1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Batter Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: We are back today with another episode. We are going 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: to have Leslie on the podcast, but before we do, 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: we're going to do a little five minute recap because 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: they've changed the show a little bit midway, which we 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of knew was coming. We didn't know five hundred 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars was going to be on the table, but 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: now that it is, let's talk about it. 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. We haven't been doing our recaps 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: because there's been so many contestants to talk about via interviews, 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: and we hope you guys have been loving that. But 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: we want to share some of our thoughts on what's 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: been going on this season, and we feel like with 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: the introduction of the game component, this is a perfect 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: time to do so. So, Joe, what do you think? 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I enjoy it? I mean, I love the idea of 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: adding the money element into the show because now we 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: get to see like who's really into each other and 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: who is somewhat full of shift Because when it comes 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: down to it, I'm assuming I don't know, but I 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: would assume there's gonna be an element where it's like 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: either you're gonna choose the person or you're gonna choose 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the money. That's where my head's at. And now like 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: it's almost like we're getting now they really have to 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: like real time solve problems and like work together because 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: they both like five hundred grand's a lot of money. 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: If it was like whatever, if it was, I mean, 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money to win. 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: That's life changing money. It's not like it's you know, 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: five k not that that's not you know, significant, but 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: it's not five hundred thousand. 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like it's not gonna make me, you know, 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: question love or money if it's five thousand, Like I'm 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: gonna go for love. But like I think five thousand dollars, 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars can really you know, make some 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: people sit and think what they really want to do. 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it comes in the play of like 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand is life changing for most people except 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: for Kim, who don't give a fuck, which was awesome. 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: Kim was like, I don't care about the money. 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm literally just here to find love. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: For most people, it is so when it comes down 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: to it, you know, I think you may have to, 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna sit there and think like, oh, well, 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: i've known this person for two and a half weeks, 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: three weeks? Will they flip on me for the money? 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: Like? 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Should I be flipping on them? 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: From them? 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: But we don't know if it's gonna get that. 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: We don't. 54 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: We're just speculating right now. Obviously it's teams of two, 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: So if one couple wins, does that mean that they 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: split the money? Does that mean that they compete against 57 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: each other? Does that mean one of them gets it? 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: So there's definitely still some unknowns at play here with 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: this new format. I feel like when the season started 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 2: with so many changes, it felt a little bit overwhelming, 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: And now a few episodes in, there's obviously a few 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: things I missed just because I'm nostalgic and sentimental from 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: being on the original Paradise, But there's a lot that 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I really like about it and I'm enjoying and things 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: that I'm glad they changed. So I feel like with 66 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: this first episode with the money and the competition element, 67 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: I'm still kind of settling in to the new format 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: I feel like and developing an opinion on it. But 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: I will say I really liked this first game. I 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: thought it was kind of the perfect balance of light 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: and fun but also still very telling and revealing and 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: putting these couples to the test. Like that's what I 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: want the games to do, Like I want to stir 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: up a little I don't know, like drama about the couples. 75 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: And we see that with Parisa and Brian right away, 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: like it's not going well and they're basically like, are 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: we not a good couple? And it's fun because it's 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: in line with the fact that they've been having a 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: lot of arguments throughout the show. 80 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they seem to have a lot of issues. Pretty 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: early on, we do see Jeremy takes a big bet, 82 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: which I enjoyed watching, Like that was fun. 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: That was shocking to me. I was so stressed watching that, 84 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: but I mean it paid off, so I have to 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: respect it. 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if he knew. I wonder if they knew, 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: and I don't think they did. 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: His interview made it seem like he had no idea. 89 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: But then Bailey's that's that's not where I was going. 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, No, I don't know obviously talking so how 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: would you know? 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Sorry? 