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Speaker 1: On game day it was cruddy. Maybe we maybe were

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Speaker 1: they look at the toll. Their body is taken and

428
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Speaker 1: as you always say, the physical and emotional investment required,

429
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Speaker 1: and they're just like, I'm good. It's exhausting to think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you saw that guard Ali Marpett. He's twenty

431
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Speaker 1: eight years old. He retired from the Bucks. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

432
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: he's got a ring. Yeah, I'm good. And when i'm good,

433
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Speaker 1: I'm you know what, thanks, guys, it was great. I'm going,

434
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gone. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. There.

435
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: I think sha more of it too. I agree, I agree.

436
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: And he still see guys, you know, get kicked out

437
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: of the league and they there's no place for him

438
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Speaker 1: to play and whatever, and then they signed their retirement papers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Gronk has even actually signed his

440
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: retirement papers, right, I don't think, because there are certain

441
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: things you got to fill that for the league to

442
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: say hey, I'm done. I mean that guy's per for example,

443
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Speaker 1: I mean he retired originally at like age thirty thirty one, um,

444
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: because his body was beat up. Yeah, he had a

445
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: string of him a string of badness and he's just like,

446
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm good, and I've I've talked to people close to

447
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: him and they've basically told me Gronk hasn't spent a

448
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Speaker 1: penny of his football playing earnings. He has lived off

449
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: his endorsements from his rookie season. Ond good for him.

450
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Speaker 1: So all the money he's made in his NFL contracts,

451
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: those are all in the bank, right, not a penny

452
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: of his football earnings. He's he's lived off his endorsement earnings.

453
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Speaker 1: UM so good for him, man, bless his heart, but

454
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to get beat up anymore, right, And

455
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: what's he got? Four rings? That's how the game is evolving,

456
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: and it's you know it's going to continue. But you

457
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Speaker 1: get guys like they're just I'm done. Yeah, I'm asked,

458
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: what happened to me? Just? I just couldn't. You couldn't

459
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: dredge up the emotional content to get ready to play.

460
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: And I wasn't physically able to get ready to play,

461
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: because you know, you're always lifting around a sore shoulder,

462
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: a sore elbow, got a bad ankle, can't run, You

463
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: can't do this. So you're doing all this these callisenics

464
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: in order to get to a point where you could

465
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Speaker 1: actually train and work out, right, you did calisenics instead

466
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: of work out, you know what I mean. You did

467
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: these little crazy, little teeny tiny exercise in said a

468
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: big hard training workouts, and it was really frustrating and

469
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: it just wears you down, just wears you down. Twitter

470
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Speaker 1: topic for you today, The players, as we said, have

471
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Speaker 1: a day off today. So which headline from the Bills

472
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Speaker 1: training camp has grabbed your attention the most? What has

473
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Speaker 1: stood out to you that you've kind of witnessed from

474
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Speaker 1: reports or heard from us here on the show. What

475
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Speaker 1: has stood out the most for you from Bill's training

476
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Speaker 1: camp through the first four days. You can get on

477
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Speaker 1: board on the tweet one Bills Live. You can give

478
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: us a call at eight oh three, five fifty one,

479
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Speaker 1: eight fifty two, five fifty. We want to take a

480
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Speaker 1: break here because when we come back, we're going to

481
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Speaker 1: bring you the comments of one Dion Dawkins. We didn't

482
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Speaker 1: have time for his comments on the show yesterday. He

483
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: did address the media and had some interesting comments, particularly

484
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Speaker 1: on what it's like facing von Miller in the practice setting.

485
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Speaker 1: It was a very unique description. We will get to

486
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Speaker 1: that with Dion Dawkins next here on One Bills Live,

487
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Speaker 1: presented by Klatta Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

488
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Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

489
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Speaker 1: with you. Time for us now though to bring you

490
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Speaker 1: the comments of one Dion Dawkins, who had a lot

491
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Speaker 1: to say when he met the media late yesterday. We

492
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Speaker 1: ran out of time on the show to bring you

493
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Speaker 1: those comments. Maybe his most interesting is how he described

494
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Speaker 1: what it's like to pass protect against von Miller in

495
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Speaker 1: training camp practice. Here is DMO dealing today. I mean,

496
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Speaker 1: you guys in the huddle the first couple of days

497
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Speaker 1: in camp, obviously you're working through some things, but as

498
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: it's not going well, you just kind of expect this

499
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Speaker 1: kind of day is gonna come. Yeah, Like, h it's

500
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: a Josh is a ticking time bomb, like you know,

501
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and uh, the team is a ticking like time bomb,

502
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: you know, like whether or not if you're referring to

503
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: like the first day was all right, and the second

504
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: day was better, and the third day was great. You know,

505
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: like we just got in the camp. Like we're in

506
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: like what like day four like already, so it's gonna

507
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: be up and downs like throughout this entire camp, like

508
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Josh have great days you're and you're

509
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: gonna have days where you're like, well, Josh missed a

510
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: couple of passes, so what like that's why. And we

511
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: practice it's almost like taking free throws, like we're just

512
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: attempting shot after shot after shot so we can get

513
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Speaker 1: our repetition to almost be perfect, close to perfect. May

514
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: assume you up as a coordinator, even though Ken's been

515
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: with the team, that that may be contribute to some

516
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: things not being as Chris early on. How accurate would

517
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: that feed if people think that, you know, like with

518
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Speaker 1: a new coordinator, you might have a different beat of plays,

519
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just a different flow of how

520
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: they're of how like they're they're called. But either way,

521
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: it's just football. It's just ball. You know, whatever call

522
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Speaker 1: it's called, we have to like go out there and

523
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Speaker 1: do it. If it's a run play, we have to

524
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Speaker 1: execute a run. If it's a pass, we have to

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Speaker 1: execute it. But with Dorsey being the new guy in charge,

526
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Speaker 1: he's not really the new guy. You know, like he's

527
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Speaker 1: here and we know Dorsey and we know what he's

528
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Speaker 1: about and we know what he's capable of. And we

529
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Speaker 1: know what type of person he is, you know, and

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Speaker 1: uh we understand like going I got there every day

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Speaker 1: in practice that he's going to dice it up. And

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Speaker 1: you know it's just plays, whatever play he puts on,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, his little checkerboard thing. You know, we got

534
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Speaker 1: to do it and execute it at a high level. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you had three guys in Roger, Ryan Spencer today who

536
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Speaker 1: weren't out there there three I think most people reasonably expect,

537
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Speaker 1: you know, that they're gonna be in there. What's the

538
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Speaker 1: challenge like when you're missing that many pieces up front?

539
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Speaker 1: Um missing like that many pieces? I mean it is

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Speaker 1: and what it is like I've been I've been dealing

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Speaker 1: with a rotational line my entire career. And uh, I'm

542
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Speaker 1: just blessed that you know, I'm I'm able to be

543
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Speaker 1: here and play with whoever they put in the next

544
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Speaker 1: to me, you know, like Roger is and dnked up

545
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: and due to some something. So you know, the next

546
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Speaker 1: guy like has an opportunity to show and what they're

547
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Speaker 1: like capable of during camp and you know, it's just ball.

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Speaker 1: But the the difference is that it's newer, newer guys,

549
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Speaker 1: Like it's fresh guys where like we didn't have them

550
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Speaker 1: like last year, so you know it's a different vibe

551
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: understanding how they're communicating. So you know, like when they

552
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: come in and next to me, necessarily I can only

553
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: speak on like my experience and um when they like

554
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: come in, like I'm just telling them how we do things,

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Speaker 1: Like all right, this is what and we do. We

556
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: communicate coming out of a huddle, we communicate through the

557
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: entire play, we communicate and before that ball is snapped,

558
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: this is just what and we do. So like my

559
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: job is to really understand his language and then we

560
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: form that language into a language that we both speak,

561
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Speaker 1: and then we just hit the plays how we hit them,

562
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Speaker 1: and then we just try to execute whatever it's called.

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Speaker 1: You know. But everything happens fast, you know, like it's

564
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Speaker 1: it's day four and I didn't had what like three guards,

565
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's it is and what it

566
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Speaker 1: is it is and what it is as long as

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Speaker 1: we keep Josh cleaning, I don't care, you know, to

568
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: a dispenser, I know, you know he's been out there,

569
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: he hasn't maybe done a lot of the team stuff

570
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: you out of. True, that's coming. But when you kind

571
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: of assess his rookie season and you know what he

572
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: brought to the line. What were your takeaways from his year?

573
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Speaker 1: From so my analysis on Spencer Brown, Spencer Brown is

574
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: as a dog, He's an animal. He's extremely big, he's talented.

