WEBVTT - Choosing a Baby Name

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<v Speaker 1>Who baby A baby? I need you, Oh hell, I

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<v Speaker 1>need you. What to Expect is a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. I'm your host Heidi Murko and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>mom on a mission, A mission to help you know

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<v Speaker 1>what to expect every step of the way. A baby

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<v Speaker 1>by any name would smell a sweet. That's just a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's in a name? Too soon to be parents,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're expecting their first bundle or their fifth, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot hangs on that name. Choice names are, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>for life, for better, for worse, for mispronounced from misspelled.

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<v Speaker 1>Some parents have those baby names picked out before they

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<v Speaker 1>even start trying to conceive boy less and girl less

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<v Speaker 1>first names and middle names. Lucky them. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>still not sold on a name or family only feuds

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<v Speaker 1>are fueling a contentious debate, or you're just playing stressed

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<v Speaker 1>about the responsibility of naming the bundle you'll soon be

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<v Speaker 1>bringing home, you're not alone. Lucky you. We're here to help. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>We are breaking down latest trends in baby names and

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<v Speaker 1>your biggest questions about what to call your little one.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides sweet, I'm here with Emma. A baby I named personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, I didn't like it. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>like nine, I wanted to be in Michelle after Michelle Tanner.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, now I'm happy with it. Okay, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you choose Lennox and Sebastian. So Lennox I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>like a literature baby name book. One night in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night when I couldn't sleep, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Lennox. It's like a Shakespearean play. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's King Lear and his middle name is Page after

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Page. Sebastian's name is a lot more fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to name him something else, and my husband's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to name a Sebastian. What did you want

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<v Speaker 1>to name like West or something. I don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a kin Lennox's class names now, so it would be weird. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so with your names, um, Emma, I love the book

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<v Speaker 1>by Jane Austen, so that was a no brainer. Now, Wyatt,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know the gender with either one of you,

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<v Speaker 1>so if why it had been a girl, he would

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<v Speaker 1>have been Willa, which I still wish I had another

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<v Speaker 1>girl to name Will. I love that name. He broke

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<v Speaker 1>the mold with me, Mom, true that with why we

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<v Speaker 1>were all set on the name Winston until like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven weeks when Eric just all of a sudden realized

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<v Speaker 1>the baby's names should be Wyatt. He's a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Western so that made sense. He's not a Winston,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so a Wyatt. So how far into your pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>were you when you knew the gender? So that gave

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<v Speaker 1>you a head start. Um, I don't pretty like immediately

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<v Speaker 1>like he was like, okay, it's Sebastian. Okay, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Lennox I think halfway through. Okay. So baby names

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, of course, anything seem to go um,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just when it comes to celebrity baby names anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>People get super creative, and for the most part in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, you can by law and name your baby

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<v Speaker 1>anything you want to. I mean, there are some states

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<v Speaker 1>that limit the total number of letters if you add

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<v Speaker 1>up the first, middle, and last name, so it can

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<v Speaker 1>all fit on a legal form um. But those letters

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<v Speaker 1>can spell just about anything. No number. Elon Musk learned

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<v Speaker 1>about the hard way. No numbers, yes, but in other

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the world apparently not so much. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know this until I was digging a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But baby names are actually restricted by law in some countries,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's including countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany, New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, in many countries, you can't name your baby

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<v Speaker 1>something that could be potentially embarrassing or have them made

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<v Speaker 1>fun of or negatively impact a child's well being. Some

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<v Speaker 1>obvious example balls would be Satan Hitler Anus. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't name your baby anus. Governments have also rejected names

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<v Speaker 1>that are even more random, like sexy fruit I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>stuck on anus um. Also, unconventional spellings of traditional names

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<v Speaker 1>are discouraged now. Some countries like Norway and Sweden, require

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<v Speaker 1>that a first name sounds like a first name. Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't name your baby Anderson, So sorry about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson cooper um. Some countries banned brand names, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would include some names that are pretty popular here like Chanel,

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes and in Sweden you can't name your kid I Kea.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with that. Some countries don't allow names that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't gender specific, like the name has to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>right away whether it's a boy or girl, So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of favorite names here would be out, like Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that super cute Charlie, so cute for a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently it's not legal in Germany and Iceland. There

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<v Speaker 1>are also plenty of baby name traditions from around the

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<v Speaker 1>world that date way back. In some parts of Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was so sweet. An elder in the

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<v Speaker 1>village picks the name and whispers it into the baby's

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<v Speaker 1>ear before they announced it at the baby naming ceremony,

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<v Speaker 1>because the belief is that the baby should hear his

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<v Speaker 1>or her name, especially beautiful thing I've ever heard. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going over our community's biggest questions about baby names. So, Emma,

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<v Speaker 1>let's read through some of these messages from what to Expect.