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Proceeed, Okay, Uh. My point was, I don't I wonder 94 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: if they knew that they were going to have the 95 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: power to eliminate someone before. 96 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't believe they did. 97 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so either. So that's in so 98 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: that makes it even a bigger risk. Like I could 99 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I could see taking that risk 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: knowing that you're going to get the power, But taking 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: that risk solely for a date or potentially going home 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: is a pretty big risk. 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that the best position in those games, 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: in my opinion at this point is like Dale and 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: Kat where they came in second, so they're safe, right, 106 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: Like they're in the top three, they don't get the date, 107 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: but like they're high, they're safe. 108 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. So but also it's. 109 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: Like, hey, if you want the date, sure, obviously the 110 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: date's great, but then you're also in the position to 111 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: have to send someone home and you're not really flying 112 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: under the radar once you do that. I mean, Jeremy 113 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: was living for it. He was like, give me all 114 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: the power. I love that I could to send someone home. 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: But like someone like Mail, someone like Bailey might have 116 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: been like, I'm good to just be safe. I don't 117 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: want that kind of responsibility, Like that's way too hard 118 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: to do it. So I'm curious to see how that 119 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: element of winning the challenges impacts the games moving forward. 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: You're you actually make a good point, because I didn't 121 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: think about like flying under the radar, and like Jeremy 122 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: is clearly not going to be flying under the radar 123 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: now because he was very vocal about like well in 124 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: his interviews about like having the power and but like 125 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: if it gets flipped now and he's in the bottom three, 126 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: like I would vote, I would most likely be voting 127 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: them out like I would be. 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: I would be because they're a threat. You know that 129 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: they're good at the competitions, They've won one. 130 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: I would be trying to vot out like I think 131 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: they probably should have voted out Brian and Parsa. 132 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to know more insight into why 133 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: and how they made that decision, just because I don't 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: feel like it was clear to me. 135 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Well it's yeah, and now it's it is now a 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: game and I'm not keeping people because they have a 137 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: strong connection. I'm like, I'm trying to win five hundred 138 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: thousand now, Like. 139 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sending people home that I think can beat me. Yeah, respectfully. 140 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean everyone's coupled up, so it's kind of an 141 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: even playing field. It seems like, yes, a couple of 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: the relationships are stronger than others, but like, no one's 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: flying single. I mean, if Jonathan and Leah they're the 144 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: only people that are coupled up that aren't a couple, 145 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm probably keeping them because I'm like, you're probably not 146 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: going to do that great at these challenges because you're 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: not actually romantically involved. But then on the flip, they're 148 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: just friends, so maybe they'll work better together than like 149 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: a Paris and Brian, who are having issues in the 150 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: world relationship. 151 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would probably actually be more scared 152 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: of two that are just friends because if they could 153 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: get on the same page and really work. 154 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Together, Yeah, they can just be partners without any romantic 155 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: issues involved. 156 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it in especially because it's like the 157 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: beginning of relationship. You're learning about somebody, you could really 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: start getting annoyed with that person, where if you're just friends, 159 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: you guys are basically co workers trying to win some money. 160 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Last thing we'll talk about before we let leslie in, Gary, 161 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: like like talk about just fumbling the bag. 162 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Well and they went home because of it. I know, 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: had he just bet one chip or two chips, he 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: would have stayed safe in the top three and they'd 165 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: still be there. 166 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't really, I don't really understand what I mean, 167 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Like I get when you make them, I get like 168 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: people make mistakes. 169 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it was obviously a genuine mistake. 170 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: He did not. 171 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: I think he was trying to make it dramatic and 172 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: be like ooh, like I'm he like splits his stack 173 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: and he's contemplay. You can see everyone being like, dude, 174 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like, I just don't think it 175 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: was clicking in his mind. What he was doing did 176 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: not make sense. 177 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it made zero sense. And I 178 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: just think, Yeah, I think Gary like likes the dramatics, 179 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: the dramatics and being on TV and like watching He 180 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: probably watched Jeremy make a big bet. He's like, ooh, 181 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I wanna I want to spice things up, and it's like, no, yeah. 182 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: There's some moments TV, Gary, this was not one of them. 