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Speaker 1: M Hey everybody, I'm Robert Evans and this is yet

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Speaker 1: again Behind the Bastards, the podcast where we tell you

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Speaker 1: everything you don't know about the very worst people in

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Speaker 1: all of history. Now, today we are on part two

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Speaker 1: of our series on the KKK, Part part my guest

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Speaker 1: with me, as with Part one Katie and Cody the

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Speaker 1: Stuffed News. How much network of that's the one that's here.

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Speaker 1: We are. So, how you guys doing? Still still got

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Speaker 1: a cold? Still good, I'm still doing well, still happy.

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Speaker 1: It's two days after you heard our last episode, but

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Speaker 1: it's just minutes after we recorded the last one. But

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Speaker 1: in those minutes we've grabbed us a dorito or three.

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Speaker 1: There are so many derritos in here there. They are interesting,

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Speaker 1: they're delicious. I mean, how do you guys like the

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Speaker 1: tapato ones? That's spicier than I expected, Because that's spicier

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Speaker 1: than tapatio is. It's got a real kick if that's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I was hoping that was a seamless transitionless

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Speaker 1: transition to the KKK. Well, then we should keep talking

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Speaker 1: about tapatio. I was hoping for another reason to not

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Speaker 1: like the KKK. So in Part one we talked about

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Speaker 1: the Original Clan, which was a terrorist organization that started

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Speaker 1: as a bunch of drunk frat boys pretending to be

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Speaker 1: former rebel general. Finding how that works. Part two we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the rise of the KKK in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties, which was an order of magnitude larger

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Speaker 1: than it was in the eighteen sixties and a hell

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Speaker 1: of a lot weirder. This is not going to go

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Speaker 1: where you think it's going to go. This is a

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Speaker 1: weird story. Keep saying that a lot harder. It's hard

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Speaker 1: There there's no queen, Imperial Emperor. There are some king

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Speaker 1: very good, Cody, that was very witty. W We're gonna

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Speaker 1: check out for the rest of the episode. You know what,

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Speaker 1: just dial tone for the rest of it. You guys

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Speaker 1: got your dose a comedy. You want to go get

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Speaker 1: a drink. Thanks for stopping by, stopping by, all right,

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Speaker 1: here's the episode. In nineteen nineteen, a pamphlet started circulating

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Speaker 1: rearing steed. The title was the Ku Klux Klan Yesterday, Today,

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Speaker 1: and Forever. The flyer's purpose was to announce the glorious

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Speaker 1: rebirth of the KKK. It opened up by defending the

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Speaker 1: first clan, the ku Klux Klan. The Invisible Empire was

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Speaker 1: the great idea that's capitalized of American reconstruction. We say

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Speaker 1: capitalized to the white race that loomed on the horizon

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Speaker 1: and they're terrible, but I really like satisfy claimant. They

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Speaker 1: pursuit of happiness. That strong arm fought valiantly for the

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Speaker 1: where you're thinking now. I read a book for this episode,

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Speaker 1: to the Second Coming of the KKK by Lynda Gordon.

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Speaker 1: is really special. It is almost unbelievably dense. I've rarely

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Speaker 1: like it's it's really good. We're only using fractions of

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Speaker 1: interested in the history of American radical right wing extremism. Now,

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Speaker 1: In Birth of a Nation was a fanciful story about

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Speaker 1: Ray Peppi Friedman. It was the first film ever shown

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Speaker 1: at the White House. Woodrow Wilson fucking loved it, saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: where as present if you're getting this guy's opinion on it,

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Speaker 1: fifteen different fraternal orders. Now, today, for rats are just

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Speaker 1: the Ku Klux Klan. Simmons is KKK was just as

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Speaker 1: ranted against quote the hairy claw of Bolshevism, socialism, syndicalism,

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Speaker 1: He believed that these forces were quote seeking in an

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Speaker 1: your you pick your own sequel title, KKK Harder, you

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Speaker 1: know whatever there's there's. In his promotional materials, he described

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Speaker 1: men whose oaths are inviolate are needed. His oats are inviolate,

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Speaker 1: The uh Clanmicon, the tone of the the Martian demon

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Speaker 1: You can find the whole chloron online. It's it's it

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Speaker 1: of course, of course it's stilled with a K. We

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Speaker 1: that this was not radical the time, the KKK was

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Speaker 1: each state, each run by a Grand Dragon. The states,

423
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: the states, I don't know. Man. At the bottom of

424
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: the organization were the Ghouls, organized into claverns, which were

425
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: headed by Exalted cyclopses. Not did you see does a

426
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: the goals Exalted cycles The Exalted Cyclops heads a clavern. Yeahs,

427
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: like like they know, like like gnomes, Like like why

428
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: would you just like say you were goals. Goals make

429
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: up a clavin Googles, Googles make up a clavern. There

430
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: the rank and file of the clansmen, sorry, I'm sorry,

431
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: and they're headed by a grand Grand Cyclops. Is absolutely

432
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: more than I ever wanted to know. I Exalted Cyclops,

433
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: these are like getting get that right to these things.