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<v Speaker 1>So we looked at some of the posts about baby

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<v Speaker 1>names on the what to Expect community message boards, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of them. We pulled out some of

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<v Speaker 1>the topics of conversation you all have. Um Emma, let's

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<v Speaker 1>read through some of these and discuss on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the most popular ways people come up with names,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, besides just liking how it sounds for the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually signed thousands of books a year, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have heard just about every baby name out there. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet I've heard it all. I've spelled it all.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are a lot of families, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>sign a lot of books from military families, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those families the tradition is you give your

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<v Speaker 1>baby dad's name. Um, so it's a lot of junior seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>thirds force five. I've had six. I think I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure I went any higher than that that would be impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Some families actually just used the same name for the

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<v Speaker 1>father and son, so for instance, Marcus and Marcus, not

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus senior and Marcus juior, Marcus Marcus. Some do diminutives,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jonathan and Johnny. Um, wasn't it George Foreman who

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<v Speaker 1>named all his sons George. I looked it up and

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<v Speaker 1>he gave each one a number two, So George one

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<v Speaker 1>George too. It's a little confusing maybe, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get the names mixed up. That's a plus. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>some people do. I think this is so cute. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people do. See jays for you know, Christopher John or

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<v Speaker 1>John um ore J's t js and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>those are names that you know, sure their nicknames, but

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<v Speaker 1>their nicknames that you can grow with. Biblical names are

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<v Speaker 1>always popular. Some people choose them because they're religious. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people just choose them because their traditional names. Some families

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<v Speaker 1>keep the biblical theme going for all their kids. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Samuel, Noah, Isaac. Isaiah is one that I

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<v Speaker 1>always forget how to spell Ezekiel, or let's say Mohammed, Aliyah,

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah esther all. This ancestry dot com has brought back

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ancestral names. Now. Some parents named baby

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<v Speaker 1>after where they were conceived. So, Emma, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>been Greenwich Village. I know a mom on Instagram said

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Park after the neighborhood where her baby was conceived.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really pretty. Yeah, it's really pretty. It's like Beyonce's

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<v Speaker 1>line Ivy Park. I'm not mad. A lot of military

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<v Speaker 1>families were always moving around from base to base. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they choose the name from the place that they're based

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<v Speaker 1>when the baby's conceived, so like Hawaiian name and Italian name,

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<v Speaker 1>a Japanese name. I had a mom who didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>the baby's gender yet when I signed her book, so

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<v Speaker 1>I signed it to both the boy and girl named.

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<v Speaker 1>The boy name was going to be Ben after Big Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>not Benjamin Benn and the girl name was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Abbey, after Westminster Abbey. That cute. Um celebrity names.

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<v Speaker 1>One mom told me Reese Witherspoon. She named her baby Reese.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's been a run on Chase. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if that was from Chase Crawford or whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>from Pap Patrol if they have a younger kid, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Pap Patrol. When I was in high school, that name

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty popular to Chase. I like that name. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good, sturdy name. I think it's coming back, making

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<v Speaker 1>a comeback. Sophia is like super popular. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like at the top of the list right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not from Sophia Lorenne. That's what somebody a few

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<v Speaker 1>people told me on Instagram. It was after Sophia Lorene. H.

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<v Speaker 1>I finm sure names like Blake for Blake Lively. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure a lot of character names. Yeah, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of movie characters. So Aurelia from Love actually

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<v Speaker 1>is one that I've heard several times. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite all time movies. Oh yeah, that's a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Disney characters, UM names from music, characters and books. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody mentioned characters from Game of Thrones. I've never seen it. Aria,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen I saw like one season, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. Okay, Eighties TV and movie characters, especially

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<v Speaker 1>for moms of a certain generation. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>any of those constellations, stars, planets, mercury. I hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Greek gods. I get Adonis, Apollo, Ena, Venus, whoa, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of newborn adonis Is. That's adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie Presidents Kennedy. Oh yeah, that's great for I know

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<v Speaker 1>a girl Kennedy. Also, you can use that for both genders. Yep, Theodore,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Teddy Rosevel Well, I love Teddy so

