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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in. It is What's right, Nick Right the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and YouTube show, we finally have completed our countdown of

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty greatest players of the last fifty years. It

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<v Speaker 2>culminated on Sunday with the more than one hour video

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<v Speaker 2>breaking down Lebron James' entire career. I'm sure we'll discuss

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<v Speaker 2>that at some point on today's show. Also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>not on today's show, but on Thursday, we will announce

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<v Speaker 2>there was at least I think there were three people

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, because I'm feeling good, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone who got it one through twelve is going to

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<v Speaker 2>get something. The person who got it first is going

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<v Speaker 2>be left out. So we will do that on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that coming up, More on whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>Demande is going to be on Winning Time coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>and at some point on today's show, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss what is going to replace our Sunday pod in

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<v Speaker 2>going into football season in place of the countdown of

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty greatest players of the last fifty years. But

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<v Speaker 2>before we do any of that, let's start the show.

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<v Speaker 2>How we always start the show by discussing what we're

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<v Speaker 2>not discussing. Here's what did not make the cut for

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<v Speaker 2>today's show. Durant and Harden party with Travis Scott. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the one of Demand's favorites, Travis Scott. I

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<v Speaker 2>like Travis Scott a lot. Your sister loves him as.

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<v Speaker 4>We very controversial guy at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, yeah, I mean, listen, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>get into that. I don't feel like he deserves as

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<v Speaker 2>much blame with the tragedy of Wis Concerted about a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago. But Katie and Harden partied with him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Murray and Bonco beefing after the pro am. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that did make the show. I don't think that missed

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<v Speaker 2>the cut. I think that is actually going to be

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, if it's not the show, We're putting

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<v Speaker 2>it in the show because I want to discuss that

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<v Speaker 2>to Jonte Murray and Polo Bonco beefing after prom and

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<v Speaker 2>the Coldest sponsored by an ac company. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what that is. That's h do you know what that is?

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<v Speaker 4>League?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's the crossover. Oh so you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is either the Coldest Crawford. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>this is. Oh, d Coldest is a football player. His

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<v Speaker 2>last name is Crawford. This is the problem of Demonsee

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<v Speaker 2>only partially listening to the producers when they're setting things up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here Crawford, he says his league, it's fine, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 4>What missed?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you say? Oh, it's what missed? You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, I didn't know about it. You didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Now let's get into the actual show, demonse

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<v Speaker 2>what are we starting with?

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, is your number one in the last fifty years? Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone of course agrees with you. Nobody saying anything about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh huh, what's the most compelling? But what's the most

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<v Speaker 4>compelling argument that you've heard against Lebron at number one?

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<v Speaker 4>And now that you're done with the list, would you

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<v Speaker 4>like to do over? Be honest?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, let's start with the most composed. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>the top fifty players. There is Jalen and Jacoby my

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<v Speaker 2>dear friend. You know, I shouldn't call them my dear friends,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do. I consider both of them friends. Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Rose and of course Dave Jacoby chiming in saying not

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<v Speaker 2>on a Sunday, there's Tory Smith, former great Receiver with

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens, some other teams sending the great wire gift,

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<v Speaker 2>we BA saying wow, okay too about the list. So

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<v Speaker 2>before I talk about any potential regrets, let me discuss

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<v Speaker 2>the The biggest and most legitimate argument against being number

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<v Speaker 2>one is if you look at Kareem and Michael, neither

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<v Speaker 2>one of them ever had anything close to the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eleven finals on their resume. And the question is, is

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty eleven finals disqualifying it? Can you be the

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<v Speaker 2>best ever if you have that type of moment on

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<v Speaker 2>your resume that cost your team a championship? I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>believe the answer is yes. I think his body of

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<v Speaker 2>work before that, and most notably his body of work

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<v Speaker 2>in the decade since that makes it and the totality

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<v Speaker 2>of it makes that a part of his story, but

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<v Speaker 2>not even close to the defining part of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually think there is now this is being

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<v Speaker 2>very generous, But the most generous reading of it is

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<v Speaker 2>because of that moment, the guy who came into the

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<v Speaker 2>league more hype than anyone, with more pressure than any

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<v Speaker 2>athlete ever when they arrived to the league as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, had even more pressure in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of his career because he had that failure and

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<v Speaker 2>had to overcome it that I don't even know that

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<v Speaker 2>I fully believe that that would be the most generous

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<v Speaker 2>reading of it. However, I do think that if you'd

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<v Speaker 2>simply say the twenty eleven finals are disqualifying, that if

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron had won eight consecutive NBA titles, it wouldn't have mattered.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree with you, but that is to me a

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<v Speaker 2>fair critique that those if you're gonna be the greatest ever,

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't have that moment. It's not how I view it,

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<v Speaker 2>but that, to me is a fair argument. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the other arguments are just nonsense. The idea that

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<v Speaker 2>because Michael Jordan has a Defensive Player of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>award that he was a better defender than Lebron, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can argue he was a better defender than Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're wrong, But you can make that argument.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact that Michael won it in the late

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<v Speaker 2>eighties and Lebron came in second, was three votes short

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<v Speaker 2>of winning it in twenty thirteen, that doesn't move me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not resonant. The Michael Jordan, the never losing in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals has never been as relevant to me as

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<v Speaker 2>is to other people. Because guy played fifteen seasons in

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<v Speaker 2>the league and won six titles, so he lost at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. There were losses, they just came earlier than later.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things don't move me. But if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>say the twenty eleven finals is disqualifying, that's fine. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to say something like sad No, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I think the twenty eleven finals being disqualifying. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that him not folding, like I think that it was

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<v Speaker 4>easy for him to fold after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the point. Well, and it's the very next year,

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<v Speaker 2>they're down three two to Boston. He has the best