575
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: The guy moves extremely well. Like I think that that's

576
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Speaker 1: the number one thing that I've seen about Spencer is

577
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: he's a big guy, but moves like a skill And

578
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: even Doyle like they like they're both one and one,

579
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Speaker 1: like like people are talking about Spencer, but Doyle is

580
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: is just as great, you know. But I think that

581
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Speaker 1: their potential is through the roof, better than me, better

582
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: than any tackle to ever touch the football field. And

583
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I know it, and I hope that those guys are

584
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: learning from everybody who's who's out there. But overall, to

585
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: get back to his analysis, he's a great player. You know,

586
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: he plays hard and he plays with attitude. And if

587
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: you notice Spencer, he's always around the football. And for

588
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: any team, any offensive line, any coordinator, any offense. That's

589
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: the number one thing an offensive coordinator or any offensive

590
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: player once as guys around the football. So for example,

591
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: if the running back is ten yards down the field,

592
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: Spencer will be ten yards down. If Diggs is catching

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00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: a thirty yard pass, Spencer, it's thirty yards passed, you know,

594
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Speaker 1: and that's just for a percentage of error. If something

595
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: happens like a fumble, he's right there. So for a

596
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Speaker 1: guy that big and that size to be able to

597
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: keep up with his stamina and also play with the

598
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Speaker 1: physicality that he plays with, it's amazing. And I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to have Spencer here and I'm happy to help him

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Speaker 1: with whatever I possibly can because eventually, you know, it'll

601
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: be their turn, and you know, I love him for it.

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00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: If you've got that physicality. Our coach Georgy went on

603
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 1: earlier today talk about how physical we want this offense

604
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Speaker 1: to be. You know, with the addition of offensive line

605
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Speaker 1: coach promos, how excited all you to know that, you know,

606
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: especially in the run game that you're playing to be

607
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more physical than forming years. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line, the trench battle is always

609
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be physical. So regardless if somebody says, all

610
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: we wanted to be physical, it's supposed to be physical.

611
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: So we're just supposed to do like do that regardless,

612
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: So you know, being up front in the trenches it's

613
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be a physical battle every play, Like it's

614
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Speaker 1: literally war punches, elbows like all type of stuff. And uh,

615
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: the good thing is is that we got big bodies

616
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Speaker 1: to be physical. You know, I'm a big body, Rogers

617
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: a big body. Spencer Doyle Mitch is a skinny, big body,

618
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: but um, Cody is a huge body. Like all of

619
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: our guys are big guys. So there's there's nothing but

620
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Speaker 1: like physicality written from before that snap starts. So it's

621
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Speaker 1: just it's just good that we just get to throw

622
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: throw our bodies around and just use them as wrecking

623
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Speaker 1: balls because really that's what it's about. We know there's

624
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: a lot of carry over with this offense, but you

625
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: are dealing with a new coordinator and a new physician coach.

626
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: How's that process going in terms of whatever? Might have

627
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: smoother than I expect it, you know, Uh, chrome like

628
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: he is very um specific of what he wants and

629
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Speaker 1: with his technique. So um, like I said, it's only

630
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: the fourth day of camp. So even in myself like

631
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: learning like doing different things like with my body because

632
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: of what he's teaching, it's it's even new. So um,

633
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: it's a challenge, but it's just camp challenges, like like

634
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: it's it ain't nothing drastic, it's just regular camp and

635
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: challenges of everybody just trying to get on that track.

636
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: So when we get on that track and we could

637
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: just flow, but everybody's just trying to just figure out

638
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Speaker 1: their niche and how we're importing what Chrome is teaching

639
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Speaker 1: into us. But uh, it's it's nothing drastic, but it's

640
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Speaker 1: always like, all right, I have to overthink about what

641
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing. It's not click click click boom yet because

642
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: it's it's four days in and not to say that

643
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: we're rusty, but it's just fresh, like it's just like

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Speaker 1: the first day of anything. Like you know, gave question,

645
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Speaker 1: did you know his story of dealing with cancer at all?

646
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Speaker 1: Coming in? Has he shared any of that? So please

647
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: reason for me he's dealt with it in his life

648
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: and for how long? Well, I'm trying to remember football. Wow,

649
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know that. That's a horrible teammate right now.

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Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Yeah, but sometimes guys share stories. Yeah,

651
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: and not yet, but but now, I mean, I mean

652
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Speaker 1: I'm still not gonna like bringing up to him, but um,

653
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for and for telling me that. But

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Speaker 1: now that I like know that, like, like I have

655
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Speaker 1: so much more respect for him because like most guys

656
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: are shut it down, but um shoot, respect to que

657
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Speaker 1: guy like David bring that talking. Just what was it

658
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: like to be alongside that? Well? Um, so I've only

659
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: played the next to him yesterday. That was the first day. Yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was yesterday, Yeah, yesterday, and uh that was the

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Speaker 1: first day that they moved him to guard and was

662
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Speaker 1: just like a rotational thing. But he's a smart player

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Speaker 1: and he's physical. So as long as he's smart enough

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Speaker 1: to communicate and know what he's doing, you know, the

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Speaker 1: sky is really anyone's limit because we're all big, we're

666
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: all fast in certain ways, we're all physical. But you know,

667
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Speaker 1: like there gets to a point where if you're smarter

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Speaker 1: than that next guy, then you have that advantage. And

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Speaker 1: you know, like we all don't take that overly knowledge

670
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Speaker 1: of the game as serious as you know some but

671
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Speaker 1: for the people that actually do, you know, it's special

672
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Speaker 1: because he could play right tackle, right guard. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen center, but left guard and left tackle. Like I

674
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Speaker 1: can't say that everybody can do that, even for it

675
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Speaker 1: and myself, like that would be extremely hard to just

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Speaker 1: jump to right guard, you know, from the like that

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Speaker 1: left side, so you know, I salute, you know, I

678
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: know pads come yet and it'll be totally different when

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Speaker 1: that happens. But what hasn't been, like in the revenue

680
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Speaker 1: you've got again, it's sty physical, man, it is it is.

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: It is already a physical life, you know. Um. I

682
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: was telling h McDermott earlier, like right before like one

683
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Speaker 1: of our team periods. I was like, Yeo McDermott picking

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Speaker 1: up Vaughn was a great, great ad. It was really

685
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Speaker 1: a great ad man. Um Like, not to say that

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Speaker 1: that I don't that I'm comfortable like out there, but

687
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Speaker 1: there's certain times where I'm real comfortable where I indpend

688
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Speaker 1: on my athletic ability. And you know, Vaughan. Vaughan is

689
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Speaker 1: just one of those guys that like to shut down

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Speaker 1: your natural abilities and he's the one with the natural ability.

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Speaker 1: So playing against Vaughan every play, every rep, um, it's

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Speaker 1: a hate love thing because I'm like, dang, you know

693
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying like this, it's one hundred and twenty

694
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Speaker 1: million right here, you know. But um Like, but I

695
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Speaker 1: know over the course of this this uh this season,

696
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: like of the duration, I'm gonna get better, and uh

697
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm blessed to be able to be a tackle

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Speaker 1: playing against him because like I can't imagine if Vaughan

699
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Speaker 1: and was here for six years, like imagine like how

700
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Speaker 1: like like how good all of us like would be,

701
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Speaker 1: So you know, but adding him, it's definitely physical already.

702
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Speaker 1: He has one speed and that speed is greatness. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of people say he's an elite, elite on

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Speaker 1: the left side, but you see him when he's coming

705
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Speaker 1: off the right side, and he's just as good. See,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that like Vaughan, like like Vaughan

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Speaker 1: is good, Like he's just a good player. Like if

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Speaker 1: Vaughan played zero like over that center, like he'll be

709
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Speaker 1: great too, Like like like Vaughan is just a football player, man,

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Speaker 1: and not even like really like realizing like he's in

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Speaker 1: year twelve, like year twelve, like like that is amazing

712
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Speaker 1: that he can be at that level at year twelve.

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Speaker 1: Like that's different stuff, Like that's like Michael Jordan's stuff,

714
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: Like you're just a different type of person, and Vaughan

715
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Speaker 1: is truly that. But once again, I'm thankful for him,

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Speaker 1: all right, thankful for Vaughan only gonna make him better.

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00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: I wanna do you want to sit up and pay

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Speaker 1: attention to camp? Have Von Miller line up across from

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00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: you in team segments. Yeah, it'll sharpen your tools, right.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm telling you, man, he'll get your attention.

