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Speaker 1: of Virgin podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: It's like a Spink award or something like that. Sink

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Speaker 2: not the sprink, not that award.

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Speaker 3: What is the expected gain on that play? So it's

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Speaker 3: not average? No, it's an expected This is what the

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Speaker 3: expected outcome in this situation would be versus what is

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Speaker 3: the actual outcome of the play?

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Speaker 4: If I say I expect you to be a nerd,

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Speaker 4: it's based on.

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Speaker 1: That you've been a nerd.

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Speaker 4: Dames Pettigrew says Alex needs a better poker face when

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Speaker 4: Fred starts calling Evan a nerd.

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Speaker 2: Shoot, you know what I'm I think Buffalo is going

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Speaker 2: to win the game.

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Speaker 5: What Buffalo wins?

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Speaker 1: Nope?

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Speaker 2: The Patriots will go into Buffalo, yes, and have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to establish themselves as an up and coming team

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Speaker 2: on the rise. Okay, a playoff contender if you will,

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Speaker 2: they will do it. The Patriots thirty four, Buffalo thirty three.

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Speaker 2: Wowy a late scoring drive.

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Speaker 4: Oh lord, the Bills are four to ozho They're not

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Speaker 4: going seventeen and Oh somebody's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Beat Why not us? Let's do it. This is Patriots Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: It is victory Tuesday here at Jiles Stadium, a big

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Speaker 4: win Sunday night, in front of a national May I say,

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Speaker 4: worldwide audience, the New England Patriots are on the rise,

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Speaker 4: because it.

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Speaker 1: Was you're on the come.

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Speaker 2: But I think you're right worldwide woni Verso I think

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 4: A universe Yeah, So, I mean what else can we

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Speaker 4: say that hasn't already been said over?

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Speaker 1: Just about Drake.

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Speaker 2: May and I just putting up pants back on since

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Speaker 2: the postgame shot we were we were all in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Actually phone lines were stacked at like twelve forty.

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Speaker 1: Five low energy though low show.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say one thing about one negative thing

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Speaker 2: about the show. Yeah, it was about eight million degrees

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Speaker 2: in here. Was was a very unseasonably warm day, but

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Speaker 2: it was really really hot studio.

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Speaker 1: The fans were a little bit like, I don't little.

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Speaker 2: Agree and my hat to have an intervention with the fans.

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Speaker 2: At one point I thought you would make fun of us.

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Speaker 4: No, I expected like, you know, we're going to the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl, and no, it's more like, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: I need to see more.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame them.

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Speaker 2: Some people were just cautious by yeah, by nature. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And it's and we've been heard a lot before, and

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Speaker 6: I mean we're trying to think of women a lot before.

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Speaker 2: Five years title, it's.

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Speaker 3: Been five years at games, five long years.

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Speaker 1: But that was I don't want to say it's a

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Speaker 1: signature win.

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Speaker 4: I talk about this in the PFW TV show because

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Speaker 4: I think there's more wins to come. And I think

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Speaker 4: when I think signature wins, I think of you know,

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Speaker 4: big things. But this is definitely their best win.

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Speaker 7: What about a breakout performance?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think it's absolutely in the breakout Yeah, finish

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Speaker 2: the sentence, best I think since since Belichick left the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right, super Bowl fifty three, That is my answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean hard to compare to Super

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Speaker 2: I didn't say this is as big as a super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: but it's the biggest win since. Now you can make

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Speaker 2: an argument for one of those wins in twenty one,

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Speaker 2: even the buffal will win in twenty It was Obar

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and it was obviously under weird circumstance winding,

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Speaker 3: but the win game in twenty twenty one was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was I think this was bigger.

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Speaker 1: We were all excited after that, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: But it was also that nature of that game that

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Speaker 6: it was like, yeah, but I mean this wasn't yeah,

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Speaker 6: but this was everything we've been talking about of needing

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Speaker 2: And those were the two biggest things that were on display.

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Speaker 6: When you get into the bottom half of the league,

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Speaker 6: that's what you're searching for, trying to find that quarterback.

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Speaker 6: And Drake May continue to prove each week that he's

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's the.

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Speaker 4: Number one story is Drake May and his performance, and

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Speaker 4: it's been getting better every week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: We were saying, you know, well we need to see

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Speaker 1: Well we got it.

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Speaker 6: I mean we got it, and I mean almost to

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Speaker 6: that pass. Great performance by him. I gotta give him credit.

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Speaker 6: That's what I've been looking for. And you know, if

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Speaker 6: he continues to have those kind of performances, he's going

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Speaker 2: Because this guy can make all kinds of plays no

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Speaker 4: And you know he does it with his feet, does

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Speaker 1: Is coming from, with people in his face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just he did it all I said.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure I don't have plenty to say

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Speaker 6: a little sped up and amped up in the first half,

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Speaker 6: Like I think it could have been an even better

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Speaker 6: I think that's for me. The positive coming out is

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Speaker 6: that there's still road to travel, you know, things to

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Speaker 1: For him, but what a performance.

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Speaker 2: Part of that makes me even more enthusiastic about maybe

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Speaker 2: because I agree. I thought it was a subpar first half.

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Speaker 2: I thought he looked a little schedish in the pocket.

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Speaker 4: Came out in the second half and they school and

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Speaker 4: is like, Okay, you know, we're gonna have to score

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Speaker 1: They did right away, and they did they answered right away.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that was I was really focused on the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of getting.

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Speaker 6: It, but they're just so aggressive and I just love

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Speaker 6: going down like that, like, look, the other team's gonna

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Speaker 6: make some plays. Josh Allen's really good. Their scheme is

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Speaker 6: really good. They're gonna get guys open. They're gonna put

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Speaker 6: your guys in bad positions at times, but at the

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Speaker 1: Problems on that play.

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Speaker 6: And that, to me is the fruition of seeing those

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Speaker 6: the best game of his career at cornerback. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he's just looked like he Jones. He was sticky, he

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Speaker 6: playing with the Raabel style.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus.

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Speaker 2: Jones is getting in there.

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Speaker 6: Evan pointed out the one play where Josh kind of

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Speaker 6: they're going to show in the in the coaches in

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Speaker 6: the tape, and this is how we want to play

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Speaker 6: gang tackling everyone around the ball, everyone getting a hit, and.

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Speaker 2: There's three more guys standing over. I'm ready to jump

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Speaker 4: And it's so funny about Marcus Jones because you know,

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Speaker 1: Thinking, man, he's tiny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm as big as he is, you know,

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Speaker 2: And he's on Ken Coleman downfield making it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Most people his sides would be broken in half if

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Speaker 1: they tried that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's no question his size. He gets

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Speaker 2: some tards, get it.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I think gonna play like that.

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady saying, perfect, we want Coleman on Marcus Jones.

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Speaker 1: This is what we're looking for.

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Speaker 6: But like everybody, they gave some punches, they took some punches.

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Speaker 6: It's just a lot different style than I'm used to,

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Speaker 6: and I'm really enjoying it because it's just like we're coming,

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Speaker 6: We're coming, You're gonna make some plays.

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Speaker 1: But guess what they're agree.

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Speaker 2: With your point too about I'd rather if you're gonna lose,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather lose like that than sitting back. I agree.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing. Oh, footsteps steps, footsteps in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. If i'm the Bills fans, fun, If I'm

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Speaker 2: A little was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: It was a bad game for them and it was

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Speaker 2: all penalties, correct, Josh Allen, that's what and that's what

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Speaker 2: they're saying, which is what I thought they would.

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Speaker 3: Say, Allen, like getting there like half a bright.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this is how I thought that

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Speaker 2: they would react to a loss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Allen might be a king, but there's a prince

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Speaker 4: in waiting and he's coming up.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know coming up.

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Speaker 6: When was the last time Buffalo, Baltimore, and Kansas City

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Speaker 6: all lost in the same week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just.

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Speaker 6: Kind of anecdotal, But at the same time, like, I

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Speaker 6: don't know if the if the power structure is changing

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Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Ready to be like, oh, everything's read today on Twitter

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Speaker 2: Now I don't know why, Like Buffalo lost the game

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Speaker 4: No, but if I'm in Indianapolis, I'm thinking my team's pretty.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't from Indianapolis. It was from Boston.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to do I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: Now, well they're playing better than Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Did I think Buffalo played a great game the other night? No,

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Speaker 1: They did, all right.

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Speaker 2: You're going to go to the longest run and no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: And then it proved to me someone who maybe a

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Speaker 6: this has been circumstantial, but you know, even Mina Kimes

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Speaker 6: So I just I I really was excited watching this

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Speaker 1: You did it without.

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Speaker 3: He is like, can they need to extend that guy?

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Speaker 7: And I mean he's he's been freaking awesome.

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Speaker 6: It gives the rotation Williams and Barmore, but they can

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Speaker 3: Changes every time, just firing his hands into the into

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Speaker 3: I had no idea that he was this good when

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Speaker 3: how often could they possibly play him?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a big dude, so you don't want

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Speaker 3: they're doing things very differently in the run defense than

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Speaker 7: They're not too gapping, and that's.

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Speaker 3: Like been a little bit of my brain is like

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Speaker 3: it's watching something that's very different from what they've did

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Speaker 7: The ball to bounce outside.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, in that.

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Speaker 4: Time, I noticed a couple of times, you know, they

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Speaker 4: but you'll take that because you've disrupted the play that

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Speaker 3: They had a lot of really good spy reps in

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Speaker 3: of when he broke the pocket, they they made him

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Speaker 7: Doing it that way.

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Speaker 3: And then I think the biggest thing with Alan when

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Ellis did a good job early

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Speaker 2: He said it. He made a horrific throw. He should

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Speaker 2: have led Shakira and he missed him by a mile

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Speaker 2: He didn't have a lot of huge plays with his legs.

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Speaker 2: He had some good, good runs. I thought he missed

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Speaker 2: good play by Gonso when he covered Keon Kolmer for

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Speaker 2: you know, sort of, I mean the second down, second

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Speaker 2: throw to Shakir that Gonzo makes the incredible dive over

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Speaker 1: So that was just close, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was really close, but I like.

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Speaker 3: It looked like a penalty, but it was closer than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he got there early. But that's very

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Speaker 2: with our arms. Well, that's a penalty. And given a

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Speaker 2: you get there early and it completely eliminates any chance

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Speaker 2: this is not a homer call, like I've seen that

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Speaker 2: that said, the officiating almost ruined what I thought was

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Speaker 2: a tremendous night, like just all around, Like, do we

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Speaker 2: didn't benefit one team with the other. I'm not crying

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Speaker 2: I understand what no one's saying. The penalty has declined

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Speaker 4: So we're all excited, big win, but you got to

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Speaker 4: we got a There's a lot of things that need

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Speaker 1: Talk about some of those. Find a running game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that's the that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: l We.

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Speaker 1: Need we need help here.

443
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

444
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 1: Uh, and so what do you do.

445
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 4: You can bring up Jennings from the practice squad, but

446
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 4: do you go out and get yourself a veteran I

447
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 4: got We got a lot of emails, and we don't

448
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,160
Speaker 4: have to read all of them al but Camarah might

449
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 4: be available. And you know, but what do you go

450
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 4: all out and try to bring in some help or

451
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Speaker 4: do you say we're gonna We're gonna do it with

452
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Speaker 4: what we've got.

453
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Speaker 6: I think you got to bring somebody in. I don't

454
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Speaker 6: know if Kamara will be the guy. I mean, i'd

455
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Speaker 6: be looking for somebody who can take early down carries.

456
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Speaker 6: I think he's more of a just a third down back,

457
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Speaker 6: which I would hope that that's a good point can develop,

458
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Speaker 6: you know, Henderson into And you know, honestly, I had

459
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Speaker 6: a thought kind of how to deal with Romandre. Do

460
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Speaker 6: you kind of make him the third down back at

461
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Speaker 6: some point? I mean, he's great at pass protection, he

462
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 6: can catch the ball. It would reduce his carries. But

463
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 6: if you are that concern, like I just don't get

464
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Speaker 6: the people who are like, well, we have to cut

465
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Speaker 6: him tomorrow and then Travian Henderson will just be the

466
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Speaker 6: one running back and that'll that'll work out great.

467
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Speaker 1: They got to find another person.

468
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Speaker 6: I don't know if Cherrell Jennings is the answer. I

469
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 6: liked him in the summer two years ago, didn't really

470
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 6: notice him much this year, but he is that kind

471
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Speaker 6: of guy. He runs hard. He's kind of a hard

472
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Speaker 6: charger Sode. I wouldn't be opposed to some young, fresh

473
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 6: legs that might give you a little bit more potential

474
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Speaker 6: sense of optimism, whereas if you bring in Zach Moss

475
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 6: or Ezekiel Elliott, you kind of know what you're getting.

476
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Speaker 6: But I think at this point they just need a body,

477
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 6: so they're going to have to They're going to have

478
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Speaker 6: to bring somebody in.

479
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they need a body.

480
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Speaker 3: But like Grimandre and Treveon Henderson are going to be

481
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Speaker 3: a platoon now, and that's going to be your backfield. Like,

482
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Speaker 3: I don't think you're getting anybody at this time of

483
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: year that's going to be better than either of those

484
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Speaker 3: two guys. So you could bring in somebody that's currently

485
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Speaker 3: a free agent. You know that there are a couple

486
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: of guys, you know, Moss is one of them. You

487
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 3: know Jamichael Hasty is on the Dolphins practice squad. I

488
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: think it is, and you know, maybe he's a guy

489
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Speaker 3: that can come in. He's returned kickoffs a little bit

490
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Speaker 3: in his career as well, which I think is a sneaky,

491
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 3: bigger deal in a lot of ways than you know

492
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Speaker 3: what they're going to lose on offense with Gibson is

493
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Speaker 3: that they now have a whole you know, Gibson week

494
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Speaker 3: two is a Special Teams Player of the Week because

495
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Speaker 3: of what he did returning kickoffs and every single time

496
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Speaker 3: they booted it to Remandre on Sunday night, I held

497
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Speaker 3: my breath thinking, oh God, now you know, really quickly

498
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: they actually did something cool with the Special Teams to

499
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Speaker 3: goat the Bills to kicking it to Henderson instead of Remandre.

500
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Speaker 3: I think it was the last kickoff of the game.

501
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: They right before they kicked the ball, they switched so

502
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Speaker 3: Henderson and Remandre like right before they lined up to

503
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Speaker 3: kick it, the Bills had everything set and then they

504
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Speaker 3: were about to kick it and the two of them

505
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Speaker 3: switched places. And so then they actually godd the Bills

506
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Speaker 3: into kicking it to Henderson instead of kicking it to Remandre.

507
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Speaker 3: So not only just because Henderson's you know, got better speed,

508
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Speaker 3: but I think that the Patriots were thinking, oh.

509
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Speaker 7: God, let's not get the ball.

510
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Speaker 2: But even if Stevenson had no ball security issues, I

511
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Speaker 2: don't think his running style is overly conducive to that

512
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Speaker 2: kick return play. He's more of a bruiser than a burner.

513
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Speaker 7: Yep, So I think that.

514
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: You know, Gibson was already playing like a reduced role

515
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: on offense and it was really starting to become Stevenson

516
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: and Henderson's backfield anyways, but the kickoff thing is sneaky

517
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Speaker 3: important because they need every big play they can.

518
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Speaker 4: Get, and aside from that last one they were going to,

519
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: they were going to Remondre see okay, hold on to it.

520
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Speaker 1: Thank god he did.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that's I think it again. It's just,

522
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Speaker 3: you know, it's something that immediately impacted that game on

523
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Speaker 3: Sunday night when Gibson got hurt. Was that now Remandre

524
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Speaker 3: has to return kickoff.

