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Speaker 1: Ron Anian.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say the words refreshing, but it's

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Speaker 2: really Yeah, it's kind of refreshing to see everybody sort

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Speaker 2: of appreciate the value of vehicle. It's a long time coming.

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Speaker 3: Steam roll in apal thunder.

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Speaker 4: Who we're thanking that produce.

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Speaker 2: And don't pani. I'm ach the car Doctor. Let's do

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Speaker 2: the easy stuff. First, check fuse number eight in the

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Speaker 2: underdeath hues box. Make sure fuse number rate's working. That

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Speaker 2: that powers up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was good that It.

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Speaker 3: Would have been nice if that was bad.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage doors.

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Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 2: at eight five five five six NY nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: now he running new customers. Hey, they show up right,

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Speaker 2: and it's a variety, and everybody's got a story.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I always think back to my late father in law

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Speaker 2: who always said, you know, life is all the story.

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Speaker 2: It's all about the story. It's always everybody has a story.

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Speaker 2: You know, Don's gone forty years and I still think

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Speaker 2: about that because everybody does have a story. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you go to the garage sale and they're selling

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Speaker 2: a rocking chair, you're not buying a rocking chair. You know,

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Speaker 2: this is the chair my grandmother used to rock me

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Speaker 2: to sleep in when I was a little kid, and it,

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Speaker 2: you know, traveled west by covered wagon. Of course, I

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Speaker 2: always wondering how far west they could travel from Hackensack

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Speaker 2: to River Edge, New Jersey, because it's only about three miles.

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Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, I guess. You know, back in the

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Speaker 2: olden days when dirt was invented, that, you know, anything

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Speaker 2: west of Hackensack was a big deal. But there's always

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Speaker 2: a story. Twenty fifteen Nissan Infinity. I guess an Infinity.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's not a Nissan Infinity. I guess it's

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Speaker 2: an Infinity. I guess it's a twenty fifteen Infinity. Q

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Speaker 2: fifty came into the shop this week at Ariotomotive and

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Speaker 2: Garrett super nice guy. I mean, one of the nicest,

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Speaker 2: most polite messages on the answering machine that I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: High You know, my name is Garrett, I've got a problem.

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Speaker 2: I tried to put my air filter in. I broke

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Speaker 2: the clip. My wife's gonna yell at me, and now

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, and I you know,

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Speaker 2: it was something like that, and I took I felt

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Speaker 2: sorry for him. You know, nice guy, wasn't He wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't an assumption. It was the kind of person

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Speaker 2: you want to work for, right, an instant communication the

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Speaker 2: new customer. So I called him back and you know,

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Speaker 2: brought him in right away. I said it, I don't

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Speaker 2: drop it off. Let me see what's going on. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: what Garrett had done was he tried to replace the

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Speaker 2: air filter on this Q fifty and he didn't have

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Speaker 2: the air cleaner lid lined up exactly right, and when

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Speaker 2: he tried to get the top clip in, it was

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Speaker 2: under such load it snapped the corner or of the

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Speaker 2: plastic housing off and there was nothing you could do.

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Speaker 2: We looked at it. I said, I explained it all

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Speaker 2: to Garrett. I said, you know, here's the how and

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Speaker 2: the why, here's what I'm concerned about. Let's put an

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Speaker 2: air filter housing on it. It was just under four

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars, so it was an expensive lesson for Garrett.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I said, let's put a couple of

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Speaker 2: real air filters. And he had purchased an air filter

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Speaker 2: on Amazon. I explained the perils of that because you're

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Speaker 2: not quite sure what you're getting. I've purchased stuff on Amazon,

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Speaker 2: not autoparts, but other things that show up. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's not real. We've had this conversation before, you

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Speaker 2: and I we've talken about it for years now on

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Speaker 2: the show. So I said, let's put a couple of

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Speaker 2: real air filters on it. Let's get some quality in

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Speaker 2: this because it's a pair right, a Q fifty has

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Speaker 2: filter housing. So I said, let's do this once. Let's

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Speaker 2: put air filters in it. Let's do the air filter housing.

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Speaker 2: We'll wipe out the throttle bodies and welcome to the family.

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Speaker 2: And then we had the conversation and you could see

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Speaker 2: he was happy, he was eager. He was you know,

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Speaker 2: looking for. You know, they beat their way to your door.