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Speaker 1: He's he is chiseled, he is put together. You know.

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Speaker 1: I found interesting in watching Vaughan at camp. You know,

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Speaker 1: in the practices in which he has participated. He did

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Speaker 1: skip one day, I believe it was Monday. He is

725
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Speaker 1: doing like his own extra pt on the side. If

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Speaker 1: he doesn't feel he's taking enough reps in the practice setting,

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Speaker 1: he'll do like some light conditioning on the side, just

728
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Speaker 1: running up and down, doing like twenty five thirty yard runs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's trying to get his conditioning up,

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Speaker 1: trying to keep his heart rate elevated. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the aim is there because he's not sprinting, but

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Speaker 1: he's you know, moving at a pretty good clip, maybe

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Speaker 1: close to a little more than half speed. Yeah. A

734
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Speaker 1: lot of guys who have done that over the years.

735
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Speaker 1: Marcus Alan used to do that, Jerry Rice used to

736
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Speaker 1: do that. You know, after a rep, they would instead

737
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Speaker 1: of going over and taking a knee on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: They'd run, they'd do some sprints. I remember we've played

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Speaker 1: an American Bowl against the Cowboys up in Toronto. We

740
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Speaker 1: were out there doing something. Michael Irvin is running one

741
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Speaker 1: tens about two and a half three hours before the game.

742
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Speaker 1: It's the preseason game, and he knew he was gonna

743
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Speaker 1: take like two reps in the game or maybe not

744
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Speaker 1: even maybe may not play at all. So he was

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Speaker 1: out running one tens to get conditioning in on a

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Speaker 1: day where they were supposed to have a game that

747
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Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play in because they didn't want

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Speaker 1: him get injured. So guys will do that, and you

749
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: know that's your job. You know, you gotta stay on

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Speaker 1: top of that. And now with sports science, and you know,

751
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: the staffs as large as they are for the NFL clubs,

752
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: they'll they'll have people that are able to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you might need to take some you

754
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: might need to do some anaerobic stuff today after practice

755
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: or during practice, and guys take it upon themselves just

756
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Speaker 1: to get it done. Break time for us here when

757
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: we come back an unexpected, unscheduled appearance at a press

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Speaker 1: conference lectern by an NFL quarterback after practice today. We'll

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Speaker 1: tell you where that happened next Here on One Bill's Life,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. It is

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Speaker 1: summertime and Bills take Coach Sean McGurran wants us all

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Speaker 1: thinking about sun defense. Coach is passionate about skin cancer

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Speaker 1: prevention as it runs in his family, and he takes

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Speaker 1: sun protection very seriously. Most importantly, of course, is wearing sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you can stop by your local Wegmans for

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Speaker 1: in their Buffalo, Rochester and Hugh stores. It's a great

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Speaker 1: way to protect your family and help the fight against

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Speaker 1: skin cancer and think sun defense like Bill's head coach

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. And if you are going to be out

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Speaker 1: at camp tomorrow, Saturday, even the next week, there will

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Speaker 1: be a sunscreen booth to get you completely covered and

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Speaker 1: protect it. So look for it out there after you

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Speaker 1: pass through the gates. They're at training camp at Saint

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Speaker 1: John Fisher and University. You've needed it every day, yep

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Speaker 1: I was out there. We mentioned before the break that

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Speaker 1: there was an unscheduled quarterback press conference at a certain

779
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Speaker 1: NFL training camp today, unscheduled one. Kyler Murray shows up

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Speaker 1: in the media room in an effort to defend himself

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Speaker 1: against all the backlash he's faced publicly following the revelation

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Speaker 1: of the independent study addendum in his tract extension that

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Speaker 1: essentially mandated that he spend four hours a week studying film.

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Speaker 1: He said the criticism he has faced is disrespectful and

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Speaker 1: almost a joke that the media criticized him for it.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the interesting thing. First of all, he said

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be in the position he's in right now

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00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: without studying a lot already. But he was asked a

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Speaker 1: question basically, Kyler Murray was asked, are you mad the

790
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: team included that contract clause in his extension. He declined

791
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: to come in that guy, where is that gonna go?

792
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Is that gona? He's either gonna play really well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, as soon as he has a

794
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: couple of bad performances. The first question is did you

795
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Speaker 1: study enough this week? Yeah? Did you live up to

796
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: your contract this week? I don't know. Why he thought

797
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: he was gonna make it better by publicly defending himself.

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Speaker 1: Don't you have to rise above that stuff as a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Well yes, but I mean he brought it on himself

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Speaker 1: to begin with by forcing the team like. They question

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00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: his work ethic in the study, in the studying portion

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Speaker 1: of getting ready for a game. They don't think the

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Speaker 1: guy watches enough film. They don't think he grinds it

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Speaker 1: out like all these other quarterbacks. Do you think, I

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00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: mean the guy. Even back in the day when I played,

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Speaker 1: it was a common occurrence when guys would have a

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Speaker 1: film set up at their house. Quarterbacks watch film on

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Speaker 1: their own time. They got to it's too complicated, and

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals obviously know this guy don't do that. He

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00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. He doesn't grind You got other things

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Speaker 1: to do, no matter what it is. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what it is. They're paying the guy nine figures to

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Speaker 1: be the quarterback of the club of a billion dollars

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00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: our business, and he's he doesn't care enough. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it says. He does not care enough to sit

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Speaker 1: down and watch film and study it the way it

817
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: needs to be studied. And they put it in his

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00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: contract because they knew it. Yep, there's no other way

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Speaker 1: to look at it. Brownie the guy, the guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: care enough. And now he's all high and now that

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Speaker 1: get's facing criticism. And here's here's what's worse. They paid

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Speaker 1: him anyway. I mean, yeah, he's a great athlete. We

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Speaker 1: saw it. The hail Murray. Let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: The highlight of his career thus far, the absolute pinnacle

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Speaker 1: of his career was a hail Mary. Completion was a

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Speaker 1: luck chuck. Yeah, that's the highlight of his career so far.

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Speaker 1: And they paid him anyway, seventy percent of which is guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: He's getting at least seventy percent of that two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty and a half million, and oh get him.

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Speaker 1: And they know there's serious doubts about if he's the

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Speaker 1: guy or not, so they put it in his contract.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna legislate his success. Are you kidding me? That's

833
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: an interesting way to put it. That's a joke, that

834
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Speaker 1: that's a mess. And you know what though, and here's

835
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Speaker 1: the real, the real crux of it, that's how tough

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Speaker 1: it is to win in this it's a hard league

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Speaker 1: to win in. We all know it. That's testament to

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Speaker 1: how hard it is. Kyler Murray's like, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: like I said, the highlight of his career is is

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Speaker 1: one game, midway through a season when he chucked it

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Speaker 1: up for grabs to a guy who doesn't who doesn't

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Speaker 1: play for him anymore or no, he's still he does play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. He chucked it up to DeAndre Hopkins, who

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Speaker 1: makes a phenomenal play against three really good players. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's iconic, great play. That's the highlight of his career,

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Speaker 1: mid midseason game, and like what year two of his career?

847
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Speaker 1: And they think, and the Cardinals are sitting there going

848
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: who else we and a half? Who else we gonna get? These? Are?

849
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: You know? We got no we got no choice? How

850
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: do we make this work? How that's how hard it

851
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: is to win? How do we increase the likelihood of it? Is?

852
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: Bills fans know it? Are you kidding me? We lived through?

853
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: We lived through? Oh my gosh, go down the list.

854
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks we ej Rob, Doug Flutie, Drew Bledsoe

855
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: for a minute, j JP, Kelly, Kelly Holcomb. Who's the

856
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: guy Edwards, who's the guy that got that concussion and

857
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: training before training camp. That was that was um oh dang.

858
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Now the name Cob, yeah right, not Kevin Kevin Cobb.

859
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: I mean, go down the list. That's how hard it is.

860
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: We all Bills fans lived it for twenty seventeen years.

861
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: Matt Castle, Oh my gosh, Matt Castle couldn't play dead

862
00:48:54,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: in a Western movie. And we got to live through that. Yeah,

863
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: we gotta live through that. I don't know. I don't

864
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: know how. Cardinals are sitting there looking at Kyler Murray

865
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: and they're going, we don't really have anything better than this.

866
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: Give him the money. But you know what, here's what

867
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: We'll make a rule. We'll make a rule where he's

868
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: got a study. How do we make this smell better?