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<v Speaker 1>that I know a teddy girl. And President's kids like Malia.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great one from President Obama. Sports figures Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>after Nolan Ryan. There's also a naming tradition, a Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>naming tradition, where you name your baby after a relative ooside,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't necessarily have to use that particular name,

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<v Speaker 1>but the name should start with the same letter. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also names that come from tragedies, like this year, there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of Koby's and Gianna's. I also

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if Ruth is going to make it come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Ruth Bader. That's the cutest little girl name ever, Ruth,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding? Best legacy ever? Old school names. So

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<v Speaker 1>I love when babies are named like old people, because

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<v Speaker 1>don't they look like little men anyway? A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the time they do. It's literally like Benjamin Button. The

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<v Speaker 1>name kind of fits. So Grandpa names like Daddy is

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<v Speaker 1>or Eugene. That's the best time ever. Parents Bernard, will

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<v Speaker 1>my heart be Stanley? And then this grandma names like Irene, Mabel, Harriet, Edith, Dorothy,

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<v Speaker 1>eleanor has made a huge comeback, Florence. You can call

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<v Speaker 1>it baby flow yeah, except anything about the progressive I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that at the same time. Everyone it

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<v Speaker 1>for me, but God or your aunt flow right, Please

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<v Speaker 1>somebody naming your baby Wilber I know, and or Clarence

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<v Speaker 1>and then d m me and show me a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of them, or Mabel or d m me too. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when people go by the meaning of the name,

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't care. We didn't care, but somehow your

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<v Speaker 1>name's actually fit the meaning. So Emma comes from all embracing,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did not know until I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But all embracing. That's totally you. That's me Why it

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<v Speaker 1>means strong, brave, and hearty, which is like incredible because

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<v Speaker 1>his preschool teacher when he was to described him as stoic.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know many two year olds who are

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<v Speaker 1>described as stoic, but that's why he's definitely stoic, completely

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<v Speaker 1>someone you've met. Sometimes parents will name their kids after

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<v Speaker 1>someone they've met once they really like the name, or

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<v Speaker 1>someone you know, you babysat for now. Popularity is a

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing. No one named their kids Emma or Wyatt.

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<v Speaker 1>When we did, we thought we were picking names that

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<v Speaker 1>would never become popular, and go figure, they're super super popular.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's really no guarantee that when you pick your

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<v Speaker 1>name that is going to remain uncommon. Um. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>like to avoid super popular names. Others embrace trends. They

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<v Speaker 1>hear a name, they hear it a lot, they like it,

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<v Speaker 1>they use it, it doesn't matter if it's about to

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<v Speaker 1>break the top ten. Others look for names that are

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<v Speaker 1>not too popular, not too uncommon, you know, just right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a very important choice. I need to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you one funny story. One mom told me that her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was in high school. He had Bob Marley

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<v Speaker 1>come to him in a dream. Really yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>promised for some reason, he promised Bob Marley and his

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<v Speaker 1>dream to name his firstborn son after him. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she met him. They got married, not her

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<v Speaker 1>and Bob Marley, her and her husband. And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, our son has to be named after

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Marley. And she didn't like the name Bob. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the name Robert, so they named their baby Morley.

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<v Speaker 1>Their firstborn son was Morley, and then they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the music theme, so they named the second one

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<v Speaker 1>Morrison and call may. So it's so cute, Maury, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so great. Have you ever heard of people inventing their

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<v Speaker 1>own name. I feel like that's really popular. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very popular, and you can definitely do that, um, at

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<v Speaker 1>least if you live in the US. Some people blend

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<v Speaker 1>two names together. Sometimes they change a letter, like instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Olivia, it's Olivia with an A, or Arissa instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Alissa or Marissa. But I feel like changing names

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<v Speaker 1>is great because that's solidified that you won't have a

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<v Speaker 1>name that's like super popular. Even if the name was popular,

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<v Speaker 1>the spelling is different, so of like keeps you in

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<v Speaker 1>that unique little bubble. Yeah, some people do Brianna instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Brianna. You can take Oakley and make it Oaklynn.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that a lot. But then your kid gets

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<v Speaker 1>to the gas station or the souvenir shop and there

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<v Speaker 1>are no key chains or cups. There's never a key

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<v Speaker 1>chain for either of my kids. No, And it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no Emma's back when you were growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no Wyatts. Maybe there are now now we're

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<v Speaker 1>lousy with Emma's now they probably are. But actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a blessing, one mom pointed out, because