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<v Speaker 2>game of his second best game of his career. And

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<v Speaker 2>so again that's kind of part of the story. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, if it were myth making or fiction

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<v Speaker 2>instead of sports, you would have that moment. If this

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<v Speaker 2>were a movie, it would you would have that moment

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<v Speaker 2>and then overcoming it and all of that. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as regrets on the list, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have regrets on the list. However, there are some things

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<v Speaker 2>that I would like that if I were to do

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<v Speaker 2>it right now, I would adjust. Okay, First one is this.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had done the list knowing that jokicch was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna win a second MVP, he's got to be on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Bernard King gets bumped, he gets on there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not right, even though, like how how much you

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<v Speaker 4>were saying that he shouldn't have gotten the MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, correct, Listen, I don't think you should have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>the MVP, but I've got to base it on what

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<v Speaker 2>guys and now, much like with Nash, Nash has two MVPs,

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<v Speaker 2>I have him fortieth behind a bunch of guys who

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<v Speaker 2>never won MVP and a bunch of guys who only

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<v Speaker 2>won one MVP. So it doesn't mean that I have

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<v Speaker 2>to put him any higher than forty seventh on the list,

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<v Speaker 2>but by virtue of winning two of them, I shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have left him off. However, again this, I

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<v Speaker 2>did that part of the list and debuted it and

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<v Speaker 2>did the video and all of that before he won

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<v Speaker 2>the second MVP. I have had a lot of pushback

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<v Speaker 2>on Sidney Moncrief. I do not regret that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Walton is a tough one because his window was

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<v Speaker 2>so short. But I think I got that one right.

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi is a guy that when I look back at it,

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<v Speaker 2>I say, could I have had Kawhi a little higher?

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<v Speaker 2>And I you can convince me that when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to let me find a four instance with Kauhi. Who

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<v Speaker 2>has Kawhi in a short perioderiod of time made at

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<v Speaker 2>least an equal impact on winning and on the league

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<v Speaker 2>as for instance Jason Kidd.

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<v Speaker 4>Did.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the answer to that's probably yes, even though

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<v Speaker 2>Kid did it for such a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there an argument for Kawhi over Patrick Ewing and

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<v Speaker 2>those guys in the mid late twenties? There probably is,

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<v Speaker 2>And so maybe I would adjust Kawhi and the one

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<v Speaker 2>But the one thing everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Is assuming I'm gonna say, is Lebron your top.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what everyone's thinking I'm gonna say is Luca luc

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty. Okay, And the point that I would make

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<v Speaker 2>in defense of the Luca ranking is this the list

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<v Speaker 2>I believe would look foolish in two years time if

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<v Speaker 2>Luca isn't on there By putting him as high as

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<v Speaker 2>I did, it made it clear that his was the

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<v Speaker 2>one spot that was pure projection. He had and listen,

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<v Speaker 2>second most points per game in his career if anyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA playoffs. He's already a three time first

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<v Speaker 2>team All NBA guy. He's already three time top five

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<v Speaker 2>MVP finisher. He's done a lot of things. His playoff

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are I believe I haven't looked, but I believe

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<v Speaker 2>if you add points, rebounds, and assists per game together

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<v Speaker 2>as one thing, so if you average twenty five ten

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<v Speaker 2>and five, that's forty twenty five plus ten plus five.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Luca's points, rebounds, assists per game in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs are the highest of any player in league history. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think the Luca ranking like I think he has.

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously accomplished a lot, but not nearly enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be included on the list yet, and not nearly enough

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<v Speaker 2>obviously to be at twenty. The reason I felt feel

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<v Speaker 2>good about him being at twenty is because if I

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<v Speaker 2>had put Luca at forty six, I think it would

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<v Speaker 2>look like I was saying he already is the forty

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<v Speaker 2>sixth best player by putting him at twenty. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>clear I am not arguing he has accomplished more than

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Paul already has. I'm saying this is where he

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<v Speaker 2>is going in order to be a top twenty player.

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<v Speaker 2>So the short version is maybe a couple tweaks. One

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with the fact that you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA calendar didn't cooperate. One has to do with maybe

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<v Speaker 2>just maybe I underrated quiet touch. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did an a plus job. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is the definitive and best ranking of NBA players

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone's ever put together. And I think that I

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<v Speaker 2>deserve massive credit for having the courage to give respect

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<v Speaker 2>to Kareem even at the expense of everyone's idle. Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's move on.

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<v Speaker 4>What's next. I thank you Lebron and the Lakers have

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<v Speaker 4>started talking extension. Yeah, thank god he's got your list

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<v Speaker 4>for some leverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I expect him to break hold on. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you something. People aren't gonna believe this. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>put this on social because people are just gonna call

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<v Speaker 2>me a liar, and I don't have the energy for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said he's gonna use my list to create

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<v Speaker 2>some leverage. So I the twenty eighteen Calves Lebron's last year.

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<v Speaker 2>There after they traded Kyrie. That was a terrible team.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a mess, and it looked like at the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline they were gonna stamp pat and it was

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<v Speaker 2>unfathomable to me they were gonna not try to maximize

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<v Speaker 2>one last year of Lebron, And I went on, I

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<v Speaker 2>think one of my best rants ever about what Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Gilbert needs to do. Authorize David Griffin to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and try to win this year. And that year, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, in the playoffs, was when Lebron had two

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<v Speaker 2>buzzer beaters, eight forty point games and the single best

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<v Speaker 2>game of his career the fifty one to eight and

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<v Speaker 2>eight in the finals, and made the finals, won two

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<v Speaker 2>game sevens. That two days before the trade deadline, I

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<v Speaker 2>was friends with someone on the coaching staff. That coach

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<v Speaker 2>saw Dan Gilbert in the office or in the building

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<v Speaker 2>and played him my clip and text me the next

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<v Speaker 2>day and said, he thinks, now, maybe he was just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stroke my ego. He thinks it moved him.