869
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Look about the Raiders. Dave drafted JaMarcus Russell. Oh my god,

870
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow first rounder left handed. He even he had

871
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: a book. He's dyslexic. He didn't know right, he couldn't

872
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: see right from left. I stood in the back, bless

873
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: her heart. One time. I'm doing this game on sidelines

874
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: for radio Denver Broncos against Pittsburgh Steaters the playoff. We've

875
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: got family and we just I just got back from

876
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: a family reunion in Colorado, right, so we got family

877
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: out there. My wife goes with me. So pre game

878
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: I get her aside. We're walking a lap around the

879
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: field and she's she's a football girl, obviously, but she's not,

880
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, dialed in, and she goes, she hears it.

881
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: She goes, why are this Why is this Tim Tebow

882
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: thing such a polarizing thing? I go, well, some people,

883
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: you know, he win in games, he's fun to watch,

884
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: he's a superhuman guy, but he just doesn't throw it

885
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: real was She goes, what do you mean have to

886
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: throw it real? Well, So we're in the back of

887
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the end zone and he's out. He drops back into

888
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: the end zone and throws a quick out, just a

889
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: little hitch route, and my wife verbatim this is what

890
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: she said, Oh my god, one throws What is that?

891
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: I said, Oh my god. So that it's hard to

892
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: find that guy. So the Cardinals are now dumping two

893
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: hundred plus million bucks into a guy who doesn't care

894
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: enough to even watch film, hoping he studies more with

895
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: a closet man. You're want to talk about how hard

896
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: it is to win? Bro? Yeah, this is this is

897
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: Chisel it in Stone, man, it is hard to win

898
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: and you need that guy. I'm still thinking about Matt

899
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: Castle playing dead in the Western Um. Okay, we lived

900
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: through it, man, Oh we did. Oh my gosh, we did.

901
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Break time for us here when we come back. We've

902
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: been asking you on the tweet sheet what has stood

903
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: out from the reports you've perused and read or seen

904
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: or heard about the first four days of training camp.

905
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna check in with w ro OC sports director

906
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Thad Brown to see what has stood out for him

907
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: the most through the first four days of training camp.

908
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: We catch up with that next here on one Bill's Live,

909
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at

910
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

911
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

912
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: player for this set. Literally Steve a blimp. We're not

913
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: even in the straged here of normalcy here all right here,

914
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: we are our number two on a Thursday, Chris Brown,

915
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and we've asked you on the

916
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: tweet sheet today to tell us which headline from Bill's

917
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: training cramp camp training cramp. That would be something, which

918
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: headline from Bill's training camp has grabbed your attention the most,

919
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: and we welcome in now w ro OCTV sports director

920
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: in Rochester Thad Brown, who is kind enough to fill

921
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: in for us when we decided to take some vacation

922
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: here on the show with Times and get his thoughts

923
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: on the first four days of training camp. So, Thad,

924
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, especially on a day off from camp.

925
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: What has what has jumped out for you and what

926
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: do you think has maybe slipped under the radar a

927
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: little bit that maybe not everyone has noticed. The number

928
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: one thing to me is Cleil Shakire. I've loved what

929
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: I've seen from the rookie. Not so much a day

930
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: four you yesterday, but the first three days. You know,

931
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: it wasn't spectacular, but for a rookie in his first

932
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: training camp, there are so many plays where he's in

933
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time, you know, finding

934
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: space in his zone, moving to the ball on the

935
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: right way, catches it really well, I mean, a good

936
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: hands catcher, and just doing things that I think you

937
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: would expect from someone who's not or someone who has

938
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: been in more than one training camp, more than one

939
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: week of training camp, you know, for a fifth round pick,

940
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: I've been very very impressed. Now not with the first

941
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: team yet, I think that that's coming. He did get

942
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: a rep with the first team that I saw yesterday,

943
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: not an important he wol didn't play an important part

944
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: in the play, but I really really like what I've

945
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: seen from him so far, and we're gonna go deep

946
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: under the radar. If we're gonna go under the radar,

947
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: I'd watch Luke Cannunity yesterday in the second offensive line

948
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: go against Shack Lawson a Javanessa Boogie basham, and every

949
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: time I looked up, sixty seven was winning a rep.

950
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: So it's no pads, it's not that important, but for

951
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: an under the radar thing that I've seen and liked,

952
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: he is high on my list. After what I saw yesterday,

953
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: I think also I want to mentioned I've liked a

954
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: lot of what I've seen of Nick McLeod and Cam

955
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: Lewis the reserve corners, especially cam Lewis, who one of

956
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: the few guys who want a rep that I saw

957
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: against Shakiir this week, But both those guys were making

958
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: plays pretty often, and I think at this point in camp,

959
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, observations are almost going to be limited to

960
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: receivers and defensive backs until the pads get on because

961
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: the rest of those guys really can't do the things

962
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: you would expect and hope to see from them, you know,

963
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: in a in a football setting. Yeah, I was talking

964
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: to some of the guys on the sideline. I'm gonna

965
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: date myself a little bit. I'm the old guy in

966
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: the room. But you know who Shakier reminds me of. Look,

967
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir reminds me of. And the way he moves,

968
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: the way he runs is the old receiver from was with.

969
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: He's with a couple of different teams, but most notably

970
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns, and it was Webster Slaughter. He

971
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: runs and moves a little You can tell when he's

972
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: got You don't even have to see his number because

973
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: his body and the way he runs tells you he's

974
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: that guy. And it's it's as unique as Webster Slaughter's

975
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: gate was when he saw him run as well. So

976
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: I and I agree with you, it's gonna be interesting,

977
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: and we talk about it all the time, and every

978
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: year it's the same conversation that I want to see

979
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: these guys when the defense defense can hit them, and

980
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: when they can hit the defense. I want to see

981
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: what happens when the pads go on, because right now,

982
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: this is like what these guys have been doing all

983
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: through high school, and that's seven on seven. Basically, it's

984
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: different at this level with defenders who can move and

985
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: hit people. So you're right, And I told Brownie laughing

986
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: when we were talking about how often I've been gone

987
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: during this first week of training camp, nobody's gonna remember

988
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna care about what happened in the first

989
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: week of training camp. In week two of training camp,

990
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: when the pads go on, and they do go on Saturday,

991
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been it's been the same as what

992
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: we saw, you know, back in spring ball, you know,

993
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: when we're seeing in May and June, and you know,

994
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: I very rarely take that any sort of seriously. Now

995
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: it's training camp, so things are getting more serious. But

996
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole different game when the pads

997
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: come on for many different ways. I mean, you know,

998
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: one of the other things that I think people have

999
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: talked about headlines from camp has been the Stefan Diggs

1000
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: kier Elim battle. And you know, yesterday they got into

1001
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: it a little bit, and I think part of that

1002
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: is because Elam is playing a game that might be

1003
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: more appropriate when pads are on, and a guy like Digs,

1004
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, a veteran who's been around seventeen million training camps,

1005
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, understands that. Look, yeah, I understand that you

1006
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: are trying to make a name for yourself, make a play,

1007
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, get a spot ostensibly, but you know there's

1008
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: a time and place for what you're doing, and that

1009
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: time and place is not when we don't have shoulder

1010
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: pads on. So the game in the camp and everything

1011
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: else I think changes, you know, quite a bit once

1012
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: we get the Saturday. I would say that one and

1013
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: the Dawkins Von Miller square offs have been the two

1014
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: headline matchups through the first four days. And again the

1015
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: lineman really aren't getting after it just yet with the

1016
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: pads not on. But still to me, those are the

1017
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: two matchups that keep drawing my attention. There are others,

1018
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: but the name value with Air it's been tough to

1019
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: top through the first four days, I think, well, especially

1020
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: after the Dion Dawkins five minute rant yesterday on how

1021
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: great von Miller is, which I mean as Asdon tends

1022
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: to do the way he explains things. He's like Missus Gump.

1023
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: He always has a way of explaining things so I

1024
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: can understand them. And it's fantastic the way he talked

1025
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: about you know, Von Miller as a rubber band that

1026
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: if you stretch out you expected to break, but Von

1027
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Miller never breaks. And how Miller, even at age thirty three,

1028
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: is the best mover on the field. And you know

1029
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: all the different ways that Dan kind of crystallizes what

1030
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: opinion the neck it's going to be every day in

1031
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: practice for him, and you know the rest of the

1032
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: bill's offensive line, and you know ostensibly as well, how

1033
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: much of a paint's going to be for other offensive

1034
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: lines of the Bill's face that at the end of

1035
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: the day as the hope. So you know, Miller has

1036
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: been everything that's been advertised so far. And even without

1037
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: pads on, you can still see the get off. You

1038
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: can still see the fact that when the ball snapped

1039
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: he reacts and gets moving at just a different level

1040
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: than everyone else. So you know, no surprise is there.