434
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm never going to forget and I'm not copy about it. Yeah,

435
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: you know it's stuck there forever. Now. Yeah, if you

436
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: think about the KKK is a political or militant organization.

437
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: Outside of the silly names, this structure makes sense. But

438
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: once you understand the financial dimensions, well, it becomes very

439
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: clearly a Pyramids game quote. Clan members generated an enormous

440
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: amount of revenue each Google paid a ten dollar initiation

441
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: fee equivalent to a hundred and ten and two thousand

442
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: eleven dollars six fifty to buy an official clan robe,

443
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: which costs roughly two dollars to make, an annual membership

444
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: fee of five dollars, an imperial tax of a dollar

445
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: eighty and Klansmen were also encouraged to purchase other clan

446
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: sanctioned merchandise, including swords, bibles, helmets, dry cleaning, and life insurance.

447
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: Joined the clan was not a cheap undertaking. Using the

448
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: numbers above, the first year of membership cost twenty three

449
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: thirty roughly two hundred and fifty dollars in two thousand

450
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: eleven dollars, and subsequent years were six dollars and eighty

451
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: cents approximately seventy five dollars in two thousand eleven dollars.

452
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: At its peak in nineteen four, the clan conservatively generated

453
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: annual revenue from all sources of at least twenty five million,

454
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: equivalent to three hundred million in current dollars. Only a

455
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: small portion of this revenue was required to fund basic operations.

456
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: It was a Pyramids game, it was it was. It

457
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: was a racist Pyramids game. And I'm sorry. The dry

458
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: cleaning was that for the rope. You gotta keep those

459
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: white robes clean. You ever worn a white robe, quick, Katie,

460
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: it's gonna haven't you know? I haven't a white as

461
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: about it though. Yeah. The problems that come from wearing

462
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: drink shoppy one you like, bloody up somebody everything, It

463
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: shows everything everything, especially racist. Where the swords like Brandon,

464
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, yeah, there were course there were branded swords.

465
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Fullest question. This economic growth was possible thanks to an

466
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: enormous sales force started nineteen twenty one by r PR

467
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Friends and soon over a thousand people strong. Each Grand Dragon,

468
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: the state clan heads got to fifty out of each

469
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: ten dollar membership fee. Members also paid a one dollar

470
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: yearly tax, which went to the Grand Dragon. Fifty cents

471
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: of every six dollar and fifty cent clan roade went

472
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: to him as well, So the Grand Dragons make bank,

473
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: and so did the sales force. The US is split

474
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: into nine domains, with a goblin in charge of recruitment.

475
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: For each, the goblin hires a King Klegal who hires

476
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of Klegal's the regular grunt sales force of

477
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: the endeavor. They made four dollars off of each membership.

478
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: The remaining three fifty was sent up the recruiting structure,

479
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: with the person in charge of sales in the state,

480
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: the King Klegal getting a dollar, the regional sales overseer

481
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: a great Goblin, got five cents, the national sales overseer

482
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: and Imperial Kleigal got a dollar twenty five, and the

483
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: two most powerful men in the clan, the Imperial Wizard

484
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: and the Grand Wizard, split se They were doing that

485
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: for the whole country. Kleigels were paid for recruiting new members,

486
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: and once someone joined, none of the ongoing revenues went

487
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: to the sales force, so the big cheeses. The ongoing

488
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: revenue is where it's at, so the salesforce gets a

489
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: cut of the initial went whenever recruits someone and then

490
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: the big cheeses get anything else that they buy. So

491
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: the Invisible Empire sold robes, flags, dry cleaning services, candy,

492
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: every kind of thing. Imagine, I'm gonna quote again from

493
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: the second Coming of the Ku klux Klan quote a

494
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: klux ER's nifty knife every word in that has felt

495
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: with a K, which was described as a quote real

496
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: hundred percent knife for hundred percent Americans could be bought

497
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: for a dollar five. A member could buy a broach

498
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: for his wife, A zircon studded fiery cross. A larger

499
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: cross that a man could wear on the watch chain

500
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: he displayed across his chest cost two ninety. For only

501
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: five dollars, you could get allegedly a fourteen carrot gold

502
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: filled ring with a tin care It's solid gold clan

503
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: emblem on a fiery red stone. Also for sale, we're

504
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: phonograph records and player piano rolls with clan songs. Advertisements

505
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: for this merchandise appeared to newspapers across the country and

506
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: in flyers at large clon vocations. The Clans for Profit

507
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Life Insurance Plan claimed three million dollars with the policies

508
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: in nine, a dubious figure. It claimed to provide burial

509
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: insurance as well, but the service never actually materialized because

510
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: it was a scamp. Now the KKK also offered a

511
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: spectacular vacation getaway. I found an ad from sometimes It's well,

512
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: just you wait, I'm gonna hand you the ad Katie,

513
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and you can describe it to the readers. Now. It's

514
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: from some time in the twenties Duke University, which is

515
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: where I found this host. It didn't know exactly win

516
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: and it talks about you know what, I'm just gonna

517
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna describe this ad Katie, a right to

518
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: all the clans and clansmen of Texas. And then there's

519
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: like a little image it says cool Coast Camp, the

520
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: healthiest road to the coolest summer. Are all those words

521
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: spelled with a K, Cool Coast every yes, every single

522
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: one that you could imagine, and the coolest summer, Cool

523
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: Coast Clan Camp, the healthiest road to the coolest summer.

