WEBVTT - Election Night Live with Vice President Kamala Harris 

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<v Speaker 1>Native Landpod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Reason Choice Media. Nobody knows the troubles I've seen on.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Home to the Native.

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<v Speaker 3>The most difficult chapter that I wrote in the book

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<v Speaker 3>was about election Night. It was the most difficult, and

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<v Speaker 3>basically I will tell you that in writing that chapter,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the first time my husband, Doug and I

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<v Speaker 3>had ever talked about election night. That's how traumatic that

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<v Speaker 3>night had been for so many of us, and.

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<v Speaker 2>In writing the.

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<v Speaker 3>Book, I really reflected on so much of that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>That night, of course led to the next day when

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Howard University the night before thinking it

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be a victory speech, but the following day,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, knowing that it wouldn't be, and on my

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<v Speaker 3>way to Howard the day after the election, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to reconcile in my head that to your point, Angela,

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of every rally during those one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seven days, I would say, when we fight and

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<v Speaker 3>the people right, and that was our call and response.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had to reconcile that with the outcome of

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<v Speaker 3>the election, because it wasn't as trivial as will you

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<v Speaker 3>win some you lose? Some that's not what this was.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what this is. And it was actually on

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<v Speaker 3>my way.

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<v Speaker 2>To Howard that I decided to write.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the speech what I do believe. And this directly

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<v Speaker 3>answers your question. Sometimes the fight takes a while. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>the fight takes a while. That doesn't mean that we

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<v Speaker 3>give up. It means that we are committed to knowing

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<v Speaker 3>what we stand for and therefore what we fight for.

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<v Speaker 3>It means knowing on a night like tonight, where we

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate these great victories, that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Can never allow one moment, one individual.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy in the White House or people around him,

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<v Speaker 3>or any one election defeat our spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Our spirit is not defeated, It cannot be defeated.

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<v Speaker 3>The moment that that happens is the moment they truly win.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of the reason I wrote the.

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<v Speaker 3>Book is to hopefully remind us of the feeling that

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<v Speaker 3>so many had during those one hundred and seven days,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the enthusiasm, the energy, the optimism, the sense

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<v Speaker 3>of possibility. Dare I say, the joy that we experience

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<v Speaker 3>those days, But to remind us all that that's in us.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't give that it was in you. It's in us.

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<v Speaker 2>That light is in each of us.

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<v Speaker 3>And we cannot allow a moment like this to extinguish

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<v Speaker 3>that light or dampen that light. We must know it

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<v Speaker 3>is in us, and it's in each of us and

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<v Speaker 3>in each other, and especially in moments of darkness like

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<v Speaker 3>this moment, that light is particularly important. So part of

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<v Speaker 3>the reason I wrote the book is to remind us

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<v Speaker 3>of that. And then a nightlight tonight where we can

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate these elections. Well, I hope reinforce the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we got a big fight in front of us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fighting for.

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<v Speaker 3>Something, and this is not a moment to be passive

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<v Speaker 3>or to say, you know, wake me up when it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>We have too much to do. We have too much

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we do have too much to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>That one of the things that I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>is how you felt the next day to get.

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<v Speaker 3>To that, you know, hold hold on, let me look

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<v Speaker 3>let me, you know, I actually, let me just let me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there are other people here that may want

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<v Speaker 3>to get up, and so let me just let me

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<v Speaker 3>and I look. I that I get that I would

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<v Speaker 3>not exist if it weren't people who were active in

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<v Speaker 3>protesting injustice. So I understand that I actually write about

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<v Speaker 3>the issue of what has been happening in Gaza in

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<v Speaker 3>my book, and I will tell you a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>what this process has been from has been about reflection.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we should.

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<v Speaker 3>Have done more as an administration. We should have done more.

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<v Speaker 3>We should have spoken publicly about our criticism of the

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<v Speaker 3>way that Netagnahu and his government were executing this war.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have.

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<v Speaker 3>We should have used We had more levers in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of leverage that we did not use, and I write

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<v Speaker 3>about this.

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<v Speaker 2>In the book.