1041
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, you know, you guys in terms

1042
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: of the Dion von Miller thing, We'll get to see

1043
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: a lot more. And really I'm watching Von Miller against

1044
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: everybody because I just want to see Von Miller operate.

1045
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long time since the Bills

1046
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: have had a pass rusher like that. Even when Mario

1047
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: Williams was here and he was a great, great pass rusher,

1048
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: he didn't do it quite the same way that Von

1049
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: Miller does. To have a guy like this with the speed,

1050
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: with the ability in terms of hand technique, to be

1051
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: able to watch him in practice every day, it's been

1052
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 1: fun without the pads on, but I'm really looking forward

1053
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: to how it looks Saturday and beyond. And this is

1054
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: in training camp is also one of the only times

1055
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: of the year we kind of get to observe coaches,

1056
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: and of course Ken Dorsey's been a huge story throughout

1057
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: this training camp because it's his first year's offensive coordinator.

1058
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: But one of the other things I want to ask

1059
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 1: you about is, do you know what do you notice

1060
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: about the rest of the offensive side of the football?

1061
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Brady's new, Aaron Cromer is new, you

1062
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: got a whole new. That side of the offense is

1063
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: completely brand new, almost with the exception maybe Chad Hall,

1064
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: the receiver's coach. What do you notice about you know

1065
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: the way that's if anything, because it's really hard unless

1066
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: you're sitting there listening to what the old guy said

1067
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: and what the new guys coaching like. Have you heard

1068
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: any rumblings about how the you know, the transition and

1069
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 1: the evolution of the coaching staff has affected this training camp. Well,

1070
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: I've been to so many practices that I feel like

1071
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm an expert out it, but I've been doing a

1072
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: lot to where I think I got a good feel

1073
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: for what the transition from Bobby Johnson to Aaron Kromer's bet.

1074
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: I spent a long time yesterday with the offensive line

1075
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: watching Chromer go through individual drills, and it was really

1076
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: noticeable how much Chromer every single rep had very very

1077
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: specific corrections technique, foot placement, and then reasons why, you know,

1078
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: he wants his players to be doing what they're doing.

1079
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: I was very impressed, you know, I don't remember that

1080
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: the last time Chromer was in town watching him as

1081
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: much as I did yesterday. Dean Dawkins talked about it

1082
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: afterward too, that you know, it's different for him. He's

1083
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: learning things in a more specific way, and you could

1084
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: really see it on the field, just exact you know,

1085
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: reasons and locations where he wants the hands, where he

1086
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: wants the feat and you can understand why this guy

1087
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: has gotten such a reputation as a high level offensive

1088
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: line coach. It was, you know, it was something that

1089
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see with Bobby Johnson. I think Bobby Johnson's

1090
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good coach, but Kromer is a different type

1091
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: of coach and it was fascinating to watch him go

1092
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: to work for quite a while yesterday. Yeah, Eric Wood

1093
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: has told us that, you know, what he appreciated most

1094
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: about Kromer when he was here the first time was

1095
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: the fact that he taylor makes specific techniques to the

1096
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: player and their specific abilities. And I'm thinking to myself,

1097
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: he's got like eighteen offensive lineman in here. He's doing

1098
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: that for every one of these guys, I mean, at

1099
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: least the top two teams anyway. That's a lot of

1100
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: extra work. But man, if it makes the player better,

1101
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm all for it. I'm not gonna argue

1102
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: with it. Brown. I will say it seemed to flow

1103
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: naturally to it. It didn't. Yeah, I know, to you

1104
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: and me, it probably feels like it's a lot of work,

1105
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: But just watching him operate it seemed like the mind

1106
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: was working at such a speed and such a precise

1107
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: in terms of instructions. It didn't seem like it was

1108
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: that hard for him. It seem now, Look, he's been

1109
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: in the league a long time. I'm sure a lot

1110
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: of it is natural this point, but it does seem

1111
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: like something that comes very very natural. Chromer. Yeah, you

1112
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: can probably do it with his eyes closed. Um, what

1113
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: do we make of Oj Howard? Because I know some

1114
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: people are saying, well, when's this guy gonna show up?

1115
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: When's this guy gonna show up? And I believe he'll

1116
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: will notice him more, much like a lot of people

1117
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: feel will notice Kayer Elam more when the pads do

1118
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: go on. I think we know Oj Howard is a

1119
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: build up speed kind of guy. He's not, you know,

1120
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: a guy with any kind of suddenness. He's too big

1121
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: and long for that. And so when the pads go on,

1122
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to notice him more, I guess is what

1123
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm anticipating. And I think we'll see the same with

1124
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: Kaye Elam. But Oj, you know, I think people want

1125
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: him to be a threat in this offense, really really

1126
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: really bad. Um, what do you think happens when the

1127
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: pads go on with him. You know, I thought we

1128
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: would have noticed him more already. I think when when

1129
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: you say I want to expect to notice him more,

1130
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm with you. I thought I came into

1131
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: this season expecting Oj Howard to be at least a

1132
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: somewhat integral part of this offense. I mean, you don't,

1133
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, bring a guy like that in without having

1134
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: a plan for him, And you know, thus far he

1135
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: really hasn't been, you know, very noticeable. Now he has

1136
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: been all over the formation. You know, he lines up wide,

1137
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: lines up tight as well. So I've been actually a

1138
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: little surprised at the amount of time I've looked up

1139
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: and seen Oj Howard standing right next to a sideline

1140
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: on a play. But um, I would have thought we

1141
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: would notice more impact from a guy who's as veteran

1142
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: as he is. Granted, you know, he's coming into an

1143
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: offense where a lot of the other pieces are pretty

1144
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: familiar and he's not, so we might be playing a

1145
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: little bit of catchup. He did have a play in

1146
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: the slot the other day or I'm sorry, down down

1147
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: the scene the other day where I thought it was

1148
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: a catch he should have made and wasn't able to

1149
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: pull it in. So look, it's early. It's four days

1150
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: in UM. But I thought I would have seen more

1151
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: on OJ Howard so far, and like I said, perhaps

1152
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: he's catching up a bit. This is still a guy

1153
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, with his athletic ability and

1154
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: not being relied on to be you know, even the

1155
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: number one tight end, you know, Ken certainly have a

1156
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: pretty good future on this team. I just haven't seen

1157
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: him so far. Yeah, and you're right, it is early,

1158
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: and maybe it will change when he gets pass on.

1159
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: But there's also a reason why when he was in

1160
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, I mean, he was injured a little bit there,

1161
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: but Tom Brady's asking, like, man, we need to get

1162
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: Gronk in here. We need some help. And maybe it

1163
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: was because O. J. Howard wasn't everything that we had

1164
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: hoped his potential would show that he is one of

1165
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: the guys you mentioned. You started out by talking about

1166
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: Khalil Shaker. One of the guys I noticed. The young

1167
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: guy is James Cook and it's interesting when I see

1168
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: him play. You tend to project certain things onto guys.

1169
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: When you watch him play. James Cook, it's not too

1170
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: big for him. Everything really looks easy for him. And

1171
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: I know there's no pads and they're not hitting, but man,

1172
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: oh man, he gets open easy. He outruns guys easily.

1173
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: He's running routes and catching the ball easily. I mean,

1174
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: it just has that air when you watch him play.

1175
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: He's just got it under control, and that's really unusual

1176
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: for a young guy at his spot. Well, I think

1177
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: the first part of camp is in his wheelhouse. You

1178
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: know what is James Cook likely going to be best at.

1179
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be out in space, you know, catching passes,

1180
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: moving around. The things we want to see from him,

1181
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: Mark Kenny pick up blitz is you know, as he

1182
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be asked to do a Kenny handle

1183
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: running between the tackles, you know, I don't think that's

1184
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna be his role. But so far, you know what

1185
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: James Cook is going to be good at is just

1186
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 1: being in the open field and making guys miss and

1187
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: using that speed and quickness and agility to win routes

1188
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: in the outside. I mean, look he ar he Charlie

1189
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: Brown the linebacker the other day he made a move

1190
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: and the guys I mean shoes and hats and shorts

1191
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: flu everywhere. It was just one of the sick NFL

1192
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: moves that you want to see out of a guy

1193
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: at this level who's there for the first time. So

1194
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: the speeds there, the agilities there when the pads come on,

1195
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: that's what I'm really waiting for James Cook. I've liked

1196
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: what I've seen from from him so far, but I'm

1197
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: not surprised about that. This is where I thought he

1198
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: would excel in these kind of situations. When it gets

1199
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: real and the hitting starts, that's where I'm questioning whether

1200
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: James Cook, you know, has a future in that part

1201
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: of the NFL game. Now, he could probably have a

1202
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: long career being j D McKissick as a receiver, you know,

1203
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: staying out in the in the flat and you know,

1204
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: using his abilities there. If he's going to be a

1205
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, a real well rounded something close to his brother,

1206
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: the stuff with the pads on is where the questions

1207
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: come in as far as I'm concerned. So I'm very

1208
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: excited to see what he can do. You know, starting

1209
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: next week. If you had to handicap, positions that are

1210
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: going to present the toughest cut decisions for the front

1211
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: office and the coaching staff because I think most would agree.

