WEBVTT - Bonus: The Next Incel Killer Already Has A Playlist 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.800 Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.039 just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.000 This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:30.560 to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.239 a little thing we like to call the after party. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.520 This is the show after the show, the party after 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.480 the party, the bridge to get you from one full 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.720 episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.680 into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.960 confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.560 we're talking about music that the Incell movement loves. What 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.839 we're digging into the greatest rock and roll records of 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.440 all time. Thanks to our new episode on ACDC rewinding 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.880 back to You two and the Murder of Rebecca Schaeffer. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.400 Previewing next week's new episode on Fish, when we get 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.400 into your voicemails, text, dms, and as always, a whole 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.560 lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.680 the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.640 history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Lams where 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.800 I tell the stories they didn't want told the kind 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.640 he'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:33.640 get into it. In nineteen eighty five, they blamed ACDC 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.000 for inspiring serial killer Richard Ramirez. In nineteen eighty nine, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.160 actress Rebecca Schaeffer's murderer Robert John Bardo, claimed you too 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.680 compelled him to kill. In twenty eighteen, Scott Barelli walked 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.000 into a Florida yoga studio and shot and killed two women, 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:54.840 wounding several others before taking his own life. Music has 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.120 always been an easy scapegoat, but it's never the songs. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:04.520 It's always who the killers already were. Scotparelli was an INCEL, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:10.239 part of a group of involuntarily celibate men, young aggrieved 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.320 dudes who believe the women who reject them and the 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.280 more traditionally masculine men who outshine them exist to keep 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.920 them down. This is also a group whose members have 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.799 killed before and will kill again, and it's a group 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.079 that loves music. Jazzy Lupido nine to A eight M 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:34.280 three Me's scissor with one C and a Z. These 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.280 are the online user names for the creators of Spotify. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:43.760 Inceel playlists with titles like Inceell Virgin loser Core, Chronically Online, Autistic, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.680 four Chan, Suicidal and Real Older Brother Niche Weird Kid, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:53.200 Inceell in the Underground loser Core. If there's one theme 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.840 that ties the songs on these playlists together, it's isolation. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.920 Songs like Just by Radiohead Scott Pilgrim versus the World 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.560 Ruined a Whole Generation of Women by Negative XP in 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.920 the Aeroplane by the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel, and 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.400 an excellent and batshit crazy cover of Dion's nineteen fifty 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.400 nine hit Teenager in Love by bird Bath. The music 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.760 is angsty and irreverent and lives on the nerdier side 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.239 of the street. More Rivers Cuomo and less Kirk Cobaine 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.200 and lots and lots of Marssey. The Smiths occupy a 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.560 special place in Inceell music playlist culture. There are entire 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.720 in Cell playlists dedicated to tunes penned by Stephen Patrick, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.360 Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and it makes sense few bands 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:46.280 in the last fifty years have better captured despair in alienation, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.560 and not to mention the fact that Marssey for much 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.760 of his career publicly identified as celibate. When Incell Scott 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.760 Barelli killed two women and injured five others before taking 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.440 his own life into tallahow Hot yoga studio. He did 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:08.480 so after posting his own music online angry, sneering, hostile songs, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:14.360 not metal, not hardcore rap, but instead lo fi rejection rock, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:19.679 rage turned inward, not dissimilar from Radiohead or The Smiths, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.680 or well most of the music populating the in cell 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.520 playlist online universe. I'm not suggesting music played a part 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.520 in Scott Barelli's motivation, nor am I blaming musicians for 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.000 inspiring in cells to murder, but it's only a matter 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.880 of time before someone does. The twenty eighteen Toronto van attack, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.320 where a self described inceell murdered eleven in an effort 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.920 to incite a so called in cell rebellion. The twenty 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.720 fourteen Isla Vista killings, when a twenty two year old 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.520 man murdered six and injured fourteen others in an attempt 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.279 to punish women who rejected him and the sexually active 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:59.160 men he believed humiliated him. These are just two of 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:04.360 what are numerous examples of in cell killings. Eventually, there 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.320 will be more murder committed by young men who are 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:14.280 chronically online, detached from reality, and obsessing over music. Algorithms 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:19.360 now feed grievance faster than ever. Music, like politics and religion, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.520 is just another on ramp for the aggrieved. For those 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.440 whom Paul Schrader and Thomas Wolfe once called God's Lonely Man, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.279 it turns out the modern version of God's Lonely Man 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.120 has a pretty good taste in music, just like Richard Ramirez, 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:39.200 who envisioned himself as the killer in ac DC's Night Prowler, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:43.320 and Robert John Bardow, who was obsessed with U two's exit. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.440 But music isn't the murder weapon. Music is the mirror. 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.599 Acdc's Night Prowler wasn't a command. When Bond Scott whispered 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.120 about slipping into someone's room after dark, he was setting 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:03.240 fictional pulp horror lyrics over a menacing beat. Richard Ramirez 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.200 didn't hear instructions on how to kill. He felt recognition 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.960 God's Lonely Man, felt seen U two's exit did the 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.440 same for Robert John Bardo. Bono wrote, the tune is 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.400 a character study of a man undone by violence and 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.960 faith the spiritual collapse. But to Bardo, a mentally ill 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.520 man obsessed with fame. All he heard was a soundtrack 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.640 to his own delusion. The same dynamics at play with 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:35.599 modern inceell music. These playlists don't inspire violence, they reflect it. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.880 They echo the delusions of the men obsessing over them. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:45.279 The music isn't radicalizing them, it's validating their despair. Again, 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.400 the music is the mirror, not the weapon. The problems 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.000 consuming the in cell community go much deeper than music. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.560 These are young men raised online, coddled and medicated as 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.200 children brought up in low to no state social environments, 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.480 and who are helplessly unequipped to function in the real world. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:09.720 Outcasts as alienated as the musicians whose songs fill their playlists. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.640 It's only a matter of time before they kill again. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.880 And when they do, people will eventually point to in 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:21.360 cell music as a scapegoat and smash the mirror instead 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.640 of looking into what it shows us, and that will 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.720 be a disgrace. I'll be back after this with your calls, texts, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:54.000 voicemails and more. All right, we are back, and speaking 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:59.200 of the question about music inspiring death and destruction, We're 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.040 going to set ourselves away from the dark corners of 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.120 the incell Internet and to the Philippines for a little 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.960 peeling back of the onion of the my Way killings. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.880 These are the murders inspired by Frank Sinatra's my Way tune. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.840 You know that makes sense. This might be the weirdest 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.920 social phenomenon that I've ever heard of. This is the 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.320 thing where numerous people in the Philippines were killed in 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.200 connection to their performance of this song in karaoke. Bars 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.720 Zeth and I knew very little about this until recently, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.000 and we're going to unpack this wild story in today's 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.880 exclusive portion of this here After party, which you can 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.600 hear by becoming an all access member of Disgraceland. For 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.040 just five bucks a month. You get additional exclusive content 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.600 like this ad, free listening, and more. Go to disgrace 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.080 slaandpod dot com to sign up before prices go up 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.400 at the end of this month. All right, So I 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.320 landed on this inceel playlist topic earlier because this week 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.800 in Disgraceland, we launched our ACDC par Our two episode 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.560 along with rewinding our part one story, and that story 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.200 deals with the band being blamed for inspiring Richard Ramirez 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.000 the serial killer, and our rewind episode this week is 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.040 on you two, and with that episode we have more 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.520 killer inspiration with Robert John Bardo and the Rebecca Schaefer Murder. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.400 That you two episode will be available in tomorrow's rewind 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.440 spot coming up right after this episode. Lots of music 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:30.280 this week, supposedly inspiring murder. But I'm done talking about that, okay. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.439 I want to talk about a theme that we hit 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.040 on in our new episode, our new ACDC episode this week, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.679 Great rock and roll records, the greatest rock and roll records. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.920 This question was prompted, of course, because acdc's album Back 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.000 in Black was, for a minute there the greatest selling 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.400 album of all time, not just the greatest selling rock 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.120 record of all time, the greatest selling album of all time. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.480 A couple of years later, Michael Jackson's Thriller came along 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.880 and topped it, but still Back in Black still sitting 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.480 there in the number two spot. So that prompted our question, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.160 what's the greatest rock and roll record of all time? 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:14.559 We're gonna hear your answers here, and I gotta gotta 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.920 gotta say, pretty surprised by by the consensus from you guys, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.160 semi consensus from you guys on this topic. I'm gonna 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.400 give you my answer after we hear from you, guys, 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.160 vastly different from where you're coming from. Well, let's without 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.040 further ado, let's check out Junior in the seven to 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:33.480 one to four. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.880 Hey, Jake, this is Junior from the seven to one 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:41.200 four And I believe, and this is just me the 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.920 greatest rock album of all time is David Bowie Ziggy, 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.480 Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. It's like a visual 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:55.760 for your brain, just perfectly constructed, in a perfect, perfect 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.160 story of the fallen Rocks has rock and roll, it 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.760 has your power ballads, it has your tragic end and 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:09.080 chift can be played over and over and I could 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.840 never get tired of it. Well, thank you for what 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:17.079 you're doing. You are freaking awesome, greatest storyteller ever. I 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.880 have a good one, Jake, talk to you later. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.160 Junior. Thanks for the call. I love the Ziggy Startist 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.800 album and I love this answer. I love it. I 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.760 get the visual component here, the little theater of the 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.800 mind that's going on, the theatrics, I should say, the narrative, 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:37.079 all of it. It's tremendous storytelling in this record. There's ballads, 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.679 it's a super dynamic sounding album. I love this choice. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.760 I wouldn't have thought of this on my own. It's 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.600 not my choice, but I fully understand Jr. Why you're 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.640 picking this, and you have some company. Let's hear what 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:51.920 the nine to one success to say. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.280 Hi, Jake, this is mister Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.520 calling to answer the question from last week great album 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.640 of all time? No skips? And this is a tough 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.880 one in its simplicity, as you said. You know, as 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.520 a kid grown up in the late eighties and nineties, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.160 born to boomer parents who loved music. But when I 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.240 came into this world, they gave me this sense that 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.960 all of it had been decided that the Beatles were 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.920 the greatest band of all time, and there was no 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.400 discussion about it, that all the greatest music had already 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.680 been made. So as a kid discovering music myself, I 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.680 kind of took offense to this idea and it took 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.360 me a long time to come around to it. You know, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.040 It's like kids these days being told that Michael Jordan 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.720 is the greatest basketball player of all time. I get 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.200 the pushback. I mean, obviously they're wrong, Mjay's the man. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.960 But when I was coming up as a kid, it 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.520 took me a long time to get to some of 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.800 these great albums. But when I got into my twenties, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.640 I went back with fresh eyes and ears, and I 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.080 listened to some of them, and I came to the 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:56.600 conclusion that David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust is probably, if not 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.360 the greatest start to finish album of all time. I mean, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.160 there are no skips. It is a concept album, but 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:09.000 every single song is an absolute banger. It's starting with 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.360 five years obviously, moon Age, day Dreams, Ziggy start Us, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.400 rock and roll Suicide. The album starts and finishes in 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:22.720 the same way with absolute searing rock. Nick Ronson's guitar 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.439 is undeniable. David Bowie is in his element, the greatest 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.040 album he's ever made, the greatest character he's ever pervaded, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.520 and it is, in my opinion, the greatest album from 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.160 start to finish, no skips, that has ever been recorded. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.160 That's my piece. Thanks a lot, Rocker Roller, All. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.920 Right, before I get into your answer nine one six, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.760 I totally relate to the offense you take at the Hey, 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.080 everything's been figured out for you, man, don't worry about it. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:51.560 We already decided what the greatest records are basically every 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:57.760 fucking music documentary pre nineteen ninety nine about the history 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.000 of music or you know, the history of social culture 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.280 in America. Anyhow, I love that we have another entry 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.079 here for Ziggy start Us coming from the nine to 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:10.160 one six. It's fantastic and this album strikes a chord. Clearly. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.320 You mentioned that it's a concept album. It transcends the 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.200 concept album. I think it's more it's just because the 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.760 song's on it. I don't think a Ziggy as a 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.160 concept album. I know that sounds crazy. It's it's clearly 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.760 defined as such, and but it just has such great 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.720 single song bangers on it that are that are undeniable, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.440 that can be heard anywhere. You mentioned a bunch of 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.440 Them'm not gonna belabor it, but just fantastic. And oh, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.280 by the way, yes, Michael Jordan is the greatest of 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.360 all time. They got that one right. All right, let's 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.880 check out the on this topic. More on this topic, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.520 let's go to the text machine, and I want to 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.040 read this text from the four to seven zero Dave 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.880 from Georgia. Dave. Dave wants to go ahead and just 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.320 let us know that he's he's nominating tools Eenema, and 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.080 I can't argue with you. I mean I could, but 0:14:59.160 --> 0:14:59.520 I won't. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:00.320 Uh. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.320 I get it, I get it. You're gonna listen to 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.720 this forever. That's what you're telling us, Dave, And you 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.360 have every right too. And it's an awesome record. I 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.840 don't quite think that it is, uh oh, what you know? 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.280 Who am I to say? A lot of people love Tool. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.200 I overlook the Tool fans. I shouldn't. You guys are legion. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.320 We talked about this before, particularly around the gender splits 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.960 in Tool fandom, and I heard loud and clear from 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.120 you guys, So Dave, I appreciate this. Four to seven Oh, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.520 Dave is nominating tools Enema as the greatest rock record. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.080 Let's check out for something different here the three to 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.720 one Oh, who writes in the one rock album. If 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.200 I could only ever listen to one album again, says 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.200 the three one oh, would be Rolling Stone Sticky Fingers, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.040 best album by one of the best bands, that defines 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.720 rock and is my go to when I can't select 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.360 through all the many records on the shelves, So in 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.520 some ways already is my one record to rule them all. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.080 That's from Joe and the three to one, Oh Joe, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.720 I hear you. It's a great one. It's my I 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.960 guess it's my second favorite Stones album, uh, Exile being 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.440 my first Exile being. You know, there's a handful of 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.360 double albums in the history of rock and roll that 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.760 are truly great, and Exile to me is one, if 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.160 not the greatest. I don't know. I think I like 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.560 it more than the White Album I do, I definitely do, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.200 but it's not my favorite rock record. We'll get to 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.760 that in a minute. Seven to two four Rights saying, Hey, Jake, 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.920 it's Anthony and as I listen at my job as 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.400 an insurance accountant to get through the day, you asked 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.720 for the best no skip album, and if I had 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.360 to say one for my generation, I'm thirty three, I'd 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.200 pick American Idiot, genuinely solid start to finish. That's the 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.680 green day album American Idiot from the seven two four 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.440 Anthony and the seven two four, who goes on to say, though, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.880 my personal favorite no skip that probably won't count as 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.080 Alison Chains Jar of Flies EP, You're right, doesn't count's 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.000 an EP. It's definitely no skip though, love it. It's 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.200 my favorite. Alison Chains too by the way, Uh, good 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.000 health to you in yours and later days from the 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.119 seven two four appreciate you seven to two four. Before 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.240 we move on from this topic, my favorite rock and 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.040 roll album is not acdc's Back in Black, but it 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.760 is an ACDC album, and I mention it in I 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:18.920 think both are ACDC episodes. It's Poweradge. It's just incredible 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.439 for an ACDC album. It's pretty dynamic for a rock 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.000 and roll record, not that dynamic. It kind of delivers 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.080 over and over again on the same vibe all throughout. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.520 And that is just a dirty ass rock and roll 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:34.600 band that I imagine would just just destroy your night 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.160 in the best possible way, where you to just stumble 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.640 upon them playing those tunes in a little bar back 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:44.000 in the nineteen seventies. I can't get enough of this album. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.720 I've never gotten sick of it. It defines the band 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.680 for me. It defines rock and roll for me. And 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.720 if you want to break down of exactly what I mean, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.960 you can listen to the go back and listen to 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.399 the first ACDC episode. I get into it pretty thickly, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.480 but yeah, that's my choice. It's it kind of defies 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.600 the criterion I set up earlier in the last episode 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.879 when I asked this question, I guess it's not that dynamic. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.280 Like I said, it's not that varied. It kind of 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.480 does one thing. But I don't know. Like I said, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.879 I just fucking love it. I love it and I 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.320 can listen to it forever. So there you go. Boring 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.760 answer from me, boring, I know, as not as thoughtful 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.600 as the Ziggy Stardust answer, but what can I say, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.680 You guys are more thoughtful for me. Speaking of which, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:35.960 let's check out this text from the two to eight, 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.080 who writes, Hey discos. This is Michelle with one L, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.800 and I'm reaching out to tell you what I'm watching 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.640 right now. I did watch Black Rabbit, which I thought 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.440 was really good, and I finished watching The Monster with 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.359 ed Geen, the ed Geen story. But the one that 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.960 I'm most excited to tell you about is called Ratchet. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.200 It's a really really great movie. And the Nurse, isn't 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.320 it based on the Nurse? And one flew over the 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:04.919 Cuckoo's nest. Dang, that's fantastic. As I read this, I'm 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.560 piecing together that this is actually a message for Zeth, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.680 but I don't care. Michelle with one L you get 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.960 a little love here in Disgraceland, as I'm sure you're 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.240 gonna get it in hollywood Land as well. Michelle includes 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.760 a picture of well part of herself in front of 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.280 the mirror, and she says, here, I've included a picture 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.000 of my mirror where I jot down things that y'all 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.359 tell me I need to watch or listen to or whatever. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:35.840 And there's some marker notes all over Michelle with one 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.959 l's mirror here and looks like I can see your 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.440 robe there as well. I'm gonna stop it there, Michelle, 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.760 thank you for the message. We appreciate it. Guys six 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.879 one seven nine O six six six three eight, And 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.680 you want to get in touch, want to talk about whatever, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.919 go for it. I'm here and I will continue to 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.959 be here next week when our long awaited new episode 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.919 on Matt give me a drum roll, drum roll please, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.880 as they say in the biz, that biz being show business, 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.640 give it to him, Att, stretch it out, man, make 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.280 it count, Come on, build up the anticipation. Our next 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:16.600 episode is on the Fish. Excuse me, I mean fish, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.879 not the fish. What am I saying fish? Anyway, when 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.600 listening to this new Fish episode, I would like you 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.439 guys to be thinking about what music y'all like to 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.560 listen to when you're you know, you know, stoned, hi, 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:36.000 gummat up, perhaps flying on a few cocktails, as they say, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.359 what are you kicking back to and putting on the 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:43.919 stereo when you're unwinding with perhaps I don't know some 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.800 of the stuff that Trey got into, some of the 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.680 not so adult stuff, some of the more recreational fun 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.359 stuff that doesn't kill you. What music do you like 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.320 to listen to? What records do you like to listen 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.240 to when you're you know, under the influence. That's the 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.840 question that's going to be our question of the week 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.840 next week in honor of the I mean fish. Excuse 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.159 me call me six one seven nine oh six six 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.560 sixty three eight, text me, leave me a voicemail, hit 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.760 me up on the socials at the Gray Lamb Pod 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.960 and let me know. You might hear your answer right 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:12.200 here in the after party. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:27.840 All right, I'll be back in a flash. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.560 All right, Mac, give me the drake may buzzer beater. Wait, 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:33.040 hold up, actually not yet, I'm always jumping the gun boating. 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.480 Hold it, hold it now, hold it now. This is 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.560 the sixty second Sports rant in under thirty seconds, and 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.760 it is once again sponsored by five Hour Energy's new 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.520 Pumpkin Spice flavor, your favorite fall drink in an energy shot. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.840 You can pick up a Pumpkin Spice five Hour Energy 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:53.080 Shot available online at five hour Energy dot Com or Amazon. 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.600 All Right, Maddie, hit me with the tiki talk. There 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.240 we go. I called this the Drake May buzzer beater 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:02.720 because I'm afraid. I'm fearful. It's no longer Halloween season, 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.920 but I'm freaked out. How long? How long before Drake 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.480 May takes off out of my new England Patriots backfield 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.840 and has walloped with a season ending injury. The dude 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.640 needs to learn how to slide in the Patriots. They've 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.560 got to take the pressure off this kid and play better. 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.400 It can't be the Drake May show every damn weekend. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.880 Okay one, He's gonna get killed trying to make plays 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.440 with his feet too. You cannot win a super Bowl 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.560 this way. I thought the Patriots are going to go 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.119 out of the trade deadline this week and pick up 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.320 an edge rusher, maybe some safety depth, perhaps a running 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.560 back that has hands that work and can hold onto 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.320 the damn football, anything to take the pressure off. But 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.280 no they didn't. They didn't do anything. They traded for 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.399 Dick bupkisses. What they did as in nothing, not a zilch. 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.840 Let's hope they know what they're doing and our quarterback 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:49.080 stays healthy. 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.680 Matt, how did I do fifty five seconds? Jake got 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:53.560 it under a minute? 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.920 Well, maybe I need some trade deadline out, Matt. Maybe 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:57.879 that's what it is, all right. That was the sports 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.960 ran sponsored by five Hour Energies New Pumpkins Spice flavor. 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.400 These new Pumpkin Spice five hour Energy shots are fall 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.719 in a bottle and bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.560 that we all know and love, our favorite fall drink 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.200 in an energy shot. You can pick up a Pumpkinspice 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.240 five hour Energy shot available online at five hour Energy 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:20.679 dot Com or Amazon. All Right, I have not seen 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.560 the Springsteen movie, and I don't believe Matt has either. 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.680 I'm not motivated to. I've seen some clips. We've talked 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.520 a little bit about this. I'm a yeah, man, I 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.880 don't know anyway. Zeth has seen it, okay, and he's 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:39.919 talking about it over in the Hollywood Land Rap Party, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.600 which you can hear today by following and subscribing to 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.080 the Hollywood Land Feed wherever you get your podcasts now. 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.400 I don't know if you guys heard, but we're rolling 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:56.159 out these new mini episodes to disgrace in All Access members. 0:23:56.200 --> 0:24:00.359