WEBVTT - Pumpkin Spice and Nothing Nice

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, somebody actually tweeted me and said, I

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<v Speaker 1>could totally see you doing jazz hands and fingers, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with your hands getting successively higher higher above

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<v Speaker 1>your head and then ending with your fingers wiggling in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. So that was for you, Donna.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot. Is that like more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty characters?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, Twitter is trying to go higher, They're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do more characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's the thing I saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I feel about jinks jinks. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I feel like I wonder what. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>what I was doing when I had all the time

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<v Speaker 2>in the world to tweet before. I haven't been on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter in such a long time except for like when

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<v Speaker 2>something happens and I need to get on two or

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<v Speaker 2>just take it the quick the quick take on what

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<v Speaker 2>has occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a lazy tweeter and that, like I typically

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<v Speaker 1>if I do something on Instagram, I'm like, go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and post it on Twitter too. Boo. That's how our

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<v Speaker 1>tower tweeted. Someone was like, when someone hits me on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and they say something like oh, good grats or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, for what, oh that lazy tweet via Instagram. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say Superman. The other day he got bad service. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we talked about like, I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 1>year or so ago, you know how he had the annurism surgeries, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like at once a year, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to go get a check up. So they sent

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<v Speaker 1>him to some MRIs place where so his doctor can

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<v Speaker 1>get the results or whatever. So I guess they had

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<v Speaker 1>him waiting for an hour and he was like why.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other MRIs are a little bit easier, so they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>them first. He was like, the why not just put

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<v Speaker 1>me at ten o'clock instead of having me come at

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<v Speaker 1>nine and wait for an hour. So they were giving

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<v Speaker 1>him all this back and forth, and so he finally

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, I'm just gonna leave, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like no, no, no, get you now, because of course

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<v Speaker 1>you know they want and the money from the insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was like, you know, that's crazy. You shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have someone come in like that, set an appointment and

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<v Speaker 1>make them wait just because other people have easier exams.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were just complaining. He's like, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>at first, they were you know, they were rude at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, you know what, I'm just gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>my wife to tweet about it. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>cause I told him once that like somebody had done

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<v Speaker 1>something to me. I was like, you know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tweet about it and so and then they gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a refund or whatever. So he was like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get my wife' to tweet about it. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were like no. I'm like, some man, do we even

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<v Speaker 1>know how Twitter works? He doesn't, but he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I see the fear of people's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes when you say it. So I used it. He's like, tifanty.

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<v Speaker 1>They were so apologetic, like no, sir was so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you don't worry about it. I'm gonna tweet

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like that. He was like, wait, how do

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<v Speaker 1>how does Twitter work? I like, go sit down in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner somewhere. Oh, Twitter saving people's lives every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to think that like waiting forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to an hour the doctor was like a normal experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I realized you can just a different doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>and some doctors are just really like some offices are

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<v Speaker 2>just really dysfunctional, and they just get backed up and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get an appointment in New York City. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I it's it's if you need to go see a

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<v Speaker 2>specialist and you're nothing is broken and you're not bleeding,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're gonna be waiting at least a month to

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<v Speaker 2>go see New York It's ridiculous, rediculous. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, MRIs are one of those things where it

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<v Speaker 2>really matters. I mean not just like where you get

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<v Speaker 2>the best service, but like those are one of those

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<v Speaker 2>health services that if you go down the block, it

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<v Speaker 2>can be five hundred bucks, if you go next door,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be two thousand dollars. I don't and there's

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<v Speaker 2>like these these like these these types of services in

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<v Speaker 2>the healthcare industry that there's just no rhyme or reason

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<v Speaker 2>and they just charge whatever the hell they want for

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. And so thankfully he's got really great insurance. So

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<v Speaker 1>he that's why they were like, no, don't be mad,

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<v Speaker 1>don't leave, don't not come back, because they know that

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<v Speaker 1>his insurance is going to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just like, I just want to get checked

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<v Speaker 1>just to make sure everything is But yeah, it's but

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about waiting for the doctor because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go see like a fertility specialis because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Superman and I try to have this baby. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yeah, we'll see you in a month. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait what and I'm like they get girl, you tried

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<v Speaker 1>it going to the next one. They were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you in a month and a half. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, never mind, I'll be back a month.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the norm. And so now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>got that good insurance, I mean, I guess I have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait, and you know, so I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>All just My trick is always just to call and

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<v Speaker 2>ask for cancelations, and they usually I have luck that way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that's a good I always cancel. You know. People

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<v Speaker 2>get a little too ambitious with their health planning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then don't show up.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought about that. Well, let's up. It's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in like a week or so, my first one,

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<v Speaker 1>so I said, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's not too rarely to remind people about open enrollment.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people like at their jobs. Open enrollment starts in

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<v Speaker 2>the fall, I think, and usually have until like mid November.

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<v Speaker 2>Or late November to finish your elections.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you're right, it is about opening Roman time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the time. This is when I get to

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<v Speaker 2>make up for that mistake we made after we got married,

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<v Speaker 2>where we missed the window to add me to my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, healthcare plan. I think what was thirty day

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<v Speaker 2>window or sixty day window? Anyway, we totally missed it. Whoops.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had to wait for open enrollment to make

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<v Speaker 2>any changes.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, that's right, that's the one thing we did. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like because honestly, I kept I was sweating it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so what about that help pan make

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<v Speaker 1>that call? Make that call fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're a pay for Obamacare before that, right what?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I it lapsed because I thought that you

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<v Speaker 1>got signed up right away. So I was like, yay,

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<v Speaker 1>cancel everything. So I canceled and they were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have insurance, but it's going to take thirty days

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<v Speaker 1>to kick in. I was like, oh fake. So of

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<v Speaker 1>course during that lapse, I had to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor like I was. I had like this wicked stomach ache,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I ended up going to the emergency room,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did not want to go but I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be fine. My mom's a nurse, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you rasy? So you just rather die? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have another week before restaurants kick said. She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so you'll just die here. So I went and it

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<v Speaker 1>just turned out. Honestly, I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought maybe I had like a kidney like stone

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, but it ended up not being

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<v Speaker 1>anything crazy. I likely ate something. They couldn't really find anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, after giving me something to soothe my stomach

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, I was okay, but I'd been suffering

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<v Speaker 1>with it for like the weekend, and I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm dying on the inside. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it ended up being my imagine this. My bill ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being with all of the tests that they ran,

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars and then they like whittled it down,

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<v Speaker 1>like with me actually owing about two thousand. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, my heart, I know he said ten dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I saw the bill and I was like, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, but you go ahead, I want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Well, I wanted to say one quick thing

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<v Speaker 2>because when you earlier, when you were like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he has that good insurance and it'll cover whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>MRI is, no matter what the cost is. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you don't realize how important it is for these healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>services to get their costs in line until you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have insurance and you have to pay the sticker price.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think so many of us who are fortunate

