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Speaker 3: book that we're talking about today is called The Wealth

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Speaker 3: Money Can't Buy The Eight Hidden Habits to live your

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Speaker 1: It's such a pleasure to see you again.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I saw you outside and we both felt it.

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Speaker 1: Well, You're more than generous. Jay. When I saw you

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Speaker 1: that's been my friend for ten years or five years.

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Speaker 1: But I would say, you know, if you're growing and

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Speaker 1: you're reading, and you're doing all these modalities and you

436
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Speaker 1: want to live your richest life and you want to

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Speaker 1: materialize your gifts and talents and live at your best,

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Speaker 1: and someone isn't growing and they're always questioning you or

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Speaker 1: you say here's a new idea project, and they're just

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Speaker 1: going that would never work, here the reasons, etc. Then

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Speaker 1: you really have to ask yourself if that person is

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Speaker 1: good for you and healthy for you. And I would say,

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Speaker 1: if you love them, maybe it's a parent that love

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Speaker 1: them from afar, or practice selective association and see them

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Speaker 1: once a month versus texting with them or chatting with

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Speaker 1: them on the phone every day. I'd say the second

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Speaker 1: reason why we keep people who are not good for

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Speaker 1: us or who are bringing us down in our life

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Speaker 1: is the human being doesn't like to change. We just

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Speaker 1: don't like to change, and so it's so much. I

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Speaker 1: would put it to you this way. I would say,

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Speaker 1: the discomfort of growth is always less dangerous than the

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Speaker 1: illusion of security, and so I would say, yes, it's

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Speaker 1: difficult to let people go, and yet that is always

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Speaker 1: less dangerous than saying I'm going to allow these people

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Speaker 1: to stay in my life if they're just bringing me down.

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Speaker 3: It's such an interesting thing because I often find also

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Speaker 3: that as we're growing in our personal growth, self de

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Speaker 3: element journeys, we're often becoming less compassionate in the beginning,

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Speaker 3: Like there's an immature arrogance that develops. So if I'm

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Speaker 3: moving faster than these people, I'm better than these people.

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Speaker 3: I'm the one doing the self work and they're not

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Speaker 3: doing it. And even that mindset in itself is a

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Speaker 3: sign that we've got a lot more work to do,

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Speaker 3: because if we're working so deeply on ourselves, our compassion

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Speaker 3: should more likely expand, and hopefully we'd have the ability

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Speaker 3: to set better barriers and boundaries with those individuals and

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Speaker 3: develop the idea that we can have a group of

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Speaker 3: people that we grow around. And then you have a

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Speaker 3: group of people that you have to give to often, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what our life is made up of.

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Speaker 3: Like life isn't just we're not just running by people

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Speaker 3: that help grow because we're obviously taking from them as well,

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Speaker 3: And we don't want to be in a position where

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Speaker 3: we're only giving.

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Speaker 2: We want to be able to grow.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost like we all have we have two

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Speaker 3: sets of groups in our life at any real given time.

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Speaker 2: Would you agree with that, Well.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would just say trust trust your joy. I

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Speaker 1: think joy is a great GPS. And so yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not in any way suggesting be around people only who

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Speaker 1: fuel you and who help you become you at your best.

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Speaker 1: I'm simply saying it's about what's healthy, It's about your joy.

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Speaker 1: It's about being around people who you vibe with, who

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Speaker 1: understand you, who have similar values, who support you, and

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Speaker 1: who encourage you. So I think your community is definitely

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Speaker 1: a key and absolutely key form of wealth. The form

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Speaker 1: of wealth is the fourth excuse me as your craft.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it's very easy to fall

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Speaker 1: into the trap of thinking a job is a job

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Speaker 1: and not realizing that our work offers us an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to get to know who we truly are. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a chapter in there about do your project dex

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Speaker 1: you know, which is build your And I think the

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Speaker 1: world right now needs more magic in the world. And

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us. What we do is

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Speaker 1: we try to push out a lot of content, put

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Speaker 1: out a lot. And I would rather do one master

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Speaker 1: work than a thousand mediocrites. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing your craft as a chance to change the world

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Speaker 1: is a form of wealth.

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Speaker 3: What would you say to people who go robin, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I just want to check into my job,

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Speaker 3: clock my hours and come home.

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Speaker 2: Is that okay? Is there a better way to live?

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Speaker 2: What would you say to that?

