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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know how like you know when your period's coming?

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Speaker 1: Oh do I?

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Speaker 2: Oh do I Cramer. It's been an adventure since this baby.

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Speaker 2: Like it's so I'm like kind of getting back onto

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Speaker 2: my normal schedule ish, like it's getting longer and longer

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Speaker 2: each time. It's gone from like nine days to like

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Speaker 2: now having like twenty. I know that was terrible for

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Speaker 2: like three weeks it would be like every nine days

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Speaker 2: three months. But now so it's like when it says

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Speaker 2: like period and three days, I'm like, oh, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I know. You actually don't even have to check the

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Speaker 2: calendar anymore. I can pretty much tell you.

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Speaker 1: But like in the way that like we don't admit

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Speaker 1: we know.

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Speaker 2: I would never admit it to well Alan, Now, why

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Speaker 2: was he? Oh? Because I was. I was telling him

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Speaker 2: about like how excited I was that I wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to be on my period for the wedding, and so

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'm like look at in

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Speaker 2: this app and he's like, what is that thing? And

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Speaker 2: so then we kind of like deep dove on this

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Speaker 2: little flow app or whatever because it was just funny

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Speaker 2: some of the articles they have on there, but I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can tell. And at that time, it was like

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Speaker 2: seven days before and I was like, ooh, buckle up, buddy.

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Speaker 2: I was like, the week before is always the worst one.

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Speaker 1: We used to always talk about that. It's like we

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Speaker 1: would never admit it, but it's like three days before

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Speaker 1: We're like, why are we being such a raging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, b my tolerance is yeah, so low. But then

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Speaker 2: I'm also like, take a nap. It's like a weird

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Speaker 2: nap depression slash, rage depression rage slash, like just like

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Speaker 2: the webside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mine definitely changed, Like I went through a phase

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Speaker 1: for years where it was like why am I acting

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Speaker 1: this way? Like this is crazy, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like tapered off a little bit and

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Speaker 1: is a little bit more just kind of like me.

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Speaker 2: You're like, you know, what's interesting is it? I felt

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Speaker 2: like maybe five years ago I could tell it was

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Speaker 2: coming for sure, but there was like this voice inside

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Speaker 2: of me. It was like, ah, girl, we know what

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Speaker 2: this is. You know, like hang on, buckle up, girl,

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Speaker 2: hang on tight. You're okay, We're gonna make it, you know,

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Speaker 2: and maybe just don't say that comment like that girl,

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Speaker 2: was inside of me. She's been replaced from some like

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Speaker 2: street rat Like I don't buy that, I mean legit like.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I think he's rather daisy got to

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Speaker 3: eat to lift, which brings me to my next thing.

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Speaker 1: Funny story about that if you're moving.

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Speaker 2: The ravenous eating, Yes, I mean I can tell you

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Speaker 2: I want to submerge myself in a pool of pad

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Speaker 2: tie and eat my way out to save my own

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Speaker 2: life for sure. Yeah, it's aggressive.

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Speaker 1: About the app. I mean I shouldn't. This just goes

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Speaker 1: along with you know, the things I probably shouldn't say, but.

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Speaker 4: This is so and here it goes Mease are always

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Speaker 4: the flower app or whatever? We love the flap, So

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Speaker 4: I probably shouldn't say this is about my child, but

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Speaker 4: it's okay.

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Speaker 2: So you know I have a twelve year old daughter, right,

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Speaker 2: and we hope she doesn't listen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she'd be mortified, but no, I mean she

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Speaker 1: wouldn't care. Actually she wouldn't care. But so I told

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Speaker 1: her when she had started her period for the very

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Speaker 1: first time, that she should get an app so she

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Speaker 1: can track it. So then we know, like when she's

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Speaker 1: going to be on her period and stuff.

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Speaker 2: You have the app to talk about sex well, because well

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Speaker 2: we're like, how to have sex on your period and

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Speaker 2: we're like going through it and it's like doggy stot

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Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, I'm like Jesus, it gets really Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I told her to do that, not thinking like

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Speaker 1: I just thought it would you know, track or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And she we're in the car and she goes, hey, Mom,

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. She goes, does it dots here

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Speaker 1: mean that that's when you can get pregnant? And I go,

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Speaker 1: who wha, wha, wha wait wait what And so I

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Speaker 1: like look at the app and it's literally I can't

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Speaker 1: get pregnant. And she was like, so I can get

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Speaker 1: pregnant at that time, and I was just like, mom.

