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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome to episode fifteen of The Bobby Cast. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys being here. Eric Passley is our guest. Number

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Speaker 1: one Song is an artist Number one Songs as a songwriter.

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Speaker 1: Eric Passley will be our guest today. Appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: being here. By the way, we would not be able

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Speaker 1: all right in the house now with Eric Passy who

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Speaker 1: got to watch a few minutes ago me take a

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Speaker 1: That's whatever you want to call it, Bobby, that's yeah,

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Speaker 1: for you knew it. So let ma explain what happened.

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Speaker 1: Because the nurse was supposed to get here at five,

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Speaker 1: I love I love someone who's early. I'm I've only

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Speaker 1: and um, we appreciate that. We a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Angels in this Town. Here you go. This is Angels

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Speaker 1: Let's do these angel visits. And uh, I didn't call

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Speaker 1: an angel, so they are so but it's just go

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Speaker 1: Radio is saying we love it, well, we need to

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Speaker 1: Frustrations are um that we can't really say a whole

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Speaker 1: than some other songs. And that's all right. Well, the

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Speaker 1: you're on the Today Show playing it next week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're rocking with Hoda and Kassie Lee Bunch. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I was really annoying. Thanks for champion it, man. I

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00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: mean you love the way with making sure a ballad

427
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: got hurt by a new guy and I knew and

428
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: I knew it was tougher ballads, but I was like,

429
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: the song is so good, so it comes out right

430
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: she don't love She's just slow listen. I thought it

431
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: was a song of the year. In my mind. We

432
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: got nominated, man, and that was one of the biggest,

433
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, tip of the hats of the song was

434
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean for and I don't know where we got

435
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: like fifteen or something. It was like top five in

436
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: most markets, but it was, you know, to go up

437
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: against where you think about how many forties them on

438
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: number one that year. To be to be one of

439
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: the top five showsen for song of the Year, that

440
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: just meant the world to us. And um, let me

441
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: ask you a question here you go, here's the question,

442
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: because wherever it peaked on the radio chart, which you

443
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: don't know where it peaked? Do you know where it peaked?

444
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: So if it, would you rather have had it be

445
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: at three to one and not be nominated for Song

446
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: of the year, which it was, or like it happened,

447
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: song of the year. Let's not say number on. Let's

448
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: say at number two, right, okay, so let's take number

449
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: one out of right the numbers you hate eleven, six

450
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: and two because they're almost a ten, almost a five,

451
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: and almost a one. Yeah, So would you rather have

452
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: been a number two song on the chart and not

453
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: be nominated or be nominated for Song of the year

454
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: and peak at fifteen on the radio chart? I'm I'm

455
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: fine with how the story went because every night people

456
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: sing along, the fans sing along, and that's that's the

457
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: main point. It's it's it's not that it went. I

458
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: mean it's nice too. It's nice to give your co

459
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: writers a pad on the back as well and go,

460
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: here's a plaque for a number one. But it's, uh,

461
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: it's just it means everything when you're the singer every

462
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: night and you go out and you sing and people

463
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: sing along, and you go, wow, this was a hit.

464
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: You know it was. It was a hit. It was

465
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: a moved people hit, Like there are songs that were

466
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: there have been multi week number one that will never

467
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: be remembered and thought of again, and she Don't Love

468
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: You is the opposite of that, like you'll be able

469
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: to sing this forever and people. I remember when you

470
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: came and we don't get to go and do stuff

471
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: on the weekends. We barely get to see each other

472
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: play because we're both out. I always say, I was like,

473
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: I never get to see shows. And so you came

474
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: and played at our Rhyman show last year and you

475
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: did she Don't Love You by yourself and it was

476
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: just really one of the most moving things that I've

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: seen this an artists go up by themselves and play

478
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: that song. It was very powerful and so to be

479
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: I congratulated. When I was not every song of you,

480
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: I was surprised because because I knew it, it didn't

481
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: make you know, it wasn't in top five songs, but

482
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: it was. It was dancing around and Jen Wayan, who

483
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: you wrote it with, is now part of In Away June,

484
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: and now you know they're making they're right now so

485
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: that's she Don't Love You. I love It's just I

486
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: play this. So we we will do long rides and

487
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: we'll take a bus, but if it's within like four hours,

488
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: we'll just drive a van, right, because it's like, why

489
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I spend The bus has cast like five grands. They're expensive, man, right,

490
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: bus for a weekends, so it's like we'll take it.

491
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: So justin the suit will drive and he'll drive for

492
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: like eight hours at a time. And I have a

493
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: playlist of really slow so I'm just picturing it's crazy

494
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: that make me sleep pull over for some big Max. Well,

495
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't need to, you know. I try to stand

496
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: the health when my results come back from my test,

497
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: but I have like arium everybody hurts cold play she

498
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: Don't Love You, and like he wants to go to

499
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: He's like, dude, you gotta give me something but beat

500
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: and I'm like, after I fall asleep, you can change it,

501
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: like after I passed. So I just I take in

502
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: my powerful music and fall right to sleep. It's just

503
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: and drive, I would say every night before just because

504
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want people to be depressed after

505
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: that song. It's I mean, the point of that song

506
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: was you know, I'm the one that broke her heart

507
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: that much. But the cool thing is people can hear

508
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: it with the years they want to, you know, if

509
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: they're like going through a breakup, like, yeah, she doesn't

510
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: love you, that screw her. Speaking of love and how

511
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: creative you are. So whenever you we're proposing to your

512
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: current wife now my only wife, Yeah, you're your your wife,

513
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: your eighth wife, wivers. So when you proposed, you get

514
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: in the pretty elaborate right with a book I did. Yeah, um,

515
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: look at you man, No, no, I want to hear

516
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: about all this, so let me so it's like it's

517
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of like a buck of us kind of thing, right, Yeah,

518
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: Natalie ge So she gave me this uh photo album

519
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: uh for for one of my birthdays, probably four years ago.

520
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: We've been married almost two years a year and a half,

521
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: two years, but um uh and it was just all

522
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: these photos. We worked together for five years before we ever,

523
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: and for a while we would we would sit on

524
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a little more whiskey and you know, dance a lot closer, literally,

525
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: dance a lot closer. You know, it's about as far

526
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: as it went. But you didn't date a couple of

527
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: times Okay, so you did. So did you secretly date? Okay,

528
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: I would not really because I will say that right now.

529
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: We didn't secretively date. We just always hung out together

530
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: and I would always find something to fix at our house. Like, hey,

531
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: that's hinge. You both stay single because you not say

532
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: did you both stay in a good place because you

533
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: knew eventually you would try to be together? Oh no,

534
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: we had drama. That's fine. Yeah, she's an attractive woman.

535
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm an attractive man. She's definitely attractive woman. And you're cool.

536
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: You're definitely cool. Um, so I'm in that situation now.

537
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't say anything whatever, you know, if you know anything,

538
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: don't say anything where It's like from just just a bit,

539
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: not long. But I had a friend for a long time.

540
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I miss the universe chick it had. I've had a

541
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: friend for a while. We were just friends forever because

542
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: it was like, you can't, I can't date somebody that

543
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: I work with. And so what I learned to that

544
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: is traditions or bs. You know, if you love someone

545
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: you love. I wouldn't do it. I just wouldn't. And

546
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: I'm saying things right now that I haven't said yet

547
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: on the radio. Um, and I just wouldn't do it.

548
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: And so we just in the last month and a half,

549
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: we just had a talk and I was like, Okay,

550
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do here, Like we're gonna date

551
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: or not. And so it looks like we're gonna date. Cool,

552
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: I think it, man, let's go on, let's go right now.

553
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: It's kind of secret it but like in two weeks.

554
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: I think in two weeks it won't be secret anymore.