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: Just throw your single chip down and call it today. 184 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm curious if Leslie was able to We'll 185 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: ask her when she comes on the episode. Right now, 186 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: if she was able to voice her opinion when he 187 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: was doing that, or was she supposed to stay quiet 188 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: in the back, because like, I feel like me and 189 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: you right, like if it was if it was if 190 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: it was me doing that, you would be like, Joe, 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: just bat one, chip, what the fuck are you doing? 192 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: And then maybe it would click like oh yeah. 193 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: But I feel like they can't because if she's saying 194 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: just bet one ship, it's essentially saying you don't know 195 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: the answer and you're probably gonna get it wrong. 196 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: She probably can't. Yeah, she probably can't. 197 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm curious to know if Gary and Leslie are still 198 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: talking to one another, if anything has happened post Paradise 199 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: for them, and if she blames Gary for them being 200 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: sent home and why she thinks they were sent home. 201 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: Well, she definitely blames him for me sent home. She 202 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: said to me, it's his fault. And she said in 203 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: an interview, She's like, everyone makes mistakes, so I can't 204 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: be mad at him, but this was a big mistake. Yeah, 205 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: and it kind of was. 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: I do feel a little bad for Gary because that 207 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: would just really weigh on me and I would feel 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: really guilty and just kind of silly. 209 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I feel bad for Gary in a 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: sense of he probably feels really bad that he let 211 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: another person down on accident, like he made a mistake. 212 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just him that suffers. 213 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, partner too. Yeah, Which that's a hard pill the swallow. 214 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes, but adds a really good layer to the competition 215 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: element of this show. 216 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 217 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Great, loved it, entertaining. Great job Gary. Okay, let's let 218 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: should we let Leslie in? Yeah, let's do it, all right, Leslie. 219 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Batter Happy Hour. How are you? 220 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: I'm good? 221 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? Welcome back. You've been on 222 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: the show multiple times. Unfortunately you got to eliminate it. 223 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Not really not really your fault, but we will. We 224 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: will definitely talk about that. Yeah, let's go to the 225 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: beginning though. How did it feel when you first got 226 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: out to Paradise, you know, it's a new, new format, 227 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: new location. Where you regretting it at all? Or were 228 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: you happy to be there? 229 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: Oh? I never regretted a minute of it. I was 230 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: so excited. You know, they took us all on that boat. 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: That animal ran was our entrance. I actually didn't know 232 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: they just took us and I was like, is this 233 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: another photo shoot? What are we doing? I didn't even know. 234 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, we're going now. In fact, I missed the 235 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: memo that I was supposed to be all packed up, 236 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: and they come get me and they're like, you're not packed. 237 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: I said, well, why do I need to be packed? 238 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: I literally thought we were doing another photo shoot. I 239 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on. But then all of 240 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: a sudden, we're on this boat and we're having so 241 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: much fun. And I had not met the guys before, 242 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: so that was kind of fun to meet them. And yeah, 243 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: and then we walked into Paradise and all these I 244 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: always called the young ins, but they were sitting around 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: and they were so excited to see us. I don't 246 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: think they were pretending, especially the girls. They were very excited. 247 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: And immediately we felt like this bond. So it was amazing. 248 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: That's good, That's yeah. I mean it looked like a 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: lot of fun. 250 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: How did you feel about coming in a few days 251 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: later than the original cast? 252 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: Well, I was okay, So, like I kind of knew 253 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: who was going to be there prior to going on. 254 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: Of course, you hear this person's going, this person's going. 255 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: So I walk in and I say, where's Susie, where's 256 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: Eli Joe, where's Lexi? You know, and did they not 257 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: come yet? And they're like they left last night And 258 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: I was like what because I had you know, Susie 259 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: I was on her podcast before and she's a doll. 260 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: And Lexi we were had been dming ever since she 261 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: was on her show and she's a doll and co 262 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: wait to meet her. And then Ali Joe we were 263 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: like going to work out on the beach together. We 264 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: were like bringing bringing bands, I'm bringing balls, like we 265 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: had this whole thing and I'm like, wait what They're gone. 266 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: So that was a little shocking to me. 267 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, how was the mood amongst the rest of the cast, 268 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: because that was a pretty. 