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<v Speaker 4>He thinks moved him.

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<v Speaker 2>That it moved him for So I said, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>this the idea that it's just insane that Lebron would

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<v Speaker 2>use my list as Leverageah, there's a little precedent for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, go ahead. You're talking about Lebron an extension.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a true story I've never told. I'm probably wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to tell it again his for podcasting. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I if someone checks out the coaching after the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen Caps, they can probably figure out who the

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<v Speaker 2>guy is. Let's just move on.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead. But the Lakers are still going through things

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<v Speaker 4>with having Russ and the Anthony Davis rumors. Yep uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And they also might not have the their twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four pick when Bronni might be in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct that pick in New Orleans can have the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>pick in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five. New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans gets to decide once they see where the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four pick falls. That's how that works, exactly right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>So should he resign with the Lakers?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not prematurely. Maybe Lebron should resign with the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is no reason whatsoever for him to do

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<v Speaker 2>it now. None. The reasons against him doing it now

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<v Speaker 2>are five fold. The only reason you sign an extension

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<v Speaker 2>early is because in case of injury or talent or

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<v Speaker 2>skilled depreciation, you guarantee yourself the money. Lebron's got over

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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars, right, he doesn't need that. The financial

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<v Speaker 2>security of it is use is meaningless to him. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's why you wouldn't want to do it. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to keep the Lakers' feet to the fire

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<v Speaker 2>on potentially acquiring Kyrie or potentially trying to win this year. Two,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to see what if for the third straight

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<v Speaker 2>year Anthony Davis kitts and it's like, oh, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm still up here and he got there

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<v Speaker 2>during the Championship roun and there's never okay, you want

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<v Speaker 2>that information. Three, I like Darvinham. There's a chance, though

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<v Speaker 2>Darvinham's a disaster. Who knows you all of these things

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<v Speaker 2>to get information. Four you want And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>part that I don't think anyone's considering. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>chance that Lebron that the Lakers are awesome this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes great and the Bucks and Giannis or whomever wins. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Lakers have a great season, there's a chance

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron does want to stay and he just does it

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<v Speaker 2>for less money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that Lebron says, you know what, go ahead, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I think you should do. I think you might

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<v Speaker 4>do it and did it right. And doesn't that make

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<v Speaker 4>it much easier for Kyrie to get there this offseason?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it becomes as a free agent. Could make a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things easily. Yeah that if Lebron says, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in year twenty one, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be my age, this is the year after this one,

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<v Speaker 2>my age thirty nine season, I'm gonna play for less,

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<v Speaker 2>so all of those things. So I see no upside

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<v Speaker 2>to him signing the extension now. Doesn't mean he's leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers, but I see no upside to him signing

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<v Speaker 2>it now. All right, what's next?

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<v Speaker 4>You said on TV that Trey Lance can win the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did this.

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<v Speaker 4>Last Sky's last season as a starter was at North

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<v Speaker 4>Dakota three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota State, North Yida State. Sorry, yeah, no problem.

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<v Speaker 4>So is this a Andrew Wiggins Part two type of

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<v Speaker 4>thing are you worried about?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, first of all, it is it is very

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<v Speaker 2>the only way when you're saying Andrew Wiggins Part two,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get as crushed by those sons of bitches

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<v Speaker 2>online for being too high on a guy. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>understand what I mean? If I said that Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a complete bust and then he

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<v Speaker 2>wins Super Bowl MVP, that is setting yourself up. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you a little more. One of the reasons people

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<v Speaker 2>crushed me for the Wiggans thing is they thought the

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<v Speaker 2>take was mean. They thought, so, I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>any take you can give that is positive that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be If it's a positive take that ends up

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<v Speaker 2>being wrong, is not ever going to be as polarizing

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<v Speaker 2>as a negative take that ends up being wrong. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>you follow me now? The question I was asked is

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<v Speaker 2>what is Trey Lliance's ceiling? And I stand by listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously haven't seen Trailiance played a handful of NFL games.

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<v Speaker 2>He played college at Division two school and his final

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<v Speaker 2>year in college going played a game because of COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>I get all that. I also trust the Niners. I

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<v Speaker 2>trust the draft evaluators that all that he was. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say a consensus top five pick, but

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams would have taken him in the

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<v Speaker 2>top five. Niners traded three first round picks to go

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<v Speaker 2>get him, right, that's first of all. Second of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I like what I saw from last year. Third of all,

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<v Speaker 2>the Niners made two of the last three NFC Championship

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<v Speaker 2>games with mediocre to blow average quarterback. So do I

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<v Speaker 2>believe in a week NFC the Niners could find themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFC Championship Game again? Of course, could they

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<v Speaker 2>win it? Of course? So if I think he could

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<v Speaker 2>be in the Super Bowl, he's the quarterback of the team.

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<v Speaker 2>His ceiling is Super Bowl MVP, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>this is year two for us. Since Colin Kaepernick in

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<v Speaker 2>year two took over for the Niners, they went to

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes in year two, after playing

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<v Speaker 2>nine year one, took over for the Chiefs. They went

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<v Speaker 2>to the AFC Championship Game in overtime. Joe Burrow in

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<v Speaker 2>year two just went to the Super Bowl. Carson Wentz,

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<v Speaker 2>who stinks in year two was gonna win League MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>That team ended up winning the Super Bowl. Without him.