555
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: People are saying you're putting out like like pictures of

556
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: like who I might be dating, And I to myself,

557
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: what I was saying was like Bobby's just taking random girls,

558
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: you know, and just having different part to their body

559
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: show just to confuse people. Fair, did you fair? But

560
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: no they didn't. Um. But it was the same thing,

561
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: like this person was a friend for a long time,

562
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: which is good. It's a good set up, the best

563
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: set up, because I'm terribly afraid of commitment, and so

564
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: here I am now with someone that I know that

565
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: like it's just as friends have like seen the ups

566
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: and the downs in the middles and walked in on

567
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: peeing that kind of stuff. All that stuff happened, and

568
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: so now it's like Okay, we're gonna try this thing. Yeah,

569
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: and she's seen I mean, she's gotten to see your

570
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: world too, you know. And that's like with Natalie and me.

571
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: It's like she's seen me from Hey, I'm done with

572
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: my record. You know what, who's who's wants some songs,

573
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: you know? And she went Jason Aldeen and I went

574
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: and wrote a song that and that's why I never

575
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: cut it, but he should have. He ended up recording

576
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: a song that sounded just like it. But it was like,

577
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: but she didn't. She realized, Wow, he's actually a songwriter.

578
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: Explain explain her job because you say that, but people

579
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: her job at a music publishing company. They they sign

580
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: like a record deal in a way. They signed songwriters,

581
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: and we also might want a record deal, you know,

582
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: be singers too. But her job was to have the

583
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: songs come from us, and then she would go, Okay,

584
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: I think so and so would like this or whatever artists,

585
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: so she would go to the label or the manager

586
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: or the artist or their public whoever it was. That

587
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: was the right avenue to get the song to him

588
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: to see if they want to record it or not.

589
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: So she would take your songs because you were signed

590
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: to where she was working and pitched them to people,

591
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: and she pitched Barefoot, Blue g Night too. J Cohen

592
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: renee Renee Bell was at Sonny and she held it

593
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: for Jake, and Jake ended up loving and recording it.

594
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Um Barefoot or even if a break, let's come back.

595
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, Let's stop it that for a second.

596
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I want to get back to this proposal book. Yeah, okay,

597
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: because we we we were off track. We'll get back

598
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: on that train track in a second. So you make

599
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: this book of of what? Yeah, so it's it says

600
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: it's all these pictures from all these years of what

601
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: I just talked about, of random pictures of us on

602
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: rider trips or just downtown Nashville or who knows what.

603
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: And then halfway in the middle is said to be continued.

604
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: So I was like, I have an idea. Oh, she

605
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: gave that to you, she gave it to me, said,

606
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: but it said to be continued. So what I did

607
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: was got all the pictures from then on and just

608
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: started putting them in and had Bible verses and cool

609
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: justt memories and dates and all kind of cool stuff.

610
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: She started it. She started putting all that in there.

611
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: So I continued it and then went and got some

612
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: foam and some black, really nice black velvet, you know,

613
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 1: so she couldn't see that there was something built up

614
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: in the back, and uh went up it was it

615
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: was January December, because I didn't want to be cliche

616
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: and have it like one New Year's Eve night. But

617
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: that's fine, two fellas, if you gotta do not, really,

618
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: don't take a day that somebody else has already created.

619
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: But the other thing is, I'm a musician, so we're actually,

620
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: I act you have time to like put a book together,

621
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: but find me one of them my wives and mellowed wives.

622
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: But we uh so I I and actually I ran

623
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: downstairs because I still had to like officially finish it exactly.

624
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: And I had taken a picture at a Christmas party.

625
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: My brother took it for me because he was already

626
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: in on it. Took a picture of us standing in

627
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: front of the Christmas tree. And so when she turned

628
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: to the last page, there was a Christmas tree there

629
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: and at the very top was the star was the ring.

630
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: So I had slid the ring down into that phone

631
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: to where it fit perfectly so it wouldn't fall out,

632
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: and she didn't know anything funky was going on in

633
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: the back of the book. So it actually it took

634
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: you to see it, right. You didn't know it was

635
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: the ring immediately a millisecond. But that's longer. That's long

636
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: enough for a guy saying. But she said, God, you're

637
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: such a two arible person. But okay, it was It

638
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: was awesome process. So you've been married almost two years now,

639
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: year and a half. Yeah, what's what's the what's the

640
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: key to it? At a year and a half? Um,

641
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: loving each other deeply to begin with, and both being

642
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: understanding and uh and and also knowing what you're getting into.

643
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: It's like she knew that I'm always on the road.

644
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Not always, but it's kind of like two different lives.

645
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: It's like you go out on the road, hang out

646
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: with all those crazy girls, and then you come back

647
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: to your what And I'm kidding, do make the heart

648
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: grow fonder or does it make the heart grow sad?

649
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it's it is weird because

650
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: it's like I'm on the road and I'm busy all day,

651
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: so like for for her to know exactly what's going on,

652
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: and I'm terrible at like communicating details. I'm like, so

653
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: we went to here, then we went to there. Oh yeah,

654
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: and and and I also met Garth Brooks or what

655
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: you know or whatever. But it's, uh, I think it's

656
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: I always love going home. And I think when we

657
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: when we get to finally hang out for two or

658
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: three days a week, it's it's really sweet and we

659
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: just project. We make all kinds of things together. This

660
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: today we were building cabinets. Are just kind. He's a

661
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: rock star at it. No, you like it. You're like

662
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: a person. My sister came to tell him last week

663
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: and she and I feel like a gigante. The linen

664
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: chest or cabinet into the eaves of the wall while

665
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: he was on the roads. Are like perfect for each other,

666
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: and I get to come back and finish up with

667
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: the details. Yeah, you're just a creator. I mean you

668
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: create a lot of things, you know. Yeah, go back

669
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: to music, and you're talking about songs, and so I

670
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: don't think of it as look at all the songs

671
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: that you've given away, because you write songs at different

672
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: times for different reasons. Absolutely, there are sometimes when it's

673
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: time to write for yourself and when it's your project time,

674
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: and there are sometimes where you just are writing because

675
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: you you're a songwriter as well. You gotta write. You

676
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: gotta swing the baseball bat. So let's talk about and stuff.

677
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Barefoot Blue Gene Nights, So never could

678
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: you write this with wrote this with Terry Sock Chuck

679
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: and Dylan Altman. So when you wrote this, it wasn't

680
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: written with Jake and mind. We just wrote it. Yeah,

681
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: where were you at Calfour where I used to write

682
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: and the upstairs it's like they finished out the attic area,

683
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: so I'd go up there. Made me look like a giant,

684
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: complete giant person. You are a complete but no, no,

685
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: you are a complete giant person. Nothing needs to make

686
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: Everyone's like you're so tall. I'm like, well, I'm only

687
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: like four inches tall. I CD cover. You know, at

688
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: least you don't have to take arm pits. And that

689
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: was a conversation that you don't have to take arm pits. Yeah,

690
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: so you write this song Barefoot Blue gen Night. What

691
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: did it sound like on the recording? Like if you

692
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: guys like recorded the demo, pretty close to that, Pretty

693
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: close to that. I'll tell you a story on that.

694
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Jake is stand up awesome dude. We actually he actually

695
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: changed a couple of lines, a couple of words kind

696
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: of more a couple of words in the song. Never

697
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: asked us to be a rider on it, which you know,

698
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: it's it's you. Guys also have to say yes to

699
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: that too. A lot of times people well I don't,

700
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: I haven't had this happen yet. But in theory sometimes

701
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: and make believe land not called Nashville. Sometimes you know,

702
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: people will be like, you know what, I think I

703
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: need to change your word there can we have the

704
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: song and you're like, this is in l A man

705
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: with the grap you it's just not cool. I would

706
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: never do that. You mentioned l A. Here's the difference.

707
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: So what's songwriting? The good people are moving here from

708
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: l That's true, there are a lot of this is

709
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: where to move to to write. But so if three

710
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: people write a song, it's thirty three. But if it

711
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: costs like two million dollars to buy like a five

712
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: d square foot house, you probably just have to rip

713
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: off all your friends. Yes, it's less expensive here in

714
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: l A. You can write part of a song and

715
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: get ten percent of a song. Right. There are two

716
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: different kind of song writing rules. There are national rules.