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Speaker 2: You can get pregnant through kissing.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, I totally.

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Speaker 2: Know your intention with it. Yeah, sure, it's not something

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Speaker 2: that we would have definitely, I mean I.

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Speaker 1: Probably should have looked to I'm sure there's some that's

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Speaker 1: literally just tracking your period and having yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: didn't even think to, like, you know, when I have

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Speaker 1: to approve the apps that she down downloads, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, cool, sounds good, you know, But I

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Speaker 1: mean I felt but then it was of course. But

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Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, wait, wait, we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about this though, because you cannot trust that that

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because I'm like, you can't

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Speaker 1: trust I'm like, whoever, She's like, so that's the only

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Speaker 1: time you can get pregnant. I was like, no, you

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Speaker 1: can get pregnant at all times. All times.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there is the app I use is called my Days,

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Speaker 2: My Days, and it doesn't have any articles about the

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Speaker 2: ways that.

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Speaker 1: I can say now about the articles that.

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Speaker 2: She's probably mine is great. Mine is like an organ

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Speaker 2: Trail nineteen ninety two version of a period and it's

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Speaker 2: just very like.

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Speaker 1: I just put it in my calendar. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to keep up with hers

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Speaker 1: and mine, but now I'm gonna have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When I thought I was pregnant a couple of

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Speaker 2: months ago, I had downloaded like seven different apps to

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Speaker 2: tell me like the answer that I wanted. The answer

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Speaker 2: I like, how consistent you are a grammar so your

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Speaker 2: personality is my favorite. And I was like, oh, but

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Speaker 2: luckily I've unsubscribed to all of them now minus Flow.

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Speaker 2: I do like flow, so I've kept Flow.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think that's what my kid got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, it's I mean get they get really

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Speaker 2: into like we should share each other's calendar stuff on the.

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Speaker 1: Need to remove it, make sure that it's off of first.

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Speaker 2: But Cat's doing a old tidy enough on that.

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Speaker 1: I actually just got a request from her to download

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Speaker 1: something because I have it to where my kids have to,

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Speaker 1: you know, ask me to download anything. Yes, but I

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Speaker 1: just got something from her. I was like, oh lord,

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Speaker 1: what are we downloading? Now? This was not running.

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Speaker 2: It's very slow of the app downloads, guys. I will

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Speaker 2: tell you though, like a couple of days before now,

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Speaker 2: it's getting pretty intense for me. Uh huh. I took

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Speaker 2: two naps. I don't take naps. I am like I

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Speaker 2: can survive on no sleep. And I took a nap

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Speaker 2: each day, and I thought I almost had to tell

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Speaker 2: you what it was. I almost had a creamer moment

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Speaker 2: where I was like, is something happen?

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Speaker 1: Because I thought I was about to say that sounds

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Speaker 1: more like that.

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Speaker 2: Then it came early, so I thought, oh, oh, so

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Speaker 2: I'm you know. Then I had a headache both days,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're scared. Oh no, not like that.

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Speaker 2: Like I was diagnosing myself with something else. Oh I

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Speaker 2: thought maybe, you thought maybe would be a blessing. It

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Speaker 2: was more like, yeah, I went down to Preston Jana Trio.

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Speaker 1: I mean we all decided that's not a good place

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 2: We can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I texted them one day because I was freaking

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Speaker 1: out about something going on with one of the kids,

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Speaker 1: and they were like.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it, Dad, Oh I can't, Cat, I need

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Speaker 2: you on my team.

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Speaker 1: I went back because I can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's slippery over there. I just the dark side.

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Speaker 2: What they are meaning by is self diagnosing yourself with

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Speaker 2: wiggle with the worst possible outcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't even go You don't start it like a

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Speaker 2: one and work your way up. You start it like

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Speaker 2: a nine. Oh yeah, because it tells you your dying.

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Speaker 1: Who needs doctors?