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't have to buy all those collectibles. True,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of tricky spellings too, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they're on purpose, sometimes not. There must be seventeen ways

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<v Speaker 1>to spell Riley and Kayla and Kylie and Mackenzie. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean even Sarah has to well, actually three ways. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Sarah who spelled s e r A. I met

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<v Speaker 1>a mom whose father misspelled her name on her birth certificate.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could remember for the name. It was

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<v Speaker 1>something super it was super simple, and he didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to spell it, so he put the wrong spelling

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<v Speaker 1>down and she had to live with it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course now it's a great story, that's amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course there's misspelling on purpose creative spelling. My

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<v Speaker 1>sister's name is Sandy with two ease, and that said

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Heidi, but nobody can spell it. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no tricks. It's just nobody can spell Heidi. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people spell my name with one M. It's rare,

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<v Speaker 1>but it happens. So what about thinking whether the name

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<v Speaker 1>has a nickname? Like some just naturally do some don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when you named Lennox, we were thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that means we're going to call him Len, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is such a Len. We call him Len all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cute. With Seby, I don't even call him no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever call him Sebastian. I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you really you need to sit there and like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of all the nicknames that your kid could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly have, because school, school can be rough. What happens

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<v Speaker 1>if you and your partner do not agree on the

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<v Speaker 1>name that I feel like the finals say should be

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<v Speaker 1>going to the person who pushes that child out, that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>or gives birth to it. Somehow did the heavy listing parents?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes they had a mom who told me

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<v Speaker 1>she and her husband talked about it on their first

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<v Speaker 1>date and apparently they agreed on the name so they

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<v Speaker 1>could move to the next step. That's a very important

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<v Speaker 1>first stake conversation. I know some parents have kept a

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<v Speaker 1>list since high school. I have, and you didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>any of them like that. No, I've been in the

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<v Speaker 1>awkward position of signing books. You know, the mom's there

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<v Speaker 1>and she doesn't like the name the dad wants, and

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<v Speaker 1>the dad doesn't like the name she wants, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they asked me to sign the name that they like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel that's a lot of pressure, A little

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<v Speaker 1>awkward about that, but still some people take it so

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<v Speaker 1>seriously they actually do bracket a limit. My husband, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I let him have it because it was his first

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<v Speaker 1>and it was my second. So I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you do you okay, if you decide on

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<v Speaker 1>a name during pregnancy, should you tell your friends and family?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I did not tell. The majority of

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<v Speaker 1>my family told us. I mean my extended family. I

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<v Speaker 1>told a few people, but I kept it on the dal.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of horror stories I've read on what to

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<v Speaker 1>Expect message boards of moms sharing names and people making

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<v Speaker 1>negative comments, which is I've seen that that's so mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can think it, but don't say it, or write it,

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<v Speaker 1>write it in a on a piece of paper and

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<v Speaker 1>just throw it in the trash. Should they never seen you?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say it out loud. Now. A lot of moms

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<v Speaker 1>told me they actually like to share the name so

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<v Speaker 1>that they get personalized gifts for their babies. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did have one mom who did a gender reveal with

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<v Speaker 1>the name. Everything was picked out a whole nine yards,

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<v Speaker 1>picked out the registry based on the gender only, and

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<v Speaker 1>turned out when the baby was born he was a

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<v Speaker 1>she and they had to redo everything. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen often that those mistakes were me, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does happen for me that I feel a little guilty

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because what about the peanut gallery, Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>should you do if there's pressure from a family member

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<v Speaker 1>to name the baby after a relative or to use

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<v Speaker 1>a letter in honor of someone and you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know why people think they get a

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<v Speaker 1>vote on someone else's baby. I mean, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>their grandchild. They just don't get a vote. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>opinions from the Peanut Gallery about your Peanuts name should

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<v Speaker 1>not matter. The problem is that they actually can hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can hurt a lot. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>how I look at it. You made this baby together,

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<v Speaker 1>you raise the baby together, you pay babies bills together,

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<v Speaker 1>You get to name the baby together without outside interference.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the only ones who should have a vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that doesn't stop mothers and mother in laws,

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<v Speaker 1>fathers and father in laws from giving their two cents

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<v Speaker 1>and even saying, you know, I've heard some incredibly hurtful

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<v Speaker 1>things that family members have said, laying on the guilt

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<v Speaker 1>when they don't like your choice. That's not fair, or

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<v Speaker 1>getting all passive aggressive about it, or pressure and you