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<v Speaker 2>enough to have that, you know, insurance that'll cover anything,

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<v Speaker 2>like I never thought I never used to think about

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<v Speaker 2>how much anything cost. And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us were in that who have insurance or like in

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<v Speaker 2>that little like naive headspace or whatever. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 2>way that health care services are raising in prices, and

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<v Speaker 2>these these pharmaceutical companies and these healthcare these insurance companies

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<v Speaker 2>can charge these crazy rate rates is not good for anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It just drives all sorts of healthcare, drives insurance prices higher,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for on our premiums. It makes health care

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<v Speaker 2>more affordable unaffordable if you don't have insurance. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like, and it's scary because honestly, there was tests

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted to run that. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. And my mom was with me at the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital and she was like, you know, the nurse at

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<v Speaker 1>her was like, no, run it. I'm looking at her like, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have money? Do you have running money? I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the adult like do you have McDonald's money?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like when you want McDonald's as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>And your mom was like, go to home. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that money, I know. So they're running all these tests,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you I felt I felt worse only because

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like I swear that, like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a heart attack in here, because every time they

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<v Speaker 1>had me run something, I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna be able to afford

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<v Speaker 1>this bill. Oh my gosh. So they like ran every

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<v Speaker 1>little thing and they're like, oh so basically thought it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're fine. Did you eat something? I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna throw up. So when I got that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, basically, oh the pep those fifty dollars by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and so yeah, so no, I totally understand

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like to like not want to actually

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<v Speaker 1>even go get service because you're just like I literally

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford to be well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, my dad has. My poor dad, it's a miracle.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like all in one piece. But because he never

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<v Speaker 2>had any insurance, he didn't have insurance until Obamacare, and

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<v Speaker 2>he would his teeth were falling. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>put his business out there, but he was like falling apart.

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<v Speaker 2>And so as soon as he got Obamacare, he went

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<v Speaker 2>and got you know, he Well, this is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why people are saying Obamacare plans are expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people like my father, who went

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<v Speaker 2>from having no insurance to having all the insurance, were

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<v Speaker 2>like walking into doctors like it was supermarket sweeps and

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<v Speaker 2>was like give me that, give me that, give me that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it. A gastric bypass surgery, I mean, which

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<v Speaker 2>cured his diabetes and like all these great services, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>not as many healthy people were signing up for insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>and like that's sort of what's skewing, Like what sort

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<v Speaker 2>of had in a lot of places has led to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the you know, quote unquote expensive like Obamacare plans,

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<v Speaker 2>because when enough young, healthy people don't sign up, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happens. I didn't know that yeah, blame my daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Blame it on my daddy. So speaking of putting to

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<v Speaker 1>blame on someone, let's talk about forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Can okay, fine, you know, just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in the context of Puerto Ricano.

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<v Speaker 2>Put Ricoh, yeah, thank God for thank God for well

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<v Speaker 2>Miranda who I loved him so much. I have such

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<v Speaker 2>an intellectual crush on him, it's not even funny. But uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you brought it up, so you get to you get

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<v Speaker 2>this is your moment, shine.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say, Puerto rican people, One,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you are part of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America. Even though I think what it was, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there a pole, Like forty seven percent of folks

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<v Speaker 1>did not know that Puerto Rico was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That almost seems low to me. But yeah, definitely, like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't understand where Puerto Ricans in

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<v Speaker 2>America makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So One, that's the thing, Puerto Rico is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, they're citizens. Two like for the President

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<v Speaker 1>to attack them air of San Juan, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I don't even know that she was overly critical.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than hey, we really like some more aiden help.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like, I don't know how you ask for

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<v Speaker 1>that without saying, hey, we like some more aid and help.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when he came and he was like how

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<v Speaker 1>many people died? Oh, not that many people died. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you at thing kidding me? And then when he

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<v Speaker 1>threw the paper towel into the crowd, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this real life right now?

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<v Speaker 2>But he threw a paper towel into the crowd. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't watched any video of his visit today.

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<v Speaker 1>So honestly, it is sickening. So one, he basically compares

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico to Katrina and says, basically, you guys didn't

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<v Speaker 1>suffer as much as they did. So there's a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, Puerto Ricans like watching the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference or whatever, and he throws a paper towel into

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd, like I'm not certain like what that was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do was that here's your aid? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>he lobs it into the crowd like aw here, y'all go,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like Beyonce like throwing like her you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, a T shirt into the crowd for them

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<v Speaker 1>to like go which crazy. I don't. I'm uncertain on

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<v Speaker 1>the reasoning. But I don't know if reasoning and forty

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<v Speaker 1>five have anything to do with each other. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy, and I just I'm just gonna leave it

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<v Speaker 1>in a real light because I feel like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't, Like whenever I listen to him talk, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel my I get anxious, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not do this. Let's not do this, Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>do this. I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, let's do a little bit. Let's do a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Because here's what got me in up and

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<v Speaker 2>up in arms. And this is the same comment that

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<v Speaker 2>Lin Men mel Miranda landed himself on the cover of

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Daily News with his response. But Trump tweeted,

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<v Speaker 2>in all his buffoonery, that Puerto Ricans want everyone to

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<v Speaker 2>do everything for them, like like they're complaining that they

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<v Speaker 2>aren't getting enough aid and they just want people to

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<v Speaker 2>do everything for them. And my immediate reaction is like

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<v Speaker 2>like when Lin Manuel, his his reaction was basically like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're going straight to hell. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>he just unleash on him. But it is just it's

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<v Speaker 2>so in furiating. His response for like multiple reasons because

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the biggest for me is the

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<v Speaker 2>history of old white politicians, Republican politicians, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>characterizing people in need, Brown people who are in need

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<v Speaker 2>as taking advantage of federal services as if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>deserve them as much as like other Americans. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what pissed me off is just that's he's so good

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<v Speaker 2>at pandering to his base. He knows what to say.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, Oh, I'm going to excuse myself because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to characterize them as these other brown people

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<v Speaker 2>on this island over here, you know, for all his

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<v Speaker 2>base knows they're probably just you know, Mexicans who can

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<v Speaker 2>swim and made it across, you know, like or live

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<v Speaker 2>on some island. Like that's what they think. They're so ignorant.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just know that by him saying that, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just feeding more fuel to that fire, to that prejudice,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that for me was like, that was my

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<v Speaker 2>get at That was my like shut down on Trump

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<v Speaker 2>moment for the weekend. When he said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, but you're right, it was very much like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, here goes these these begging browns again, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like that's not how this works.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people can be in need of help and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, I don't understand. It's a it's a hurricane,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a storm, the island is is in desperate need

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<v Speaker 1>of help. How does that? How does that turn into

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<v Speaker 1>like y'all always beg it for something? It's just honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, what is happening? You want to just

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<v Speaker 1>think about that? You wake up and you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>where am I in America? Wait? What is happening? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a real thing? Is a real person?