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Speaker 2: They found the automotive expert and they're they're happy. I

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Speaker 2: said to him, you know, Garrett, there's only there's three

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Speaker 2: You know, I said, you're not quite sure where to

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Speaker 2: been happy. I said, you're cheap because you think you

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Speaker 2: can fix a car inexpensively. And I did say that

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Speaker 2: because I'm at that point now where you know reality

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Speaker 2: just not quite sure where to go, and he said

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Speaker 2: don't know who's good, who's fair, who's going to be honest?

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Speaker 2: I said, well, I think that's me, and I explained

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Speaker 2: it all to him. You know, one of the things

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Speaker 2: I get to fall back on is I get to

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Speaker 2: tell somebody, well, I do this this this weekend radio show,

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Speaker 2: and they're like really, and then they have that whole conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's if you're here, you must be real

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Speaker 2: because well, I can't say they don't let idiots on radio,

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Speaker 2: but they don't let idiots on radio and fix cars.

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Speaker 2: So that's just not allowed because you can't be both

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Speaker 2: and still you know, repair automobiles in this day and age.

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Speaker 2: Long story short, we made Garrett a customer. He was happy,

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Speaker 2: he was content, you know, walked him through the process,

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Speaker 2: got him along the path, and I think he'll be back.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he realizes the value in having somebody.

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Speaker 2: He said, you know, you kept me updated, you told

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Speaker 2: was a real positive experience for both of us because listen,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be good for me and him and you.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's it's this is a two way street.

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Speaker 2: It's not just about fixing cars and making money. It's

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Speaker 2: it's the experience of it, that relationship that you build.

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Speaker 2: The second new customer in the shop this week was Bill.

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Speaker 2: Bill got recommended to us by the local tire shop.

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Speaker 2: And I still think about Bill and his car is

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Speaker 2: oh six Nissan CenTra. That that when I tell you

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Speaker 2: on it. So Bill brought me this six Nissan CenTra

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Speaker 2: electrical drain. It would battery would go dead within a day,

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Speaker 2: being charged and all sorts of things, and it just

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Speaker 2: in the door pocket, and there was a sign on

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Speaker 2: the seat next to me to my right that said clergy.

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Speaker 2: So you know, now God sent me a car, right.

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Speaker 2: I keep thinking, you know, this is why Bill walked

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Speaker 2: into my door. Bill's like, I hear you do electrical

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Speaker 2: and you diagnose. I said, yeah, it's been rumored. So

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Speaker 2: the local tire shop trying to fix the the repair

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Speaker 2: the fault. Rather put a battery in it, naturally, they

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Speaker 2: put an alternator in it. Okay, I could sort of

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Speaker 2: it's charging or not. The one I didn't understand was

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Speaker 2: they put a starter in the car. Why would you

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Speaker 2: put a starter in a car for a battery drain.

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Speaker 2: Either the starter works or it doesn't. It's a mixmaster

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Speaker 2: mounted to the flywheel. It's either on or off. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Unless you think the starter is somehow magically engaging itself

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Speaker 2: and causing the engine to crank over without the key

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Speaker 2: activating it. But you got to give me proof, You

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Speaker 2: got to give me a reason. It just can't be.

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Speaker 2: Let's just put a starter in the car. So once

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Speaker 2: they decided that they had fired the parts cannon enough

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Speaker 2: and exploded enough parts all over the underhood of the

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Speaker 2: six Nissan, they figured, well, now it's a good time

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Speaker 2: to tell the customer. It's fifteen hundred dollars. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we don't do electrical and bill ended up on my

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Speaker 2: door and I looked at it, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: set them up. I told him there's basic diagnostic charges.

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Speaker 2: I walked them through the you know, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be so much time on an initial just to get going,

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Speaker 2: which we did. He understood. He was great. He said, hey,

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Speaker 2: fix what you gotta fix, Do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: I need my car hooked up, the meter, ran through it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there was a drain. There was a drain of three

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy one milliams Freia seventy one widgets all

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Speaker 2: right for you guys, if you want to be technical.

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Speaker 2: But it was a three hundred and seventy one milliam draw.