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<v Speaker 3>I I look at this moment and I am happy

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<v Speaker 3>that there is a ceasefire. We will see how long

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<v Speaker 3>it lasts that the hostages have been returned. But let's

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<v Speaker 3>be very clear that that inhuman nature of what has

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<v Speaker 3>happened to the Palestinian people in Gaza, the innocent civilians,

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<v Speaker 3>the extent of hunger, famine, suffering, death is something that

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<v Speaker 3>we must acknowledge. And I recognize that I write about

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<v Speaker 3>in the book. I gave a speech five months into

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<v Speaker 3>the war at the foot of the Edmund Pettis Bridge

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<v Speaker 3>on bloody Sunday, and I spoke publicly the highest official

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<v Speaker 3>in the country about the starvation that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Happening in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I also write in the book about how

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<v Speaker 3>there were plenty of folks in the White House that

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<v Speaker 3>were not happy about me speaking out that way, but

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<v Speaker 3>I did so I understand the feeling and the emotion

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<v Speaker 3>behind the folks who have spoken out tonight. We have

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<v Speaker 3>work to do, we need to ensure and I also

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<v Speaker 3>have noticed how this administration not only gave a blank

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<v Speaker 3>check to night now Who for the first nine months,

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<v Speaker 3>but also have shown no commitment to the day after

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the security of the people of that region,

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<v Speaker 3>but in particular the need for governance of Gaza, rebuilding

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<v Speaker 3>of Gaza, not no changing of the territorial lines. There

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<v Speaker 3>is work to be done, and I appreciate the emotion

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<v Speaker 3>and the sentiment behind the people who have spoken up tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>And please read the book if you want to have

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<v Speaker 3>some sense of how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I very much I've always appreciated, appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>about you is your deep conviction, deep conviction.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's unfortunate about this is this is a deep

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstanding of who I know you to be.

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<v Speaker 2>You've always been.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone that has had difficult conversations, have welcomed conflicting views,

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<v Speaker 1>different views than your own to the table, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think what's astonishing about this particular moment is you just

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<v Speaker 1>showed alignment right at some times. At some point, protests

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<v Speaker 1>also has to be strategic. We have to be If

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<v Speaker 1>we're aligned, there's nothing to protest, so we can have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation after Yep, yep, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Love her absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to talk about the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighth day. Yeah, because we were at Howard as you

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<v Speaker 1>know that the night of Breakfast Club and Native Lampire

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<v Speaker 1>was outside. We were ready. You couldn't have told me

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<v Speaker 1>this was gonna any different. I was in shock, as

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were. I want to know what's the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you said to yourself when you woke up

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<v Speaker 1>on the one hundred day, the day after the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing I said from the moment I learned

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<v Speaker 3>about the outcome of the election, and I could not

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<v Speaker 3>stop saying it or thinking it is my god.

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<v Speaker 2>How I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not had a feeling remotely similar since my

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<v Speaker 3>mother died. I was grieving for the American people because

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<v Speaker 3>I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>What was going to happen, and you told us, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what was going to happen. I knew what

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<v Speaker 2>was going to happen, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very It wasn't for me. It wasn't about again,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't about a game. It wasn't about you got

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<v Speaker 3>to win this thing. It was literally about what was

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<v Speaker 3>at stake for our country.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look at what has happened. Everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we predicted everything except the one thing I

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<v Speaker 3>did not predict was the capitulation.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not predict that.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not predict how from universities to media organization's

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<v Speaker 3>newspapers to I mean, just go on and on and

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<v Speaker 3>on titans of industry would.

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<v Speaker 2>Bend the knee.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was it was very difficult, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>clear when you know, we talked about it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not I'm not into saying I told you so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say that, but I said it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you did tell us so, you did tell us so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying it. There's nothing to gloat about.

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<v Speaker 1>Like as we sit on this stage tonight, election night,

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<v Speaker 1>we are on the thirty fifth day of a government shutdown.

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<v Speaker 1>People are fighting to make sure they can eat. They're

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<v Speaker 1>having to choose between hunger or healthcare.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and let's Let's also be clear that first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>the man is allowing for babies to starve in America,

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<v Speaker 3>to starve in America, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It costs eight billion dollars. It costs eight billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>to fun Snap, which feeds hungry children, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>just it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, And as you were just saying, we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a criminal in the White House who's starving children

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<v Speaker 1>in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're planning your time round.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is sitting in the White House right now, starving

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<v Speaker 3>children in our country while building a gilded ballroom at

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<v Speaker 3>the White House for his rich friends, giving twenty billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars to a foreign country, while depriving children in this

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<v Speaker 3>country and seniors and and.

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<v Speaker 2>People who deserve.

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<v Speaker 3>To be seen and protected, depriving them of the basic

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<v Speaker 3>necessity of food.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it's happening. And what's happening is that they're even.

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<v Speaker 3>Refusing to reimburse states that are willing to take it

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<v Speaker 3>on themselves. The court has said that they must give

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<v Speaker 3>those Snap benefits, and they're refusing to do it right

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<v Speaker 3>here in America.

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<v Speaker 2>That the level of callousness.