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<v Speaker 2>I did yesterday? I did that thing where I woke

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<v Speaker 2>up late, I took a shower and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>running around and I looked. I just happened to glance

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<v Speaker 2>at the TV because has baby is watching? And it

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<v Speaker 2>had the Las Vegas shooting, and I like, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a moment where I was like, what this isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>real story or like watching Homeland or some like TV

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<v Speaker 2>show for it, For like five seconds, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>that what I was seeing was real and it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was real? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, I can't. That's something about the Vegas shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jesus Christ, you know, of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ever since Sandy hook. I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have felt, Okay, well, if twenty six dead children couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>change anything, you know, nothing's going to happen. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in that camp for a while. But something about yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>with Vegas, I don't know, I got so many I

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<v Speaker 2>got several texts from friends who were just really shaken

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<v Speaker 2>up about it, and and I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for me, you know, there and things that

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<v Speaker 2>have happened in New York recently because I live here,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you put up a tough front in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. You're like, you know, of course we're a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, major target, and anything can happen at any moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just got to like live your life anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But with this the shooting, with all the like the

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<v Speaker 2>cars running people over in Europe and other countries, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had that maniac and Times Square he ran over

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people. We had that Chelsea bombing that

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<v Speaker 2>was less than a year ago. That was like free

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<v Speaker 2>Blockstrom where I work. And I feel like the tent,

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<v Speaker 2>like the rising level of awareness that at any moment

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<v Speaker 2>some lunatics it's just so hard to prevent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>gun control is one thing but one crazy person with

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<v Speaker 2>a bad intention. I mean, like it's like needle in

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<v Speaker 2>a haystack. And I think that that feeling of like

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<v Speaker 2>not being any control and just that like anxiety is

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<v Speaker 2>creeping up on a people, and something about this attack

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like, I don't know, apart from it being

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most brutal in our country's history, felt

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<v Speaker 2>it felt especially bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know what. I what really twisted the

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<v Speaker 1>knife of the attack for me is like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they are discussing the terrorists, because let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, because it's just it's so crazy. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a lone wolf. Oh you know, he wasn't acting

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<v Speaker 1>if this had been imagined if he had been Muslim, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, or brown? Like what how they would have

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<v Speaker 1>described When I saw that the Washington Post that there

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<v Speaker 1>their title or one of their articles. The headline for

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<v Speaker 1>their article was Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock enjoyed gambling,

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<v Speaker 1>country music, lived a quiet life before massacre. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? Oh? I'm sorry? How nice for him? How

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<v Speaker 1>nice for him that his trivial pastimes are remembered after murdering,

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<v Speaker 1>murdering fifty nine people and injuring hundreds of others. How

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<v Speaker 1>nice that we get to know that he loved country

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<v Speaker 1>music and lived a quiet life. Are you kidding? Trayvon

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<v Speaker 1>Martin was a kid and he was a thug, like

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Garner was selling Lucy's and he was a thug.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we knew all these We didn't. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about their their past times and what they'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>do when they were hanging out. Why is it that

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<v Speaker 1>this clear murderer and terrorist is given that space of

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<v Speaker 1>normalizing him, you know, like they you when it's anyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>when a brown person is literally criminalized for being murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra Bland, you're digging up. Oh, you know one time

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<v Speaker 1>in second grade, san Jo Blaine. You know, she hit

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<v Speaker 1>her friend, so you already knew this was gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that she got murdered is really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of her fault. But this clear murderer, this terrorist is

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<v Speaker 1>given that, you know, like the way he's being described

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<v Speaker 1>when they're interviewing his brother, did he have mental illness?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't ask that of anyone else that was killed

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<v Speaker 1>and murdered, And I'm just like, wow, Honestly, sometimes I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sick of this country, Like this is why that, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why things continue. It's that the I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even trying to be polarizing. It just is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Is that if he had been anything

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<v Speaker 1>other than a white man, the truth of matter is

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they're discussing him, they would not be

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<v Speaker 1>discussing him in this way. They would not they would

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<v Speaker 1>not be giving him all the space and room to

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<v Speaker 1>be human, to be Oh you know, he was just

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<v Speaker 1>he was a troubled man. Oh you think he killed

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<v Speaker 1>fifty people. I just like just reading headlines like that

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<v Speaker 1>from semi reputable media outlets just really like boils my

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<v Speaker 1>blood because I'm just like, are you kidding me? He

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<v Speaker 1>liked country music and gambling and lived a quiet life.

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<v Speaker 1>But meanwhile, you call a kid a thug because a

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<v Speaker 1>thug killed him, Like, yeah, It's just I'm over it, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I see what you're saying. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think one reason they haven't used the word terrorist is

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<v Speaker 2>like I and this is, you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what you said about the way that they've characterized people

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<v Speaker 2>who've died of color and people who have been killed

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<v Speaker 2>who are of color is right. But the thing about

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<v Speaker 2>terrorism that I like, I understand why they haven't labeled

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<v Speaker 2>him a terrorist, because technically terrorism is when it's politically motivated,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have no idea what the hell his motive

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<v Speaker 2>was yet, And like, although the Islamic State has claimed him,

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<v Speaker 2>they also claim a lot of buffoonery that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in violence that isn't actually you know, part of their

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<v Speaker 2>part of their doing. They haven't found any proof yet

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<v Speaker 2>that it was terrorism. I think they're still looking, and you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I kind of want to give them time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy that they're not saying, they're not jumping to

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<v Speaker 2>a terrorist conclusion now. I do think that he's getting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more space, and they have been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more hesitant because he is a white man. I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that if he had been brown, or any

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<v Speaker 2>racially ambiguous color, or like had a weird last name,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot and more. I think the talk

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<v Speaker 2>of terrorism would have been much more quick and much

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<v Speaker 2>and we would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Cautious exactly they would they would have used no caution

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<v Speaker 1>to call him the terrorists from no Rip because at

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<v Speaker 1>first they were like, do you think it's isis? And

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<v Speaker 1>then when they were like, oh, Okay, no, even though

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<v Speaker 1>iis claim responsibility, you know, because like you said, they

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<v Speaker 1>always do. They were like, oh no, because you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe technically he's not considered a terrorist, but I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>that if he was anything other than a white male,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have used that without any hesitation. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's what it's, whether technical or not, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Always things like he was a suspected terrorist or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at least the question would have come up a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we can only assume. I think, but

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of like the profile of a mass shooter

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<v Speaker 2>in America, he's almost a textbook definition other than the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he's not twenty two years old, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>white male and more like, the majority of mass shootings

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<v Speaker 2>in America have been caused by white men, like and

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<v Speaker 2>people don't want to acknowledge that. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I've been seeing in people at news reports, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't fit the profile, you know of a typical,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a mass shooter. I don't know, a loaner.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like he was a loaner. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>he's a white guy. You know, he had I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's his whole. I don't know. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're still trying to figure out who he is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I give a lot of credit. One thing happens so fast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do give a lot of credit because I

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<v Speaker 2>know how hard people are working to get stories of

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<v Speaker 2>the victims. And I today, this is what day three

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<v Speaker 2>since the attack? Day no, this is the second full

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<v Speaker 2>day scency attack. Today, I saw a lot of stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just because I was choosing to see them.