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Speaker 1: I'd say, of course, I mean the great thing about

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Speaker 1: a human life as well, get to live in the

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Speaker 1: way that we want to live. I've never subscribed to

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Speaker 1: the hustle and grind culture. I think that rest is

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Speaker 1: not a luxury, it's a necessity. I think we have

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the fruits of our labor. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: I think almost in the world right now now, hard

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Speaker 1: work has a bad reputation. And I just think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, seeing your work is noble. Seeing your work

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Speaker 1: as a chance to pursue mastery. Seeing your work is

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Speaker 1: a chance to serve and delight and astonish is a

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Speaker 1: great form. It's a great form of happiness. If someone

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Speaker 1: wants to say I just want to finish at five

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Speaker 1: and go home. That's absolutely fantastic, I would humbly suggest

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Speaker 1: though they might be missing one of the greatest sources

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Speaker 1: of joy and well being and under peace. If you

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Speaker 1: look at people, really happy people, a lot of them

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Speaker 1: say I would never retire. Why would I retire? It's

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Speaker 1: my oxygen? And for me, I've got a great family life,

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Speaker 1: and I think I have a good lifestyle, and yet

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Speaker 1: I just what I do. This is year thirty one

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Speaker 1: in the field of leadership and personal development and the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to calibrate the craft. I spent one year of

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Speaker 1: my life on this book. I did twenty different manusc

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Speaker 1: where it's probably ten thousand little optimizations every version. And

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Speaker 1: I really suffered on this book, and you know I

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Speaker 1: have to. It was suffering. It was hard. I felt

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Speaker 1: like giving up. I could have mailed it in. The

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Speaker 1: publisher would have said, absolutely fine. But there's a whole

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Speaker 1: series of values here, like my family name is on

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Speaker 1: that cover. I'm only as good as my last book.

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Speaker 1: I think. You know, pushing yourself to the jagged edges

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Speaker 1: of your potential is how you grow and you know this.

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Speaker 1: But I really feel I have a sacred trust relationship

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Speaker 1: with my readers, and you said an intention before we started.

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Speaker 1: I set an intention here too, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: to celebrate you for all the good that you do

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Speaker 1: in the world, and to have this studio full of light.

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Speaker 1: And also I just did a little visualization in prayer

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Speaker 1: before I came over here for all the people around,

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Speaker 1: the millions and millions of people who listen to your show,

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Speaker 1: and you know, as you know, these are real human

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Speaker 1: beings with hopes and dreams and fears and insecurities. And

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Speaker 1: I thought about as many of them as I possibly could.

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Speaker 1: Some are at the top of the mountains. Some people

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Speaker 1: are struggling. Some people are in bad relationships. Some people

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Speaker 1: are in the relationship off their lifetime. Some people are

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Speaker 1: starting a new tech company. Some people are multi billionaires.

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Speaker 1: Some people are entertainers, some people are athletes. What am

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Speaker 1: I offering. I'm simply saying. I think through our work,

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Speaker 1: we have a chance to change lives. I was in

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Speaker 1: London recently and I got into this tax on London

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Speaker 1: black cab and the gentleman outside it it's almost like

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Speaker 1: he was on guard doing noble work. Jay. His car

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Speaker 1: was shining, his tires were polished. I walked inside the

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Speaker 1: carpeting on the floor was perfect. And as we went

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Speaker 1: to Heathrow, I sort of tried to deconstruct his winning formula,

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Speaker 1: and this is on this fifth form of wealth. It's

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Speaker 1: a fourth form of wealth, seeing your work as your craft.

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Speaker 1: And he said, well, you know, I take my job seriously.

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Speaker 1: It gives me so much pride. I get to meet

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Speaker 1: interesting people. Then when we got to the airport, he goes, look,

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Speaker 1: look what I do before every person comes in here.

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Speaker 1: And he hit this shampooer and he goes, look, and

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Speaker 1: he turned it on and he started shampooing the carpet

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Speaker 1: and then he had like the windex. And I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether someone is a CEO or a billionaire,

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Speaker 1: or a famous tycoon, or a pizza maker or a

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Speaker 1: yoga teacher or an astronaut, work has incredible potential to

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Speaker 1: help us build intimacy with our mastery, but also give

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Speaker 1: us incredible fulfillment. So it's a form of wealth, you

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Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 3: I love hearing that because I had personal experience of

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Speaker 3: it as well just last week. So last week was

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Speaker 3: one of my best friends birthday. He was in town,

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Speaker 3: and so I took him and a friend to Disneyland,

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Speaker 3: you know, which is not a couple of hours away

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Speaker 3: for his birthday. And it was amazing. We were fortunate

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Speaker 3: enough to, you know, have a private guide, like a

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Speaker 3: tour guide. Her name was Lexi, and I have not

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Speaker 3: met someone.

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Speaker 2: This like just for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I'd not met someone who is like that passionate, knowledgeable, smart,

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Speaker 3: charismatic about their work. She knew every detail of history

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Speaker 3: of the Walt Disney park, right, she knew everything.

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Speaker 2: She knew where Walt Disney had.

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Speaker 3: Spent time, she knew what year that ride was built,

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Speaker 3: she knew the little easter eggs and the hidden stories

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Speaker 3: about every single ride. Like it was just spectacular to

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Speaker 3: be around her and to learn from her. And when

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Speaker 3: you're talking about mastering your craft, I was so amazed

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Speaker 3: at how, you know, twenty six years old like fully

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Speaker 3: mastered the craft of hospitality, tour guide, entertainment, knowledge smart.

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Speaker 3: And I said to her at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: because we were just so happy with the experience, I said,

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Speaker 3: I said, you're going to run that park one day,

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Speaker 3: like you have that energy, like you're going to run

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Speaker 3: that park one day. And she said, you know, she

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Speaker 3: said to me after it, she was like, it's experiences

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Speaker 3: like this they give me joy for what I do.