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<v Speaker 2>How many Lamar Jackson in year two won league MVP

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<v Speaker 2>guys in year two? If they're that guy, are his

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<v Speaker 2>in recent NFL history? Pretty damn good? So yeah, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's speculative. But I believe in Trey Lance, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe in Deebo and Ayuk and Kittle and Shanahan and

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<v Speaker 2>that offense, all of it. All Right, that's the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna squeeze in one last mini story before

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<v Speaker 2>we move on what's next.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, everybody's feeling as confident about their quarterbacks as you

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<v Speaker 4>feel about Trey Lance. Matt Stafford has an abnormal elbow injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they say it's like a baseball injury, like ten

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<v Speaker 2>to niners. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he doesn't seem to be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And I no, he seems fine. But I think they

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<v Speaker 2>got like on a pitch count and practice.

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<v Speaker 4>But go ahead. And mag Jones has been struggling in

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<v Speaker 4>training camp. Yeah, and with Kyler Kyler Murray's contract clause,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody thinks that it's possible that he's not focused. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the biggest red flag you here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's just go through them all individually quickly. The

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford thing is either this is one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>where it's either nothing or it changes the entire landscape

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<v Speaker 2>of the NFC. It's if it's just soreness and he's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's nothing. If Matt Stafford, you know, has to

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<v Speaker 2>miss time, the Rams are just totally screwed. They are

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<v Speaker 2>a very top heavy team. No team can afford to

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<v Speaker 2>lose their quarterback. But I would argue the Rams are

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<v Speaker 2>now they maybe I shouldn't say they're particularly in that

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<v Speaker 2>boat because their defense can win them games on their

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<v Speaker 2>its own, but they are the favorites in my eyes

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFC right now. They're not my pick, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're the favorites to me. They should be over the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is if he's if he's not who he

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<v Speaker 2>was last year, then they have no chance. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>either like nothing or as big of an offseason story

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<v Speaker 2>as there is. Kyler, I think the bigger story in

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona is how poorly the organization is run. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, we've talked enough about that story. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mac Jones thing. Mac Jones was awful the final

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks of last year. After they mortified him on

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<v Speaker 2>National TV only let him throw three passes, they lose

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<v Speaker 2>Josh McDaniels, They don't have a single difference maker as

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<v Speaker 2>a pass catcher. I think that mac Jones comes way

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<v Speaker 2>back down to earth this year, and I think he

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<v Speaker 2>that he is the guy we thought he was coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of college, which is the most pro ready but

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest ceiling. What does that mean? Most pro ready

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be the best rookie, but then his other

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<v Speaker 2>guys improve and reach their potential. I think he stays

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<v Speaker 2>about the same. I think I think mac Jones's destiny

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<v Speaker 2>is to be a Ryan Tannehill esque guy in the

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<v Speaker 2>right circumstances can be perfectly competent and the wrong circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>can look bad and is never going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>guy you're like, Yep, he's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 4>Mid is what you're saying. Say it again, he's mid.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's what the kids would say, Yeah, Mac Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>mid Ye? Did I do that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? All right, We'll be right back like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, Katie on Twitter, demanse is so good. So a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago I found this. I found this sweet from

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<v Speaker 2>the year ago. To set this up, someone tweeted to

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<v Speaker 2>Katie relaxed big dog. You're Kevin Durant. Life is too sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a year And Katie replied to him, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no relax, Champ, no relax when I'm on Twitter. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on tin until the second I closed the app. You relax, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And he really has just lived by that credo. So

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<v Speaker 2>the other day I don't even remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was he hadn't tweeted in a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he sent out the It was in relation

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<v Speaker 2>to the ninety eight Bulls against the twenty seventeen Warriors,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like his drama was talking about it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like I don't know who would win,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know Steve Kerr would put Steve Kurr in

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of picking rolls.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like seven am, and this is only tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>for the day, so and don't put up Katie tweet yet.

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>So at seven o six am, this guy, just some dude,

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Michael Patron uh tweets car wouldn't start this morning, get

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<v Speaker 2>to work late in our internet's down. Lol. I love

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>this shit. Unlike at Katie Trey five, I actually enjoy

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 2>taking the hardest road. It's basically just problem solving practice.

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 2>So by before I even get to Kevin Durantstein, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>now clicking on this guy and he is.

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 4>He's got like an NFT profile picture.

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<v Speaker 2>No but eight figure Amazon seller. Uh and my and

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<v Speaker 2>just one of these guys that is like, hey, you know,

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 2>he's one of these guys. Would you take a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars or dinner with jay Z?

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 4>I do dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>Just one of these just total buffoons. Sorry, buddy, I

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that's my take from just that one tweet. So now

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>we can put the kd tweet up this guy. Since

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<v Speaker 2>this at seven o six am, Kiddy hasn't tweeted in

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<v Speaker 2>two days. Seventeen minutes later, KD. Wright, you enjoy having

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>a car and getting to work and not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to connect to the internet. He's funny, man, That's really funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do? Man? Instead

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 4>of like being all pissy, I really like how he's

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 4>clopping back with these folks. That was that was dope.

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<v Speaker 2>I I you know, I it's a shame that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot of my own doing, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>really dislikes me because I have totally come around on Kdah.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 2>I've totally come. I've come around. I never you know,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I never dislike How can you dislike the basketball? Clary is?

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I I thought he had made some very poor choices,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and there are some things that I've criticized, but man,

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and I've obviously taken some shots. But he's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I U truly disliked KT at one point a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't need to relitigate the Warriors thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just such a turn off for so many people.

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>But the Twitter, the the burner account thing was such

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>But now he has flipped the whole Twitter thing now,

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<v Speaker 2>like what was his most exactly? And it's so funny.

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>You enjoy having a car not being able to connect

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to the internet. God, he's funny. All right, you ready

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>for the second segment?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do it. How are we starting to

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<v Speaker 2>the B block today?