525
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Speaker 2: So I brought up and I don't know if we

526
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Speaker 2: talked about it on the show, Mike, but it's just like,

527
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Speaker 2: why can't my guy do it? Marcus Marcus Jones, and

528
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Speaker 2: I know he's smaller. I know they look at that

529
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Speaker 2: as more of like a running back return. They do

530
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Speaker 2: it now, but the Giants have Olshefski doing it, so

531
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Speaker 2: but I you know, but a lot of teams do,

532
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: and I get it because it's more of it. It's

533
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Speaker 2: turned into more of like we're looking for a crew

534
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Speaker 2: to get through a running play, you might have to

535
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: break through some some congestion. But I just think that

536
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: he's so electric with the ball in his hands.

537
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Speaker 3: Why not they were they were worried in the past

538
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: because we've asked them in the past about this, uh,

539
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, Springer last year and still the same coordinator

540
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Speaker 3: about durability because that is such a high impact play,

541
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Speaker 3: and they they've Springer has talked in the past about

542
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: wanting a bigger body type. Now Henderson is not exactly

543
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Speaker 3: a big body either, but he's a little bit bigger

544
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Speaker 3: and a little bit you know, meteor than the guy

545
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Speaker 3: like Roman Marcus Jones. So that that was his response

546
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Speaker 3: because last year we were all wondering, why isn't Marcus

547
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Speaker 3: Jones returning kickoffs? Now they also mentioned, you know, he's

548
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Speaker 3: already on punt He's already a full time defensive player,

549
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: and so it's another thing on his plate to put

550
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Speaker 3: him on kickoff as well. But I think it's mostly

551
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Speaker 3: about a body type thing that they're worried he's going

552
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Speaker 3: to get hurt.

553
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Speaker 2: I do think it that's the way they look at it.

554
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Speaker 2: As the body type.

555
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you do put him there, you

556
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: might get a lot more touchbacks because teams like, we're

557
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: not going to bother with him.

558
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: I don't know.

559
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's interesting how they how they might approach it,

560
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 6: or they would say we're gonna go kill this little guy.

561
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Speaker 2: Could be I just don't know why you're I mean,

562
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Speaker 2: I I just don't think there's that much more risk.

563
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: The durability thing makes sense to me. And in terms

564
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Speaker 2: of workload, what Evan said about workload, that's adding another

565
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: three or four touches again, like that's that that's significant.

566
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Speaker 2: I just think that your chances of getting lit up

567
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: on a punch or just as much as that was.

568
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Speaker 3: I think a combination like you just laid out, like

569
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Speaker 3: it's the fact that now he's going to have another

570
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Speaker 3: exposure to possibly getting hurt.

571
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Speaker 1: And that's yeah.

572
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Speaker 2: I mean that that's undeniable. The more you give a guy,

573
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Speaker 2: the more chances he has to break down. He has,

574
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: he has been a guy who's broken down.

575
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Speaker 4: So the running game is something we need to look at.

576
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: A lot of penalties for the Patriots, A couple of

577
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: really boneheaded ones the second half by some young guys,

578
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: the roughing the passer one though I looked at that

579
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: over note that wasn't as egregious as some people said

580
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 4: it was. He was he was coming off his block,

581
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: and it was late, it was high, it was it

582
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: was follow through barely late, barely late.

583
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going to just tell you, like,

584
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Speaker 2: I've never ever heard Scott Zolac not complain on a

585
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: call like that. All four of those penalties they played,

586
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 2: and he was like, it's a good call.

587
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not saying I'm saying it was a call.

588
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I thought I was looking for

589
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: somebody else.

590
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

591
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Speaker 4: I don't call it. I don't call it on the

592
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Speaker 4: level of the Farmer one.

593
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Speaker 2: Well, the Farmer one was one of the more egregients,

594
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 2: cheap players I've ever seen. When I was looking up

595
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Speaker 2: when you were talking about James Cook, Mike, what I

596
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: actually was looking up is in my mind's eye. I

597
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: don't remember Cook being back in the game. He did

598
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: have one other play, yeah, after that. I think he

599
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: might have been concussed on that though, really he got

600
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Speaker 2: ragged on.

601
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Speaker 3: There has to be something like he had to have

602
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: like not seen him go down, He had.

603
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Speaker 1: To have held whistle.

604
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: He thought that he was gonna that he was going

605
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: to pitch the ball back to the ballenty Yeah then,

606
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: but I don't care what you thought.

607
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: You have to be more aware.

608
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: Like, let's just say, for argument's sake, his knee was

609
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: barely off the ground. That might have been a penalty anyway.

610
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

611
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: No, those two penalties, and obviously the schooler one on

612
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: the sideline too, But that was in particular getting the

613
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: two penalties that gave him thirty of their like seventy

614
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: five yards on that drive. Like that's the crap that

615
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: gets you beat right, Like, you can't. I'm not a

616
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: big penalties guy. Everybody knows that. Like, I don't really

617
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: like get all worked up about penalties, but when you

618
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: do penalty with penalties like that, you cannot have like that.

619
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Speaker 3: That is, they handed the Bills a touchdown drive but

620
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: by getting new penalties there.

621
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Speaker 2: But the Bills aren't talking about that. Those ones are. Well,

622
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: it's a little different when you're complaining about a call

623
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: and that and those calls no one's complaining about. I'll

624
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: gott to be honest with you. You got I didn't

625
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: think the schooler one was that egregious.

626
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was.

627
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: I thought so he was out of bounds.

628
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: I know it was, but he was like three steps

629
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: out about he barely hit him. Billy tapped, But you

630
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: just said you can't risk it. I know, what are

631
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: you doing?

632
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: Older one like Don and I I'm with Paul, like,

633
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

634
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was in the category.

635
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 7: The other two, the Farmer and Durden ones like that.

636
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: The other two are going to be fine.

637
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 7: That's half the yards on the drive.

638
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: I just feel like they were getting those.

639
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't one it's it wasn't as bad as

640
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: people said.

641
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 7: Still can't you can't you can't give them an option that.

642
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: Look at it again, he didn't seven times they launched.

643
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: He was already I don't care that he didn't launch him.

644
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: They had finished, and you're just gonna say, and he

645
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: didn't hit him, that wasn't that agregious?

646
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: Just not gonna let me talk to you know, he

647
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: doesn't think it was god like?

648
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: Can we just say like it was a great woman

649
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: and just move on? Like like why do we have

650
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: to be.

651
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, we're not going to talk about the game

652
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 4: like bad play.

653
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna break down that play with all

654
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: the things that Drake made and Stefan Diggs did.

655
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to give my opinion on the play if

656
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: you let me, it's fine. Is that Okay?

657
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 4: He was coming off his block and leaning forward and

658
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: he was already in that direction, and yes his helmet

659
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: made contact, but he didn't lean forward with his head

660
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: or anything. He was already It was like the leaning

661
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: Tower of Pisa and he and he hit him, and

662
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: yes it's a penalty, but it wasn't like, oh, what

663
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: an idiot. I thought his momentum was already going in

664
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 4: that direction.

665
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that bad.

666
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: I can see, not what an idiot.

667
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: I can see. Yeah, I can see that.

668
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: I mean, that's but that's one of those plays.

669
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Was an idiot.

670
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 6: No, that's just one of those NFL where the pass

671
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 6: rushers are coming hard at the quarterback. It's that throws

672
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 6: out and it's it's just, yeah, I can't imagine when

673
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 6: it's like going full speed right fighting through a guy

674
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 6: and you look up and then like you have a

675
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 6: millisecond to like somehow avoid the hit.

676
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just I yeah, I thought it was really

677
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: hard for him to avoid that one.

678
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: I really do. But that's just my opinion. That's just

679
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: my opinion.

680
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: No one else is allowed to have one.

681
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Well, if if you let me talk, I can have one.

682
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying is can I just.

683
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: Give it seven times? You didn't think it was a penalty?

684
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it.

685
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain what I saw and you won't

686
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: let me.

687
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: We let you say it like three different times. Can

688
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: we just move on?

689
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: All right?

690
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: How many times are you going to say he didn't

691
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: hit him in the head, he didn't hit him late,

692
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: and he didn't land on ocause he did all three

693
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: of those?

694
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Okay, calm down.

695
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: Then a lot of people want to know, Paul, what

696
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: you thought about the clock management, you know, when it

697
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: comes to Rabel the.

698
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: End of the first half.

699
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are the things they were talking about, you know,

700
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: And I think kids still opened by the way, Like,

701
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: if we want to talk.

702
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: About it, I want to talk about going to wait

703
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: till Wednesday. Before that, I don't want to I didn't

704
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: want to yuck you young today.

705
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: I also want to Yeah, I also want to talk

706
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 4: about yes, so at the end of the first half

707
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: that and also going not going forward on what's.

708
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: Fourth clock management at the end of the first half,

709
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: and the first half interest yesterday, so I blew it yesterday.

710
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 7: They were so disappointed.

711
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 2: No, because I wanted to talk to Mike about it,

712
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 2: and we I'm not going to make fun of the

713
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: people like I normally do. There were some just really

714
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: every time we were on that topic a little bit

715
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: and we were in it and I was ready to jump.

716
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, well she did, she did.

717
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Sophie brought it up, you know, because I did think

718
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: the contrast, let's let's go, let's work backwards, start at

719
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: the end, like so it's there's one second leftno on

720
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: the one yard line, yep, you know, so you go

721
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: forward and get points. You don't go for it, you

722
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: kick the field goal, you know whatever. I thought it

723
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: was a little inconsistent, but Mike and I kind of

724
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: agreed with it. Like I thought it was like we

725
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: both immediately said maybe he felt like it was important

726
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: psychologically to go into the halftime locker room after that

727
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: half with the lead yep. And Mike basically confirmed that yesterday.

728
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: He said, you know, we wanted it, we didn't want

729
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: to do all it. I think he said, we didn't

730
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: want to do all that and then come away with

731
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: no points where I think that the second guess is

732
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: and we never got to it because we ended up

733
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: kind of veering off into other directions in the press

734
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: conference yesterday, and I wanted to ask him, you let

735
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: about ten or twelve seconds go off the clock, and

736
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: you wanted to specifically call the time out at eighteen seconds? Why,

737
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: like you sort of put it so like we're trying

738
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: to thread this needle, so there's no time on the clock. Yep,

739
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: And I get it. Buffalo's calling timeouts. Their goal is

740
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: to get the ball back. But the Patriots executed enough

741
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: so that was no longer really in play like it

742
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: was good. We're talking about the best Buffalo could have

743
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: hoped for was ten seconds or so.

744
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 7: Talking about the end of the game now, No.

745
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the half. The half, the end of

746
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: the game. They executed to perfection. Other than that they

747
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: didn't get it first down.

748
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: And they would have if they hadn't had the penalty

749
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: because Drake had snuck for the first he got it.

750
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: It was not the same possession.

751
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: Before. Okay, but the.

752
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I didn't really understand why Mike called let the time

753
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: go after I would have called the time out with

754
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: like thirty seconds left twenty You know, twenty five seconds left,

755
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, and then now I can

756
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: run anything I want. I think that's more important to

757
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: have my playbook open to me. So then you get

758
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: a situation that happened, you get a penalty because you're thinking, well,

759
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: you got plenty of time to run your three plays

760
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then if we don't get in. I

761
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: think it was third and goal from like the twelve

762
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: or something like that, because I think they got a penalty.

763
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: It did get a penalty, right, so you had plenty

764
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: of time to get you a three plays off and

765
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: then kick a field goal, except for Trey White gets

766
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: called for pass interference in the end zone, which now

767
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: gives you a new set of downs, and now you

768
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: don't have time for three plays. So of seconds left.

769
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: I think if they had called time out earlier, they

770
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: would have had a little more time. Now.

771
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 7: I think that was I know I tried.

772
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: Wait, I think he tried because he tried to call

773
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: the time out earlier because I was watching him on

774
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: the sideline. He was all the way down on the

775
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: sideline and he was barking at the official because I

776
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: think he was yelling for time out like it looked.

777
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: Like they showed him and he was waiting and then

778
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: he went like this at eighteen seconds.

779
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: So maybe he was just trying to get the guy's attention,

780
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: but he looked a little bit, so.

781
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: No one even more upset that I didn't get that question. Yes,

782
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: I could be.

783
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Maybe he was just trying to communicate what you're saying,

784
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: that they were waiting for a certain time, But it

785
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: looked to me like he was like, you know, are

786
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: you going to put some time back on them?

787
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: He did.

788
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: He wanted him to go because they let it run

789
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: to seventeen and he specifically said he wanted it at eighteen. Okay,

790
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: that's what he called it. And that's what you know.

791
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: I was wondering if you when you were ill, I

792
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: think like that eighteen second mark is what And they

793
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: still had a time out, by the way, might be,

794
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: so it wasn't like they might have it.

795
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: They might have it timed out that that's the amount

796
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: of time they need to run a certain amount of you.

797
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: To run any place they want without having to, you know,

798
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: while still saving the time out for a field goal

799
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: if we need it. Yeah, because that's important down there too.

800
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: Now what I would say, Fred, I agree with you

801
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: there's no way of knowing you're going to get a penalty,

802
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: but you had the ability to factor that in, like

803
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: at this point, you're not worried about giving Buffalo the

804
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: ball back. There's not enough time, right, yep? You know.

805
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: So I just thought that that was a they lost

806
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: a play there, and I thought they were fortunate that

807
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: that the incomplete pass only for thy seconds.

808
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know, I thought that was it.

809
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: Now I understand because I think Drake threw it a

810
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: little bit earlier because of that, and I think had

811
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: that been that been like eight seconds left, that's a touchdown.

812
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: And if you notice, I think he did throw it

813
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: because Henry didn't look right and.

814
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: Look, yeah, he wasn't looking. Yeah, that's what I said

815
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 6: to Evan. I said, I felt like he had if

816
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 6: he took a beat more. It's an easy it's an

817
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 6: easy touchdown.

818
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: But I think in his mind's eye he's thinking, I,

819
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: I can't get it, get time again. But definitely a

820
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: it's definitely a whole scenario worth talking about, and Mike

821
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: did get a lot of questions about it yesterday. I

822
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: just thought it was interesting Frabel's response when I.

823
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, you know, like you can it.

824
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: I could have done it this way.

825
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: I go for fourth and ones on my own fifteen

826
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: and then this one I didn't go for But I

827
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: I understood the mentality earlier. And you know what I

828
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: kind of liked Freddy was that it wasn't just the

829
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: numbers say I could get this eighty percent of the time,

830
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: So the numbers say go for it. The numbers, I'm

831
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: sure right, ev like fourth and goal from the one,

832
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean the second goal from the one. I'm sure

833
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: the numbers suggested.

834
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 7: You could go right most of the time.

835
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: So this one he actually taking. But he went with

836
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: the flow of the game. And again you can disagree

837
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: with him. I'm not telling you that he made the

838
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: right call. I think Evan probably sounds like you would

839
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: have gone for it, And I don't think Evan's wrong.

840
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 7: I don't think I would have gone for it.

841
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have either, because I think that his rationale

842
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: like game the game has changed.

843
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have gone for it, very exact justification

844
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: that Rabel gave, Like they outplayed in.

845
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: The first half and they deserve to go in with you, right, There's.

846
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 3: Something to be said for even if it's a three

847
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: point lead. There's something to be said for the fact

848
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: that you have a three point lead and we hung

849
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: with them, and we kind of outplayed them, and we're

850
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: feeling pretty good, Whereas it's very demoralizing. If they go

851
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: for it on foard down and they don't.

852
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: Get it, that's it and it gives the other team moment.

853
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: And was also getting the ball to start the second half.

854
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: So earlier in the first half, I think it might

855
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 4: have been the Patriots' third possession round midfield and they

856
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 4: had that fourth and three that they ended up punting

857
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: another one.

858
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: Now that raised my eyebrows.

859
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 4: Now that was to me, I can unders because if

860
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: the feel of the game, his defense is playing pretty well,

861
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: you give him the ball right there, it's probably sure points.

862
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't upset that he didn't go.

863
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: For but it's another good one, Freddy, I think that's great.

864
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened a lot to Mike

865
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: and I because I know it was late.

866
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: No.