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Speaker 3: And I was just thinking how special it was to

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Speaker 3: experience that I love what I do, but to feel

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Speaker 3: that from someone, it was it was amazing. So shout

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Speaker 3: out to Alexi if you're listening, but it was, it

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Speaker 3: was such a beautiful experience, and I think that what's

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Speaker 3: happened I feel Robin. I know you work in leadership.

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Speaker 3: You worked with so many organizations all across the world,

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Speaker 3: like I think, for so long because culture perpetuates in

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Speaker 3: cascades down because you've seen the person above you not

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Speaker 3: love what they do and not master their craft, but

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Speaker 3: do the job. You then do the job and don't

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Speaker 3: master your craft. And then the person who's coming up

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Speaker 3: beneath you sees the same thing. And then we repeat

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Speaker 3: that culture because we see it being rewarded. We don't

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Speaker 3: see what you just said. You just gave this beautiful

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Speaker 3: example of you know, it took your while to write

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Speaker 3: this book. You suffered to write this book. It was

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Speaker 3: it was hard work to put it together. And you said,

626
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Speaker 3: I'd rather create a mastery than lots of mediocrits. But

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Speaker 3: we see mediocrity being celebrated and rewarded, and masterpiece is

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Speaker 3: generally hard to find these days, right because of the

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Speaker 3: amount of consumption and the amount of creation, And so

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Speaker 3: it almost feels that we have to be able to

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Speaker 3: break generational cycles, or break the generational curses, or break

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Speaker 3: multi generational culture. How do we get the courage to

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Speaker 3: do that when we see everyone doing the opposite around us.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a few things that come to mind.

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Speaker 1: And the first thing is, you know, I love going

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Speaker 1: to art galleries, me too, and I am absolutely inspired.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if all your viewers can see it,

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Speaker 1: but there's that almost looks like a basque out behind me,

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Speaker 1: I know. So I'm just I'm an esthet that's a

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Speaker 1: French word, as you know, for a lover of beauty.

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Speaker 1: And this is not expensive beauty necessarily. I love the

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Speaker 1: beautiful flower. I love going to our galleries and seeing

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Speaker 1: the work of the masters. And I often hear in

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Speaker 1: La the other day I went to a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of galleries and I was around cy Twombly, yes, or

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Speaker 1: I was around for you know, and I just love

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Speaker 1: these amazing whether it's about oh, I went to Basquia.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the Basquia in Negotia,

649
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Speaker 1: Please please go. And what I'm offering is, don't do it.

650
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Speaker 1: Don't do beautiful work for the applause. The applause will

651
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: come as a byproduct. Do beautiful, do your most beautiful work.

652
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Work hard on it, calibrate it, make it magic. See

653
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: your work work as part of a magic shop for

654
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Speaker 1: what it introduces you to within yourself, and even if

655
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: no one sees it. I think about Vincent Vange, one

656
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: of the greatest artists of all time. He sold two paintings.

657
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: So he didn't do it for the money. He didn't

658
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Speaker 1: do it for the fame, fortune and adoration. He did

659
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: it because he had to do it. And he did

660
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: it because he was an explorer, he was a magician.

661
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: It did something inside him that made him feel very good.

662
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I think about J. D. Salinger. One of my favorite

663
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Speaker 1: books is Catcher in the rye Jay. He only wrote

664
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Speaker 1: one book and then he checked out into a subterranean

665
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: passage in New Hampshire and he probably wrote I think

666
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: was thirty other books, but he never published one of them.

667
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: So how do you develop this kind of philosophy, Well,

668
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: you stop plugging into the cultural majority and doing what

669
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Speaker 1: everyone is doing, and you do, you take a radical

670
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Speaker 1: act and you start thinking for yourself. And I think

671
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: that's the power of the eight forms of wealth the

672
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: book is based around. It's a framework, it's a mount

673
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Speaker 1: everest for the eight most important elements of a life

674
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Speaker 1: well lived. Doesn't mean you're going to do them all

675
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: in the day, but every day you advance on growth,

676
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: on wellness, on family, on craft, on money, on community,

677
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: on adventure, and on service, and you start to think

678
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Speaker 1: for yourself. And I guess what I'm trying to say

679
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: is you start to live your own life versus your

680
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: neighbor's life. And I think that's a powerful way to live.

681
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: No one wants to get to our last day and

682
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: say we lived like the tribe. We lived like our neighbors.

683
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Speaker 1: There's an acronym in the book called Penham, the five

684
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Speaker 1: forces of Penam. Parents, environment, nation, associations, and media. These

685
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Speaker 1: five forces program us and here's what they do. They

686
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Speaker 1: cause us to forget who truly are. And so I

687
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: think we're born into genie and then we resign ourselves

688
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: into ordinary and we become busy being busy, and we're

689
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: playing with our phones and we're doing what everyone else

690
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Speaker 1: is doing. But deep inside we have a voice of

691
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: wisdom that sees the self betrayal, and we're in pain

692
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: because potential on express turns pain. So we're in pain,

693
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: but we don't know it. And so that's why we

694
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Speaker 1: medicate ourselves with too much phone, too much digital, too

695
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Speaker 1: much work.