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to talk about winning time? Oh yeah, okay,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 4>emailed them about real quick.

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Did you actually send the email?

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 4>I can show you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I believe you.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to make and everything demon Okay, yep, I

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 4>emailed them. They haven't gotten back to me. I'm pretty

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 4>sure it's either the fans haven't been tweeting enough. Somebody

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 4>might already have my job. They might be in the

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 4>studio already. I don't know. But I am still doing.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm working out, doing at least two hundred push ups

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 4>to day, This is true, doing at least one hundred

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 4>and fifty curls a day. It's just so I can

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<v Speaker 4>be as tune as Byron Scott. So I'm gonna need

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 4>you guys to pick it up. I'm gonna need more tweets,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 4>more at winning time, HBO Demond hashtags, I need it.

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And also tweet at ghost Panther that's actually the producer's

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>uh Twitter handle, ghost Panther. Okay, so tweeted him. Do

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<v Speaker 2>we though have Here's the thing I keep telling people

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you were a great basketball player.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, go ahead, we've got proof.

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Really we've got proof. Is it high school? Don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see it was.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 4>My latest my last college games that I played. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>right here, look at that shot, man.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>All right, that's a good looking shot. I mean the release.

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>You never quickened the release the way it hopes, but

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 2>it was a smooth shot. Yeah, it's a great shot.

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a good looking shot. And by the way, I

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you can see it if you're watching it,

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Demonte's just banging threes. This is I mean, all of

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>these were critical moments, especially these last two. This one

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I think is off screen, but this is the dagger

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to win the game. But do we have any clips

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>of the athleticism? Do you have any? Oh, there's the

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>next game. I remember there's this a putback dunk.

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<v Speaker 4>Man that the pass was amazing. That was a great

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 4>past pass. Was amazing.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>The okay, I like this clip and then again.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 4>And you can see you can see my dad and

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 4>then in the bottom screen on most of them. Yeah,

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>jumping up, jumping up.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I flew to San Diego to watch.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 4>It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing.

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Was that the game that you had almost thirty in

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>the first half?

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, I think I finished with like twenty seven

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 4>points there.

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't let you play most of the second

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>half because you cursed at yourself.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so they teed you up. Yeah, which was

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 4>really I don't think. I don't get technicals often. It

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 4>was really weird.

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>No, but you were cursing it yourself. Also, it's college,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not high school. I didn't even know you got

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>a technical for that, but neither here or that. All right, listen, folks,

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Demonse's planning on moving to la He will go there earlier,

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and our producers they were like, hey, Demons, you can

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the meantime, since you're not set up

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>in la yet, you can use our address. What they

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>don't understand what that means is if he gets this gig,

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not just use the address. It's live at your

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>house until he gets his apartment, which depending on the

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 2>credit check and the credit score, might take a few months.

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 2>So I hope everybody understands what they've signed up for.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>But if it ends up with Demanse being Byron Scott

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>on one of the biggest shows in America, you know

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>who I reached out to to help us with this, Bamani,

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>because Bomani is a show on HBO, is produced it's

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>produced by the same guy, and it's on HBO, So

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>we're trying.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 4>To all right, Demanse stands, we still need you guys,

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 4>but that's huge.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.959
<v Speaker 2>Demonse stands, Okay, I don't know if those people exist.

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm going to create a name for him.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 2>How about just you know, friends of the Pod. Friends

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>of the pod, we don't need demanse stands. See that's

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>where we don't listen. I just want to get demand.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I want demand to get an audition. I think you

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>would do great. I think you look enough like Byron Scott.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I think your build is incredibly similar, and I think

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>you're yeah, you are getting bigger. I think the game

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>is similar. I think there's a lot of things by

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the way, real quick before we get to right or wrong.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, because you have been doing a shit ton

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>of push ups. You know that every time I holler

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>at you and you're like, let me finish, or you're

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>working out, and you make that clear, your mom just

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>roasts me. Really yeah, man, because I haven't been working out.

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I did really good for about a year of not

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>just the peloton but lifting weights. I was working out

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 2>five days a week. And then it's not just that

0:31:55.160 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the pod started, it's that your Momuck, she's here right now,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think she's gonna watch this whole show.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Your mom's store opened, and I got basically another job

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>from work. Every day, open up the gates, do all

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>these things during the normal workout time. So I've fallen

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>off a bit and so now every time you're down

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>there doing pushups, she's like, oh, Demonse has time. I'm like,

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be you.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 4>For lost time. Man. During that year that you were

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 4>grinding on the peloton and weightlift, Yeah you.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Got fat, buddy. Yeah, yeah, you're looking bad. You did

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the No, you weren't looking bad, and you didn't get fat.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>But you also and then we can move on to

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the actual show. Uh, you did do a full year

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of building fins, which kept me in great shape. Well

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it almost might have been better than basketball shape.

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh you certainly stronger. Yeah yeah, and then you got

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Then it's amazing. What what living right around the poverty

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>line buildings and eating noodles three meals a day?

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 4>Will it? Will do?

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 2>And then you come move it back in here. You're

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>not building fences. We got a chef, and all of

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a sudden it's like, oh boy, life's good. Then you

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>got yourself back. I'm proud of you. All right, let's

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>play a game. Right or wrong?

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Right or wrong? Luka Donsons be spotted in Slovenia

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 4>looking skinny.

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well not that skinny, but go ahead.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 4>Apparently he's been training extra hard this offseason, and it's

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 4>clearly showing right or wrong, Luca is too skinny.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I actually think that's right.

