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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williams and the Steelers finishing up by

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Speaker 2: practice session number six here as we watch Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 2: break the huddle. This is Steelers Nation Radio in ESPN

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Speaker 2: nine seventies, ongoing coverage live from Steelers training camp here

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Speaker 2: at Saint Fncent College and Darnell Washington moves from right

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Speaker 2: to left on the formation. We get a little action

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Speaker 2: there and Anthony McFarland takes the handoff. Nice little pick

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Speaker 2: up there about four yards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a nice job by Channon Sullivan though, filling that hole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely good job there by the nickel cornerback, but

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Speaker 2: kind of forgets about him and a nickel cornerback, like right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played a bunch of snaps at nickel corner

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, solid, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like you know a lot of the stuff that

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Speaker 2: they've seen today, it's not quite as intense a practice

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Speaker 2: as yesterday's. You knew yesterday was going to be flying.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a uh, you know, maybe a letdown.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what Mike Tomlin says about that.

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Speaker 1: After a couple more penalty he's in snap super It

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Speaker 1: wasn't crisp or as physical not. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: lot of good things got done, but right right enough

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Speaker 1: was good motion. Again, there's two backs on the field

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Speaker 1: starting to get a real feel for this offense. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm enjoying with the way they're viewing it.

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Speaker 1: I just I think he thought that he was going

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Speaker 1: to the outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was Miles boy Can breaking in and.

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Speaker 1: Off for the outs. And well, hard to say who's

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Speaker 1: wrong on that.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't an interception, but the defender to

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Speaker 2: get his hands on it. Yeah, just one of those

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Speaker 2: plays that just a little off here there.

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Speaker 1: Sure not super crisp, no, But it's August second, No,

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Speaker 1: kind of the dog days of camp once you know,

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Speaker 1: once the okay, the pads are on that that everybody's

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Speaker 1: past that test. Yeah, you know, now it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get to a game here. I do think Friday

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Speaker 1: night lights lights it up a little bit, up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I think a little different.

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Speaker 2: Salmon does that and when they yeah, you know, it

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Speaker 2: gives you a little a little different look. And he'll

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Speaker 2: do backs on backers again that night, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just a different, you know, day, different day, giving him

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Speaker 1: a shot up, couldn't come down with it. Who is

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Speaker 1: that receiver they're going to there? Uh, looks like eighty

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Speaker 1: four again? Who again, that is JaMarcus Bradley, the hardest

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Speaker 1: working dude here. I think that guy is the last

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Speaker 2: All literally, Yeah, he is out there a long time

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Speaker 2: after practice.

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Speaker 1: He stayed. Didn't get a lot of separation on that one. No, no,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a badly thrown ball. But he didn't win. No,

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Speaker 1: he did not, he did not.

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Speaker 2: But okay, let's see here, we got in the huddle now,

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Speaker 2: a lot of backups out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.

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Speaker 2: But yeah not that not the most christal practices, but

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Speaker 2: that's kind of to be expected. A little bit of

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Speaker 2: a letdown after after the excitement of the first day

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Speaker 2: and pass.

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Speaker 1: This looks like it might be a run play here.

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Speaker 1: Let's see and I guess I guess correctly. Their big hole,

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Speaker 1: big hole, big hole. Yeah. They cleared that one out.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely nice job in the middle of the line there

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Speaker 2: by again sixty two clearing it out there, Ryan McCollum

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Speaker 1: So wonderful start here to his name a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just kept challenging him and they're moving around

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Speaker 1: him in what's his face? A seventh round pick too,

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Speaker 1: spencer anders Anderson. Yeah, looking for some death linemen, spencer

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Speaker 1: for higher, spencer for hiring four higher at all four

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Speaker 1: spots other than left tackle right now. So yeah, good

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Speaker 1: for him. Exactly more you can do. Yeah, So that's

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Speaker 1: a wrap for practice. That is going to do it.

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Speaker 1: They're all huddled up and then but I'm sure there'll

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sure I would expect maybe a few

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Speaker 1: Would hope a couple of them weren't thrilled with how

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Speaker 1: they played that. Yeah, right, so you stay in your way.

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Speaker 2: I actually asked Roderick Jones about that today, you know

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Speaker 2: again that you didn't do. Quite you're not work on

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Speaker 1: And it's fresh on your mind. You just did it

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Speaker 2: And and you know you're a little bit fatigued after practice,

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Speaker 2: you know, you want to do it post practice here

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Speaker 2: and work on those kind of things. And it's rooming

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Speaker 1: Way, Ah, I like that. Not a not an accident. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it used to be you put the rookies with the rookies,

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Speaker 1: the veteran guys get their own room here. Not so

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Speaker 1: much anymore. Yeah, you hope that's left guard left tackle

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Speaker 1: for many many moons. And he's you know, Isaac already

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Speaker 1: looks like he's the leader of that group. Really really smart,

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Speaker 1: her big brothers together. Wow, they get the room to

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Speaker 1: defensive bunks just like old day. Yeah, mom, shippy up

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Speaker 2: Would be like sleeping on a sub I would think,

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Speaker 2: like the top bunk is in your face.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, like don't get up fast to smash. Definitely

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Speaker 1: what we were talking about there a minute ago. I

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Speaker 1: had something Sam Allow the rooming. Oh yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he just seems like he's a mentor, a leader,

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Speaker 1: a really good player your left side of the line mate.