717
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: If there are three people in the room, everybody gets

718
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: a third of the song. Right if you're in l

719
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: A if you contribute ten percent, and that's what's negotiated,

720
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: you get ten of the song. And that's the difference.

721
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: And the two were uh in this theoretical world. Have

722
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: you heard of stories where people just go sit in

723
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: a room and don't really add much, but they're in

724
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: the room and they get writing credit. And this is

725
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: this is the universal. Just one thing I will say,

726
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: there are some just really good vibe people that somehow

727
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: when they step in the room, great songs are written,

728
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: even if they only said like two words like I'm

729
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: totally moving to Nashville. I got good vibes. Everyone knows

730
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I got good No. But I mean that's usually just

731
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: the off day where it's like you're a great writer

732
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: and you're you know, you're just staring at me the

733
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: whole time. But now it's uh songs. It's just a

734
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: wild process. I mean, we all have our on days

735
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: and off days. Um, but it is. But but to

736
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: get back to it, props to Jake. I mean the

737
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: like he changed what was it the I'm never gonna

738
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: uh it was a second verse. It was down blue

739
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: eyes Auburn. Here is sitting looking pretty on the deck

740
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: by my cousin in a launcher, and it was like,

741
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: by your cousin, like we like now we changed that, Natalie,

742
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: it was like, what the crap, Like, we're not like

743
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: twelve or in Sesstuary cousin, but by the deck by

744
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: that it was originally on the deck in a launcher,

745
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: and Jake was like, by the final launcher, dude, with

746
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: the crap, that's just better looking. And there it is,

747
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: did the town new to me? Ruby red lips sitting

748
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: on sweet Teo that was originally shot me a look

749
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: like a shooting staring grabbed the bar of my ogata,

750
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: so that originally was I grabbed the keys to my

751
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: daddy's car. We wrote around underneath the stars, Allen to

752
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: singing our favor was on. I mean he he basically

753
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: he made it totally fit everyone's scene. And he didn't.

754
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: He didn't come back and go, hey, I'll take a quarter.

755
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: He didn't, you know, and uh, I mean props to him,

756
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, with with that amount changed, he just didn't.

757
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: He's a songwriter. He was like, you know what, y'all

758
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: wrote a great song. Here's a cool thing, and he knows.

759
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: On the artist end, he's gonna be fine because he's

760
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna get to play the show every night. That's the

761
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: biggest as long as he wants. So you have Jake

762
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Owen's the biggest song, Well, Jake, Jake, Jake was the messenger,

763
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: so I think perfectly. It's like you wrote the song

764
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: for Jake. Is weird? Did you? Natalie did good job, babe.

765
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I pitched the fire out of that song, and they're

766
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: some artists in town. He would probably be pretty badders response.

767
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: Oh so, I like it will turn the song down. Yeah,

768
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: it's so crazy that Jake got it because that's such

769
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: a Jake song. It worked great, you know, knows something wild.

770
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: Jake and Jared Neeman originally did it as a dude

771
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: as like they both sang on it together, and then somehow,

772
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I actually heard it. It It

773
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: was fun and it was just like, you know what,

774
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep this for myself. I'm not sure

775
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: I said this is a Jake song. Yeah, Jared, you

776
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: are dude, but this is not the time for you

777
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: to be on a song. That's what I was told

778
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: by one of the parties involved. And so they did

779
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: record it as a yeah that and that was the

780
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: first recording I heard of it, and I was like,

781
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: this is fun, sounds cool. Who's Frankie? Huh, who's Frankie?

782
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Who knows? I just said, okay, but the the I

783
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: will say the lighters in the dark in the middle

784
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: of a rock show. Before we started writing the song,

785
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Dylan Altman, who I loved as a brother, We've written

786
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: together a ton of times, tons of songs together. He uh,

787
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: he was telling us about seeing you two on the

788
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree tour like in eighties six, eighties seven at

789
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: jfk Uh. He's like from Jersey. I was like, man,

790
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: you turn around, it's like lights in the dock, you know.

791
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: And uh, it was awesome and all these lighters and

792
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, you two concerts. So we were just that's

793
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of where that line came from, shining like lighters

794
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: in the arc in the middle of a rock show. Day.

795
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: I'll never listened that song the same, Like, I just

796
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: learned all of it. It's like I know how to

797
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: put a car together now, Like I don't know anything

798
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: about cars, but I wanted to get taken apart so

799
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: I can kind of put it back together. But it

800
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: was but this is my first hit as a writer,

801
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: you know, this is the first time, and it was

802
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I had signed my record deal, uh, and then the

803
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: song came out and and it was like, you know

804
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: that I put out a song and it didn't work,

805
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: and put out another song. But it was just it

806
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: was like perfectly a line, like God just said, all right,

807
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: here you go. Here's confidence to know that you still

808
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: that you are supposed to be in Nashville. You're supposed

809
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: to be doing this and uh, even though the artist

810
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: thing hadn't quite taken off, and but guess what, You're

811
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: writing songs that people want to record and want to

812
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: hear and want to sing along too, and radio wants

813
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: to play. And it's just it was a really really

814
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: cool just I'll forever be grateful because it changed my course. Um.

815
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I never doubted that I could do this, but sometimes

816
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, it's nothing's working right now. You know,

817
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I've been writing songs for four or five years straight

818
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: and no one's like had had success with it yet

819
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: on radio. Okay, so that song happens when you get

820
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: your first check. Is it's small? Yeah, I mean it's

821
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: the early it's the early one, so it was like

822
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: the you know, the fifties and forties, so like you

823
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: get like two do you know? That's pretty exciting though, right,

824
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: Like it's amazing check for a song, like wow, I

825
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: just got I just got paid and my song was

826
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: on the radio. It's only amazing the first time you

827
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: get that small check, but it's cool for that first time,

828
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: it's amazing and it's uh actually the first time I

829
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: ever got to check from ASCAP, I think it was

830
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: like for like fifty eight cents and I'm not even sure.

831
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, I think it did. It

832
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: did and I did. I don't. I never even cast

833
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: it because like, why that's it's worth more to have it?

834
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: You know? What was your next songwritering hit? So this

835
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: is while the next one was even If It Breaks

836
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Your Heart that same year, So just been in. I

837
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: had been in town five or six years at that point. Uh,

838
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: just getting to know a ton of people and writing

839
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: and writing and writing, hoping to get a record deal.

840
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: Um wrote this with Will Hoag. He put it on

841
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: his album and all his fans loved it. It was

842
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: kind of like triple A rock Um, which is very

843
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: much country now but um uh. And then Eli young

844
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: Van got to hear it to Cliff Aldridge, which Natalie

845
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: pitched the song of Cliff Um. You can pitch a

846
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: song even though a nartist has already cut it. Absolutely, Okay,

847
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: it happened all the time. Man, I'm gonna cut for

848
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: girls Friday Night. Lady and a Bellum recorded that on

849
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: on the Night album and then and okay, that's true

850
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: about Friday Night. So this is your this is the

851
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: number one for you recorded now if they hadn't went

852
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: one more single, this was the next single, but they

853
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: decided not to go anymore sings. So because they didn't

854
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: put it out of a single, you get to take

855
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: it back and you got to put it out like

856
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: that's like some angels in this town kind of stuffs.

857
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: That's some miracle right there, you know. And it allowed

858
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: my my first album to come out and allows me

859
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: to sit here and you don't even know about me.

860
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: You know that's not true. We met before I knew

861
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: it yourself to be fair fair German out of the

862
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: fourth Theater at the Hall Hall of Fame's Bobby Bones

863
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: is moving in Nashville, and it was like it's like, hey,

864
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: get when I'm from and I was like, where are

865
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: you from? And it was like from Temple, yeah. And

866
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: I was like like, oh, you're Jewish because you lived

867
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: right because northeast of aust Yeah, right where we were basically,

868
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: And so yeah, like our first price conference, which was

869
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: so weird, it seems like ten years ago. Like it

870
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: really it's like two and a half years ago, three

871
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: years ago, three years. How long have we been? How

872
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: long have we been? Three years? Three years? It feels

873
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: like it feels like ten years ago. Oh my goodness.