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<v Speaker 3>And cruelty, and let us talk about corruption coming from

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<v Speaker 3>this administration is extraordinary, extraordinary. But you know, I think Angela,

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<v Speaker 3>it's important. Part of what I think is important about

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<v Speaker 3>this moment is to remember, you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people have been very deeply concerned about obviously what is

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<v Speaker 3>happening in our country and to our country.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Important as we remember those one hundred and seven days

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<v Speaker 3>and the election itself. One third of the electorate voted

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<v Speaker 3>for him, one third voted for us, and one third

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<v Speaker 3>did not vote. Two thirds did not vote for this.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the discussion that is happening about the future,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, of the Democratic Party and the future of

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<v Speaker 3>our democracy, I would urge us to really put some

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<v Speaker 3>weight and thought and time into the question why did

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<v Speaker 3>that one third did not vote?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did they not.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote, and really have the difficult conversations that we need

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<v Speaker 3>to have. You know, one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 3>talk about in the book, and I do believe. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that when we think about that one third

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<v Speaker 3>that voted for him, I do believe that there is

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<v Speaker 3>a decent number of them who voted for him voted

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<v Speaker 3>for him on one issue which they believed him on,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that he would bring down prices on day

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<v Speaker 3>one that was their issue. It is the issue for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of Americans, the majority of Americans, and he

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<v Speaker 3>lied to them. Obviously, inflation is up, unemployment.

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<v Speaker 2>Is up, the cost of food is up.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was a big issue for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people who voted then and are voting now, and it

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<v Speaker 3>has to be one of our number one priorities. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I made it a priority of mine during

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred and seven days. From everything for what

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to do to take on price gouging, taking

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<v Speaker 3>on corporate landlords, or buying up all this property and

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<v Speaker 3>jacking up rents. What we need to do around not

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<v Speaker 3>only affordable housing, but affordable child care, paid leave.

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<v Speaker 2>What we need to do around having medicare.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of my policy was cover home health care, especially

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<v Speaker 3>for people in the Sandwich generation who are raising children

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<v Speaker 3>and taking care of their elderly relatives.

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<v Speaker 5>That's so.

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<v Speaker 3>But when we think about what happened in the election

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that I hope is really not.

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<v Speaker 2>About just re litigating the election, but what did we

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<v Speaker 2>learn in terms of going forward?

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<v Speaker 3>A big part of it is that folks felt disconnected

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<v Speaker 3>and also distrustful of the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the deep work that we have to do

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>As a country is really deal with the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not new that people have lacked have

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<v Speaker 3>distrusted government and systems. That is not a new phenomena.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely grew during the pandemic when basic necessities and

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<v Speaker 3>systems failed people.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Also am seeing in our country right now is a

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<v Speaker 3>heightened level of distrust between and among the American people.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I speak of that, I don't mean simply

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<v Speaker 3>can I trust my neighbor that I don't I can

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<v Speaker 3>leave my door unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's much deeper than that.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a can I trust that my fellow American,

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<v Speaker 3>my neighbor is not a threat to my very existence?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and that we have some work to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know a lot of people ask me what can

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<v Speaker 3>I do? And first of all, how about No King's

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<v Speaker 3>Day two point zero? Right? The millions of people that

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<v Speaker 3>took to the streets, it was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there is that.

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<v Speaker 3>There is the work that is happening around these elections

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<v Speaker 3>that we just talked about. There is the work that

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<v Speaker 3>people are doing about getting more engaged and supporting nonprofits,

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<v Speaker 3>and in particular now when we are looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>shutdown and so many people that are even more in

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<v Speaker 3>need than they were before. There are many ways that

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<v Speaker 3>we can do this that really, I think highlights the

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<v Speaker 3>power of the individual to work on all of these

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<v Speaker 3>issues in a way that we can collectively make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've got some work to do that is about

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally about trust and among us as people as well

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<v Speaker 3>as in our systems.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about the future of the Democratic Party, and

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<v Speaker 1>to me, recently the divide grew from a fracture to

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<v Speaker 1>a major rift around the Charlie Kirk resolution in the

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives. I remember seeing Jasmine Crockett go on

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<v Speaker 1>air and talk about there were only four just a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of white Democrats who voted no on that resolution,

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<v Speaker 1>growing not just a generational divide or an economic divide,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a racial divide. How do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>can be healed in this moment right now we're on

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<v Speaker 1>a high from these election results tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>How can it be healed? We have to honest conversations

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<v Speaker 2>the listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the part of what I refer to is

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<v Speaker 3>the first So we came in office the Biden Harris

0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.280
<v Speaker 3>administration during the height of the pandemic, so there was

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<v Speaker 3>not a lot of interaction personal interaction with folks. And

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<v Speaker 3>the first person that I hosted at the Vice President's

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<v Speaker 3>residence as world leader, and I, during my course of

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.760
<v Speaker 3>vice presidency met with over one hundred and fifty world leaders, presidents,

0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 3>prime minister's, chancellors, and kings. The first person that I

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 3>hosted was then Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>part of what I talk about is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>press sometimes really does a number on women leaders in.