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Speaker 1: That sounds makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean that just makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: And uh again Mike Tomans the most minute.

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Speaker 1: Detail like that, Oh, it's important.

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Speaker 2: You know who's who's who's locker is next to, who's

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Speaker 1: Oh, I guarantee the coaching Maybe not the staff, but

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Speaker 1: I mean he's putting a stamp on all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Quarter backstoring their push ups right now, they post practice

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Speaker 2: and there's deep their deep squats as Mike Sullivan talks

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Speaker 2: to them about everything. They did have a couple of interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you know when they mean you assume it's

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Speaker 1: some sort of punishment. Yeah, you know, yeah, I made

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Speaker 1: punishments the wrong word. Like they're grounded, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: you didn't have the car to that right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and of course then the quarterbacks kind of

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Speaker 2: stay out here and they'll work on some of those

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Speaker 2: throws they didn't get right.

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Speaker 1: Looks like they'll be some of that for sure. They're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't see too many guys again. Another love

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Speaker 2: the pads coming. Another nice crowd again to day. Maybe

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Speaker 2: not quite as big as yesterday, but still another big crowd.

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Speaker 1: Another a nice day. I mean, weather's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't complain about that. I mean we we

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Speaker 2: have not had any incidences of rain. We had one day, yeah,

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Speaker 2: during practice, but it wasn't anything Danny Smith's special teams

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Speaker 1: Danny deserves that. Every once in a while. You know

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Speaker 1: and sure to live with the elements. A lot of

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Speaker 1: defensive guys are huddling up over there. What's going on? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it almost looks like a prayer type of situation. It

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Speaker 1: sure does. It's just defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like all the defensive backs. Actually the

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Speaker 2: thing is it Mica thing right? I don't know speculating. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Grady Brown was at the middle of it over there,

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Speaker 2: and they're all now they just got off after taking

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Speaker 1: You're right though, I don't think anybody was invited, but DB's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was all the defensive backs. There's

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Speaker 2: much later getting out of their huddle than everybody else,

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Speaker 2: and everybody had their heads down.

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Speaker 1: Some days, like they were saying, well, they were on

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Speaker 2: It could have been for Corey Trice or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: getting a little thin already. Yeah, I'm not like worried

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Speaker 2: But KZ has been back out like today, Casey was

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Speaker 2: in uniform. He just didn't practice, so he's close.

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Speaker 1: They signed his safety today too, right, yeah, okay, So

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Speaker 1: I mean they're just getting their little light on bodies

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's how about the offensive lineman down here,

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Speaker 2: the three centers down there running together, McCollum, Green, and

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Speaker 1: I like Green to win that race. He can really run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what McCollum was. He was running

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. He did it with his pads

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Speaker 1: on what's out like those other guys. But he's a

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Speaker 1: bigger guy. He's sixty two then, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he looks big for a center.

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Speaker 2: The six five three pounds, so he is a taller center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean even like his waist isn't low to

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Speaker 2: What best fit is waiting for him to get his uh,

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Speaker 2: get his pads off here, and I think looks like

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Speaker 1: Someone's going to join up there, just getting working.

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Speaker 2: And I know I talked to Kendrick Green about that

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Speaker 2: of picking Mason Cole's brain constantly, you know, just I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to I want to learn everything I

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Speaker 2: can from that guy. Yeah, you know, he's I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say, you know, he was an established center,

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Speaker 2: but he's done it for a while now in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was successful last year for the most part.

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Speaker 2: So you know, those those two have become have become

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Speaker 1: They all want to see them all do well because

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Speaker 2: Like Presley Harvin is going to practice his passing again.

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Speaker 2: But uh, good stuff today, man, I'm looking here to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those kinds of things do happen, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: not Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlain just finishing up talking to reporters across the

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Speaker 2: them out. I'm sure Mom's like, just let him run,

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00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,400
Speaker 2: keep them getting were not just let him run. He's

434
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: coming over.

435
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 1: Signed autograph. I'm gonna take care of some maus here.

436
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: This is what dad does. Right over and these people

437
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 1: give me stuff and they sign it and they talk

438
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 1: to me like I'm a superstar. I'm in now. He's

439
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: crawling wiped out a little bit. I don't know if

440
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: i'd crawl on that sideline. There's definitely some spittle and

441
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: whatnot there, but some stuff on that ground. Sure they

442
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: got hugged by dad either. Right now, talk about sweaty mess.