696
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: Too much.

697
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Speaker 1: Scrolling, too much gossiping, because we don't like ourselves.

698
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Speaker 3: For sure, said I mean one of the it's so

699
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Speaker 3: funny you said that. One of the things I work

700
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Speaker 3: on with my clients that I work with privately, will

701
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Speaker 3: I'll ask them to we write a book for them,

702
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: which is called their Book of Values, and it's a

703
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: book of values, mindsets, habits that they practice. We design

704
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: the cover, We print the book only one coffee, and

705
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: they carry around with them in their bag wherever they go,

706
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: so wherever in the world they can pull it out

707
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: and whenever they forget all the self work they've been doing,

708
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: they can look back at a guidebook for themselves. And

709
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Speaker 3: I always tell them, we're only ever going to publish

710
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Speaker 3: one of these. This doesn't get shown to your family,

711
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Speaker 3: it doesn't go to your friends. It's not something you

712
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: have to promote, you know, market it. It stays with them.

713
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Speaker 3: And I was inspired by it because I remember reading

714
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Speaker 3: Benjamin Franklin's Thirteen Merches. To me, that was the idea

715
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Speaker 3: of it, is like, how could you have a book

716
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Speaker 3: that you carried around that represented you, that held your identity,

717
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Speaker 3: that made you like yourself because that's who you were,

718
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: but you often had to remind yourself of who you

719
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: were while you get caught in the PanAm you know

720
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Speaker 3: the five points you just mentioned now? And I think

721
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Speaker 3: that idea and anyone can do that. You don't have

722
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Speaker 3: to be well known to do that. You don't have

723
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Speaker 3: to be successful to know that. I know you talk

724
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Speaker 3: about the value of journaling, like that's what a journal is.

725
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: It's a space where you carry around your heart, if

726
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: you see it that way, right, You carry around your

727
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: thoughts and you can re edit and you know, systemize

728
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Speaker 3: your thoughts and make sense of them. And one of

729
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: the things I've been hearing from a lot of people

730
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: recently is this thought of like realizing they need to

731
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: rewire their relationship with money.

732
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Speaker 2: People have either been.

733
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Speaker 3: Trained to believe that money is bad, money is evil,

734
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Speaker 3: Money doesn't buy happiness, Money is the root of all evil.

735
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Speaker 3: Money will make you lose friends. There's so many statements

736
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Speaker 3: about money that have been programmed into our penom, whether

737
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: it's our parents, whether it was media. As you said,

738
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Speaker 3: you know all the others that have programmed us, And

739
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you get to a point in

740
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Speaker 3: life where you realize, well, now I just have unhealthy

741
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: beliefs about money. So whether I have it or I don't,

742
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't have a healthy relationship. How do you start

743
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: rewiring that?

744
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Speaker 1: If I could, before I answered that, you talked about

745
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Speaker 1: something that I think is so important, the book you

746
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: do with your class allience, and I think that speaks

747
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: to something that is so essential in the world right now,

748
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: which is solitude. I think genius loves isolation. I think

749
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: we are so in the world right now, and there's

750
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: so much noise we can't hear the signal. And so

751
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: I think spending some time every day alone is so powerful,

752
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: whether it is in a journal, whether it is on

753
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: a nature walk, whether it is one of the chapters

754
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: in the craft sections. Go ghost for a year, you

755
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: take one year, go to Bali, go to Vietnam, go

756
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: to Medae and go to Stockholm.

757
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Leave your phone.

758
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Speaker 1: Take the classics, read them, study them, learn MVP, meditation, visualization,

759
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: and prayer, take long walks and get lost, talk to strangers,

760
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: find yourself, and after that year or six months or

761
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: three months, come back to the world reconnected with who

762
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: you truly are. So I think being alone and going

763
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Speaker 1: ghost is important. So you talk about how do we

764
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: rewire our relationship with money. I think the DNA of

765
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: transformation is awareness. So it's the process a first fall

766
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Speaker 1: realizing that money is something, but it's not everything. So

767
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: our society says, measure your success by your not worth.

768
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: In many ways, that's how society tells us to think.

769
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Speaker 1: We pedestal the billionaire. We don't put the gardener or

770
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the teacher or the firefighter on the front cover of

771
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: the magazine. So understanding that money is not everything and

772
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: it won't be the source of yours. Like I've met,

773
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: so many people have sold their companies. I think one

774
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: person in particular, he said, we had a liquidity event.

775
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: We were waiting for the funds to wire into the account.

776
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: My whole family was sitting around the table. We watched

777
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: the funds go into the account and it goes. I

778
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: went into the account and I didn't feel any different.

779
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: And it's that Zen proverb. Wherever you go, there you

780
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: are so Realizing that trap number two, Realizing of course

781
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: money is important, gets you better way to journey through

782
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: life in some ways, less stress. You can do great

783
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: things for your family, you can help people in need,

784
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: you can get things.

785
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: That you like.