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<v Speaker 2>A variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>She was in spite of how she had been portrayed

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<v Speaker 3>by some She was extremely warm, with a sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got on quite well.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was toward the end of her leadership. She'd

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<v Speaker 3>probably been one of the putative leaders of Europe for

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years. And she asked me, she leaned over the

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<v Speaker 3>table and she said, what's going on in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States around the Well, so this was in twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>but to your point, her point was about voting and

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<v Speaker 3>voting rights and the attack on voting rights. And we

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<v Speaker 3>had this whole conversation and I said to her, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my mother was a scientist, so my analogies

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<v Speaker 3>are either like biology or cooking.

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I love to cook.

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<v Speaker 3>But so what I said to her is this, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is the way I would answer your point. You know,

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 3>in the human body, we have things that can attack us.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we are healthy enough, God willing, we have

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<v Speaker 3>an immune system that will suppress it. But from time

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<v Speaker 3>to time, something will cause those things to flare up.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I said to is, in America, racism, xenophobia, homophobia,

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.200
<v Speaker 3>anti Semitism, islamophobia, you name it.

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<v Speaker 2>These things have always existed in our country, and there

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:54.879
<v Speaker 2>have been.

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<v Speaker 3>Moments where we suppressed it, and there are moments that

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<v Speaker 3>it has flared up because it has always been here.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's part of what I think is required in

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<v Speaker 3>these conversations, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is some honesty about it. This did not just start

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<v Speaker 2>in this election cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it does not help, of course, when

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<v Speaker 3>there are powerful forces that are trying to erase America's

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<v Speaker 3>history and teach our children contrary to what our history

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<v Speaker 3>actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>I applaud all the teachers who are here. I applaud

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who lives on a school board working for the

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<v Speaker 3>school district. Money you get paid enough His teachers and educators.

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<v Speaker 2>You do God's work, but you know this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is but look at what's happening in terms of the dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>There is an overt agenda to make a stop talking

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<v Speaker 3>about these issues, much less those who are pushing hate

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 3>and racism and xenophobia.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have those difficult conversations and we have to speak out

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 3>where we see it. And I also believe no one

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 3>should be made to fight alone. So whenever and wherever

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 3>we're saying it, let's speak out.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of women in power, there's one in particular who

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<v Speaker 1>is known for two famous words right now, I dissent

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<v Speaker 1>and you had a lot to do with her historic

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<v Speaker 1>placement on the Supreme Court of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That is Katanji Brown Jackson. Justice Katanji Brown Jackson. Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me not get too familiar.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, justin, Madam, Justine, madam, just And what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to bring to this audience for just a moment

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<v Speaker 1>is your massive portfolio that you were responsible for as

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<v Speaker 1>the Vice President of the United States. But Justice Katanji

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Brown Jackson is certainly one of them. Talk about how

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>she is fueling hope. Right now, I.

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Have nothing but profound praise.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when I talked with her during the process

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<v Speaker 3>and interviewed her, one of the things among many that

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<v Speaker 3>I was just incredibly excited and about her talent and

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 3>her skill and her gift is she has that extraordinary

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>ability to deconstruct something that feels and often is complicated

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 3>and complex and nuanced and just break it down.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 2>And she is so smart.

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 3>And well informed and obviously extraordinary education and a student,

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 3>and that she when she speaks, it is with a

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 3>level of authority, strength and gravitas that history will read

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 3>her words and understand how we all hoped to articulate

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:44.919
<v Speaker 3>this moment. And I encourage everyone when you get a

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 3>chance to just pull anyone of her descents. She just

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 3>breaks it down, and she does it in a way

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 3>that you know, I pray for her because I will

0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 3>tell you, like so many here, whether in our personal

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 3>or professional lives, this is a difficult time to speak

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<v Speaker 3>up when, in particular, you are in an environment that

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 3>you know is not welcoming of a difficult conversation, much

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 3>less an environment that is at the very least in

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 3>disagreement with you. And she does it in an environment

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 3>that is at least that and an environment where there

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 3>is also an overt attack on the rule of law

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 3>and an attempt to basically dismantle our constitution and the

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 3>principles behind it. And she's standing firm and she's standing

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 3>up for it. But I will also say this on

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 3>the point about the disagreement piece.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to something and this person was just

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, Yes, the country has divided. The country is divided. Oh,

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 3>I know, I was, I was, it was. It was, okay,

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 3>it was. I was watching local news after the Dodgers game.

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Congratulations by the way, for my husband. I'm a Giants fan.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 2>We have a divided household.

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 3>But in any event, one of the sportscasters was talking

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 3>about the teams coming gether.

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm making this far too long, but I kept talking

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>about we're in a divided country.

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing I would say about that. I

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 3>think that we should all challenge ourselves. Are we are

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>we forming an opinion based on certain assumptions, and always

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 3>ask ourselves what are the assumptions that are the basis

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>of our opinion. For example, I think it is a

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 3>mistake to assume that people who voted differently than us.

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a mistake to assume that we are working with

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 3>the same information, right, and and and and and if

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 3>we do assume that it is, it's it is perhaps

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 3>easy then for us to decide, well, we have a

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 3>different set of morals and values, then to perhaps first

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 3>ask are we working with the same information? And I

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>say information, because fact is fact two plus two us four.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>So but in the conversations, the difficult conversations that need

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 3>to happen, I think we've got to find room in

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>these conversations to start with figuring out what are the

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 3>underlying bits of information or fact that the other person

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 3>is working with, and to figure out how there is

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 3>room to share that information about the facts as we

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>believe them to be, to enter the conversation.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But we have some work to do.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 3>But the fact of in particular miss and disinformation in

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>our country right now is profound, and I know it

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>because I experienced it firsthand as a candidate for President

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 3>of the United States as the Democratic nominee. I will

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 3>tell you that the issue of miss and disinformation is

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>not new in the history of our species.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not.

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, there was a time though, that miss and

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 3>disinformation to be widespread was because it would be, for example,

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 3>a nation state an actor who had that kind of

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 3>ability to spread miss and disinformation to large populations of

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 3>people as a way to sway them in one direction

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 3>or another, to so mistrust or distrust. For example, I

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 3>was the United States Senator and I served on the

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Senate Intelligence Committee when we investigated Russia's interference in the

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen election, and we then declassified a big part

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 3>of our findings to make it accessible in public.

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>And we found, of course that Russia had in fact.

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Interfered in that election with miss and disinformation, including targeting

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 3>specific populations, including black voters, with the understanding and belief

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>that based on a lived experience that there would.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Be a higher level of distrust and systems.

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And so when you look at the fact of targeted

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 3>miss and disinformation, it's not new. And when you then

0:30:55.680 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 3>consider the role of social media, it's profound because whereas

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>before to disseminate large amounts would require a nation state

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 3>who have the resources, now with technology the entry point

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>is much lower. So the benefit of social media and

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 3>technology is that it has, as we like to talk about,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>democratized people's voices. Now, anyone with something important to say

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 3>arguably or well informed can.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Reach a lot of people.

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>But it also has meant that the entry point to

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 3>getting into the system to disseminate large amounts of information,

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 3>even when it is inaccurate and intentionally so, is much easier.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 3>And so when we talk about the work that we

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 3>need to do, part of it is recognizing that and

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 3>figuring out how each of us in our lives much

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 3>less people in a position of authority with platforms can

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 3>debunk missing disinformation so that we're all working again from

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the same facts, and then we can form our opinions

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 3>and disagree based on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you bringing up your time in the United

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>States Senate in part because you were our fiercest advocate

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>in many a hearing room. But also there's some work

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that you did behind the scenes that I don't know

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>if people know as much, including your work around the

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. To me, that is

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>where I really got to see your work ethic. I

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>remember we had a call and you talked about calling

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>all of the all of your colleagues to get them

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to sign onto the bill. And now we're in an

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>environment where those calls can't be made.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>As easily.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are people who aren't willing to pick

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>up the phone, aren't willing to cross party lines even

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation. So we talked about the fracture

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>within the Democratic Party. We talked about the mistrust even

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>neighbored a neighbor. What are some things that folks can

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>do when they leave tonight to start to rebuild that trust,

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to start to pick up the phone and see if

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a way to negotiate, not with terrorists, but with

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>folks who might be of goodwill.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna leave that alone.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 3>An I might work for the moment, but then Fox

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 3>News will just have it all over the place.

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>They do that anyway.

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris is saying, let's, you know, do something with terrorists. Lord,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I believe in the power of the people, and I

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>believe in the power of individuals, and look it takes. Look,

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I know we're all tired of having conversations about the obvious.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>The governor is here. By the way, did we come

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a stand up?

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Bob Santa set up Bob Bob ferguson stand up? Can

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 3>I work together.

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Over the years?

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for being here, Bob, Both you and the general,

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>thank you. So so I know that there is a

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 3>certain level of fatigue about just why do I have

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 3>to talk about what is obvious to me? But it's

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 3>also about people. This this environment is making a lot

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 3>of people, whether we agree with them completely or not, feel.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Really on edge.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've been doing this book tour for a

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 3>little bit time now, and the number of people that

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 3>are just feeling we're on edge, like what's gonna happen next?

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 3>I often have been saying, because I believe it true

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>that things make it worse before they get better, folks.

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>And I believe that sadly because I've seen it.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I've said it one night and then the next night

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>they indict Tis James that being said, we cannot afford

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 3>to normalize what is happening. We cannot, We cannot, And

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 3>that means take the minute that you need to take

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.959
<v Speaker 3>to breathe, but then get back out there and have

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>the conversations.

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 2>With your neighbor, with your coworker, and just.

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Find those moments to just it doesn't have to be

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 3>a whole deep debate, but just you know, part.

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Of it is just checking in.

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Because this environment is making people feel on edge, and

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 3>therefore feel alone, and it's very it's empowering to feel alone,

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:08.479
<v Speaker 3>to feel that as though you don't have community. And

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>that's the power of each of us to create community.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, here, I'm gonna do something that's gonna feel corny,

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 3>but just if you don't know the person sitting next

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>to you, say how you doing.

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Right? Like that?

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 2>That was very black church of you, by the way,

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 2>turn your neighbor, but right.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 3>But church is an example, one example of how we

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>create community. How we just find a way to engage

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 3>with someone just because we're sitting next to them. And

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I think that's part of what we've got to do

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 3>right now. It seems so simple, but that will be

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 3>part of how we get through this in a way

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 3>that is not only about our sanity but is also healing.

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Who cares about truth when allows more than saying it.

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>We started at the shutdown, which is another place where

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>we have a golf. Now we're starting to see disagreement,

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I think even more even within parties. The Republicans that

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>are like, we're not for this shutting down of snap

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're Democrats saying, we don't know if this is

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the right thing to do, if this is the right approach.

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>What are you advising elected officials to do in this moment?

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the path forward?

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've talked to a number of them and they've

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 3>called me a well, I think we have to fight. Look,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 3>let me, this is not a time like I'm done

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 3>with the conversation lamenting over the fact that they're cheating.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're cheating. What are we gonna do?

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna fight fire with fire as well, we're gonna do.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna fight fire with fire.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what we're gonna do. We just did it. I'm

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>waiting the poles.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh look, the posts will have just closed here and

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:44.439
<v Speaker 3>in California Prop fifty right, which is gonna pass. We

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>have to fight fire with fire. There they are cheating

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 3>and we cannot, we cannot let them just keep taking

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 3>our lunch.

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>We gotta punch back. We gotta punch back.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 3>We do we do.

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>So there is Prop fifty in California. There are other

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>states with democratic governors that can move forward and take

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a similar approach. We saw this in response to Texas

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>racist jerrymandering scheme. And of course this is the sixtieth

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the voting rise act. That's also something else

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>that was in your portfolio as VP.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 3>And look we have we well we all love each

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>other and thank you, thank you, I mean look again.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 3>So part of this moment requires us to understand what

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:59.439
<v Speaker 3>is happening now did not just happen overnight.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>It did not just happen overnight.

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 3>We have What we are witnessing right now is something

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 3>that has been feeling chaotic. It has been feeling chaotic,

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 3>but what we are in fact experiencing is a high

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 3>velocity event that is about the swift implementation of a

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 3>plan that has been decades in the making. And I

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 3>would suggest that part of what we cannot do, as

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Democrats and those who are aligned is allow ourselves to

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 3>think this is only about the guy who's in the

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Oval office, because that's a mistake. That's a mistake, yes,

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>that and there is a whole apparatus around him that

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 3>has facilitated this very moment when he would arrive. There

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 3>is the Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation Project twenty twenty

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:12.240
<v Speaker 3>five didn't just fall.

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Out of the sky.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 3>The attacks on the Department of Education have been decades

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>in the making, and now they want to take head

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 3>start and school lunches from children. This is an agenda

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 3>that has been in play for decades and now they

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 3>are implementing. They're not just coming up with the ideas.

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 3>It's full implementation. And you know, part of the way

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I look at it is if you just think about

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>how we got to this moment in terms of the individual,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 3>the way I kind of think about it is, imagine

0:41:55.200 --> 0:42:03.479
<v Speaker 3>the amalgamation of the celebrity of Ronald Rake with the

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 3>base with the base level of I don't even want

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 3>to call it dialogue, but discourse of.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Newt Caningridge with the.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Kind of nationalism and and and and of of of

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Pat Buchanan. This is what we have, right So just

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>understand that this is not going to just go away

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 3>when the guy is turned out, if he ever leaves.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's something we do need to pay attention to, Okay.

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 3>But this is something that we have we have to

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 3>understand with to your point, the jerry mandering has been

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 3>going on for years and years and years. I mean

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 3>remember that famous case in North Carolina where there was

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 3>a purposeful the court said it attempt not even just

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 3>attempt to excise black voters.

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.399
<v Speaker 2>So we have to also.

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Think about not only the short term goal, but the

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 3>long term goal of leapfrogging over this. I think part

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 3>of it includes and this is why I again applaud

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 3>now mayor elect Mom Donnie, we have to also, but

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 3>let me let me say why we also have to.

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean this to exclude anybody, but really

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 3>focus on gen Z and hear them when they talk

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>about their needs and what they're not getting, and engage

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 3>in a very intentional way their participation. Do you know

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 3>gen Z is a larger population demographically than boomers. Gen

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Z is from about age thirteen to about age twenty.

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And you think about.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 3>This population as a specific population of people. They've only

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 3>known the climate crisis, They went through very significant periods

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 3>of their education without the structure around that and socialization.

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 3>It is predicted that gen Z will have between ten

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 3>and twelve jobs in their lifetime. Yeah, older generations could

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 3>basically come out of high school or college and the

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 3>job they had is where they retired. If you're looking

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 3>at people who are right now college age and in

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 3>college or in some form of education at that age,

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 3>they are well aware that what they are studying now

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 3>may not actually lead to an employable job and I

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 3>think of gen Z in the I think that we

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 3>should think of gen Z the way we once thought

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 3>of another general of people that we then decided we

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 3>would invest in, and that is that group of folks

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 3>that we call the Greatest Generation. Now obviously for different reasons,

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 3>they fought in World War Two, and we as a

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 3>community of people as a country, said we're going to

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 3>invest in them because investing in the GI bill, investing

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 3>in their ability to buy homes. Although we can talk

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>about the racial discrimination then, but we decided it was

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 3>worth our investment for the sake of the future of

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 3>our country. I think similarly, as we are thinking about

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 3>how we are building toward the future, we should be

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 3>thinking about a variety of things, including that specific generation

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 3>and how an investment in them will actually benefit us all,

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 3>including their political participation. And that requires first of all,

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 3>that we listen to them and what they are telling

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>us about how they are thinking about our government, our country,

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 3>and our future.

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>There's one area that was really important to gen Z,

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and I know their parents too, that you all had

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous record around in the Biden Harris administration, and

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that's around student loan debt.

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Forgiveness, So I want to make sure.

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.720
<v Speaker 1>We acknowledge the history in case they try to rewrite

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that as well.

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Well that and also, you know, I think we part

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>of the focus that I had was also in what

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 3>we need to do to invest in education after high school,

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and that we really ought to think about.

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Our language in that regard because we.

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Have really attributed we've we've really attributed value in a

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 3>way that we have diminished the value we have diminished.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>We have diminished the.

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Value of education after high school if it is not

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 3>college education.

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's a mistake and.

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Part of my plan, and I don't want to talk

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 3>about it for you know, oh too bad it didn't happen,

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 3>But more like this is what I think how we

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 3>should be thinking going forward. Was as president, and I says,

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I would have been in charge of well, we now

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 3>have seen what this guy has done. But the largest,

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 3>one of the largest workforces in America is the federal government.

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 3>And part of my plan was to re categorize the

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 3>jobs not just around the degree that is required, but

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 3>the skill that is required. And it was my intention

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 3>to then challenge the private sector to do the same

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 3>because increasingly the jobs that are going to lead to

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 3>our productivity. Really, we ought to think about them in

0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 3>terms of the skill so that we can also communicate

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 3>to an incoming workforce, is what do you need to learn?

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 3>And oftentimes it may be a two year education that

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>earns you the certificate to have the skill to do

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.280
<v Speaker 3>the job that pays really well, as opposed to requiring

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 3>someone to go through a four year process, which and

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe graduating four years if not five, while not working

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 3>and owing student loans at the end of it all.

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And so part of.

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, there are solutions in him, I mean one

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 3>of the other things that I think we need to do.

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 3>So okay, everyone just get ready for this. I really

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 3>believe we ought to lower the voting age to sixteen.