443
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of family stuff going on as we speak. Absolutely.

444
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: You know, you're a little over a week indo this year,

445
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: so getting lots of good work in and making sure

446
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: you still do your family stuff.

447
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: It gotta tough. It was a long way, man, Get

448
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: this half hour, maybe get an hour or whatever, you know,

449
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of time.

450
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, of still nobody. I don't see anybody

451
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: over here signing yet. If one the there, there's a

452
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: I can't.

453
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: Tell who that is.

454
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 2: That might be us Elijah Riley down there signing right now.

455
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you're right. I want

456
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 1: to see there's another defensive back down that. It might

457
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: be Levy Wallace over there as well.

458
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: I can't tell, but teams really good about it. Yeah,

459
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: Mason Cole's over there now signing for some people. He's

460
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: been good about the Sun signing again. Too good for him.

461
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, get some get some something someday. Yeah, first one ever.

462
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: He's signed as many autographs as we have. That sounds

463
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: about right.

464
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh But anyways, t J. Watts holding cord

465
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 2: out here in the middle of the field, that's the

466
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: that's the scrum there.

467
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: The goration.

468
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's signing and signing and signing.

469
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: That's not all family. That's some fans obviously.

470
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: That's some sponsors and right right, everybody wants a little

471
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: a piece of t J.

472
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: Watt in those kinds of situations, holding his baby to

473
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: his youngster. I don't know if he has a kid

474
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: or not, but know if he does or not, that

475
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: might be that's Mason. He's everyone that was that's Kenny

476
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Picket down there now. So okay, yeah, Mason Coles kids

477
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: all over the place. I like that. Dude. Yeah, he's

478
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: he's getting about, he's there, he goes, he's on the

479
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: run again. I go sign autographs, Dad, I'm out of here.

480
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: He's looking back to see if Dad's chasing them or not.

481
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day though, but if you

482
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: do come to practice and you know you don't care

483
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: about autograph, you're going to beat the traffic. I suggest

484
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: you hang here and just kind of watch what's going

485
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: on right now, like all the family stuff and some

486
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: goofing off and then there's there are some football stuff

487
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: going on as well. But it just kind of shows

488
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: that they're human beings, you know exactly.

489
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of times, especially football players,

490
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: largely because when they're on the field, they look like

491
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: they don't look.

492
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: Like human beings.

493
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: No, with the path, the helmet, helmet, I think you

494
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: forget that these guys are human beings and they do

495
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: have families, and they're you.

496
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: Know, EyeBlack on and you know, yeah, and.

497
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: They throw their bodies around with reckless abandon like things

498
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: that other human beings couldn't possibly do, and you know,

499
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: you do kind of sometimes forget that, you know, and

500
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: many of them off.

501
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: Many of them don't look like me or you or

502
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: the neighbor or you know, your cousin or uncle, and

503
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: they're big, strong, strapping rare athletes. But they do deal

504
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: with all the same things we.

505
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: Do without ADU, I mean family issues or you know, hey,

506
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 2: can you get up and change that diaper?

507
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: Right right? Right?

508
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Well, why your seasons going on? Things are that nature?

509
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, it does happen.

510
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Then you get ill, you do life and things like

511
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: that too, right right, Yeah, that was one thing you

512
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: know that that like people talk about Ben Roethlisberger and

513
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: he's doing more time with this three small children, true, true, right? Three?

514
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has ten Yeah.

515
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Philip, Phil that really isn't human Phil.

516
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: He's insane. Yeah, he is nuts. I would hope he

517
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: has pays for some help.

518
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: I think he's got more than ten. I think he's

519
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: up to eleven though I thought this last. I think

520
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: they just announced another one. So yeah, Phil is prolific.

521
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: He is a giver of life, yeah he is.

522
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: But uh good James apparently a good trash talker too.

523
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: From Oh I've been Philip Rivers fan. Yeah, I wouldn't

524
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: think that from from him, But no, you think he's

525
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: very straight laced and all that.

526
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently he liked to talk a lot of trash.

527
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't know who the trash talkers are.

528
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: On this team. George Pickens was talking some trash. Yeah,

529
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: he's definitely aggressive by you know his mannerisms.

530
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: I'll say that he made the catch against Joey Porter yesterday,

531
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: Joey Porter caught the.

532
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: Ball look forward on Twitter or whatever if here? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

533
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: all right, I mean he rubbed it in a little. Yeah,

534
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: it was in to him. He was also talking trash

535
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: with Joey Porter Senior over which probably isn't the best idea.

536
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Senior has been known to say a thing

537
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, react poorly to people talking. But

538
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: I would say Pickens is probably the most if you

539
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: asked everybody, my hunch, and there's probably someone we think

540
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: is quiet that if he talks or if it's just

541
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Brash, yeah, brash yeah, yeah. I

542
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: mean he's very competitive, he's very physical, likes to block.