786
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with material objects, but not defining yourself

787
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: by your art collection, not defining yourself by your gnat worth,

788
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: because then that becomes just another drug of choice. So

789
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: it's what I was saying earlier, which is making money.

790
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: Prosperity is a wonderful thing. I mean, if you look

791
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: at the universe, there's no scarcity. There's flowers everywhere, and

792
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: there's clouds, and there's so much. The universe is abundant.

793
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: So there's nothing wrong with abundant forms of money. I

794
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: don't think we need to make it bad at all.

795
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: But not using it and having it as our god

796
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: to the point where actually we become so busy chasing

797
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: money we forget about the other seven forms of well

798
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: We forget about our family, forget about our wellness. What's

799
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: the point. There's one wisdom tradition. They say when we

800
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: are young, we would sacrifice our health for wealth, and

801
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: when we get old and wise, we would sacrifice all

802
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: of our wealth for one day of good health. So

803
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: making money is not at all bad thing, but let's

804
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: not sacrifice the other seven mountaintops that are important for

805
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: a truly well lived life.

806
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, having a more expanse definition is so required because

807
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: we're often also only measuring our success in life and

808
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: happiness based on that one metric. I think that measurement

809
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: piece is so interesting because I was saying to a

810
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: friend a couple of years ago, he really slowed down

811
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: from his work because he fell in love and he

812
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: found love, and he's gone on to get engaged to

813
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: the individual and at some point soon they'll get married.

814
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: And he always felt that that year was such a

815
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: wasted year in his life because he was looking at

816
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: it through the lens of the business didn't progress, you know,

817
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: my financial life didn't progress. And I've said to him

818
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: so many times, I said, that was one of the

819
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: best investments of your life because you found love, Like,

820
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: you'll look back at that year as the best year

821
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: of your life of all time. But if you're only

822
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 3: measuring your success, and I was like, you have no

823
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: idea how that stability is going to impact your career

824
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: in the next few years. You could have been distracted

825
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: looking for love for the next five years and your

826
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: work would have been distracted.

827
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Speaker 1: Here you are.

828
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Speaker 3: You found love in one year, and now look, you'll

829
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: have that stability. And it's so interesting what we measure

830
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: makes such a difference. And I like that You're giving

831
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: us eight things to measure as opposed to one thing.

832
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: And then you start to realize how rich you truly are,

833
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 3: because no eight are going to align every year anyway.

834
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Speaker 1: These are eight priorities. Yeah, great life. And you talk

835
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Speaker 1: about that love story. You know how rich, how wealthy

836
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: are those are those two people. I even think about

837
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: the times that we are dealing with heartbreak, you know,

838
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: the times we are dealing with tragedy. The ego says,

839
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: this is a waste of time. The ego says, I

840
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: should be productive. What's more productive than navigating the hard

841
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: times and using the painful moments to introduce us to

842
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: our strengths, using the difficulty to make us wiser, to

843
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: teach us forgiveness, to help us learn the great human

844
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: virtues of patience and understanding. So I think it's our

845
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: ego that tells us, oh, we're wasting time. If we're

846
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: building love, we're wasting time. If we're healing, we're wasting time.

847
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: If we're going through a hard season on our journey.

848
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: But it's all christ for the mill, you know. I

849
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: think the person who experiences the most wins and work

850
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: is important. But let's not confuse productivity with busy, and

851
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: let's not confuse movement with progress. And I think a

852
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: great human life has many different seasons and many different elements,

853
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: and maybe there's a time for each of them.

854
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you talk about knowing your scarcity scars. This one

855
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: really resonated with me because I think we don't realize

856
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: what a scarcity mindset we've built up over time in

857
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: all of these areas, I don't deserve love, I manifest

858
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: bad health. I must be going to get sick. I'm

859
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: going to ruin this and throw it all away, Like

860
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: these are repetitive thoughts in people's minds in scarcity, in

861
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: each of these areas that you break down as the

862
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Speaker 3: eight priorities, Somewhere deep inside of ourselves we believe we

863
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Speaker 3: don't deserve career success, love, success, wellness, success craft. I

864
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: can never be good enough to do that. That's for

865
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Speaker 3: special people. That's for the Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, that's

866
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: not for me. Like those people mastered their craft. So

867
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Speaker 3: these scarcity scars that exist, how do you even develop

868
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: the idea that your scarcity scar doesn't have to be

869
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: your reality forever.

870
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Speaker 1: So there's an idea that I share called recruit a

871
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: dead board of directors, And recruiting a dead board of

872
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: directors is about the power of mentors. And all it

873
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: takes is one conversation with an interesting person to revolutionize

874
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Speaker 1: the way we see the world. And we talked about

875
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: the pendem programming, the Five forces. In so many ways

876
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: we adopt the When we're little kids, we have these

877
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: social cues and we watch and listen to how our

878
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: parentcy of the world. And that's what parents do. They

879
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: teach us how the world works. And for a lot

880
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: of parents, they teach a scarcity. Money doesn't grow on trees.

881
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I had one client his father repeat it over and

882
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: over and over again. All rich people are liars, cheats

883
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: and thieves. How many times do parents say, that's a

884
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: great idea. You want to be in the NBA, or

885
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: you want to be a painter, you want to be

886
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: a best selling author. You want to be a billionaire?