269 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you guys came here right after that dramatic 270 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: rose ceremony with Susie and justin my mood was not good. 271 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 272 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: I mean we walk in it was like you could 273 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: hear a pin drop, Like there's like we're walking and 274 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: you kind of you know, we're walking around the path 275 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: and there's no talking, there's no you know, music, there's 276 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: no music not going, but like there's no energy and 277 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they're just kind of sitting around 278 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: the bar like this and we walk in They're like hi, 279 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: So it was kind of fun. 280 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, But you guys probably really saved them 281 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: because their energy was definitely low. I'm seeing so much 282 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: on social media that the Goldens are like making paradise, 283 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: like everybody is loves watching you guys. Yeah, how does 284 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: that feel? 285 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: It feels amazing. I mean, I guess maybe it stems 286 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: from the fact that we just don't care, you know. 287 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I know I'm speaking you know, for myself 288 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: and maybe some of the others. I just don't care. 289 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: I don't care what my hair looks like. I don't 290 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: I don't care if I don't have any makeup on, 291 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: I mean, or I don't care what we say or 292 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: do or you know. I guess we just don't care 293 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: as much. And maybe that's why because we come off 294 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: pretty authentic and nothing's really forced. And if I roll 295 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: my eyes as something, it doesn't mean I'm mad at something, 296 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, like I have, but you know, it's just 297 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: my facial expressions. But I just, you know, I get 298 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: where they're coming from. I mean, you know, they definitely 299 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: I always say, it's their show, and you know their cake. 300 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Maybe we were just the icing on it. That's how 301 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: my mindset was, and so that's kind of my That 302 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: was what I felt going into the show, and I 303 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: stayed that way throughout. 304 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the Golden cast that you think 305 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: does care and when I meet care what I mean Kieren, 306 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: like really care how they are portrayed? 307 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: I think there are yes, Okay, absolutely, I just don't 308 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: know why I don't care. 309 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: So that's good. 310 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: Going into Paradise, did you have any guys that you 311 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: were interested in or any like sparks right off the 312 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: bat when you got down there, Well. 313 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: There was no sparks for me. With the guys that 314 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: we met on the boat. They were like I could 315 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: see that we're all going to be fast friends and 316 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: you know, and I'll call them my friends. 317 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: Now, do you think if Gary was on the boat 318 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: you may have felt a certain way about him or 319 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: do you think because he came down later and you 320 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't feel a spark between any of the other guys 321 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: that created something that may or may not have been there? 322 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: Good question. Well, I mean Gary and I met each 323 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: other at Grant's finale because we were announce Yeah, so 324 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: I had met him, but that was all. I didn't 325 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: text him after we didn't we didn't communicate at all 326 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: because you know, I just didn't want to do that. 327 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: So I feel that out of all the guys, Gary 328 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: and I definitely have a lot in common with our music, 329 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: the way we kind of grew up in a musical family, 330 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: all that stuff, and a little bit more in common 331 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: with him than I did with the other guys. So 332 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: I probably, I don't know. I think it's good that 333 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: he came down a couple days later, to be honest, 334 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: you know, got a time to settle in and not 335 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: you know, realize that there for me, there was no 336 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: sparks with anyone else. 337 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Got it? 338 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: What was the vibe like when Gary did come down 339 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: the next day? He comes in with a lot of energy, 340 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: He makes an entrance, he has a day card. Was 341 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: there a lot of women that were interested in going 342 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: on that date? 343 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: I think I know Natasha wanted to go on the date. 344 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to go on the date. I'm not sure 345 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: about Kathy she was probably she was kind of more 346 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 3: focused on Keith. So yeah, I mean, I don't know. 347 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if April want I'm sure April want 348 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: have turned it down, So that was you know, I 349 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: guess it was really maybe more between Natasha and I. 350 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on with Kathy and Keith? Well, let 351 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: me ask a more specific question on the beach. As 352 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: a viewer, right now, it looks like they started off 353 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: with potentially a spark. They go to the VIP suite, 354 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: and now it feels like maybe it's a little bit 355 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: more of a friendship. When you left, where would you 356 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: say they were at on the scale of just friends 357 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: to madly in love? 358 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: I think I think just friends right now when I left. 359 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: The thing is, it's like you know, at our age, 360 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: relationships come in different forms, and they definitely have a 361 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: good relationship, whether they decide to make it romantic or not. 362 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: I think, you know, they have a good friendship. 