543
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean he takes it seriously, I forget the play.

544
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: What Oh he got the push off against Peterson. Yeah,

545
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: on a long ball, and you mentioned you know, Robinson

546
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: ran over to console them and they spent some time

547
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: together on the sidelines. It bothered him, you know, like

548
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: I was watching him. He was upset by it. I mean,

549
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he thought there was the wrong

550
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: call or it was right, it was the right call.

551
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I say, I don't know what he was.

552
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: He's got to be much more subtle with that push

553
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: if you're gonna get away with it. You can't extend the.

554
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Arms with the hands too, I mean it's just forearm shiver.

555
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: You can get the hand on the hip, yeah, you

556
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: just can't create that separation by extending the arm.

557
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I've told the story too. I mean

558
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: that when I was a pit with Larry, I used

559
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: to give him a hard time. I need to push

560
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: off all the time. I mean he didn't, but he's

561
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: like this is legal, and he put his forearm up

562
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: and just gave me this like three inch shiver. Yeah,

563
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: and I would flying across the room, right, you know,

564
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: like they can create a lot of power while running

565
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: a four to four in pads running down the field

566
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: just with a short area blow like that.

567
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: Well a lot of that too, like you would do

568
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: I would do that playing basketball to redirect guys, guys

569
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: coming through that. So if you're coming through the lane, yeah,

570
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 2: yea yeah, and I've got my arms up like that

571
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: and you run into my arm, yeah, you're going to

572
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: feel right right, it's going to redirect you.

573
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: And and so you know, guys, get your bows up.

574
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: The guys who complain about, oh, you can't believe you're

575
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: doing that in a in a wreck game or whatever.

576
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, look, I just got my arm up.

577
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: You ran into me. Yeah, yeah, you can run around

578
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: me right absolutely. I'm not going to give you a

579
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: free ride right through where you want to go. And

580
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: even if that's not the guy you're covering, right.

581
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: The same thing with that, I mean, you just got

582
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: the you don't as long as you don't extend the arm.

583
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: I think that's what the good receivers, that's what the

584
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: veteran receivers.

585
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: But they can inflict the blow, is my point. Oh,

586
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think you'd get much just from that forearm

587
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: shiver that you're generating all from your your shoulder, but

588
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: you really can.

589
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if if you're coming towards me and then I,

590
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, I had that arm up like that, it's

591
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: going to create that separation because there's going to be

592
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: a push back even if I don't push you back.

593
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: Right right, and maybe he slows up then because of it,

594
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: or you know, some of the real good guys too

595
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: will use that to push them forward so that the

596
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: back shoulder fade's coming, you know what I mean, because

597
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: these guys are running fast and they're trying to find

598
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: a football and it's just one more thing to deal with.

599
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, any cases, you don't see that called again.

600
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: I think.

601
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Typically if if the if the hand is down around

602
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: the waist, yeah, like I said, the hip and you

603
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: don't you don't see it called if you get the

604
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: hand up around the shoulder, Yeah, it's gonna get caught

605
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: or full extension too full extending the full extending, full.

606
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Extensions hard to hide. And I hope, you know, back

607
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: to Pickens, I hope he watches that tape and he

608
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I screwed that up, and don't it again. Well,

609
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: it's good that you know.

610
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons the NFL does bring the officials,

611
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: their game officials out to these practices so you can

612
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: get that kind of lot. It gets the officials reps.

613
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: That's a good point too, you know they get some

614
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: extra work in before the season starts. But it also

615
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: gives the players then an opportunity when something like that happened.

616
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: You saw a couple of different times the player huddling

617
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: with the position coach or Mike Tomlin talking about the

618
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: play with the official.

619
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: And it's not an NFL game day with seventy thousand

620
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: people in the stands and you know clock's going on.

621
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm just using Pickens as an example. But he could

622
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: go over to that official that made that call right like,

623
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: let's what I do? Why would you see there? And

624
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: the official might be like, you know what, you'll get

625
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: away with that. Fifty percent of the time. In that case,

626
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: he wouldn't. But I mean a hold or whatever. It's like, yeah,

627
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: that's probably a borderline call. I figured i'd throw it

628
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: because you know, that's why they have us here.

629
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: You know, Isa I say, I'm all over down here

630
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: signing for a bunch of kids. That's he's actually found

631
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: himself a good spot there. There's a tarp, he's using

632
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: one of the tarps. Oh yeah, to sign everything so

633
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: he can pat on his desk. Yeah, that is a

634
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: veteran move.

635
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: That is smart, right, and it's not too high, you know,

636
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: like this this part in front of us is kind

637
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: of high. That they could get stuff to him pretty easily,

638
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: send him right there in his office, right at his

639
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: desk with his offensive line gloves on, and started signing.