524
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: To read some of this things, yeah, you're getting a

525
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit of that ad copy. While I greetings we

526
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: the grand Dragons of the Realm of Texas and the

527
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: great Titans of the five Provinces in Texas, Knights of

528
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: the Ku Klux Klan hereby officially endorsed the annexed proposition

529
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: of Klansmen C. T. Gilliam of this is the realm

530
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: of Texas, the realm of Texas. Really into that he

531
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: proposes to give a high class service to the Klansmen

532
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: of Texas at a minimum cost. Yeah. Right. That goes

533
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: on back to you what a knife? That says knife?

534
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: You know my favorite things to heart against it being

535
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: like you don't know, you, you don't know, you don't

536
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: know what it's cut. The clan would have hated Swiss,

537
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: They would have hated a swisser because Swiss army knife.

538
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: That's like race mixing for tools. They're a threat to

539
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: knife civilization. Now. The Cool Coast camp AD is a

540
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: really fun document to read. For one thing, it brags

541
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: repeatedly and pointedly about how much shade their beaches because

542
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: everybody is really white. Guess what it recommends as the

543
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: most sensible thing to wear. She a big Mexican sombrero.

544
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: What is that? Like? Those are the exact words, Those

545
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: are the exact words, Mexican sombrero. Oh, there is no

546
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: shortage of bigotry in the ad, but it is kind

547
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: of the classic wholesome, mainstream nineties American bigotry as opposed

548
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: to what we would expect from the clan today. I'm

549
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: going to read, for example, a section idled the family

550
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: that's sort of advertising this camp to the rest of

551
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: the family. Wonderful Mother's This camp spelled with the K

552
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: is deeded to you. So cool, so RESTful, no work whatsoever,

553
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: no drudgery, no worry. The fiery Cross guards you at nights,

554
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: and an officer of the law with the same Christian

555
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: sentiment guards carefully all portals. Beautiful daughter, A beautiful camp

556
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: needs beautiful ornaments, no dust to avoid, shades natural and

557
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: shades artificial to keep away the freckles. Cool with a

558
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: K in every way, the time of your life, and

559
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: all caps. Put a bug in Daddy's ear and hug

560
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: him tight. He will let you come. The sentiment reflected

561
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: through humanity by the rays of the Fiery Cross makes

562
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: you as safe in our camp as at home. And

563
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: mother's arms. Mother's arms is capitalized too. The prize of

564
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: a concrete Lizzie no idea, I have no idea. No.

565
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: The only thing with the sea that spelled with the sea,

566
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the concrete Lizzie is. But that

567
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: was the prize given any person who could find a

568
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: more wonderful spot in America that this is a sex thing. Yes, yes,

569
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: it's a fucking thing. They were all funk guys in

570
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: the K a concrete Lizzie age. Oh no, all right, yeah,

571
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: at a low cost, at an affordable cost cost. It's

572
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: affordable cost because Texas coast is kind of shitty. The

573
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: realm of Texas, Texas does not have a nice coast.

574
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: Speaking as a Texan, don't go to Galveston, all right,

575
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: that wasn't a concern. Good good. The KKK recognized that

576
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: children represented an incredible potential market so far untapped by

577
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: the powers of commercial racism. They opened three auxiliary groups

578
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: for children. The Junior KKK, starting in ninety three, was

579
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: literally just a child's version of the KKK. One new

580
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Junior k KK chapter announced its opening by blowing a

581
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: horn and lighting across and the leather j on fire.

582
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 1: Oh no no. For young girls, there was the try

583
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: K club. Club is spelled with the K, modeled after

584
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: popular sororities at the time. Now, there was plenty of

585
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: racism in the try K. Historian Christina du Rocher described

586
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: the central message of their propaganda as quote, white girls

587
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: should remove themselves from contact with all blacks, a passive

588
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: way of preserving white supremacy. But the tri K Club

589
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: was first and foremost a social club. I found an

590
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: illustrated collection of the KKK sheet music on Google Books

591
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: because Internet, and it included the ritual of the tri

592
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: K Club, which seems like it was probably patterned off

593
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: the Cluron. It includes a pledged song of this racism sorority.

594
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read just the first verse. We pledged you

595
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: our friendship true through happiness and tears. The tie that

596
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: binds our hearts to you will hold throughout the years.

597
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: Beneath this flag that waves, above this cross that lights

598
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: our way, you will always find a sister's love in

599
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: the heart of each tri K. I'm I got no,

600
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: this is this is good for? Yeah? Yeah, burning cross

601
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: is a little weird. Yeah it was. Yeah. You don't

602
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: know how why it's lit up. It's just illuminated in flame. Yeah,

603
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: it's weird. How prescient you're saying that is about to

604
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: be now. Hiram Evans, who ousted the pr People at

605
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: the end of nineteen twenty two, and became the next

606
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: Imperial Wizard. Still wanted to make money, but he was

607
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: also someone for whom straight up racism was a huge

608
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: part of the appeal. Here's the second coming of the KKK.