1212
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: This is a pretty deep roster front to back. Is

1213
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: there a position group or two that comes to mind

1214
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: where you're like, I don't know how they're gonna do this.

1215
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, I was talking to a couple of reporters

1216
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: about the other day and I had a hard time

1217
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: coming up with a position that was tough. You know,

1218
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: you start going through spot by spot, and I kind

1219
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: of all right, I like these six guys at receiver.

1220
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: I think we can probably you know, assume which nine

1221
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: or ten on the defensive line might be there. I

1222
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: think linebacker might be a question, depending on how you

1223
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: want to treat Andre Smith with this suspension coming up.

1224
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: Offensive line is definitely a question. And I think from

1225
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: what's happening in the first week at camp with Saffold

1226
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: and Brown and even Ryan Bates out this part of

1227
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: this early part of camp, you've seen a lot of

1228
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: different guys who have got an opportunity with the first team.

1229
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: And then you know, in addition, you can seeing more

1230
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: guys were getting chances with the second team. So who

1231
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: do the Bills keep? You know, does Tanu to make

1232
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: the roster, a guy that I talked about noticing yesterday.

1233
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: So I think offensive line is a spot where I'm

1234
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: questioning about what they want to do. You know the

1235
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: other thing too about that is previous years you've gone

1236
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: into a season thinking, all right, well, I Mitch Morse

1237
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: goes down. I know who the backup center is. It's

1238
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: John Fliciano. I don't know, is it great bad rot

1239
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: in this year? Is it? Man's who I know has

1240
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: played that position a little bit? So what makeup of

1241
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: the of the secondary offensive line? The backup offensive lineman

1242
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: to me might be the most fascinating part of how

1243
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: the Bills handle cutdown day? And does it sound boring? Yeah,

1244
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: it's because it is. Because this team is awesome and

1245
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of questions. We know, first

1246
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: second team in a lot of places, I like this guy,

1247
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: like this guy, like this guy. It's really hard to

1248
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: look at this roster and say, well, I don't know

1249
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: if I don't want to keep this guy. I don't

1250
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: know if I don't want to get rid of this guy.

1251
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: Because there's so much talent and so many spots where

1252
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are coming back with, you know,

1253
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 1: a group that we're familiar with that I think they're

1254
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: familiar with and comfortable with so I don't know if

1255
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: cutdown Day is going to be all that exciting in

1256
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: many spots. Offensive line for sure, maybe a linebacker. But

1257
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm not even even corner, you know. I think the

1258
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Bills have a pretty good handle on what we're gonna

1259
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: get there most likely. I don't think there's gonna be

1260
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: a ton of controversies this year. Yeah, it's interesting too

1261
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: because every year when when I was coming up, and

1262
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: even in the years subsequent to my retirement, there was

1263
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: always somebody who is a little bit surprising, either made

1264
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: the team or not. Is there a notable veteran that

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Speaker 1: you think, I don't know if that guy's gonna be

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Speaker 1: around A j Epeness has been a guy on that

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Speaker 1: list for me for a while. But the more you

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Speaker 1: start playing the numbers game, I think it's hard to

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Speaker 1: see the Bills moving on from there from him. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: if a guy like Mike Love, who has flashed in

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Speaker 1: a couple of camps, you know, has a really, really

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Speaker 1: good preseason, and then I think you could see that

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Speaker 1: discussion becoming a little more real, you know. By also

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Speaker 1: that spot Shack Lawson to me, I mean that's when

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Speaker 1: I look at veterans, I think might not be around

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Speaker 1: come the first week of September. That spot defensive end

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Speaker 1: has been the one that stuck out to me. But again,

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Speaker 1: you start doing the numbers, you know, roster wide, and

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Speaker 1: it's hard to think the Bills won't be able to

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Speaker 1: keep both those guys. I just think that they feel

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Jake Kumero is a guy who might

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Speaker 1: be on the borderline, but you know, I think his

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Speaker 1: special team's ability is valued enough that he makes the team. Now,

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Speaker 1: if Kumero's on the team, you know, we'll have a

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Speaker 1: discussion about slot receiver because they're not keeping I don't

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Speaker 1: think Digs, Davis, Kumero and then all four guys that

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Speaker 1: we call slot receivers right now. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Kumero makes the team. And you know, j On

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Speaker 1: Crowder hasn't been healthy already for the first week at camp.

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Speaker 1: Sean mcderman talks about it all the time. His favorite

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Speaker 1: ability is availability. If Crowder's gonna continue of injury issues,

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Speaker 1: you might cut himself. But I think Crowder's probably on

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Speaker 1: the team, and maybe there's a little battle between the

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Speaker 1: fourth slot guy and Kumero at the end of the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: taking that a step further, thaid Steve and I did

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Speaker 1: Bills by the Numbers podcast episode late last year on

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Speaker 1: the increase in receivers on fifty three man rosters. They

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Speaker 1: were about six teams last year that carried seven on

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Speaker 1: their roster for more than half the season. You know,

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Speaker 1: injuries come up, you clip a guy here, move a

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Speaker 1: guy there, But they were about a half a dozen

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Speaker 1: teams with seven receivers on their roster. I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the way they run their offense or a

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Speaker 1: candidate for that number one, but also number two. When

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Speaker 1: you factor in the special teams guys like a Kumero

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned, and you factor in the return game

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Speaker 1: competition that's going on, and there are a couple of

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Speaker 1: candidates at the receiver position. What do you think the

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Speaker 1: chances are that when the fifty three man roster is

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Speaker 1: set and finished, that there's seven receivers on the active roster.

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Speaker 1: It's distinctly possible. You know, I don't. I wouldn't bet

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Speaker 1: on it. I think they go six. And again, you know,

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Speaker 1: I wish I had done a roster projection. I'm meaning

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Speaker 1: to go through and do all the numbers and figure

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Speaker 1: out because at this point We're not talking about do

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Speaker 1: the Bills want to keep seven receivers. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: do the Bills want to keep Jake Kumero or do

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Speaker 1: they want to keep a linebacker like Joe Giles Harris

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Speaker 1: or do they want to keep a corner like Cam Lewis.

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Speaker 1: And it's not position specific debates, it's roster wide and

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Speaker 1: a lot of that comes down to, you know, how

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Speaker 1: valuable any of those three guys will be on specialty.

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Speaker 1: So it's always a tough projection of that spot. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, seven receivers is very possible because I think

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Speaker 1: all four Slock guys have proven you know that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about for Slock eyes, it's Crowder, Mackenzie, Shakier, and

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin, you know, have proven to have an ability

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Speaker 1: in this league. Obviously, Shakia has improven anything but fifth

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Speaker 1: round draft pick, he's making the team. So I think

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Speaker 1: having that ability that we know what you can do

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01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: in the league, we know how valuable you can be

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Speaker 1: in the league certainly gives those guys an advantage over

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Speaker 1: a linebacker like Joe Giles Harris, who doesn't have much,

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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of an NFL resume. So again,

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Speaker 1: I apologize that I haven't done the full breakdown and

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Speaker 1: can't dive deeper into this, but just you're looking at

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Speaker 1: it kind of roughly, you know, my gut feel has

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Speaker 1: been there won't be a whole lot of debate over

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Speaker 1: who makes this team when we get to the end

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Speaker 1: of August. Dad, thanks for joining us here. We'll see

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Speaker 1: out there at camp tomorrow. Appreciate it. Always going to

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Speaker 1: be on guys. Thanks. All right, that's w RO OCTV

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Speaker 1: sports director Thad Brown giving us his take on camp

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01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: through the first four days, and a lot will change.