874
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: It feels like all those all those beautiful nights, all

875
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: these all these wrinkles I have, and great heres from

876
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: from this from this city. You dang, they look good

877
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: on here. Thank you appreciate that a cyber like, look

878
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: at my cyber? Is that gray in there? It's cool man,

879
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: from all the political crab in this town. You're fine.

880
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Whatever I know yet, tell me about this song right here? Angel, Yeah, Angels.

881
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: I seriously just saw Eric Gunderson at the airport yesterday morning.

882
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: Good eight six of them. I don't even know when

883
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: we land at seven am. Wrote this with him and

884
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Jeff Copeland, and yeah, I mean, what are the odds

885
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: of that two giant guys named Eric, who both have

886
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: juvenile diabetes, wrote a number one song together. Eric is

887
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: a good dude, and Eric spent through a lot and

888
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Eric now is like focused and straight up and he

889
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: had a rough time for a bit. And we got

890
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: got to spend a lot of time with them on

891
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: the road because we took him out with this for

892
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: like eight shows or so and they opened forth. Um,

893
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I really like him good. Yeah, they're grinders and they

894
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: had their up and their way down another work the

895
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: way back up in your root for people like that absolutely,

896
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: So okay, so you have that all right, So let's

897
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about all those hit in one year. Like

898
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: I actually I got a CMA Triple Play Award. That

899
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: means you had three number ones in one year. So

900
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have any hits as a writer or a

901
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: singer and had a record deal and had, you know,

902
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: everyone rooting for me, and then all of a sudden,

903
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: the damn broke. You know, all these songs and all

904
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: these songs that Natalie had pitched and just hopefully people

905
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: would latch onto And did you put you angel life

906
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: that a lot of other people or was it pick

907
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: up immediately? Actually? I set up a cor with Eric

908
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: and Jeff, and Jeff brought Eric Anderson and in the

909
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: last second, and let me tell the story, I was like.

910
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: He was like, I mean, it's a cool song, but

911
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: it's not true. There's no devil and an angels at

912
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, but maybe dark angels, but she's

913
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: not she's a good I mean, I was just getting

914
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: all like spiritual, like it's fine. So he didn't love

915
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: it at first. That's so funny. Well, you know it's

916
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: the number one song. Now you have to play it

917
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Yeah, and here we are.

918
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: I love the song to death. So you wrote it

919
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: before the other side, but it hit. They all hit

920
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: at the same time, but it took you. Yeah, but

921
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: they always I was always told, and I always tell

922
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 1: people now it's like, don't write what's on the radio

923
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: because it's probably at least two years old. Like it

924
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: was written two years ago. It takes about that much

925
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: time for it to get demo and then pitched like this.

926
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: That's so funny that he didn't like this song. I was.

927
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean that at the time though, I was writing

928
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: like one to three songs a day, so I'm like,

929
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. You know, as sucks. How many

930
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: songs do you have on hold right now? I have

931
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: no If you had to guess more than ten, I

932
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: don't know. Sure, I don't know. Well, this is the

933
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: wild thing. I'm on the road so much now, um

934
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: singing what I've always what I've wanted to do, and

935
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: also wanting to write. But it's like it takes so

936
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: much to carry one song, you know, as as a

937
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: as an artist and uh as a singer, and so

938
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't get to write as much now. When I

939
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: get to write it it is with like Lady Anna

940
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Bellamore or whoever it is. It's hard. You don't let

941
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: anybody right with them right, you block everybody? Block a

942
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: lot of days because Aaron needs sometime haul not so

943
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: much I'm trying to block people. But we definitely he

944
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: has such little time to write that we definitely try

945
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: to put him in rooms where he'll be successful and

946
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I'll be tired. So why would you send him over

947
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: to do potty party? And when I grow up? Because

948
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: it's fun, because because it's renovating. Man, I just wrote

949
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: a song about not pissing your pants. It's so fun

950
00:47:53,640 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: to play live you realize how many band members members

951
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: need to have that song. I mean, there's some wild

952
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 1: people on the road. Adults. Adults love that song. So okay,

953
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: let's talk about right to you. But it depends you're

954
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: on the song with Charles Kelly. But you also wrote

955
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: this right wrote Yeah, I wrote the Driver with him

956
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: and uh, insta class and you got a Grammy nomination

957
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: the right We totally got Anomie nomination for I can't

958
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: even talk. I just made it up. It really was.

959
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: And this was the first time as an artist I've

960
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: been nominated as a Grammy. We we got a Nami,

961
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: got Anomie for a gram Yeah, you got three nous

962
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: tell you, but the first one for even to preak

963
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: your heart for Song of the Year Country Song. You've

964
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: got two Grammy nominations. Crazy man, I've been nominated for

965
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: a few things. It's cool, um dream there is some

966
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: good song. Proud of this song. It's uh, it's it's

967
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: just it's a it's a just a tip of the

968
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: hat too to all the people, the crew, the bus drivers,

969
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: to everybody that gets us there, everyone that you don't see.

970
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: I I call those people behind the walls of OZ.

971
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: It's like everyone just wants to pretend that that Oz

972
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: just appears this giant emerald city and to fill the poppies.

973
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: And you don't realize how much work and how many

974
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: people are there day in and day out building a career. Um,

975
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: and then you show up and for forty five minutes

976
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: or an hour, hour and a half, two hours, four

977
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: hours if you go to see Springsteen, you know that

978
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: that how much effort it goes into it. Like what

979
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: you I mean you should just like with your role

980
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: in sharing music you love, you know, with with people

981
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: so they know to come see the show. And it's Uh,

982
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: this song is just a shout out to all those

983
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: people that build it, all of us on the stage,

984
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: just all of all the singers that we you know,

985
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: pour our whole lives into this, and then the fans

986
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: that pour their lives into it, you know, like coming

987
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: five hours earlier just to stay on the front road

988
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: to wait, yeah, to see it. It's pretty amazing how

989
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: important in your life it's faith to you. It's everything

990
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: to me. Um, I'm smart enough to know I could

991
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: just stay at home and and uh, that being said,

992
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: you still have to be blessed and lucky enough to

993
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: get songs recorded. But I love writing songs, but I

994
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: love sharing songs with people that I don't think others

995
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: would necessarily share. And I don't make it easy on

996
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: myself in that way. But um, I don't know. I've

997
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: I've never doubted that I was on the wrong path

998
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: that God had sent me on to go like all right, Uh,

999
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: this is what's wild. I've gotten to hang out with

1000
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: so many juvenile diabetics lately, Um, just doing these angel visits,

1001
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: going to hospitals and and go like, hey, there's this

1002
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: kid just got diagnosed. We just go get encourage them,

1003
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, just get to meet all these

1004
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: juvenile diabetics and we get to do all this fundraising

1005
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: for j d r F and all that. And up

1006
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: until I was eighteen, I thought I was going to

1007
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: be a doctor for that, to be a dibet doctor

1008
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: and an inner chronologist and specifically pediatrical and chronologist for

1009
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: kids that have that are being diagnosed with diabetes. And

1010
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: it's wild how God is taking that career that never happened.

1011
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: And now with music, it's like merging it all together

1012
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: right before my eyes. It's like I'm getting to raise

1013
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: money for what I you know, something I believe in

1014
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: to help kids with diabetes, and you know I have

1015
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: it too, So it's it's relatable to when I see

1016
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: them and go, hey, man, you know, take care of yourself,

1017
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: don't Don't you feel better when you test your blood

1018
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: and you know where you're at? You know? And and

1019
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I also tell everybody it's like we could have been

1020
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: born a hundred years ago and died from this, you know.