867
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: We talked about a lot of this crowd because the

868
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: minutia and I do like the I think that Vrabel

869
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: has been a little bit more analytically bent than I

870
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: would have imagined. But I was really pleasantly surprised to

871
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: see that he does at least take the game, because

872
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: I think if you went into that game, you would

873
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: have said, this is a game we need points right four,

874
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: fourth and three from midfield, we're going to go for it.

875
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Second and goal with one second left from the one.

876
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: We're going to go for it because we need points.

877
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: Yep.

878
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: But as you said, perfectly, the game unfolded into such

879
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: a way where you would previously pin them back with

880
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: a good baroner punt at the fourteen. I think, of

881
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: course you get help because immediately Buffalo gets a holding penalty.

882
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: It makes it first and seventeen. They did that two

883
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: consecutive possessions. Your defense is doing it, so why not

884
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: try to back them up again? That the second one,

885
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: I think is that the one that led to the

886
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: keyon Coleman fumble. It might have been which set up

887
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: points in the game. So I liked the fact that, yes,

888
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: he's not afraid to go forward and fourth down, even

889
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: in unconventional spots, but he's also not afraid to use

890
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: the way the game is unfolding.

891
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: A slave to the numbers, and he's not a slave

892
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: to the numbers.

893
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: It's not one hundred percent.

894
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: Every game isn't the same.

895
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 4: You know, playing last week against whoever the hell we

896
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: beat last week is not the same as playing against

897
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, you know. So maybe if you're with the

898
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 4: Panthers at fourth and three you do go for it.

899
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: Well, I would think that would be that doesn't matter.

900
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: But I when you're playing Josh like Alan, you don't

901
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: win by field goals, right like that would bet, but

902
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 3: one was a little differ, that would be the game.

903
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: That's why I said going into the game. That's exactly

904
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: how I would that would be every one of those

905
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: if you would ask me before the game.

906
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: Yea, so.

907
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Anything else before we kind of they still can't cover Concaid.

908
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well the tight ends.

909
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: The tight ends in general or the problem. And I

910
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: think both their safeties are free safeties. Like they're both

911
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: guys that are best playing deep zones, you know, helping

912
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: over the top doing that sort of thing. Neither one

913
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: of their their safeties, at least right now. With Craig Woodson,

914
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: who I do kind of like, by the way, like

915
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: I can kind of see the light with him, Like.

916
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: I like him a lot more than he flies.

917
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: Like he can really run and he can hit, uh,

918
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: but he can't cover in man to man and neither

919
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: really can Jalen Hawkins.

920
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Hawkins struggles I think every week.

921
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: They need to figure out, especially when you play a

922
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: tight end that can actually impact the game like a

923
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: like a Kincaid can in the passing game, they need

924
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: to figure out a different formula of how are we're

925
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: going to cover these tight ends, whether that's you know,

926
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: Carlon Davis as a game plan element is on him,

927
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: or Alex Austin or Marte Mapu or just somebody else,

928
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: you know, maybe even giving Kyle Dugger. I know he's

929
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: had issues with it in the past, but I think

930
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: he's been better at it in the past than Hawkins

931
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: and Woodson have shown so far. But whether it was man,

932
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: whether it was zone, Kincaid was opened the entire game.

933
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was tough.

934
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: So we're talking about coming out games, Alex bartskuy Borgalis, Yeah, yeah,

935
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: a little coming out moment there.

936
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 7: Big kick and right down Main Street, Like yeah, what.

937
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 6: I thought was interest saying is very able talked about

938
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 6: like his mechanics and when it looks right, and I mean,

939
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 6: I think we all saw that this summer that there

940
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 6: were certain kicks sometimes where the ball's going ten to

941
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 6: four and don't look quite right. That kick looked perfect

942
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: right down, So I think it's it's funny. It's one

943
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 6: of those things you don't really realize it, but you

944
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 6: have a good sense of, you know, verybel compared to

945
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 6: a kicker, like when it was hit right and it

946
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 6: looks right, you know it, And that's he's he looks

947
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 6: like he's found a little groove.

948
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: He's got to keep it up, yeah, him for.

949
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: His And I know, you know, there is some browsing

950
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: on Paul's shows about how much they've been kind of

951
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: hyping up the kicker. You know, I think he got

952
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: a game ball again ward and then when he came

953
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: into the locker room.

954
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 7: They were chanting his name. I heard that, Oh is

955
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 7: that right?

956
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: And and the whole team, like the whole locker room,

957
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: and like, can we remember that this is like a

958
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: twenty two year old kid, right.

959
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: Like he like he's a rookie that had.

960
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: Some struggles, you know in Miami especially, and they're trying

961
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: to lift the kid up like they need him, like

962
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: he's the kicker and they need him to make kicks

963
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: like that, And so they're trying to boost his confidence,

964
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: and like, I don't understand why, like you know, you're

965
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: giving the kicker a game ball. I don't understand why

966
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: we can't see that like Drake May is awesome, Like

967
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: he doesn't need the game ball to know that he's awesome.

968
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: I didn't really hear anything yesterday that the Felg and

969
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: Mas make fun of them for giving him the game ball.

970
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: Yesterday, I wasn't listening to Felger and Maz. I don't

971
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: want to name the show directly.

972
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: I heard fred Fred Toucher in the morning was making

973
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: fun of the team for chanting his name. I heard that, yeah,

974
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: but like you said, you thought that was disrespectful to

975
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: the player, which I didn't really understand. But I didn't

976
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: hear anybody making fun of getting a game ball for

977
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: this game. I heard them when you missed the two

978
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: extra points.

979
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 1: But it's all.

980
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: Connected though, right, Like it's all And I think that

981
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: this is one thing that I'm not you know, look,

982
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm next as a nose guy. But Rabel, there's something

983
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: about Rabel when it comes to motivation that he's just

984
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: really really good at pushing all the right buttons with

985
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: certain guys and he's clearly trying to inflate Borgolis's ego.

986
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: Like he's true clearly trying to gain get the kids

987
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: some confidence. Uh, you know, early on in his career

988
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: and so far, Like he drilled that kick in a

989
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: really tough environment, you know, with the game on the line,

990
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: he puts it right through the middle of the uprights.

991
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I'm not saying that was very bold, like

992
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 7: did it?

993
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: But like overall, there's there seems to be a lot

994
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: of emphasis on supporting each other on the team. You know,

995
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: they have this new chant at the end of the

996
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: in the locker room, we're all we got, We're all

997
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: we need. Uh, that's that's kind of the new thing.

998
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: It hasn't really replaced. Oh yeah, but they say it

999
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 4: just before that.

1000
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: It's a digs thing. I feel like that came from this.

1001
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: It might it might be. It might be.

1002
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of you know, I love you,

1003
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 4: and like because we hear the miked up a lot,

1004
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: and you know, we hear the whole thing, most of

1005
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: it doesn't get used, you know, but there's a lot

1006
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: of you know, I love you and a lot a

1007
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: lot of that stuff up and some people don't like that.

1008
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: But that seems to be the things that people get upset.

1009
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems to be like something Rabel wants to

1010
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 4: emphasize is that we're you know, we're.

1011
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: All in it together.

1012
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I'm sure every team does that,

1013
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: but it's very very out there.

1014
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: It's very out you know, it's very different.

1015
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 6: Than what we've experienced, you know here in his look

1016
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 6: it came as advertised, this is what I thought of

1017
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 6: Mike Rabel, that he would be a player's coach and

1018
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 6: you know a guy that. I mean, you hear him

1019
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 6: say it all the time, like it will always be

1020
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 6: about the players. I mean, I've heard him say that

1021
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 6: a number of times.

1022
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: I think, I don't.

1023
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: Billy used to say that too, but I you know, I.

1024
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 6: Believe it with Rabel and you know the way that

1025
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 6: he really seems to care about these guys. And I

1026
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 6: think he's done a great job here through through five weeks.

1027
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: He's got the new thing where it's not new, he's

1028
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: been doing it since the beginning of the season, where

1029
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: he stands out in front of the locker room as

1030
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: the players come in that's win or lose.

1031
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does that, and.

1032
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: His energy when he said to Diggs, let's get the

1033
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: hell out of here.

1034
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 7: I was right there. I was like, hell, yeah.

1035
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: You know, let's packed this thing up and let's go

1036
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: real quick.

1037
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 6: I just wanted to piggyback off your thing about poor Gosses.

1038
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 6: I just remembered, uh in the two thousand and six

1039
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 6: training camp when Gostowski was a rookie and Bill pulled

1040
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 6: the thing of make this kick, we're off for the day,

1041
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 6: and he made it. And I still remember the picture

1042
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 6: which was you know, probably taken by Silverman or Eric

1043
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 6: out at that point, but you know, him getting propped

1044
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 6: up and they, you know, everybody picked up.

1045
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: So it's the same thing, you.

1046
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 9: Know, the kickers in their head cases, concerted efforts to

1047
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 9: try to like nurture these guys and build their confidence

1048
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 9: in any chance you get to give them some recognition

1049
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 9: and positive reinforcement.

1050
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: I think you got to take it. It's a tough job.

1051
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 7: You're on that position.

1052
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: It's all between the years, Like all these guys can

1053
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: kick the crap out of the ball, say this all

1054
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: the time.

1055
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 7: It's all mental.

1056
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: It's not like these other positions where it's you know,

1057
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: there's real physical elements to it that you need to

1058
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: kind of have to have it, like all these kickers.

1059
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: It's there are mental cases and so like when you

1060
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: have a guy, like a young kid like that, you

1061
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: know his confidence goes away and he'll have a rookie

1062
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: season like Chad Ryland had here.

1063
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 7: A couple of years ago.

1064
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like when you're competitive and you're trying to

1065
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: make a push here.

1066
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 7: You know you're going to be in a lot of

1067
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 7: games that are closed.

1068
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: You come off an off season, a training camp where

1069
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: you didn't really outright win the job. You know the

1070
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: other guy was just as good as you, and you're

1071
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: wondering what your teammates think about that.

1072
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: I just think that you know, they have a real

1073
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: chance to be playing meaningful football in December and January,

1074
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: and when you're in close games against good teams, like

1075
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna win a lot of games by three points

1076
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: when the time expires, and they need him to be

1077
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: able to make those kicks, and you know that that

1078
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: means channing his name.

1079
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 7: When he comes into the locker room. Then that's what

1080
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 7: they're gonna have to do.

1081
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: Yep. So that's the game, right, Yeah, anything else.

1082
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Just what really study with like the star power and

1083
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: I know we don't like we've been a little critical

1084
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: of the Patriots roster in recent years. They won four

1085
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: games back to years, But I do think that they

1086
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: were very aggressive and free agency this year, and I

1087
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: think they brought in some talent and then some of

1088
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: the younger guys that they've drafted. But this game, to

1089
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: me was about your stars, Drake May, Stefan Diggs, Christian Gonzales.

1090
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if they're the three best

1091
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: players in the team. You put Milton Williams and Barmore

1092
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: probably in that group for five, But you won the

1093
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: game because your your studs performed when you needed them to.

1094
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 7: It were stud like and they were like buffalos.

1095
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs was otherworldly in that.

1096
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean, making that first guy miss.

1097
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had like seventy yards after the catch, right,

1098
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: Like that was like a time machine game for him.

1099
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: He hasn't really done that in years.

1100
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1101
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: That was probably the best receiver wide receiver game for

1102
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: Patriots since like Edelman and Seattle maybe like twenty twenty. Yeah, right,

1103
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, like that was as good of a game

1104
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 3: as I've seen the Patriots wide receiver play in half

1105
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: a decade.

1106
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: That was just like a big standout to me. It's

1107
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: like we've been, and I've been. I'm guilty as anybody

1108
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, Like they just don't have enough talent, they

1109
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: don't have enough difference makers. Well you have difference makers.

1110
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: Maybe you still don't have enough of them starting to

1111
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: make a difference. But the difference makers made a difference

1112
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: Sunday night. And again I'm not I'm not gonna sit

1113
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: here and crap all of the Buffalo. I think I

1114
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: think Buffalo is excellent. I think the Patriots when they

1115
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: needed to be, they were. They were better. When they

1116
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: needed to make plays to win the game, they were better.

1117
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: I mean those blitzes that McDermott dialed up, they all worked,

1118
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: they all got there. Drake just beat them.

1119
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Drake was better, especially to.

1120
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 6: Like looking at that game, who Buffalo's identity was coming

1121
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: in and what they wanted to be, and the Patriots

1122
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: just didn't let them do it.

1123
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: They didn't let the.

1124
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 6: Game get dictated by James Cook and the ground game.

1125
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 6: You know, certainly kincaid Is is probably an exception to that.

1126
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 6: But they were pretty tight with tackling, Like they haven't

1127
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 6: been great at tackling, but Shakiir breaks more tackles than

1128
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 6: anybody as a wide receiver, and yeah he made some catches,

1129
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 6: but well, I was just impressed with that they were

1130
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 6: right there, guys that even you know, even a Jalen

1131
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 6: Hawkins who gives up a catch boom tackled, you know.

1132
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: So those are positive things.

1133
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: I just I think your expectations of going against another

1134
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 6: elite and I don't say another, but going against an

1135
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 6: elite NFL offense, like they're gonna make plays, They're gonna

1136
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 6: make some of your players look bad. You just have

1137
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 6: to be able to fight the long play the long

1138
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 6: game and make your plays when it counts. And I

1139
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 6: just have confidence this defense is starting to do that.

1140
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: Oh right, so really quickly because I try to keep

1141
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: you know it in my pants about Drake for the

1142
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: first hour of the show.

1143
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I tried. I tried my best there there.

1144
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: There was multiple times both live and then watching this

1145
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: game back where I did.

1146
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 7: The Collins were like, oh my god. Yeah, I mean,

1147
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 7: like the second half was a masterclass.

1148
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: Like that was as good of a second half I've

1149
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 3: seen a quarterback play all year.

1150
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 7: He was phenomenal.

1151
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the stats are the stats. Who was

1152
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: thirteen for fourteen, like one incomplete pass went off Trevon

1153
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: Henderson's hands. It was just throw after throw, and I

1154
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: thought of Paulie. I thought of Paul you know, talking

1155
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: about against Carolina's in Miami's like mcdaniels's scheming guys open

1156
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: and guy receivers are popping open, you know, down the

1157
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: field and all that stuff, and that's you know, I

1158
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: love that kind of stuff. I love breaking it down.

1159
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: But this game was we're going to drop that pass

1160
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: and our guy is just going to be better than

1161
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: your guys and he's just going to make play after

1162
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: play after play. Yeah, And that was just incredible. I mean,

1163
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: I know everybody's talking about the throw of you know,

1164
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: hanging all over him, and you know he kind of

1165
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: like blew the read on that one, to be honest,

1166
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: but he you know, makes the throw there to start

1167
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: that drive. But the whole shot to Booty is just

1168
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: as good. I mean, that throat.

1169
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: I underestimated that that throw live and then we went

1170
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: back and I and I looked at it Matt Smith

1171
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: when he came into post game, so she was like,

1172
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: what about the one the booty? And I was like,

1173
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: I gave Booty all the credit for the awareness to

1174
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: get down yeah and stay in bounce. But then I

1175
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: looked back and I was like, that was there's a

1176
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: guy hitting him. Throws to get it there, perfect yeah, perfect.

1177
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 7: Perfect hole shot.

1178
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1179
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: And he actually I think he felt the pressure from

1180
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: the side, so he actually drifted a little bit to

1181
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: the right to buy himself just like an extra half

1182
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: beat before he had to throw the ball, and then

1183
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: he fits it right into the cover two hole. I mean,

1184
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: the one that Henry up the middle of the field,

1185
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: came off the first read, came into Henry the middle

1186
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: of the field and just rips it down the steam

1187
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: to Henry.

1188
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 7: He had one to Remandre.

1189
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: On a check down where he got forced out of

1190
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: the pocket and he's rolling out. He just kind of

1191
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: flicked it to Remandre with anticipation and Remander just broke

1192
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: right into the ball. I mean, just there's like five

1193
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: or six throws in the second half that are just,

1194
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 3: you know, unbelievable.