609
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: His first career as a dentist might seem modest. One

610
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: of his rivals liked to call him a tooth puller,

611
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: and he took advantage of the impression, calling himself the

612
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: most average man in America so as to normalize the clan.

613
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: His short, plump stature added to his everyman image. In fact,

614
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: he was capable of serious violence, and Dallas, where he

615
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: joined the clan in nineteen twenty, he had organized black

616
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: squads that kidnapped and tortured at least one black man. Dallas,

617
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: by the way, used to be known as the most

618
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: racist city in America around this time, the city of hate,

619
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: and it was actually a really cool story. The Dallas

620
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Morning News crippled the clan in that city by like

621
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: having reporters find where their meetings were and takedown notes

622
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: of all of the license plates they saw to like

623
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: figure out which elected members and who was in the clan,

624
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: and like published that ship like morning News did a

625
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: lot of damage to the k docs, the docks, the

626
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: fucking fascists. Yeah, did a great job. So yeah, Dallas

627
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Morning News is anti fall. I guess Evans decided that

628
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: the clan should be more than an MLM, It should

629
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: be a political party. He moved the KKKS headquarters to

630
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: d C and established a magazine, Fellowship Forum, that was

631
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: not explicitly tied to the KKK, but existed to further

632
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: its political aims. The Fellowship Forum build itself is standing

633
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: for pure Americanism. There were also in a number of

634
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: the documents I read the sentiment America First, which I

635
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: apparently came from the KKK before it became the center

636
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: of Charles Lindberg's organization. You found that on a lot

637
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: their documents. There was also just recently come out that

638
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: there was talk about a wall at one of the

639
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: big colon vacations they held like a guy talking about

640
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: we need a silver wall and keep out immigrants, but

641
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: he was not talking about one at the Mexican border.

642
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: He was talking about a wall of laws to stop

643
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: people from like Italy. They really hated Catholics, um so racist,

644
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: but different different fundamental concepts. Lifted dress it up a

645
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: little differently, put it over there, one of the Mexicans,

646
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: because they need stay in the shade when you go

647
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: to the cool coast. Scared. Oh good god. Soon after

648
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: chaking charge, Evans realized that the leader of the Indiana KKK,

649
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: David Stevenson, had some potential. He put him in charge

650
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: of recruitment for seven states. Here's that book again. I'm

651
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: nobody from nowhere, really, but I've got the biggest brains,

652
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: he boasted. I'm going to be the biggest man in

653
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: the United States. But Stevenson was a fraud several times over.

654
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: He claimed to be the millionaire son of a wealthy

655
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: businessman and who have earned a decoration for bravery in

656
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: World War One. In fact, he was the son of

657
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: a Texas sharecropper. His education at a parochial school ended

658
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: with the eighth grade, and his stint with the army

659
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: was as a recruiter in Iowa. He boasted of owning

660
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: a wholesale coal supply and auto accessory companies, but in

661
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: fact worked as a salesman for someone else's coal company.

662
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: He married at least three women, drank, heavily, got into fights,

663
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: beat his wives, and attempted to rape several other women,

664
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: but the motherfucker could talk and convince people to join

665
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: the KKK, so he stayed. Under his leadership. Twenty three

666
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: percent of the native born white men in southern Indiana

667
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: joined the KKK. He refused to be called by his name,

668
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: going by the Old Man. Stevenson made millions off of

669
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: his racist down line and was able to buy a

670
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: mansion and a yacht. We'll come back to him later.

671
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: He does get his just desserts. So he wasn't comfortable

672
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: with all the lofty titles. The old Man, the old Man,

673
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the biggest man in America. Yeah. For

674
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: a good long while in the early nineteen twenties, the

675
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: Ku Klux Clan was everywhere. At its height, as many

676
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: as four million Americans, roughly four percent of the country

677
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: were members. It is to this day the largest explicitly

678
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: racist organization in American history, if you don't count the Confederacy. Yeah, yeah,

679
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: four million. Now, the clan did not draw in that

680
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: many members by focusing on the racism up front. Was

681
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: always there a calm backdraft in their propaganda and at

682
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: every outing. But they knew you'd catch more flies with

683
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: honey than with water. Enter the clon vacations. These were

684
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: gigantic outdoor events, akin to massive state fairs or even carnivals,

685
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: which they held in order to draw in new members

686
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: and foster solidarity with clans members. Here's how the Nation

687
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: described one such gathering. On July four nine, for instance,

688
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: a crowd estimated it between fifty thousand and two hundred

689
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: thousand attended a clan picnic in Cocomo, Indiana. The clon

690
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: vocation boasted six tons of beef, fifty five thousand buns,

691
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred pies, and five thousand cases of soda.