363 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So let's let's talk about the rose ceremony. 364 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: You go on a date with Gary. It goes well, 365 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: you are going to give Gary your rose, at least 366 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: that's how it appears as a viewer. Uh, And then 367 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: Natasha gives Gary the rose, he accepts it. What is 368 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: going through your mind in that moment? 369 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: Who the hell am I going to pick? Yeah? 370 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? And are you going are you upset at Gary 371 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: for accepting Natasha's rose, Like, does Gary know that he's getty? 372 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: Does Gary have a good idea that you're giving him 373 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: his rose? 374 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: I would think he did. 375 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it seemed. 376 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: I mean we had a great day. We I literally 377 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: laughed our asses off. We had so much fun. Everything 378 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: was just completely the way it looked. I mean it 379 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: was raining, we kicked I kicked my shoes off. We 380 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: were having so much fun. We had no awkwardness, no 381 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: down time. I mean, we just had great time. So yeah, 382 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: I would think he would think I was giving him 383 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: my rose. I guess I didn't even think he shouldn't 384 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: have accepted it. Well, now you have that, now I 385 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: had not just kidding, I'm gonna have to call him up. No, 386 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you know, you're in the 387 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: you know how it is, you're in the moment. You 388 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: don't it's just like you don't know. I didn't know 389 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: that Natasha was going to be called first, so I 390 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: didn't think outside of that, and I was really didn't 391 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: know who to pick. 392 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were in a really tough and I mean 393 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: in Gary's defense, because I'm trying to put myself in 394 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: his shoes, because I would assume he's standing there thinking 395 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: Leslie's gonna go up and I'm going to accept her rose. 396 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: Maybe he was like, oh, maybe Leslie's gonna give her 397 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: rose to someone else, Like maybe they've already talked and 398 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm missing something now. But yeah, so he accept Natasha's rose. 399 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: How do you stand up there and make your decision? 400 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: It was a hard one. I stood there thinking kind 401 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: of knew some of the girls that were coming. Maybe 402 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 3: I had an idea who was maybe joining Paradise, and 403 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: I thought, well, maybe Kim would like this girl, or 404 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: maybe this girl would like Kim. I was trying to 405 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: like do max making as I'm standing there, because I 406 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: was not interested in him like that at all. And 407 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: you know, but that's where my mind was going. 408 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: He seemed to me putting himself out there with you 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: a little bit to test the waters. Did it feel 410 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: flirtatious from him at all? 411 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: Hmmm? I don't think So. 412 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: That's a no. That is a for sure. Now, Okay, okay, 413 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: So you and Gary Base, it seems like, you know, 414 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: you guys kind of go back like after that rose ceremony, 415 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: you guys go back to normal and Natasha doesn't really 416 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: even seem to be in the picture with Gary romantically. 417 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: Is that I feel like. 418 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: She was still kind of putting herself out there. At 419 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: breakfast the next morning, I. 420 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: Think she was putting herself out there, but it just 421 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: seemed like Gary went, you know, straight back to you. 422 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: Is that is that correct? 423 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 424 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Okay? And then you. 425 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 3: Guys, did I did go up to him at breakfast. 426 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: I don't think I said it in front of Natasha, 427 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: did I did say? I just want you to know 428 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: that if that had been called first, of course, I 429 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 3: would have given you my rolls. And I actually, after 430 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: Kim read me the poem, I said, Kim, I appreciate 431 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: the poem so much, Just so you know. If I 432 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: had been called first, I would have been Gary my Rose. 433 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 3: But I chose you because I thought you added to 434 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: our group. That's what I said. Okay, how did he 435 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: take that? Fine? I thought? I mean, I think he 436 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: was like, I understand, I understand. I totally get it. 437 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: I totally get it. I just wanted to be honest. 438 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: I didn't want to go there trying to play games 439 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: and and make mom. Yeah, and plus it's I mean, 440 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: it's hard when you're not chosen. Yeah, it's hard. 441 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: So did you ever have a conversation with Natasha about 442 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: this little love triangle that you were in with Gary? No, okay, 443 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: she never came up to you and said, like, you know, 444 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: I knew, I know that you were going to give 445 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 2: him your rose, but I want to explore also. 446 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 3: Well, I think we had talked about it a little 447 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: bit because we didn't know who was going to go first. 