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Speaker 2: After a forty five minute wait, waiting for all the

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Speaker 2: seventy one Milliams is a pretty good draw, and I

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Speaker 2: had looked the car over prior. I always do. Know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you have to look today. Is there is

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Speaker 2: there a cell phone charger or some sort of charging

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Speaker 2: something in a cigarette lighter porter or a powerport somewhere

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Speaker 2: you don't see. I opened the trunk, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about is the is the light on underneath

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Speaker 2: in the trunk? It wasn't. I think we talked about

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Speaker 2: this last week where I said, you know, when Danny

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Speaker 2: in there, closed the trunk, the light went out. We

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Speaker 2: looked at it on a video on the phone, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we knew it wasn't that. But yeah, we

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Speaker 2: had a draw. Where do you go? I almost made

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Speaker 2: a video of this, but I ran out of time.

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Speaker 2: And I apologize because and everybody wants to see this.

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Speaker 2: But we started pulling fuses. There was two fuse boxes

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Speaker 2: on this vehicle, went under the hood, one under the dash.

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Speaker 2: I'm old and tired, so I always go for the

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Speaker 2: easy one. I went for the one under the hood.

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Speaker 2: Why not let's start there, and I went through fuse

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Speaker 2: one two. I got the fuse thirty two. Circuit number

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Speaker 2: thirty two is the fuse for the radio. And as

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Speaker 2: soon as I pulled that fuse out, bang my draw

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Speaker 2: went away. It went down under fifty I think I

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Speaker 2: went to forty two milliams, and if I sat there

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Speaker 2: and watched it, within another ten minutes, it dropped down

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Speaker 2: to about seven milliams, so I knew I was on

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Speaker 2: the right piece. I looked up circuit thirty two, fifteen

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Speaker 2: amp fuse. It powers the radio, and it was a

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Speaker 2: straight shot right to the radio, making it very direct

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Speaker 2: and very clean in that it goes to the radio.

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Speaker 2: Unless there's an aftermarket something installed, unless somebody modified the

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Speaker 2: wiring diagram, it goes to the radio. So at this

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Speaker 2: point I called up Bill. I explained what I had found.

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Speaker 2: Then he said, you know, he said, I remember when

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Speaker 2: they put that radio in, which kind of got my interest. Right,

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Speaker 2: how do you remember when they put the radio win

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Speaker 2: if you bought the car new which is part of

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Speaker 2: our initial conversation. He said no, no, no, He said,

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Speaker 2: somebody had shown up, oh, probably five or six years ago,

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Speaker 2: maybe longer. And they put the radio in in my driveway.

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Speaker 2: That's an aftermarket radio. And I went, wow, really it

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Speaker 2: looked factory. It really did. I couldn't see the difference.

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Speaker 2: And if they shovel their feet and they look down

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Speaker 7: If you call and we're not live, you can leave

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Speaker 2: Is, Hey, let's get over and talk to Let's go

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Speaker 2: to curtain Arizona. You're on the card doctor. How can

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Speaker 3: Hello Ron?

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, I've got a twenty ten Ford f one

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Speaker 3: What I'd call a very light kind of grind, grinding noise,

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Speaker 2: Four wheel draws.

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Speaker 3: The car seems to be it's got a four wheel drive.

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Speaker 2: As it happens, well, stop and put it in a

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Speaker 2: You can try power breaking it, you know, sitting still

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Speaker 2: you looked for a loose heat shield. You know, is

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Speaker 7: Kurt?

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Speaker 2: That's all okay? You know if you if you were

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Speaker 2: So if the noise goes away, and I bet it does,

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Speaker 2: So are the are the four wheel drive actuators partially on?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so you know the easiest transfer.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm thinking I'm thinking it's the actual front

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Speaker 3: It was not a do that though.

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Speaker 2: Stop the truck. You can't. You can't shift on the

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Speaker 3: Well, I can, but I'm usually it's usually going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, And if you stop and it's making if it's

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Speaker 3: No, not typically interesting?

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Speaker 2: And how fast are you going when this happens?

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Speaker 3: Usually over forty miles an hour?

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Speaker 2: You can't shift into four wheel drive at forty miles

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Speaker 3: Well I can? But can can you be on on

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Speaker 2: If you're going straight, I can tell you I've shifted

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Speaker 2: But you know, you know, at that point I would,

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Speaker 2: like this, if you're traveling down a snowy road and

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Speaker 3: I once broken a drive train on a truck keeping

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Speaker 2: So that's well, yeah, because are you are you turning

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Speaker 2: you know, four wheel drive is four wheel drive. Brother,

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Speaker 2: Check your owners manual, then call me back. We can

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Speaker 2: We're back. Right after this, the news had.

