the ultra music as it

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped this up when you moved to Nashville and you

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<v Speaker 1>went to college. I'd like to thank the academy. You

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Nashville to study music what what what goal

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<v Speaker 1>in mind? I went to school to study music business

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<v Speaker 1>with the goal of getting a stick around and doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I do. Now, what jobs did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get by just so you could eat? I valet I

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<v Speaker 1>worked at Starbucks and that I parked almost every car

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<v Speaker 1>and make almost every latte. Again, would you ever park

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<v Speaker 1>a car of any country music superstar and be like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be this. I totally want to leave

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<v Speaker 1>a cassette in their car. Man, Now I part. I

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<v Speaker 1>parked a bunch of big songwriters that I get to

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<v Speaker 1>write with now. And I'm right. You were really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually take me like a doll's Eric pass Lay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, appreciate your time. Thanks Bobby. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you've enjoyed this much. I've had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope everybody had a good time listening to us

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<v Speaker 1>talk about ourselves. It's good. Good thing about a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is I can stop it and started stop back. You

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<v Speaker 1>can listen to all the good parts. Do you get

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<v Speaker 1>to do an hour straight interview and talk about everything

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<v Speaker 1>and fully get the whole story out there. If only

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<v Speaker 1>we had five hours Eric pass like, Hey, download Angels

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<v Speaker 1>in This Town. If Eric's out, go see him live.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the Angels in This Town tour right now.

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<v Speaker 1>How long is that gonna lie? So to the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of December and then we'll see we might care it

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<v Speaker 1>in the next year. Go see him. He's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you for being here, Thanks for having the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>What Episodes? Episode fifteen is over. Thank you to everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry, all right, all right, gotta go, Thank you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>to see you next night. By