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<v Speaker 2>Of stories of the people who were of the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>nine fifty nine, right, something like fifty nine who died, Yeah,

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine starting to come. And I don't know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad, you know, I at least want to. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad that they're getting some attention. But I agree it's

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<v Speaker 2>really important how they characterize these shooters. And yeah, I

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>think your frustration is well placed. Not that you need

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<v Speaker 2>to me to validate you, but I agree, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just so frustrating because you're just like really like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can kill someone and be humanized, but I

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<v Speaker 1>could be killed and be demonized, and it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I look like I'm over it. That

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<v Speaker 1>should be the way we should close off the the buzzworthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think our hearts go out to the victims. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>in Vegas, people still struggling in Puerto Rico. I don't know,

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 2>hug a loved one. It really, you know, forget all

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<v Speaker 2>the politics, forget all the you know, all this is

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<v Speaker 2>like valid, But I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a reminder too. Every day is a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing is for certain, and I don't know our politicians

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<v Speaker 2>aren't gonna be protecting us from types of gun violence apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>So don't take any day for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>And do something. I always think this that, like my

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>philosophy is like if I can help like the people

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<v Speaker 1>on my and my most immediate spear, like the people

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I watch Superman, like help the kids

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<v Speaker 1>next door, and you know, put air in this one's

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<v Speaker 1>bike and you know, order an extra uniform when he

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>orders his daughter's uniform, that kind of thing, and that

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>radiates outward, you know, And so sometimes you know, people

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>think that like, oh, you've you've got to do these

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>huge overtures, and I'm really learning that you know that

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily true, that you don't necessarily have to

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>make these huge overtures that like looking after the little

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<v Speaker 1>kids on your block, or making sure the old lady

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 1>down the street, you know, is okay in the winter,

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and all those things. Those things matter, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>start to radiate positivity right where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Heymen, sister friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now it's time to break or boost for all

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>our family break or booze boost? Break? What will it be? Mandy?

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<v Speaker 1>That was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>That was top three because it actually I know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know where it came from, and I'm not gonna lie.

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>As I was nearing to the clothes, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't blow the cippy, don't you blow this? And then

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>your name popped into my head and I said, I said, Robs,

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<v Speaker 1>just do it, Just do it. Be calm. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, I'm feeling very proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, jay Z watch out.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you gonna break? Are you gonna boost?

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do. I need to add an addendum

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<v Speaker 2>to my my break from last week. Remember when I

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 2>took a break from meal prep. I said it was stupid.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, I was exhausted. I said it was the worst.

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, these mommy bloggers have no idea what they're

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>talking about. I know they didn't come for me. They

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't actually call them out, so maybe now they will.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I remember I gave that boost on like Monday when

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>we were recording and I actually hadn't had a week

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<v Speaker 2>to eat my my my prepped meals. And actually, by

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<v Speaker 2>like day three, when I was so relieved to actually

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<v Speaker 2>have food in the fridge for dinner, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, maybe I kind of understand why people do

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<v Speaker 2>meal prep because I legitimately I had food to eat

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>when I was too tired to cook, and I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why to. I mean, I just

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I think I just had to. Actually I had I

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 2>spoke too soon, and I apologize to the meal prep

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>fans of America. This week I did not do such

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>an ambitious meal prep. There was no spaghetti, squash and

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.919
<v Speaker 2>like thirteen different you know, types of vegetables. I just

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>baked some salmon and I just have it for dinner.

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just very simple. So I simplified and

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 2>it's going much better. But I'm still eating out for lunch.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm treating my I'm letting myself eat out for lunch.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing, I'm paying more attention to what I'm eating

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 2>for dinner, like at home, because I didn't get home

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>so late.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's good. So I'm glad because you're

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>right mill purpose. I mean it could be overwhelming sometimes

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, You're like wall, I have to chop

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and skip and and you know, but more and more

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>now that I'm which, I like this new term a

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>vanity vegan, and I accepted. I embrace it. Wait what

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a vanity vegan? That's what someone called me. I

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>was like, girl, you not. You won't say nothing, but

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>where are you here? I am I feeling what is that

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>vanity vegan? So most vegans from like doing a little research,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>research meeting, Like I'm part of one Facebook group, so

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever that vegans, I guess to be a true vegan,

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it for the animals and like, yeah, you're

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like the health is secondary. It's like, no, I want

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to save the animals. And although I do like animals,

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying that I don't want the animals

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<v Speaker 1>to be healthy. I do. My primary reason for being

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>vegan is one to be snatched, two to be healthier.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Three you know, hey, yes, I would like the animals

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>not to have a terrible life. But I'm not gonna lie.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm honest here snatchness is eye on the list. So

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>someone was like, girl, you're a vanity vegan. I said,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I will take it. So I'm a vanity vegan. And

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<v Speaker 1>so meal prep is definitely helpful because I can't, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't honestly, I go down near hungry at

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>night or I have to eat like a cereal with

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>with almond milk. So if I don't like, kind of

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like decide, like, you know, Tiffany, let's chop up. Like

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I've had cauliflower rice for the first time, but I

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>had to chop that up. But it was actually really good.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I have to plan in advance.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro tip Trader Joe sells it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the two who shopwrite tells it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried it and I actually really liked it.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I made myself this like Santa fe bol, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like typically that would be like rice, and it would

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>be like all these kind of like quote unquote air

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>quotes Mexican like like beans and and like tomatoes and

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>guaqu and sour cream all that kind of stuff and cheese.

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>So I did. I did with colidflower rice and I

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>put beans and corn and no cheese obviously, no sour cream,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>but guac and what else did I have on it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was really good, honestly, so it was like a

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Santa fe bol without any dairy or any meat. Basically,

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like a bowl of veggies. And it was

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.719
<v Speaker 1>so delicious, honestly, so delicious. It's one of my new

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>favorite warm dishes where it's basically a bowl of vegetables,

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't kind of taste like it. It tastes

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>like you might be having, like, you know, a rice

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and beans bowl, but you're really not. You're just eating vegetables.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds taste so love It was, yes, oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Squawka's best. So here's my I'm not gonna boost. I've

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>been boosting lately, which is good, but I'm going to break.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a little light hearted break, but I'm sick

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of it. So here's what I'm sick of. I'm sick

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of everyone pumpkin spicing every dagon thing. When I went

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to the supermarket and I saw they had cheerios pumpkin

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>spice cheerios, I said, I've added I've had a mouth.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I get it, it's fall. I think, what did pumpkin

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>spice start? Did it start with with the latte at Starbucks?