1195
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 7: I mean, just put it roll.

1196
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: It's interesting because at the beginning of the season.

1197
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 4: A lot of the scribes came out with their best

1198
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: quarterback rankings and a lot of Patriots fans would be

1199
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 4: really upset because in these lists, May would be like

1200
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: in the low twenties or you know, twenty five, and

1201
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 4: you know they would be pissed off. But at that time,

1202
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 4: he hadn't really shown that he deserved to be in

1203
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: the top. But now he's doing that now, certainly the

1204
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: numbers say it, but now the numbers.

1205
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: Are through the roof.

1206
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: But I mean he's knocking on the top ten of

1207
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: anybody's list.

1208
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, now he has to be right, he's a top

1209
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: ten Patriots fans, you have a.

1210
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: Right to be upset if he's not in the on

1211
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: top of those lists.

1212
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think he should.

1213
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: Like the Bills had won fourteen straight games at home,

1214
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: and he went into the MVP's house and now played

1215
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: him right like that. That is, I mean that in

1216
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 3: his second year in the league. And I know everybody

1217
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: keeps comparing him to Josh Allen and I do it too,

1218
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: and I get it. He's way ahead of where Josh

1219
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: Allen was in his second season. Now, I don't know

1220
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: if he's quite as like physically imposing like Allen's like

1221
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: six six, two thirty five, like Allen's a tank like.

1222
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if Drake may is quite built that way.

1223
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: He's not.

1224
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: But from a number standpoint or whatever, Like Allen was

1225
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: not playing this well this early on.

1226
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: He didn't play this good. I mean, he won a

1227
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: lot of games, but he wasn't playing playing like this.

1228
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 4: All right, eight five to five pass five hundred is

1229
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: the hot line. A lot of you been waiting patiently.

1230
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: Uh so let's go to the phones. Anthony's in Seattle.

1231
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: What's up, Anthony?

1232
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: We got our Yeah, we got a guy. That's it.

1233
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to say. We waited forty five

1234
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: minutes to say that.

1235
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: Okay, that's it.

1236
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: That's not the whole thing that that's what he said.

1237
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: If they went to Buffalo, didn't Anthony say that last week?

1238
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: If we go to Buffalo and Drake May does this,

1239
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm just going to call in on Tuesday and say,

1240
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: we got our guy.

1241
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: He's a man of his word.

1242
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 7: It's a great call.

1243
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Patty's an agawab what's up, Patty?

1244
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 10: What's going on? Gentlemen? Yeah, I can corroborate that Polly

1245
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 10: to say that. First off, I just want to give

1246
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 10: kudos to Polly and Fred for picking the bills where

1247
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 10: I didn't have the cojones to pick them, but you

1248
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 10: guys certainly did. My hat's off you guys, what a

1249
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 10: great freaking game. I just wanted to throw a couple

1250
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 10: of numbers at you guys too. That was the first

1251
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 10: game in twenty seven games where Buffalo lost the turnover battle. Yeah,

1252
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 10: and that was our first back to back wins since

1253
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 10: weeks eight through eleven. There was a bye weekend there

1254
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two. And for me, I don't know

1255
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 10: how you guys feel about this, but I know they

1256
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 10: didn't say all that great in the first half, but

1257
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 10: this was the second game that I've seen them raise

1258
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 10: the team around them and the two most important games,

1259
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 10: the two on the road games, was in the Division

1260
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 10: at Miami and on Sunday night.

1261
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 8: That's all.

1262
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 10: That's all I gotta say. I'm freaking psych Let's go baby.

1263
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: All right, And that is that's a great point. Two

1264
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,959
Speaker 4: road division wins right now?

1265
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I mean those are the two you know,

1266
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 6: not always maybe the hardest opponents, but you know, if

1267
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 6: you look at getting to the playoffs, win the division

1268
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 6: every year, the game at Miami, in the game of Buffalo,

1269
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 6: you have circled right out of the gate and for

1270
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 6: able to win those two road games right out of

1271
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 6: the gate. It's it's definitely feather in.

1272
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: That Pittsburgh game might come back to haunt us. Yes,

1273
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: it was in that freaking game. Or the Oakland game.

1274
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the Oakland game too. I look at them.

1275
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh one was right there. Just don't turn the

1276
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: ball over.

1277
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's okay, I didn't go.

1278
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 3: These are all the trials and tribulations that you know, Yeah,

1279
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: they kind of they kind of needed for the season.

1280
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: If you said you were going to be three and

1281
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: two after the first five, like, okay, I'll take that.

1282
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 7: It's a good way to coach it regardless who you beat.

1283
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: Guys, if we didn't turn the ball over, we probably

1284
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 3: win this game by ten points. Just don't turn the

1285
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: ball over and we're going to be fine.

1286
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: So I would actually say, because I hate that that

1287
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: mentality that if you told me, I would actually say

1288
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: I'd be more excited the way it came out, Like

1289
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: winning in Buffalo and Miami and being three and two

1290
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: is better than if they had beaten the Steelers at home.

1291
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go to Ivan in California.

1292
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: What's up Ivan? Ivan? Ivan? Gone?

1293
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: All right, one more, we'll take a break Chris with

1294
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: a T. I A N what's up?

1295
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: Christian?

1296
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 11: Incredible game.

1297
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 8: Didn't go to slates till two o'clock that morning. Woke

1298
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 8: up a stick like I slept eight hours. Went back, baby,

1299
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 8: went back all the way, baby, all the way.

1300
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 11: Let's go.

1301
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: You got it? Who wow?

1302
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: Just that's what I wanted from you in Sunday night.

1303
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: You were a little subdued, but there were people around

1304
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: you could use outside could you not? Could you not

1305
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: really go go full Fred?

1306
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1307
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 7: Okay, we had to walk through bos mafia.

1308
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: That story is great.

1309
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 7: Trying to fight me?

1310
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, or they were they knew who you were? No did.

1311
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: I did see a couple of Patriots fans on the

1312
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: way out and did like a little quiet because like

1313
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: those guys went like they went to a game in

1314
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: that environment with Patriots gear on. Yeah, like that's ballsy,

1315
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: And they came out a lie first of all, which

1316
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: is good, and then second of all, they won the game,

1317
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: So I was like, thanks for coming.

1318
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was loud there, It was loud.

1319
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: They all had their white shirts on their rivalry uniforms.

1320
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: Like the whole thing is so corny, like and I

1321
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 3: just ran about this for a second, Like.

1322
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 2: This isn't college football.

1323
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 3: It's not Penn State like you you guys, like, come on,

1324
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: I don't mind that it's a faterrible.

1325
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: It's that they have a fan base. It's willing to

1326
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: do that. This is the NFL.

1327
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: This isn't high school football in Texas. It's like it's sports.

1328
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

1329
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: So like, okay, like you can do whatever you want

1330
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: all the time. That's that's what that is. That's small

1331
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: city stuff. Like when the Celtics put the green jerseys in.

1332
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: That's different that you're because you're no, it's not okay, no,

1333
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 3: it's because they they give you those.

1334
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: I'd be right, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.

1335
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: And what I will say is you.

1336
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: Can be okay with it, but it's corny like but.

1337
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: The fact that their fans are so into it that

1338
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: they're all I would just.

1339
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: Say that it's cliche. I mean, I'm with you, Fred,

1340
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm not anti fun. I think those kinds of stuff,

1341
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: you know, those kinds of things like.

1342
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 7: I have fun with the football gimmick.

1343
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 2: Winnipeg Jets and hockey. You go and everybody's wearing white,

1344
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: like it's kind of cool. I think it's fun. Now,

1345
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: if you want to say, like the Bills do something else,

1346
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: that's what everybody else does. That's cliche, okay, but I

1347
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: don't have any problem with that whatever. I mean. I

1348
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: think the uniforms look pretty cool.

1349
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1350
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: I think because their new stadium, it's right next to it.

1351
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 4: It's huge and it's like really tall. It towers over

1352
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: the old one. I guess they have PSLs and they're

1353
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: still selling. They're not sold out yet. I wonder if

1354
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: the atmosphere will get hurt a little bit because they're

1355
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: pricing out, you know, the hard core.

1356
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1357
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 3: Just to be clear, I have all the respect in

1358
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: the world for the Mafia. I have friends in the Mafia.

1359
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: I like the Bills Mafia fans. I like their fan base.

1360
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: It's not anti fan base thing. You guys are are

1361
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: so beyond above things like gimmicky white out.

1362
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: That's what I said. You could say it's cliche, but

1363
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: like that's all I'm saying.

1364
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: Like, you guys are a very good football team that

1365
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: probably should win the AFC.

1366
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: So just according to the extracted at the uniforms. Yeah,

1367
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 4: one thing I will say about their rivalry's uniform it's

1368
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: a it's like a silver ru white.

1369
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: So the numbers are very very hard to see?

1370
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Were they hard for you in the press because you

1371
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: could see them happen, which is a big it's a

1372
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: big I could see them veteran move.

1373
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: I had binoculars, but.

1374
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: I would say it was It was not hard on TV,

1375
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: but I could I could understand having that that problem

1376
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: from the press box, not a kind of like when

1377
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: they had the red numbers that year for the Patriot

1378
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: Blue it was kind of hard to see from the

1379
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: press box. Could I just asked you this?

1380
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: Two?

1381
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Fred?

1382
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 6: And you've been going to that stadium for a while now.

1383
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 6: I know it's a dump. I know that there's all

1384
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: kinds of technology issues, but like, are you happy to

1385
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 6: see that old stadium kind of go? Are you going

1386
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 6: to miss that atmosphere that they clearly.

1387
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm not good? I miss it one.

1388
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: Fred brings up a great point though about the crowd,

1389
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: and I do think you run the risk of that

1390
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: it's happening at Yankee Stadium.

1391
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the best self, It's the best crowd in

1392
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1393
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 7: I've never been to.

1394
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: The stadium used to be ridiculously loud and it still

1395
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: gets there but not the same. And there's a lot

1396
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: like those they would watch a Yankees game in the

1397
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: regular season. All those seats are empty around because they

1398
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: cost a million dollars, like no one can afford them.

1399
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: They still get it for the playoffs and stuff, but

1400
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: sometimes you lose a little of that advantage that you have.

1401
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: And I think Fred might be onto something if they're

1402
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: going to try those Evans guys.

1403
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 7: You know, I think it's I think it's different though.

1404
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: Like to me, this what makes the bill stadiums so

1405
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 3: great is that it's very low and so like the

1406
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: fans are like on top of the field. Like it's

1407
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: not one of these like big monstrosity stadiums where you're

1408
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 3: you're sitting like on the moon compared to the game.

1409
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: It's one of these stadiums where it's really like a

1410
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: college football stadium.

1411
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: It was one. It was very similar to the old Foxborough.

1412
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: It was identical at one time, and they had you know,

1413
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: And the one thing I'll say about it is you

1414
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: I have watched a game from the stands there in Buffalo.

1415
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: It's great sight lines. It's a dump. It's not a

1416
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: good stadium, But I understand what Evan's talking about and

1417
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: you will lose something because you're going to have a

1418
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: modern stadium with modern amenities.

1419
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 4: And so I'll tell you the story. My first time

1420
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 4: at that stadium was nineteen ninety five, and it's cold

1421
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: out and if you've never been there as a writer before,

1422
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: you don't know how to get to the press box,

1423
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: especially from where you get dropped off with the team bus.

1424
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: It's not obvious how to get there. You have to

1425
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 4: go through the crowds and everything. And so we win

1426
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: the game and it's like the apocalypse. There's fights in

1427
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 4: the stands, like the fans are just pissed off, and

1428
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: you know, I'm with somebody else that we're trying to

1429
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 4: make our way back to the buses and down to

1430
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: where they're doing the press conferences, and we take a

1431
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: wrong term and we end up in the stands.

1432
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: So now we're looking down into the end zone.

1433
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 4: We have to get over this wall to get into

1434
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 4: the ramp, and so we're fighting away and literally this

1435
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 4: guy's punching each other out. And we get down there

1436
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 4: and I see a cop and I'm like, I'm gonna

1437
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: go over the wall, and the cop looks at me, goes, okay,

1438
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: there's a door right there.

1439
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I will not through that as far

1440
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: as covering the game goes. I will not miss that stadium.

1441
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: I'll miss it for fans. But the fact that you

1442
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: have to go outside to go back inside and then

1443
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: you have to go outside through the mafia coming out

1444
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: of the little door that's not mark right, and you

1445
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: have to like go you're going against the current, like

1446
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: they're coming out and you're trying to go kind of

1447
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: diagonally through. And like, there's no other stadium in the

1448
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 3: NFL where you have to go outside with the fans

1449
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: to go back inside to go to the down to

1450
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: the locker room. It's the only one that's like that here,

1451
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: you know, for people that don't know, there's just an

1452
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: elevator that takes you right down to the field level

1453
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: and you walk through the guts of the stadium down

1454
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: to the locker room. So this one you have to

1455
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: literally go out into the concourse and walk through the

1456
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: concourse as everybody.

1457
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 7: Is trying to leave.

1458
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: And you put on top of that, they just lost

1459
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: a game that they were seven and a half point

1460
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: favorites in and like so now they're pissed that they

1461
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 3: lost the game.

1462
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 4: This is the same place, remember Shane Donaldson. So it's

1463
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: it's it was a December game. There's snow and ice everywhere,

1464
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 4: even on the concourse and where like Evan said, we're

1465
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: walking through the concourse to get back to the press

1466
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: box against the Grain and poor Sean and Shane has

1467
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: he's got serebal palsy. So he's you know, kind of

1468
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 4: walking like he walks and he's got his laptop in

1469
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 4: his arm and he hits a piece of ice and

1470
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: just goes down.

1471
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: Well someone kind of knocked them down. Yeah, Like as

1472
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: Evan said, you're going against the Grain.

1473
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: And the laptop goes flying, it cracks, and he's on

1474
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 4: the ground and people are just walking over him.

1475
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he had I remember, like he had

1476
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: his hands as he's you know, lifting himself up, and

1477
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: he's got no gloves on. They're yelling him, where's your gloves, idiot,

1478
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: like screaming at him, and he's just in a panic

1479
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: because he thinks Fred's going to be pissed at him

1480
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: for breaking the leftop.

1481
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: Right.

1482
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 6: It just makes me a little sad because I love

1483
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 6: when you turn on the TV to watch a game

1484
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 6: and you know exactly what stadium it is and what

1485
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 6: that home crowd is like.

1486
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: And you know, the newer.

1487
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 6: Stadiums are all becoming so just these monstrosities that are

1488
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 6: void of personality and they all kind of feel the same,

1489
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 6: and you don't really like Seattle is a good example of,

1490
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 6: you know, one where it still feels like there's a

1491
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 6: home field advantage. Otherwise, like you're in LA, you don't

1492
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 6: know if the Rams are the Chargers are playing, you're

1493
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 6: in New York, you know if you know, I mean,

1494
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 6: they change the colors, but there's just no personality to it.

1495
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: And that's what I love about stadiums.

1496
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 6: And all you guys are saying, right, you can't continue

1497
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 6: going with the stadium like that, but just makes me

1498
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 6: sad that you know, it's just gonna be another one

1499
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 6: of these huge things that you're like, oh.

1500
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,960
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Speaker 4: If you're gonna play the game board, you gotta learn

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Speaker 4: to play right.

1536
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: DraftKings is all about REPONSI it's more fun when it's

1537
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: for fun, so played responsibily.

1538
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 12: DraftKings the crown is yours gambling problem one plus Age

1539
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 12: and eligibility varies by jurisdiction.

1540
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Speaker 14: Dickens, that's your last night on the stairs. I'm sure

1541
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 14: you were.

1542
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any more update, Tom Gibson,

1543
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: But along with that, do you.

1544
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 5: Anticipate having to make some kind of move to sure

1545
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 5: up to running back?

1546
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 14: Well, No, don't have any update yet. Got back late.