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Speaker 2: And we have Google exactly. We have a Hunter McGrady

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Speaker 2: coming on. She's a model activist known for being featured

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Speaker 2: on Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue as the curviest woman to

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Speaker 2: hit their pages, and celebrated her sixth appearance with their

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Speaker 2: May issue. She's stunning and also there's a piece of

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Speaker 2: me that's like, I hate that it has to even

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Speaker 2: be like I feel like a thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, Yeah, I want Yeah, that's exactly, Like why

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Speaker 1: does it have to be a plus Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about she should be on the page. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. Okay, so you're an actress,

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Speaker 1: we don't call you a plus size. Like if there's

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Speaker 1: a plus size actress, we don't call them a plus

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Speaker 1: size actress, right, you know what I mean? Like I'm

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Speaker 1: bothered by the whole plus size model thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm like, she's beautiful. Yeah, of course

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Speaker 2: she should be on there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it should have nothing to do a good point.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think about like, oh, you're a plus

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Speaker 2: size act Like, no, I wonder after she's just a model.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I wonder if, like five years from now, we

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Speaker 2: will laugh that we ever used the term plus size.

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Speaker 2: Well it's yeah, because like back in the day, right,

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Speaker 2: there's things that were like how could we even have

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Speaker 2: done that? Correct, Like, it's going to feel very dated

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Speaker 2: that we even use that.

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Speaker 1: They may do they still Yeah, do they fully still

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Speaker 1: use it? Because I mean there's a chance they may not. Now.

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Speaker 1: I would love to ask her more about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious about.

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Speaker 2: That because she's also ranged in sizes right, So I'd

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Speaker 2: love to know just in general, like that feels weird

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Speaker 2: to me to even be pitched as somebody plus sized

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Speaker 2: when really you're just a woman with a body.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: She has a fashion line with QBC all Worthy Behina McGrady.

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Speaker 2: The line is one of the widest ranging in terms

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Speaker 2: of size, in selling trending clothes in sizes double X

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Speaker 2: to five X. And I remember when we were doing

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Speaker 2: the line, it's so hard to to even do exercises

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Speaker 2: because the money and the cost to like have someone

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Speaker 2: like that. Also, like I always felt bad about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why can't we just have them in every sex? Right?

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Speaker 2: But that was super important to you.

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Speaker 1: I know that that was a point that was brought

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Speaker 1: up several times. Yea, and they still like couldn't do

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Speaker 1: they cost more? Which is so interesting. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just I mean you still went up to like

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Speaker 1: two XL I think, but yeah, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of pushback trying to go past that past two XL.

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Speaker 2: It's very frustrating. But I'm interested to see, Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: you make such a good point Kat on all that,

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Speaker 2: So we'll take a break and then we'll get her

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Speaker 2: on an ask her.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, Oh my gosh, there's three of you.

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Speaker 2: Hi, there is we really? We am bush. I don't

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Speaker 2: like to be alone, so I like to have my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you were you were bullied as a child.

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Speaker 5: There was no plus size models when I was sixteen.

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Speaker 5: It just wasn't a thing. There wasn't even like plus

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Speaker 5: And I remember going into a modeling agency and he

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Speaker 2: body needs it the most probably at sixteen. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: just you're stunning, like it doesn't quite matter to me,

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Speaker 5: Know, I really didn't. And it's funny because I put

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Speaker 5: So she always told me you're perfect as you are,

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Speaker 5: After years of therapy and really unlearning all of that,

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Speaker 1: Do those doubts though, ever still or ways that you

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Speaker 5: Like Rome wasn't built in a day, right, You're you're

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Speaker 2: but like you know, comparison, like comparing you from like

433
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: your different friends and like one of your girlfriends, you know,

434
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: was on ozembic and now she's the thinner, thinner one,

435
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: you know, so it's like you're like you compare and

436
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: you try to like be healthy because it's like you

437
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: look amazing, and so it's like.

438
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: It's definitely a mix for me, Like I'm super confident

439
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: and I'm not the person that's like I need to

440
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: be super skinny, Like that's just not that will not

441
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: make me happy. Eating a lot less is not going

442
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: to make me a happy person. I can promise you

443
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: that will make me a much unhappier person. But yeah,

444
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean the comparison thing definitely still creeps in and

445
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: being around people that are skinnier. I just you know,

446
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: it's a balance.

447
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 5: It's weird, it is, and I think that that's kind

448
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 5: of toofold and because we are really very much so

449
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 5: in our ozembic era.

450
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: What is your thoughts on ozembic I'm curious my.