640
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: Signing a bunch of terrible towels and things of that nature.

641
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Good down in town.

642
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, Uh, these are the first towels that

643
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: he's probably signed.

644
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: I would think, Yeah, I don't know. I don't think

645
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: the Eagles had anything such thing. I don't know what's signed.

646
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: A bunch of Yeah, there's a lot of towels signed,

647
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of terrible towels. So good for him. That

648
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: was hard to do. Remember, someone asked us society, I

649
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: mean you and I don't sorry anything ever. And that

650
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: was the first thing or second thing I've ever signed

651
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: in my life, not that I've probably signed four things

652
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: in my life, but that aren't checks. But I was like,

653
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: how do people sign this thing? I mean, it's all

654
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it takes like the surface of the moon.

655
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: It absolutely does. It didn't look like Matt Williamson at

656
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: all when I was done with it. Yeah, he's busy

657
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: down there. He is busy. Good for him. Uh but yeah,

658
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: practice wrapping up here about a half an hour ago.

659
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Here we uh, we got right in front of us

660
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: here signing helmet. He's a lefty, A lefty, Yeah, a

661
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: lefty signer. Oh that is Miles Boycot. Oh, yeah it

662
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: is Okay, I didn't know he was a lefty. He

663
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: is a lefty that shocks people too, like wide receivers

664
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Speaker 1: that can throw. But you're a lefty. Oh, I didn't

665
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: know exactly.

666
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey Porter Junior getting some extra work in out there.

667
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: See him out there after this practice. He is not

668
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: hurt for extra time either. He's he's not out there

669
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: a lot. Did those ball drills with MENCA A couple

670
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: of practices talk about this, What do you think their

671
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: best secondary looks like? We've seen this now, we've seen

672
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: over the week of this. Now. I don't want to

673
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: speak for Max Starks, but we were hung hanging with

674
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: him last night and his perception was a little different

675
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: than what we've talked about. But it's also overlapping, like

676
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 1: he was saying he wants the five to be Wallace, Porter, Minca, CAZy, Peterson,

677
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: which sounds like the best five, you know, I mean,

678
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: that's us crazy talk. But he really thought Peterson more

679
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: of not outside the numbers in that scenario, you know,

680
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: like that would be the best use of all of them,

681
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: which again isn't the most innovative thought I've ever we

682
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: ever heard. But that doesn't include, you know, any of

683
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: the true slots that we're talking about right now. That's

684
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: not the Hilton, it's not the Malet, you know, it's

685
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Peterson is. And I kind of threw the Jalen Ramsey

686
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: comparison with Peterson, Like Peterson, Ramsey doesn't line up outside

687
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: the numbers like he's Drell Reeves. They'd move them all over,

688
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: and I think Peterson could handle that pretty well, you know,

689
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: so I could see that, you know, but Porter has

690
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: to make you trust him right right to make that happen.

691
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: And otherwise he's working kind of on his ball skills.

692
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: You're coming back to the football on the on these

693
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: deep balls, kind of turning around and finding the football

694
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: down the field.

695
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: So in a way, you know, just kind of continuing

696
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: that conversation. Might Porter might be really competing with Chandon

697
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Sullivan to be in the Nicko package, you know what

698
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they wouldn't play the same position. But if

699
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: Porter's not ready, Peterson will be the outside guy. Sullivan

700
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: will probably be the slot. But if Porter's too good

701
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: to stay on the to keep him off the field

702
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: and can be what we think he is, then Peterson

703
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: probably becomes the slot slash star or whatever you want

704
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: to call it, versatile guy and maybe allows Minka or

705
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Kaz to come down and play this a lot, you know,

706
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: so there's options. Porter's arms is just so long. His

707
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: body type is crazy. I mean, after they drafted him

708
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: and he sat down with us at the draft or

709
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: at the facility, was wow, I can't believe you're a corner.

710
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean he'd be rare looking for a wide out.

711
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he really, you know, looks like

712
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner in a lot of ways, very much at

713
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Speaker 2: the length and.

714
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Speaker 1: Maybe even wider shoulders. You're meeting him in person, huge hands,

715
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: really wide shoulders, insane wingspan, But you're right, I mean

716
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: he's all arms and legs.

717
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's that's going to be a problem

718
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: for for you know, quarterbacks to adjust. I can I

719
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: can imagine like situations where Levi Wallace isn't a small

720
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Speaker 2: cornerback No.

721
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Speaker 1: Six one, he's long as well.

722
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Speaker 2: Ye yeah, you know, but talking with him and the

723
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: interview we played back yesterday, he's like I thought I

724
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: was a big corner so I saw these guys h including.

725
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Trit and Peterson is not small. And Peterson is not

726
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: a small guy either. It's pretty thick.