1547
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 14: Some guys are still going through some some test and

1548
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 14: some medical evaluations. Hopefully I'll know more of this early

1549
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 14: this afternoon, but we'll keep you updated if we If

1550
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 14: we add anybody go to roster, or we feel like

1551
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 14: we need guys at any position. We think that like

1552
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 14: that for you and your message your first year here.

1553
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how much you're thinking about

1554
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: buying right now, but.

1555
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 12: Just getting a win like that, do you feel like

1556
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 12: it does anything in terms of your message resonating with

1557
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 12: your team.

1558
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 14: I don't. Maybe I don't know if I look at

1559
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 14: it like that. I think that you know the the

1560
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 14: buy in, you know, I don't know how you necessarily

1561
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 14: define that, you know, just trying to show them, I

1562
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 14: think what they're capable of doing when we can do

1563
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 14: it together in all three phases and play up up

1564
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 14: to our identity. Because it wasn't great. I thought we

1565
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 14: played really hard. I thought we thought we flew around

1566
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 14: on defense. I thought we tried to hammer the football out.

1567
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 14: Sometimes we did sometimes we did it. They made some plays,

1568
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 14: But I thought we have, even offensively, a lot of

1569
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 14: room to grow special teams. Wise, we didn't have the

1570
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 14: impact that we maybe or we're used to the previous

1571
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 14: weeks or some of the phases. So I think that,

1572
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 14: you know, we continue to show them those things and

1573
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 14: what we need to improve the things that we do well.

1574
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 14: I do think that they are trying to uphold the

1575
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 14: style of play that we want to play with, and

1576
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 14: then we'll just it's every week is a challenge, and

1577
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 14: then we'll move on. And you know, we're prepare to

1578
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 14: go down and play the Saints that are coming off

1579
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 14: a huge win at home, and you know, that's where

1580
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 14: we're at, you know. So I'm happy for the players.

1581
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 14: I'm always happy for the players. They're the ones that

1582
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 14: go out and do it. I appreciate the coaches efforts,

1583
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 14: but you know, we we expect, you know, a good

1584
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 14: week of practice. We expected to go in and and

1585
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 14: and play well and give ourselves a chance to win.

1586
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 14: And that's what we did. And again hopefully we can

1587
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 14: build some confidence by the way that we played.

1588
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: You know, we gave up a.

1589
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Speaker 14: Touchdown drive to start the second half, but our offense

1590
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 14: came back and answered, and they went down and tied

1591
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 14: the game, and we came back and made a kick

1592
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 14: and executed the time and the clock and you know,

1593
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 14: gave them, you know, an MVP quarterback very little time

1594
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 14: to to be able to do anything. So those those

1595
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 14: are things that we had to do and so maybe

1596
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 14: that get we can show them and says what's capable of?

1597
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 14: This is how we'd like to maybe do it a

1598
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 14: little bit differently, But I mean I don't question to

1599
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 14: buy in. I mean, I think that they're trying. We

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 14: just go a lot of things we can improve on.

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Speaker 9: Helped along pint of those lines that to min a

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01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 9: drill at the end that you know by trad to.

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: Win the football game, what does that do for It's

1604
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: like that, I.

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 14: Mean, you have to be putting those situations, and I

1606
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 14: think you have to be in that situation to to

1607
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 14: be able to feel it and you know, execute it.

1608
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 14: Even the last play, the third downplay, we're trying to

1609
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 14: you know, catch one out of there to the to

1610
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 14: the flat and see if we can't get somebody to

1611
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 14: break free out there. And you know, we've been talking

1612
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 14: about not throwing that ball away in that particular situation again,

1613
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 14: not to necessarily unless it was to lose yardage, and

1614
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 14: he made a great decision to not lose yardage but

1615
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 14: also keep the clock going. So I think that those

1616
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 14: situationally is where he's starting to improve. Not that those

1617
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 14: situations aren't critical, but there's so much that he and

1618
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 14: Josh and Ashton and the offense are doing, you know,

1619
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 14: with him right to understand those first and second down,

1620
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 14: you know, operations procedures versus pressure and third down, and

1621
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 14: then it's like, okay, two minutes and oh, by the way,

1622
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 14: like we want to be a good five minute football team.

1623
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 14: We want to because that means that we're ahead and

1624
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 14: that we're controlling the ball and the clock and that

1625
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 14: we're using all the time. And but there there's certain

1626
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 14: things that probably are a little lower on the list

1627
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 14: of priorities. There's a lot more first and second third

1628
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 14: down snaps than there are five minute snaps, not to

1629
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 14: make those less important, but you know, we're we're practicing

1630
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 14: in them, and we're showing him and he's understanding. And

1631
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 14: so that was good to because when you get into

1632
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 14: that situation, you're pretty much in a it's two minutes,

1633
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 14: but it's really five minute. You're trying to, you know,

1634
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 14: take care of the clock to the best of your advantage.

1635
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 14: So a lot of things that we can coach from

1636
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 14: and and hopefully have some confidence.

1637
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 6: With with the decision at the end of the how

1638
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,440
Speaker 6: to kick the fields.

1639
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Speaker 8: I'm just kind of curious your thoughts on that one.

1640
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 14: I know, I just didn't want to do all that

1641
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 14: and not come out of there with points, and that

1642
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 14: just the way that the first half had gone, I

1643
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 14: felt like, and not to look at the other side

1644
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 14: of the coin, but to come out of there tied.

1645
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 14: I just felt like at least we could say, you know,

1646
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 14: we we were we were in the first half, and

1647
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 14: that we were in a position to kind of do

1648
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 14: some things, so you know that may change next week

1649
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 14: or the following week. And just felt like at that

1650
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 14: point how it was going, just wanted to make sure

1651
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 14: we came out of there with with points and a

1652
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 14: good feeling going into half.

1653
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 12: Do you do you have a plan for those types

1654
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 12: of situations going into a.

1655
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: Game like that one like you and your staff saying

1656
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: for the PAP we might have to be impressive and

1657
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: go for six. But then did it change just based.

1658
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 14: On the flow of the game, And I think at

1659
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 14: that point in time it did. I mean, we plan

1660
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 14: on trying to be aggressive and not reckless. You know,

1661
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,480
Speaker 14: those are conversations that that stretching I have that we communicate,

1662
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 14: you know, to Josh and to you know, everybody else

1663
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 14: m certain times throughout the game where it's third and

1664
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 14: eight and if we get it close enough that it's

1665
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 14: four down, we try to tell them that and if

1666
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 14: we don't get any yards or lose yards and then

1667
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 14: we make a decision to punt. I think that the

1668
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 14: communication there is going well, trying to be one play ahead,

1669
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 14: you know, but to Stefan's credit, you know, I mean

1670
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 14: we're trying to coach that when a guy's not playing

1671
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 14: the football, you know, I mean, go back and create contact,

1672
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 14: show the official that you're making attempt to go back

1673
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 14: to the ball and go through the defender when he's

1674
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 14: not playing the ball. So I would have liked to

1675
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 14: reward him with a touchdown. Wasn't able to do that.

1676
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 14: But yeah, I think that there's games where you certainly

1677
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 14: want to be you know, you feel like you need

1678
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 14: to be aggressive, especially a team that's averaging close to

1679
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 14: thirty four points a game.

1680
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 1: The chance so either.

1681
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: Watch it back or even in real time.

1682
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: What did you see on the past from Drake made

1683
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: a days where he was like being you know, half

1684
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: falling over as he got the ball out.

1685
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 12: Just what did you see on my play?

1686
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, we made it was

1687
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 14: an eight yard loss to a twelve yard game, you know.

1688
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 14: Just you know, he's continuing to grow and gain confidence

1689
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 14: and show us and show everybody and show his team

1690
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 14: and himself the ability to operate in the pocket, ability

1691
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 14: to operate uh and scheduled move the pocket plays and

1692
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 14: then also off schedule, so putting the ball and good

1693
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 14: locations and only you know, not throwing behind guys and

1694
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 14: you know, going on the move and putting the ball

1695
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 14: in harm's way.

1696
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: Anything in particular.

1697
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: You liked above the approach to rogues.

1698
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 14: And we had a good week of practice think that

1699
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 14: they were really you know focused on what the environment

1700
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 14: would be and what that would look like and how

1701
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 14: we would have to operate and function. I thought that

1702
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 14: was really important for a lot of young players that

1703
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 14: maybe haven't been in a game of that magnitude. It

1704
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 14: was good to see them, you know, respond and operate.

1705
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 14: And we had the one I guess, you know fall

1706
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 14: start on the you know short yard is that was

1707
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 14: you know, disappointing how close that was. I mean, that's

1708
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 14: how they call it some of these guys and you

1709
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 14: know hunters line of scrimmage penalties frustrating, you know what

1710
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 14: I mean, looking over at official that's fifteen yards away

1711
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 14: and I'll have to you know, try to get some

1712
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 14: clarification on that and how we're going to do this

1713
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 14: going forward, but proud of the guys and how the

1714
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 14: way they competed.

1715
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. You never get into

1716
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: what is that hideous shirt you're wearing?

1717
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: It come with the frog colors, that shark.

1718
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 1: It's a polo. It's a green polo.

1719
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 2: That's not green.

1720
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: It is green, and it's got mustard all over the

1721
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: front of it.

1722
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: So it's like almost like the color of my Granny

1723
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 2: Smith apple.

1724
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 1: But that's not green. That's lose.

1725
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: That's a good point ugly shirt distracts people from his face.

1726
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: Well wow, wow, Yeah, he's.

1727
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: Just so mean. I can't believe he's ruined that. Wow.

1728
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: What is that bag that you're wearing? That's another great moment.

1729
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: All right back here on Patriots on Filtered eight five five,

1730
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Speaker 4: Pats five hundred is the hotline podcast at patriots dot

1731
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 4: com is the email address. We've got a ton of emails,

1732
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna get to some. I know you're calling

1733
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 4: in as well, but I just want to get to

1734
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 4: some of these emails.

1735
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: Nicholas writes in, and he's Esquire, by the way, so.

1736
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: We should probably take this one a little bit more.

1737
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 4: Certain, Yes, Philip, so I says Pat's fan here from

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Speaker 4: Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Love the show.

1740
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 4: It's one of the few podcasts that offers great insights

1741
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 4: and isn't afraid to keep it real. Shout out to

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01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,440
Speaker 4: Paulie says, now that we've beaten.

1743
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo, I'm not the only one who keeps Now.

1744
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 4: That we've beaten Buffalo, what do you think our potential

1745
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: is for the rest of the season.

1746
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: Do you think the Patriots will start to get more

1747
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: attention after this win?

1748
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: It's a good yes and yes.

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01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 4: The reason why I asked that wanted to read that

1750
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 4: email because I wanted to ask everyone, now that we've

1751
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 4: have you reset your expectations?

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 6: I have, I said no, I've been on nine wins

1753
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 6: all along, and I'm staying on nine wins.

1754
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: I have not moved.

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 6: I mean, I think there'll be some ups and downs

1756
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 6: continuing along the way. You don't know what injuries are

1757
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 6: going to strike. They need to fund a running game.

1758
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 6: But the trajectory is pointed up.

1759
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 4: My mind was floor six, ceiling ten, and now I'm

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01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 4: veering more to the ceiling.

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01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 6: I mean, i'd say the thing that's maybe affecting it

1763
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 6: a little bit, not quite yet, but it's just the

1764
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 6: lack of the top dogs really being the top dogs.

1765
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 6: And now they're right now some new top dogs. But

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01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 6: we'll see if they stay top dogs. So that's that's

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 6: why I'm more interested in. It's just is the power

1768
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 6: structure of the AFC going to all get a little

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 6: bit changed this year?

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01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: I have the same expectations of the Patriots because I

1772
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 3: thought they were going to be a much improved team,

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01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 3: and I thought Mike Rabel would help and that Drake

1774
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 3: may would get better and all the things that are happening,

1775
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 3: But the rest of the AFC in their schedule has.

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01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: Gotten He's anything, if possible.

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01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: It's somehow it's even easier than what it looked like

1778
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: coming into this season. H factin Baltimore right now, the

1779
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: Bengals look like they might start Joe Flacco moving forward.

1780
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 3: They's traded for Joe Flacco with the Browns, so he

1781
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: might be their quarterback. Who knows what is going to

1782
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 3: be going on in Baltimore By the time the Patriots

1783
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 3: played the Ravens. You know, who's going to be healthy

1784
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 3: for Baltimore. Are they even going to have a chance

1785
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 3: still to be competitive this season at that point? If

1786
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: these injuries don't get better for them quickly, so that

1787
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: Ravens game now doesn't look so hard. Now the Tampa

1788
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 3: game looks harder. I would say Tampa looks like a

1789
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: real legitimate contender. But overall, I think that's the biggest thing,

1790
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: is like this schedule is yeah.

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01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: And I do my expectations have risen for the Patriots too,

1792
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 2: And everything you haven't said about the AFC is factual.

1793
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: But I did not think that, and I kept my

1794
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: caveat all year was unless Drake may X, right, I

1795
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: think you've seen Drake may X like he's making the

1796
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 2: year two leap right in front of us. He's getting

1797
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: better seemingly every game, and that's the big thing. Like

1798
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: Washington last year, I don't think was that much better

1799
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: than they were the previous year. But the quarterback lifts everybody, yep.

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Speaker 2: And in the second half Sunday night, the quarterback helped

1801
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: lift everybody yep. And I can't you can't convince me

1802
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 2: that the defense doesn't play better because it has belief

1803
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: right in you know, the plays that are being made,

1804
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: but you know, look at the buy in for guys

1805
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: like Booty who's getting one or two targets every week,

1806
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: but seems to make a play or two every week.

1807
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: He's the new David to Mario Douglas. To Mario Douglas

1808
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: like throwing blocks at five foot eight and you know,

1809
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 2: getting called out by his head coach two weeks in

1810
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: a row for his physicality. Like there's a buy in,

1811
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: And I think it's stems from a belief that they

1812
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,879
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that if they all do their jobs,

1813
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: he'll make sure that he does his and he's gonna

1814
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: help us win. And I do think now I would

1815
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: have thought eight, you know, eight wins was about the moment.

1816
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: I'm up. I'm almost to the point where I would

1817
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: say that if Mike's nine ends up happening, I think

1818
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: you might look it back at that and say, that's

1819
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 2: a bit of a disappointment. That means they lost to

1820
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: a couple of teams that you probably don't expect them to.

1821
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they I'm glad you mentioned the pop block

1822
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: because that was on Diggs's thirty yard catch, the one

1823
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 3: that he broke the tackle and ran after the catch

1824
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 3: with If you watch that on the All twenty two,

1825
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: there's like four Patriots sprinting to Buffalo bills to get

1826
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 3: blocks for Diggs once he breaks containing and once he

1827
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: breaks Bishop's tackle, they have booties blocking his guy. Pop

1828
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: Douglas is shot out of a cannon to try to

1829
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 3: get in front of Diggs to block the unblocked guy.

1830
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: Austin Hooper converts into a blocker and is blocking down

1831
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 3: the field. On the play, Garrett Bradbury is like twenty

1832
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 3: yards down the field chasing it from behind, and like

1833
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 3: that those types of things when you see that, like

1834
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 3: that is like culture, Like when you talk about building

1835
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 3: a culture and like effort and finish and all the

1836
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 3: different stupid tropes that Rabel has, Like I know, like

1837
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 3: some of that stuff's like corny and like cliche, but

1838
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: like that is like that is where it comes out.

1839
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 3: It's not like the raw Ross speeches and all that

1840
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. It's when you turn the film on

1841
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 3: and like there's blue hats just flying to the football

1842
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 3: at all times on offense and defense. Like that's that's

1843
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 3: the team that is bought into what they're doing.

1844
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: Yep, iron shopper AND's iron right.