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that who started this whole trend of pumpkin spicing thing?

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, lord knows Yankee Candles probably had a pumpkin

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>spice candle for decades. But yes, I think Starbucks the

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>flavoring of pumpkin spice. We can lame that on Starbucks

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and basic pitches.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I'm sick of it. I've actually found like

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of hilarious means like tam PACs pumpkin spice.

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>They have pumpkin spice xanax.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so so excited that you broke on this. Actually

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you kind of stole my break for next week, but

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let you have it because because I had

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>the exact same thought. Me and my team at Magnified

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Money and earlier this month, we sent out our reporter,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Brittany shout out to Brittany to five to seven different

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>grocery stores, and we had her look at two hundred

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>different products, the pumpkin spice version and the regular version,

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and we calculated how much retailers are charging for pumpkin

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 2>spice taxes, That's what I'm calling it. So that's like

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the up charge that they put on products when they're

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>pumpkin spice. Yes, guess this is like a this is

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 2>a sneak peak because we have not released this, we

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>have not released the results of the study yet. And

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna be special because we're supposed to be

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to be under embargo. But whatever, you're gonna

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>get a little taste. So here's the thing, Like, the

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<v Speaker 2>worst offender for pumpkin spice taxes was Trader Joe's, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>hands down, my baby Trader JOm my baby Trader Joe's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for an example, here's one of the most infuriating

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 2>things because not only are some businesses charging more for

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>pumpkin spice products, they're giving you less of the products

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and they have the audacity to charge more for it.

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So have you ever heard of so you just said

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>pumpkin spice cereal? Right, So, for example, Trader Joe's has

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>regular Trader Joe's O's, which is like their cheerios fifteen

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>ounces for one ninety nine pumpkin o's Pumpkin O's for

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>twelve ounce. Is that three ounces less, it costs two

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine So seventy cents more for three ounces less.

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a sixty nine percent Wow. Pumpkin spice tax rate

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>per ounce. You're welcome, America. We're all being screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are, and I'm over it. They have pumpkin

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>spice Oreo Pokies. Have you seen this?

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, don't to hear how much more

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>they charge for the Oreo pumpkin spice, I mean the

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>pumpkin spice Oreo. It's a thirty thirty three percent pumpkin

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>spice rate pumpkin spice tax rate on the Oreos pumpkin

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>spice flavor at Target thirty three percent more.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a lot.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 2>You get four ounces less.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't. I'm closing when I yeah, I just

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>honestly when it was the Cheerios that did me in

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>because I was like walking down the aisle and I'm like, wait, what,

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I see a big old pumpkin on a Cheerios box.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, that doesn't belong there. I saw it and

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to take my arm, pull it out straight

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and put a fist at the end and just drag

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>my arm across the shelf and then knock it all

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>down and just run and say no by back gets byes,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>we're balds, We're balds. Was this I didn't. Instead, I

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>just discussed and I said to myself, did shall be

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>my bomb break?

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 2>You don't want one hundred and thirty You don't want

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to pay one hundred and thirty three percent tax rate

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>on pumpkin spice pancake mix from freder Joe's.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>You get ten ounces less than the real version and

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you pay a dollar more.

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>That is just I'm like, you know, I always think this.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>It's so you know, because we live in the Northeast, right,

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, so quote unquote, I guess you could

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>call it spoiled by the fact that we have seasons

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<v Speaker 1>in the way like they are like in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like hey, fall gets chilli and the leaves

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<v Speaker 1>tearing colors. So do they pumpkin spice it up in

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<v Speaker 1>like California and places where the seasons are not like ours,

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<v Speaker 1>they have their own kind of seasons. Oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know what I mean, Like, I'm always curious,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>They do even more because they don't have the seasons

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to pretend that they do, although it

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<v Speaker 2>does get cold in La in like California, it gets cold,

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<v Speaker 2>and right.

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<v Speaker 1>I always just I just wonder that they're like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>like for places like, you know, when we have these

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<v Speaker 1>super seasonal items, do places that kind of they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the fluctuating weather that we have. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like girl, like say Hawaii, they're like, girl,

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>get out of here with this pumpkin spice. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>same all year round beautiful. So I'm just curious about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wonder, just a little wandering.

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<v Speaker 2>There's basic bitches everywhere. I'm sure made it around the round. Well,

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>you're welcome for the sink peak at our pumpkin spice

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<v Speaker 2>talk story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I definitely want to read it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get so mad talking about it. All right, Well, anyway, moving.

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<v Speaker 1>On question Q. Question question question, So who today needs

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<v Speaker 1>to get their life together that we can only dream

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<v Speaker 1>to help.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good way of putting it, I know, right,

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, in.

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<v Speaker 1>Other words, we're not experts, I mean well meaning like

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>you need a lawyer or a doctor or nurse or whatever.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>We're just here to give friendly girlfriend advice that you

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>should run by an expert that you're paying money to.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I felt you like, that's our disclosure for a girl.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Someone asked me the other day something about like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you tell us stuff, should.

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<v Speaker 2>We just do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, girl, I'm not Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I don't want a letter from your lawyer saying

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<v Speaker 2>we followed your advice from episode sixty two point five

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and you told us to do X Y Z, and

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>now we're broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Do yeah know yeah, I'm like no, no, don't no, no,

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>do your googles? Do you discernment Like I'm not Jesus Christ,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not God. I'm merely someone who will let it

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<v Speaker 1>for what I need and then I'll pass it along

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you can decide, and you should bet it

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>even further and then decide for yourself. Shoall someho, I

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>should not just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but in all seriousness, I mean in all seriousness

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>when I when I'm reviewing questions, if it is too

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<v Speaker 2>complex for us, or if it's beyond what I think

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 2>is our general like knowledge, I typically refer people to

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>sources that they can use instead, or refer them to,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, talk to an expert so anyway, don't you

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry. I mean, I feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>questions we answer on the show are pretty much in

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<v Speaker 2>line with what we know, at least enough to get

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<v Speaker 2>people started.

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<v Speaker 1>Very true.