727
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: But not every team is going to be able to

728
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: rep no right, right right, Like you you may have

729
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks and you may have three six foot cornerbacks on

730
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Speaker 2: your roster. You can't rep throwing the ball in over

731
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Speaker 2: top of a six foot three.

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Speaker 1: Cornerback, right. No. I think that's a good point too.

733
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Speaker 1: Or the last four teams we played don't have someone

734
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: that looks like that, you know what I mean, Like

735
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: we haven't we haven't seen that type of challenge in

736
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: a while. It kind of reminds me of the rookie

737
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: from Seattle last year that was fourth round pick. That

738
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: a really good year. You mentioned sa that East, Yeah,

739
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: but hit a really good year too. But wherever he was,

740
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Speaker 1: I mean, just that length goes a long way. It

741
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: really does.

742
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: And I think that's what teams are now looking for

743
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: in you know, in their cornerbacks.

744
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I think so too. You see more cover four. Yeah,

745
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers want to press a lot, you know,

746
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: and these guys have to tackle, you know. Again, they

747
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: don't want to give up the big plays. There A

748
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of the teams'll be happy just tackling the catch,

749
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the Steelers did, like in the Lebau days.

750
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: If you can have a ten to twelve play drive,

751
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: so be it, you know. Yeah.

752
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: The interesting thing yesterday was Matt Porter was out on

753
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 2: the field working after practice with Patrick Peterson and I Taylor,

754
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: Oh right, I'm extra work and so you know, he's

755
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: again he's he's trying to He's being like a sponge

756
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: here as well.

757
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he knows Mike well and all the

758
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: old Steelers of course. Absolutely, what advantage that because of

759
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: my uncle Ike the right, right, What a different perspective

760
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: he has on this team than every other rookie.

761
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Porter and Ike, I should say, Ike and

762
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: h and.

763
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson go way back as well.

764
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Speaker 2: As I wrote about on the Steelers dot com where

765
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: when Brian McFadden used to take all the bunch of

766
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: the Steelers get down to work out with Brian McFadden.

767
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: And he was here today too, Right, he was here

768
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: as well today.

769
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: And Patrick Peterson used to go work out with him

770
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Speaker 2: when he was still in high school.

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00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. Sixteen seventeen, eighteen years old, right? Yeah?

772
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Is that Mitch Trubisky on the twenty It is? Yes,

773
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean his son looks like he just learned to walk.

774
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh, he's he's literally one years old when he was born.

775
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's walking around the NFL football. He spiked

776
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: down the football is almost the big look he's dancing

777
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: after it, right, I mean he's not even up to

778
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: Mitch's knee. He would be knee high to a grasshopper.

779
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: And there we go. He's a better athlete than I

780
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: ever was.

781
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna go to break here. He is Matt Williamson.

782
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

783
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy are ongoing

784
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: coverage live from Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent College.

785
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this.

786
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: When you want Black and Gold football talk, you want SNR.

787
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

788
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

789
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

790
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: We are back.

791
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Ali, he is Matt Williamson, and this is

792
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: a drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy

793
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: and Matt just taking a look at some things happening

794
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: around the league.

795
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Here a little bit.

796
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara meeting with Roger Goodell in New York to talk.

797
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: About his little uh whatnot? Right.

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00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: I guess during during the Pro Bowl event that was

799
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: the bad really bad.

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00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess that doesn't help ye. But the original

801
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: thoughts were everyone thought he was gonna get six games.

802
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: That oregone conclusion. But now that they've settled, and I

803
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: guess it's a been smoothed over a little bit. I'm

804
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: not sure the exact wording to use on that, but

805
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be less maybe two or three

806
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: maybe maybe yeah, maybe nothing, I don't know, you know,

807
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: maybe three and it gets knocked down to two with

808
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: counseling or what have you. Yeah, And they Jabal Williams

809
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: and they took Kendry Miller in the third round, So

810
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: a pretty stacked backfield right now.

811
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Cooper Cup looks like he'll miss a few weeks with.

812
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: A hamstring into a big deal though, you know.

813
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: For a guy coming back off of a serious ankle

814
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: injury as well, right, you start to wonder about Cooper Cup.

815
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's older than you think. Stafford Donald

816
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Cup are really the entire backbone of that team. And

817
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't really have any worries about Donald, but you

818
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: got to be concerned about the health situation with all

819
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: those guys or the availability for seventeen games and quote

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00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: a few weeks that's questionable for week one, you know.

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00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Not that the Rams are one of those teams that

822
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: doesn't play anybody.

823
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: No, they don't play anybody.

824
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't play anybody in the preseason, and well

825
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be playing Copper Cup in the preseason.

826
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: They'd be questionable for week one. Yeah. Absolutely.