887
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: Be reasonable makes me think of George Bernard Shaw said,

888
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Speaker 1: the reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable

889
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: one persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all

890
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: progress depends on the unreasonable man. So what is recruiting

891
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: a dead board of directors all about? Well, it's like,

892
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Speaker 1: if you can't have a mentor who's a possibilitarian and

893
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Speaker 1: who mentors you and teaches you how to do it,

894
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: then find some dead people through their books that influence you.

895
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Speaker 1: And so how do we heal these these scars? Well,

896
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Speaker 1: we realized that genius is less about genetics and it's

897
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: more about your daily habits. You know, if you look

898
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Speaker 1: at the people we put on pedestals, the headye lamars,

899
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Speaker 1: the great actors, the great athletes, Aristotle, on Nasis, Nelson Mandel,

900
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Speaker 1: one of my greatest heroes in my life, and you

901
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: read their biographies. These people are all cut from the

902
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: same cloth as as we are. You know, the story

903
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: of human greatness is all about people from ordinary circumstances,

904
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Speaker 1: wiring in new habits, taking risks, getting knocked down so much,

905
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Speaker 1: and being and being resilient. So I think having a

906
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Speaker 1: dead boarder, I even think of Kobe. You know, you

907
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: mentioned Kobe. So he actually said, you know, I got

908
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and I thought everyone would want to

909
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Speaker 1: be best in the world and want to be iconic.

910
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: And he said, I realized a lot of people got

911
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: in the NBA and that was their badge of honor.

912
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: They were good, and they just started partying and they

913
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: might do one workout every day. And he said, I

914
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: realized that if I got up at three o'clock every morning,

915
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Speaker 1: practice from four to six, went home, had breakfast, et cetera,

916
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Speaker 1: went back, did another workout eleven o'clock to noon, went home,

917
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Speaker 1: had some lunch, recover, rested, did another workout, went home,

918
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Speaker 1: had dinner, and did a fourth workout. To use his words,

919
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: after a period of four or five years, I would

920
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: develop an advantage so great that no one would ever

921
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Speaker 1: catch up. So all I'm saying is people whose lives

922
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Speaker 1: we want to be living, they're not cut from some

923
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Speaker 1: magical cloth, you know, scarcity scars like the richest people

924
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Speaker 1: I mentioned Aristotal on Nasis, he started with two hundred

925
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Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. But they're just doing a series of

926
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Speaker 1: practices and they're adopting different ways of seeing the world,

927
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Speaker 1: and they're not playing victim and giving away their power

928
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Speaker 1: to external things, insteadily through time to build the lives

929
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Speaker 1: that we now admire.

930
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Speaker 3: Well said I The reason why that resonates so strongly

931
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: with me, I've often said, and I love your language

932
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: around it. I've often said that I've been mentored by

933
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Speaker 3: people I've never met because I had the fortune of

934
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Speaker 3: reading Martin Luther King when I was young, reading Steve Jobs,

935
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Speaker 3: you know, when Walter Isaacson wrote his brilliant book on

936
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Speaker 3: Steve Jobs, reading Einstein. You know, it's just it's amazing

937
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: that we're so obsessed with what people think of us

938
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Speaker 3: as opposed to how people lived. And it's we think

939
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Speaker 3: a mentor is about who can give me direct advice,

940
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: and we're so interested in advice as opposed to you

941
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: can actually study the action that that dead board of

942
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Speaker 3: directors did in that scenario. How did they deal with stress?

943
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: How did they deal with pressure? How do they deal

944
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: with failure? How do they deal with success? Like?

945
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Speaker 2: What did they do?

946
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: Like?

947
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 3: It's so great to have a dead board of directors.

948
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Speaker 3: I love that language because you can actually study the actions,

949
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Speaker 3: not just the advice, and we often get so lost

950
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: in advice that we miss out and realizing it's behavior change,

951
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 3: it's action, it's habit change, as you're saying, that really

952
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 3: makes the shifts in our life. And you mentioned this

953
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: earlier I wanted to come back to. It was this

954
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Speaker 3: three great friends rule, and I love that you talk

955
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Speaker 3: about having three great friends. I heard recently somewhere I

956
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 3: can't remember. I was browsing on social media and someone said,

957
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: you need three am friends as well. Like friends, you

958
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: can call at three am then they'll pick up the phone.

959
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: How do you know what is the quality of a

960
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: great long term friend? What is a great friend? I'm

961
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 3: not sure we even know anymore.

962
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: A great friend is someone you can be yourself with

963
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: and they still love you. Great friend is I had

964
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: a line in the book, you know you're in a

965
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: foreign country. In three am, they hop on a plane

966
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: and they come get you. A great friend is someone

967
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: who you can laugh with. Great friend is someone who

968
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: you're going through your most difficult times and they'll listen

969
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: to you for hours. A great friend is, you know,

970
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: someone who accepts you, someone who helps you be seen.