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Speaker 4: Come out in the First World War, the bloody rat

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Speaker 4: Barren was flying once more. The Allied commands ignored all

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Speaker 7: Was the night for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Forty welcome back. That's right, the Christmas is coming. I

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Speaker 2: think that's next week. By the way, Tom, I'm making

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Speaker 2: but I do have to leave right after the show

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Speaker 2: next week because I've been summoned North.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well I've I've already arranged the arm guards to

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Speaker 2: So because this year, this year, Santa is getting twin superchargers.

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Speaker 2: So because we have to get in there, there's some

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Speaker 2: So excellent.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Well we have to avoid we have to avoid some drones.

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Speaker 2: We've got all kinds of things to deal with. So

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Speaker 2: go north. I can't tell you where though, so be nice.

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Speaker 2: You're getting coll and your stocking. Let's go over to

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, let's go over to Micah and May and Michael.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, brother. How are you today?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great. You know, Tom must have known that

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Speaker 5: you had your Airplane podcast are coming on because he

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Speaker 5: played the Airplane Christmas song.

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Speaker 2: There you go. It's always best. I always know it's

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Speaker 2: Christmas whenever I hear snoopy they're doing this thing. So absolutely,

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Speaker 2: what can I do for you today?

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Speaker 3: Ron?

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Speaker 5: Last week you were talking about after market remote or

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Speaker 5: some things that you kind of left out that needed

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Speaker 5: I have found with the OEM remote starters, typically what

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Speaker 5: it'll shut down, but you can't restart it a third time. Now,

431
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 5: when you live in Maine and you don't have a

432
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 5: garage and you're trying to heat up the car and

433
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 5: you're trying to get the windshield defrosted and all that,

434
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 5: it may need to run longer than that in order

435
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 5: to get the ice melted, but you can only do

436
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 5: it twice with the remote start, and there's no way

437
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 5: to adjust it. At least I found that on the

438
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 5: Subarus and I found that on the toyotas. I don't

439
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 5: know about the GMS, but it wouldn't surprise me because

440
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 5: I was told this is done for safety, so that

441
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 5: you don't overheat the car or that you don't destroy

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 5: the car, and that can be an issue. The other

443
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 5: thing that I found with the oem ones is that

444
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 5: you can certainly start the car, and you know, you

445
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 5: can leave the defrost on if you want to, but

446
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 5: you can't do anything else. I use an aftermarket one,

447
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 5: and the aftermarket one that I have, I can set

448
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 5: it up to do other things, and I can turn

449
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 5: on the rear window shield defrost or defoger to help

450
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 5: start melting things off the rear of my car. Rear

451
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 5: window of my car, so when I go out to

452
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 5: clean it, it's already slightly melted and I'm not outing

453
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 5: away at the ice that's built up on it. And

454
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 5: I think those are important things to note as well

455
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 5: as I can talk about what to look for in

456
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 5: an aftermarket installer, but well, I think those are really

457
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 5: important things to know about there.

458
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: You know, they're a concern, Micah, but I you know,

459
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: understand the manufacturers are doing or limiting the time trial.

460
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: Most likely one of the primary reasons is they're concerned

461
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 2: about catalytic converter into emissions because it's all about clean air.

462
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 2: Brother that's that's really their biggest concern. So there's a

463
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: reason why they're only letting it go fifteen minutes or

464
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: ten minutes. My problem, and I don't necessarily have a

465
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 2: problem with it because I've yet to see a catalytic

466
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 2: converter on a good running, well maintained vehicle have an

467
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: issue from extensive idling. Look at police cars, they idle

468
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: all day long, emergency vehicles, right, you know you don't.

469
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: You don't see cat failures like that. So because and

470
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: I've gotten that as an excuse out of manufacturers, that

471
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: it's there to protect the cat, I think the reason

472
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: they limit the time is simply because of the green

473
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: world orderers. We'll call it that we're worried about a mission,

474
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: we're worried about polluting the environment, when in reality, it's

475
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: as you say, in Maine, I be worried about can

476
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: I see out the windshield. I love these people that

477
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: tell me, hey, don't warm the car up. It's not

478
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: necessary on a modern vehicle. Yeah, you go out there

479
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: in Maine when it's fifteen below and try and chip

480
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: the ice away and see if you can get the

481
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: snow off the car. But to the guy in southern California,

482
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: that's not important. My problem with aftermarket installs is it

483
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: depends on the install How are they doing the install?