1021
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: And uh, but it's my faith tells me that what

1022
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: I believe in is true because God's just somehow brought

1023
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: music and another calling that I thought I was gonna do,

1024
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: and now it is is you know, juvenile diabetes, Uh

1025
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: together somehow and and uh and even so much more

1026
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: getting to just help a lot of people and let

1027
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: kids know it's okay to do good stuff. You don't

1028
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: just have to be ridiculous online to be famous. Do

1029
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: you you feel like God put you on earth for

1030
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: a reason. I think you put all of us on

1031
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: earth for a reason. Why did I put you on earth?

1032
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully to glorify Him and let people look up towards him,

1033
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: not be uh, not be misled about who he really

1034
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: is or jaded to to his love. Because someone used

1035
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: his name not for the right reason, you know. And uh,

1036
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think I hope that whenever the time

1037
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: comes when I'm not here anymore, people go, you know what,

1038
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: God used him to bring me closer to God. I

1039
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: was talking to Garth, not in like that's just what

1040
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: I believe, not not for me, and that's totally not

1041
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: looking at me. I um no, I I wonder And

1042
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: I know you're such faith based. And I met your

1043
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: parents who were awesome, by the way. They're fun people

1044
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: and they were missionaries Nomad's right now. They freaking sold

1045
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: their house there in an RV just cruising around him.

1046
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: They are yeah, damn But for them though, like they've

1047
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: lived in some pretty cool places, right, Yeah. Well, my

1048
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: dad was telephone man, like for thirty years. He worked

1049
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: with South Southwestern Bell so he's a manager. And we

1050
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: were the first to have Caller I d in all

1051
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: of Bell County. Was crazy. When it came out, they

1052
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: call me, I'd be like, hey, Carson's the first one

1053
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: to have Colorady in your talent totally and the whole

1054
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: count You had to be the coolest because when it

1055
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: came out, we were maybe even the first in Austin area.

1056
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: It was so cool. If you're below like twenty five

1057
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: right now, you have no idea how color I d

1058
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: changed our lives. Yeah. Used to you had to answer

1059
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: every call and really answer this is what I hate to.

1060
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: You had to answer it with the question hello, Hello.

1061
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: People still do that now and I'm like, you know,

1062
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: it's it's just say hate strange person. Yes, but yeah.

1063
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: So he worked with Southwestern Bell worked their thirty years.

1064
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: He was in the Navy electricians, so it fed into

1065
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: being ah in the telephone company with all those wires

1066
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: running everywhere, it all makes sense to me and like

1067
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: your creation, Yeah, he's I guess he showed me. I mean,

1068
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: he showed me how to wire up stuff. So that's

1069
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: why I'm not afraid to do electrical work or built

1070
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: things he built. We built a lot of stuff together,

1071
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: the create the creative part of you, the faith based

1072
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: part of you. Like it all kind of makes sense,

1073
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: all the puzzle that's slowly going together, getting put together.

1074
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: So when did they decide to be missionaries? So we

1075
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: had a neighbor that was from Thailand across the street

1076
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: and my mom and her were good friends. And then

1077
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: we had a lady named on Sinakim over from she

1078
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: was a I thought she was like like, they're like, oh,

1079
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: she's a teacher in Bangkok. Turns out she's like the

1080
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: head honcho principal at like the best school in Bangkok.

1081
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: So she came and lived with us for two or

1082
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: three months. She was studying out of college there. Um,

1083
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: and so I knew this sweet little woman that would

1084
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: like make the most incredible tie food I've ever had

1085
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: in our kitchen. I was probably a senior in high

1086
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: school then. And uh so my dad retired and it

1087
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we know people in Thailand and let's go.

1088
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: And they went for six months and it ended up

1089
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: being like six years. They speak fluent Thaie. It's pretty amazing.

1090
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: And the coolest thing is are for me, the coolest

1091
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: thing about that was is I got I got to

1092
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: get out of American bubble. I like got to go

1093
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: all around the world and go that's this really, isn't that, fay?

1094
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, like the world is pretty small. Yeah, and

1095
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: the whole scheme of things now and to go. I

1096
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: don't know what that guy just said to me, but

1097
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: I know he's my friend. It's crazy that you say

1098
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: that because I've only just discovered that, like the last

1099
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: two to three years, I never went anywhere. You've been

1100
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: traveling a bunch of cool places, man, Yeah, in the

1101
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: last two years. Because again I grew up in Arkansas.

1102
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: We do. I don't love a kid any money. Yeah,

1103
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: we had to eat. We want a vacation. Why to

1104
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: get school closed? Same here as a kid. We well

1105
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: we hopefully got like one vacation here. So I got

1106
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: spoiled with that. I remember, you got to go with

1107
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: your buddies. I went to call rot. I want my buddies.

1108
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: Parents paid for it, and so very cool. Now I've

1109
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: never been at the country, but I went to London

1110
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago and about myself just

1111
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: to see over a couple of days right now. And

1112
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: so I go and I'm like, okay, this is it's

1113
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: it's really not that far away. And then I went

1114
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: to Japan and that's the other side of the world.

1115
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: And even as I'm there and we speak nothing the same,

1116
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: the people part of it is still the same. If not,

1117
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: they're kinder than us. Like I was just like wow,

1118
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: like they're actually more loving than like it was yes,

1119
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: even though it's the other side of the world. It

1120
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: was like we're all just still kind of the same

1121
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I went to Iceland. It was amazing.

1122
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: The nicest people, Like, everybody's nicer than That's kind of

1123
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: what I've determined. Everywhere ever you go, they're nicer than

1124
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: we are. In the States, well they're just you know,

1125
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: just afraid of you. Because I got on the subway

1126
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: and I felt like in Japan I was a giant.

1127
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: I was to you. Here I got to feel I

1128
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm like Eric Pasley because I was

1129
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: taller than everybody. Started singing sound great, Yeah, I sund

1130
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: it great. I mentioned Garth a minute ago because he

1131
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: said before he died, the last thing you wanted to

1132
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: hear was a dance. That's what he said. And he

1133
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: didn't cut almost didn't cut the dance. And I was

1134
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: talking to him about it and I said, hey, so

1135
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: tell me about the dance and you He's like, listen.

1136
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: I was then the guy that wasn't country. I was

1137
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: then the guy that this isn't shouldn't be on the

1138
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: radio because this is not what country is that I'm

1139
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: swinging him from the ropes on his stage. He said

1140
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: that that that he was not going to cut the

1141
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: dance at all because it wasn't country enough, like that

1142
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: song was not country and had Steve Reynolds not come

1143
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: to him and said, dude, if you don't cut this song,

1144
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: you will regret it, and he said it was that's

1145
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: the only reason he cut the dance incredible song. We'll

1146
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: think about that. They're just a piano part at the beginning.

1147
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: They want. Nobody was doing that, you know, And it's

1148
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: just it's what's happening now too. And Michael, what tol

1149
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: me about? Because Johnny Cash from Arkansas, From Arkansas, you

1150
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: look up to everybody from Arkansas that's made. She would say.

1151
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: People would protest Johnny Cash concerts because he was a

1152
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: country he was rock and roll right, And how do

1153
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: people not see the cycle that happens over and over

1154
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: and over and over and over over and over and

1155
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: over again. It's happened eighty times, yet everyone thinks this

1156
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: time is the wrong time. Right now. I always say, uh,

1157
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, Hank, Hank, Hank Junior in country as Daddy was,

1158
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, and Willie's just some hippie from Texas, you know,

1159
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: God forbid and I and I know that when Kenny

1160
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Rogers and Dollies sang Islands in the Stream like Hell

1161
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: Froze over, and it's like then you go back and

1162
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: you go, oh, you know what. You know, It's like

1163
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: you listen to crews like Floor George, You're like that

1164
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: pretty Dann Good song. That's that's as country as it

1165
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: can be right now now. And it was like and

1166
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: that was only like three or four years ago. So

1167
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: it really is. I mean, people are afraid to change

1168
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: and and and music has always changed because if it didn't,

1169
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: we get really be bored with it. You know, it's

1170
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: it would die. And if you never wanted something new,

1171
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: it would there'd only be the one song ever. I mean,

1172
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a bummer that people do. I mean,

1173
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's scary when things change. I'm not here,

1174
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: but if if it stayed the same, it would die

1175
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: with the people who loved it, it would and the

1176
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: newer generations that's being influenced by ninety different things would

1177
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: not attach themselves to it and it would just go away.