448 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: But I, first of all, I'm not going to tell 449 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: Natasha who she can pick or who she can't pick. 450 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say since I went on a 451 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: date with Gary, I'm giving him my rose because I 452 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: felt I felt like it was still early on and 453 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: I didn't want her to, I don't know, explore her 454 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: journey with him, and I just you know, Natasha and 455 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: I were a little bit contentious in the house and 456 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor, just a teeny bit, and we did have 457 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: some a great conversation in Paradise. I really respected her 458 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: and got to know her story and had a new 459 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: really a new found love for her, and so I 460 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: definitely didn't want to It's her journey too, who she's there, 461 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to step on her toes and 462 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: you know. 463 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. Again, it's kind of like, you know 464 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: what it's it's Gary's a big boys. It's on him 465 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: to make, uh make that decision? 466 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. 467 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: And then we see Gary. Gary's the guy down there, 468 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: you know he now now Nancy's down and him and her, 469 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Gary go on a date and they have an outer 470 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: body experience on chocolate, which I. 471 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: Don't know il nightly. You know, I have dark chocolate whatever, 472 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: and I don't get high from it, but maybe there's 473 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: something in there. 474 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, So Gary like, well, we we actually 475 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: interviewed Gary a while back, and I remember him saying 476 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: that he was really interested in Nancy, or like or 477 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: being interested in Nancy. You know, the viewers end up 478 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: seeing like he picks you. How so, like, where was 479 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: your head at after the Nancy date and how did 480 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: that go down? 481 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: Well, Nancy made it clear to everybody, like she she 482 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: announced before she went on the date, to us all 483 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: that were sitting there. I just want you to know 484 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: that Gary and I have been talking a lot, and 485 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: you know, we we have a history. So that's why 486 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: I picked him. And I'm like, okay, I mean, you 487 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: can pick. 488 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: Wherever you want, you know, like before the show they 489 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: were talking. 490 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so maybe maybe more dming or texting. 491 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, but she'd said we have a history. 492 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: So I was kind of taken aback a little bit 493 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: because I didn't know that happened. And although Kathy did 494 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: tell me numerous times that Gary's only here for Nancy, 495 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: so I did hear that a lot. But then when 496 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: Nancy came, I mean, they had a history, and of 497 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: course she's going to ask him out on a date. 498 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: And you know, again, I'm not claiming anyone at this point, 499 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: and no one, none of us are. None of the 500 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: Goldens are claiming people. And so you know, I hope 501 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: you have fun and I hope he picks me for 502 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: the rest of their money. What can I say? I 503 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, Oh, I mean we're all friends 504 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: and we're you know, it's a weird position to be in. 505 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: But again, I we didn't know if like there were 506 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: going to be new people coming. We didn't know anything. 507 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: So I'm you know, again, Gary has a doll, really 508 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: respected him as a friend. We had a great date, 509 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 3: and it's his journey too, So. 510 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: I don't know, is it weird that You've been on 511 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: two Bachelor shows and both times you've dated a guy 512 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: named Gary. 513 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: I know, and our finale was in Costa Rica, and 514 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: then bachel on Paradise is in Costa Rica. 515 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is weird, A lot of dejeville. 516 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: After Gary goes on a date with Nancy, do you 517 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: ask him about their relationship prior to the show? 518 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: Let me think, I don't. I don't know. I don't 519 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: know if I did, I might have. I think we 520 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: sat down and had a conversation about it a little bit, 521 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: and you know, I did bring up the fact that 522 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: they have the same faith, and you know, I'm Jewish 523 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: and he's Christian and does that play something into his whatever? 524 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 3: And he said, no, I dated a Jewish women before. 525 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: No. 526 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: So I you know, I think we had a conversation 527 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: like that, but I don't. I don't really remember me saying, 528 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: you know, did you have a strong connection with Nancy before? 529 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: I don't think I asked him that. 530 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And then he ends up giving you the rose. 531 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Was that to be expected? Or were you shocked? 