484
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: Are they cutting factory harness? Is it just plug and play?

485
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: I have no problem with a plug and play provided

486
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: it's been tested, tried and true, because understand for you

487
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: and everybody else, what they're doing is it's basically taking

488
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: a Dell laptop or an IBM computer, some major name

489
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: brand that's been thoroughly tested in the lab and inserting

490
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 2: an aftermarket video card that you don't know the consequence

491
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: of the impact of how it will affect the risk

492
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: of the system, the operating computer. And that's my problem

493
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: that it causes you know, where's that glitch and you

494
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: don't know.

495
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: I completely agree with you, and that's why when I

496
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 5: go for an aftermarket like this. The company that I

497
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 5: go with has been doing this since nineteen seventy three,

498
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: and so they know what they're doing, and they know

499
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: what products that they're offering me. They know how to

500
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 5: handle it with each car, and they're going to be

501
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 5: there to stand behind it.

502
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: Who's the company, who's the company?

503
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 5: The company. The company that I work with is a

504
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 5: company called Pine Tree Mobile Mobile Sound in South Portland, Maine.

505
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 5: And it's a small shop. There's only two or three guys.

506
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: And you know, and the father and the son of there.

507
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 5: The father sits in the back rooms continuously change smoking cigarettes.

508
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 5: But he's a great guy. His son has been doing

509
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 5: it forever. And you know, and it's a it's a

510
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: it's not a beautiful shop. But they do everything from

511
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: boats to RVs, I mean with sound systems and everything

512
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: and and and and their installs are perfect, and you

513
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 5: know they have an installer that's a savant.

514
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: You bring up You bring up another point too, in

515
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: that radios and stereos. You know, this time of year

516
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: is somebody going to get a car stereo for the holidays.

517
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: And you know how that radio goes in can have

518
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: a major effect because everybody needs to realize and what

519
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: we're really talking about here is installing a remote start.

520
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: It's how are we affecting the computer network that that

521
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: remote start is being intertwined too, just like a radio.

522
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: You put a radio into a system today and if

523
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: it's not properly installed or properly thought out and designed

524
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: by the manufacturer. Maybe communication with the other modules down

525
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: the line from that radio no longer works, you know.

526
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: It's I'm completely with you, yeah, on my on my SUBERU.

527
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: The radio is the entire computer module for the whole car.

528
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 5: And if the radio doesn't pick up my USB songs

529
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: that I have plugged in there, I got to restart

530
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 5: the car to pick that up.

531
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: You know, it goes and I'm with.

532
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: You know, you and I come from the time go ahead,

533
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you and I come from the time I

534
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 5: may have sold you radio at Crazy Eddies on Root

535
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: seventeen in Paramus because I used to sell car stereos

536
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 5: all the time for years. It's come a long way

537
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: since they Yeah, yeah, it's just a very different time.

538
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: I thought you looked familiar. I'm only kidding, you know, Micah.

539
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: The concern becomes, I just don't want anybody to think

540
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: any aftermarket install will work. I actually and you know,

541
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: remote starts. I've got an email here somewhere. Remote starts

542
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: are big on everybody's mind this time of year. Let's

543
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: see this one came to me, Hey, Ron a long

544
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: time listener to your show. I'm in Pennsylvania. I was

545
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: listening last Saturday and a gentleman called in wanting a

546
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: remote start in his Toyota. A couple of things regarding that.

547
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: I know for a fact Toyota does offer a factory

548
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: dealer installed remote I have a twenty nineteen that I

549
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: purchased new and it had the fact a remote start.

550
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: To this day, I'm able to use the remote start. Yes,

551
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: there's a plan I guess we're talking about, and that's

552
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: something I want to talk about. Subscription plans on remote starts.