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 4>You think he's too skinny.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that he will put on some more weight.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>If it was the season we're starting right now, I

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>would not want him that weight. I do think he

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>needed to get in better cardiovascular shape because he has

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 2>such a load on him. Offensively, I think one of

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the reasons that he either was call it lacka days

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>ago on defense or wearing down in fourth quarters was

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>he was not in the best physical condition. Okay, However,

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I think Luca's NBA equivalent as far as stylistically on

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>offenses Lebron right, and he's not the athlete Lebron is,

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>but he plays very similar and puts up very similar

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you know the twenty seven to seven and seven Lebron's

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>thing where it's you're gonna fill up every part of

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the box score, right. One of the keys for Lebron

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to be able to do that is taking the punishment

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and I and for Lebron it was with pure muscle,

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 2>but then later in his career also put on extra weight.

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Luca is never gonna have that type of body, But

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I do think a little extra weight helps him deal

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 2>with the punishment.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 4>I literally, I was just saying this, Yeah, yeah, No,

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 4>I was just saying, like, the only way this I

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>was I don't I didn't want to say that he

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 4>was too skinny, but I was just saying that the

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 4>only way that him losing all this weight works if

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 4>he's just that much faster.

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 2>But he's not gonna get that much faster. No, I

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's gonna get by the way. I don't

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.479
<v Speaker 2>think he needs to be faster. He makes everyone play

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>at his speed. He gets him on his ass, like

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>right on his hip and just does what he wants.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>What he needs is to be totally honest, his lungs

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 2>to be in better shape. He needs just to be

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>in better cardio vast condition. Yeah, for real. And I

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>think trimming down. I think it is easier once the

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>season starts, or leading into the season to bulk up

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>with good weight, which I assume he will do. So

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I like this as a sign of what he's doing

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>this offseason. I would think this would be too skinny

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>for it to be his playing weight. I think he's

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 2>got to gain a little bit of weight, all right,

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 2>what's next.

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, the jont played in a pro am game in

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Seattle with his new teammates Trey Young and Jason and

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 4>John Collins. Yeah, after the game, he urged more NBA

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 4>players to play in proram games for fans they can't

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 4>afford it. Yep, right or wrong, it's worth the injury

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 4>is for NBA players to play in PROME games. Right.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, and this was the knock on Ben

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Simmons among other a handful of other guys who don't

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like seem to show year over year improvement. Here's the

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>thing about NBA players. They're going to play basketball all

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>year round, maybe take a month off after the season. So,

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a pro am game, whether it's the open

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 2>run at UCLA that's been going on forever, whether it's

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 2>pick up at twenty four when you lived in Houston,

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>how long would you see Dwight Howard.

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Yah, he came up. He came up to our school

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 4>in toime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, guys love to play, So I don't look

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>at it as more of an injury orrisk playing in

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>these proram games than playing at lifetime or twenty. These

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 2>guys are going to play it's not like football where

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 2>there's so much more contact and you can't really play

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>organized football, you know what I mean, outside of the

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 2>context of your team. So I think it is at

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:00.919
<v Speaker 2>the injury risk.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 4>And then I think as long as they're playing with

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 4>the right folks, I think that you could be playing

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.760
<v Speaker 4>against high risk like people that are more well Listen.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I think some people would argue that it is a

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>higher risk at the pro am because it's guys who

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>are like, I could be a pro and I'm gonna

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>show him. But what's really gonna get you messed up

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 2>is if you're playing with someone totally sloppy, totally out

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of control. And that's not gonna happen in a pro

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>am game as likely as it's gonna happen at just

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>some gym, some open run. So I think it's worth

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the risk. I also want to talk here because I

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>said we're gonna talk about it. The Dejonte Murray Polo

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Boncaro all of a sudden feud. I love it. I

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 2>love that both. I love that Paolo all of a

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>sudden is like taking on the mantle of ours, the

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 2>number one pardon me, but pick of this draft. Nobody's

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna talk trash to me and Dejonte, who nobody's ever

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 2>thought of as a star in year five. Jonta Murray, Yeah,

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 2>that sounds right. I'm not sure if it's your five

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>or year I.

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Think I just think it's like I compare it to

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 4>me fighting with Deanna. How are you gonna be beefing

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 4>with this dude? They just got to the NBA.

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he's the number.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 4>One pick, and it's like, but at.

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So he's played five years, but he missed one year

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>with injuries, so he's so this is he's played six

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 2>years if you include that, so this will be your seven.

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>It's because of the number one pick and Dejonte's feeling himself,

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, got traded for all these picks,

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>is looking at a big deal coming up, so I

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 2>get it. I also like Palo not backing down. I

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like the whole thing for both of them. All Right,

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I know we're out of time, so we'll go quick

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>through these last few. What's next?

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 4>Former Pats offensive lineman Rich Ornberger said that he sorry

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 4>not so, but once, after oversleeping, intentionally crashed his car

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 4>so he could dodge the raft of Bill Belichick. Right

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 4>or wrong. This is the sign of a great coach. Okay,

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 4>I that's freaking crazy.

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 2>All right, it's story time real quick. Yeah, this is

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>this is like the most instant karma that ever happened. Right,

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not even gonna answer this question. I Belichick.

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 4>Listen.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Belichick's a hard nosed guy. We all know it's fine.

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Is the reason I left this in the show is

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>tell the story. So college, my friend Tamara, who you know,

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>was flying back from somewhere to Syracuse. I like an

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 2>overnight flight, like six thirty am or maybe even earlier landing,

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 2>and I told her I'd pick her up. I had

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>been gambling it was coming back from winter break at

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>turning Stone Casino in Syracuse, and I lost track of

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 2>time or I didn't care or whatever. And as I'm

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 2>walking to my car, she calls me to say like

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 2>where are you? And am walking to my car from

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 2>the parking lot and I've got It's a forty five

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>minute drive and it's snowing because it's Syracuse in the winter.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And I answer and the phone dies and I'm like,

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. So I get on all Syracuse highways

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 2>is out. There's toll road. Get to the toll booth,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 2>and I convinced the toll booth operator this is both

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 2>pretty easy to take chips, no to let me use

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>his phone to call her.