692
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: Children had their own play center, while adults could take

693
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: their pick of entertainments, including a boys singing quartet, a

694
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: talkie film so his performers, a six round boxing match,

695
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: and a daredevil who performed aerial acrobatics on the wing

696
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: of a circling plane. Yeah, all right, it sounds like,

697
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: sounds like and that was the idea we hold this,

698
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: not like we're going to try to get all the races,

699
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: but like we're just holding throw a big party for

700
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: white people and then maybe they want to join the

701
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: clan and then we'll get more money. Yeah, thousand burgers.

702
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: They also charged admission and stuff. They made a profit

703
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty grand, which three dollars as a shipload. Yeah,

704
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: they cleaned up. And the biggest of these was in

705
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: twenty four had like two thousand people show up, the

706
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: largest clan gathering ever and like a lot of people

707
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: didn't know it was necessarily like, oh, this is like

708
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: for the clan stuff. It's like no, I'm going to

709
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: go to a fund. But it was like it was

710
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: like it's the clan. It's yeah. It wasn't weird then,

711
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: like that people met and fell in love there. I

712
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: bet they did that. A lot of a lot of

713
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: clan babies, a lot of clon vocation kiddies. Wasn't the

714
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: reason pull like about like the number of people in

715
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: America who like are okay with white supremacy and neo

716
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: Nazis and stuff, And it was about four p s

717
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: something like that, thank you. It's about i'd really like

718
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: recently like last year, yeah, which is a lot of

719
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: racists In fucking Toronto, twenty three thousand people voted for

720
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: Faith Goldie and explicitly neo Nazi candidate Canadians, So and

721
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: they're Canadians. Things are going well, things are going great.

722
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: Wasn't like a fun barbecue to go to. So it's

723
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: with thousands of buns, thousands of speaking of thousands of buns. Ads,

724
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: we're back. We're talking about Clon Vocations, the KKKS primary

725
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: method of recruiting new klansmen. I hate these words. Way

726
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: too many ks being set up in here. I slightly

727
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: cringe every time cringe with the k Yeah, clingel. Large

728
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: cross burnings were also held at Clon vocations, but unlike

729
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: the first and ladder types of cross burnings that were

730
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: familiar with to day, these were not primarily hateful spectacles.

731
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: So like a cross burning is like the most racist

732
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: thing you can do. These were not like they were

733
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: pro Protestant and everyone knew the clan was anti Catholic.

734
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: But the cross burnings were more like a fireworks show,

735
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: like they would they would compete to see who could

736
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: build the biggest like crossing which were like fifty ft tasson,

737
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: which were too big to even burn. They would like

738
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: funk up. Sometimes they would make gigantic crosses and covering

739
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: with light bulbs, like it was like a look at

740
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: this cool thing that we're doing a little bit of

741
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: that because they weren't like going to like black people's

742
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: houses and putting them on their lawns. Like that may

743
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: have happened out in the Sticks sometimes, but like the

744
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: main purpose was to like entertain people. That was the

745
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: goal of the Cross things. Um, so this context, but

746
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: when you're out in the wild much more usually we

747
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: will be getting to that. I will be talking about

748
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: the violence and stuff. But from what I read, cross

749
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: burnings not a huge part of the violence at that point.

750
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Like that was more of like a show anything that

751
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: you did at the big events, and the violence was

752
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: the violence. The clan did describe themselves as the Army

753
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: of the Cross. And I do want to really point

754
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: out how much anti Catholic bias was critical to this too,

755
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: because they were super racist against Catholics as well as

756
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: black people in Jews. And I guess you're not racist

757
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: against socialist, but they didn't like socialist anybody that wasn't like, Yeah,

758
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't a very specific kind of hardcaring member of

759
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: the very legitimate organization. Yeah. The Klansmen also played highly

760
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: publicized baseball games, often against teams of people that they

761
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: defined in their propaganda as aliens. The second coming of

762
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: the KKK notes quote the Youngstown clan team challenged the

763
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Knights of Columbus, and the clan played Wichita's crack colored team,

764
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: the Monrovians. The clan lost. Finally, in areas of clan strength,

765
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: it operated sandlot teams that played in recognized leagues, sometimes

766
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: semi pro teams. Indiana, a clan stronghold, fielded a dozen

767
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: such teams. These leagues might plan adiums, in the newspaper

768
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: coverage might list all team members, no secrecy here. In

769
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Los Angeles the clan team played a three game charity

770
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: series against the Benigh Breath team, and in nine in Washington,

771
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: d C. The clan played against the Hebrew All Stars.

772
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: Newspaper coverage typically treated the clan team like all others,

773
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: with no particular attention to clan politics. Thus, baseball function

774
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: to normalize the clans that it could appear as a

775
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: be nine club akin to the Elks, or again a

776
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: labor union KKK playing the Benigh Breath ball. That was

777
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: the thing that happened in history. Yeah. Now, while all

778
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: this was going on, there were clavern's who took to

779
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: the KKKS more traditional activities, violently oppressing minorities. A number

780
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: of clavern's exercised vigilante justice. That is an important story

781
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: which I've waited until the end to cover. That's because

782
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I think it's important to understand what the Second Clan

783
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: was in context. The first Clan was awful and a

784
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: clear terrorist organization, was viewed by most Americans as a

785
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: terrorist organization, at least outside of the South. But the

786
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: only real ethos of the Second Clan was making money.