553
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: When you use it with the app on your phone,

554
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: that's buyers in six months. So remote starts are a

555
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: big part of everybody's mind this time of year. I

556
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: just want to, you know, reiterate that it's only as

557
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 2: good as the install and there's going to be there

558
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: are going to be certain limitations with factory, but to

559
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: a degree it can be the safest. However, a qualified installer,

560
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: a knowledgeable installer. It's no different than going to a

561
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: shop and asking them to put brakes on your car.

562
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: They know what parts work, they know what parts don't work.

563
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: So dealing with an installer is the way to go

564
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: where I cringe, Mica and for everybody else's benefit. Is

565
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: the guy who walked into the shop this week. He's

566
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: put getting a remote start for his daughter on Amazon

567
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: and he's looking for a shop to install it. I

568
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: would run from that like your hair was on fire,

569
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, because.

570
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 5: Coward some of the mass market shops right right there

571
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 5: are mass market shops out there. I don't want to

572
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: name any names in this case, but you know, they're

573
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: cutting wires and they're crimping wires, and that's not good.

574
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: But it's also a question of the company, the quality

575
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 5: of product you're buying. I know that my car has

576
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 5: a module from from iData Link and they make the

577
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 5: modules for everybody and they look at that stuff and

578
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: they know the cars and they know what's going to work.

579
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 5: And then it's a crime stop or remote that goes

580
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: in onto the I Data Link module. So you know.

581
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: And again the reason that I know that is because

582
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: my shop knows what to work with and it's been

583
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 5: working with these companies for years. That's what you gotta find.

584
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: They know what let us and tomato you need to

585
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: make the salad, right, So yeah, exactly, I get it.

586
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: I get it as Mike as always, sir, always a

587
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: pleasure to talk to you. You keep them coming, you'd be well.

588
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: You have a good holiday, all right.

589
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: Brother, take care of a wonderful Christmas.

590
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Bye bye. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We're

591
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: back right after this. It's beginning like Chris.

592
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: Take a look in the five and ten.

593
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Trick or tree, no long holiday.

594
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 7: Don't forget Santa is watching. I had to remind my

595
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 7: dogs that the other day. Now I got to remind you.

596
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, I have special access because without me,

597
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: Santa doesn't fly.

598
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 7: So just so he told me that unless you're good,

599
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 7: you're not getting any cocoa on the troop this year.

600
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Well, I can't drink cocoa anymore anyway. I'm getting old,

601
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: and we have to make too many pit stops, and

602
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily to overhaul the sleigh. So I want

603
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: to wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait.

604
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 7: Wait, you're going to work on the sleigh, so install

605
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 7: something so you don't have to make a pit stop.

606
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: I never thought about that, so I could. I could

607
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: use it when I'm when I'm over the bad parts

608
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: in the world. So we'll we'll dump on them first.

609
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: I want to talk about John and his twenty seventeen

610
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: Ford escape, and he tried to do his own battery

611
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: and he was successful for about four months. And I

612
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: want to talk about one of the key mistakes that

613
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: he made, and it was it was interesting, right, he

614
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: had the car towed in, it died on the road.

615
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: It had some electrical issues going on, and I think

616
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: it really had to deal or do with the battery

617
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: that he put in. John's a regular customer, we see him.

618
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: We've been trying to tell him put a battery in

619
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: the car for a while, and he finally did, but

620
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: he missed a key step twenty seventeen four to escape,

621
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: he went to I'm gonna tell you where he got

622
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: a battery from Walmart. And nothing against Walmart, but I

623
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: you know it's you know, it's I just don't know

624
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: if the quality is there on everything. I'm not saying

625
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: everything Walmart has is terrible, but I've seen this more

626
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: than a few times. Some of their autoparts, they remind

627
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: me of Seers and some of the great retailers that

628
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: are no longer with us. They claiming they had the

629
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: best in everything, and their business model didn't work out

630
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: so well because they're not in business anymore. So this

631
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: Walmart battery went in, and you know, it had a

632
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: weird failure. Part of the problem was in John's method

633
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: of install, and part of it was the battery itself

634
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: because the car got towed in. It had an electrical

635
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: failure where the computer was shutting down because of a

636
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: voltage issue. It was protecting itself. It wasn't even going

637
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: into limp in mode. Its going to shut off mode.

638
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: You know.