1178
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand. It frustrates me. I mean

1179
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: that really gets under way. But the wild thing that is,

1180
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: like what's what's new was what was old? You know,

1181
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: and it's just it's all close music everything. I was

1182
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: just thinking, like adele Amy Winehouse. I mean, it's British

1183
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: chicks singing what Aretha Franklin did, and yeah with current

1184
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: lyrics and incredible voices. You know, but it's a um.

1185
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: We started covering a dull song on the road snatchat

1186
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: it's fun, it's it's really freaking people out, man, not really,

1187
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: what's uh set Fire to the Rain? Uh? Yeah, how's

1188
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: that starting on the road now? Yeah, you're Angels in

1189
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: This Town Tour. I love the song so much we

1190
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: just decided to call it call the whole tour Angels

1191
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: in This Town Tour. All right, let's talk about this song.

1192
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: I love this song. A song about a girl. Yeah,

1193
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Natalie was in this video, wasn't. Yeah that's right. We

1194
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: weren't even engaged yet, so you were just dating. Were

1195
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: you secretly dating or were you dating? People knew we

1196
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: were dating? Okay, so then you were dating. There was

1197
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: a time that we people couldn't know you were dating.

1198
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: We pretty much just the Yeah, I mean we would

1199
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: secretively hang out ish, so you secretly dated. It was bizarre. Yeah,

1200
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: I know, I get it. Song about a girl talk

1201
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: about it for a second. It's strange and it's perfect

1202
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: coming by this song. So yeah, you're you're saying sometimes

1203
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: on ahead of I the thought was, you know, the

1204
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: original thought was everybody's seeing about tailgates like they're not sexy.

1205
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: It's only the chicks sitting in it that's sexy, you know.

1206
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: And like the water tower. The water tower is the

1207
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: most boring, ugly thing in our town. But if my

1208
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: girlfriend's name is on it, that now that's a song

1209
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: about a girl. You know, you're not drown the bottle

1210
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: of jack unless you're getting over, you know, or finding

1211
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: the guests to ask route. So we were, you know,

1212
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: we were slightly being smart, going like it's not about

1213
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 1: a tailgate or a bonfire. It's about the girl though,

1214
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what this song is about. And

1215
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: I just thought this is the coolest. I think this

1216
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: is the coolest sounding track on my first album, you know,

1217
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: as far as just attitude and cool, which, by the way,

1218
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: I just moved into a new house. I have a

1219
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: new studio set up. There are people in my Oh man,

1220
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: so long three years that I've been your holy crap,

1221
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: it's been a long three years. But there are people

1222
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: that I've attached to as people and in my business.

1223
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: And what I do. You get a lot of stuff

1224
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: thrown at you from me, and like people like hey,

1225
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: my best friend, Hey, let me here's some pretty stuff. Hey,

1226
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: here's the plaque. No, no no, I don't want it that.

1227
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't want it at all, Like that's the opposite

1228
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: of what I want. But I only keep like this

1229
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: is a room. I only have six things up in

1230
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: this room. And it's because of Kelsey Ballerinia have her

1231
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: first number one plaque, because I mean, she's she's killing

1232
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: it now. But I remember Kelsey before she had a

1233
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: record deal. I knew Kelsey when she was just signed

1234
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: as a writer. I knew Kelsey the Christmas party when

1235
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: she got offered a record deal. And then you can't

1236
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: even like I'm going on a radio tour, what I'll

1237
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: do for advice? And then we took her out on

1238
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: our first tour and she cried and I went back

1239
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, Kelsey, you're gonna screw up

1240
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: in a much bigger places than this, Like you you're

1241
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 1: gonna screw up in such big places. Don't worry about

1242
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: Kansas and Raging Idiot Show like, that's the Kelsey that

1243
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: I started with. So I have a plaque of Kelsey's

1244
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: first number one. Awesome. Girl Crushed from a Little Big

1245
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: Town was just a song on the record that should

1246
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: have never been played ever, and it should have never

1247
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: been played. I got so much trouble. Natalie played me

1248
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: that song the second the day after it was written,

1249
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: morning after. Who's sang the like the demo? Hillary, Lindsay,

1250
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: Laurie McKenna. Yeah, they love jockeys, They've told a story. Yeah.

1251
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: I had them on the show as writers and I

1252
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: don't have writers in their office. I love Laura McKenna

1253
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: so much. She's she's awesome. Yeah, can you tell me

1254
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: go to Boston? Yeah, whoever's like in the band, like

1255
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: Natalie stove Ball or Lindsay l They'll go. They'll go

1256
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: right with her Boston. So I have a Little Big

1257
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: Town from their kids. Girl carst sold. But that was

1258
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: a song that I heard on the record while they

1259
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: were still uh drink um drinking was trying to be

1260
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: number one. I was like, you have to your girl.

1261
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: I told Natalie that, I said, this is the only

1262
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: time and at the time, Note radio was not playing

1263
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: girls at all. It was before the tomatoes thing that

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01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: led girls in it was that's a whole other story,

1265
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: you know. But um but I said, this is the

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01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: only time I wish I was a girl in the

1267
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: country radio right now, because I totally cut this. But

1268
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: the thing was, it was so awful for so long,

1269
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: because first of all, I played it, and I got

1270
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: in trouble because I had station managers yelling at me

1271
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: because I was playing a lesbian song, and so I

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: put but it went to number one on iTunes, and

1273
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: so I could at least show them data. And I guess,

1274
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: if you want to, it could be fun, I guess,

1275
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: but it's not really And if you have data, you

1276
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: can always point to it. I'm like, people are spending

1277
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: their all money on this song. So what they did

1278
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: is they tested it. My company spent money testing me

1279
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: talking about it to see if our listeners were turned

1280
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: off and changed the channel by it. I got so

1281
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: much trouble over it. I had a friend that works

1282
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: with Washington Post articles written whatever history happens Boom that

1283
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: songs like the biggest song of blows up. So I

1284
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: keep a plaque up of that. And then I have

1285
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: four records by four different friends and their their vinyl records.

1286
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Chris Jansen, who is just a solid dude, Like you

1287
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: talk about a guy that has been through some rough

1288
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: times and come out to the other side of it.

1289
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Like if that dude in my pinky, I would cut

1290
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: it off and say here's the pinky. I know you

1291
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: need one. So I got Jansen and a record Urban

1292
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: who's always been so kind like things don't even talk about,

1293
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: Like he's so kind. He played he played on Dressed

1294
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: in Black, the title truck track on the album that's

1295
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: waiting to come out someday. Really yeah, that's cool, and

1296
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: you know what that sounds like. He's just like, what

1297
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? I'll do whatever you want.

1298
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm in town, Hey, well are you send me? Like

1299
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: He's been probably the most secretive friend that I had,

1300
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: because I'm like, he never asks for anything. He just cool.

1301
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: I have a Marin Marin record and who was also

1302
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: this Sonice, like she's like the kids and I listened

1303
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: to you every morning that we're in town and I'm like,

1304
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: is this for real? Gold Camp? But stop talking to me?

1305
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: It was weird. So and then I have a Marin

1306
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: because we would old music off the internet. For a

1307
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: Mirror and played on the radio before she before she

1308
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: was five times CMA nominated Mirror and then Avaneric Passley.

1309
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: There I am, there he is, there's are Those are

1310
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: the six things that I have up on the wall

1311
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: in this room. Six people that I'm like, you know,

1312
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: people including any buddy. Well you you probably the first one.

1313
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: You and Kelsey are like the first. Here we go,

1314
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: so chronologically, that's why I'm at the bottom. Not really,

1315
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm not at the bottom. Let's talk about this one here.