787
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: The racism and bigotry was just there because in nineteen

788
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: it's sold. If the same pr people that had hatched

789
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: this scheme were around today, they may would have made

790
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: a fraternal order that was super woken PC because there's

791
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: more money there now. Like they were. I'm sure they

792
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: were racist too, but that it wasn't about that. It

793
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: was about making the money and the clan. Again it

794
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: is it's important to understand if you're gonna understand the

795
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: twenties that everyone knew the clan was racist, but everyone

796
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: was racist, like the woke people were racist, like our

797
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: grandparents were racist. Every everybody was. It was yeah, it's

798
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: only a griff because of the money making structure, wasn't Yeah, Yeah,

799
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: it was not considered extreme ye, not radicalizing anybody or anything. Like, yeah,

800
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: now what we're going to talk about. The violent part

801
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: was extreme, and that is an important factor, but that

802
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: was an ancillary thing that happened because of the original

803
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: KKKS history and because a lot of racists are violent.

804
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: The violence was not primarily the goal of the organization.

805
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: It was the Pyramids game. Yeah. So in the early nineties,

806
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: urban crime rose by in the United States. Clan propaganda

807
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: heavily emphasize these rising crime rates and build the clan

808
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: as like their predecessors regulators. Much of this crime was

809
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: driven by prohibition, and prohibition was a cause that KKK

810
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: firmly supported. Also, women's voting rights. There's a feminist angle

811
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: to the clan too. We're not gonna get into enough

812
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: of it here, but there was a women's auxiliary KKK

813
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: very popular, like the clan was because one of the

814
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: two pr people who found this was a woman. Was

815
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: one of the first organizations in American realized like, well,

816
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: women are voting now, so they have political power. They

817
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: also have more money now, so we should go after them.

818
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: We should get that, we should get that fucking money.

819
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: Well that did. Yeah. In the kkk K feminist icon,

820
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: the KKKA is important, super important, not just men in

821
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: the clan these days. Yeah uh. Some people even called

822
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: the clan the mill wing of the Temperance movement. Generally,

823
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: klansmen and individual Claverance were willing to use violence against

824
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: black people, of course, but also any other bugbear of

825
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: that era's right wing. They carried out a raid that

826
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: arrested fifty two bootleggers in Anaheim, got a hundred and

827
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: twenty five people arrested in Indianapolis, again bootleggers in the Northwest.

828
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: They spent a lot of time threatening labor organizers. One

829
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: Oregon Kleigel sent out this morning, if you are the

830
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: mouthpiece of American labor in this locality, warn and do

831
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: not endorse the above principles, then you should be a

832
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: fit subject for a vigilance committee. I found another piece

833
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: of sheet music in the KKK that looks forward, this

834
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: regulator depiction of the KKK. It's titled there's a Klansman

835
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: watching you. O. You guys want to sing this for me? Cody,

836
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: that's all you get. Yeah, you're right, you did the

837
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: other thing. And also you're the musician. There's a class

838
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: of people patriotic in their work, always on their guard,

839
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: always watchful, misspelled, and alert. They all make good citizens.

840
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: They're friends of Uncle Sam. They fight for right with

841
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: all their might. They're called the ku Klux clan. Um

842
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: that the verse keep going, man, you will find them

843
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: about in the country. You will find them in town.

844
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: There as thick as bees in clover. You can't tell him.

845
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: They're Oh, you may think that you're gone to fool them.

846
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: Have a cow? What you do? The ku Klux clan

847
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: or always watching, sure, watching you. There's a second verse

848
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: that I will not do Wow. Wow, that was a virtue.

849
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: Also performance. Let's that's how it goes. So where did

850
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: they sing this again? What was records? They had records.

851
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: They had a publishing press and a record press. Like

852
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: you're having a dinner party, like, let's put on the

853
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: new clan record. You guys heard there's a clan has

854
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: been watching you fire. Yeah. Oregon and Oklahoma were particular

855
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: centers of clan vigilance committee violence. The Second Coming of

856
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: the KKK summarizes quote three Oregon cases known as the

857
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Oregon Outrages, captured widespread press attention when night writers terrified

858
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: their victims with such lynching threats. JF. Hale A piano salesman.

859
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: White was accused of illicit sexual affairs, and the would

860
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: be Lyncher's demanded that he break off the improper relationships,

861
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: and may have also been targeted because he owed money

862
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: that a klansman was having trouble collecting. Sam Johnson, described

863
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: as part Mexican, was accused of stealing chickens and being

864
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: an idler. Arthur Burr, an African American bootblack, accused of bootlegging,

865
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: received the worst treatment. Vigilantes abducted him and took him

866
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: to the very crest of the Siskiyou Mountains, where they

867
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: strung him up and let him down three times. Releasing him,

868
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: they fired revolvers near his feet, demanding that he leave

869
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: the era permanently, yelling can you run inward. Though charges

870
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: were brought against three groups of clansmen, in each case,

871
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: juries acquitted the culprits on the grounds that because the

872
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: victims were morally bad, their vigilante punishment benefit of the community.