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<v Speaker 2>With that being said, send us your questions. Go to

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<v Speaker 2>brund Ambition podcast dot com click on ask us anything.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>You can be anonymous. We will not be outing anyone's

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>financial ghosts on the show. But yeah, we have a

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>couple of the questions for today. We'll try it. Maybe

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>we can get through too. So this reader, this listener anyway,

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 2>messaged us and she says I had an apartment in

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<v Speaker 2>my name. I think she wants to remain anonymous, so

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I won't reveal her name. So I had an apartment

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<v Speaker 2>in my name for a relative. This was before I

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<v Speaker 2>got credit smart. They moved out of the apartment and

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>broke the lease. I didn't know they moved out, and

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 2>they didn't let me know. A few months later, I

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>got a credit collection letter in the mail. Furious, but

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 2>I paid it off in full. Later I found out

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that there was a judgment filed with the county courts

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>when I tried to get an apartment myself. A few

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 2>years later, I was told I could have the judgment

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>lifted by reporting by the credit reporting company, and recently

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>they did submit an update to the courts. However, the

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>update just said it was dismissed without prejudice, which I

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>later found out means that they can actually reopen the

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 2>case if they wanted to. It should have been filed

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 2>as dismissed with prejudice, meaning the case is closed and

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>the balance is paid in full. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>suggestions on how to resolve this and have it removed

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 2>from my credit report?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one, she's right, because I did my googles as

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<v Speaker 1>far as it's like the difference which you dismissed without

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<v Speaker 1>dismissed with prejudice, but what my Google's also revealed to me?

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>And I asked like a quick like one of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends who's a lawyer. We were just like Facebook chatting,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>so I was asking her. She said that typically when

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>something is dismissed without prejudice, it means that they can

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<v Speaker 1>refile once, but there's a statute of limitations, meaning like

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it has to be filed within a certain time period.

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.959
<v Speaker 1>So I if you can find out in your state,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, do it like a Google search, because

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>even though it was dismissed without prejudice. If that statute,

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's six months, if it's a year, whatever, if

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that time has passed, you don't have to worry about

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>them trying to come back and get money from you.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>But I can't understand your nervousness. My assumption is that

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you're nervous that they might come back and be like, side,

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>we want our money. Even though you paid so one,

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, it might not if it was a year

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>ago or whatever, and you're like, oh, it's past the statute.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>They even though it was dismissed without prejudice, they can't

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>come back because that time has expired. Then I wouldn't

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>worry about that if the time has expired, unless that

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>wording is keeping you from getting an apartment. But if

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's still within that time, I would think that you

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>would go back to the to the credit company right

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, why is it like this? Or go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the court system and say why is this?

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Why is it still kind of like pending and open

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who do I need to speak to in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get that fixed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Or ask if they can put a note even

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<v Speaker 2>if they have to keep the with prejudice there with prejudice,

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<v Speaker 2>but balance paid in full. My only concern is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that she'll ever get it off her credit report.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's legitimate, you know you were, your name

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>was on the apartment. It's it's your credit unfortunately, I think,

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and she says, it's been a few years later, so

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<v Speaker 2>that might mean that you have a few more years

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>of this being on your credit report. So unfortunately, there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably not a way for you to get it off

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>your credit report. But maybe there's a way for them

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<v Speaker 2>to at least note on their balance paid in full,

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<v Speaker 2>so that the next time you apply for an apartment

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<v Speaker 2>you can at least you can you can defend yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, I paid it in full and try to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, explain yourself to whoever's doing the background check. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my good friend actually was just searching for an apartment

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<v Speaker 2>in New York and she this might be a case

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>where someone has a similar name to her, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if this has happened to anyone else. But she

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<v Speaker 2>apparently these people who like own this apartment are really

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<v Speaker 2>sticklers for background checks, and they did this crazy check

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out like she found or they said

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<v Speaker 2>that she had a similar a similar mark or like

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>a judgment in like a county back in Georgia where

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 2>she's from from over ten years ago, from missing a

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 2>bunch of rent payments and it wasn't on her credit report,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>but they had filed the claim in court apparently with

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the county, and this had come up in a background

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<v Speaker 2>check for an apartment all these years later and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't her and she was sort of she had to

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<v Speaker 2>move on to a different apartment because she tried calling

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>the county, she tried to call with the court. She

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 2>called all these people to try and figure out and

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<v Speaker 2>even though the core, the county, whoever she called, said

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't find the same record that this background check found. Okay,

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>there really wasn't anything she could do and it wasn't

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 2>on her credit report. It was just stopping her from

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>getting an apartment, which sucked. All she could do is just,

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, give up on that apartment and try to

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<v Speaker 2>find another one where they weren't going to do such

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy I don't know background check.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it is weird. So you know, that brought

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>up reminded me. Remember I talked about last week, how

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<v Speaker 1>for an order for Superman and I to close on

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<v Speaker 1>the house, we have to do the title search, and

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<v Speaker 1>it pulled up some old ticket or whatever he had

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<v Speaker 1>for one hundred something dollars, right, So it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, wait, So I was asking him,

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<v Speaker 1>like it seems weird that, like, why would we have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay this in order to move forward? We don't

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>so that he can leave that hundred and something thousand

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<v Speaker 1>that hundred Oh what if it was one hundred something thousand,

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>forget it. I'd be like, boy, I'm out, I'm out,

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>or your neighbor's office. But for that hundred and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like one hundred and eight dollars, So that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that he had to pay it because we're buying

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the house cash. But what happens is if we were

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>getting a mortgage, the mortgage company may not give us

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the mortgage because to them that because he owed and

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>he'd be an owner of the house, that would be

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a lean against the property that would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>satisfied if we decide to sell it, you see what

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean? And so I said, oh, so, I mean

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>we're going to pay it because you know, like why

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>have that sitting there? So if we wanted to refinance.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, the big thing for mortgage companies is if

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<v Speaker 1>one day you can't pay, we have to take this

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>house back from you and sell it. We want to

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>make sure that we get our money back, so if

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there's any lean against your name, we don't want anyone

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>coming at you'd be like, oh, just selling your house.