532 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: No? I mean I packed, you know, I was ready 533 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: to go. I figured he's got three choices you know, 534 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: and I don't know what he's going to do. Of 535 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: course he's he didn't come up to me like giving 536 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: you the road, you know, Like I didn't know. And 537 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: you know, again, I don't know how their date went. 538 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: I don't know their conversations that they had. We weren't 539 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: really hanging out with the guys that day, so you know, 540 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 541 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: That's interesting because I feel like with a lot of 542 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: the younger cast, most people know, like even like even 543 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: our experience in Paradise, like unless there was a love triangle, 544 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: which at times there was, but for the most part, 545 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I like. 546 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: I have a pretty good idea how this is. 547 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: Going to be, Yeah, like there's an acknowledgment or. 548 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: If it was gonna even if it was going to 549 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: be like a friendship rose like yeah, but with Gary 550 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: even watching it, I mean, I didn't think he was 551 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: going to give his ROAs to Natasha, but I wasn't 552 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: sure if he was going to give his rose to 553 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: you or Nancy, knowing that there had been a history 554 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: with Gary and Nancy, right, I think if I was 555 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: in your shoes, I would probably expect him to give 556 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: it to her. Yeah, but maybe That just speaks to 557 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: how strong your connection was. 558 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: Well, I knew what we had. I knew that our 559 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: connection was really strong, and I knew our date was amazing. 560 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: I had no idea what they were doing. In fact, 561 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: when they came back and said they they were like, oh, 562 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: we had cakau. I had gone to sleep, so I 563 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: wasn't in even I didn't know, you know, so I 564 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: was trying to remember what Joe said that he tried 565 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: to get as much sleep as he could. Remember you 566 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: told me that before Paradise was so like, I'm like, 567 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to bed. I can't do this, you know, 568 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: So I just I didn't know. I didn't know until 569 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 3: the next day. I didn't even know. Like you know, Nancy, 570 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: I said, how was your dater? Maybe asked her and 571 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: she goes great, Like, so, you know, I didn't know. 572 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Gary makes some unpredictable last minute decisions, as we see 573 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: in this episode, which unfortunately leads the both of you 574 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: to go home. It's it's pretty tough to watch because 575 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: you're watching it like Gary, this makes literally no sense. Yeah, 576 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: my first question is were you able I'm assuming you 577 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: were not, but were you able to vocalize like hey, like, 578 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: don't put half our stack again, oh said. 579 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: And he just well, I said this because we were 580 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: all sitting together when I was seeing what was going 581 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: on with that lightning round, and I whispered to him, 582 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: I said, if you don't no unequivocally the answer, like 583 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: if they ask you how many grandchildren I have, put 584 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: the whole thing in, because you know how many grandchildren 585 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: I have. But if you don't know the answer, just 586 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: don't bet a lot because we're up there. 587 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 588 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: But like a typical man, he did not listen to me. 589 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: Is that like, what what do you think was going 590 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: through his head? Because I mean he's splitting his stack, 591 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 2: he's looking back and forth. I mean, he clearly is 592 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: not putting together that all he has to do is 593 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: throw one or two chips down and it's not gonna matter. 594 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna be safe, which is. 595 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: Crazy to be back with Bailey and Jeremy. 596 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: Literally Yeah, And I do you think he thought he 597 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: could catch up to Bailey and Jeremy. 598 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 599 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: He saw move and he wanted to make a dramatic 600 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: move like it just doesn't make sense watching it. 601 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: You know, because I'm thinking, I don't know if you 602 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: didn't understand, this is only for a date. Whoever wins this, 603 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: it's for a date, and we need to be safe. 604 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: We've already had an amazing date, you know. So I'm oh, 605 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: I was like up there and and I'm thinking, and 606 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: I kind of said, like the questions. There is a 607 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: whole bunch of questions. And it's not like they didn't 608 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: let us talk to each other. You know, we're sending 609 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: next to each other. And one question there was another 610 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: question I think about sex with one of the young 611 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: ns or something, and I did say to him that's 612 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: a lot or something like that, that's a lot A 613 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: lot of times there's something And I'm like, did you 614 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: get that hint? I mean, come on, sixty six is 615 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: oh give me a break, giving me way too much credit. 616 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: So I I, oh, you guys, it was hard, but 617 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: you know. 618 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: He was mistakes. Yeah, I mean people make mistakes. Have 619 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: you have you and Gary a like what's your status 620 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: now because you guys wore technically dating on the show. 621 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: Like are you still talking or have you have you 622 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: spoken since? 