451
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 5: Thoughts are it is. I am so pro women doing

452
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: whatever the hell they want to do with their body.

453
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 5: If you want to take it ticket, you want to

454
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 5: get plastic surgery, get plastic surgery. I cannot sit here

455
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 5: and say I am pro choice and then say, but

456
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 5: you can't do that. That to me is bs right.

457
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 5: But I do always say, just know that the needle

458
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 5: is always going to move. I have so many girlfriends

459
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 5: who are on these you know, GLP one drugs, who

460
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 5: are the needle's constantly moving where they're like, oh, you

461
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 5: know what, if I lose the twenty pounds, I'm finally

462
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 5: going to be happy. And then they lose the twenty

463
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: pounds and then it's you know what, it's five more

464
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 5: and then I'm going to be happy. I'm going to

465
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: go to the beach, I'm going to do all the things.

466
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 5: Then they lose the five more, they're still not happy

467
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 5: because the needle is constantly moving. Because we can lose

468
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 5: all the weight we want and we can do all

469
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 5: the things, but if we don't get here right, none

470
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 5: of it matters.

471
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's not the biggest loser. Everyone always gained. A

472
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: lot of people gain the weight back because they still

473
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: didn't work on what the root of why they were

474
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: still eating and what was what they eat emotionally going through.

475
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we always forget that part, right, Like I

476
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 5: think our mental health is we here in society we

477
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: don't want to talk about that, right because mental health

478
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 5: doesn't make money. But us not loving ourselves and us

479
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: finding every way to change ourselves is the biggest money maker.

480
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 5: You walk into a store and everything around you is

481
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 5: telling you change you know, change your hair color, change

482
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: your nails, do this, wear this. This is a trend now,

483
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 5: So of course we don't want to talk about mental

484
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 5: health in today's society.

485
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: Well you might be our soulmate and the fourth to

486
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: the show with everything you're saying is we love to

487
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: talk about mentally We do. And I also really commend

488
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: you as being part of the movement. I feel like

489
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: there is this younger generation right now that I admire

490
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: so much because I came from the hydroxy cut bolimia anis. Yeah,

491
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: like I mean, it was. It was just really horrible

492
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: and crappy. We didn't do anything well for ourselves. We

493
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: weren't taking great care of ourselves. It was about what

494
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: we could do, you know. Just none of it was

495
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: about like nourishing your body, eating intuitively, exercising, getting strong.

496
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: It was never about being strong about me. It made me,

497
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: until having a baby and being forty, going, oh wait

498
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: a minute, because I would literally go if I was

499
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: too much on a scale, I would not eat. And

500
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: now I know, like as a forty year old woman,

501
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm like wait now, I had to like literally retrain

502
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: my brain to be like no, that's actually not healthy,

503
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: and like you should do weights with this and that

504
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: and then like and eat more calories, you know. So yeah,

505
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: there's so many things that like I had to retrain

506
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: myself at forty frickin years old, but I would like

507
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: starve myself to like have a different number. And I

508
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: love fashion and clothing like a lot, like an unhealthy amount,

509
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: But I love watching people just dress their bodies and

510
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: it get excited about creating their bodies. Like that is

511
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: what I love most about this whole movement, like freaking fine,

512
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: you know.

513
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's for so long, I think women

514
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: in general, we've had so much tact against us, and

515
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 5: there's been so many rules, and then especially with plus

516
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: sized women, it's like don't wear you know, stripes, don't

517
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 5: wear prints, don't wear loud colors, wear only black, like

518
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 5: slim yourself down. And I think it's hard to break

519
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 5: out of that mold and out of that box. But

520
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: it is so fun because I'm the same.

521
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: I love fash.

522
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 5: I mean, can't you tell I'm wearing just a plane beige.

523
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love fashi.

524
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: I'm wearing a plane beige.

525
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: I'm in a black tube tube dress. I mean really,

526
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love everything, and you're like, I guess, yeah,

527
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: we're good.