1845
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 4: Michael writes in remember when Fred was wared that Diggs

1846
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 4: was being too emotional before the game. I think after

1847
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 4: a ten for one forty six game. He can be

1848
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 4: as emotional as he wants. He's the type of player

1849
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 4: that feeds off that energy and absolutely plays his best

1850
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 4: when he's playing with emotion. I understand the concerns, especially

1851
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 4: how he has acted in the past, but he is

1852
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: now an eleven year vet and it's definitely grown up

1853
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 4: quite a bit. My opinion, he was the exact kind

1854
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 4: of veteran leadership we needed on this team.

1855
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: It's the biggest surprise for me.

1856
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, well, listen, okay, he can

1857
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 4: blob me if he My point was, what if it

1858
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 4: didn't what if he didn't get those targets? That was

1859
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 4: my thing is he's all worked out that if it

1860
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 4: doesn't work out, you continue on, because I yeah, I mean,

1861
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 4: it's great that he he showed up and showed out

1862
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 4: so great. Great, But you know, I stand by what

1863
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: I said.

1864
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: Last Wednesday in the locker room.

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01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 6: There was just something, a little bit, a little fire

1866
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 6: in his eye that he could kind of sense that

1867
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 6: he was looking at this game different. And I don't

1868
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 6: know what. I don't know what Stefan Diggs was like

1869
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 6: early in his career. I don't know what kind of

1870
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 6: guy or leader he was within the locker room. I

1871
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 6: wasn't there to see it, but I wasn't expecting him

1872
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,919
Speaker 6: to be such a force on this team that everybody

1873
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 6: seems to really be rallying around. And I think the

1874
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 6: wide receiver room needed this leadership. They needed this kind

1875
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 6: of guy who can also back it up with the

1876
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 6: talent on the field. And you know, I think that's

1877
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 6: part of what's keeping guys like Booty in line or

1878
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 6: you know, allowing them to stay patient. I mean, I

1879
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 6: said to Paul Evan, like mac hollins, he has no

1880
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 6: problem running like sixty go routes a game and just

1881
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 6: clearing out like he's not really getting targeted at all.

1882
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 6: But he's the kind of guy that Josh knows that

1883
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 6: you're going to block and you're going to run down

1884
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 6: the field today and you might not have a catch.

1885
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 6: And I think that, you know, so I think that

1886
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 6: room has a good dynamic last year, and it's completely

1887
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 6: changed from what it was last year when they were

1888
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:35,919
Speaker 6: just up and down and immature.

1889
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: Diggs has been really good in the leadership role. You know,

1890
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: I'm still a little skeptical of how long like long term,

1891
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 2: if that will continue, but yeah, they've gotten everything they

1892
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: could have possibly wanted out of him on and off

1893
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: the field.

1894
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's two hundred yard games in a row.

1895
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: So like as much as this was like getting up

1896
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: for Buffalo for him, like this game was obviously special

1897
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: for him, but even still like the Carolina game, it

1898
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: was already really good against Carolina and you could feel

1899
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 3: that he was starting to perform at a much higher level.

1900
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 3: But I mentioned this to you guys off the air.

1901
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if we posted it, but he when

1902
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 3: he ran on the field, he didn't come out for

1903
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 3: early warm ups, he didn't come out for T shirt warmups.

1904
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 3: He came out for jersey warm ups, and he ran

1905
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 3: on the field and he was like dancing like as

1906
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 3: he was running on the field, and he just like

1907
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: had this like swagger to him that like you could

1908
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 3: just tell that he was like in a zone already

1909
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 3: in the game hadn't even started yet, and like, when's

1910
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: the last time a Patriots receiver has had that kind

1911
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: of swag?

1912
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: You know, he's than anyone we've had for a while.

1913
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a comment that he made to Melissa

1914
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: Stark too. I forget what it was now though, but

1915
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: it was just like talking. It was like there's a

1916
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 2: lot of conference, a lot of swag. Yeah, he was

1917
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: ready to go. He's all sweaty before the game, he

1918
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: was all lathered up. You could tell he had a

1919
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: little different look.

1920
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: Ye get to New Orleans this week.

1921
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, this seems Mailer calls himself the gripes of wrath

1922
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas. First time emailer, medium time listener. Which

1923
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 4: decision by the Bills do you think was worse one

1924
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,879
Speaker 4: trying to throw it on Christian Gonzalez's direction on critical

1925
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: downs or two wearing a blizzard uniform while it's eighty

1926
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 4: three degrees out. In all seriousness, my question is do

1927
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 4: you think our receiver corps Stefan Diggs looks so good

1928
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 4: because of the lack of secondary of the Bills. I

1929
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: thought I remembered hearing that they were banged up in

1930
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 4: missing key pieces. Just wanted to get your thoughts. Although

1931
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 4: I know you will provide insightful analysis, I'm really looking

1932
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 4: for confirmation bias that we back.

1933
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Also, overall, great.

1934
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 4: Performance by the Patriots and I'm stoked for the rest

1935
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 4: of the season. Let's bring it back, Fred, say it

1936
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 4: with me. Fifteen to two was still on the table.

1937
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: It is.

1938
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 3: Their defense does have some injuries, not so much in

1939
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 3: the secondary. You know, they didn't have Oliver in this game,

1940
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: and Matt Milano was in and out of the game,

1941
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 3: and I don't think he really played in the second half.

1942
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, his absence was not in the second half. But

1943
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: that's yeah, I thought they got beat by I actually

1944
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: think the Bill's defense played pretty well. I think they

1945
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 2: got beat by just superior individual performances by the quarterback

1946
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: and the number one wide receiver. Yeah, like, how like,

1947
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you do different if you're

1948
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: like on the sideline with Stefan Diggs on that plank.

1949
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: I mean, and I would say, pick any of one

1950
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: of three or four plays. You know, maybe they could

1951
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: have tackled him better at times in the course of

1952
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: the field, But those toe taps on the sideline, It's

1953
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: not like he was wide open and easily caught the

1954
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: He had like tiny window that Draked threw it through

1955
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: and then unbelievable hands catches while getting your feet down

1956
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: that thirty one that with the anticipation on the broken

1957
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: play down to the sideline. That wasn't bad coverage. Yeah, No,

1958
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 2: And that's having like a tiny window to throw it.

1959
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 6: How many times did we see that the shoes on

1960
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 6: the other foot when it was Josh Allen throwing those

1961
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 6: passes to Stefon Diggs and you're like, it's third and

1962
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 6: eight and you're like, and it's just an absolute pinpoint.

1963
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 6: He taps his toes and first down. I mean, it

1964
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 6: was nice to be on this side.

1965
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: I actually because I didn't I don't think a whole

1966
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 2: lot of the Buffalo defense and all. And we talked

1967
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: to a guy from the Buffalo News, Jay Skirsky, before

1968
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: the game. I said, is the run defense as bad

1969
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: as the numbers look? Or is it? No? No, he goes, well,

1970
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: they struggle to stop the run.

1971
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 14: It's not.

1972
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: It's not deceptive. They have a hard time. And you know,

1973
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 2: I thought they did a pretty good job against the run.

1974
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: And then you're looking and you know they blitched at times.

1975
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: They just got pressure with four at times, like I

1976
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: just thought they flushed Drake out of the pocket. They

1977
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: made him make some quick throws. I thought guys were

1978
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: in the area. I didn't see a lot of just

1979
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,919
Speaker 2: like blowing coverages. I just saw Drake May and Stefan

1980
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Diggs be better than the guys that were out there.

1981
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: I think that's what's more most encouraging about it is

1982
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 3: that there wasn't like any of the like bills beating

1983
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,560
Speaker 3: themselves things. And they do a really good job in disguising.

1984
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 3: They were spinning the dial like crazy on them, you know,

1985
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 3: going one high, two high pictures, and they were they

1986
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 3: were really trying to confuse him, and he read it

1987
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,839
Speaker 3: out like he saw all their different disguises are dropping

1988
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 3: safeties from like the first and second level into the

1989
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 3: DP paths and things like that, and he's seeing it,

1990
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: you know, processing it cleanly.

1991
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1992
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 3: The throwers you know, throw to Henry right up the

1993
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 3: scene he sees, you know, he try it, thinks he

1994
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: has one on one on the outside, and they spin

1995
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 3: it into too high and he comes right off it

1996
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 3: and goes right into the middle of the field to

1997
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: the open part of the zone. And like, they're just

1998
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: different things that they were doing that We're just they

1999
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: were just executing at a higher level than the right.

2000
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Dan and Poughkeepsie, what's up, Dan?

2001
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 4: Hey?

2002
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: You guys?

2003
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 12: All right?

2004
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 8: So I really wanted to gush and ask about one

2005
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 8: specific play. It was the first play on the game

2006
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 8: winning drive, by Drake May. Obviously the best play I've

2007
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 8: ever seen the kid make. But Evan, do you know

2008
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 8: the play I'm talking about?

2009
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 1: Yep?

2010
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 8: Okay, do you have any running series on what Josh

2011
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 8: was cooking up on that play? Like I saw Will

2012
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 8: Campbell go to the other side? Yeah, do you have

2013
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 8: any running series?

2014
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 3: I was just curious counter bash baby, Yeah, it's count

2015
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: bash and they did not bash.

2016
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, they thank you, Fred.

2017
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an option play, as I way over explained

2018
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 3: it last week. Yeah, option play and they just they

2019
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 3: just didn't block it very well. And Bill's just had

2020
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting, like these are little things. And

2021
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 3: Drake May said that, you know, he was looking at

2022
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 3: the stills when Borgolis was kicking the field goal, partially

2023
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: because he didn't want to watch, but he also said

2024
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 3: that he messed something up in the Running Game. And

2025
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 3: I do think there are you know, I don't know,

2026
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 3: I'm not in the meeting rooms. I can't tell you

2027
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 3: exactly what they're how they're telling him to coach things,

2028
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 3: but there are times where they run in the Run game,

2029
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 3: specifically where they're running a play and I'm like, yeah,

2030
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: that play is not going to work against that front

2031
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 3: and they don't get out of the play. And I

2032
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 3: thought that was one of those times because they the

2033
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 3: Bills had a three technique over inside the b gap,

2034
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 3: over the guard and the tackle that we're pulling, and

2035
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: Bradbury has to get all all the way from center,

2036
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 3: snap the ball and get all the way out to

2037
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: the three technique and block the three technique. And I

2038
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 3: just don't think that you're going to be able to

2039
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 3: do that like that. That three tech is just gonna

2040
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 3: fly right up the field exactly like he did, and

2041
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 3: he was on top of Drake. So I think that

2042
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 3: that was one of those plays where they probably would

2043
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 3: have liked that to as they say, can can you know?

2044
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah and get out of that one?

2045
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan. Let's go to Chicago. Nate's there. What's up? Nate? Nate? Chicago? Nate? Okay,

2046
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: Nate is late. Let's go to Brian and Lowell. What's up? Brian?

2047
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:45,879
Speaker 4: Brian and Lowell going three once twice, three times?

2048
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: You're out? Okay, back to the emails. The lines are

2049
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: open up if you want to call in.

2050
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 4: Let's go Sam and Saint Catharine's obviously on cloud nine

2051
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 4: after the win. But is it crazy to think we

2052
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 4: could sweep the AFC East six and oh Jets are awful.

2053
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 4: Dolphins we get at the end of the year at home,

2054
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 4: which they'll be packed up and can't play in the cold.

2055
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 4: The only toss up is Buffalo, who we get at

2056
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 4: home coming off our bye.

2057
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable.

2058
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 3: So I was looking at the week fifteen slate flex flex,

2059
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 3: The flex is in play.

2060
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 7: It's in play.

2061
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 3: I think that the one of the primetime games is

2062
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 3: like Steelers against such it's it's not a good game

2063
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 3: on paper anymore.

2064
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 7: And if that's like low.

2065
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Key for the AFC East, like, is there a chance

2066
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 3: that that gets flexed in the primetime.

2067
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Hat and T shirt game?

2068
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I don't.

2069
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 3: Think they're going to clinch the AFCs in Week fifteen, but.

2070
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's it. These kinds of things are in

2071
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: play when you go to Buffalo and beat Bills. These

2072
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 2: kinds of emails are not out of the questions. Well speaking, yes,

2073
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 2: they could speaking of flexing.

2074
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 4: Next week's game was originally a four to twenty five

2075
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 4: game and it got moved to one.

2076
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Do you think they're regretting that New Orleans? No, but

2077
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: they're playing better.

2078
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Like I don't know why you think they're playing better.

2079
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: They're terrible. I mean, you're just trying to like pump

2080
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: up the Patriots because I'm on board with that. You're

2081
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 2: trying to help Mike.

2082
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: Their games have been competitive, you.

2083
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: Know, they play bad teams and they really haven't. Like

2084
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 2: they lost like forty eight to three to Seattle, Like,

2085
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 2: I don't that was early. It was like, okay, well,

2086
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: the last game they played, the other team turned it

2087
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 2: over five times in a row and they won, like

2088
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 2: the Giant can. They're terrible. They're a terrible team too,

2089
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 2: and by the way, we'll see them soon.

2090
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 6: One question of the panel, though, is could this running

2091
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 6: game be the fatal flaw that kind of helps forces

2092
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 6: the Patriots to struggle a little bit on offense going forward,

2093
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 6: Like is is the running game important enough? They've been

2094
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 6: hit with injuries. We're not sure what's going on over more,

2095
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 6: Trevion still depends. I mean, right now, it seems like

2096
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 6: you're asking a lot of Drake May to single handedly

2097
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 6: lead this team through the next games of the season.

2098
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna wait till later in the week I

2099
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 2: would say I understand Evan's point about like the then

2100
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 2: that excites me. The most, and I would agree with

2101
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 2: him that's that. Then it excited me the most, like

2102
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: May and Diggs doing all these plays and making like

2103
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: because you're good enough to do it, you're showing you

2104
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 2: that you're good enough to do it. But it's also

2105
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 2: the thing that worries me the most because I don't

2106
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: think that you're going to complete all those passes on

2107
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: a regular basis.

2108
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 3: But we've seen them do the other thing against the

2109
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 3: Carolinas and the Miamis and the Pittsburgh's of the world,

2110
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 3: where they can scheme it up and they can get

2111
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 3: guys open, you know, and not have to have Drake May.

2112
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 2: So let me get just like, you know, Buffalo, we

2113
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: know is good, but let's just say, like, let's go

2114
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 2: to like Cleveland. Yeah, Cleveland's got a pretty good defense,

2115
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 2: and I know it's really hard to win that way

2116
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 2: with just a great defense and you're gonna win thirteen

2117
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: to ten. But that's how they want to try to play. Like.

2118
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 2: I could see Miles Garrett making Drake May consistently have

2119
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 2: to run to the right sideline all day. I could

2120
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 2: absolutely see that happening. I also know that John, we

2121
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 2: can get to the game plan in three weeks. Josh

2122
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 2: McDaniels and those guys will have a game plan specifically

2123
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: for Miles Garrett. We know that, but I could understand

2124
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 2: sometimes their guy is just better. You know. That's a

2125
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 2: hard way to win. That's a hard way to win.

2126
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: The way that they won the other night like that

2127
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 2: was like some high level stuff with May and Diggs.

2128
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 2: And I keep saying both because I don't think just

2129
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: any receiver makes those catches that that digs me made

2130
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: at least three or four catches that I don't think

2131
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: anybody else on the Patriots would have made.

2132
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 1: Making the catch and then making that guy on him miss.

2133
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the ones on the sideline. Yeah,

2134
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: the ones in the in the field of play were

2135
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 2: on a point right there. And I know Tredevius White,

2136
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 2: I said it before the game, and Tredevious White's clearly

2137
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 2: on the back nine, but he was in reasonably good

2138
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 2: position a number of times, and May just made the

2139
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 2: throw anywhere. What if that throw is a little bit different,

2140
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 2: you know. That's what I you know, for Mike's concerns,

2141
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: but my biggest concern is just everybody else is g

2142
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 2: geting butchered with injuries. Like, are you're just going to

2143
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 2: be that one team? Sometimes that happens. Yeah, Buffalo didn't

2144
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: really get a lot of injuries last year, Washington either,

2145
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: So sometimes you're just the one outlier that you don't

2146
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 2: get banged up. I worry about the depth a little bit.