1316
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: Never really wanted my very first single, and uh, I

1317
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: just thought it sounded cool, you know, and I was like,

1318
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: maybe ticks will be intrigued by this. You don't want me?

1319
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: Oh now you do? Yeah you do. Did you get

1320
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: into music for girls? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah you do. I

1321
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: mean I always thought about I was like, do you

1322
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: think the coolest kid in school? This is what I

1323
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: always think it's like. And this is for the coolest

1324
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: kid in school also to remember to keep reaching. It's

1325
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: it's like, if you're the coolest kid in school, you

1326
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: don't have time to go to your bedroom and pick

1327
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: up a guitar by yourself and write a really slow

1328
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: love song and hope your parents don't hear you write

1329
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: in a song, you know, or figuring out how to

1330
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: play guitar and uh, and it's uh, you know, I

1331
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: think you know, like Steven Tyler you talking, he just

1332
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: always got made fun of. He's like everybody always made

1333
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: fun of my lips, you know, and all this and that,

1334
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: and I got made fun of in school and I

1335
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: mean make jaggers. I mean he probably got made. You

1336
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: just think, Tom Petty, I don't. I don't really see

1337
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: those as being like the you're you're the homecoming king.

1338
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: But that being said, if you are, don't forget to

1339
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: keep reaching. But it's yes, but we all did it

1340
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: for girls. Absolutely, we're all low life. We just we

1341
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: just never got girls. We never get. We never get

1342
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: girls made us drove us to do what we do

1343
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: and that you'll get there, buddy, be fine by this.

1344
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: The first second. I haven't played this one yet. This

1345
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: is Rewind. Yeah. UM wrote it with Ashley Gorley and

1346
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: Krista Stephano and they didn't do one thing on the recording.

1347
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: That took me in like thirty minutes to finally do.

1348
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: So I sang rewind and uh, and then we reversed

1349
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: it and it was like near We're or something, just ridiculous.

1350
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: So I sang it backwards and then we flipped it

1351
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: back so it sounded like it was like rewind, so

1352
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: where it was it was just ridiculous. So basically, basically

1353
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to sing it backwards. We flipped it over

1354
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: so it was literally me singing it in rewind, but

1355
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: then it sounded like rewind and and the guy's the

1356
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: look on your face is the exact look Gary Lavox

1357
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: gave me, like you did what and why don't you

1358
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: have just saying read wind? You know? And they didn't

1359
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: do what you I don't think they even realized that.

1360
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, that was a weird. He was really

1361
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: ring there, stepping on some who thinks of that to

1362
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: actually go, I'm gonna sing it backwards so I can

1363
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: play it. I had next minutes before my next code, right,

1364
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, let's try it. Actually left long

1365
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: before He's like, I gotta go, and Chris was like fine,

1366
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: but now I love writing with those guys. We we

1367
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: just wrote another hit. Who knows it'll find its home somewhere.

1368
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: I just saw and talked to Stefanough for right like

1369
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: forty five minutes other night. Like, I don't know a

1370
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: lot of people that aren't that on the surface, you know,

1371
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: but I've gotten to know a few because I'm like

1372
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: one of my dearest friends, Lee Miller, Lee Thomas Miller

1373
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: as a writer, like one of my he cares go

1374
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: to I'll go to like go to his house and

1375
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: have dinner. Friend Like, he's like such a and he

1376
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: wrote for those that are listening, and we're gonna have

1377
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: him in here sometime soon. But he wrote um in

1378
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: color from Jamie Johnson. He wrote like a ton of

1379
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: Brad Paisley stuff, like he wrote, you know, big songwriter,

1380
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: but even better human in better dude. So Lee was like, Hey,

1381
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: come play a songwriter around with me. And I'm like, okay,

1382
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: I'll play a couple of funny songs whatever. So I

1383
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: get up. I don't know what I'm doing right, and

1384
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: it's during what's a song writter first called Tin South. Okay,

1385
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is, right. This is

1386
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: how clueless I am. He's like, Hey, we're doing this

1387
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: thing at tip Pan South. Are you in town? And

1388
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: I happen to be in town. I was like one

1389
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: of the Thursday, Friday Saturdays I was in town. I

1390
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I can't play with you. I'll play

1391
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 1: like He's like, just you play like four songs. And

1392
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's not really my thing to get

1393
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: up by myself and do music. Music. I do see

1394
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: up comedy and I add music to it, or I

1395
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: get a big band and we play our songs. So

1396
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: I get up and he's like, hey, a couple of

1397
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: the guys gonna show up and play whatever. I'm like, cool, whatever.

1398
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: So I get up and it's Lee to the left,

1399
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: and it's me and sitting beside me, it's christ As Stephano,

1400
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: who has written a hundred like all right, like he

1401
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: did Carrie Underwood Something in the Water him and he

1402
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: sang it, and he sang it as good as Carrie

1403
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: Underwood can sing. It's pretty good. He's very pretty good singer.

1404
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: And next to Chris was Ashley Gourley. So it's a

1405
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: fourth person. And actually Go has written just recently, he

1406
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: wrote with Dan and Jay and he wrote from the

1407
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: ground up. He wrote Cole Swindell, you should be here

1408
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: with Cole like these guys are. And so it's Lee, Chris, Stephano,

1409
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: Ashley Gorley and me now, which one doesn't belong of

1410
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: that four Noah, the fact, So he was so Chris

1411
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: was so kind to me, and I saw him. I

1412
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: went to Kelsey's I've been to two number one parties

1413
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: in my life, Kelsey's the first number one song and

1414
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: Kelsey's last number one song, and Christmas they're wearing a

1415
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: pim and Joy head and I was like, dude, did

1416
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: you know it was coming? And he was like, no,

1417
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: I had no idea. And so, by the way, I

1418
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: see pim and Joy hats in the crowds all the time.

1419
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's cool, that's all, but good dude. Chris

1420
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 1: Stephan was a good dude. And you wrote that with

1421
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: him and Ashley and my my co players. Yeah, that's

1422
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: the only song. We've only written two songs together, the

1423
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: one I was just talking about in this one. So

1424
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, we just wrote another really good song.

1425
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: As we wrote about Amounts, goes like, well, maybe we'll

1426
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: keep batting a thousand. We'll see that means you're hitting

1427
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: the baseball perfectly. What, Yeah, I think most people in case, um,

1428
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: so this album that that you talked about, what's again

1429
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: take for like this thing to happen faith. Yeah, okay,

1430
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: fair enough. I gotta have faith in listeners and faith

1431
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: in radio to play man, never have faith in radio. Oh,

1432
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 1: I still gotta have faith in them. I know that

1433
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: they want to play great music. They will whatever I mean.

1434
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: I guess I can be frustrated for you. I'm frustrated,

1435
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: but I but I understand that that energy is worth

1436
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: not not worth. It's not good for business to be

1437
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: if you want to get uninspired. We were my good friend,

1438
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: we were talking about it. I said, at the beginning,

1439
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: it's like you got a plant in water. The moment

1440
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: you try to start making something grow that you literally

1441
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: don't have the power to do is when you get jaded.

1442
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: So I don't want to start trying to like push

1443
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: push greenly was out of the ground that I'm not

1444
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: capable of doing. I can. I mean, I could fabricate it,

1445
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: but that's not the person that I am, you know,

1446
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: And that's uh. If you'd like to fabricate it'd be grateful.

1447
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: Punch a horse in the face, right, I shouldn't do that. No,

1448
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: he stole a horse. He didn't punch a horse at

1449
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: he's still a cops horse. Course, yeah, he's still Well,

1450
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: it's a whole long story. He he was actually apparently

1451
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: flirting with the sheriff's daughter who had the horse, and said, yeah,

1452
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: sure you can ride it. So he got on it

1453
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: and then the other sheriff saw, like, get off, and

1454
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: they pulled him down, and then Tom or Tim mcgrawl

1455
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: saw it. I'm probably making all that, but basically, yeah

1456
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was a big ordeal. But yes, I

1457
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: need to go steal a horse. I shouldn't punch a horse, Okay,

1458
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: fair enough, just punch anybody. Yeah, it accidentally steal a

1459
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: horse quote unquote, No, I mean it really is funny.