873
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: By contrast, Oklahoma, Indiana, Kansas, and southern Illinois locations that

874
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: were as much southern as northern experienced a great deal

875
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: of actual clan of violence, whippings, tar and featherings, and lynchings,

876
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and all four places, some degree of racial segregation was

877
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: in place, and clan violence helped to keep it in place.

878
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: And Oklahoma, clan provoked violence became so widespread, with a

879
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: reported one flogging for every night of the year, that

880
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: the governor placed parts of the state under martial law.

881
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Clan efforts got him impeached in nineteen three. Oklahoma law

882
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: officers sometimes handed suspects over to clan whipping parties or

883
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: even participated in the beatings, and Kansas clansmen abducted an

884
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: anti clan mayor, tied him to a and laid thirty

885
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: stripes on his bare back, and bloody Williamson as one

886
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: southern Illinois county became known the local clan and the

887
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: Anti Saloon League merged into the Williamson County Law Enforcement League,

888
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: which soon became run by the clan. Attacks on the

889
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: operators of the wide open bars produced lethal battles in

890
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: nine twenty five, involved a gunman and the deployment of

891
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: military forces, and ended by forcing the anti clan sheriff

892
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: out of office. These armed skirmishes killed twenty people. So

893
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: do not want to be ignoring the violence is still happening,

894
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: but it wasn't the overarching like, it wasn't the purpose.

895
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: The clan was more about money. But also the violence

896
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: was occurring within the society was fine with us. This

897
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: is not a counter cultural act. Again, they were acquitted

898
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: generally when they were brought to trial because most people

899
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: were fine with what Most white people were fine with

900
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: what they were doing taking care of business because the

901
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: government's not gonna do it. So horribly violent, but not

902
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: horribly violent against the wishes of the majority of their

903
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: white Protestant country. And in fact, we're kind of saying

904
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: as heroes by a lot of people, which was true

905
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: only in the South. For the original KKK North was not.

906
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: It's a gaming of racist Batman exactly. And America has

907
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: always loved the vigilante badass that's the punisher. But racist. Yeah.

908
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: In nine the KKK even carried out an attack on

909
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: the home of the young Malcolm X when he and

910
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: his parents lived in North Omaha. Here's a quote from

911
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: Malcolm's autobiography. It actually is how his autobiography starts. When

912
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: my mother was pregnant with me, she told me later,

913
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan writers galloped up

914
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: to our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night, surrounding the

915
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: house brandishing their shotguns and rifles, they shouted for my

916
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: father to come out. My mother went to the front

917
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: door and opened it, standing where they could see her

918
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: pregnant condition. She told them that she was alone with

919
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: her three small children, and that my father was away

920
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: preaching in Milwaukee. The klansmen shouted threats and warnings at

921
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: herd that we had better get out of town because

922
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: the good Christian white people were not going to stand

923
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: for my father's spread in trouble among the good Negroes

924
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: of Omaha. With the Back to Africa preachings of Marcus Garvey,

925
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: my father, the Reverend Earl Little, was a Batist minister,

926
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: a dedicated organizer from Marcus Aurelius Garvey's u n I,

927
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: a United Negro Improvement Association. With the help of such

928
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: disciples as my father, Garvey, from his headquarters in New

929
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: York City's Harlem, was raising the banner of black race

930
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: purity and exhorting the Negro masses to return to their

931
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: ancestral African homeland, a cause which had made Garvey the

932
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: most controversial black man on earth. Still shouting threats, the

933
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: klansmen finally spurred their horses and galloped around the house,

934
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: shattering every window with their gun butts. Then they rode

935
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: off into the night, their torches flaring as suddenly as

936
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: they had come. It was terrifying. Yeah, it's horrifying now.

937
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: Like all good and bad Pyramids games, the clan had

938
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: to come to an end. It was finally brought down,

939
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: not by the US government, because probably most of THEIS

940
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: government's fine with it, but by the incompetence, greed, and

941
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: corruption of its leaders. It's always, it's always that with

942
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: these kinds of far right gangs. Philip Fox, editor of

943
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: the Imperial night Hawk, a major clan newspaper, was sentenced

944
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: to life imprisonment for murdering another clansman he considered a rival.

945
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: Hiram Evans called it a personal affair. Governor Ed Jackson

946
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: of Indiana, a klansman, was indicted for bribery. Officers of

947
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: the Klan Bank were also indicted for embezzlement and grand larceny.

948
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: There were countless scandals and arrests, a fight with the

949
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: FBI that led to nineteen people being charged. Members caught

950
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: drinking and bootlegging and paying for back out the abortions.

951
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: They picked a fight with jed Gar Hoover. Not a

952
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: smart guy to pick a fight with, really bad guy

953
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: to pick a fighter in that period of time. They

954
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: did not win that fight. The final nail in the

955
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: KKK's coffin was the conviction of Indiana Grand Dragon Stevenson,

956
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: who talked about earlier for kidnapping, raping, and murdering his secretary.