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: I think when the pants go on, and we've talked

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: about it on the show already, some guys shrink when

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01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: that kind of football starts getting played out there in

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01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: the practice setting, and some guys thrive. Yeah something. Yeah,

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: Sometimes guys things change in a way that they can't

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Speaker 1: compensate for that change, and other guys gets into what

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: they do well, and some guys, like you said, they

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Speaker 1: don't shy away from it. And that's that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: It's a big difference when you start getting to the

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Speaker 1: point where guys are going to bang into you purposefully

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Speaker 1: and I said purposefully, like you know, yeah, like I'm

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Speaker 1: pouring myself a cup of coffee on purpose. No, they

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Speaker 1: come in kept with attitude. It's a violent sport, and

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Speaker 1: some guys have a too high a degree of self preservation.

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Speaker 1: And when that self preservation takes over, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: play football. Yeah, I just I think some of those

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Speaker 1: positions might be a little tougher to figure out. And

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of camps still in front of us,

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Speaker 1: and preseason for that matter, for guys to shine and

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: put themselves more in the conversation at a given position,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether it's cornerback, which of which there are

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Speaker 1: some young, unproving guys who want to make a name

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Speaker 1: for themselves. Wide receiver, I think is another position, an

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Speaker 1: old line D line. Um, what happens at running back?

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Speaker 1: Do they keep a veteran like Duke Johnson? Does Zack

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Speaker 1: Moss look better after a full offseason of really getting

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Speaker 1: that ankle that he broke against Indianapolis in the playoff

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Speaker 1: game in twenty twenty? Right? You know, these are all

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Speaker 1: things that I mean. Zack Moss's game is what the

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Speaker 1: pads on, you know, And as Dad mentioned, Chad James

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Speaker 1: Cook's game is in space where past though those two

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Speaker 1: guys could look very different in the coming day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't for running backs particularly, it's different for

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Speaker 1: for wide receivers who go back and try and take

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Speaker 1: handoffs than it is for running backs who come through

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Speaker 1: the ranks in the college game as a running back.

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Speaker 1: Both those guys and James Cook included talking about Zach Moss,

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Speaker 1: James Cook and Devin Singletarry Duke Johnson. Now even Isaiah

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Speaker 1: McKenzie and those guys, even though they take hand handoffs

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield, they're different. They're different cats, and

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Speaker 1: I you know, playing in the SEC in the National

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01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: championship game, James Cook is going to be fine taking handoffs.

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Speaker 1: The contact is not going to be too big for him.

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Speaker 1: You've seen him in highlights and at a high level

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Speaker 1: at college football taking handoffs and running between tackles and

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: chucking guys off. So that, to me, that position is

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Speaker 1: one the vetting process is pretty accurate. They know what

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Speaker 1: you're willing to do, and they've seen you take shots.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver not not so much. You know a guy

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Speaker 1: who you know can can, A guy like an Isaam

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01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: McKenzie of that size from some college you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: come in and start taking handoffs out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's not easy. Some guys, like I said,

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Speaker 1: their sense of self preservation is too big, because you've

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Speaker 1: got to be willing to take a hit. And some

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Speaker 1: guys will take some, but not enough for what a

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01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: position demands. And some guys just that's their downfall. They

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: when the pads come on, they can't hang They're done.

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean they won't. They want no part of it

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Speaker 1: the entire early Yeah, you know, so we'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big day. Saturday's a big day when the pads come on.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fun to see break time for us here

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Speaker 1: when we come back. Your phone calls and your comments

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, which headline from Bill's training camp

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Speaker 1: has grabbed your attention the most? You can tell us

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Speaker 1: at eight three fifty one, eight eight fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty we're back with your comments next here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida helf It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: All righty, then, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here is always or at least most of

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Speaker 1: the time, and we got to get to the tweet

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Speaker 1: cheat brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and leading us

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Speaker 1: off there. As we have asked today, which headline would

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Speaker 1: Bill straining Camp has grabbed your attention the most, Alan

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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: says Diggs versus Elam, hands down, Elam is taking on

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Speaker 1: one of the best end contending. I guess the thing

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Speaker 1: that I liked, and we even talked to Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: about this, was that Elam was not shying away from

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: the nose to exchange. Shall we say, they've been paying

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Speaker 1: to face a couple of times Digg's given him trouble

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Speaker 1: and Elam not backing down. Josh Allen said yesterday their

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Speaker 1: lockermates Kyer Elam is sitting right next to Josh in

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Speaker 1: their lockers, and he said, Elam has no lack of confidence.

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Speaker 1: The guy is supremely confident what he's going to be

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: able to do. And we also know too he's a

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01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: junkie about game plans and knowing what the defense is

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: all about, not just what he does, but everybody what

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: everybody does. One of those kind of guys put all

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: that in the mix, and you got a guy that's

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: willing to go face mask to face mask Steph Diggs right,

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: and you know Diggs isn't going to do it either.

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, asked the asked the New England

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Speaker 1: fans in the back of the end zone how confident

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: he is? Um. Yeah, it's it's fun and it's it's indicative.

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: Good players make other good players better, particularly when they're

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: competing against each other and when they're on the same team.

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01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: You can bet Steph and Kier have had conversations about

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01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: what you know, what you see on that route and

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01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: what did you see? You know, how did you do

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: why did you do this? And when I did that

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: and why? You know, conversations like that happened between teammates,

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: even good particularly good ones, because they get it. You know,

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01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: if if you do that against me, what are you

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01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: doing against them? And how can we win? It's great

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01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: to see you don't see that, I mean, that competitive

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01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: edge out of a rookie, because especially at that position,

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01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: because if you don't have it, you're gonna get on.

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: Dam is going to give up a touchdown probably this year,

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01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a couple, maybe a month. There isn't a

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01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: corner in the league that's never right. But you got

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: to be able to say you know that here's why,

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01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get better. Um, and he is. He

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Speaker 1: will get better. That's the kind of attitude he's got.

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Speaker 1: But that's that kind of intensity this early in training

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Speaker 1: camp is great to see, particularly from young guys, when

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: they jump at and just and just let's go. They're

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Speaker 1: they're ahead of the game. They're really ahead of the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight o three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one fifty two, five fifty and we go to

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Speaker 1: Jason in baton rouge. What do you got for us? Jason,

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's life. This is more of a

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Speaker 1: question for Steve Um. I wanted to ask about the offense. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all remember that Jim Kelly days and

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Speaker 1: you lived it right. We loved it as fans. But

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see Josh come out in the no

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Speaker 1: huddle and run the no huddle Jim Kelly did I

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01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: mean we scored a lot of points when we're behind,

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: like twenty four to three, we were behind against Tampa Bay,

1474
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: and we're behind a lot of times against Kansas City

1475
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: in the playoff, So we're good in the no huddle.

1476
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: Why not just start the game and be aggressive like that? Well,

1477
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: there's no good answer. I mean, certainly they have that

1478
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: in their repertoire. Every team can go no huddle whenever

1479
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: they want. It's it's nothing in the rules against it

1480
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: or nothing that says you can't do it. They pick

1481
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: and choose when and where they use it. And there

1482
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: was a there was a multitude of reasons why they

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01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: ran it back in the day, and there's a multitude

1484
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: of reasons why they don't run it at least very

1485
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: often here in the current time. One if there's there's

1486
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: things that happened our running shoot the K gun that

1487
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and Andre Reid went to

1488
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, running was different in a multitude

1489
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: of ways. One is, we had a very narrow menu

1490
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: of plays, very narrow. We had probably six plays that

1491
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: were that were integral to the game that we'd run

1492
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: every every week we'd run that we'd run those plays

1493
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: against every defense, and then there were also some plays

1494
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: for each specific to each game plan. When you really

1495
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: can't get along in the NFL these days, in my opinion,

1496
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: with such a narrow menu of plays, teams have seen

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: because of Gim and Thurman and Andrea and that James

1498
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: Lawt and that crew. They've seen the no huddle. It's

1499
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: part of lore. Now, it's not new and different. It's

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01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: not like the Bears defense in nineteen eighty five where

1501
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: it was a technological advantage because nobody really had an

1502
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: answer and what you Nobody really knew what you needed

1503
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: to beat it. But now you rarely see you see

1504
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: a Bears front once in a while, but you don't

1505
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: see the forty six defense in its original generation. You

1506
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: don't see it like that for down after down after

1507
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: down like they had it. One was because they had

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01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: a bunch of Hall of Fame guys, quality guys running it.

1509
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: And two was nobody had seen it before, nobody had

1510
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: the guts to play it like that or had seen

1511
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: anything like it, and didn't know how to block it

1512
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: and didn't know exactly where its weaknesses were. Because the

1513
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: weaknesses weren't really weak because you had Richard Dent on

1514
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: the weak side by him and Mike Singletary running the show.