1460
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: I need to go do something ridiculous but not bad.

1461
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, no, not bad. But you know,

1462
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: it's weird entertaining people. Here's a weird thing. Like for me.

1463
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: You have to do your philanthropic stuff for yourself. It

1464
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: has to like fill your own heart because people don't

1465
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: really people don't care like I do it. I do

1466
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: it because it makes me feel good because if it

1467
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: wasn't for other people helping me growing up, I want

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01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: to be in this spot right now. So I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's my job to give back what was given

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01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: to me. I just would not be here without the

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: help of my youth director at church, my head football coach,

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01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: these people in my life that came out out of

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01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: nowhere and help me get from point A to wherever

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: I am now might be point L. Maybe this is

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: point Z. I don't know where I all my life.

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01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: But that's why I give back for no other reason,

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: And if it was for any other reason, then it

1478
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: just isn't effective. Your hearts really not into it in

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01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: the right way. But here's the thing people don't care

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: about that. People care about tabloid covers. So that's why

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: people are like, hey, I want to I'm like, you

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: do philanthropic stuff for your own like other I will

1483
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: be on the curve of Playgirl coming up. Did you

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: see that? That doesn't I don't think they existed. I

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: don't think so. But you can bring it back. You can.

1486
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: You can have say you were hacked and put a

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01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: picture of your you know, and then that would make

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: I was hacked. That would make the news. Yeah, nobody

1489
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: would believe. But it's you know, you do so much

1490
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: and you do it for you and that's what's great.

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01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: The weird thing is, unless you're again punching a horse

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: or cheating on your wife or nobody cares about that stuff.

1493
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: That's what's weird. That's what's weird about an icelander Japan

1494
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: or I think the people that speak up don't care

1495
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: about it. The people that enjoy it are just people

1496
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: living their lives and working hard most of the time.

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: But we still all want to be entertained. Um. But

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: I still believe that people don't always want to hear

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: bad news. People like good news now because there's so

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: much bad news. Yeah, it's like over consuming of bad news.

1501
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: Our strongest segment is tell me something good every day.

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: People don't even people don't even know that too, totally

1503
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: a song, and people like I heard your jingle at

1504
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: the grocer's. I'm like, no, no, no, that's a real song.

1505
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: We've been doing that, that that segment for twelve years, right,

1506
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: and we do it every dayb and no no, no, no,

1507
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: not good Jobay. Some days I'm like, I'm so tired

1508
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: of this, But then I remember what it brings to people,

1509
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: Like everybody doesn't do it every day here every time,

1510
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: like me, I heard every single time, I recorded every

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: single time. Sometimes I'm like on a Tuesday, I'm like,

1512
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: I gotta help more good. How about telling me something funny,

1513
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: tell me something bad, but but I gotta remember something bad.

1514
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: Keep putting it out there, and it really is a

1515
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: good thing. It really, it really is a good thing.

1516
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: You're a good dude. I appreciate you. You're just kind

1517
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 1: of sharing your your life story. Man. It's crazy like

1518
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: you have you have a book in you. Yeah, it's

1519
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: written every day and you have a book in you.

1520
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: You have a book in you. We'll get there. I

1521
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: still got a lot more songs to put out there

1522
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: before I start, you know, showing people behind the curtain

1523
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: too far. Here's the Lady a version of Friday Night

1524
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 1: that they didn't put it as a single. Crazy crazy,

1525
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: pretty wild, pretty wild. Yeah, thank goodness, they didn't put

1526
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: that out of a single. I'm you know, and that's

1527
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: that's the wild thing. It's like plant and water out

1528
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: like I couldn't. I mean, that wasn't up to me

1529
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: that they didn't put it out. I wanted them to

1530
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: put it out. I was like, please put out the single.

1531
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: And I was bummed about it, you know, I was like,

1532
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: it's a bummer. They put out like all ballads and

1533
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: I was the only up tempo on the whole album

1534
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: and they didn't put it out. And there you go

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: Number one. Ever know you never you never know. That's

1536
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: the great thing. You wake up every day. There are

1537
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: a million possibilities. I've been finding million dollars. I've won

1538
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: a c M awards. I've been had both spectrums and

1539
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: both those days I didn't know other one was gonna happen.

1540
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: And tomorrow I get fired. Tomorrow I get a TV show.

1541
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: You're getting fired. I could very easily. I want to fire.

1542
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: When I got find a million dollars like that was

1543
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: a that was some intense stuff. Man, I got find seven.

1544
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 1: There's only been a few of us have been like

1545
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: there's a club of people who have been fine over

1546
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: a million dollars by the FCC. Yeah, I'm in the club.

1547
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no to be And I mean

1548
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: you got to, you know, punch something of it. It

1549
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: made me reappreciate every single thing, and it reset me

1550
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: because I was out of control a little bit and

1551
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: it was like back. I almost think it was on purpose,

1552
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: like some weird things said okay McGrady by the caller,

1553
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: and I'll make you understand and appreciate where you who

1554
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: you are and where you came from boom, set me

1555
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: right back back in the chair, and it was like, okay,

1556
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: it just re reset my life and it was like, okay,

1557
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 1: I can't beat this what I was starting to be. Yeah,

1558
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's crazy, I think even musically right now. Um,

1559
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: I remember when I recorded Friday Night, I was at

1560
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: a place I never really wanted. Didn't work. Fish don't by,

1561
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: It didn't work. That whole them that we had really

1562
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: was four or five years old at the time that

1563
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: they were promoting the Mine, and I was like, you

1564
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: know what, and there's pictures of me, this big old beard.

1565
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: I just grew it out because I didn't care anymore.

1566
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: I was like, it doesn't matter what I looked like

1567
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: like right now, I'm just gonna make some music that

1568
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: I love and and all that, and uh, I think

1569
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely back in that spot. It's like, you

1570
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: don't people always tell you what they think of it is,

1571
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: but ultimately they just want the side effect of a hit.

1572
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: It's up to us to just create great music, fun music,

1573
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: and and you to play thank you. It's all on me,

1574
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: only on you. I hear the ultra music as it

1575
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: wrapped this up when you moved to Nashville and you

1576
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: went to college. I'd like to thank the academy. You

1577
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: moved to Nashville to study music what what what goal

1578
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 1: in mind? I went to school to study music business

1579
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: with the goal of getting a stick around and doing

1580
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: what I do. Now, what jobs did you have to

1581
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: get by just so you could eat? I valet I

1582
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: worked at Starbucks and that I parked almost every car

1583
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: and make almost every latte. Again, would you ever park

1584
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: a car of any country music superstar and be like, oh, man,

1585
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: I want to be this. I totally want to leave

1586
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: a cassette in their car. Man, Now I part. I

1587
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: parked a bunch of big songwriters that I get to

1588
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: write with now. And I'm right. You were really nice.

1589
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: You actually take me like a doll's Eric pass Lay,

1590
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: thank you very much, appreciate your time. Thanks Bobby. I

1591
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed this much. I've had a good time.

1592
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a good time listening to us

1593
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 1: talk about ourselves. It's good. Good thing about a podcast

1594
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: is I can stop it and started stop back. You

1595
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: can listen to all the good parts. Do you get

1596
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: to do an hour straight interview and talk about everything

1597
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: and fully get the whole story out there. If only

1598
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: we had five hours Eric pass like, Hey, download Angels

1599
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: in This Town. If Eric's out, go see him live.

1600
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: He's on the Angels in This Town tour right now.

1601
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: How long is that gonna lie? So to the middle

1602
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: of December and then we'll see we might care it

1603
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: in the next year. Go see him. He's a good dude.

1604
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 1: And thank you for being here, Thanks for having the episode.

1605
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 1: What Episodes? Episode fifteen is over. Thank you to everyone,

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01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,760
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Speaker 1: I'm hungry, all right, all right, gotta go, Thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: to see you next night. By