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>We need our money back as well. And so I

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, so technically, like I said, we don't

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>have to pay that, but I just want to give

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>an update because it was like the news to me

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have to pay it, but it might

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hold us up if we were getting a mortgage or

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>refinance later on in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any way that you could have found that

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<v Speaker 2>out yourself? Like what how if you wanted to? Because

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 2>we got a question about that same thing about happened

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to Superman from a listener who wanted to know if

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>she wants to because she's thinking of buying a house,

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>if she wants to run her own check, Like, is

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 2>there a way do you know how they found it

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and if she could do her or do title search

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>companies just have their own you know.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, honestly, search tools I was shocked. So

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't even like because you know, we checked his

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>credit and even when we were initially we were going

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to get a more expensive house, we were going to

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>get a mortgage, even when because we hadn't done a

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.320
<v Speaker 1>full title search before, but we had definitely like started

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to do the basic mortgage thing. Like they ran his credit,

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>none of that came up. So it's I'm not gonna lie.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't even you know, he was like,

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>what one hundred eighty dollars? I was like, you know,

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>So honestly, I don't know how they found it. It

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't come up on his credit, It didn't show up

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>any other time. I don't know. It's almost like it's

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>almost like a title search. They look at your what

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the court is saying, that's what it looks like, because

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>like I said before, they were like people who owe

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>child support, people who like owe probation and stuff like that,

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>so this was like an outstanding ticket. So it's almost

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:11.879
<v Speaker 1>like that. And I mean, like I said, I don't

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>quote me because I don't know for sure, but it

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>was just looking at the other folks who had similar

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>names to him that weren't him. They all seem like

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>court related finds that were pulled up, and so I

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know honestly, So you might, I mean, I might

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>do a Google start and I can. What I can

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>do is I can ask my title company, like you know, well,

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they tell me like how do

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I do it myself? So but I can certainly ask

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>my realtor, who's amazing, like you know, is there a

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 1>way to kind of pull this up ahead of time?

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 2>All right? Let us know what they find out?

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Lord, I can't wait till we closed. It's just

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>one thing after another, thing after another thing like what's

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the COO. You have to get like a certificate of occupancy,

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Like you have to get like the firehouse to come

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>out and make sure that your house is not like

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>dangerous and all this other stuff before you can buy it.

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So there are all of these things that kind of

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>are not obstacles. But I didn't realize these things that

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>you have to do before you actually close. It's not

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>just enough to say, hey, I have cash, take my money. No,

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>there are things that have to happen, at least in

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the state of New Jersey and in Newark. So I

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know what other states do differently, but I have

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to get a COO. It's two hundred and fifty dollars.

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>But luckily a mina, my realtor negotiated for the for

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the bank to pay that, and so that way, you know,

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll get the whoever to come in and say, yes,

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>this house is safe, here's your certificate of occupancy, and

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>then we can close and give them even more money

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>to close, which is.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Like yay, all right, well good luck. It seems like

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>they will be smooth sailing. I mean maybe I don't know,

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 2>never mind, knock on wed and I'm.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, well, honestly, I'm not even honestly, we're gonna

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>get that. I'm not worried, but I know that, like

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>after this, it's going to be all about renovating. So

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's gonna be delightful stories of oh my god,

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we found it, like, you know, a pack of wild

0:44:58.760 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>raccoon living in the ceil.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Raccoon's better than termine. So right, yes, I mean you

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>can just don't even keep on the pay. Raccoons are

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>very trendy now, They're all over Instagram. All right, you

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 2>have a date, you need to go, you need to move.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I know I do, all right, So let's let's let's

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>do our wins. What you want to win for.

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Michelle. So I want to do my win for the

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth anniversary of my president and my first lady,

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Michelle and Barack Obama. What is a twenty fifth anniversary?

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Is that your silver cotton? I don't know. There's always

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>materials that go with.

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Each Yeah, there's like a I think diamond is like fiftieth.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, something like that. But twenty five years sounds

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>like a lifetime. I mean it is a lifetime. So congratulations.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 2>There are still a couple goals. There are still adult goals,

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 2>life goals, there everything. And I and I say this

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like Michelle is having She's finally coming

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit back out in spotlight. You see, she

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 2>did a talk at some conference with Shonda Rhymes, and

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 2>she met She really is opening up about being first Lady.

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait for her book to come out. I

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>know why she's been so quiet, because she's like, I'm

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 2>going to save all the tea for my book and

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 2>then it shall be spilled and I will make millions

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.760
<v Speaker 2>of dollars, which I you know, she should make millions

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 2>of dollars off of it. But uh, I can't wait.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I think the book is coming out early next year.

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. Like, honestly, you're right, I'd love to

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:26.760
<v Speaker 1>hear the tea the tete.

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that I got her this book. I

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 2>can't wait to read hers.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what she's like. What's her book? It's her

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>book about like specifically about the election, we just in general.

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm on page five and it's five hundred pages. But

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>in the first few pages, I mean I wanted to

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>read it because I kept reading everyone's opinion about it,

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, no one's read this book yet, Like

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 2>it's five hundred pages. It just came out a week ago.

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 2>People need to actually read it first. But no, it

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 2>is it's like her, it's it's I think what it is.

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I just reading her, just reading her author's note at

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. I understand why she wrote it. And yeah,

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people who were upset. They're like, well,

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 2>she sit down and shut up. She lost the election,

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>me to move on. She's just a sore loser, you know.

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>She wants to take a chance to blame everyone but herself.

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, I think what she wants is, you know

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>how the winners in history are the ones who write history.

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I think this is her saying, I'm not going to

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 2>let this winner write the history books the way he

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>wants them. I'm going to put my voice out there.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell the story as I saw it

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>in my perspective. Matters and it should be out there.

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 2>And I was the first female to ever be nominated

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>by a major party for president, and that matters, and

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to tell that story. And yeah, I think,

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 2>of course it also covers everything that, you know, what

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 2>happened to the election, but she also is talking about

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 2>what's happened after. She talks about being there at the

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>inaugural and how sick she felt during and how she

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>almost did it go to the inaugural. So it's it's juicy,

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, I'm going to read the whole thing.

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm interested. I think, yeah, it shouldn't just

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>be Lord knows. I don't want the only record of

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>this election to be at all clockwork orange in the

0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 2>White House.

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's like the perfec name for it

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>for him, flockwork Orange. Well, my whin it's gonna be

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a personal win. And I think

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of women kind of kind of relate that

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I was going to actually do you know first lady

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>in President Rock, but I was like, oh man, he's

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a thief, so whatever, since I stole pumpkins vice from you,

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, whenever I'll take it, we share, we share.

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>So my win is just like a little bit personal

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>because I am getting better at And I don't know

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>if if women, I mean, maybe not you, because I

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like you've like are like someone who's not easily

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>as intimidated because surprisingly, even though I have my own business,

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I can easily be not I don't know if intimidated

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is the word, but I'm a like a let's not bite,

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>let's just say you got it type of person. You know.