827
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett said that Sean Payton broke the code with

828
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: his comments about I get it, said the unringing code

829
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Speaker 2: with his comments about the job that Hackett did in Denver.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's correct because people just don't do that

831
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: through the same walk of life. I mean, I don't

832
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: think I wouldn't have said if I were Peyton. I

833
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: don't think I have said if I were Hackett. You know,

834
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: like you're talking about the unwritten code too. Hey, this

835
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: is the code, don't right? All right? Right? Exactly? Yeah?

836
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: So how about this Peyton Manning is it?

837
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: Is it the Packers training camp? Working with Jordan Love

838
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: a little bit? No, really, just as a consultant.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just visiting. I don't think he may

840
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: be doing one of his shows.

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00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say he's busy now on that quarterback show

842
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: on Netflix. He's the executive producer. Correct, So is he chating?

843
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be one next year too. Maybe

844
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to lobby Jordan Love to be it'd be

845
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: a good one for next year. Yeah. Absolutely, that makes

846
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: no sense. I guess.

847
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: Bengals running back Trevon Williams carted off with an ankle

848
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: injury today speak.

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00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've mentioned it here, but speaking of

850
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: that quarterback show Pittsburgh, Keith cosro Is if you if

851
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: you see the as soon as the credits end, it's

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning the top. Keith is next. He's a year

853
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: younger than me from Lebo. Real good dude. He's worked,

854
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: uh works as an office right across from Greg co

855
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: Sell in NFL film. So maybe we should call him

856
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: up have him on the show. And that's a pretty

857
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: cool deal. Yeah, but I was going to shout out

858
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh.

859
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travon Williams carted off Bengals practice today with a

860
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: right ankle injury.

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00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that running back situation.

862
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Mixon basically took like a he took a

863
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: pay cut just to stick around. I didn't love Chase

864
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: Brown out of Illinois, but his situation might be pretty

865
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: sneaky to be a real strong handcuff. And I didn't

866
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: love how Mixon played last year. You know, Williams is

867
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: more of the receiver type. But all of a sudden

868
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: things are getting a little up in the air with

869
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: that running back.

870
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah they still Chris Evans there as well.

871
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's never really seized the opportunity though. No.

872
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: No, Trey Henderson was out for them Monday with a

873
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: lower body injury. He's been back now, okay, so taking

874
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: they've getting some uh yeah, the borrow things on tough

875
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: stuff just out there with the with the Bengals training camp.

876
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: Did you see there's this story here on Pro Football

877
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: talk about turnover on downs is now subject to automatic

878
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: replay review.

879
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Really yeah, okay, I didn't know that, but I mean,

880
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's as pivotal play as a I mean,

881
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: it's a turnover turnover, right, Yeah.

882
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: I think maybe the thinking was it was a rule

883
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: proposed by the Texans, not the Competition Committee.

884
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, hey, this is a turnover play. Yeah, people

885
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: don't look at it that way. But a missed field

886
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: goal or a missed fourth down really isn't much different

887
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: than if you fumbled to play before.

888
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: Right, you know, and and with more and more teams,

889
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: you know, everybody talks about how how aggressive the Chargers were,

890
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: for example a couple of years ago, going going for

891
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 2: an on fourth down.

892
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: Well, every time they didn't get it, that's a turnover.

893
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: That's a turnover. I mean, that's they call it again.

894
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: It's no different than if Justin Herbert troubled snap on

895
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: third and right an inch and defensive lineman fell on it.

896
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: But it's not looked at it that way. It's not

897
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: that I could go for it and you get it.

898
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: Everybody says, what a genius you are.

899
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: They did it in that playoff game against the Raid

900
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: or that game the final game of the season against

901
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Remember, all they needed to do was to

902
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: right right, and he's going forward in his own end

903
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: like what are you doing?

904
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? And he did get better. He got less aggressively

905
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: as aggressive his second year as he was year one.

906
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: I bet ownership might have been like, Okay, this is

907
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: a fine experiment, and.

908
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: You're getting all the praise from all the analytics nerds out.

909
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: The right and all the mathematicians are telling you to

910
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: do it, but that's why it's not a good play. Like, yeah,

911
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: you get to know when did you know? I get it?

912
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: You want to do it at midfield? You're you're at

913
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: the forty, sure, and you don't want to punt his

914
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: fourth and one. I get it, and I get the

915
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: math of it too. Yeah, you probably gonna make it

916
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: more than you're gonna miss it, and the times that

917
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: you miss it might be worth less than the forty

918
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: yards you gain on a punt, you know. And by

919
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: the way, they twenty and you kick it into the

920
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah, right, right, right right, But the your

921
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: own twenty of course, that I think if I remember correctly,

922
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the opening possession of that second half in that game

923
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: they're in, say, you get to get the ball inside

924
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: their own twenty, and they move it out maybe just

925
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: beyond the twenty's fourth and short, and they go for

926
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: it and they didn't get it, and it's like the

927
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: second just gave away at least three points there. Yep.