623 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, we talk all the time. We talk. We 624 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: were at the premiere together watching the show in La 625 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: Gary is I can honestly say right now, one of 626 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: my best friends, I mean, he is you know, I'll 627 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: call him if I have a problem. He kind of 628 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: talks me off the ledge a little bit, and we 629 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: are always there for each other. We have each other's back. 630 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, because we haven't spent time together and 631 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: we live in two separate cities. I don't know what 632 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: it could be. All I know is that, you know, 633 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: for me, a big thing with any relationship, a romantic 634 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: one for sure, is I want to be friends first 635 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: because I want to be with my best friend, you know, 636 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: growing older, and so that is a huge thing for me. 637 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: And I don't know what it's going to be, but 638 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: I know that we have special places in our hearts 639 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: for each other. And that's all I can say right now. 640 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, last question, did he tell you why 641 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: he got his ships like that is there? Did he 642 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: give you a reason yet? Like, is there an explanation 643 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: for this? 644 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: No? I think he just I don't know. He beat 645 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: himself up enough after that where I you know, I didn't. 646 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 3: I think I said I told you so once, but 647 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: I certainly wasn't going to do it more than that 648 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: because I could see he was visibly shaken and upset, 649 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: and I'm sure he was thinking, why did I do that? 650 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: Why did I do that? You know, listen, I have 651 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: a family member that went through treatment for gambling addiction, 652 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: and if he's not a good gambler, that's okay with me. 653 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's worse things like. 654 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: It could be worse, you know what. We left the 655 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: show together. I deently broken hearted. I didn't embarrass my 656 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: children or my grandchildren. I didn't do any body shots, 657 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: and so I feel like I left the show in 658 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: a good space for me. 659 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: How did you feel when they switched the format? 660 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 3: And yeah, that was weird. 661 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: I my petition money element. 662 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the money element to me was kind of not 663 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: a big deal. And again I go back to this 664 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 3: is the young inst It's their show, and I certainly 665 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to take that away from them, you know. 666 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: But it was a little different. I mean, we knew 667 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: that this was it, like we were coupled up. Now 668 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 3: there's no people coming and going, so that kind of 669 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: it takes something off the plate, a little bit, like 670 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: off your shoulders, a little off your shoulders thinking okay, 671 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: well now we can breathe. We don't have to think 672 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: about another road ceremony, not about that we have this, 673 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: you know. 674 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, if you were to give someone advice 675 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: now that was going on paradise, I know you said, 676 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: you know, Joe's advice to you was get as much 677 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: sleep as possible. What would be your advice that you 678 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: passed down to future contestants. 679 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: Well, I, you know, I took you guys advice. I 680 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: took other people's advice. I just really lived in the moment. 681 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't chase the cameras. You know, some 682 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 3: people are looking for the cameras and then they wanted 683 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: to go. I didn't do that because I, you know, 684 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: and I'm visibly really not in the show like a lot, 685 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: which is okay. I'm fine with that. I had my 686 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 3: time the other one, but I just I would say, 687 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: just be organic and be yourself and you know, try 688 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: to stay out of the drama. Except that's probably why 689 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't in the show too much, because I tried 690 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: not to do the drama thing and get rest and 691 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: just have fun. Really, it was an amazing experience that 692 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. And I feel like I came away 693 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: with like eight new daughters and I literally I felt 694 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: like my right arm was cut off when I got home. 695 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I miss Paris signment, like all these people 696 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 3: you know, and I just I love them, talk to 697 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: them still, and yeah, I'm a winner. 698 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: Nice. That's good the hair. I'm glad you're in good spirits, Leslie. 699 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: It was so nice talking to you. Thank you for 700 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: taking the time and coming on the podcast. 701 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 3: All right, guys, thank you of. 702 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: Course, and to our listeners, thank you for tuning in 703 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: to Better Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe 704 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: to the podcast. 705 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 2: We'll have new and exclusive interviews every single week. Thanks 706 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: for listening. 707 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 3: Bye.