957
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Now only the classiest, high class. I mean, I was

958
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: waiting to be like white collar, like a tax thing, saying,

959
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: like a terrible thing. He did well. And here's here's what.

960
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: It's actually even worse than it sounds because he did

961
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: not technically murdered her. He raped her and assaulted her,

962
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: and then she killed herself. But the jury convicted him

963
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: of murder because they believed he'd ruined her, which is

964
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: also why she killed her. Else, it's like even worse

965
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: than just because it's the twenties and it was a

966
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: garbage time to exist. Yeah, it's it's messed up. But

967
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Stevenson went to fucking prison. Uh I think so? Yeah,

968
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: he was convicted a second degree murder. Um. Yeah, my

969
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: ninety seven, the KKK had gone from its high of

970
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: like four million members to less than three d and

971
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: fifty tho active members nationwide. It never quite went extinct entirely.

972
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: Men continue wearing clan robes and being racist up until

973
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: the modern day, but the giant money making and political

974
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: enterprise that it once was fell apart. Are there still dues?

975
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean maybe an individual chapters, but there's no you know,

976
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: not the structure of saying it was. Yeah, there's some

977
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: people that try to be that, but like it's pretty

978
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: shadows of themselves. The legacy of the KKK outside of

979
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: its existence as an MLM and the vigilante violence had inspired,

980
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: is unclear. During its height, the KKK was extremely politically active,

981
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: but there is substantial debate as to whether or not

982
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: it actually influenced politics on a mass scale. A number

983
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: of clan backed candidates were a less did and the

984
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: clan was a massive fundraiser, but that Harvard Studies analysis

985
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: claimed that the actual political achievements of the group were

986
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: fairly minimal just because those people were already gonna get elected.

987
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: They weren't elected because there are clansmen. Everybody was fucking racist.

988
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: They're just happy to be in the clan. However, in

989
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: the conclusion of the second coming to of the KKK.

990
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Linda Gordon makes this note. Some scholars and contemporary observers

991
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: have seen the nineteen twenties Northern Clan as a failure

992
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: because it was short lived and because its campaigns against

993
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: Catholics and Jews did not manage to confine them to

994
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: second class citizenship, but transience is common to most social movements. Moreover,

995
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: at the Clan Declient in part because it had triumphed

996
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: in several respects. State eugenics laws providing for forcible sterilization

997
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: of those of defective stock spread the thirty States, and

998
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: those labeled defective were typically the poor and people of color.

999
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: The biggest clan victory was immigration restriction, and Imperial Wizard

1000
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: events repeatedly claimed credit for its passage. I mean, it

1001
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: is pretty disappointing that their eventual like downfall er decline

1002
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: was not because people started to know better or like

1003
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: people stood up like this whole story. I'm sitting here

1004
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: thinking like, yeah, but when is it like oh this

1005
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: person like there's this big altercation and people started just

1006
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: public opinion started to change. Nope, it was they were

1007
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: fine with the racism and the vigilante murder. It was

1008
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: the abortion thing that really back Alley abortions really turned

1009
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: America against him through it. I know, the wall stuff,

1010
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: the immigration stuff. It's always so fascinating, Like why do

1011
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: you think these things aligned with Like maybe it's even

1012
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: like you recognize that other people who aren't white have

1013
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: invented things you like, like sombreros guys without Mexicans. How

1014
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: are you going to go to the cool coast you're

1015
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: able to go to the cool coast scamp. You're gonna

1016
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: have a bad time. You're gonna have a bad time

1017
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: with the cool coast scamp. You wouldn't got anywhere there

1018
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: playing the Benigh breathin baseball. Jeesus, that is fascinating. That

1019
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: was a twig. That was it. And now I know

1020
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: what MLMs too level marketing. Yeah, it's a really important

1021
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: in the politics of today. Yeah, I just hadn't heard

1022
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: that abbreviation Money Lives Matter. There is a direct line

1023
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: between the strategy behind the KKK and the strategy behind

1024
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: am Way, which is the source of the fortune of

1025
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: beth Sie of Vos. But we can't. We don't have

1026
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: time to talk about her. We don't have time to

1027
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: talk about her. Yeah, that sage us into the next episode. Yeah,

1028
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: we will be doing another thing very soon. Uh. Plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs,

1029
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: fus check us out on the internet, Twitter, Twitter, dot com,

1030
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: slash some more news. I was getting there, okay. It

1031
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: seemed like you were just like passing it off. No, no, no,

1032
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: you said on the internet. That's pretty um are YouTube show.

1033
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: Also some more news our podcast, even more news. Yep.

1034
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: That on the Twitter personal Twitter, it's Katie Stolen. We'll

1035
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: get good at this one day. Give them money. Some

1036
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: more news Patreon dollars to go to there, go to there. Um.

1037
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: You can find me on the internet at I right okay,

1038
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I have a book called A Brief History

1039
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: of Ice. It's not about the plan. It's about me

1040
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: putting a friend in the hospital with dangerous drugs. It's fun,

1041
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: it's a good time. Everybody. Everybody enjoyed it. Twitter and Instagram.

1042
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,160
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1043
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,400
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