528
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I think it's it's fun. That's

529
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 5: a way to express yourself. And really quickly you were

530
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 5: saying that at forty you kind of found that that

531
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 5: was kind of like your aha moment. I don't know

532
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: if you guys saw Christy Brinkley on Hoda and Jenna

533
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, but she was saying, Christy freakin'

534
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 5: Brinkley was saying that finally at seventy, she's just now

535
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 5: learning to not give a shit. And this is Christy

536
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: Brinkley who was like, for so many women the blueprint, right, Yeah,

537
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: And she was going on to say that, you know,

538
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 5: for so long, she would be so nervous to go

539
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 5: out in a swimsuit because her body didn't match the

540
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 5: body that was on posters, the edited body of hers, right,

541
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 5: And so she was so scared to do that, and

542
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 5: she would wear her sarong and create her exit plan.

543
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 5: And it's like, Okay, if Christy frickin' Brinkley is feeling

544
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 5: this way, what are we all doing?

545
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: Right?

546
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: Like a.

547
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Freedom at seventy Now she can't match her edited body.

548
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: That just terrifies me. For our kids.

549
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's why I hate filter so much, because I'm like,

550
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: it just is you guys, and we have beautiful, healthy bodies.

551
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: That's just it, right. I do need to ask this

552
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: question because you have hit monumental landmark career moments. I mean,

553
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated it is a big deal to just about everybody.

554
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: So take us back to being twenty two and getting

555
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: your debut and Sports Illustrated, and then I need the

556
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: moment that you get the cover call yeah, because this,

557
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean this is huge, Hunter, This is like thank

558
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 2: you think about all the women before you, Yeah, and

559
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: like how how you saw that one cover? Someone saw

560
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: that cover of you, and you're gonna be that person

561
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: for them, and you've joined this elite cover girl society.

562
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean you guys. Growing up, I wanted to be

563
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: a cover girl.

564
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: Same.

565
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: I know you're our cover girl.

566
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: I know.

567
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

568
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: So it's a sleepover a moment where you just tell

569
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: us everything.

570
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: I know, it's so fun. I feel like I literally

571
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: I could just retell the story over and over because

572
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 5: it's I'm still it's such a Pinchrey moment. But I

573
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 5: started when I was twenty two, I just moved to

574
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 5: New York and I was like, I got a phone

575
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: call from my agent and she was like, can you

576
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: be downtown in fifteen minutes? Mjday wants to meet you.

577
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: And MJ's at editor in chief of Sports Illustrated. She's

578
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 5: responsible for the last decade and some change of the

579
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: change that we have seen as Sports Illustrated. And I

580
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 5: was like, surely I can be down there. I was

581
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: literally in leggings and a sweater and my hair was up,

582
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 5: not what I would have imagined to where the Sports

583
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: Illustrated but alas. So I get in there and she

584
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 5: basically was like, do you want to shoot with us?

585
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: You would be shooting body paint in Anguilla. And I

586
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: was like, pull my leg fine, yes, So they flew

587
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: me out to Anguilla. I shot in body paint. I

588
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: was one of the last girls to ever shoot body paint,

589
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 5: which was absolutely iconic. It took twelve hours to do.

590
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 5: Like my call time was two am. We wrapped at

591
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: two pm and then we shot for like two hours

592
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: and so that was amazing. And then she honestly has

593
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: asked me back every single year since, even when I

594
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: was pregnant with both of my baby I had. I

595
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 5: was slated to shoot when I was pregnant with my son,

596
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 5: but unfortunately the night, like I was there at the

597
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: hotel the next day I was going to shoot, my

598
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: brother had passed away, so I had to end up

599
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: flying back home to Los Angeles and I gave birth

600
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 5: seven weeks later, and then with my second child, she

601
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: also asked me and I was like, I'm giving birth

602
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 5: in six weeks, like I can't. And I also had

603
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: a little PTSD, and she's just she's been such a

604
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 5: champion for me ever since. And this year, you know

605
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: when I never would have thought I would have been

606
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: on the sixtieth anniversary cover ever, and it was the

607
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 5: Legends issue, which they named me one of the Legends,

608
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: which was very cool. And I was doing a fitting

609
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 5: with my stylist in my house and all of a sudden,

610
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: she said, oh, I have to go grab something downstairs.

611
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 5: Courier just dropped off more of the outfit options and

612
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: I was like, okay. I didn't think anything of it.

613
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 5: She called me down and was like, can you come

614
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: help me. It's actually bigger than I thought. I walked

615
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 5: downstairs and out from my I have like a little

616
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 5: sun room comes MJ, a camera crew and a girl

617
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: who her assistant, who's holding a huge bouquet of flowers,

618
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: and it's just her holding my cover and I just

619
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: absolutely broke down.