2147
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: And if they lost some guys.

2148
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: Yep uh Joel and Otawa.

2149
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 4: I'm not just pandering to Mike, but the Ravens seem

2150
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 4: to be on a downward spiral. Henry is pricey. What

2151
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 4: would this trade look like?

2152
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Derek Henry not trading?

2153
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 2: I just like, yeah, I don't think I don't. I mean,

2154
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 2: I never like to say never because third runner.

2155
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't see like the need for them to trade

2156
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 3: for like a true like stud lead back, like like

2157
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 3: a Derek Henry.

2158
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 2: Agree, why do you want to waste anything?

2159
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: Right?

2160
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think that it's that serious, Like I

2161
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,879
Speaker 3: know everybody's out on reminder with the fumbling.

2162
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 7: I get it, it can't he's.

2163
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 4: Got to stop forget about it being serious. Even if

2164
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 4: even forget about the fumbling. If Henry was availab would

2165
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 4: you go get them?

2166
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 5: No?

2167
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 3: I mean depends on what for Like if you want

2168
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: if like no, No, I mean for what trade compensation like,

2169
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, if it's a Day three pick,

2170
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 3: tell me for.

2171
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Like another receiver to go with Diggs. Sure, Like now

2172
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: my offense is like totent. I don't need a running

2173
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 2: back to do that, you know me.

2174
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 7: I think the.

2175
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 3: Running game thing is is a legitimate concern, but I

2176
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 3: also think that they're still able to script things off

2177
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: the running game. Even though the run game itself has

2178
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 3: not been overly productive, the play action passing game has.

2179
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 3: The option plays that they're running with Drake have been

2180
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 3: mostly productive. Uh, they're still able to move the pocket

2181
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 3: off the run action. So like as long as the

2182
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 3: run is good enough that it's setting up the pass.

2183
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 3: Because the one thing that the run game isn't doing

2184
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 3: is it's not going backwards. They're not getting a lot

2185
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 3: of negative runs. They're just not breaking a lot of

2186
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,799
Speaker 3: runs to really drive up the efficiency. So they're still

2187
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 3: moving the ball three or four yards at a time,

2188
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 3: which is just enough to and he make the defense.

2189
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 4: Even then, like as it stands right now, if you

2190
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 4: forget about the fumbling, which is hard to do, I

2191
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 4: grant it, we have two decent backs, and I think

2192
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 4: a good, good enough line where we can stay balanced.

2193
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 4: If we're not turning it over, we can play a

2194
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 4: balanced offense still. Now if you get one injury, another injury,

2195
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 4: we're in trouble.

2196
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 3: But that's my point is with the balance, like, they're

2197
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 3: still able to be balanced. So just your passing game

2198
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,839
Speaker 3: is just going to be the better part of your offense.

2199
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: But as long as you can kick it that way,

2200
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 3: the balance whereas like when you get into real trouble

2201
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 3: is when the run game is constantly going backwards and

2202
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 3: now you have to abandon the run altogether. That's when

2203
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 3: it starts to get it to be a problem.

2204
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: That's why said I don't think they need like Derek Henry,

2205
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 2: like you can, you could run the ball. They need

2206
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: to run it a little bit better than they have,

2207
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 2: but it hasn't been to the point where they can't

2208
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: run at all because.

2209
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 4: They can't get any If you're gonna stick with Remondre,

2210
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 4: which they might have to, how this fumbling is is

2211
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 4: going to affect his running style because he's best when

2212
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 4: he's breaking tackles.

2213
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about contact.

2214
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 4: And I can't see how he's not going to be

2215
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 4: affected by I can't fumble the ball.

2216
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 6: I mean, do you think there's a chance that Reminder

2217
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 6: receives in this year, gets back into form and you

2218
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 6: have trust in him, and every time he carries the ball,

2219
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 6: it doesn't look like it's rock'm socking robots and anybody

2220
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 6: trying to tackle him.

2221
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: It's just coming in with the haymakers.

2222
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 2: You know.

2223
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 6: And can he do enough this year then to be

2224
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 6: that back going forward or do you feel like it's

2225
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 6: kind of an I mean like in my mind, I

2226
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 6: feel like, yeah, we'll get through this year with Remondre,

2227
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 6: but next year RB one is the need to me,

2228
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 6: we need a guy that we can trust, and I

2229
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 6: just I don't know if I can ever regain that

2230
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 6: trust in Remondre. Even if he makes it through this

2231
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 6: year without eight fumbles again, you know, maybe it's just

2232
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 6: one more.

2233
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: I still don't know how he can.

2234
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 3: It's a legitimate long term concern. I don't think they

2235
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 3: really haven't any choice is right now to get out

2236
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 3: of it. But in the offseason, like if you want

2237
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 3: to get you know, your David Montgomery to your Jamier Gibbs,

2238
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,759
Speaker 3: a Trevon Henderson, and you go out and get another

2239
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 3: sort of between the tackles early down back then like

2240
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 3: you you might be in the market for that.

2241
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 6: What do you guys think of him as a running

2242
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 6: back just outside of the fumbles, like, because there have

2243
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 6: been games over the years where like great game by Remandra,

2244
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 6: he's tough to bring down, he's got good hands, he's

2245
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 6: a three down back.

2246
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 1: He can kind of do it all.

2247
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 6: But at the same time, you have plenty of games

2248
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 6: where it's like completely ineffective, did nothing today, you know,

2249
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 6: And I know that's a function of the offense too,

2250
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 6: But I just.

2251
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Think he's okay.

2252
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: I think he's okay.

2253
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a good, solid, middle of the road

2254
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 2: starting running back. But I don't look at him like

2255
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 2: like Josh Jacobs. I think is better than that, you know,

2256
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: those kinds of guys that do a little bit of everything.

2257
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 2: I like Stevenson's versatility. I think he's underrated in the

2258
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 2: passing game, both as a blocker as a receiver. But

2259
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 2: you guys are right, I mean, if you can't hold

2260
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,759
Speaker 2: onto the oh, he says it more than anybody.

2261
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 6: I mean there's probably maybe five games in his career

2262
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 6: that you can look at and be like he was

2263
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 6: dominant that those five, But you know it's been he's

2264
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 6: been here for five years, you know, like it's been

2265
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 6: a while.

2266
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 3: I just don't think he's a game breaking But I

2267
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 3: just don't think like as long he's he's good enough

2268
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: that if they have good blocking, then their run game

2269
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 3: is going to.

2270
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 4: Be I also think he's been hurt over the last

2271
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 4: couple of years by the lack of an offense in general.

2272
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 4: I mean, like we say, they've been easy to defend, terrible.

2273
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about the outside down deep.

2274
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 4: So we're going to pack the middle. It's going to

2275
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 4: be eight in the box and it's hard to run

2276
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 4: against for anybody.

2277
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: Sixteen arms trying and you're one thousand percent right, Like,

2278
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 2: they haven't had a good offense. And I don't care

2279
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 2: who you are, Derrick Henry, I think would have offensive line. Yeah,

2280
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: I just look at when when creases are there and

2281
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: he's had one of those five good games that you're

2282
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 2: talking about, do you have a look at him and

2283
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 2: say that was an electric run. I don't think he

2284
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: has that.

2285
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I think game he scored in as a rookie, I.

2286
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 2: Think Devin pointed out Carolina he had like a long

2287
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 2: run against Carolina and he like got tackled, and as

2288
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 2: he got tackled, you went. And Rabel actually said the

2289
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 2: same thing, like we had one more guy to take

2290
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 2: care of, and I think heaven kind of thought the

2291
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 2: running back should have been explosive enough to take care

2292
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:19,919
Speaker 2: of that on his own. Yeah, And I don't.

2293
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 3: Even when he has a good free safety.

2294
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 2: He's a good player, like Demandra Stevenson is a good player.

2295
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 2: I just want to, you know, restate that because it's

2296
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 2: not like I think he's you know, without talent. He's

2297
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 2: a good player. I just don't think he's anything more

2298
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 2: than that even at his best.

2299
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 3: I just think I don't care, like there's a bottom

2300
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: running and this isn't like a shot. I just like

2301
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 3: there's like five running backs in the league that matter.

2302
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 3: So like, no, he's not in the Saquon Barkley Christian

2303
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 3: McCaffrey category, but like out of like the rest of

2304
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 3: the just the guys that are in the league, Like

2305
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 3: you have one of the.

2306
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 2: Guys and that's why he even goes. But that's why

2307
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: I didn't go to the Gibbs Robinson, McCaffrey, like Josh Jacobs,

2308
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 2: Like this is in every down back who's kind of

2309
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: a traditional bat. He'll catch some passes to I think

2310
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 2: when he gets creases their bigger plays than what Rimandre

2311
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 2: gets with you know. I you know, we get into

2312
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: all the EPA and all that stuff, but like, I

2313
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 2: don't think he gets much more than he breaks tackles.

2314
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 2: Like he's hard to tackle when he's leathered up and

2315
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 2: he's going. But I don't think he like makes these

2316
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 2: big runs because he just made two guys miss in

2317
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 2: the open field.

2318
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah they got they gotta get, you know, right now,

2319
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 3: I don't see them getting a lot of second level

2320
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 3: blocks from the offensive line and the tight ends where

2321
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 3: they're really you know, right now, they're taking care of

2322
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 3: the bigs. And that's why you don't have any negative runs.

2323
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Is like the defensive line isn't getting into the backfield

2324
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 3: and making plays in the backfield, but they're not getting

2325
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 3: up to the linebacker level to really spring the running

2326
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 3: back on these big runs. And that's how you spring

2327
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 3: it is when you can get you know, guards and

2328
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 3: tackles and tight ends and guys up to the second

2329
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 3: level of the defense and really get you know, hats

2330
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 3: on those linebackers. So like to me, like when I

2331
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 3: watch their run game. It's definitely more a product of

2332
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 3: blocking than it is the guys carrying the football.

2333
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 4: You know.

2334
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 3: The one little nippick I'd have about garrying the football

2335
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 3: is like these outside zone runs, like they're just ramming

2336
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 3: it right and like into the line of scrimmage on

2337
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 3: some of those. I would like to see a little

2338
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 3: bit more patients to let the cutback lanes develop a

2339
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 3: little bit more. Like when you see teams that are

2340
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 3: really good at outside zone, there's like a dance like

2341
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 3: rhythm to it where it's like, you know, you kind

2342
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 3: of paste it out and it strings out and then

2343
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 3: they cut up the field right up the middle of

2344
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 3: the field and it's gone. Like Patriots don't have a

2345
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 3: ton of those types of outside zone runs, but overall,

2346
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 3: like they get like the first two to three yards blocked,

2347
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 3: they just need to get them up into the second

2348
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 3: and third level more often.

2349
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Nola's in Austin, Texas. What's up, Nola? Nola?

2350
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 15: How do you sorry about that? First and foremost its

2351
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 15: first time caller, But I absolutely loved watching the game. Yes,

2352
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 15: it was kind of rough in the first tet, but

2353
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 15: we got our win. I had a few things I

2354
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 15: feel like Carlton Davis is still kind of disappinting as

2355
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 15: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but watching that game,

2356
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 15: it felt like he really wasn't much of an impact

2357
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 15: other than letting big plays happen potentially. And then the

2358
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 15: other thing is is now I'm kind of kind of

2359
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 15: worried that this thing's game might be a trap game

2360
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 15: for us. Just wanted to hear it could be.

2361
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 4: It could be funny that your name's Nola.

2362
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 2: I was thinking that was on the list.

2363
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Saints could be a trap game.

2364
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 4: But Carlton Davis, he flash, he had a nice pressure

2365
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 4: that caused it incomplete and you know, did let up

2366
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:06,799
Speaker 4: a couple of plays.

2367
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,799
Speaker 1: But I think he's the number two cornerback.

2368
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's sort of where the Yeah,

2369
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 3: maybe my disconnect with it was some people is like

2370
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 3: he's not supposed to be the Christian Gonzale. It's like

2371
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,839
Speaker 3: Christian Gonzalez is supposed to be Christian Gonzalez. He's supposed

2372
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 3: to be a starting caliber, number two cornerback.

2373
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 7: Now, they paid him a little bit more.

2374
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 3: Than that, but that's because they went into free agency

2375
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 3: to get him, So you're gonna pay top dollar when

2376
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 3: you go into the market to get displayed. And I

2377
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 3: think he's been exactly what they wanted, which is to

2378
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 3: have a stable, consistent player to play opposite of Gonzo.

2379
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, like they used the Coleman third down play where

2380
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 6: they just toss it up to I said to Paul,

2381
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 6: and that's the matchup you want.

2382
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 2: You want your big cornerback on their big receiver.

2383
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: They're going to try to just throw it up to him.

2384
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 4: You know.

2385
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with him.

2386
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 6: And there were a number of plays where you just

2387
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 6: it just looked like great defense. It looked like the

2388
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 6: rush was getting there. It looked like everybody was kind

2389
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 6: of locked out.

2390
01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 7: Very jazz.

2391
01:45:58,840 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 4: I was.

2392
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: I was jazz. Yeah he is, Uh, Brian's and Lowell

2393
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: he's calling in again. What's up, Brian? Okay, what's up?

2394
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 2: Oh there?

2395
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: He is all right?

2396
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 8: Hey.

2397
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2398
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: What's you guys thinking about the game on Sunday night? Huh? Sweet?

2399
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who won?

2400
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Have you been listening for the last two hours?

2401
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2402
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 4: It was a good game.

2403
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: So you know how we feel. I know, I.

2404
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: Guys really feel I'm pretty hype about it.

2405
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 4: But that went over the bills.

2406
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: We actually snapped.

2407
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 11: Around fifteen Winter streak, a long winding streak down going

2408
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 11: the Bills.

2409
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually did that too, so not just beating them,

2410
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: but we snapped the winter streak.

2411
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 1: Yep, they're home winning streak yep, yep. Yeah, on top

2412
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: of it all.

2413
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: But by the way, yeah that kicker regardless.

2414
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 4: Why do you say his name is man?

2415
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: He's a stud regardless yeap.

2416
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was nervous.

2417
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: I was so I'm like, oh my god, make this.

2418
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: I know I was right with you, right with you.

2419
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, no gibs and now now gives and gives his injury.

2420
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 2: Now that's theres man.

2421
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, yeah, you hate to see that.

2422
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 1: You know, should get if she get Chisholm.

2423
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,440
Speaker 4: Now I think you actively running.

2424
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: Back yep, because yeah, he can run, be running back.

2425
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 7: He's got pretty good contact back.

2426
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 2: He could do the right turn kicks in there, right.

2427
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot to call.

2428
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 3: It's my favorite trolling us or I think he just

2429
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 3: wants to chat, checking in boos, seeing what's going on,

2430
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 3: talking about the game.

2431
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 1: You want to get hot.

2432
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: You think there's any chance that that's an avenue for

2433
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 2: Chisholm to be on there, I'm being dead serious. It

2434
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: wasn't ironic at all?

2435
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: Kickoff? Yeah, why not?

2436
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm havingue to get on the game day roster. I

2437
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 2: mean there's obviously an opening, you know, put him next

2438
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 2: to Henderson. I think he did a little of that.

2439
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 2: I know we returned punts. Did he get any kicks too?

2440
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2441
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 7: He doesn't really have the straight line speed.

2442
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 6: I remember I was thinking about Isaiah Bolden, I mean

2443
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 6: a long gone now, but you know, he was one

2444
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 6: guy that I know was in the mix with z.

2445
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 3: I also wonder if you know this would be two

2446
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 3: rookies back there, but do you think about Kyle Williams

2447
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 3: going back there? Who has practice kickoffs? Yeah, quite a bit.

2448
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 3: And now that those are probably your two fastests.

2449
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 1: Now you're not adding a roster spot, right, I just want.