971
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: A great friend is someone who when you're with them

972
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: you feel joyful versus depleted. So I think it's really important,

973
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, in this world where we are maximalists want

974
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: we want to be all things to all people. We

975
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: want to have so many different friends, focus on three

976
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: great friends. We want to read a hundred books, master

977
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: three books. Maybe it's Jobs, is Isaacson's autobiography on Jobs

978
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: like you mentioned. Maybe it's The Prophet by Khalil Uberan.

979
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 1: Maybe it's The Giving Tree by Shell Silver Steme. Maybe

980
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: it's Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, one of my favorite books

981
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: of all time. You know. But I think just being

982
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: a minimalist is so powerful. Build your life around a

983
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: few things. Even in work I mentioned it, rather than

984
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: pushing at one thousand pieces of mediocrity, do one thing

985
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: incredibly well, you know, even if it takes five years,

986
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: ten years. There's a chapter called make your Project X

987
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: in the Wealth Money Camp, and the example is the

988
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: Duomo in Milan. How long they spent on it. In

989
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: this world where we want to do something in an

990
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: hour and they get the rewards or maybe a week,

991
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: maybe a month, it took six hundred years to create

992
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: the Domo. These are values of an unspoken age. Six

993
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: hundred years of calibrating, refining, optimizing to create the Domo.

994
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: And so that's what a project X is. Rather than

995
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: doing lots of things, you do one thing. Maybe it's

996
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: one work of art. Michelangelo took four years of working

997
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: on the chapel of the Sistine ceiling, but he got

998
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: the job done. So minimalism is very, very powerful in.

999
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: One of the things you said that this idea of

1000
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: we're almost trying to be so many things to so

1001
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: many people that it's hard to find the right friends.

1002
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: One of the things you talk about is do not

1003
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: be a doormat. And I find that that becomes that

1004
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: people pleasing mentality, that ability I can mold and I

1005
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: can be whatever you want me to be, and I

1006
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: can be lots of things, and we feel validated that way.

1007
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: But in the end, we're just becoming a doormat. Everyone

1008
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: crosses over a doormat, and a doormat welcomes everyone in

1009
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: the same way. So when I read that, I was like,

1010
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: how do we be kind but not be a doormat?

1011
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: How do we be service oriented but not be a doormat?

1012
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: How do we balance that art of being welcoming but

1013
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 3: not being a doormat.

1014
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, you know, for many years, like you j, I've

1015
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: talked about the power of just being being kind, you know,

1016
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: and it sounds so simple, But being kind staying in

1017
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: a hotel, remembering there's someone going to clean my room

1018
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: after I leave the room. So put the towels in

1019
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: the bathtub, straighten out the bed, leave the room service

1020
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: tray clean. Little acts of kindness not only are gifts

1021
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: you give to someone else, it's a gift you give

1022
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: to yourself. You respect yourself more so then people came

1023
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: sometimes say to me, well, if I'm kind, people will

1024
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: take advantage of me. And I would say people will

1025
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: only take advantage of you if you allow people to

1026
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: take advantage of you. Let's not confuse kindness with weakness.

1027
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: There is a time to always be kind, but that

1028
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you'll let people walk over you. And that

1029
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: makes me think of another idea that I write about,

1030
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: which is the importance of you know, in this world

1031
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: right now, it's so easy to live the same year

1032
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: eighty times and call it life. And there's one chapter

1033
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: called be a Perfect Moment Creator, And the story I

1034
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: tell him there is of Eugene Kelly. Oh Kelly, excuse

1035
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: me and Eugene O'Kelly used to be the former CEO

1036
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: of KPMG, the accounting behemoth, And one day he walked

1037
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: into his doctor's office to get the results of a

1038
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: routine medical and the doctor came out with an expression

1039
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: you never want to see on the face of your

1040
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: doctor when you go to get your results. And he

1041
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: was told he had ninety days left to live. He

1042
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: had an interoperable brain tumor. So confronted with his mortality,

1043
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: he realized for the first time he had never in

1044
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: all his years as a corporate titan, he had never

1045
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: taken his wife to lunch. He had missed so many

1046
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Christmas concerts of his daughter. He had never spent time

1047
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: with his friends walking through Central Park and having conversations.

1048
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: And so he decided to re engineer his last ninety days,

1049
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: and he said, I want to become a perfect moment creator.

1050
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 1: And he spent those last ninety days. He actually died

1051
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: roughly ninety days after the report from his doctor. But

1052
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: I think that's so powerful. You know, when you're with

1053
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: your family, when you're with your work, when you're with yourself,

1054
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: each and every day, find some way to create a

1055
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: perfect moment. Maybe it's giving a gift to someone through

1056
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: a compliment. Maybe it's taking some time to do something

1057
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: that fills you with joy. But being a perfect moment creator,

1058
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: I think is a form of wealth money camp.

1059
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Speaker 3: Buy for sure, Robin, I have one last question for you,

1060
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 3: which I think is such an interesting challenge with so

1061
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: many people right now. Your rule is see another's winning

1062
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: as your victory. And I think we live in a

1063
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: world right now where seeing other people winning is we

1064
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: take it as a reflection of our losing. Right. We

1065
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: see others winning as a reflection of us being in

1066
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: We see someone winning as a feeling of we're behind.