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>So I used to hire what I would call or

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>not even just hire, but I used to have at

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>least one what I call a bully friend. And I've

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>noticed that this has been a trend since I was

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 1>a kid, Like there was always somebody in my life

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>who is my friend, but there was an edge of

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>bullyiness in that, you know, where I was like whenever

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>they came around, I'd be like Oh my god, it's

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>my bully friend. Hey girl, Hey, yeah, whatever you want,

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. You know, I'll send the back. No, no,

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the problem. You could take the bigger share,

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll get the middle seat. And I don't know what

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it is or what it is about that person's personality

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that they would not necessarily bully other people, but there

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was something in them and something in me. When we

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>got together. I became like subservient and they became like

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of a bully and I wouldn't see them do

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that to other people, and I was wondering, like, wow,

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>what is that. So I have finally recognized it because

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a friend of mine who told me that.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>He was like, why do you like I just talk

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to you that way? And I'm like like what, They're like,

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, crazy, I'm like do they They're like,

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah. So just recently I have been really cleaning

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 1>out because one of my best friends in high school

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was a bully friend. It was awesome at first, who

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>were best friends. Everything was great, and then it's almost

0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like maybe I let her say something to me sideways

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and I let it slide, and then it grew By

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the time we graduated in high college. She was terrible

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to me anyway, and it like it took everything in

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>me to kind of let her go. But I recognize that,

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Like every once in a while, I would pick up

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a new bully friend, whether it's somebody who I was

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>working with or you know, something like that. And so

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>recently I really started to clean up the bully friends

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>or just even bully coworkers or bully partners or whatever

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>in my life and gotten rid of them. And like

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, not because they're super terrible people. I'm not

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>even gonna say that. There's just sometimes it's and I

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know where that comes from in me. I don't

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>know if it's because I'm like from a big family.

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that my dad had a really strong personality,

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.919
<v Speaker 1>and I learned to just be like easygoing, like it's fine,

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, Like I don't know what it is, but

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't come out a whole lot. But every once

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in a while, there's just someone who does that. So

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like I, like I said, this is Sia.

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're just assholes and you're nice, Like what is that?

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Why are you blaming your self?

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they're just there.

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, and I don't. I mean, it's

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that's to me, it's easy to dismiss it, dismiss it

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>at that, but honestly, oftentimes like it doesn't start off

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that way, or I won't see them be like that

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 1>with everyone. And I'm like, and I used to think

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to myself, like when I was kind of like engaged

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in that kind of weird dynamic, that like Tiffany you

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>have to stand up for yourself or Tiffy you have

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to figure out, like how do you conquer this? But

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 1>now I'm realizing at the age I am now, I'm

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 1>not trying to conquer it, just get out, Like I'm

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 1>not trying to figure out like why we had this

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>weird dynamic or how we started off so great and

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>now you're so mean, or now you talk flip to

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>me when we get on the phone and I'm like,

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>what the hell how do we get here? Honestly, I

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 1>don't care anymore. I don't care about the backstory. I'm

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>just now I've just learned to clean out, and so

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>just recently I've done a lot of cleaning out. And

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:52.280
<v Speaker 1>today someone who like is on my team really remarked

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>upon how different I am now that we've done a

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of cleaning and pruning. And she was like, Yo,

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you're like amazing. I'm like what she's like, Your leadership style,

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>your energy, everything's been amazing. And I'm like, wow, So

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it's making this huge difference in that that's a dark cloud.

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And once I'm able to release myself from these type

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of people personally and professionally, you know, I can really

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I think it seems so obvious, but

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's hard, you know. And I didn't even recognize that

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was something that I was doing because just the other

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 1>day I almost hired a bully. And because this person

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 1>brought so much to the table. And I don't even

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 1>think you know, they don't know this, but they brought

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>so much to the table, I thought, Wow, this person

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>is great. Like I'm reading through resumes and I did

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of interviews and I was like, Wow, this

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>person is awesome. This person's great. But then after like

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 1>talking to a bunch of people on the phone, I

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, this person is very aggressive and silent, irreverend,

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and I realized that Tiffany, this is a bully. This

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 1>is a bully. Do not bring this person into your life. No,

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you just got rid of all of your bully friends

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>no more. And so you know, even though her credential

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>were amazing, I said no, because it's possible to be

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 1>both well credentialed and talented and nice.

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh so yeah, And that's that's a poison. That's a

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>poisonous person. It's a toxicity that's going to seep through

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:20.359
<v Speaker 2>every I learned this the hard way last year when

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I hired my I hired this investigative reporter who was

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 2>so well credentialed, and he was he was very he

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>was older, and he was very tough and like rugged,

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>like what you think of as an investigative reporter. And

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<v Speaker 2>our conversations were great. And as soon as he came

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<v Speaker 2>in the office to be interviewed or just to chat

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<v Speaker 2>with and meet my the two co founders of our company,

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<v Speaker 2>who are both male, it was like I wasn't in

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<v Speaker 2>the room and he completely walked you know, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>ignored sort of what that I was there. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I hired him anyway, feeling like okay, well'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I tell you like he would try and

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<v Speaker 2>bully me by get around me and going to the men,

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<v Speaker 2>going to the co founders who have no wh who

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<v Speaker 2>don't oversee the editorial content. You know. I was his

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<v Speaker 2>boss and he would literally go around me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, and this is the first time I will

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<v Speaker 2>learn this lesson. I'm gonna try and make it be

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<v Speaker 2>the last. That's That's one thing I thought of from

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<v Speaker 2>your story. Another thing is that I can be a bully.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in my I was that kid like who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you grow up kind of being tough and then unintentionally

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I know, I was flippant when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, maybe they're just an asshole. Like I've definitely

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<v Speaker 2>had friends in my life who have been like Mandy,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be a little too much. Sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 2>be a little too you know, a little too opinionated,

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<v Speaker 2>a little too judgy. And I did a lot. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot, a lot, a lot of work, and

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<v Speaker 2>I still have work to do on managing and like

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<v Speaker 2>finding where that comes from and doing better and luckily

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<v Speaker 2>have saved those friendships because you know what's at stakes.

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<v Speaker 2>People will only put up with that for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>You can only make someone feel bad about themselves, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether intentional or not, for so long. And I like

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<v Speaker 2>to say I'm a bully, and bully is such a

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<v Speaker 2>I hate saying that. I hate. I like to say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a judgy weggie, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I don't. I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a bully, but I mean recovering and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>recovering pushover. And like you wouldn't think, like running a company,

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<v Speaker 1>that you could be a pushover. Oh it's quite possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, no, it's good though, take knowledge, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how you can show up better in this

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<v Speaker 1>world and how you're working on. So it's not about perfection.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I was just like, oh, Tiffany go,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also good to have because honestly, like you,

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<v Speaker 1>friends had to tell me like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And I was like, babe, They're like, girl, no,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you let people talk to you like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're paying them too?

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<v Speaker 1>What not anymore? Bubbo? So yeah, so hey, tell my

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<v Speaker 1>bully friends you already outside the club now, Boo, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a watch.

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<v Speaker 2>If she hasn't dismissed you yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's gone, Ah, that was a great show. I hope

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we inspired, I hope we talked.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we dide you last It was the best

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<v Speaker 2>show ever. Everyone was inspired. They all said it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I got millions of tweets about it, brillion.

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<v Speaker 1>The fake news will tell you nobody listen. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>a lie. It's all a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>At least a million point five people listen to this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no facts to support it, but uh, just

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<v Speaker 2>take my hand a smile.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh,