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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your

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Speaker 1: hands through shooter and it's Wednesday, which means I are

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Speaker 1: very naughty and not so nice. Friend Donnie meach and

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Speaker 1: joins us. Hey, Donny, the hell Wednesday Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: Wednesday. Oh, I feel great. I feel I feel the

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Speaker 2: best I've ever felt.

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Speaker 1: That you say that you're such a you're so naughty.

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Speaker 1: Just before we started to take I did mention I

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Speaker 1: might have a little bit of a cult, just a

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Speaker 1: Don't you don't worry. I'll make it through this show.

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Speaker 1: I will, I will. Okay, what time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It air tea time. Big story at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, so more chilling information about Savannah Guffrie and

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Speaker 1: her mom, Nancy. Investigations are really trying to pick peace together,

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Speaker 1: in fact, piece together this haunting timeline. And they said

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Speaker 1: that her pacemaker, the mother's pacemaker, Nancy's pacemaker, stopped sinking

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Speaker 1: with her Apple watch about two am on Sunday. Now,

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Speaker 1: this could be that it was out of range, it

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Speaker 1: could be something much much worse, but this is just terrifying.

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Speaker 1: It has been confirmed that Nancy at least the police

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Speaker 1: believe was taken against her will, possibly in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night. The case has moved on a far

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Speaker 1: from a missing person search. It's not that anymore. It's urgent,

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Speaker 1: it's frightening, it's deeply personal and time now matters more

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Speaker 1: than ever. What do you think.

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Speaker 3: There's so much going on, like as the reports out

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Speaker 3: there there was now there's been blood found and the

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do this giant press conference. So the sheriffs

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Speaker 3: came out and then they didn't say anything because honestly,

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Speaker 3: they don't know anything. But the one piece that is

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Speaker 3: interesting is they were pressed over and over again about

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Speaker 3: a ransom request. Has there been a ransom request? And

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Speaker 3: the sheriffs refuses to confirm or deny it, which we

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Speaker 3: work in the business, we know what that means. If

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Speaker 3: you're not denying it, you're basically confirming.

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Speaker 1: It's a good chance. Yes, it's the sadest.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just I can't, Oh, Savannah, I just in

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Speaker 1: Spoke to a really senior police law enforcement officer who's

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Speaker 1: been a source of mind for a long time, and

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Speaker 1: they said to me, let me read it. He just

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Speaker 1: texted me. Something is very off with this story. None

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Speaker 1: of it makes sense unless they were the world's dumbest kidnappers.

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Speaker 1: Home invaders would take the loot and kill the person.

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Speaker 1: They do not want to move a body. When you

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Speaker 1: add if this was a kidnapping, if it was an

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Speaker 1: actual kidnapping, they would have reached out to Savannah the

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Speaker 1: Guthries directly instead of all this now blowing up in

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Speaker 1: the media with the cops. Often these ransom situations we

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Speaker 1: don't know about, they do not reveal it to the public.

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Speaker 1: They talk directly. They involve the police, but they talk directly.

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Speaker 1: This is a very senior person. I've been working with

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Speaker 1: this person for a long time. They said, it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't add up. They've been looking to into the siblings,

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Speaker 1: but none of that appears to be the case. There's

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Speaker 1: doesn't it, donal who would remove a body if you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so here I am a true crime junkie, so

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Speaker 3: I watch it like crazy. I know so, but it's sad.

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Speaker 3: Truth is, most of the time in situations like this,

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Speaker 3: So this is where I don't know. This is where

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Speaker 1: There is nothing to suspect any family member at the moment. However, Donnie, statistically,

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Speaker 1: My law enforcement sources cannot get their head around, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to view them. It doesn't make

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Speaker 1: sense if there was a ransom note, then why if

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Speaker 1: We know that, Donnie, when there's a ransom it's all

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Speaker 1: if there is a ransom note, and if they were,

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Speaker 1: if they were people that broke in, why didn't they

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Speaker 1: steal anything. Nothing was missing. The only thing that was missing,

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Speaker 1: this a coincidence? Is it that she just so happens

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is a coincidence. I reported yesterday

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Speaker 1: all the hosts and the co hosts of the Today Show,

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely terrifying. We do not have any answers yet,

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Speaker 1: but the fact we know that her pace maker stop

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Speaker 1: That's when they think she was taken at two am.

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Speaker 1: Who breaks into an eighty year old's house at two

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Speaker 1: in the morning with a good intention. It's absolutely terrifying.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a pole question today. We do not

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Speaker 1: something nice now, Donnie Kim Kim looks like she's found

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Speaker 1: a little bit of happiness, maybe even a little bit

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Speaker 2: What's happened Kim, Kim, Kim got a lover? Will she win?

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Speaker 3: For her date with Lewis Hamilton is the f one driver.

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Speaker 3: He is first of all, he is a cutie. But

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Speaker 3: this is what Okay, I love Kim and I'm not

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Speaker 3: she says all these things about she's different. Now she's

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Speaker 2: It almost reeks of.

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Speaker 3: They're forgetting about me. Oh you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: like the oh, I think they're forgetting about me. I

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Speaker 2: But for why right?

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Speaker 1: Well that makes me laugh about this too, is there's

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Speaker 1: lots of stories out there that this is a really

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Speaker 1: low key private relationship. She wears that if she wanted

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Speaker 1: to keep it Lokey should wear a raincoat, should have

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Speaker 1: there is nothing low key. If you google this outfit.

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Speaker 1: It is so outrageous, it's so kid, it's Jlo. It

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Speaker 1: is just so fabulous. This is not a person that's

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Speaker 1: sources say he knows who she is, he likes who

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Speaker 1: to date Mary Poppins. That ain't Kim. Kim's a very

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Speaker 1: Ben Affleck wanted to date j Loo and change. I

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Speaker 1: know she's j Loo. That's who she is. She did

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Speaker 1: not surprise you. She didn't keep it a secret. Kim

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Speaker 1: who she is. He loves it. But anybody that's telling

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Speaker 1: Look at her. Just look at this picture. Okay, moving along,

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Speaker 1: talking about racy, racy outfits, Chapel Roan is clapping back

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Speaker 1: And I say that with absolute accuracy. It was held

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Speaker 1: should point out here, Donnay, it was the Grammys that

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Speaker 1: canceled Janet Jackson for flashing her nipple. Do they owe

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Speaker 1: So it's okay to show your nipples on CBS. That's

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Speaker 1: had covered up and on the red carpet. Donnie, yes, Surah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about these desperate fun, delicious. Where

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Speaker 3: I mean, if she would have carved, they would have

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Speaker 3: fell off, like literally she sneezed, it would have been gone.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. It just I will say this.

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Speaker 2: The Grammys, though, like most of.

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Speaker 3: The ward shows are fine, silly, crazy, The Grammys, I

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Speaker 3: feel like, are a little.

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Speaker 2: More class a little more classy.

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Speaker 3: But also that's this is a new Glare dress, which

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Speaker 3: is thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 2: It looked like she went to bed Beth and beyond.

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Speaker 2: It ripped off shower.

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Speaker 1: Car it was.

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Speaker 2: It didn't well, you know, it's like it was just

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Speaker 1: It's so cheap looking. I sometimes I look at these clothes,

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Speaker 1: I think, gosh, they paid thousands, they hide a stylist.

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Speaker 1: It just looks so cheaply. That's for me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a prude, so I don't like

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Speaker 1: the really racy stuff. But I like stuff that's well made.

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Speaker 1: I like quality clothes. You know, Jlo certainly shows a

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Speaker 1: lot of flesh, but everything she wears, including that Vasacei

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Speaker 1: dress where it all started, was topic. The fabric was

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Speaker 1: with a moment of until death. All defeat is in

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