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 4>And tell her.

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 2>So I call her and she's yelling at me. She's like,

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>where are you? I've been waiting and I'm like, And

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I got irritated that she was irritated with me. She

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know this, but she I don't know if she

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>watches the pot. I got irritated that she was irritated

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 2>with me, so I said I was like, Tamara, I

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 2>gotten a wreck, and she was like, oh my god,

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>are you okay? Like, I'm fine. Car's a little banged up,

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>but I'm running late, but I will come. I will

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 2>be there. She's like, okay, I'm sorry. I'm like, don't

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 2>worry about it. I'm on away. Give the guy his

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 2>phone back. Leave the toll area. From the toll area,

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a ramp to the next highway. Car spins out

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>on the ramp and bangs the guardrail right after I

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 2>claimed I had gotten in a wreck. So two things.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>One is that's crazy karma. Second is I don't know

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 2>what my plan had been about when I when I

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 2>picked her up, and she was gonna be like where Jay,

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Where's But now there was actual damage to the vehicle.

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 4>I would have kicked the car kicked it.

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wasn't worth it, but I so, yeah, so

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I've done something similar. I get it the old car

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>wreck excuse, except I didn't try to get in the

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 2>car wreck. But I did get in the car wreck. Okay,

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's building.

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 4>Let's it's just as scary as angry.

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Yet I think that's actually smart. I think Rich probably

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>would have gotten cut. I think it's actually smart. He's

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>cut guys for less. All right, go ahead, all right.

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 4>So Aaron Rodgers said last week his back to back

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 4>MVPs came from his improved mental state from taking some

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 4>psychedelics called.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 2>You've been practicing this all morning?

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Ayahuasca?

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh nailed nailed it?

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, so right or wrong? To improve the show,

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 4>we should take psychedelics.

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Well do they work?

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 4>To Monsea, I have no idea.

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 2>You a damn line.

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't. I took psychedelics. Am I allowed to say this?

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I'm a grown man. I'm twenty four years Yeah,

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm taking Amaron Rogers, So, yeah, I took psychedelics once

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 4>when I was a kid, and I want to slip.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 2>When you were a kid, and oh my god, I alight,

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>all right, bleep that entire you know what, hold on,

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 2>hold on, We're gonna Oh my god, that makes me

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 2>look so bad. That's not what I thought you were

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna say. Oh, you can leave this in the show.

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>But bleep, bleep some of that. I was just bleep

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the context of winning where to stop? Stop stop talking,

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 2>stop talking. I was joking, you weren't.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I've got to get that like that.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 2>That since of like when I'm serious and when I'm not. Yeah,

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 2>like what you're like? Are we playing a game here?

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Am I serious? I respect the honesty, dude. I remember

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:11.919
<v Speaker 2>the I know how old you were the last time

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 2>you went what do you?

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 4>What are you? I was eighteen.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you keep saying it like I

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 2>was eighteen. You're still the illiter. No, the answer to

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>this question is no, we're not taking psychedelic drugs to

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>improve the show. And no, I'm not taking ayahuasca or

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>micro I joked on TV that I would microde osh psilocybin,

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 2>uh like they did in that nine Perfect Strangers thing.

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not a drug guy. I have enough vices.

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I gamble, I drank, I occasionally smoke. I am not

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 2>a drug guy.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Uh agreed?

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, what's the last topic? This really went

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>off the rails. I blame the producers for putting this

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>in there without fully vetting you.

0:43:56.200 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, video surface the Royal Sodeo breaking his mother's ankles. Yeah,

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 4>a new net at the NETS training facility.

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh?

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 4>Right or wrong? I should do this to mom?

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 2>How do you think that would go for you?

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 4>I just don't think i'd post her up?

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay. But but if you were playing basketball with her

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and she ended up falling to the ground and people

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>were around, how do you think that would go for you?

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Honestly don't know.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:25.959
<v Speaker 2>I do. Do you remember the time? I mean don't

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe no, maybe you don't remember because maybe you were

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>tripping balls right before you went to Schlittermond. But uh,

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 2>the last time your mom you were you were in

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 2>high school. We were standing in the kitchen and I

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you said to your mother and my.

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Nose, Yeah, I remember that.

0:44:56.239 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah's big ass is towering over Danielle and he said

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.280
<v Speaker 2>something that made her mad. Yeah, and she she said,

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>she reached up stucker in your nose, in like all

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 2>the way in my nose, like not just.

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Like right, yeah, like like like like.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Daring you like do something like oh my god. I

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 2>was stating there like, oh my god, well it's gonna

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 2>happen here.

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 4>It was after an elite performance in an AAU basketball game.

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I don't know, that's probably why you

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 2>were feeling yourself. You re you got a little got

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>a little too big for your breeches. Yeah, all right, Well,

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you know we're gonna we're gonna discuss, you know, me

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>and my wife's parenting strategies of you know, the late

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty tens, because it looks like we might have had

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 2>a few misses and we'll come right back.

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 4>By the way, that never happened.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 2>It was just for the Oh that's what you always say,

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like anyone whenever, just so you know, a little little

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>pro tip is another wisdom for my buddy life. Well,

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>anything you say on the air, that thing causes blowback

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>in your real life. You just say, what are you

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about? We're entertainers just for the show. Like you're

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 2>resting Johnny Depp for being a drug trafficker, don't you

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 2>see blow No, you're not like we're just performing here

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 2>even though it's all true.

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well but it's not.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 2>It's not, it's not.

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.399
<v Speaker 4>I thought it would be a cool story, exactly. There

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 4>you go, all right, we'll be.