928
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: Like Belichick took a lot of heat one time when

929
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: they were playing Peyton Manning in a pivotal game. I

930
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: want to say as a playoff game, was he did

931
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: something similar, But that was out of fear because, like

932
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I know, right, because even all time great on the

933
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: other side, I mean, this was just oh the math

934
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: that you gonna do it right, And it doesn't take

935
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: into account of, man, my right guard can't block this

936
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, you know, and what play call am I

937
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: going to use? You know, like where's my strength to

938
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: accomplish it? You know, there's a it's tactical things more

939
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: and above than just it's the right call I'm gonna

940
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: call it, you know, just going for it just to

941
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: be every time like, oh we're just gonna go for it. No, No,

942
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's crazy talk.

943
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think, uh, you know, but I

944
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: guess that should be reviewed.

945
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not as important as a touchdown, but

946
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: it's just like any turnover. Yeah, pivotal play. It looks like.

947
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 2: Zach Moss is out four weeks with that broken arm. Yeah,

948
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: broken wrist. I believe it is.

949
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Is Taylor back to practicing or I don't believe he

950
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: had anything about in the last couple of days. This

951
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: one not JK.

952
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: Dobbins, and they're listening it as a knee, which of

953
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: course will be a carryover from last year. I met

954
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: with UH coach John Harbaugh, and the coach said he's

955
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: not sure when he will return to practice. Dobbins placed

956
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: on the Puppish for the start of training camp as

957
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: he recovers from knee surgery.

958
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: UH, though Harbass said.

959
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: At the time it's not as simple answer as to

960
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: when he will rejoined the team.

961
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a contract. I think it is too. Yeah, yeah,

962
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: I think it is to I'm sure he's not perfect.

963
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: He was he was making some noise about that. Yeah.

964
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: In the offseason, Rocky sin left practice with a leg injury.

965
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: For them, they don't think it's serious, but still.

966
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Something to monitor. Yeah, keep an eye on the birdies. Uh.

967
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: The Broncos signed Fabian Moreau. He's a former first round

968
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: draft pick the Raiders. Maybe I don't think about the

969
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: cornerback corner. I'm not sure on that.

970
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Tim Patrick with the achilles, yeah the last year. Yeah,

971
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's a good player.

972
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: They lost a handler too, Yeah, kJ Hamler is a

973
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: hard issue. He's done playing football, done forever. H Yeah,

974
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Penn sake stinky too. Maybe they lost the talented corner

975
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: out of Iowa that they took. He's gonna he a

976
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: sports tourney that's going to require core muscle surgery.

977
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: For about four weeks, he was competing for a starting spot. Yeah.

978
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: The corner spot opposite certain is very very up in

979
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: the air. Pen Sewel has been clear to return to

980
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: practice for the Lions cushion. He had a concussion. Yeah,

981
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: so that's The Colts have signed to Mari Rodgers, So

982
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: he just keeps getting jobs.

983
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley has a toe injury and he's not super

984
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: serious over no, no, no, but you do worry about

985
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: that with some.

986
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Of these uh, no, no doubt. Guy. There's been a

987
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: lot of good buzz about Ridley.

988
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 2: But we'll see Isaiah Pacheco close to returning to full

989
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: practice for the Chiefs.

990
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: He's been sitting out. I guess he's the starter. Yeh.

991
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 2: NFL Networks James Palmer reported Pa Checko should be cleared

992
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: for contact by August twentieth. It's a shoulder issue for him.

993
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: You don't like to see that August twentieth. It's a

994
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: long way away. Yes, that's a big chunk to miss.

995
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

996
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 2: For the Raiders, cornerback Brandon face On was carted off

997
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: the field with an apparent injury.

998
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: See how that bad that is? I mean that's a

999
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: really weak position for them.

1000
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: Because absolutely Christian Jackson avoided uh he's a wide receiver

1001
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: for the Vikings. He avoided ligament damage. He was carted

1002
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: off on Tuesday, so that's good news for him. We

1003
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: mentioned the signings Isaiah Dunn and Trenton Thompson, a cornerback

1004
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: in safety for the Steelers. They cut or waived with

1005
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: an injury designation. Alfonso Graham and Corey Trice placed on

1006
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: injured reserve.

1007
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: What position to Graham play? Running back?

1008
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: He had to he had a torn labor from what

1009
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: he put out on the social media so that was

1010
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: going to be his.

1011
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: And obviously a spot unfortunately opened up with Trice. Yeah.

1012
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so they needed a little extra safety help. They

1013
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: make a Fitzpatrick still not here, KZ not practicing, So

1014
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: you need some extra safety.

1015
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh you do, and there's an opportunity for those guys.

1016
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but we're gonna get the break. He is Matt Williamson.

1017
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lawley. You're listening to our live ongoing

1018
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: coverage here from Steelers training camp at Saint Fencent College.

1019
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: We will be back with more and find out our

1020
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: final hour right after this