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 2>What about are life?

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I know some people need to really sit with that,

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 3>and I get it.

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Sit with it for a moment, But.

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, if we want to take on some

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 3>of the most intractable problems, you know, some of us

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 3>of a certain age we are going to benefit from

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the way things have always been. But anybody who is

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 3>sixteen right now, they are so aware of how this

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 3>is not working out for them, and think about the

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 3>influence they would have if they had an ability if

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<v Speaker 3>people who are running for office knew they had to

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<v Speaker 3>respond to the needs of someone who is sixteen. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's a complicated issue for some of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, but I think we should give it

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<v Speaker 3>some consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of you run in a campaign

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<v Speaker 1>like if you can drive, you can vote.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So okay, So, speaking of going to looking towards

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<v Speaker 1>the future, you spoke in the book about systems failing,

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<v Speaker 1>talked earlier today even about the capitulation and not expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to see it in such a widespread manner. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know from you if this is fixable, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you were giving us a closing argument, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Kamala hairs for the people. Is this democracy worth

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<v Speaker 1>saving and fighting for?

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<v Speaker 2>Andy? But of course of course it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing, I again, going back to the language.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we need to do a better job of

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<v Speaker 3>defining what we mean by democracy. You know, and I,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, would we agree that a functional and working democracy,

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<v Speaker 3>In a functional and working democracy, the government needs the.

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<v Speaker 2>Needs of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And are we doing that? No? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Listen, at the end of this all, there

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be a whole lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, for all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the tech associated people here, you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about disruption, but disruption is not destruction, and they are

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<v Speaker 3>destroying a lot. And so at the end of it all,

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<v Speaker 3>there's going to be work that must be done. And

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<v Speaker 3>I would suggest that the work that needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>done is not necessarily about rebuilding, because there were things

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<v Speaker 3>that really were not working even before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe that we cannot approach.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're going to need to do going forward with

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<v Speaker 3>a sense of nostalgia about things the way they were.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to really have to again invite those conversations,

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<v Speaker 3>and at the crux of the conversation has to be

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<v Speaker 3>is the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Responding to the needs of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's about efficiency, That's about effectiveness. It's about insurance

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<v Speaker 3>that the voices of the people are actually present in

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<v Speaker 3>the room where the decisions are being made. It is

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<v Speaker 3>about whether the government is focused not just on process

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<v Speaker 3>but actually progress.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about whether we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are thinking not only in the immediate term, but thinking five,

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<v Speaker 3>ten and twenty years out about what we are creating,

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<v Speaker 3>what we are investing in, what we are nurturing. In

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<v Speaker 3>between everything else that we have to do. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>this should be an active conversation among us, because the

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<v Speaker 3>day will quickly come.

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<v Speaker 2>And arguably is here to start.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, also in the midst of our fight, really articulating

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<v Speaker 3>what we need. We need a government that promises the

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<v Speaker 3>people affordable childcare.

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<v Speaker 2>We need paid family leave.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to have a system where people do not

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<v Speaker 3>have to leave their source of income or the job

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<v Speaker 3>they love because they can't afford to take care of

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<v Speaker 3>a sick family member. We need to have a government

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<v Speaker 3>that understands basic needs like housing should be within the

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<v Speaker 3>affordable reach of people and working people. But we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to give up on our Look, this is our country,

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<v Speaker 3>this is our country.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not theirs. It's ours, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the first step toward fighting for our

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<v Speaker 3>democracy is believing, truly believing, believing and knowing that the

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<v Speaker 3>power is with the people.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where it starts.

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<v Speaker 3>And as long as we don't give up our power,

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<v Speaker 3>I say, don't let anyone take your power from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't let anyone take your power.

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<v Speaker 1>From you, and you never have, you never have. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for embodying power. Thank you for coming to my

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<v Speaker 1>hometown to see out of Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all.

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<v Speaker 5>All, Thank you all, thank you for reminding us that

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<v Speaker 5>when we fight, we win.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if the battle is a little bit longer than

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<v Speaker 1>we expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's always gonna be. It's gonna take everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes a while, but we don't give up, and

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<v Speaker 3>we see change, we see progress again. Let's go home

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<v Speaker 3>tonight and see what has happened in these elections around

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<v Speaker 3>the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Let that fortify us. The battle is worth fighting. It's

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<v Speaker 2>worth fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>And we cannot give up, and we cannot be dispirited.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have to maintain our joy, We maintain our light,

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<v Speaker 3>we maintain a sense of community.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us is in this alone.

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<v Speaker 3>We are all in this together, and that is our strength,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is our purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we fight, we will there we go.

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