1067
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: We see someone else winning as a feeling of there's

1068
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: not enough space, it's too consumed. It's there's too many

1069
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: podcasts in the world, there's too many books in the world,

1070
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 3: there's too many Instagram reels in the world, Like how

1071
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: can I do anything? Like if that person's winning, then

1072
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 3: they've taken my spot. We live in a world believing

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Speaker 3: that there's a finite number of seats in the theater

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Speaker 3: of happiness and in the theater of dreams, and that

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Speaker 3: there isn't a seat with our name on it. Rather

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Speaker 3: than seeing another's victory as our own. How do we

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Speaker 3: train ourselves to do that?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is such an absolutely important point, and you're right,

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Speaker 1: a lot of us look on one of the social

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Speaker 1: media feeds and we see someone and as we all know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of that isn't real. So that's the first thing,

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Speaker 1: we don't know the truth of how someone's really living.

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Speaker 1: The second thing I would say is, you do want

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Speaker 1: to train yourself to see someone's victory as an example

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Speaker 1: of possibility, And you want to train yourself and how

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Speaker 1: do you do it? MVP meditation, visualization and prayer. Prayer

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Speaker 1: is very powerful, you know, or when you're writing, write

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Speaker 1: about your insecurities, write about how you're feeling when you

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Speaker 1: see someone else winning. You know, metabolize the feelings of

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Speaker 1: inferiority by noticing them, by journaling about them, simply by

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Speaker 1: sitting with them, processing through. That's how you move through,

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Speaker 1: as you know so well, how do you move through

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Speaker 1: a feeling of insecurity not enoughness? You acknowledge it and

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Speaker 1: you don't give away your power, You don't make excuses,

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Speaker 1: you don't throw rocks at those people. You go, what

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Speaker 1: is it about their winning that is bringing up my

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Speaker 1: in not enoughness? And you'll work through that not enoughness

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Speaker 1: through journaling, through meditation, through prayer, through silence, through stillness,

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Speaker 1: through nature walks. And so I think if we can

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Speaker 1: train ourselves to say, wow, that person is doing so

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Speaker 1: well and applaud them and feel good for them and

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Speaker 1: say if they can do it, I can do it,

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to be much more peaceful. I

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Speaker 1: would also say about the podcast. Someone is going to

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Speaker 1: launch a new podcast that is going to do incredibly well.

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Speaker 1: Why not you? Someone is going to write that new

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Speaker 1: best seller tomorrow that is going to dominate the list.

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Speaker 1: Why not you? Someone is going to launch that new

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Speaker 1: business that's going to change the world. Why not you?

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Speaker 1: And then the last thing I'd say about is we

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Speaker 1: all know, but this kind of a way of being

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Speaker 1: where we see someone else's success as something that brings out,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we have resentment for it. It's coming

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Speaker 1: from a place of great scarcity and fear versus generosity.

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Speaker 1: And if we are stuck in scarcity, then we're never

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Speaker 1: going to bring our magic to the world we're operating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything we do reflects who we are, and

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Speaker 1: if we're in scarcity and we're really it's about jealousy,

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Speaker 1: and if we're feeling jealous, it's someone else's victory and

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Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with them. We need to

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Speaker 1: work through our feelings of jealousy until we get to

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Speaker 1: our next level of consciousness and evolution. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to see what other people's success bring

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Speaker 1: up for us.

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Speaker 3: Robin Sharma. Everyone in the book is called The Wealth

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Speaker 3: Money Can't Buy. The Eight Hidden Habits to live your

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Speaker 3: Richest life. Robin, I'm so grateful for your time, your

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Speaker 3: energy for pouring into this book for us picking some

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Speaker 3: of my favorites today. But like I said, there is

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Speaker 3: so much in this book to unpack. Please tag me

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Speaker 3: and Robin on Instagram, on x, on TikTok, on any

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Speaker 3: platform you use on social media with your greatest insights

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Speaker 3: the chapters that are speaking to you. Take pictures of

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Speaker 3: the book and post them and tag us so that

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Speaker 3: we can see which moments inside this book are resonating

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Speaker 3: with you strongly and which ones you're trying to apply.

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Speaker 3: And as Robin beautifully said, it's not about reading one

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Speaker 3: hundred books this year, about three that you can master.

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Speaker 3: If we can learn to master the Wealth Money Can't Buy,

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Speaker 3: it will hold with such a deep and profound impact

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Speaker 3: in our life that will value thirty years from now,

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Speaker 3: fifty years from now. Robin, thank you so much again

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Speaker 3: for your time, your energy, your presence. Always grateful to

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Speaker 3: be with you, and I'm so grateful that you put

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Speaker 3: this book together.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Jay, keep changing

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Speaker 1: the world, and really a joy to see you again.

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Speaker 3: If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode

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Speaker 3: with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how

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Speaker 3: to speak to yourself with more compassion.

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Speaker 1: My fears are only going to continue to show me

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Speaker 1: what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears,

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Speaker 1: the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to keep doing that