620
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: I was crying with you.

621
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so special. It was like I replay

622
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: it every day in my head.

623
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I feel like, well, I also love that they make

624
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: it special. I think that sometimes in those industries, you know,

625
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: the things that happen and become kind of like commonplace

626
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: in that world, they sometimes can forget how the human

627
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: experience is so still needed. So I love that she

628
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: took the time to make it that moment. Obviously. I mean,

629
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: you could have been like in the line at CVS

630
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: and gotten a call and it would have been monument.

631
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: It would have been the moment. But it's celebrated and like,

632
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: thoroughly see you in that moment also matters.

633
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't agree more. I couldn't agree more.

634
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: They really made it just so memorable, so memorable.

635
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: I love that. And now you have your podcast, Model Citizen,

636
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: and then your clothing line. Where can people find your

637
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: clothing line?

638
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: Is it the clothing line?

639
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

640
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: It is on QBC. So I have a clothing line

641
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: with QBC. They're still on there. And then I have

642
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 5: my podcast with my sister called The Model Citizen Podcasts

643
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: and we drop every Thursday. And yeah, it's a really

644
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: fun girly podcast. Again, it's like a sleepover. We talk

645
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: about everything and anything and quite literally nothing is off limits.

646
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's not safe for work, but it's a really

647
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: really fun listen.

648
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Boy, do I get that. I know sometimes I'm.

649
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: Like, please, don't listen to this with your children around,

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Speaker 5: like not even in your shot.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that feels fair. I love that. Well, thank

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00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: you so much for coming on. You are just a

653
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Speaker 2: breath of fresh air. So thank you so much for

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: coming on and sharing yourself.

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Speaker 1: Thanks girls, good bye Hunter bye girl. I love her.

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00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: She's so sweet.

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00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: She's just done beautiful.

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00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: I love though. I feel like there's a different radiance

659
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: when people are mentally whole or more whole, with a

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Speaker 2: different kind of beauty and ease. Beautiful. Yeah, just I

661
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Speaker 2: just the ease of being oneself and knowing oneself.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't even bother her that it's called plus size,

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Speaker 1: like she phones it like all the like, just all

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Speaker 1: the beautiful confidence. I love it so much.

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Speaker 2: What a gift thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Girls. Women need to see that older than her need

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Speaker 1: to see that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I can't believe christ superrinklely like I can imagine,

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Speaker 2: like I hope, Oh my god, I almso can't believe

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Speaker 2: she's seventy. Do some people some celebrities live forever at

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Speaker 2: one age in my brain?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah no. Actually, Alan and I were watching that

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Speaker 2: Selene documentary and he was like, how old is she?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I think she's in her fifties.

676
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Speaker 2: But he was like, no, but she does.

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Speaker 1: You know, she says that way to me too.

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Speaker 2: She's in her fifties.

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Speaker 1: Same, but she's in her fifties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's fifty.

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Speaker 1: Second, I thought she was sixty something.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the docu was the way of the documentary. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was like, no makeup and stuff, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean she was yeah, yeah, I was a tear jerker.

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Speaker 2: Oh I bet so sad. I was like, I had

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Speaker 2: to turns off.

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Speaker 1: Did you not watch the end?

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00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: I haven't finished it yet because it was just so

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Speaker 2: heavy heavy that I was just so heavy.

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Speaker 1: I today ending is like super heavy and then just

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Speaker 1: kind of ends too.

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Speaker 2: No closure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no closure to really be had you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But no, not really.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but really guarding hard what goes into this brain

696
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Speaker 2: right now? I am like really struggling with anxiety higher again,

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Speaker 2: so I have to be like I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know hormones probably oh really yeah, but I like

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Speaker 2: I have to be I am like the filter in

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Speaker 2: which everything's going through. I mean, I'm in Eat, Prey

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Speaker 2: Love l Woods, Like I need to like really watch this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's why you're on her. The other night I

703
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, can't do that. Okay, I to watch

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Speaker 2: that right now. I just stick to tires if I

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Speaker 2: were you, Yeah, yeah, it's always smart. Yeah okay, Well

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Speaker 2: I love you guys.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: See you next week for a really fun episode, if

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Bye. B