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Right back, all right, welcome back in what's right? Nick? Right?

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Final segment. Try to be quick here, because not shockingly,

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>our first two segments both went a little over. So

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I said, we're still gonna be doing three pods a

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 2>week most weeks. And by the way, also next week

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 2>we're off. Next week, I'm going to Italy one last vacation,

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and then we're gonna be on until through the end

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Super Bowl. But once I come back, we're

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:56.439
<v Speaker 2>gonna be doing three pods a week, just like we've

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>been doing. And we might even have a fancy new studio.

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 2>Keep that under wraps for now, but at some point

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 2>it's coming and we'll show that to you guys. But

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna be doing the fifty years players in

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the last fifty years, and I don't have another ready

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 2>made list that I've been working on for a couple

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 2>of years. So what is going to come in place

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of that third pod a week, and the answer is

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>during NFL season is gonna be a gambling show. So

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot of elements here that

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>we are still working out. One of them is, while

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Demonse's a football fan and watches the games, he does

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>not bet on football, and in fact it does not

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>even as I think maybe a lot of you is

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 2>not familiar with things like teasers and some of the

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 2>exotics that are big in football. By the way, a

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 2>little if you can still get down on it. I

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 2>think my favorite bet of week one is a two

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>team six point teaser where you're gonna tease the Bengals

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 2>to a pick them at home against the Steelers and

0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever doufest they tried out at quarterback and the Broncos

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>to a pick them at Seattle where they're gonna annihilate

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the Seattle Seahawks, or there's just no chance Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not big Russell Wilson, ever, there's no chance they

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<v Speaker 2>lose to that Seahawks team that's starting either Drew Locker

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<v Speaker 2>or Gino Smith. So a nice little early preseason two

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<v Speaker 2>team teaser start your season off right. So we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a weekly gambling show, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to get other media members across not

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<v Speaker 2>just Fox, but across you know, all of national media

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<v Speaker 2>to enter into an official picks contest of Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>will part of this will be part of what we

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<v Speaker 2>do on the show. We're gonna We're gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 2>iron all this out, but I would like to get

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<v Speaker 2>all of as many national media members as possible to

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<v Speaker 2>put you know, call it five hundred bucks, a thousand bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is for the season.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not weekly or anything like that, but every

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<v Speaker 2>week we give our picks like the Las Vegas Hilton

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<v Speaker 2>Super Contest or whatever it's called now and at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the year we have a winner. Going into

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<v Speaker 2>the year, though a little preview if you are curious

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<v Speaker 2>what I am on headed into the season. As far

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<v Speaker 2>as season long win totals, where I'm at, I really

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<v Speaker 2>like the Jags over six and a half wins at

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<v Speaker 2>plus money. I believe in Trevor Lawrence. I think Trevor

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<v Speaker 2>I think quarterbacks of that caliber plus the Doug Peterson

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<v Speaker 2>addition in that division. Can the Jacksonville Jaguars win seven games?

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<v Speaker 2>And the answer is unequivocally yes, And you're getting plus

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<v Speaker 2>money on that. And you might say Jacksonville was so

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<v Speaker 2>bad last year. It's true, But Jacksonville on the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>this year has Washington has two games against Houston, they

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<v Speaker 2>also have they have six, they have Detroit, they have

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets and the Giants. So that's six games against

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<v Speaker 2>some of the worst teams in football. If they can

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<v Speaker 2>just go call it four and two in those six games,

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<v Speaker 2>can they find three wins in the rest of their schedule? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think the Jags could go nine and

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<v Speaker 2>eight if everything falls right. As so, the Jags are

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<v Speaker 2>one team that I'm very high on the season long over,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as a season long under that I like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I don't see how Denver gets to eleven wins,

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<v Speaker 2>and right now their win total is sitting at ten.

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<v Speaker 2>At ten and seven would be a push with the

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<v Speaker 2>for the Broncos just to do this quickly the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>How many wins do the Broncos need to have banked

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<v Speaker 2>to get to eleven wins when you consider here is

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<v Speaker 2>their final six games of the year, Baltimore home for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs, home for the Cardinals, at the Rams, at

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs home for the Chargers. So that is six games.

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<v Speaker 2>You have two against the Chiefs, one against the defending

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<v Speaker 2>champion Rams, one against one in Baltimore. Arizona is the

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<v Speaker 2>only easy game, and they were a playoff team last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and then home for the Chargers to end the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if they are eight and three through eleven weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>are they a lot to get to eleven wins? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they like if they're nine and two, are they

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to get to eleven wins? No, they're likely,

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<v Speaker 2>but they could at nine and two. I'm sorry, they're

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<v Speaker 2>nine and two and they will go two and four

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<v Speaker 2>down the stretch shore. So I guess point is this

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<v Speaker 2>Denver under ten I like a lot, Jacksonville over six

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<v Speaker 2>and a half, I like a lot. And that tease

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bengals to a pick them and the Broncos

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<v Speaker 2>to a pick them. You're not saying Nick saying the

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<v Speaker 2>Broncos under, and you're putting the Broncos in the tease,

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<v Speaker 2>hanging the Broncos and start that you're two and oh

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<v Speaker 2>they start at Seattle and home for Houston. But they

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<v Speaker 2>need to start the year basically seven and one in

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<v Speaker 2>order to hit that over. Give them what their second

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<v Speaker 2>f schedule is so more of that, plus some games

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<v Speaker 2>and some contests between Demanse and I during our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>gambling show that'll be coming up later in the week.

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<v Speaker 2>One more pod this week, then I go to Italy

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<v Speaker 2>and we're back full force with the NFL season. That's

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<v Speaker 2>today's show.

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<v Speaker 4>Goodbye, folks. Remember what I said.