639
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: I would see charging system voltage creep up over fifteen

640
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: and a half vaults, and the car would just shut

641
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: itself off. So I took the battery out and sat

642
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: it on the bench and I charged at the level

643
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't that low, and I load tested it. I

644
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: actually tested it three different ways. I have four different

645
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: battery pieces of machinery there. I can do it four

646
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Speaker 2: different ways, and it failed three out of the four.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even do the fourth one because I had

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00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: seen it fill each and every time, so to me,

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00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 2: the battery was at fault. I took that battery, put

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Speaker 2: it on the bench, and put another battery in, and

651
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: the charging system was still registering higher than normal. And

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00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: when I talked to John, and I asked him the question.

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00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: I said, John, did you ever register the battery when

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Speaker 2: you put it in? When you first installed it? And

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Speaker 2: I heard like a pregnant pause, and he was like,

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Speaker 2: what you know? Did you take a scan tool out?

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Speaker 2: Did you tell it that you had replaced the battery

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Speaker 2: and do a battery system reset because you have to

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Speaker 2: do that on certain vehicles. Now, if you see a

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Speaker 2: clamp around the negative or positive cable, usually it's around

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Speaker 2: the negative. That means that the battery. The computer is

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Speaker 2: looking at current load and what's going on on the

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Speaker 2: electrical system, and it's going to affect how it charges

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Speaker 2: the battery. Now, I don't know which came first, a

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Speaker 2: chicken or the egg. To me, the battery was a problem,

666
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Speaker 2: but not registering it was a problem. Also not telling it, Hey,

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00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: I changed the battery, put a fresh battery in. It

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Speaker 2: made a difference, but not a lot of difference. Registered it,

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Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, the vehicle's fixed. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not a fan of Walmart batteries, but

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00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: I will tell you this. You do have to register

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Speaker 2: a battery when you put it in. That's a very

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Speaker 2: very important step. Make sure you're doing that Hey. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next in the shop, the AutoZone Repair of the Week.

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Speaker 2: A new feature here on the Car Doctor. Come on back.

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00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it right after this. Welcome back. My

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Speaker 2: named the Car Doctor. We repair the week this week,

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Speaker 2: and this is a new feature. We're going to do

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Speaker 2: this every week, so get used to it. If you

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Speaker 2: like it, let me know if you don't like it,

681
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: let me know. If you're a pro and you're hearing this,

682
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: let me know your thoughts too, good, bet or indifferent.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're here to help you, guys. Come to

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Speaker 2: make it easier to repair cars if that's possible. We

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Speaker 2: know it's tough every week. We know it's a daunting task,

686
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Speaker 2: and that's part of what this radio show is about.

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Speaker 2: To help you, the pro you know, be better at

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Speaker 2: what you do. But also you learn from us, We

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Speaker 2: learn from you, and it's a good exchange and we

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Speaker 2: all move forward. We had a twenty seventeen if I'm

691
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Speaker 2: not mistaken, twenty seventeen Ford Explorer in the shop recently

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Speaker 2: that had an airbag fault, and I think we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this prior, but I never really talked in depth

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Speaker 2: about what it took to fix the problem.

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Speaker 7: Or.

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Speaker 2: The fault related to the passenger side under the seat

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Speaker 2: airbag connector. The customer had allowed a box of Kleenex.

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Speaker 2: You guys know how they all these things seemed to

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Speaker 2: collect on the floor, and they had this box of

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Speaker 2: Kleenex stuffed under the seat. And after constantly moving the

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00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: seat back and forth as different people had gotten in

702
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: and out of it, the Kleenex box kept hitting the connector,

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: kept hitting the connector, kept hitting the connector. There's a

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00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: bulletin from Ford actually talks about relocating the connector itself

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Speaker 2: and zip tying it up out of the way, and

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00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: several modifications to the wire routing, and it finally broke

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Speaker 2: the harness. It broke the connector. We really needed both sides,

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00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: but we weren't able to get it. We weren't able

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Speaker 2: to get the harness side. We were only able to

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00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: get the side that went to the module itself. We

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Speaker 2: found it an AutoZone, and I have to give credit

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Speaker 2: to them the way they have their websites set up

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Speaker 2: that you can go and look at connectors and match

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Speaker 2: them by size and shape. That's what did it for us.

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Speaker 2: It can do it for you too. Remember AutoZone has

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Speaker 2: expanded coverage and they have the availability online. I'm on

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Speaker 2: an Andy and the car Doctor, reminding you until the

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Speaker 2: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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