1515
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: That eighty five Bears defense was very similar to the

1516
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: K gun offense. He had a guy in the middle

1517
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: of it like Mike Singletary for the Bears defense and

1518
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly for the Bill's offense, who knew it. And

1519
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: the calls that Buddy Ryan was sending to Mike Singletary

1520
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,879
Speaker 1: was like the same call over and over. He says, coverage,

1521
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: the field coverage, the sideline coverage, the field covers the sideline.

1522
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: That was it. That was it right because nobody had

1523
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: come up with a means to, you know, protect against

1524
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: it right and were you never had two before because

1525
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: nobody had ever seen it before. So teams would start

1526
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: motioning all around. Mike Singletary says, well, when we do this,

1527
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: you've run the same front and same coverage all this time.

1528
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: You knew the adjustments to everything they were gonna throw

1529
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: at you, and Mike Singletary is making sure everybody was

1530
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: on the right page. Jim Kelly, we went out and

1531
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: you had two Hall of Fame wide receivers, one of

1532
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: whom was the maybe the greatest slot receiver ever because

1533
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: he was six two way two fifteen and was built

1534
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: like a bodybuilder. So Andrea was throwing guys off down inside.

1535
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: So you had those two guys running and a Hall

1536
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: of Fame running back to hand it to, and the

1537
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: biggest offensive line in football, so you go fast and

1538
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get to the point where

1539
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: the guys come back and say, hey, this guy can't

1540
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: he can't do it. So Jim go right back to

1541
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: the formations. Put Andrea on that guy. Let's go and

1542
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 1: start just bang bang. They couldn't even make a substitution.

1543
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: That matchup got him killed. So you know, for the

1544
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: same reason that eighty five Bears defense was so good,

1545
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: the same reason that K gun offense was so good

1546
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: was because nobody had seen it before. Now they don't

1547
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: run it because everybody's got an answer for it and

1548
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: if and the detriments to running it and not being

1549
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: successful are much more penalizing for the offense than they

1550
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 1: were back then. Because the offense goes out three plays

1551
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: and out. You've been on the field for literally thirty

1552
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: seconds of real time. You're done, you're off the field.

1553
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: Your defense now you're punting it and your defense is

1554
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: right back on the field. And now they've taken twenty

1555
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: two reps in the first quarter and you've taken six.

1556
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: There you go, you're done. I mean, so that's the reason. So, yes,

1557
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: it was. I agree with you that k gun offense

1558
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: was an absolute hoot to run because it was you

1559
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: played fast, you played simple. The plays were simple. No

1560
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: matter what their defense did, we had an answer for it,

1561
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: either with a physical matchup or tactically. All of that.

1562
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: It was fun to watch, and it was it kept

1563
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: the game moving, It was exciting. You couldn't take your

1564
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: eyes off the field because there was no between plays

1565
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: to take your eyes off the field. Four It was great,

1566
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 1: but technologically teams caught up to it. And so unless

1567
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: you're unless you got a bunch of Hall of Family

1568
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills might Steph Diggs, Josh Allen, these guys up.

1569
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: You know, around that team, you got some pretty good players.

1570
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: Maybe they could do it and get away with it,

1571
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: but not all season long. As soon as you start

1572
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: going three and out a couple of times in a row,

1573
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: put pressure on your teeth. Yeah, your defense starts to crumble.

1574
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: Which headline from Bill's training camp has grabbed your attention

1575
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 1: to the most Tom on the tweet sheet says Brandon

1576
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: Bean finding Steve Tasker seventeen grand and change for missing

1577
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: one Bill's live broadcast stuck in the Denver airport. Okay,

1578
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: thanks for putting that on there, Steve on the tweet

1579
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: sheet says I would say it's the positiveness being reported

1580
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: about the rookies, Elam, Cook, Bernard, and Shakier. Most teams

1581
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: are lucky to get one or two draft picks to

1582
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: be contributing additions. The bills will not be able to

1583
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: pay everyone in the future. But with Bean's draft success,

1584
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: it eases my mind. We have talked a lot about

1585
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: some of these rookies. I mean, yeah, I know, in

1586
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: the four days of training camp and tweeting my observations

1587
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: at the end of every day, I've mentioned all four

1588
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: of those players. Bernard's anticipation skills and ability to read

1589
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: what's coming at him offensively, Cook because he's made it

1590
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: look so damn easy, Elam because he's not backing down

1591
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: from anybody, including days through the first four days. And Shakier,

1592
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: who has looked uncommonly smooth in the passing game. Yeah,

1593
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: and I'm it's I gotta tip my hat to the

1594
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: Steve who tweeted it wasn't me a different Steve tweeted

1595
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: that in most of us are caught so much in

1596
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: the moment right now of this team and what it's

1597
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: going to do this year, you may not see the

1598
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: benefits of having if it's true if all four of

1599
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: these guys end up making the team being contributors, and

1600
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: you get to the end of this season and you know,

1601
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, Dawson Knox, Devin Singletary's up for a contract,

1602
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: ed Oliver is up for a contract the fifth year

1603
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: options time, but yeah, there's time, but all these guys

1604
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: are gonna have to be addressed financially, and Davis in

1605
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: the final year of his rookie deal next year. So

1606
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: you've got yeah, Dave, Dave Davis. So you've got these

1607
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: guys on the horizon who are turning into great players

1608
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: and may want to test the market. Hitting big on

1609
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: guys like Elam, Cook, Bernard and Shakier, it's like, okay,

1610
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: well we can still compete, particularly with the quarterback we've got.

1611
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 1: So that's it's interesting that you go that direction because

1612
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: everybody's in the is so caught up in this moment

1613
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: this season. You forget guys like Brandon being have to

1614
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: think about next year in the year after, but and

1615
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: hitting on these draft picks if they have indeed, Wow,

1616
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: that's awesome. It always helps break time for us. Here

1617
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: we return with some final thoughts on the tweet sheet.

1618
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Next here on one Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health,

1619
01:26:50,760 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. One final thought on the tweet

1620
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: sheet before where we are out of here, Charlie says

1621
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: the report he noticed the most from training camp through

1622
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: the first four days. The rave reviews about von Miller.

1623
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely surprised, but it was great to hear

1624
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Dawkins rave about him, a twenty eight year old, top

1625
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: notch offensive tackle barely keeping up with a thirty three

1626
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: year old. Wow. Also reminded me how much better our

1627
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: ots will be from practicing against Vaughan difference maker indeed,

1628
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: and Nichole's tweets not surprising but attention grabbing. Nonetheless, Gabe

1629
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Davis ramping it up to be an elite receiver this season.

1630
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: Good luck opposing secondaries with Stefon, Diggs and Davis lined up.

1631
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: You'll need it, go Bill, Yes, if you're down the list, though,

1632
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: And I get if the Bills are sitting sitting very pretty.

1633
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: I think most Bills fans, if not all of them,

1634
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: are really happy with the wide receiver room the way

1635
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: it is. Gabe Davis, Stefan Diggs, Jamison Crowder, Isaiah McKenzie

1636
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: and you know Khalil Shakir looking the way he's looking,

1637
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: there's just a lot to like about it. But when

1638
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: you go down the list in the National Football League,

1639
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: every team in the Bill's Division, every team in the

1640
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: AFC has a room of guys they like to Yeah,

1641
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: it's a tough league and you need guys, and you're

1642
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna need Digs and Davis and Mackenzie and

1643
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 1: Crowder and Shakir. They all have to play at a

1644
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: high level to keep it going this year and to

1645
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: win games. It's it's just the way it's gonna be.

1646
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 1: Jt went a different direction, implementing more into our playbook,

1647
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: like duel tight ends and swinging cookout for passes. Our

1648
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: offense was already a beast last season, and in the playoffs,

1649
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: I think Dorsey is going to have a lot of

1650
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: teams confused and scared of this offense. He has added

1651
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: even more to it. We'll see. I mean, right now,

1652
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: you're installing everything under the sun. You're trying to see

1653
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 1: what works. What happens in the preseason games is largely

1654
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: determine what sticks and what gets tossed out the window.

1655
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: That's right, You're trying to give guys a chance to

1656
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: spread their wings and show the coaching staff where they

1657
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: could help the team and if there's room for that

1658
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: skill set they're in. Yeah, Steve's off tomorrow, but I'll

1659
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: be back at training camp. We got Devin Singletary coming

1660
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: your way on the show tomorrow. We'll see what Motor

1661
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: thinks of the first week at camp. We'll see you

1662
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 1: tomorrow at one