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<v Speaker 1>even some family members pressure parents to change the name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so messed up. Emma, one of the moms on

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<v Speaker 1>your Instagram said she listened to the Peanut Gallery, actually

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<v Speaker 1>changed her baby's name based on the Peanut Gallery and

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<v Speaker 1>still has name recrap. I mean, I think that's so

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<v Speaker 1>beyond unfair and messed up. You should name your child

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to name your child, not what your

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<v Speaker 1>mother in law wants you to name your child. She

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<v Speaker 1>got to pick her son's name, she should let you

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<v Speaker 1>and your husband pick your name. And also, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fair that if you have decided on a name,

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody to have any sort of voice in that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're kind of throwing names out there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to say, I mean it's not my favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like this one more. That's fine, But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need when that name is solid, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>just let it go. You know what happened with your

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<v Speaker 1>middle name? My mother hated it and we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>because I felt so super guilty and I was so hormonal.

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<v Speaker 1>We added another name to your your official name, just

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<v Speaker 1>to a piece er, and we totally regretted it and

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<v Speaker 1>we never used it. She didn't like my first name either.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she know she didn't like any of it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So the only two people who should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>change baby's name, in my opinion, are the parents. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>tell them to butt out nicely, firmly or not nicely,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what it takes. The hormones talking. I'm pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we really wait to decide on name until the

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<v Speaker 1>baby is born? Is it true that you just know

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<v Speaker 1>when you see them or know that like that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the right name. Three months ago you see your kids like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that is not a Freend, that is a Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it sounds like a movie cliche, but in

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<v Speaker 1>fact a surprising number of parents say this. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>still the minority by far like need to know ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time, but sometimes, you know, kind of use that

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<v Speaker 1>birth moment to solidify how they feel about a name,

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm that it fits. Um. Most parents have at

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<v Speaker 1>least one name picked out already. Some actually do. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard several cass of parents changing the baby's name because

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't fit once they held their baby. Usually they're

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<v Speaker 1>not starting from scratch. Um, they've got a list of contenders.

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>One thing that's actually I remember giving birth, you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, Sebastian's coming. Like it gave me that push

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<v Speaker 1>that I was about to meet a person with a

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<v Speaker 1>name rather than just a baby. I don't know for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of helpful during delivery. Any other tips

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<v Speaker 1>or things that you know we really should be aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an article and was respect dot com with women

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<v Speaker 1>saying what they wish they've known before they picked their

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<v Speaker 1>baby names. Some of the biggest takeaways pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the initials. Babies with TRD, for instance, as initials. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like turd, Alyssa Samantha Smiths. That makes an ass

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<v Speaker 1>out of you and me. Amy Schumer remember changed her

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<v Speaker 1>baby's name after realizing the gene ATel sounded like genital.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at that, though, I mean Lennox is

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<v Speaker 1>lp A little People's Association of America and SETTI is

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<v Speaker 1>s s A, which is Social Security Administration. Oh, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cute. One mom suggests that don't waste the middle name.

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<v Speaker 1>You might need it one day if you have another

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<v Speaker 1>baby of the same gender. Also important, say it out loud. Surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>some parents never end up saying the baby's name out

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<v Speaker 1>wowd they write it down. You know. Something else to

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<v Speaker 1>remember is that you can change your mind. You can

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<v Speaker 1>change your mind right up until you signed the birth

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<v Speaker 1>certificate and leave the hospital. Sure, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>do that, by the way, like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do. I know a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>parents that debated for two days and finally settled before

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<v Speaker 1>they were discharged, and another mom on what to expect,

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<v Speaker 1>regretted not knowing this because she ended up with a

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<v Speaker 1>name like that she was coming up with under pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't really like it, but she felt pressured by

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<v Speaker 1>the nurses to sign the papers, and so she settled

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I'm sure she loves the baby, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my biggest takeaway my baby name. Bottom line, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your decision. It's a lot of pressure anyway to pick

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<v Speaker 1>out a name for life, so you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you pick one without added pressure from anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your time, be open to change in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>when you meet your baby, and don't let anyone tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what to do. It's up to you and your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to share one thing that a mom said

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<v Speaker 1>that was just so incredibly sweet. She said, whatever name

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<v Speaker 1>you choose, make sure you feel love, enjoy when you

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<v Speaker 1>say it. And for me, that says at all. Once

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<v Speaker 1>everyone holds that sweet baby of yours, the name will

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<v Speaker 1>be just as sweet. Baby love, my baby love. I

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