2450
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 3: And maybe not, But like Kyle Williams already is, like

2451
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: you know, had a smaller role on offense, and this

2452
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 3: might be another way to get his speed to impact

2453
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 3: the game in some way shape of.

2454
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 2: He's another one that I noticed on Sunday night there

2455
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 2: was a little quick uh screen to Douglas and he's

2456
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 2: out in front blocking someone. It was Taron Johnson. So like, no,

2457
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 2: but I'm just I'm using it as man like the

2458
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 2: whole buy in thing. Yeah, might try to like downplay

2459
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 2: that on Monday when he was asked like, so, what

2460
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 2: does a win like that do for the buy in? Like,

2461
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 2: I think he kind of already felt like he had that, so,

2462
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 2: but I do think there's a lot of evidence that

2463
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 2: the players are playing at a different level, not so

2464
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 2: much how well they're playing, but with different levels of

2465
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 2: intensity and commitment and the finish that that we talk

2466
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 2: about all the time, that kind of stuff.

2467
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 3: Kylurams parent, Kyl Williams gets open, Yeah, he gets open

2468
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 3: on the film. It's not finding him right now, and

2469
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying that they like secretly have this like one

2470
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yard receiver that like they're just hiding.

2471
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 3: But you know, he ran like probably about ten rounds

2472
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 3: in this game, and like he was open on a

2473
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 3: handful of him. It runs good vertical routes, Like I'm

2474
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,759
Speaker 3: just waiting for him to hit one of those go balls,

2475
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 3: like that's coming.

2476
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Be great to see.

2477
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: Drake's just developed.

2478
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 6: I mean, you clearly see Drake has confidence in throwing

2479
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 6: a Hunter Henry and throwing a Stefon Diggs right now

2480
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 6: and the other guys. I think it's a little bit

2481
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 6: still hit or miss, but I think with I mean

2482
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 6: one of those throws, I mean, I think the two catches.

2483
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 6: I think it was the second one. Like it's like

2484
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 6: twenty yards down the field. That's strike he threw where

2485
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 6: that I mean, just unbelievable. You know, the trust is there,

2486
01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 6: I'm going to throw it to him. There's a lot

2487
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 6: of eyes down there, but he comes up with it.

2488
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 1: Same thing with Diggs.

2489
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 6: Can another can Kyle Williams emerge over the course of

2490
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 6: the season. So going in next year, you feel like

2491
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 6: he's gonna have a bigger role.

2492
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: Yeh chosen Pennsylvania. Hey Joe, Hey.

2493
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 11: Guys, Hey, thanks for taking my call. Hey Joe, And uh,

2494
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 11: first comment before my question, but like just about bot

2495
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 11: like when he when he made that catch and he

2496
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 11: extended out for that first down.

2497
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, what what a stud play.

2498
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 1: It was a great play. Yep.

2499
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 11: How often do we stay Why didn't he just reach out?

2500
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 11: You know it's like grant you, you don't want to

2501
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 11: reach out in traffic, but on those sideline catches like that,

2502
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 11: I mean and uh, and like like right around that

2503
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 11: four or five catch mark per game, I think that

2504
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 11: is like a great, a great number for him, especially

2505
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 11: when there's like twenty some completion.

2506
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Yep, he hasn't really been that though. He hasn't talked

2507
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 2: five in a game since the first game, right, yeah, yeah.

2508
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 11: I know he only had three, but I think right

2509
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 11: around that, like, you know, I say that fortified mark

2510
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 11: would be great for him, but.

2511
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: I think Paul said it earlier.

2512
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 4: It seems like every catch he does make is a

2513
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 4: is a really meaningful catch.

2514
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 1: Right, showing awareness good.

2515
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he had those two catches that

2516
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 2: were talking about, one he reaches out for a first

2517
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 2: down and then the one on the sideline in the

2518
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: game winning drive. I would just say, thanks, careful on

2519
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 2: the one he reaches out on because you know, and

2520
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Evan might be able to speak to this better than me.

2521
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 2: But Collinsworth mentioned at the time Mike and I immediately

2522
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 2: thought it, did you run a bad route and be

2523
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: sure to the sticks there? I think he's probably an

2524
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 2: argument to be made on third you got to get

2525
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 2: the sticks. And then I don't think coaches universally do

2526
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 2: not like that reaching out thing like it worked, you know,

2527
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 2: like Mike Vrabel was not happy with Hunter Henry two

2528
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 2: weeks Ago on his touchdown down the sideline, that funky

2529
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 2: throw from May. He kind of was very casually with

2530
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 2: the ball down as he's going through the end zone.

2531
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 2: You know, you don't know if there's someone there to

2532
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 2: do all Dugger on that jack wagon from the Bengals

2533
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 2: last year that was starting to celebrate as he's going in,

2534
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 2: and you know, Kyle Dugger knocked the ball out. Ball

2535
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: security is important and reaching out, I don't care if

2536
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,600
Speaker 2: you're on the sideline. You never saw a ball just

2537
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 2: get knocked out of a guy's in Just sit there

2538
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: on the sidelines like that's not They don't like that.

2539
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 3: So every time I see that, I don't like it either.

2540
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's worse like doing it to reach it

2541
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 3: into the goal line in my opinion, because that then

2542
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 3: you get the fumble touched back thing and like you

2543
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 3: know last night, Trevor Lawrence trying to do the Drew

2544
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:34,799
Speaker 3: Brees sneak and egos.

2545
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 2: But that's okay on fourth down because you lose the ball,

2546
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 2: you lose the as long as it doesn't get touchdown

2547
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 2: or something like that, that's not so okay. But yeah,

2548
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 2: they've covered on the three yard line and was their

2549
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:44,879
Speaker 2: ball anyway.

2550
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's happen again this week, the kid in

2551
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 3: Arizona Mercado. It's like every I don't understand how these

2552
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 3: guys still are fumbling the ball but like dropping the

2553
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 3: ball celebrating before they get into the end zone. I

2554
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 3: kind of the homes was like kind of close. Last

2555
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 3: night he ran one in on like an option play.

2556
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 3: I agree, and I looked at it and it was

2557
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 3: pretty that was you know, he was maybe a step

2558
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 3: or two into the end zone.

2559
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 2: But can I just say something about the one for Arizona.

2560
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if you did. You guys see this

2561
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 2: at all?

2562
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 7: I saw the reaction do it.

2563
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: I know that was not good. Yeah, I've seen it

2564
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 2: a few times. I have not seen sort of the

2565
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 2: pylon cam down the sideline. I got to tell you,

2566
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 2: watching it over and over again, I'm not excusing it

2567
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 2: because it just never will I will never understand why

2568
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: that's cool. Why it's cool I scored a touchdown and

2569
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 2: it's cool if I can drop the ball as I

2570
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 2: go into the end zone. Like, I don't know why

2571
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 2: that makes it any cool that you just ran seventy

2572
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 2: one yards.

2573
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 7: It is kind of sweat.

2574
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 2: Why don't you just get in the end zone and

2575
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 2: then do it right.

2576
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 7: I told that Mahomes did and it looked cool.

2577
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 2: So I've seen this play a number of times and

2578
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that he didn't break the play in

2579
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:56,879
Speaker 2: the goal line before.

2580
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: He dropped it. Close. Yeah, it was close.

2581
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: I think that they're really being picky with them, like

2582
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,759
Speaker 2: to try to like prove a point, Like he reaches

2583
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 2: out like this and for all the world, it looks

2584
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: to me like that's breaking the plane of the goal line.

2585
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 2: Then he lets it go. It looks like and I

2586
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 2: think that they're deeming this as losing control of the ball,

2587
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 2: and I don't think he lost control of the ball

2588
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: until he actually crossed the goal line. Now, if someone

2589
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 2: has a video that I haven't seen, then I'm wrong.

2590
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 2: I just the ones that I have seen. It looks

2591
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 2: to me like he broke the plane.

2592
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 4: Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred, Yeah he caused that

2593
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 4: three car accident.

2594
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 11: Well, I ain't nobody in front of me, okay, So yeah,

2595
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 11: hey sir, take your victory lap. Oh buy me drink

2596
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 11: at the bar, and they talking about your boy Drake,

2597
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 11: So take your victory lab, buddy. He finally told me

2598
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 11: over this time. You know, so I'm a Drake man,

2599
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 11: a Drake may fan.

2600
01:54:59,040 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: Shitt the ind.

2601
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 2: We go.

2602
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 4: We'll talk about him, even though North Carolina won't nice

2603
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 4: nice Freddy.

2604
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 11: About to blow up defut and AJ definitely won't.

2605
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Now do you think something happened to.

2606
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: Him and Hurts got into it on the sideline? I

2607
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: mean hot.

2608
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 3: Navy yea, there is that teams.

2609
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, not all four ones are built the same.

2610
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Thanks, I mean they were.

2611
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 3: They were up seventeen to three and coasting in that

2612
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 3: game going into the fourth quarter and they blew it.

2613
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's tough to stay up on top.

2614
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 3: And their offense like completely just went in the tank.

2615
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 3: Like they looked like, you know, they had the wheel

2616
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 3: route to Barkley and all of a sudden they look

2617
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 3: like they're the Eagles offense last year and they're not

2618
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 3: running the ball as well as they were last year.

2619
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 7: The offensive line is of good to see. Yeah, there's

2620
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 7: still four and one.

2621
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 2: Like, how about my Jaguars? These are like twenty eleven

2622
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 2: Patriots problems that game last night.

2623
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 3: With the Jaguars, Like Trevor Lawrence is a roller coaster,

2624
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 3: like watching him play is honestly, and like, so they

2625
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 3: have him running this like this can system right where

2626
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 3: he's got the two plays called and he's got to

2627
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 3: pick the right play, and every single time the two

2628
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 3: seconds through one second, the play clock is winding down

2629
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 3: and he's like yelling and barking and doing all. It's like,

2630
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 3: maybe just don't do it like you ever, Like, is

2631
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 3: it really that big of an advantage to change the play?

2632
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: Is it really like is that really working that much

2633
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 3: that every single time you snap the ball there's one

2634
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 3: second left on the play clock?

2635
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 2: Is it taking him a while the process which play

2636
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 2: to call? Is that what it is?

2637
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 3: Like? Well, yeah, and I you know, they're talking about

2638
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 3: a little they're talking about it a little bit on

2639
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 3: the broadcast, and like they were saying that like he's

2640
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 3: got to get out of the huddle faster so that

2641
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 3: he can get to the line of scrimmage and look

2642
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 3: at the defense and then make the adjustment. I guess

2643
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 3: like they have the numbers that like seventy five percent

2644
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 3: of the time he switches the play at the line

2645
01:56:58,640 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 3: of scrimmage.

2646
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: So it's just.

2647
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 3: Like and not it's called the second place and it's

2648
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 3: not just like there's two under center plays and we're

2649
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 3: just gonna run the second run plays of the first.

2650
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 3: They're going from like shotgun to under center or under

2651
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 3: center to shotguns, so like the whole formation is changing

2652
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 3: and then they're getting they there's the lay games.

2653
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Like can system.

2654
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 7: Well a lot, I.

2655
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 3: Mean a lot of coaches run it like in that tree.

2656
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 3: Uh you know, it's really like Brady used to do

2657
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 3: it all the time, like the Patriots do it too.

2658
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 7: It's not that hard, Like it's.

2659
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 3: Just usually usually it's a it's a like it could

2660
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 3: be anything. It could be two run plays to pass plays.

2661
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 3: But it's just like, if we get this front, we're

2662
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 3: gonna run this run play. If we get that front,

2663
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna run that run play. It's just it's not

2664
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 3: that hard.

2665
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: One more call Troy's in Virginia Beach. What's up, Troy?

2666
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 2: Hey? It was doing on guys.

2667
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 1: Hey now you talk?

2668
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can hear you.

2669
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 15: Okay, okay. I would like to take it back to

2670
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 15: week three. I had an amazing time going up to

2671
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 15: the boss and thanks for the sis of getting the train.

2672
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 15: Had an amazing job.

2673
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 1: That was my first time ever seeing a fox.

2674
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 15: But very best. But I know the first few callers

2675
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 15: or the two callers pretty much touched on it.

2676
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 8: I was wondering, since we.

2677
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 15: Have a dog in our camp, when was Kylee Walees

2678
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 15: in a mix or you think.

2679
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 8: He'll see a good idea to put him in the mix,

2680
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 8: you know, just for just in case purposes and something.

2681
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 15: Happened two days.

2682
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 10: You don't want that to happen.

2683
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, well you mean in the mix of catching footballs.

2684
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about.

2685
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think a lot of people

2686
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 4: would like to see him get more involved, including him,

2687
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 4: but right now it's just not you know, the ball's

2688
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 4: not finding him yet.

2689
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 1: I think his time will come.

2690
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 4: But we talked about earlier Troy about getting him in

2691
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 4: the mix on kickoffs kickoff return. Thanks and thanks for

2692
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 4: the call, and you know, I could see that might

2693
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 4: be something to get him in the game.

2694
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it's sim and I want

2695
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 3: to have woman to let but like with him and Henderson,

2696
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 3: I just think people are being a little bit uh

2697
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 3: not being patient enough exactly, Like it's this is the

2698
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 3: fifth week of the season. Their rookies, like if you

2699
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 3: just give it some time, like let let them develop.

2700
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's a new offense for everyone, not just I.

2701
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 2: Would also say if the offense wasn't performing well, and

2702
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, say for the first

2703
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 2: game of the year, the offense has been okay, like

2704
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 2: what do you you know?

2705
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Right? But everybody's always green.

2706
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 3: You always want to see the thing that it's a

2707
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 3: shiny new toy and and I get it. But like

2708
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:52,840
Speaker 3: they're they're on these developmental plans, but he has to.

2709
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 1: Be that you'd like to see maybe stretch the field

2710
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: a little bit.

2711
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 2: If they can rush the rookie, if they could, you know,

2712
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 2: integrate him into the offense, that would be all right,

2713
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 2: that would be cool.

2714
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 1: We're going to integrate into saying goodbye. But we were back.

2715
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 4: Tomorrow catch twenty two tomorrow at ten, Tomorrow at ten.

2716
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 4: How's Barth doing? Is he okay? Like he's doing his

2717
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 4: soilst pants during the game at any.

2718
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 3: Point he's watching it at home. He doesn't travel, so

2719
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 3: he's watching it at home.

2720
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: Does his mother yell at him to keep it shot?

2721
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 3: No, No, that wasn't a shot. I was just saying

2722
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 3: I made me low and watching the game. He just

2723
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,160
Speaker 3: he said that this is the first time in a

2724
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 3: while that his inner fan kind of came out a

2725
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 3: little bit watching the Patriots, and I kind of felt

2726
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 3: the same way.

2727
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 7: I felt something about this team for the first time.

2728
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 4: I think, if the Patriots get to the super Bowl

2729
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 4: this year, we should all shape chip in and get

2730
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 4: Barth a lady friend.

2731
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 7: You know we're going to say to get to them.

2732
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 7: We're got to get him there.

2733
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure that the station would send him down, right,

2734
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 1: are you well? They would. They would have to. He's

2735
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: their football guy, and he go to the super Bowl.

2736
02:00:58,520 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 1: You don't send your.

2737
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 3: Football I mean, Paul's shows go to the super Bowl.

2738
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 3: So I'd assume that they could find it.

2739
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. We should get up, We should get

2740
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 1: up some company.

2741
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 2: The morning show is not going. Friend's quitting, that's what

2742
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 2: he said.

2743
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 3: He can sleep on the floor in my hotel room.

2744
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 7: We'll get my.

2745
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 1: Cot there you go. Yeah all right, yeah, all right.

2746
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 7: Use a different bathroom though.

2747
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:17,919
Speaker 1: We will see it tomorrow.

2748
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 4: More more of this and turn the page.

2749
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 2: Hey, this is Alex.

2750
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:26,600
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2751
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,560
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2752
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:31,240
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2753
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 2: Also, make sure you follow us on.

2754
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:35,560
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2755
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 5: and everything else we do here at the Patriots.

2756
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot